spoiler Weds 3.10.18

[Vicky Ayech]

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Oh dear. I suppose the race in the St Stephen Churchyard stakes just
got a probably winner. I hope not. That was the best scene I've heard
Christine in. I liked how she was able to cheer Fallon up, having
similar experiences. Someone mentioned a broken hip but it didn't say
that so I wonder if that's a spoiler from somewhere. Or is it just
that that is what often breaks.

Meanwhile back with the Lynda is all powerful storylines, the panto
has started early with the BL event. I wish Lilian has just said no.

[Serena Blanchflower]

Post by Vicky Ayech
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Oh dear. I suppose the race in the St Stephen Churchyard stakes just
got a probably winner. I hope not. That was the best scene I've heard
Christine in. I liked how she was able to cheer Fallon up, having
similar experiences. Someone mentioned a broken hip but it didn't say
that so I wonder if that's a spoiler from somewhere. Or is it just
that that is what often breaks.

No, I'm pretty sure that she's going to live but too disabled to be able
to continue living independently with Peggy at The Dower House. This is
when everyone will discover that she's lost all her savings and that she
won't be able to afford a room at The Laurels but may have to go to live
in a home which the council will pay for.

It will also give Peggy a dilemma, as she had previously said that she
would pay, if Christine had to go into The Laurels but now, of course,
she wants to use her money to keep Brian and Jenny at Home Farm.

Post by Vicky Ayech
Meanwhile back with the Lynda is all powerful storylines, the panto
has started early with the BL event. I wish Lilian has just said no.

So do I.

[Chris McMillan]

Post by Serena Blanchflower

Post by Vicky Ayech
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Oh dear. I suppose the race in the St Stephen Churchyard stakes just
got a probably winner. I hope not. That was the best scene I've heard
Christine in. I liked how she was able to cheer Fallon up, having
similar experiences. Someone mentioned a broken hip but it didn't say
that so I wonder if that's a spoiler from somewhere. Or is it just
that that is what often breaks.

No, I'm pretty sure that she's going to live but too disabled to be able
to continue living independently with Peggy at The Dower House. This is
when everyone will discover that she's lost all her savings and that she
won't be able to afford a room at The Laurels but may have to go to live
in a home which the council will pay for.
It will also give Peggy a dilemma, as she had previously said that she
would pay, if Christine had to go into The Laurels but now, of course,
she wants to use her money to keep Brian and Jenny at Home Farm.

Post by Vicky Ayech
Meanwhile back with the Lynda is all powerful storylines, the panto
has started early with the BL event. I wish Lilian has just said no.

So do I.

Hopefully the Laurels takes those on low incomes too.

(Maybe Mrs Cardboard is too frail to continue?)

Sincerely Chris

[Serena Blanchflower]

Post by Chris McMillan

Post by Serena Blanchflower

Post by Vicky Ayech
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Oh dear. I suppose the race in the St Stephen Churchyard stakes just
got a probably winner. I hope not. That was the best scene I've heard
Christine in. I liked how she was able to cheer Fallon up, having
similar experiences. Someone mentioned a broken hip but it didn't say
that so I wonder if that's a spoiler from somewhere. Or is it just
that that is what often breaks.

No, I'm pretty sure that she's going to live but too disabled to be able
to continue living independently with Peggy at The Dower House. This is
when everyone will discover that she's lost all her savings and that she
won't be able to afford a room at The Laurels but may have to go to live
in a home which the council will pay for.
It will also give Peggy a dilemma, as she had previously said that she
would pay, if Christine had to go into The Laurels but now, of course,
she wants to use her money to keep Brian and Jenny at Home Farm.

Post by Vicky Ayech
Meanwhile back with the Lynda is all powerful storylines, the panto
has started early with the BL event. I wish Lilian has just said no.

So do I.

Hopefully the Laurels takes those on low incomes too.

I'm pretty sure that, when Peggy and Christine were discussing it, a
while back, they didn't seem to think that that was an option.
Presumably their charges are significantly more than the amount the
council will pay.

[Mike]

Post by Serena Blanchflower

Post by Chris McMillan

Post by Serena Blanchflower

Post by Vicky Ayech
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Oh dear. I suppose the race in the St Stephen Churchyard stakes just
got a probably winner. I hope not. That was the best scene I've heard
Christine in. I liked how she was able to cheer Fallon up, having
similar experiences. Someone mentioned a broken hip but it didn't say
that so I wonder if that's a spoiler from somewhere. Or is it just
that that is what often breaks.

No, I'm pretty sure that she's going to live but too disabled to be able
to continue living independently with Peggy at The Dower House. This is
when everyone will discover that she's lost all her savings and that she
won't be able to afford a room at The Laurels but may have to go to live
in a home which the council will pay for.
It will also give Peggy a dilemma, as she had previously said that she
would pay, if Christine had to go into The Laurels but now, of course,
she wants to use her money to keep Brian and Jenny at Home Farm.

Post by Vicky Ayech
Meanwhile back with the Lynda is all powerful storylines, the panto
has started early with the BL event. I wish Lilian has just said no.

So do I.

Hopefully the Laurels takes those on low incomes too.

I'm pretty sure that, when Peggy and Christine were discussing it, a
while back, they didn't seem to think that that was an option.
Presumably their charges are significantly more than the amount the
council will pay.

She could easily find that the costs exceed £4K per month.:-(

[Mike]

Post by Mike

Post by Serena Blanchflower

Post by Chris McMillan

Post by Serena Blanchflower

Post by Vicky Ayech
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Oh dear. I suppose the race in the St Stephen Churchyard stakes just
got a probably winner. I hope not. That was the best scene I've heard
Christine in. I liked how she was able to cheer Fallon up, having
similar experiences. Someone mentioned a broken hip but it didn't say
that so I wonder if that's a spoiler from somewhere. Or is it just
that that is what often breaks.

No, I'm pretty sure that she's going to live but too disabled to be able
to continue living independently with Peggy at The Dower House. This is
when everyone will discover that she's lost all her savings and that she
won't be able to afford a room at The Laurels but may have to go to live
in a home which the council will pay for.
It will also give Peggy a dilemma, as she had previously said that she
would pay, if Christine had to go into The Laurels but now, of course,
she wants to use her money to keep Brian and Jenny at Home Farm.

Post by Vicky Ayech
Meanwhile back with the Lynda is all powerful storylines, the panto
has started early with the BL event. I wish Lilian has just said no.

So do I.

Hopefully the Laurels takes those on low incomes too.

I'm pretty sure that, when Peggy and Christine were discussing it, a
while back, they didn't seem to think that that was an option.
Presumably their charges are significantly more than the amount the
council will pay.

