American Airlines smacks down frisky gay couple

[No gAAys on AA]

http://www.advocate.com/news_detail_ektid36619.asp
September 20, 2006

American Airlines rebukes gay couple


An American Airlines captain reportedly threatened to divert a flight
from Paris to New York after a gay couple complained about how they
were treated by the flight crew, The New Yorker reported on Monday.

According to a "Talk of the Town" item in the magazine's September 25
issue, now posted on its Web site, TV journalist George Tsikhiseli and
his boyfriend of four months, writer Stephan Varnier, were told by a
stewardess to stop their "touching and the kissing" not long into
American Airlines Flight 45 from Charles de Gaulle to JFK on August
22. The couple said they were doing nothing inappropriate—perhaps a
peck on the cheek, a head on the other's shoulder—a story backed up by
the two passengers seated behind them and another across the aisle.

When they asked to see the purser—whom the stewardess claimed had
issued the order—the purser said she knew nothing about the incident
and initially agreed that their behavior had not been inappropriate,
the men and witnesses reported. But she returned later to say that
other passengers had complained about the men's affectionate gestures.
When the gay couple asked who had complained, asked to speak with an
American Airlines representative upon landing, and asked for the
stewardess's name and employee number, the purser told them to drop
the matter or the flight would be diverted, the magazine reported.

An hour later, the purser asked Tsikhiseli to meet the captain in a
galley, and the captain repeated the threat to divert the airplane if
the men continued to "argue" with the crew, according to The New
Yorker.

A spokesman for the airline backed up the flight crew's behavior and
said their complaints to the men had nothing to do with the fact that
they were a gay couple. "Our understanding is that the level of
affection was more than a quick peck on the cheek,” he told the
magazine.

[Mxsmanic]

Post by No gAAys on AA
A spokesman for the airline backed up the flight crew's behavior and
said their complaints to the men had nothing to do with the fact that
they were a gay couple. "Our understanding is that the level of
affection was more than a quick peck on the cheek,” he told the
magazine.

Given that a great many male flight attendants are homosexual, it
seems unlikely that the crew would have objected unless these two
people were engaging in some pretty unusual behavior.

[o***@slr.orl.lmco.com]

Post by Mxsmanic

Post by No gAAys on AA
A spokesman for the airline backed up the flight crew's behavior and
said their complaints to the men had nothing to do with the fact that
they were a gay couple. "Our understanding is that the level of
affection was more than a quick peck on the cheek," he told the
magazine.

Given that a great many male flight attendants are homosexual, it
seems unlikely that the crew would have objected unless these two
people were engaging in some pretty unusual behavior.

In another account I read, the original response of the purser was
to tacitly acknowledge that the stewardess who made the comment
was to be ignored. It was only when the two gentlemen asked if
it had to do with them both being male that the purser started taking
a hard line.

[Bob Barnett]

Post by o***@slr.orl.lmco.com

Post by Mxsmanic

Post by No gAAys on AA
A spokesman for the airline backed up the flight crew's behavior and
said their complaints to the men had nothing to do with the fact that
they were a gay couple. "Our understanding is that the level of
affection was more than a quick peck on the cheek," he told the
magazine.

Given that a great many male flight attendants are homosexual, it
seems unlikely that the crew would have objected unless these two
people were engaging in some pretty unusual behavior.

In another account I read, the original response of the purser was
to tacitly acknowledge that the stewardess who made the comment
was to be ignored. It was only when the two gentlemen asked if
it had to do with them both being male that the purser started taking
a hard line.

On a Paris to Chicago AA flight 2 weeks ago, I was basically humping my
GF in front of 2 AA stewardesses bc I said the flight was boring-and
they just laughed.

Those guys have a deadbang lawsuit

[RedDog®©]

Post by Bob Barnett

Post by o***@slr.orl.lmco.com

Post by Mxsmanic

Post by No gAAys on AA
A spokesman for the airline backed up the flight crew's behavior and
said their complaints to the men had nothing to do with the fact that
they were a gay couple. "Our understanding is that the level of
affection was more than a quick peck on the cheek," he told the
magazine.

Given that a great many male flight attendants are homosexual, it
seems unlikely that the crew would have objected unless these two
people were engaging in some pretty unusual behavior.

In another account I read, the original response of the purser was
to tacitly acknowledge that the stewardess who made the comment
was to be ignored. It was only when the two gentlemen asked if
it had to do with them both being male that the purser started taking
a hard line.

On a Paris to Chicago AA flight 2 weeks ago, I was basically humping my
GF in front of 2 AA stewardesses bc I said the flight was boring-and
they just laughed.
Those guys have a deadbang lawsuit

Quit lying Bob.
Lonely old geezers who are into wrestling as much as you don't have gf's.

[lab~rat >:-)]

On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 19:28:51 GMT, Bob Barnett

Post by Bob Barnett

Post by o***@slr.orl.lmco.com

Post by Mxsmanic

Post by No gAAys on AA
A spokesman for the airline backed up the flight crew's behavior and
said their complaints to the men had nothing to do with the fact that
they were a gay couple. "Our understanding is that the level of
affection was more than a quick peck on the cheek," he told the
magazine.

Given that a great many male flight attendants are homosexual, it
seems unlikely that the crew would have objected unless these two
people were engaging in some pretty unusual behavior.

In another account I read, the original response of the purser was
to tacitly acknowledge that the stewardess who made the comment
was to be ignored. It was only when the two gentlemen asked if
it had to do with them both being male that the purser started taking
a hard line.

On a Paris to Chicago AA flight 2 weeks ago, I was basically humping my
GF in front of 2 AA stewardesses bc I said the flight was boring-and
they just laughed.
Those guys have a deadbang lawsuit

Look at the thread it took to bring Bobby out of the closet. LOL
--
lab~rat >:-)
Do you want polite or do you want sincere?

[mrtravel]

Post by Mxsmanic

Post by No gAAys on AA
A spokesman for the airline backed up the flight crew's behavior and
said their complaints to the men had nothing to do with the fact that
they were a gay couple. "Our understanding is that the level of
affection was more than a quick peck on the cheek,” he told the
magazine.

Given that a great many male flight attendants are homosexual, it
seems unlikely that the crew would have objected unless these two
people were engaging in some pretty unusual behavior.

The FA's involved were female. Witnesses on the plane have backed up the
lover's story.

[EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)]

Post by Mxsmanic

Post by No gAAys on AA
A spokesman for the airline backed up the flight crew's behavior and
said their complaints to the men had nothing to do with the fact that
they were a gay couple. "Our understanding is that the level of
affection was more than a quick peck on the cheek,” he told the
magazine.

Given that a great many male flight attendants are homosexual, it
seems unlikely that the crew would have objected unless these two
people were engaging in some pretty unusual behavior.

Maybe one of the male flight attendants got jealous? So
long as they avoid kicking the back of my seat during their
amorous revels, I'd far prefer a pair of affectionate gay
men as neighbors to someone's bratty, undisciplined children!

[IranianSwine]

Post by Mxsmanic

Post by No gAAys on AA
A spokesman for the airline backed up the flight crew's behavior and
said their complaints to the men had nothing to do with the fact that
they were a gay couple. "Our understanding is that the level of
affection was more than a quick peck on the cheek,” he told the
magazine.

Given that a great many male flight attendants are homosexual, it
seems unlikely that the crew would have objected unless these two
people were engaging in some pretty unusual behavior.

Two men getting it on anywhere is diviate behavior.

[Newk Indofman]

Post by IranianSwine

Post by Mxsmanic

Post by No gAAys on AA
A spokesman for the airline backed up the flight crew's behavior and
said their complaints to the men had nothing to do with the fact that
they were a gay couple. "Our understanding is that the level of
affection was more than a quick peck on the cheek," he told the
magazine.

Given that a great many male flight attendants are homosexual, it
seems unlikely that the crew would have objected unless these two
people were engaging in some pretty unusual behavior.

Two men getting it on anywhere is diviate behavior.

d-e-v-i-a-t-e, idiot.

[Martha Vandella]

Post by Newk Indofman

Post by IranianSwine
Two men getting it on anywhere is diviate behavior.

d-e-v-i-a-t-e, idiot.

d-e-v-i-a-n-t, spazz.

[Newk Indofman]

Post by Martha Vandella

Post by Newk Indofman

Post by IranianSwine
Two men getting it on anywhere is diviate behavior.

d-e-v-i-a-t-e, idiot.

d-e-v-i-a-n-t, spazz.

Wrong, mofo. "Deviate" can be used as a verb, a noun or an adjective. The
idiot used it as an adjective.

Main Entry: 3de·vi·ate
Pronunciation: -vE-&t, -vE-"At
Function: adjective
: departing significantly from the behavioral norms of a particular society
<deviate behavior>
http://www.merriam-webster.com/cgi-bin/mwdictrr

[EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)]

Post by Martha Vandella

Post by Newk Indofman

Post by IranianSwine
Two men getting it on anywhere is diviate behavior.

d-e-v-i-a-t-e, idiot.

d-e-v-i-a-n-t, spazz.

Actually both are correct - particularly in a forum where
both American and British English are commonly used.

[Newk Indofman]

Post by Martha Vandella

Post by Newk Indofman

Post by IranianSwine
Two men getting it on anywhere is diviate behavior.

d-e-v-i-a-t-e, idiot.

d-e-v-i-a-n-t, spazz.

Actually both are correct - particularly in a forum where both American
and British English are commonly used.

True and thanks for mentioning that, because I was being too snobbish to
admit it...

[g***@gmail.com]

Post by Newk Indofman

Post by Martha Vandella

Post by Newk Indofman

Post by IranianSwine
Two men getting it on anywhere is diviate behavior.

d-e-v-i-a-t-e, idiot.

d-e-v-i-a-n-t, spazz.

Actually both are correct - particularly in a forum where both American
and British English are commonly used.

True and thanks for mentioning that, because I was being too snobbish to
admit it...

Ignoramus. Deviate is a verb and it's modified by "to". Deviant is a
noun. Since most of Western Civilization is devolving back to grunting
as a way of communicating, I can't fault you for not knowing 4th grade
grammar. I applaud your ability to read and write, however simple your
grasp of the language may be.

