Discussion:
Kook melts down! Re: PATRICK MICHAEL SULLIVAN wants to see a "kook meldown when caught lying"?. Well here ya go, PMS aka 100+ aliases, look in the mirror
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a***@gmail.com
2005-07-12 15:45:49 UTC
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EVER A MORON in 2005, PATRICK MICHAEL SULLIVAN, self-confessed car and
boat thief, being sued for cyber stalking in the Supreme Court of
British Columbia in Case S42823, whined and froths more than a Guinness
poured by a trainee barmaid while doing it's kooky meltdown when caught
lying, *again*,


> Excuse me, you FAT FUCK.


"Fat Fuck"? Isn't that what Big Bad JT calls you? Isn't he the guy you
stalked for years, outed to the Holocaust revisionalists, and then
wanted to fist fight... and *you* were then a no-show, PATRICK MICHAEL
SULLIVAN?

Isn't "fat fuck" a play on "Fat Pat"?

Is "Fat Pat" one of your 100+ aliases, PATRICK MICHAEL SULLIVAN?

Like ***@aol.com ?

AOL? Whooops!
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/van.general/msg/eb96107b4acffb63?hl=en&

Was that you posting that message, PATRICK MICHAEL SULLIVAN? Does your
family practice law? Or does someone *with a name like yours practice
law* and a Nanaimo cyber stalker wanted to mislead people like only a
car and boat thief would?

I will never excuse you, or anything you did to me, and to the others
you have smeared, stalked, threatened, and libeled.




> But YOU posted my NAME, TELEPHONE NUMBER

Uh oh... when PATRICK MICHAEL SULLIVAN speaks, it reeks of Excrement Of
Bovine!

Patrick Michael Sullivan on 17 Nov 2003 03:04:21 GMT in
<***@posting.google.com> :

"My number is up on my site. Reverse look up the number and tell me if
I am a fake. With the reverse look up you will get my home address, as
well. I have nothing to hide, unlike you, Pym."



You weren't even replying to me then, you stupid lying scumbag. And you
said you had nothing to hide, scumbag. So what are you whining about,
you flip-flopping flim-flam fruitcake?

You outed *yourself*.




> *YOU* pin pointed my location.

Patrick Michael Sullivan did it to itself. See above.





> But NO ONE DID THAT TO YOU, did they?

Not from your lack of trying, scumbag!






> You specifically identified my location and posted info about me in a
> defamatory fashion in an attempt to humiliate me and ruin my life.

Whooops! Evem more Excrement Of Bovine from PATRICK MICHAEL SULLIVAN!

PATRICK MICHAEL SULLIVAN on 3 Nov 2003 00:39:20 GMT, in
Message-ID: <***@mb-m15.aol.com>

"I could not give one-shit about what others think of me, or say of me.
If I did, I would have been dead years ago. It's all water under the
bridge, ya know? My life is a "cup of salt water taken from the ocean"
- meaning, if that cup was taken, no one would know it was here and
gone."

and

"It's all dots and digits on my monitor and it has no bearing in "real
life"."



PATRICK MICHAEL SULLIVAN on 19 Nov 2003 01:02:30 GMT, in Message-ID:
<***@mb-m15.aol.com>

"And as far as being a convicted felon goes, I couldn't care less what
other people think or say of me."



PATRICK MICHAEL SULLIVAN on 19 Nov 2003 01:55:15 GMT, in Message-ID:
<***@mb-m15.aol.com> :

"I said I don't care what other people think of me. I know who I am
and that's all that matters to me in this world. What others say or
think of me means nothing to me. Why should it? If I were to live
like that, I may as well be dead."


Well, PATRICK MICHAEL SULLIVAN, looks like your big kook spew is kinda
negated by all that above, doesn't it?

Bwhahahahahaha!







> No one outed you, ROBERT GRIFFIN.

You did, you stupid liar in denial.

Stop lying about it.

Nah, on second thought: keep lying, kook; get yourself into more
trouble -- your usual moronic modus operandi.







> BTW! If you ever have the guts to show up here

Is it true you are a gutless coward afraid of *a piece of paper*
PATRICK MICHAEL SULLIVAN?

Knock! Knock!

Bwhahahaha!






> See me face to face. Stand up like a man. Quit hiding. Show some back bone.

Why don't you answer the front door, PATRICK MICHAEL SULLIVAN?

Surely you're not afraid of a piece of paper, are you, you <sarc> big
brave man? </sarc>





Then comes the King Pong PATRICK MICHAEL SULLIVAN Fist Fight Challenge:

> To hide any longer only confirms
> in my mind and the minds of others that you are truly a PHYSICAL
> COWARD.

Viper, JT from van.general, and Red Corsair: are you reading this from
PATRICK MICHAEL SULLIVAN?

Hemlock and Broadway all over again?

Has someone been trying to give you something for the last week, "Ping
Mail Inbox"?

Ping Mail Inbox!
Ping Mail Inbox!
Ping Mail Inbox!

Bling! You have email, kook!



> See you in court, if you have the guts, short ass!

Says a kook afraid of a piece of paper?

BWhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!








From: ***@myway.com
Newsgroups:
alt.suicide.holiday,alt.religion.christianity,alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.bible
Subject: ROBERT GRIFFIN wants to see "outing". Well here ya go, ROBERT
GRIFFIN AKA MAGNUS PYM!
Date: 11 Jul 2005 07:14:47 -0700
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Excuse me, you FAT FUCK. But YOU posted my NAME, TELEPHONE NUMBER, HOME
ADDRESS and other stuff about me and others on ASH for the world to see
and then you smeared me and other with lies and libel, you FAT UGLY
SHORT LITTLE TWERP. Now who did the above to you? Who posted your home
address, huh? NO ONE!

*YOU* pin pointed my location. But NO ONE DID THAT TO YOU, did they?
You specifically identified my location and posted info about me in a
defamatory fashion in an attempt to humiliate me and ruin my life. And
the pin pointing of my location also allowed other people to stalk and
harass me. And you, ROBERT GRIFFIN, are going to pay for your years of
fucking stalking and harassment against myself and others. Because I
had people send threats to me after you posted my contact info. I had
strangers telephone me, some were nice, some were not. I did not want
that info posted on ASH, especially in a defamatory and HARASSING
fashion. And your actions were CYBER STALKING and CRIMINAL HARASSMENT,
you fat little shit.

No one outed you, ROBERT GRIFFIN. No one posted your home address PIN
POINTING your location, like you did to us, did they? The name ROBERT
GRIFFIN and MAGNUS PYM don't mean a damn thing without an address
attached, you stoopid fat fuck. How many Robert Griffin's are there in
the world or even in AU? But there is only one *ME* at the address you
published of myself.

You outed me with contact info attached and you posted lies and
harassment of me, you short, fat little shit. I could not give a shit
what the time stamps state, because often they can be wrong and so can
you. No one here that I know of ever posted your name here without it
first being posted by you, cyber stalker.

BTW! If you ever have the guts to show up here for you Ko0ksuit, then
do so. I want to see you FACE TO FACE. But from what a lady here
stated, you probably don't have the guts to do that. Rather, you just
cry and blubber over the phone like a little boy.

Come to your ko0ksuit, Robert. See me face to face. Stand up like a
man. Quit hiding. Show some back bone. To hide any longer only confirms
in my mind and the minds of others that you are truly a PHYSICAL
COWARD.

In the meanwhile, yes, there is an investigation going on about you. As
I said previously, don't take this as a joke, ROBERT GRIFFIN. A few of
us want you charged for various cyber crimes and stalking, because you
fucked up our lives.

HOW MANY TIMES DID YOU POST MY HOME ADDRESS AND NAME ON USENET, YOU
COCK SUCKER?

See you in court, if you have the guts, short ass!

***@gmail.com wrote:
> Anyone looking for a new fool?
>
> > ~ vera ~ wrote:
> > > I do not believe you a word.
> > >
> > > At what time exactly shall RG have "outed" himself on that Dec 29th,
> > > 2003?
> > >
> > >
> >
> > What an idiot.
>
> Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail
> From: ***@hotmail.com (Hedges Sofa #1)
> Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday,alt.suicide.methods
> Subject: Regarding Magnus Pym AKA Robert Griffin and His Hatred of
> Women
> Date: 29 Dec 2003 13:36:49 -0800
> Organization: http://groups.google.com
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> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
> X-Trace: posting.google.com 1072733810 25563 127.0.0.1 (29 Dec 2003
> 21:36:50 GMT)
> X-Complaints-To: groups-***@google.com
> NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 21:36:50 +0000 (UTC)
> Xref: uni-berlin.de alt.suicide.holiday:352690
> alt.suicide.methods:30244
>
>
> Let's see. Reading the time of the above post in GMT: PATRICK MICHAEL
> SULLIVAN outed me at 21:36.50 -- some 20 minutes *before* I had
> responded with the alleged "outing [my]self" post at 08:57:45 +1100...
>
> Do basic mathematics, plus a dateline conversion:
>
> My post was at 21:57.45 GMT!
>
> The outing was at 16:36.50 in The Zone Of The Black Hole Of Truth!
>
> Uh oh!
>
> Notice the name in the subject?
>
> In the subject header?
>
> Posted by one email address of over 100 legally proven ones used by
> PATRICK MICHAEL SULLIVAN?
>
> Notice the AOL IP address in the header -- the IP address that traces
> to an account used by PATRICK MICHAEL SULLIVAN?
>
> Uh oh!
>
> Guess someone better go "Looking For A New Fool", eh?
>
> Oh dear, oh my.... someone's little flopsy rabbit has been caught lying
> for a stalker... again.
>
> Oh dear... oh my... the same stalker, ever a moron, who thought
> skipping work for a day to nuke it's filthy posting history would pay
> off...
>
> > What an idiot.
>
> Bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
>
>
>
>
> > Let's see. In my time zone, it was at 1659. Notice his real name
> > below? In the email header? Right next to the email address that he
> > uses at times? Notice the primus.au IP address in the header?
> >
> > Don't be a fool.
> >
> >
> > From: Bob Griffin <***@hotmail.com>
> > Newsgroups:
> > alt.suicide.holiday,alt.usenet.kooks,alt.suicide.methods,van.general,can.legal
> > Subject: [PREDATOR PATRICK SULLIVAN] Re: i ruined a perfectly good life
> > - mine
> > Followup-To: alt.usenet.kooks
> > Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003 08:57:45 +1100
> > Organization: nil
> > Lines: 52
> > Message-ID: <***@hotmail.com>
> > References: <bs7sbo$9r0$***@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu>
> > <***@mb-m01.aol.com>
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> > Mime-Version: 1.0
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> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
> > X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1072735151 336908 210.50.154.36 ([99621])
> > X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
> > X-Accept-Language: en
Barbara Schwarz
2005-07-12 15:52:29 UTC
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***@gmail.com wrote:
> EVER

Everybody can file a harassing law suit against a person, Robert
Griffin, but winning is the difficult part. I read that complaint that
you filed against Patrick and came to the conclusion that it has no
merit. But what I noticed is that you admitted in the case to be Magnus
Pym, which means that everything you posted and did with that ID can be
used against you in a court of law.

In other words, Bobby, if you should against all odds win that case,
lots of people have a precedent to win against you. You forgot to
consider that, didn't you?

Barbara Schwarz
a***@gmail.com
2005-07-12 16:17:36 UTC
Permalink
Barbara Schwarz, $cientologist nutcase, abused the facilities of the
Salt Lake City Public Library to babble:

> Everybody can file a harassing law suit against a person, Robert
> Griffin, but winning is the difficult part.

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Case No. VFA-0679, 28 DOE ¶ 80,178
http://www.oha.doe.gov/cases/foia/vfa0679.htm

Case No. VFA-0641, 28 DOE ¶ 80,140
http://www.oha.doe.gov/cases/foia/vfa0641.htm

Re: FOIA Appeal, your letter of April 20, 2000
http://www.ncua.gov/FOIA/Appeals/FOIA-Decisions/00-0431.htm

http://www.prc.gov/foia/FOIAREQUESTS2000.htm

Dismissal of Schwarz v. FBI as Frivolous
http://www.fas.org/sgp/foia/schwarz.html


Cease and Desist, Barbara Schwarz.
Barbara Schwarz
2005-07-12 16:46:10 UTC
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***@gmail.com wrote:
> Barbara Schwarz,

***@gmail.com is Robert Griffin filed 26 false and libelous
complaints against me to my library in just two months as the kook
Robert is anti-free speech and jealous of my friendship with Patrick
Michael Sullivan.

Barbara Schwarz
Kevin
2005-07-12 16:52:17 UTC
Permalink
In article <***@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Barbara Schwarz" <***@myway.com> wrote:

> ***@gmail.com wrote:
> > Barbara Schwarz,
>
> ***@gmail.com is Robert Griffin filed 26 false and libelous
> complaints against me to my library in just two months as the kook
> Robert is anti-free speech and jealous of my friendship with Patrick
> Michael Sullivan.
>
> Barbara Schwarz


Ahahah false? NOT

They read your posts Barb. The do a search for you on the internet Barb.

You've made your own bed. Now lay in it.

--

Beware of Barbara Schwarz She is a known Usenet WACKO

http://www.ahbl.org/notices/barbschwarz.php
Barbara Schwarz
2005-07-12 17:25:29 UTC
Permalink
Kevin wrote:
> In article <***@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> "Barbara Schwarz" <***@myway.com> wrote:
>
> > ***@gmail.com wrote:
> > > Barbara Schwarz,
> >
> > ***@gmail.com is Robert Griffin filed 26 false and libelous
> > complaints against me to my library in just two months as the kook
> > Robert is anti-free speech and jealous of my friendship with Patrick
> > Michael Sullivan.
> >
> > Barbara Schwarz
>
>
> Ahahah false? NOT
>
> They read your posts Barb. The do a search for you on the internet Barb.
>
> You've made your own bed. Now lay in it.


Fine, as long as you sicko and stalker don't come to lay with me in it.

Barbara Schwarz
Kevin
2005-07-12 17:45:17 UTC
Permalink
In article <***@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
"Barbara Schwarz" <***@myway.com> wrote:


> Fine, as long as you sicko and stalker don't come to lay with me in it.
>
> Barbara Schwarz

Again, I am not the one with a history of stalking Barb. You are.

And you can better bet I wouldn't share any bed with you.

I hear you piss the sheets regularly.



--

Beware of Barbara Schwarz She is a known Usenet WACKO

http://www.ahbl.org/notices/barbschwarz.php
Kansas
2005-07-12 18:21:11 UTC
Permalink
Kevin wrote:
> In article <***@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
> "Barbara Schwarz" <***@myway.com> wrote:
>
>
> > Fine, as long as you sicko and stalker don't come to lay with me in it.
> >
> > Barbara Schwarz
>
> Again, I am not the one with a history of stalking Barb. You are.
>
> And you can better bet I wouldn't share any bed with you.
>
> I hear you piss the sheets regularly.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Beware of Barbara Schwarz She is a known Usenet WACKO
>
> http://www.ahbl.org/notices/barbschwar


John Stilwell a NANAE kook who posts with ID "Kevin" and "Viper" in
support of the anti-religious extremists
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/index.html . The
criminal man opened e-mail accounts the name of Barbara Schwarz and
forgers her with those.

He is Brian J. Bruns' friend and spams his libelous and malicious
website on Usenet in his "signature line". Below is a very revealing
posting of Barbara Schwarz that she posted recently on ARS.

==============================================================================================


I have not had much time for Brian Bruns the last couple of days, but I
am
here to set him straight. If people want to know the TRUTH and who he
"Hacked", this posting will help. He plead to a lesser charge strictly
to avoid trial and the prosecutor wanted to save time and the
taxpayers' money regarding a PUNK! He actually HACKED the computers of
Access Highway, his *former employer, but was allowed to plea to a
lesser FELONY, but is still a CONVICTED FELON! Nothing I ever posted
about the man was false or illegal! I am responding to a PUNK who
defames and libels me through the Internet and his Web Site. My
postings are strictly a credibility issue!

Ask here:

*Pat Prague with ISP http://accesshighway.com ... (631) 232-9119
regarding the hacking of his ISP by Bruns and subsequent jail time.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&oi=defmore&q=define:Plea+bargain

An agreement between a criminal defendant and a prosecutor in which
the defendant admits having committed a crime. In return, the
prosecutor asks the judge to impose a less severe sentence than had
the defendant been convicted at a trial. The judge is not bound by the
terms of a plea bargain. A plea bargain ensures that a guilty
defendant is punished.
www.bereamunicourt.org/info.asp

to agree to a guilty plea to a less serious charge in order to have a
more serious charge dropped.
www.nationaltcc.org/tcc/


John Stilwell (Viper) (Kevin) is a NANAE punk and admitted on NANAE to
a criminal history. His friend is Brian Bruns, a convicted computer
crimes felon. Both are men in their early twenties and apparently have
no ripe minds. They tried to bully me, Barbara Schwarz from the
Internet by stalking me on the net with their postings, filing false
complaints about me and defaming me. They try to blackmail the ISPs of
people they don't like by blocking the ISPs access to the net. Brians
Bruns put a defamatory website with false information about me up which
both constantly spam in the newsgroups in their footnotes of every
posting they make or otherwise.

Bruns and Stiwell tried to blackmail my ISP, the UEN by demanding from
them to do as they ask or they would block them from parts of the
Internet, which both above the law men the actually did. I never
spammed, I just responded to lies, forgeries and defamation about
myself, put on the net by either Bruns, Stilwell and their friends or
them all together. But for sake of argument, let's say my postings
would have been spam. That does NOT justify what Bruns and Stilwell
did, and that was blocking an state ISP from the net, the UEN, who
provides libraries, schools, colleges and universities with the
Internet access. The UEN is an official and no private institution and
Bruns and Stilwell's acts to block the UEN was another felony by both
men, in not just my law books.

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.christnet.christianlife/msg/050f96df5f5124b6?dmode=source&hl=en

Read also this about Brian Bruns:

Brian Bruns, Ex- Convict, Felon Indictment Numbers..I-1577-02,S-2423-02



SAPD Police Report # 05071019

http://www.co.suffolk.ny.us/da/press/2002/06_26_02.htm

6/26/02

Commack man indicted for hacking

A 21-year-old Commack man has been indicted by a Suffolk County Grand
Jury on first degree Computer Tampering charges. Brian J. Bruns will be
arraigned Thursday, June 27 before Judge Joseph Farneti in Riverhead.

The Suffolk County Police Computer Crime Unit arrested Bruns for
disrupting the business operations of his former employer and the
firm's clients. The company, Access Highway in Central Islip, fired
Bruns on May 17 and soon experienced problems in its delivery of
Internet and other services to several clients.

Two search warrants were executed at Bruns home at 84 Florida Avenue.
Police found pirated computer software and other evidence in the house.
The charge of Computer Tampering alleges that Brun intentionally
altered computer data essential to the operation of networks systems
operated by Access Highway. Brun's alleged hacking damaged Access
Highway's operations costing the firm, according to the indictment,
over $50,000 in damages.

First degree Computer Tampering is a felony punishable by a prison term
of 7 and one-half to 15 years. Brun was also charged with Criminal
Mischief in the second degree, a D felony carrying a prison term of 3
and one-half to 7 years.

==========================

Bruns made a "Plea Bargain With The DA" . Only indictment 1577.02 was
dismissed and he plead out to a lesser Class E Felony (Crime 156.30) on
Indictment 2423-02 and waived his right to appeal as part of the plea.
Date of disposition 12/02/2002. Five years probation, no alcohol,
narcotics, mandatory surcharge waived, etc and all acknowledged by
DEFENDANT! So, if anyone has proof of probation violations, contact
Officer Benedetto at 631-852-5084.

156.30 Unlawful duplication of computer related material. ... Computer
trespass is a class E felony.

It is irony that this man calls other people abusers. The "ahbl" is his
abusive website.

http://freespeechstore.com/public/Sub_Public6/2628_Brian_Bruns__Ex-_Convict__Felon_Indictment_Numbers..I-1577-02_S-2423-02.htm

http://freespeechstore.com/public/Sub_Public6/2629_Ahbl.org__Sosdg.org_Antispam_Lists_Run_By_Convicted_Felon_Brian_Bruns!.htm


Go also to the www.freespeechstore.com, and enter the names Brian
Bruns, Viper, John Stilwell and you find out more about the NANAE punks
and google also the term "NANAE punks".

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=NANAE+punks%2BViper&btnG=Search





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Greg Carr
2005-07-12 19:39:21 UTC
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He is a jailbird and a typical drunken Surrey criminal. You live in
Utah. LAMERS. Your freindship is imaginary.

On 12 Jul 2005 09:46:10 -0700, "Barbara Schwarz"
<***@myway.com> wrote:

>
>
>***@gmail.com wrote:
>> Barbara Schwarz,
>
>***@gmail.com is Robert Griffin filed 26 false and libelous
>complaints against me to my library in just two months as the kook
>Robert is anti-free speech and jealous of my friendship with Patrick
>Michael Sullivan.
>
>Barbara Schwarz
a***@gmail.com
2005-07-12 21:02:46 UTC
Permalink
Greg Carr wrote:


> He is a jailbird and a typical drunken Surrey criminal.

Nanaimo actually, not Surrey.

Misrepresenting the location as Surrey appears to have been done so
that the kook could challenge people to fist fights in van.general and
remain hidden behind a keyboard.

The address for service of the court papers has been Nanaimo, and the
author of 12 page long kook screeds to my lawyer from the stalking kook
has also originated from a Nanaimo address.

> You live in
> Utah. LAMERS. Your freindship is imaginary.

Yup. As imaginary as the kook's locale being in Surrey.

> On 12 Jul 2005 09:46:10 -0700, "Barbara Schwarz"
> <***@myway.com> wrote:

... just more clam spam.
a***@gmail.com
2005-07-12 20:49:22 UTC
Permalink
Barbara Schwarz wrote:
> ***@gmail.com wrote:
> > Barbara Schwarz,
>
> ***@gmail.com is Robert Griffin
<snip>


Cease and Desist, Barbara Schwarz.
n***@myway.com
2005-07-13 00:51:44 UTC
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***@gmail.com wrote:
> Barbara Schwarz wrote:
> > ***@gmail.com wrote:
> > > Barbara Schwarz,
> >
> > ***@gmail.com is Robert Griffin
> <snip>
>
>
> Cease and Desist, Barbara Schwarz.

Bwahaha! What a wimp you are, Robert.
Viper
2005-07-13 04:39:39 UTC
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Atten: ***@UNISERVE.COM you have someone harrassing UseNet from your
service. her name is Barbara Schwarz.

You can find more about her at this URL.
http://www.ahbl.org/notices/barbschwarz.php

Basicly letting her use your lines to harrass UseNet is going to get your IP
blocks nlacklisted in public and personal blocklists/firewalls.

Path:
nwrdny02.gnilink.net!cycny02.gnilink.net!cycny01.gnilink.net!cyclone1.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!news.glorb.com!postnews.google.com!g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail
From: ***@myway.com
Newsgroups:
alt.suicide.holiday,alt.religion.scientology,alt.christnet.christianlife,van.general,alt.usenet.kooks
Subject: KOOKSUIT Robert Griffin (MAGNUS PYM) now issues yet another "Cease
and Desist" order
Date: 12 Jul 2005 17:51:44 -0700
Organization: http://groups.google.com
Lines: 13
Message-ID: <***@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
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***@gmail.com wrote:
> Barbara Schwarz wrote:
> > ***@gmail.com wrote:
> > > Barbara Schwarz,
> >
> > ***@gmail.com is Robert Griffin
> <snip>
>
>
> Cease and Desist, Barbara Schwarz.

Bwahaha! What a wimp you are, Robert.
n***@myway.com
2005-07-13 04:44:54 UTC
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Viper wrote:
> Atten: ***@UNISERVE.COM you have someone harrassing UseNet from your
> service. her name is Barbara Schwarz.

BWAHAHAHAHA!!! Wot an idiot you are, Stillwell! Thanks for the belly
laugh :D
Viper
2005-07-13 05:16:45 UTC
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***@myway.com wrote:
> Viper wrote:
>> Atten: ***@UNISERVE.COM you have someone harrassing UseNet from
>> your service. her name is Barbara Schwarz.
>
> BWAHAHAHAHA!!! Wot an idiot you are, Stillwell! Thanks for the belly
> laugh :D

Either way you are breaking the terms of ***@UNISERVE.COM :)
http://www.uniserve.com/terms/#prohibited

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Kevin
2005-07-13 11:10:41 UTC
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In article <***@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
***@myway.com wrote:

> Viper wrote:
> > Atten: ***@UNISERVE.COM you have someone harrassing UseNet from your
> > service. her name is Barbara Schwarz.
>
> BWAHAHAHAHA!!! Wot an idiot you are, Stillwell! Thanks for the belly
> laugh :D


Idiot? He didn't say anything idiotic.

BTW. you are next. :)

--

Beware of Barbara Schwarz She is a known Usenet WACKO

http://www.ahbl.org/notices/barbschwarz.php
Barbara Schwarz
2005-07-13 21:43:26 UTC
Permalink
***@myway.com wrote:
> ***@gmail.com wrote:
> > Barbara Schwarz wrote:
> > > ***@gmail.com wrote:
> > > > Barbara Schwarz,
> > >
> > > ***@gmail.com is Robert Griffin
> > <snip>
> >
> >
> > Cease and Desist, Barbara Schwarz.

Why? Usenet is for everybody, not just for you, Robert Griffin.
>
> Bwahaha! What a wimp you are, Robert.

Yes, Robert Griffin is a wimp. He is a man above the laws. He filed 26
false complaints about me to my library, and he libeled in these also
Patrick Michael Sullivan who has nothing to do with my library.

Patrick, feel free to use the two affidavits that I sent to you in your
legal matters against Griffin.

We, Griffin's victims also should consider to sue him in a class action
law suit.

Griffin accept just one kind of free speech and that is his own. He
can't accept that other people have a right for free speech too and he
tries to get them from the Internet by either filing false complaints
or filing a kook law suit to harass and intimidate.

Barbara Schwarz
Kevin
2005-07-13 23:02:01 UTC
Permalink
In article <***@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Barbara Schwarz" <***@gmail.com> wrote:


> He is a man above the laws. He filed 26
> false complaints about me to my library,

You sure those were false?



