Satoshi Popinjay
2021-11-19 18:37:21 UTC
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BillB
2021-11-19 19:20:19 UTC
It was a foregone conclusion. I told you a week ago it would not guilty. Have I EVER steered you wrong?
Just remember, "not guilty" is not a declaration of innocence.
Just remember, "not guilty" is not a declaration of innocence.
BTSinAustin
2021-11-19 19:30:09 UTC
Agree.
One would think that the leftist media would step back and reconsider calling a defendant a domestic terrorist... Joy Reid.
But no, they double down with headlines like this...
"Kyle Rittenhouse trial was designed to protect white conservatives who kill"- MSNBC
If you can read this without puking... https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/reidout-blog/kyle-rittenhouse-acquitted-homicide-rcna5748
The meltdown will be amusing to watch.
One would think that the leftist media would step back and reconsider calling a defendant a domestic terrorist... Joy Reid.
But no, they double down with headlines like this...
"Kyle Rittenhouse trial was designed to protect white conservatives who kill"- MSNBC
If you can read this without puking... https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/reidout-blog/kyle-rittenhouse-acquitted-homicide-rcna5748
The meltdown will be amusing to watch.
BTSinAustin
2021-11-19 20:40:34 UTC
~ One would think that the leftist media would step back and reconsider calling a defendant a domestic terrorist... Joy Reid.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/verdict-kyle-rittenhouse-not-guilty
Oh damn...Post by BTSinAustin
But no, they double down with headlines like this...
"Kyle Rittenhouse trial was designed to protect white conservatives who kill"- MSNBC
If you can read this without puking... https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/reidout-blog/kyle-rittenhouse-acquitted-homicide-rcna5748
The meltdown will be amusing to watch.
''The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) on Friday called the verdict 'an outrageous failure to protect protesters..'But no, they double down with headlines like this...
"Kyle Rittenhouse trial was designed to protect white conservatives who kill"- MSNBC
If you can read this without puking... https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/reidout-blog/kyle-rittenhouse-acquitted-homicide-rcna5748
The meltdown will be amusing to watch.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/verdict-kyle-rittenhouse-not-guilty
One thing that blows me away is Wisconsin ordered the National Guard out for the verdict, had they done that for the riots and looting we would not be having this conversation.
Dutch
2021-11-23 08:32:28 UTC
Post by BTSinAustin
One thing that blows me away is Wisconsin ordered the National Guard out for the verdict, had they done that for the riots and looting we would not be having this conversation.
There were plenty of police at the Kenosha protest. Police are trained~ One would think that the leftist media would step back and reconsider calling a defendant a domestic terrorist... Joy Reid.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/verdict-kyle-rittenhouse-not-guilty
Oh damn...Post by BTSinAustin
But no, they double down with headlines like this...
"Kyle Rittenhouse trial was designed to protect white conservatives who kill"- MSNBC
If you can read this without puking... https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/reidout-blog/kyle-rittenhouse-acquitted-homicide-rcna5748
The meltdown will be amusing to watch.
''The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) on Friday called the verdict 'an outrageous failure to protect protesters..'But no, they double down with headlines like this...
"Kyle Rittenhouse trial was designed to protect white conservatives who kill"- MSNBC
If you can read this without puking... https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/reidout-blog/kyle-rittenhouse-acquitted-homicide-rcna5748
The meltdown will be amusing to watch.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/verdict-kyle-rittenhouse-not-guilty
One thing that blows me away is Wisconsin ordered the National Guard out for the verdict, had they done that for the riots and looting we would not be having this conversation.
to NOT do what Kyle Rittenhouse did.
BTSinAustin
2021-11-23 14:31:19 UTC
Post by Dutch
to NOT do what Kyle Rittenhouse did.
As I recall the police were told to stand down. Let them burn it all so we appear woke.Post by BTSinAustin
One thing that blows me away is Wisconsin ordered the National Guard out for the verdict, had they done that for the riots and looting we would not be having this conversation.
There were plenty of police at the Kenosha protest. Police are trained~ One would think that the leftist media would step back and reconsider calling a defendant a domestic terrorist... Joy Reid.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/verdict-kyle-rittenhouse-not-guilty
Oh damn...Post by BTSinAustin
But no, they double down with headlines like this...
"Kyle Rittenhouse trial was designed to protect white conservatives who kill"- MSNBC
If you can read this without puking... https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/reidout-blog/kyle-rittenhouse-acquitted-homicide-rcna5748
The meltdown will be amusing to watch.
''The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) on Friday called the verdict 'an outrageous failure to protect protesters..'But no, they double down with headlines like this...
"Kyle Rittenhouse trial was designed to protect white conservatives who kill"- MSNBC
If you can read this without puking... https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/reidout-blog/kyle-rittenhouse-acquitted-homicide-rcna5748
The meltdown will be amusing to watch.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/verdict-kyle-rittenhouse-not-guilty
One thing that blows me away is Wisconsin ordered the National Guard out for the verdict, had they done that for the riots and looting we would not be having this conversation.
to NOT do what Kyle Rittenhouse did.
Bill Vanek
2021-11-23 15:51:29 UTC
Post by Dutch
to NOT do what Kyle Rittenhouse did.
As I recall the police were told to stand down. Let them burn it all so wePost by BTSinAustin
'an outrageous failure to protect protesters..'
https://www.foxnews.com/us/verdict-kyle-rittenhouse-not-guilty
Oh damn...
One thing that blows me away is Wisconsin ordered the National Guard out
for the verdict, had they done that for the riots and looting we would not
be having this conversation.
There were plenty of police at the Kenosha protest. Police are trainedPost by BTSinAustin
One would think that the leftist media would step back and reconsider
calling a defendant a domestic terrorist... Joy Reid.
But no, they double down with headlines like this...
"Kyle Rittenhouse trial was designed to protect white conservatives who
kill"- MSNBC
If you can read this without puking...
https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/reidout-blog/kyle-rittenhouse-acquitted
-homicide-rcna5748
The meltdown will be amusing to watch.
''The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) on Friday called the verdictPost by risky biz
On Friday, November 19, 2021 at 10:37:24 AM UTC-8, Satoshi Popinjay
It was a foregone conclusion.
Agree.On Friday, November 19, 2021 at 10:37:24 AM UTC-8, Satoshi Popinjay
It was a foregone conclusion.
One would think that the leftist media would step back and reconsider
calling a defendant a domestic terrorist... Joy Reid.
But no, they double down with headlines like this...
"Kyle Rittenhouse trial was designed to protect white conservatives who
kill"- MSNBC
If you can read this without puking...
https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/reidout-blog/kyle-rittenhouse-acquitted
-homicide-rcna5748
The meltdown will be amusing to watch.
'an outrageous failure to protect protesters..'
https://www.foxnews.com/us/verdict-kyle-rittenhouse-not-guilty
One thing that blows me away is Wisconsin ordered the National Guard out
for the verdict, had they done that for the riots and looting we would not
be having this conversation.
to NOT do what Kyle Rittenhouse did.
appear woke.
no reasoning with a propagandist.
Dutch
2021-11-24 08:03:01 UTC
Post by Bill Vanek
appear woke.
You are talking to Leni. She will say whatever she is told to say. There is
no reasoning with a propagandist.
Polly want a cracker?Post by Dutch
to NOT do what Kyle Rittenhouse did.
As I recall the police were told to stand down. Let them burn it all so wePost by BTSinAustin
'an outrageous failure to protect protesters..'
https://www.foxnews.com/us/verdict-kyle-rittenhouse-not-guilty
Oh damn...
One thing that blows me away is Wisconsin ordered the National Guard out
for the verdict, had they done that for the riots and looting we would not
be having this conversation.
There were plenty of police at the Kenosha protest. Police are trainedPost by BTSinAustin
Agree.
One would think that the leftist media would step back and reconsider
calling a defendant a domestic terrorist... Joy Reid.
But no, they double down with headlines like this...
"Kyle Rittenhouse trial was designed to protect white conservatives who
kill"- MSNBC
If you can read this without puking...
https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/reidout-blog/kyle-rittenhouse-acquitted
-homicide-rcna5748
The meltdown will be amusing to watch.
''The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) on Friday called the verdictAgree.
One would think that the leftist media would step back and reconsider
calling a defendant a domestic terrorist... Joy Reid.
But no, they double down with headlines like this...
"Kyle Rittenhouse trial was designed to protect white conservatives who
kill"- MSNBC
If you can read this without puking...
https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/reidout-blog/kyle-rittenhouse-acquitted
-homicide-rcna5748
The meltdown will be amusing to watch.
'an outrageous failure to protect protesters..'
https://www.foxnews.com/us/verdict-kyle-rittenhouse-not-guilty
One thing that blows me away is Wisconsin ordered the National Guard out
for the verdict, had they done that for the riots and looting we would not
be having this conversation.
to NOT do what Kyle Rittenhouse did.
appear woke.
no reasoning with a propagandist.
Dutch
2021-11-24 08:02:27 UTC
Post by BTSinAustin
You are obviously an expert on public safety. Too bad you weren't inPost by Dutch
to NOT do what Kyle Rittenhouse did.
As I recall the police were told to stand down. Let them burn it all so we appear woke.Post by BTSinAustin
One thing that blows me away is Wisconsin ordered the National Guard out for the verdict, had they done that for the riots and looting we would not be having this conversation.
There were plenty of police at the Kenosha protest. Police are trained~ One would think that the leftist media would step back and reconsider calling a defendant a domestic terrorist... Joy Reid.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/verdict-kyle-rittenhouse-not-guilty
Oh damn...Post by BTSinAustin
But no, they double down with headlines like this...
"Kyle Rittenhouse trial was designed to protect white conservatives who kill"- MSNBC
If you can read this without puking... https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/reidout-blog/kyle-rittenhouse-acquitted-homicide-rcna5748
The meltdown will be amusing to watch.
''The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) on Friday called the verdict 'an outrageous failure to protect protesters..'But no, they double down with headlines like this...
"Kyle Rittenhouse trial was designed to protect white conservatives who kill"- MSNBC
If you can read this without puking... https://www.msnbc.com/the-reidout/reidout-blog/kyle-rittenhouse-acquitted-homicide-rcna5748
The meltdown will be amusing to watch.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/verdict-kyle-rittenhouse-not-guilty
One thing that blows me away is Wisconsin ordered the National Guard out for the verdict, had they done that for the riots and looting we would not be having this conversation.
to NOT do what Kyle Rittenhouse did.
charge to tell the troops to wade into the crowd waving AR-15s around.
VegasJerry
2021-11-19 21:01:05 UTC
Post by BillB
It was a foregone conclusion. I told you a week ago it would not guilty. Have I EVER steered you wrong?
Yes. In fact, Risky and I have listed them a number of times...It was a foregone conclusion. I told you a week ago it would not guilty. Have I EVER steered you wrong?
risky biz
2021-11-19 21:20:05 UTC
Post by BillB
It was a foregone conclusion. I told you a week ago it would not guilty. Have I EVER steered you wrong?
It was a foregone conclusion. I told you a week ago it would not guilty. Have I EVER steered you wrong?
To be fair, we should give Blabbermouth credit for predicting 'it would not guilty'. Whatever TF that means. 👉ESL
Tim Norfolk
2021-11-20 01:30:53 UTC
Post by BillB
It was a foregone conclusion. I told you a week ago it would not guilty. Have I EVER steered you wrong?
Just remember, "not guilty" is not a declaration of innocence.
What is the difference between these cases?It was a foregone conclusion. I told you a week ago it would not guilty. Have I EVER steered you wrong?
Just remember, "not guilty" is not a declaration of innocence.
(2012) George Zimmerman followed an unarmed young man for no valid reason, started a fight with him, and ended up shooting him dead. Acquitted.
(2014) Tamir Rice was playing with a toy gun in a park, and was shot dead by a police officer less than 2 seconds after he arrived on the scene. The officer was fired, but suffered no legal consequences.
(2014) John Crawford was holding a pellet gun at a display in Walmart. Police arrived, and shot him dead immediately. No charges filed.
(2020) Kyle Rittenhouse took a gun illegally across state lines to counter protesters. He ended up shooting three people. Two were unarmed, and died. Acquitted of all charges.
Bill Vanek
2021-11-20 04:14:13 UTC
Post by Tim Norfolk
(2012) George Zimmerman followed an unarmed young man for no valid reason,
started a fight with him, and ended up shooting him dead. Acquitted.
(2014) Tamir Rice was playing with a toy gun in a park, and was shot dead by
a police officer less than 2 seconds after he arrived on the scene. The
officer was fired, but suffered no legal consequences.
(2014) John Crawford was holding a pellet gun at a display in Walmart. Police
arrived, and shot him dead immediately. No charges filed.
(2020) Kyle Rittenhouse took a gun illegally across state lines to counter
protesters. He ended up shooting three people. Two were unarmed, and died.
Acquitted of all charges.
Why do you lie? It doesn’t help your case, whatever that case might be.Post by BillB
It was a foregone conclusion. I told you a week ago it would not guilty.
Have I EVER steered you wrong?
Just remember, "not guilty" is not a declaration of innocence.
What is the difference between these cases?It was a foregone conclusion. I told you a week ago it would not guilty.
Have I EVER steered you wrong?
Just remember, "not guilty" is not a declaration of innocence.