She could easily find that the costs exceed £4K per month.:-(

So she would need a very large cardboard boxful of cash* to cover a few
years stay.... perhaps Auntie Beeb will save on the budget on kill her off
sooner rather than later.


*have to be cash from under the bed as all her ‘investments’ evaporated.

[Mike]

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Post by Mike

Post by Serena Blanchflower

Post by Chris McMillan

Post by Serena Blanchflower

Post by Vicky Ayech
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Oh dear. I suppose the race in the St Stephen Churchyard stakes just
got a probably winner. I hope not. That was the best scene I've heard
Christine in. I liked how she was able to cheer Fallon up, having
similar experiences. Someone mentioned a broken hip but it didn't say
that so I wonder if that's a spoiler from somewhere. Or is it just
that that is what often breaks.

No, I'm pretty sure that she's going to live but too disabled to be able
to continue living independently with Peggy at The Dower House. This is
when everyone will discover that she's lost all her savings and that she
won't be able to afford a room at The Laurels but may have to go to live
in a home which the council will pay for.
It will also give Peggy a dilemma, as she had previously said that she
would pay, if Christine had to go into The Laurels but now, of course,
she wants to use her money to keep Brian and Jenny at Home Farm.

Post by Vicky Ayech
Meanwhile back with the Lynda is all powerful storylines, the panto
has started early with the BL event. I wish Lilian has just said no.

So do I.

Hopefully the Laurels takes those on low incomes too.

I'm pretty sure that, when Peggy and Christine were discussing it, a
while back, they didn't seem to think that that was an option.
Presumably their charges are significantly more than the amount the
council will pay.

She could easily find that the costs exceed £4K per month.:-(

So she would need a very large cardboard boxful of cash* to cover a few
years stay.... perhaps Auntie Beeb will save on the budget on kill her off
sooner rather than later.
*have to be cash from under the bed as all her ‘investments’ evaporated.

Perhaps she’ll get sepsis - now that would be an original way to write
someone out! ;-)

[John Ashby]

Post by Mike

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Post by Mike

Post by Serena Blanchflower

Post by Chris McMillan

Post by Serena Blanchflower

Post by Vicky Ayech
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Oh dear. I suppose the race in the St Stephen Churchyard stakes just
got a probably winner. I hope not. That was the best scene I've heard
Christine in. I liked how she was able to cheer Fallon up, having
similar experiences. Someone mentioned a broken hip but it didn't say
that so I wonder if that's a spoiler from somewhere. Or is it just
that that is what often breaks.

No, I'm pretty sure that she's going to live but too disabled to be able
to continue living independently with Peggy at The Dower House. This is
when everyone will discover that she's lost all her savings and that she
won't be able to afford a room at The Laurels but may have to go to live
in a home which the council will pay for.
It will also give Peggy a dilemma, as she had previously said that she
would pay, if Christine had to go into The Laurels but now, of course,
she wants to use her money to keep Brian and Jenny at Home Farm.

Post by Vicky Ayech
Meanwhile back with the Lynda is all powerful storylines, the panto
has started early with the BL event. I wish Lilian has just said no.

So do I.

Hopefully the Laurels takes those on low incomes too.

I'm pretty sure that, when Peggy and Christine were discussing it, a
while back, they didn't seem to think that that was an option.
Presumably their charges are significantly more than the amount the
council will pay.

She could easily find that the costs exceed £4K per month.:-(

So she would need a very large cardboard boxful of cash* to cover a few
years stay.... perhaps Auntie Beeb will save on the budget on kill her off
sooner rather than later.
*have to be cash from under the bed as all her ‘investments’ evaporated.

Perhaps she’ll get sepsis - now that would be an original way to write
someone out! ;-)

Fractured neck of femur followed by pneumonia brought on by immobility
and bed rest. It's a classic.

john

[Vicky Ayech]

Post by John Ashby

Post by Mike

Post by Mike

Post by Serena Blanchflower

Post by Chris McMillan

Post by Serena Blanchflower

Post by Vicky Ayech
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Oh dear. I suppose the race in the St Stephen Churchyard stakes just
got a probably winner. I hope not. That was the best scene I've heard
Christine in. I liked how she was able to cheer Fallon up, having
similar experiences. Someone mentioned a broken hip but it didn't say
that so I wonder if that's a spoiler from somewhere. Or is it just
that that is what often breaks.

No, I'm pretty sure that she's going to live but too disabled to be able
to continue living independently with Peggy at The Dower House. This is
when everyone will discover that she's lost all her savings and that she
won't be able to afford a room at The Laurels but may have to go to live
in a home which the council will pay for.
It will also give Peggy a dilemma, as she had previously said that she
would pay, if Christine had to go into The Laurels but now, of course,
she wants to use her money to keep Brian and Jenny at Home Farm.

Post by Vicky Ayech
Meanwhile back with the Lynda is all powerful storylines, the panto
has started early with the BL event. I wish Lilian has just said no.

So do I.

Hopefully the Laurels takes those on low incomes too.

I'm pretty sure that, when Peggy and Christine were discussing it, a
while back, they didn't seem to think that that was an option.
Presumably their charges are significantly more than the amount the
council will pay.

She could easily find that the costs exceed £4K per month.:-(

So she would need a very large cardboard boxful of cash* to cover a few
years stay.... perhaps Auntie Beeb will save on the budget on kill her off
sooner rather than later.
*have to be cash from under the bed as all her ‘investments’ evaporated.

Perhaps she’ll get sepsis - now that would be an original way to write
someone out! ;-)

Fractured neck of femur followed by pneumonia brought on by immobility
and bed rest. It's a classic.
john

Sadly, yes.

But the Fallon and Kenton scene was well done. Unlike Tom and Hannah.
I really want her to leave Ambridge. I thought I didn't like Anisha
but prefer her to Hannah.

[the Omrud]

Post by Mike

Post by Serena Blanchflower

Post by Chris McMillan

Post by Serena Blanchflower

Post by Vicky Ayech
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Oh dear. I suppose the race in the St Stephen Churchyard stakes just
got a probably winner. I hope not. That was the best scene I've heard
Christine in. I liked how she was able to cheer Fallon up, having
similar experiences. Someone mentioned a broken hip but it didn't say
that so I wonder if that's a spoiler from somewhere. Or is it just
that that is what often breaks.

No, I'm pretty sure that she's going to live but too disabled to be able
to continue living independently with Peggy at The Dower House. This is
when everyone will discover that she's lost all her savings and that she
won't be able to afford a room at The Laurels but may have to go to live
in a home which the council will pay for.
It will also give Peggy a dilemma, as she had previously said that she
would pay, if Christine had to go into The Laurels but now, of course,
she wants to use her money to keep Brian and Jenny at Home Farm.

