God is not responsible.

On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 14:27:32 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by Michael Christ
All this terrible stuff that happens in the world is not God, it is men
doing terrible things to other men. They want their own way!
And now yet another shocking shooting, a synagogue shooting in the USA!
Another shooting in an endless list now!! I was watching the news this
morning and I thought to myself, there's another one!
How shocking is that??!!
Who has the right to take another person's life, to snuff out another's
right to life??? Have you that right??!! No! Lock them up, sure, but
to take another man's life is only God's right. I'd rather be killed
myself than to take another man's life, no matter what!

It isn't "men," who cause the problems, it is those sick twisted
religiously inculcated excuses for men that cause the problems. No
one blames a non-existent deity for the work of religious ninnies.

Post by Michael Christ
Michael Christ

Michael Christ

2018-10-29 07:33:36 UTC

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On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 14:27:32 +1100, Michael Christ

It isn't "men," who cause the problems, it is those sick twisted > religiously inculcated excuses for men that cause the problems.

There have been many brutal and terrible murders and shootings. It has
all been all done in the name of man doing *whatever he wants* without
the guidance of God. Religion or non-religion is not the problem, Bob,
you've been educated in that.

The human heart is the problem. Please resolve to receive the truth!

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No one blames a non-existent deity for the work of religious ninnies.

You seem to have a real twisted bent at the moment, Bob.

Please reconsider your behaviour.

Michael Christ

Yap Honghor

2018-10-29 08:14:07 UTC

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On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 14:27:32 +1100, Michael Christ

It isn't "men," who cause the problems, it is those sick twisted > religiously inculcated excuses for men that cause the problems.

So, the shooting is yet another example that there is no pixie, right????

Post by Michael Christ
The human heart is the problem. Please resolve to receive the truth!

Many human beings are born with unstable reasoning....many are greedy and have no control over their desire!! Yet others are born with stupid mind, selfishly wishing to impose his own will!! Some are easily angered and resort to vengeance....

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No one blames a non-existent deity for the work of religious ninnies.

You seem to have a real twisted bent at the moment, Bob.

You rely upon a non-existent pixie which can't be doing anything.

Post by Michael Christ
Please reconsider your behaviour.

You have to get rid of your superstition!!!!!!!!

Post by Michael Christ
Michael Christ

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2018-10-29 13:23:57 UTC

On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 18:33:36 +1100, Michael Christ

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On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 14:27:32 +1100, Michael Christ

It isn't "men," who cause the problems, it is those sick twisted > religiously inculcated excuses for men that cause the problems.

Tell that to the jihadists.

Post by Michael Christ
The human heart is the problem. Please resolve to receive the truth!

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No one blames a non-existent deity for the work of religious ninnies.

You seem to have a real twisted bent at the moment, Bob.
Please reconsider your behaviour.
Michael Christ

aaa

2018-10-29 14:19:28 UTC

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On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 14:27:32 +1100, Michael Christ

It isn't "men," who cause the problems, it is those sick twisted
religiously inculcated excuses for men that cause the problems. No
one blames a non-existent deity for the work of religious ninnies.

When people don't know God, human ideologies will fight against each
other to death. When all people know God, human ideologies will serve
God to make the world a better place instead. Regardless it's religious
or nonreligious ideology, it can only be good by following God's will.

Post by Michael Christ
Michael Christ

--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

Michael Christ

2018-10-29 23:37:52 UTC

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On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 14:27:32 +1100, Michael Christ

It isn't "men," who cause the problems, it is those sick twisted
religiously inculcated excuses for men that cause the problems. No
one blames a non-existent deity for the work of religious ninnies.

When people don't know God, human ideologies will fight against each
other to death.

Yes, and Christian people like you and their ideologies are in one
accord and they love God with all their hearts, souls and minds and love
their neighbour as themself.

Can I get an amen??

Or are you talking in blind ignorance and hypocrisy??

Post by aaa
When all people know God, human ideologies will serve
God to make the world a better place instead. Regardless it's religious
or nonreligious ideology, it can only be good by following God's will.

I agree, but how can you be a follower of God while having to repent
continually. Does the Lord lead into sin??

'You have made provision for sin'.

A follower of the Lord Jesus is a follower full time or he is not a
follower at all. There are no part-timers in Christ Jesus.

Rich young ruler, lose it all and follow me...some/most/mostly all of
the time???

Are you beginning to see that the standards of God are very different
from that of religion, and the 'provision for sin' mainstream
Christianity of man??

Michael Christ

aaa

2018-10-30 15:17:10 UTC

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On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 14:27:32 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by Michael Christ
All this terrible stuff that happens in the world is not God,
it is men doing terrible things to other men. They want their
own way!
And now yet another shocking shooting, a synagogue shooting in
the USA! Another shooting in an endless list now!! I was
watching the news this morning and I thought to myself, there's
another one!
How shocking is that??!!
Who has the right to take another person's life, to snuff out
another's right to life??? Have you that right??!! No! Lock
them up, sure, but to take another man's life is only God's
right. I'd rather be killed myself than to take another man's
life, no matter what!

It isn't "men," who cause the problems, it is those sick twisted
religiously inculcated excuses for men that cause the problems.
No one blames a non-existent deity for the work of religious
ninnies.

When people don't know God, human ideologies will fight against
each other to death.

Yes, and Christian people like you and their ideologies are in one
accord and they love God with all their hearts, souls and minds and
love their neighbour as themself.
Can I get an amen??

No, you can't. Christians don't follow any ideology in their mind. They
follow Christ who lives in their heart.

Post by Michael Christ
Or are you talking in blind ignorance and hypocrisy??

Post by aaa
When all people know God, human ideologies will serve God to make
the world a better place instead. Regardless it's religious or
nonreligious ideology, it can only be good by following God's
will.

I agree, but how can you be a follower of God while having to repent
continually. Does the Lord lead into sin??

No. It's because the human intelligence is prone to make mistakes.
Without repentance, there is no chance for the human intelligence to
learn from its mistakes.

Post by Michael Christ
'You have made provision for sin'.

I disagree. It's not a provision for sin. It's recognizing the fallible
nature of human intelligence.

Post by Michael Christ
A follower of the Lord Jesus is a follower full time or he is not a
follower at all. There are no part-timers in Christ Jesus.

Just because people will make mistakes doesn't mean they have stopped
believing in God.

Post by Michael Christ
Rich young ruler, lose it all and follow me...some/most/mostly all of
the time???
Are you beginning to see that the standards of God are very different
from that of religion, and the 'provision for sin' mainstream
Christianity of man??

You need to realize that having the belief in God doesn't automatically
make a person blameless and faultless. There is a lot to learn as a
believer of God.

Post by Michael Christ
Michael Christ

--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

Yap Honghor

2018-10-30 02:24:26 UTC

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On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 14:27:32 +1100, Michael Christ

It isn't "men," who cause the problems, it is those sick twisted
religiously inculcated excuses for men that cause the problems. No
one blames a non-existent deity for the work of religious ninnies.

Everything about this world is the result of human!!!!!!!!!
There is no possibility for our world to insert a pixie, otherwise, we won't see wars, poverty, diseases and fucking idiots like you.....

Post by Michael Christ
Michael Christ

--
Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

2018-10-30 02:25:58 UTC

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On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 14:27:32 +1100, Michael Christ

It isn't "men," who cause the problems, it is those sick twisted
religiously inculcated excuses for men that cause the problems. No
one blames a non-existent deity for the work of religious ninnies.

Everything about this world is the result of human!!!!!!!!!
There is no possibility for our world to insert a pixie, otherwise, we won't see wars, poverty, diseases and fucking idiots like you.....

Post by Michael Christ
Michael Christ

--
Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

in my bum

aaa

2018-10-30 15:25:34 UTC

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On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 14:27:32 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by Michael Christ
All this terrible stuff that happens in the world is not God,
it is men doing terrible things to other men. They want their
own way!
And now yet another shocking shooting, a synagogue shooting in
the USA! Another shooting in an endless list now!! I was
watching the news this morning and I thought to myself, there's
another one!
How shocking is that??!!
Who has the right to take another person's life, to snuff out
another's right to life??? Have you that right??!! No! Lock
them up, sure, but to take another man's life is only God's
right. I'd rather be killed myself than to take another man's
life, no matter what!

It isn't "men," who cause the problems, it is those sick twisted
religiously inculcated excuses for men that cause the problems.
No one blames a non-existent deity for the work of religious
ninnies.

When people don't know God, human ideologies will fight against
each other to death. When all people know God, human ideologies
will serve God to make the world a better place instead. Regardless
it's religious or nonreligious ideology, it can only be good by
following God's will.

Everything about this world is the result of human!!!!!!!!! There is
no possibility for our world to insert a pixie, otherwise, we won't
see wars, poverty, diseases and fucking idiots like you.....

That is exactly why God is absolutely needed if we want to eliminate
wars, poverty, and diseases.

Post by Michael Christ
Michael Christ

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness,
intelligence, happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom,
and life itself.

--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

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2018-10-30 10:30:21 UTC

Post by default
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 14:27:32 +1100, Michael Christ

It isn't "men," who cause the problems, it is those sick twisted
religiously inculcated excuses for men that cause the problems. No
one blames a non-existent deity for the work of religious ninnies.

When people DO "know" god religious ideologies will fight against each
other to death. Like Israel, and Palestine, Catholic vs Protestant,
Sunni vs Shiite, Muslim vs everyone, Christian vs everyone,
Scientologist vs everyone, etc. vs etc..

And they are ALL "following god's will."