(2012) George Zimmerman followed an unarmed young man for no valid reason,
started a fight with him, and ended up shooting him dead. Acquitted.
(2014) Tamir Rice was playing with a toy gun in a park, and was shot dead by
a police officer less than 2 seconds after he arrived on the scene. The
officer was fired, but suffered no legal consequences.
(2014) John Crawford was holding a pellet gun at a display in Walmart. Police
arrived, and shot him dead immediately. No charges filed.
(2020) Kyle Rittenhouse took a gun illegally across state lines to counter
protesters. He ended up shooting three people. Two were unarmed, and died.
Acquitted of all charges.
Tim Norfolk
2021-11-20 05:12:31 UTC
Post by Bill Vanek
Which part is a lie?Post by Tim Norfolk
(2012) George Zimmerman followed an unarmed young man for no valid reason,
started a fight with him, and ended up shooting him dead. Acquitted.
(2014) Tamir Rice was playing with a toy gun in a park, and was shot dead by
a police officer less than 2 seconds after he arrived on the scene. The
officer was fired, but suffered no legal consequences.
(2014) John Crawford was holding a pellet gun at a display in Walmart. Police
arrived, and shot him dead immediately. No charges filed.
(2020) Kyle Rittenhouse took a gun illegally across state lines to counter
protesters. He ended up shooting three people. Two were unarmed, and died.
Acquitted of all charges.
Why do you lie? It doesn’t help your case, whatever that case might be.Post by BillB
It was a foregone conclusion. I told you a week ago it would not guilty.
Have I EVER steered you wrong?
Just remember, "not guilty" is not a declaration of innocence.
What is the difference between these cases?It was a foregone conclusion. I told you a week ago it would not guilty.
Have I EVER steered you wrong?
Just remember, "not guilty" is not a declaration of innocence.
(2012) George Zimmerman followed an unarmed young man for no valid reason,
started a fight with him, and ended up shooting him dead. Acquitted.
(2014) Tamir Rice was playing with a toy gun in a park, and was shot dead by
a police officer less than 2 seconds after he arrived on the scene. The
officer was fired, but suffered no legal consequences.
(2014) John Crawford was holding a pellet gun at a display in Walmart. Police
arrived, and shot him dead immediately. No charges filed.
(2020) Kyle Rittenhouse took a gun illegally across state lines to counter
protesters. He ended up shooting three people. Two were unarmed, and died.
Acquitted of all charges.
Tim Norfolk
2021-11-20 05:17:00 UTC
Post by Tim Norfolk
My bad. He obtained the gun is a very dubious manner. The judge decided to drop the charges, although his friend is still charged, the last I checked. That should make for an interesting case.Post by Bill Vanek
Which part is a lie?Post by Tim Norfolk
(2012) George Zimmerman followed an unarmed young man for no valid reason,
started a fight with him, and ended up shooting him dead. Acquitted.
(2014) Tamir Rice was playing with a toy gun in a park, and was shot dead by
a police officer less than 2 seconds after he arrived on the scene. The
officer was fired, but suffered no legal consequences.
(2014) John Crawford was holding a pellet gun at a display in Walmart. Police
arrived, and shot him dead immediately. No charges filed.
(2020) Kyle Rittenhouse took a gun illegally across state lines to counter
protesters. He ended up shooting three people. Two were unarmed, and died.
Acquitted of all charges.
Why do you lie? It doesn’t help your case, whatever that case might be.Post by BillB
It was a foregone conclusion. I told you a week ago it would not guilty.
Have I EVER steered you wrong?
Just remember, "not guilty" is not a declaration of innocence.
What is the difference between these cases?It was a foregone conclusion. I told you a week ago it would not guilty.
Have I EVER steered you wrong?
Just remember, "not guilty" is not a declaration of innocence.
(2012) George Zimmerman followed an unarmed young man for no valid reason,
started a fight with him, and ended up shooting him dead. Acquitted.
(2014) Tamir Rice was playing with a toy gun in a park, and was shot dead by
a police officer less than 2 seconds after he arrived on the scene. The
officer was fired, but suffered no legal consequences.
(2014) John Crawford was holding a pellet gun at a display in Walmart. Police
arrived, and shot him dead immediately. No charges filed.
(2020) Kyle Rittenhouse took a gun illegally across state lines to counter
protesters. He ended up shooting three people. Two were unarmed, and died.
Acquitted of all charges.
Dutch
2021-11-24 08:06:19 UTC
And why aren’t you criticizing the 3 violent
thugs he shot?
What led you to conclude that his three victims were "violent thugs"?thugs he shot?
Did The WSJ tell you that?
risky biz
2021-11-24 08:31:24 UTC
~ What led you to conclude that his three victims were "violent thugs"?
They weren't victims, they were perpetrators. They chased someone down then tried to beat his brains out with a skateboard and shoot him with a handgun. You're clinically insane.
They weren't victims, they were perpetrators. They chased someone down then tried to beat his brains out with a skateboard and shoot him with a handgun. You're clinically insane.
Dutch
2021-11-24 08:44:32 UTC
Post by risky biz
~ What led you to conclude that his three victims were "violent thugs"?
They weren't victims, they were perpetrators. They chased someone down then tried to beat his brains out with a skateboard and shoot him with a handgun. You're clinically insane.
He shot and killed them, by definition that makes them his victims. And~ What led you to conclude that his three victims were "violent thugs"?
They weren't victims, they were perpetrators. They chased someone down then tried to beat his brains out with a skateboard and shoot him with a handgun. You're clinically insane.
I never said that he didn't have a legitimate claim of self-defense, if
you take the three incidents in isolation. My problem with him is that
he instigated the incident by showing up with that weapon and trying to
take on the rioters like John Wick or something. I can't believe there
is zero accountability for that.
risky biz
2021-11-24 09:05:35 UTC
Post by Dutch
~ He shot and killed them, by definition that makes them his victims.Post by risky biz
~ What led you to conclude that his three victims were "violent thugs"?
They weren't victims, they were perpetrators. They chased someone down then tried to beat his brains out with a skateboard and shoot him with a handgun. You're clinically insane.
~ What led you to conclude that his three victims were "violent thugs"?
They weren't victims, they were perpetrators. They chased someone down then tried to beat his brains out with a skateboard and shoot him with a handgun. You're clinically insane.
No, it doesn't. He was their intended victim and they were the perpetrators of the confrontation.
And
Post by Dutch
I never said that he didn't have a legitimate claim of self-defense, if
you take the three incidents in isolation. My problem with him is that
he instigated the incident by showing up with that weapon and trying to
take on the rioters like John Wick or something. I can't believe there
is zero accountability for that.
He never 'took on the rioters' until they directly attacked him. Stop pretending that he initiated an attack. It makes you look insane.I never said that he didn't have a legitimate claim of self-defense, if
you take the three incidents in isolation. My problem with him is that
he instigated the incident by showing up with that weapon and trying to
take on the rioters like John Wick or something. I can't believe there
is zero accountability for that.
Americans aren't prohibited from using public streets just because some nut in Canada doesn't like them.
Dutch
2021-11-24 09:20:12 UTC
Post by risky biz
No, it doesn't. He was their intended victim and they were the perpetrators of the confrontation.
And why was he their intended victim, exactly? Did he have a target onPost by Dutch
~ He shot and killed them, by definition that makes them his victims.Post by risky biz
~ What led you to conclude that his three victims were "violent thugs"?
They weren't victims, they were perpetrators. They chased someone down then tried to beat his brains out with a skateboard and shoot him with a handgun. You're clinically insane.
~ What led you to conclude that his three victims were "violent thugs"?
They weren't victims, they were perpetrators. They chased someone down then tried to beat his brains out with a skateboard and shoot him with a handgun. You're clinically insane.
No, it doesn't. He was their intended victim and they were the perpetrators of the confrontation.
his back?
Post by risky biz
And
He went there to take on the rioters you dimwit. His stated goal was toAnd
Post by Dutch
I never said that he didn't have a legitimate claim of self-defense, if
you take the three incidents in isolation. My problem with him is that
he instigated the incident by showing up with that weapon and trying to
take on the rioters like John Wick or something. I can't believe there
is zero accountability for that.
He never 'took on the rioters' until they directly attacked him. Stop pretending that he initiated an attack. It makes you look insane.I never said that he didn't have a legitimate claim of self-defense, if
you take the three incidents in isolation. My problem with him is that
he instigated the incident by showing up with that weapon and trying to
take on the rioters like John Wick or something. I can't believe there
is zero accountability for that.
defend private property against anyone who would cause damage. He was
playing the hero in some kind of simulation I'm sure he had played out
in his head. Well, it could not have worked out better for him, now he's
a Trumpster Icon.
Post by risky biz
Americans aren't prohibited from using public streets just because some nut in Canada doesn't like them.
Uhh, yeah, that wasn't a reason I suggested. How about keepingAmericans aren't prohibited from using public streets just because some nut in Canada doesn't like them.
Rambo-wannabe right-wing teenagers away from BLM protests to prevent
deadly confrontations.
risky biz
2021-11-24 19:35:09 UTC
Post by Dutch
~ And why was he their intended victim, exactly? Did he have a target onPost by risky biz
No, it doesn't. He was their intended victim and they were the perpetrators of the confrontation.
Post by Dutch
~ He shot and killed them, by definition that makes them his victims.Post by risky biz
~ What led you to conclude that his three victims were "violent thugs"?
They weren't victims, they were perpetrators. They chased someone down then tried to beat his brains out with a skateboard and shoot him with a handgun. You're clinically insane.
~ What led you to conclude that his three victims were "violent thugs"?
They weren't victims, they were perpetrators. They chased someone down then tried to beat his brains out with a skateboard and shoot him with a handgun. You're clinically insane.
No, it doesn't. He was their intended victim and they were the perpetrators of the confrontation.
Maybe because he wasn't cheering as numerous properties were looted and burned down and because he wasn't covered with tattoos? Just a guess.
Post by Dutch
~ He went there to take on the rioters you dimwit.Post by risky biz
And
And
Post by Dutch
I never said that he didn't have a legitimate claim of self-defense, if
you take the three incidents in isolation. My problem with him is that
he instigated the incident by showing up with that weapon and trying to
take on the rioters like John Wick or something. I can't believe there
is zero accountability for that.
He never 'took on the rioters' until they directly attacked him. Stop pretending that he initiated an attack. It makes you look insane.I never said that he didn't have a legitimate claim of self-defense, if
you take the three incidents in isolation. My problem with him is that
he instigated the incident by showing up with that weapon and trying to
take on the rioters like John Wick or something. I can't believe there
is zero accountability for that.
He defended himself against people who attacked him and he never initiated an attack against anyone.
~ His stated goal was to
A business owner accepted Rittenhouse's offer to guard his property. Here is what happened to that business owner's property the previous night:
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Shooting dead someone doing that isn't 'playing the hero'. It's 'restoring order'.
You're a nincompoop. You deserve the have that happen to your property.
He was
Post by Dutch
playing the hero in some kind of simulation I'm sure he had played out
in his head. Well, it could not have worked out better for him, now he's
a Trumpster Icon.
Rambo-wannabe right-wing teenagers away from BLM protests to prevent
deadly confrontations.
playing the hero in some kind of simulation I'm sure he had played out
in his head. Well, it could not have worked out better for him, now he's
a Trumpster Icon.
Post by risky biz
Americans aren't prohibited from using public streets just because some nut in Canada doesn't like them.
Uhh, yeah, that wasn't a reason I suggested. How about keepingAmericans aren't prohibited from using public streets just because some nut in Canada doesn't like them.
Rambo-wannabe right-wing teenagers away from BLM protests to prevent
deadly confrontations.
Dutch
2021-11-24 22:54:31 UTC
Post by risky biz
Maybe because he wasn't cheering as numerous properties were looted and burned down and because he wasn't covered with tattoos? Just a guess.
A profoundly stupid guess. He was rushed by his first victim (whoPost by Dutch
~ And why was he their intended victim, exactly? Did he have a target onPost by risky biz
No, it doesn't. He was their intended victim and they were the perpetrators of the confrontation.
Post by Dutch
~ He shot and killed them, by definition that makes them his victims.Post by risky biz
~ What led you to conclude that his three victims were "violent thugs"?
They weren't victims, they were perpetrators. They chased someone down then tried to beat his brains out with a skateboard and shoot him with a handgun. You're clinically insane.
~ What led you to conclude that his three victims were "violent thugs"?
They weren't victims, they were perpetrators. They chased someone down then tried to beat his brains out with a skateboard and shoot him with a handgun. You're clinically insane.
No, it doesn't. He was their intended victim and they were the perpetrators of the confrontation.
Maybe because he wasn't cheering as numerous properties were looted and burned down and because he wasn't covered with tattoos? Just a guess.
incidentally was also an idiot) for *not* cheering and *not* being
tattooed? Care to give that another try? This time try to answer with a
credible guess. Obviously he did something that would warranted someone
trying to rush him. That something was likely consistent with his stated
purpose for being there, which would go something like, point his rifle
in the direction of a crowd and warn everyone to stand back.
Post by risky biz
"Rioters" or citizens legally protesting, as they might have been, justPost by Dutch
Post by risky biz
And
And
Post by Dutch
I never said that he didn't have a legitimate claim of self-defense, if
you take the three incidents in isolation. My problem with him is that
he instigated the incident by showing up with that weapon and trying to
take on the rioters like John Wick or something. I can't believe there
is zero accountability for that.
