alt.atheism.moderated fails in it's first month! B^D Postings for June 2012 to date! - Even the atheist trolls PREFER the unmoderated group to their sad, boring moderated one! B^D

Well it's official, NOT EVEN THE ATHEIST TROLLS prefer
their moderated NG to the Free one they have lost control
of and wanted to RUN AWAY FROM:

Postings for June 2012

alt.atheism: 11845 posts
alt.atheism.moderated 1203 posts

But adding to the popularity of the old, FREE group we
see that those who claimed they had to set up the
sheltered workshop because of the 'noise'(sic) actually
PREFER it to the deathly, boring silence in their
censored tomb: B^D

435 for group:alt.atheism author:Jeanne author:Douglas.
10 for group:alt.atheism.moderated author:Jeanne author:Douglas

Even the troll who conned all the atheist sheep into pandering
to his ego by setting it up, PREFERS to post in FREE USENET; B^D

625 for group:alt.atheism author:Mike author:Lovell
159 for group:alt.atheism.moderated author:Mike author:Lovell

226 for group:alt.atheism author:Christopher author:Lee.
190 for group:alt.atheism.moderated author:Christopher author:Lee.

those two are the Chief Censors of the moderated NG and even
they prefer to have REAL DISCUSSIONS elsewhere!!!!

BWEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAHHAAAA

i told you they would get BORED with their own whining and
would come crawling back to the NG they ABANDONED because
they were now OUTNUMBERED as atheism continues to decline,
As Mike LEnin admitted when they all retreated from the contest
of ideas they were ALWAYS LOSING; B^D

# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# From: Mike Lovell <***@b0h0.com>
# Subject: Re: alt.atheism.moderated - It's alive again,
# non-fuctional atm
# Message-ID: <***@usenet.home.b0h0.com>
# Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 13:46:16 -0500
#
# On 2012-05-26, Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess
<***@fidemturbare.com> wrote:
#
# > I've recently been considering an exit plan for this
# > "alt.atheism" newsgroup because I find the proselytizing
# > religious right-wing-nuts repeatedly attempting to re-define
# > atheism as a theology,
# > among other things, to be tiring and stupid.
#
# I think a lot of people have been lost over the years

Oh you pathetic HYPOCRITES! B^D

Even findem turdbar prefers the OPEN NG to the MORIBUND one! B^D

180 for group:alt.atheism author:Fidem author:Turbare
78 for group:alt.atheism.moderated author:Fidem author:Turbare

As I keep telling you, the deceitful atheist trolls SAY one thing,
but DO another, they are hypocrites and frauds and nothing they
say can be believed

It is not the BELIEFS and opinions of atheist trolls which defines
atheism but their actions! B^]

And they all spell DEFEAT for the atheist trolls! B^]

---------

The foremost atheist Philosopher of our age recently
launched his new book "Religion for Atheists" and
no atheists are interested in talking about it:

http://altatheismfaq.blogspot.com.au/

- Alain de Botton, Lanching his new Book, Religion for Atheists
The Wheeler Centre, Melbourne 19/3/2012

http://www.abc.net.au/tv/bigideas/stories/2012/03/19/3455152.htm

---------

alt.atheism FAQ:

http://altatheismfaq.blogspot.com/

http://groups.google.com.au/group/alt.atheism/msg/7c0978c14fd4ed37?hl=en&dmode=source

"Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

"We must combat religion"
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

“Down with religion and long live atheism;
the dissemination of atheist views is our chief task!”
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

"Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

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darwinist

2012-06-15 13:22:42 UTC

You mean the new group hasn't grown bigger than the old, established
group? And they've already had a whole month? That's incredible.
Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

[...]

Quantity of activity isn't the same as level of preference. There are
factors such as quantity of opportunity to take into account as well.
If people participate in two groups and one is substantially bigger,
then it's not surprising they post more in the bigger one, even if
they like the smaller one better.

Given the low quality of your trolling I can see why someone would
want to start a moderated group to filter it out.

raven1

2012-06-15 13:57:04 UTC

On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 06:22:42 -0700 (PDT), darwinist

You mean the new group hasn't grown bigger than the old, established
group? And they've already had a whole month? That's incredible.
Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

[...]
Quantity of activity isn't the same as level of preference. There are
factors such as quantity of opportunity to take into account as well.
If people participate in two groups and one is substantially bigger,
then it's not surprising they post more in the bigger one, even if
they like the smaller one better.
Given the low quality of your trolling I can see why someone would
want to start a moderated group to filter it out.

It's pretty damned funny that Fasgnadh has his panties in such a knot
over not being invited to the party. It would be even funnier if we
started a newsgroup open to everyone except him.

duke

2012-06-15 16:41:34 UTC

Post by raven1
On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 06:22:42 -0700 (PDT), darwinist

You mean the new group hasn't grown bigger than the old, established
group? And they've already had a whole month? That's incredible.
Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

[...]
Quantity of activity isn't the same as level of preference. There are
factors such as quantity of opportunity to take into account as well.
If people participate in two groups and one is substantially bigger,
then it's not surprising they post more in the bigger one, even if
they like the smaller one better.
Given the low quality of your trolling I can see why someone would
want to start a moderated group to filter it out.

It's pretty damned funny that Fasgnadh has his panties in such a knot
over not being invited to the party.

Your's will get to be a very boring party in aa.mod.

The dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

raven1

2012-06-15 17:04:43 UTC

Post by raven1
On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 06:22:42 -0700 (PDT), darwinist

You mean the new group hasn't grown bigger than the old, established
group? And they've already had a whole month? That's incredible.
Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

[...]
Quantity of activity isn't the same as level of preference. There are
factors such as quantity of opportunity to take into account as well.
If people participate in two groups and one is substantially bigger,
then it's not surprising they post more in the bigger one, even if
they like the smaller one better.
Given the low quality of your trolling I can see why someone would
want to start a moderated group to filter it out.

It's pretty damned funny that Fasgnadh has his panties in such a knot
over not being invited to the party.

Your's will get to be a very boring party in aa.mod.

Sour grapes.

fasgnadh

2012-06-16 07:43:58 UTC

EVERYONE DOES.. the FACTS PROVE IT!

Post by fasgnadh
BWEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAHHAAAA

it's not surprising they post more in the bigger one

Of course not, it's FREE and diverse and interesting, the atheist
censored NG one is a sheltered workshop for atheist dogmatists
and low IQ trolls, as boring as batshit, but great material to MOCK!!!
B^]

Look at the list of atheist posters to it.. only the weak minded
and leat inarticulate trolls bother with it! B^D

Post by darwinist
i told you they would get BORED with their own whining and
would come crawling back to the NG they ABANDONED because
they were now OUTNUMBERED as atheism continues to decline,
As Mike Lenin admitted when they all retreated from the contest
of ideas they were ALWAYS LOSING; B^D
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# Subject: Re: alt.atheism.moderated - It's alive again,
# non-fuctional atm
# Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 13:46:16 -0500
#
# On 2012-05-26, Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess
#
# > I've recently been considering an exit plan for this
# > "alt.atheism" newsgroup because I find the proselytizing
# > religious right-wing-nuts repeatedly attempting to re-define
# > atheism as a theology,
# > among other things, to be tiring and stupid.
#
# I think a lot of people have been lost over the years
Oh you pathetic HYPOCRITES! B^D
Even findem turdbar prefers the OPEN NG to the MORIBUND one! B^D
180 for group:alt.atheism author:Fidem author:Turbare
78 for group:alt.atheism.moderated author:Fidem author:Turbare
As I keep telling you, the deceitful atheist trolls SAY one thing,
but DO another, they are hypocrites and frauds and nothing they
say can be believed
It is not the BELIEFS and opinions of atheist trolls which defines
atheism but their actions! B^]
And they all spell DEFEAT for the atheist trolls! B^]

It's pretty damned funny

Hilarious, almost as funny as this:

236 for group:alt.atheism author:raven1.
5 for group:alt.atheism.moderated author:raven1.

Post by raven1
even funnier

absolutely hilarious! B^D

So why do atheists who don't post there PRETEND that EVERYONE
ELSE who also don't post there are getting their

Post by raven1
panties in such a knot over not being invited to the party.

Not even the atheist trolls want to post there!

You all say it's WONDERFUL but RUN FROM IT LIKE THE PLAGUE!!! B^D

Post by duke
a very boring party in aa.mod.

And they know it..!

Now they are claiming that a.a.m's TINY, SHRINKING TRAFFIC,
due to profound and UNIVERSAL disinterest in Atheist.Pleasantville
is their DELIBERATE PLAN: B^D B^D

# From: Zinnic <***@gmail.com>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.philosophy,aus.politics
# Subject: Re: alt.atheism.moderated fails in it's first month! B^D
# Postings for June 2012 to date! - Even the atheist trolls PREFER
# the unmoderated group to their sad, boring moderated one! B^D
# Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 07:06:26 -0700 (PDT)
# Message-ID: <38cb96af-8e80-4d67-
a2ba-***@z2g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>
#
# Is is obvious that participants in that group prefer
# that it be smaller and restricted
#
# Zinnic

Post by raven1
Sour grapes.

is that why you constantly Wine like a little bitch?

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAAA !

duke

2012-06-16 18:07:43 UTC

Post by raven1
On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 06:22:42 -0700 (PDT), darwinist

You mean the new group hasn't grown bigger than the old, established
group? And they've already had a whole month? That's incredible.
Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

[...]
Quantity of activity isn't the same as level of preference. There are
factors such as quantity of opportunity to take into account as well.
If people participate in two groups and one is substantially bigger,
then it's not surprising they post more in the bigger one, even if
they like the smaller one better.
Given the low quality of your trolling I can see why someone would
want to start a moderated group to filter it out.

It's pretty damned funny that Fasgnadh has his panties in such a knot
over not being invited to the party.

Your's will get to be a very boring party in aa.mod.

Sour grapes.

Oh, no. My message goes out here.

duke, American - American

*****
Warning: alt.atheism.mod is not a moderated newsgroup. It
instead allows selected censorship blocking of non-perferred
content and personal insult based on censor preference.
aa.mod is a voliation of free speech and should be
reported to the Federal Communication Commission.
*****

sbalneav

2012-06-18 14:24:03 UTC

Post by duke
Oh, no. My message goes out here.

If your message is you're a mouthbreathing moron who's deliberately ignorant on
how science and the universe works, and who routinely runs away screaming from
an argument when you paint yourself into a corner, why, YES! Your message is
indeed getting out. Well done on that front!

duke

2012-06-18 21:46:46 UTC

Post by duke
Oh, no. My message goes out here.

If your message is you're a mouthbreathing moron who's deliberately ignorant on
how science and the universe works,

No, that's not it.

Post by sbalneav
and who routinely runs away screaming from
an argument when you paint yourself into a corner

Nope, that's not it either. None of you can offer an alternative to my words.

Post by sbalneav
why, YES! Your message is
indeed getting out. Well done on that front!

Thank you.

duke, American - American

*****
Warning: alt.atheism.mod is not a moderated newsgroup. It
instead allows selected censorship blocking of non-perferred
content and personal insult based on censor preference.
aa.mod is a voliation of free speech and should be
reported to the Federal Communication Commission.
*****

sbalneav

2012-06-18 22:34:03 UTC

Post by duke
Oh, no. My message goes out here.

If your message is you're a mouthbreathing moron who's deliberately ignorant on
how science and the universe works,

No, that's not it.

Oh, well, that's the message most of us are getting. Might want to rethink
your delivery, then.

Post by sbalneav
and who routinely runs away screaming from
an argument when you paint yourself into a corner

Nope, that's not it either. None of you can offer an alternative to my words.

Bullshit. I've argued with you a couple of times, and when you realized you'd
backed yourself down to the end of the dead end alley, you disappeared.
Your latest foray into stupidsville is that life must equal sentience.
Whereby, you eliminate most life on earth.

Post by sbalneav
why, YES! Your message is
indeed getting out. Well done on that front!

Thank you.

No no, don't thank ME.

Post by duke
duke, American - American
*****
Warning: alt.atheism.mod is not a moderated newsgroup. It
instead allows selected censorship blocking of non-perferred
content and personal insult based on censor preference.
aa.mod is a voliation of free speech and should be
reported to the Federal Communication Commission.
*****

duke

2012-06-20 16:58:07 UTC

Post by duke
Oh, no. My message goes out here.

If your message is you're a mouthbreathing moron who's deliberately ignorant on
how science and the universe works,

No, that's not it.

Oh, well, that's the message most of us are getting. Might want to rethink
your delivery, then.