Post by Vicky Ayech
Meanwhile back with the Lynda is all powerful storylines, the panto
has started early with the BL event. I wish Lilian has just said no.

So do I.

Hopefully the Laurels takes those on low incomes too.

I'm pretty sure that, when Peggy and Christine were discussing it, a
while back, they didn't seem to think that that was an option.
Presumably their charges are significantly more than the amount the
council will pay.

She could easily find that the costs exceed £4K per month.:-(

Move to Shropshire. First rate home for £700 per week. I know, it's a
lot, but it's a lot less than other regions.

[krw]

Post by Mike

Post by Serena Blanchflower

Post by Chris McMillan

Post by Serena Blanchflower

Post by Vicky Ayech
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Oh dear. I suppose the race in the St Stephen Churchyard stakes just
got a probably winner. I hope not. That was the best scene I've heard
Christine in. I liked how she was able to cheer Fallon up, having
similar experiences. Someone mentioned a broken hip but it didn't say
that so I wonder if that's a spoiler from somewhere. Or is it just
that that is what often breaks.

No, I'm pretty sure that she's going to live but too disabled to be able
to continue living independently with Peggy at The Dower House.
This is
when everyone will discover that she's lost all her savings and that she
won't be able to afford a room at The Laurels but may have to go to live
in a home which the council will pay for.
It will also give Peggy a dilemma, as she had previously said that she
would pay, if Christine had to go into The Laurels but now, of course,
she wants to use her money to keep Brian and Jenny at Home Farm.

Post by Vicky Ayech
Meanwhile back with the Lynda is all powerful storylines, the panto
has started early with the BL event. I wish Lilian has just said no.

So do I.

Hopefully the Laurels takes those on low incomes too.

I'm pretty sure that, when Peggy and Christine were discussing it, a
while back, they didn't seem to think that that was an option.
Presumably their charges are significantly more than the amount the
council will pay.

She could easily find that the costs exceed £4K per month.:-(

Move to Shropshire.  First rate home for £700 per week. I know, it's a
lot, but it's a lot less than other regions.

Add 40% if the patient has dementia.

[Mike]

Post by krw

Post by Mike

Post by Serena Blanchflower

Post by Chris McMillan

Post by Serena Blanchflower

Post by Vicky Ayech
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Oh dear. I suppose the race in the St Stephen Churchyard stakes just
got a probably winner. I hope not. That was the best scene I've heard
Christine in. I liked how she was able to cheer Fallon up, having
similar experiences. Someone mentioned a broken hip but it didn't say
that so I wonder if that's a spoiler from somewhere. Or is it just
that that is what often breaks.

No, I'm pretty sure that she's going to live but too disabled to be able
to continue living independently with Peggy at The Dower House.
This is
when everyone will discover that she's lost all her savings and that she
won't be able to afford a room at The Laurels but may have to go to live
in a home which the council will pay for.
It will also give Peggy a dilemma, as she had previously said that she
would pay, if Christine had to go into The Laurels but now, of course,
she wants to use her money to keep Brian and Jenny at Home Farm.

Post by Vicky Ayech
Meanwhile back with the Lynda is all powerful storylines, the panto
has started early with the BL event. I wish Lilian has just said no.

So do I.

Hopefully the Laurels takes those on low incomes too.

I'm pretty sure that, when Peggy and Christine were discussing it, a
while back, they didn't seem to think that that was an option.
Presumably their charges are significantly more than the amount the
council will pay.

She could easily find that the costs exceed £4K per month.:-(

Move to Shropshire.  First rate home for £700 per week. I know, it's a
lot, but it's a lot less than other regions.

Add 40% if the patient has dementia.

Yes, MIL has dementia - 1.2 k per week.

[Vicky Ayech]

Post by krw

Post by Mike

Post by Serena Blanchflower

Post by Chris McMillan

Post by Serena Blanchflower

Post by Vicky Ayech
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Oh dear. I suppose the race in the St Stephen Churchyard stakes just
got a probably winner. I hope not. That was the best scene I've heard
Christine in. I liked how she was able to cheer Fallon up, having
similar experiences. Someone mentioned a broken hip but it didn't say
that so I wonder if that's a spoiler from somewhere. Or is it just
that that is what often breaks.

No, I'm pretty sure that she's going to live but too disabled to be able
to continue living independently with Peggy at The Dower House.
This is
when everyone will discover that she's lost all her savings and that she
won't be able to afford a room at The Laurels but may have to go to live
in a home which the council will pay for.
It will also give Peggy a dilemma, as she had previously said that she
would pay, if Christine had to go into The Laurels but now, of course,
she wants to use her money to keep Brian and Jenny at Home Farm.

Post by Vicky Ayech
Meanwhile back with the Lynda is all powerful storylines, the panto
has started early with the BL event. I wish Lilian has just said no.

So do I.

Hopefully the Laurels takes those on low incomes too.

I'm pretty sure that, when Peggy and Christine were discussing it, a
while back, they didn't seem to think that that was an option.
Presumably their charges are significantly more than the amount the
council will pay.

She could easily find that the costs exceed £4K per month.:-(

Move to Shropshire.  First rate home for £700 per week. I know, it's a
lot, but it's a lot less than other regions.

Add 40% if the patient has dementia.

From experience of the 3 homes my mother was in and the courses in
English for second language speakers that I organised in homes many
care workers came from EU countries, Eastern ones. They don't earn
more than 50k and are possibly not in the skilled worker category
until they've ben working in the home for a while. And even then not
financially in that category. If British workers have to be employed
instead I think they will probably have to be paid more, which might
mean the charges go up.

[Fenny]

On Thu, 04 Oct 2018 18:02:31 +0100, Vicky Ayech

Post by Vicky Ayech
From experience of the 3 homes my mother was in and the courses in
English for second language speakers that I organised in homes many
care workers came from EU countries, Eastern ones. They don't earn
more than 50k and are possibly not in the skilled worker category
until they've ben working in the home for a while. And even then not
financially in that category. If British workers have to be employed
instead I think they will probably have to be paid more, which might
mean the charges go up.

Care workers are traditionally low paid, with few or no qualifications
[1]. British workers do it when they can be bothered, but as the
Eastern European workers are generally better educated, speak better
English and are much nicer to the patients, I know which I'd prefer!

[1] When I first worked for the college, I was doing admin for a
project that provided free Level 2 qualifications for care home staff.
As long as they were free, the staff got the training. When the
funding ran out, the managers wouldn't pay. Then there was a push for
all staff to have a minimum L2 Care qualification and funding was
provided. These days, there's very little cash for anyone over 18 to
do any kind of qualifications, so the staff are back to being anyone
they can drag in off the street.