He never 'took on the rioters' until they directly attacked him. Stop pretending that he initiated an attack. It makes you look insane.I never said that he didn't have a legitimate claim of self-defense, if
you take the three incidents in isolation. My problem with him is that
he instigated the incident by showing up with that weapon and trying to
take on the rioters like John Wick or something. I can't believe there
is zero accountability for that.
attacked a random guy, why?
Post by risky biz
~ He went there to take on the rioters you dimwit.
He defended himself against people who attacked him and he never initiated an attack against anyone.
You know this how?~ He went there to take on the rioters you dimwit.
He defended himself against people who attacked him and he never initiated an attack against anyone.
Post by risky biz
~ His stated goal was to
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/62/Car_Source_Kenosha_Burned_out_car_lot.jpg/600px-Car_Source_Kenosha_Burned_out_car_lot.jpg
Shooting dead someone doing that isn't 'playing the hero'. It's 'restoring order'.
So Kyle determined who the perpetrators of property damage were and~ His stated goal was to
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/62/Car_Source_Kenosha_Burned_out_car_lot.jpg/600px-Car_Source_Kenosha_Burned_out_car_lot.jpg
Shooting dead someone doing that isn't 'playing the hero'. It's 'restoring order'.
executed them summarily. And you call that "restoring order"?
There's no evidence that Kyle's victims did anything to any property.
The only crime we know they committed was foolishness for confronting an
armed person.
Post by risky biz
He was
He was
Post by Dutch
playing the hero in some kind of simulation I'm sure he had played out
in his head. Well, it could not have worked out better for him, now he's
a Trumpster Icon.
Rambo-wannabe right-wing teenagers away from BLM protests to prevent
deadly confrontations.
playing the hero in some kind of simulation I'm sure he had played out
in his head. Well, it could not have worked out better for him, now he's
a Trumpster Icon.
Post by risky biz
Americans aren't prohibited from using public streets just because some nut in Canada doesn't like them.
Uhh, yeah, that wasn't a reason I suggested. How about keepingAmericans aren't prohibited from using public streets just because some nut in Canada doesn't like them.
Rambo-wannabe right-wing teenagers away from BLM protests to prevent
deadly confrontations.
BillB
2021-11-24 23:20:47 UTC
Post by Dutch
A profoundly stupid guess. He was rushed by his first victim (who
incidentally was also an idiot) for *not* cheering and *not* being
tattooed? Care to give that another try? This time try to answer with a
credible guess. Obviously he did something that would warranted someone
trying to rush him. That something was likely consistent with his stated
purpose for being there, which would go something like, point his rifle
in the direction of a crowd and warn everyone to stand back.
You got it right on the money. He was pointing his gun at people and issuing orders. That's what I suspected all along, and now I've seen the proof.A profoundly stupid guess. He was rushed by his first victim (who
incidentally was also an idiot) for *not* cheering and *not* being
tattooed? Care to give that another try? This time try to answer with a
credible guess. Obviously he did something that would warranted someone
trying to rush him. That something was likely consistent with his stated
purpose for being there, which would go something like, point his rifle
in the direction of a crowd and warn everyone to stand back.
Dutch
2021-11-24 23:39:41 UTC
Post by BillB
But Risky says they were picking on him because he didn't have any tattoos!Post by Dutch
A profoundly stupid guess. He was rushed by his first victim (who
incidentally was also an idiot) for *not* cheering and *not* being
tattooed? Care to give that another try? This time try to answer with a
credible guess. Obviously he did something that would warranted someone
trying to rush him. That something was likely consistent with his stated
purpose for being there, which would go something like, point his rifle
in the direction of a crowd and warn everyone to stand back.
You got it right on the money. He was pointing his gun at people and issuing orders. That's what I suspected all along, and now I've seen the proof.A profoundly stupid guess. He was rushed by his first victim (who
incidentally was also an idiot) for *not* cheering and *not* being
tattooed? Care to give that another try? This time try to answer with a
credible guess. Obviously he did something that would warranted someone
trying to rush him. That something was likely consistent with his stated
purpose for being there, which would go something like, point his rifle
in the direction of a crowd and warn everyone to stand back.
VegasJerry
2021-11-25 00:08:32 UTC
Post by Dutch
So where were the cops during all this?Post by BillB
But Risky says they were picking on him because he didn't have any tattoos!Post by Dutch
A profoundly stupid guess. He was rushed by his first victim (who
incidentally was also an idiot) for *not* cheering and *not* being
tattooed? Care to give that another try? This time try to answer with a
credible guess. Obviously he did something that would warranted someone
trying to rush him. That something was likely consistent with his stated
purpose for being there, which would go something like, point his rifle
in the direction of a crowd and warn everyone to stand back.
You got it right on the money. He was pointing his gun at people and issuing orders. That's what I suspected all along, and now I've seen the proof.A profoundly stupid guess. He was rushed by his first victim (who
incidentally was also an idiot) for *not* cheering and *not* being
tattooed? Care to give that another try? This time try to answer with a
credible guess. Obviously he did something that would warranted someone
trying to rush him. That something was likely consistent with his stated
purpose for being there, which would go something like, point his rifle
in the direction of a crowd and warn everyone to stand back.
Dutch
2021-11-25 04:05:19 UTC
Post by VegasJerry
You tell me.Post by Dutch
So where were the cops during all this?Post by BillB
But Risky says they were picking on him because he didn't have any tattoos!Post by Dutch
A profoundly stupid guess. He was rushed by his first victim (who
incidentally was also an idiot) for *not* cheering and *not* being
tattooed? Care to give that another try? This time try to answer with a
credible guess. Obviously he did something that would warranted someone
trying to rush him. That something was likely consistent with his stated
purpose for being there, which would go something like, point his rifle
in the direction of a crowd and warn everyone to stand back.
You got it right on the money. He was pointing his gun at people and issuing orders. That's what I suspected all along, and now I've seen the proof.A profoundly stupid guess. He was rushed by his first victim (who
incidentally was also an idiot) for *not* cheering and *not* being
tattooed? Care to give that another try? This time try to answer with a
credible guess. Obviously he did something that would warranted someone
trying to rush him. That something was likely consistent with his stated
purpose for being there, which would go something like, point his rifle
in the direction of a crowd and warn everyone to stand back.
risky biz
2021-11-25 22:35:18 UTC
Post by Dutch
A profoundly stupid guess. He was rushed by his first victim (who
incidentally was also an idiot) for *not* cheering and *not* being
tattooed? Care to give that another try? This time try to answer with a
credible guess. Obviously he did something that would warranted someone
trying to rush him. That something was likely consistent with his stated
purpose for being there, which would go something like, point his rifle
in the direction of a crowd and warn everyone to stand back.
A profoundly stupid guess. He was rushed by his first victim (who
incidentally was also an idiot) for *not* cheering and *not* being
tattooed? Care to give that another try? This time try to answer with a
credible guess. Obviously he did something that would warranted someone
trying to rush him. That something was likely consistent with his stated
purpose for being there, which would go something like, point his rifle
in the direction of a crowd and warn everyone to stand back.
Really? It's on video? He ordered the guy with the skateboard to not beat his brains out or did he order the guy with the handgun to not pull the trigger?
What a dishonest moron.
BillB
2021-11-25 23:02:55 UTC
Post by risky biz
~ You got it right on the money. He was pointing his gun at people and issuing orders. That's what I suspected all along, and now I've seen the proof.
Really? It's on video? He ordered the guy with the skateboard to not beat his brains out or did he order the guy with the handgun to not pull the trigger?
What a dishonest moron.
lol...he calls me "dishonest" but his reading comprehension skills are so poor that he can't even understand what was written. What a donkey.Post by Dutch
A profoundly stupid guess. He was rushed by his first victim (who
incidentally was also an idiot) for *not* cheering and *not* being
tattooed? Care to give that another try? This time try to answer with a
credible guess. Obviously he did something that would warranted someone
trying to rush him. That something was likely consistent with his stated
purpose for being there, which would go something like, point his rifle
in the direction of a crowd and warn everyone to stand back.
A profoundly stupid guess. He was rushed by his first victim (who
incidentally was also an idiot) for *not* cheering and *not* being
tattooed? Care to give that another try? This time try to answer with a
credible guess. Obviously he did something that would warranted someone
trying to rush him. That something was likely consistent with his stated
purpose for being there, which would go something like, point his rifle
in the direction of a crowd and warn everyone to stand back.
Really? It's on video? He ordered the guy with the skateboard to not beat his brains out or did he order the guy with the handgun to not pull the trigger?
What a dishonest moron.
risky biz
2021-11-26 15:17:33 UTC
Post by risky biz
~ You got it right on the money. He was pointing his gun at people and issuing orders. That's what I suspected all along, and now I've seen the proof.
Really? It's on video? He ordered the guy with the skateboard to not beat his brains out or did he order the guy with the handgun to not pull the trigger?
What a dishonest moron.
Post by Dutch
A profoundly stupid guess. He was rushed by his first victim (who
incidentally was also an idiot) for *not* cheering and *not* being
tattooed? Care to give that another try? This time try to answer with a
credible guess. Obviously he did something that would warranted someone
trying to rush him. That something was likely consistent with his stated
purpose for being there, which would go something like, point his rifle
in the direction of a crowd and warn everyone to stand back.
A profoundly stupid guess. He was rushed by his first victim (who
incidentally was also an idiot) for *not* cheering and *not* being
tattooed? Care to give that another try? This time try to answer with a
credible guess. Obviously he did something that would warranted someone
trying to rush him. That something was likely consistent with his stated
purpose for being there, which would go something like, point his rifle
in the direction of a crowd and warn everyone to stand back.
Really? It's on video? He ordered the guy with the skateboard to not beat his brains out or did he order the guy with the handgun to not pull the trigger?
What a dishonest moron.
You're failing, and badly.
risky biz
2021-11-25 22:32:51 UTC
Splashie
2021-11-24 18:36:03 UTC
Post by risky biz
~ What led you to conclude that his three victims were "violent thugs"?
They weren't victims, they were perpetrators. They chased someone down then tried to beat his brains out with a skateboard and shoot him with a handgun. You're clinically insane.
They chased someone WHO HAD JUST KILLED SOMEBODY ELSE down. And no one tried to shoot him, Rittenhouse is still the only one who fired that night.~ What led you to conclude that his three victims were "violent thugs"?
They weren't victims, they were perpetrators. They chased someone down then tried to beat his brains out with a skateboard and shoot him with a handgun. You're clinically insane.
Michael
risky biz
2021-11-24 19:06:22 UTC
Post by Splashie
~ They chased someone WHO HAD JUST KILLED SOMEBODY ELSE down.Post by risky biz
~ What led you to conclude that his three victims were "violent thugs"?
They weren't victims, they were perpetrators. They chased someone down then tried to beat his brains out with a skateboard and shoot him with a handgun. You're clinically insane.
~ What led you to conclude that his three victims were "violent thugs"?
They weren't victims, they were perpetrators. They chased someone down then tried to beat his brains out with a skateboard and shoot him with a handgun. You're clinically insane.
The 'SOMEBODY ELSE' was Rosenbaum who had already twice loudly threatened to kill Rittenhouse and then grabbed Rittenhouse's rifle in an attempt to tear it from his hands. That's when Rosenbaum was shot. You strategically left out selected facts. It was self-defense. That's why the jury acquitted Rittenhouse and repudiated the sham prosecution.
~ And no one tried to shoot him, Rittenhouse is still the only one who fired that night.
Pointing a handgun at someone's head at point-blank range but then failing to shoot them because the intended victim shot off your bicep in self-defense doesn't qualify as 'no one tried to shoot him'. You couldn't be more profoundly dishonest.
Bill Vanek
2021-11-24 19:06:38 UTC
Post by Splashie
The person he had just killed chased him down...Post by risky biz
tried to beat his brains out with a skateboard and shoot him with a
handgun. You're clinically insane.
They chased someone WHO HAD JUST KILLED SOMEBODY ELSE down.Post by Dutch
Did The WSJ tell you that?
They weren't victims, they were perpetrators. They chased someone down thenAnd why aren’t you criticizing the 3 violent
thugs he shot?
What led you to conclude that his three victims were "violent thugs"?thugs he shot?
Did The WSJ tell you that?
tried to beat his brains out with a skateboard and shoot him with a
handgun. You're clinically insane.
Post by Splashie
And no one tried
to shoot him, Rittenhouse is still the only one who fired that night.
No he’s not.And no one tried
to shoot him, Rittenhouse is still the only one who fired that night.
Bill Vanek
2021-11-25 04:14:40 UTC
Post by Bill Vanek
I misspoke and meant he is still the only one who shot anyone that night. MyPost by Splashie
The person he had just killed chased him down...Post by risky biz
tried to beat his brains out with a skateboard and shoot him with a
handgun. You're clinically insane.
They chased someone WHO HAD JUST KILLED SOMEBODY ELSE down.Post by Dutch
Did The WSJ tell you that?
They weren't victims, they were perpetrators. They chased someone down thenAnd why aren’t you criticizing the 3 violent
thugs he shot?
What led you to conclude that his three victims were "violent thugs"?thugs he shot?