I've been saying the same thing for well over a decade now. It's crystal
clear.

Post by sbalneav
and who routinely runs away screaming from
an argument when you paint yourself into a corner

Nope, that's not it either. None of you can offer an alternative to my words.

I've never run away, never backed down on a discussion of the universe and it's
origin.

Post by sbalneav
why, YES! Your message is
indeed getting out. Well done on that front!

Thank you.

No no, don't thank ME.

Well, you just told me how successful I've been.

The dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

sbalneav

2012-06-20 17:54:11 UTC

Post by duke
Oh, no. My message goes out here.

If your message is you're a mouthbreathing moron who's deliberately ignorant on
how science and the universe works,

No, that's not it.

Oh, well, that's the message most of us are getting. Might want to rethink
your delivery, then.

I've been saying the same thing for well over a decade now.

We know.

Post by duke
It's crystal
clear.

Yes. It's crystal clear you're a moron.

Post by sbalneav
and who routinely runs away screaming from
an argument when you paint yourself into a corner

Nope, that's not it either. None of you can offer an alternative to my words.

I've never run away, never backed down on a discussion of the universe and it's
origin.

Really? Then perhaps you'd like to answer one of the questions I had of you.
If I recall correctly, we were talking about morality. You were opining that
there was an objective morality. I asked you if God had to abide by this
objective morality. Care to answer?

Post by sbalneav
why, YES! Your message is
indeed getting out. Well done on that front!

Thank you.

No no, don't thank ME.

Well, you just told me how successful I've been.

At letting everyone know you're a moron. You admit being successful at this?

duke

2012-06-21 21:04:14 UTC

Post by duke
Oh, no. My message goes out here.

If your message is you're a mouthbreathing moron who's deliberately ignorant on
how science and the universe works,

No, that's not it.

Oh, well, that's the message most of us are getting. Might want to rethink
your delivery, then.

I've been saying the same thing for well over a decade now.

We know.

And it's been working for a decade now. But, good grief, it's hard to get thru
the village of nuts, fruits and gumballs that live in this ng.

The dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

sbalneav

2012-06-21 22:14:59 UTC

Post by duke
Oh, no. My message goes out here.

If your message is you're a mouthbreathing moron who's deliberately ignorant on
how science and the universe works,

No, that's not it.

Oh, well, that's the message most of us are getting. Might want to rethink
your delivery, then.

I've been saying the same thing for well over a decade now.

We know.

And it's been working for a decade now. But, good grief, it's hard to get thru
the village of nuts, fruits and gumballs that live in this ng.

Oh? It's been working? On what metric are you basing that assessment? How
are you measuring your "success"?

duke

2012-06-22 18:03:28 UTC

Post by duke
Oh, no. My message goes out here.

If your message is you're a mouthbreathing moron who's deliberately ignorant on
how science and the universe works,

No, that's not it.

Oh, well, that's the message most of us are getting. Might want to rethink
your delivery, then.

I've been saying the same thing for well over a decade now.

We know.

And it's been working for a decade now. But, good grief, it's hard to get thru
the village of nuts, fruits and gumballs that live in this ng.

Oh? It's been working? On what metric are you basing that assessment? How
are you measuring your "success"?

An atheist still can't come to grips with the origin of the universe.

The dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

Uergil

2012-06-22 03:38:47 UTC

Post by duke
Oh, no. My message goes out here.

If your message is you're a mouthbreathing moron who's deliberately ignorant on
how science and the universe works,

No, that's not it.

Oh, well, that's the message most of us are getting. Might want to rethink
your delivery, then.

I've been saying the same thing for well over a decade now.

We know.

And it's been working for a decade now. But, good grief, it's hard to get thru
the village of nuts, fruits and gumballs that live in this ng.

That's because those who "live" here are way too sharp to be taken in by
dumkopfs like duckgumbo.

Post by duke
Duckgumbo Armenian - Armenian
*****
"Masturbation is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul XI
*****

--
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less
remote from the- truth who believes nothing than
he who believes what is wrong.
Thomas Jefferson

Uergil

2012-06-20 19:22:45 UTC

Post by duke
I've never run away, never backed down on a discussion of the universe and it's
origin.

You have never produced any objective physical evidence suporting any
one of your claims, so you have produced no more that a random puff of
itching powder would.

--
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less
remote from the- truth who believes nothing than
he who believes what is wrong.
Thomas Jefferson

duke

2012-06-21 20:19:39 UTC

Post by duke
I've never run away, never backed down on a discussion of the universe and
it's origin.

You have never produced any objective physical evidence suporting any
one of your claims, so you have produced no more that a random puff of
itching powder would.

That itching powder has been poured into your pants.

The dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

Uergil

2012-06-21 20:32:33 UTC

Post by duke
I've never run away, never backed down on a discussion of the universe and
it's origin.

You have never produced any objective physical evidence suporting any
one of your claims, so you have produced no more that a random puff of
itching powder would.

That itching powder has been poured into your pants.

And, as usual with duckgumbo's attempts, has failed to act.

--
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less
remote from the- truth who believes nothing than
he who believes what is wrong.
Thomas Jefferson

raven1

2012-06-18 14:51:15 UTC

Post by raven1
On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 06:22:42 -0700 (PDT), darwinist

You mean the new group hasn't grown bigger than the old, established
group? And they've already had a whole month? That's incredible.
Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

[...]
Quantity of activity isn't the same as level of preference. There are
factors such as quantity of opportunity to take into account as well.
If people participate in two groups and one is substantially bigger,
then it's not surprising they post more in the bigger one, even if
they like the smaller one better.
Given the low quality of your trolling I can see why someone would
want to start a moderated group to filter it out.

It's pretty damned funny that Fasgnadh has his panties in such a knot
over not being invited to the party.

Your's will get to be a very boring party in aa.mod.

Sour grapes.

Oh, no. My message goes out here.

Then quit whining.

duke

2012-06-18 21:47:15 UTC

Post by raven1
On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 06:22:42 -0700 (PDT), darwinist

You mean the new group hasn't grown bigger than the old, established
group? And they've already had a whole month? That's incredible.
Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

[...]
Quantity of activity isn't the same as level of preference. There are
factors such as quantity of opportunity to take into account as well.
If people participate in two groups and one is substantially bigger,
then it's not surprising they post more in the bigger one, even if
they like the smaller one better.
Given the low quality of your trolling I can see why someone would
want to start a moderated group to filter it out.

It's pretty damned funny that Fasgnadh has his panties in such a knot
over not being invited to the party.

Your's will get to be a very boring party in aa.mod.

Sour grapes.

Oh, no. My message goes out here.

Then quit whining.

I'm not. You see, my message goes out here.

duke, American - American

*****
Warning: alt.atheism.mod is not a moderated newsgroup. It
instead allows selected censorship blocking of non-perferred
content and personal insult based on censor preference.
aa.mod is a voliation of free speech and should be
reported to the Federal Communication Commission.
*****

raven1

2012-06-19 12:34:24 UTC

Post by raven1
On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 06:22:42 -0700 (PDT), darwinist

You mean the new group hasn't grown bigger than the old, established
group? And they've already had a whole month? That's incredible.
Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

[...]
Quantity of activity isn't the same as level of preference. There are
factors such as quantity of opportunity to take into account as well.
If people participate in two groups and one is substantially bigger,
then it's not surprising they post more in the bigger one, even if
they like the smaller one better.
Given the low quality of your trolling I can see why someone would
want to start a moderated group to filter it out.

It's pretty damned funny that Fasgnadh has his panties in such a knot
over not being invited to the party.

Your's will get to be a very boring party in aa.mod.

Sour grapes.

Oh, no. My message goes out here.

Then quit whining.

I'm not.

What do you call it, then? Bitching?

Post by duke
You see, my message goes out here.

Then quit whining about aam.

duke

2012-06-20 16:59:32 UTC

Post by raven1
On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 06:22:42 -0700 (PDT), darwinist

You mean the new group hasn't grown bigger than the old, established
group? And they've already had a whole month? That's incredible.
Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

[...]
Quantity of activity isn't the same as level of preference. There are
factors such as quantity of opportunity to take into account as well.
If people participate in two groups and one is substantially bigger,
then it's not surprising they post more in the bigger one, even if
they like the smaller one better.
Given the low quality of your trolling I can see why someone would
want to start a moderated group to filter it out.

It's pretty damned funny that Fasgnadh has his panties in such a knot
over not being invited to the party.

Your's will get to be a very boring party in aa.mod.

Sour grapes.

Oh, no. My message goes out here.

Then quit whining.

I'm not.

What do you call it, then? Bitching?

Kicking ass.

Post by duke
You see, my message goes out here.

Then quit whining about aam.

I don't hang around aa.m. That turned out to be nothing but a censorship ng, so
I move on to where free speech is welcome.

duke, American - American

*****
Warning: alt.atheism.mod is not a moderated newsgroup. It
instead allows selected censorship blocking of non-perferred
content and personal insult based on censor preference.
aa.mod is a voliation of free speech and should be
reported to the Federal Communication Commission.
*****

raven1

2012-06-20 18:15:31 UTC

Post by raven1
Then quit whining.

I'm not.

What do you call it, then? Bitching?

Kicking ass.

Another cousin of Monty Python's Black Knight, I see...

fasgnadh

2012-06-16 06:09:27 UTC

raven1 pretends a.a.m is interesting,but his ACTIONS tell the truth: B^]

Post by raven1
On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 06:22:42 -0700 (PDT), darwinist

It's pretty damned funny

Hilarious, almost as funny as this:

236 for group:alt.atheism author:raven1.
5 for group:alt.atheism.moderated author:raven1.

Post by raven1
even funnier

absolutely hilarious! B^D

Post by fasgnadh
BWEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAHHAAAA

Watching these atheist trolls hysterically trying to shore up
interest in alt.atheism.moderatedByAtheistTrolls, while the actions
of each of them PROVES what pathetic liars they are.

Post by fasgnadh
i told you they would get BORED with their own whining and
would come crawling back to the NG they ABANDONED because
they were now OUTNUMBERED as atheism continues to decline,
As Mike LEnin admitted when they all retreated from the contest
of ideas they were ALWAYS LOSING; B^D
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# Subject: Re: alt.atheism.moderated - It's alive again,
# non-fuctional atm
# Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 13:46:16 -0500
#
# On 2012-05-26, Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess
#
# > I've recently been considering an exit plan for this
# > "alt.atheism" newsgroup because I find the proselytizing
# > religious right-wing-nuts repeatedly attempting to re-define
# > atheism as a theology,
# > among other things, to be tiring and stupid.
#
# I think a lot of people have been lost over the years
Oh you pathetic HYPOCRITES! B^D
Even findem turdbar prefers the OPEN NG to the MORIBUND one! B^D
180 for group:alt.atheism author:Fidem author:Turbare
78 for group:alt.atheism.moderated author:Fidem author:Turbare
As I keep telling you, the deceitful atheist trolls SAY one thing,
but DO another, they are hypocrites and frauds and nothing they
say can be believed

They can no longer pretend that anyone who MOCKS the already apparent
FAILURE of Atheist.Pleasantville "has his panties in such a knot
over not being invited to the party" because clearly NONE OF THEM
WANT TO BE THERE EITHER!!!!!!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA!

There is no Party, it's a WAKE! B^]

Lets at least make it a New Orleans one, have some happy MUSIC as the
corpse of Atheism in USENET is BURIED!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAAA

Post by fasgnadh
It is not the BELIEFS and opinions of atheist trolls which defines
atheism but their actions! B^]
And they all spell DEFEAT for the atheist trolls! B^]

if we started a newsgroup open to everyone except him

It would be the same OUTCOME, you stupid atheist trolls,,

NO ONE WOULD WANT To POST THERE..

NOT EVEN **YOU**

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!

"Oh Please Brer atheist.. pleas don't run away from your NG leaving
me victorious and find that EVERYONE stays here with ME
and you atheist trolls are DYING OF LONLINESS and BOREDOM!!!"

Uergil

2012-06-16 06:49:02 UTC

Post by fasgnadh
raven1 pretends a.a.m is interesting

One does not have to pretend that it is infinitely more interesting to
non-trolls than Fasgnadh's trolling.