Post by Michael Christ
Michael Christ

Michael Christ

2018-10-30 10:34:50 UTC

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On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 14:27:32 +1100, Michael Christ

It isn't "men," who cause the problems, it is those sick twisted
religiously inculcated excuses for men that cause the problems. No
one blames a non-existent deity for the work of religious ninnies.

None of them are.

They are all doing what you are doing, doing what is right in your own
eyes with a corrupt heart.

Michael Christ

Post by Michael Christ
Michael Christ

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2018-10-30 12:04:18 UTC

On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 21:34:50 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by default
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 14:27:32 +1100, Michael Christ

It isn't "men," who cause the problems, it is those sick twisted
religiously inculcated excuses for men that cause the problems. No
one blames a non-existent deity for the work of religious ninnies.

None of them are.
They are all doing what you are doing, doing what is right in your own
eyes with a corrupt heart.

How can you say that? After all, you all share the same taste in
KoolAid, and THEY are the MAJORITY - maybe it is you who are wrong.

Post by Michael Christ
Michael Christ

Post by Michael Christ
Michael Christ

Michael Christ

2018-10-30 21:56:58 UTC

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On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 21:34:50 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by default
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 14:27:32 +1100, Michael Christ

It isn't "men," who cause the problems, it is those sick twisted
religiously inculcated excuses for men that cause the problems. No
one blames a non-existent deity for the work of religious ninnies.

None of them are.
They are all doing what you are doing, doing what is right in your own
eyes with a corrupt heart.

How can you say that? After all, you all share the same taste in
KoolAid, and THEY are the MAJORITY - maybe it is you who are wrong.

You are drinking your own Koolaid. The truth is independent of
majority or minority.

Michael Christ

Post by Michael Christ
Michael Christ

Post by Michael Christ
Michael Christ

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2018-10-31 14:59:25 UTC

On Wed, 31 Oct 2018 08:56:58 +1100, Michael Christ

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On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 21:34:50 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by default
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 14:27:32 +1100, Michael Christ

It isn't "men," who cause the problems, it is those sick twisted
religiously inculcated excuses for men that cause the problems. No
one blames a non-existent deity for the work of religious ninnies.

None of them are.
They are all doing what you are doing, doing what is right in your own
eyes with a corrupt heart.

How can you say that? After all, you all share the same taste in
KoolAid, and THEY are the MAJORITY - maybe it is you who are wrong.

You are drinking your own Koolaid. The truth is independent of
majority or minority.

Indeed, truth should be independent of ideology, but what people will
accept as truth seldom is truth, or independent. One only need watch
the shenanigans of D Trump as he lies and spins his way through a life
of wealth and evil repugnant behavior... and his misbegotten spawn
are all to willing to spread the evil and create a dynasty.

aaa

2018-10-30 15:32:25 UTC

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On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 14:27:32 +1100, Michael Christ

It isn't "men," who cause the problems, it is those sick twisted
religiously inculcated excuses for men that cause the problems. No
one blames a non-existent deity for the work of religious ninnies.

No. They only believe God. They haven't known God. It is why they all
believe God differently. When they can know the same God and the same
truth, they will have no reason to fight anymore.

Post by Michael Christ
Michael Christ

--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

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2018-10-30 17:20:30 UTC

Post by default
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 14:27:32 +1100, Michael Christ

It isn't "men," who cause the problems, it is those sick twisted
religiously inculcated excuses for men that cause the problems. No
one blames a non-existent deity for the work of religious ninnies.

No. They only believe God. They haven't known God. It is why they all
believe God differently. When they can know the same God and the same
truth, they will have no reason to fight anymore.

Have you tried selling that idea to the religiously smitten? How's
that working for you?

ALL the Abrahamic religions think that they got it right, and all the
other guys got it wrong. It's is in their charters. Literally carved
in stone in some places...

aaa

2018-10-31 01:04:25 UTC

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On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 14:27:32 +1100, Michael Christ

It isn't "men," who cause the problems, it is those sick twisted
religiously inculcated excuses for men that cause the problems. No
one blames a non-existent deity for the work of religious ninnies.

No. They only believe God. They haven't known God. It is why they all
believe God differently. When they can know the same God and the same
truth, they will have no reason to fight anymore.

Have you tried selling that idea to the religiously smitten? How's
that working for you?

Isn't that just simple fact?

Post by default
ALL the Abrahamic religions think that they got it right, and all the
other guys got it wrong. It's is in their charters. Literally carved
in stone in some places...

That doesn't mean anything. Only the faith in every believer of God counts.

--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

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2018-10-31 15:03:00 UTC

Post by default
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 14:27:32 +1100, Michael Christ

It isn't "men," who cause the problems, it is those sick twisted
religiously inculcated excuses for men that cause the problems. No
one blames a non-existent deity for the work of religious ninnies.

No. They only believe God. They haven't known God. It is why they all
believe God differently. When they can know the same God and the same
truth, they will have no reason to fight anymore.

Have you tried selling that idea to the religiously smitten? How's
that working for you?

Isn't that just simple fact?

Only if you accept some of the good parts of the bible, koran, etc..
Unfortunately all the "holy" books justify evil in the name of their
gods.

Post by default
ALL the Abrahamic religions think that they got it right, and all the
other guys got it wrong. It's is in their charters. Literally carved
in stone in some places...

That doesn't mean anything. Only the faith in every believer of God counts.

So when their faith leads them to blow themselves up, it's all good?

Why does their god want them to do that? Why would any god?

Kevrob

2018-10-31 16:56:00 UTC

Post by default
ALL the Abrahamic religions think that they got it right, and all the
other guys got it wrong. It's is in their charters. Literally carved
in stone in some places...

That doesn't mean anything. Only the faith in every believer of God counts.

But that IS what they have faith in.

There are plenty who would roast you on a spit for
pretending to get messages from their ghod - and
they are sure there's only one of them, and they
have the only perfect rulebook.

---
Kevin R
a.a #2310

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2018-10-30 10:32:13 UTC

Post by Michael Christ
All this terrible stuff that happens in the world is not God, it is men
doing terrible things to other men. They want their own way!

God is irresponsible.

Michael Christ

2018-10-30 10:39:53 UTC

Post by Michael Christ
All this terrible stuff that happens in the world is not God, it is men
doing terrible things to other men. They want their own way!

God is irresponsible.

So you do as He says?

I thought you didn't believe in God??

Michael Christ

Andrew W

2018-10-30 11:52:07 UTC

Post by Michael Christ
All this terrible stuff that happens in the world is not God, it is men
doing terrible things to other men. They want their own way!

God is irresponsible.

So you do as He says?

All we have is what people claim God said. That's all.

Post by Michael Christ
I thought you didn't believe in God??

--
http://members.optusnet.com.au/ajwerner/

Anyone or anything that sets itself up to be worshipped must be considered a
false god.
Anyone who has a master is a slave.

http://www.rumormillnews.com -- The best alternative news site.

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2018-10-30 12:01:49 UTC

On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 22:52:07 +1100, "Andrew W"

Post by Michael Christ
All this terrible stuff that happens in the world is not God, it is men
doing terrible things to other men. They want their own way!

God is irresponsible.

So you do as He says?

All we have is what people claim God said. That's all.

MC has no rebuttal to that statement, but can and will gen-up a Non
Sequitur, that explains it to his satisfaction.

Post by Michael Christ
I thought you didn't believe in God??

Yap Honghor

2018-10-29 08:07:29 UTC

Post by Michael Christ
All this terrible stuff that happens in the world is not God, it is men
doing terrible things to other men. They want their own way!

But you are one of the men, or are you an alien?

Post by Michael Christ
And now yet another shocking shooting, a synagogue shooting in the USA!
Another shooting in an endless list now!! I was watching the news this
morning and I thought to myself, there's another one!

Of course there will be more to come. After all, America's tradition is cowboy. If you don't use a weapon, what is it for??????????????

Post by Michael Christ
How shocking is that??!!

More to come...

Post by Michael Christ
Who has the right to take another person's life, to snuff out another's
right to life??? Have you that right??!! No! Lock them up, sure, but
to take another man's life is only God's right. I'd rather be killed
myself than to take another man's life, no matter what!

If you say that, what about if the shooter says he is carrying our order from a pixie??????? There will be no end. Control is in guns....

Post by Michael Christ
Michael Christ

Michael Christ

2018-10-29 09:43:13 UTC

Post by Michael Christ
All this terrible stuff that happens in the world is not God, it is men
doing terrible things to other men. They want their own way!

But you are one of the men, or are you an alien?

Of course there will be more to come. After all, America's tradition is cowboy. If you don't use a weapon, what is it for??????????????

Post by Michael Christ
How shocking is that??!!

More to come...

If you say that, what about if the shooter says he is carrying our order from a pixie???????

There are millions of crazy religious people claiming to follow God, but
very very few that love Him with all their heart, soul and mind and love
their neighbour as themselves.

Michael Christ

There will be no end. Control is in guns....

Post by Michael Christ
Michael Christ

Yap Honghor

2018-10-29 13:34:38 UTC

Post by Michael Christ
All this terrible stuff that happens in the world is not God, it is men
doing terrible things to other men. They want their own way!

But you are one of the men, or are you an alien?

Of course there will be more to come. After all, America's tradition is cowboy. If you don't use a weapon, what is it for??????????????

Post by Michael Christ
How shocking is that??!!

More to come...

If you say that, what about if the shooter says he is carrying our order from a pixie???????

There are millions of crazy religious people claiming to follow God, but
very very few that love Him with all their heart, soul and mind and love
their neighbour as themselves.

Of course, theist idiots love it imaginative pixie and not their parents who have sacrificed their whole lives....what a bunch of fucking morons!!!!!!!!