[avery]

Post by g***@gmail.com

Post by Newk Indofman

Post by Martha Vandella

Post by Newk Indofman

Post by IranianSwine
Two men getting it on anywhere is diviate behavior.

d-e-v-i-a-t-e, idiot.

d-e-v-i-a-n-t, spazz.

Actually both are correct - particularly in a forum where both American
and British English are commonly used.

True and thanks for mentioning that, because I was being too snobbish to
admit it...

Ignoramus. Deviate is a verb and it's modified by "to". Deviant is a
noun. Since most of Western Civilization is devolving back to grunting
as a way of communicating, I can't fault you for not knowing 4th grade
grammar. I applaud your ability to read and write, however simple your
grasp of the language may be.

Huh? "Deviate" most certainly is also an adjective (means "departing
significantly from the behavioral norms of a particular society <deviate
behavior>"). And it can be modified by anything or nothing, not just
"to" -- in fact, it's usually modified by "from." People can deviate *from*
the norm, a journey can be deviated south by bad weather.

[Newk Indofman]

Post by g***@gmail.com

Post by Newk Indofman

Post by Martha Vandella

Post by Newk Indofman

Post by IranianSwine
Two men getting it on anywhere is diviate behavior.

d-e-v-i-a-t-e, idiot.

d-e-v-i-a-n-t, spazz.

Actually both are correct - particularly in a forum where both American
and British English are commonly used.

True and thanks for mentioning that, because I was being too snobbish to
admit it...

Ignoramus. Deviate is a verb and it's modified by "to". Deviant is a
noun. Since most of Western Civilization is devolving back to grunting
as a way of communicating, I can't fault you for not knowing 4th grade
grammar. I applaud your ability to read and write, however simple your
grasp of the language may be.

I've already posted the following. If you're unable to read it, have your
mother or an adult help you out:

Main Entry: de·vi·ate
Pronunciation: -vE-&t, -vE-"At
Function: adjective
: departing significantly from the behavioral norms of a particular society
<deviate behavior>
http://www.merriam-webster.com/cgi-bin/mwdictrr

[glenn P]

Everyone's missing the point - the idiot's opinion on what is the
universally accepted standards of human behaviour didn't need this much
propping....

Plus, your Merriam page lists both as appropriate. What is your argument,
exactly????

Post by Newk Indofman

Post by g***@gmail.com

Post by Newk Indofman

Post by Martha Vandella

Post by Newk Indofman

Post by IranianSwine
Two men getting it on anywhere is diviate behavior.

d-e-v-i-a-t-e, idiot.

d-e-v-i-a-n-t, spazz.

Actually both are correct - particularly in a forum where both American
and British English are commonly used.

True and thanks for mentioning that, because I was being too snobbish to
admit it...

Ignoramus. Deviate is a verb and it's modified by "to". Deviant is a
noun. Since most of Western Civilization is devolving back to grunting
as a way of communicating, I can't fault you for not knowing 4th grade
grammar. I applaud your ability to read and write, however simple your
grasp of the language may be.

I've already posted the following. If you're unable to read it, have your
Main Entry: de·vi·ate
Pronunciation: -vE-&t, -vE-"At
Function: adjective
: departing significantly from the behavioral norms of a particular society
<deviate behavior>
http://www.merriam-webster.com/cgi-bin/mwdictrr

[Newk Indofman]

Post by glenn P
Everyone's missing the point - the idiot's opinion on what is the
universally accepted standards of human behaviour didn't need this much
propping....
Plus, your Merriam page lists both as appropriate. What is your argument,
exactly????

If you are addressing me, my only argument is with the "idiot" who was
labeling what I assume to be G-rated affection expressed publicly between
gay couples as "diviate behavior". I corrected the idiot's spelling -- not
because I am a "grammar Nazi", but merely to jab back. That's all.

[EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)]

Post by g***@gmail.com

Post by Newk Indofman

Post by Martha Vandella

Post by Newk Indofman

Post by IranianSwine
Two men getting it on anywhere is diviate behavior.

d-e-v-i-a-t-e, idiot.

d-e-v-i-a-n-t, spazz.

Actually both are correct - particularly in a forum where both American
and British English are commonly used.

True and thanks for mentioning that, because I was being too snobbish to
admit it...

Ignoramus. Deviate is a verb and it's modified by "to". Deviant is a
noun. Since most of Western Civilization is devolving back to grunting
as a way of communicating, I can't fault you for not knowing 4th grade
grammar. I applaud your ability to read and write, however simple your
grasp of the language may be.

Obviously an American who assumes his version of English is
the only correct one! (And contrary to recent appearances -
i.e. the love affair between the Shrub and Tony Blair - the
UK is not a U.S. possession, either.)

[Tim C.]

Post by Newk Indofman

Post by IranianSwine

Post by Mxsmanic

Post by No gAAys on AA
A spokesman for the airline backed up the flight crew's behavior and
said their complaints to the men had nothing to do with the fact that
they were a gay couple. "Our understanding is that the level of
affection was more than a quick peck on the cheek," he told the
magazine.

Given that a great many male flight attendants are homosexual, it
seems unlikely that the crew would have objected unless these two
people were engaging in some pretty unusual behavior.

Two men getting it on anywhere is diviate behavior.

d-e-v-i-a-t-e, idiot.

Shurely (sic) you mean deviant?

[Dionisio]

Post by Tim C.

Post by Newk Indofman
d-e-v-i-a-t-e, idiot.

Shurely (sic) you mean deviant?

S-h-i-r-l-y,

;-)

[mrtravel]

Post by Dionisio

Post by Tim C.

Post by Newk Indofman
d-e-v-i-a-t-e, idiot.

Shurely (sic) you mean deviant?

S-h-i-r-l-y,
;-)

S U R E L Y

And stop calling me Shirley

[Dionisio]

Post by mrtravel
S U R E L Y
And stop calling me Shirley

"Over, Under; Under, Done; Done, Over; Done, Under; Over, Done."

;-)

[Alan Moorman]

On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 11:09:28 GMT, Dionisio

Post by Dionisio

Post by Tim C.

Post by Newk Indofman
d-e-v-i-a-t-e, idiot.

Shurely (sic) you mean deviant?

S-h-i-r-l-y,
;-)

Surely you mean "Shirley" don't you?

Alan

==

It's not that I think stupidity should be punishable by death.
I just think we should take the warning labels off of everything
and let the problem take care of itself.

--------------------------------------------------------

[Strife767]

Post by Newk Indofman

Post by IranianSwine

Post by Mxsmanic

Post by No gAAys on AA
A spokesman for the airline backed up the flight crew's behavior and
said their complaints to the men had nothing to do with the fact that
they were a gay couple. "Our understanding is that the level of
affection was more than a quick peck on the cheek," he told the
magazine.

Given that a great many male flight attendants are homosexual, it
seems unlikely that the crew would have objected unless these two
people were engaging in some pretty unusual behavior.

Two men getting it on anywhere is diviate behavior.

d-e-v-i-a-t-e, idiot.

Don't be a grammar Nazi unless you can avoid making a mistake of your own
of the same type.

Grammatically speaking, the correct word there would be "deviant."

[Markku Grönroos]

Post by Strife767
Grammatically speaking, the correct word there would be "deviant."

get lost from travel forums

[Newk Indofman]

Post by Strife767

Post by Newk Indofman

Post by IranianSwine

Post by Mxsmanic

Post by No gAAys on AA
A spokesman for the airline backed up the flight crew's behavior and
said their complaints to the men had nothing to do with the fact that
they were a gay couple. "Our understanding is that the level of
affection was more than a quick peck on the cheek," he told the
magazine.

Given that a great many male flight attendants are homosexual, it
seems unlikely that the crew would have objected unless these two
people were engaging in some pretty unusual behavior.

Two men getting it on anywhere is diviate behavior.

d-e-v-i-a-t-e, idiot.

Don't be a grammar Nazi unless you can avoid making a mistake of your own
of the same type.
Grammatically speaking, the correct word there would be "deviant."

Either is correct, according to Merriam-Webster. Bitch.

[Jeff North]

On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 21:45:55 -0700, in alt.politics.homosexuality

| >
| >> A spokesman for the airline backed up the flight crew's behavior and
| >> said their complaints to the men had nothing to do with the fact that
| >> they were a gay couple. "Our understanding is that the level of
| >> affection was more than a quick peck on the cheek,” he told the
| >> magazine.
| >
| > Given that a great many male flight attendants are homosexual, it
| > seems unlikely that the crew would have objected unless these two
| > people were engaging in some pretty unusual behavior.
| >
| Two men getting it on anywhere is diviate behavior.

But two women getting it on is definitely hot, right?
---------------------------------------------------------------
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[a***@priest.com]

Call me a prude but, ANYONE getting it on in a hugely public place and in
front of a captive audience has no respect for anyone, including themselves.
Obviously their parents had no manners, either...and all before them!

Argyle

[Strife767]

Post by a***@priest.com
Call me a prude but, ANYONE getting it on in a hugely public place and in
front of a captive audience has no respect for anyone, including themselves.
Obviously their parents had no manners, either...and all before them!
Argyle

Prude. :P

[ant]

Post by a***@priest.com
Call me a prude but, ANYONE getting it on in a hugely public place
and in front of a captive audience has no respect for anyone,
including themselves. Obviously their parents had no manners,
either...and all before them!

Yep. basically naff behaviour, from any kind of couple. Low-lifes.

[Buster]

Post by Mxsmanic

Post by No gAAys on AA
A spokesman for the airline backed up the flight crew's behavior and
said their complaints to the men had nothing to do with the fact that
they were a gay couple. "Our understanding is that the level of
affection was more than a quick peck on the cheek,” he told the
magazine.

Given that a great many male flight attendants are homosexual, it
seems unlikely that the crew would have objected unless these two
people were engaging in some pretty unusual behavior.

Well that's quite the leap in assumptions, isn't it?

[EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)]

Post by Buster

Post by Mxsmanic

Post by No gAAys on AA
A spokesman for the airline backed up the flight crew's behavior and
said their complaints to the men had nothing to do with the fact that
they were a gay couple. "Our understanding is that the level of
affection was more than a quick peck on the cheek,” he told the
magazine.

Given that a great many male flight attendants are homosexual, it
seems unlikely that the crew would have objected unless these two
people were engaging in some pretty unusual behavior.

Well that's quite the leap in assumptions, isn't it?

You must be encountering Mixi for the first time! (In
rec.travel.europe he's famous for leaping to unwarranted
conclusions, then defending them to his last breath.)

[P***@aol.com]

What amazes me is that if the airlines had "strict" policies on overt
affection, every plane would be diverted.
Heterosexual couple do the same things but it is "OK" ,when a gay
couple does it its "wrong"?!
On many a flight I have taken, there have been many female
couples,(whether gay or straight, I dont know) who seem to be in
compromising positions yet its over looked.

[Newk Indofman]

Post by P***@aol.com
Heterosexual couple do the same things but it is "OK" ,when a gay
couple does it its "wrong"?!

That is generally true the world over, with just a few exceptions.

[IranianSwine]

Post by Newk Indofman

Post by P***@aol.com
Heterosexual couple do the same things but it is "OK" ,when a gay
couple does it its "wrong"?!

That is generally true the world over, with just a few exceptions.

Most of the world isn't queer. Except for the Islamic extremists who
spend a lot of time together in hiding.

[Newk Indofman]

Post by Newk Indofman

Post by P***@aol.com
Heterosexual couple do the same things but it is "OK" ,when a gay
couple does it its "wrong"?!

That is generally true the world over, with just a few exceptions.

Most of the world isn't queer. Except for the Islamic extremists who spend
a lot of time together in hiding.

Then why are you so worked up about it?

[Alan Moorman]

Post by IranianSwine

Post by Newk Indofman

Post by P***@aol.com
Heterosexual couple do the same things but it is "OK" ,when a gay
couple does it its "wrong"?!

That is generally true the world over, with just a few exceptions.

Most of the world isn't queer. Except for the Islamic extremists who
spend a lot of time together in hiding.

But, most of the world contains queers -- they're everywhere, and,
for the most part, they're just regular people.

So, get over it.



Alan Moorman

==============================================
The Bible contains six admonishments to homosexuals
and 362 admonishments to heterosexuals.
That doesn't mean that God doesn't love heterosexuals.
It's just that they need more supervision.

Lynn Lavner - as published in PFLAG

[michael]

Post by P***@aol.com
What amazes me is that if the airlines had "strict" policies on overt
affection, every plane would be diverted.
Heterosexual couple do the same things but it is "OK" ,when a gay
couple does it its "wrong"?!
On many a flight I have taken, there have been many female
couples,(whether gay or straight, I dont know) who seem to be in
compromising positions yet its over looked.

On one of my flights down to the Caribbean a few years ago there were
two women sitting in my same row, in the center seats, who spent the
whole flight kissing, hugging, and touching each other. Naturally, I
assumed they were lesbians. One would lay her head down on the
other's lap for a while and the other one would play with her hair,
then they would switch, etc. One looked about 45 years old and the
other one looked to be in her twenties. When we landed and were
standing around the carrousel waiting for our baggage I found out
they were mother and daughter. You can imagine my shock. Turns out
they flying down to catch a cruse and were travelling with the woman's
three other kids, all boys, who had been sitting further back in the
plane.

[p***@hotmail.com]

michael wrote:
[snip]

Post by michael
On one of my flights down to the Caribbean a few years ago there were
two women sitting in my same row, in the center seats, who spent the
whole flight kissing, hugging, and touching each other.

[snip]

Post by michael
they were mother and daughter.

You should write a letter to Penthouse. I bet you it would get
published.
Socks

[mrtravel]

Post by p***@hotmail.com
[snip]

Post by michael
On one of my flights down to the Caribbean a few years ago there were
two women sitting in my same row, in the center seats, who spent the
whole flight kissing, hugging, and touching each other.

[snip]

Post by michael
they were mother and daughter.

You should write a letter to Penthouse. I bet you it would get
published.
Socks

Kind of reminds me of that funny Jim Stafford song, "My Girl Bill"
After leading you on with an impression that it is about 2 guys, it ends
with: "She's my girl, Bill" (important comma. :) )

[lab~rat >:-)]

On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 15:51:31 -0400, michael

Post by michael

Post by P***@aol.com
What amazes me is that if the airlines had "strict" policies on overt
affection, every plane would be diverted.
Heterosexual couple do the same things but it is "OK" ,when a gay
couple does it its "wrong"?!
On many a flight I have taken, there have been many female
couples,(whether gay or straight, I dont know) who seem to be in
compromising positions yet its over looked.

On one of my flights down to the Caribbean a few years ago there were
two women sitting in my same row, in the center seats, who spent the
whole flight kissing, hugging, and touching each other. Naturally, I
assumed they were lesbians. One would lay her head down on the
other's lap for a while and the other one would play with her hair,
then they would switch, etc. One looked about 45 years old and the
other one looked to be in her twenties. When we landed and were
standing around the carrousel waiting for our baggage I found out
they were mother and daughter. You can imagine my shock. Turns out
they flying down to catch a cruse and were travelling with the woman's
three other kids, all boys, who had been sitting further back in the
plane.

So did that turn you on more or less?
--
lab~rat >:-)
Do you want polite or do you want sincere?

[John Smith ®]

Post by P***@aol.com
What amazes me is that if the airlines had "strict" policies on overt
affection, every plane would be diverted.
Heterosexual couple do the same things but it is "OK" ,when a gay
couple does it its "wrong"?!
On many a flight I have taken, there have been many female
couples,(whether gay or straight, I dont know) who seem to be in
compromising positions yet its over looked.

Man, I must be using the wrong airlines. My last long flight was AA, DFW to
London. A 777 packed to the gills, and not one humping couple to watch -
darn.

[bobandcarole]

Post by P***@aol.com
What amazes me is that if the airlines had "strict" policies on overt
affection, every plane would be diverted.
Heterosexual couple do the same things but it is "OK" ,when a gay
couple does it its "wrong"?!

Bingo, give that fag a Hillary Clinton Button..............

Post by P***@aol.com
On many a flight I have taken, there have been many female
couples,(whether gay or straight, I dont know) who seem to be in
compromising positions yet its over looked.

Come on, who wants to watch 2 faggot sissys sodomize each other in
public?
It's bad enough that they do it at the perversion pride parades

[Newk Indofman]

Post by bobandcarole
Come on, who wants to watch 2 faggot sissys sodomize each other in
public?
It's bad enough that they do it at the perversion pride parades

How many pride events do you attend in a typical year?

[mrtravel]

Post by Newk Indofman

Post by bobandcarole
Come on, who wants to watch 2 faggot sissys sodomize each other in
public?
It's bad enough that they do it at the perversion pride parades

How many pride events do you attend in a typical year?

LOL... I went to my first one this year, in SF, as I was doing a
promotion for a movie company, and giving away t-shirts for the movie,
"Dreamgirls".
I emerged from the BART stairwell on Market, near Powell, in time to
hear the roar of the approaching Dykes on Bikes. The press said there
were 600 motorcyles present. Shortly after this, there was a parade of
law enforcement walking hand in hand with their lovers. BART was packed,
and many crossdressers (male and female) were onboard. I was amazed by
the number of apparently straight people that had brought their
families, including those with small children on their shoulders.
I really saw no PDA's that I would have considered too risque.
I also believe that hetero couples are far more likely to be involved in
R (or better) rated PDA's in public, especially in public
non=gay-oriented places like on a scheduled carrier.
Had this been Air France, it would have been a non-issue.
The threat of flight diversion for having a disagreement with the FA
over this, is ridiculous. Disagreement with an FA is NOT a matter of
national security.

Regarding the AA issue, which seems to have had a delayed posting here.
It has been discussed for days on FlyerTalk. I doubt anything happened
on the plane, other than what was described by the 2 people involved and
the non-airline witnesses. Someone on FT knows one of the people
involved and discussed this with him.

Yeah, Nomen, I anxiously await your comments. You seem to like talking
about sex, even when it has nothing to do wiht the topic.

[bobandcarole,]

Post by Newk Indofman

Post by bobandcarole
Come on, who wants to watch 2 faggot sissys sodomize each other in
public?
It's bad enough that they do it at the perversion pride parades

How many pride events do you attend in a typical year?

None, but I've seen the pictures, have you?

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[Newk Indofman]

Post by bobandcarole,

Post by Newk Indofman

Post by bobandcarole
Come on, who wants to watch 2 faggot sissys sodomize each other in
public?
It's bad enough that they do it at the perversion pride parades

How many pride events do you attend in a typical year?

None, but I've seen the pictures, have you?

I don't see any "faggot sissys" sodomizing each other in public, do you?

[IranianSwine]

Post by Newk Indofman

Post by bobandcarole
Come on, who wants to watch 2 faggot sissys sodomize each other in
public?
It's bad enough that they do it at the perversion pride parades

How many pride events do you attend in a typical year?

Who the shit goes to see faggots except other faggots?

[JMiller]

Post by IranianSwine

Post by Newk Indofman

Post by bobandcarole
Come on, who wants to watch 2 faggot sissys sodomize each other in
public?
It's bad enough that they do it at the perversion pride parades

How many pride events do you attend in a typical year?

Who the shit goes to see faggots except other faggots?

Every year they show highlights of these Gay Pride parades, and it's
all just guys in chaps or thongs hanging out their dicks and making
out. There are never any lesbians. Oh wait, I take it back...there
are lesbians, but only the bulldyke kind dressed in Brooks Bros. suits
and big fat asses. Never the good kind of lesbians like they have in
pornos.

--
The Big Ass Broadcast
www.bigassbroadcast.com
The biggest internet radio show in the world.

[Strife767]

Post by JMiller
the good kind of lesbians like they have in
pornos.

Glad to burst your bubble, but those women aren't lesbians. Just playing
the part for money.

[EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)]

Post by Strife767

Post by JMiller
the good kind of lesbians like they have in
pornos.

Glad to burst your bubble, but those women aren't lesbians. Just
playing the part for money.

.....And you know this how?

[Strife767]

On Sat, 23 Sep 2006 13:34:32 -0400, EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)

Post by EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)

Post by Strife767

Post by JMiller
the good kind of lesbians like they have in
pornos.

Glad to burst your bubble, but those women aren't lesbians. Just
playing the part for money.

.....And you know this how?

Watch almost any documentary on "the lives of porn stars" or something
like that, and you'll see what I mean.

[Borked Pseudo Mailed]

Post by Strife767

Post by JMiller
the good kind of lesbians like they have in
pornos.

Glad to burst your bubble, but those women aren't lesbians. Just playing
the part for money.

Does Brandy Alexandre have any lesbian scenes in her porn flics?

If so, with which other actresses?

[Matthew]

"Borked Pseudo Mailed" <***@pseudo.borked.net>

No one cares she does not post in the cat groups anymore. Her cat passed
away awhile ago
So no one in the cats groups could give a care

[Newk Indofman]

Post by IranianSwine

Post by Newk Indofman

Post by bobandcarole
Come on, who wants to watch 2 faggot sissys sodomize each other in
public?
It's bad enough that they do it at the perversion pride parades

How many pride events do you attend in a typical year?

Who the shit goes to see faggots except other faggots?

Exactly my point, Einstein.

[PeterL]

Post by P***@aol.com
What amazes me is that if the airlines had "strict" policies on overt
affection, every plane would be diverted.
Heterosexual couple do the same things but it is "OK" ,when a gay
couple does it its "wrong"?!

How do you know it's the "same thing"? Unless you were there observing
the behavior there is no way any of us here know what the behavior was.

Post by P***@aol.com
On many a flight I have taken, there have been many female
couples,(whether gay or straight, I dont know) who seem to be in
compromising positions yet its over looked.

You certainly travel in very different company than I. The most I ever
noticed was loud snoring.

[IranianSwine]

Post by P***@aol.com
What amazes me is that if the airlines had "strict" policies on overt
affection, every plane would be diverted.
Heterosexual couple do the same things but it is "OK" ,when a gay
couple does it its "wrong"?!
On many a flight I have taken, there have been many female
couples,(whether gay or straight, I dont know) who seem to be in
compromising positions yet its over looked.

Of course it is wrong for a couple of fags to get into foreplay on an
airplane. Children could see that and grow up believing the whole world
is fucking nuts. If fudge packers get in your face, they should get
slapped silly.

[Zooropa]

Post by IranianSwine

Post by P***@aol.com
What amazes me is that if the airlines had "strict" policies on overt
affection, every plane would be diverted.
Heterosexual couple do the same things but it is "OK" ,when a gay
couple does it its "wrong"?!
On many a flight I have taken, there have been many female
couples,(whether gay or straight, I dont know) who seem to be in
compromising positions yet its over looked.

Of course it is wrong for a couple of fags to get into foreplay on an
airplane. Children could see that and grow up believing the whole world
is fucking nuts.

Or they could grow up to believe it's ok to be gay...LOL

For the record I don't see any reason why people feel the need to get
very sexual in front of anyone else (talking in general)...It offends
some people, so don't do it, it's not something you'll die with out.

[Mxsmanic]

Post by Zooropa
For the record I don't see any reason why people feel the need to get
very sexual in front of anyone else (talking in general)...It offends
some people, so don't do it, it's not something you'll die with out.

Some people are excited by exhibitionism.

[Strife767]

Post by IranianSwine

Post by P***@aol.com
What amazes me is that if the airlines had "strict" policies on overt
affection, every plane would be diverted.
Heterosexual couple do the same things but it is "OK" ,when a gay
couple does it its "wrong"?!
On many a flight I have taken, there have been many female
couples,(whether gay or straight, I dont know) who seem to be in
compromising positions yet its over looked.

Of course it is wrong for a couple of fags to get into foreplay on an
airplane. Children could see that and grow up believing the whole world
is fucking nuts. If fudge packers get in your face, they should get
slapped silly.

And do you feel exactly the same way about a hetero couple doing the exact
same thing?

[Gooserider]

Post by P***@aol.com
What amazes me is that if the airlines had "strict" policies on overt
affection, every plane would be diverted.
Heterosexual couple do the same things but it is "OK" ,when a gay
couple does it its "wrong"?!
On many a flight I have taken, there have been many female
couples,(whether gay or straight, I dont know) who seem to be in
compromising positions yet its over looked.

That's because heterosexual affection is normal. I would not want to have to
explain to my 8 year old why those two men were making out. Tolerance and
acceptance are two different things, you know.

[Jeff North]

On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 09:29:59 GMT, in alt.politics.homosexuality

|
| > What amazes me is that if the airlines had "strict" policies on overt
| > affection, every plane would be diverted.
| > Heterosexual couple do the same things but it is "OK" ,when a gay
| > couple does it its "wrong"?!
| > On many a flight I have taken, there have been many female
| > couples,(whether gay or straight, I dont know) who seem to be in
| > compromising positions yet its over looked.
|
| That's because heterosexual affection is normal. I would not want to have to
| explain to my 8 year old why those two men were making out. Tolerance and
| acceptance are two different things, you know.

But you'd have no problem if it were two women making out!
---------------------------------------------------------------
***@yourpantsyahoo.com.au : Remove your pants to reply
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[lab~rat >:-)]

Post by Jeff North
On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 09:29:59 GMT, in alt.politics.homosexuality

|
| > What amazes me is that if the airlines had "strict" policies on overt
| > affection, every plane would be diverted.
| > Heterosexual couple do the same things but it is "OK" ,when a gay
| > couple does it its "wrong"?!
| > On many a flight I have taken, there have been many female
| > couples,(whether gay or straight, I dont know) who seem to be in
| > compromising positions yet its over looked.
|
| That's because heterosexual affection is normal. I would not want to have to
| explain to my 8 year old why those two men were making out. Tolerance and
| acceptance are two different things, you know.

But you'd have no problem if it were two women making out!

I would if my kids were sitting next to me. There is a time and a
place for everything.
--
lab~rat >:-)
Do you want polite or do you want sincere?

[Jeff North]

On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 13:06:00 GMT, in alt.politics.homosexuality

|
| >On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 09:29:59 GMT, in alt.politics.homosexuality
| >
| >>|
| >>| > What amazes me is that if the airlines had "strict" policies on overt
| >>| > affection, every plane would be diverted.
| >>| > Heterosexual couple do the same things but it is "OK" ,when a gay
| >>| > couple does it its "wrong"?!
| >>| > On many a flight I have taken, there have been many female
| >>| > couples,(whether gay or straight, I dont know) who seem to be in
| >>| > compromising positions yet its over looked.
| >>|
| >>| That's because heterosexual affection is normal. I would not want to have to
| >>| explain to my 8 year old why those two men were making out. Tolerance and
| >>| acceptance are two different things, you know.
| >
| >But you'd have no problem if it were two women making out!
|
| I would if my kids were sitting next to me.

Love the caveat....and if your kids were NOT sitting next to you?

| There is a time and a place for everything.

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[Newk Indofman]

Post by Gooserider

Post by P***@aol.com
What amazes me is that if the airlines had "strict" policies on overt
affection, every plane would be diverted.
Heterosexual couple do the same things but it is "OK" ,when a gay
couple does it its "wrong"?!
On many a flight I have taken, there have been many female
couples,(whether gay or straight, I dont know) who seem to be in
compromising positions yet its over looked.

That's because heterosexual affection is normal.

Says who?

[EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)]

Post by Gooserider

Post by P***@aol.com
What amazes me is that if the airlines had "strict" policies on overt
affection, every plane would be diverted.
Heterosexual couple do the same things but it is "OK" ,when a gay
couple does it its "wrong"?!
On many a flight I have taken, there have been many female
couples,(whether gay or straight, I dont know) who seem to be in
compromising positions yet its over looked.

That's because heterosexual affection is normal. I would not want to have to
explain to my 8 year old why those two men were making out. Tolerance and
acceptance are two different things, you know.

Unless your 8 year old has spent those eight years in an
isolation bubble, he/she probably knows more about it than
you do! (Kids tend to overhear grown-up talk and observe
grown-up actions more than their parents realize - and are
not reticent about sharing with their friends.)

[Strife767]

On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 05:29:59 -0400, Gooserider

Post by Gooserider

Post by P***@aol.com
What amazes me is that if the airlines had "strict" policies on overt
affection, every plane would be diverted.
Heterosexual couple do the same things but it is "OK" ,when a gay
couple does it its "wrong"?!
On many a flight I have taken, there have been many female
couples,(whether gay or straight, I dont know) who seem to be in
compromising positions yet its over looked.

That's because heterosexual affection is normal.

Affection has no orientation.

Post by Gooserider
I would not want to have to
explain to my 8 year old why those two men were making out.

Pussy.

Post by Gooserider
Tolerance and
acceptance are two different things, you know.

To not accept something for no other reason than because it's different is
to be a bigot.

[V]

Post by P***@aol.com
What amazes me is that if the airlines had "strict" policies on overt
affection, every plane would be diverted.
Heterosexual couple do the same things but it is "OK" ,when a gay
couple does it its "wrong"?!
On many a flight I have taken, there have been many female
couples,(whether gay or straight, I dont know) who seem to be in
compromising positions yet its over looked.

Yes, the whole "mile high club" thing....
and yes, Lesbians can get away with it a lot more easily....
and do....




--
"I remember how the meaning of words began to change. I remember how
"different" became dangerous. I still don't understand it, why they hate
us so much. ...the first time we kissed I knew I never wanted to kiss any
other lips but hers again... She grew Scarlet Carsons for me in our
window box and our place always smelt of roses. Those were the best years
of my life...for three years I had roses, and apologized to no one"
Valerie, in "V for Vendetta"

[lab~rat >:-)]

Post by P***@aol.com
What amazes me is that if the airlines had "strict" policies on overt
affection, every plane would be diverted.
Heterosexual couple do the same things but it is "OK" ,when a gay
couple does it its "wrong"?!

