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Post by J. P. Gilliver (John)Actually, I don't think it _is_ a minority: the majority of UMRA
comments I've seen think it is being well handled. We're irritated by
various aspects of the storyline, such as Shula (and some of us by the
"if you have been affected"s), but I think we on the whole think it's
being very well done
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I fell like punching Shula whenever she starts noseying in on Jim’s
(As do most of us - which shows that this aspect of the FOTWD is being
well-written; we are really involved with the characters.)
Post by Vicky AyechPost by SODAMproblem. She has been pushing and probing, despite repeatedly being asked
not to. On this showing, she would make the worst vicar ever. Counselling
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Post by Vicky AyechI absolutely agree. I was never particularly anti Saint until she
Me neither; on the whole, I liked her. I of course don't see eye to eye
with her on the matter of faith, but I can usually ignore that in the
same way as accepting someone having a different taste in music.
Actually, though that thought just came to me in passing, I think it
works quite well: as long as it doesn't actually (adversely) affect my
life, that seems a good way to see religion. (Of course, most of them
_do_ affect my life, but not those wielded by most of the folk I know.)
Post by Vicky Ayechdivorced Snappy and began regretting it, being at a loose end and
I even thought the divorce was a reasonable way for them to go - as a
marriage, it had run its course.
Post by Vicky Ayechpushing back into his family life. I blame the stupid woman for the
whole Jim affair. He didn't WANT a party. He didn't WANT to tell her
Yes, I strongly agreed with Jim on that, and thought it was a Very Bad
Idea; it clearly _was_ a party in all but name. I've _never_ liked the
idea of most parties. (I'll be 60 in April, but think I _will_ escape as
there's no-one in a _position_ to do anything. I hope. And if someone
does, and I turn round and walk out, I think it extremely unfair that it
is _I_ who would be thought of as being unreasonable.)
To be fair, Shula and Al just wanted to do something good for Jim, and
of course had no idea of the abuse history; just the party was a very
bad idea. Had he just snubbed it _without_ there being the abuse story,
I'd still have backed him all the way. The other thing Al had planned -
I forget the exact details, but some visit to something
historical/archaeological (in Yorkshire, was it?) - seemed quite a good
one: partly because it was done _with_ Jim's knowledge, and partly
because Al wasn't looking forward to trudging round ruins in the rain,
or something like that!, but was willing to do it for his Dad.
Post by Vicky Ayechwhy he destroyed the keyboard and does not want to go to the police or
counseling.
Yes. And there, the SWs are in on the "conspiracy": giving him the
nightmare (and letting us know about it) is intended to make us think
that maybe letting sleeping dogs lie is perhaps not a good thing - I am
aware of being manipulated and I rebel against it.
Post by Vicky AyechHe wants to live a peaceful life and not go over and over
the events again so he keeps distressing himself. Not even because
Shula wants more excitement and because Snappy has been nagged by her
and he and Jazzer want closure.
Objectively, I think it's a good point for discussion: is there anything
to be served by outing/punishing the offender (or by not doing so)?
There's the question of whether he's still doing it - I think unlikely
as he's apparently in a wheelchair, but I suppose still possible.
There's the question of whether he should be "punished": as such, I'm
not sure what would be achieved by that, other than: its possible
deterrent effect on other, actual or potential, offenders. As I said,
good discussion fodder.
Post by Vicky AyechI agree she'd make an awful vicar and am shocked that Alan encouraged
her when she went back.
He's a kind person.
Post by Vicky AyechAlthough what he said was that he thought she
would be back. Did he say he thought she'd be good at it? She is too
No (-:. At least I don't think he did.
Post by Vicky Ayechold, as has been pointed out, maybe even here. And someone suggested
Why is age a downer on becoming a vicar?
Post by Vicky Ayechshe set up riding for the disabled or depressed or those with mental
health problems and let Freddie help full time as her assistant.
Sounds good in itself - though I, rather selfishly, wouldn't relish it
as part of TA as we'd inevitably hear some of the stories of the
depressed/MHP people, and I don't want any more of that.
If she could just set it up for the _physically_ disabled, that'd be
good. (Though _can_ one, these days, do that, without _having_ to be
open to the depressed/MHP?)
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J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)***@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
"Going to church doesn't make you a Christian anymore than going to a garage
makes you a car." - Laurence J. Peter