Post by Michael Christ
Michael Christ
There will be no end. Control is in guns....

Post by Michael Christ
Michael Christ

Michael Christ

2018-10-29 23:20:20 UTC

Post by Michael Christ
All this terrible stuff that happens in the world is not God, it is men
doing terrible things to other men. They want their own way!

But you are one of the men, or are you an alien?

Of course there will be more to come. After all, America's tradition is cowboy. If you don't use a weapon, what is it for??????????????

Post by Michael Christ
How shocking is that??!!

More to come...

If you say that, what about if the shooter says he is carrying our order from a pixie???????

There are millions of crazy religious people claiming to follow God, but
very very few that love Him with all their heart, soul and mind and love
their neighbour as themselves.

Of course, theist idiots love it imaginative pixie and not their parents who >have sacrificed their whole lives....what a bunch of fucking morons!!!!!!!!

They have conned you into believing their lie that they represent God;
they are smarter than you. And thus they are presented God as evil and
even gone as far as making it seem He doesn't exist.

However, those who love God with all their hearts do not walk in the
ways of evil.

Michael Christ

Post by Michael Christ
Michael Christ
There will be no end. Control is in guns....

Post by Michael Christ
Michael Christ

Lucifer

2018-10-30 03:57:16 UTC

On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 10:20:20 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by Michael Christ
All this terrible stuff that happens in the world is not God, it is men
doing terrible things to other men. They want their own way!

But you are one of the men, or are you an alien?

Of course there will be more to come. After all, America's tradition is cowboy. If you don't use a weapon, what is it for??????????????

Post by Michael Christ
How shocking is that??!!

More to come...

If you say that, what about if the shooter says he is carrying our order from a pixie???????

There are millions of crazy religious people claiming to follow God, but
very very few that love Him with all their heart, soul and mind and love
their neighbour as themselves.

Of course, theist idiots love it imaginative pixie and not their parents who
have sacrificed their whole lives....what a bunch of fucking morons!!!!!!!!

They have conned you into believing their lie that they represent God;
they are smarter than you. And thus they are presented God as evil and
even gone as far as making it seem He doesn't exist.

The bible presents God as evil and stupid.

Post by Michael Christ
However, those who love God with all their hearts do not walk in the
ways of evil.

Unless they try to copy God's ways.

Post by Michael Christ
Michael Christ

Michael Christ

2018-10-30 10:30:38 UTC

Post by Lucifer
On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 10:20:20 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by Michael Christ
All this terrible stuff that happens in the world is not God, it is men
doing terrible things to other men. They want their own way!

But you are one of the men, or are you an alien?

Of course there will be more to come. After all, America's tradition is cowboy. If you don't use a weapon, what is it for??????????????

Post by Michael Christ
How shocking is that??!!

More to come...

If you say that, what about if the shooter says he is carrying our order from a pixie???????

There are millions of crazy religious people claiming to follow God, but
very very few that love Him with all their heart, soul and mind and love
their neighbour as themselves.

Of course, theist idiots love it imaginative pixie and not their parents who
have sacrificed their whole lives....what a bunch of fucking morons!!!!!!!!

They have conned you into believing their lie that they represent God;
they are smarter than you. And thus they are presented God as evil and
even gone as far as making it seem He doesn't exist.

The bible presents God as evil and stupid.

Post by Michael Christ
However, those who love God with all their hearts do not walk in the
ways of evil.

Unless they try to copy God's ways.

Are you just talking to hear the sound of your own voice??

Michael Christ

Lucifer

2018-10-30 12:10:09 UTC

On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 21:30:38 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by Lucifer
On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 10:20:20 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by Michael Christ
All this terrible stuff that happens in the world is not God, it is men
doing terrible things to other men. They want their own way!

But you are one of the men, or are you an alien?

Of course there will be more to come. After all, America's tradition is cowboy. If you don't use a weapon, what is it for??????????????

Post by Michael Christ
How shocking is that??!!

More to come...

If you say that, what about if the shooter says he is carrying our order from a pixie???????

There are millions of crazy religious people claiming to follow God, but
very very few that love Him with all their heart, soul and mind and love
their neighbour as themselves.

Of course, theist idiots love it imaginative pixie and not their parents who
have sacrificed their whole lives....what a bunch of fucking morons!!!!!!!!

They have conned you into believing their lie that they represent God;
they are smarter than you. And thus they are presented God as evil and
even gone as far as making it seem He doesn't exist.

The bible presents God as evil and stupid.

Post by Michael Christ
However, those who love God with all their hearts do not walk in the
ways of evil.

Unless they try to copy God's ways.

Are you just talking to hear the sound of your own voice??

Do you try to copy God's ways of mass murder and genocide?

Post by Michael Christ
Michael Christ

Michael Christ

2018-10-30 21:58:40 UTC

Post by Lucifer
On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 21:30:38 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by Lucifer
On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 10:20:20 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by Michael Christ
All this terrible stuff that happens in the world is not God, it is men
doing terrible things to other men. They want their own way!

But you are one of the men, or are you an alien?

Of course there will be more to come. After all, America's tradition is cowboy. If you don't use a weapon, what is it for??????????????

Post by Michael Christ
How shocking is that??!!

More to come...

If you say that, what about if the shooter says he is carrying our order from a pixie???????

There are millions of crazy religious people claiming to follow God, but
very very few that love Him with all their heart, soul and mind and love
their neighbour as themselves.

Of course, theist idiots love it imaginative pixie and not their parents who
have sacrificed their whole lives....what a bunch of fucking morons!!!!!!!!

They have conned you into believing their lie that they represent God;
they are smarter than you. And thus they are presented God as evil and
even gone as far as making it seem He doesn't exist.

The bible presents God as evil and stupid.

Post by Michael Christ
However, those who love God with all their hearts do not walk in the
ways of evil.

Unless they try to copy God's ways.

Are you just talking to hear the sound of your own voice??

Do you try to copy God's ways of mass murder and genocide?

Mass murder and genocide are the ways of men and the fruit of man's
decisions.

Michael Christ

Kevrob

2018-10-29 14:29:38 UTC

There are millions of crazy religious people claiming to follow God....

You own a mirror, don't you, Nursie?

---
Kevin R
a.a #2310

Michael Christ

2018-10-29 23:56:55 UTC

There are millions of crazy religious people claiming to follow God....

You own a mirror, don't you, Nursie?
---
Kevin R
a.a #2310

Kevin, what is bringing around this nasty non-niceness??!!

I didn't shoot your dog! Have I told you are lie or something??

What appalling behaviour! The contempt!!

Once you start crapping in your pants, suddenly the family in its great
love for you will decide what is best to do with you (the usual
pattern). Then you'll end up in a nursing home and all that pride will
certainly leave you.

What you sow, so shall you reap.

Michael Christ AKA Mike the Nice AKA Saying it nicely in a nice way.

Kevrob

2018-10-30 03:01:59 UTC

There are millions of crazy religious people claiming to follow God....

You own a mirror, don't you, Nursie?

Kevin, what is bringing around this nasty non-niceness??!!
I didn't shoot your dog! Have I told you are lie or something??
What appalling behaviour! The contempt!!

[quote]

The Cat-Herding Rules and Regulations of alt.atheism and Some Information

1 All are welcome in the newsgroup, whether they're atheists or not, as long as they are not trolls.
2 Proselytizing of ANY religion is NOT welcome! (Those guilty of this bad nettiquette will be treated as they deserve!)
3 This newsgroup exists for atheists to discuss anything of interest to them and other atheists, although others who are honestly interested in joining a discussion and are not trolls are welcome. Trolls will be treated as what they are.

[/quote]

http://web.archive.org/web/20160314200548/http://alt-atheism.org/atheism:faq

You are being treated as the troll you are.

Make "nice" all you want. When you proselytize here, you are
off-charter.

---
Kevin R
a.a #2310

Michael Christ

2018-10-30 10:28:39 UTC

There are millions of crazy religious people claiming to follow God....

You own a mirror, don't you, Nursie?

Kevin, what is bringing around this nasty non-niceness??!!
I didn't shoot your dog! Have I told you are lie or something??
What appalling behaviour! The contempt!!

[quote]
The Cat-Herding Rules and Regulations of alt.atheism and Some Information
1 All are welcome in the newsgroup, whether they're atheists or not, as long as they are not trolls.
2 Proselytizing of ANY religion is NOT welcome! (Those guilty of this bad nettiquette will be treated as they deserve!)
3 This newsgroup exists for atheists to discuss anything of interest to them and other atheists, although others who are honestly interested in joining a discussion and are not trolls are welcome. Trolls will be treated as what they are.
[/quote]
http://web.archive.org/web/20160314200548/http://alt-atheism.org/atheism:faq
You are being treated as the troll you are.
Make "nice" all you want. When you proselytize here, you are
off-charter.
---
Kevin R
a.a #2310

Get your own dirt, Kevin.

Michael Christ

Kevrob

2018-10-30 12:19:46 UTC

Post by Michael Christ
Get your own dirt, Kevin.

This is your "ghod owns the universe" nonsense: proselytizing,
and off-charter.

Keep that in one of the religious newsgroups you post to.

---
Kevin R
a.a #2310

Michael Christ

2018-10-30 22:03:01 UTC

Post by Michael Christ
Get your own dirt, Kevin.

This is your "ghod owns the universe" nonsense: proselytizing,
and off-charter.
Keep that in one of the religious newsgroups you post to.
---
Kevin R
a.a #2310

You are not God, Kevin; you are Kevin.

Kevin, you have a niceness rating of 0.5/10. Don't you think you should
start working on that??