My guess is that if someone complained about the normal couple, they
would be asked to stop as well. Do you disagree with me?

Post by P***@aol.com
On many a flight I have taken, there have been many female
couples,(whether gay or straight, I dont know) who seem to be in
compromising positions yet its over looked.

--
lab~rat >:-)
Do you want polite or do you want sincere?

[curtsybear]

["Followup-To:" header set to alt.politics.homosexuality.]

Post by lab~rat >:-)

Post by P***@aol.com
What amazes me is that if the airlines had "strict" policies on overt
affection, every plane would be diverted.
Heterosexual couple do the same things but it is "OK" ,when a gay
couple does it its "wrong"?!

My guess is that if someone complained about the normal couple, they
would be asked to stop as well. Do you disagree with me?

I'll try it on my next flight. Every five minutes I'll ring the
call and when the FA comes over, I'll complain about some opposite-sex
couple who is sharing their pretzels or sitting too close or doesn't
have the armrest down to separate them. Perhaps I'll just complain
loudly about a fat woman and say that I don't need to keep seeing
pregnant women shoving their sex lives in everyone's faces and could
she be covered up with a blanket for the duration of the flight or
something.

[Runge]

that must be newportman crap again

Post by No gAAys on AA
http://www.advocate.com/news_detail_ektid36619.asp
September 20, 2006
American Airlines rebukes gay couple
An American Airlines captain reportedly threatened to divert a flight
from Paris to New York after a gay couple complained about how they
were treated by the flight crew, The New Yorker reported on Monday.
According to a "Talk of the Town" item in the magazine's September 25
issue, now posted on its Web site, TV journalist George Tsikhiseli and
his boyfriend of four months, writer Stephan Varnier, were told by a
stewardess to stop their "touching and the kissing" not long into
American Airlines Flight 45 from Charles de Gaulle to JFK on August
22. The couple said they were doing nothing inappropriate-perhaps a
peck on the cheek, a head on the other's shoulder-a story backed up by
the two passengers seated behind them and another across the aisle.
When they asked to see the purser-whom the stewardess claimed had
issued the order-the purser said she knew nothing about the incident
and initially agreed that their behavior had not been inappropriate,
the men and witnesses reported. But she returned later to say that
other passengers had complained about the men's affectionate gestures.
When the gay couple asked who had complained, asked to speak with an
American Airlines representative upon landing, and asked for the
stewardess's name and employee number, the purser told them to drop
the matter or the flight would be diverted, the magazine reported.
An hour later, the purser asked Tsikhiseli to meet the captain in a
galley, and the captain repeated the threat to divert the airplane if
the men continued to "argue" with the crew, according to The New
Yorker.
A spokesman for the airline backed up the flight crew's behavior and
said their complaints to the men had nothing to do with the fact that
they were a gay couple. "Our understanding is that the level of
affection was more than a quick peck on the cheek," he told the
magazine.

[B***@yahoo.com]

Post by No gAAys on AA
http://www.advocate.com/news_detail_ektid36619.asp
September 20, 2006
American Airlines rebukes gay couple
An American Airlines captain reportedly threatened to divert a flight
from Paris to New York after a gay couple complained about how they
were treated by the flight crew, The New Yorker reported on Monday.
According to a "Talk of the Town" item in the magazine's September 25
issue, now posted on its Web site, TV journalist George Tsikhiseli and
his boyfriend of four months, writer Stephan Varnier, were told by a
stewardess to stop their "touching and the kissing" not long into
American Airlines Flight 45 from Charles de Gaulle to JFK on August
22. The couple said they were doing nothing inappropriate-perhaps a
peck on the cheek, a head on the other's shoulder-a story backed up by
the two passengers seated behind them and another across the aisle.
When they asked to see the purser-whom the stewardess claimed had
issued the order-the purser said she knew nothing about the incident
and initially agreed that their behavior had not been inappropriate,
the men and witnesses reported. But she returned later to say that
other passengers had complained about the men's affectionate gestures.
When the gay couple asked who had complained, asked to speak with an
American Airlines representative upon landing, and asked for the
stewardess's name and employee number, the purser told them to drop
the matter or the flight would be diverted, the magazine reported.
An hour later, the purser asked Tsikhiseli to meet the captain in a
galley, and the captain repeated the threat to divert the airplane if
the men continued to "argue" with the crew, according to The New
Yorker.
A spokesman for the airline backed up the flight crew's behavior and
said their complaints to the men had nothing to do with the fact that
they were a gay couple. "Our understanding is that the level of
affection was more than a quick peck on the cheek," he told the
magazine.

OK. This is HUGE news. I would sue the hell out of AA if this is true.
I hope the gay couple has witnesses and would be willing to testify in
behalf of them. The more the better.

Bill Hewlett

[Wull]

What a bunch of crap. I thought the scenario was that what people do in the
privacy of their own home (uncontested) is what gay people desire. I agree
with that 100%. Doing anything in poor taste out in public by any couples
should be frowned upon. I don't think anyone alive would object to private
affairs, except maybe a few religious fanatics.

Wull--who is very old fashioned.

Post by B***@yahoo.com

Post by No gAAys on AA
http://www.advocate.com/news_detail_ektid36619.asp
September 20, 2006
American Airlines rebukes gay couple
An American Airlines captain reportedly threatened to divert a flight
from Paris to New York after a gay couple complained about how they
were treated by the flight crew, The New Yorker reported on Monday.
According to a "Talk of the Town" item in the magazine's September 25
issue, now posted on its Web site, TV journalist George Tsikhiseli and
his boyfriend of four months, writer Stephan Varnier, were told by a
stewardess to stop their "touching and the kissing" not long into
American Airlines Flight 45 from Charles de Gaulle to JFK on August
22. The couple said they were doing nothing inappropriate-perhaps a
peck on the cheek, a head on the other's shoulder-a story backed up by
the two passengers seated behind them and another across the aisle.
When they asked to see the purser-whom the stewardess claimed had
issued the order-the purser said she knew nothing about the incident
and initially agreed that their behavior had not been inappropriate,
the men and witnesses reported. But she returned later to say that
other passengers had complained about the men's affectionate gestures.
When the gay couple asked who had complained, asked to speak with an
American Airlines representative upon landing, and asked for the
stewardess's name and employee number, the purser told them to drop
the matter or the flight would be diverted, the magazine reported.
An hour later, the purser asked Tsikhiseli to meet the captain in a
galley, and the captain repeated the threat to divert the airplane if
the men continued to "argue" with the crew, according to The New
Yorker.
A spokesman for the airline backed up the flight crew's behavior and
said their complaints to the men had nothing to do with the fact that
they were a gay couple. "Our understanding is that the level of
affection was more than a quick peck on the cheek," he told the
magazine.

OK. This is HUGE news. I would sue the hell out of AA if this is true.
I hope the gay couple has witnesses and would be willing to testify in
behalf of them. The more the better.
Bill Hewlett

[EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)]

Post by Wull
What a bunch of crap. I thought the scenario was that what people do in the
privacy of their own home (uncontested) is what gay people desire. I agree
with that 100%. Doing anything in poor taste out in public by any couples
should be frowned upon. I don't think anyone alive would object to private
affairs, except maybe a few religious fanatics.

Ummmm.... first define "poor taste". Agreed, overt
expressions of affection between gay men might make some
heterosexuals uncomfortable, but so what? Fifty or so years
ago, people didn't perceive "sexual content" whenever people
showed affection for one another - same sex couples or not.
(And before people became so self-conscious about how
others might perceive them, there was usually nothing
"sexual" about it.)

[(PeteCresswell)]

Post by EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)
Ummmm.... first define "poor taste". Agreed, overt
expressions of affection between gay men might make some
heterosexuals uncomfortable, but so what? Fifty or so years
ago, people didn't perceive "sexual content" whenever people
showed affection for one another - same sex couples or not.
(And before people became so self-conscious about how
others might perceive them, there was usually nothing
"sexual" about it.)

OTOH, there's the more general idea of not publicly enjoying something that you
have and the people around you don't.

Probably long-forgotten by now, but it used to be impolite to consume food in
public without offering some to those nearby.

Putting aside any sexual/gender mores, making out in public would seem to fit
the same pattern as enjoying food....

[IranianSwine]

Post by (PeteCresswell)

Post by EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)
Ummmm.... first define "poor taste". Agreed, overt
expressions of affection between gay men might make some
heterosexuals uncomfortable, but so what? Fifty or so years
ago, people didn't perceive "sexual content" whenever people
showed affection for one another - same sex couples or not.
(And before people became so self-conscious about how
others might perceive them, there was usually nothing
"sexual" about it.)

OTOH, there's the more general idea of not publicly enjoying something that you
have and the people around you don't.
Probably long-forgotten by now, but it used to be impolite to consume food in
public without offering some to those nearby.
Putting aside any sexual/gender mores, making out in public would seem to fit
the same pattern as enjoying food....

So you give rim jobs?

[IranianSwine]

Post by Wull
What a bunch of crap. I thought the scenario was that what people do
in the privacy of their own home (uncontested) is what gay people
desire. I agree with that 100%. Doing anything in poor taste out in
public by any couples should be frowned upon. I don't think anyone
alive would object to private affairs, except maybe a few religious
fanatics.

Ummmm.... first define "poor taste". Agreed, overt expressions of
affection between gay men might make some heterosexuals uncomfortable,
but so what? Fifty or so years ago, people didn't perceive "sexual
content" whenever people showed affection for one another - same sex
couples or not. (And before people became so self-conscious about how
others might perceive them, there was usually nothing "sexual" about it.)

Because homos are pretty disease ridden. It's like seeing a roach in a
restaurant.

[Strife767]

Post by IranianSwine

Post by Wull
What a bunch of crap. I thought the scenario was that what people do
in the privacy of their own home (uncontested) is what gay people
desire. I agree with that 100%. Doing anything in poor taste out in
public by any couples should be frowned upon. I don't think anyone
alive would object to private affairs, except maybe a few religious
fanatics.