--
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less
remote from the- truth who believes nothing than
he who believes what is wrong.
Thomas Jefferson

fasgnadh

2012-06-16 07:11:28 UTC

Post by fasgnadh
raven1 pretends a.a.m is interesting,but his ACTIONS tell the truth: B^]

darwinist also SAYS a.a.m is so wonderful he doesn't post there either! B^D ;

Darwinist hasn't evolved a taste for atheist propaganda either: B^D

3 for group:alt.atheism author:darwinist
group:alt.atheism.moderated author:darwinist-did not match any documents

Post by fasgnadh
Even the troll who conned all the atheist sheep into pandering
to his ego by setting it up, PREFERS to post in FREE USENET; B^D
625 for group:alt.atheism author:Mike author:Lovell
159 for group:alt.atheism.moderated author:Mike author:Lovell
226 for group:alt.atheism author:Christopher author:Lee.
190 for group:alt.atheism.moderated author:Christopher author:Lee.
those two are the Chief Censors of the moderated NG and even
they prefer to have REAL DISCUSSIONS elsewhere!!!!

It's pretty damned funny

236 for group:alt.atheism author:raven1.
5 for group:alt.atheism.moderated author:raven1.

even funnier

absolutely hilarious! B^D

Post by fasgnadh
BWEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAHHAAAA

Watching these atheist trolls hysterically trying to shore up
interest in alt.atheism.moderatedByAtheistTrolls, while the actions
of each of them PROVES what pathetic liars they are.

They can no longer pretend that anyone who MOCKS the already apparent
FAILURE of Atheist.Pleasantville "has his panties in such a knot
over not being invited to the party" because clearly NONE OF THEM
WANT TO BE THERE EITHER!!!!!!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA!
There is no Party, it's a WAKE! B^]
Lets at least make it a New Orleans one, have some happy MUSIC as the
corpse of Atheism in USENET is BURIED!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAAA

Post by fasgnadh
It is not the BELIEFS and opinions of atheist trolls which defines
atheism but their actions! B^]
And they all spell DEFEAT for the atheist trolls! B^]

if we started a newsgroup open to everyone except him

It would be the same OUTCOME, you stupid atheist trolls,,
NO ONE WOULD WANT To POST THERE..
NOT EVEN **YOU**
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!
"Oh Please Brer atheist.. pleas don't run away from your NG leaving
me victorious and find that EVERYONE stays here with ME
and you atheist trolls are DYING OF LONLINESS and BOREDOM!!!"

Zinnic explains that shrinking atheist participation in USENET
is a DELIBERATE policy, so they don't look so stupid so often! B^D

Like this:

# From: Zinnic <***@gmail.com>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.philosophy,aus.politics
# Subject: Re: alt.atheism.moderated fails in it's first month! B^D
# Postings for June 2012 to date! - Even the atheist trolls PREFER
# the unmoderated group to their sad, boring moderated one! B^D
# Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 07:06:26 -0700 (PDT)
# Message-ID: <38cb96af-8e80-4d67-
a2ba-***@z2g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>
#
# Is is obvious that participants in that group prefer
# that it be smaller and restricted
#
# Zinnic

OH YOU CAN EASILY ACHIEVE THAT.. B^]

..and when you reach ZERO participation
you will have completed your manifest destiny!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA

Orwellian Atheist NewSpeak: "Shrinking to irrelevance is winning" B^D

One does not have to pretend that it isinteresting

not even atheist trolls can pretend it is! B^D

AS THEIR ACTIONS IN AVOIDING IT PROVE!!!!

fasgnadh

2012-06-23 01:39:05 UTC

darwinist also SAYS a.a.m is so wonderful he doesn't post there either! B^D ;

Cut to the chase: B^]

because it's a smaller group in it's first month
that therefore it's a failure

It's not just that the NUMBERS pf posts it gets are pathetically
small, indicating the profound disinterest by EVERYONE,
not just atheists, but that all those HYPOCRITES who claimed
that the clash of differing opinions was, to their closed
minds and ears, 'noise' they couldn't stand.. THEY STILL POST,
MOST OF THE TIME, IN the FREE, OPEN NG's, NOT IN that pit
of BOREDOM AND MENDACITY:

a.a.m.

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA

And >>you<< PROVE MY POINT! B^D

At the time of the survey you, like most atheists,
HAD NOT EVER POSTED TO IT.

I don't know if that's still the case, neither I nor anyone else
really cares what you athesits say, because your ACTIONS speak
LOUDER than your worthless, lying, WORDS!

Who would bother with such mendacious propagandists as you atheists
have demonstrated yourselves to be?

a.a.m is the sheltered workshop for those who simply cannot
rationally debate their ideas because Atheist Dogma...

- is clearly wrong.
Almost everything is smaller

When interest is less. It's an Iron Law of REALITY! B^D

when it's newer,

Rubbish, Pyramids and snowflakes both illustrate that
most objects wear down, or as with snowflakes and a.a.m

MELT DOWN into a puddle! B^D

Poor old a.a.m NO ONE CARES ! B^D

so it proves nothing.

Atheists NEVER DO!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAAAA

Now you pretend I said something completely different,

Now, I summarised your ACTIONS as they SPEAK LOUDER
and MORE TRUTHFUL in PROVING your words are LIES!

Q.E.D.

but anyone interested can scroll up and see for
themselves what was actually said.

And that, like the constant stream of PROPAGANDA LIES
from EVERY atheist regime in history, what you say
was CONTRADICTED by what you do! B^D

No one believes atheists, they are congenital PROPAGANDA TOOLS!

As you admit now that I have EXPOSED the incongruence between
your words (false) and actions(proof of the falsity of your words);

Darwinist hasn't evolved a taste for atheist propaganda either: B^D
3 for group:alt.atheism author:darwinist
group:alt.atheism.moderated author:darwinist-did not match any documents

Another great example of your conclusion not following from your
premise. The fact is I *have* evolved a taste for atheist propaganda.

Not inside a.a.m ...which was my point!!! B^]

Are you intentionally dimwitted?

Everyone knows that atheist propaganda is directed at non-atheists,
it's the standard technique for BRAINWASHING;

"Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

I *love* atheist propaganda.

Da, Tovarish, ya znaeoo! B^D

I've even read some of it

Now that is above and beyond the call of Atheist Stoogery! B^D

So you claim you only READ a.a.m. (how else could you
say anything about it ;-) ... and like the Good
Atheists in every atheist state, you have NO COMMENT!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA

I've also never posted there.

And NEITHER DO MOST PEOPLE!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA

Including THE ATHEISTS!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAA

You know why, don't you?

I assume most people are intelligent

BINGO!

That's why all atheist regimes fail, and all the free, open
progressive secular democracies have been developed by MAJORITY
RELIGIOUS SOCIETIES, with whom we agnostics work well. B^]

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAA

I think you're intelligent enough to see it as well

Oh sure, my role is to EXPOSE that reality so that the gullible
and stupid do not follow those pointless and irrelevant but
historically deadly ideologies that cause terror, torture and
mass murder on an unprecedented scale, as was witnessed in EVERY
atheist regime in history! 8^o

what's a true or what's a valid argument,

Oh, I see you REALISE that you can only have that sort of discussion
in open FREE USENET.. that's why we are having it here, and not in
a.a.m!

THANK YOU FOR PLAYING AND PROVING MY POINT!

what you think makes atheism look bad.

No, *THAT I am FREE* to Think and Speak about what ATHEISM DOES
is what makes atheism looks bad!

That's why FreeThinkers are in open Free Usenet and Atheist
STOOGES, TOOLS, DRONES and SHEEP are in their SHELTERED WORKSHOP!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH!

Like (stinking dead) fish in a barrel! B^D

Bang Bang! B^D

However you're doing yourself no favours

Of course not, that's the sort of behaviour we expect from
EVERY atheist tyrant, all corrupt and venal;

by drawing so many obviously wrong conclusions from the facts.

" ...the propaganda of atheism."
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

I aim for higher ground, simple truth, rationally argued
with evidence, that others can FREELY DEBATE! B^]

Atheist propaganda DOES NOT WORK because it is FALSE
and therefore CAN'T DELIVER;

"At the dawn of the 20th Century approximately one half of the world's
population identified itself as either Muslim, Catholic, Protestant,
Hindu or Buddhist, and 100 years of secularism, and technological
advancement, and scientific progress later and that number is now
two thirds.

So, for those of you who enjoy beginning coffee shop
conversations with "The Death of God" .. it's time to change
the subject! It's time to talk about something else , because
it's not happening at all.

People are becoming more religious, not less religious,
and religion itself is also evolving"

- Dr Reza Aslan

http://www.abc.net.au/rn/bigideas/stories/2010/2929354.htm

So, as a self confessed atheist propagandist, how do you
explain the MANIFEST FAILURE of it's propaganda to
swell the dwindling ranks of atheism?

people write you off as not worth listening to.

Surveys show that is correct:

# Atheists Identified as America’s Most Distrusted Minority"
# - American Sociological Association, ASA NEWS
#
# "A survey by sociologists at the University of Minnesota
# found that atheists are “America’s most distrusted minority.”
#
# "From a telephone sampling of more than 2,000 households,
# university researchers found that Americans rate atheists
# below Muslims, recent immigrants, gays and lesbians and
# other minority groups in “sharing their vision of
# American society.”
#
# Atheists are also the minority group most Americans are
# least willing to allow their children to marry.
#
# Even though atheists are few in number, not formally
# organized and relatively hard to publicly identify,
# they are seen as a threat to the American way of life
# by a large portion of the American public.
#
# Many of the study’s respondents associated atheism with
# an array of moral indiscretions ranging from criminal
# behavior to rampant materialism and cultural elitism.
#
# Edgell believes a fear of moral decline and resulting
# social disorder is behind the findings.
# “Americans believe they share more than rules and
# procedures with their fellow citizens—they share an
# understanding of right and wrong,” she said. “Our
# findings seem to rest on a view of atheists as
# self-interested individuals who are not concerned
# with the common good.”
#
# The study is co-authored by assistant professor
# Joseph Gerteis and associate professor Doug Hartmann.
# It’s the first in a series of national studies conducted
# the American Mosaic Project, a three-year project funded
# by the Minneapolis-based David Edelstein Family Foundation
# that looks at race, religion and cultural diversity in
# the contemporary United States."
--
When it was revealed that alt.atheism.moderated.by.bigots.and.trolls
was declining in it's daily traffic, Mike Lenin from Pravda
Propaganda set about to "FIX" it: B^D

# From: Mike Lovell <***@b0h0.com>
# Subject: The atheism is faith based destruction question
# Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 22:24:25 -0500
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism.moderated,alt.atheism
# Followup-To: alt.atheism.moderated
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

# From: Mike Lovell <***@b0h0.com>
# Subject: AA: What happens after you die
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism.moderated,alt.atheism
# Followup-To: alt.atheism.moderated
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

atheist parasites SIPHON your posts! B^D

---------

The foremost atheist Philosopher of our age recently
launched his new book "Religion for Atheists" and
no atheists are interested in talking about it:

http://altatheismfaq.blogspot.com.au/

- Alain de Botton, Lanching his new Book, Religion for Atheists
The Wheeler Centre, Melbourne 19/3/2012

http://www.abc.net.au/tv/bigideas/stories/2012/03/19/3455152.htm

---------

alt.atheism FAQ:

http://altatheismfaq.blogspot.com/

http://groups.google.com.au/group/alt.atheism/msg/7c0978c14fd4ed37?hl=en&dmode=source

"Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

"We must combat religion"
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

“Down with religion and long live atheism;
the dissemination of atheist views is our chief task!”
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

"Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8290?context=latest

http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8295?context=latest

http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:6348?context=latest

http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17478?context=latest

"How can you make a revolution without firing squads?"
- Lenin

http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17475?context=latest

http://www.c96trading.com/Nagant_NKVD_300h.jpg

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01001/Tsar-family_1001874c.jpg

Uergil

2012-06-23 04:09:05 UTC

In article <%69Fr.8370$***@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com>,
fasgnadh <***@yahoo.com> wrote:

About nothing but how crushed he is that his trolling is rejected by
a.a.mod.

And on that subject he posted at nauseously great length.

--
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less
remote from the- truth who believes nothing than
he who believes what is wrong.
Thomas Jefferson

HVAC

2012-06-16 14:58:33 UTC

Post by raven1
It's pretty damned funny that Fasgnadh has his panties in such a knot
over not being invited to the party. It would be even funnier if we
started a newsgroup open to everyone except him.

That's exactly something a schoolyard bully would say......

"HE is different...Let's not let him in our club".

--
"OK you cunts, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl

fasgnadh

2012-06-17 01:53:39 UTC

Post by raven1
It's pretty damned funny that Fasgnadh has his panties in such a knot
over not being invited to the party.

