Discussion:
Tim goes Underground
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Recliner
2021-03-30 08:58:35 UTC
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I see Tim is working on a new series to be shown later in the year on
Yesterday. From a tweet this morning of his:

One of the few +ves of commuting on the tube (and filming a TV show called
#SecretsOfTheLondonUnderground) during a lockdown is that recently I’ve
been walking around London’s underground network a lot, and at times,
almost *entirely* by myself.

That led me to an announcement from two weeks ago:
<https://realscreen.com/2021/03/16/uktv-commissions-secrets-of-the-london-underground-from-brown-bob/>
Basil Jet
2021-03-31 08:31:01 UTC
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Post by Recliner
filming a TV show called
#SecretsOfTheLondonUnderground during a lockdown
How is that an essential service?
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Recliner
2021-03-31 08:53:51 UTC
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Post by Basil Jet
Post by Recliner
filming a TV show called
#SecretsOfTheLondonUnderground during a lockdown
How is that an essential service?
It's work, which is allowed. In fact, reporters have been on duty
throughout the pandemic.
Basil Jet
2021-03-31 08:59:56 UTC
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Post by Recliner
Post by Basil Jet
Post by Recliner
filming a TV show called
#SecretsOfTheLondonUnderground during a lockdown
How is that an essential service?
It's work, which is allowed. In fact, reporters have been on duty
throughout the pandemic.
Reporting is an essential service. Making documentaries about the
secrets of The Underground isn't.
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1983 - Mummer - XTC
MB
2021-03-31 09:06:44 UTC
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Post by Basil Jet
Post by Recliner
Post by Basil Jet
Post by Recliner
filming a TV show called
#SecretsOfTheLondonUnderground during a lockdown
How is that an essential service?
It's work, which is allowed. In fact, reporters have been on duty
throughout the pandemic.
Reporting is an essential service. Making documentaries about the
secrets of The Underground isn't.
Lots of radio, TV amd film production has continued through Lockdown.

Must admit that it seems hard to justify yet another film about the
London Underground during Lockdown.
tim...
2021-03-31 10:50:13 UTC
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Post by MB
Post by Recliner
Post by Basil Jet
Post by Recliner
filming a TV show called
#SecretsOfTheLondonUnderground during a lockdown
How is that an essential service?
It's work, which is allowed. In fact, reporters have been on duty
throughout the pandemic.
Reporting is an essential service. Making documentaries about the secrets
of The Underground isn't.
Lots of radio, TV amd film production has continued through Lockdown.
Must admit that it seems hard to justify yet another film about the London
Underground during Lockdown.
I think you mean:

Must admit that it seems hard to justify yet another film about the London
Underground
Blueshirt
2021-03-31 10:57:39 UTC
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Post by MB
Post by MB
Must admit that it seems hard to justify yet another film about the
London Underground during Lockdown.
Must admit that it seems hard to justify yet another film about the
London Underground
I'd watch programmes about the UndergrounD all day long, so no problems
here. I hope there's plenty more! :-)
Trolleybus
2021-04-01 08:34:35 UTC
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Post by MB
Post by MB
Post by Recliner
Post by Basil Jet
Post by Recliner
filming a TV show called
#SecretsOfTheLondonUnderground during a lockdown
How is that an essential service?
It's work, which is allowed. In fact, reporters have been on duty
throughout the pandemic.
Reporting is an essential service. Making documentaries about the secrets
of The Underground isn't.
Lots of radio, TV amd film production has continued through Lockdown.
Must admit that it seems hard to justify yet another film about the London
Underground during Lockdown.
Must admit that it seems hard to justify yet another film about the London
Underground
Not is it's not only Tim but also Siddy Holloway.
Trolleybus
2021-03-31 09:24:04 UTC
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Post by Basil Jet
Post by Recliner
Post by Basil Jet
Post by Recliner
filming a TV show called
#SecretsOfTheLondonUnderground during a lockdown
How is that an essential service?
It's work, which is allowed. In fact, reporters have been on duty
throughout the pandemic.
Reporting is an essential service. Making documentaries about the
secrets of The Underground isn't.
Who said it was? The rule is work from home if you can. Otherwise you should go
to work and observe precautions. You can even hold large, indoor, meetings for
work purposes.
Blueshirt
2021-03-31 10:30:06 UTC
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Post by Basil Jet
Post by Recliner
Post by Basil Jet
Post by Recliner
filming a TV show called
#SecretsOfTheLondonUnderground during a lockdown
How is that an essential service?
It's work, which is allowed. In fact, reporters have been on duty
throughout the pandemic.
Reporting is an essential service. Making documentaries about the
secrets of The Underground isn't.
It might be something that will be interesting to watch on TV though!
(For once)

... even if the 'secrets' aren't actually a secret to anyone here.
tim...
2021-03-31 10:49:16 UTC
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Post by Recliner
Post by Basil Jet
Post by Recliner
filming a TV show called
#SecretsOfTheLondonUnderground during a lockdown
How is that an essential service?
It's work, which is allowed. In fact, reporters have been on duty
throughout the pandemic.
Reporting is an essential service. Making documentaries about the secrets
of The Underground isn't.
There is no requirement that a job of work should be essential before it is
undertaken