Ummmm.... first define "poor taste". Agreed, overt expressions of
affection between gay men might make some heterosexuals uncomfortable,
but so what? Fifty or so years ago, people didn't perceive "sexual
content" whenever people showed affection for one another - same sex
couples or not. (And before people became so self-conscious about how
others might perceive them, there was usually nothing "sexual" about it.)

Because homos are pretty disease ridden.

No, they aren't. There are millions and millions of homosexuals in the
USA, and how many AIDS cases were there last year for MSM? Less than
18,000. More people die from flu annually than get AIDS. And _that_
doesn't even count the lesbians, who are practically _immune_ to spreading
STDs through typical sexual contact.

You need to learn some math.

Post by IranianSwine
It's like seeing a roach in a restaurant.

I don't have the time to point out just how inaccurate a metaphor that is.

[Alan Moorman]

Post by Wull
What a bunch of crap. I thought the scenario was that what people do in the
privacy of their own home (uncontested) is what gay people desire. I agree
with that 100%. Doing anything in poor taste out in public by any couples
should be frowned upon. I don't think anyone alive would object to private
affairs, except maybe a few religious fanatics.
Wull--who is very old fashioned.

I agree that it might have been in bad taste.

But, can you EVER expect the cabin crew to come talk to a hetero
couple for kissing a bit? I've been on flights where that happened
a lot, and non of the crew even blinked an eye.

So, there is NO justification for what went on regarding the two men.

NONE.




Alan Moorman

==============================================
The Bible contains six admonishments to homosexuals
and 362 admonishments to heterosexuals.
That doesn't mean that God doesn't love heterosexuals.
It's just that they need more supervision.

Lynn Lavner - as published in PFLAG

[Markku Grönroos]

go away from rte

Post by Alan Moorman

Post by Wull
What a bunch of crap. I thought the scenario was that what people do in the
privacy of their own home (uncontested) is what gay people desire. I agree
with that 100%. Doing anything in poor taste out in public by any couples
should be frowned upon. I don't think anyone alive would object to private
affairs, except maybe a few religious fanatics.
Wull--who is very old fashioned.

I agree that it might have been in bad taste.
But, can you EVER expect the cabin crew to come talk to a hetero
couple for kissing a bit? I've been on flights where that happened
a lot, and non of the crew even blinked an eye.
So, there is NO justification for what went on regarding the two men.
NONE.
Alan Moorman
==============================================
The Bible contains six admonishments to homosexuals
and 362 admonishments to heterosexuals.
That doesn't mean that God doesn't love heterosexuals.
It's just that they need more supervision.
Lynn Lavner - as published in PFLAG

[mrtravel]

Post by B***@yahoo.com
OK. This is HUGE news. I would sue the hell out of AA if this is true.
I hope the gay couple has witnesses and would be willing to testify in
behalf of them. The more the better.

What would the lawsuit be based on? There is no US law preventing FA's
discriminating based on sexual preference.

[lab~rat >:-)]

Post by mrtravel

Post by B***@yahoo.com
OK. This is HUGE news. I would sue the hell out of AA if this is true.
I hope the gay couple has witnesses and would be willing to testify in
behalf of them. The more the better.

What would the lawsuit be based on? There is no US law preventing FA's
discriminating based on sexual preference.

And that hasn't been proven. If there was a heterosexual couple on
the same flight doing the same thing and they weren't asked to stop,
MAYBE then there would be some argument.

Bottom line is that if a heterosexual couple were asked to stop,
chances are more than good that it wouldn't have escalated into some
type of psuedo-Rosa Parks like discrimination crusade. They would
have quietly stopped, end of story, no one hurt.

Gays can be their own worst enemies with stories like this...
--
lab~rat >:-)
Do you want polite or do you want sincere?

[Strife767]

Post by lab~rat >:-)
And that hasn't been proven. If there was a heterosexual couple on
the same flight doing the same thing and they weren't asked to stop,
MAYBE then there would be some argument.
Bottom line is that if a heterosexual couple were asked to stop,
chances are more than good that it wouldn't have escalated into some
type of psuedo-Rosa Parks like discrimination crusade. They would
have quietly stopped, end of story, no one hurt.

I see "if" a lot up there. Of course, since no one ever complains about a
hetero couple doing that kind of thing, you'd never know, would you? Just
that fact alone (the lack of complaint against heterosexuals) says a lot.

[p***@gmail.com]

Post by Strife767
I see "if" a lot up there. Of course, since no one ever complains about a
hetero couple doing that kind of thing, you'd never know, would you? Just
that fact alone (the lack of complaint against heterosexuals) says a lot.

The "lack of" explains what?!

Thats like saying "I completely agree with what he didn't say". Come
on...

To the great majority of the world 2 homosexuals engaging in anything
other than light chit-chat is going to bring some negative attention.
Rightly so, if it is NOT the norm, then it is to be expected that it
will not be treated as normal.

I am not understanding how this turns into something about how gays
should be treated equal and how they were mistreated and blah, blah...

Heck, we don't treat a lot of people equal, so why start with
homosexuals?

They choose to do what they do, so why should "their" decision affect
"me". If I made a decision in my life that offended them, and then
tried to push it on them, they would be the first to speak out loudest
I am sure.

Me wonders if they didn't cry so much for news headlines and attention,
they'd probably get farther.

[B***@yahoo.com]

Post by p***@gmail.com
To the great majority of the world 2 homosexuals engaging in anything
other than light chit-chat is going to bring some negative attention.
Rightly so, if it is NOT the norm, then it is to be expected that it
will not be treated as normal.
I am not understanding how this turns into something about how gays
should be treated equal and how they were mistreated and blah, blah...
Heck, we don't treat a lot of people equal, so why start with
homosexuals?

Fuck you, bitch or asshole. You would love to be treated horribly too,
wouldn't you? Do not fucking complain when you get treated unfairly.
Kapish, asshole? Once again, this is America, jack. Like I told the
other asshole (labrat), if you find even the lightest homosexual PDA
offensive, turn the cheek. Who the fuck do you think you are to judge
what is "norm?"

[snipping the rest of it's bullshit nonsense. blah blah blah]

Bill Hewlett

[Strife767]

Post by p***@gmail.com

Post by Strife767
I see "if" a lot up there. Of course, since no one ever complains about a
hetero couple doing that kind of thing, you'd never know, would you? Just
that fact alone (the lack of complaint against heterosexuals) says a lot.

The "lack of" explains what?!

It suggests strongly that the complaints were based on the sexual
orientation of the people involved.

If someone complains about two guys doing something, but doesn't complain
about a guy and a girl doing the same thing, doesn't that tell you
something about that person?

Just shooting down his attempt at making homosexuals look bad by saying
"well, if someone complained about me, I wouldn't make a big deal about
it." The fact that that situation _is_ hypothetical says a lot all by
itself.

Post by p***@gmail.com
Thats like saying "I completely agree with what he didn't say". Come
on...

What?

Post by p***@gmail.com
To the great majority of the world 2 homosexuals engaging in anything
other than light chit-chat is going to bring some negative attention.

Anyone can dislike it if they want. But no one is forced to watch them,
and it's not like they were fucking in the aisle or something.

Post by p***@gmail.com
Rightly so, if it is NOT the norm, then it is to be expected that it
will not be treated as normal.

That doesn't make it right to give people shit for doing something just
because of their sexual orientation (since no one gives male/female
couples a hard time for doing the exact same things).

Post by p***@gmail.com
I am not understanding how this turns into something about how gays
should be treated equal and how they were mistreated and blah, blah...

Pay more attention, then.

Post by p***@gmail.com
Heck, we don't treat a lot of people equal, so why start with
homosexuals?

How retarded. So, you'd rather do more wrong than try to fix mistakes?

Post by p***@gmail.com
They choose to do what they do, so why should "their" decision affect
"me".

Don't ask me, ask the people who whined about this stuff on the plane.

Post by p***@gmail.com
If I made a decision in my life that offended them,

False analogy. Homosexuality is not a choice.

Post by p***@gmail.com
and then
tried to push it on them,

Do you consider a guy and girl kissing in public to be pushing
heterosexuality on others? If not, then you're being a hypocrite.

Post by p***@gmail.com
they would be the first to speak out loudest
I am sure.

But what does it matter, when you start with two unfair comparisons?

[Newk Indofman]

Post by p***@gmail.com

Post by Strife767
I see "if" a lot up there. Of course, since no one ever complains about a
hetero couple doing that kind of thing, you'd never know, would you? Just
that fact alone (the lack of complaint against heterosexuals) says a lot.

The "lack of" explains what?!
Thats like saying "I completely agree with what he didn't say". Come
on...
To the great majority of the world 2 homosexuals engaging in anything
other than light chit-chat is going to bring some negative attention.
Rightly so, if it is NOT the norm, then it is to be expected that it
will not be treated as normal.

It may not be "the norm", but so what? Are we all lemming clones in this
country? Gay couples expressing affection publicly is normal for them.

[IranianSwine]

Post by B***@yahoo.com

Post by No gAAys on AA
http://www.advocate.com/news_detail_ektid36619.asp
September 20, 2006
American Airlines rebukes gay couple
An American Airlines captain reportedly threatened to divert a flight
from Paris to New York after a gay couple complained about how they
were treated by the flight crew, The New Yorker reported on Monday.
According to a "Talk of the Town" item in the magazine's September 25
issue, now posted on its Web site, TV journalist George Tsikhiseli and
his boyfriend of four months, writer Stephan Varnier, were told by a
stewardess to stop their "touching and the kissing" not long into
American Airlines Flight 45 from Charles de Gaulle to JFK on August
22. The couple said they were doing nothing inappropriate-perhaps a
peck on the cheek, a head on the other's shoulder-a story backed up by
the two passengers seated behind them and another across the aisle.
When they asked to see the purser-whom the stewardess claimed had
issued the order-the purser said she knew nothing about the incident
and initially agreed that their behavior had not been inappropriate,
the men and witnesses reported. But she returned later to say that
other passengers had complained about the men's affectionate gestures.
When the gay couple asked who had complained, asked to speak with an
American Airlines representative upon landing, and asked for the
stewardess's name and employee number, the purser told them to drop
the matter or the flight would be diverted, the magazine reported.
An hour later, the purser asked Tsikhiseli to meet the captain in a
galley, and the captain repeated the threat to divert the airplane if
the men continued to "argue" with the crew, according to The New
Yorker.
A spokesman for the airline backed up the flight crew's behavior and
said their complaints to the men had nothing to do with the fact that
they were a gay couple. "Our understanding is that the level of
affection was more than a quick peck on the cheek," he told the
magazine.