[the Omrud]

Post by krw

Post by Mike

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Post by Chris McMillan

Post by Serena Blanchflower

Post by Vicky Ayech
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Oh dear. I suppose the race in the St Stephen Churchyard stakes just
got a probably winner. I hope not. That was the best scene I've heard
Christine in. I liked how she was able to cheer Fallon up, having
similar experiences. Someone mentioned a broken hip but it didn't say
that so I wonder if that's a spoiler from somewhere. Or is it just
that that is what often breaks.

No, I'm pretty sure that she's going to live but too disabled to be able
to continue living independently with Peggy at The Dower House.
This is
when everyone will discover that she's lost all her savings and that she
won't be able to afford a room at The Laurels but may have to go to live
in a home which the council will pay for.
It will also give Peggy a dilemma, as she had previously said that she
would pay, if Christine had to go into The Laurels but now, of course,
she wants to use her money to keep Brian and Jenny at Home Farm.

Post by Vicky Ayech
Meanwhile back with the Lynda is all powerful storylines, the panto
has started early with the BL event. I wish Lilian has just said no.

So do I.

Hopefully the Laurels takes those on low incomes too.

I'm pretty sure that, when Peggy and Christine were discussing it, a
while back, they didn't seem to think that that was an option.
Presumably their charges are significantly more than the amount the
council will pay.

She could easily find that the costs exceed £4K per month.:-(

Move to Shropshire.  First rate home for £700 per week. I know, it's a
lot, but it's a lot less than other regions.

Add 40% if the patient has dementia.

Nope. Mum has severe dementia. No difference in cost. There is an
extra cost for Nursing Care when the time comes, but that is paid by the
NHS.

[Sally Thompson]

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Post by Mike

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Post by Serena Blanchflower

Post by Vicky Ayech
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Oh dear. I suppose the race in the St Stephen Churchyard stakes just
got a probably winner. I hope not. That was the best scene I've heard
Christine in. I liked how she was able to cheer Fallon up, having
similar experiences. Someone mentioned a broken hip but it didn't say
that so I wonder if that's a spoiler from somewhere. Or is it just
that that is what often breaks.

No, I'm pretty sure that she's going to live but too disabled to be able
to continue living independently with Peggy at The Dower House.
This is
when everyone will discover that she's lost all her savings and that she
won't be able to afford a room at The Laurels but may have to go to live
in a home which the council will pay for.
It will also give Peggy a dilemma, as she had previously said that she
would pay, if Christine had to go into The Laurels but now, of course,
she wants to use her money to keep Brian and Jenny at Home Farm.

Post by Vicky Ayech
Meanwhile back with the Lynda is all powerful storylines, the panto
has started early with the BL event. I wish Lilian has just said no.

So do I.

Hopefully the Laurels takes those on low incomes too.

I'm pretty sure that, when Peggy and Christine were discussing it, a
while back, they didn't seem to think that that was an option.
Presumably their charges are significantly more than the amount the
council will pay.

She could easily find that the costs exceed £4K per month.:-(

Move to Shropshire.  First rate home for £700 per week. I know, it's a
lot, but it's a lot less than other regions.

Add 40% if the patient has dementia.

Nope. Mum has severe dementia. No difference in cost. There is an
extra cost for Nursing Care when the time comes, but that is paid by the
NHS.

I'm curious as to which nursing home that is, David.

[the Omrud]

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Post by krw

Move to Shropshire.  First rate home for £700 per week. I know, it's a
lot, but it's a lot less than other regions.

Add 40% if the patient has dementia.

Nope. Mum has severe dementia. No difference in cost. There is an
extra cost for Nursing Care when the time comes, but that is paid by the
NHS.

I'm curious as to which nursing home that is, David.

I don't think there's any harm in giving you the details.

https://www.coveragecareservices.co.uk/our-care-homes/innage-grange

It was built by the local authority and later handed over to a
Non-Profit company to run. It's purpose built, bright, friendly and
open. Family get the codes to the doors and can come and go without
question. There is free access to plenty of outside space, but it's
into courtyards which are within the building so this doesn't offer
opportunities for escape.

Residents live in small units of 12 or so but most of them can go
anywhere within the home during the day (some units are closed for
safety reasons). Mum lived in another town in Shropshire but this home
is close to my sister's house.

There are different units for different needs - residents can move as
their needs change, right up to end-of-life care.

[Sally Thompson]

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Move to Shropshire.  First rate home for £700 per week. I know, it's a
lot, but it's a lot less than other regions.

Add 40% if the patient has dementia.

Nope. Mum has severe dementia. No difference in cost. There is an
extra cost for Nursing Care when the time comes, but that is paid by the
NHS.

I'm curious as to which nursing home that is, David.

I don't think there's any harm in giving you the details.
https://www.coveragecareservices.co.uk/our-care-homes/innage-grange
It was built by the local authority and later handed over to a
Non-Profit company to run. It's purpose built, bright, friendly and
open. Family get the codes to the doors and can come and go without
question. There is free access to plenty of outside space, but it's
into courtyards which are within the building so this doesn't offer
opportunities for escape.
Residents live in small units of 12 or so but most of them can go
anywhere within the home during the day (some units are closed for
safety reasons). Mum lived in another town in Shropshire but this home
is close to my sister's house.
There are different units for different needs - residents can move as
their needs change, right up to end-of-life care.

It looks and sounds pretty good. Such a difficult choice to have to make.

[the Omrud]

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Move to Shropshire.  First rate home for £700 per week. I know, it's a
lot, but it's a lot less than other regions.

Add 40% if the patient has dementia.

Nope. Mum has severe dementia. No difference in cost. There is an
extra cost for Nursing Care when the time comes, but that is paid by the
NHS.

I'm curious as to which nursing home that is, David.

I don't think there's any harm in giving you the details.
https://www.coveragecareservices.co.uk/our-care-homes/innage-grange
It was built by the local authority and later handed over to a
Non-Profit company to run. It's purpose built, bright, friendly and
open. Family get the codes to the doors and can come and go without
question. There is free access to plenty of outside space, but it's
into courtyards which are within the building so this doesn't offer
opportunities for escape.
Residents live in small units of 12 or so but most of them can go
anywhere within the home during the day (some units are closed for
safety reasons). Mum lived in another town in Shropshire but this home
is close to my sister's house.
There are different units for different needs - residents can move as
their needs change, right up to end-of-life care.

It looks and sounds pretty good. Such a difficult choice to have to make.

Dad was in a different home, which we partly chose because it was around
the corner from their house. It was very good, very pleasant, but on
reflection we prefer the one Mum's in because of its size. There's
loads of space to move around and interact with different residents. At
Dad's home, everybody sat in the one living room all day and everybody
ate in a single dining room. At Mum's, each one of the Units has its
own sitting, dining, and TV areas, plus there are two enormous lounge
areas for combined events, a conservatory and a room with a dozen tables
with chairs, tea, coffee and snacks, suitable for any purpose which
residents and families want to make of it.