The law accepts that commercial life must go on

So it is simply subjected to social distancing rules

and if you can make a socially distance documentary, you are 100% free to do
so. (and the presenter can even have their hair professionally cut before
doing so)
M***@fqjw5g5as2833u.gov.uk
2021-03-31 13:54:41 UTC
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On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 09:59:56 +0100
Post by Basil Jet
Post by Recliner
Post by Basil Jet
Post by Recliner
filming a TV show called
#SecretsOfTheLondonUnderground during a lockdown
How is that an essential service?
It's work, which is allowed. In fact, reporters have been on duty
throughout the pandemic.
Reporting is an essential service.
The sort of reporting which scared the shit out of the gullible with the
covid hysteria should be banned, never mind be essential.
Graeme Wall
2021-03-31 18:05:50 UTC
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On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 09:59:56 +0100
Post by Basil Jet
Post by Recliner
Post by Basil Jet
Post by Recliner
filming a TV show called
#SecretsOfTheLondonUnderground during a lockdown
How is that an essential service?
It's work, which is allowed. In fact, reporters have been on duty
throughout the pandemic.
Reporting is an essential service.
The sort of reporting which scared the shit out of the gullible with the
covid hysteria should be banned, never mind be essential.
Still in denial Neil?
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Graeme Wall
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M***@1k2ici.ac.uk
2021-04-01 10:34:44 UTC
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Post by Graeme Wall
Post by M***@fqjw5g5as2833u.gov.uk
On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 09:59:56 +0100
Post by Basil Jet
Post by Recliner
Post by Basil Jet
Post by Recliner
filming a TV show called
#SecretsOfTheLondonUnderground during a lockdown
How is that an essential service?
It's work, which is allowed. In fact, reporters have been on duty
throughout the pandemic.
Reporting is an essential service.
The sort of reporting which scared the shit out of the gullible with the
covid hysteria should be banned, never mind be essential.
Still in denial Neil?
Yes, thats right. I'm in denial about the sky falling, mass deaths in the
street, plague and pestilence, the 4 horsemen riding over the horizon, the
end of civilisation as we know it.... or maybe not.
Graeme Wall
2021-04-01 17:54:22 UTC
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Post by Graeme Wall
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On Wed, 31 Mar 2021 09:59:56 +0100
Post by Basil Jet
Post by Recliner
Post by Basil Jet
Post by Recliner
filming a TV show called
#SecretsOfTheLondonUnderground during a lockdown
How is that an essential service?
It's work, which is allowed. In fact, reporters have been on duty
throughout the pandemic.
Reporting is an essential service.
The sort of reporting which scared the shit out of the gullible with the
covid hysteria should be banned, never mind be essential.
Still in denial Neil?
Yes, thats right. I'm in denial about the sky falling, mass deaths in the
street, plague and pestilence, the 4 horsemen riding over the horizon, the
end of civilisation as we know it.... or maybe not.
No, you are just a fool.
--
Graeme Wall
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M***@ktdi45hu_frxzo4e.info
2021-04-02 09:22:59 UTC
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On Thu, 1 Apr 2021 18:54:22 +0100
Post by Graeme Wall
Post by M***@1k2ici.ac.uk
Yes, thats right. I'm in denial about the sky falling, mass deaths in the
street, plague and pestilence, the 4 horsemen riding over the horizon, the
end of civilisation as we know it.... or maybe not.
No, you are just a fool.
Go and self isolate behind the sofa for another year grandpa in case the nasty
virus gets you. In the meantime I'll get on with life.
Graeme Wall
2021-04-02 10:28:21 UTC
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Post by M***@ktdi45hu_frxzo4e.info
On Thu, 1 Apr 2021 18:54:22 +0100
Post by Graeme Wall
Post by M***@1k2ici.ac.uk
Yes, thats right. I'm in denial about the sky falling, mass deaths in the
street, plague and pestilence, the 4 horsemen riding over the horizon, the
end of civilisation as we know it.... or maybe not.
No, you are just a fool.
Go and self isolate behind the sofa for another year grandpa in case the nasty
virus gets you. In the meantime I'll get on with life.
Hope your family appreciate you putting them in danger just to prove how
macho you are.
--
Graeme Wall
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m***@round-midnight.org.uk
2021-04-02 10:58:45 UTC
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Post by Graeme Wall
Post by M***@ktdi45hu_frxzo4e.info
On Thu, 1 Apr 2021 18:54:22 +0100
Post by Graeme Wall
Post by M***@1k2ici.ac.uk
Yes, thats right. I'm in denial about the sky falling, mass deaths in the
street, plague and pestilence, the 4 horsemen riding over the horizon, the
end of civilisation as we know it.... or maybe not.
No, you are just a fool.
Go and self isolate behind the sofa for another year grandpa in case the nasty
virus gets you. In the meantime I'll get on with life.
Hope your family appreciate you putting them in danger just to prove how
macho you are.
He's not proving that he's macho. Just an big idiot.
Recliner
2021-04-02 11:21:37 UTC
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Post by Graeme Wall
Post by M***@ktdi45hu_frxzo4e.info
On Thu, 1 Apr 2021 18:54:22 +0100
Post by Graeme Wall
Post by M***@1k2ici.ac.uk
Yes, thats right. I'm in denial about the sky falling, mass deaths in the
street, plague and pestilence, the 4 horsemen riding over the horizon, the
end of civilisation as we know it.... or maybe not.
No, you are just a fool.
Go and self isolate behind the sofa for another year grandpa in case the nasty
virus gets you. In the meantime I'll get on with life.
Hope your family appreciate you putting them in danger just to prove how
macho you are.
He's not proving that he's macho. Just an big idiot.
Neil seems to have multiple personas that he can switch between. Sometimes,
just occasionally, he's a sensible, well-informed character, and on others,
he's deliberately provocative in a talk-radio style.
M***@2ilr.co.uk
2021-04-03 08:26:59 UTC
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Post by Graeme Wall
Post by M***@ktdi45hu_frxzo4e.info
On Thu, 1 Apr 2021 18:54:22 +0100
Post by Graeme Wall
Post by M***@1k2ici.ac.uk
Yes, thats right. I'm in denial about the sky falling, mass deaths in the
street, plague and pestilence, the 4 horsemen riding over the horizon, the
end of civilisation as we know it.... or maybe not.
No, you are just a fool.
Go and self isolate behind the sofa for another year grandpa in case the nasty
virus gets you. In the meantime I'll get on with life.
Hope your family appreciate you putting them in danger just to prove how
macho you are.
He's not proving that he's macho. Just an big idiot.
Nothing to do with being macho. Is my wife being macho too? Some people are
paranoid hysterics and at the first sign of adversity run and hide, others
just accept life can be hazardous and keep calm and carry on.
Graeme Wall
2021-04-03 08:29:38 UTC
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Post by M***@2ilr.co.uk
On Fri, 2 Apr 2021 11:58:45 +0100
Post by m***@round-midnight.org.uk
Post by Graeme Wall
Post by M***@ktdi45hu_frxzo4e.info
On Thu, 1 Apr 2021 18:54:22 +0100
Post by Graeme Wall
Post by M***@1k2ici.ac.uk
Yes, thats right. I'm in denial about the sky falling, mass deaths in the
street, plague and pestilence, the 4 horsemen riding over the horizon, the
end of civilisation as we know it.... or maybe not.
No, you are just a fool.
Go and self isolate behind the sofa for another year grandpa in case the nasty
virus gets you. In the meantime I'll get on with life.
Hope your family appreciate you putting them in danger just to prove how
macho you are.
He's not proving that he's macho. Just an big idiot.
Nothing to do with being macho. Is my wife being macho too? Some people are
paranoid hysterics and at the first sign of adversity run and hide, others
just accept life can be hazardous and keep calm and carry on.
Paranoid hysteric adequately describes you. You panic at the thought of
getting vaccinated.
--
Graeme Wall
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Recliner
2021-04-03 08:43:38 UTC
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On Fri, 2 Apr 2021 11:58:45 +0100
Post by m***@round-midnight.org.uk
Post by Graeme Wall
Post by M***@ktdi45hu_frxzo4e.info
On Thu, 1 Apr 2021 18:54:22 +0100
Post by Graeme Wall
Post by M***@1k2ici.ac.uk
Yes, thats right. I'm in denial about the sky falling, mass deaths in the
street, plague and pestilence, the 4 horsemen riding over the horizon, the
end of civilisation as we know it.... or maybe not.
No, you are just a fool.
Go and self isolate behind the sofa for another year grandpa in case the nasty
virus gets you. In the meantime I'll get on with life.
Hope your family appreciate you putting them in danger just to prove how
macho you are.
He's not proving that he's macho. Just an big idiot.
Nothing to do with being macho. Is my wife being macho too? Some people are
paranoid hysterics and at the first sign of adversity run and hide, others
just accept life can be hazardous and keep calm and carry on.
Paranoid hysteric adequately describes you. You panic at the thought of
getting vaccinated.
Good point — perhaps Neil's as afraid of needles as he is of flying?
M***@0i9inv9w0wpdqmqr.gov.uk
2021-04-03 09:31:06 UTC
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Post by Graeme Wall
Post by M***@2ilr.co.uk
Nothing to do with being macho. Is my wife being macho too? Some people are
paranoid hysterics and at the first sign of adversity run and hide, others
just accept life can be hazardous and keep calm and carry on.
Paranoid hysteric adequately describes you. You panic at the thought of
getting vaccinated.
LOL :) So now you're just having to make stuff up in a desperate attempt
to score points? Oh dear, how sad :) FYI I haven't even had an invitation to
have a jab yet and if I have to have them to go abroad then I will, if not I
won't, simple as that. After a bout of flu one doesn't generally head off down
the GP and get a flu jab.
M***@8y1r1z0mg2bdcms.gov.uk
2021-04-03 08:23:47 UTC
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Post by Graeme Wall
Post by M***@ktdi45hu_frxzo4e.info
On Thu, 1 Apr 2021 18:54:22 +0100
Post by Graeme Wall
Post by M***@1k2ici.ac.uk
Yes, thats right. I'm in denial about the sky falling, mass deaths in the
street, plague and pestilence, the 4 horsemen riding over the horizon, the
end of civilisation as we know it.... or maybe not.
No, you are just a fool.
Go and self isolate behind the sofa for another year grandpa in case the
nasty
Post by M***@ktdi45hu_frxzo4e.info
virus gets you. In the meantime I'll get on with life.
Hope your family appreciate you putting them in danger just to prove how
macho you are.
My family have just had a good laugh at your post :)
Graeme Wall
2021-04-03 08:30:03 UTC
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On Fri, 2 Apr 2021 11:28:21 +0100
Post by Graeme Wall
Post by M***@ktdi45hu_frxzo4e.info
On Thu, 1 Apr 2021 18:54:22 +0100
Post by Graeme Wall
Post by M***@1k2ici.ac.uk
Yes, thats right. I'm in denial about the sky falling, mass deaths in the
street, plague and pestilence, the 4 horsemen riding over the horizon, the
end of civilisation as we know it.... or maybe not.
No, you are just a fool.
Go and self isolate behind the sofa for another year grandpa in case the
nasty
Post by M***@ktdi45hu_frxzo4e.info
virus gets you. In the meantime I'll get on with life.
Hope your family appreciate you putting them in danger just to prove how
macho you are.
My family have just had a good laugh at your post :)
The oldest meme in the book…
--
Graeme Wall
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M***@17_q.tv
2021-04-03 09:32:12 UTC
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Post by Graeme Wall
Post by M***@ktdi45hu_frxzo4e.info
On Thu, 1 Apr 2021 18:54:22 +0100
Post by Graeme Wall
Post by M***@1k2ici.ac.uk
Yes, thats right. I'm in denial about the sky falling, mass deaths in the
street, plague and pestilence, the 4 horsemen riding over the horizon,
the
Post by M***@8y1r1z0mg2bdcms.gov.uk
Post by Graeme Wall
Post by M***@ktdi45hu_frxzo4e.info
Post by Graeme Wall
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end of civilisation as we know it.... or maybe not.
No, you are just a fool.
Go and self isolate behind the sofa for another year grandpa in case the
nasty
Post by M***@ktdi45hu_frxzo4e.info
virus gets you. In the meantime I'll get on with life.
Hope your family appreciate you putting them in danger just to prove how
macho you are.
My family have just had a good laugh at your post :)
The oldest meme in the book

