Post by BTR1701Post by Robin MillerPost by EGKOn Mon, 29 Jun 2020 00:29:37 -0400, Robin Miller
Post by Robin MillerPost by EGKOn Sun, 28 Jun 2020 23:44:40 -0400, Robin Miller
Post by Robin MillerSun, 28 Jun 2020 20:10:15 -0700 Robin
Post by Robin MillerI just thought of her tonight. I liked her so much in BtVS, and not
just because she was Willow's girlfriend. I've rarely seen her
since then.
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0072435/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amber_Benson
https://www.amazon.com/Amber-Benson/e/B001IU2TNW
https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/authors/58695/amber-benson
https://twitter.com/amber_benson
I guess the upshot is that she's doing a lot of things, but I'm
unlikely to see her again on TV unless I'm watching old BtVS episodes.
That's interesting because most Buffy fans hate her with a fiery
passion usually reserved for Warren and his friends. :)
Really? When she was on BtVS she seemed very popular with fans, at least
the ones I knew online. Why don't fans you know like her?
I'm not Anim8tr but I bet I can give his answer. Marti Noxon who was
the one responsible for bringing Tara in as a character and who
many people felt ruined the series. :)
I didn't mind the addition of Tara and Amber seemed nice enough in
interviews but there was nothing in the show to suggest Willow was gay
before. It made it seem to a some people like the writers were
pandering. Lots of fans did love the character and loved Willow and
Tara became gay icons.
I understand and remember the Marti Noxon hate, although I don't know
why that would be turned against Amber.
Maybe I was just in a bubble of Amber Benson fans at the time, but I
actually remember thinking it was a little crazy how much fans liked her.
It's probably similar to how a lot of people feel about the CW shows now.
I couldn't care less if characters are straight or gay or trans or
whatever is currently in vogue.
I have to say, the trans-girl on STUPIDGIRL is pretty amazing. I had no
idea she's really a dude until someone here mentioned it and I looked up
the IMDb bio. Looks and seems completely female to me. I applaud his/her
transition skills.
Post by Robin MillerPost by EGKIt's pretty obvious when Hollywood is pushing an agenda though. My
problem comes when the agenda becomes the focal point of the shows
to the detriment of the rest of the writing.
I think that and "shippers" who wanted Willow with Xander or Oz also had
something to do with any dislike for Tara. I honestly don't remember
being a lot of dislike for her. Her arrival just coincided with what some
fans felt was a gradual decline of the series. Then a fall off a cliff in
season 6 when Noxon took over. Ian and Anim8tr will liikely both chime in
saying the show only ran 3 seasons. :D.
I had completely forgotten about Oz. I don't think I ever cared for Seth
Green's character, for some reason. You're right, there was a lot of
competition among fans for Willow's affections!
That was my problem with it. Willow was obviously straight for the first
three seasons, then the show got a new boss with an agenda and suddenly
she turned gay, which not only f'd-up the character but always seemed
insulting to gay people as well-- that sexuality really is just a choice
and people can just bounce back and forth from one orientation to
another like flavors of ice cream.
But I didn't blame or dislike Benson for any of that. Wasn't her fault.
Season 3: Episode 50 "Dopplegangland"
After Vamp Willow and Regular Willow have their first encounter, Willow
tells Buffy "I think she's kind of gay", and then Buffy says "Well
Willow remember, a vampire does not represent who the person was as a
human", and then Angel says "Actually...nevermind".
Almost nothing a character says isn't written... and Wheedon has been
quoted as wanting a gay character from the beginning - but was toying
between Willow and Xander.
It's doubtful everybody (3 characters) were ALL ad-libbing. But what do
I know? You've said I don't actually watch any television... and you're
never wrong.
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