[Serena Blanchflower]

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Oh dear. I suppose the race in the St Stephen Churchyard stakes just
got a probably winner. I hope not. That was the best scene I've heard
Christine in. I liked how she was able to cheer Fallon up, having
similar experiences. Someone mentioned a broken hip but it didn't say
that so I wonder if that's a spoiler from somewhere. Or is it just
that that is what often breaks.

No, I'm pretty sure that she's going to live but too disabled to be able
to continue living independently with Peggy at The Dower House.
This is
when everyone will discover that she's lost all her savings and that she
won't be able to afford a room at The Laurels but may have to go to live
in a home which the council will pay for.
It will also give Peggy a dilemma, as she had previously said that she
would pay, if Christine had to go into The Laurels but now, of course,
she wants to use her money to keep Brian and Jenny at Home Farm.

Post by Vicky Ayech
Meanwhile back with the Lynda is all powerful storylines, the panto
has started early with the BL event. I wish Lilian has just said no.

So do I.

Hopefully the Laurels takes those on low incomes too.

I'm pretty sure that, when Peggy and Christine were discussing it, a
while back, they didn't seem to think that that was an option.
Presumably their charges are significantly more than the amount the
council will pay.

She could easily find that the costs exceed £4K per month.:-(

Move to Shropshire.  First rate home for £700 per week. I know, it's
a lot, but it's a lot less than other regions.

Add 40% if the patient has dementia.

Nope.  Mum has severe dementia.  No difference in cost.  There is an
extra cost for Nursing Care when the time comes, but that is paid by the
NHS.

It can be quite a battle to get the NHS to agree to that and the
contribution they make may not cover the entire cost. A friend of mine
spent the last few months of his life in a nursing home, costing about
twice what you're paying and the NHS contribution was pretty
negligible[1], despite him needing a significant level of nursing care.

A few years earlier, his mother had had to go into a nursing home, with
dementia and they had a major battle about whether she qualified for any
NHS funding. Another friend is currently fighting the same battle on
behalf of her mother.

[1] I forget the exact amount but I do remember that it wasn't much.

[krw]

and the NHS contribution was pretty negligible[1], despite him needing a
significant level of nursing care.

In the case of my mother the NHS refused any funding at all. My sister
should probably have appealed but it was not long before my mother died.

[the Omrud]

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She could easily find that the costs exceed £4K per month.:-(

Move to Shropshire.  First rate home for £700 per week. I know, it's
a lot, but it's a lot less than other regions.

Add 40% if the patient has dementia.

Nope.  Mum has severe dementia.  No difference in cost.  There is an
extra cost for Nursing Care when the time comes, but that is paid by
the NHS.

It can be quite a battle to get the NHS to agree to that and the
contribution they make may not cover the entire cost.  A friend of mine
spent the last few months of his life in a nursing home, costing about
twice what you're paying and the NHS contribution was pretty
negligible[1], despite him needing a significant level of nursing care.
A few years earlier, his mother had had to go into a nursing home, with
dementia and they had a major battle about whether she qualified for any
NHS funding.  Another friend is currently fighting the same battle on
behalf of her mother.
[1] I forget the exact amount but I do remember that it wasn't much.

I have a vague memory that the Nursing Care supplement is a fixed amount
of about £130 per week. As I understand it, the home would apply when
the time comes, then put their price up to match, at which point the
resident would be moved into a Nursing Unit with qualified nurses on
duty and a higher staff to resident ratio.

[Serena Blanchflower]

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Post by Mike
She could easily find that the costs exceed £4K per month.:-(

Move to Shropshire.  First rate home for £700 per week. I know,
it's a lot, but it's a lot less than other regions.

Add 40% if the patient has dementia.

Nope.  Mum has severe dementia.  No difference in cost.  There is an
extra cost for Nursing Care when the time comes, but that is paid by
the NHS.

It can be quite a battle to get the NHS to agree to that and the
contribution they make may not cover the entire cost.  A friend of
mine spent the last few months of his life in a nursing home, costing
about twice what you're paying and the NHS contribution was pretty
negligible[1], despite him needing a significant level of nursing care.
A few years earlier, his mother had had to go into a nursing home,
with dementia and they had a major battle about whether she qualified
for any NHS funding.  Another friend is currently fighting the same
battle on behalf of her mother.
[1] I forget the exact amount but I do remember that it wasn't much.

I have a vague memory that the Nursing Care supplement is a fixed amount
of about £130 per week.  As I understand it, the home would apply when
the time comes, then put their price up to match, at which point the
resident would be moved into a Nursing Unit with qualified nurses on
duty and a higher staff to resident ratio.

Good luck and I hope that, if /when it's needed, the process works
smoothly. It sounds as if the home's well organised to deal with it.

[the Omrud]

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Post by Mike
She could easily find that the costs exceed £4K per month.:-(

Move to Shropshire.  First rate home for £700 per week. I know,
it's a lot, but it's a lot less than other regions.

Add 40% if the patient has dementia.

Nope.  Mum has severe dementia.  No difference in cost.  There is an
extra cost for Nursing Care when the time comes, but that is paid by
the NHS.

It can be quite a battle to get the NHS to agree to that and the
contribution they make may not cover the entire cost.  A friend of
mine spent the last few months of his life in a nursing home, costing
about twice what you're paying and the NHS contribution was pretty
negligible[1], despite him needing a significant level of nursing care.
A few years earlier, his mother had had to go into a nursing home,
with dementia and they had a major battle about whether she qualified
for any NHS funding.  Another friend is currently fighting the same
battle on behalf of her mother.
[1] I forget the exact amount but I do remember that it wasn't much.

I have a vague memory that the Nursing Care supplement is a fixed amount
of about £130 per week.  As I understand it, the home would apply when
the time comes, then put their price up to match, at which point the
resident would be moved into a Nursing Unit with qualified nurses on
duty and a higher staff to resident ratio.

Well, out of the blue the home has informed me that there will be a
Multidisciplinary Team Review of Mum. I phoned the team (at least in
Shropshire you can always get hold of a human to talk to) and seems that
this is to establish her medical and mental health needs. After that
they'll tell us if she's entitled to NHS funding, either fully or
partly. We didn't ask for this, but the worst that can happen is no
change, so I'll go along to translate Mum's ramblings.

[Chris McMillan]

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Post by Mike
She could easily find that the costs exceed £4K per month.:-(

Move to Shropshire.  First rate home for £700 per week. I know,
it's a lot, but it's a lot less than other regions.

Add 40% if the patient has dementia.

Nope.  Mum has severe dementia.  No difference in cost.  There is an
extra cost for Nursing Care when the time comes, but that is paid by
the NHS.