Did The WSJ tell you that?
tried to beat his brains out with a skateboard and shoot him with a
handgun. You're clinically insane.
Post by Splashie
And no one tried
to shoot him, Rittenhouse is still the only one who fired that night.
No he’s not.And no one tried
to shoot him, Rittenhouse is still the only one who fired that night.
bad.
Michael
situation. That’s the only reason I remembered it.
BillB
2021-11-20 05:19:55 UTC
Post by Bill Vanek
Time doesn't lie. You are a piss poor judge of character.Post by Tim Norfolk
(2012) George Zimmerman followed an unarmed young man for no valid reason,
started a fight with him, and ended up shooting him dead. Acquitted.
(2014) Tamir Rice was playing with a toy gun in a park, and was shot dead by
a police officer less than 2 seconds after he arrived on the scene. The
officer was fired, but suffered no legal consequences.
(2014) John Crawford was holding a pellet gun at a display in Walmart. Police
arrived, and shot him dead immediately. No charges filed.
(2020) Kyle Rittenhouse took a gun illegally across state lines to counter
protesters. He ended up shooting three people. Two were unarmed, and died.
Acquitted of all charges.
Why do you lie? It doesn’t help your case, whatever that case might be.Post by BillB
It was a foregone conclusion. I told you a week ago it would not guilty.
Have I EVER steered you wrong?
Just remember, "not guilty" is not a declaration of innocence.
What is the difference between these cases?It was a foregone conclusion. I told you a week ago it would not guilty.
Have I EVER steered you wrong?
Just remember, "not guilty" is not a declaration of innocence.
(2012) George Zimmerman followed an unarmed young man for no valid reason,
started a fight with him, and ended up shooting him dead. Acquitted.
(2014) Tamir Rice was playing with a toy gun in a park, and was shot dead by
a police officer less than 2 seconds after he arrived on the scene. The
officer was fired, but suffered no legal consequences.
(2014) John Crawford was holding a pellet gun at a display in Walmart. Police
arrived, and shot him dead immediately. No charges filed.
(2020) Kyle Rittenhouse took a gun illegally across state lines to counter
protesters. He ended up shooting three people. Two were unarmed, and died.
Acquitted of all charges.
Mossingen
2021-11-22 18:21:03 UTC
Post by Bill Vanek
Time doesn't lie. You are a piss poor judge of character.Post by Tim Norfolk
(2012) George Zimmerman followed an unarmed young man for no valid reason,
started a fight with him, and ended up shooting him dead. Acquitted.
(2014) Tamir Rice was playing with a toy gun in a park, and was shot dead by
a police officer less than 2 seconds after he arrived on the scene. The
officer was fired, but suffered no legal consequences.
(2014) John Crawford was holding a pellet gun at a display in Walmart. Police
arrived, and shot him dead immediately. No charges filed.
(2020) Kyle Rittenhouse took a gun illegally across state lines to counter
protesters. He ended up shooting three people. Two were unarmed, and died.
Acquitted of all charges.
Why do you lie? It doesn’t help your case, whatever that case might be.Post by BillB
It was a foregone conclusion. I told you a week ago it would not guilty.
Have I EVER steered you wrong?
Just remember, "not guilty" is not a declaration of innocence.
What is the difference between these cases?It was a foregone conclusion. I told you a week ago it would not guilty.
Have I EVER steered you wrong?
Just remember, "not guilty" is not a declaration of innocence.
(2012) George Zimmerman followed an unarmed young man for no valid reason,
started a fight with him, and ended up shooting him dead. Acquitted.
(2014) Tamir Rice was playing with a toy gun in a park, and was shot dead by
a police officer less than 2 seconds after he arrived on the scene. The
officer was fired, but suffered no legal consequences.
(2014) John Crawford was holding a pellet gun at a display in Walmart. Police
arrived, and shot him dead immediately. No charges filed.
(2020) Kyle Rittenhouse took a gun illegally across state lines to counter
protesters. He ended up shooting three people. Two were unarmed, and died.
Acquitted of all charges.
______________
Time may not intentionally lie, but he's ignorant of the basic facts of
these cases just like 99% of people talking about them.
You don't have to hear anyone's actual opinion about Rittenhouse to know
what they think, just listen to how they present the "facts" of the case.
Tells you everything you need to know.
BillB
2021-11-22 18:45:11 UTC
Post by BillB
______________
Time may not intentionally lie, but he's ignorant of the basic facts of
these cases just like 99% of people talking about them.
You don't have to hear anyone's actual opinion about Rittenhouse to know
what they think, just listen to how they present the "facts" of the case.
Tells you everything you need to know.
"Intentionally lie" is redundant, and you appear to be agreeing with me. Anyone who calls Tim(e) a liar is a piss poor judge of character. That's all I said.Post by Bill Vanek
Time doesn't lie. You are a piss poor judge of character.Post by Tim Norfolk
(2012) George Zimmerman followed an unarmed young man for no valid reason,
started a fight with him, and ended up shooting him dead. Acquitted.
(2014) Tamir Rice was playing with a toy gun in a park, and was shot dead by
a police officer less than 2 seconds after he arrived on the scene. The
officer was fired, but suffered no legal consequences.
(2014) John Crawford was holding a pellet gun at a display in Walmart. Police
arrived, and shot him dead immediately. No charges filed.
(2020) Kyle Rittenhouse took a gun illegally across state lines to counter
protesters. He ended up shooting three people. Two were unarmed, and died.
Acquitted of all charges.
Why do you lie? It doesn’t help your case, whatever that case might be.Post by BillB
It was a foregone conclusion. I told you a week ago it would not guilty.
Have I EVER steered you wrong?
Just remember, "not guilty" is not a declaration of innocence.
What is the difference between these cases?It was a foregone conclusion. I told you a week ago it would not guilty.
Have I EVER steered you wrong?
Just remember, "not guilty" is not a declaration of innocence.
(2012) George Zimmerman followed an unarmed young man for no valid reason,
started a fight with him, and ended up shooting him dead. Acquitted.
(2014) Tamir Rice was playing with a toy gun in a park, and was shot dead by
a police officer less than 2 seconds after he arrived on the scene. The
officer was fired, but suffered no legal consequences.
(2014) John Crawford was holding a pellet gun at a display in Walmart. Police
arrived, and shot him dead immediately. No charges filed.
(2020) Kyle Rittenhouse took a gun illegally across state lines to counter
protesters. He ended up shooting three people. Two were unarmed, and died.
Acquitted of all charges.
______________
Time may not intentionally lie, but he's ignorant of the basic facts of
these cases just like 99% of people talking about them.
You don't have to hear anyone's actual opinion about Rittenhouse to know
what they think, just listen to how they present the "facts" of the case.
Tells you everything you need to know.
Mossingen
2021-11-23 06:24:58 UTC
"BillB" wrote in message news:837c2d6d-22ee-4914-b5fd-***@googlegroups.com...
"Intentionally lie" is redundant, and you appear to be agreeing with me.
Anyone who calls Tim(e) a liar is a piss poor judge of character. That's all
I said.
_________
I don't think he's a liar, and he's one of the few rational posters still
around here, although he is hopelessly liberal and naïve about the world.
"Intentionally lie" is redundant, and you appear to be agreeing with me.
Anyone who calls Tim(e) a liar is a piss poor judge of character. That's all
I said.
_________
I don't think he's a liar, and he's one of the few rational posters still
around here, although he is hopelessly liberal and naïve about the world.
risky biz
2021-11-20 08:57:20 UTC
Post by Tim Norfolk
~ What is the difference between these cases?Post by BillB
It was a foregone conclusion. I told you a week ago it would not guilty. Have I EVER steered you wrong?
Just remember, "not guilty" is not a declaration of innocence.
It was a foregone conclusion. I told you a week ago it would not guilty. Have I EVER steered you wrong?
Just remember, "not guilty" is not a declaration of innocence.
Post by Tim Norfolk
(2012) George Zimmerman followed an unarmed young man for no valid reason, started a fight with him, and ended up shooting him dead. Acquitted.
George Zimmerman is guilty of murdering Trayvon Martin.(2012) George Zimmerman followed an unarmed young man for no valid reason, started a fight with him, and ended up shooting him dead. Acquitted.
Post by Tim Norfolk
(2014) Tamir Rice was playing with a toy gun in a park, and was shot dead by a police officer less than 2 seconds after he arrived on the scene. The officer was fired, but suffered no legal consequences.
The police officer shot someone that was walking toward him with a gun in his hand.(2014) Tamir Rice was playing with a toy gun in a park, and was shot dead by a police officer less than 2 seconds after he arrived on the scene. The officer was fired, but suffered no legal consequences.
Post by Tim Norfolk
(2014) John Crawford was holding a pellet gun at a display in Walmart. Police arrived, and shot him dead immediately. No charges filed.
No comment.(2014) John Crawford was holding a pellet gun at a display in Walmart. Police arrived, and shot him dead immediately. No charges filed.
Post by Tim Norfolk
(2020) Kyle Rittenhouse took a gun illegally across state lines to counter protesters. He ended up shooting three people. Two were unarmed, and died. Acquitted of all charges.
Rittenhouse lived only 20 minutes or less from the location. He had as much right to be there as anyone else. He defended himself against a violent physical attack.(2020) Kyle Rittenhouse took a gun illegally across state lines to counter protesters. He ended up shooting three people. Two were unarmed, and died. Acquitted of all charges.
It's too bad Trayvon Martin didn't have a gun. He'd probably be alive now if he had and the death of a violent asshole like George Zimmerman would be no great loss.
joeturn
2021-11-20 11:08:55 UTC
Post by risky biz
It's too bad Trayvon Martin didn't have a gun. He'd probably be alive now if he had and the death of a violent asshole like George Zimmerman would be no great loss.
https://m.facebook.com/210122206020633/photos/a.210129046019949/1279413985758111/?type=3&source=48Post by Tim Norfolk
~ What is the difference between these cases?Post by BillB
It was a foregone conclusion. I told you a week ago it would not guilty. Have I EVER steered you wrong?
Just remember, "not guilty" is not a declaration of innocence.
It was a foregone conclusion. I told you a week ago it would not guilty. Have I EVER steered you wrong?
Just remember, "not guilty" is not a declaration of innocence.
Post by Tim Norfolk
(2012) George Zimmerman followed an unarmed young man for no valid reason, started a fight with him, and ended up shooting him dead. Acquitted.
George Zimmerman is guilty of murdering Trayvon Martin.(2012) George Zimmerman followed an unarmed young man for no valid reason, started a fight with him, and ended up shooting him dead. Acquitted.
Post by Tim Norfolk
(2014) Tamir Rice was playing with a toy gun in a park, and was shot dead by a police officer less than 2 seconds after he arrived on the scene. The officer was fired, but suffered no legal consequences.
The police officer shot someone that was walking toward him with a gun in his hand.(2014) Tamir Rice was playing with a toy gun in a park, and was shot dead by a police officer less than 2 seconds after he arrived on the scene. The officer was fired, but suffered no legal consequences.
Post by Tim Norfolk
(2014) John Crawford was holding a pellet gun at a display in Walmart. Police arrived, and shot him dead immediately. No charges filed.
No comment.(2014) John Crawford was holding a pellet gun at a display in Walmart. Police arrived, and shot him dead immediately. No charges filed.
Post by Tim Norfolk
(2020) Kyle Rittenhouse took a gun illegally across state lines to counter protesters. He ended up shooting three people. Two were unarmed, and died. Acquitted of all charges.
Rittenhouse lived only 20 minutes or less from the location. He had as much right to be there as anyone else. He defended himself against a violent physical attack.(2020) Kyle Rittenhouse took a gun illegally across state lines to counter protesters. He ended up shooting three people. Two were unarmed, and died. Acquitted of all charges.
It's too bad Trayvon Martin didn't have a gun. He'd probably be alive now if he had and the death of a violent asshole like George Zimmerman would be no great loss.
risky biz
2021-11-20 23:04:46 UTC
Post by joeturn
Was this directed at me?Post by risky biz
It's too bad Trayvon Martin didn't have a gun. He'd probably be alive now if he had and the death of a violent asshole like George Zimmerman would be no great loss.
https://m.facebook.com/210122206020633/photos/a.210129046019949/1279413985758111/?type=3&source=48Post by Tim Norfolk
~ What is the difference between these cases?Post by BillB
It was a foregone conclusion. I told you a week ago it would not guilty. Have I EVER steered you wrong?
Just remember, "not guilty" is not a declaration of innocence.
It was a foregone conclusion. I told you a week ago it would not guilty. Have I EVER steered you wrong?
Just remember, "not guilty" is not a declaration of innocence.
Post by Tim Norfolk
(2012) George Zimmerman followed an unarmed young man for no valid reason, started a fight with him, and ended up shooting him dead. Acquitted.
George Zimmerman is guilty of murdering Trayvon Martin.(2012) George Zimmerman followed an unarmed young man for no valid reason, started a fight with him, and ended up shooting him dead. Acquitted.
Post by Tim Norfolk
(2014) Tamir Rice was playing with a toy gun in a park, and was shot dead by a police officer less than 2 seconds after he arrived on the scene. The officer was fired, but suffered no legal consequences.
The police officer shot someone that was walking toward him with a gun in his hand.(2014) Tamir Rice was playing with a toy gun in a park, and was shot dead by a police officer less than 2 seconds after he arrived on the scene. The officer was fired, but suffered no legal consequences.