Believe what you like. And I don't think you know what a meme is.
Sam Wilson
2021-04-03 18:21:27 UTC
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Post by Graeme Wall
Post by M***@1k2ici.ac.uk
Yes, thats right. I'm in denial about the sky falling, mass deaths in the
street, plague and pestilence, the 4 horsemen riding over the horizon,
the
Post by M***@8y1r1z0mg2bdcms.gov.uk
Post by Graeme Wall
Post by M***@ktdi45hu_frxzo4e.info
Post by Graeme Wall
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end of civilisation as we know it.... or maybe not.
No, you are just a fool.
Go and self isolate behind the sofa for another year grandpa in case the
nasty
Post by M***@ktdi45hu_frxzo4e.info
virus gets you. In the meantime I'll get on with life.
Hope your family appreciate you putting them in danger just to prove how
macho you are.
My family have just had a good laugh at your post :)
The oldest meme in the book…
Believe what you like. And I don't think you know what a meme is.
<https://imgur.com/gallery/DNeJ7>

Sam
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Anna Noyd-Dryver
2021-04-02 13:42:30 UTC
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Post by Basil Jet
Post by Recliner
filming a TV show called
#SecretsOfTheLondonUnderground during a lockdown
How is that an essential service?
It's work, which is allowed. In fact, reporters have been on duty
throughout the pandemic.
Reporting is an essential service.
The sort of reporting which scared the shit out of the gullible with the
covid hysteria should be banned, never mind be essential.
Still in denial Neil?
Yes, thats right. I'm in denial about the sky falling, mass deaths in the
street, plague and pestilence, the 4 horsemen riding over the horizon, the
end of civilisation as we know it.... or maybe not.
No, you are just a fool.
Actually we already had the four horsemen of the apocalypse.

In January 2020, when some people were repatriated from Wuhan to the UK,
they were then moved from the airport by coach. The security guards were
wearing full hazmat suits; the poor coach drivers in the picture had no
PPE. There were four coaches in many of the pictures; all operated by
Horseman Coaches....

<https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/people-slammed-mocking-coaches-used-21401111>

<https://news.sky.com/video/coronavirus-briton-very-relieved-after-last-minute-dash-to-make-flight-out-of-wuhan-11922885>


Anna Noyd-Dryver
M***@x6ht.gov
2021-04-03 08:28:33 UTC
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In January 2020, when some people were repatriated from Wuhan to the UK,
they were then moved from the airport by coach. The security guards were
wearing full hazmat suits; the poor coach drivers in the picture had no
PPE. There were four coaches in many of the pictures; all operated by
Horseman Coaches....
<https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/people-slammed-mocking-coaches-used-2140
1111>
<https://news.sky.com/video/coronavirus-briton-very-relieved-after-last-minute-
dash-to-make-flight-out-of-wuhan-11922885>
That is quite amusing :)
Anna Noyd-Dryver
2021-03-31 10:49:21 UTC
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Post by Recliner
filming a TV show called
#SecretsOfTheLondonUnderground during a lockdown
How is that an essential service?
It's work which he can't do from home. I don't think there's been a point
at which non-essential *work* was forbidden (otherwise my friends who run a
mail-order wool company would have had to close, for example). Or do you
think all production of new TV programmes should have ceased for a year?

