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US soybean farmers warn Trump trade war with China will cause 'serious damage'
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BurfordTJustice
2018-07-08 17:08:30 UTC
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"Bod" <***@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:***@mid.individual.net...
: The American Soybean Association (ASA) said in a statement that soybean
: farmers "rely heavily" on exports to China, and said that they lobbied
: Trump to reconsider the tariffs.
:
: John Heisdorffer, an Iowa soybean farmer and president of the ASA,
: warned of the impact of the tariffs on farmers.
:
: "Soybeans are the top agriculture export for the United States, and
: China is the top market for purchasing those exports," Heisdorffer said
: in the statement. "The math is simple. You tax soybean exports at
: 25-percent, and you have serious damage to U.S. farmers."
:
:
http://thehill.com/policy/finance/395986-us-soybean-fs-warn-trump-trade-war-with-china-will-cause-serious-damage
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2018-07-08 19:21:51 UTC
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On Sun, 8 Jul 2018 13:08:30 -0400, "BurfordTJustice"
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: The American Soybean Association (ASA) said in a statement that soybean
: farmers "rely heavily" on exports to China, and said that they lobbied
: Trump to reconsider the tariffs.
: John Heisdorffer, an Iowa soybean farmer and president of the ASA,
: warned of the impact of the tariffs on farmers.
: "Soybeans are the top agriculture export for the United States, and
: China is the top market for purchasing those exports," Heisdorffer said
: in the statement. "The math is simple. You tax soybean exports at
: 25-percent, and you have serious damage to U.S. farmers."
http://thehill.com/policy/finance/395986-us-soybean-fs-warn-trump-trade-war-with-china-will-cause-serious-damage
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BurfordTJustice
2018-07-08 20:02:38 UTC
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"Bod" <***@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:***@mid.individual.net...
: On 08/07/2018 19:07, Bob F wrote:
: > On 7/8/2018 10:11 AM, Roy wrote:
: >> On Sunday, July 8, 2018 at 10:52:20 AM UTC-6, Bod wrote:
: >>> The American Soybean Association (ASA) said in a statement that
soybean
: >>> farmers "rely heavily" on exports to China, and said that they lobbied
: >>> Trump to reconsider the tariffs.
: >>>
: >>> John Heisdorffer, an Iowa soybean farmer and president of the ASA,
: >>> warned of the impact of the tariffs on farmers.
: >>>
: >>> "Soybeans are the top agriculture export for the United States, and
: >>> China is the top market for purchasing those exports," Heisdorffer
said
: >>> in the statement. "The math is simple. You tax soybean exports at
: >>> 25-percent, and you have serious damage to U.S. farmers."
: >>>
: >>>
http://thehill.com/policy/finance/395986-us-soybean-farmers-warn-trump-trade-war-with-china-will-cause-serious-damage
: >>>
: >>> --
: >>> Bod
: >>
: >> Trump has no idea of what good government is...just a wrecking ball
: >> approach
: >> to everything he miss-handles. Bloody fool.
: >> =====
: >>
: >
: > There's probably a reason he has declared bankruptcy so many times.
: >
: Indeed.
:
: --
: Bod
BurfordTJustice
2018-07-08 20:03:22 UTC
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"Bod" <***@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:***@mid.individual.net...
: On 08/07/2018 18:24, BurfordTJustice wrote:
: > Fake news....
: >
: >
: > Farm bill..fuckwad.
: >
: >
: >
: >
: >
: >
: > "trader_4" <***@optonline.net> wrote in message
: > news:32147cab-c3c6-4248-afaf-***@googlegroups.com...
: > On Sunday, July 8, 2018 at 12:52:20 PM UTC-4, Bod wrote:
: >> The American Soybean Association (ASA) said in a statement that soybean
: >> farmers "rely heavily" on exports to China, and said that they lobbied
: >> Trump to reconsider the tariffs.
: >>
: >> John Heisdorffer, an Iowa soybean farmer and president of the ASA,
: >> warned of the impact of the tariffs on farmers.
: >>
: >> "Soybeans are the top agriculture export for the United States, and
: >> China is the top market for purchasing those exports," Heisdorffer said
: >> in the statement. "The math is simple. You tax soybean exports at
: >> 25-percent, and you have serious damage to U.S. farmers."
: >>
: >>
http://thehill.com/policy/finance/395986-us-soybean-farmers-warn-trump-trade-war-with-china-will-cause-serious-damage
: >> --
: >> Bod
: >
: > "Trade wars are good and easy to win". As the damage mounts, that might
: > make a great campaign commercial for the Democrats for the election.
: >
: > Also, it won't be long before Trump wants to start handing out govt
money
: > to the farmers to make up for their losses. Farmers, pork producers,
: > processors, exporters, then expand that across all the other industries
: > being targeted. If started it will be the biggest boondoggle
imaginable,
: > trying to decide who got hurt and who qualifies to get what amount.
: >
: >
: >
: This is from the horses mouth:
:
: U.S. SOY RESPONDS TO TARIFF ANNOUNCEMENT
:
: ST. LOUIS (June 18, 2018) - In response to the announcement regarding
: U.S. tariffs on Chinese imports, the American Soybean Association (ASA),
: the U.S. Soybean Export Council (USSEC) and the United Soybean Board
: (USB) release the following statements.
:
: "Nobody is a winner today," says ASA Vice President Davie Stephens, a
: Kentucky soybean grower. "In the midst of a down farm economy and down
: farm prices, this uncertainty has led to a drop of market prices. Adding
: additional export market uncertainty through an expected 25 percent
: retaliatory tariff on U.S. soybeans into China ensures that soy growers
: and the rural communities that depend on them will see the effects of
: this for years to come. As the largest importer of U.S. soybeans, China
: is a vital and robust market we cannot afford to lose."
:
: https://ussec.org/u-s-soy-responds-tariff-announcement/
:
: --
: Bod
BurfordTJustice
2018-07-08 20:08:39 UTC
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"Bod" <***@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:***@mid.individual.net...