Michael Christ AKA Nice Mike

b***@m.nu

2018-10-29 09:27:45 UTC

On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 14:27:32 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by Michael Christ
All this terrible stuff that happens in the world is not God, it is men
doing terrible things to other men. They want their own way!

That is just like saying that if a child of 9 years old murders the
next door neighbor that it is not the fault of the parents, because
they abandoned the child long ago.

You are pretty fucking stupid for a theist, youu know this right??

Michael Christ

2018-10-29 09:49:47 UTC

Post by default
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 14:27:32 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by Michael Christ
All this terrible stuff that happens in the world is not God, it is men
doing terrible things to other men. They want their own way!

That is just like saying that if a child of 9 years old murders the
next door neighbor that it is not the fault of the parents, because
they abandoned the child long ago.
You are pretty fucking stupid for a theist, youu know this right??

You have your own way.

Michael Christ

aaa

2018-10-29 14:28:02 UTC

Post by default
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 14:27:32 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by Michael Christ
All this terrible stuff that happens in the world is not God, it is men
doing terrible things to other men. They want their own way!

That is just like saying that if a child of 9 years old murders the
next door neighbor that it is not the fault of the parents, because
they abandoned the child long ago.
You are pretty fucking stupid for a theist, youu know this right??

False analogy. This is serious adult business. It's not a game of children.

--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

Andrew W

2018-10-29 21:39:08 UTC

Post by default
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 14:27:32 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by Michael Christ
All this terrible stuff that happens in the world is not God, it is men
doing terrible things to other men. They want their own way!

That is just like saying that if a child of 9 years old murders the
next door neighbor that it is not the fault of the parents, because
they abandoned the child long ago.
You are pretty fucking stupid for a theist, youu know this right??

False analogy. This is serious adult business. It's not a game of children.

We are like children next to God. The very idea of all responsibility and
accountability being put on us when God knew that everything was going to go
to hell and innocents would suffer and he did nothing, is crazy. That's a
bad parent.

--
http://members.optusnet.com.au/ajwerner/

Anyone or anything that sets itself up to be worshipped must be considered a
false god.
Anyone who has a master is a slave.

Kevrob

2018-10-29 21:47:26 UTC

Post by default
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 14:27:32 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by Michael Christ
All this terrible stuff that happens in the world is not God, it is men
doing terrible things to other men. They want their own way!

That is just like saying that if a child of 9 years old murders the
next door neighbor that it is not the fault of the parents, because
they abandoned the child long ago.
You are pretty fucking stupid for a theist, youu know this right??

False analogy. This is serious adult business. It's not a game of children.

We are like children next to God.

Yup. Children making up "imaginary friends" and "monsters
under the bed," with most ghod-myths supplying both.

Post by Andrew W
The very idea of all responsibility and accountability being put on
us when God knew that everything was going to go
to hell and innocents would suffer and he did nothing,
is crazy. That's a bad parent.

The Yahooey of the OT would be a psycho child abuser.

Post by Andrew W
http://members.optusnet.com.au/ajwerner/
Anyone or anything that sets itself up to be worshipped must be
considered a false god. Anyone who has a master is a slave.

---
Kevin R
a.a #2310

Michael Christ

2018-10-29 22:57:16 UTC

Post by default
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 14:27:32 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by Michael Christ
All this terrible stuff that happens in the world is not God, it is men
doing terrible things to other men. They want their own way!

That is just like saying that if a child of 9 years old murders the
next door neighbor that it is not the fault of the parents, because
they abandoned the child long ago.
You are pretty fucking stupid for a theist, youu know this right??

False analogy. This is serious adult business. It's not a game of children.

We are like children next to God. The very idea of all responsibility
and accountability being put on us when God knew that everything was
going to go to hell and innocents would suffer and he did nothing, is
crazy. That's a bad parent.

So you don't want any autonomy now??

You want to do what God says now??

Michael Christ

2018-10-29 23:07:59 UTC

Post by default
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 14:27:32 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by Michael Christ
All this terrible stuff that happens in the world is not God, it is men
doing terrible things to other men. They want their own way!

That is just like saying that if a child of 9 years old murders the
next door neighbor that it is not the fault of the parents, because
they abandoned the child long ago.
You are pretty fucking stupid for a theist, youu know this right??

False analogy. This is serious adult business. It's not a game of children.

We are like children next to God. The very idea of all responsibility
and accountability being put on us when God knew that everything was
going to go to hell and innocents would suffer and he did nothing, is
crazy. That's a bad parent.

So you don't want any autonomy now??
You want to do what God says now??
Michael Christ

god says up your bum

Andrew W

2018-10-30 00:17:59 UTC

Post by default
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 14:27:32 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by Michael Christ
All this terrible stuff that happens in the world is not God, it is men
doing terrible things to other men. They want their own way!

That is just like saying that if a child of 9 years old murders the
next door neighbor that it is not the fault of the parents, because
they abandoned the child long ago.
You are pretty fucking stupid for a theist, youu know this right??

False analogy. This is serious adult business. It's not a game of children.

We are like children next to God. The very idea of all responsibility
and accountability being put on us when God knew that everything was
going to go to hell and innocents would suffer and he did nothing, is
crazy. That's a bad parent.

So you don't want any autonomy now??

Yes but with the Christian version of God that's not possible.

Post by Michael Christ
You want to do what God says now??

He hasn't said anything. I haven't heard anything.

Michael Christ

2018-10-30 08:07:42 UTC

Post by default
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 14:27:32 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by Michael Christ
All this terrible stuff that happens in the world is not God, it is men
doing terrible things to other men. They want their own way!

That is just like saying that if a child of 9 years old murders the
next door neighbor that it is not the fault of the parents, because
they abandoned the child long ago.
You are pretty fucking stupid for a theist, youu know this right??

False analogy. This is serious adult business. It's not a game of children.

We are like children next to God. The very idea of all
responsibility and accountability being put on us when God knew that
everything was going to go to hell and innocents would suffer and he
did nothing, is crazy. That's a bad parent.

So you don't want any autonomy now??

Yes but with the Christian version of God that's not possible.

Post by Michael Christ
You want to do what God says now??

He hasn't said anything. I haven't heard anything.

Then what are you complaining about??

Michael Christ

Andrew W

2018-10-30 09:00:40 UTC

Post by default
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 14:27:32 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by Michael Christ
All this terrible stuff that happens in the world is not God, it is men
doing terrible things to other men. They want their own way!

That is just like saying that if a child of 9 years old murders the
next door neighbor that it is not the fault of the parents, because
they abandoned the child long ago.
You are pretty fucking stupid for a theist, youu know this right??

False analogy. This is serious adult business. It's not a game of children.

We are like children next to God. The very idea of all responsibility
and accountability being put on us when God knew that everything was
going to go to hell and innocents would suffer and he did nothing, is
crazy. That's a bad parent.

So you don't want any autonomy now??

Yes but with the Christian version of God that's not possible.

Post by Michael Christ
You want to do what God says now??

He hasn't said anything. I haven't heard anything.

Then what are you complaining about??

The Christian religion that's been falsely teaching otherwise.

Michael Christ

2018-10-30 10:10:32 UTC

Post by default
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 14:27:32 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by Michael Christ
All this terrible stuff that happens in the world is not God, it is men
doing terrible things to other men. They want their own way!

That is just like saying that if a child of 9 years old murders the
next door neighbor that it is not the fault of the parents, because
they abandoned the child long ago.
You are pretty fucking stupid for a theist, youu know this right??

False analogy. This is serious adult business. It's not a game of children.

We are like children next to God. The very idea of all
responsibility and accountability being put on us when God knew
that everything was going to go to hell and innocents would suffer
and he did nothing, is crazy. That's a bad parent.

So you don't want any autonomy now??

Yes but with the Christian version of God that's not possible.

Post by Michael Christ
You want to do what God says now??

He hasn't said anything. I haven't heard anything.

Then what are you complaining about??

The Christian religion that's been falsely teaching otherwise.

So what?? There is a never ending falseness in the world. What are you
gonna do??

There is no God anyway, right?? So what does it matter?

Michael Christ

Andrew W

2018-10-30 10:25:11 UTC

Post by default
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 14:27:32 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by Michael Christ
All this terrible stuff that happens in the world is not God, it is men
doing terrible things to other men. They want their own way!

That is just like saying that if a child of 9 years old murders the
next door neighbor that it is not the fault of the parents, because
they abandoned the child long ago.
You are pretty fucking stupid for a theist, youu know this right??

False analogy. This is serious adult business. It's not a game of children.

We are like children next to God. The very idea of all
responsibility and accountability being put on us when God knew that
everything was going to go to hell and innocents would suffer and he
did nothing, is crazy. That's a bad parent.

So you don't want any autonomy now??

Yes but with the Christian version of God that's not possible.

Post by Michael Christ
You want to do what God says now??

He hasn't said anything. I haven't heard anything.

Then what are you complaining about??

The Christian religion that's been falsely teaching otherwise.

So what?? There is a never ending falseness in the world. What are you
gonna do??
There is no God anyway, right?? So what does it matter?

Life matters. The rest of us have to expose nutters who spread false truths.

Michael Christ

2018-10-30 10:37:32 UTC

Post by default
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 14:27:32 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by Michael Christ
All this terrible stuff that happens in the world is not God, it is men
doing terrible things to other men. They want their own way!

That is just like saying that if a child of 9 years old murders the
next door neighbor that it is not the fault of the parents, because
they abandoned the child long ago.
You are pretty fucking stupid for a theist, youu know this right??

False analogy. This is serious adult business. It's not a game of children.

