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UPLOADED! The complete piano works of J.S. Bach, played by Gunnar Johansen
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Frank Forman
2011-12-25 02:46:11 UTC
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I am pleased to announce the first installment of many out of (European)
copyright recordings, uploaded to a server in Austria.

I claim no copyright in my own conversions to mp3 files. So my efforts
here can be spread freely.

ENJOY!

These discs, drooled over by those who read Schwann Catalogs, but given
with scanty details, even as you plow through all the Bach pages, and on
an obscure label, includes ALL the Schmieder numbers. A good many, not
regarded as authentic today, are missing from all "complete" Bach Editions
on CD, depending on which set regards as complete. What is missing are
manuscript variants, but Johansen gives a few, most rewardingly of the
Well-Tempered Clavier.

He uses the harpsichord as well as his special double piano. Details on
what is being used when are given in the PDF. (On the site, I have added
three ASCII transforms of this file using three different programs, but
have not edited them.)

THE COMPLETE PIANO WORKS OF JOHANN SEBASTIAN BACH, played by GUNNAR
JOHANSEN.

Location of files: http://www.filefactory.com/f/fe95791dd3c68d24/

Artist Direct [Blue Mounds, Wisconsin].albums 1-20 [43 mono LPs]

ABOUT THE ARTIST

Gunnar Johansen, who was born into a musical family in Copenhagen, was
taught first by his father until he went to Victor Schioler, hence to
Berlin where his apprentice years were spent under the guidance of Egon
Petri.

After concertizing in Europe and America he settled in California giving
weekly recitals for N.B.C. in San Francisco. Along with composing, he
played extensive Chamber music series under the auspices of Elizabeth
Sprague Coolidge and began the unique series of twelve historical piano
recitals, traversing the literature from Frescobaldi to Stravinsky—which
via Chicago and Columbia Universities, led to the University of Wisconsin,
where, after presenting this series, he was offered a chair as Artist in
Residence—the first of its kind to be offered by any university to a
performing artist.

As Artist in Residence since 1939, Mr. Johansen has been able to freely
follow his musical ideals. His time has been divided between composing,
broadcasting, recording and lecturing. The chief fruits of these years,
namely, the complete works for piano by Johann Sebastian Bach, played on a
two keyboard piano, are now being issued on L.P. records. [end. from the
liner notes.]

ABOUT THE TWO KEYBOARD PIANO

The question of dynamics in Bach rests pre-eminently with contrasts
achieved by opposing "registration" alternating the doubled with the
single. On an ordinary modern piano this is not possible, but since the
ingenious Emanuel Moor invented a double keyboard with coupling pedal
which joins the upper 4' keyboard to the lower 8', it is now again
feasible to render 'unto Bach what is Bach's'--terrace dynamics not by
artificial touch control forcing a tutti by pounding the middle register,
but by gaining the contrast harpsichord-wise by doubling in the upper
octave part of, or the entire score. The practice of also doubling
downward to the 16' octave is frowned upon by some, on grounds that in
Bach's time the harpsichords with 16' stops were not frequently found,
overlooking the interest Bach himself had in the innovations and
construction of instruments. There is also the account of Bach's
full-blooded delight and gusto when trying out a new organ, how he would
pull up his sleeves, pull out all the stops saying, "and now let's see
what lung power the creature has got". Certainly Bach would use the 16
foot stop-32'-64' including the 128' if there could be such a thing--if
for no other reason than getting relief from the eternal grinding away in
the middle of the keyboard, where coveniently he notated! Have I myself
followed any special principle in regards to the dynamics, the single,
doubling and 16' in the rendering of the 24 New Preludes and Fugues? My
answer is, Bach prescribes not a single instance calling for doubling and
it is only by "internal evidence" these considerations can be
adjudicated--such as, is it a brilliant dramatic overt "affekt" or is it
lyrical gentle and intimate? In the Fugues I admit a certain agoraphilia
liberally exploiting the dynamic intensification by doubling and tripling
as the Fugue fugues, hoping I am more in line with intension than contrary
to....
GUNNAR JOHANSEN

I am grateful to the late Donald R. Hodgman for letting me borrow the
discs.
Peter T. Daniels
2011-12-25 04:31:17 UTC
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On Dec 24, 9:46 pm, Frank Forman <***@panix.com> wrote:

Bach wrote part of one work (the Musical Offering) for what might
loosely be called "the piano" (probably). Thus there is no "complete
piano works."
Post by Frank Forman
These discs, drooled over by those who read Schwann Catalogs, but given
with scanty details, even as you plow through all the Bach pages, and on
an obscure label, includes ALL the Schmieder numbers. A good many, not
Prof. Schmieder explicitly asked that his name _not_ be used like
Koechel's or Deutsch's when giving catalog numbers, but that they be
quoted as "BWV."
Post by Frank Forman
regarded as authentic today, are missing from all "complete" Bach Editions
on CD, depending on which set regards as complete. What is missing are
manuscript variants, but Johansen gives a few, most rewardingly of the
Well-Tempered Clavier.
I am grateful to the late Donald R. Hodgman for letting me borrow the
discs.
There was a complete set in the Cornell University Music Library, and
they were quite popular (I was the shelver there one academic year,
probably 1970-71).
td
2011-12-26 02:35:02 UTC
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Post by Peter T. Daniels
There was a complete set in the Cornell University Music Library, and
they were quite popular (I was the shelver there one academic year,
probably 1970-71).
There is also a complete set of the pianist's Liszt and Busoni
recordings as well as the Bach in my own library.

After the GJ's death someone - I forget the name - was clearing out
his studio and was selling the discs. I purchased the entire set of
LPs and cassettes for about $100. I seem to recall.

They are terribly dated, of course, and entirely homemade. An "alas"
is also required here, as the pianist was no sound engineer and the
pressings etc. that he was able to purchase were not of the first
order.

TD
operafan
2011-12-26 11:46:52 UTC
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Post by td
Post by Peter T. Daniels
There was a complete set in the Cornell University Music Library, and
they were quite popular (I was the shelver there one academic year,
probably 1970-71).
There is also a complete set of the pianist's Liszt and Busoni
recordings as well as the Bach in my own library.
After the GJ's death someone - I forget the name - was clearing out
his studio and was selling the discs. I purchased the entire set of
LPs and cassettes for about $100. I seem to recall.
They are terribly dated, of course, and entirely homemade. An "alas"
is also required here, as the pianist was no sound engineer and the
pressings etc. that he was able to purchase were not of the first
order.
TD
It was Gordon Rumson who sold the remaining discs and cassettes on
behalf of the pianist's estate. I bought some of the Liszt recordings,
which I think are often really good despite the home-brewed sound
quality. I also bought the Goldbergs--hated them, and the Bach-Busoni
transcriptions, which are pretty good performances.
R. Edwards
2011-12-26 15:49:16 UTC
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Post by operafan
Post by td
Post by Peter T. Daniels
There was a complete set in the Cornell University Music Library, and
they were quite popular (I was the shelver there one academic year,
probably 1970-71).
There is also a complete set of the pianist's Liszt and Busoni
recordings as well as the Bach in my own library.
After the GJ's death someone - I forget the name - was clearing out
his studio and was selling the discs. I purchased the entire set of
LPs and cassettes for about $100. I seem to recall.
They are terribly dated, of course, and entirely homemade. An "alas"
is also required here, as the pianist was no sound engineer and the
pressings etc. that he was able to purchase were not of the first
order.
TD
It was Gordon Rumson who sold the remaining discs and cassettes on
behalf of the pianist's estate. I bought some of the Liszt recordings,
which I think are often really good despite the home-brewed sound
quality. I also bought the Goldbergs--hated them, and the Bach-Busoni
transcriptions, which are pretty good performances.
According to www.gunnarjohansen.org his recordings (still on LPs and
cassettes) are still available from Artists Direct, Blue
Mounds ,Wisconsin 53517, including the complete piano music of Ignaz
Friedman, which I don't recall being available previously.

Ray
Peter T. Daniels
2011-12-25 04:34:08 UTC
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Post by Frank Forman
THE COMPLETE PIANO WORKS OF JOHANN SEBASTIAN BACH, played by GUNNAR
JOHANSEN.
Location of files:http://www.filefactory.com/f/fe95791dd3c68d24/
That's 54 separate files. Can they be combined into one?
Curlytop
2011-12-25 11:00:27 UTC
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Frank Forman set the following eddies spiralling through the space-time
Post by Frank Forman
Location of files: http://www.filefactory.com/f/fe95791dd3c68d24/
How do I get to the actual files? All that seems to be downloadable is some
kind of download manager (!) which has the file extension .exe so
presumably it's for a different operating system.
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Peter T. Daniels
2011-12-25 12:43:14 UTC
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Post by Curlytop
Frank Forman set the following eddies spiralling through the space-time
[followups restored]
Post by Curlytop
Post by Frank Forman
Location of files:http://www.filefactory.com/f/fe95791dd3c68d24/
How do I get to the actual files? All that seems to be downloadable is some
kind of download manager (!) which has the file extension .exe so
presumably it's for a different operating system.
It's only "different" if you don't use Windows.