--

Kevin
~ vera ~
2005-07-13 23:18:36 UTC
Permalink
Kevin <***@mentalhospital.net> wrote:
> In article <***@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> "Barbara Schwarz" <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>> He is a man above the laws. He filed 26
>> false complaints about me to my library,
>
> You sure those were false?


Don't mention the war!

;-)
Complaint to Vera's pastor Lothar Leese as she does not stop lying and defaming
2005-07-13 23:38:48 UTC
Permalink
~ vera ~ wrote:
> Kevin <***@mentalhospital.net> wrote:
> > In article <***@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> > "Barbara Schwarz" <***@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> He is a man above the laws. He filed 26
> >> false complaints about me to my library,
> >
> > You sure those were false?
>
>
> Don't mention the war!
>
> ;-)

Commandment Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour
means also that you shall not lie on the Internet means nothing to Vera


Six, and alleged babtist from Germany.


Vera lies about, libels, insults and defames people who don't agree
with her as Royal Masters, Reverend Henny Hinn, Reverend Mike Bugal,
Sensual Cloud, Diane, Bradley Gouldson, Louis, Patrick Michael
Sullivan, Doug Wiser, Halonfire S, Barbara Schwarz and others. If you
want to be removed or added to this list of victims, please let me
know. Vera even stalks some of the people on the net and don't mind to
do that also to those who are suicidal and gives a damn if they get
depressed and kill themselves over her vile postings.


The church Vera Six belongs to is here:
http://www.baptisten-remscheid.de/


Vera Six has a Pastor. His name is "Pastor Lothar Leese"
http://www.baptisten-remscheid.de/pastor.htm


It might be a good idea to help Vera to get herself back with God and
email "Pastor Lothar Leese" at ***@aol.com and let him know that
one of his flock has run astray on Usenet and acts like a witch and
from hell.


Reads about Vera's posting history here:


http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?q=&start=0&scoring=d&enc_author=...



http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?hl=en&q=Vera+Six&qt_s=Search


http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/browse_t...



Vera is obsessed with lying about Barbara Schwarz and Patrick Michael
Sullivan an anti-suicide encourager, who came to ASH because he himself



was/is suicidal. I wonder if Vera Six and Robert Griffin who attack and



defame him want him to commit suicide. It looks very much like it.


Vera Six is a Usenet stalker who lie without any conscience and she
spam the newsgroups.
Complain about spam and abuse by Vera Six to ***@FU-Berlin.DE.
Complain about spam and abuse by her side kick "Kevin" to
http://abuse.charter.net/


German Vera Six is a self proclaimed witch, and persecutes
Scientologists in typical German manner. She spams the websites of
following people on the net:


The Xenu site of Andreas Heldal-Lund, a man arrested for having
harassed a Christian church, a man who paints sexual perverted cartoons



about Christianity and who is an associate with terrorist Lars Gule.
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lund1.html
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lund9.html
http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?q=Lars%20Gule&hl=en&lr=&sa=N&tab=wg



The website of Karin Spaink's good friend Stephen Fishman, a notorious
liar and a convicted felon.


http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/fishman2.html


The website of German Tilman Hausherr, who posts pro eugenics (!) and
wants to ruin the tourism of Florida.


http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/_vti_bin/shtml.exe/search.html


Rick Ross a man with an extensive criminal past, including kidnappings


http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/false_exp/rossr1.html


Or the Nazi friendly Arnaldo Lerma who also in an associate of William
White the Militia Utopian Anarchist Party.


http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lerma1.html


Vera Six does not make research about the people whose websites she
promotes and spams, as long as they hate Scientology, as long
everything is justified. She is typically German and the hatred that
she feels for Scientologists is the same hatred that started the Third
Reich and later the extamination of Jews.


Be alert of these posters and when you see any violation of laws and
security complain to the ISP of that poster, to Google, to Newsreader
Lightlink, to cancel the account of that person and the appropriate
police department, the FBI cyber crime unit, Interpol, and Homeland
security to file charges against these posters.
Thank you.
r***@rickross.com
2005-07-14 12:14:36 UTC
Permalink
To whom it may concern:

The long rambling rant of one post includes a reference to "Relgious
Freedom Wactch," which is a website run by Scientology.

I have responded to their attack against me and this response has been
up publicly through the Internet since 1998.

See http://www.rickross.com/reference/scientology/Scien47.html

Rick A. Ross
www.rickross.com
Tremendous Wang
2005-07-14 21:53:42 UTC
Permalink
Hi Rick. It's nice to see you here! I've been following your activities
since before you lost the CAW. I think your own extremist witch-hunt against
Scientology resulted in the Cult Awareness Network falling into their hands and
it continues to be a major tool they use to abuse people. You screwed up,
Rick, and your 'deprogramming' methods are bogus. Of all the people the
scientologists have attacked, you're probably the only one who deserved it.


In article <***@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
***@rickross.com says...
>
>To whom it may concern:
>
>The long rambling rant of one post includes a reference to "Relgious
>Freedom Wactch," which is a website run by Scientology.
>
>I have responded to their attack against me and this response has been
>up publicly through the Internet since 1998.
>
>See http://www.rickross.com/reference/scientology/Scien47.html
>
>Rick A. Ross
>www.rickross.com
>
Complaint to Vera's pastor Lothar Leese as she does not stop lying and defaming
2005-07-13 23:38:56 UTC
Permalink
~ vera ~ wrote:
> Kevin <***@mentalhospital.net> wrote:
> > In article <***@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> > "Barbara Schwarz" <***@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> He is a man above the laws. He filed 26
> >> false complaints about me to my library,
> >
> > You sure those were false?
>
>
> Don't mention the war!
>
> ;-)

Commandment Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour
means also that you shall not lie on the Internet means nothing to Vera


Six, and alleged babtist from Germany.


Vera lies about, libels, insults and defames people who don't agree
with her as Royal Masters, Reverend Henny Hinn, Reverend Mike Bugal,
Sensual Cloud, Diane, Bradley Gouldson, Louis, Patrick Michael
Sullivan, Doug Wiser, Halonfire S, Barbara Schwarz and others. If you
want to be removed or added to this list of victims, please let me
know. Vera even stalks some of the people on the net and don't mind to
do that also to those who are suicidal and gives a damn if they get
depressed and kill themselves over her vile postings.


The church Vera Six belongs to is here:
http://www.baptisten-remscheid.de/


Vera Six has a Pastor. His name is "Pastor Lothar Leese"
http://www.baptisten-remscheid.de/pastor.htm


It might be a good idea to help Vera to get herself back with God and
email "Pastor Lothar Leese" at ***@aol.com and let him know that
one of his flock has run astray on Usenet and acts like a witch and
from hell.


Reads about Vera's posting history here:


http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?q=&start=0&scoring=d&enc_author=...



http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?hl=en&q=Vera+Six&qt_s=Search


http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/browse_t...



Vera is obsessed with lying about Barbara Schwarz and Patrick Michael
Sullivan an anti-suicide encourager, who came to ASH because he himself



was/is suicidal. I wonder if Vera Six and Robert Griffin who attack and



defame him want him to commit suicide. It looks very much like it.


Vera Six is a Usenet stalker who lie without any conscience and she
spam the newsgroups.
Complain about spam and abuse by Vera Six to ***@FU-Berlin.DE.
Complain about spam and abuse by her side kick "Kevin" to
http://abuse.charter.net/


German Vera Six is a self proclaimed witch, and persecutes
Scientologists in typical German manner. She spams the websites of
following people on the net:


The Xenu site of Andreas Heldal-Lund, a man arrested for having
harassed a Christian church, a man who paints sexual perverted cartoons



about Christianity and who is an associate with terrorist Lars Gule.
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lund1.html
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lund9.html
http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?q=Lars%20Gule&hl=en&lr=&sa=N&tab=wg



The website of Karin Spaink's good friend Stephen Fishman, a notorious
liar and a convicted felon.


http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/fishman2.html


The website of German Tilman Hausherr, who posts pro eugenics (!) and
wants to ruin the tourism of Florida.


http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/_vti_bin/shtml.exe/search.html


Rick Ross a man with an extensive criminal past, including kidnappings


http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/false_exp/rossr1.html


Or the Nazi friendly Arnaldo Lerma who also in an associate of William
White the Militia Utopian Anarchist Party.


http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lerma1.html


Vera Six does not make research about the people whose websites she
promotes and spams, as long as they hate Scientology, as long
everything is justified. She is typically German and the hatred that
she feels for Scientologists is the same hatred that started the Third
Reich and later the extamination of Jews.


Be alert of these posters and when you see any violation of laws and
security complain to the ISP of that poster, to Google, to Newsreader
Lightlink, to cancel the account of that person and the appropriate
police department, the FBI cyber crime unit, Interpol, and Homeland
security to file charges against these posters.
Thank you.
~ vera ~
2005-07-13 23:59:51 UTC
Permalink
Complaint to Vera's pastor Lothar Leese as she does not stop lying and
defaming <robjohnson-***@myway.com> wrote:
> ~ vera ~ wrote:
>> Kevin <***@mentalhospital.net> wrote:
>>> In article <***@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
>>> "Barbara Schwarz" <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> He is a man above the laws. He filed 26
>>>> false complaints about me to my library,
>>>
>>> You sure those were false?
>>
>>
>> Don't mention the war!
>>
>> ;-)
>
> Commandment Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour
> means also that you shall not lie on the Internet means nothing to
> Vera
>
>
> Six, and alleged babtist from Germany.

See where you get?

She "knows" who I am, but she does not even know how to spell that. She
does not know it is not derived from "Bab"ara.

Yes, I am a BaPtist.

We BaPtists only baPtise people when they can decide about this
themselves. We are baPtised with full immersion, like this was done with
the first Christians. We try to live according to Christian standards -
just to please the Lord, and to thank the Lord. The Bible is our base -
as it is explained to us by the Holy Spirit.

I love God.

I love Jesus Christ.

Hey, that is what BaPtists do.

I thank you, BaBara, that you give me one chance after the other to
speak out for God.

Be blessed,
and I will pray for you.

~ vera ~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~ http://www.acc-growing-deeper.de ~
~ http://www.acc-growing-deeper.de/Israel.htm ~
~ http://www.acc-growing-deeper.de/brokenhearts.htm ~
~ http://www.e-sword.net ~
("Don't mention the war!")
Greg Carr
2005-07-14 08:12:20 UTC
Permalink
I won't believe any of this until Tom Cruise and Kirstie Alley comment
about it on E!

If ppl steal cars they should commit suicide the ICBC rates are high
enough just because of accidents.


On 13 Jul 2005 16:38:56 -0700, "Complaint to Vera's pastor Lothar
Leese as she does not stop lying and defaming"
<robjohnson-***@myway.com> wrote:

>
>
>~ vera ~ wrote:
>> Kevin <***@mentalhospital.net> wrote:
>> > In article <***@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
>> > "Barbara Schwarz" <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >> He is a man above the laws. He filed 26
>> >> false complaints about me to my library,
>> >
>> > You sure those were false?
>>
>>
>> Don't mention the war!
>>
>> ;-)
>
>Commandment Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour
>means also that you shall not lie on the Internet means nothing to Vera
>
>
>Six, and alleged babtist from Germany.
>
>
>Vera lies about, libels, insults and defames people who don't agree
>with her as Royal Masters, Reverend Henny Hinn, Reverend Mike Bugal,
>Sensual Cloud, Diane, Bradley Gouldson, Louis, Patrick Michael
>Sullivan, Doug Wiser, Halonfire S, Barbara Schwarz and others. If you
>want to be removed or added to this list of victims, please let me
>know. Vera even stalks some of the people on the net and don't mind to
>do that also to those who are suicidal and gives a damn if they get
>depressed and kill themselves over her vile postings.
>
>
>The church Vera Six belongs to is here:
>http://www.baptisten-remscheid.de/
>
>
>Vera Six has a Pastor. His name is "Pastor Lothar Leese"
>http://www.baptisten-remscheid.de/pastor.htm
>
>
>It might be a good idea to help Vera to get herself back with God and
>email "Pastor Lothar Leese" at ***@aol.com and let him know that
>one of his flock has run astray on Usenet and acts like a witch and
>from hell.
>
>
>Reads about Vera's posting history here:
>
>
>http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?q=&start=0&scoring=d&enc_author=...
>
>
>
>http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?hl=en&q=Vera+Six&qt_s=Search
>
>
>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/browse_t...
>
>
>
>Vera is obsessed with lying about Barbara Schwarz and Patrick Michael
>Sullivan an anti-suicide encourager, who came to ASH because he himself
>
>
>
>was/is suicidal. I wonder if Vera Six and Robert Griffin who attack and
>
>
>
>defame him want him to commit suicide. It looks very much like it.
>
>
>Vera Six is a Usenet stalker who lie without any conscience and she
>spam the newsgroups.
>Complain about spam and abuse by Vera Six to ***@FU-Berlin.DE.
>Complain about spam and abuse by her side kick "Kevin" to
>http://abuse.charter.net/
>
>
>German Vera Six is a self proclaimed witch, and persecutes
>Scientologists in typical German manner. She spams the websites of
>following people on the net:
>
>
>The Xenu site of Andreas Heldal-Lund, a man arrested for having
>harassed a Christian church, a man who paints sexual perverted cartoons
>
>
>
>about Christianity and who is an associate with terrorist Lars Gule.
>http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lund1.html
>http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lund9.html
>http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?q=Lars%20Gule&hl=en&lr=&sa=N&tab=wg
>
>
>
>The website of Karin Spaink's good friend Stephen Fishman, a notorious
>liar and a convicted felon.
>
>
>http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/fishman2.html
>
>
>The website of German Tilman Hausherr, who posts pro eugenics (!) and
>wants to ruin the tourism of Florida.
>
>
>http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/_vti_bin/shtml.exe/search.html
>
>
>Rick Ross a man with an extensive criminal past, including kidnappings
>
>
>http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/false_exp/rossr1.html
>
>
>Or the Nazi friendly Arnaldo Lerma who also in an associate of William
>White the Militia Utopian Anarchist Party.
>
>
>http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lerma1.html
>
>
>Vera Six does not make research about the people whose websites she
>promotes and spams, as long as they hate Scientology, as long
>everything is justified. She is typically German and the hatred that
>she feels for Scientologists is the same hatred that started the Third
>Reich and later the extamination of Jews.
>
>
>Be alert of these posters and when you see any violation of laws and
>security complain to the ISP of that poster, to Google, to Newsreader
>Lightlink, to cancel the account of that person and the appropriate
>police department, the FBI cyber crime unit, Interpol, and Homeland
>security to file charges against these posters.
>Thank you.
Tremendous Wang
2005-07-14 08:38:41 UTC
Permalink
In article <***@4ax.com>, ***@shaw.ca
says...
>
>I won't believe any of this until Tom Cruise and Kirstie Alley comment
>about it on E!
>
>If ppl steal cars they should commit suicide the ICBC rates are high
>enough just because of accidents.

I think they're trying to commit suicide, did you see the tape on the news of
the guy screaming 'ONCOMING!!' going 140km/h tweakin on meth????????


>
>
>On 13 Jul 2005 16:38:56 -0700, "Complaint to Vera's pastor Lothar
>Leese as she does not stop lying and defaming"
><robjohnson-***@myway.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>~ vera ~ wrote:
>>> Kevin <***@mentalhospital.net> wrote:
>>> > In article <***@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
>>> > "Barbara Schwarz" <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> He is a man above the laws. He filed 26
>>> >> false complaints about me to my library,
>>> >
>>> > You sure those were false?
>>>
>>>
>>> Don't mention the war!
>>>
>>> ;-)
>>
>>Commandment Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour
>>means also that you shall not lie on the Internet means nothing to Vera
>>
>>
>>Six, and alleged babtist from Germany.
>>
>>
>>Vera lies about, libels, insults and defames people who don't agree
>>with her as Royal Masters, Reverend Henny Hinn, Reverend Mike Bugal,
>>Sensual Cloud, Diane, Bradley Gouldson, Louis, Patrick Michael
>>Sullivan, Doug Wiser, Halonfire S, Barbara Schwarz and others. If you
>>want to be removed or added to this list of victims, please let me
>>know. Vera even stalks some of the people on the net and don't mind to
>>do that also to those who are suicidal and gives a damn if they get
>>depressed and kill themselves over her vile postings.
>>
>>
>>The church Vera Six belongs to is here:
>>http://www.baptisten-remscheid.de/
>>
>>
>>Vera Six has a Pastor. His name is "Pastor Lothar Leese"
>>http://www.baptisten-remscheid.de/pastor.htm
>>
>>
>>It might be a good idea to help Vera to get herself back with God and
>>email "Pastor Lothar Leese" at ***@aol.com and let him know that
>>one of his flock has run astray on Usenet and acts like a witch and
>>from hell.
>>
>>
>>Reads about Vera's posting history here:
>>
>>
>>http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?q=&start=0&scoring=d&enc_author=...
>>
>>
>>
>>http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?hl=en&q=Vera+Six&qt_s=Search
>>
>>
>>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/browse_t...
>>
>>
>>
>>Vera is obsessed with lying about Barbara Schwarz and Patrick Michael
>>Sullivan an anti-suicide encourager, who came to ASH because he himself
>>
>>
>>
>>was/is suicidal. I wonder if Vera Six and Robert Griffin who attack and
>>
>>
>>
>>defame him want him to commit suicide. It looks very much like it.
>>
>>
>>Vera Six is a Usenet stalker who lie without any conscience and she
>>spam the newsgroups.
>>Complain about spam and abuse by Vera Six to ***@FU-Berlin.DE.
>>Complain about spam and abuse by her side kick "Kevin" to
>>http://abuse.charter.net/
>>
>>
>>German Vera Six is a self proclaimed witch, and persecutes
>>Scientologists in typical German manner. She spams the websites of
>>following people on the net:
>>
>>
>>The Xenu site of Andreas Heldal-Lund, a man arrested for having
>>harassed a Christian church, a man who paints sexual perverted cartoons
>>
>>
>>
>>about Christianity and who is an associate with terrorist Lars Gule.
>>http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lund1.html
>>http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lund9.html
>>http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?q=Lars%20Gule&hl=en&lr=&sa=N&tab=wg
>>
>>
>>
>>The website of Karin Spaink's good friend Stephen Fishman, a notorious
>>liar and a convicted felon.
>>
>>
>>http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/fishman2.html
>>
>>
>>The website of German Tilman Hausherr, who posts pro eugenics (!) and
>>wants to ruin the tourism of Florida.
>>
>>
>>http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/_vti_bin/shtml.exe/search.html
>>
>>
>>Rick Ross a man with an extensive criminal past, including kidnappings
>>
>>
>>http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/false_exp/rossr1.html
>>
>>
>>Or the Nazi friendly Arnaldo Lerma who also in an associate of William
>>White the Militia Utopian Anarchist Party.
>>
>>
>>http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lerma1.html
>>
>>
>>Vera Six does not make research about the people whose websites she
>>promotes and spams, as long as they hate Scientology, as long
>>everything is justified. She is typically German and the hatred that
>>she feels for Scientologists is the same hatred that started the Third
>>Reich and later the extamination of Jews.
>>
>>
>>Be alert of these posters and when you see any violation of laws and
>>security complain to the ISP of that poster, to Google, to Newsreader
>>Lightlink, to cancel the account of that person and the appropriate
>>police department, the FBI cyber crime unit, Interpol, and Homeland
>>security to file charges against these posters.
>>Thank you.
>
Complaint to Vera's pastor Lothar Leese as she does not stop lying and defaming
2005-07-13 23:38:55 UTC
Permalink
~ vera ~ wrote:
> Kevin <***@mentalhospital.net> wrote:
> > In article <***@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> > "Barbara Schwarz" <***@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> He is a man above the laws. He filed 26
> >> false complaints about me to my library,
> >
> > You sure those were false?
>
>
> Don't mention the war!
>
> ;-)

Commandment Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour
means also that you shall not lie on the Internet means nothing to Vera


Six, and alleged babtist from Germany.


Vera lies about, libels, insults and defames people who don't agree
with her as Royal Masters, Reverend Henny Hinn, Reverend Mike Bugal,
Sensual Cloud, Diane, Bradley Gouldson, Louis, Patrick Michael
Sullivan, Doug Wiser, Halonfire S, Barbara Schwarz and others. If you
want to be removed or added to this list of victims, please let me
know. Vera even stalks some of the people on the net and don't mind to
do that also to those who are suicidal and gives a damn if they get
depressed and kill themselves over her vile postings.


The church Vera Six belongs to is here:
http://www.baptisten-remscheid.de/


Vera Six has a Pastor. His name is "Pastor Lothar Leese"
http://www.baptisten-remscheid.de/pastor.htm


It might be a good idea to help Vera to get herself back with God and
email "Pastor Lothar Leese" at ***@aol.com and let him know that
one of his flock has run astray on Usenet and acts like a witch and
from hell.


Reads about Vera's posting history here:


http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?q=&start=0&scoring=d&enc_author=...



http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?hl=en&q=Vera+Six&qt_s=Search


http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/browse_t...



Vera is obsessed with lying about Barbara Schwarz and Patrick Michael
Sullivan an anti-suicide encourager, who came to ASH because he himself



was/is suicidal. I wonder if Vera Six and Robert Griffin who attack and



defame him want him to commit suicide. It looks very much like it.


Vera Six is a Usenet stalker who lie without any conscience and she
spam the newsgroups.
Complain about spam and abuse by Vera Six to ***@FU-Berlin.DE.
Complain about spam and abuse by her side kick "Kevin" to
http://abuse.charter.net/


German Vera Six is a self proclaimed witch, and persecutes
Scientologists in typical German manner. She spams the websites of
following people on the net:


The Xenu site of Andreas Heldal-Lund, a man arrested for having
harassed a Christian church, a man who paints sexual perverted cartoons



about Christianity and who is an associate with terrorist Lars Gule.
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lund1.html
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lund9.html
http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?q=Lars%20Gule&hl=en&lr=&sa=N&tab=wg



The website of Karin Spaink's good friend Stephen Fishman, a notorious
liar and a convicted felon.


http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/fishman2.html


The website of German Tilman Hausherr, who posts pro eugenics (!) and
wants to ruin the tourism of Florida.


http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/_vti_bin/shtml.exe/search.html


Rick Ross a man with an extensive criminal past, including kidnappings


http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/false_exp/rossr1.html


Or the Nazi friendly Arnaldo Lerma who also in an associate of William
White the Militia Utopian Anarchist Party.


http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lerma1.html


Vera Six does not make research about the people whose websites she
promotes and spams, as long as they hate Scientology, as long
everything is justified. She is typically German and the hatred that
she feels for Scientologists is the same hatred that started the Third
Reich and later the extamination of Jews.


Be alert of these posters and when you see any violation of laws and
security complain to the ISP of that poster, to Google, to Newsreader
Lightlink, to cancel the account of that person and the appropriate
police department, the FBI cyber crime unit, Interpol, and Homeland
security to file charges against these posters.
Thank you.
Kevin
2005-07-14 00:04:51 UTC
Permalink
Stop being a k00k ol Rev puberty.
Analytical Publications
2005-07-13 23:18:02 UTC
Permalink
Space Cadet Barbara Schwarz posted:

> Yes, Robert Griffin is a wimp. He is a man above the laws. He filed 26
false complaints about me to my library, and he libeled in these also
Patrick Michael Sullivan who has nothing to do with my library.

Blah...blah...blah....just more annmoying nonsense from the schizo
Schwarz. Speaking of wimps, when are YOU going to get a job and repay
the grocer for the food you stole and were arrested by the SLC Police
and convicted for, Schwarz? You promised to get a job and pay them
back, yet who don't work. Why is that, you lying wimp?

> Patrick, feel free to use the two affidavits that I sent to you in your
legal matters against Griffin.

Yes, Patrick, please use any affidavits provided by Barbara Schwarz.
You'll become the laughing-stock of the court.

> We, Griffin's victims also should consider to sue him in a class action
law suit.

No, you can't Schwarz. Remember, I'm still waiting for the 8 different
lawsuits you promised to file against me. You can't even do that. And
who's going to pay for the attorney's retainer? Certainly, not you.
You're too lazy and mentally disturbed to even hold a job.

> Griffin accept just one kind of free speech and that is his own. He
can't accept that other people have a right for free speech too

Hypocrite. You refuse to accept that critics and so-called
"anti-religious extremists" have the same rights to free speech as you
do.
n***@myway.com
2005-07-13 01:50:16 UTC
Permalink
ROBERT GRIFFIN ***@gmail.com wrote:

> Cease and Desist, Barbara Schwarz.

Shove it up your skirt, Robert Griffin.
Kevin
2005-07-13 03:10:17 UTC
Permalink
In article <***@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>,
***@myway.com AKA "Suzy" wrote:

> Shove it up your skirt, Robert Griffin.


Sound like Suzy needs a tampon

--

Beware of Barbara Schwarz She is a known Usenet WACKO

http://www.ahbl.org/notices/barbschwarz.php
Viper
2005-07-13 04:43:07 UTC
Permalink
Make sure to send abuse reports to ***@UNISERVE.COM when the
NNTP-Posting-Host is 207.200.131.43

I believe UEN.org finally Swiped IPs to the Library. Give them a week to
stop her then start contacting the local papers and TV News in their area so
they can get the word out on what the Library is doing with its funds.
Nothing like explaining to board members why the libraru is getting a bad
rep in the news. Could even make them lose some government funding!


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ROBERT GRIFFIN ***@gmail.com wrote:

> Cease and Desist, Barbara Schwarz.

Shove it up your skirt, Robert Griffin.
Barbara Schwarz
2005-07-13 21:49:00 UTC
Permalink
Viper wrote:
> Make sure to send abuse reports to ***@UNISERV
> NNTP-Posting-Host

Are you drunk or what, John Stilwell aka Viper and Kevin? I don't post
via Uniserve. You are filing false complaints as usually and want other
people to do it and it seems to be your criminal business. People
should complain about YOU.