1,000 girls raped, beaten and some KILLED in UK's biggest grooming scandal



LABOUR run authorities failed to act in Britain's worst grooming scandal
according to disturbing claims in The Sunday Mirror.

As many as 1,000 children suffered from the abuse in Telford, West Midlands
and girls as young as 11 were taken from their families to be drugged,
beaten and raped by mostly Asian men in an epidemic that is still ongoing.

THREE people were murdered and two others died in tragedies linked to the
scandal.

Despite similar high-profile cases in Rochdale and Rotherham, authorities in
Telford ­repeatedly failed to stamp out a network of abusers.

Social workers KNEW of abuse in the 1990s but police took a decade to launch
a probe.

Council staff viewed abused and trafficked children as "prostitutes" instead
of victims, according to previously unseen files.

Authorities failed to keep details of abusers from Asian communities for
fear of "racism."

Police failed to investigate one recent case five times until an MP
intervened.


The scale of the abuse uncovered in Telford - population 170,000 - is feared
to be the most brutal and long-running of all.

The Rotherham toll was put at 1,500 - but that was in a community of
260,000.

Since 2015, the Telford Constituency has been represented by Tory MP, Lucy
Allan and she has now demanded a public inquiry and said our ­findings were
"extremely serious and shocking".

She said: "There must now be an independent inquiry into child sexual
exploitation in Telford so that our community can have absolute ­confidence
in the authorities."

Specialist child abuse solicitor Dino Nocivelli, of Bolt Burdon Kemp, said:
"These children were treated as sexual commodities by men who inflicted
despicable acts of abuse.

"The survivors deserve an inquiry. They need to know how abuse took place
for so long and why so many perpetrators have never been brought to
justice."

One 14-year-old, groomed and abused after her phone number was sold to
paedophiles, said: "I hated what was happening and my abusers made my skin
crawl but I was told that if I said a word to anyone they'd come for my
little sisters and tell my mum I was a prostitute.

"Night after night, I was forced to have sex with multiple men in disgusting
takeaways and filthy houses.

"I must have been getting the morning after pill from a local clinic at
least twice a week but no one asked any questions.

"I fell pregnant twice and had two abortions. Hours after my second
termination, I was taken by one of my abusers to be raped by more men.

The worst moment came just after my 16th birthday when I was drugged and
gang-raped by five men.

"Days later, the ringleader turned up at my house and told me he'd burn it
down if I breathed a word of what had happened."