OK. This is HUGE news. I would sue the hell out of AA if this is true.
I hope the gay couple has witnesses and would be willing to testify in
behalf of them. The more the better.
Bill Hewlett

Oh yeah, intimidate the airlines, tell them you'll never fly with them
again unless you can butt fuck your boyfriend of the hour.

[lab~rat >:-)]

Post by B***@yahoo.com

Post by No gAAys on AA
http://www.advocate.com/news_detail_ektid36619.asp
September 20, 2006
American Airlines rebukes gay couple
An American Airlines captain reportedly threatened to divert a flight
from Paris to New York after a gay couple complained about how they
were treated by the flight crew, The New Yorker reported on Monday.
According to a "Talk of the Town" item in the magazine's September 25
issue, now posted on its Web site, TV journalist George Tsikhiseli and
his boyfriend of four months, writer Stephan Varnier, were told by a
stewardess to stop their "touching and the kissing" not long into
American Airlines Flight 45 from Charles de Gaulle to JFK on August
22. The couple said they were doing nothing inappropriate-perhaps a
peck on the cheek, a head on the other's shoulder-a story backed up by
the two passengers seated behind them and another across the aisle.
When they asked to see the purser-whom the stewardess claimed had
issued the order-the purser said she knew nothing about the incident
and initially agreed that their behavior had not been inappropriate,
the men and witnesses reported. But she returned later to say that
other passengers had complained about the men's affectionate gestures.
When the gay couple asked who had complained, asked to speak with an
American Airlines representative upon landing, and asked for the
stewardess's name and employee number, the purser told them to drop
the matter or the flight would be diverted, the magazine reported.
An hour later, the purser asked Tsikhiseli to meet the captain in a
galley, and the captain repeated the threat to divert the airplane if
the men continued to "argue" with the crew, according to The New
Yorker.
A spokesman for the airline backed up the flight crew's behavior and
said their complaints to the men had nothing to do with the fact that
they were a gay couple. "Our understanding is that the level of
affection was more than a quick peck on the cheek," he told the
magazine.

OK. This is HUGE news. I would sue the hell out of AA if this is true.
I hope the gay couple has witnesses and would be willing to testify in
behalf of them. The more the better.

I would imagine that it would have something to do with a code of
conduct and the way that it is to be handled by the company, and they
would have to prove that it hasn't been handled uniformly.

There is a possibility that another passenger complained. If that
were the case, what do you think that the flight attendant was
obligated to do?
--
lab~rat >:-)
Do you want polite or do you want sincere?

[mrtravel]

Post by lab~rat >:-)
There is a possibility that another passenger complained. If that
were the case, what do you think that the flight attendant was
obligated to do?

Nothing. Not all complaints are valid

[lab~rat >:-)]

Post by No gAAys on AA
http://www.advocate.com/news_detail_ektid36619.asp
September 20, 2006
American Airlines rebukes gay couple
An American Airlines captain reportedly threatened to divert a flight
from Paris to New York after a gay couple complained about how they
were treated by the flight crew, The New Yorker reported on Monday.
According to a "Talk of the Town" item in the magazine's September 25
issue, now posted on its Web site, TV journalist George Tsikhiseli and
his boyfriend of four months, writer Stephan Varnier, were told by a
stewardess to stop their "touching and the kissing" not long into
American Airlines Flight 45 from Charles de Gaulle to JFK on August
22. The couple said they were doing nothing inappropriate—perhaps a
peck on the cheek, a head on the other's shoulder—a story backed up by
the two passengers seated behind them and another across the aisle.
When they asked to see the purser—whom the stewardess claimed had
issued the order—the purser said she knew nothing about the incident
and initially agreed that their behavior had not been inappropriate,
the men and witnesses reported. But she returned later to say that
other passengers had complained about the men's affectionate gestures.
When the gay couple asked who had complained, asked to speak with an
American Airlines representative upon landing, and asked for the
stewardess's name and employee number, the purser told them to drop
the matter or the flight would be diverted, the magazine reported.
An hour later, the purser asked Tsikhiseli to meet the captain in a
galley, and the captain repeated the threat to divert the airplane if
the men continued to "argue" with the crew, according to The New
Yorker.
A spokesman for the airline backed up the flight crew's behavior and
said their complaints to the men had nothing to do with the fact that
they were a gay couple. "Our understanding is that the level of
affection was more than a quick peck on the cheek,” he told the
magazine.

Just curious, if it were a normal couple, do you think the couple
would have a hissy fit like this?

This is exactly why gays think they're victims, they create the
situation themselves. If I were doing the same with my wife on a plane
and the stewardess commented on it, I would think that my actions were
making someone else feel uncomfortable AND I'D SHOW SOME FREAKING
CONSIDERATION FOR OTHERS AROUND ME. But no, it's a big deal because
these gay dorks want to make it a big deal.

Now AA will probably get sued by these assholes and a big public
awareness campaign will be instituted and whatnot because of two
jerkoffs that don't know how to be courteous in public.
--
lab~rat >:-)
Do you want polite or do you want sincere?

[B***@yahoo.com]

Post by lab~rat >:-)

Post by No gAAys on AA
http://www.advocate.com/news_detail_ektid36619.asp
September 20, 2006
American Airlines rebukes gay couple
An American Airlines captain reportedly threatened to divert a flight
from Paris to New York after a gay couple complained about how they
were treated by the flight crew, The New Yorker reported on Monday.
According to a "Talk of the Town" item in the magazine's September 25
issue, now posted on its Web site, TV journalist George Tsikhiseli and
his boyfriend of four months, writer Stephan Varnier, were told by a
stewardess to stop their "touching and the kissing" not long into
American Airlines Flight 45 from Charles de Gaulle to JFK on August
22. The couple said they were doing nothing inappropriateÑperhaps a
peck on the cheek, a head on the other's shoulderÑa story backed up by
the two passengers seated behind them and another across the aisle.
When they asked to see the purserÑwhom the stewardess claimed had
issued the orderÑthe purser said she knew nothing about the incident
and initially agreed that their behavior had not been inappropriate,
the men and witnesses reported. But she returned later to say that
other passengers had complained about the men's affectionate gestures.
When the gay couple asked who had complained, asked to speak with an
American Airlines representative upon landing, and asked for the
stewardess's name and employee number, the purser told them to drop
the matter or the flight would be diverted, the magazine reported.
An hour later, the purser asked Tsikhiseli to meet the captain in a
galley, and the captain repeated the threat to divert the airplane if
the men continued to "argue" with the crew, according to The New
Yorker.
A spokesman for the airline backed up the flight crew's behavior and
said their complaints to the men had nothing to do with the fact that
they were a gay couple. "Our understanding is that the level of
affection was more than a quick peck on the cheek,Ó he told the
magazine.

Just curious, if it were a normal couple, do you think the couple
would have a hissy fit like this?
This is exactly why gays think they're victims, they create the
situation themselves. If I were doing the same with my wife on a plane
and the stewardess commented on it, I would think that my actions were
making someone else feel uncomfortable AND I'D SHOW SOME FREAKING
CONSIDERATION FOR OTHERS AROUND ME. But no, it's a big deal because
these gay dorks want to make it a big deal.

Bullshit. If it were a heterosexual couple showing light PDA (not even
mild), realistically, this situation would not even be an issue.
However since it is a gay couple showing light PDA, "we're gonna step
all over your toes."

Yes, gay or heterosexual, if they behaved with excessive PDA, they
should be thrown off the plane. However, I don't believe such was the
case. So you can fucking stop whining about your Goddamned courtesy
call.

Bill Hewlett

[lab~rat >:-)]

Post by B***@yahoo.com

Post by lab~rat >:-)

Post by No gAAys on AA
http://www.advocate.com/news_detail_ektid36619.asp
September 20, 2006
American Airlines rebukes gay couple
An American Airlines captain reportedly threatened to divert a flight
from Paris to New York after a gay couple complained about how they
were treated by the flight crew, The New Yorker reported on Monday.
According to a "Talk of the Town" item in the magazine's September 25
issue, now posted on its Web site, TV journalist George Tsikhiseli and
his boyfriend of four months, writer Stephan Varnier, were told by a
stewardess to stop their "touching and the kissing" not long into
American Airlines Flight 45 from Charles de Gaulle to JFK on August
22. The couple said they were doing nothing inappropriateÑperhaps a
peck on the cheek, a head on the other's shoulderÑa story backed up by
the two passengers seated behind them and another across the aisle.
When they asked to see the purserÑwhom the stewardess claimed had
issued the orderÑthe purser said she knew nothing about the incident
and initially agreed that their behavior had not been inappropriate,
the men and witnesses reported. But she returned later to say that
other passengers had complained about the men's affectionate gestures.
When the gay couple asked who had complained, asked to speak with an
American Airlines representative upon landing, and asked for the
stewardess's name and employee number, the purser told them to drop
the matter or the flight would be diverted, the magazine reported.
An hour later, the purser asked Tsikhiseli to meet the captain in a
galley, and the captain repeated the threat to divert the airplane if
the men continued to "argue" with the crew, according to The New
Yorker.
A spokesman for the airline backed up the flight crew's behavior and
said their complaints to the men had nothing to do with the fact that
they were a gay couple. "Our understanding is that the level of
affection was more than a quick peck on the cheek,Ó he told the
magazine.