Barbara Schwarz
Viper
2005-07-14 03:37:05 UTC
Permalink
Barbara Schwarz wrote:
> Viper wrote:
>> Make sure to send abuse reports to ***@UNISERV
>> NNTP-Posting-Host
>
> Are you drunk or what, John Stilwell aka Viper and Kevin? I don't post
> via Uniserve. You are filing false complaints as usually and want
> other people to do it and it seems to be your criminal business.
> People should complain about YOU.
>
> Barbara Schwarz

Its you or your twin. Either way LARTS sent. :)
Kevin
2005-07-14 12:39:41 UTC
Permalink
In article <B5lBe.6556$%***@trndny08>, "Viper" <***@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Barbara Schwarz wrote:
> > Viper wrote:
> >> Make sure to send abuse reports to ***@UNISERV
> >> NNTP-Posting-Host
> >
> > Are you drunk or what, John Stilwell aka Viper and Kevin? I don't post
> > via Uniserve. You are filing false complaints as usually and want
> > other people to do it and it seems to be your criminal business.
> > People should complain about YOU.
> >
> > Barbara Schwarz
>
> Its you or your twin. Either way LARTS sent. :)


Viper you know Barb has been accussing me of being you? :D

I mean I bet you can spell accussing right.

--

Kevin
Barbara Schwarz
2005-07-14 15:21:55 UTC
Permalink
Kevin wrote:
> In article <B5lBe.6556$%***@trndny08>, "Viper" <***@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Barbara Schwarz wrote:
> > > Viper wrote:
> > >> Make sure to send abuse reports to ***@UNISERV
> > >> NNTP-Posting-Host
> > >
> > > Are you drunk or what, John Stilwell aka Viper and Kevin? I don't post
> > > via Uniserve. You are filing false complaints as usually and want
> > > other people to do it and it seems to be your criminal business.
> > > People should complain about YOU.
> > >
> > > Barbara Schwarz
> >
> > Its you or your twin. Either way LARTS sent. :)
>
>
> Viper you know Barb has been accussing me of being you? :D
>
> I mean I bet you can spell accussing right.
>
> --
>
> Kevin


Do you really think that the FBI or the NSA can't trace the "Kevin" and
the "Viper" postings directly to your very own computer, Usenet abuser
John Stilwell?

Barbara Schwarz
Kevin
2005-07-14 17:04:25 UTC
Permalink
In article <***@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Barbara Schwarz" <***@gmail.com> wrote:

> Kevin wrote:
> > In article <B5lBe.6556$%***@trndny08>, "Viper" <***@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Barbara Schwarz wrote:
> > > > Viper wrote:
> > > >> Make sure to send abuse reports to ***@UNISERV
> > > >> NNTP-Posting-Host
> > > >
> > > > Are you drunk or what, John Stilwell aka Viper and Kevin? I don't post
> > > > via Uniserve. You are filing false complaints as usually and want
> > > > other people to do it and it seems to be your criminal business.
> > > > People should complain about YOU.
> > > >
> > > > Barbara Schwarz
> > >
> > > Its you or your twin. Either way LARTS sent. :)
> >
> >
> > Viper you know Barb has been accussing me of being you? :D
> >
> > I mean I bet you can spell accussing right.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Kevin
>
>
> Do you really think that the FBI or the NSA can't trace the "Kevin" and
> the "Viper" postings directly to your very own computer, Usenet abuser
> John Stilwell?
>
> Barbara Schwarz


LOL! see I told you :)

Barb for one, if I really wanted to hide who I was I I could make myself
untraceable. Not because I am some high end l33t hax0r. But because I
have networking skills from my job.

But I am not that paranoid. I only have enough of a proxy to block you
and people like you from getting any information about me.

While I know this makes you mad that you cannot defame me because of
lack of information, that doesn't mean you should knee-jerk and start
accusing me of being someone else that you DO have junk on (Or think you
do)

You do know Viper isn't even a Mac user right? He uses Windows.

You old bat.

--

Kevin
Viper
2005-07-14 18:46:11 UTC
Permalink
Kevin wrote:
> In article <***@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> "Barbara Schwarz" <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Kevin wrote:
>>> In article <B5lBe.6556$%***@trndny08>, "Viper"
>>> <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Barbara Schwarz wrote:
>>>>> Viper wrote:
>>>>>> Make sure to send abuse reports to ***@UNISERV
>>>>>> NNTP-Posting-Host
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you drunk or what, John Stilwell aka Viper and Kevin? I don't
>>>>> post via Uniserve. You are filing false complaints as usually and
>>>>> want other people to do it and it seems to be your criminal
>>>>> business. People should complain about YOU.
>>>>>
>>>>> Barbara Schwarz
>>>>
>>>> Its you or your twin. Either way LARTS sent. :)
>>>
>>>
>>> Viper you know Barb has been accussing me of being you? :D
>>>
>>> I mean I bet you can spell accussing right.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Kevin
>>
>>
>> Do you really think that the FBI or the NSA can't trace the "Kevin"
>> and
>> the "Viper" postings directly to your very own computer, Usenet
>> abuser
>> John Stilwell?
>>
>> Barbara Schwarz
>
>
> LOL! see I told you :)
>
> Barb for one, if I really wanted to hide who I was I I could make
> myself untraceable. Not because I am some high end l33t hax0r. But
> because I
> have networking skills from my job.
>
> But I am not that paranoid. I only have enough of a proxy to block you
> and people like you from getting any information about me.
>
> While I know this makes you mad that you cannot defame me because of
> lack of information, that doesn't mean you should knee-jerk and start
> accusing me of being someone else that you DO have junk on (Or think
> you
> do)
>
> You do know Viper isn't even a Mac user right? He uses Windows.
>
> You old bat.

Yeah I dont even own a MAC. Wish I did some times.
I myself dont hide because I dont give a damn. If I ever see someone
following me I will walk right up to them and it will be over with. That is
if I get a chance... some really evil people live around me, the person
following me leaves the car to go into a store for food they may come out to
no car. LOL
Kevin
2005-07-14 18:50:26 UTC
Permalink
In article <TpyBe.7183$%***@trndny08>, "Viper" <***@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Kevin wrote:
> > In article <***@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> > "Barbara Schwarz" <***@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Kevin wrote:
> >>> In article <B5lBe.6556$%***@trndny08>, "Viper"
> >>> <***@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Barbara Schwarz wrote:
> >>>>> Viper wrote:
> >>>>>> Make sure to send abuse reports to ***@UNISERV
> >>>>>> NNTP-Posting-Host
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Are you drunk or what, John Stilwell aka Viper and Kevin? I don't
> >>>>> post via Uniserve. You are filing false complaints as usually and
> >>>>> want other people to do it and it seems to be your criminal
> >>>>> business. People should complain about YOU.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Barbara Schwarz
> >>>>
> >>>> Its you or your twin. Either way LARTS sent. :)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Viper you know Barb has been accussing me of being you? :D
> >>>
> >>> I mean I bet you can spell accussing right.
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> Kevin
> >>
> >>
> >> Do you really think that the FBI or the NSA can't trace the "Kevin"
> >> and
> >> the "Viper" postings directly to your very own computer, Usenet
> >> abuser
> >> John Stilwell?
> >>
> >> Barbara Schwarz
> >
> >
> > LOL! see I told you :)
> >
> > Barb for one, if I really wanted to hide who I was I I could make
> > myself untraceable. Not because I am some high end l33t hax0r. But
> > because I
> > have networking skills from my job.
> >
> > But I am not that paranoid. I only have enough of a proxy to block you
> > and people like you from getting any information about me.
> >
> > While I know this makes you mad that you cannot defame me because of
> > lack of information, that doesn't mean you should knee-jerk and start
> > accusing me of being someone else that you DO have junk on (Or think
> > you
> > do)
> >
> > You do know Viper isn't even a Mac user right? He uses Windows.
> >
> > You old bat.
>
> Yeah I dont even own a MAC. Wish I did some times.
> I myself dont hide because I dont give a damn. If I ever see someone
> following me I will walk right up to them and it will be over with. That is
> if I get a chance... some really evil people live around me, the person
> following me leaves the car to go into a store for food they may come out to
> no car. LOL


Oh great now Vip, she is going to start calling you an admitted car
theif. :D

--

Kevin
a***@gmail.com
2005-07-14 19:55:33 UTC
Permalink
Kevin wrote:


> Oh great now Vip, she is going to start calling you an admitted car
> theif. :D

But funny how her "baby bro" is the one that admitted doing time for
that. :D
Kevin
2005-07-15 02:06:19 UTC
Permalink
In article <***@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
***@gmail.com wrote:

> Kevin wrote:
>
>
> > Oh great now Vip, she is going to start calling you an admitted car
> > theif. :D
>
> But funny how her "baby bro" is the one that admitted doing time for
> that. :D


That is besides the point.

--

Kevin
Viper
2005-07-14 23:48:42 UTC
Permalink
Kevin wrote:
> Oh great now Vip, she is going to start calling you an admitted car
> theif. :D

I have never stole anything lol
The people that would steal the car are the people on the street....

Some have jobs that Barb could do... Walk by one and youll be asked for some
change.... She could do that and pay back the government and the store she
stole from.
~ vera ~
2005-07-15 00:37:28 UTC
Permalink
Viper <***@gmail.com> wrote:
> Kevin wrote:
>> Oh great now Vip, she is going to start calling you an admitted car
>> theif. :D
>
> I have never stole anything lol
> The people that would steal the car are the people on the street....

Not if the car is stolen in a garage. ;-)

> Some have jobs that Barb could do... Walk by one and youll be asked
> for some change.... She could do that and pay back the government and
> the store she stole from.

Yes, also the money she owes her library for her abuse.

Maybe she could also invite the other users there for a big barbaracue
for reconciliation.


~ vera ~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~ http://www.acc-growing-deeper.de ~
~ http://www.acc-growing-deeper.de/Israel.htm ~
~ http://www.acc-growing-deeper.de/brokenhearts.htm ~
~ http://www.e-sword.net ~
a***@gmail.com
2005-07-15 01:00:11 UTC
Permalink
~ vera ~ wrote:

> Viper <***@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Kevin wrote:
> >> Oh great now Vip, she is going to start calling you an admitted car
> >> theif. :D
> >
> > I have never stole anything lol
> > The people that would steal the car are the people on the street....
>
> Not if the car is stolen in a garage. ;-)
>
> > Some have jobs that Barb could do... Walk by one and youll be asked
> > for some change.... She could do that and pay back the government and
> > the store she stole from.
>
> Yes, also the money she owes her library for her abuse.
>
> Maybe she could also invite the other users there for a big barbaracue
> for reconciliation.

A big BBQ? That's like a big clambake, right?

http://www.xenu.net/archive/infopack/2.htm

;)


> ~ vera ~
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> ~ http://www.acc-growing-deeper.de ~
> ~ http://www.acc-growing-deeper.de/Israel.htm ~
> ~ http://www.acc-growing-deeper.de/brokenhearts.htm ~
> ~ http://www.e-sword.net ~
~ vera ~
2005-07-15 01:43:54 UTC
Permalink
***@gmail.com wrote:
> ~ vera ~ wrote:
>
>> Viper <***@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Kevin wrote:
>>>> Oh great now Vip, she is going to start calling you an admitted car
>>>> theif. :D
>>>
>>> I have never stole anything lol
>>> The people that would steal the car are the people on the street....
>>
>> Not if the car is stolen in a garage. ;-)
>>
>>> Some have jobs that Barb could do... Walk by one and youll be asked
>>> for some change.... She could do that and pay back the government
>>> and the store she stole from.
>>
>> Yes, also the money she owes her library for her abuse.
>>
>> Maybe she could also invite the other users there for a big
>> barbaracue for reconciliation.
>
> A big BBQ? That's like a big clambake, right?
>
> http://www.xenu.net/archive/infopack/2.htm
>
> ;)

:-D

Exactly!
Protesting the people who make Usenet to Lienet and Abusenet
2005-07-15 16:42:38 UTC
Permalink
***@gmail.com wrote:
>

***@gmail.com is Robert Griffin from Queensland Australia, a man
who has his own stalker entries in this newsgroup.

Commandment Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour
means also that you shall not lie on the Internet means nothing to Vera
Six, and alleged babtist from Germany.


Vera lies about, libels, stalks, insults and defames people who don't
agree with her. Vera even stalks some of the people on the net and
don't mind to do that also to those who are suicidal and gives a damn
if they get depressed and kill themselves over her vile postings.

The church Vera Six belongs to is here:
http://www.baptisten-remscheid.de/

Vera Six has a Pastor. His name is "Pastor Lothar Leese"
http://www.baptisten-remscheid.de/pastor.htm

It might be a good idea to help Vera to get herself back with God and
email "Pastor Lothar Leese" at ***@aol.com and let him know that
one of his flock has run astray on Usenet and acts like a witch and
from hell.

Reads about Vera's posting history here:

http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?q=&start=0&scoring=d&enc_author=VALlfR0AAABCIp3BvmKs2iiO3JMucOUg-Mptd1B-_ljIXghLZdkguQ&hl=en&


http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?hl=en&q=Vera+Six&qt_s=Search

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/browse_thread/thread/e8d3ecd18ca93019/b75516482b678cb7?q=Vera%2Bquestions%2BSix&rnum=2&hl=en#b75516482b678cb7

Vera is obsessed with lying about Barbara Schwarz and Patrick Michael
Sullivan an anti-suicide encourager, who came to ASH because he himself
was/is suicidal. I wonder if Vera Six and Robert Griffin who attack and
defame him want him to commit suicide. It looks very much like it.

Vera Six is a Usenet stalker who lie without any conscience and she
spam the newsgroups.
Complain about spam and abuse by Vera Six to ***@FU-Berlin.DE.
Complain about spam and abuse by her side kick "Kevin" to
http://abuse.charter.net/

German Vera Six is a self proclaimed witch, and persecutes
Scientologists in typical German manner. She spams the websites of
following people on the net:


The Xenu site of Andreas Heldal-Lund, a man arrested for having
harassed a Christian church, a man who paints sexual perverted cartoons
about Christianity and who is an associate with terrorist Lars Gule.
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lund1.html
http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lund9.html
http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?q=Lars%20Gule&hl=en&lr=&sa=N&tab=wg

The website of Karin Spaink's good friend Stephen Fishman, a notorious
liar and a convicted felon.

http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/fishman2.html

The website of German Tilman Hausherr, who posts pro eugenics (!) and
wants to ruin the tourism of Florida.

http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/_vti_bin/shtml.exe/search.html

Rick Ross a man with an extensive criminal past, including kidnappings

http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/false_exp/rossr1.html

Or the Nazi friendly Arnaldo Lerma who also in an associate of William
White the Militia Utopian Anarchist Party.

http://www.religiousfreedomwatch.org/extremists/lerma1.html

Vera Six does not make research about the people whose websites she
promotes and spams, as long as they hate Scientology, as long
everything is justified. She is typically German and the hatred that
she feels for Scientologists is the same hatred that started the Third
Reich and later the extamination of Jews.


Be alert of these posters and when you see any violation of laws and
security complain to the ISP of that poster, to Google, to Newsreader
Lightlink, to cancel the account of that person and the appropriate
police department, the FBI cyber crime unit, Interpol, and Homeland
security to file charges against these posters.
Thank you.








~
Kevin
2005-07-15 02:09:55 UTC
Permalink
In article <uRCBe.3699$***@trndny04>, "Viper" <***@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Kevin wrote:
> > Oh great now Vip, she is going to start calling you an admitted car
> > theif. :D
>
> I have never stole anything lol
> The people that would steal the car are the people on the street....
>
> Some have jobs that Barb could do... Walk by one and youll be asked for some
> change.... She could do that and pay back the government and the store she
> stole from.


She stole from a store?

Do tell.

--

Kevin
Viper
2005-07-15 02:27:57 UTC
Permalink
Kevin wrote:
> In article <uRCBe.3699$***@trndny04>, "Viper" <***@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Kevin wrote:
>>> Oh great now Vip, she is going to start calling you an admitted car
>>> theif. :D
>>
>> I have never stole anything lol
>> The people that would steal the car are the people on the street....
>>
>> Some have jobs that Barb could do... Walk by one and youll be asked
>> for some change.... She could do that and pay back the government
>> and the store she stole from.
>
>
> She stole from a store?
>
> Do tell.

Yeah do a Google Groups search. She got caught shoplifting.
Kevin
2005-07-15 02:50:19 UTC
Permalink
In article <NaFBe.9082$***@trndny09>, "Viper" <***@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Kevin wrote:
> > In article <uRCBe.3699$***@trndny04>, "Viper" <***@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Kevin wrote:
> >>> Oh great now Vip, she is going to start calling you an admitted car
> >>> theif. :D
> >>
> >> I have never stole anything lol
> >> The people that would steal the car are the people on the street....
> >>
> >> Some have jobs that Barb could do... Walk by one and youll be asked
> >> for some change.... She could do that and pay back the government
> >> and the store she stole from.
> >
> >
> > She stole from a store?
> >
> > Do tell.
>
> Yeah do a Google Groups search. She got caught shoplifting.


AAAAAAAAAHhahahahah

Man, babs...

--

Kevin
a***@gmail.com
2005-07-15 10:31:48 UTC
Permalink
Kevin wrote:
> In article <NaFBe.9082$***@trndny09>, "Viper" <***@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Kevin wrote:
> > > In article <uRCBe.3699$***@trndny04>, "Viper" <***@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Kevin wrote:
> > >>> Oh great now Vip, she is going to start calling you an admitted car
> > >>> theif. :D
> > >>
> > >> I have never stole anything lol
> > >> The people that would steal the car are the people on the street....
> > >>
> > >> Some have jobs that Barb could do... Walk by one and youll be asked
> > >> for some change.... She could do that and pay back the government
> > >> and the store she stole from.
> > >
> > >
> > > She stole from a store?
> > >
> > > Do tell.
> >
> > Yeah do a Google Groups search. She got caught shoplifting.
>
>
> AAAAAAAAAHhahahahah
>
> Man, babs...

Article is here:

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/msg/197fd1f01ae1e65d?hl=en&
Kevin
2005-07-15 10:57:31 UTC
Permalink
In article <***@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
***@gmail.com wrote:

> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/msg/197fd1f01ae1e
> 65d?hl=en&


Eh, to be fair, if her larceny was stealing cheese and some oranges
because she was starving, if that was true, I can't really make fun of
her for it.

Do I think there was a hostile conspiracy against her? No. She is
bonkers .

But I can't make fun of a person for being hungry.

--

Kevin
Tremendous Wang
2005-07-15 11:00:46 UTC
Permalink
In article <barbaraschwarz-***@news.charter.net>,
***@mentalhospital.net says...
>
>In article <***@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> ***@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/msg/197fd1f01ae1e
>> 65d?hl=en&
>
>
>Eh, to be fair, if her larceny was stealing cheese and some oranges
>because she was starving, if that was true, I can't really make fun of
>her for it.
>
>Do I think there was a hostile conspiracy against her? No. She is
>bonkers .
>
>But I can't make fun of a person for being hungry.
>

Even fat people?? I'd make fun of a fat person for being hungry. Not for
being fat, but for being hungry while being fat.
Kevin
2005-07-15 11:12:32 UTC
Permalink
In article <yHMBe.151055$***@clgrps13>,
***@wang.com (Tremendous Wang) wrote:


> Even fat people?? I'd make fun of a fat person for being hungry. Not for
> being fat, but for being hungry while being fat.

Even fat people get hungry. I think it's a fact or something.

Just how fat could she be?


--

Kevin
Tremendous Wang
2005-07-15 11:31:10 UTC
Permalink
In article <barbaraschwarz-***@news.charter.net>,
***@mentalhospital.net says...
>
>In article <yHMBe.151055$***@clgrps13>,
> ***@wang.com (Tremendous Wang) wrote:
>
>
>> Even fat people?? I'd make fun of a fat person for being hungry. Not for
>> being fat, but for being hungry while being fat.
>
>Even fat people get hungry.

They get really hungry, so hungry it's comical!! Fatty Arbuckle knew that.
Protesting the people who make Usenet to Lienet and Abusenet
2005-07-15 17:01:32 UTC
Permalink
http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/browse_frm/thread/bb21993a71acf65/34a513d6c6ac3f86?q=Kevin%2Bfat%2BJohnny&rnum=1&hl=en#34a513d6c6ac3f86


Is that you, Kevin, Viper, John Stilwell?
Viper
2005-07-15 17:26:31 UTC
Permalink
Protesting the people who make Usenet to Lienet and Abusenet wrote:
> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/browse_frm/thread/bb21993a71acf65/34a513d6c6ac3f86?q=Kevin%2Bfat%2BJohnny&rnum=1&hl=en#34a513d6c6ac3f86
>
>
> Is that you, Kevin, Viper, John Stilwell?

Get it into your nutty head. We are not the same person. Gosh Babs are you
really that insane? I will be calling the Germans to tell them where you
are. Watch out for the black vans when walking outside. :)
Viper
2005-07-15 17:24:44 UTC
Permalink
Kevin wrote:
> In article <***@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> ***@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/msg/197fd1f01ae1e
>> 65d?hl=en&
>
>
> Eh, to be fair, if her larceny was stealing cheese and some oranges
> because she was starving, if that was true, I can't really make fun of
> her for it.
>
> Do I think there was a hostile conspiracy against her? No. She is
> bonkers .
>
> But I can't make fun of a person for being hungry.

Why steal from someone when theres many places that will give you food if
you ask?
Greg Carr
2005-07-15 19:16:20 UTC
Permalink
On Fri, 15 Jul 2005 06:57:31 -0400, Kevin
<***@mentalhospital.net> wrote:

>In article <***@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> ***@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/alt.religion.scientology/msg/197fd1f01ae1e
>> 65d?hl=en&
>
>
>Eh, to be fair, if her larceny was stealing cheese and some oranges
>because she was starving, if that was true, I can't really make fun of
>her for it.
>
>Do I think there was a hostile conspiracy against her? No. She is
>bonkers .
>
>But I can't make fun of a person for being hungry.

I saw a thief get tackled by Save-On Foods employees last night on
King George Hwy. One of them was an undercover employee and the big
longhair tripped and was caught. Good. I was at Safeway last year and
a woman had her groceries stolen from her in the parking lot.
Troy
2005-07-14 00:25:02 UTC
Permalink
If you IDIOTS spent as much time on your pathetic lives as you do fighting
like school girls you would have Bill Gate's fortune doubled......Get a life
you losers.



Barbara Schwarz <***@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:***@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
>
> ***@gmail.com wrote:
> > EVER
>
> Everybody can file a harassing law suit against a person, Robert
> Griffin, but winning is the difficult part. I read that complaint that
> you filed against Patrick and came to the conclusion that it has no
> merit. But what I noticed is that you admitted in the case to be Magnus
> Pym, which means that everything you posted and did with that ID can be
> used against you in a court of law.
>
> In other words, Bobby, if you should against all odds win that case,
> lots of people have a precedent to win against you. You forgot to
> consider that, didn't you?
>
> Barbara Schwarz
>
Greg Carr
2005-07-12 19:37:38 UTC
Permalink
Why don't you just scan and post every single court record to do with
Patrick Micheal Sullivan? It is public info and you should be able to
find it at the courthouse downtown or since your involved with lawyers
supposedly have them explain how to do it.