We are like children next to God. The very idea of all
responsibility and accountability being put on us when God knew
that everything was going to go to hell and innocents would
suffer and he did nothing, is crazy. That's a bad parent.

So you don't want any autonomy now??

Yes but with the Christian version of God that's not possible.

Post by Michael Christ
You want to do what God says now??

He hasn't said anything. I haven't heard anything.

Then what are you complaining about??

The Christian religion that's been falsely teaching otherwise.

So what?? There is a never ending falseness in the world. What are
you gonna do??
There is no God anyway, right?? So what does it matter?

Life matters. The rest of us have to expose nutters who spread false truths.

What for? Everyone is headed for the grave anyway.

Michael Christ

Andrew W

2018-10-30 11:40:43 UTC

Post by default
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 14:27:32 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by Michael Christ
All this terrible stuff that happens in the world is not God, it is men
doing terrible things to other men. They want their own way!

That is just like saying that if a child of 9 years old murders the
next door neighbor that it is not the fault of the parents, because
they abandoned the child long ago.
You are pretty fucking stupid for a theist, youu know this right??

False analogy. This is serious adult business. It's not a game of children.

We are like children next to God. The very idea of all
responsibility and accountability being put on us when God knew
that everything was going to go to hell and innocents would suffer
and he did nothing, is crazy. That's a bad parent.

So you don't want any autonomy now??

Yes but with the Christian version of God that's not possible.

Post by Michael Christ
You want to do what God says now??

He hasn't said anything. I haven't heard anything.

Then what are you complaining about??

The Christian religion that's been falsely teaching otherwise.

So what?? There is a never ending falseness in the world. What are you
gonna do??
There is no God anyway, right?? So what does it matter?

Life matters. The rest of us have to expose nutters who spread false truths.

What for? Everyone is headed for the grave anyway.

Only our physical bodies are headed for the grave. We are eternal souls so
there's no real death.

Michael Christ

2018-10-30 20:40:13 UTC

Post by default
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 14:27:32 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by Michael Christ
All this terrible stuff that happens in the world is not
God, it is men
doing terrible things to other men. They want their own way!

That is just like saying that if a child of 9 years old murders the
next door neighbor that it is not the fault of the parents, because
they abandoned the child long ago.
You are pretty fucking stupid for a theist, youu know this right??

False analogy. This is serious adult business. It's not a game
of children.

We are like children next to God. The very idea of all
responsibility and accountability being put on us when God knew
that everything was going to go to hell and innocents would
suffer and he did nothing, is crazy. That's a bad parent.

So you don't want any autonomy now??

Yes but with the Christian version of God that's not possible.

Post by Michael Christ
You want to do what God says now??

He hasn't said anything. I haven't heard anything.

Then what are you complaining about??

The Christian religion that's been falsely teaching otherwise.

So what?? There is a never ending falseness in the world. What are
you gonna do??
There is no God anyway, right?? So what does it matter?

Life matters. The rest of us have to expose nutters who spread false truths.

What for? Everyone is headed for the grave anyway.

Only our physical bodies are headed for the grave. We are eternal souls
so there's no real death.

I'll agree with that.

So what's your take for your eternal soul?

Michael Christ

Andrew W

2018-10-31 01:48:48 UTC

Post by Andrew W
We are like children next to God. The very idea of all
responsibility and accountability being put on us when God knew
that everything was going to go to hell and innocents would
suffer and he did nothing, is crazy. That's a bad parent.

So you don't want any autonomy now??

Yes but with the Christian version of God that's not possible.

Post by Michael Christ
You want to do what God says now??

He hasn't said anything. I haven't heard anything.

Then what are you complaining about??

The Christian religion that's been falsely teaching otherwise.

So what?? There is a never ending falseness in the world. What are
you gonna do??
There is no God anyway, right?? So what does it matter?

Life matters. The rest of us have to expose nutters who spread false truths.

What for? Everyone is headed for the grave anyway.

Only our physical bodies are headed for the grave. We are eternal souls
so there's no real death.

I'll agree with that.
So what's your take for your eternal soul?

Like everyone else I don't yet know too much about what happens in the
afterlife except that I'll be free to roam the universe after I leave here.

Michael Christ

2018-10-31 10:45:58 UTC

We are like children next to God. The very idea of all
responsibility and accountability being put on us when God
knew that everything was going to go to hell and innocents
would suffer and he did nothing, is crazy. That's a bad parent.

So you don't want any autonomy now??

Yes but with the Christian version of God that's not possible.

Post by Michael Christ
You want to do what God says now??

He hasn't said anything. I haven't heard anything.

Then what are you complaining about??

The Christian religion that's been falsely teaching otherwise.

So what?? There is a never ending falseness in the world. What
are you gonna do??
There is no God anyway, right?? So what does it matter?

Life matters. The rest of us have to expose nutters who spread false truths.

What for? Everyone is headed for the grave anyway.

Only our physical bodies are headed for the grave. We are eternal
souls so there's no real death.

I'll agree with that.
So what's your take for your eternal soul?

Like everyone else I don't yet know too much about what happens in the
afterlife except that I'll be free to roam the universe after I leave here.

Like meet up with the family?

Michael Christ

Yap Honghor

2018-10-31 01:54:02 UTC

Post by default
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 14:27:32 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by Michael Christ
All this terrible stuff that happens in the world is not God, it is men
doing terrible things to other men. They want their own way!

That is just like saying that if a child of 9 years old murders the
next door neighbor that it is not the fault of the parents, because
they abandoned the child long ago.
You are pretty fucking stupid for a theist, youu know this right??

False analogy. This is serious adult business. It's not a game of children.

We are like children next to God. The very idea of all
responsibility and accountability being put on us when God knew that
everything was going to go to hell and innocents would suffer and he
did nothing, is crazy. That's a bad parent.

So you don't want any autonomy now??

Yes but with the Christian version of God that's not possible.

Post by Michael Christ
You want to do what God says now??

He hasn't said anything. I haven't heard anything.

Then what are you complaining about??

Complaining about your useless merchandise ....

Post by Michael Christ
Michael Christ

Yap Honghor

2018-10-30 02:26:01 UTC

Post by default
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 14:27:32 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by Michael Christ
All this terrible stuff that happens in the world is not God, it is men
doing terrible things to other men. They want their own way!

That is just like saying that if a child of 9 years old murders the
next door neighbor that it is not the fault of the parents, because
they abandoned the child long ago.
You are pretty fucking stupid for a theist, youu know this right??

False analogy. This is serious adult business. It's not a game of children.

We are like children next to God. The very idea of all responsibility
and accountability being put on us when God knew that everything was
going to go to hell and innocents would suffer and he did nothing, is
crazy. That's a bad parent.

So you don't want any autonomy now??
You want to do what God says now??

THERE IS NO FUCKING PIXIE NOR CREATOR IN THIS WORLD !!!!!!!!!!!!

Post by Michael Christ
Michael Christ

2018-10-30 02:29:44 UTC

Post by default
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 14:27:32 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by Michael Christ
All this terrible stuff that happens in the world is not God, it is men
doing terrible things to other men. They want their own way!

That is just like saying that if a child of 9 years old murders the
next door neighbor that it is not the fault of the parents, because
they abandoned the child long ago.
You are pretty fucking stupid for a theist, youu know this right??

False analogy. This is serious adult business. It's not a game of children.

We are like children next to God. The very idea of all responsibility
and accountability being put on us when God knew that everything was
going to go to hell and innocents would suffer and he did nothing, is
crazy. That's a bad parent.

So you don't want any autonomy now??
You want to do what God says now??

THERE IS NO FUCKING PIXIE NOR CREATOR IN THIS WORLD !!!!!!!!!!!!

Post by Michael Christ
Michael Christ

then how do you know his name

Lucifer

2018-10-30 03:34:49 UTC

On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 09:57:16 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by default
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 14:27:32 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by Michael Christ
All this terrible stuff that happens in the world is not God, it is men
doing terrible things to other men. They want their own way!

That is just like saying that if a child of 9 years old murders the
next door neighbor that it is not the fault of the parents, because
they abandoned the child long ago.
You are pretty fucking stupid for a theist, youu know this right??

False analogy. This is serious adult business. It's not a game of children.

We are like children next to God. The very idea of all responsibility
and accountability being put on us when God knew that everything was
going to go to hell and innocents would suffer and he did nothing, is
crazy. That's a bad parent.

So you don't want any autonomy now??
You want to do what God says now??

We would like God to use his magical powers for good.

Post by Michael Christ
Michael Christ

Michael Christ

2018-10-30 08:30:07 UTC

Post by Lucifer
On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 09:57:16 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by default
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 14:27:32 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by Michael Christ
All this terrible stuff that happens in the world is not God, it is men
doing terrible things to other men. They want their own way!

That is just like saying that if a child of 9 years old murders the
next door neighbor that it is not the fault of the parents, because
they abandoned the child long ago.
You are pretty fucking stupid for a theist, youu know this right??

False analogy. This is serious adult business. It's not a game of children.

We are like children next to God. The very idea of all responsibility
and accountability being put on us when God knew that everything was
going to go to hell and innocents would suffer and he did nothing, is
crazy. That's a bad parent.

So you don't want any autonomy now??
You want to do what God says now??

We would like God to use his magical powers for good.

Then you need to do as you are told and turn your back on your own ways.

When can we expect that??

Michael Christ

Andrew W

2018-10-30 09:03:43 UTC

Post by Lucifer
On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 09:57:16 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by default
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 14:27:32 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by Michael Christ
All this terrible stuff that happens in the world is not God, it is men
doing terrible things to other men. They want their own way!