Just curious, if it were a normal couple, do you think the couple
would have a hissy fit like this?
This is exactly why gays think they're victims, they create the
situation themselves. If I were doing the same with my wife on a plane
and the stewardess commented on it, I would think that my actions were
making someone else feel uncomfortable AND I'D SHOW SOME FREAKING
CONSIDERATION FOR OTHERS AROUND ME. But no, it's a big deal because
these gay dorks want to make it a big deal.

Bullshit. If it were a heterosexual couple showing light PDA (not even
mild), realistically, this situation would not even be an issue.
However since it is a gay couple showing light PDA, "we're gonna step
all over your toes."
Yes, gay or heterosexual, if they behaved with excessive PDA, they
should be thrown off the plane. However, I don't believe such was the
case. So you can fucking stop whining about your Goddamned courtesy
call.

I don't know what the fuck PDA is, but if I were asked politely to
knock it off, I would. I'm an adult and I know how to conduct myself
in public. I am aware that people have differing sensibilities than I
do, and if I'm offending someone else while I'm sitting on a plane, I
would choose to stop offending them rather than making a federal case
out of something.

That's EXACTLY the reason people like me are offended by people like
you. It's not because of what you do, it's because you feel like you
have some fucking god given right to stand on ceremony about things
that NORMAL people would let pass. And by NORMAL, I mean people that
aren't ASSHOLES.
--
lab~rat >:-)
Do you want polite or do you want sincere?

[John Smith ®]

Post by lab~rat >:-)

Post by B***@yahoo.com

Post by lab~rat >:-)

Post by No gAAys on AA
http://www.advocate.com/news_detail_ektid36619.asp
September 20, 2006
American Airlines rebukes gay couple
An American Airlines captain reportedly threatened to divert a flight
from Paris to New York after a gay couple complained about how they
were treated by the flight crew, The New Yorker reported on Monday.
According to a "Talk of the Town" item in the magazine's September 25
issue, now posted on its Web site, TV journalist George Tsikhiseli and
his boyfriend of four months, writer Stephan Varnier, were told by a
stewardess to stop their "touching and the kissing" not long into
American Airlines Flight 45 from Charles de Gaulle to JFK on August
22. The couple said they were doing nothing inappropriate„perhaps a
peck on the cheek, a head on the other's shoulder„a story backed up by
the two passengers seated behind them and another across the aisle.
When they asked to see the purser„whom the stewardess claimed had
issued the order„the purser said she knew nothing about the incident
and initially agreed that their behavior had not been inappropriate,
the men and witnesses reported. But she returned later to say that
other passengers had complained about the men's affectionate gestures.
When the gay couple asked who had complained, asked to speak with an
American Airlines representative upon landing, and asked for the
stewardess's name and employee number, the purser told them to drop
the matter or the flight would be diverted, the magazine reported.
An hour later, the purser asked Tsikhiseli to meet the captain in a
galley, and the captain repeated the threat to divert the airplane if
the men continued to "argue" with the crew, according to The New
Yorker.
A spokesman for the airline backed up the flight crew's behavior and
said their complaints to the men had nothing to do with the fact that
they were a gay couple. "Our understanding is that the level of
affection was more than a quick peck on the cheek,î he told the
magazine.

Just curious, if it were a normal couple, do you think the couple
would have a hissy fit like this?
This is exactly why gays think they're victims, they create the
situation themselves. If I were doing the same with my wife on a plane
and the stewardess commented on it, I would think that my actions were
making someone else feel uncomfortable AND I'D SHOW SOME FREAKING
CONSIDERATION FOR OTHERS AROUND ME. But no, it's a big deal because
these gay dorks want to make it a big deal.

Bullshit. If it were a heterosexual couple showing light PDA (not even
mild), realistically, this situation would not even be an issue.
However since it is a gay couple showing light PDA, "we're gonna step
all over your toes."
Yes, gay or heterosexual, if they behaved with excessive PDA, they
should be thrown off the plane. However, I don't believe such was the
case. So you can fucking stop whining about your Goddamned courtesy
call.

I don't know what the fuck PDA is, but if I were asked politely to
knock it off, I would. I'm an adult and I know how to conduct myself
in public. I am aware that people have differing sensibilities than I
do, and if I'm offending someone else while I'm sitting on a plane, I
would choose to stop offending them rather than making a federal case
out of something.
That's EXACTLY the reason people like me are offended by people like
you. It's not because of what you do, it's because you feel like you
have some fucking god given right to stand on ceremony about things
that NORMAL people would let pass. And by NORMAL, I mean people that
aren't ASSHOLES.
--

Darn, I use my PDA (a Toshiba e750) on planes all the time and they only
request that I stop during takeoff and landing. I really can't tell if my
PDA is gay or not (couldn't find that in the manual anywhere) but if the
flight staff told me to stop because my behavior had been inappropriate and
others were annoyed by it, then I would turn it off. I can't help it if I
like to fondle and kiss my PDA. Of course later I would take legal action
becuase the airline is probably just a bunch of bigots and hate computer
geeks - everyone else is - it seems to start in middle school......

[B***@yahoo.com]

Post by lab~rat >:-)
I don't know what the fuck PDA is

Public Display of Affection

Post by lab~rat >:-)
, but if I were asked politely to
knock it off, I would. I'm an adult and I know how to conduct myself
in public.

Yeah, you would obey to everything somebody complains about, wouldn't
you.? That's your weakness, not mine. This is America, jack. Everyday,
you see "normal" people displaying light PDA. They are adults too.
There is nothing wrong that. However, if several people complained
about a certain couple over there going at it over the edge, yes, by
all means, show some common courtesy and stop it.

You obviously feel uncomfortable showing even light PDA. By all means,
that's fine for you. However, don't tell others it's wrong if it's only
a light peck on the cheek or even a simple kiss on the mouth. If it
offends you, turn the cheek.

Bill Hewlett

[Dionisio]

Post by B***@yahoo.com

Post by lab~rat >:-)
I don't know what the fuck PDA is

Public Display of Affection

No, no. Personal Digital Assistant. On Usenet they can be found in the
alt.binaries... subset.

Some folks find them quite -- erm -- "handy."

[Strife767]

Post by lab~rat >:-)

Post by No gAAys on AA
http://www.advocate.com/news_detail_ektid36619.asp
September 20, 2006
American Airlines rebukes gay couple
An American Airlines captain reportedly threatened to divert a flight
from Paris to New York after a gay couple complained about how they
were treated by the flight crew, The New Yorker reported on Monday.
According to a "Talk of the Town" item in the magazine's September 25
issue, now posted on its Web site, TV journalist George Tsikhiseli and
his boyfriend of four months, writer Stephan Varnier, were told by a
stewardess to stop their "touching and the kissing" not long into
American Airlines Flight 45 from Charles de Gaulle to JFK on August
22. The couple said they were doing nothing inappropriateÑperhaps a
peck on the cheek, a head on the other's shoulderÑa story backed up by
the two passengers seated behind them and another across the aisle.
When they asked to see the purserÑwhom the stewardess claimed had
issued the orderÑthe purser said she knew nothing about the incident
and initially agreed that their behavior had not been inappropriate,
the men and witnesses reported. But she returned later to say that
other passengers had complained about the men's affectionate gestures.
When the gay couple asked who had complained, asked to speak with an
American Airlines representative upon landing, and asked for the
stewardess's name and employee number, the purser told them to drop
the matter or the flight would be diverted, the magazine reported.
An hour later, the purser asked Tsikhiseli to meet the captain in a
galley, and the captain repeated the threat to divert the airplane if
the men continued to "argue" with the crew, according to The New
Yorker.
A spokesman for the airline backed up the flight crew's behavior and
said their complaints to the men had nothing to do with the fact that
they were a gay couple. "Our understanding is that the level of
affection was more than a quick peck on the cheek,Ó he told the
magazine.

Just curious, if it were a normal couple, do you think the couple
would have a hissy fit like this?

The day someone goes out of their way to complain about a hetero couple
doing such a thing, I'll listen to this argument.

Post by lab~rat >:-)
This is exactly why gays think they're victims, they create the
situation themselves. If I were doing the same with my wife on a plane
and the stewardess commented on it, I would think that my actions were
making someone else feel uncomfortable AND I'D SHOW SOME FREAKING
CONSIDERATION FOR OTHERS AROUND ME.

But no one complains about hetero couples doing the same stuff these guys
got so much shit for.

Post by lab~rat >:-)
But no, it's a big deal because

no one complains when heteros do it.

[snip]

[unknown]

Post by No gAAys on AA
http://www.advocate.com/news_detail_ektid36619.asp
September 20, 2006
American Airlines rebukes gay couple
An American Airlines captain reportedly threatened to divert a flight
from Paris to New York after a gay couple complained about how they
were treated by the flight crew, The New Yorker reported on Monday.
According to a "Talk of the Town" item in the magazine's September 25
issue, now posted on its Web site, TV journalist George Tsikhiseli and
his boyfriend of four months, writer Stephan Varnier, were told by a
stewardess to stop their "touching and the kissing" not long into
American Airlines Flight 45 from Charles de Gaulle to JFK on August
22. The couple said they were doing nothing inappropriate—perhaps a
peck on the cheek, a head on the other's shoulder—a story backed up by
the two passengers seated behind them and another across the aisle.
When they asked to see the purser—whom the stewardess claimed had
issued the order—the purser said she knew nothing about the incident
and initially agreed that their behavior had not been inappropriate,
the men and witnesses reported. But she returned later to say that
other passengers had complained about the men's affectionate gestures.
When the gay couple asked who had complained, asked to speak with an
American Airlines representative upon landing, and asked for the
stewardess's name and employee number, the purser told them to drop
the matter or the flight would be diverted, the magazine reported.
An hour later, the purser asked Tsikhiseli to meet the captain in a
galley, and the captain repeated the threat to divert the airplane if
the men continued to "argue" with the crew, according to The New
Yorker.
A spokesman for the airline backed up the flight crew's behavior and
said their complaints to the men had nothing to do with the fact that
they were a gay couple. "Our understanding is that the level of
affection was more than a quick peck on the cheek,” he told the
magazine.

Could those gay couple be Martin and Morrow incognito?