It's not a "download manager," it's a file compression tool, and it
probably gives you a 14-day free trial and then wants payment, so that
you revert to your usual un-zipping tool.

It looks like the site requires you to "join" and "sign in" before you
can download anything -- I tried to download the pdf describing the
contents, in order to get some idea of which of the 50-odd files to be
interested in, but I had to fill in one of those spam-fighting
passwords, but when I clicked on what looked like it might be the
"Enter" button, it turned out to be some sort of audio password
instead, which sent a garbled sound file to my computer and then
crashed it.

Maybe if you "join" and "sign in," you trade the ability to download a
file for permission to be sent piles of spam every day.

However, since Frank Checker never looks back at the threads he starts
-- i.e., he's a troll -- don't hold your breath waiting for access to
the complete "piano works" of JSB.
Kip Williams
2011-12-25 14:42:35 UTC
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Well, if anybody here goes so far as to download the text file telling
what's where in this, perhaps they'd be so kind as to post it. I'm
reluctant to sign up to join their file club just to find out what they
have.


Kip W
Peter T. Daniels
2011-12-25 17:30:18 UTC
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Post by Kip Williams
Well, if anybody here goes so far as to download the text file telling
what's where in this, perhaps they'd be so kind as to post it. I'm
reluctant to sign up to join their file club just to find out what they
have.
One sees exactly this caution so often, you'd think people who want to
share things would realize that people are reluctant to sign up to
sites in order to download them -- even if they're exactly what they
want.
David O.
2011-12-25 17:49:09 UTC
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On Sun, 25 Dec 2011 09:30:18 -0800 (PST), "Peter T. Daniels"
Post by Peter T. Daniels
Post by Kip Williams
Well, if anybody here goes so far as to download the text file telling
what's where in this, perhaps they'd be so kind as to post it. I'm
reluctant to sign up to join their file club just to find out what they
have.
One sees exactly this caution so often, you'd think people who want to
share things would realize that people are reluctant to sign up to
sites in order to download them -- even if they're exactly what they
want.
Why don't we just start a storage area on Amazon Cloud & then pass
around the password? The first 5 gigabytes are free: storage, upload,
& download.
wagnerfan
2011-12-25 18:00:13 UTC
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Post by David O.
On Sun, 25 Dec 2011 09:30:18 -0800 (PST), "Peter T. Daniels"
Post by Peter T. Daniels
Post by Kip Williams
Well, if anybody here goes so far as to download the text file telling
what's where in this, perhaps they'd be so kind as to post it. I'm
reluctant to sign up to join their file club just to find out what they
have.
One sees exactly this caution so often, you'd think people who want to
share things would realize that people are reluctant to sign up to
sites in order to download them -- even if they're exactly what they
want.
Why don't we just start a storage area on Amazon Cloud & then pass
around the password? The first 5 gigabytes are free: storage, upload,
& download.
Funny that James Kibbee was able to upload his very good complete
Bach Organ Works to the net without going through all this nonsense.
Wagner fan
Curlytop
2011-12-25 20:32:52 UTC
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wagnerfan set the following eddies spiralling through the space-time
Post by wagnerfan
Funny that James Kibbee was able to upload his very good complete
Bach Organ Works to the net without going through all this nonsense.
Wagner fan
Successfully downloaded and enjoyed here. In fact I thought this was the
next helping of what would eventually build up into a Complete Works of
Bach, with perhaps the solo violin sonatas and 'cello suites to come next.
--
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Curlytop
2011-12-25 21:00:35 UTC
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Peter T. Daniels set the following eddies spiralling through the space-time
Post by Peter T. Daniels
Post by Curlytop
Frank Forman set the following eddies spiralling through the space-time
[followups restored]
Post by Curlytop
Post by Frank Forman
Location of files:http://www.filefactory.com/f/fe95791dd3c68d24/
How do I get to the actual files? All that seems to be downloadable is
some kind of download manager (!) which has the file extension .exe so
presumably it's for a different operating system.
It's only "different" if you don't use Windows.
Shouldn't that have been allowed for?
--
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William Sommerwerck
2011-12-25 13:57:20 UTC
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That must be an awfully small file, as JSB didn't write any piano music.
Peter T. Daniels
2011-12-25 17:32:35 UTC
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Post by William Sommerwerck
That must be an awfully small file, as JSB didn't write any piano music.
What about the sonata from the Musical Offering (and maybe the 6-voice
ricercar, which he had to go home and work out, rather than improvise
on the spot)? Doesn't the Metropolitan Museum still label the 1727
instrument the "first piano"?
hiker_rs
2011-12-25 14:53:47 UTC
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Post by Frank Forman
I am pleased to announce the first installment of many out of (European)
copyright recordings, uploaded to a server in Austria.
I claim no copyright in my own conversions to mp3 files. So my efforts
here can be spread freely.
ENJOY!
These discs, drooled over by those who read Schwann Catalogs, but given
with scanty details, even as you plow through all the Bach pages, and on
an obscure label, includes ALL the Schmieder numbers. A good many, not
regarded as authentic today, are missing from all "complete" Bach Editions
on CD, depending on which set regards as complete. What is missing are
manuscript variants, but Johansen gives a few, most rewardingly of the
Well-Tempered Clavier.
He uses the harpsichord as well as his special double piano. Details on
what is being used when are given in the PDF. (On the site, I have added
three ASCII transforms of this file using three different programs, but
have not edited them.)
THE COMPLETE PIANO WORKS OF JOHANN SEBASTIAN BACH, played by GUNNAR
JOHANSEN.
Location of files:http://www.filefactory.com/f/fe95791dd3c68d24/
Artist Direct [Blue Mounds, Wisconsin].albums 1-20 [43 mono LPs]
ABOUT THE ARTIST
Gunnar Johansen, who was born into a musical family in Copenhagen, was
taught first by his father until he went to Victor Schioler, hence to
Berlin where his apprentice years were spent under the guidance of Egon
Petri.
After concertizing in Europe and America he settled in California giving
weekly recitals for N.B.C. in San Francisco. Along with composing, he
played extensive Chamber music series under the auspices of Elizabeth
Sprague Coolidge and began the unique series of twelve historical piano
recitals, traversing the literature from Frescobaldi to Stravinsky—which
via Chicago and Columbia Universities, led to the University of Wisconsin,
where, after presenting this series, he was offered a chair as Artist in
Residence—the first of its kind to be offered by any university to a
performing artist.
As Artist in Residence since 1939, Mr. Johansen has been able to freely
follow his musical ideals. His time has been divided between composing,
broadcasting, recording and lecturing. The chief fruits of these years,
namely, the complete works for piano by Johann Sebastian Bach, played on a
two keyboard piano, are now being issued on L.P. records. [end. from the
liner notes.]
ABOUT THE TWO KEYBOARD PIANO
The question of dynamics in Bach rests pre-eminently with contrasts
achieved by opposing "registration" alternating the doubled with the
single. On an ordinary modern piano this is not possible, but since the
ingenious Emanuel Moor invented a double keyboard with coupling pedal
which joins the upper 4' keyboard to the lower 8', it is now again
feasible to render 'unto Bach what is Bach's'--terrace dynamics not by
artificial touch control forcing a tutti by pounding the middle register,
but by gaining the contrast harpsichord-wise by doubling in the upper
octave part of, or the entire score. The practice of also doubling
downward to the 16' octave is frowned upon by some, on grounds that in
Bach's time the harpsichords with 16' stops were not frequently found,
overlooking the interest Bach himself had in the innovations and
construction of instruments. There is also the account of Bach's
full-blooded delight and gusto when trying out a new organ, how he would
pull up his sleeves, pull out all the stops saying, "and now let's see
what lung power the creature has got". Certainly Bach would use the 16
foot stop-32'-64' including the 128' if there could be such a thing--if
for no other reason than getting relief from the eternal grinding away in
the middle of the keyboard, where coveniently he notated! Have I myself
followed any special principle in regards to the dynamics, the single,
doubling and 16' in the rendering of the 24 New Preludes and Fugues? My
answer is, Bach prescribes not a single instance calling for doubling and
it is only by "internal evidence" these considerations can be
adjudicated--such as, is it a brilliant dramatic overt "affekt" or is it
lyrical gentle and intimate? In the Fugues I admit a certain agoraphilia
liberally exploiting the dynamic intensification by doubling and tripling
as the Fugue fugues, hoping I am more in line with intension than contrary
to....
GUNNAR JOHANSEN
I am grateful to the late Donald R. Hodgman for letting me borrow the
discs.
There's really not much mysterious about downloading these files if
you follow instructions.