A Party that not even the atheist hypocrites want to BE AT?
Including Ravin1! B^D

I said from DAY 1 that I would NEVER post to a NG controlled by atheist
trolls, and now, EVEN THE ATHEISTS AGREE WITH ME, and are ABANDONING IT!
B^]

The REAL attitude of atheists toward a.a.m; B^]

Comparison of posts for 1/6/2012 to 15/6/2012

34 for group:alt.atheism author:Budikka666
1 for group:alt.atheism.moderated author:Budikka666

281 for group:alt.atheism author:Syd M.
group:alt.atheism.moderated author:Syd M - did not match any documents.

225 for group:alt.atheism author:Yap.
10 for group:alt.atheism.moderated author:Yap

10 for group:alt.atheism author:Immortalist.
1 for group:alt.atheism.moderated author:Immortalist.

435 for group:alt.atheism author:Jeanne author:Douglas.
10 for group:alt.atheism.moderated author:Jeanne author:Douglas

180 for group:alt.atheism author:Fidem author:Turbare
78 for group:alt.atheism.moderated author:Fidem author:Turbare

296 for group:alt.atheism author:Uergil.
group:alt.atheism.moderated author:Uergil - did not match any documents

3 for group:alt.atheism author:darwinist
group:alt.atheism.moderated author:darwinist-did not match any documents

408 for group:alt.atheism author:Smiler
46 for group:alt.atheism.moderated author:Smiler

170 for group:alt.atheism author:Devils Advocaat
5 for group:alt.atheism.moderated author:Devils Advocaat.

Even the troll who conned all the atheist sheep into pandering
to his ego by setting it up, PREFERS to post in FREE USENET;

625 for group:alt.atheism author:Mike author:Lovell
159 for group:alt.atheism.moderated author:Mike author:Lovell

226 for group:alt.atheism author:Christopher author:Lee.
190 for group:alt.atheism.moderated author:Christopher author:Lee.

those two are the Chief Censors of the moderated NG and even
they prefer to have REAL DISCUSSIONS elsewhere!!!!

" It's pretty damned funny " raven1

Hilarious, almost as funny as this:

236 for group:alt.atheism author:raven1.
5 for group:alt.atheism.moderated author:raven1.

absolutely hilarious! B^D

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAHHAAAA

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAA

Post by raven1
It would be even funnier if we
started a newsgroup open to everyone except him.

That's exactly something a schoolyard bully would say......

Yes, Ravin1 reveals that their real purpose, now revealed as
utterly failed, was to protect atheist trolls fom the questions
I raise about every atheist state in history by HIDING ina sheltered
workshop! Clearly I am their NEMESIS! B^D

Post by HVAC
"HE is different...Let's not let him in our club".

I would never join it! B^D Neither do most atheists! B^]

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAAAAA!

It's that atheist HATRED of dissent and debate, freedom of thought,
belief and speech, which is why no atheist regime was ever a decent
democratic state and atheism did not produce a single great or
enduring civilisation:

# From: raven1 <***@nevermore.com>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# Subject: Re: Anyone seen Hysteria, Abu Baker Bashir
# and Kelsey Bjarnyard? B^D
# Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:15:11 -0500
# Message-ID: <***@4ax.com>
#
# > raven1 wrote:
# >
# >> Even under officially atheistic regimes such as Stalin's,

# From: raven1 <***@nevermore.com>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# Subject: Re: Anyone seen Hysteria, Abu Baker Bashir and Kelsey
Bjarnyard? B^D
# Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:15:11 -0500
# Message-ID: <***@4ax.com>
#
# There has never been a "Great, Enduring Atheist Civilization"

But Ravin1 is part of group of atheist hypocrites and trolls who
PRETEND that their moderated NG is "A PARTY".. one that is so dull
that even the atheists GO HOME before it even starts!!!!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA

Post by HVAC
raven1 pretends a.a.m is interesting,but his ACTIONS tell the truth: B^]

Post by raven1
On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 06:22:42 -0700 (PDT), darwinist

It's pretty damned funny

Hilarious, almost as funny as this:

236 for group:alt.atheism author:raven1.
5 for group:alt.atheism.moderated author:raven1.

Post by raven1
even funnier

absolutely hilarious! B^D

Post by fasgnadh
BWEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAHHAAAA

Watching these atheist trolls hysterically trying to shore up
interest in alt.atheism.moderatedByAtheistTrolls, while the actions
of each of them PROVES what pathetic liars they are.

Post by fasgnadh
It is not the BELIEFS and opinions of atheist trolls which defines
atheism but their actions! B^]
And they all spell DEFEAT for the atheist trolls! B^]

if we started a newsgroup open to everyone except him

Zinnic

2012-06-15 14:06:26 UTC

You mean the new group hasn't grown bigger than the old, established
group? And they've already had a whole month? That's incredible.
Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

[...]
Quantity of activity isn't the same as level of preference. There are
factors such as quantity of opportunity to take into account as well.
If people participate in two groups and one is substantially bigger,
then it's not surprising they post more in the bigger one, even if
they like the smaller one better.
Given the low quality of your trolling I can see why someone would
want to start a moderated group to filter it out.

Fasgnadh's criticism of the moderated alt.atheism group is inane.
Is is obvious that participants in that group prefer that it be
smaller and restricted to discussions they consider to be more
relevant to the pros and cons of religious belief/unbelief. Posts such
as this one, yours to which it is a response, and all of fasgnadh's
would be 'moderated out' as being of little interest.
Even in this unmoderated group I have no interest in his posts which
are no more than frustrated rants (to himself) at not being taken
seriously by most readers.

Zinnic

duke

2012-06-15 16:42:38 UTC

You mean the new group hasn't grown bigger than the old, established
group? And they've already had a whole month? That's incredible.
Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

[...]
Quantity of activity isn't the same as level of preference. There are
factors such as quantity of opportunity to take into account as well.
If people participate in two groups and one is substantially bigger,
then it's not surprising they post more in the bigger one, even if
they like the smaller one better.
Given the low quality of your trolling I can see why someone would
want to start a moderated group to filter it out.

Fasgnadh's criticism of the moderated alt.atheism group is inane.

All aa.mod comes to is a culling center used to censor free speech. I agree
with fasgnadh.

The dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

raven1

2012-06-15 17:05:33 UTC

You mean the new group hasn't grown bigger than the old, established
group? And they've already had a whole month? That's incredible.
Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

[...]
Quantity of activity isn't the same as level of preference. There are
factors such as quantity of opportunity to take into account as well.
If people participate in two groups and one is substantially bigger,
then it's not surprising they post more in the bigger one, even if
they like the smaller one better.
Given the low quality of your trolling I can see why someone would
want to start a moderated group to filter it out.

Fasgnadh's criticism of the moderated alt.atheism group is inane.

All aa.mod comes to is a culling center used to censor free speech. I agree
with fasgnadh.

Color me surprised that you'd agree with a barking loon.

duke

2012-06-16 18:08:16 UTC

You mean the new group hasn't grown bigger than the old, established
group? And they've already had a whole month? That's incredible.
Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

[...]
Quantity of activity isn't the same as level of preference. There are
factors such as quantity of opportunity to take into account as well.
If people participate in two groups and one is substantially bigger,
then it's not surprising they post more in the bigger one, even if
they like the smaller one better.
Given the low quality of your trolling I can see why someone would
want to start a moderated group to filter it out.

Fasgnadh's criticism of the moderated alt.atheism group is inane.

All aa.mod comes to is a culling center used to censor free speech. I agree
with fasgnadh.

Color me surprised that you'd agree with a barking loon.

But I DO NOT agree with you. Don't you get it?

duke, American - American

*****
Warning: alt.atheism.mod is not a moderated newsgroup. It
instead allows selected censorship blocking of non-perferred
content and personal insult based on censor preference.
aa.mod is a voliation of free speech and should be
reported to the Federal Communication Commission.
*****

darwinist

2012-06-20 04:01:25 UTC

You mean the new group hasn't grown bigger than the old, established
group? And they've already had a whole month? That's incredible.
Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

[...]
Quantity of activity isn't the same as level of preference. There are
factors such as quantity of opportunity to take into account as well.
If people participate in two groups and one is substantially bigger,
then it's not surprising they post more in the bigger one, even if
they like the smaller one better.
Given the low quality of your trolling I can see why someone would
want to start a moderated group to filter it out.

Fasgnadh's criticism of the moderated alt.atheism group is inane.

All aa.mod comes to is a culling center used to censor free speech. I agree
with fasgnadh.

Color me surprised that you'd agree with a barking loon.

But I DO NOT agree with you. Don't you get it?
duke, American - American
*****
Warning: alt.atheism.mod is not a moderated newsgroup. It
instead allows selected censorship blocking of non-perferred
content and personal insult based on censor preference.
aa.mod is a voliation of free speech and should be
reported to the Federal Communication Commission.
*****

Are you suggesting that there should be no moderated discussion groups
on the internet? Should they all be reported to the FCC? Is it not
fair that owners or operators of discussion groups are allowed to set
their own guidelines and to filter out what they think is either spam,
absusive, irrelevant, or otherwise violates the guidelines they choose
for their own group?

What about all the other moderated newsgroups? What about all the
other moderated forums of other kinds on the web? Should they all be
shut down, or forced to open up to every spammer, shouter, troller,
bully, or bot?

Or do you just apply a different standard when you don't like group in
question?

duke

2012-06-20 17:02:44 UTC

You mean the new group hasn't grown bigger than the old, established
group? And they've already had a whole month? That's incredible.
Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

[...]
Quantity of activity isn't the same as level of preference. There are
factors such as quantity of opportunity to take into account as well.
If people participate in two groups and one is substantially bigger,
then it's not surprising they post more in the bigger one, even if
they like the smaller one better.
Given the low quality of your trolling I can see why someone would
want to start a moderated group to filter it out.

Fasgnadh's criticism of the moderated alt.atheism group is inane.

All aa.mod comes to is a culling center used to censor free speech. I agree
with fasgnadh.

Color me surprised that you'd agree with a barking loon.

But I DO NOT agree with you. Don't you get it?
duke, American - American

Are you suggesting that there should be no moderated discussion groups
on the internet?

No, I'm not. The point of a moderated ng is to keep the discussion civil, not
censored as is the case in aa.mod.

Post by darwinist
Should they all be reported to the FCC?

Personally, I thinks blocking free speech should definitely be reported to the
FCC.

Post by darwinist
Is it not
fair that owners or operators of discussion groups are allowed to set
their own guidelines and to filter out what they think is either spam,
absusive, irrelevant, or otherwise violates the guidelines they choose
for their own group?

I guess it's ok as long as they include free speech censorship in their charter.

Post by darwinist
What about all the other moderated newsgroups? What about all the
other moderated forums of other kinds on the web? Should they all be
shut down, or forced to open up to every spammer, shouter, troller,
bully, or bot?

I was on the best - Compuserve. They kept close taps on civility in discussion.
They didn't censor free speech.

Post by darwinist
Or do you just apply a different standard when you don't like group in
question?

Same rules.

The dukester, American-American
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Pope Paul VI
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raven1

2012-06-20 18:17:50 UTC

Post by duke
Personally, I thinks blocking free speech should definitely be reported to the
FCC.

Please do so. Let us know what they say in response. My guess is that
it will be along the lines of "Bwahahahahahaha! What an idiot!".

duke

2012-06-21 21:05:28 UTC

Post by duke
Personally, I thinks blocking free speech should definitely be reported to the
FCC.

Please do so. Let us know what they say in response. My guess is that
it will be along the lines of "Bwahahahahahaha! What an idiot!".

Bill of Rights
Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of
the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the
government for a redress of grievances.

I'd say you're wrong if they found out about aa.mod.

The dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

Uergil

2012-06-22 03:35:43 UTC

Post by duke
Personally, I thinks blocking free speech should definitely be reported to the
FCC.

Please do so. Let us know what they say in response. My guess is that
it will be along the lines of "Bwahahahahahaha! What an idiot!".

Bill of Rights

The bill of rights does not apply to INTERNATIONAL communications like
newsnet NGs.

--
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less
remote from the- truth who believes nothing than
he who believes what is wrong.
Thomas Jefferson

raven1

2012-06-22 12:21:38 UTC

Post by duke
Personally, I thinks blocking free speech should definitely be reported to the
FCC.

Please do so. Let us know what they say in response. My guess is that
it will be along the lines of "Bwahahahahahaha! What an idiot!".

Bill of Rights
Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of
the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the
government for a redress of grievances.
I'd say you're wrong if they found out about aa.mod.

If you think so, then stop your eternal whining, and report it to the
FCC. Please. I eagerly await hearing what they have to say in
response.

duke

2012-06-22 18:17:10 UTC

Post by duke
Personally, I thinks blocking free speech should definitely be reported to the
FCC.