Documents which will be passed to the Home Office reveals authorities knew
of the horrors a decade before investigating - and shows how they tried to
hamper the probe.

We presented our findings to Professor Liz Kelly, from the Child and Woman
Abuse Studies Unit at London Metropolitan University.

She helped estimate the number of victims based on figures gathered by our
investigators.

Prof Kelly said: "We are acting as if we didn't know about child sex abuse
rings. We have an unfortunate capacity to choose to forget."

Sheila Taylor, of the NWG Network, worked on the Rotherham Inquiry. She said
the true scale of the Telford problem might never be known because many
victims were unlikely to come forward.

She said: "There is probably a whole cohort of young people that are not
identified.

"We are good at identifying white girls but are less able to ­identify young
men, young people from ethnic minority backgrounds, from travelling
communities, or with learning or other ­disabilities."

A police investigation called ­Operation Chalice identified more than 100
potential victims abused between 2007 and 2009.

Cops also said there could be as many as 200 perpetrators - but just nine
were caged and the case was then closed.

Today our investigation reveals the authorities were told of the abuse
epidemic more than a decade before Chalice.

Our probe - backed by documents obtained under the Freedom of Information
Act - found two predatory paedophiles began targeting girls from a local
children's home in 1981.

One of the abusers earned thousands a night for years trafficking girls
around the country for sex with hundreds of men, according to one victim.

In another case, a 14-year-old was groomed by an 18-year-old Asian man in
1985.

After she had his baby he passed her to friends to have sex with and
allegedly rape her.

The girl, now 47, says she reported her abuse to the council and school but
does not believe action was taken.

She says her doctor said she was mentally ill and should take medication.

The vast majority of those targeted were young white girls.

One report commissioned by local Telford and Wrekin Council in 2013
admitted: "From the late 1990s professionals had concerns about the nature
of some of the child sexual abuse cases presented to them."

But it blamed "understanding and learning at that time" and "existing
procedures".

Two separate investigations were launched at the same time as Operation
Chalice after two victims named dozens more abusers.

The victim in one case - groomed at 13, sold for sex and gang-raped - said
she pulled out of the investigation because she "didn't feel she was being
emotionally supported" by police.

Another victim claims officers discouraged her from pursuing her request for
evidence after she told them she was speaking to the press.
BurfordTJustice
2018-07-08 20:08:47 UTC
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"Bod" <***@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:***@mid.individual.net...

1,000 girls raped, beaten and some KILLED in UK's biggest grooming scandal



LABOUR run authorities failed to act in Britain's worst grooming scandal
according to disturbing claims in The Sunday Mirror.

As many as 1,000 children suffered from the abuse in Telford, West Midlands
and girls as young as 11 were taken from their families to be drugged,
beaten and raped by mostly Asian men in an epidemic that is still ongoing.

THREE people were murdered and two others died in tragedies linked to the
scandal.

Despite similar high-profile cases in Rochdale and Rotherham, authorities in
Telford ­repeatedly failed to stamp out a network of abusers.

Social workers KNEW of abuse in the 1990s but police took a decade to launch
a probe.

Council staff viewed abused and trafficked children as "prostitutes" instead
of victims, according to previously unseen files.

Authorities failed to keep details of abusers from Asian communities for
fear of "racism."

Police failed to investigate one recent case five times until an MP
intervened.


The scale of the abuse uncovered in Telford - population 170,000 - is feared
to be the most brutal and long-running of all.

The Rotherham toll was put at 1,500 - but that was in a community of
260,000.

Since 2015, the Telford Constituency has been represented by Tory MP, Lucy
Allan and she has now demanded a public inquiry and said our ­findings were
"extremely serious and shocking".

She said: "There must now be an independent inquiry into child sexual
exploitation in Telford so that our community can have absolute ­confidence
in the authorities."

Specialist child abuse solicitor Dino Nocivelli, of Bolt Burdon Kemp, said:
"These children were treated as sexual commodities by men who inflicted
despicable acts of abuse.

"The survivors deserve an inquiry. They need to know how abuse took place
for so long and why so many perpetrators have never been brought to
justice."