The main annoyance to downloading these w/o buying a Filefactory
membership is that there are 54 files, you may only download one at a
time, and each requires entering a "captcha" code before the download
may proceed. Since Filefactory wants you to buy their services it
inserts a healthy wait time between subsequent downloads, yet a narrow
time window for entering the code. Since some of these files are quite
small it would have been nice if the original poster put several of
these files into one zip file, but I suppose that beggars can't be
choosers. And after all for only $12 you can buy Filefactory's
cheapest membership and get the whole lot simply.

But a bigger drawback (at least for me) is that the individual mp3
files contain several works, so that listening to a single composition
can be challenging.

Below is the breakdown, obtained from johansen (contents).txt.

Important: Each F20xx section is a single mp3. So for example F2001a
is a single mp3, F2001a.mp3, containing 10 works.

-Rich


CONTENTS

F2001a Album 16
897 Prelude and Fugue in a
833 Prelude and Paritia del Tuono in F
949 Fugue in A
898 P&F (B-A-C-H) in Bb
962 Fugato in e
960 Fugue in e
835 Allemande in a
845 Jig in f
838 Allemande & Courante in A
956 Fugue in e

F2011B
834 Allemande in c minor
958 Fugue in a
990 Sarabande con Partite in C
563 Fantasia con Imitazione in b
895 Prelude and Fugue in a
954 Fugue in Bb

F2002a
905 Fantasia and Fugue in d
957 Fugue in G
947 Fugue in a
950 Fugue in A

Album 17
997 Partita in c minor
A. 178 Toccata quasi Fantasia con Fuga in A by Purcell
959 Fugue in a

F2002B
918 Fantasy on a Rondo in c
943 Prelude in C
921 Prelude (or Fantasia) in c
946 Fugue in C
813a Menuett-Trio in c minor
872a Fughetta in C
832 Partie in A
992 Capriccio (Departing Brother) in Bb
945 Fugue in e
896 Prelude and Fugue in A

F2003a
A. 182 Passacaglia in d by Christian Friedrich Witt
822 Suite in g
821 Suite in Bb
963 Sonata in D
967 Sonata in a

F2003B
955 Fugue in Bb
A. 86 Fantasy in c minor
920 Fantasia in g
993 Capriccio in E
909 Concerto and Fuga in c minor

Album 13
A. 180 Fughetta in d
969 Andante in g
948 Fugue with Cadenza in d

F2004a
989 Aria Variata all Maniera Italiano
965 Sonata in a after Reinken
966.1 ?first version

F2004B
966 Sonata in C after Reinken (played in order 1,4,3,2)
820 Overture in F
907 Fantasy and Fughetta in Bb
908 Fantasy and Fughetta in D
917 Fantasy in g
A. 180 Fughetta in d
923a Prelude in a
844 Scherzo in d
969 Andante in g

F005a
970 Presto in d

Album 10
Clavier-Büchlein für Wilhelm Friedemann Bach
1. 994 Applicatio in C
2. 924 1st of 9 Little Preludes
3. 691a Chorale Prelude, "Wer nur den Lieben Gott"
4. 925 2nd of 9 Little Preludes
5. 753 Chorale Prelude, "Jesu, Meine Freude"
6. 836 Allemande in g
7. 837 Allemande in g
8-10. 926/8 3rd, 4th, and 5th of Nine Little Preludes
11-3. 841-3 Minuets in G, g, and G
Urform of WTC:
14. 846 Prelude 1 in C
15. 847 Prelude 2 in c minor
16. 851 Prelude 6 in d
17. 850 Prelude 5 in D
18. 855 Prelude 10 in e
19. 854 Prelude 9 in E
20. 856 Prelude 11 in F
21. 848 Prelude 3 in C#
22. 849 Prelude 4 in c# minor
23. 852 Prelude 7 in Eb
24. 857 Prelude 12 in f

25. 838 Allemande and Courante in A

F2005B
26-29. 929-32 6th, 7th, 8th, and 9th of Nine Little Preludes (C,D,e,a)
30. No BWV Bass-Passus
31. 953 Fugue à 3 in C
32. 824 Suite in A (Telemann)

Partita di Signore Steltzeln (not in BWV)
End of the Little Book for WFB

939,999,940-2 Five Small Preludes
933-8 Six Small Preludes

F2006a
831 French Overture in b

Album 9
903 Chromatic Fantasy and Fugue in d (double keyboard)

F2006B 903 (harpsichord)
1006a Suite in E, after Partita 3 in E, S. 1006
819 and 819a commingled Suite in Eb

F2007a
818 and 818a commingled Suite in a
964 Sonata in d, after Sonata 2 in a, S. 1003
968 Adagio in G, after Sonata 3 in C, S. 1005: 1, Adagio

Album 18
Anna Magdalena Bach Büchlein of 1725
1. 827 Partita 3 in a

F2007B :5-7
[From 1st A.M. Büchlein of 1722] 728 "Jesu meine Zuversicht"
[From 1st A.M. Büchlein of 1722] 991 Air and two Doubles in c minor
26. 988.1. Aria in G (Sarabande) (Goldberg Variation Aria)
25. 508 "Bist du bei mir"
2. 830 Partita 6 in e

F2008A
6. A183 Rondeau in Ab by Couperin
3. A113 Menuet in F
4. A114 Menuet in G
5. A115 Menuet in g
7. A116 Menuet in G
8. A117a or b Polonaise in F
9. A118 Menuet in Bb
10. A119 Polonaise in g
11. 691 "Wer nur den Lieben Gott"
12. 510 "Gib dich zufrieden"
13. 511 or 512 "Gib dich zufrieden"
14. A120 Menuet in a
15. A121 Menuet in c minor
16. A122 Marche in D
17. A123 Polonaise in g
18. A124 Marche in G
19. A125 Polonaise in g

839/40 Sarabande and Courante from the Note Book for C.F. Zeumerin

20. 515a or 515b. Edifying Thoughts of a Tobacco Smoker, "So oft ich
meine Tabakspfeife"
21. No BWV Menuet by Georg Bohm
22. A126 Musette in D
23. A127 Marche in Eb
24. A128 Polonaise in d
27. A129 Solo per il Cembalo by CPE Bach

F2008B
28. A130 Polonaise in G
29. 846.1 Prelude (Clavichord) in C (old ver. of WTC)
32. A 131 Dance
33. 516 "Warum betrübst du dich"
35. 514 "Schaffs mit mir"
36. A132 Menuet in d
40. 517 "Wie wohl ist mir"
41. 509 "Gedenke doch"
42. 513 "O Ewigkeit, du Donnerwort!"

Album 11
944 Prelude and Fugue in a
899 Prelude and Fughetta in d
900 Prelude and Fughetta in e
919 Fantasia in c minor
901 Prelude and Fugue in F
961 Fughetta in c minor
952 Fugue in C

F2009A
894 Prelude and Fugue in a
Some Protean Preludes
870a WTC II: 1 in C
872a WTC II: 3 in C#
875a WTC II: 6 in d
902.1 Prelude in G
902a Prelude in G
902.2 Fughetta in G

996 Suite in e
996.7 of 7 Suite in e: Jig. Approximate timing is 2'27" as opposed to
2'25" for the last mov. of the whole suite. "Gigue in e" is banded
after 951a on the disc, but is listed neither in the notes nor in the
flyer for the whole set. Very confusing!