Various very interesting YouTubers have continued making videos within the
rules too (eg Tom Scott and The Tim Traveller) - I'm guessing that they
make all/a considerable amount of their income from their YouTube videos,
therefore it counts as work, it can't be done from home, therefore it's
permitted. Geoff Marshall's 399 (?) bus video recently discussed here falls
into the same category - was that essential?


Anna Noyd-Dryver
Bevan Price
2021-03-31 11:48:40 UTC
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Post by Basil Jet
Post by Recliner
filming a TV show called
#SecretsOfTheLondonUnderground during a lockdown
How is that an essential service?
It's work which he can't do from home. I don't think there's been a point
at which non-essential *work* was forbidden (otherwise my friends who run a
mail-order wool company would have had to close, for example). Or do you
think all production of new TV programmes should have ceased for a year?
Anna Noyd-Dryver
(OT) Well .... I would be happy to see all soaps cease for 50 years. It
might give TV a chance to devise some new, original dramas instead of
bombarding us with endless variations on the same tedious stories......
tim...
2021-03-31 11:56:25 UTC
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Post by Anna Noyd-Dryver
Post by Basil Jet
Post by Recliner
filming a TV show called
#SecretsOfTheLondonUnderground during a lockdown
How is that an essential service?
It's work which he can't do from home. I don't think there's been a point
at which non-essential *work* was forbidden (otherwise my friends who run a
mail-order wool company would have had to close, for example). Or do you
think all production of new TV programmes should have ceased for a year?
Anna Noyd-Dryver
(OT) Well .... I would be happy to see all soaps cease for 50 years. It
might give TV a chance to devise some new, original dramas instead of
bombarding us with endless variations on the same tedious stories......
is your TV missing an OFF button?
Bevan Price
2021-03-31 17:54:07 UTC
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Post by Bevan Price
Post by Anna Noyd-Dryver
Post by Basil Jet
Post by Recliner
filming a TV show called
#SecretsOfTheLondonUnderground during a lockdown
How is that an essential service?
It's work which he can't do from home. I don't think there's been a point
at which non-essential *work* was forbidden (otherwise my friends who run a
mail-order wool company would have had to close, for example). Or do you
think all production of new TV programmes should have ceased for a year?
Anna Noyd-Dryver
(OT) Well .... I would be happy to see all soaps cease for 50 years.
It might give TV a chance to devise some new, original dramas instead
of bombarding us with endless variations on the same tedious
stories......
is your TV missing an OFF button?
No. It also has a channel change option. It is just that I wish there
were more options for original UK drama, instead of endless repetition
of things long past their sell-by dates.

Too many TV executives seem to take the lazy option of "more of the
same" rather than experimenting with "something different".
Anna Noyd-Dryver
2021-03-31 19:33:03 UTC
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filming a TV show called
#SecretsOfTheLondonUnderground during a lockdown
How is that an essential service?
It's work which he can't do from home. I don't think there's been a point
at which non-essential *work* was forbidden (otherwise my friends who run a
mail-order wool company would have had to close, for example). Or do you
think all production of new TV programmes should have ceased for a year?
Anna Noyd-Dryver
(OT) Well .... I would be happy to see all soaps cease for 50 years.
It might give TV a chance to devise some new, original dramas instead
of bombarding us with endless variations on the same tedious
stories......
is your TV missing an OFF button?
No. It also has a channel change option. It is just that I wish there
were more options for original UK drama, instead of endless repetition
of things long past their sell-by dates.
Too many TV executives seem to take the lazy option of "more of the
same" rather than experimenting with "something different".
Netflix has a lot of original drama content, though of course it requires a
subscription.


Anna Noyd-Dryver
Recliner
2021-03-31 19:40:03 UTC
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Post by tim...
Post by Bevan Price
Post by Anna Noyd-Dryver
Post by Basil Jet
Post by Recliner
filming a TV show called
#SecretsOfTheLondonUnderground during a lockdown
How is that an essential service?
It's work which he can't do from home. I don't think there's been a point
at which non-essential *work* was forbidden (otherwise my friends who run a
mail-order wool company would have had to close, for example). Or do you
think all production of new TV programmes should have ceased for a year?
Anna Noyd-Dryver
(OT) Well .... I would be happy to see all soaps cease for 50 years.
It might give TV a chance to devise some new, original dramas instead
of bombarding us with endless variations on the same tedious
stories......
is your TV missing an OFF button?
No. It also has a channel change option. It is just that I wish there
were more options for original UK drama, instead of endless repetition
of things long past their sell-by dates.
Too many TV executives seem to take the lazy option of "more of the
same" rather than experimenting with "something different".
The soap operas get far more viewers than most original dramas. That's why
they don't go away.
Bevan Price
2021-03-31 21:43:35 UTC
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Post by Recliner
Post by Bevan Price
Post by tim...
Post by Bevan Price
Post by Anna Noyd-Dryver
Post by Basil Jet
Post by Recliner
filming a TV show called
#SecretsOfTheLondonUnderground during a lockdown
How is that an essential service?
It's work which he can't do from home. I don't think there's been a point
at which non-essential *work* was forbidden (otherwise my friends who run a
mail-order wool company would have had to close, for example). Or do you
think all production of new TV programmes should have ceased for a year?
Anna Noyd-Dryver
(OT) Well .... I would be happy to see all soaps cease for 50 years.
It might give TV a chance to devise some new, original dramas instead
of bombarding us with endless variations on the same tedious
stories......
is your TV missing an OFF button?
No. It also has a channel change option. It is just that I wish there
were more options for original UK drama, instead of endless repetition
of things long past their sell-by dates.
Too many TV executives seem to take the lazy option of "more of the
same" rather than experimenting with "something different".
The soap operas get far more viewers than most original dramas. That's why
they don't go away.
I find that hard to understand why. Must be a lot of people who like
doing / seeing the same things, time after time, year after year.
Personally I prefer "variability" of my entertainment (for want of a
better description).
Recliner
2021-03-31 22:38:48 UTC
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Post by Recliner
Post by Bevan Price
Post by tim...
Post by Bevan Price
Post by Anna Noyd-Dryver
Post by Basil Jet
Post by Recliner
filming a TV show called
#SecretsOfTheLondonUnderground during a lockdown
How is that an essential service?
It's work which he can't do from home. I don't think there's been a point
at which non-essential *work* was forbidden (otherwise my friends who run a
mail-order wool company would have had to close, for example). Or do you
think all production of new TV programmes should have ceased for a year?
Anna Noyd-Dryver
(OT) Well .... I would be happy to see all soaps cease for 50 years.
It might give TV a chance to devise some new, original dramas instead
of bombarding us with endless variations on the same tedious
stories......
is your TV missing an OFF button?
No. It also has a channel change option. It is just that I wish there
were more options for original UK drama, instead of endless repetition
of things long past their sell-by dates.
Too many TV executives seem to take the lazy option of "more of the
same" rather than experimenting with "something different".
The soap operas get far more viewers than most original dramas. That's why
they don't go away.
I find that hard to understand why. Must be a lot of people who like
doing / seeing the same things, time after time, year after year.
Personally I prefer "variability" of my entertainment (for want of a
better description).
Like you, I've never watched them, but assume the fans find them some sort
of comfort blanket. I wonder, do characters in the soaps currently take all
the Covid precautions? Are the pubs closed, everyone wears masks, and
stays 2m apart?