Please do so. Let us know what they say in response. My guess is that
it will be along the lines of "Bwahahahahahaha! What an idiot!".

Bill of Rights
Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of
the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the
government for a redress of grievances.
I'd say you're wrong if they found out about aa.mod.

If you think so, then stop your eternal whining, and report it to the
FCC. Please. I eagerly await hearing what they have to say in
response.

Not me. I'm thru with aa.mod.

The dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

raven1

2012-06-22 18:26:58 UTC

Post by duke
Personally, I thinks blocking free speech should definitely be reported to the
FCC.

Please do so. Let us know what they say in response. My guess is that
it will be along the lines of "Bwahahahahahaha! What an idiot!".

Bill of Rights
Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of
the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the
government for a redress of grievances.
I'd say you're wrong if they found out about aa.mod.

If you think so, then stop your eternal whining, and report it to the
FCC. Please. I eagerly await hearing what they have to say in
response.

Not me. I'm thru with aa.mod.

Then quit whining.

duke

2012-06-23 17:54:27 UTC

Post by duke
Personally, I thinks blocking free speech should definitely be reported to the
FCC.

Please do so. Let us know what they say in response. My guess is that
it will be along the lines of "Bwahahahahahaha! What an idiot!".

Bill of Rights
Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of
the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the
government for a redress of grievances.
I'd say you're wrong if they found out about aa.mod.

If you think so, then stop your eternal whining, and report it to the
FCC. Please. I eagerly await hearing what they have to say in
response.

Not me. I'm thru with aa.mod.

Then quit whining.

No, I want the world including the FCC to find out.

duke, American - American

*****
Warning: alt.atheism.mod is not a moderated newsgroup. It
instead allows selected censorship blocking of non-perferred
content and personal insult based on censor preference.
aa.mod is a voliation of free speech and should be
reported to the Federal Communication Commission.
*****

darwinist

2012-06-22 13:36:17 UTC

Post by duke
Personally, I thinks blocking free speech should definitely be reported to the
FCC.

Please do so. Let us know what they say in response. My guess is that
it will be along the lines of "Bwahahahahahaha! What an idiot!".

Bill of Rights
Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of
the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the
government for a redress of grievances.
I'd say you're wrong if they found out about aa.mod.

Please read that amendment again. Specifically the words, "Congress",
and "Law". In trying to apply this to a.a.m you might as well be
arguing that newspapers shall make no guidelines about what they
choose to print. In fact freedom of the press - from that same
amendment you value so much - is the freedom to set your own rules
when operating a newsletter, forum, website, podcast, comic-strip or
whatever. The 1st amendment says "Congress shall make no law", not
"forum operators shall make no guidelines". There is no congress or
law involved here.

You just don't like atheism and can't see straight as a result. Admit
your mistake. Correct it. Move on.

duke

2012-06-22 18:06:30 UTC

Post by duke
Personally, I thinks blocking free speech should definitely be reported to the
FCC.

Please do so. Let us know what they say in response. My guess is that
it will be along the lines of "Bwahahahahahaha! What an idiot!".

Bill of Rights
Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of
the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the
government for a redress of grievances.
I'd say you're wrong if they found out about aa.mod.

No, it's just the reverse to that. The Bill of Rights dictated what speech is
free. And Papers and air waves are given use of public features to advise
truth. To promote falsehoods is a violation of the law.

Post by darwinist
In fact freedom of the press - from that same
amendment you value so much - is the freedom to set your own rules
when operating a newsletter, forum, website, podcast, comic-strip or
whatever.

Right, you must be truthful.

Post by darwinist
The 1st amendment says "Congress shall make no law", not
"forum operators shall make no guidelines". There is no congress or
law involved here.

You better read the Bill of Rights again and find where it promotes untruths
which is exactly what censorship of free speech is.

Post by darwinist
You just don't like atheism and can't see straight as a result. Admit
your mistake. Correct it. Move on.

The dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

Smiler

2012-06-23 05:03:35 UTC

On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 14:17:50 -0400, raven1

Post by duke
Personally, I thinks blocking free speech should definitely be
reported to the FCC.

Please do so. Let us know what they say in response. My guess is that
it will be along the lines of "Bwahahahahahaha! What an idiot!".

Bill of Rights
Amendment I
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of
speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to
assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
I'd say you're wrong if they found out about aa.mod.

No, it's just the reverse to that. The Bill of Rights dictated what
speech is free. And Papers and air waves are given use of public features

So you don't advocate censorship of any kind. TV programs promoting gay
marriage? TV programs promoting abortion? Newspaper articles about the
stupidity of religion? Atheist hoardings? Porn pictures involving children?

Post by duke
to advise truth. To promote falsehoods is a violation of the law.

Cite? I know you won't, because you can't.

In fact freedom of the press - from that same
amendment you value so much - is the freedom to set your own rules when
operating a newsletter, forum, website, podcast, comic-strip or whatever.

Right, you must be truthful.

So how does Fox News get away with it?

The 1st amendment says "Congress shall make no law", not
"forum operators shall make no guidelines". There is no congress or law
involved here.

You better read the Bill of Rights again and find where it promotes
untruths which is exactly what censorship of free speech is.

You just don't like atheism and can't see straight as a result. Admit
your mistake. Correct it. Move on.

Well?

Post by duke
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*****
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*****

--
Smiler,
The godless one. a.a.# 2279
All gods are tailored to order. They're made to
exactly fit the prejudices of their believers.

Uergil

2012-06-20 19:24:36 UTC

Post by darwinist
Are you suggesting that there should be no moderated discussion groups
on the internet?

No, I'm not. The point of a moderated ng is to keep the discussion civil, not
censored as is the case in aa.mod.

What is your evidence that moderating and censoring are any different?

--
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less
remote from the- truth who believes nothing than
he who believes what is wrong.
Thomas Jefferson

duke

2012-06-21 20:20:10 UTC

Post by darwinist
Are you suggesting that there should be no moderated discussion groups
on the internet?

No, I'm not. The point of a moderated ng is to keep the discussion civil, not
censored as is the case in aa.mod.

What is your evidence that moderating and censoring are any different?

Only an intelligent person would understand.

The dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

Uergil

2012-06-21 20:33:10 UTC

Post by darwinist
Are you suggesting that there should be no moderated discussion groups
on the internet?

No, I'm not. The point of a moderated ng is to keep the discussion civil, not
censored as is the case in aa.mod.

What is your evidence that moderating and censoring are any different?

Only an intelligent person would understand.

That leaves out duckgumbo!

--
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less
remote from the- truth who believes nothing than
he who believes what is wrong.
Thomas Jefferson

duke

2012-06-22 17:26:14 UTC

Post by darwinist
Are you suggesting that there should be no moderated discussion groups
on the internet?

No, I'm not. The point of a moderated ng is to keep the discussion civil, not
censored as is the case in aa.mod.

What is your evidence that moderating and censoring are any different?

Only an intelligent person would understand.

That leaves out duckgumbo!

But I do understand you clearly show you don't.

The dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

darwinist

2012-06-21 00:07:46 UTC

On Jun 21, 3:02 am, duke <***@cox.net> wrote:
[...]

Post by darwinist
Are you suggesting that there should be no moderated discussion groups
on the internet?

No, I'm not. The point of a moderated ng is to keep the discussion civil, not
censored as is the case in aa.mod.

Isn't it up to the owners, operators or moderators of the group to
decide what the point of moderation is?

Post by darwinist
Should they all be reported to the FCC?

Personally, I thinks blocking free speech should definitely be reported to the
FCC.

Then you would have the FCC's office overloaded all day everyday by
complaints that are of no relevance to them. Every privately governed
forum, indeed every private organisation of any kind is allowed to
decide what speech/text/content is appropriate within their domain.
There is no law or tradition that suggests they shouldn't be allowed
to do this.

Freedom of speech does not - and was never meant to - extend to other
people's property, business, church, book club, or internet forum. You
play in their sandbox, you play by their rules.

Freedom of speech means the government can't pass a law saying "don't
mention the war" or anything like that. That's it, but it's still a
big important "it".

I guess it's ok as long as they include free speech censorship in their charter.

I was on the best - Compuserve. They kept close taps on civility in discussion.
They didn't censor free speech.

Post by darwinist
Or do you just apply a different standard when you don't like group in
question?

Same rules.
The dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

duke

2012-06-21 21:10:24 UTC

Post by darwinist
[...]

Post by darwinist
Are you suggesting that there should be no moderated discussion groups
on the internet?

No, I'm not. The point of a moderated ng is to keep the discussion civil, not
censored as is the case in aa.mod.

Isn't it up to the owners, operators or moderators of the group to
decide what the point of moderation is?

But not in violation of the law. They can't use the open airwaves yet decide
what can and can't be said on the ng. That's censorship and against the law.

Post by darwinist
Should they all be reported to the FCC?

Personally, I thinks blocking free speech should definitely be reported to the
FCC.

Then you would have the FCC's office overloaded all day everyday by
complaints that are of no relevance to them.

Using public airwaves for illegally censoring discussion is definitely a federal
crime.

The dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

sbalneav

2012-06-21 22:23:42 UTC

Post by duke
Using public airwaves for illegally censoring discussion is definitely a federal
crime.

So when Glen Beck or Rush Limbaugh hang up on a caller who they don't like
where the conversation is going, or use their call screeners to stop people
from getting through, they're breaking the law?

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/10/02/1022103/--Why-Rush-Refuses-to-Debate-Liberals
http://consultingbyrpm.com/blog/2010/02/angus-thorn-in-glenn-becks-side-gives-us-the-rest-of-the-story.html

Gonna sic the FCC on them, too?

duke

2012-06-22 18:11:29 UTC

Post by duke
Using public airwaves for illegally censoring discussion is definitely a federal
crime.

So when Glen Beck or Rush Limbaugh hang up on a caller who they don't like
where the conversation is going, or use their call screeners to stop people
from getting through, they're breaking the law?

I don't know. Are they? Does Rush hang up on people **before** they present
their case? Or if instead they present a clearly false case? Does the call
screener stop people who they JUST don't want to go on air, or because they
instead don't have much to say and just want air time? You tell me.

Post by sbalneav
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/10/02/1022103/--Why-Rush-Refuses-to-Debate-Liberals
http://consultingbyrpm.com/blog/2010/02/angus-thorn-in-glenn-becks-side-gives-us-the-rest-of-the-story.html
Gonna sic the FCC on them, too?

The dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

Uergil

2012-06-21 22:45:54 UTC

Post by darwinist
[...]

Post by darwinist
Are you suggesting that there should be no moderated discussion groups
on the internet?

No, I'm not. The point of a moderated ng is to keep the discussion civil, not
censored as is the case in aa.mod.

Isn't it up to the owners, operators or moderators of the group to
decide what the point of moderation is?

But not in violation of the law. They can't use the open airwaves yet decide
what can and can't be said on the ng. That's censorship and against the law.

Post by darwinist
Should they all be reported to the FCC?

Personally, I thinks blocking free speech should definitely be reported to the
FCC

It is not your freedom to speak but their freedom not to listen!

Post by darwinist
Then you would have the FCC's office overloaded all day everyday by
complaints that are of no relevance to them.

Using public airwaves for illegally censoring discussion is definitely a federal
crime.

Not outside the USA. Besides, are you sure that NGs are ever forced to
use airwave transmission?

There is no freedom of speech over privately owned land lines in the
USA, which is how most NGs move their postings.

--
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less
remote from the- truth who believes nothing than
he who believes what is wrong.
Thomas Jefferson

darwinist

2012-06-22 00:01:06 UTC

Post by darwinist
[...]

Post by darwinist
Are you suggesting that there should be no moderated discussion groups
on the internet?

No, I'm not. The point of a moderated ng is to keep the discussion civil, not
censored as is the case in aa.mod.

Isn't it up to the owners, operators or moderators of the group to
decide what the point of moderation is?

But not in violation of the law. They can't use the open airwaves yet decide
what can and can't be said on the ng. That's censorship and against the law.

How are they using "open airwaves" any more than every other website
out there, whose operators get to decide what can and can't be said on
that site? People may send things to the site, or fill out its comment
forms, but the operators choose what gets published.

Post by darwinist
Should they all be reported to the FCC?

Personally, I thinks blocking free speech should definitely be reported to the
FCC.

Then you would have the FCC's office overloaded all day everyday by
complaints that are of no relevance to them.

Using public airwaves for illegally censoring discussion is definitely a federal
crime.