Post by Tim Norfolk
(2014) John Crawford was holding a pellet gun at a display in Walmart. Police arrived, and shot him dead immediately. No charges filed.
No comment.(2014) John Crawford was holding a pellet gun at a display in Walmart. Police arrived, and shot him dead immediately. No charges filed.
Post by Tim Norfolk
(2020) Kyle Rittenhouse took a gun illegally across state lines to counter protesters. He ended up shooting three people. Two were unarmed, and died. Acquitted of all charges.
Rittenhouse lived only 20 minutes or less from the location. He had as much right to be there as anyone else. He defended himself against a violent physical attack.(2020) Kyle Rittenhouse took a gun illegally across state lines to counter protesters. He ended up shooting three people. Two were unarmed, and died. Acquitted of all charges.
It's too bad Trayvon Martin didn't have a gun. He'd probably be alive now if he had and the death of a violent asshole like George Zimmerman would be no great loss.
Tim Norfolk
2021-11-20 18:29:11 UTC
Post by risky biz
It's too bad Trayvon Martin didn't have a gun. He'd probably be alive now if he had and the death of a violent asshole like George Zimmerman would be no great loss.
1. Let's watch the video on Tamir Rice: The officer who shot him had already been judged too emotionally unstable to be a police officer by another department.Post by Tim Norfolk
~ What is the difference between these cases?Post by BillB
It was a foregone conclusion. I told you a week ago it would not guilty. Have I EVER steered you wrong?
Just remember, "not guilty" is not a declaration of innocence.
It was a foregone conclusion. I told you a week ago it would not guilty. Have I EVER steered you wrong?
Just remember, "not guilty" is not a declaration of innocence.
Post by Tim Norfolk
(2012) George Zimmerman followed an unarmed young man for no valid reason, started a fight with him, and ended up shooting him dead. Acquitted.
George Zimmerman is guilty of murdering Trayvon Martin.(2012) George Zimmerman followed an unarmed young man for no valid reason, started a fight with him, and ended up shooting him dead. Acquitted.
Post by Tim Norfolk
(2014) Tamir Rice was playing with a toy gun in a park, and was shot dead by a police officer less than 2 seconds after he arrived on the scene. The officer was fired, but suffered no legal consequences.
The police officer shot someone that was walking toward him with a gun in his hand.(2014) Tamir Rice was playing with a toy gun in a park, and was shot dead by a police officer less than 2 seconds after he arrived on the scene. The officer was fired, but suffered no legal consequences.
Post by Tim Norfolk
(2014) John Crawford was holding a pellet gun at a display in Walmart. Police arrived, and shot him dead immediately. No charges filed.
No comment.(2014) John Crawford was holding a pellet gun at a display in Walmart. Police arrived, and shot him dead immediately. No charges filed.
Post by Tim Norfolk
(2020) Kyle Rittenhouse took a gun illegally across state lines to counter protesters. He ended up shooting three people. Two were unarmed, and died. Acquitted of all charges.
Rittenhouse lived only 20 minutes or less from the location. He had as much right to be there as anyone else. He defended himself against a violent physical attack.(2020) Kyle Rittenhouse took a gun illegally across state lines to counter protesters. He ended up shooting three people. Two were unarmed, and died. Acquitted of all charges.
It's too bad Trayvon Martin didn't have a gun. He'd probably be alive now if he had and the death of a violent asshole like George Zimmerman would be no great loss.
2. There was a curfew. Rittenhouse had no right to be there.
risky biz
2021-11-20 22:20:01 UTC
Post by risky biz
It's too bad Trayvon Martin didn't have a gun. He'd probably be alive now if he had and the death of a violent asshole like George Zimmerman would be no great loss.
Post by Tim Norfolk
~ What is the difference between these cases?Post by BillB
It was a foregone conclusion. I told you a week ago it would not guilty. Have I EVER steered you wrong?
Just remember, "not guilty" is not a declaration of innocence.
It was a foregone conclusion. I told you a week ago it would not guilty. Have I EVER steered you wrong?
Just remember, "not guilty" is not a declaration of innocence.
Post by Tim Norfolk
(2012) George Zimmerman followed an unarmed young man for no valid reason, started a fight with him, and ended up shooting him dead. Acquitted.
George Zimmerman is guilty of murdering Trayvon Martin.(2012) George Zimmerman followed an unarmed young man for no valid reason, started a fight with him, and ended up shooting him dead. Acquitted.
Post by Tim Norfolk
(2014) Tamir Rice was playing with a toy gun in a park, and was shot dead by a police officer less than 2 seconds after he arrived on the scene. The officer was fired, but suffered no legal consequences.
The police officer shot someone that was walking toward him with a gun in his hand.(2014) Tamir Rice was playing with a toy gun in a park, and was shot dead by a police officer less than 2 seconds after he arrived on the scene. The officer was fired, but suffered no legal consequences.
Post by Tim Norfolk
(2014) John Crawford was holding a pellet gun at a display in Walmart. Police arrived, and shot him dead immediately. No charges filed.
No comment.(2014) John Crawford was holding a pellet gun at a display in Walmart. Police arrived, and shot him dead immediately. No charges filed.
Post by Tim Norfolk
(2020) Kyle Rittenhouse took a gun illegally across state lines to counter protesters. He ended up shooting three people. Two were unarmed, and died. Acquitted of all charges.
Rittenhouse lived only 20 minutes or less from the location. He had as much right to be there as anyone else. He defended himself against a violent physical attack.(2020) Kyle Rittenhouse took a gun illegally across state lines to counter protesters. He ended up shooting three people. Two were unarmed, and died. Acquitted of all charges.
It's too bad Trayvon Martin didn't have a gun. He'd probably be alive now if he had and the death of a violent asshole like George Zimmerman would be no great loss.
I watched that video. There is no audio. It shows what I said. You have presented no evidence that the officer acted improperly.
~ 2. There was a curfew. Rittenhouse had no right to be there.
That's the same thing I said. He had as much right to be there as anyone else.
If he was in violation of a curfew that doesn't curtail his natural right to defend himself against bodily harm or death.
Splashie
2021-11-21 22:41:29 UTC
Curfew. Gimme a fucking break. "Once the prosecution rested, Judge Bruce
Schroeder
(http://www.cnn.com/2021/10/31/us/kyle-rittenhouse-trial-judge-bruce-
schroeder/index.html) agreed to dismiss a curfew violation charge against
Rittenhouse, ruling that prosecutors had failed to present any evidence a
curfew was in place."
Weird, since that information is easily accessible with a simple Google search:Schroeder
(http://www.cnn.com/2021/10/31/us/kyle-rittenhouse-trial-judge-bruce-
schroeder/index.html) agreed to dismiss a curfew violation charge against
Rittenhouse, ruling that prosecutors had failed to present any evidence a
curfew was in place."
https://www.kenoshacounty.org/CivicAlerts.aspx?AID=1810
"Sheriff Media Releases
Posted on: August 25, 2020
State of Emergency Curfew in effect east of I-94 Tuesday night, Aug. 25
KSD logo
Kenosha County has again declared a State of Emergency curfew east of Interstate 94 from 8 tonight (Tuesday, Aug. 25) until 7 a.m. Wednesday, Aug. 26.
The Sheriff’s Department is instructing the public to stay off the streets for their safety."
https://www.google.com/maps/place/5821+Sheridan+Rd,+Kenosha,+WI+53140/@42.344613,-87.5841891,9.01z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x88055e5bcfdda25d:0xd51406b954c209ee!8m2!3d42.5822662!4d-87.8212391
(5821 Sheridan Road is the address of the car dealership Kyle was "protecting"). If you zoom out on the map, you can quite clearly see it is east of I-94.
And you wonder why I say fuck Schroeder? He was doing everything he could to help the defense. Rittenhouse may have gotten off anyways, but it was a slam dunk the way he conducted the trial.
Michael
Bill Vanek
2021-11-21 23:52:53 UTC
Post by Splashie
"Sheriff Media Releases
Posted on: August 25, 2020
State of Emergency Curfew in effect east of I-94 Tuesday night, Aug. 25
KSD logo
Kenosha County has again declared a State of Emergency curfew east of
Interstate 94 from 8 tonight (Tuesday, Aug. 25) until 7 a.m. Wednesday, Aug.
26.
The Sheriff’s Department is instructing the public to stay off the streets
for their safety."
13,-87.5841891,9.01z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x88055e5bcfdda25d:0xd51406b954c209ee!8m2
!3d42.5822662!4d-87.8212391
(5821 Sheridan Road is the address of the car dealership Kyle was
"protecting"). If you zoom out on the map, you can quite clearly see it is
east of I-94.
I just have to wonder why you think you can find something with a GoogleCurfew. Gimme a fucking break. "Once the prosecution rested, Judge Bruce
Schroeder
(http://www.cnn.com/2021/10/31/us/kyle-rittenhouse-trial-judge-bruce-
schroeder/index.html) agreed to dismiss a curfew violation charge against
Rittenhouse, ruling that prosecutors had failed to present any evidence a
curfew was in place."
https://www.kenoshacounty.org/CivicAlerts.aspx?AID=1810Schroeder
(http://www.cnn.com/2021/10/31/us/kyle-rittenhouse-trial-judge-bruce-
schroeder/index.html) agreed to dismiss a curfew violation charge against
Rittenhouse, ruling that prosecutors had failed to present any evidence a
curfew was in place."
"Sheriff Media Releases
Posted on: August 25, 2020
State of Emergency Curfew in effect east of I-94 Tuesday night, Aug. 25
KSD logo
Kenosha County has again declared a State of Emergency curfew east of
Interstate 94 from 8 tonight (Tuesday, Aug. 25) until 7 a.m. Wednesday, Aug.
26.
The Sheriff’s Department is instructing the public to stay off the streets
for their safety."
13,-87.5841891,9.01z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x88055e5bcfdda25d:0xd51406b954c209ee!8m2
!3d42.5822662!4d-87.8212391
(5821 Sheridan Road is the address of the car dealership Kyle was
"protecting"). If you zoom out on the map, you can quite clearly see it is
east of I-94.
search that the prosecutors were not aware of. Any my understanding is that
any curfew was little more than an advisory with no penalties outside of a
citation. And it applied to everyone, no age restrictions. So why wouldn’t
the prosecutors argue the point? Were they on Rittenhouse’s side, too?
Post by Splashie
And you wonder why I say fuck Schroeder? He was doing everything he could to
help the defense. Rittenhouse may have gotten off anyways, but it was a slam
dunk the way he conducted the trial.
Michael
Unfortunately, in liberal land, any judge that doesn’t do everythingAnd you wonder why I say fuck Schroeder? He was doing everything he could to
help the defense. Rittenhouse may have gotten off anyways, but it was a slam
dunk the way he conducted the trial.
Michael
possible to fuck any conservative and ensure a conviction is helping the
defense. Most sane people would call it a fair trial. Which side do you want
to pick? Sane, or liberal nut?
VegasJerry
2021-11-20 14:55:10 UTC
Post by Tim Norfolk
(2012) George Zimmerman followed an unarmed young man for no valid reason,
started a fight with him, and ended up shooting him dead. Acquitted.
Was the victims given unlawful instructions by the vigilante that were not followed?Post by BillB
It was a foregone conclusion. I told you a week ago it would not guilty. Have I EVER steered you wrong?
Just remember, "not guilty" is not a declaration of innocence.
What is the difference between these cases?It was a foregone conclusion. I told you a week ago it would not guilty. Have I EVER steered you wrong?
Just remember, "not guilty" is not a declaration of innocence.
(2012) George Zimmerman followed an unarmed young man for no valid reason,
started a fight with him, and ended up shooting him dead. Acquitted.
Post by Tim Norfolk
(2014) Tamir Rice was playing with a toy gun in a park, and was shot dead by a police officer less than
2 seconds after he arrived on the scene. The officer was fired, but suffered no legal consequences.
Was the victim given instructions by the police officer that were not followed?(2014) Tamir Rice was playing with a toy gun in a park, and was shot dead by a police officer less than
2 seconds after he arrived on the scene. The officer was fired, but suffered no legal consequences.
Post by Tim Norfolk
(2014) John Crawford was holding a pellet gun at a display in Walmart. Police arrived, and shot him
dead immediately. No charges filed.
Was the victim given instructions by the police officer that were not followed?(2014) John Crawford was holding a pellet gun at a display in Walmart. Police arrived, and shot him
dead immediately. No charges filed.
Post by Tim Norfolk
(2020) Kyle Rittenhouse took a gun illegally across state lines to counter protesters.
He ended up shooting three people. Two were unarmed, and died. Acquitted of all charges.
Were the victims given unlawful instructions by the vigilante that were not followed?(2020) Kyle Rittenhouse took a gun illegally across state lines to counter protesters.
He ended up shooting three people. Two were unarmed, and died. Acquitted of all charges.
Tim Norfolk
2021-11-20 18:31:39 UTC
Post by VegasJerry
I have seen the recordings in the Tamir Rice case. One officer shouted an command, and shot before the kid had time to respond. That officer was judged too emotionally unstable to serve in another department.Post by Tim Norfolk
(2012) George Zimmerman followed an unarmed young man for no valid reason,
started a fight with him, and ended up shooting him dead. Acquitted.