I must admit that I enjoyed Heatbeat and The Bill, which weren't soaps, but
did get a bit soapy at times. The Bill, in particular, was sometimes run by
soap runners, who brought in ridiculous story lines, which I gather came
straight from the soaps.
MB
2021-04-01 08:13:33 UTC
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Post by Recliner
Like you, I've never watched them, but assume the fans find them some sort
of comfort blanket. I wonder, do characters in the soaps currently take all
the Covid precautions? Are the pubs closed, everyone wears masks, and
stays 2m apart?
There have been quite a number of articles on how they have managed to
record soap operas.

One technique is to use actors'partners for scenes needing close
contact, like "snogging". One recent article said that one programme
was having a problem so one actor rang his girl friend, who had done
some acting, she was taken on as an extra and substituted for the real
actress during the close-ups.

Always amuses when people will proudly say they do not watch soaps then
say they listen to The Archers!
Recliner
2021-04-01 08:37:26 UTC
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Post by MB
Post by Recliner
Like you, I've never watched them, but assume the fans find them some sort
of comfort blanket. I wonder, do characters in the soaps currently take all
the Covid precautions? Are the pubs closed, everyone wears masks, and
stays 2m apart?
There have been quite a number of articles on how they have managed to
record soap operas.
One technique is to use actors'partners for scenes needing close
contact, like "snogging". One recent article said that one programme
was having a problem so one actor rang his girl friend, who had done
some acting, she was taken on as an extra and substituted for the real
actress during the close-ups.
I wasn't referring to Covid precautions on the shoot. I was asking about
whether the supposedly contemporary story lines include shut pubs, no
mixing indoors, staying 2m apart outdoors, and wearing masks?
Anna Noyd-Dryver
2021-04-01 08:58:08 UTC
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Post by Recliner
Post by MB
Post by Recliner
Like you, I've never watched them, but assume the fans find them some sort
of comfort blanket. I wonder, do characters in the soaps currently take all
the Covid precautions? Are the pubs closed, everyone wears masks, and
stays 2m apart?
There have been quite a number of articles on how they have managed to
record soap operas.
One technique is to use actors'partners for scenes needing close
contact, like "snogging". One recent article said that one programme
was having a problem so one actor rang his girl friend, who had done
some acting, she was taken on as an extra and substituted for the real
actress during the close-ups.
I wasn't referring to Covid precautions on the shoot. I was asking about
whether the supposedly contemporary story lines include shut pubs, no
mixing indoors, staying 2m apart outdoors, and wearing masks?
Part of the problem with that is that scenes are filmed (or in The Archers
case, recorded) weeks or months in advance [1]. I don't know what the TV
soaps did, but TA (initially at first, anyway - I haven't followed later
developments) decided they'd be a fictional world without Covid - not least
because they'd need to re-record months of material just as it became
significantly more difficult to do so.

[1] TA will occasionally re-record one scene at short notice to mention
significant current events, but it wasn't considered practical to do that
for the entire output at 3 days notice.


Anna Noyd-Dryver
Marland
2021-04-01 10:26:01 UTC
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Post by Recliner
I wasn't referring to Covid precautions on the shoot. I was asking about
whether the supposedly contemporary story lines include shut pubs, no
mixing indoors, staying 2m apart outdoors, and wearing masks?
Part of the problem with that is that scenes are filmed (or in The Archers
case, recorded) weeks or months in advance [1]. I don't know what the TV
soaps did, but TA (initially at first, anyway - I haven't followed later
developments) decided they'd be a fictional world without Covid - not least
because they'd need to re-record months of material just as it became
significantly more difficult to do so.
[1] TA will occasionally re-record one scene at short notice to mention
significant current events, but it wasn't considered practical to do that
for the entire output at 3 days notice.
Anna Noyd-Dryver
I don’t know if it is a good or bad thing that I haven’t a clue what TA
stands for in this context,
I assume the Territorial Army isn’t doing one of those “look at as work”
various Police Forces
have agreed to do which know fill the hours on some minor channels.
Like we all know by now how WW2 turned out no matter how many times the
newsreels are rehashed
and colorized watching Policeman in High powered patrol cars chasing yoofs
in old Corsas down alleys has got a bit repetitive . Now if they were
allowed to shoot the little oiks it might get more interesting.

GH
Anna Noyd-Dryver
2021-04-01 21:10:16 UTC
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Post by Anna Noyd-Dryver
Post by Recliner
I wasn't referring to Covid precautions on the shoot. I was asking about
whether the supposedly contemporary story lines include shut pubs, no
mixing indoors, staying 2m apart outdoors, and wearing masks?
Part of the problem with that is that scenes are filmed (or in The Archers
case, recorded) weeks or months in advance [1]. I don't know what the TV
soaps did, but TA (initially at first, anyway - I haven't followed later
developments) decided they'd be a fictional world without Covid - not least
because they'd need to re-record months of material just as it became
significantly more difficult to do so.
[1] TA will occasionally re-record one scene at short notice to mention
significant current events, but it wasn't considered practical to do that
for the entire output at 3 days notice.
I don’t know if it is a good or bad thing that I haven’t a clue what TA
stands for in this context,
I assume the Territorial Army isn’t doing one of those “look at as work”
various Police Forces
have
I did write "The Archers" in full the first time I mentioned it. I thought
it was reasonably obvious that I was continuing to talk about the same
thing...


Anna Noyd-Dryver
Marland
2021-04-02 00:20:59 UTC
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Post by Marland
Post by Anna Noyd-Dryver
Post by Recliner
I wasn't referring to Covid precautions on the shoot. I was asking about
whether the supposedly contemporary story lines include shut pubs, no
mixing indoors, staying 2m apart outdoors, and wearing masks?
Part of the problem with that is that scenes are filmed (or in The Archers
case, recorded) weeks or months in advance [1]. I don't know what the TV
soaps did, but TA (initially at first, anyway - I haven't followed later
developments) decided they'd be a fictional world without Covid - not least
because they'd need to re-record months of material just as it became
significantly more difficult to do so.
[1] TA will occasionally re-record one scene at short notice to mention
significant current events, but it wasn't considered practical to do that
for the entire output at 3 days notice.
I don’t know if it is a good or bad thing that I haven’t a clue what TA
stands for in this context,
I assume the Territorial Army isn’t doing one of those “look at as work”
various Police Forces
have
I did write "The Archers" in full the first time I mentioned it. I thought
it was reasonably obvious that I was continuing to talk about the same
thing...
Anna Noyd-Dryver
Fair enough, my mind got directed to wondering what TV production the
initials stood for
and missed the obvious.