F2009B
923 Prelude in b
951 Fugue in b on a theme of Tomaso Albinoni
951a earlier version of same
823 Suite in f

Album 3
971 Concerto in F (Italian)

F2010A
904 Fantasy and Double Fugue in a
831 French Overture in b
802-5 Four Duets

F2010B :4
906 Fantasy and Fugue in c. Fugue first left unfinished and then
performed in Ferucio Busoni's completion
998 Prelude, Fugue, and Allegro in Eb
1079.1 and 5 Musical Offering: Ricarcare à 3 and à 6

16 Concerti arrangements of works of other composers
Album 14
972 No. 1 in D, from Vivaldi Op. 3.9, RV 230

F2011A
973 No. 2 in G, from Vivaldi Op. 7/ii.2, RV 299
974 No. 3 in d, from oboe concerto by A. Marcello
975 No. 4 in g, from Vivaldi Op. 4.6, RV 316
976 No. 5 in C, from Vivaldi Op. 3.12, RV 265
977 No. 6 in C, from an unknown source. Johansen suspects Marcello
978 No. 7 in F , from Vivaldi Op. 3.3, RV 310

F2011B :2-3
979 No. 8 in b, from an unknown source. Johansen suspects Marcello or
Albinoni
980 No. 9 in G, from Vivaldi Op. 4.1, RV 381
981 No. 10 in c, from B. Marcello, Op. 1.2

Album 15
982 No. 11 in Bb, from a concerto by Duke Johann Ernst of Saxe-Weimar

F2012A : 3-4
983 No. 12 in g. Johansen suspects Telemann
984 No. 13 in C, Ernst
985 No. 14 in g, from a violin concerto by Telemann
986 No. 15 in G. Johansen suspects Telemann
987 No. 16 in d, from Ernst

F2012B
Album 20
Complete Busoni Transcriptions
637 Durch Adams Fall
533 Prelude and Fugue in e ("Cathedral")
639 Ich ruf' zu dir, Herr JC
564 Toccata, Adagio, and Fugue in C
565 Toccata and Fugue in d
582 Prelude and Fugue in D (First Busoni transcription, dedicated to
Kathe Petri, Egon's mother)

F2013A
659 Nun komm, der Heiden Heiland
1000.4 Chaconne
552 Prelude and Fugue in Eb ("St. Anne")
631 Komm Gott, Schöpfer, heiliger Geist
705 Durch Adams Fall is ganz verderbt
645 Wachet auf, ruft uns die Stimme
734 Nun freut euch, lieben Christen gemein

F2013B
615 In dir ist Freude
617 Herr Gott, nun schleuß den Himmel auf
668 Vor den Thron tret' ich

Album 19
FERRUCIO BUSONI: Fantasia Contrapuntistica

F2014A
1080 Art of the Fugue, in BWV order 1-7, 9-10, 8, 11, 19,

F2014B 13, 17 16, 14-5, 18

Album 1
582 Passacaglia and Fugue in c

The first three sides of this album contains the Goldberg Variations,
S. 988, which is on C2104 below. The third side, Var. 20-30, is placed
at the end of the Gianoli/Schumann tapes, C2032B below. Sides 1-2 were
missing from Don Hodgman's set, but he found another copy later this
year.

Album 12
922 Fantasy in a

F2015A
910-7 Toccatas

F2015B 4 end, 5-7

Album 6
812-7 French Suites

F2016A
No. 2- 5 beg

F2016B 5 end; 6

Album 8
772-801 Inventions and Sinfonias
772 Invention 1 in C. Clavichord and Harpsichord
779 Invention 8 in F. Spinet and Harpsichord
785 14 in Bb and 6 in 777 in E. Silbermann Harpsichord
All Harpsichord: Inventions 13 in a, 4 in d, 2 in c, 15 in b, 6 in E;
Sinfonias 10 in G, 13 in a

F2017A
All 30. Double Keyboard

F2017B : Sinfonias 11-5

Album 7
806-11 English Suites

F2018A
No. 2:7 through 5:3

F2018B rest

Album 2
825-30 Partitas

F2019A
2:1 through 4:5

F2019B 4: 6-7; 5; 6

F2020A
Album 5
846-69 Well-Tempered Clavier, Book I

F2020B : 9.2

F2021A: 20-24

Album 4
870-93 Well-Tempered Clavier, Book II

F2021B :4

F2022A : 11.2

F2022B : 18.2

+++

F2032B
[Irrelevant]

Johansen. Goldberg Variations, S. 988: 20-30. This is the third and
last side. See C2014 above and C2104 below.

+++

F2104A
[Irrelevant]

Bach: Goldberg Variations. Album 1, sides 1-3 of his Artist Direct
set. See C2001-22 and 2032 above.