Of course, "illegally censoring discussion" is a crime, because it's
illegal. The question is what's illegal about a.a.mod's censoring?
It's about as illegal as a shop-owner who forbids you from sticking
your reviews of their products to the inside of their shop window.

duke

2012-06-22 18:16:33 UTC

Post by darwinist
[...]

Post by darwinist
Are you suggesting that there should be no moderated discussion groups
on the internet?

No, I'm not. The point of a moderated ng is to keep the discussion civil, not
censored as is the case in aa.mod.

Isn't it up to the owners, operators or moderators of the group to
decide what the point of moderation is?

But not in violation of the law. They can't use the open airwaves yet decide
what can and can't be said on the ng. That's censorship and against the law.

How are they using "open airwaves" any more than every other website
out there

The proper term is "public airwaves". And they are not for private censorship.

Post by darwinist
, whose operators get to decide what can and can't be said on
that site?

That's censorship and against the law to use public airwaves for.

Post by darwinist
People may send things to the site, or fill out its comment
forms, but the operators choose what gets published.

They sent it thru, didn't they. It arrived, didn't it.

Should they all be reported to the FCC?
Personally, I thinks blocking free speech should definitely be reported to the
FCC.

Then you would have the FCC's office overloaded all day everyday by
complaints that are of no relevance to them.

Using public airwaves for illegally censoring discussion is definitely a federal
crime.

Of course, "illegally censoring discussion" is a crime, because it's
illegal.

And using public facilities to censor public discussion is illegal. Book it.

Post by darwinist
The question is what's illegal about a.a.mod's censoring?

Blocking undesired discussion over public airwaves based on the private beliefs
of the operators.

Post by darwinist
It's about as illegal as a shop-owner who forbids you from sticking
your reviews of their products to the inside of their shop window.

The shop is not public property, idiot, but private. Wow, do we really have to
put up with unlearned idiots this way?

The dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

darwinist

2012-06-23 05:11:37 UTC

On Jun 23, 4:16 am, duke <***@cox.net> wrote:
[...]

But not in violation of the law. They can't use the open airwaves yet decide
what can and can't be said on the ng. That's censorship and against the law.

How are they using "open airwaves" any more than every other website
out there

The proper term is "public airwaves". And they are not for private censorship.

Post by darwinist
, whose operators get to decide what can and can't be said on
that site?

That's censorship and against the law to use public airwaves for.

Post by darwinist
People may send things to the site, or fill out its comment
forms, but the operators choose what gets published.

They sent it thru, didn't they. It arrived, didn't it.

Yes and the website operator may decide whether or not to publish it.
Just like with a.a.mod: The moderator receives what is submitted and
decides whether to publish it. You'd have to report basically every
website with a comment board if your standard applied.

[...]

Using public airwaves for illegally censoring discussion is definitely a federal
crime.

Of course, "illegally censoring discussion" is a crime, because it's
illegal.

And using public facilities to censor public discussion is illegal. Book it.

Post by darwinist
The question is what's illegal about a.a.mod's censoring?

Blocking undesired discussion over public airwaves based on the private beliefs
of the operators.

If deciding not to publish something is "blocking" it, then every
newspaper, radio-station, website, and forum that gets to decide what
is published by their own organisation, is "blocking discussion".

Post by darwinist
It's about as illegal as a shop-owner who forbids you from sticking
your reviews of their products to the inside of their shop window.

The shop is not public property, idiot, but private. Wow, do we really have to
put up with unlearned idiots this way?

What makes you think a.a.mod is more public property than a shop,
newspaper or web-server? It's open to the public but operates by its
own private rules. Here's a handy FAQ on moderated newsgroups:

http://pages.swcp.com/~dmckeon/mod-faq.html

duke

2012-06-23 18:04:38 UTC

Post by darwinist
[...]

But not in violation of the law. They can't use the open airwaves yet decide
what can and can't be said on the ng. That's censorship and against the law.

How are they using "open airwaves" any more than every other website
out there

The proper term is "public airwaves". And they are not for private censorship.

Post by darwinist
, whose operators get to decide what can and can't be said on
that site?

That's censorship and against the law to use public airwaves for.

Post by darwinist
People may send things to the site, or fill out its comment
forms, but the operators choose what gets published.

They sent it thru, didn't they. It arrived, didn't it.

Yes and the website operator may decide whether or not to publish it.

Well, you see they won't let mine go thru.

Post by darwinist
Just like with a.a.mod: The moderator receives what is submitted and
decides whether to publish it. You'd have to report basically every
website with a comment board if your standard applied.

If it never gets published, it never went thru. The turkey on the other end is
not the receiver, he's the censor. The post is directed towards the reader.

Post by darwinist
[...]

Using public airwaves for illegally censoring discussion is definitely a federal
crime.

Of course, "illegally censoring discussion" is a crime, because it's
illegal.

And using public facilities to censor public discussion is illegal. Book it.

Post by darwinist
The question is what's illegal about a.a.mod's censoring?

Blocking undesired discussion over public airwaves based on the private beliefs
of the operators.

The information is directed to the attention of the news outlet.

It's really very simple.

The dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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fasgnadh

2012-06-16 07:18:19 UTC

Post by raven1
On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 06:22:42 -0700 (PDT), darwinist

" It's pretty damned funny " raven1

Hilarious, almost as funny as this:

236 for group:alt.atheism author:raven1.
5 for group:alt.atheism.moderated author:raven1.

absolutely hilarious! B^D

Post by fasgnadh
BWEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAHHAAAA

Watching these atheist trolls hysterically trying to shore up
interest in alt.atheism.moderatedByAtheistTrolls, while the actions
of each of them PROVES what pathetic liars they are.

Post by fasgnadh
It is not the BELIEFS and opinions of atheist trolls which defines
atheism but their actions! B^]
And they all spell DEFEAT for the atheist trolls! B^]

then it's not surprising they post more in the bigger one

Naturally, it has lively debate, the spark of truth which comes
from the clash of differing views.. how unlike the censored,
dull greyness ogf every atheist regime, where freedom of thought,
belief and speech was suppressed, just like a.a.m B^p

NO ONE WANTS TO POST THERE..

NOT EVEN **YOU**, you atheist troll SOCKPUPPET: B^D

3 for group:alt.atheism author:darwinist

group:alt.atheism.moderated author:darwinist-did not match any documents

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!

"Oh Please Brer atheist.. pleas don't run away from your NG leaving
me victorious and find that EVERYONE stays here with ME
and you atheist trolls are DYING OF LONLINESS and BOREDOM!!!"

Post by raven1
Fasgnadh's criticism of the moderated alt.atheism group is inane.

Are you trying to blame me for the FACT that 9 out of 10 atheists and
EVERYONE ELSE avoids posting there.. B^D

EVEN **YOU** !!!! B^D

2 for group:alt.atheism author:Zinnic.
group:alt.atheism.moderated author:Zinnic -did not match any documents.

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!

Post by raven1
Is is obvious that participants in that group

do not include Zinnic the sockpuppet who is so thrilled by it that
he AVOIDS IT LIKE THE PLAGUE.. which it actually IS!

BWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAA

Post by raven1
prefer that it be smaller

by driving away 9 out of 10 atheists and avoiding it themselves. B^D

Did anyone else realise that SELF-EXTINCTION is an atheist goal!? B^D

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAA

Post by raven1
restricted to discussions they consider to be more

atheist- controlled, censored, biased, prejudiced, run by people
who help you to understand what you should think and say.. B^]

rather than balanced, evidence based, rational analysis of
ACTUAL POSTING HABITS I HAVE PRESENTED,

Post by raven1
relevant to the pros and cons of religious belief/unbelief

Post by raven1
such as this one, yours

WHICH YOU CAN'T DISPUTE, because it's the TRUTH revealed by
atheists ACTIONS, disproving their LIES..
and everyone can decide for themselves WHAT the facts MEAN! B^]

Post by raven1
and all of fasgnadh's would be 'moderated out'

But I don't post to a.m.m. you cretin ... it has ZERO affect on me..

but my analysis of it's purpose as an atheist propaganda tool CLEARLY
has a huge impact on it!

B^]

Post by raven1
Even in this unmoderated group I have no interest

That's because you are an atheist troll's sockpuppet who only
gets used when the atheist troll wants to
multiply the appearance of 'many atheist voices' B^D

Hilarious..

How DESPERATE are these atheist trolls..

their latest explanation of the decline of atheism:

# From: Zinnic <***@gmail.com>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.philosophy,aus.politics
# Subject: Re: alt.atheism.moderated fails in it's first month! B^D
# Postings for June 2012 to date! - Even the atheist trolls PREFER
# the unmoderated group to their sad, boring moderated one! B^D
# Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 07:06:26 -0700 (PDT)
# Message-ID: <38cb96af-8e80-4d67-
a2ba-***@z2g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>
#
# Is is obvious that participants in that group prefer
# that it be smaller and restricted
#
# Zinnic

B^D

Priceless!

fasgnadh

2012-06-16 14:45:37 UTC

Post by fasgnadh
Well it's official, NOT EVEN THE ATHEIST TROLLS prefer
their moderated NG to the Free one they have lost control
Postings for June 2012
alt.atheism: 11845 posts

On subject and of general interest to atheist

agreed!

How many posters do you estimate

845

Post by fasgnadh
alt.atheism.moderated 1203 posts

Off subject and of no interest to most atheist

I agree, dreadful isn't it!

They spend most of their time talking about religion, or
theists, or sharing their prejudices on either.

Even the atheist trolls who defend the moderated NG actually
POST up to THIRTY SEVEN TIMES MORE responses in the FREE NG than
the one controlled by atheist trolls!

appears to be perhaps a dozen.

Two of that number, the moderators, post more than half
the entire output, it's a personal fiefdom for those two
atheist narcissists! B^D

Post by darwinist
You mean the new group hasn't grown bigger than the old, established
group? And they've already had a whole month? That's incredible.
Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

[...]
Quantity of activity isn't the same as level of preference. There are
factors such as quantity of opportunity to take into account as well.
If people participate in two groups and one is substantially bigger,
then it's not surprising they post more in the bigger one, even if
they like the smaller one better.
Given the low quality of your trolling I can see why someone would
want to start a moderated group to filter it out.

HVAC

2012-06-16 15:07:59 UTC

Post by Zinnic
Fasgnadh's criticism of the moderated alt.atheism group is inane.
Is is obvious that participants in that group prefer that it be
smaller and restricted to discussions they consider to be more
relevant to the pros and cons of religious belief/unbelief. Posts such
as this one, yours to which it is a response, and all of fasgnadh's
would be 'moderated out' as being of little interest.

Of little interest to WHO? YOU? Who decides which topics are open and
which are closed? Can't you see the slippery slope down which you are
headed?

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

qui moderari moderatores?

--
"OK you cunts, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl
http://youtu.be/CjO7kBqTFqo

Zinnic

2012-06-16 17:12:26 UTC

Of little interest to WHO? YOU? Who decides which topics are open and
which are closed? Can't you see the slippery slope down which you are
headed?
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
qui moderari moderatores?
--
"OK you cunts, let's see what you can do now" -Hit http://youtu.be/CjO7kBqTFqo

Absolutely irrelevant! No moderaters are forcing themselves on
fasgnadh.
Watch out for your own footing lest you find yourself at the bottom of
a slope banning organizations that refuse membership to applicants who
will not agree to a abide by it's rules.
Q uis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Would you ban a group because it refuses to admit those who will not
agree to abide by it's rules.

Aunt Six of Nine or Half-dozen of the Other of the Borg

2012-06-16 18:22:53 UTC

Post by Zinnic
Would you ban a group because it refuses to admit those who will not
agree to abide by it's rules.

I refuse to abide the rules of any group that accepts me a member.

--
Aren't you special. Tell me your problems.

HVAC

2012-06-16 18:23:01 UTC

Post by Zinnic
Absolutely irrelevant! No moderaters are forcing themselves on
fasgnadh.
Watch out for your own footing lest you find yourself at the bottom of
a slope banning organizations that refuse membership to applicants who
will not agree to a abide by it's rules.
Q uis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Would you ban a group because it refuses to admit those who will not
agree to abide by it's rules.

I read your post through twice and I honestly have no idea what it
was about. Could someone translate this/dumb it down for me...I am
obviously not bright enough to get it.

--
"OK you cunts, let's see what you can do now" -Hit Girl
http://youtu.be/CjO7kBqTFqo

Zinnic

2012-06-16 18:52:34 UTC

I read your post through twice and I honestly have no idea what it
was about. Could someone translate this/dumb it down for me...I am
obviously not bright enough to get it.
--
"OK you cunts, let's see what you can do now" -Hit

Happy to help. Your 'footing' is on the slippery slope you
referenced. Work on it!