GH
Roland Perry
2021-04-01 12:17:56 UTC
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Post by Recliner
Post by MB
Post by Recliner
Like you, I've never watched them, but assume the fans find them some sort
of comfort blanket. I wonder, do characters in the soaps currently take all
the Covid precautions? Are the pubs closed, everyone wears masks, and
stays 2m apart?
There have been quite a number of articles on how they have managed to
record soap operas.
One technique is to use actors'partners for scenes needing close
contact, like "snogging". One recent article said that one programme
was having a problem so one actor rang his girl friend, who had done
some acting, she was taken on as an extra and substituted for the real
actress during the close-ups.
I wasn't referring to Covid precautions on the shoot. I was asking about
whether the supposedly contemporary story lines include shut pubs, no
mixing indoors, staying 2m apart outdoors, and wearing masks?
Part of the problem with that is that scenes are filmed (or in The Archers
case, recorded) weeks or months in advance [1]. I don't know what the TV
soaps did, but TA (initially at first, anyway - I haven't followed later
developments) decided they'd be a fictional world without Covid - not least
because they'd need to re-record months of material just as it became
significantly more difficult to do so.
The only one I've seen (and it's not from a very wide selection) is
Casualty [I rate as a soap rather than a drama] and that seems to
embrace COVID, but as medically themed you might expect them to make an
extra effort.

The same is true of USA-based hospital soaps vs others.
Post by Anna Noyd-Dryver
[1] TA will occasionally re-record one scene at short notice to mention
significant current events, but it wasn't considered practical to do that
for the entire output at 3 days notice.
Anna Noyd-Dryver
--
Roland Perry
Recliner
2021-04-01 16:09:51 UTC
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Post by Anna Noyd-Dryver
Post by Recliner
Post by MB
Post by Recliner
Like you, I've never watched them, but assume the fans find them some sort
of comfort blanket. I wonder, do characters in the soaps currently take all
the Covid precautions? Are the pubs closed, everyone wears masks, and
stays 2m apart?
There have been quite a number of articles on how they have managed to
record soap operas.
One technique is to use actors'partners for scenes needing close
contact, like "snogging". One recent article said that one programme
was having a problem so one actor rang his girl friend, who had done
some acting, she was taken on as an extra and substituted for the real
actress during the close-ups.
I wasn't referring to Covid precautions on the shoot. I was asking about
whether the supposedly contemporary story lines include shut pubs, no
mixing indoors, staying 2m apart outdoors, and wearing masks?
Part of the problem with that is that scenes are filmed (or in The Archers
case, recorded) weeks or months in advance [1]. I don't know what the TV
soaps did, but TA (initially at first, anyway - I haven't followed later
developments) decided they'd be a fictional world without Covid - not least
because they'd need to re-record months of material just as it became
significantly more difficult to do so.
The only one I've seen (and it's not from a very wide selection) is
Casualty [I rate as a soap rather than a drama] and that seems to
embrace COVID, but as medically themed you might expect them to make an
extra effort.
The same is true of USA-based hospital soaps vs others.
I suppose it also presents lots of story line opportunities they couldn't
ignore.
Anna Noyd-Dryver
2021-04-01 08:58:09 UTC
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Post by MB
Post by Recliner
Like you, I've never watched them, but assume the fans find them some sort
of comfort blanket. I wonder, do characters in the soaps currently take all
the Covid precautions? Are the pubs closed, everyone wears masks, and
stays 2m apart?
There have been quite a number of articles on how they have managed to
record soap operas.
One technique is to use actors'partners for scenes needing close
contact, like "snogging". One recent article said that one programme
was having a problem so one actor rang his girl friend, who had done
some acting, she was taken on as an extra and substituted for the real
actress during the close-ups.
Kylie Minogue recorded an online-only concert which has been livestreamed
twice so far; she, the backing singers, the dancers and the crew are all
socially-distanced on the set [1] - the exception [2] being those who are
in a bubble together, either in a relationship or more likely living
together in a shared house.

[1] The lack of an audience and the view being only through cameras
apparently allowed all sorts of interesting things which they couldn't
usually have done on a stage

[2] This was stated either at the beginning of the programme, or in an
associated 'making of' video, OTTOMH I can't remember which.


Anna Noyd-Dryver
m***@round-midnight.org.uk
2021-04-01 10:11:58 UTC
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Post by Anna Noyd-Dryver
Post by MB
Post by Recliner
Like you, I've never watched them, but assume the fans find them some sort
of comfort blanket. I wonder, do characters in the soaps currently take all
the Covid precautions? Are the pubs closed, everyone wears masks, and
stays 2m apart?
There have been quite a number of articles on how they have managed to
record soap operas.
One technique is to use actors'partners for scenes needing close
contact, like "snogging". One recent article said that one programme
was having a problem so one actor rang his girl friend, who had done
some acting, she was taken on as an extra and substituted for the real
actress during the close-ups.
Kylie Minogue recorded an online-only concert which has been livestreamed
twice so far; she, the backing singers, the dancers and the crew are all
socially-distanced on the set [1] - the exception [2] being those who are
in a bubble together, either in a relationship or more likely living
together in a shared house.
[1] The lack of an audience and the view being only through cameras
apparently allowed all sorts of interesting things which they couldn't
usually have done on a stage
[2] This was stated either at the beginning of the programme, or in an
associated 'making of' video, OTTOMH I can't remember which.
Anna Noyd-Dryver
Online concerts have been the one good thing about the crisis and I see
some the artists I missed last year almost weekly. Sadly some artists I
missed will never perform again.
tim...
2021-04-01 11:37:27 UTC
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Post by Anna Noyd-Dryver
Post by MB
Post by Recliner
Like you, I've never watched them, but assume the fans find them some sort
of comfort blanket. I wonder, do characters in the soaps currently take all
the Covid precautions? Are the pubs closed, everyone wears masks, and
stays 2m apart?
There have been quite a number of articles on how they have managed to
record soap operas.
One technique is to use actors'partners for scenes needing close
contact, like "snogging". One recent article said that one programme
was having a problem so one actor rang his girl friend, who had done
some acting, she was taken on as an extra and substituted for the real
actress during the close-ups.
Kylie Minogue recorded an online-only concert which has been livestreamed
twice so far; she, the backing singers, the dancers and the crew are all
socially-distanced on the set [1] - the exception [2] being those who are
in a bubble together, either in a relationship or more likely living
together in a shared house.
didn't someone do an online concert where all the participants were each in
their own individual studio?
Marland
2021-04-01 10:11:52 UTC
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Post by MB
Post by Recliner
Like you, I've never watched them, but assume the fans find them some sort
of comfort blanket. I wonder, do characters in the soaps currently take all
the Covid precautions? Are the pubs closed, everyone wears masks, and
stays 2m apart?
There have been quite a number of articles on how they have managed to
record soap operas.
One technique is to use actors'partners for scenes needing close
contact, like "snogging". One recent article said that one programme
was having a problem so one actor rang his girl friend, who had done
some acting, she was taken on as an extra and substituted for the real
actress during the close-ups.
I wonder if arrangements with Equity have been relaxed or some had to join,
they used to be quite
strict at one time .