Was the victims given unlawful instructions by the vigilante that were not followed?Post by BillB
It was a foregone conclusion. I told you a week ago it would not guilty. Have I EVER steered you wrong?
Just remember, "not guilty" is not a declaration of innocence.
What is the difference between these cases?It was a foregone conclusion. I told you a week ago it would not guilty. Have I EVER steered you wrong?
Just remember, "not guilty" is not a declaration of innocence.
(2012) George Zimmerman followed an unarmed young man for no valid reason,
started a fight with him, and ended up shooting him dead. Acquitted.
Post by Tim Norfolk
(2014) Tamir Rice was playing with a toy gun in a park, and was shot dead by a police officer less than
2 seconds after he arrived on the scene. The officer was fired, but suffered no legal consequences.
Was the victim given instructions by the police officer that were not followed?(2014) Tamir Rice was playing with a toy gun in a park, and was shot dead by a police officer less than
2 seconds after he arrived on the scene. The officer was fired, but suffered no legal consequences.
Post by Tim Norfolk
(2014) John Crawford was holding a pellet gun at a display in Walmart. Police arrived, and shot him
dead immediately. No charges filed.
Was the victim given instructions by the police officer that were not followed?(2014) John Crawford was holding a pellet gun at a display in Walmart. Police arrived, and shot him
dead immediately. No charges filed.
Post by Tim Norfolk
(2020) Kyle Rittenhouse took a gun illegally across state lines to counter protesters.
He ended up shooting three people. Two were unarmed, and died. Acquitted of all charges.
Were the victims given unlawful instructions by the vigilante that were not followed?(2020) Kyle Rittenhouse took a gun illegally across state lines to counter protesters.
He ended up shooting three people. Two were unarmed, and died. Acquitted of all charges.
As to your other comments, any commands were indeed unlawful.
VegasJerry
2021-11-20 20:38:00 UTC
Post by Tim Norfolk
.Post by VegasJerry
Post by Tim Norfolk
(2012) George Zimmerman followed an unarmed young man for no valid reason,
started a fight with him, and ended up shooting him dead. Acquitted.
Was the victims given unlawful instructions by the vigilante that were not followed?Post by BillB
It was a foregone conclusion. I told you a week ago it would not guilty. Have I EVER steered you wrong?
Just remember, "not guilty" is not a declaration of innocence.
What is the difference between these cases?It was a foregone conclusion. I told you a week ago it would not guilty. Have I EVER steered you wrong?
Just remember, "not guilty" is not a declaration of innocence.
(2012) George Zimmerman followed an unarmed young man for no valid reason,
started a fight with him, and ended up shooting him dead. Acquitted.
Post by Tim Norfolk
(2014) Tamir Rice was playing with a toy gun in a park, and was shot dead by a police officer less than
2 seconds after he arrived on the scene. The officer was fired, but suffered no legal consequences.
Was the victim given instructions by the police officer that were not followed?(2014) Tamir Rice was playing with a toy gun in a park, and was shot dead by a police officer less than
2 seconds after he arrived on the scene. The officer was fired, but suffered no legal consequences.
Post by Tim Norfolk
(2014) John Crawford was holding a pellet gun at a display in Walmart. Police arrived, and shot him
dead immediately. No charges filed.
Was the victim given instructions by the police officer that were not followed?(2014) John Crawford was holding a pellet gun at a display in Walmart. Police arrived, and shot him
dead immediately. No charges filed.
Post by Tim Norfolk
(2020) Kyle Rittenhouse took a gun illegally across state lines to counter protesters.
He ended up shooting three people. Two were unarmed, and died. Acquitted of all charges.
Were the victims given unlawful instructions by the vigilante that were not followed?(2020) Kyle Rittenhouse took a gun illegally across state lines to counter protesters.
He ended up shooting three people. Two were unarmed, and died. Acquitted of all charges.
Post by Tim Norfolk
I have seen the recordings in the Tamir Rice case. One officer shouted an command, and shot
before the kid had time to respond.
Yea, I vaguely remember this. I also remember that videos and descriptions were from a, “CopsI have seen the recordings in the Tamir Rice case. One officer shouted an command, and shot
before the kid had time to respond.
are always killing black people and are always wrong,” perspective, like this one; omitting
extenuating circumstance.
When I finally got the full story; I seem to remember the cops were called for an “Active
Shooter;” or “Man with a gun,” call. So the cops didn’t just wander upon a situation where a
kid or young adult was holding something that could be considered a real gun and might be
playing. The cops were called. In these types of calls we’re always on alert and always watching
for a Cop Ambush.
I hadn’t heard that; but don’t trust it, considering the source. Who ‘judged him too emotionally
unstable?’ And if he was, how could he still be on the force; because whenever we were evaluated
by a shrink; a diagnosis like this was immediately followed by, “You are no longer an officer.” (It
happened to two of my friends after shootings).
And I don’t remember what was noted about when the officers arrived as to what they said and
what the person with the gun did.
____
From all these recent shooting, it appears the vast majority of ‘Resisting Arrest’ and ‘Not following
the instructions of the authorities’ (police officer); seem to indicate a need for school curriculum
to include additional education and training.
Along with, “Looking both ways before crossing the streets,” should be; “The police officer is the
authority in any situation and his instructions are to be followed to the letter.” Plus the reasons
a police officer would request a person to show their hands, et cetera.
risky biz
2021-11-20 22:16:57 UTC
On Saturday, November 20, 2021 at 10:31:42 AM UTC-8, Tim Norfolk wrote:
~ I have seen the recordings in the Tamir Rice case. One officer shouted an command, and shot before the kid had time to respond. That officer was judged too emotionally unstable to serve in another department.
I have only seen the surveillance video which had no audio. In the surveillance video, Rice was shot when he was walking toward the police officer with a gun in his hand.
I haven't seen anything regarding the police officer's prior employment. If true it is not evidenced that he acted improperly.
You're welcome to share other evidence.
~ I have seen the recordings in the Tamir Rice case. One officer shouted an command, and shot before the kid had time to respond. That officer was judged too emotionally unstable to serve in another department.
I have only seen the surveillance video which had no audio. In the surveillance video, Rice was shot when he was walking toward the police officer with a gun in his hand.
I haven't seen anything regarding the police officer's prior employment. If true it is not evidenced that he acted improperly.
You're welcome to share other evidence.
Tim Norfolk
2021-11-22 23:24:02 UTC
Post by Tim Norfolk
command, and shot before the kid had time to respond. That officer was
judged too emotionally unstable to serve in another department.
As to your other comments, any commands were indeed unlawful.
_____________
What actual point are you trying to make by comparing different situations
to each other? People do this all the time, but keep their bottom line
point ambiguous or unstated.
You presented us with several shootings and asked us to compare them. Have
you compared them? What is your conclusion?
I don't have a conclusion, but do have a working hypothesis. A very large part of the events of this case, including the verdict, were because Rittenhouse is not black.Post by VegasJerry
I have seen the recordings in the Tamir Rice case. One officer shouted anPost by Tim Norfolk
(2012) George Zimmerman followed an unarmed young man for no valid reason,
started a fight with him, and ended up shooting him dead. Acquitted.
Was the victims given unlawful instructions by the vigilante that were not followed?Post by BillB
It was a foregone conclusion. I told you a week ago it would not
guilty. Have I EVER steered you wrong?
Just remember, "not guilty" is not a declaration of innocence.
What is the difference between these cases?It was a foregone conclusion. I told you a week ago it would not
guilty. Have I EVER steered you wrong?
Just remember, "not guilty" is not a declaration of innocence.
(2012) George Zimmerman followed an unarmed young man for no valid reason,
started a fight with him, and ended up shooting him dead. Acquitted.
Post by Tim Norfolk
(2014) Tamir Rice was playing with a toy gun in a park, and was shot
dead by a police officer less than
2 seconds after he arrived on the scene. The officer was fired, but
suffered no legal consequences.
Was the victim given instructions by the police officer that were not followed?(2014) Tamir Rice was playing with a toy gun in a park, and was shot
dead by a police officer less than
2 seconds after he arrived on the scene. The officer was fired, but
suffered no legal consequences.
Post by Tim Norfolk
(2014) John Crawford was holding a pellet gun at a display in Walmart.
Police arrived, and shot him
dead immediately. No charges filed.
Was the victim given instructions by the police officer that were not followed?(2014) John Crawford was holding a pellet gun at a display in Walmart.
Police arrived, and shot him
dead immediately. No charges filed.
Post by Tim Norfolk
(2020) Kyle Rittenhouse took a gun illegally across state lines to
counter protesters.
He ended up shooting three people. Two were unarmed, and died. Acquitted
of all charges.
Were the victims given unlawful instructions by the vigilante that were not followed?(2020) Kyle Rittenhouse took a gun illegally across state lines to
counter protesters.
He ended up shooting three people. Two were unarmed, and died. Acquitted
of all charges.
command, and shot before the kid had time to respond. That officer was
judged too emotionally unstable to serve in another department.
As to your other comments, any commands were indeed unlawful.
_____________
What actual point are you trying to make by comparing different situations
to each other? People do this all the time, but keep their bottom line
point ambiguous or unstated.
You presented us with several shootings and asked us to compare them. Have
you compared them? What is your conclusion?
risky biz
2021-11-22 23:55:34 UTC
Post by Tim Norfolk
command, and shot before the kid had time to respond. That officer was
judged too emotionally unstable to serve in another department.
As to your other comments, any commands were indeed unlawful.
_____________
What actual point are you trying to make by comparing different situations
to each other? People do this all the time, but keep their bottom line
point ambiguous or unstated.
You presented us with several shootings and asked us to compare them. Have
you compared them? What is your conclusion?
Post by VegasJerry
followed?
not followed?
I have seen the recordings in the Tamir Rice case. One officer shouted anPost by Tim Norfolk
(2012) George Zimmerman followed an unarmed young man for no valid reason,
started a fight with him, and ended up shooting him dead. Acquitted.
Was the victims given unlawful instructions by the vigilante that were notPost by BillB
It was a foregone conclusion. I told you a week ago it would not
guilty. Have I EVER steered you wrong?
Just remember, "not guilty" is not a declaration of innocence.
What is the difference between these cases?It was a foregone conclusion. I told you a week ago it would not
guilty. Have I EVER steered you wrong?
Just remember, "not guilty" is not a declaration of innocence.
(2012) George Zimmerman followed an unarmed young man for no valid reason,
started a fight with him, and ended up shooting him dead. Acquitted.
followed?
Post by Tim Norfolk
(2014) Tamir Rice was playing with a toy gun in a park, and was shot
dead by a police officer less than
2 seconds after he arrived on the scene. The officer was fired, but
suffered no legal consequences.
Was the victim given instructions by the police officer that were not followed?(2014) Tamir Rice was playing with a toy gun in a park, and was shot
dead by a police officer less than
2 seconds after he arrived on the scene. The officer was fired, but
suffered no legal consequences.
Post by Tim Norfolk
(2014) John Crawford was holding a pellet gun at a display in Walmart.
Police arrived, and shot him
dead immediately. No charges filed.
Was the victim given instructions by the police officer that were not followed?(2014) John Crawford was holding a pellet gun at a display in Walmart.
Police arrived, and shot him
dead immediately. No charges filed.
Post by Tim Norfolk
(2020) Kyle Rittenhouse took a gun illegally across state lines to
counter protesters.
He ended up shooting three people. Two were unarmed, and died. Acquitted
of all charges.
Were the victims given unlawful instructions by the vigilante that were(2020) Kyle Rittenhouse took a gun illegally across state lines to
counter protesters.
He ended up shooting three people. Two were unarmed, and died. Acquitted
of all charges.
not followed?
command, and shot before the kid had time to respond. That officer was
judged too emotionally unstable to serve in another department.
As to your other comments, any commands were indeed unlawful.
_____________
What actual point are you trying to make by comparing different situations
to each other? People do this all the time, but keep their bottom line
point ambiguous or unstated.
You presented us with several shootings and asked us to compare them. Have
you compared them? What is your conclusion?
My working hypothesis is that the jury recognized that being chased and attacked by a violent mob including someone trying to debrain him with a skateboard and someone else pointing a handgun directly at him at point-blank range satisfied the definition of self-defense.
Granted, there are some people who think anyone they don't like, including police officers, has no right to self-defense but there weren't enough of that kind on the jury.
BTSinAustin
2021-11-23 14:29:57 UTC
Post by risky biz
~ I don't have a conclusion, but do have a working hypothesis. A very large part of the events of this case, including the verdict, were because Rittenhouse is not black.
My working hypothesis is that the jury recognized that being chased and attacked by a violent mob including someone trying to debrain him with a skateboard and someone else pointing a handgun directly at him at point-blank range satisfied the definition of self-defense.
Granted, there are some people who think anyone they don't like, including police officers, has no right to self-defense but there weren't enough of that kind on the jury.
The scary thing here is that seemingly intelligent people want to convict on politics alone. Thank god the Twitter jury has no power... yetPost by Tim Norfolk
command, and shot before the kid had time to respond. That officer was
judged too emotionally unstable to serve in another department.
As to your other comments, any commands were indeed unlawful.
_____________
What actual point are you trying to make by comparing different situations
to each other? People do this all the time, but keep their bottom line
point ambiguous or unstated.