Painius

2012-06-16 23:35:12 UTC

I read your post through twice and I honestly have no idea what it
was about. Could someone translate this/dumb it down for me...I am
obviously not bright enough to get it.

Once you do figure it out, and you will, I think you will find that
Aunt Six of Nine or Half-dozen of the Other of the Borg somehow
managed to beat you to your usual standard response, which is...

I refuse to abide by the rules of any group that would accept me as a
member.

Good answer!

Happy days *and*...
Starry starry nights !

--
Indelibly yours,
Paine @ http://astronomy.painellsworth.net/
"When you think a heart small, it could be biggest of all."

fasgnadh

2012-06-15 15:00:07 UTC

Not even when the duplicitous atheist trolls tried to
surreptitiously SIPHON posts:

When it was revealed that alt.atheism.moderated.by.bigots.and.trolls
was declining in it's daily traffic, Mike Lenin from Pravda
Propaganda set about to "FIX" it: B^D

# From: Mike Lovell <***@b0h0.com>
# Subject: The atheism is faith based destruction question
# Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 22:24:25 -0500
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism.moderated,alt.atheism
# Followup-To: alt.atheism.moderated
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

# From: Mike Lovell <***@b0h0.com>
# Subject: AA: What happens after you die
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism.moderated,alt.atheism
# Followup-To: alt.atheism.moderated
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

atheist parasites SIPHON your posts! B^D

Post by fasgnadh
That's incredible.
Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

You're welcome, people deserve to be warned about the
slimy shitpigs and their fraudulent tactics! B^[

Quantity of activity isn't the same as level of preference.

Sure, atheist liars and trolls always post more where they
don't prefer to!

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAAA

Post by fasgnadh
There are factors
such as quantity of opportunity to take into account as well.

Yeah, the facile opportunists tried post siphoning, and they
still can't get any traffic!

B^D

Post by fasgnadh
If people participate in two groups and one is substantially bigger,

the one they prefer to post in.. the one that ISN't a censored
party political Den of DOGMA, just like every atheist regime in history!

B^D

Post by fasgnadh
226 for group:alt.atheism author:Christopher author:Lee.
190 for group:alt.atheism.moderated author:Christopher author:Lee.
those two are the Chief Censors of the moderated NG and even
they prefer to have REAL DISCUSSIONS elsewhere!!!!

then it's not surprising they post more in the bigger one,

it's just MORE interesting,

Post by fasgnadh
even if

they pretend they

Post by fasgnadh
they like the smaller one better.

Their actions speak louder than their lying mouths do!

B^]

Post by fasgnadh
BWEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAHHAAAA
i told you they would get BORED with their own whining and
would come crawling back to the NG they ABANDONED because
they were now OUTNUMBERED as atheism continues to decline,
As Mike LEnin admitted when they all retreated from the contest
of ideas they were ALWAYS LOSING; B^D

Given the low quality

it's easy to see why atheists are in retreat, even retreating from
the tedious sheltered workshop for low IQ atheist trolls

Post by fasgnadh
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# Subject: Re: alt.atheism.moderated - It's alive again,
# non-fuctional atm
# Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 13:46:16 -0500
#
#
# > I've recently been considering an exit plan for this
# > "alt.atheism" newsgroup because I find the proselytizing
# > religious right-wing-nuts repeatedly attempting to re-define
# > atheism as a theology,
# > among other things, to be tiring and stupid.
#
# I think a lot of people have been lost over the years

I can see why

we all can B^]

Post by fasgnadh
Oh you pathetic HYPOCRITES! B^D
Even findem turdbar prefers the OPEN NG to the MORIBUND one! B^D
180 for group:alt.atheism author:Fidem author:Turbare
78 for group:alt.atheism.moderated author:Fidem author:Turbare
As I keep telling you, the deceitful atheist trolls SAY one thing,
but DO another, they are hypocrites and frauds and nothing they
say can be believed
It is not the BELIEFS and opinions of atheist trolls which defines atheism but their actions! B^]
And they all spell DEFEAT for the atheist trolls! B^]

---------

The foremost atheist Philosopher of our age recently
launched his new book "Religion for Atheists" and
no atheists are interested in talking about it:

http://altatheismfaq.blogspot.com.au/

- Alain de Botton, Lanching his new Book, Religion for Atheists
The Wheeler Centre, Melbourne 19/3/2012

http://www.abc.net.au/tv/bigideas/stories/2012/03/19/3455152.htm

---------

alt.atheism FAQ:

http://altatheismfaq.blogspot.com/

http://groups.google.com.au/group/alt.atheism/msg/7c0978c14fd4ed37?hl=en&dmode=source

"Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism."
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

"We must combat religion"
-Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

“Down with religion and long live atheism;
the dissemination of atheist views is our chief task!”
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

"Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism."
- Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov (Lenin)

http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8290?context=latest

http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:8295?context=latest

http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:6348?context=latest

http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17478?context=latest

"How can you make a revolution without firing squads?"
- Lenin

http://www.atheistnexus.org/photo/2182797:Photo:17475?context=latest

http://www.c96trading.com/Nagant_NKVD_300h.jpg

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01001/Tsar-family_1001874c.jpg

Uergil

2012-06-15 22:12:53 UTC

In article <i6ICr.8066$***@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com>,
fasgnadh <***@yahoo.com> wrote:

Well it's official

Trolls like fasgnadh get cut off when they try to troll to
alt.atheism.moderated.

--
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less
remote from the- truth who believes nothing than
he who believes what is wrong.
Thomas Jefferson

fasgnadh

2012-06-16 08:04:57 UTC

Uergil doesn't post in alt.atheism.moderatedByAtheistBigots either: B^D

Not even when the duplicitous atheist trolls tried to
When it was revealed that alt.atheism.moderated.by.bigots.and.trolls
was declining in it's daily traffic, Mike Lenin from Pravda
Propaganda set about to "FIX" it: B^D
# Subject: The atheism is faith based destruction question
# Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2012 22:24:25 -0500
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism.moderated,alt.atheism
# Followup-To: alt.atheism.moderated
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
# Subject: AA: What happens after you die
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism.moderated,alt.atheism
# Followup-To: alt.atheism.moderated
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
atheist parasites SIPHON your posts! B^D

Post by fasgnadh
That's incredible.
Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

You're welcome, people deserve to be warned about the
slimy shitpigs and their fraudulent tactics! B^[

Quantity of activity isn't the same as level of preference.

Sure, atheist liars and trolls always post more where they
don't prefer to, BUT ARE AFRAID that people will RIDICULE their
dogmatism and irrationality!!
BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAAA

Post by fasgnadh
There are factors
such as quantity of opportunity to take into account as well.

Yeah, the facile opportunists tried post siphoning, and they
still can't get any traffic!
B^D

Post by fasgnadh
If people participate in two groups and one is substantially bigger,

the one they prefer to post in.. the one that ISN't a censored
party political Den of DOGMA, just like every atheist regime in history!
B^D

Post by fasgnadh
then it's not surprising they post more in the bigger one,

it's just MORE interesting!

Atheists now claim they are DELIBERATELY shrinking atheist
representation in USENET! (shame?) B^D

# From: Zinnic <***@gmail.com>
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.philosophy,aus.politics
# Subject: Re: alt.atheism.moderated fails in it's first month! B^D
# Postings for June 2012 to date! - Even the atheist trolls PREFER
# the unmoderated group to their sad, boring moderated one! B^D
# Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 07:06:26 -0700 (PDT)
# Message-ID: <38cb96af-8e80-4d67-
a2ba-***@z2g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>
#
# Is is obvious that participants in that group prefer
# that it be smaller and restricted
#
# Zinnic

Some are embarrassed to be atheists, some are humiliated that they
have no defence against the devastating critique of atheist history:
the fact that EVERY atheist regime has been a totalitarian tyranny,
terrorising torturing and killing over 80,000,000 people

Post by fasgnadh
Their actions speak louder than their lying mouths do!
B^]

Given the low quality

it's easy to see why atheists are in retreat, even retreating from
the tedious sheltered workshop for low IQ atheist trolls

Post by fasgnadh
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism
# Subject: Re: alt.atheism.moderated - It's alive again,
# non-fuctional atm
# Date: Sat, 26 May 2012 13:46:16 -0500
#
# On 2012-05-26, Fidem Turbare, the non-existent atheist goddess
#
# > I've recently been considering an exit plan for this
# > "alt.atheism" newsgroup because I find the proselytizing
# > religious right-wing-nuts repeatedly attempting to re-define
# > atheism as a theology,
# > among other things, to be tiring and stupid.
#
# I think a lot of people have been lost over the years

I can see why

we all can B^]

Post by fasgnadh
Oh you pathetic HYPOCRITES! B^D
Even findem turdbar prefers the OPEN NG to the MORIBUND one! B^D
180 for group:alt.atheism author:Fidem author:Turbare
78 for group:alt.atheism.moderated author:Fidem author:Turbare
As I keep telling you, the deceitful atheist trolls SAY one thing,
but DO another, they are hypocrites and frauds and nothing they
say can be believed
It is not the BELIEFS and opinions of atheist trolls which defines
atheism but their actions! B^]
And they all spell DEFEAT for the atheist trolls! B^]

Trolls like fasgnadh

Everyone likes me, you SpokesOrc for atheist trolls! B^D

But atheist trolls, like 9 out of 10 atheists, don't want to
post in the most boring NG in USENET;

Posts in June, 2012

305 for group:alt.atheism author:Uergil.
group:alt.atheism.moderated author:Uergil - did not match any documents

So either Virgil, like me and everyone else, doesn't WANT
to post in the atheist latrine, or they REJECTED his shit:

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAA

Post by Uergil
Trolls get cut off when they try
to troll to alt.atheism.moderated.

Yeah, MOST of them get cut off from reality by being INSIDE it!

Apparently you got cut off TRYING TO JOIN THEM!

B^D

Virgil

2012-06-17 17:36:18 UTC

Post by fasgnadh
Uergil doesn't post in alt.atheism.moderatedByAtheistBigots either: B^D

Post by fasgnadh
That's incredible.
Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

You're welcome, people deserve to be warned about the
slimy shitpigs and their fraudulent tactics! B^[

Quantity of activity isn't the same as level of preference.

Post by fasgnadh
There are factors
such as quantity of opportunity to take into account as well.

Yeah, the facile opportunists tried post siphoning, and they
still can't get any traffic!
B^D

Post by fasgnadh
If people participate in two groups and one is substantially bigger,

the one they prefer to post in.. the one that ISN't a censored
party political Den of DOGMA, just like every atheist regime in history!
B^D

Post by fasgnadh
then it's not surprising they post more in the bigger one,

it's just MORE interesting!

Atheists now claim they are DELIBERATELY shrinking atheist
representation in USENET! (shame?) B^D
# Newsgroups: alt.atheism,alt.philosophy,aus.politics
# Subject: Re: alt.atheism.moderated fails in it's first month! B^D
# Postings for June 2012 to date! - Even the atheist trolls PREFER
# the unmoderated group to their sad, boring moderated one! B^D
# Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 07:06:26 -0700 (PDT)
# Message-ID: <38cb96af-8e80-4d67-
#
# Is is obvious that participants in that group prefer
# that it be smaller and restricted
#
# Zinnic
Some are embarrassed to be atheists, some are humiliated that they
the fact that EVERY atheist regime has been a totalitarian tyranny,
terrorising torturing and killing over 80,000,000 people

Post by fasgnadh
Their actions speak louder than their lying mouths do!
B^]

Given the low quality

it's easy to see why atheists are in retreat, even retreating from
the tedious sheltered workshop for low IQ atheist trolls

I can see why

we all can B^]

Post by fasgnadh
Oh you pathetic HYPOCRITES! B^D
Even findem turdbar prefers the OPEN NG to the MORIBUND one! B^D
180 for group:alt.atheism author:Fidem author:Turbare
78 for group:alt.atheism.moderated author:Fidem author:Turbare
As I keep telling you, the deceitful atheist trolls SAY one thing,
but DO another, they are hypocrites and frauds and nothing they
say can be believed
It is not the BELIEFS and opinions of atheist trolls which defines
atheism but their actions! B^]
And they all spell DEFEAT for the atheist trolls! B^]

Trolls like fasgnadh

Everyone likes me, you SpokesOrc for atheist trolls! B^D
But atheist trolls, like 9 out of 10 atheists, don't want to
post in the most boring NG in USENET;
Posts in June, 2012
305 for group:alt.atheism author:Uergil.
group:alt.atheism.moderated author:Uergil - did not match any documents
So either Virgil, like me and everyone else, doesn't WANT

Since there are no trolls posting in alt.atheism.moderated, there is
nothing there for me to post about.