On 12 Jul 2005 08:45:49 -0700, ***@gmail.com wrote:

>EVER A MORON in 2005, PATRICK MICHAEL SULLIVAN, self-confessed car and
>boat thief, being sued for cyber stalking in the Supreme Court of
>British Columbia in Case S42823, whined and froths more than a Guinness
>poured by a trainee barmaid while doing it's kooky meltdown when caught
>lying, *again*,
>
>
>> Excuse me, you FAT FUCK.
>
>
>"Fat Fuck"? Isn't that what Big Bad JT calls you? Isn't he the guy you
>stalked for years, outed to the Holocaust revisionalists, and then
>wanted to fist fight... and *you* were then a no-show, PATRICK MICHAEL
>SULLIVAN?
>
>Isn't "fat fuck" a play on "Fat Pat"?
>
>Is "Fat Pat" one of your 100+ aliases, PATRICK MICHAEL SULLIVAN?
>
>Like ***@aol.com ?
>
>AOL? Whooops!
>http://groups-beta.google.com/group/van.general/msg/eb96107b4acffb63?hl=en&
>
>Was that you posting that message, PATRICK MICHAEL SULLIVAN? Does your
>family practice law? Or does someone *with a name like yours practice
>law* and a Nanaimo cyber stalker wanted to mislead people like only a
>car and boat thief would?
>
>I will never excuse you, or anything you did to me, and to the others
>you have smeared, stalked, threatened, and libeled.
>
>
>
>
>> But YOU posted my NAME, TELEPHONE NUMBER
>
>Uh oh... when PATRICK MICHAEL SULLIVAN speaks, it reeks of Excrement Of
>Bovine!
>
>Patrick Michael Sullivan on 17 Nov 2003 03:04:21 GMT in
><***@posting.google.com> :
>
>"My number is up on my site. Reverse look up the number and tell me if
>I am a fake. With the reverse look up you will get my home address, as
>well. I have nothing to hide, unlike you, Pym."
>
>
>
>You weren't even replying to me then, you stupid lying scumbag. And you
>said you had nothing to hide, scumbag. So what are you whining about,
>you flip-flopping flim-flam fruitcake?
>
>You outed *yourself*.
>
>
>
>
>> *YOU* pin pointed my location.
>
>Patrick Michael Sullivan did it to itself. See above.
>
>
>
>
>
>> But NO ONE DID THAT TO YOU, did they?
>
>Not from your lack of trying, scumbag!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> You specifically identified my location and posted info about me in a
>> defamatory fashion in an attempt to humiliate me and ruin my life.
>
>Whooops! Evem more Excrement Of Bovine from PATRICK MICHAEL SULLIVAN!
>
>PATRICK MICHAEL SULLIVAN on 3 Nov 2003 00:39:20 GMT, in
>Message-ID: <***@mb-m15.aol.com>
>
>"I could not give one-shit about what others think of me, or say of me.
> If I did, I would have been dead years ago. It's all water under the
>bridge, ya know? My life is a "cup of salt water taken from the ocean"
>- meaning, if that cup was taken, no one would know it was here and
>gone."
>
>and
>
>"It's all dots and digits on my monitor and it has no bearing in "real
>life"."
>
>
>
>PATRICK MICHAEL SULLIVAN on 19 Nov 2003 01:02:30 GMT, in Message-ID:
><***@mb-m15.aol.com>
>
>"And as far as being a convicted felon goes, I couldn't care less what
>other people think or say of me."
>
>
>
>PATRICK MICHAEL SULLIVAN on 19 Nov 2003 01:55:15 GMT, in Message-ID:
><***@mb-m15.aol.com> :
>
>"I said I don't care what other people think of me. I know who I am
>and that's all that matters to me in this world. What others say or
>think of me means nothing to me. Why should it? If I were to live
>like that, I may as well be dead."
>
>
>Well, PATRICK MICHAEL SULLIVAN, looks like your big kook spew is kinda
>negated by all that above, doesn't it?
>
>Bwhahahahahaha!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> No one outed you, ROBERT GRIFFIN.
>
>You did, you stupid liar in denial.
>
>Stop lying about it.
>
>Nah, on second thought: keep lying, kook; get yourself into more
>trouble -- your usual moronic modus operandi.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> BTW! If you ever have the guts to show up here
>
>Is it true you are a gutless coward afraid of *a piece of paper*
>PATRICK MICHAEL SULLIVAN?
>
>Knock! Knock!
>
>Bwhahahaha!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> See me face to face. Stand up like a man. Quit hiding. Show some back bone.
>
>Why don't you answer the front door, PATRICK MICHAEL SULLIVAN?
>
>Surely you're not afraid of a piece of paper, are you, you <sarc> big
>brave man? </sarc>
>
>
>
>
>
>Then comes the King Pong PATRICK MICHAEL SULLIVAN Fist Fight Challenge:
>
>> To hide any longer only confirms
>> in my mind and the minds of others that you are truly a PHYSICAL
>> COWARD.
>
>Viper, JT from van.general, and Red Corsair: are you reading this from
>PATRICK MICHAEL SULLIVAN?
>
>Hemlock and Broadway all over again?
>
>Has someone been trying to give you something for the last week, "Ping
>Mail Inbox"?
>
>Ping Mail Inbox!
>Ping Mail Inbox!
>Ping Mail Inbox!
>
>Bling! You have email, kook!
>
>
>
>> See you in court, if you have the guts, short ass!
>
>Says a kook afraid of a piece of paper?
>
>BWhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>From: ***@myway.com
>Newsgroups:
>alt.suicide.holiday,alt.religion.christianity,alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.bible
>Subject: ROBERT GRIFFIN wants to see "outing". Well here ya go, ROBERT
>GRIFFIN AKA MAGNUS PYM!
>Date: 11 Jul 2005 07:14:47 -0700
>Organization: http://groups.google.com
>Lines: 151
>Message-ID: <***@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
>References: <***@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
> <***@individual.net>
> <***@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
> <***@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
>NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.200.131.67
>Mime-Version: 1.0
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>X-Trace: posting.google.com 1121091293 14174 127.0.0.1 (11 Jul 2005
>14:14:53 GMT)
>X-Complaints-To: groups-***@google.com
>NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 14:14:53 +0000 (UTC)
>User-Agent: G2/0.2
>Complaints-To: groups-***@google.com
>Injection-Info: g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com;
>posting-host=207.200.131.67;
> posting-account=0ykVYg0AAABK3IiQMFFbNxkX1ARrWSdH
>
>Excuse me, you FAT FUCK. But YOU posted my NAME, TELEPHONE NUMBER, HOME
>ADDRESS and other stuff about me and others on ASH for the world to see
>and then you smeared me and other with lies and libel, you FAT UGLY
>SHORT LITTLE TWERP. Now who did the above to you? Who posted your home
>address, huh? NO ONE!
>
>*YOU* pin pointed my location. But NO ONE DID THAT TO YOU, did they?
>You specifically identified my location and posted info about me in a
>defamatory fashion in an attempt to humiliate me and ruin my life. And
>the pin pointing of my location also allowed other people to stalk and
>harass me. And you, ROBERT GRIFFIN, are going to pay for your years of
>fucking stalking and harassment against myself and others. Because I
>had people send threats to me after you posted my contact info. I had
>strangers telephone me, some were nice, some were not. I did not want
>that info posted on ASH, especially in a defamatory and HARASSING
>fashion. And your actions were CYBER STALKING and CRIMINAL HARASSMENT,
>you fat little shit.
>
>No one outed you, ROBERT GRIFFIN. No one posted your home address PIN
>POINTING your location, like you did to us, did they? The name ROBERT
>GRIFFIN and MAGNUS PYM don't mean a damn thing without an address
>attached, you stoopid fat fuck. How many Robert Griffin's are there in
>the world or even in AU? But there is only one *ME* at the address you
>published of myself.
>
>You outed me with contact info attached and you posted lies and
>harassment of me, you short, fat little shit. I could not give a shit
>what the time stamps state, because often they can be wrong and so can
>you. No one here that I know of ever posted your name here without it
>first being posted by you, cyber stalker.
>
>BTW! If you ever have the guts to show up here for you Ko0ksuit, then
>do so. I want to see you FACE TO FACE. But from what a lady here
>stated, you probably don't have the guts to do that. Rather, you just
>cry and blubber over the phone like a little boy.
>
>Come to your ko0ksuit, Robert. See me face to face. Stand up like a
>man. Quit hiding. Show some back bone. To hide any longer only confirms
>in my mind and the minds of others that you are truly a PHYSICAL
>COWARD.
>
>In the meanwhile, yes, there is an investigation going on about you. As
>I said previously, don't take this as a joke, ROBERT GRIFFIN. A few of
>us want you charged for various cyber crimes and stalking, because you
>fucked up our lives.
>
>HOW MANY TIMES DID YOU POST MY HOME ADDRESS AND NAME ON USENET, YOU
>COCK SUCKER?
>
>See you in court, if you have the guts, short ass!
>
>***@gmail.com wrote:
>> Anyone looking for a new fool?
>>
>> > ~ vera ~ wrote:
>> > > I do not believe you a word.
>> > >
>> > > At what time exactly shall RG have "outed" himself on that Dec 29th,
>> > > 2003?
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> > What an idiot.
>>
>> Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail
>> From: ***@hotmail.com (Hedges Sofa #1)
>> Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday,alt.suicide.methods
>> Subject: Regarding Magnus Pym AKA Robert Griffin and His Hatred of
>> Women
>> Date: 29 Dec 2003 13:36:49 -0800
>> Organization: http://groups.google.com
>> Lines: 107
>> Message-ID: <***@posting.google.com>
>> NNTP-Posting-Host: 172.149.12.26
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
>> X-Trace: posting.google.com 1072733810 25563 127.0.0.1 (29 Dec 2003
>> 21:36:50 GMT)
>> X-Complaints-To: groups-***@google.com
>> NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 21:36:50 +0000 (UTC)
>> Xref: uni-berlin.de alt.suicide.holiday:352690
>> alt.suicide.methods:30244
>>
>>
>> Let's see. Reading the time of the above post in GMT: PATRICK MICHAEL
>> SULLIVAN outed me at 21:36.50 -- some 20 minutes *before* I had
>> responded with the alleged "outing [my]self" post at 08:57:45 +1100...
>>
>> Do basic mathematics, plus a dateline conversion:
>>
>> My post was at 21:57.45 GMT!
>>
>> The outing was at 16:36.50 in The Zone Of The Black Hole Of Truth!
>>
>> Uh oh!
>>
>> Notice the name in the subject?
>>
>> In the subject header?
>>
>> Posted by one email address of over 100 legally proven ones used by
>> PATRICK MICHAEL SULLIVAN?
>>
>> Notice the AOL IP address in the header -- the IP address that traces
>> to an account used by PATRICK MICHAEL SULLIVAN?
>>
>> Uh oh!
>>
>> Guess someone better go "Looking For A New Fool", eh?
>>
>> Oh dear, oh my.... someone's little flopsy rabbit has been caught lying
>> for a stalker... again.
>>
>> Oh dear... oh my... the same stalker, ever a moron, who thought
>> skipping work for a day to nuke it's filthy posting history would pay
>> off...
>>
>> > What an idiot.
>>
>> Bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Let's see. In my time zone, it was at 1659. Notice his real name
>> > below? In the email header? Right next to the email address that he
>> > uses at times? Notice the primus.au IP address in the header?
>> >
>> > Don't be a fool.
>> >
>> >
>> > From: Bob Griffin <***@hotmail.com>
>> > Newsgroups:
>> > alt.suicide.holiday,alt.usenet.kooks,alt.suicide.methods,van.general,can.legal
>> > Subject: [PREDATOR PATRICK SULLIVAN] Re: i ruined a perfectly good life
>> > - mine
>> > Followup-To: alt.usenet.kooks
>> > Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003 08:57:45 +1100
>> > Organization: nil
>> > Lines: 52
>> > Message-ID: <***@hotmail.com>
>> > References: <bs7sbo$9r0$***@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu>
>> > <***@mb-m01.aol.com>
>> > NNTP-Posting-Host: 036.a.001.gsf.iprimus.net.au (210.50.154.36)
>> > Mime-Version: 1.0
>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>> > X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1072735151 336908 210.50.154.36 ([99621])
>> > X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
>> > X-Accept-Language: en
n***@myway.com
2005-07-13 02:04:48 UTC
Permalink
Greg Carr wrote:
> Why don't you just scan and post every single court record to do with
> Patrick Micheal Sullivan? It is public info and you should be able to
> find it at the courthouse downtown or since your involved with lawyers
> supposedly have them explain how to do it.

Here's part of it:

18. In respect to the Plaintiff's Statement of Claim as a
"whole", The defendant states the Plaintiff, using the pseudonym of
"Bob Griffin" with the e-mail address of
"***@hotmail.com", on Tuesday, 30th December,
2003, posted the Defendant's name, address and telephone number on
the Internet and Usenet newsgroups and then began a public harassment,
stalking and defamation campaign against the Defendant.

19. Furthermore, on that same date of Tuesday, 30th December, 2003, the
Plaintiff using that same pseudonym of "Bob Griffin" with the
e-mail address of "***@hotmail.com", also began
a public harassment, stalking and defamation campaign on the Internet
and Usenet newsgroups against the following Nanaimo businessman printed
below and labeled as (a). The Internet links to show where the
defamation and harassment took place on the Internet are labeled as (b)
and (c)

(a) "Sullivan Patrick & Associates 450 Wentworth Nanaimo, BC V9R3E1
250-
753-1124 Toll-free: 800-982-7761 Fax: 250-754-7692"
[Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003]

(b)
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3FF0AB87.9C99D345%40hotmail.com&output=gplain


(c) http://tinyurl.com/5lsbd

20. In the Supreme Court of British Columbia Canada Statement of Claim
(Nanaimo Registry No 42823) the Plaintiff has stated that he is
"Magnus Pym ***@hushmail.com" as stated paragraphs 4 (a) and
12 of the Plaintiff's Statement of Claim.

21. The Plaintiff posting on the Internet and on the Usenet newsgroup
alt.suicide.holiday as "Magnus Pym ***@hushmail.com" created
a public harassment, hatred and defamation campaign against the
Defendant as shown in the Internet and Usenet newsgroup articles below,
labeled as (a) or (b).

(a)
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=author%***@hushmail.com

(b) http://tinyurl.com/3pkff

22. On the Usenet newsgroup alt.suicide.holiday, available through
"Google Groups", the Plaintiff posting on the Internet and on
Usenet newsgroups as "Magnus Pym" with the e-mail address of
"***@hushmail.com", falsely and maliciously published or
caused to be published of and concerning the Defendant, the following
hatred, harassment, threats and defamatory words:


A. To the Defendant: "*Another* nick of yours, eh, you psychotic
stalker?;
[Date: 2003-12-29 15:01:09 PST]

B. To the Defendant: "Patrick, you stalking, abusive shitbag?";
[Date: 2003-12-29 15:01:09 PST]

C. To the Defendant: "Patrick M. Sullivan, the cyberstalking
scumbag";
[Date: 2003-12-29 14:06:28 PST]

D. To the Defendant: "What do you mean Sullivan, you shitbag
stalking
predator?";
[Date: 2003-12-29 14:06:28 PST]

E. To the Defendant: "Only a fucking idiot would ever trust a
scumbag like you,
Sullivan!";
[Date: 2003-12-29 14:06:27 PST]

F. To the Defendant: "LOL. You are an insincere tapeworm, Patrick
Sullivan.";
[Date: 2003-12-29 14:06:27 PST]

G. To the Defendant: "In other words Patrick: you are an abusive
criminal.";
[Date: 2003-12-29 14:06:12 PST]

H. To the Defendant: "Shall I remind you? Obviously I need to, since
you are a
brain dead maggot:";
[Date: 2003-12-29 14:06:28 PST]

I. To the Defendant: "K00kfest! Patrick Sullivan has found someone
as abusive
and as stupid as himself! I'll flame both these morons
at once... two for the price
of one is good value! :) ";
[Date: 2003-12-29 14:06:10 PST]

J. To the Defendant: "Your problems (besides your inability to leave
people the
fuck alone) have not begun yet, Patrick. They are only
beginning... as you are
about to find out!";
[Date: 2003-12-29 14:06:10 PST]

K. To the Defendant: "No Patrick, you are a criminal.";
[Date: 2003-12-29 14:06:08 PST]

L. To the Defendant: "Hey Patrick, you piece of shit, why don't you
tell ash about
the island.net account you lost for sending death
threats to people on the
Canadian newsgroups? ";
[Date: 2003-12-29 14:06:08 PST]

M. To the Defendant: "BWHAHAHAHA! To see the predator, stalker, and
liar
Patrick Michael Sullivan lecture someone about
trust!";
[Date: 2003-12-29 14:05:50 PST]

N. To the Defendant: "The biggest bully ever to hit ash has been
Patrick Sullivan,
the name used by some drunken slob living in a trailer
park.";
[Date: 2003-12-29 14:05:40 PST]

O. To the Defendant: "Anoither lie, Patrick Sullivan. I flamed
fuckard preditor
trolls like you, Wasserman, Shagger Bint, Wiser, and
Juarez.";
[Date: 2003-12-29 14:05:40 PST]

P. To the Defendant: "Oh yes... the police came to visit you in your
slum, didn't
they Patrick? A Constable P**** from the Nanaimo
office of the RCMP --
right, Patrick? The police are *my* friends... but,
they're not yours, are they,
Patrick?";
[Date: 2003-12-29 14:05:40 PST]

Q. To the Defendant: "But you will have your wish, Sullivan. You'll
be seeing me
before long, but it won't be, shall we say, in a place
where you'll be able to do
much except squirm in the dock ... LOL.";
[Date: 2003-12-29 14:05:40 PST]

R. To the Defendant: "You are a liar and an abusive piece of shit,
Sullivan.";
[Date: 2003-12-29 14:05:00 PST]

S. To the Defendant: "BTW: Patrick Sullivan lied, stalked, harassed
and libeled
*for* the sociopath Douglas Wiser.";
[Date: 2003-12-29 14:05:00 PST]

T. To the Defendant: "The police are *my* friends... there was a
very good
Special Officer from the High Tech Crime Centre of the
Australian Federal
Police to whom I spoke about *YOU*, Patrick Sullivan
-- oh, and Douglas
Wiser and Louis Charles Juarez, as well...";
[Date: 2003-12-29 13:19:29 PST]

U. To the Defendant: "Maybe *she* wants to sue you, too! She can...
after I have!
See, this shit is ready for some courtroom action now
-- along with over 100
examples of your other ejaculations of libel and lies.
AOL is being subpoenaed
for your account info.";
[Date: 2003-12-29 13:19:29 PST]

V. To the Defendant: "Why is that, Patrick? Is it because you are an
illiterate lazy
fuck? Or is it because you are a predatory piece of
cyberstalking gutter slime?
Or, is it because you are an incurably stupid luser..
who is now gonna be
sucked drier than a dick in Shagger Bint's mouth?";
[Date: 2003-12-29 13:19:29 PST]

W. To the Defendant: "No doubt they want to see YOUR FUCKING FAT
ARSE
SQUIRM IN COURT as much as I do, and I'm sure they'll
help me to do so,
now! LOL!";
[Date: 2003-12-29 13:00:06 PST]

X. To the Defendant: "You are one sorry scuzzball, Sullivan!";
[Date: 2003-12-29 13:00:06 PST]

Y. To the Defendant: "Die already, you scum.";
[Date: 2003-12-29 13:00:06 PST]

Z. To the Defendant: "We came to wreck everything... and ruin your
life. God sent
us.".
[Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003]
(the "Words")

23. With malicious intent, The Plaintiff utilized the Nanaimo Royal
Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) department resources and RCMP Constables
as a way to harass and humiliate the Defendant. The Plaintiff took the
printed results of a police investigation (RCMP File Number 2003-43009)
and then "blacked out" the important parts. And unknown to the
Nanaimo RCMP, and to publicly humiliate the Defendant, the Plaintiff
created a website to publish the "doctored" RCMP letter, which the
Nanaimo RCMP mailed to the Plaintiff. The website link is below,
labeled as (a).

(a) http://www.geocities.com/pms_kook/

24. The Plaintiff has also created a "hate campaign" website
entitled "The Douglas Wiser FAQ". This website sponsors hatred,
harassment and defames the Defendant and also publicly harasses and
defames following Internet and Usenet newsgroup posters named below and
labeled as (a), (b), (c), (d), (e), (f). And the Internet website,
which the Plaintiff created, is labeled as (g).

(a) Cori Wasserman
(b) Doug Wiser
(c) Barbara Schwarz
(d) Louis Charles Candell
(e) "Sugar Britches" [real name is unknown]
(f) Bill Jillians
(g) http://kook.nm.ru/FAQ18.html [site now closed for abusive content]

25. Furthermore, the Plaintiff has a well established a pattern of
stalking and abuse towards other Internet and Usenet newsgroup users.
The Plaintiff stalks his victims by filing numerous frivolous
complaints with law enforcement on a world wide scale. The Plaintiff
does this to intimidate, harass and humiliate people who the Plaintiff
has had disagreements with on the Internet and Usenet newsgroups. The
Plaintiff, while using his admitted name of "Magnus Pym" with the
e-mail address of "***@hushmail.com" and his other alias of
"Bob Griffin" with the e-mail address of
"***@hotmail.com" has published to the Internet
and to Usenet newsgroups the following harassing and threatening
"words" as printed below and labeled as (a), (b), (c), (d), (e),
(f) (g) and (h).

(a) "Jurarez is also under FBI investigation for the stalking and
harrassment of the
original proponent. An FBI File Number is
available,";
[Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004]

(b) "I got that email, all right. Seems Douglas Wiser's postings
were handed by the
Coroner to the CID. You pal, Douglas Wiser: a
subject of police
investigation, related to the death of an ash
poster. Well, well, well. It puts all
that UK media activity and the search for predators
in ash in a new light...";
[Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003]

(c) "The Nanaimo detachment of the RCMP didn't find it funny,
either!";
[Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003]

(d) "My doing so would deprive the RCMP of the pleasure beating you
blue and
of locking you up.";
[Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003]

(e) "Feel free also to contact the Los Angeles office of the FBI...
where there are
other statements on record from me regarding
*preditors* there.";
[Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003]

(f) "Too bad that running away isn't going to save you from the
"Jane Doe"
subpoenas I have on Web TV for you.".;
[Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003]

(g) "I intend to SUE YOUR FUCKING FAT ARSE OFF for that!....I also
intend
to sue you and pursue criminal charges against you,
Cori Wasserman....Feel
free to contact my attorney, if you're in any
doubt:";
[Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003]

(h) "See you in court, bitch!"
[Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003]
(the "Words")

26. After the Plaintiff published the full name, home address and
telephone of the Defendant on the Internet and newsgroups, the
Defendant began to receive telephone calls from strangers. Some of the
telephone calls were verbally threatening in nature. The Defendant had
to change his telephone number, because of the telephone harassment, at
a cost of to the Defendant $50.00 Canadian. Also, the Defendant has now
had to make his telephone unlisted for fear of future harassment from
the Plaintiff, or from the Plaintiff's harassing and abusive
associates.

27. Furthermore, after the Plaintiff published on the Internet and
newsgroups the full name, home address and telephone of the Defendant,
the Defendant received posted Internet and Usenet newsgroup threats of
physical violence and also of harassment from other Internet and Usenet
newsgroup users, as printed below and labeled as (a), (b), (c) and (d).

(a) "I will chew you up and spit you out...";
[Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004]

(b) "You know, BC is not that far away, Mr. Sullivan had better go
hide in south
mexico or El-Salvador in the jungle.";
[Date: 12 May 2004]

(c) "I find that a few strong words and a few well placed strikes
with a Liousville
Slugger, usually gets the point across and it is a
wonderfull "attitude adjuster".
Walking with a limp for the rest of their life helps
them remember the error of
their ways.";
[Date: 12 May 2004]

(d) Like I tell people. Don't cop a attitude and Piss off people you
don,t know
cause he may be someone who WILL drive 4000+ Km to
come and see you
and discuss it face to face,(if you are lucky). and
finding people can require
some time and effort but it aint that hard!"
[Date: 12 May 2004]
Tremendous Wang
2005-07-13 07:12:29 UTC
Permalink
Do you realize that if you really are taken to court over this, the court will
have access to googlegroups and will be able to determine fairly quickly who
started what? I'm not saying the version of the story you keep posting isn't
accurate, I'm saying it doesn't matter if it is or not, but you'd better hope
it is because if you left out any references to posts in your timeline, the
court will find them. This isn't a case of your word against his, this is a
case that will come down to evidence documented by an impartial third party
(Google).