F2014B
completion of the Goldbergs. My recollection is that these records
were not as in good condition as the one side that Don had at the
time, which is on F2032B. So take your pick
hiker_rs
2011-12-25 15:21:34 UTC
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Post by Frank Forman
I am pleased to announce the first installment of many out of (European)
copyright recordings, uploaded to a server in Austria.
I claim no copyright in my own conversions to mp3 files. So my efforts
here can be spread freely.
ENJOY!
These discs, drooled over by those who read Schwann Catalogs, but given
with scanty details, even as you plow through all the Bach pages, and on
an obscure label, includes ALL the Schmieder numbers. A good many, not
regarded as authentic today, are missing from all "complete" Bach Editions
on CD, depending on which set regards as complete. What is missing are
manuscript variants, but Johansen gives a few, most rewardingly of the
Well-Tempered Clavier.
He uses the harpsichord as well as his special double piano. Details on
what is being used when are given in the PDF. (On the site, I have added
three ASCII transforms of this file using three different programs, but
have not edited them.)
THE COMPLETE PIANO WORKS OF JOHANN SEBASTIAN BACH, played by GUNNAR
JOHANSEN.
Location of files:http://www.filefactory.com/f/fe95791dd3c68d24/
Artist Direct [Blue Mounds, Wisconsin].albums 1-20 [43 mono LPs]
ABOUT THE ARTIST
Gunnar Johansen, who was born into a musical family in Copenhagen, was
taught first by his father until he went to Victor Schioler, hence to
Berlin where his apprentice years were spent under the guidance of Egon
Petri.
After concertizing in Europe and America he settled in California giving
weekly recitals for N.B.C. in San Francisco. Along with composing, he
played extensive Chamber music series under the auspices of Elizabeth
Sprague Coolidge and began the unique series of twelve historical piano
recitals, traversing the literature from Frescobaldi to Stravinsky—which
via Chicago and Columbia Universities, led to the University of Wisconsin,
where, after presenting this series, he was offered a chair as Artist in
Residence—the first of its kind to be offered by any university to a
performing artist.
As Artist in Residence since 1939, Mr. Johansen has been able to freely
follow his musical ideals. His time has been divided between composing,
broadcasting, recording and lecturing. The chief fruits of these years,
namely, the complete works for piano by Johann Sebastian Bach, played on a
two keyboard piano, are now being issued on L.P. records. [end. from the
liner notes.]
ABOUT THE TWO KEYBOARD PIANO
The question of dynamics in Bach rests pre-eminently with contrasts
achieved by opposing "registration" alternating the doubled with the
single. On an ordinary modern piano this is not possible, but since the
ingenious Emanuel Moor invented a double keyboard with coupling pedal
which joins the upper 4' keyboard to the lower 8', it is now again
feasible to render 'unto Bach what is Bach's'--terrace dynamics not by
artificial touch control forcing a tutti by pounding the middle register,
but by gaining the contrast harpsichord-wise by doubling in the upper
octave part of, or the entire score. The practice of also doubling
downward to the 16' octave is frowned upon by some, on grounds that in
Bach's time the harpsichords with 16' stops were not frequently found,
overlooking the interest Bach himself had in the innovations and
construction of instruments. There is also the account of Bach's
full-blooded delight and gusto when trying out a new organ, how he would
pull up his sleeves, pull out all the stops saying, "and now let's see
what lung power the creature has got". Certainly Bach would use the 16
foot stop-32'-64' including the 128' if there could be such a thing--if
for no other reason than getting relief from the eternal grinding away in
the middle of the keyboard, where coveniently he notated! Have I myself
followed any special principle in regards to the dynamics, the single,
doubling and 16' in the rendering of the 24 New Preludes and Fugues? My
answer is, Bach prescribes not a single instance calling for doubling and
it is only by "internal evidence" these considerations can be
adjudicated--such as, is it a brilliant dramatic overt "affekt" or is it
lyrical gentle and intimate? In the Fugues I admit a certain agoraphilia
liberally exploiting the dynamic intensification by doubling and tripling
as the Fugue fugues, hoping I am more in line with intension than contrary
to....
GUNNAR JOHANSEN
I am grateful to the late Donald R. Hodgman for letting me borrow the
discs.
There's really not much mysterious about downloading these files if
you follow instructions.
The main annoyance to downloading these w/o buying a Filefactory
membership is that there are 54 files, you may only download one at a
time, and each requires entering a "captcha" code before the download
may proceed. Since Filefactory wants you to buy their services it
inserts a healthy wait time between subsequent downloads, yet a narrow
time window for entering the code. Since some of these files are quite
small it would have been nice if the original poster put several of
these files into one zip file, but I suppose that beggars can't be
choosers. And after all for only $12 you can buy Filefactory's
cheapest membership and get the whole lot simply.
But a bigger drawback (at least for me) is that the individual mp3
files contain several works, so that listening to a single composition
can be challenging.
Below is the breakdown, obtained from  johansen (contents).txt.
Important: Each F20xx section is a single mp3. So for example F2001a
is a single mp3, F2001a.mp3, containing 10 works.
-Rich
CONTENTS
F2001a  Album 16
897 Prelude and Fugue in a
833 Prelude and Paritia del Tuono in F
949 Fugue in A
898 P&F (B-A-C-H) in Bb
962 Fugato in e
960 Fugue in e
835 Allemande in a
845 Jig in f
838 Allemande & Courante in A
956 Fugue in e
F2011B
834 Allemande in c minor
958 Fugue in a
990 Sarabande con Partite in C
563 Fantasia con Imitazione in b
895 Prelude and Fugue in a
954 Fugue in Bb
F2002a
905 Fantasia and Fugue in d
957 Fugue in G
947 Fugue in a
950 Fugue in A
Album 17
997 Partita in c minor
A. 178 Toccata quasi Fantasia con Fuga in A by Purcell
959 Fugue in a
F2002B
918 Fantasy on a Rondo in c
943 Prelude in C
921 Prelude (or Fantasia) in c
946 Fugue in C
813a Menuett-Trio in c minor
872a Fughetta in C
832 Partie in A
992 Capriccio (Departing Brother) in Bb
945 Fugue in e
896 Prelude and Fugue in A
F2003a
A. 182 Passacaglia in d by Christian Friedrich Witt
822 Suite in g
821 Suite in Bb
963 Sonata in D
967 Sonata in a
F2003B
955 Fugue in Bb
A. 86 Fantasy in c minor
920 Fantasia in g
993 Capriccio in E
909 Concerto and Fuga in c minor
Album 13
A. 180 Fughetta in d
969 Andante in g
948 Fugue with Cadenza in d
F2004a
989 Aria Variata all Maniera Italiano
965 Sonata in a after Reinken
966.1 ?first version
F2004B
966 Sonata in C after Reinken (played in order 1,4,3,2)
820 Overture in F
907 Fantasy and Fughetta in Bb
908 Fantasy and Fughetta in D
917 Fantasy in g
A. 180 Fughetta in d
923a Prelude in a
844 Scherzo in d
969 Andante in g
F005a
970 Presto in d
Album 10
Clavier-Büchlein für Wilhelm Friedemann Bach
1. 994 Applicatio in C
2. 924 1st of 9 Little Preludes
3. 691a Chorale Prelude, "Wer nur den Lieben Gott"
4. 925 2nd of 9 Little Preludes
5. 753 Chorale Prelude, "Jesu, Meine Freude"
6. 836 Allemande in g
7. 837 Allemande in g
8-10. 926/8 3rd, 4th, and 5th of Nine Little Preludes
11-3. 841-3 Minuets in G, g, and G
14. 846 Prelude 1 in C
15. 847 Prelude 2 in c minor
16. 851 Prelude 6 in d
17. 850 Prelude 5 in D
18. 855 Prelude 10 in e
19. 854 Prelude 9 in E
20. 856 Prelude 11 in F
21. 848 Prelude 3 in C#
22. 849 Prelude 4 in c# minor
23. 852 Prelude 7 in Eb
24. 857 Prelude 12 in f
25. 838 Allemande and Courante in A
F2005B
26-29. 929-32 6th, 7th, 8th, and 9th of Nine Little Preludes (C,D,e,a)
30. No BWV Bass-Passus
31. 953 Fugue à 3 in C
32. 824 Suite in A (Telemann)
Partita di Signore Steltzeln (not in BWV)
End of the Little Book for WFB
939,999,940-2 Five Small Preludes
933-8 Six Small Preludes
F2006a
831 French Overture in b
Album 9
903 Chromatic Fantasy and Fugue in d (double keyboard)
F2006B 903 (harpsichord)
1006a Suite in E, after Partita 3 in E, S. 1006
819 and 819a commingled Suite in Eb
F2007a
818 and 818a commingled Suite in a
964 Sonata in d, after Sonata 2 in a, S. 1003
968 Adagio in G, after Sonata 3 in C, S. 1005: 1, Adagio
Album 18
Anna Magdalena Bach Büchlein of 1725
1. 827 Partita 3 in a
F2007B :5-7
[From 1st A.M. Büchlein of 1722] 728 "Jesu meine Zuversicht"
[From 1st A.M. Büchlein of 1722] 991 Air and two Doubles in c minor
26. 988.1. Aria in G (Sarabande) (Goldberg Variation Aria)
25. 508 "Bist du bei mir"
2. 830 Partita 6 in e
F2008A
6. A183 Rondeau in Ab by Couperin
3. A113 Menuet in F
4. A114 Menuet in G
5. A115 Menuet in g
7. A116 Menuet in G
8. A117a or b Polonaise in F
9. A118 Menuet in Bb
10. A119 Polonaise in g
11. 691 "Wer nur den Lieben Gott"
12. 510 "Gib dich zufrieden"
13. 511 or 512 "Gib dich zufrieden"
14. A120 Menuet in a
15. A121 Menuet in c minor
16. A122 Marche in D
17. A123 Polonaise in g
18. A124 Marche in G
19. A125 Polonaise in g
839/40 Sarabande and Courante from the Note Book for C.F. Zeumerin
20. 515a or 515b. Edifying Thoughts of a Tobacco Smoker, "So oft ich
meine Tabakspfeife"
21. No BWV Menuet by Georg Bohm
22. A126 Musette in D
23. A127 Marche in Eb
24. A128 Polonaise in d
27. A129 Solo per il Cembalo by CPE Bach
F2008B
28. A130 Polonaise in G
29. 846.1 Prelude (Clavichord) in C (old ver. of WTC)
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To add to the above:

I downloaded F2001A.mp3. This mp3 not only contains 10 separate works,
but Frank provides a spoken introduction to each one. During one
introduction, Frank's phone starts ringing but he plows ahead.

It's easy to be critical of what Frank has provided but let's also
keep in mind that he has done this gratis and deserves our thanks for
doing so. It may nonetheless not be everyone's cup of tea.

Rich
Peter T. Daniels
2011-12-25 17:43:10 UTC
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Post by hiker_rs
I downloaded F2001A.mp3. This mp3 not only contains 10 separate works,
but Frank provides a spoken introduction to each one. During one
introduction, Frank's phone starts ringing but he plows ahead.
It's easy to be critical of what Frank has provided but let's also
keep in mind that he has done this gratis and deserves our thanks for
doing so. It may nonetheless not be everyone's cup of tea.
But ... would it have been so much harder to do it in a way that could
be appreciated? He really does _never_ look at the threads his endless
violations of copyright produce, from which he might get some idea of
how to "work well with others." (Beethoven's 5th is "old No. 6"??)

A separate file for each work would be a bit much; but apparently the
"groupings" reflect LP sides, presumably 20 min. or so, arranged into
"programs" that Mr. Johanssen planned for listenability (the way
Graham Johnson lays out the Complete Songs series on Hyperion --
though I do wish he'd done Britten rather than Brahms for his next
batch). Thus each side could be a file, and each file could be
accompanied by the commentary in an accompanying file, and then the
whole shebang could be zipped into a single download, which would get
around the fee and the wait time.
Gerard
2011-12-25 17:58:31 UTC
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Post by Peter T. Daniels
batch). Thus each side could be a file, and each file could be
accompanied by the commentary in an accompanying file, and then the
whole shebang could be zipped into a single download, which would get
around the fee and the wait time.
There could be a problem with an upload limit (per file).
hiker_rs
2011-12-25 18:15:17 UTC
Permalink
Post by Peter T. Daniels
A separate file for each work would be a bit much; but apparently the
"groupings" reflect LP sides, presumably 20 min. or so, arranged into
"programs" that Mr. Johanssen planned for listenability (the way
Graham Johnson lays out the Complete Songs series on Hyperion --
though I do wish he'd done Britten rather than Brahms for his next
batch). Thus each side could be a file, and each file could be
accompanied by the commentary in an accompanying file, and then the
whole shebang could be zipped into a single download, which would get
around the fee and the wait time.
A separate file for each work (then collected in a zip file) would
have been more practical and less work than what he did: transfer an
LP side, break it apart to insert his spoken comments, then put it
back together again.