My one and only acting scene got around that as it was for a Brazilian
production company and I found myself as part of a burial at sea party
while we acted as a prop for an Italian emigrant ship to Brazil.
About 32 mins in .


The production was I suppose what we call a docusoap and had huge audiences
in South America ,
the lead actress was a lovely person , could speak four languages and no
diva like qualities at all.
She was equally happy prop building knocking bits of wood together with a
hammer which was another example of the relaxed attitude of the Brazilian
production crew.
She took a shine to a younger colleague and invited him to the ranch she
owned in Brazil where she bred horses, silly sod got cold feet and didn’t
go.

Graeme may be amused we had to remind an operator of a camera on a jib that
even no smoke was coming out of the funnel at that particular moment it
would not do it any good holding it above it being cooked .


GH
Graeme Wall
2021-04-01 17:49:51 UTC
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Post by Marland
Post by MB
Post by Recliner
Like you, I've never watched them, but assume the fans find them some sort
of comfort blanket. I wonder, do characters in the soaps currently take all
the Covid precautions? Are the pubs closed, everyone wears masks, and
stays 2m apart?
There have been quite a number of articles on how they have managed to
record soap operas.
One technique is to use actors'partners for scenes needing close
contact, like "snogging". One recent article said that one programme
was having a problem so one actor rang his girl friend, who had done
some acting, she was taken on as an extra and substituted for the real
actress during the close-ups.
I wonder if arrangements with Equity have been relaxed or some had to join,
they used to be quite
strict at one time .
My one and only acting scene got around that as it was for a Brazilian
production company and I found myself as part of a burial at sea party
while we acted as a prop for an Italian emigrant ship to Brazil.
About 32 mins in .
http://youtu.be/VHupZR-GurE
The production was I suppose what we call a docusoap and had huge audiences
in South America ,
the lead actress was a lovely person , could speak four languages and no
diva like qualities at all.
She was equally happy prop building knocking bits of wood together with a
hammer which was another example of the relaxed attitude of the Brazilian
production crew.
She took a shine to a younger colleague and invited him to the ranch she
owned in Brazil where she bred horses, silly sod got cold feet and didn’t
go.
Graeme may be amused we had to remind an operator of a camera on a jib that
even no smoke was coming out of the funnel at that particular moment it
would not do it any good holding it above it being cooked .
:-)
--
Graeme Wall
This account not read.
Recliner
2021-04-01 20:47:45 UTC
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Post by Marland
Post by MB
Post by Recliner
Like you, I've never watched them, but assume the fans find them some sort
of comfort blanket. I wonder, do characters in the soaps currently take all
the Covid precautions? Are the pubs closed, everyone wears masks, and
stays 2m apart?
There have been quite a number of articles on how they have managed to
record soap operas.
One technique is to use actors'partners for scenes needing close
contact, like "snogging". One recent article said that one programme
was having a problem so one actor rang his girl friend, who had done
some acting, she was taken on as an extra and substituted for the real
actress during the close-ups.
I wonder if arrangements with Equity have been relaxed or some had to join,
they used to be quite strict at one time.
At what point are Equity cards required? Presumably a non-speaking extra
doesn't need one, even if they have to go through some simple motions? How
much speech do they need to officially become actors who need to be union
members? Or is it a question of how much they're paid?
tim...
2021-04-01 07:43:50 UTC
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Post by Bevan Price
Post by tim...
Post by Bevan Price
Post by Anna Noyd-Dryver
Post by Basil Jet
Post by Recliner
filming a TV show called
#SecretsOfTheLondonUnderground during a lockdown
How is that an essential service?
It's work which he can't do from home. I don't think there's been a point
at which non-essential *work* was forbidden (otherwise my friends who run a
mail-order wool company would have had to close, for example). Or do you
think all production of new TV programmes should have ceased for a year?
Anna Noyd-Dryver
(OT) Well .... I would be happy to see all soaps cease for 50 years.
It might give TV a chance to devise some new, original dramas instead
of bombarding us with endless variations on the same tedious
stories......
is your TV missing an OFF button?
No. It also has a channel change option. It is just that I wish there
were more options for original UK drama, instead of endless repetition
of things long past their sell-by dates.
Too many TV executives seem to take the lazy option of "more of the
same" rather than experimenting with "something different".
The soap operas get far more viewers than most original dramas. That's why
they don't go away.
I find that hard to understand why. Must be a lot of people who like doing
/ seeing the same things, time after time, year after year. Personally I
prefer "variability" of my entertainment (for want of a better
description).
One of the things which I found surprising is, that if you look at the
ratings for rerun channels

you will find that reruns of reality-crap consistently out score, by quite
some margin, reruns of drama (all types) and documentary