In article <***@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
***@myway.com says...
>
>
>Greg Carr wrote:
>> Why don't you just scan and post every single court record to do with
>> Patrick Micheal Sullivan? It is public info and you should be able to
>> find it at the courthouse downtown or since your involved with lawyers
>> supposedly have them explain how to do it.
>
>Here's part of it:
>
>18. In respect to the Plaintiff's Statement of Claim as a
>"whole", The defendant states the Plaintiff, using the pseudonym of
>"Bob Griffin" with the e-mail address of
>"***@hotmail.com", on Tuesday, 30th December,
>2003, posted the Defendant's name, address and telephone number on
>the Internet and Usenet newsgroups and then began a public harassment,
>stalking and defamation campaign against the Defendant.
>
>19. Furthermore, on that same date of Tuesday, 30th December, 2003, the
>Plaintiff using that same pseudonym of "Bob Griffin" with the
>e-mail address of "***@hotmail.com", also began
>a public harassment, stalking and defamation campaign on the Internet
>and Usenet newsgroups against the following Nanaimo businessman printed
>below and labeled as (a). The Internet links to show where the
>defamation and harassment took place on the Internet are labeled as (b)
>and (c)
>
>(a) "Sullivan Patrick & Associates 450 Wentworth Nanaimo, BC V9R3E1
>250-
> 753-1124 Toll-free: 800-982-7761 Fax: 250-754-7692"
> [Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003]
>
>(b)
>http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3FF0AB87.9C99D345%40hotmail.com&output=gp
lain
>
>
>(c) http://tinyurl.com/5lsbd
>
>20. In the Supreme Court of British Columbia Canada Statement of Claim
>(Nanaimo Registry No 42823) the Plaintiff has stated that he is
>"Magnus Pym ***@hushmail.com" as stated paragraphs 4 (a) and
>12 of the Plaintiff's Statement of Claim.
>
>21. The Plaintiff posting on the Internet and on the Usenet newsgroup
>alt.suicide.holiday as "Magnus Pym ***@hushmail.com" created
>a public harassment, hatred and defamation campaign against the
>Defendant as shown in the Internet and Usenet newsgroup articles below,
>labeled as (a) or (b).
>
>(a)
>http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=author%***@hushma
il.com
>
>(b) http://tinyurl.com/3pkff
>
>22. On the Usenet newsgroup alt.suicide.holiday, available through
>"Google Groups", the Plaintiff posting on the Internet and on
>Usenet newsgroups as "Magnus Pym" with the e-mail address of
>"***@hushmail.com", falsely and maliciously published or
>caused to be published of and concerning the Defendant, the following
>hatred, harassment, threats and defamatory words:
>
>
>A. To the Defendant: "*Another* nick of yours, eh, you psychotic
>stalker?;
> [Date: 2003-12-29 15:01:09 PST]
>
> B. To the Defendant: "Patrick, you stalking, abusive shitbag?";
> [Date: 2003-12-29 15:01:09 PST]
>
> C. To the Defendant: "Patrick M. Sullivan, the cyberstalking
>scumbag";
> [Date: 2003-12-29 14:06:28 PST]
>
> D. To the Defendant: "What do you mean Sullivan, you shitbag
>stalking
> predator?";
> [Date: 2003-12-29 14:06:28 PST]
>
> E. To the Defendant: "Only a fucking idiot would ever trust a
>scumbag like you,
> Sullivan!";
> [Date: 2003-12-29 14:06:27 PST]
>
> F. To the Defendant: "LOL. You are an insincere tapeworm, Patrick
>Sullivan.";
> [Date: 2003-12-29 14:06:27 PST]
>
> G. To the Defendant: "In other words Patrick: you are an abusive
>criminal.";
> [Date: 2003-12-29 14:06:12 PST]
>
> H. To the Defendant: "Shall I remind you? Obviously I need to, since
>you are a
> brain dead maggot:";
> [Date: 2003-12-29 14:06:28 PST]
>
> I. To the Defendant: "K00kfest! Patrick Sullivan has found someone
>as abusive
> and as stupid as himself! I'll flame both these morons
>at once... two for the price
> of one is good value! :) ";
> [Date: 2003-12-29 14:06:10 PST]
>
> J. To the Defendant: "Your problems (besides your inability to leave
>people the
> fuck alone) have not begun yet, Patrick. They are only
>beginning... as you are
> about to find out!";
> [Date: 2003-12-29 14:06:10 PST]
>
> K. To the Defendant: "No Patrick, you are a criminal.";
> [Date: 2003-12-29 14:06:08 PST]
>
> L. To the Defendant: "Hey Patrick, you piece of shit, why don't you
>tell ash about
> the island.net account you lost for sending death
>threats to people on the
> Canadian newsgroups? ";
> [Date: 2003-12-29 14:06:08 PST]
>
> M. To the Defendant: "BWHAHAHAHA! To see the predator, stalker, and
>liar
> Patrick Michael Sullivan lecture someone about
>trust!";
> [Date: 2003-12-29 14:05:50 PST]
>
> N. To the Defendant: "The biggest bully ever to hit ash has been
>Patrick Sullivan,
> the name used by some drunken slob living in a trailer
>park.";
> [Date: 2003-12-29 14:05:40 PST]
>
> O. To the Defendant: "Anoither lie, Patrick Sullivan. I flamed
>fuckard preditor
> trolls like you, Wasserman, Shagger Bint, Wiser, and
>Juarez.";
> [Date: 2003-12-29 14:05:40 PST]
>
> P. To the Defendant: "Oh yes... the police came to visit you in your
>slum, didn't
> they Patrick? A Constable P**** from the Nanaimo
>office of the RCMP --
> right, Patrick? The police are *my* friends... but,
>they're not yours, are they,
> Patrick?";
> [Date: 2003-12-29 14:05:40 PST]
>
> Q. To the Defendant: "But you will have your wish, Sullivan. You'll
>be seeing me
> before long, but it won't be, shall we say, in a place
>where you'll be able to do
> much except squirm in the dock ... LOL.";
> [Date: 2003-12-29 14:05:40 PST]
>
> R. To the Defendant: "You are a liar and an abusive piece of shit,
>Sullivan.";
> [Date: 2003-12-29 14:05:00 PST]
>
> S. To the Defendant: "BTW: Patrick Sullivan lied, stalked, harassed
>and libeled
> *for* the sociopath Douglas Wiser.";
> [Date: 2003-12-29 14:05:00 PST]
>
> T. To the Defendant: "The police are *my* friends... there was a
>very good
> Special Officer from the High Tech Crime Centre of the
>Australian Federal
> Police to whom I spoke about *YOU*, Patrick Sullivan
>-- oh, and Douglas
> Wiser and Louis Charles Juarez, as well...";
> [Date: 2003-12-29 13:19:29 PST]
>
> U. To the Defendant: "Maybe *she* wants to sue you, too! She can...
>after I have!
> See, this shit is ready for some courtroom action now
>-- along with over 100
> examples of your other ejaculations of libel and lies.
>AOL is being subpoenaed
> for your account info.";
> [Date: 2003-12-29 13:19:29 PST]
>
> V. To the Defendant: "Why is that, Patrick? Is it because you are an
>illiterate lazy
> fuck? Or is it because you are a predatory piece of
>cyberstalking gutter slime?
> Or, is it because you are an incurably stupid luser..
>who is now gonna be
> sucked drier than a dick in Shagger Bint's mouth?";
> [Date: 2003-12-29 13:19:29 PST]
>
> W. To the Defendant: "No doubt they want to see YOUR FUCKING FAT
>ARSE
> SQUIRM IN COURT as much as I do, and I'm sure they'll
>help me to do so,
> now! LOL!";
> [Date: 2003-12-29 13:00:06 PST]
>
> X. To the Defendant: "You are one sorry scuzzball, Sullivan!";
> [Date: 2003-12-29 13:00:06 PST]
>
> Y. To the Defendant: "Die already, you scum.";
> [Date: 2003-12-29 13:00:06 PST]
>
> Z. To the Defendant: "We came to wreck everything... and ruin your
>life. God sent
> us.".
> [Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003]
>(the "Words")
>
>23. With malicious intent, The Plaintiff utilized the Nanaimo Royal
>Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) department resources and RCMP Constables
>as a way to harass and humiliate the Defendant. The Plaintiff took the
>printed results of a police investigation (RCMP File Number 2003-43009)
>and then "blacked out" the important parts. And unknown to the
>Nanaimo RCMP, and to publicly humiliate the Defendant, the Plaintiff
>created a website to publish the "doctored" RCMP letter, which the
>Nanaimo RCMP mailed to the Plaintiff. The website link is below,
>labeled as (a).
>
> (a) http://www.geocities.com/pms_kook/
>
>24. The Plaintiff has also created a "hate campaign" website
>entitled "The Douglas Wiser FAQ". This website sponsors hatred,
>harassment and defames the Defendant and also publicly harasses and
>defames following Internet and Usenet newsgroup posters named below and
>labeled as (a), (b), (c), (d), (e), (f). And the Internet website,
>which the Plaintiff created, is labeled as (g).
>
> (a) Cori Wasserman
> (b) Doug Wiser
> (c) Barbara Schwarz
> (d) Louis Charles Candell
> (e) "Sugar Britches" [real name is unknown]
> (f) Bill Jillians
> (g) http://kook.nm.ru/FAQ18.html [site now closed for abusive content]
>
>25. Furthermore, the Plaintiff has a well established a pattern of
>stalking and abuse towards other Internet and Usenet newsgroup users.
>The Plaintiff stalks his victims by filing numerous frivolous
>complaints with law enforcement on a world wide scale. The Plaintiff
>does this to intimidate, harass and humiliate people who the Plaintiff
>has had disagreements with on the Internet and Usenet newsgroups. The
>Plaintiff, while using his admitted name of "Magnus Pym" with the
>e-mail address of "***@hushmail.com" and his other alias of
>"Bob Griffin" with the e-mail address of
>"***@hotmail.com" has published to the Internet
>and to Usenet newsgroups the following harassing and threatening
>"words" as printed below and labeled as (a), (b), (c), (d), (e),
>(f) (g) and (h).
>
> (a) "Jurarez is also under FBI investigation for the stalking and
>harrassment of the
> original proponent. An FBI File Number is
>available,";
> [Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004]
>
> (b) "I got that email, all right. Seems Douglas Wiser's postings
>were handed by the
> Coroner to the CID. You pal, Douglas Wiser: a
>subject of police
> investigation, related to the death of an ash
>poster. Well, well, well. It puts all
> that UK media activity and the search for predators
>in ash in a new light...";
> [Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003]
>
> (c) "The Nanaimo detachment of the RCMP didn't find it funny,
>either!";
> [Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003]
>
> (d) "My doing so would deprive the RCMP of the pleasure beating you
>blue and
> of locking you up.";
> [Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003]
>
> (e) "Feel free also to contact the Los Angeles office of the FBI...
>where there are
> other statements on record from me regarding
>*preditors* there.";
> [Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003]
>
> (f) "Too bad that running away isn't going to save you from the
>"Jane Doe"
> subpoenas I have on Web TV for you.".;
> [Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003]
>
> (g) "I intend to SUE YOUR FUCKING FAT ARSE OFF for that!....I also
>intend
> to sue you and pursue criminal charges against you,
>Cori Wasserman....Feel
> free to contact my attorney, if you're in any
>doubt:";
> [Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003]
>
> (h) "See you in court, bitch!"
> [Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003]
>(the "Words")
>
>26. After the Plaintiff published the full name, home address and
>telephone of the Defendant on the Internet and newsgroups, the
>Defendant began to receive telephone calls from strangers. Some of the
>telephone calls were verbally threatening in nature. The Defendant had
>to change his telephone number, because of the telephone harassment, at
>a cost of to the Defendant $50.00 Canadian. Also, the Defendant has now
>had to make his telephone unlisted for fear of future harassment from
>the Plaintiff, or from the Plaintiff's harassing and abusive
>associates.
>
>27. Furthermore, after the Plaintiff published on the Internet and
>newsgroups the full name, home address and telephone of the Defendant,
>the Defendant received posted Internet and Usenet newsgroup threats of
>physical violence and also of harassment from other Internet and Usenet
>newsgroup users, as printed below and labeled as (a), (b), (c) and (d).
>
> (a) "I will chew you up and spit you out...";
> [Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004]
>
> (b) "You know, BC is not that far away, Mr. Sullivan had better go
>hide in south
> mexico or El-Salvador in the jungle.";
> [Date: 12 May 2004]
>
> (c) "I find that a few strong words and a few well placed strikes
>with a Liousville
> Slugger, usually gets the point across and it is a
>wonderfull "attitude adjuster".
> Walking with a limp for the rest of their life helps
>them remember the error of
> their ways.";
> [Date: 12 May 2004]
>
> (d) Like I tell people. Don't cop a attitude and Piss off people you
>don,t know
> cause he may be someone who WILL drive 4000+ Km to
>come and see you
> and discuss it face to face,(if you are lucky). and
>finding people can require
> some time and effort but it aint that hard!"
> [Date: 12 May 2004]
>
B L O U
2005-07-13 07:49:09 UTC
Permalink
***@wang.com (Tremendous Wang) writes:

> Do you realize that if you really are taken to court over this, the
> court will have access to googlegroups and will be able to determine
> fairly quickly who started what? I'm not saying the version of the
> story you keep posting isn't accurate, I'm saying it doesn't matter
> if it is or not, but you'd better hope it is because if you left out
> any references to posts in your timeline, the court will find them.
> This isn't a case of your word against his, this is a case that will
> come down to evidence documented by an impartial third party
> (Google).

bingo :)

in my opinion, the person who started this whole war was robert, but
of course his take on the story would be, "doug started it!"

robert literally turned ASH against himself to the point of someone
ousting him like he had done to more than a handful of people for the
months prior to his ousting, which was done thru an anonymous remailer
in true magnus pym style.
~ vera ~
2005-07-13 15:35:02 UTC
Permalink
B L O U <***@ossh.com> wrote:
> ***@wang.com (Tremendous Wang) writes:
>
>> Do you realize that if you really are taken to court over this, the
>> court will have access to googlegroups and will be able to determine
>> fairly quickly who started what? I'm not saying the version of the
>> story you keep posting isn't accurate, I'm saying it doesn't matter
>> if it is or not, but you'd better hope it is because if you left out
>> any references to posts in your timeline, the court will find them.
>> This isn't a case of your word against his, this is a case that will
>> come down to evidence documented by an impartial third party
>> (Google).
>
> bingo :)
>
> in my opinion, the person who started this whole war was robert, but
> of course his take on the story would be, "doug started it!"
>
> robert literally turned ASH against himself to the point of someone
> ousting him like he had done to more than a handful of people for the
> months prior to his ousting, which was done thru an anonymous remailer
> in true magnus pym style.

I got a harassing e-mail in true Barbara Schwarz style in January and in
German after someone outed me with my full address and phone number in
ASH and ASM.

Does RG know any German?

But Barbara does, go figure. And the e-mail in English that I got was
Patrick Sullivan jargon. And I have been able to find out about his hate
and verbal brutality against me lately. He has no empathy, no scruples.

Weird enough that someone deleted the posts that outed me...

Maybe I was in the way of the "Christian" Doug Wiser who feared to be
revealed as what he is by me? There is not much Christian background to
be seen in his actions.

~ vera ~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~ http://www.acc-growing-deeper.de ~
~ http://www.acc-growing-deeper.de/Israel.htm ~
~ http://www.acc-growing-deeper.de/brokenhearts.htm ~
~ http://www.e-sword.net ~
n***@myway.com
2005-07-13 12:36:26 UTC
Permalink
Tremendous Wang wrote:
> Do you realize that if you really are taken to court over this, the court will
> have access to googlegroups and will be able to determine fairly quickly who
> started what? I'm not saying the version of the story you keep posting isn't
> accurate, I'm saying it doesn't matter if it is or not, but you'd better hope
> it is because if you left out any references to posts in your timeline, the
> court will find them. This isn't a case of your word against his, this is a
> case that will come down to evidence documented by an impartial third party
> (Google).

Thanks for your comments. You might want to read some of Robert
Griffin's posting histories, which ammounts to nothing more than about
4 years of serious stalking and abuse:

http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?enc_author=Q9N7_RYAAAChEX4oo7zIdq04TFqSY3e_o4cocwWvDVg2RHsu8f1bCg&hl=en

http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?enc_author=21ysdhYAAACQDY0e1TEZmgvv2WNC3YGSo4cocwWvDVg2RHsu8f1bCg&hl=en

http://groups-beta.google.com/groups?enc_author=HuISxiMAAABnuJomBE5gIeKzhgb6u-qUWWnFpW0YmfcmKWPlfCZSbVjI-r6G--cUt-pl3NuIesM&hl=en
a***@gmail.com
2005-07-13 05:01:01 UTC
Permalink
Greg Carr wrote:


> Why don't you just scan and post every single court record to do with
> Patrick Micheal Sullivan? It is public info and you should be able to
> find it at the courthouse downtown or since your involved with lawyers
> supposedly have them explain how to do it.

The kook Patrick Michael Sullivan already posted a portion of it's
lame, stupid, full-of-lies Statement of 'Defense' then cowardly
cancelled the post.

Awwww. Too bad for PMS that I have a copy of the post.

See?

What the moron doesn't realize is that every and every statement below
is a half truth or a lie... and they can easily be proven to be the
load of lies they are.



From: ***@myway.com
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Greg Carr wrote:
> Why don't you just scan and post every single court record to do with
> Patrick Micheal Sullivan? It is public info and you should be able to
> find it at the courthouse downtown or since your involved with lawyers
> supposedly have them explain how to do it.

Here's part of it:

18. In respect to the Plaintiff's Statement of Claim as a
"whole", The defendant states the Plaintiff, using the pseudonym of
"Bob Griffin" with the e-mail address of
"***@hotmail.com", on Tuesday, 30th December,
2003, posted the Defendant's name, address and telephone number on
the Internet and Usenet newsgroups and then began a public harassment,
stalking and defamation campaign against the Defendant.

19. Furthermore, on that same date of Tuesday, 30th December, 2003, the
Plaintiff using that same pseudonym of "Bob Griffin" with the
e-mail address of "***@hotmail.com", also began
a public harassment, stalking and defamation campaign on the Internet
and Usenet newsgroups against the following Nanaimo businessman printed
below and labeled as (a). The Internet links to show where the
defamation and harassment took place on the Internet are labeled as (b)
and (c)

(a) "Sullivan Patrick & Associates 450 Wentworth Nanaimo, BC V9R3E1
250-
753-1124 Toll-free: 800-982-7761 Fax: 250-754-7692"
[Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003]

(b)
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3FF0AB87.9C99D345%40hotmail.com&output=gplain

(c) http://tinyurl.com/5lsbd

20. In the Supreme Court of British Columbia Canada Statement of Claim
(Nanaimo Registry No 42823) the Plaintiff has stated that he is
"Magnus Pym ***@hushmail.com" as stated paragraphs 4 (a) and
12 of the Plaintiff's Statement of Claim.

21. The Plaintiff posting on the Internet and on the Usenet newsgroup
alt.suicide.holiday as "Magnus Pym ***@hushmail.com" created
a public harassment, hatred and defamation campaign against the
Defendant as shown in the Internet and Usenet newsgroup articles below,
labeled as (a) or (b).

(a)
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=author%***@hushmail.com

(b) http://tinyurl.com/3pkff

22. On the Usenet newsgroup alt.suicide.holiday, available through
"Google Groups", the Plaintiff posting on the Internet and on
Usenet newsgroups as "Magnus Pym" with the e-mail address of
"***@hushmail.com", falsely and maliciously published or
caused to be published of and concerning the Defendant, the following
hatred, harassment, threats and defamatory words:

A. To the Defendant: "*Another* nick of yours, eh, you psychotic
stalker?;
[Date: 2003-12-29 15:01:09 PST]

B. To the Defendant: "Patrick, you stalking, abusive shitbag?";
[Date: 2003-12-29 15:01:09 PST]

C. To the Defendant: "Patrick M. Sullivan, the cyberstalking
scumbag";
[Date: 2003-12-29 14:06:28 PST]

D. To the Defendant: "What do you mean Sullivan, you shitbag
stalking
predator?";
[Date: 2003-12-29 14:06:28 PST]

E. To the Defendant: "Only a fucking idiot would ever trust a
scumbag like you,
Sullivan!";
[Date: 2003-12-29 14:06:27 PST]

F. To the Defendant: "LOL. You are an insincere tapeworm,
Patrick
Sullivan.";
[Date: 2003-12-29 14:06:27 PST]

G. To the Defendant: "In other words Patrick: you are an
abusive
criminal.";
[Date: 2003-12-29 14:06:12 PST]

H. To the Defendant: "Shall I remind you? Obviously I need to,
since
you are a
brain dead maggot:";
[Date: 2003-12-29 14:06:28 PST]

I. To the Defendant: "K00kfest! Patrick Sullivan has found
someone
as abusive
and as stupid as himself! I'll flame both these morons
at once... two for the price
of one is good value! :) ";
[Date: 2003-12-29 14:06:10 PST]

J. To the Defendant: "Your problems (besides your inability to
leave
people the
fuck alone) have not begun yet, Patrick. They are only
beginning... as you are
about to find out!";
[Date: 2003-12-29 14:06:10 PST]

K. To the Defendant: "No Patrick, you are a criminal.";
[Date: 2003-12-29 14:06:08 PST]

L. To the Defendant: "Hey Patrick, you piece of shit, why don't
you
tell ash about
the island.net account you lost for sending death
threats to people on the
Canadian newsgroups? ";
[Date: 2003-12-29 14:06:08 PST]

M. To the Defendant: "BWHAHAHAHA! To see the predator, stalker,
and
liar
Patrick Michael Sullivan lecture someone about
trust!";
[Date: 2003-12-29 14:05:50 PST]

N. To the Defendant: "The biggest bully ever to hit ash has
been
Patrick Sullivan,
the name used by some drunken slob living in a trailer
park.";
[Date: 2003-12-29 14:05:40 PST]

O. To the Defendant: "Anoither lie, Patrick Sullivan. I flamed
fuckard preditor
trolls like you, Wasserman, Shagger Bint, Wiser, and
Juarez.";
[Date: 2003-12-29 14:05:40 PST]

P. To the Defendant: "Oh yes... the police came to visit you in
your
slum, didn't
they Patrick? A Constable P**** from the Nanaimo
office of the RCMP --
right, Patrick? The police are *my* friends... but,
they're not yours, are they,
Patrick?";
[Date: 2003-12-29 14:05:40 PST]

Q. To the Defendant: "But you will have your wish, Sullivan.
You'll
be seeing me
before long, but it won't be, shall we say, in a place
where you'll be able to do
much except squirm in the dock ... LOL.";
[Date: 2003-12-29 14:05:40 PST]

R. To the Defendant: "You are a liar and an abusive piece of
shit,
Sullivan.";
[Date: 2003-12-29 14:05:00 PST]

S. To the Defendant: "BTW: Patrick Sullivan lied, stalked,
harassed
and libeled
*for* the sociopath Douglas Wiser.";
[Date: 2003-12-29 14:05:00 PST]

T. To the Defendant: "The police are *my* friends... there was
a
very good
Special Officer from the High Tech Crime Centre of the
Australian Federal
Police to whom I spoke about *YOU*, Patrick Sullivan
-- oh, and Douglas
Wiser and Louis Charles Juarez, as well...";
[Date: 2003-12-29 13:19:29 PST]

U. To the Defendant: "Maybe *she* wants to sue you, too! She
can...
after I have!
See, this shit is ready for some courtroom action now
-- along with over 100
examples of your other ejaculations of libel and lies.
AOL is being subpoenaed
for your account info.";
[Date: 2003-12-29 13:19:29 PST]

V. To the Defendant: "Why is that, Patrick? Is it because you
are an
illiterate lazy
fuck? Or is it because you are a predatory piece of
cyberstalking gutter slime?
Or, is it because you are an incurably stupid luser..
who is now gonna be
sucked drier than a dick in Shagger Bint's mouth?";
[Date: 2003-12-29 13:19:29 PST]

W. To the Defendant: "No doubt they want to see YOUR FUCKING
FAT
ARSE
SQUIRM IN COURT as much as I do, and I'm sure they'll
help me to do so,
now! LOL!";
[Date: 2003-12-29 13:00:06 PST]

X. To the Defendant: "You are one sorry scuzzball, Sullivan!";
[Date: 2003-12-29 13:00:06 PST]

Y. To the Defendant: "Die already, you scum.";
[Date: 2003-12-29 13:00:06 PST]

Z. To the Defendant: "We came to wreck everything... and ruin
your
life. God sent
us.".
[Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003]
(the "Words")

23. With malicious intent, The Plaintiff utilized the Nanaimo Royal
Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) department resources and RCMP Constables
as a way to harass and humiliate the Defendant. The Plaintiff took the
printed results of a police investigation (RCMP File Number 2003-43009)
and then "blacked out" the important parts. And unknown to the
Nanaimo RCMP, and to publicly humiliate the Defendant, the Plaintiff
created a website to publish the "doctored" RCMP letter, which the
Nanaimo RCMP mailed to the Plaintiff. The website link is below,
labeled as (a).

(a) http://www.geocities.com/pms_kook/

24. The Plaintiff has also created a "hate campaign" website
entitled "The Douglas Wiser FAQ". This website sponsors hatred,
harassment and defames the Defendant and also publicly harasses and
defames following Internet and Usenet newsgroup posters named below and
labeled as (a), (b), (c), (d), (e), (f). And the Internet website,
which the Plaintiff created, is labeled as (g).

(a) Cori Wasserman
(b) Doug Wiser
(c) Barbara Schwarz
(d) Louis Charles Candell
(e) "Sugar Britches" [real name is unknown]
(f) Bill Jillians
(g) http://kook.nm.ru/FAQ18.html [site now closed for abusive
content]

25. Furthermore, the Plaintiff has a well established a pattern of
stalking and abuse towards other Internet and Usenet newsgroup users.
The Plaintiff stalks his victims by filing numerous frivolous
complaints with law enforcement on a world wide scale. The Plaintiff
does this to intimidate, harass and humiliate people who the Plaintiff
has had disagreements with on the Internet and Usenet newsgroups. The
Plaintiff, while using his admitted name of "Magnus Pym" with the
e-mail address of "***@hushmail.com" and his other alias of
"Bob Griffin" with the e-mail address of
"***@hotmail.com" has published to the Internet
and to Usenet newsgroups the following harassing and threatening
"words" as printed below and labeled as (a), (b), (c), (d), (e),
(f) (g) and (h).

(a) "Jurarez is also under FBI investigation for the stalking
and
harrassment of the
original proponent. An FBI File Number is
available,";
[Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2004]

(b) "I got that email, all right. Seems Douglas Wiser's
postings
were handed by the
Coroner to the CID. You pal, Douglas Wiser: a
subject of police
investigation, related to the death of an ash
poster. Well, well, well. It puts all
that UK media activity and the search for predators
in ash in a new light...";
[Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003]

(c) "The Nanaimo detachment of the RCMP didn't find it funny,
either!";
[Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003]

(d) "My doing so would deprive the RCMP of the pleasure beating
you
blue and
of locking you up.";
[Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003]

(e) "Feel free also to contact the Los Angeles office of the
FBI...
where there are
other statements on record from me regarding
*preditors* there.";
[Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003]

(f) "Too bad that running away isn't going to save you from the
"Jane Doe"
subpoenas I have on Web TV for you.".;
[Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003]

(g) "I intend to SUE YOUR FUCKING FAT ARSE OFF for that!....I
also
intend
to sue you and pursue criminal charges against you,
Cori Wasserman....Feel
free to contact my attorney, if you're in any
doubt:";
[Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003]

(h) "See you in court, bitch!"
[Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003]
(the "Words")

26. After the Plaintiff published the full name, home address and
telephone of the Defendant on the Internet and newsgroups, the
Defendant began to receive telephone calls from strangers. Some of the
telephone calls were verbally threatening in nature. The Defendant had
to change his telephone number, because of the telephone harassment, at
a cost of to the Defendant $50.00 Canadian. Also, the Defendant has now
had to make his telephone unlisted for fear of future harassment from
the Plaintiff, or from the Plaintiff's harassing and abusive
associates.

27. Furthermore, after the Plaintiff published on the Internet and
newsgroups the full name, home address and telephone of the Defendant,
the Defendant received posted Internet and Usenet newsgroup threats of
physical violence and also of harassment from other Internet and Usenet
newsgroup users, as printed below and labeled as (a), (b), (c) and (d).

(a) "I will chew you up and spit you out...";
[Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004]

(b) "You know, BC is not that far away, Mr. Sullivan had better
go
hide in south
mexico or El-Salvador in the jungle.";
[Date: 12 May 2004]

(c) "I find that a few strong words and a few well placed
strikes
with a Liousville
Slugger, usually gets the point across and it is a
wonderfull "attitude adjuster".
Walking with a limp for the rest of their life helps
them remember the error of
their ways.";
[Date: 12 May 2004]

(d) Like I tell people. Don't cop a attitude and Piss off
people you
don,t know
cause he may be someone who WILL drive 4000+ Km to
come and see you
and discuss it face to face,(if you are lucky). and
finding people can require
some time and effort but it aint that hard!"
[Date: 12 May 2004]
n***@myway.com
2005-07-13 05:07:59 UTC
Permalink
PLAINTIFF ROBERT GRIFFIN ***@gmail.com wrote:

> Awwww. Too bad for PMS that I have a copy of the post.

You think I really care, Robert? It's interesting to see you spend all
your time and cash on a kooksuit.

So tell us all how much you have spent so far, ROBERT GRIFFIN? My guess
is about $10K? If not, it will be about that when the case is done, and
it's cash you cannot collect, kooksuit boi.

See you in court, kooksuit boi :D
a***@gmail.com
2005-07-13 16:39:33 UTC
Permalink
EVER A MORON in 2005, PATRICK MICHAEL SULLIVAN, self-confessed car and
boat thief, being sued for cyber stalking in the Supreme Court of
British Columbia in Case S42823, barfed more nonsense:


> You think I really care, Robert?

Of course you do, scumbag.

It's why you refused to be served with papers.

It's why you stupidly skipped work for a day to nuke your filthy
posting history under ***@myway.com from Google Groups in the
belief it would stay hidden.

Too bad for you it is all saved -- as is the <***@canada.com>
babbling.

As is all the bilge you cannot nuke because the free accounts you used
to barf it from have all been ToS'ed.

As is all of Juarez's XNA abuse.