Putting several works on a single track killed the download for me.
But forgetting that and assuming one likes the "program" approach of
several works together I still don't think most people would
appreciate hearing the mumbled commentary time and time again. And
that's ignoring the ringing phone. :))

Rich
Frank Forman
2011-12-26 02:24:55 UTC
Permalink
My situation is this: I had a cochlear implant operation four years
ago, which resulted in improved perception of speech, but my ability to
hear music is nearly gone. What I want to do is upload what amounts to
a huge collection of 78s and early LPs that are not in European
copyright.

I can't hear music well enough to break up sides of my cassettes into
pieces and movements. If someone wants to do it for me and send me
individual movements, that would be wonderful.

However, this would involve downloading an even greater number of
files, one by one for those who don't want to buy a FileFactory
account. Even if you did, you'd have to somehow manage to index them
the way you want to listen to them. This can be tricky.

Ultimately, there are about 10,000 78s and 400 LPs! I spent several
decades swapping tapes with collecors on six continents, so there are
real treasures here.

What I'd love to get is feedback about whether the sound is "good
enough" for enlightenment and enjoyment.

Regards copyright violations, my philosophy is to presume tacit
consent. Certainly the New York Times's staff have browsed the Unenet
groups, and they discovered that articles with "NYT" are widespread
thoughout the Usenet. Should, however, they signal their discontent, it
will mean that they do not tacitly approve the practice. I do respect
the idea of copyright, and if I get a complaint, I'll obey at once.

However, as far as music uploads go, I want to be cautious, since
FileFactory will yank accounts that receive repeated complaints. Then
you will no longer be able to listen to the tresures I am in the
process of uploading them over the next several years.

I realize that YouTube has files that are manifest violation of
copyrights (such as uploading CD tracks), but it seems that the
companies don't do much about it. For classical music, that is. Don't
know about Presley and the Beatles. Not much money in OLD classical
recordings.

Yes, I would amend copyright laws to require holders to pay more than
a nominal fee every five years to keep a copyright alive. If this
becomes law, and pressure esp. from academia is mounting, the real loss
would come from failure to keep alive a copyright of early works of an
author who later becomes famous.

Frank
Post by hiker_rs
Post by Peter T. Daniels
A separate file for each work would be a bit much; but apparently the
"groupings" reflect LP sides, presumably 20 min. or so, arranged into
"programs" that Mr. Johanssen planned for listenability (the way
Graham Johnson lays out the Complete Songs series on Hyperion --
though I do wish he'd done Britten rather than Brahms for his next
batch). Thus each side could be a file, and each file could be
accompanied by the commentary in an accompanying file, and then the
whole shebang could be zipped into a single download, which would get
around the fee and the wait time.
A separate file for each work (then collected in a zip file) would
have been more practical and less work than what he did: transfer an
LP side, break it apart to insert his spoken comments, then put it
back together again.
Putting several works on a single track killed the download for me.
But forgetting that and assuming one likes the "program" approach of
several works together I still don't think most people would
appreciate hearing the mumbled commentary time and time again. And
that's ignoring the ringing phone. :))
Rich
Frank Forman
2011-12-27 01:26:36 UTC
Permalink
Gentelmen,

I have now added two zip files to the Johansen. I had to do so twice,
since a single zip file exceeded what FileFacotry would allow. Please
tell me if you are able to DOWNload them!

Coming will be the complete commercial Dr. Stock and Mengelberg, most
Rodzinski and Coates. As for LPs, look forward to the cmoplete Barylli
Quartet WITH piano, all the Westminsters of my favorite lady pianist,
Reine Gianoli, most Rybar, Spalding, and Wlach, complete Szigeti
Columbias, a most instructive Victor set The Age of Beethoven (which
comtains no Beethoven, for the same reason The Great Books of the
Western World does not contain the Bible, namely everyone has it, the
very first Vox Box, a great deal of my favorite singer, Helmut Krebs, a
great deal of the Loewenguth String Quartet. And for LPs MOER THAN
FIFTY YEARS OLD: most Casals, all Scherchen Westminsters (in WAV form
as well as MP3, should anyone care to work with them, 166 files of
various LPs, and seventy files of early stereos.

Then the flood begins, over the nest several years: the vast majority
of Columbia Musical Masterpieces and Victor Masterworks "M" sets (my
most important uploads in their entirety) and gobs of great rarities
among the 78s. But I have to properly document and index them. There
may not be more than a hundred music lovers in the world who have
enough knowledge to do so properly.

My gift to the world!

Frank
Post by Frank Forman
My situation is this: I had a cochlear implant operation four years
ago, which resulted in improved perception of speech, but my ability to
hear music is nearly gone. What I want to do is upload what amounts to
a huge collection of 78s and early LPs that are not in European
copyright.
I can't hear music well enough to break up sides of my cassettes into
pieces and movements. If someone wants to do it for me and send me
individual movements, that would be wonderful.
However, this would involve downloading an even greater number of
files, one by one for those who don't want to buy a FileFactory
account. Even if you did, you'd have to somehow manage to index them
the way you want to listen to them. This can be tricky.
Ultimately, there are about 10,000 78s and 400 LPs! I spent several
decades swapping tapes with collecors on six continents, so there are
real treasures here.
What I'd love to get is feedback about whether the sound is "good
enough" for enlightenment and enjoyment.
Regards copyright violations, my philosophy is to presume tacit
consent. Certainly the New York Times's staff have browsed the Unenet
groups, and they discovered that articles with "NYT" are widespread
thoughout the Usenet. Should, however, they signal their discontent, it
will mean that they do not tacitly approve the practice. I do respect
the idea of copyright, and if I get a complaint, I'll obey at once.
However, as far as music uploads go, I want to be cautious, since
FileFactory will yank accounts that receive repeated complaints. Then
you will no longer be able to listen to the tresures I am in the
process of uploading them over the next several years.
I realize that YouTube has files that are manifest violation of
copyrights (such as uploading CD tracks), but it seems that the
companies don't do much about it. For classical music, that is. Don't
know about Presley and the Beatles. Not much money in OLD classical
recordings.
Yes, I would amend copyright laws to require holders to pay more than
a nominal fee every five years to keep a copyright alive. If this
becomes law, and pressure esp. from academia is mounting, the real loss
would come from failure to keep alive a copyright of early works of an
author who later becomes famous.
Frank
Post by hiker_rs
Post by Peter T. Daniels
A separate file for each work would be a bit much; but apparently the
"groupings" reflect LP sides, presumably 20 min. or so, arranged into
"programs" that Mr. Johanssen planned for listenability (the way
Graham Johnson lays out the Complete Songs series on Hyperion --
though I do wish he'd done Britten rather than Brahms for his next
batch). Thus each side could be a file, and each file could be
accompanied by the commentary in an accompanying file, and then the
whole shebang could be zipped into a single download, which would get
around the fee and the wait time.
A separate file for each work (then collected in a zip file) would
have been more practical and less work than what he did: transfer an
LP side, break it apart to insert his spoken comments, then put it
back together again.
Putting several works on a single track killed the download for me.
But forgetting that and assuming one likes the "program" approach of
several works together I still don't think most people would
appreciate hearing the mumbled commentary time and time again. And
that's ignoring the ringing phone. :))
Rich
Peter T. Daniels
2011-12-27 05:05:58 UTC
Permalink
Post by Frank Forman
Gentelmen,
I have now added two zip files to the Johansen. I had to do so twice,
since a single zip file exceeded what FileFacotry would allow. Please
tell me if you are able to DOWNload them!
My gift to the world!
The two files are there. But clicking the link of the first one (1 Gb)
takes you to a page with two buttons labeled "Download." Each of them
wants to download not the file itself, but a different file management
application. There seems to be no link for downloading the file
itself.
hiker_rs
2011-12-27 14:07:26 UTC
Permalink
Post by Frank Forman
Gentelmen,
I have now added two zip files to the Johansen. I had to do so twice,
since a single zip file exceeded what FileFacotry would allow. Please
tell me if you are able to DOWNload them!
Coming will be the complete commercial Dr. Stock and Mengelberg, most
Rodzinski and Coates. As for LPs, look forward to the cmoplete Barylli
Quartet WITH piano, all the Westminsters of my favorite lady pianist,
Reine Gianoli, most Rybar, Spalding, and Wlach, complete Szigeti
Columbias, a most instructive Victor set The Age of Beethoven (which
comtains no Beethoven, for the same reason The Great Books of the
Western World does not contain the Bible, namely everyone has it, the
very first Vox Box, a great deal of my favorite singer, Helmut Krebs, a
great deal of the Loewenguth String Quartet. And for LPs MOER THAN
FIFTY YEARS OLD: most Casals, all Scherchen Westminsters (in WAV form
as well as MP3, should anyone care to work with them, 166 files of
various LPs, and seventy files of early stereos.
Then the flood begins, over the nest several years: the vast majority
of Columbia Musical Masterpieces and Victor Masterworks "M" sets (my
most important uploads in their entirety) and gobs of great rarities
among the 78s. But I have to properly document and index them. There
may not be more than a hundred music lovers in the world who have
enough knowledge to do so properly.
My gift to the world!
Frank
Frank,

Zipping the files is the way to go.