You presented us with several shootings and asked us to compare them. Have
you compared them? What is your conclusion?
Post by VegasJerry
followed?
not followed?
I have seen the recordings in the Tamir Rice case. One officer shouted anPost by Tim Norfolk
(2012) George Zimmerman followed an unarmed young man for no valid reason,
started a fight with him, and ended up shooting him dead. Acquitted.
Was the victims given unlawful instructions by the vigilante that were notPost by risky biz
On Friday, November 19, 2021 at 10:37:24 AM UTC-8, Satoshi Popinjay
It was a foregone conclusion. I told you a week ago it would not
guilty. Have I EVER steered you wrong?
Just remember, "not guilty" is not a declaration of innocence.
What is the difference between these cases?On Friday, November 19, 2021 at 10:37:24 AM UTC-8, Satoshi Popinjay
It was a foregone conclusion. I told you a week ago it would not
guilty. Have I EVER steered you wrong?
Just remember, "not guilty" is not a declaration of innocence.
(2012) George Zimmerman followed an unarmed young man for no valid reason,
started a fight with him, and ended up shooting him dead. Acquitted.
followed?
Post by Tim Norfolk
(2014) Tamir Rice was playing with a toy gun in a park, and was shot
dead by a police officer less than
2 seconds after he arrived on the scene. The officer was fired, but
suffered no legal consequences.
Was the victim given instructions by the police officer that were not followed?(2014) Tamir Rice was playing with a toy gun in a park, and was shot
dead by a police officer less than
2 seconds after he arrived on the scene. The officer was fired, but
suffered no legal consequences.
Post by Tim Norfolk
(2014) John Crawford was holding a pellet gun at a display in Walmart.
Police arrived, and shot him
dead immediately. No charges filed.
Was the victim given instructions by the police officer that were not followed?(2014) John Crawford was holding a pellet gun at a display in Walmart.
Police arrived, and shot him
dead immediately. No charges filed.
Post by Tim Norfolk
(2020) Kyle Rittenhouse took a gun illegally across state lines to
counter protesters.
He ended up shooting three people. Two were unarmed, and died. Acquitted
of all charges.
Were the victims given unlawful instructions by the vigilante that were(2020) Kyle Rittenhouse took a gun illegally across state lines to
counter protesters.
He ended up shooting three people. Two were unarmed, and died. Acquitted
of all charges.
not followed?
command, and shot before the kid had time to respond. That officer was
judged too emotionally unstable to serve in another department.
As to your other comments, any commands were indeed unlawful.
_____________
What actual point are you trying to make by comparing different situations
to each other? People do this all the time, but keep their bottom line
point ambiguous or unstated.
You presented us with several shootings and asked us to compare them. Have
you compared them? What is your conclusion?
My working hypothesis is that the jury recognized that being chased and attacked by a violent mob including someone trying to debrain him with a skateboard and someone else pointing a handgun directly at him at point-blank range satisfied the definition of self-defense.
Granted, there are some people who think anyone they don't like, including police officers, has no right to self-defense but there weren't enough of that kind on the jury.
Mossingen
2021-11-23 06:28:04 UTC
"Tim Norfolk" wrote in message news:0f893816-22e5-48b3-809a-***@googlegroups.com...
I don't have a conclusion, but do have a working hypothesis. A very large
part of the events of this case, including the verdict, were because
Rittenhouse is not black.
__________________
Well, at least you said it aloud. Not sure how you arrive at that
conclusion given the video evidence and facts of the case, but I guess
you're entitled to view things how you want. Personally, I think
Rittenhouse took out the trash and should be given a medal.
I don't have a conclusion, but do have a working hypothesis. A very large
part of the events of this case, including the verdict, were because
Rittenhouse is not black.
__________________
Well, at least you said it aloud. Not sure how you arrive at that
conclusion given the video evidence and facts of the case, but I guess
you're entitled to view things how you want. Personally, I think
Rittenhouse took out the trash and should be given a medal.
Dutch
2021-11-23 08:37:55 UTC
Post by Tim Norfolk
I don't have a conclusion, but do have a working hypothesis. A very
large part of the events of this case, including the verdict, were
because Rittenhouse is not black.
__________________
Well, at least you said it aloud. Not sure how you arrive at that
conclusion given the video evidence and facts of the case
Context, 300 years of dual criminal justice systems.I don't have a conclusion, but do have a working hypothesis. A very
large part of the events of this case, including the verdict, were
because Rittenhouse is not black.
__________________
Well, at least you said it aloud. Not sure how you arrive at that
conclusion given the video evidence and facts of the case
, but I guess
Post by Tim Norfolk
you're entitled to view things how you want. Personally, I think
Rittenhouse took out the trash and should be given a medal.
Don't worry, he's being treated like a big celebrity, because apparentlyyou're entitled to view things how you want. Personally, I think
Rittenhouse took out the trash and should be given a medal.
there are a lot of assholes out there who think like you.
risky biz
2021-11-23 22:52:18 UTC
Post by Mossingen
~ Context, 300 years of dual criminal justice systems.Post by Tim Norfolk
I don't have a conclusion, but do have a working hypothesis. A very
large part of the events of this case, including the verdict, were
because Rittenhouse is not black.
__________________
Well, at least you said it aloud. Not sure how you arrive at that
conclusion given the video evidence and facts of the case
I don't have a conclusion, but do have a working hypothesis. A very
large part of the events of this case, including the verdict, were
because Rittenhouse is not black.
__________________
Well, at least you said it aloud. Not sure how you arrive at that
conclusion given the video evidence and facts of the case
If it had been an armed black man who shot three violent assholes trying to beat his brains out and shoot him with a handgun you'd be hailing him for defending himself. My perspective would have been exactly the same while yours would flip 180 degrees. Explain yourself. And don't lie that you wouldn't.
Post by Mossingen
, but I guess
there are a lot of assholes out there who think like you.
, but I guess
Post by Tim Norfolk
you're entitled to view things how you want. Personally, I think
Rittenhouse took out the trash and should be given a medal.
Don't worry, he's being treated like a big celebrity, because apparentlyyou're entitled to view things how you want. Personally, I think
Rittenhouse took out the trash and should be given a medal.
there are a lot of assholes out there who think like you.
Dutch
2021-11-24 08:18:15 UTC
Post by risky biz
If it had been an armed black man who shot three violent assholes trying to beat his brains out and shoot him with a handgun you'd be hailing him for defending himself. My perspective would have been exactly the same while yours would flip 180 degrees. Explain yourself. And don't lie that you wouldn't.
Kyle Rittenhouse's race means nothing to me, but I suspect that if thePost by Mossingen
~ Context, 300 years of dual criminal justice systems.Post by Tim Norfolk
I don't have a conclusion, but do have a working hypothesis. A very
large part of the events of this case, including the verdict, were
because Rittenhouse is not black.
__________________
Well, at least you said it aloud. Not sure how you arrive at that
conclusion given the video evidence and facts of the case
I don't have a conclusion, but do have a working hypothesis. A very
large part of the events of this case, including the verdict, were
because Rittenhouse is not black.
__________________
Well, at least you said it aloud. Not sure how you arrive at that
conclusion given the video evidence and facts of the case
If it had been an armed black man who shot three violent assholes trying to beat his brains out and shoot him with a handgun you'd be hailing him for defending himself. My perspective would have been exactly the same while yours would flip 180 degrees. Explain yourself. And don't lie that you wouldn't.
races were reversed he would have been shot down in that Kenosha street
by the same cops who waved Kyle through their lines with a nudge and a
wink, because whites are inherently peaceful and blacks are inherently
violent, as you know.
Post by risky biz
Post by Mossingen
, but I guess
there are a lot of assholes out there who think like you.
, but I guess
Post by Tim Norfolk
you're entitled to view things how you want. Personally, I think
Rittenhouse took out the trash and should be given a medal.
Don't worry, he's being treated like a big celebrity, because apparentlyyou're entitled to view things how you want. Personally, I think
Rittenhouse took out the trash and should be given a medal.
there are a lot of assholes out there who think like you.
Dutch
2021-11-24 08:51:16 UTC
Post by Dutch
~ Kyle Rittenhouse's race means nothing to me, but I suspect that if thePost by risky biz
If it had been an armed black man who shot three violent assholes trying to beat his brains out and shoot him with a handgun you'd be hailing him for defending himself. My perspective would have been exactly the same while yours would flip 180 degrees. Explain yourself. And don't lie that you wouldn't.
If it had been an armed black man who shot three violent assholes trying to beat his brains out and shoot him with a handgun you'd be hailing him for defending himself. My perspective would have been exactly the same while yours would flip 180 degrees. Explain yourself. And don't lie that you wouldn't.
Post by Dutch
races were reversed he would have been shot down in that Kenosha street
by the same cops who waved Kyle through their lines with a nudge and a
wink, because whites are inherently peaceful and blacks are inherently
violent, as you know.
You traffic quite freely in pure fantasy and choke up on cold, hard facts. You've lost contact with reality.races were reversed he would have been shot down in that Kenosha street
by the same cops who waved Kyle through their lines with a nudge and a
wink, because whites are inherently peaceful and blacks are inherently
violent, as you know.
through police lines after shots were just fired and people in the crowd
screaming? And you think I have lost touch with reality? Who are you anyway?
It was obvious from day one before he was charged (and someone should be required to explain why he was even charged) that Rittenhouse was defending his life against a violent attack. He doesn't lose his natural-born right to self-defense because some whitey in Canada doesn't like his politics or personality.
I have never once said anything about his right of self-defense. I havesaid that his presence there should have been viewed as criminal
provocation.
Post by Dutch
Post by risky biz
Post by Mossingen
, but I guess
there are a lot of assholes out there who think like you.
, but I guess
you're entitled to view things how you want. Personally, I think
Rittenhouse took out the trash and should be given a medal.
Don't worry, he's being treated like a big celebrity, because apparentlyRittenhouse took out the trash and should be given a medal.
there are a lot of assholes out there who think like you.
risky biz
2021-11-24 09:11:39 UTC
Post by Dutch
~ A black dude openly sporting an AR-15 gets a thumbs up as he walks rightPost by Dutch
~ Kyle Rittenhouse's race means nothing to me, but I suspect that if thePost by risky biz
If it had been an armed black man who shot three violent assholes trying to beat his brains out and shoot him with a handgun you'd be hailing him for defending himself. My perspective would have been exactly the same while yours would flip 180 degrees. Explain yourself. And don't lie that you wouldn't.
If it had been an armed black man who shot three violent assholes trying to beat his brains out and shoot him with a handgun you'd be hailing him for defending himself. My perspective would have been exactly the same while yours would flip 180 degrees. Explain yourself. And don't lie that you wouldn't.
Post by Dutch
races were reversed he would have been shot down in that Kenosha street
by the same cops who waved Kyle through their lines with a nudge and a
wink, because whites are inherently peaceful and blacks are inherently
violent, as you know.
You traffic quite freely in pure fantasy and choke up on cold, hard facts. You've lost contact with reality.races were reversed he would have been shot down in that Kenosha street
by the same cops who waved Kyle through their lines with a nudge and a
wink, because whites are inherently peaceful and blacks are inherently
violent, as you know.
Post by Dutch
through police lines after shots were just fired and people in the crowd
screaming? And you think I have lost touch with reality? Who are you anyway?
The two police officers waved him out of the way because the gunfire was coming from elsewhere. That was testified in court and you choose to ignore it and propagate a race-based fantasy. The police would have waved off a black person with a rifle also.through police lines after shots were just fired and people in the crowd
screaming? And you think I have lost touch with reality? Who are you anyway?
It's also completely normal for someone to be armed when violent mobs are running wild in the streets.
Post by Dutch
said that his presence there should have been viewed as criminal
provocation.
It was obvious from day one before he was charged (and someone should be required to explain why he was even charged) that Rittenhouse was defending his life against a violent attack. He doesn't lose his natural-born right to self-defense because some whitey in Canada doesn't like his politics or personality.
I have never once said anything about his right of self-defense. I havesaid that his presence there should have been viewed as criminal
provocation.
Post by Dutch
Post by risky biz
Post by Mossingen
, but I guess
there are a lot of assholes out there who think like you.
, but I guess
you're entitled to view things how you want. Personally, I think
Rittenhouse took out the trash and should be given a medal.
Don't worry, he's being treated like a big celebrity, because apparentlyRittenhouse took out the trash and should be given a medal.
there are a lot of assholes out there who think like you.
Dutch
2021-11-24 09:26:34 UTC
Post by risky biz
The gunfire came from Kyle's AR-15, from the direction Kyle was runningPost by Dutch
~ A black dude openly sporting an AR-15 gets a thumbs up as he walks rightPost by Dutch
~ Kyle Rittenhouse's race means nothing to me, but I suspect that if thePost by risky biz
If it had been an armed black man who shot three violent assholes trying to beat his brains out and shoot him with a handgun you'd be hailing him for defending himself. My perspective would have been exactly the same while yours would flip 180 degrees. Explain yourself. And don't lie that you wouldn't.
If it had been an armed black man who shot three violent assholes trying to beat his brains out and shoot him with a handgun you'd be hailing him for defending himself. My perspective would have been exactly the same while yours would flip 180 degrees. Explain yourself. And don't lie that you wouldn't.