One 14-year-old, groomed and abused after her phone number was sold to
paedophiles, said: "I hated what was happening and my abusers made my skin
crawl but I was told that if I said a word to anyone they'd come for my
little sisters and tell my mum I was a prostitute.

"Night after night, I was forced to have sex with multiple men in disgusting
takeaways and filthy houses.

"I must have been getting the morning after pill from a local clinic at
least twice a week but no one asked any questions.

"I fell pregnant twice and had two abortions. Hours after my second
termination, I was taken by one of my abusers to be raped by more men.

The worst moment came just after my 16th birthday when I was drugged and
gang-raped by five men.

"Days later, the ringleader turned up at my house and told me he'd burn it
down if I breathed a word of what had happened."

Documents which will be passed to the Home Office reveals authorities knew
of the horrors a decade before investigating - and shows how they tried to
hamper the probe.

We presented our findings to Professor Liz Kelly, from the Child and Woman
Abuse Studies Unit at London Metropolitan University.

She helped estimate the number of victims based on figures gathered by our
investigators.

Prof Kelly said: "We are acting as if we didn't know about child sex abuse
rings. We have an unfortunate capacity to choose to forget."

Sheila Taylor, of the NWG Network, worked on the Rotherham Inquiry. She said
the true scale of the Telford problem might never be known because many
victims were unlikely to come forward.

She said: "There is probably a whole cohort of young people that are not
identified.

"We are good at identifying white girls but are less able to ­identify young
men, young people from ethnic minority backgrounds, from travelling
communities, or with learning or other ­disabilities."

A police investigation called ­Operation Chalice identified more than 100
potential victims abused between 2007 and 2009.

Cops also said there could be as many as 200 perpetrators - but just nine
were caged and the case was then closed.

Today our investigation reveals the authorities were told of the abuse
epidemic more than a decade before Chalice.

Our probe - backed by documents obtained under the Freedom of Information
Act - found two predatory paedophiles began targeting girls from a local
children's home in 1981.

One of the abusers earned thousands a night for years trafficking girls
around the country for sex with hundreds of men, according to one victim.

In another case, a 14-year-old was groomed by an 18-year-old Asian man in
1985.

After she had his baby he passed her to friends to have sex with and
allegedly rape her.

The girl, now 47, says she reported her abuse to the council and school but
does not believe action was taken.

She says her doctor said she was mentally ill and should take medication.

The vast majority of those targeted were young white girls.

One report commissioned by local Telford and Wrekin Council in 2013
admitted: "From the late 1990s professionals had concerns about the nature
of some of the child sexual abuse cases presented to them."

But it blamed "understanding and learning at that time" and "existing
procedures".

Two separate investigations were launched at the same time as Operation
Chalice after two victims named dozens more abusers.

The victim in one case - groomed at 13, sold for sex and gang-raped - said
she pulled out of the investigation because she "didn't feel she was being
emotionally supported" by police.

Another victim claims officers discouraged her from pursuing her request for
evidence after she told them she was speaking to the press.
BurfordTJustice
2018-07-09 19:46:20 UTC
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what a clueless little crybaby...

big cry little midget ass.
http://futures.tradingcharts.com/chart/ZS
Soybeans were in a range of $10 to $10.50 for months, until last month,
when Trump started his trade war. Now they are below $9. That's a
15% reduction. The farmers that didn't vote for him I feel sorry for.
Those that did are getting what they deserve.
Trump is doing you a favor. Soybeans, most of which are genetically
modified and sprayed with toxic chemicals, are really bad for you.
Besides, there is new evidence soy might be linked to man-boobs. Unless
you are trying to get a job at Hooters, you
might want to lay off the soy.
https://www.livestrong.com/article/548574-soy-protein-male-breasts/
Anyway, farmers would be better off converting to organic pasture and
raising grass fed/grass finished beef. Local farmer did that and can't
keep up with demand.
I wish you lefty libtards would get out of the way and let the free market
work. ;-)
Thanks for representing for the trumtards. You can't even grasp that with
the domestic price of soybeans dropping, even more will be used here, not
less. Trump has made it more economical for the food industry to put them in
more products and consumers may pay less for this products.

The comment about libs getting out of the way of free markets crowns the
trumptard title, when it's Trump that is the one actually interfering with
free markets with his trade war.

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