Yeah, kookboi, you're scared -- scared of being accountable for the
lies you post about people and don't have the balls to defend.
Tremendous Wang
2005-07-13 18:04:58 UTC
Permalink
In article <***@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
***@gmail.com says...
>
>EVER A MORON in 2005, PATRICK MICHAEL SULLIVAN, self-confessed car and
>boat thief, being sued for cyber stalking in the Supreme Court of
>British Columbia in Case S42823, barfed more nonsense:
>
>
>> You think I really care, Robert?
>
>Of course you do, scumbag.
>
>It's why you refused to be served with papers.
>
>It's why you stupidly skipped work for a day to nuke your filthy
>posting history under ***@myway.com from Google Groups in the
>belief it would stay hidden.
>
>Too bad for you it is all saved -- as is the <***@canada.com>
>babbling.

It doesn't really matter if he sent cancels, all posts, even ones with
x-no-archive headers are still on Google's servers, available to anyone with a
court order.
~ vera ~
2005-07-13 22:12:53 UTC
Permalink
Tremendous Wang <***@wang.com> wrote:
> In article <***@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> ***@gmail.com says...
>>
>> EVER A MORON in 2005, PATRICK MICHAEL SULLIVAN, self-confessed car
>> and boat thief, being sued for cyber stalking in the Supreme Court of
>> British Columbia in Case S42823, barfed more nonsense:
>>
>>
>>> You think I really care, Robert?
>>
>> Of course you do, scumbag.
>>
>> It's why you refused to be served with papers.
>>
>> It's why you stupidly skipped work for a day to nuke your filthy
>> posting history under ***@myway.com from Google Groups in
>> the belief it would stay hidden.
>>
>> Too bad for you it is all saved -- as is the <***@canada.com>
>> babbling.
>
> It doesn't really matter if he sent cancels, all posts, even ones with
> x-no-archive headers are still on Google's servers, available to
> anyone with a court order.

That will be bad for Patrick Michael Sullivan, TW.

And he let me know he did not go to work for a whole day just to cancel
all the posts!

Vanity of vanities, says the preacher, vanity of vanities! All is
vanity. (Ecclesiastes 1:2 MKJV)

~ vera ~
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~ http://www.acc-growing-deeper.de ~
~ http://www.acc-growing-deeper.de/Israel.htm ~
~ http://www.acc-growing-deeper.de/brokenhearts.htm ~
~ http://www.e-sword.net ~
n***@myway.com
2005-07-14 04:31:22 UTC
Permalink
~ vera ~ wrote:
> Tremendous Wang <***@wang.com> wrote:
> > In article <***@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> > ***@gmail.com says...
> >>
> >> EVER A MORON in 2005, PATRICK MICHAEL SULLIVAN, self-confessed car
> >> and boat thief, being sued for cyber stalking in the Supreme Court of
> >> British Columbia in Case S42823, barfed more nonsense:
> >>
> >>
> >>> You think I really care, Robert?
> >>
> >> Of course you do, scumbag.
> >>
> >> It's why you refused to be served with papers.
> >>
> >> It's why you stupidly skipped work for a day to nuke your filthy
> >> posting history under ***@myway.com from Google Groups in
> >> the belief it would stay hidden.
> >>
> >> Too bad for you it is all saved -- as is the <***@canada.com>
> >> babbling.
> >
> > It doesn't really matter if he sent cancels, all posts, even ones with
> > x-no-archive headers are still on Google's servers, available to
> > anyone with a court order.
>
> That will be bad for Patrick Michael Sullivan, TW.

No it won't. I said not nearly enough. The rest will come out later in
court, believe me. Now it's my turn.

> And he let me know he did not go to work for a whole day just to cancel
> all the posts!

Good lord, Vera Six. You certainly are a bold two-faced liar, aren't
you?

What low levels will you really stoop too? Now I know that you have
been communicating with Griffin, as he has been throwing about the same
lies that you have been, you godless demon.
~ vera ~
2005-07-14 07:20:56 UTC
Permalink
***@myway.com wrote:
> ~ vera ~ wrote:
>> Tremendous Wang <***@wang.com> wrote:
>>> In article <***@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
>>> ***@gmail.com says...
>>>>
>>>> EVER A MORON in 2005, PATRICK MICHAEL SULLIVAN, self-confessed car
>>>> and boat thief, being sued for cyber stalking in the Supreme Court
>>>> of British Columbia in Case S42823, barfed more nonsense:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> You think I really care, Robert?
>>>>
>>>> Of course you do, scumbag.
>>>>
>>>> It's why you refused to be served with papers.
>>>>
>>>> It's why you stupidly skipped work for a day to nuke your filthy
>>>> posting history under ***@myway.com from Google Groups in
>>>> the belief it would stay hidden.
>>>>
>>>> Too bad for you it is all saved -- as is the
>>>> <***@canada.com> babbling.
>>>
>>> It doesn't really matter if he sent cancels, all posts, even ones
>>> with x-no-archive headers are still on Google's servers, available
>>> to anyone with a court order.
>>
>> That will be bad for Patrick Michael Sullivan, TW.
>
> No it won't. I said not nearly enough. The rest will come out later in
> court, believe me. Now it's my turn.
>
>> And he let me know he did not go to work for a whole day just to
>> cancel all the posts!
>
> Good lord, Vera Six. You certainly are a bold two-faced liar, aren't
> you?

But didn't you say so on the phone?

Did I misunderstand you somehow?

Did you delete posts?


> What low levels will you really stoop too? Now I know that you have
> been communicating with Griffin, as he has been throwing about the
> same lies that you have been, you godless demon.
a***@gmail.com
2005-07-14 05:35:36 UTC
Permalink
Tremendous Wang wrote:


> It doesn't really matter if he sent cancels, all posts, even ones with
> x-no-archive headers are still on Google's servers, available to anyone with a
> court order.

Awww! You let the cat outta the bag... (hehehehe...)
n***@myway.com
2005-07-14 04:38:40 UTC
Permalink
***@gmail.com wrote:

> It's why you stupidly skipped work for a day to nuke your filthy
> posting history under ***@myway.com from Google Groups in the
> belief it would stay hidden.

Ah, I see now. Vera Six has just stated some crap about this. I was
wondering who was feeding you lies and bull shit. I get it. It's Vera,
the so-called Christian.

> Yeah, kookboi, you're scared -- scared of being accountable for the
> lies you post about people and don't have the balls to defend.

Oh, I will be there, stalker boi. Will you? You won't, will you? That's
right, Robert. You won't. You will hide. Or you will hide under the
skirt of your lawyer. And it figures. It's going to look bad if you do
not show for your own lawsuit, Robert. You should attend. I would like
to meet with you :D
n***@myway.com
2005-07-14 04:56:27 UTC
Permalink
***@gmail.com wrote:

> The kook Patrick Michael Sullivan already posted a portion of it's
> lame, stupid, full-of-lies Statement of 'Defense' then cowardly
> cancelled the post.
>
> Awwww. Too bad for PMS that I have a copy of the post.
>
> See?

Do you think I really care, ROBERT GRIFFIN? I don't. Explain to the
court your latest harassment of us all, kooksuit boi. It looks bad,
Robert, really bad.

Do show up for court, kooksuit boi :D
Troy
2005-07-12 23:21:40 UTC
Permalink
Get a life geeks.....we don't care !!!!!




<***@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:***@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> EVER A MORON in 2005, PATRICK MICHAEL SULLIVAN, self-confessed car and
> boat thief, being sued for cyber stalking in the Supreme Court of
> British Columbia in Case S42823, whined and froths more than a Guinness
> poured by a trainee barmaid while doing it's kooky meltdown when caught
> lying, *again*,
>
>
>> Excuse me, you FAT FUCK.
>
>
> "Fat Fuck"? Isn't that what Big Bad JT calls you? Isn't he the guy you
> stalked for years, outed to the Holocaust revisionalists, and then
> wanted to fist fight... and *you* were then a no-show, PATRICK MICHAEL
> SULLIVAN?
>
> Isn't "fat fuck" a play on "Fat Pat"?
>
> Is "Fat Pat" one of your 100+ aliases, PATRICK MICHAEL SULLIVAN?
>
> Like ***@aol.com ?
>
> AOL? Whooops!
> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/van.general/msg/eb96107b4acffb63?hl=en&
>
> Was that you posting that message, PATRICK MICHAEL SULLIVAN? Does your
> family practice law? Or does someone *with a name like yours practice
> law* and a Nanaimo cyber stalker wanted to mislead people like only a
> car and boat thief would?
>
> I will never excuse you, or anything you did to me, and to the others
> you have smeared, stalked, threatened, and libeled.
>
>
>
>
>> But YOU posted my NAME, TELEPHONE NUMBER
>
> Uh oh... when PATRICK MICHAEL SULLIVAN speaks, it reeks of Excrement Of
> Bovine!
>
> Patrick Michael Sullivan on 17 Nov 2003 03:04:21 GMT in
> <***@posting.google.com> :
>
> "My number is up on my site. Reverse look up the number and tell me if
> I am a fake. With the reverse look up you will get my home address, as
> well. I have nothing to hide, unlike you, Pym."
>
>
>
> You weren't even replying to me then, you stupid lying scumbag. And you
> said you had nothing to hide, scumbag. So what are you whining about,
> you flip-flopping flim-flam fruitcake?
>
> You outed *yourself*.
>
>
>
>
>> *YOU* pin pointed my location.
>
> Patrick Michael Sullivan did it to itself. See above.
>
>
>
>
>
>> But NO ONE DID THAT TO YOU, did they?
>
> Not from your lack of trying, scumbag!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> You specifically identified my location and posted info about me in a
>> defamatory fashion in an attempt to humiliate me and ruin my life.
>
> Whooops! Evem more Excrement Of Bovine from PATRICK MICHAEL SULLIVAN!
>
> PATRICK MICHAEL SULLIVAN on 3 Nov 2003 00:39:20 GMT, in
> Message-ID: <***@mb-m15.aol.com>
>
> "I could not give one-shit about what others think of me, or say of me.
> If I did, I would have been dead years ago. It's all water under the
> bridge, ya know? My life is a "cup of salt water taken from the ocean"
> - meaning, if that cup was taken, no one would know it was here and
> gone."
>
> and
>
> "It's all dots and digits on my monitor and it has no bearing in "real
> life"."
>
>
>
> PATRICK MICHAEL SULLIVAN on 19 Nov 2003 01:02:30 GMT, in Message-ID:
> <***@mb-m15.aol.com>
>
> "And as far as being a convicted felon goes, I couldn't care less what
> other people think or say of me."
>
>
>
> PATRICK MICHAEL SULLIVAN on 19 Nov 2003 01:55:15 GMT, in Message-ID:
> <***@mb-m15.aol.com> :
>
> "I said I don't care what other people think of me. I know who I am
> and that's all that matters to me in this world. What others say or
> think of me means nothing to me. Why should it? If I were to live
> like that, I may as well be dead."
>
>
> Well, PATRICK MICHAEL SULLIVAN, looks like your big kook spew is kinda
> negated by all that above, doesn't it?
>
> Bwhahahahahaha!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> No one outed you, ROBERT GRIFFIN.
>
> You did, you stupid liar in denial.
>
> Stop lying about it.
>
> Nah, on second thought: keep lying, kook; get yourself into more
> trouble -- your usual moronic modus operandi.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> BTW! If you ever have the guts to show up here
>
> Is it true you are a gutless coward afraid of *a piece of paper*
> PATRICK MICHAEL SULLIVAN?
>
> Knock! Knock!
>
> Bwhahahaha!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> See me face to face. Stand up like a man. Quit hiding. Show some back
>> bone.
>
> Why don't you answer the front door, PATRICK MICHAEL SULLIVAN?
>
> Surely you're not afraid of a piece of paper, are you, you <sarc> big
> brave man? </sarc>
>
>
>
>
>
> Then comes the King Pong PATRICK MICHAEL SULLIVAN Fist Fight Challenge:
>
>> To hide any longer only confirms
>> in my mind and the minds of others that you are truly a PHYSICAL
>> COWARD.
>
> Viper, JT from van.general, and Red Corsair: are you reading this from
> PATRICK MICHAEL SULLIVAN?
>
> Hemlock and Broadway all over again?
>
> Has someone been trying to give you something for the last week, "Ping
> Mail Inbox"?
>
> Ping Mail Inbox!
> Ping Mail Inbox!
> Ping Mail Inbox!
>
> Bling! You have email, kook!
>
>
>
>> See you in court, if you have the guts, short ass!
>
> Says a kook afraid of a piece of paper?
>
> BWhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: ***@myway.com
> Newsgroups:
> alt.suicide.holiday,alt.religion.christianity,alt.christnet.christianlife,alt.bible
> Subject: ROBERT GRIFFIN wants to see "outing". Well here ya go, ROBERT
> GRIFFIN AKA MAGNUS PYM!
> Date: 11 Jul 2005 07:14:47 -0700
> Organization: http://groups.google.com
> Lines: 151
> Message-ID: <***@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
> References: <***@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
> <***@individual.net>
> <***@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
> <***@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.200.131.67
> Mime-Version: 1.0
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> X-Trace: posting.google.com 1121091293 14174 127.0.0.1 (11 Jul 2005
> 14:14:53 GMT)
> X-Complaints-To: groups-***@google.com
> NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 14:14:53 +0000 (UTC)
> User-Agent: G2/0.2
> Complaints-To: groups-***@google.com
> Injection-Info: g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com;
> posting-host=207.200.131.67;
> posting-account=0ykVYg0AAABK3IiQMFFbNxkX1ARrWSdH
>
> Excuse me, you FAT FUCK. But YOU posted my NAME, TELEPHONE NUMBER, HOME
> ADDRESS and other stuff about me and others on ASH for the world to see
> and then you smeared me and other with lies and libel, you FAT UGLY
> SHORT LITTLE TWERP. Now who did the above to you? Who posted your home
> address, huh? NO ONE!
>
> *YOU* pin pointed my location. But NO ONE DID THAT TO YOU, did they?
> You specifically identified my location and posted info about me in a
> defamatory fashion in an attempt to humiliate me and ruin my life. And
> the pin pointing of my location also allowed other people to stalk and
> harass me. And you, ROBERT GRIFFIN, are going to pay for your years of
> fucking stalking and harassment against myself and others. Because I
> had people send threats to me after you posted my contact info. I had
> strangers telephone me, some were nice, some were not. I did not want
> that info posted on ASH, especially in a defamatory and HARASSING
> fashion. And your actions were CYBER STALKING and CRIMINAL HARASSMENT,
> you fat little shit.
>
> No one outed you, ROBERT GRIFFIN. No one posted your home address PIN
> POINTING your location, like you did to us, did they? The name ROBERT
> GRIFFIN and MAGNUS PYM don't mean a damn thing without an address
> attached, you stoopid fat fuck. How many Robert Griffin's are there in
> the world or even in AU? But there is only one *ME* at the address you
> published of myself.
>
> You outed me with contact info attached and you posted lies and
> harassment of me, you short, fat little shit. I could not give a shit
> what the time stamps state, because often they can be wrong and so can
> you. No one here that I know of ever posted your name here without it
> first being posted by you, cyber stalker.
>
> BTW! If you ever have the guts to show up here for you Ko0ksuit, then
> do so. I want to see you FACE TO FACE. But from what a lady here
> stated, you probably don't have the guts to do that. Rather, you just
> cry and blubber over the phone like a little boy.
>
> Come to your ko0ksuit, Robert. See me face to face. Stand up like a
> man. Quit hiding. Show some back bone. To hide any longer only confirms
> in my mind and the minds of others that you are truly a PHYSICAL
> COWARD.
>
> In the meanwhile, yes, there is an investigation going on about you. As
> I said previously, don't take this as a joke, ROBERT GRIFFIN. A few of
> us want you charged for various cyber crimes and stalking, because you
> fucked up our lives.
>
> HOW MANY TIMES DID YOU POST MY HOME ADDRESS AND NAME ON USENET, YOU
> COCK SUCKER?
>
> See you in court, if you have the guts, short ass!
>
> ***@gmail.com wrote:
>> Anyone looking for a new fool?
>>
>> > ~ vera ~ wrote:
>> > > I do not believe you a word.
>> > >
>> > > At what time exactly shall RG have "outed" himself on that Dec 29th,
>> > > 2003?
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> > What an idiot.
>>
>> Path: uni-berlin.de!fu-berlin.de!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail
>> From: ***@hotmail.com (Hedges Sofa #1)
>> Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday,alt.suicide.methods
>> Subject: Regarding Magnus Pym AKA Robert Griffin and His Hatred of
>> Women
>> Date: 29 Dec 2003 13:36:49 -0800
>> Organization: http://groups.google.com
>> Lines: 107
>> Message-ID: <***@posting.google.com>
>> NNTP-Posting-Host: 172.149.12.26
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
>> X-Trace: posting.google.com 1072733810 25563 127.0.0.1 (29 Dec 2003
>> 21:36:50 GMT)
>> X-Complaints-To: groups-***@google.com
>> NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 21:36:50 +0000 (UTC)
>> Xref: uni-berlin.de alt.suicide.holiday:352690
>> alt.suicide.methods:30244
>>
>>
>> Let's see. Reading the time of the above post in GMT: PATRICK MICHAEL
>> SULLIVAN outed me at 21:36.50 -- some 20 minutes *before* I had
>> responded with the alleged "outing [my]self" post at 08:57:45 +1100...
>>
>> Do basic mathematics, plus a dateline conversion:
>>
>> My post was at 21:57.45 GMT!
>>
>> The outing was at 16:36.50 in The Zone Of The Black Hole Of Truth!
>>
>> Uh oh!
>>
>> Notice the name in the subject?
>>
>> In the subject header?
>>
>> Posted by one email address of over 100 legally proven ones used by
>> PATRICK MICHAEL SULLIVAN?
>>
>> Notice the AOL IP address in the header -- the IP address that traces
>> to an account used by PATRICK MICHAEL SULLIVAN?
>>
>> Uh oh!
>>
>> Guess someone better go "Looking For A New Fool", eh?
>>
>> Oh dear, oh my.... someone's little flopsy rabbit has been caught lying
>> for a stalker... again.
>>
>> Oh dear... oh my... the same stalker, ever a moron, who thought
>> skipping work for a day to nuke it's filthy posting history would pay
>> off...
>>
>> > What an idiot.
>>
>> Bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Let's see. In my time zone, it was at 1659. Notice his real name
>> > below? In the email header? Right next to the email address that he
>> > uses at times? Notice the primus.au IP address in the header?
>> >
>> > Don't be a fool.
>> >
>> >
>> > From: Bob Griffin <***@hotmail.com>
>> > Newsgroups:
>> > alt.suicide.holiday,alt.usenet.kooks,alt.suicide.methods,van.general,can.legal
>> > Subject: [PREDATOR PATRICK SULLIVAN] Re: i ruined a perfectly good life
>> > - mine
>> > Followup-To: alt.usenet.kooks
>> > Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003 08:57:45 +1100
>> > Organization: nil
>> > Lines: 52
>> > Message-ID: <***@hotmail.com>
>> > References: <bs7sbo$9r0$***@newsmaster.cc.columbia.edu>
>> > <***@mb-m01.aol.com>
>> > NNTP-Posting-Host: 036.a.001.gsf.iprimus.net.au (210.50.154.36)
>> > Mime-Version: 1.0
>> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
>> > X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1072735151 336908 210.50.154.36 ([99621])
>> > X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U)
>> > X-Accept-Language: en
>
a***@gmail.com
2005-07-12 23:59:14 UTC
Permalink
Troy wrote:

> Get a life geeks.....we don't care !!!!!

Oh. I thought van.general may be amused to know that one of it's worst
abusers had "melted down", i.e. "Fat Pat".

No? OK. In that case, I'll shutup.
Troy
2005-07-13 00:32:37 UTC
Permalink
<***@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:***@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
> Troy wrote:
>
>> Get a life geeks.....we don't care !!!!!
>
> Oh. I thought van.general may be amused to know that one of it's worst
> abusers had "melted down", i.e. "Fat Pat".
>
> No? OK. In that case, I'll shutup.
>


GOOD !!!!!!
n***@myway.com
2005-07-13 00:49:13 UTC
Permalink
ROBERT GRIFFIN ***@gmail.com wrote:

> You weren't even replying to me then, you stupid lying scumbag. And you
> said you had nothing to hide, scumbag. So what are you whining about,
> you flip-flopping flim-flam fruitcake?
>
> You outed *yourself*.

Pymp, you also outed a Patrick Sullivan on Wentworth st. remember? What
did he have to do with ASH? And the Patrick Sullivan on Overlook dr.?
Same thing, bobby boi.

You can take a name from the phone book and post it on Usenet. But if
you were to spew a bunch of lies and harassment of that name, you would
be in shit, Robert Griffin. And that is what you did to us, correct?
You have pushed your harassment of many people here far beyond what is
acceptable, ROBERT GRIFFIN.

BTW, your process server did not identify himself. I had no idea who he
was. For all I know, he could have been WRATHFLY. He simply placed a
piece of paper on my windscreen as I was leaving for work. I went after
him and he said a few swear words to me and he quickly jumped in his
van and rolled up his window half way and hid. I have never seen a fat
man move so fast. If I had a wrench in my hand, it may have very well
went through his window, because he was such a loser with an attitude,
kinda like you. However, tossing a wrench thru someone's window is
illegal, so I am not allowed to do that. But instead, the creep took
off, and he had the papers stuck to the hood of his van in the pouring
rain that morning, after I tried to throw whatever it was in his face.
Well, papers not being very aerodynamic they ended up flying about and
landed on his hood, as I stated. I guess when the slob reached the
highway and began to pick up speed, the papers no doubt crept up onto
his windscreen. Surprise! Later that day, fat boi snuck back into the
building and slipped them under my door when I was away at work again.

BTW, that same fat slob of a process server had tried to get into my
building 3 times previous to that, according to someone else. Each
time, I was at work. Don't these guy work nights?

I hope you show up for your kook suit, Bobby boi :D But something tells
me you don't have the guts to ever see someone you have harassed from
Usenet face to face, right? Right. Like a lady here said, you would
prolly just blubber and vomit.

See ya in court, "pymp"! :D
Tremendous Wang
2005-07-13 01:17:38 UTC
Permalink
In article <***@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
***@myway.com says...
>
> If I had a wrench in my hand, it may have very well
>went through his window,

I hope someone remembers to bring a copy of this post to the trial.
n***@myway.com
2005-07-13 01:20:37 UTC
Permalink
Tremendous Wang wrote:
> In article <***@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> ***@myway.com says...
> >
> > If I had a wrench in my hand, it may have very well
> >went through his window,
>
> I hope someone remembers to bring a copy of this post to the trial.

I hope they do, too :D
a***@gmail.com
2005-07-13 02:56:36 UTC
Permalink
Tremendous Wang wrote:


> In article <***@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> ***@myway.com says...
> >
> > If I had a wrench in my hand, it may have very well
> >went through his window,
>
> I hope someone remembers to bring a copy of this post to the trial.

Count on it. :D

But the funniest thing is right here:

"But something tells me you don't have the guts to ever see someone you
have harassed from Usenet face to face, right?"

What's this crap about not showing up somewhere? Three words:

Hemlock and Broadway.

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/van.general/msg/a1904992bd837d6b?hl=en&

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA!
a***@gmail.com
2005-07-13 02:57:41 UTC
Permalink
Tremendous Wang wrote:


> In article <***@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> ***@myway.com says...
> >
> > If I had a wrench in my hand, it may have very well
> >went through his window,
>
> I hope someone remembers to bring a copy of this post to the trial.

Count on it. :D

But the funniest thing is right here:

"But something tells me you don't have the guts to ever see someone you
have harassed from Usenet face to face, right?"

What's this crap about not showing up somewhere? Three words:

Hemlock and Broadway.

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/van.general/msg/a1904992bd837d6b?hl=en&

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA!
n***@myway.com
2005-07-13 04:48:31 UTC
Permalink
***@gmail.com wrote:
> Tremendous Wang wrote:
>
>
> > In article <***@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> > ***@myway.com says...
> > >
> > > If I had a wrench in my hand, it may have very well
> > >went through his window,
> >
> > I hope someone remembers to bring a copy of this post to the trial.
>
> Count on it. :D
>
> But the funniest thing is right here:
>
> "But something tells me you don't have the guts to ever see someone you
> have harassed from Usenet face to face, right?"
>
> What's this crap about not showing up somewhere? Three words:
>
> Hemlock and Broadway.
>
> http://groups-beta.google.com/group/van.general/msg/a1904992bd837d6b?hl=en&
>
> BWHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA!

Hey, kooksuit boi. I invited Jerry to my home. He never did show up. I
invited you, too. You never came either, coward kooksuit boi! :D

I bet you won't show up for your kooksuit either. I guess that means I
get to put all on record and you won't be there to defend yourself,
little man.

Bye, bye, little pymmy.
a***@gmail.com
2005-07-13 05:03:16 UTC
Permalink
EVER A MORON in 2005, PATRICK MICHAEL SULLIVAN, self-confessed car and
boat thief, being sued for cyber stalking in the Supreme Court of
British Columbia in Case S42823, is still lying:


> ***@gmail.com wrote:
> > Tremendous Wang wrote:
> >
> >
> > > In article <***@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
> > > ***@myway.com says...
> > > >
> > > > If I had a wrench in my hand, it may have very well
> > > >went through his window,
> > >
> > > I hope someone remembers to bring a copy of this post to the trial.
> >
> > Count on it. :D
> >
> > But the funniest thing is right here:
> >
> > "But something tells me you don't have the guts to ever see someone you
> > have harassed from Usenet face to face, right?"
> >
> > What's this crap about not showing up somewhere? Three words:
> >
> > Hemlock and Broadway.
> >
> > http://groups-beta.google.com/group/van.general/msg/a1904992bd837d6b?hl=en&
> >
> > BWHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA!
>
> Hey, kooksuit boi. I invited Jerry to my home.

The convicted car and boat thief and stalking liar is still being a
deceptive scumbag:


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>Subject: SURREY IS A BIG PLACE WHERE ARE YOU FAT FUCK?
>From: ***@AOL.COM (Sullivan Alert)
>Date: 8/18/2003 11:34 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <2yj0b.802409$***@new­s1.calgary.shaw.ca>

>STOP TEASING. TIME FOR BROKEN BONES



Laughing My Ass Off!

You could not fight yer way out of a wet cardboard box, Jeremy Tolsma.

Meet me on Hemlock and Broadway at 3:00 PM, tomorrow, OK? See you
then.