It can be quite a battle to get the NHS to agree to that and the
contribution they make may not cover the entire cost.  A friend of
mine spent the last few months of his life in a nursing home, costing
about twice what you're paying and the NHS contribution was pretty
negligible[1], despite him needing a significant level of nursing care.
A few years earlier, his mother had had to go into a nursing home,
with dementia and they had a major battle about whether she qualified
for any NHS funding.  Another friend is currently fighting the same
battle on behalf of her mother.
[1] I forget the exact amount but I do remember that it wasn't much.

I have a vague memory that the Nursing Care supplement is a fixed amount
of about £130 per week.  As I understand it, the home would apply when
the time comes, then put their price up to match, at which point the
resident would be moved into a Nursing Unit with qualified nurses on
duty and a higher staff to resident ratio.

Well, out of the blue the home has informed me that there will be a
Multidisciplinary Team Review of Mum. I phoned the team (at least in
Shropshire you can always get hold of a human to talk to) and seems that
this is to establish her medical and mental health needs. After that
they'll tell us if she's entitled to NHS funding, either fully or
partly. We didn't ask for this, but the worst that can happen is no
change, so I'll go along to translate Mum's ramblings.

Good luck, David!

Sincerely Chris

[the Omrud]

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She could easily find that the costs exceed £4K per month.:-(

Move to Shropshire.  First rate home for £700 per week. I know,
it's a lot, but it's a lot less than other regions.

Add 40% if the patient has dementia.

Nope.  Mum has severe dementia.  No difference in cost.  There is an
extra cost for Nursing Care when the time comes, but that is paid by
the NHS.

It can be quite a battle to get the NHS to agree to that and the
contribution they make may not cover the entire cost.  A friend of
mine spent the last few months of his life in a nursing home, costing
about twice what you're paying and the NHS contribution was pretty
negligible[1], despite him needing a significant level of nursing care.
A few years earlier, his mother had had to go into a nursing home,
with dementia and they had a major battle about whether she qualified
for any NHS funding.  Another friend is currently fighting the same
battle on behalf of her mother.
[1] I forget the exact amount but I do remember that it wasn't much.

I have a vague memory that the Nursing Care supplement is a fixed amount
of about £130 per week.  As I understand it, the home would apply when
the time comes, then put their price up to match, at which point the
resident would be moved into a Nursing Unit with qualified nurses on
duty and a higher staff to resident ratio.

Well, out of the blue the home has informed me that there will be a
Multidisciplinary Team Review of Mum. I phoned the team (at least in
Shropshire you can always get hold of a human to talk to) and seems that
this is to establish her medical and mental health needs. After that
they'll tell us if she's entitled to NHS funding, either fully or
partly. We didn't ask for this, but the worst that can happen is no
change, so I'll go along to translate Mum's ramblings.

Good luck, David!

Thnaks, but I'm off the hook. I'd forgotten that my sister doesn't work
on Fridays. She's only a mile from the care home (compared with 100
miles for me), so she's going to deal with it.

[Chris McMillan]

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Oh dear. I suppose the race in the St Stephen Churchyard stakes just
got a probably winner. I hope not. That was the best scene I've heard
Christine in. I liked how she was able to cheer Fallon up, having
similar experiences. Someone mentioned a broken hip but it didn't say
that so I wonder if that's a spoiler from somewhere. Or is it just
that that is what often breaks.

No, I'm pretty sure that she's going to live but too disabled to be able
to continue living independently with Peggy at The Dower House.
This is
when everyone will discover that she's lost all her savings and that she
won't be able to afford a room at The Laurels but may have to go to live
in a home which the council will pay for.
It will also give Peggy a dilemma, as she had previously said that she
would pay, if Christine had to go into The Laurels but now, of course,
she wants to use her money to keep Brian and Jenny at Home Farm.

Post by Vicky Ayech
Meanwhile back with the Lynda is all powerful storylines, the panto
has started early with the BL event. I wish Lilian has just said no.

So do I.

Hopefully the Laurels takes those on low incomes too.

I'm pretty sure that, when Peggy and Christine were discussing it, a
while back, they didn't seem to think that that was an option.
Presumably their charges are significantly more than the amount the
council will pay.

She could easily find that the costs exceed £4K per month.:-(

Move to Shropshire.  First rate home for £700 per week. I know, it's
a lot, but it's a lot less than other regions.

Add 40% if the patient has dementia.

Nope.  Mum has severe dementia.  No difference in cost.  There is an
extra cost for Nursing Care when the time comes, but that is paid by the
NHS.

It can be quite a battle to get the NHS to agree to that and the
contribution they make may not cover the entire cost.

Staff told me upfront, they always get whatever the nhs element is.

I must remember to ask if she’s got her attendance allowance yet. The whole
experience has taken over my life!

Sincerely Chris

[Sally Thompson]

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Oh dear. I suppose the race in the St Stephen Churchyard stakes just
got a probably winner. I hope not. That was the best scene I've heard
Christine in. I liked how she was able to cheer Fallon up, having
similar experiences. Someone mentioned a broken hip but it didn't say
that so I wonder if that's a spoiler from somewhere. Or is it just
that that is what often breaks.

No, I'm pretty sure that she's going to live but too disabled to be able
to continue living independently with Peggy at The Dower House. This is
when everyone will discover that she's lost all her savings and that she
won't be able to afford a room at The Laurels but may have to go to live
in a home which the council will pay for.
It will also give Peggy a dilemma, as she had previously said that she
would pay, if Christine had to go into The Laurels but now, of course,
she wants to use her money to keep Brian and Jenny at Home Farm.

Post by Vicky Ayech
Meanwhile back with the Lynda is all powerful storylines, the panto
has started early with the BL event. I wish Lilian has just said no.

So do I.

Hopefully the Laurels takes those on low incomes too.

I'm pretty sure that, when Peggy and Christine were discussing it, a
while back, they didn't seem to think that that was an option.
Presumably their charges are significantly more than the amount the
council will pay.

She could easily find that the costs exceed £4K per month.:-(

Move to Shropshire. First rate home for £700 per week. I know, it's a
lot, but it's a lot less than other regions.

I'll bear it in mind:-)

[Chris McMillan]

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Oh dear. I suppose the race in the St Stephen Churchyard stakes just
got a probably winner. I hope not. That was the best scene I've heard
Christine in. I liked how she was able to cheer Fallon up, having
similar experiences. Someone mentioned a broken hip but it didn't say
that so I wonder if that's a spoiler from somewhere. Or is it just
that that is what often breaks.