That is just like saying that if a child of 9 years old murders the
next door neighbor that it is not the fault of the parents, because
they abandoned the child long ago.
You are pretty fucking stupid for a theist, youu know this right??

False analogy. This is serious adult business. It's not a game of children.

We are like children next to God. The very idea of all responsibility
and accountability being put on us when God knew that everything was
going to go to hell and innocents would suffer and he did nothing, is
crazy. That's a bad parent.

So you don't want any autonomy now??
You want to do what God says now??

We would like God to use his magical powers for good.

Then you need to do as you are told and turn your back on your own ways.

Millions or billions of people do that every day with no effect. People pray
to him every day. Still evil and suffering rules. Where's God?

Michael Christ

2018-10-30 10:12:01 UTC

Post by Lucifer
On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 09:57:16 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by default
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 14:27:32 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by Michael Christ
All this terrible stuff that happens in the world is not God, it is men
doing terrible things to other men. They want their own way!

That is just like saying that if a child of 9 years old murders the
next door neighbor that it is not the fault of the parents, because
they abandoned the child long ago.
You are pretty fucking stupid for a theist, youu know this right??

False analogy. This is serious adult business. It's not a game of children.

We are like children next to God. The very idea of all responsibility
and accountability being put on us when God knew that everything was
going to go to hell and innocents would suffer and he did nothing, is
crazy. That's a bad parent.

So you don't want any autonomy now??
You want to do what God says now??

We would like God to use his magical powers for good.

Then you need to do as you are told and turn your back on your own ways.

Millions or billions of people do that every day with no effect. People
pray to him every day. Still evil and suffering rules. Where's God?

Who are the ones that do as they are told??

Michael Christ

Andrew W

2018-10-30 10:28:32 UTC

Post by Lucifer
On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 09:57:16 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by default
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 14:27:32 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by Michael Christ
All this terrible stuff that happens in the world is not God, it is men
doing terrible things to other men. They want their own way!

That is just like saying that if a child of 9 years old murders the
next door neighbor that it is not the fault of the parents, because
they abandoned the child long ago.
You are pretty fucking stupid for a theist, youu know this right??

False analogy. This is serious adult business. It's not a game of children.

We are like children next to God. The very idea of all
responsibility
and accountability being put on us when God knew that everything was
going to go to hell and innocents would suffer and he did nothing, is
crazy. That's a bad parent.

So you don't want any autonomy now??
You want to do what God says now??

We would like God to use his magical powers for good.

Then you need to do as you are told and turn your back on your own ways.

Millions or billions of people do that every day with no effect. People
pray to him every day. Still evil and suffering rules. Where's God?

Who are the ones that do as they are told??

Many law abiding citizens. But even better is to learn to think for oneself.
That's what we're supposed to do, because who says that what we're told is
always right? Depends on who says it and why.

Michael Christ

2018-10-30 10:38:44 UTC

Post by Lucifer
On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 09:57:16 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by default
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 14:27:32 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by Michael Christ
All this terrible stuff that happens in the world is not God, it is men
doing terrible things to other men. They want their own way!

That is just like saying that if a child of 9 years old murders the
next door neighbor that it is not the fault of the parents, because
they abandoned the child long ago.
You are pretty fucking stupid for a theist, youu know this right??

False analogy. This is serious adult business. It's not a game of children.

We are like children next to God. The very idea of all
responsibility
and accountability being put on us when God knew that everything was
going to go to hell and innocents would suffer and he did nothing, is
crazy. That's a bad parent.

So you don't want any autonomy now??
You want to do what God says now??

We would like God to use his magical powers for good.

Then you need to do as you are told and turn your back on your own ways.

Millions or billions of people do that every day with no effect.
People pray to him every day. Still evil and suffering rules. Where's
God?

Who are the ones that do as they are told??

Many law abiding citizens. But even better is to learn to think for
oneself. That's what we're supposed to do, because who says that what
we're told is always right? Depends on who says it and why.

The only one I know who is right about everything is you.

Michael Christ

Andrew W

2018-10-30 11:42:20 UTC

Post by Lucifer
On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 09:57:16 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by default
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 14:27:32 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by Michael Christ
All this terrible stuff that happens in the world is not God, it is men
doing terrible things to other men. They want their own way!

That is just like saying that if a child of 9 years old murders the
next door neighbor that it is not the fault of the parents, because
they abandoned the child long ago.
You are pretty fucking stupid for a theist, youu know this right??

False analogy. This is serious adult business. It's not a game of children.

We are like children next to God. The very idea of all
responsibility
and accountability being put on us when God knew that everything was
going to go to hell and innocents would suffer and he did nothing, is
crazy. That's a bad parent.

So you don't want any autonomy now??
You want to do what God says now??

We would like God to use his magical powers for good.

Then you need to do as you are told and turn your back on your own ways.

Millions or billions of people do that every day with no effect. People
pray to him every day. Still evil and suffering rules. Where's God?

Who are the ones that do as they are told??

Many law abiding citizens. But even better is to learn to think for
oneself. That's what we're supposed to do, because who says that what
we're told is always right? Depends on who says it and why.

The only one I know who is right about everything is you.

Thanks, but no human is right about everything.

Michael Christ

2018-10-30 20:44:41 UTC

Post by Lucifer
On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 09:57:16 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by default
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 14:27:32 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by Michael Christ
All this terrible stuff that happens in the world is not
God, it is men
doing terrible things to other men. They want their own way!

That is just like saying that if a child of 9 years old murders the
next door neighbor that it is not the fault of the parents, because
they abandoned the child long ago.
You are pretty fucking stupid for a theist, youu know this right??

False analogy. This is serious adult business. It's not a game of
children.

We are like children next to God. The very idea of all responsibility
and accountability being put on us when God knew that
everything was
going to go to hell and innocents would suffer and he did nothing, is
crazy. That's a bad parent.

So you don't want any autonomy now??
You want to do what God says now??

We would like God to use his magical powers for good.

Then you need to do as you are told and turn your back on your own ways.

Millions or billions of people do that every day with no effect.
People pray to him every day. Still evil and suffering rules.
Where's God?

Who are the ones that do as they are told??

Many law abiding citizens. But even better is to learn to think for
oneself. That's what we're supposed to do, because who says that what
we're told is always right? Depends on who says it and why.

The only one I know who is right about everything is you.

Thanks, but no human is right about everything.

Unless they know the will of God and do it.

But, when are you ever wrong??

Michael Christ

Andrew W

2018-10-31 01:56:55 UTC

Post by Lucifer
On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 09:57:16 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by Andrew W
We are like children next to God. The very idea of all responsibility
and accountability being put on us when God knew that everything was
going to go to hell and innocents would suffer and he did nothing, is
crazy. That's a bad parent.

So you don't want any autonomy now??
You want to do what God says now??

We would like God to use his magical powers for good.

Then you need to do as you are told and turn your back on your own ways.

Millions or billions of people do that every day with no effect.
People pray to him every day. Still evil and suffering rules. Where's
God?

Who are the ones that do as they are told??

Many law abiding citizens. But even better is to learn to think for
oneself. That's what we're supposed to do, because who says that what
we're told is always right? Depends on who says it and why.

The only one I know who is right about everything is you.

Thanks, but no human is right about everything.

Unless they know the will of God and do it.

Who knows the true will of God? Look at the thousands of religions all
claiming different things.

Post by Michael Christ
But, when are you ever wrong??

Occasionally. I don't know. No one can prove either way.

Michael Christ

2018-10-31 08:47:16 UTC

Post by Lucifer
On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 09:57:16 +1100, Michael Christ

We are like children next to God. The very idea of all responsibility
and accountability being put on us when God knew that everything was
going to go to hell and innocents would suffer and he did nothing, is
crazy. That's a bad parent.

So you don't want any autonomy now??
You want to do what God says now??

We would like God to use his magical powers for good.

Then you need to do as you are told and turn your back on your own ways.

Millions or billions of people do that every day with no effect.
People pray to him every day. Still evil and suffering rules.
Where's God?

Who are the ones that do as they are told??

Many law abiding citizens. But even better is to learn to think for
oneself. That's what we're supposed to do, because who says that
what we're told is always right? Depends on who says it and why.

The only one I know who is right about everything is you.

Thanks, but no human is right about everything.

Unless they know the will of God and do it.

Who knows the true will of God? Look at the thousands of religions all
claiming different things.

Well, you are just going to have to work it out.

Post by Michael Christ
But, when are you ever wrong??

Occasionally. I don't know. No one can prove either way.

So you are your own God. That's nice.

Michael Christ

Andrew W

2018-10-31 10:11:46 UTC

Post by Michael Christ
Then you need to do as you are told and turn your back on your own ways.

Millions or billions of people do that every day with no effect.
People pray to him every day. Still evil and suffering rules.
Where's God?

Who are the ones that do as they are told??

Many law abiding citizens. But even better is to learn to think for
oneself. That's what we're supposed to do, because who says that what
we're told is always right? Depends on who says it and why.

The only one I know who is right about everything is you.

Thanks, but no human is right about everything.

Unless they know the will of God and do it.

Who knows the true will of God? Look at the thousands of religions all
claiming different things.

Well, you are just going to have to work it out.

As it happens I already know. Our Creator essentially wants the same as
us - to have new experiences and creations to enhance life and joy. Our
Creator is a lot like all good humans.

Post by Michael Christ
But, when are you ever wrong??

Occasionally. I don't know. No one can prove either way.

So you are your own God. That's nice.

God is in us so in a way yes.

Michael Christ

2018-10-31 10:55:45 UTC

Post by Michael Christ
Then you need to do as you are told and turn your back on your own ways.