Other than that, I am off to Wendy's for a BIGGIE SIZE meal and a quiet
nap.

Nighty-night, little Tolsma girly-boy ;)

Fatpat!
a***@gmail.com
2005-07-13 02:41:00 UTC
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EVER A MORON in 2005, PATRICK MICHAEL SULLIVAN, self-confessed car and
boat thief, being sued for cyber stalking in the Supreme Court of
British Columbia in Case S42823, babbled to teh kooknet about how the
coward tried to avoid being served with a Writ:


From: ***@myway.com
Newsgroups:
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ROBERT GRIFFIN ***@gmail.com wrote:

> You weren't even replying to me then, you stupid lying scumbag. And you
> said you had nothing to hide, scumbag. So what are you whining about,
> you flip-flopping flim-flam fruitcake?
>
> You outed *yourself*.

Pymp, you also outed a Patrick Sullivan on Wentworth st. remember? What
did he have to do with ASH? And the Patrick Sullivan on Overlook dr.?
Same thing, bobby boi.

You can take a name from the phone book and post it on Usenet. But if
you were to spew a bunch of lies and harassment of that name, you would
be in shit, Robert Griffin. And that is what you did to us, correct?
You have pushed your harassment of many people here far beyond what is
acceptable, ROBERT GRIFFIN.

BTW, your process server did not identify himself. I had no idea who he
was. For all I know, he could have been WRATHFLY. He simply placed a
piece of paper on my windscreen as I was leaving for work. I went after
him and he said a few swear words to me and he quickly jumped in his
van and rolled up his window half way and hid. I have never seen a fat
man move so fast. If I had a wrench in my hand, it may have very well
went through his window, because he was such a loser with an attitude,
kinda like you. However, tossing a wrench thru someone's window is
illegal, so I am not allowed to do that. But instead, the creep took
off, and he had the papers stuck to the hood of his van in the pouring
rain that morning, after I tried to throw whatever it was in his face.
Well, papers not being very aerodynamic they ended up flying about and
landed on his hood, as I stated. I guess when the slob reached the
highway and began to pick up speed, the papers no doubt crept up onto
his windscreen. Surprise! Later that day, fat boi snuck back into the
building and slipped them under my door when I was away at work again.

BTW, that same fat slob of a process server had tried to get into my
building 3 times previous to that, according to someone else. Each
time, I was at work. Don't these guy work nights?

I hope you show up for your kook suit, Bobby boi :D But something tells
me you don't have the guts to ever see someone you have harassed from
Usenet face to face, right? Right. Like a lady here said, you would
prolly just blubber and vomit.

See ya in court, "pymp"! :D
n***@myway.com
2005-07-13 05:00:52 UTC
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***@gmail.com wrote:
> EVER A MORON in 2005, PATRICK MICHAEL SULLIVAN, self-confessed car and
> boat thief, being sued for cyber stalking in the Supreme Court of
> British Columbia in Case S42823, babbled to teh kooknet about how the
> coward tried to avoid being served with a Writ:

Hey, pymp. Come to your kooksuit. And it seems your process server was
a bit of a coward like you, the the way he scurried his fat ass into
his van after he said "FUCK YOU", then rolled up the window and hid
when I went after him to see who he was and what he wanted leaving a
letter on my auto. Then as he was driving down the street he got
couragous again and hurled some utterances out the window of his van.

It really appears that even the people you have do your filthy bidding
are fat little cowards like you too.

Hey, Robert? Remember these words regarding you?

"I remember him calling me in November crying over the phone, so upset
that he was puking. I can't see him having the courage to actually
face you..."

Show up for you kook suit boi, Robert Griffin :D



> From: ***@myway.com
> Newsgroups:
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> ROBERT GRIFFIN ***@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > You weren't even replying to me then, you stupid lying scumbag. And you
> > said you had nothing to hide, scumbag. So what are you whining about,
> > you flip-flopping flim-flam fruitcake?
> >
> > You outed *yourself*.
>
> Pymp, you also outed a Patrick Sullivan on Wentworth st. remember? What
> did he have to do with ASH? And the Patrick Sullivan on Overlook dr.?
> Same thing, bobby boi.
>
> You can take a name from the phone book and post it on Usenet. But if
> you were to spew a bunch of lies and harassment of that name, you would
> be in shit, Robert Griffin. And that is what you did to us, correct?
> You have pushed your harassment of many people here far beyond what is
> acceptable, ROBERT GRIFFIN.
>
> BTW, your process server did not identify himself. I had no idea who he
> was. For all I know, he could have been WRATHFLY. He simply placed a
> piece of paper on my windscreen as I was leaving for work. I went after
> him and he said a few swear words to me and he quickly jumped in his
> van and rolled up his window half way and hid. I have never seen a fat
> man move so fast. If I had a wrench in my hand, it may have very well
> went through his window, because he was such a loser with an attitude,
> kinda like you. However, tossing a wrench thru someone's window is
> illegal, so I am not allowed to do that. But instead, the creep took
> off, and he had the papers stuck to the hood of his van in the pouring
> rain that morning, after I tried to throw whatever it was in his face.
> Well, papers not being very aerodynamic they ended up flying about and
> landed on his hood, as I stated. I guess when the slob reached the
> highway and began to pick up speed, the papers no doubt crept up onto
> his windscreen. Surprise! Later that day, fat boi snuck back into the
> building and slipped them under my door when I was away at work again.
>
> BTW, that same fat slob of a process server had tried to get into my
> building 3 times previous to that, according to someone else. Each
> time, I was at work. Don't these guy work nights?
>
> I hope you show up for your kook suit, Bobby boi :D But something tells
> me you don't have the guts to ever see someone you have harassed from
> Usenet face to face, right? Right. Like a lady here said, you would
> prolly just blubber and vomit.
>
> See ya in court, "pymp"! :D
B L O U
2005-07-13 07:38:00 UTC
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***@myway.com writes:

> ***@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> EVER A MORON in 2005, PATRICK MICHAEL SULLIVAN, self-confessed car
>> and boat thief, being sued for cyber stalking in the Supreme Court
>> of British Columbia in Case S42823, babbled to teh kooknet about
>> how the coward tried to avoid being served with a Writ:

<snip>

> Hey, Robert? Remember these words regarding you?
>
> "I remember him calling me in November crying over the phone, so upset
> that he was puking. I can't see him having the courage to actually
> face you..."

:)) fucking comedy :))
g***@vcn.bc.ca
2005-07-13 15:41:10 UTC
Permalink
If you're really suing him for cyberstalking, all these posts from you can
easily be used by him to show that it's just a typical Usenet kook-exchange,
meaning nothing!

If you have a suit against him and you hope it to be effective, STFU!!!

Because I care,

|<+]::-( ("Cyberpope," the Bishop of ROM!)

(Please quote with "gapope wrote...")
-=-
In essentials, unity;
In non-essentials, liberty;
in all things, charity. -- Baxter quoting Augustine
-=-

PS This post specially encoded for verification purposes


***@gmail.com wrote:
> EVER A MORON in 2005, PATRICK MICHAEL SULLIVAN, self-confessed car and
> boat thief, being sued for cyber stalking in the Supreme Court of
> British Columbia in Case S42823, babbled to teh kooknet about how the
> coward tried to avoid being served with a Writ:
>
>
> From: ***@myway.com
> Newsgroups:
> alt.suicide.holiday,alt.religion.christianity,alt.christnet.christianlife,
> neral,alt.usenet.kooks
> Subject: Robert Griffin and his kook suit.
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> ROBERT GRIFFIN ***@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > You weren't even replying to me then, you stupid lying scumbag. And you
> > said you had nothing to hide, scumbag. So what are you whining about,
> > you flip-flopping flim-flam fruitcake?
> >
> > You outed *yourself*.
>
> Pymp, you also outed a Patrick Sullivan on Wentworth st. remember? What
> did he have to do with ASH? And the Patrick Sullivan on Overlook dr.?
> Same thing, bobby boi.
>
> You can take a name from the phone book and post it on Usenet. But if
> you were to spew a bunch of lies and harassment of that name, you would
> be in shit, Robert Griffin. And that is what you did to us, correct?
> You have pushed your harassment of many people here far beyond what is
> acceptable, ROBERT GRIFFIN.
>
> BTW, your process server did not identify himself. I had no idea who he
> was. For all I know, he could have been WRATHFLY. He simply placed a
> piece of paper on my windscreen as I was leaving for work. I went after
> him and he said a few swear words to me and he quickly jumped in his
> van and rolled up his window half way and hid. I have never seen a fat
> man move so fast. If I had a wrench in my hand, it may have very well
> went through his window, because he was such a loser with an attitude,
> kinda like you. However, tossing a wrench thru someone's window is
> illegal, so I am not allowed to do that. But instead, the creep took
> off, and he had the papers stuck to the hood of his van in the pouring
> rain that morning, after I tried to throw whatever it was in his face.
> Well, papers not being very aerodynamic they ended up flying about and
> landed on his hood, as I stated. I guess when the slob reached the
> highway and began to pick up speed, the papers no doubt crept up onto
> his windscreen. Surprise! Later that day, fat boi snuck back into the
> building and slipped them under my door when I was away at work again.
>
> BTW, that same fat slob of a process server had tried to get into my
> building 3 times previous to that, according to someone else. Each
> time, I was at work. Don't these guy work nights?
>
> I hope you show up for your kook suit, Bobby boi :D But something tells
> me you don't have the guts to ever see someone you have harassed from
> Usenet face to face, right? Right. Like a lady here said, you would
> prolly just blubber and vomit.
>
> See ya in court, "pymp"! :D
>
--
.
from gapope(at)vcn(dot)bc(dot)ca << Official Reply Address for Usenet Post
.
Troy
2005-07-13 18:01:36 UTC
Permalink
These guys don't know how to STFU this is what got them into all this mess.


<***@vcn.bc.ca> wrote in message news:db3cmm$jph$***@vcn.bc.ca...
> If you're really suing him for cyberstalking, all these posts from you can
> easily be used by him to show that it's just a typical Usenet
kook-exchange,
> meaning nothing!
>
> If you have a suit against him and you hope it to be effective, STFU!!!
>
> Because I care,
>
> |<+]::-( ("Cyberpope," the Bishop of ROM!)
>
> (Please quote with "gapope wrote...")
> -=-
> In essentials, unity;
> In non-essentials, liberty;
> in all things, charity. -- Baxter quoting Augustine
> -=-
>
> PS This post specially encoded for verification purposes
>
>
> ***@gmail.com wrote:
> > EVER A MORON in 2005, PATRICK MICHAEL SULLIVAN, self-confessed car and
> > boat thief, being sued for cyber stalking in the Supreme Court of
> > British Columbia in Case S42823, babbled to teh kooknet about how the
> > coward tried to avoid being served with a Writ:
> >
> >
> > From: ***@myway.com
> > Newsgroups:
> >
alt.suicide.holiday,alt.religion.christianity,alt.christnet.christianlife,
> > neral,alt.usenet.kooks
> > Subject: Robert Griffin and his kook suit.
> > Date: 12 Jul 2005 17:49:13 -0700
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> >
> > ROBERT GRIFFIN ***@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > > You weren't even replying to me then, you stupid lying scumbag. And
you
> > > said you had nothing to hide, scumbag. So what are you whining about,
> > > you flip-flopping flim-flam fruitcake?
> > >
> > > You outed *yourself*.
> >
> > Pymp, you also outed a Patrick Sullivan on Wentworth st. remember? What
> > did he have to do with ASH? And the Patrick Sullivan on Overlook dr.?
> > Same thing, bobby boi.
> >
> > You can take a name from the phone book and post it on Usenet. But if
> > you were to spew a bunch of lies and harassment of that name, you would
> > be in shit, Robert Griffin. And that is what you did to us, correct?
> > You have pushed your harassment of many people here far beyond what is
> > acceptable, ROBERT GRIFFIN.
> >
> > BTW, your process server did not identify himself. I had no idea who he
> > was. For all I know, he could have been WRATHFLY. He simply placed a
> > piece of paper on my windscreen as I was leaving for work. I went after
> > him and he said a few swear words to me and he quickly jumped in his
> > van and rolled up his window half way and hid. I have never seen a fat
> > man move so fast. If I had a wrench in my hand, it may have very well
> > went through his window, because he was such a loser with an attitude,
> > kinda like you. However, tossing a wrench thru someone's window is
> > illegal, so I am not allowed to do that. But instead, the creep took
> > off, and he had the papers stuck to the hood of his van in the pouring
> > rain that morning, after I tried to throw whatever it was in his face.
> > Well, papers not being very aerodynamic they ended up flying about and
> > landed on his hood, as I stated. I guess when the slob reached the
> > highway and began to pick up speed, the papers no doubt crept up onto
> > his windscreen. Surprise! Later that day, fat boi snuck back into the
> > building and slipped them under my door when I was away at work again.
> >
> > BTW, that same fat slob of a process server had tried to get into my
> > building 3 times previous to that, according to someone else. Each
> > time, I was at work. Don't these guy work nights?
> >
> > I hope you show up for your kook suit, Bobby boi :D But something tells
> > me you don't have the guts to ever see someone you have harassed from
> > Usenet face to face, right? Right. Like a lady here said, you would
> > prolly just blubber and vomit.
> >
> > See ya in court, "pymp"! :D
> >
> --
> .
> from gapope(at)vcn(dot)bc(dot)ca << Official Reply Address for Usenet Post
> .
>
g***@vcn.bc.ca
2005-07-14 15:01:20 UTC
Permalink
I hope the judge slaps them both with a hefty fine for wasting the court's
time!

Because I care,

|<+]::-( ("Cyberpope," the Bishop of ROM!)

(Please quote with "gapope wrote...")
-=-
In essentials, unity;
In non-essentials, liberty;
in all things, charity. -- Baxter quoting Augustine
-=-

PS This post specially encoded for verification purposes


"Troy" <alternate-***@shaw.ca> wrote:
"> These guys don't know how to STFU this is what got them into all this mess
">
">
"> <***@vcn.bc.ca> wrote in message news:db3cmm$jph$***@vcn.bc.ca...
"> > If you're really suing him for cyberstalking, all these posts from you c
"> > easily be used by him to show that it's just a typical Usenet
"> kook-exchange,
"> > meaning nothing!
"> >
"> > If you have a suit against him and you hope it to be effective, STFU!!!
"> >
"> > Because I care,
"> >
"> > |<+]::-( ("Cyberpope," the Bishop of ROM!)
"> >
"> > (Please quote with "gapope wrote...")
"> > -=-
"> > In essentials, unity;
"> > In non-essentials, liberty;
"> > in all things, charity. -- Baxter quoting Augustine
"> > -=-
"> >
"> > PS This post specially encoded for verification purposes
"> >
"> >
"> > ***@gmail.com wrote:
"> > > EVER A MORON in 2005, PATRICK MICHAEL SULLIVAN, self-confessed car and
"> > > boat thief, being sued for cyber stalking in the Supreme Court of
"> > > British Columbia in Case S42823, babbled to teh kooknet about how the
"> > > coward tried to avoid being served with a Writ:
"> > >
"> > >
"> > > From: ***@myway.com
"> > > Newsgroups:
"> > >
"> alt.suicide.holiday,alt.religion.christianity,alt.christnet.christianlife,
"> > > neral,alt.usenet.kooks
"> > > Subject: Robert Griffin and his kook suit.
"> > > Date: 12 Jul 2005 17:49:13 -0700
"> > > Organization: http://groups.google.com
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"> > > alt.religion.christianity:357412 alt.christnet.christianlife:538011
"> > > van.general:354473 alt.usenet.kooks:1112056
"> > >
"> > > ROBERT GRIFFIN ***@gmail.com wrote:
"> > >
"> > > > You weren't even replying to me then, you stupid lying scumbag. And
"> you
"> > > > said you had nothing to hide, scumbag. So what are you whining about
"> > > > you flip-flopping flim-flam fruitcake?
"> > > >
"> > > > You outed *yourself*.
"> > >
"> > > Pymp, you also outed a Patrick Sullivan on Wentworth st. remember? Wha
"> > > did he have to do with ASH? And the Patrick Sullivan on Overlook dr.?
"> > > Same thing, bobby boi.
"> > >
"> > > You can take a name from the phone book and post it on Usenet. But if
"> > > you were to spew a bunch of lies and harassment of that name, you woul
"> > > be in shit, Robert Griffin. And that is what you did to us, correct?
"> > > You have pushed your harassment of many people here far beyond what is
"> > > acceptable, ROBERT GRIFFIN.
"> > >
"> > > BTW, your process server did not identify himself. I had no idea who h
"> > > was. For all I know, he could have been WRATHFLY. He simply placed a
"> > > piece of paper on my windscreen as I was leaving for work. I went afte
"> > > him and he said a few swear words to me and he quickly jumped in his
"> > > van and rolled up his window half way and hid. I have never seen a fat
"> > > man move so fast. If I had a wrench in my hand, it may have very well
"> > > went through his window, because he was such a loser with an attitude,
"> > > kinda like you. However, tossing a wrench thru someone's window is
"> > > illegal, so I am not allowed to do that. But instead, the creep took
"> > > off, and he had the papers stuck to the hood of his van in the pouring
"> > > rain that morning, after I tried to throw whatever it was in his face.
"> > > Well, papers not being very aerodynamic they ended up flying about and
"> > > landed on his hood, as I stated. I guess when the slob reached the
"> > > highway and began to pick up speed, the papers no doubt crept up onto
"> > > his windscreen. Surprise! Later that day, fat boi snuck back into the
"> > > building and slipped them under my door when I was away at work again.
"> > >
"> > > BTW, that same fat slob of a process server had tried to get into my
"> > > building 3 times previous to that, according to someone else. Each
"> > > time, I was at work. Don't these guy work nights?
"> > >
"> > > I hope you show up for your kook suit, Bobby boi :D But something tell
"> > > me you don't have the guts to ever see someone you have harassed from
"> > > Usenet face to face, right? Right. Like a lady here said, you would
"> > > prolly just blubber and vomit.
"> > >
"> > > See ya in court, "pymp"! :D
"> > >
"> > --
"> > .
"> > from gapope(at)vcn(dot)bc(dot)ca << Official Reply Address for Usenet Po
"> > .
"> >
">
">
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Tremendous Wang
2005-07-13 18:42:28 UTC
Permalink
In article <db3cmm$jph$***@vcn.bc.ca>, ***@vcn.bc.ca says...
>
>If you're really suing him for cyberstalking, all these posts from you can
>easily be used by him to show that it's just a typical Usenet kook-exchange,
>meaning nothing!
>
>If you have a suit against him and you hope it to be effective, STFU!!!
>

In most respects I'd agree, and I would think that would be his lawyer's advice
as well. But in this case continuing to talk about it here seems to be
resulting in the defendant digging a deeper hole for himself (throwing a spazz
when served, then posting about fantasizing about hitting the process server
with a wrench!). Conversely, there's nothing in the plaintiff's recent
postings that undermine himself. So in this case, perhaps the plaintiff's
decision to keep talking about it is shrewd, but admittedly, it's a dangerous
tactic.


>Because I care,
>
>|<+]::-( ("Cyberpope," the Bishop of ROM!)
>
> (Please quote with "gapope wrote...")
>-=-
>In essentials, unity;
>In non-essentials, liberty;
>in all things, charity. -- Baxter quoting Augustine
>-=-
>
>PS This post specially encoded for verification purposes
>
>
>***@gmail.com wrote:
>> EVER A MORON in 2005, PATRICK MICHAEL SULLIVAN, self-confessed car and
>> boat thief, being sued for cyber stalking in the Supreme Court of
>> British Columbia in Case S42823, babbled to teh kooknet about how the
>> coward tried to avoid being served with a Writ:
>>
>>
>> From: ***@myway.com
>> Newsgroups:
>> alt.suicide.holiday,alt.religion.christianity,alt.christnet.christianlife,
>> neral,alt.usenet.kooks
>> Subject: Robert Griffin and his kook suit.
>> Date: 12 Jul 2005 17:49:13 -0700
>> Organization: http://groups.google.com
>> Lines: 46
>> Message-ID: <***@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
>> References: <***@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
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>> 00:49:19 GMT)
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>> NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 00:49:19 +0000 (UTC)
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>> alt.religion.christianity:357412 alt.christnet.christianlife:538011
>> van.general:354473 alt.usenet.kooks:1112056
>>
>> ROBERT GRIFFIN ***@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> > You weren't even replying to me then, you stupid lying scumbag. And you
>> > said you had nothing to hide, scumbag. So what are you whining about,
>> > you flip-flopping flim-flam fruitcake?
>> >
>> > You outed *yourself*.
>>
>> Pymp, you also outed a Patrick Sullivan on Wentworth st. remember? What
>> did he have to do with ASH? And the Patrick Sullivan on Overlook dr.?
>> Same thing, bobby boi.
>>
>> You can take a name from the phone book and post it on Usenet. But if
>> you were to spew a bunch of lies and harassment of that name, you would
>> be in shit, Robert Griffin. And that is what you did to us, correct?
>> You have pushed your harassment of many people here far beyond what is
>> acceptable, ROBERT GRIFFIN.
>>
>> BTW, your process server did not identify himself. I had no idea who he
>> was. For all I know, he could have been WRATHFLY. He simply placed a
>> piece of paper on my windscreen as I was leaving for work. I went after
>> him and he said a few swear words to me and he quickly jumped in his
>> van and rolled up his window half way and hid. I have never seen a fat
>> man move so fast. If I had a wrench in my hand, it may have very well
>> went through his window, because he was such a loser with an attitude,
>> kinda like you. However, tossing a wrench thru someone's window is
>> illegal, so I am not allowed to do that. But instead, the creep took
>> off, and he had the papers stuck to the hood of his van in the pouring
>> rain that morning, after I tried to throw whatever it was in his face.
>> Well, papers not being very aerodynamic they ended up flying about and
>> landed on his hood, as I stated. I guess when the slob reached the
>> highway and began to pick up speed, the papers no doubt crept up onto
>> his windscreen. Surprise! Later that day, fat boi snuck back into the
>> building and slipped them under my door when I was away at work again.
>>
>> BTW, that same fat slob of a process server had tried to get into my
>> building 3 times previous to that, according to someone else. Each
>> time, I was at work. Don't these guy work nights?
>>
>> I hope you show up for your kook suit, Bobby boi :D But something tells
>> me you don't have the guts to ever see someone you have harassed from
>> Usenet face to face, right? Right. Like a lady here said, you would
>> prolly just blubber and vomit.
>>
>> See ya in court, "pymp"! :D
>>
>--
>.
>from gapope(at)vcn(dot)bc(dot)ca << Official Reply Address for Usenet Post
>.
>
Tremendous Wang
2005-07-13 18:48:40 UTC
Permalink
In article <ogdBe.121967$***@edtnps89>, ***@wang.com says...
>
>In article <db3cmm$jph$***@vcn.bc.ca>, ***@vcn.bc.ca says...
>>
>>If you're really suing him for cyberstalking, all these posts from you can
>>easily be used by him to show that it's just a typical Usenet kook-exchange,
>>meaning nothing!
>>
>>If you have a suit against him and you hope it to be effective, STFU!!!
>>
>
>In most respects I'd agree, and I would think that would be his lawyer's
advice
>as well. But in this case continuing to talk about it here seems to be
>resulting in the defendant digging a deeper hole for himself (throwing a spazz
>when served, then posting about fantasizing about hitting the process server
>with a wrench!). Conversely, there's nothing in the plaintiff's recent
>postings that undermine himself. So in this case, perhaps the plaintiff's
>decision to keep talking about it is shrewd, but admittedly, it's a dangerous
>tactic.
>

By the way, I doubt the court will entertain the existence of the concept of a
'typical usenet kook-exchange'. The court will look at it as an exchange
like any other between two adults regardless of who is considered 'kooky' on
usenet. The only times the court will refuse to hear a case between parties is
when disputes arise from a consensual criminal endevour.


>
>>Because I care,
>>
>>|<+]::-( ("Cyberpope," the Bishop of ROM!)
>>
>> (Please quote with "gapope wrote...")
>>-=-
>>In essentials, unity;
>>In non-essentials, liberty;
>>in all things, charity. -- Baxter quoting Augustine
>>-=-
>>
>>PS This post specially encoded for verification purposes
>>
>>
>>***@gmail.com wrote:
>>> EVER A MORON in 2005, PATRICK MICHAEL SULLIVAN, self-confessed car and
>>> boat thief, being sued for cyber stalking in the Supreme Court of
>>> British Columbia in Case S42823, babbled to teh kooknet about how the
>>> coward tried to avoid being served with a Writ:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: ***@myway.com
>>> Newsgroups:
>>> alt.suicide.holiday,alt.religion.christianity,alt.christnet.christianlife,
>>> neral,alt.usenet.kooks
>>> Subject: Robert Griffin and his kook suit.
>>> Date: 12 Jul 2005 17:49:13 -0700
>>> Organization: http://groups.google.com
>>> Lines: 46
>>> Message-ID: <***@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
>>> References: <***@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
>>> <***@individual.net>
>>> <***@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
>>> <***@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
>>> <***@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
>>> <***@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
>>> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.200.131.43
>>> Mime-Version: 1.0
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
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>>> 00:49:19 GMT)
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>>> NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 00:49:19 +0000 (UTC)
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>>> alt.religion.christianity:357412 alt.christnet.christianlife:538011
>>> van.general:354473 alt.usenet.kooks:1112056
>>>
>>> ROBERT GRIFFIN ***@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>> > You weren't even replying to me then, you stupid lying scumbag. And you
>>> > said you had nothing to hide, scumbag. So what are you whining about,
>>> > you flip-flopping flim-flam fruitcake?
>>> >
>>> > You outed *yourself*.
>>>
>>> Pymp, you also outed a Patrick Sullivan on Wentworth st. remember? What
>>> did he have to do with ASH? And the Patrick Sullivan on Overlook dr.?
>>> Same thing, bobby boi.
>>>
>>> You can take a name from the phone book and post it on Usenet. But if
>>> you were to spew a bunch of lies and harassment of that name, you would
>>> be in shit, Robert Griffin. And that is what you did to us, correct?
>>> You have pushed your harassment of many people here far beyond what is
>>> acceptable, ROBERT GRIFFIN.
>>>
>>> BTW, your process server did not identify himself. I had no idea who he
>>> was. For all I know, he could have been WRATHFLY. He simply placed a
>>> piece of paper on my windscreen as I was leaving for work. I went after
>>> him and he said a few swear words to me and he quickly jumped in his
>>> van and rolled up his window half way and hid. I have never seen a fat
>>> man move so fast. If I had a wrench in my hand, it may have very well
>>> went through his window, because he was such a loser with an attitude,
>>> kinda like you. However, tossing a wrench thru someone's window is
>>> illegal, so I am not allowed to do that. But instead, the creep took
>>> off, and he had the papers stuck to the hood of his van in the pouring
>>> rain that morning, after I tried to throw whatever it was in his face.
>>> Well, papers not being very aerodynamic they ended up flying about and
>>> landed on his hood, as I stated. I guess when the slob reached the
>>> highway and began to pick up speed, the papers no doubt crept up onto
>>> his windscreen. Surprise! Later that day, fat boi snuck back into the
>>> building and slipped them under my door when I was away at work again.
>>>
>>> BTW, that same fat slob of a process server had tried to get into my
>>> building 3 times previous to that, according to someone else. Each
>>> time, I was at work. Don't these guy work nights?
>>>
>>> I hope you show up for your kook suit, Bobby boi :D But something tells
>>> me you don't have the guts to ever see someone you have harassed from
>>> Usenet face to face, right? Right. Like a lady here said, you would
>>> prolly just blubber and vomit.
>>>
>>> See ya in court, "pymp"! :D
>>>
>>--
>>.
>>from gapope(at)vcn(dot)bc(dot)ca << Official Reply Address for Usenet Post
>>.
>>
>
g***@vcn.bc.ca
2005-07-14 15:01:21 UTC
Permalink
Except the court is sure to frown on his seemingly "baiting" the other guy. . .
That's why I advised the STFU approach!