No, I'm pretty sure that she's going to live but too disabled to be able
to continue living independently with Peggy at The Dower House. This is
when everyone will discover that she's lost all her savings and that she
won't be able to afford a room at The Laurels but may have to go to live
in a home which the council will pay for.
It will also give Peggy a dilemma, as she had previously said that she
would pay, if Christine had to go into The Laurels but now, of course,
she wants to use her money to keep Brian and Jenny at Home Farm.

Post by Vicky Ayech
Meanwhile back with the Lynda is all powerful storylines, the panto
has started early with the BL event. I wish Lilian has just said no.

So do I.

Hopefully the Laurels takes those on low incomes too.

I'm pretty sure that, when Peggy and Christine were discussing it, a
while back, they didn't seem to think that that was an option.
Presumably their charges are significantly more than the amount the
council will pay.

She could easily find that the costs exceed £4K per month.:-(

Move to Shropshire. First rate home for £700 per week. I know, it's a
lot, but it's a lot less than other regions.

Depends on how much care one needs as well as the type of care home. One
run by a charitable organisation can be less than £700 pw. On the other
hand full care for dementia. Well over £1k a week. But the state will do
its’ bit at this stage. Waiting to hear how much is repaid after an
assessment.

Sincerely Chris

[Serena Blanchflower]

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Oh dear. I suppose the race in the St Stephen Churchyard stakes just
got a probably winner. I hope not. That was the best scene I've heard
Christine in. I liked how she was able to cheer Fallon up, having
similar experiences. Someone mentioned a broken hip but it didn't say
that so I wonder if that's a spoiler from somewhere. Or is it just
that that is what often breaks.

No, I'm pretty sure that she's going to live but too disabled to be able
to continue living independently with Peggy at The Dower House. This is
when everyone will discover that she's lost all her savings and that she
won't be able to afford a room at The Laurels but may have to go to live
in a home which the council will pay for.
It will also give Peggy a dilemma, as she had previously said that she
would pay, if Christine had to go into The Laurels but now, of course,
she wants to use her money to keep Brian and Jenny at Home Farm.

Post by Vicky Ayech
Meanwhile back with the Lynda is all powerful storylines, the panto
has started early with the BL event. I wish Lilian has just said no.

So do I.

Hopefully the Laurels takes those on low incomes too.

I'm pretty sure that, when Peggy and Christine were discussing it, a
while back, they didn't seem to think that that was an option.
Presumably their charges are significantly more than the amount the
council will pay.

She could easily find that the costs exceed £4K per month.:-(

Very easily, if she needs a nursing home or has particularly high care
needs (such as dementia).

[Chris McMillan]

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Oh dear. I suppose the race in the St Stephen Churchyard stakes just
got a probably winner. I hope not. That was the best scene I've heard
Christine in. I liked how she was able to cheer Fallon up, having
similar experiences. Someone mentioned a broken hip but it didn't say
that so I wonder if that's a spoiler from somewhere. Or is it just
that that is what often breaks.

No, I'm pretty sure that she's going to live but too disabled to be able
to continue living independently with Peggy at The Dower House. This is
when everyone will discover that she's lost all her savings and that she
won't be able to afford a room at The Laurels but may have to go to live
in a home which the council will pay for.
It will also give Peggy a dilemma, as she had previously said that she
would pay, if Christine had to go into The Laurels but now, of course,
she wants to use her money to keep Brian and Jenny at Home Farm.

Post by Vicky Ayech
Meanwhile back with the Lynda is all powerful storylines, the panto
has started early with the BL event. I wish Lilian has just said no.

So do I.

Hopefully the Laurels takes those on low incomes too.

I'm pretty sure that, when Peggy and Christine were discussing it, a
while back, they didn't seem to think that that was an option.
Presumably their charges are significantly more than the amount the
council will pay.

Yebbut was the discussion pre or post Christine losing her savings? Peggoi
owns The Lodge, we don’t know whether Christine has put money in it,
they’ve changed their wills so she is a part owner etc.

Sincerely Chris

[Serena Blanchflower]

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Oh dear. I suppose the race in the St Stephen Churchyard stakes just
got a probably winner. I hope not. That was the best scene I've heard
Christine in. I liked how she was able to cheer Fallon up, having
similar experiences. Someone mentioned a broken hip but it didn't say
that so I wonder if that's a spoiler from somewhere. Or is it just
that that is what often breaks.

No, I'm pretty sure that she's going to live but too disabled to be able
to continue living independently with Peggy at The Dower House. This is
when everyone will discover that she's lost all her savings and that she
won't be able to afford a room at The Laurels but may have to go to live
in a home which the council will pay for.
It will also give Peggy a dilemma, as she had previously said that she
would pay, if Christine had to go into The Laurels but now, of course,
she wants to use her money to keep Brian and Jenny at Home Farm.

Post by Vicky Ayech
Meanwhile back with the Lynda is all powerful storylines, the panto
has started early with the BL event. I wish Lilian has just said no.

So do I.

Hopefully the Laurels takes those on low incomes too.

I'm pretty sure that, when Peggy and Christine were discussing it, a
while back, they didn't seem to think that that was an option.
Presumably their charges are significantly more than the amount the
council will pay.

Yebbut was the discussion pre or post Christine losing her savings? Peggoi
owns The Lodge, we don’t know whether Christine has put money in it,
they’ve changed their wills so she is a part owner etc.

It was post losing her savings and in the context of Christine worrying
that, should she ever need care, she wouldn't be able to afford to go
into The Laurels. I don't think there's ever been any suggestion of
Christine having either bought or been given a share of The Lodge.
Legally, she's just Peggy's lodger.

[Chris McMillan]

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Oh dear. I suppose the race in the St Stephen Churchyard stakes just
got a probably winner. I hope not. That was the best scene I've heard
Christine in. I liked how she was able to cheer Fallon up, having
similar experiences. Someone mentioned a broken hip but it didn't say
that so I wonder if that's a spoiler from somewhere. Or is it just
that that is what often breaks.

No, I'm pretty sure that she's going to live but too disabled to be able
to continue living independently with Peggy at The Dower House. This is
when everyone will discover that she's lost all her savings and that she
won't be able to afford a room at The Laurels but may have to go to live
in a home which the council will pay for.
It will also give Peggy a dilemma, as she had previously said that she
would pay, if Christine had to go into The Laurels but now, of course,
she wants to use her money to keep Brian and Jenny at Home Farm.

Post by Vicky Ayech
Meanwhile back with the Lynda is all powerful storylines, the panto
has started early with the BL event. I wish Lilian has just said no.

So do I.

Hopefully the Laurels takes those on low incomes too.

I'm pretty sure that, when Peggy and Christine were discussing it, a
while back, they didn't seem to think that that was an option.
Presumably their charges are significantly more than the amount the
council will pay.