I don't get it, but it's what the masses want
m***@round-midnight.org.uk
2021-04-01 08:25:19 UTC
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Post by Bevan Price
Post by tim...
Post by Bevan Price
Post by Anna Noyd-Dryver
Post by Basil Jet
Post by Recliner
filming a TV show called
#SecretsOfTheLondonUnderground during a lockdown
How is that an essential service?
It's work which he can't do from home. I don't think there's been a point
at which non-essential *work* was forbidden (otherwise my friends
who
run a
mail-order wool company would have had to close, for example). Or do you
think all production of new TV programmes should have ceased for a year?
Anna Noyd-Dryver
(OT) Well .... I would be happy to see all soaps cease for 50 years.
It might give TV a chance to devise some new, original dramas instead
of bombarding us with endless variations on the same tedious
stories......
is your TV missing an OFF button?
No. It also has a channel change option. It is just that I wish there
were more options for original UK drama, instead of endless repetition
of things long past their sell-by dates.
Too many TV executives seem to take the lazy option of "more of the
same" rather than experimenting with "something different".
The soap operas get far more viewers than most original dramas. That's why
they don't go away.
I find that hard to understand why. Must be a lot of people who like
doing / seeing the same things, time after time, year after year.
Personally I prefer "variability" of my entertainment (for want of a
better description).
One of the things which I found surprising is, that if you look at the
ratings for rerun channels
you will find that reruns of reality-crap consistently out score, by
quite some margin, reruns of drama (all types) and documentary
I don't get it, but it's what the masses want
Even more surprising are the figures for Talking Pictures. The most
recent I can find is 3.5 million weekly views with a wide age range
which suggest to me the main channels are out of touch with the audience.
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2021-04-01 11:31:56 UTC
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filming a TV show called
#SecretsOfTheLondonUnderground during a lockdown
How is that an essential service?
It's work which he can't do from home. I don't think there's been a point
at which non-essential *work* was forbidden (otherwise my friends
who
run a
mail-order wool company would have had to close, for example). Or do you
think all production of new TV programmes should have ceased for a year?
Anna Noyd-Dryver
(OT) Well .... I would be happy to see all soaps cease for 50 years.
It might give TV a chance to devise some new, original dramas instead
of bombarding us with endless variations on the same tedious
stories......
is your TV missing an OFF button?
No. It also has a channel change option. It is just that I wish there
were more options for original UK drama, instead of endless repetition
of things long past their sell-by dates.
Too many TV executives seem to take the lazy option of "more of the
same" rather than experimenting with "something different".
The soap operas get far more viewers than most original dramas. That's why
they don't go away.
I find that hard to understand why. Must be a lot of people who like
doing / seeing the same things, time after time, year after year.
Personally I prefer "variability" of my entertainment (for want of a
better description).
One of the things which I found surprising is, that if you look at the
ratings for rerun channels
you will find that reruns of reality-crap consistently out score, by
quite some margin, reruns of drama (all types) and documentary
I don't get it, but it's what the masses want
Even more surprising are the figures for Talking Pictures. The most
recent I can find is 3.5 million weekly views with a wide age range which
suggest to me the main channels are out of touch with the audience.
Once you get above a certain point, reach is not a particularly useful
figure, as you can never get beyond 100%, but you can get continually
increasing length of time per viewer

BBC1 and BBC2 have very similar figures for reach, but BBC1 has 4 times the
average minutes per day of BBC2

TP has approx the same number of minutes per viewer as BBC2, (if my mental
arithmetic didn't fail me)
tim...
2021-04-01 07:39:33 UTC
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filming a TV show called
#SecretsOfTheLondonUnderground during a lockdown
How is that an essential service?
It's work which he can't do from home. I don't think there's been a point
at which non-essential *work* was forbidden (otherwise my friends who run a
mail-order wool company would have had to close, for example). Or do you
think all production of new TV programmes should have ceased for a year?
Anna Noyd-Dryver
(OT) Well .... I would be happy to see all soaps cease for 50 years. It
might give TV a chance to devise some new, original dramas instead of
bombarding us with endless variations on the same tedious stories......
is your TV missing an OFF button?
No. It also has a channel change option. It is just that I wish there were
more options for original UK drama, instead of endless repetition of
things long past their sell-by dates.
So you really can't find anything of interest on one of the 57 channels
(with nothing on!). Either live or time shifted via your preferred method?

you're either very very very very very fussy, or not trying hard enough
Marland
2021-04-01 07:58:55 UTC
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filming a TV show called
#SecretsOfTheLondonUnderground during a lockdown
How is that an essential service?
It's work which he can't do from home. I don't think there's been a point
at which non-essential *work* was forbidden (otherwise my friends who run a
mail-order wool company would have had to close, for example). Or do you
think all production of new TV programmes should have ceased for a year?
Anna Noyd-Dryver
(OT) Well .... I would be happy to see all soaps cease for 50 years. It
might give TV a chance to devise some new, original dramas instead of
bombarding us with endless variations on the same tedious stories......
is your TV missing an OFF button?
No. It also has a channel change option. It is just that I wish there were
more options for original UK drama, instead of endless repetition of
things long past their sell-by dates.
So you really can't find anything of interest on one of the 57 channels
(with nothing on!).
A good proportion of those would have nothing to show if Adolf hadn’t
invaded Poland.

GH
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2021-04-01 11:34:41 UTC
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filming a TV show called
#SecretsOfTheLondonUnderground during a lockdown
How is that an essential service?
It's work which he can't do from home. I don't think there's been a point
at which non-essential *work* was forbidden (otherwise my friends who run a
mail-order wool company would have had to close, for example). Or do you
think all production of new TV programmes should have ceased for a year?
Anna Noyd-Dryver
(OT) Well .... I would be happy to see all soaps cease for 50 years. It
might give TV a chance to devise some new, original dramas instead of
bombarding us with endless variations on the same tedious
stories......
is your TV missing an OFF button?
No. It also has a channel change option. It is just that I wish there were
more options for original UK drama, instead of endless repetition of
things long past their sell-by dates.
So you really can't find anything of interest on one of the 57 channels
(with nothing on!).
A good proportion of those would have nothing to show if Adolf hadn’t
invaded Poland.
I agree

I do wish they would make documentaries on other wars

;-)

I know zip all about the minutiae of the Boer War or the Crimea War for
example (all I know comes from a couple of Hollywood blockbuster movies -
and we all know how inaccurate they can sometimes be)
MB
2021-04-01 13:30:13 UTC
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I do wish they would make documentaries on other wars
I just can't stand the American style of documentary.
Graeme Wall
2021-04-01 17:51:01 UTC
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filming a TV show called
#SecretsOfTheLondonUnderground during a lockdown
How is that an essential service?
It's work which he can't do from home. I don't think there's been a point
at which non-essential *work* was forbidden (otherwise my friends
who
run a
mail-order wool company would have had to close, for example). Or do you
think all production of new TV programmes should have ceased for a year?
Anna Noyd-Dryver
(OT) Well .... I would be happy to see all soaps cease for 50 years. It
might give TV a chance to devise some new, original dramas instead of
bombarding us with endless variations on the same tedious
stories......
is your TV missing an OFF button?
No. It also has a channel change option. It is just that I wish there were
more options for original UK drama, instead of endless repetition of
things long past their sell-by dates.
So you really can't find anything of interest on one of the 57 channels
(with nothing on!).
A good proportion of those would have nothing to show if Adolf hadn’t
invaded Poland.
I agree
I do wish they would make documentaries on other wars
;-)
I know zip all about the minutiae of the Boer War or the Crimea War for
example (all I know comes from a couple of Hollywood blockbuster movies
- and we all know how inaccurate they can sometimes be)
Not a lot of library footage from either of those.
--
Graeme Wall
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Arthur Figgis
2021-04-01 20:24:45 UTC
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I know zip all about the minutiae of the Boer War or the Crimea War
for example (all I know comes from a couple of Hollywood blockbuster
movies - and we all know how inaccurate they can sometimes be)
Not a lot of library footage from either of those.
Going by pictures on social media of Russian trains heading southwest,
people might soon not need a library to find pictures of Crimea-related
wars...
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Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK
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