Because I care,

|<+]::-( ("Cyberpope," the Bishop of ROM!)

(Please quote with "gapope wrote...")
-=-
In essentials, unity;
In non-essentials, liberty;
in all things, charity. -- Baxter quoting Augustine
-=-

PS This post specially encoded for verification purposes


***@wang.com (Tremendous Wang) wrote:
TW> In article <db3cmm$jph$***@vcn.bc.ca>, ***@vcn.bc.ca says...
TW> >
TW> >If you're really suing him for cyberstalking, all these posts from you ca
TW> >easily be used by him to show that it's just a typical Usenet kook-exchan
TW> >meaning nothing!
TW> >
TW> >If you have a suit against him and you hope it to be effective, STFU!!!
TW> >
TW>
TW> In most respects I'd agree, and I would think that would be his lawyer's a
TW> as well. But in this case continuing to talk about it here seems to be
TW> resulting in the defendant digging a deeper hole for himself (throwing a s
TW> when served, then posting about fantasizing about hitting the process serv
TW> with a wrench!). Conversely, there's nothing in the plaintiff's recent
TW> postings that undermine himself. So in this case, perhaps the plaintiff's
TW> decision to keep talking about it is shrewd, but admittedly, it's a danger
TW> tactic.
TW>
TW>
TW> >Because I care,
TW> >
TW> >|<+]::-( ("Cyberpope," the Bishop of ROM!)
TW> >
TW> > (Please quote with "gapope wrote...")
TW> >-=-
TW> >In essentials, unity;
TW> >In non-essentials, liberty;
TW> >in all things, charity. -- Baxter quoting Augustine
TW> >-=-
TW> >
TW> >PS This post specially encoded for verification purposes
TW> >
TW> >
TW> >***@gmail.com wrote:
TW> >> EVER A MORON in 2005, PATRICK MICHAEL SULLIVAN, self-confessed car and
TW> >> boat thief, being sued for cyber stalking in the Supreme Court of
TW> >> British Columbia in Case S42823, babbled to teh kooknet about how the
TW> >> coward tried to avoid being served with a Writ:
TW> >>
TW> >>
TW> >> From: ***@myway.com
TW> >> Newsgroups:
TW> >> alt.suicide.holiday,alt.religion.christianity,alt.christnet.christianli
TW> >> neral,alt.usenet.kooks
TW> >> Subject: Robert Griffin and his kook suit.
TW> >> Date: 12 Jul 2005 17:49:13 -0700
TW> >> Organization: http://groups.google.com
TW> >> Lines: 46
TW> >> Message-ID: <***@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
TW> >> References: <***@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
TW> >> <***@individual.net>
TW> >> <***@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
TW> >> <***@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
TW> >> <***@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
TW> >> <***@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
TW> >> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.200.131.43
TW> >> Mime-Version: 1.0
TW> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
TW> >> X-Trace: posting.google.com 1121215759 16205 127.0.0.1 (13 Jul 2005
TW> >> 00:49:19 GMT)
TW> >> X-Complaints-To: groups-***@google.com
TW> >> NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 00:49:19 +0000 (UTC)
TW> >> User-Agent: G2/0.2
TW> >> Complaints-To: groups-***@google.com
TW> >> Injection-Info: g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com;
TW> >> posting-host=207.200.131.43;
TW> >> posting-account=0ykVYg0AAABK3IiQMFFbNxkX1ARrWSdH
TW> >> Xref: newsfeed-west.nntpserver.com alt.suicide.holiday:453536
TW> >> alt.religion.christianity:357412 alt.christnet.christianlife:538011
TW> >> van.general:354473 alt.usenet.kooks:1112056
TW> >>
TW> >> ROBERT GRIFFIN ***@gmail.com wrote:
TW> >>
TW> >> > You weren't even replying to me then, you stupid lying scumbag. And y
TW> >> > said you had nothing to hide, scumbag. So what are you whining about,
TW> >> > you flip-flopping flim-flam fruitcake?
TW> >> >
TW> >> > You outed *yourself*.
TW> >>
TW> >> Pymp, you also outed a Patrick Sullivan on Wentworth st. remember? What
TW> >> did he have to do with ASH? And the Patrick Sullivan on Overlook dr.?
TW> >> Same thing, bobby boi.
TW> >>
TW> >> You can take a name from the phone book and post it on Usenet. But if
TW> >> you were to spew a bunch of lies and harassment of that name, you would
TW> >> be in shit, Robert Griffin. And that is what you did to us, correct?
TW> >> You have pushed your harassment of many people here far beyond what is
TW> >> acceptable, ROBERT GRIFFIN.
TW> >>
TW> >> BTW, your process server did not identify himself. I had no idea who he
TW> >> was. For all I know, he could have been WRATHFLY. He simply placed a
TW> >> piece of paper on my windscreen as I was leaving for work. I went after
TW> >> him and he said a few swear words to me and he quickly jumped in his
TW> >> van and rolled up his window half way and hid. I have never seen a fat
TW> >> man move so fast. If I had a wrench in my hand, it may have very well
TW> >> went through his window, because he was such a loser with an attitude,
TW> >> kinda like you. However, tossing a wrench thru someone's window is
TW> >> illegal, so I am not allowed to do that. But instead, the creep took
TW> >> off, and he had the papers stuck to the hood of his van in the pouring
TW> >> rain that morning, after I tried to throw whatever it was in his face.
TW> >> Well, papers not being very aerodynamic they ended up flying about and
TW> >> landed on his hood, as I stated. I guess when the slob reached the
TW> >> highway and began to pick up speed, the papers no doubt crept up onto
TW> >> his windscreen. Surprise! Later that day, fat boi snuck back into the
TW> >> building and slipped them under my door when I was away at work again.
TW> >>
TW> >> BTW, that same fat slob of a process server had tried to get into my
TW> >> building 3 times previous to that, according to someone else. Each
TW> >> time, I was at work. Don't these guy work nights?
TW> >>
TW> >> I hope you show up for your kook suit, Bobby boi :D But something tells
TW> >> me you don't have the guts to ever see someone you have harassed from
TW> >> Usenet face to face, right? Right. Like a lady here said, you would
TW> >> prolly just blubber and vomit.
TW> >>
TW> >> See ya in court, "pymp"! :D
TW> >>
TW> >--
TW> >.
TW> >from gapope(at)vcn(dot)bc(dot)ca << Official Reply Address for Usenet Pos
TW> >.
TW> >
TW>
--
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Tremendous Wang
2005-07-14 21:58:28 UTC
Permalink
In article <db5uo1$mcn$***@vcn.bc.ca>, ***@vcn.bc.ca says...
>
>Except the court is sure to frown on his seemingly "baiting" the other guy. .
.

Maybe, it's hard to say. I'd STFU if I were him, but I'm not so sure it's that
important. Personally I'd rather be safe than sorry. It's possible the
plaintiff isn't expecting to win and is only launching the lawsuit as a means
of harassment.

>That's why I advised the STFU approach!
>
>Because I care,
>
>|<+]::-( ("Cyberpope," the Bishop of ROM!)
>
> (Please quote with "gapope wrote...")
>-=-
>In essentials, unity;
>In non-essentials, liberty;
>in all things, charity. -- Baxter quoting Augustine
>-=-
>
>PS This post specially encoded for verification purposes
>
>
>***@wang.com (Tremendous Wang) wrote:
>TW> In article <db3cmm$jph$***@vcn.bc.ca>, ***@vcn.bc.ca says...
>TW> >
>TW> >If you're really suing him for cyberstalking, all these posts from you ca
>TW> >easily be used by him to show that it's just a typical Usenet kook-exchan
>TW> >meaning nothing!
>TW> >
>TW> >If you have a suit against him and you hope it to be effective, STFU!!!
>TW> >
>TW>
>TW> In most respects I'd agree, and I would think that would be his lawyer's a
>TW> as well. But in this case continuing to talk about it here seems to be
>TW> resulting in the defendant digging a deeper hole for himself (throwing a s
>TW> when served, then posting about fantasizing about hitting the process serv
>TW> with a wrench!). Conversely, there's nothing in the plaintiff's recent
>TW> postings that undermine himself. So in this case, perhaps the plaintiff's
>TW> decision to keep talking about it is shrewd, but admittedly, it's a danger
>TW> tactic.
>TW>
>TW>
>TW> >Because I care,
>TW> >
>TW> >|<+]::-( ("Cyberpope," the Bishop of ROM!)
>TW> >
>TW> > (Please quote with "gapope wrote...")
>TW> >-=-
>TW> >In essentials, unity;
>TW> >In non-essentials, liberty;
>TW> >in all things, charity. -- Baxter quoting Augustine
>TW> >-=-
>TW> >
>TW> >PS This post specially encoded for verification purposes
>TW> >
>TW> >
>TW> >***@gmail.com wrote:
>TW> >> EVER A MORON in 2005, PATRICK MICHAEL SULLIVAN, self-confessed car and
>TW> >> boat thief, being sued for cyber stalking in the Supreme Court of
>TW> >> British Columbia in Case S42823, babbled to teh kooknet about how the
>TW> >> coward tried to avoid being served with a Writ:
>TW> >>
>TW> >>
>TW> >> From: ***@myway.com
>TW> >> Newsgroups:
>TW> >> alt.suicide.holiday,alt.religion.christianity,alt.christnet.christianli
>TW> >> neral,alt.usenet.kooks
>TW> >> Subject: Robert Griffin and his kook suit.
>TW> >> Date: 12 Jul 2005 17:49:13 -0700
>TW> >> Organization: http://groups.google.com
>TW> >> Lines: 46
>TW> >> Message-ID: <***@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
>TW> >> References: <***@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
>TW> >> <***@individual.net>
>TW> >> <***@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
>TW> >> <***@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
>TW> >> <***@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
>TW> >> <***@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
>TW> >> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.200.131.43
>TW> >> Mime-Version: 1.0
>TW> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
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>TW> >> 00:49:19 GMT)
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>TW> >> NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 00:49:19 +0000 (UTC)
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>TW> >> Xref: newsfeed-west.nntpserver.com alt.suicide.holiday:453536
>TW> >> alt.religion.christianity:357412 alt.christnet.christianlife:538011
>TW> >> van.general:354473 alt.usenet.kooks:1112056
>TW> >>
>TW> >> ROBERT GRIFFIN ***@gmail.com wrote:
>TW> >>
>TW> >> > You weren't even replying to me then, you stupid lying scumbag. And y
>TW> >> > said you had nothing to hide, scumbag. So what are you whining about,
>TW> >> > you flip-flopping flim-flam fruitcake?
>TW> >> >
>TW> >> > You outed *yourself*.
>TW> >>
>TW> >> Pymp, you also outed a Patrick Sullivan on Wentworth st. remember? What
>TW> >> did he have to do with ASH? And the Patrick Sullivan on Overlook dr.?
>TW> >> Same thing, bobby boi.
>TW> >>
>TW> >> You can take a name from the phone book and post it on Usenet. But if
>TW> >> you were to spew a bunch of lies and harassment of that name, you would
>TW> >> be in shit, Robert Griffin. And that is what you did to us, correct?
>TW> >> You have pushed your harassment of many people here far beyond what is
>TW> >> acceptable, ROBERT GRIFFIN.
>TW> >>
>TW> >> BTW, your process server did not identify himself. I had no idea who he
>TW> >> was. For all I know, he could have been WRATHFLY. He simply placed a
>TW> >> piece of paper on my windscreen as I was leaving for work. I went after
>TW> >> him and he said a few swear words to me and he quickly jumped in his
>TW> >> van and rolled up his window half way and hid. I have never seen a fat
>TW> >> man move so fast. If I had a wrench in my hand, it may have very well
>TW> >> went through his window, because he was such a loser with an attitude,
>TW> >> kinda like you. However, tossing a wrench thru someone's window is
>TW> >> illegal, so I am not allowed to do that. But instead, the creep took
>TW> >> off, and he had the papers stuck to the hood of his van in the pouring
>TW> >> rain that morning, after I tried to throw whatever it was in his face.
>TW> >> Well, papers not being very aerodynamic they ended up flying about and
>TW> >> landed on his hood, as I stated. I guess when the slob reached the
>TW> >> highway and began to pick up speed, the papers no doubt crept up onto
>TW> >> his windscreen. Surprise! Later that day, fat boi snuck back into the
>TW> >> building and slipped them under my door when I was away at work again.
>TW> >>
>TW> >> BTW, that same fat slob of a process server had tried to get into my
>TW> >> building 3 times previous to that, according to someone else. Each
>TW> >> time, I was at work. Don't these guy work nights?
>TW> >>
>TW> >> I hope you show up for your kook suit, Bobby boi :D But something tells
>TW> >> me you don't have the guts to ever see someone you have harassed from
>TW> >> Usenet face to face, right? Right. Like a lady here said, you would
>TW> >> prolly just blubber and vomit.
>TW> >>
>TW> >> See ya in court, "pymp"! :D
>TW> >>
>TW> >--
>TW> >.
>TW> >from gapope(at)vcn(dot)bc(dot)ca << Official Reply Address for Usenet Pos
>TW> >.
>TW> >
>TW>
>--
>.
>from gapope(at)vcn(dot)bc(dot)ca << Official Reply Address for Usenet Post
>.
>
a***@gmail.com
2005-07-14 22:39:38 UTC
Permalink
Tremendous Wang wrote:

> In article <db5uo1$mcn$***@vcn.bc.ca>, ***@vcn.bc.ca says...
> >
> >Except the court is sure to frown on his seemingly "baiting" the other guy. .
> .

Mr. Pope ought to note the posts by BLOU, Barbara Schwarz, etc -- which
are clearly intended to be baiting me; they tried this same tactic in
October last year.


> Maybe, it's hard to say. I'd STFU if I were him, but I'm not so sure it's that
> important. Personally I'd rather be safe than sorry.

That is good advice and I will take it.

> It's possible the
> plaintiff isn't expecting to win and is only launching the lawsuit as a means
> of harassment.

Not so; I am launching the lawsuit to *end* my harassment, as I aver
the Defendant has been questioned by police, told to stop *by* police,
and PMS carried on regardless. I also aver I stopped posting or reading
usenet for months at a time, yet the defamation and the websites and
the libel kept spewing out from the defendant.

That's all I will say. Troy, sorry for not shutting up earlier.
Tremendous Wang
2005-07-14 23:23:32 UTC
Permalink
In article <***@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
***@gmail.com says...
>
>> It's possible the
>> plaintiff isn't expecting to win and is only launching the lawsuit as a
means
>> of harassment.
>
>Not so; I am launching the lawsuit to *end* my harassment, as I aver
>the Defendant has been questioned by police, told to stop *by* police,
>and PMS carried on regardless.
>I also aver I stopped posting or reading
>usenet for months at a time, yet the defamation and the websites and
>the libel kept spewing out from the defendant.

Sounds reasonable, if you are continuing to be libelled, it would be
reasonable for you to respond to refute the allegation each time it is made.
If you continue the exchange after refuting the libel, then perhaps you will
have been 'baited', rather than being the one doing the baiting, as alleged by
gapope.


>
>That's all I will say. Troy, sorry for not shutting up earlier.
>

Oh don't worry about Troy, he's a jackass.
Tremendous Wang
2005-07-13 18:54:54 UTC
Permalink
In article <db3cmm$jph$***@vcn.bc.ca>, ***@vcn.bc.ca says...
>
>If you're really suing him for cyberstalking,

oh, and also I believe the plaintiff is alleging slander/libel, and criminal
harassment. As far as I know there is no 'cyberstalking' law though there are
stalking laws in some jurisdictions, and evidence of 'cyberstalking' would
simply be evidence entered into a stalking trial. The slander/libel and
criminal harassment charges are far more likely to be successful than a
stalking charge would be, in my opinion. The fact that the plaintiff continues
to talk publically about it doesn't really have any bearing on the case,
because if what he alleges convinces the court, then the court should decide
that he should be able to post publically on usenet whenever he wants about
whatever he wants without being criminally harassed.

all these posts from you can
>easily be used by him to show that it's just a typical Usenet kook-exchange,
>meaning nothing!
>
>If you have a suit against him and you hope it to be effective, STFU!!!
>
>Because I care,
>
>|<+]::-( ("Cyberpope," the Bishop of ROM!)
>
> (Please quote with "gapope wrote...")
>-=-
>In essentials, unity;
>In non-essentials, liberty;
>in all things, charity. -- Baxter quoting Augustine
>-=-
>
>PS This post specially encoded for verification purposes
>
>
>***@gmail.com wrote:
>> EVER A MORON in 2005, PATRICK MICHAEL SULLIVAN, self-confessed car and
>> boat thief, being sued for cyber stalking in the Supreme Court of
>> British Columbia in Case S42823, babbled to teh kooknet about how the
>> coward tried to avoid being served with a Writ:
>>
>>
>> From: ***@myway.com
>> Newsgroups:
>> alt.suicide.holiday,alt.religion.christianity,alt.christnet.christianlife,
>> neral,alt.usenet.kooks
>> Subject: Robert Griffin and his kook suit.
>> Date: 12 Jul 2005 17:49:13 -0700
>> Organization: http://groups.google.com
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>>
>> ROBERT GRIFFIN ***@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> > You weren't even replying to me then, you stupid lying scumbag. And you
>> > said you had nothing to hide, scumbag. So what are you whining about,
>> > you flip-flopping flim-flam fruitcake?
>> >
>> > You outed *yourself*.
>>
>> Pymp, you also outed a Patrick Sullivan on Wentworth st. remember? What
>> did he have to do with ASH? And the Patrick Sullivan on Overlook dr.?
>> Same thing, bobby boi.
>>
>> You can take a name from the phone book and post it on Usenet. But if
>> you were to spew a bunch of lies and harassment of that name, you would
>> be in shit, Robert Griffin. And that is what you did to us, correct?
>> You have pushed your harassment of many people here far beyond what is
>> acceptable, ROBERT GRIFFIN.
>>
>> BTW, your process server did not identify himself. I had no idea who he
>> was. For all I know, he could have been WRATHFLY. He simply placed a
>> piece of paper on my windscreen as I was leaving for work. I went after
>> him and he said a few swear words to me and he quickly jumped in his
>> van and rolled up his window half way and hid. I have never seen a fat
>> man move so fast. If I had a wrench in my hand, it may have very well
>> went through his window, because he was such a loser with an attitude,
>> kinda like you. However, tossing a wrench thru someone's window is
>> illegal, so I am not allowed to do that. But instead, the creep took
>> off, and he had the papers stuck to the hood of his van in the pouring
>> rain that morning, after I tried to throw whatever it was in his face.
>> Well, papers not being very aerodynamic they ended up flying about and
>> landed on his hood, as I stated. I guess when the slob reached the
>> highway and began to pick up speed, the papers no doubt crept up onto
>> his windscreen. Surprise! Later that day, fat boi snuck back into the
>> building and slipped them under my door when I was away at work again.
>>
>> BTW, that same fat slob of a process server had tried to get into my
>> building 3 times previous to that, according to someone else. Each
>> time, I was at work. Don't these guy work nights?
>>
>> I hope you show up for your kook suit, Bobby boi :D But something tells
>> me you don't have the guts to ever see someone you have harassed from
>> Usenet face to face, right? Right. Like a lady here said, you would
>> prolly just blubber and vomit.
>>
>> See ya in court, "pymp"! :D
>>
>--
>.
>from gapope(at)vcn(dot)bc(dot)ca << Official Reply Address for Usenet Post
>.
>
Bastinado
2005-07-14 03:10:37 UTC
Permalink
***@myway.com wrote:
> ROBERT GRIFFIN ***@gmail.com wrote:

>
> BTW, your process server did not identify himself. I had no idea who he
> was. For all I know, he could have been WRATHFLY. He simply placed a
> piece of paper on my windscreen as I was leaving for work.

Then you were not properly served. In a first world country (USA), a
person who is the subject of legal proceedings needs to be properly
informed of those proceedings. What if those papers on your windshield
blew away, or were damaged and made illegible? What if you thought he
was placing advertising on your car, and you threw it away unread? Why,
you would have no knowledge of legal proceedings underway that involved
you.

So, ask yourself this....

Is "I didn't know about this case" a valid defense in court?

The answer is "no", because there are procedures to be followed for the
service of legal papers. They must be physically given to the person
being sued, and that person must be informed that they have been served
legal documents. In your case, it doesn't sound like that standard was met.

Ask yourself why.....






>I went after
> him and he said a few swear words to me and he quickly jumped in his
> van and rolled up his window half way and hid. I have never seen a fat
> man move so fast. If I had a wrench in my hand, it may have very well
> went through his window, because he was such a loser with an attitude,
> kinda like you. However, tossing a wrench thru someone's window is
> illegal, so I am not allowed to do that. But instead, the creep took
> off, and he had the papers stuck to the hood of his van in the pouring
> rain that morning, after I tried to throw whatever it was in his face.
> Well, papers not being very aerodynamic they ended up flying about and
> landed on his hood, as I stated. I guess when the slob reached the
> highway and began to pick up speed, the papers no doubt crept up onto
> his windscreen. Surprise! Later that day, fat boi snuck back into the
> building and slipped them under my door when I was away at work again.
>
> BTW, that same fat slob of a process server had tried to get into my
> building 3 times previous to that, according to someone else. Each
> time, I was at work. Don't these guy work nights?
>
> I hope you show up for your kook suit, Bobby boi :D But something tells
> me you don't have the guts to ever see someone you have harassed from
> Usenet face to face, right? Right. Like a lady here said, you would
> prolly just blubber and vomit.
>
> See ya in court, "pymp"! :D
>
Greg Carr
2005-07-14 08:04:47 UTC
Permalink
On Wed, 13 Jul 2005 20:10:37 -0700, Bastinado
<***@coxandballs.net> wrote:

>***@myway.com wrote:
>> ROBERT GRIFFIN ***@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>
>> BTW, your process server did not identify himself. I had no idea who he
>> was. For all I know, he could have been WRATHFLY. He simply placed a
>> piece of paper on my windscreen as I was leaving for work.
>
>Then you were not properly served. In a first world country (USA), a
>person who is the subject of legal proceedings needs to be properly
>informed of those proceedings. What if those papers on your windshield
>blew away, or were damaged and made illegible? What if you thought he
>was placing advertising on your car, and you threw it away unread? Why,
>you would have no knowledge of legal proceedings underway that involved
>you.
>
>So, ask yourself this....
>
>Is "I didn't know about this case" a valid defense in court?
>
>The answer is "no", because there are procedures to be followed for the
>service of legal papers. They must be physically given to the person
>being sued, and that person must be informed that they have been served
>legal documents. In your case, it doesn't sound like that standard was met.
>
>Ask yourself why.....
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>I went after
>> him and he said a few swear words to me and he quickly jumped in his
>> van and rolled up his window half way and hid. I have never seen a fat
>> man move so fast. If I had a wrench in my hand, it may have very well
>> went through his window, because he was such a loser with an attitude,
>> kinda like you. However, tossing a wrench thru someone's window is
>> illegal, so I am not allowed to do that. But instead, the creep took
>> off, and he had the papers stuck to the hood of his van in the pouring
>> rain that morning, after I tried to throw whatever it was in his face.
>> Well, papers not being very aerodynamic they ended up flying about and
>> landed on his hood, as I stated. I guess when the slob reached the
>> highway and began to pick up speed, the papers no doubt crept up onto
>> his windscreen. Surprise! Later that day, fat boi snuck back into the
>> building and slipped them under my door when I was away at work again.
>>
>> BTW, that same fat slob of a process server had tried to get into my
>> building 3 times previous to that, according to someone else. Each
>> time, I was at work. Don't these guy work nights?
>>
>> I hope you show up for your kook suit, Bobby boi :D But something tells
>> me you don't have the guts to ever see someone you have harassed from
>> Usenet face to face, right? Right. Like a lady here said, you would
>> prolly just blubber and vomit.
>>
>> See ya in court, "pymp"! :D
>>

Actually the process server just has to make a good faith attempt to
serve with the reasonable assumption that the intended person got the
papers. A co-worker of mine would hide every time the process server
came to our place of work to serve him. He finally just threw the
papers on the third occasion onto the floor of the business and left.
They were accepted as having been served because he had been present
at work that day.

In any case why doesn't the interested party just scan and post the
legal papers here assuming this is a Lower Mainland resident.
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