Yebbut was the discussion pre or post Christine losing her savings? Peggoi
owns The Lodge, we don’t know whether Christine has put money in it,
they’ve changed their wills so she is a part owner etc.

It was post losing her savings and in the context of Christine worrying
that, should she ever need care, she wouldn't be able to afford to go
into The Laurels. I don't think there's ever been any suggestion of
Christine having either bought or been given a share of The Lodge.
Legally, she's just Peggy's lodger.

So she could be penniless. Maybe her son is much more than an orchestral
player with cash to spare

Sincerely Chris

[Serena Blanchflower]

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Oh dear. I suppose the race in the St Stephen Churchyard stakes just
got a probably winner. I hope not. That was the best scene I've heard
Christine in. I liked how she was able to cheer Fallon up, having
similar experiences. Someone mentioned a broken hip but it didn't say
that so I wonder if that's a spoiler from somewhere. Or is it just
that that is what often breaks.

No, I'm pretty sure that she's going to live but too disabled to be able
to continue living independently with Peggy at The Dower House. This is
when everyone will discover that she's lost all her savings and that she
won't be able to afford a room at The Laurels but may have to go to live
in a home which the council will pay for.
It will also give Peggy a dilemma, as she had previously said that she
would pay, if Christine had to go into The Laurels but now, of course,
she wants to use her money to keep Brian and Jenny at Home Farm.

Post by Vicky Ayech
Meanwhile back with the Lynda is all powerful storylines, the panto
has started early with the BL event. I wish Lilian has just said no.

So do I.

Hopefully the Laurels takes those on low incomes too.

I'm pretty sure that, when Peggy and Christine were discussing it, a
while back, they didn't seem to think that that was an option.
Presumably their charges are significantly more than the amount the
council will pay.

Yebbut was the discussion pre or post Christine losing her savings? Peggoi
owns The Lodge, we don’t know whether Christine has put money in it,
they’ve changed their wills so she is a part owner etc.

It was post losing her savings and in the context of Christine worrying
that, should she ever need care, she wouldn't be able to afford to go
into The Laurels. I don't think there's ever been any suggestion of
Christine having either bought or been given a share of The Lodge.
Legally, she's just Peggy's lodger.

So she could be penniless. Maybe her son is much more than an orchestral
player with cash to spare

Yes, she is. Most of the village think she only lost £50K (leaving her
with the £300K she got for her cottage) but she actually lost
everything. She was left with just George's pension but nothing in
reserve. From the comment one of the family (Tony?) made, her son
thinks she'll do fine once she's home, before disappearing at high
speed, with no intention of helping to make this happen.

[Mike]

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Oh dear. I suppose the race in the St Stephen Churchyard stakes just
got a probably winner. I hope not. That was the best scene I've heard
Christine in. I liked how she was able to cheer Fallon up, having
similar experiences. Someone mentioned a broken hip but it didn't say
that so I wonder if that's a spoiler from somewhere. Or is it just
that that is what often breaks.

No, I'm pretty sure that she's going to live but too disabled to be able
to continue living independently with Peggy at The Dower House. This is
when everyone will discover that she's lost all her savings and that she
won't be able to afford a room at The Laurels but may have to go to live
in a home which the council will pay for.
It will also give Peggy a dilemma, as she had previously said that she
would pay, if Christine had to go into The Laurels but now, of course,
she wants to use her money to keep Brian and Jenny at Home Farm.

Post by Vicky Ayech
Meanwhile back with the Lynda is all powerful storylines, the panto
has started early with the BL event. I wish Lilian has just said no.

So do I.

Hopefully the Laurels takes those on low incomes too.

I'm pretty sure that, when Peggy and Christine were discussing it, a
while back, they didn't seem to think that that was an option.
Presumably their charges are significantly more than the amount the
council will pay.

Yebbut was the discussion pre or post Christine losing her savings? Peggoi
owns The Lodge, we don’t know whether Christine has put money in it,
they’ve changed their wills so she is a part owner etc.

It was post losing her savings and in the context of Christine worrying
that, should she ever need care, she wouldn't be able to afford to go
into The Laurels. I don't think there's ever been any suggestion of
Christine having either bought or been given a share of The Lodge.
Legally, she's just Peggy's lodger.

So she could be penniless. Maybe her son is much more than an orchestral
player with cash to spare

Yes, she is. Most of the village think she only lost £50K (leaving her
with the £300K she got for her cottage) but she actually lost
everything. She was left with just George's pension but nothing in
reserve. From the comment one of the family (Tony?) made, her son
thinks she'll do fine once she's home, before disappearing at high
speed, with no intention of helping to make this happen.

So he won’t be instrumental in helping her in any way? That’s no way to
conduct himself , he must know the score - unless Christine has staved off
the day of admitting to him she is penniless, she has been beaten down and
starts from the bass of having the minim of help from the family.

[J. P. Gilliver (John)]

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reserve. From the comment one of the family (Tony?) made, her son
thinks she'll do fine once she's home, before disappearing at high
speed, with no intention of helping to make this happen.

So he won’t be instrumental in helping her in any way? That’s no way to
conduct himself , he must know the score - unless Christine has staved off
the day of admitting to him she is penniless, she has been beaten down and
starts from the bass of having the minim of help from the family.

I think she has _very_ much limited who she's told the full extent to -
Peggy, and maybe one other (Elizabeth?). It wouldn't surprise me if
she's _particularly_ unwilling for close family to know.

[Mike]

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reserve. From the comment one of the family (Tony?) made, her son
thinks she'll do fine once she's home, before disappearing at high
speed, with no intention of helping to make this happen.

So he won’t be instrumental in helping her in any way? That’s no way to
conduct himself , he must know the score - unless Christine has staved off
the day of admitting to him she is penniless, she has been beaten down and
starts from the bass of having the minim of help from the family.

I think she has _very_ much limited who she's told the full extent to -
Peggy, and maybe one other (Elizabeth?). It wouldn't surprise me if
she's _particularly_ unwilling for close family to know.

I have a feeling the SWs are going to harp on about it to drum the plot
into us and string us along for ages - it is their forte.

[krw]

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reserve. From the comment one of the family (Tony?) made, her son
thinks she'll do fine once she's home, before disappearing at high
speed, with no intention of helping to make this happen.

So he won’t be instrumental in helping her in any way? That’s no way to
conduct himself , he must know the score - unless Christine has staved off
the day of admitting to him she is penniless, she has been beaten down and
starts from the bass of having the minim of help from the family.

I think she has _very_ much limited who she's told the full extent to -
Peggy, and maybe one other (Elizabeth?). It wouldn't surprise me if
she's _particularly_ unwilling for close family to know.

I have a feeling the SWs are going to harp on about it to drum the plot
into us and string us along for ages - it is their forte.

Whisper it quietly please, they do not want everyone to know.