Millions or billions of people do that every day with no
effect. People pray to him every day. Still evil and suffering
rules. Where's God?

Who are the ones that do as they are told??

Many law abiding citizens. But even better is to learn to think
for oneself. That's what we're supposed to do, because who says
that what we're told is always right? Depends on who says it and
why.

The only one I know who is right about everything is you.

Thanks, but no human is right about everything.

Unless they know the will of God and do it.

Who knows the true will of God? Look at the thousands of religions
all claiming different things.

Well, you are just going to have to work it out.

As it happens I already know. Our Creator essentially wants the same as
us - to have new experiences and creations to enhance life and joy. Our
Creator is a lot like all good humans.

So where did all the bad ones come from??

Michael Christ

Post by Michael Christ
But, when are you ever wrong??

Occasionally. I don't know. No one can prove either way.

So you are your own God. That's nice.

God is in us so in a way yes.

Yap Honghor

2018-10-31 11:17:56 UTC

Post by Michael Christ
Then you need to do as you are told and turn your back on your
own ways.

Millions or billions of people do that every day with no
effect. People pray to him every day. Still evil and suffering
rules. Where's God?

Who are the ones that do as they are told??

Many law abiding citizens. But even better is to learn to think
for oneself. That's what we're supposed to do, because who says
that what we're told is always right? Depends on who says it and
why.

The only one I know who is right about everything is you.

Thanks, but no human is right about everything.

Unless they know the will of God and do it.

Who knows the true will of God? Look at the thousands of religions
all claiming different things.

Well, you are just going to have to work it out.

As it happens I already know. Our Creator essentially wants the same as
us - to have new experiences and creations to enhance life and joy. Our
Creator is a lot like all good humans.

So where did all the bad ones come from??

If there is a pixie to create anything, it would have created everything under the sun, including good and bad human, inclusive of Martians....

Since there is no Martians, there is no pixie, no creator, no nothing with magical power!!!!!!!!!!

Post by Michael Christ
Michael Christ

Post by Michael Christ
But, when are you ever wrong??

Occasionally. I don't know. No one can prove either way.

So you are your own God. That's nice.

God is in us so in a way yes.

Michael Christ

2018-10-31 11:36:25 UTC

Post by Michael Christ
Then you need to do as you are told and turn your back on your own ways.

Millions or billions of people do that every day with no
effect. People pray to him every day. Still evil and suffering
rules. Where's God?

Who are the ones that do as they are told??

Many law abiding citizens. But even better is to learn to think
for oneself. That's what we're supposed to do, because who says
that what we're told is always right? Depends on who says it and
why.

The only one I know who is right about everything is you.

Thanks, but no human is right about everything.

Unless they know the will of God and do it.

Who knows the true will of God? Look at the thousands of religions
all claiming different things.

Well, you are just going to have to work it out.

As it happens I already know. Our Creator essentially wants the same as
us - to have new experiences and creations to enhance life and joy. Our
Creator is a lot like all good humans.

Post by Michael Christ
But, when are you ever wrong??

Occasionally. I don't know. No one can prove either way.

So you are your own God. That's nice.

God is in us so in a way yes.

So you have an alien in you according to your extraterrestrial
beginnings. You need to get on to Sigourney Weaver for advice.

When you leave, rather when you are whisked away, will you ever 'phone
home'?

Michael Christ

Lucifer

2018-10-30 12:04:42 UTC

On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 21:12:01 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by Lucifer
On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 09:57:16 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by default
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 14:27:32 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by Michael Christ
All this terrible stuff that happens in the world is not God, it is men
doing terrible things to other men. They want their own way!

That is just like saying that if a child of 9 years old murders the
next door neighbor that it is not the fault of the parents, because
they abandoned the child long ago.
You are pretty fucking stupid for a theist, youu know this right??

False analogy. This is serious adult business. It's not a game of children.

We are like children next to God. The very idea of all responsibility
and accountability being put on us when God knew that everything was
going to go to hell and innocents would suffer and he did nothing, is
crazy. That's a bad parent.

So you don't want any autonomy now??
You want to do what God says now??

We would like God to use his magical powers for good.

Then you need to do as you are told and turn your back on your own ways.

Millions or billions of people do that every day with no effect. People
pray to him every day. Still evil and suffering rules. Where's God?

Who are the ones that do as they are told??

Why should anyone do as you say?

Post by Michael Christ
Michael Christ

Michael Christ

2018-10-30 20:50:58 UTC

Post by Lucifer
On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 21:12:01 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by Lucifer
On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 09:57:16 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by default
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 14:27:32 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by Michael Christ
All this terrible stuff that happens in the world is not God, it is men
doing terrible things to other men. They want their own way!

That is just like saying that if a child of 9 years old murders the
next door neighbor that it is not the fault of the parents, because
they abandoned the child long ago.
You are pretty fucking stupid for a theist, youu know this right??

False analogy. This is serious adult business. It's not a game of children.

We are like children next to God. The very idea of all responsibility
and accountability being put on us when God knew that everything was
going to go to hell and innocents would suffer and he did nothing, is
crazy. That's a bad parent.

So you don't want any autonomy now??
You want to do what God says now??

We would like God to use his magical powers for good.

Then you need to do as you are told and turn your back on your own ways.

Millions or billions of people do that every day with no effect. People
pray to him every day. Still evil and suffering rules. Where's God?

Who are the ones that do as they are told??

Why should anyone do as you say?

Who are the ones that do as they are told??

If you do what God says, you will do well.

If we do what man says, we will not and have not.

Michael Christ

2018-10-30 20:53:32 UTC

Post by Lucifer
On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 21:12:01 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by Lucifer
On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 09:57:16 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by default
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 14:27:32 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by Michael Christ
All this terrible stuff that happens in the world is not God, it is men
doing terrible things to other men. They want their own way!

That is just like saying that if a child of 9 years old murders the
next door neighbor that it is not the fault of the parents, because
they abandoned the child long ago.
You are pretty fucking stupid for a theist, youu know this right??

False analogy. This is serious adult business. It's not a game of children.

We are like children next to God. The very idea of all responsibility
and accountability being put on us when God knew that everything was
going to go to hell and innocents would suffer and he did nothing, is
crazy. That's a bad parent.

So you don't want any autonomy now??
You want to do what God says now??

We would like God to use his magical powers for good.

Then you need to do as you are told and turn your back on your own ways.

Millions or billions of people do that every day with no effect. People
pray to him every day. Still evil and suffering rules. Where's God?

Who are the ones that do as they are told??

Why should anyone do as you say?

Who are the ones that do as they are told??
If you do what God says, you will do well.
If we do what man says, we will not and have not.
Michael Christ

i just won't do anything then

Michael Christ

2018-10-30 22:28:04 UTC

Post by %

Post by Lucifer
On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 21:12:01 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by Lucifer
On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 09:57:16 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by default
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 14:27:32 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by Michael Christ
All this terrible stuff that happens in the world is not
God, it
is men
doing terrible things to other men. They want their own way!

That is just like saying that if a child of 9 years old murders the
next door neighbor that it is not the fault of the parents, because
they abandoned the child long ago.
You are pretty fucking stupid for a theist, youu know this right??

False analogy. This is serious adult business. It's not a game of
children.

We are like children next to God. The very idea of all responsibility
and accountability being put on us when God knew that
everything was
going to go to hell and innocents would suffer and he did nothing, is
crazy. That's a bad parent.

So you don't want any autonomy now??
You want to do what God says now??

We would like God to use his magical powers for good.

Then you need to do as you are told and turn your back on your own ways.

Millions or billions of people do that every day with no effect. People
pray to him every day. Still evil and suffering rules. Where's God?

Who are the ones that do as they are told??

Why should anyone do as you say?

Who are the ones that do as they are told??
If you do what God says, you will do well.
If we do what man says, we will not and have not.
Michael Christ

i just won't do anything then

Then you have done nothing.

That attitude is precisely why you have done nothing.

And that is why you are where you are.

Michael Christ

Yap Honghor

2018-10-31 01:51:50 UTC

Post by Lucifer
On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 09:57:16 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by default
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 14:27:32 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by Michael Christ
All this terrible stuff that happens in the world is not God, it is men
doing terrible things to other men. They want their own way!

That is just like saying that if a child of 9 years old murders the
next door neighbor that it is not the fault of the parents, because
they abandoned the child long ago.
You are pretty fucking stupid for a theist, youu know this right??

False analogy. This is serious adult business. It's not a game of children.

We are like children next to God. The very idea of all responsibility
and accountability being put on us when God knew that everything was
going to go to hell and innocents would suffer and he did nothing, is
crazy. That's a bad parent.

So you don't want any autonomy now??
You want to do what God says now??

We would like God to use his magical powers for good.

Can't....they have an evil thing, just read their Noah flood story!

Post by Lucifer

Post by Michael Christ
Michael Christ

aaa

2018-10-30 00:52:02 UTC

Post by default
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 14:27:32 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by Michael Christ
All this terrible stuff that happens in the world is not God, it is men
doing terrible things to other men. They want their own way!

That is just like saying that if a child of 9 years old murders the
next door neighbor that it is not the fault of the parents, because
they abandoned the child long ago.
You are pretty fucking stupid for a theist, youu know this right??

False analogy. This is serious adult business. It's not a game of children.

We are like children next to God. The very idea of all responsibility
and accountability being put on us when God knew that everything was
going to go to hell and innocents would suffer and he did nothing, is
crazy. That's a bad parent.

False analogy again. The children of God need to grow up and act like
adults.

--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

Andrew W

2018-10-30 09:07:58 UTC

Post by default
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 14:27:32 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by Michael Christ
All this terrible stuff that happens in the world is not God, it is men
doing terrible things to other men. They want their own way!