Looking fwd to your future posts.

Rich
Peter T. Daniels
2011-12-27 18:25:05 UTC
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Post by Frank Forman
Gentelmen,
I have now added two zip files to the Johansen. I had to do so twice,
since a single zip file exceeded what FileFacotry would allow. Please
tell me if you are able to DOWNload them!
Frank,
Zipping the files is the way to go.
Looking fwd to your future posts.
But were you able to download either of them? What's the secret?

(There are file-sharing sites that don't go through all this
rigmarole.)
hiker_rs
2011-12-27 19:36:08 UTC
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Post by Peter T. Daniels
Post by hiker_rs
Post by Frank Forman
Gentelmen,
I have now added two zip files to the Johansen. I had to do so twice,
since a single zip file exceeded what FileFacotry would allow. Please
tell me if you are able to DOWNload them!
Frank,
Zipping the files is the way to go.
Looking fwd to your future posts.
But were you able to download either of them? What's the secret?
(There are file-sharing sites that don't go through all this
rigmarole.)
Peter,

To these eyes (and my OS, Win7) there doesn't appear to be anything
complicated.

I click on the file, this takes me to a page with two download
buttons.
I click on the slow (free download).
I enter the captcha correctly, wait the allotted time, then hit the
download again and the dl starts.

Rich
Peter T. Daniels
2011-12-27 21:49:33 UTC
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Post by hiker_rs
Post by Peter T. Daniels
Post by hiker_rs
Post by Frank Forman
Gentelmen,
I have now added two zip files to the Johansen. I had to do so twice,
since a single zip file exceeded what FileFacotry would allow. Please
tell me if you are able to DOWNload them!
Frank,
Zipping the files is the way to go.
Looking fwd to your future posts.
But were you able to download either of them? What's the secret?
(There are file-sharing sites that don't go through all this
rigmarole.)
Peter,
To these eyes (and my OS, Win7) there doesn't appear to be anything
complicated.
I click on the file, this takes me to a page with two download
buttons.
I click on the slow (free download).
I enter the captcha correctly, wait the allotted time, then hit the
download again and the dl starts.
It seems to be working. (It started out claiming it would be "more
than 12 hours" and a minute or so later, it says 6 hr 28 min.) There
was no indication that the buttons at the bottom of the page would do
anything different than all the buttons higher up on the page, namely,
download the file we're looking for!

And when I opened my "My Music" folder, I was reminded that I need to
listen to *The Book of Mormon*, which they gave away at amazon for a
couple of bucks back when it was impossible to get a ticket to the
show and the cast album was first released.
Peter T. Daniels
2011-12-28 00:18:33 UTC
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Post by Peter T. Daniels
Post by hiker_rs
Post by Peter T. Daniels
Post by hiker_rs
Post by Frank Forman
Gentelmen,
I have now added two zip files to the Johansen. I had to do so twice,
since a single zip file exceeded what FileFacotry would allow. Please
tell me if you are able to DOWNload them!
Frank,
Zipping the files is the way to go.
Looking fwd to your future posts.
But were you able to download either of them? What's the secret?
(There are file-sharing sites that don't go through all this
rigmarole.)
Peter,
To these eyes (and my OS, Win7) there doesn't appear to be anything
complicated.
I click on the file, this takes me to a page with two download
buttons.
I click on the slow (free download).
I enter the captcha correctly, wait the allotted time, then hit the
download again and the dl starts.
It seems to be working. (It started out claiming it would be "more
than 12 hours" and a minute or so later, it says 6 hr 28 min.) There
was no indication that the buttons at the bottom of the page would do
anything different than all the buttons higher up on the page, namely,
download the file we're looking for!
Ok, after about 3 hr I noticed that the "Downloading" strip in IE8
wasn't there any more, so I tried opening what had been downloaded.
That takes up 355 Mb, not 1 Gb, on the hard drive, but 7-zip file
manager reports that the folder is empty and nothing can be extracted.
Could it still be downloading, even though the indicator went away?

I asked filefactory for the second, smaller, file, and it said I can
have it in 2300 or so seconds, and it's counting them down now.

Did you (hiker_rs) have any more success?
Peter T. Daniels
2011-12-28 05:57:38 UTC
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Post by Peter T. Daniels
Post by Peter T. Daniels
Post by hiker_rs
Post by Peter T. Daniels
Post by hiker_rs
Post by Frank Forman
Gentelmen,
I have now added two zip files to the Johansen. I had to do so twice,
since a single zip file exceeded what FileFacotry would allow. Please
tell me if you are able to DOWNload them!
Frank,
Zipping the files is the way to go.
Looking fwd to your future posts.
But were you able to download either of them? What's the secret?
(There are file-sharing sites that don't go through all this
rigmarole.)
Peter,
To these eyes (and my OS, Win7) there doesn't appear to be anything
complicated.
I click on the file, this takes me to a page with two download
buttons.
I click on the slow (free download).
I enter the captcha correctly, wait the allotted time, then hit the
download again and the dl starts.
It seems to be working. (It started out claiming it would be "more
than 12 hours" and a minute or so later, it says 6 hr 28 min.) There
was no indication that the buttons at the bottom of the page would do
anything different than all the buttons higher up on the page, namely,
download the file we're looking for!
Ok, after about 3 hr I noticed that the "Downloading" strip in IE8
wasn't there any more, so I tried opening what had been downloaded.
That takes up 355 Mb, not 1 Gb, on the hard drive, but 7-zip file
manager reports that the folder is empty and nothing can be extracted.
Could it still be downloading, even though the indicator went away?
I asked filefactory for the second, smaller, file, and it said I can
have it in 2300 or so seconds, and it's counting them down now.
Did you (hiker_rs) have any more success?-
Yet another progress report: After the 2300-odd seconds were up, and I
got the Download arrow again, I tried to, and it claimed that I was
already downloading something so i couldn't do another until it was
finished.

It now claims to be 372 Mb, so a bit more of it may have downloaded.
Peter T. Daniels
2011-12-28 13:16:05 UTC
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Post by Peter T. Daniels
Post by Peter T. Daniels
Post by Peter T. Daniels
Post by hiker_rs
Post by Peter T. Daniels
Post by hiker_rs
Post by Frank Forman
Gentelmen,
I have now added two zip files to the Johansen. I had to do so twice,
since a single zip file exceeded what FileFacotry would allow. Please
tell me if you are able to DOWNload them!
Frank,
Zipping the files is the way to go.
Looking fwd to your future posts.
But were you able to download either of them? What's the secret?
(There are file-sharing sites that don't go through all this
rigmarole.)
Peter,
To these eyes (and my OS, Win7) there doesn't appear to be anything
complicated.
I click on the file, this takes me to a page with two download
buttons.
I click on the slow (free download).
I enter the captcha correctly, wait the allotted time, then hit the
download again and the dl starts.
It seems to be working. (It started out claiming it would be "more
than 12 hours" and a minute or so later, it says 6 hr 28 min.) There
was no indication that the buttons at the bottom of the page would do
anything different than all the buttons higher up on the page, namely,
download the file we're looking for!
Ok, after about 3 hr I noticed that the "Downloading" strip in IE8
wasn't there any more, so I tried opening what had been downloaded.
That takes up 355 Mb, not 1 Gb, on the hard drive, but 7-zip file
manager reports that the folder is empty and nothing can be extracted.
Could it still be downloading, even though the indicator went away?
I asked filefactory for the second, smaller, file, and it said I can
have it in 2300 or so seconds, and it's counting them down now.
Did you (hiker_rs) have any more success?-
Yet another progress report: After the 2300-odd seconds were up, and I
got the Download arrow again, I tried to, and it claimed that I was
already downloading something so i couldn't do another until it was
finished.
It now claims to be 372 Mb, so a bit more of it may have downloaded.-
Overnight, it managed to downlad 1 Mb of the second file and nothing
more of the first file.
Peter T. Daniels
2011-12-26 01:49:14 UTC
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Post by hiker_rs
Post by Peter T. Daniels
A separate file for each work would be a bit much; but apparently the
"groupings" reflect LP sides, presumably 20 min. or so, arranged into
"programs" that Mr. Johanssen planned for listenability (the way
Graham Johnson lays out the Complete Songs series on Hyperion --
though I do wish he'd done Britten rather than Brahms for his next
batch). Thus each side could be a file, and each file could be
accompanied by the commentary in an accompanying file, and then the
whole shebang could be zipped into a single download, which would get
around the fee and the wait time.
A separate file for each work (then collected in a zip file) would
have been more practical and less work than what he did: transfer an
LP side, break it apart to insert his spoken comments, then put it
back together again.
Hmm ... I was supposing some sort of "Pause" function in the system.