Post by Dutch
races were reversed he would have been shot down in that Kenosha street
by the same cops who waved Kyle through their lines with a nudge and a
wink, because whites are inherently peaceful and blacks are inherently
violent, as you know.
You traffic quite freely in pure fantasy and choke up on cold, hard facts. You've lost contact with reality.races were reversed he would have been shot down in that Kenosha street
by the same cops who waved Kyle through their lines with a nudge and a
wink, because whites are inherently peaceful and blacks are inherently
violent, as you know.
Post by Dutch
through police lines after shots were just fired and people in the crowd
screaming? And you think I have lost touch with reality? Who are you anyway?
The two police officers waved him out of the way because the gunfire was coming from elsewhere.through police lines after shots were just fired and people in the crowd
screaming? And you think I have lost touch with reality? Who are you anyway?
from..
Post by risky biz
That was testified in court and you choose to ignore it and propagate a race-based fantasy. The police would have waved off a black person with a rifle also.
Suuuuuure they would. Unarmed blacks get iced by police all the time forThat was testified in court and you choose to ignore it and propagate a race-based fantasy. The police would have waved off a black person with a rifle also.
doing , but they'd give the okey-doke to a heavily armed one.
Post by risky biz
It's also completely normal for someone to be armed when violent mobs are running wild in the streets.
The only violence that happened that night was a result of Kyle'sIt's also completely normal for someone to be armed when violent mobs are running wild in the streets.
presence there.
Post by risky biz
Post by Dutch
said that his presence there should have been viewed as criminal
provocation.
It was obvious from day one before he was charged (and someone should be required to explain why he was even charged) that Rittenhouse was defending his life against a violent attack. He doesn't lose his natural-born right to self-defense because some whitey in Canada doesn't like his politics or personality.
I have never once said anything about his right of self-defense. I havesaid that his presence there should have been viewed as criminal
provocation.
Post by Dutch
Post by risky biz
Post by Mossingen
, but I guess
there are a lot of assholes out there who think like you.
, but I guess
you're entitled to view things how you want. Personally, I think
Rittenhouse took out the trash and should be given a medal.
Don't worry, he's being treated like a big celebrity, because apparentlyRittenhouse took out the trash and should be given a medal.
there are a lot of assholes out there who think like you.
risky biz
2021-11-24 19:17:48 UTC
Post by Dutch
from..
~ Suuuuuure they would. Unarmed blacks get iced by police all the time forPost by risky biz
The gunfire came from Kyle's AR-15, from the direction Kyle was runningPost by Dutch
~ A black dude openly sporting an AR-15 gets a thumbs up as he walks rightPost by Dutch
~ Kyle Rittenhouse's race means nothing to me, but I suspect that if thePost by risky biz
If it had been an armed black man who shot three violent assholes trying to beat his brains out and shoot him with a handgun you'd be hailing him for defending himself. My perspective would have been exactly the same while yours would flip 180 degrees. Explain yourself. And don't lie that you wouldn't.
If it had been an armed black man who shot three violent assholes trying to beat his brains out and shoot him with a handgun you'd be hailing him for defending himself. My perspective would have been exactly the same while yours would flip 180 degrees. Explain yourself. And don't lie that you wouldn't.
Post by Dutch
races were reversed he would have been shot down in that Kenosha street
by the same cops who waved Kyle through their lines with a nudge and a
wink, because whites are inherently peaceful and blacks are inherently
violent, as you know.
You traffic quite freely in pure fantasy and choke up on cold, hard facts. You've lost contact with reality.races were reversed he would have been shot down in that Kenosha street
by the same cops who waved Kyle through their lines with a nudge and a
wink, because whites are inherently peaceful and blacks are inherently
violent, as you know.
Post by Dutch
through police lines after shots were just fired and people in the crowd
screaming? And you think I have lost touch with reality? Who are you anyway?
The two police officers waved him out of the way because the gunfire was coming from elsewhere.through police lines after shots were just fired and people in the crowd
screaming? And you think I have lost touch with reality? Who are you anyway?
from..
Post by risky biz
That was testified in court and you choose to ignore it and propagate a race-based fantasy. The police would have waved off a black person with a rifle also.
That was testified in court and you choose to ignore it and propagate a race-based fantasy. The police would have waved off a black person with a rifle also.
You're absolutely full of shit. These BLM 'protests' feature armed black people none of whom have been shot by police. In Portland, armed black people set up checkpoints and anointed themselves the new police force. In Kenosha, witnesses attested to numerous armed individuals among the mob looting, sacking, and burning down property.
Post by Dutch
~ The only violence that happened that night was a result of Kyle'sPost by risky biz
It's also completely normal for someone to be armed when violent mobs are running wild in the streets.
It's also completely normal for someone to be armed when violent mobs are running wild in the streets.
When do you start blaming the Holocaust on Jews because they were there?
Post by Dutch
~ I have never once said anything about his right of self-defense. I havePost by risky biz
Post by Dutch
It was obvious from day one before he was charged (and someone should be required to explain why he was even charged) that Rittenhouse was defending his life against a violent attack. He doesn't lose his natural-born right to self-defense because some whitey in Canada doesn't like his politics or personality.
Should the U.S. Constitution also be thrown in the trash because free speech is a 'criminal provocation' to your fellow numbskull Donald Trump?
Post by Dutch
Post by risky biz
Post by Dutch
Post by Dutch
Post by risky biz
Post by Mossingen
, but I guess
there are a lot of assholes out there who think like you.
, but I guess
you're entitled to view things how you want. Personally, I think
Rittenhouse took out the trash and should be given a medal.
Don't worry, he's being treated like a big celebrity, because apparentlyRittenhouse took out the trash and should be given a medal.
there are a lot of assholes out there who think like you.
Dutch
2021-11-24 22:28:29 UTC
Post by risky biz
You're absolutely full of shit. These BLM 'protests' feature armed black people none of whom have been shot by police. In Portland, armed black people set up checkpoints and anointed
themselves the new police force. In Kenosha, witnesses attested toPost by Dutch
from..
~ Suuuuuure they would. Unarmed blacks get iced by police all the time forPost by risky biz
The gunfire came from Kyle's AR-15, from the direction Kyle was runningPost by Dutch
~ A black dude openly sporting an AR-15 gets a thumbs up as he walks rightPost by Dutch
~ Kyle Rittenhouse's race means nothing to me, but I suspect that if thePost by risky biz
If it had been an armed black man who shot three violent assholes trying to beat his brains out and shoot him with a handgun you'd be hailing him for defending himself. My perspective would have been exactly the same while yours would flip 180 degrees. Explain yourself. And don't lie that you wouldn't.
If it had been an armed black man who shot three violent assholes trying to beat his brains out and shoot him with a handgun you'd be hailing him for defending himself. My perspective would have been exactly the same while yours would flip 180 degrees. Explain yourself. And don't lie that you wouldn't.
Post by Dutch
races were reversed he would have been shot down in that Kenosha street
by the same cops who waved Kyle through their lines with a nudge and a
wink, because whites are inherently peaceful and blacks are inherently
violent, as you know.
You traffic quite freely in pure fantasy and choke up on cold, hard facts. You've lost contact with reality.races were reversed he would have been shot down in that Kenosha street
by the same cops who waved Kyle through their lines with a nudge and a
wink, because whites are inherently peaceful and blacks are inherently
violent, as you know.
Post by Dutch
through police lines after shots were just fired and people in the crowd
screaming? And you think I have lost touch with reality? Who are you anyway?
The two police officers waved him out of the way because the gunfire was coming from elsewhere.through police lines after shots were just fired and people in the crowd
screaming? And you think I have lost touch with reality? Who are you anyway?
from..
Post by risky biz
That was testified in court and you choose to ignore it and propagate a race-based fantasy. The police would have waved off a black person with a rifle also.
That was testified in court and you choose to ignore it and propagate a race-based fantasy. The police would have waved off a black person with a rifle also.
You're absolutely full of shit. These BLM 'protests' feature armed black people none of whom have been shot by police. In Portland, armed black people set up checkpoints and anointed
numerous armed individuals among the mob looting, sacking, and burning
down property.
The only person who shot anybody during the Kenosha protest was Kyle.
Post by risky biz
When do you start blaming the Holocaust on Jews because they were there?
What drivel. Kyle was much more than just "there", he was aPost by Dutch
~ The only violence that happened that night was a result of Kyle'sPost by risky biz
It's also completely normal for someone to be armed when violent mobs are running wild in the streets.
It's also completely normal for someone to be armed when violent mobs are running wild in the streets.
When do you start blaming the Holocaust on Jews because they were there?
self-appointed armed guard, presumably to protect storefronts of people
he didn't know. What a hero, what an idiot.
Post by risky biz
Should the U.S. Constitution also be thrown in the trash because free speech is a 'criminal provocation' to your fellow numbskull Donald Trump?
Free speech? What does speech have to do with anything that happenedPost by Dutch
~ I have never once said anything about his right of self-defense. I havePost by risky biz
Post by Dutch
It was obvious from day one before he was charged (and someone should be required to explain why he was even charged) that Rittenhouse was defending his life against a violent attack. He doesn't lose his natural-born right to self-defense because some whitey in Canada doesn't like his politics or personality.
Should the U.S. Constitution also be thrown in the trash because free speech is a 'criminal provocation' to your fellow numbskull Donald Trump?
there? I don't recall much talking.
Post by risky biz
Post by Dutch
Post by risky biz
Post by Dutch
Post by Dutch
Post by risky biz
Post by Mossingen
, but I guess
there are a lot of assholes out there who think like you.
, but I guess
you're entitled to view things how you want. Personally, I think
Rittenhouse took out the trash and should be given a medal.
Don't worry, he's being treated like a big celebrity, because apparentlyRittenhouse took out the trash and should be given a medal.
there are a lot of assholes out there who think like you.
risky biz
2021-11-25 22:30:52 UTC
risky biz
2021-11-19 20:28:08 UTC
On Friday, November 19, 2021 at 10:37:24 AM UTC-8, Satoshi Popinjay wrote:
~ Count #1
The jury should have at least asked the judge to order him to keep his fuckface out of the news media.
~ Count #1
The jury should have at least asked the judge to order him to keep his fuckface out of the news media.
Travel
2021-11-20 03:36:05 UTC
The juries in the country are greatly improving since the Oklahoma "Pharmacist case."
Dutch
2021-11-23 08:28:35 UTC
I wonder if those days of deliberation were theater to make the crazies think
they at least put some hard thought into it... At the same time I’m
surprised - I thought they’d find him guilty of something just to please
the crowd.
Or maybe because somewhere in that stupid justice system in that statethey at least put some hard thought into it... At the same time I’m
surprised - I thought they’d find him guilty of something just to please
the crowd.
they could find something wrong with what he did.
Let’s start a new rumor: Binger was in cahoots with the judge to save
Rittenhouse. He botched the trial intentionally to get an acquittal, and
failing that, to get a mistrial. Of course, I don’t think we have to start
that rumor - someone will. Maybe Dutch. Which is the same as saying MSNBC.
No thanks, conspiracy theories are a right wing specialty, that andRittenhouse. He botched the trial intentionally to get an acquittal, and
failing that, to get a mistrial. Of course, I don’t think we have to start
that rumor - someone will. Maybe Dutch. Which is the same as saying MSNBC.
making heroes out of idiots who deliberately and recklessly endanger
people's lives, because he did it *WITH A BIG HONKIN' GUN*.
What I can't understand is why anybody fucked with him. If I saw a guy
with an AR-15, the LAST thing I would do is bull-rush him.
risky biz
2021-11-23 22:45:34 UTC
On Tuesday, November 23, 2021 at 12:28:43 AM UTC-8, Dutch wrote:
~ No thanks, conspiracy theories are a right wing specialty, that and
~ No thanks, conspiracy theories are a right wing specialty, that and
Post by Dutch
making heroes out of idiots who deliberately and recklessly endanger
people's lives, because he did it *WITH A BIG HONKIN' GUN*.
What I can't understand is why anybody fucked with him. If I saw a guy
with an AR-15, the LAST thing I would do is bull-rush him.
~ Maybe they stupidly thought the news media and criminal-fawning 'liberals' had browbeaten every last American citizen into psychological submission.making heroes out of idiots who deliberately and recklessly endanger
people's lives, because he did it *WITH A BIG HONKIN' GUN*.
What I can't understand is why anybody fucked with him. If I saw a guy
with an AR-15, the LAST thing I would do is bull-rush him.
Dutch
2021-11-24 07:58:24 UTC
Post by risky biz
~ No thanks, conspiracy theories are a right wing specialty, that and
I spent more time than I should have trying to make sense out of that.~ No thanks, conspiracy theories are a right wing specialty, that and
Post by Dutch
making heroes out of idiots who deliberately and recklessly endanger
people's lives, because he did it *WITH A BIG HONKIN' GUN*.
What I can't understand is why anybody fucked with him. If I saw a guy
with an AR-15, the LAST thing I would do is bull-rush him.
~ Maybe they stupidly thought the news media and criminal-fawning 'liberals' had browbeaten every last American citizen into psychological submission.making heroes out of idiots who deliberately and recklessly endanger
people's lives, because he did it *WITH A BIG HONKIN' GUN*.
What I can't understand is why anybody fucked with him. If I saw a guy
with an AR-15, the LAST thing I would do is bull-rush him.