I do read it.
--

duke

2012-06-15 16:40:51 UTC

You mean the new group hasn't grown bigger than the old, established
group? And they've already had a whole month? That's incredible.
Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

Yet they can't shake the image they've made for themselves - one of free speech
censorship of those that say things they don't like to hear.

The dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

Mike Lovell

2012-06-15 16:57:03 UTC

You mean the new group hasn't grown bigger than the old, established
group? And they've already had a whole month? That's incredible.
Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

Yet they can't shake the image they've made for themselves - one of free speech
censorship of those that say things they don't like to hear.

Still waiting on information on your Church so I can come along and
practice my freedom of speech. I want to shout what I think of your
religion all through the service, whilst playing the bongos.

Why so silent on that? ;-) Hmmmm, I wonder!

--
Jews, Christians & Muslims
The content of your posts will show how much you
really believe God is looking over your shoulder

Catpain 'Merca

2012-06-15 19:14:54 UTC

Post by raven1
On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 06:22:42 -0700 (PDT), darwinist

You mean the new group hasn't grown bigger than the old, established
group? And they've already had a whole month? That's incredible.
Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

Yet they can't shake the image they've made for themselves - one of free
speech censorship of those that say things they don't like to hear.
The dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****

Take a copy of any of videos from thethinkingatheist on youtube and play
it loudly as you walk up and down the aisles of your local church while
your pastor is trying to give his sermon. That's equivalent to the level
of free speech you're whining about. You're complaining because a bunch
of fuckwits aren't aloud free reign in a group where adults want to
converse.

Catpain 'Merca

--
.

Seth lePod

2012-06-16 03:25:49 UTC

Post by raven1
On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 06:22:42 -0700 (PDT), darwinist

You mean the new group hasn't grown bigger than the old, established
group? And they've already had a whole month? That's incredible.
Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

Yet they can't shake the image they've made for themselves - one of free
speech censorship of those that say things they don't like to hear.

Now now now -- let us not advise Duke to be impolite;
that would be unseemly.

Rather, let us encourage him to rise from his pew and
read alound from the oratory of Robert Ingersoll.
Ingersoll's speeches on agnosticism and humanism were
wildly popular in the late 19th centuray, even though
probably few in his audience agreed with him. He's was
simply a terrific writer and speaker.

And if that pastor were to interrupt Duke's recital of
some classic lecture from this prominent American
orator, then let Duke begin shrieking "FREE SPEECH!
FREE SPEECH!!" at the hooligan.

Because if there's anything Duke is about, it's free
speech.

Agreed?

Seth

Post by Catpain 'Merca
Catpain 'Merca
--
.

Uergil

2012-06-16 05:09:52 UTC

In article

Post by raven1
On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 06:22:42 -0700 (PDT), darwinist

You mean the new group hasn't grown bigger than the old, established
group? And they've already had a whole month? That's incredible.
Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

Yet they can't shake the image they've made for themselves - one of free
speech censorship of those that say things they don't like to hear.

Now now now -- let us not advise Duke to be impolite;
that would be unseemly.
Rather, let us encourage him to rise from his pew and
read alound from the oratory of Robert Ingersoll.
Ingersoll's speeches on agnosticism and humanism were
wildly popular in the late 19th centuray, even though
probably few in his audience agreed with him. He's was
simply a terrific writer and speaker.
And if that pastor were to interrupt Duke's recital of
some classic lecture from this prominent American
orator, then let Duke begin shrieking "FREE SPEECH!
FREE SPEECH!!" at the hooligan.
Because if there's anything Duke is about, it's free
speech.
Agreed?
Seth

I find it remakable how strongly anti-atheist trolls favor free speech
for them selves, but not at all for anyone who is not in total agreement
with them.

--
"Ignorance is preferable to error, and he is less
remote from the- truth who believes nothing than
he who believes what is wrong.
Thomas Jefferson

HVAC

2012-06-16 15:19:04 UTC

Post by Uergil
I find it remakable how strongly anti-atheist trolls favor free speech
for them selves, but not at all for anyone who is not in total agreement
with them.

And you along with the entire 'moderate' clique, are doing EXACTLY the
same thing. "Fore you accuse me, take a look at yourself" -John Fogarty

qui moderari moderatores?

--
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duke

2012-06-16 18:14:47 UTC

Post by raven1
On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 06:22:42 -0700 (PDT), darwinist

You mean the new group hasn't grown bigger than the old, established
group? And they've already had a whole month? That's incredible.
Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

Yet they can't shake the image they've made for themselves - one of free
speech censorship of those that say things they don't like to hear.

Now now now -- let us not advise Duke to be impolite;
that would be unseemly.

And so very much un-duke-like.

Post by Seth lePod
Rather, let us encourage him to rise from his pew and
read alound from the oratory of Robert Ingersoll.

Nah, gumball, atheists don't know what they're talking about.

Post by Seth lePod
Ingersoll's speeches on agnosticism and humanism were
wildly popular in the late 19th centuray, even though
probably few in his audience agreed with him. He's was
simply a terrific writer and speaker.
And if that pastor were to interrupt Duke's recital of
some classic lecture from this prominent American
orator, then let Duke begin shrieking "FREE SPEECH!
FREE SPEECH!!" at the hooligan.
Because if there's anything Duke is about, it's free
speech.
Agreed?

Yes, of course, but it's not civil, or in accordance with the constitution, to
disrupt freedom of speech as they do in aa.mod.

Post by Seth lePod
Seth

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Mike Lovell

2012-06-16 19:06:40 UTC

Post by Seth lePod
Because if there's anything Duke is about, it's free
speech.
Agreed?

Yes, of course, but it's not civil, or in accordance with the constitution, to
disrupt freedom of speech as they do in aa.mod.

And your Church.

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duke

2012-06-17 19:23:24 UTC

Post by raven1
On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 06:22:42 -0700 (PDT), darwinist

You mean the new group hasn't grown bigger than the old, established
group? And they've already had a whole month? That's incredible.
Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

Yet they can't shake the image they've made for themselves - one of free
speech censorship of those that say things they don't like to hear.

Now now now -- let us not advise Duke to be impolite;
that would be unseemly.

And so very much un-duke-like.

Post by Seth lePod
Rather, let us encourage him to rise from his pew and
read alound from the oratory of Robert Ingersoll.

Nah, gumball, atheists don't know what they're talking about.

Yes, of course, but it's not civil, or in accordance with the constitution, to
disrupt freedom of speech as they do in aa.mod.

No, no one dist rubs the Mass with rants and insults just like no one disturbs
aa.mod with untruths.
.

duke, American - American

*****
Warning: alt.atheism.mod is not a moderated newsgroup. It
instead allows selected censorship blocking of non-perferred
content and personal insult based on censor preference.
aa.mod is a voliation of free speech and should be
reported to the Federal Communication Commission.
*****

Seth lePod

2012-06-17 21:09:30 UTC

Post by raven1
On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 06:22:42 -0700 (PDT), darwinist

You mean the new group hasn't grown bigger than the old, established
group? And they've already had a whole month? That's incredible.
Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

Yet they can't shake the image they've made for themselves - one of free
speech censorship of those that say things they don't like to hear.

Now now now --let us not advise Duke to be impolite;
that would be unseemly.

And so very much un-duke-like.

Rather, let us encourage him to rise from his pew and
read alound from the oratory of Robert Ingersoll.

Nah, gumball, atheists don't know what they're talking about.

Ingersoll's speeches on agnosticism and humanism were
wildly popular in the late 19th centuray, even though
probably few in his audience agreed with him. He's was
simply a terrific writer and speaker.
And if that pastor were to interrupt Duke's recital of
some classic lecture from this prominent American
orator, then let Duke begin shrieking "FREE SPEECH!
FREE SPEECH!!" at the hooligan.
Because if there's anything Duke is about, it's free
speech.
Agreed?

Yes, of course, but it's not civil, or in accordance with the constitution, to
disrupt freedom of speech as they do in aa.mod.

No, no one dist rubs the Mass with rants and insults just like no one disturbs
aa.mod with untruths.

But do you do agree that "Freedom of Speech" would ensure
that if someone would want to, um, "dist rub" that Mass,
that someone would be free to do so.

You know, "in accordance with the constitution" and all that.

Right?

Be warned that I cannot, then I must resort to reporting
your church to the FCC.

(silly, silly, silly Duke...)

Post by duke
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duke

2012-06-18 21:51:10 UTC

Post by raven1
On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 06:22:42 -0700 (PDT), darwinist

You mean the new group hasn't grown bigger than the old, established
group? And they've already had a whole month? That's incredible.
Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

Yet they can't shake the image they've made for themselves - one of free
speech censorship of those that say things they don't like to hear.

Now now now --let us not advise Duke to be impolite;
that would be unseemly.

And so very much un-duke-like.

Rather, let us encourage him to rise from his pew and
read alound from the oratory of Robert Ingersoll.

Nah, gumball, atheists don't know what they're talking about.

Yes, of course, but it's not civil, or in accordance with the constitution, to
disrupt freedom of speech as they do in aa.mod.

No, no one dist rubs the Mass with rants and insults just like no one disturbs
aa.mod with untruths.

But do you do agree that "Freedom of Speech" would ensure
that if someone would want to, um, "dist rub" that Mass,
that someone would be free to do so.

But it's a disturbance, and that's impolite. In aa.mod, what I said was neither
a disturbance nor an untruth. You just don't like challenges you can't handle
so you turn to blocking posts.

Post by Seth lePod
You know, "in accordance with the constitution" and all that.

Of course.

Post by Seth lePod
Right?

Right.

Post by Seth lePod
Be warned that I cannot, then I must resort to reporting
your church to the FCC.
(silly, silly, silly Duke...)

I never said that. See how much of a bunch of a screwballs you are.

duke, American - American

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instead allows selected censorship blocking of non-perferred
content and personal insult based on censor preference.
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reported to the Federal Communication Commission.
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Seth lePod

2012-06-19 01:48:42 UTC

Post by raven1
On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 06:22:42 -0700 (PDT), darwinist

Well it's official, NOTEVEN THE ATHEIST TROLLS prefer
their moderated NG to the Free one they have lost control
Postings for June 2012
alt.atheism: 11845 posts
alt.atheism.moderated 1203 posts

You mean the new group hasn't grown bigger than the old, established
group? And they've already had a whole month? That's incredible.
Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

Yet they can't shake the image they've made for themselves - one of free
speech censorship of those that say things they don't like to hear.

Now now now --let us not advise Duke to be impolite;
that would be unseemly.

And so very much un-duke-like.

Rather, let us encourage him to rise from his pew and
read alound from the oratory of Robert Ingersoll.

Nah, gumball, atheists don't know what they're talking about.

Yes, of course, but it's not civil, or in accordance with the constitution, to
disrupt freedom of speech as they do in aa.mod.

No, no one dist rubs the Mass with rants and insults just like no one disturbs
aa.mod with untruths.

But do you do agree that "Freedom of Speech" would ensure
that if someone would want to, um, "dist rub" that Mass,
that someone would be free to do so.

Post by duke
No, no one dist rubs the Mass with rants and insults just like no one disturbs
aa.mod with untruths.

But do you do agree that "Freedom of Speech" would ensure
that if someone would want to, um, "dist rub" that Mass,
that someone would be free to do so.

But it's a disturbance, and that's impolite. In aa.mod, what I said was neither
a disturbance nor an untruth. You just don't like challenges you can't handle
so you turn to blocking posts.

Not the question. Try again:

But do you do agree that "Freedom of Speech" would
ensure that if someone would want to, um, "dist
rub" that Mass, that someone would be free to do
so.

Right?

Seth

Post by Seth lePod
You know, "in accordance with the constitution" and all that.

Of course.>Right?
Right.

Post by Seth lePod
Be warned that I cannot, then I must resort to reporting
your church to the FCC.
(silly, silly, silly Duke...)

I never said that. See how much of a bunch of a screwballs you are.
duke, American - American
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Warning: alt.atheism.mod is not a moderated newsgroup. It
instead allows selected censorship blocking of non-perferred
content and personal insult based on censor preference.
aa.mod is a voliation of free speech and should be
reported to the Federal Communication Commission.
*****

duke

2012-06-20 17:04:46 UTC

Post by raven1
On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 06:22:42 -0700 (PDT), darwinist