That is just like saying that if a child of 9 years old murders the
next door neighbor that it is not the fault of the parents, because
they abandoned the child long ago.
You are pretty fucking stupid for a theist, youu know this right??

False analogy. This is serious adult business. It's not a game of children.

We are like children next to God. The very idea of all responsibility
and accountability being put on us when God knew that everything was
going to go to hell and innocents would suffer and he did nothing, is
crazy. That's a bad parent.

False analogy again. The children of God need to grow up and act like
adults.

The majority of people do. It's only some that don't. But still we don't
know much about this world, plus we are told by Christianity that we are not
sovereign beings, just creations, yet we are blamed and threatened as if we
are sovereign and fully responsible for everything. Christianity makes no
sense. No wonder so many reject it.

aaa

2018-10-30 15:46:31 UTC

Post by default
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 14:27:32 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by Michael Christ
All this terrible stuff that happens in the world is not
God, it is men doing terrible things to other men. They
want their own way!

That is just like saying that if a child of 9 years old
murders the next door neighbor that it is not the fault of
the parents, because they abandoned the child long ago.
You are pretty fucking stupid for a theist, youu know this
right??

False analogy. This is serious adult business. It's not a game of children.

We are like children next to God. The very idea of all
responsibility and accountability being put on us when God knew
that everything was going to go to hell and innocents would
suffer and he did nothing, is crazy. That's a bad parent.

False analogy again. The children of God need to grow up and act
like adults.

The majority of people do. It's only some that don't. But still we
don't know much about this world, plus we are told by Christianity
that we are not sovereign beings, just creations, yet we are blamed
and threatened as if we are sovereign and fully responsible for
everything. Christianity makes no sense. No wonder so many reject
it.

That's because it's just your misunderstanding. To be sovereign from God
is to be separated from God. God is the spirit who provides us with
life. To be separated from God means death and suffering to us. It has
nothing to do with taking responsibility.

--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

Andrew W

2018-10-30 21:31:09 UTC

Post by default
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 14:27:32 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by Michael Christ
All this terrible stuff that happens in the world is not
God, it is men doing terrible things to other men. They
want their own way!

That is just like saying that if a child of 9 years old
murders the next door neighbor that it is not the fault of
the parents, because they abandoned the child long ago.
You are pretty fucking stupid for a theist, youu know this right??

False analogy. This is serious adult business. It's not a game of children.

We are like children next to God. The very idea of all
responsibility and accountability being put on us when God knew
that everything was going to go to hell and innocents would
suffer and he did nothing, is crazy. That's a bad parent.

False analogy again. The children of God need to grow up and act
like adults.

The majority of people do. It's only some that don't. But still we
don't know much about this world, plus we are told by Christianity
that we are not sovereign beings, just creations, yet we are blamed
and threatened as if we are sovereign and fully responsible for
everything. Christianity makes no sense. No wonder so many reject
it.

That's because it's just your misunderstanding. To be sovereign from God is
to be separated from God.

How do you know it's my misunderstanding? Being sovereign doesn't
necessarily mean being separate. What if we are sovereign because we are a
part of Creator?

God is the spirit who provides us with life. To be separated from God means
death and suffering to us. It has nothing to do with taking responsibility.

We cannot truly be separate, because all are actually part of the one. There
is only one intelligent consciousness in the universe and our consciousness
is part of that. Everything is energy and consciousness, even matter is made
up of energy particles called atoms and they have their own consciousness at
a smaller level. It was Christianity that started this separation business.
That is what caused all the division and wars.

aaa

2018-10-31 02:07:00 UTC

Post by default
On Mon, 29 Oct 2018 14:27:32 +1100, Michael Christ

Post by Michael Christ
All this terrible stuff that happens in the world is not
God, it is men doing terrible things to other men. They
want their own way!

That is just like saying that if a child of 9 years old
murders the next door neighbor that it is not the fault of
the parents, because they abandoned the child long ago.
You are pretty fucking stupid for a theist, youu know this right??

False analogy. This is serious adult business. It's not a game of children.

We are like children next to God. The very idea of all
responsibility and accountability being put on us when God knew
that everything was going to go to hell and innocents would
suffer and he did nothing, is crazy. That's a bad parent.

False analogy again. The children of God need to grow up and act
like adults.

The majority of people do. It's only some that don't. But still we
don't know much about this world, plus we are told by Christianity
that we are not sovereign beings, just creations, yet we are blamed
and threatened as if we are sovereign and fully responsible for
everything. Christianity makes no sense. No wonder so many reject
it.

That's because it's just your misunderstanding. To be sovereign from
God is to be separated from God.

How do you know it's my misunderstanding? Being sovereign doesn't
necessarily mean being separate. What if we are sovereign because we are
a part of Creator?

That's not possible because sovereignty only belongs to God. There must
be the absolute obedience and loyalty to God.

Post by aaa
God is the spirit who provides us with life. To be separated from God
means death and suffering to us. It has nothing to do with taking
responsibility.

We cannot truly be separate, because all are actually part of the one.
There is only one intelligent consciousness in the universe and our
consciousness is part of that. Everything is energy and consciousness,
even matter is made up of energy particles called atoms and they have
their own consciousness at a smaller level. It was Christianity that
started this separation business. That is what caused all the division
and wars.

Our consciousness and intelligence are not our own. They belong to God
because they all come from the spirit of God who is living in our heart.
When we don't use our consciousness and intelligence to serve God, we
have sinned against God. Sin is not a Christian invention. Sin is the
teaching of the Bible that explains the human condition.

--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

Andrew W

2018-10-31 04:59:05 UTC

False analogy again. The children of God need to grow up and act
like adults.

The majority of people do. It's only some that don't. But still we
don't know much about this world, plus we are told by Christianity
that we are not sovereign beings, just creations, yet we are blamed
and threatened as if we are sovereign and fully responsible for
everything. Christianity makes no sense. No wonder so many reject
it.

That's because it's just your misunderstanding. To be sovereign from
God is to be separated from God.

How do you know it's my misunderstanding? Being sovereign doesn't
necessarily mean being separate. What if we are sovereign because we are
a part of Creator?

That's not possible because sovereignty only belongs to God. There must be
the absolute obedience and loyalty to God.

That's only according to the old biblical story of 'God' being a jealous
authoritarian male figure. That's very different to Creator source of all
life.

Post by aaa
God is the spirit who provides us with life. To be separated from God
means death and suffering to us. It has nothing to do with taking
responsibility.

We cannot truly be separate, because all are actually part of the one.
There is only one intelligent consciousness in the universe and our
consciousness is part of that. Everything is energy and consciousness,
even matter is made up of energy particles called atoms and they have
their own consciousness at a smaller level. It was Christianity that
started this separation business. That is what caused all the division
and wars.

Our consciousness and intelligence are not our own. They belong to God
because they all come from the spirit of God who is living in our heart.

That's essentially what I said.

When we don't use our consciousness and intelligence to serve God, we have
sinned against God. Sin is not a Christian invention. Sin is the teaching
of the Bible that explains the human condition.

Sin is a Catholic invention (or predecessor religions) designed to impose
guilt on humans to make humans passive and controllable for the ruling
elites.
It's impossible to offend the Creator source because it has no ego.

aaa

2018-10-31 15:04:39 UTC

False analogy again. The children of God need to grow up and act
like adults.

The majority of people do. It's only some that don't. But still we
don't know much about this world, plus we are told by Christianity
that we are not sovereign beings, just creations, yet we are blamed
and threatened as if we are sovereign and fully responsible for
everything. Christianity makes no sense. No wonder so many reject
it.

That's because it's just your misunderstanding. To be sovereign from
God is to be separated from God.

How do you know it's my misunderstanding? Being sovereign doesn't
necessarily mean being separate. What if we are sovereign because we are
a part of Creator?

That's not possible because sovereignty only belongs to God. There
must be the absolute obedience and loyalty to God.

That's only according to the old biblical story of 'God' being a jealous
authoritarian male figure. That's very different to Creator source of
all life.

That's only because sin is involved. There can be no tolerance of sin as
far as God is concerned. It's all because sin keeps people away from God
that will make people suffer and die in misery.

Post by aaa
God is the spirit who provides us with life. To be separated from God
means death and suffering to us. It has nothing to do with taking
responsibility.

We cannot truly be separate, because all are actually part of the one.
There is only one intelligent consciousness in the universe and our
consciousness is part of that. Everything is energy and consciousness,
even matter is made up of energy particles called atoms and they have
their own consciousness at a smaller level. It was Christianity that
started this separation business. That is what caused all the division
and wars.

Our consciousness and intelligence are not our own. They belong to God
because they all come from the spirit of God who is living in our heart.

That's essentially what I said.

Not exactly. You need to acknowledge the authority of God.

Post by aaa
When we don't use our consciousness and intelligence to serve God, we
have sinned against God. Sin is not a Christian invention. Sin is the
teaching of the Bible that explains the human condition.

Sin is a Catholic invention (or predecessor religions) designed to
impose guilt on humans to make humans passive and controllable for the
ruling elites.
It's impossible to offend the Creator source because it has no ego.

It's less about offending the Creator and more about undermining oneself
as life. God is the source of our life. Rejecting God is the same as
virtual suicide. As our heavenly father, it's only natural for God to be
angry at our foolish suicidal behavior.

--
God's spiritual evidence:

Truth, love, wisdom, compassion, knowledge, consciousness, intelligence,
happiness, faith, courage, justice, peace, freedom, and life itself.

Kevrob

2018-10-31 17:07:51 UTC