That would be a _very_ large number of files ... although back when
amazon was selling the complete DFD Schubert as a $3.95 download,
they're all individual files.
Post by hiker_rs
Putting several works on a single track killed the download for me.
But forgetting that and assuming one likes the "program" approach of
several works together I still don't think most people would
appreciate hearing the mumbled commentary time and time again. And
that's ignoring the ringing phone. :))
Remember he is fairly deaf, so may not be aware of the ringing phone
-- or that his remarks sound "mumbled."
Peter T. Daniels
2011-12-30 14:10:51 UTC
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Post by Peter T. Daniels
Post by hiker_rs
Post by Peter T. Daniels
A separate file for each work would be a bit much; but apparently the
"groupings" reflect LP sides, presumably 20 min. or so, arranged into
"programs" that Mr. Johanssen planned for listenability (the way
Graham Johnson lays out the Complete Songs series on Hyperion --
though I do wish he'd done Britten rather than Brahms for his next
batch). Thus each side could be a file, and each file could be
accompanied by the commentary in an accompanying file, and then the
whole shebang could be zipped into a single download, which would get
around the fee and the wait time.
A separate file for each work (then collected in a zip file) would
have been more practical and less work than what he did: transfer an
LP side, break it apart to insert his spoken comments, then put it
back together again.
Hmm ... I was supposing some sort of "Pause" function in the system.
That would be a _very_ large number of files ... although back when
amazon was selling the complete DFD Schubert as a $3.95 download,
they're all individual files.
Post by hiker_rs
Putting several works on a single track killed the download for me.
But forgetting that and assuming one likes the "program" approach of
several works together I still don't think most people would
appreciate hearing the mumbled commentary time and time again. And
that's ignoring the ringing phone. :))
Remember he is fairly deaf, so may not be aware of the ringing phone
-- or that his remarks sound "mumbled."-
I've succeeded in downloading a few of the individual files -- it
takes about half an hour for each one. I was most interested in
Busoni's Fantasia Contrappuntistica; the performance isn't exactly
inspired.

Mr. Forman-Checker's "mumbled" introductions are simply attempts to
say the name of the piece and its "Schmieder" number. He hasn't the
faintest clue of how to pronounce German and simply says the title as
if it were in English spelling. I wonder whether those insertions are
very recent, as some of them sound to a degree like the speech of deaf
people.

Also the Kunst der Fuge and WTC, where at least for the second item on
each of the tapes, he doesn't insert an announcement.

The uploads are marred, however, by horrendous tape wow and print-
through -- how many years have the tape dupes been sitting tightly
wound upright on a shelf?

The recorded sound is occasionally good, but sometimes the microphones
are too close to the piano and we hear the percussion of the hammers.
(I thought the engineers solved that problem in the earliest days of
piano recording.)
Peter T. Daniels
2011-12-31 05:20:23 UTC
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Post by Peter T. Daniels
Post by Peter T. Daniels
Post by hiker_rs
Post by Peter T. Daniels
A separate file for each work would be a bit much; but apparently the
"groupings" reflect LP sides, presumably 20 min. or so, arranged into
"programs" that Mr. Johanssen planned for listenability (the way
Graham Johnson lays out the Complete Songs series on Hyperion --
though I do wish he'd done Britten rather than Brahms for his next
batch). Thus each side could be a file, and each file could be
accompanied by the commentary in an accompanying file, and then the
whole shebang could be zipped into a single download, which would get
around the fee and the wait time.
A separate file for each work (then collected in a zip file) would
have been more practical and less work than what he did: transfer an
LP side, break it apart to insert his spoken comments, then put it
back together again.
Hmm ... I was supposing some sort of "Pause" function in the system.
That would be a _very_ large number of files ... although back when
amazon was selling the complete DFD Schubert as a $3.95 download,
they're all individual files.
Post by hiker_rs
Putting several works on a single track killed the download for me.
But forgetting that and assuming one likes the "program" approach of
several works together I still don't think most people would
appreciate hearing the mumbled commentary time and time again. And
that's ignoring the ringing phone. :))
Remember he is fairly deaf, so may not be aware of the ringing phone
-- or that his remarks sound "mumbled."-
I've succeeded in downloading a few of the individual files -- it
takes about half an hour for each one. I was most interested in
Busoni's Fantasia Contrappuntistica; the performance isn't exactly
inspired.
Mr. Forman-Checker's "mumbled" introductions are simply attempts to
say the name of the piece and its "Schmieder" number. He hasn't the
faintest clue of how to pronounce German and simply says the title as
if it were in English spelling. I wonder whether those insertions are
very recent, as some of them sound to a degree like the speech of deaf
people.
Also the Kunst der Fuge and WTC, where at least for the second item on
each of the tapes, he doesn't insert an announcement.
The uploads are marred, however, by horrendous tape wow and print-
through -- how many years have the tape dupes been sitting tightly
wound upright on a shelf?
The recorded sound is occasionally good, but sometimes the microphones
are too close to the piano and we hear the percussion of the hammers.
(I thought the engineers solved that problem in the earliest days of
piano recording.)-
NB The Notes for vol. 8 (Inventions & Sinfonias) are missing.
Peter T. Daniels
2012-01-26 23:21:58 UTC
Permalink
Post by Peter T. Daniels
Post by Peter T. Daniels
Post by hiker_rs
Post by Peter T. Daniels
A separate file for each work would be a bit much; but apparently the
"groupings" reflect LP sides, presumably 20 min. or so, arranged into
"programs" that Mr. Johanssen planned for listenability (the way
Graham Johnson lays out the Complete Songs series on Hyperion --
though I do wish he'd done Britten rather than Brahms for his next
batch). Thus each side could be a file, and each file could be
accompanied by the commentary in an accompanying file, and then the
whole shebang could be zipped into a single download, which would get
around the fee and the wait time.
A separate file for each work (then collected in a zip file) would
have been more practical and less work than what he did: transfer an
LP side, break it apart to insert his spoken comments, then put it
back together again.
Hmm ... I was supposing some sort of "Pause" function in the system.
That would be a _very_ large number of files ... although back when
amazon was selling the complete DFD Schubert as a $3.95 download,
they're all individual files.
Post by hiker_rs
Putting several works on a single track killed the download for me.
But forgetting that and assuming one likes the "program" approach of
several works together I still don't think most people would
appreciate hearing the mumbled commentary time and time again. And
that's ignoring the ringing phone. :))
Remember he is fairly deaf, so may not be aware of the ringing phone
-- or that his remarks sound "mumbled."-
I've succeeded in downloading a few of the individual files -- it
takes about half an hour for each one. I was most interested in
Busoni's Fantasia Contrappuntistica; the performance isn't exactly
inspired.
Mr. Forman-Checker's "mumbled" introductions are simply attempts to
say the name of the piece and its "Schmieder" number. He hasn't the
faintest clue of how to pronounce German and simply says the title as
if it were in English spelling. I wonder whether those insertions are
very recent, as some of them sound to a degree like the speech of deaf
people.
Also the Kunst der Fuge and WTC, where at least for the second item on
each of the tapes, he doesn't insert an announcement.
The uploads are marred, however, by horrendous tape wow and print-
through -- how many years have the tape dupes been sitting tightly
wound upright on a shelf?
The recorded sound is occasionally good, but sometimes the microphones
are too close to the piano and we hear the percussion of the hammers.
(I thought the engineers solved that problem in the earliest days of
piano recording.)-
NB The Notes for vol. 8 (Inventions & Sinfonias) are missing.-
And now, the entire "folder" of uploads is missing -- or is it just
that "heavy traffic" keeps it from responding?

Curlytop
2011-12-28 21:02:40 UTC
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hiker_rs set the following eddies spiralling through the space-time
Post by hiker_rs
And after all for only $12 you can buy Filefactory's
cheapest membership and get the whole lot simply.
I'm in the UK. Where am I going to get $12 from without incurring five times
that in bank charges? My financial history is not compatible with a credit
card.
--
ξ:) Proud to be curly - the entity formerly known as Prai Jei.

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