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Blows your mind
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JTEM is Magic
2021-10-07 19:56:23 UTC
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Assuming your mind hasn't already blown a gasket,
these things should by all rights blow your mind...

Alien signals are reaching us. They reach us every
second of every minute of every hour of every day,
and they always have.

It's literally impossible that they wouldn't.

IF alien civilizations exist, and we all agree that they
must, that the odds that we're alone are tiny,
minuscule. We're talking quantum-level tiny here.

The signals are reaching us. They''re simply far too
weak, as a rule, for us to detect them. But their
signals are reaching us. Their radio, their TV or whatever
it is they use to communicate with & entertain each
other; it's reaching us.

If we could only sniff them all, all these signals, tease
them apart from each other, we could listen in (watch?)
as beings nothing like ourselves lay out their knowledge
and culture for us to study.

It's all there! It's all right under or noses! For us it's like
microbial world before the invention of the microscope.
We know it's there, or at least we're certain that it must
be, but we can't see it.







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Mike
2021-10-07 20:42:31 UTC
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Post by JTEM is Magic
Assuming your mind hasn't already blown a gasket,
these things should by all rights blow your mind...
Alien signals are reaching us. They reach us every
second of every minute of every hour of every day,
and they always have.
It's literally impossible that they wouldn't.
IF alien civilizations exist, and we all agree that they
must, that the odds that we're alone are tiny,
minuscule. We're talking quantum-level tiny here.
The signals are reaching us. They''re simply far too
weak, as a rule, for us to detect them. But their
signals are reaching us. Their radio, their TV or whatever
it is they use to communicate with & entertain each
other; it's reaching us.
If we could only sniff them all, all these signals, tease
them apart from each other, we could listen in (watch?)
as beings nothing like ourselves lay out their knowledge
and culture for us to study.
It's all there! It's all right under or noses! For us it's like
microbial world before the invention of the microscope.
We know it's there, or at least we're certain that it must
be, but we can't see it.
What if you are sniffing them already, but their effects are
far different than you might think?
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JTEM is Magic
2021-10-07 21:09:56 UTC
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Post by Mike
What if you are sniffing them already, but their effects are
far different than you might think?
You've expressed ideas along those lines in the past. It's all very
intriguing but I would suspect that the signals would have to be
far stronger.

I mean, there could be the signals from thousands, millions or
even billions of worlds reaching us all at once. If one could turn
us into crab men another would likely turn us into butterfly men
and still others into fish... dinosaurs... rock people...

So I don't think the scenario is likely, for anything at *That* level,
that weak strength.





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Mike
2021-10-07 21:20:10 UTC
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Post by Mike
What if you are sniffing them already, but their effects are
far different than you might think?
You've expressed ideas along those lines in the past. It's all very
intriguing but I would suspect that the signals would have to be
far stronger.
I mean, there could be the signals from thousands, millions or
even billions of worlds reaching us all at once. If one could turn
us into crab men another would likely turn us into butterfly men
and still others into fish... dinosaurs... rock people...
Yes, it could be an ongoing process. Your very body could
be a composition generated by a symphony of stars.
Post by JTEM is Magic
So I don't think the scenario is likely, for anything at *That* level,
that weak strength.
Even a weak signal can contain significant amounts of
influence if it goes on for billions of years. A thought
for the Cosmos is not the same as the thought of a man.
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JTEM is Magic
2021-10-08 03:05:53 UTC
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Post by Mike
Even a weak signal can contain significant amounts of
influence if it goes on for billions of years. A thought
for the Cosmos is not the same as the thought of a man.
The problem here being BILLIONS of signals, if not more. Unless
they are all working harmoniously then there doesn't seem to be
much hope for any directed change.





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Mike
2021-10-08 03:51:17 UTC
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Post by Mike
Even a weak signal can contain significant amounts of
influence if it goes on for billions of years. A thought
for the Cosmos is not the same as the thought of a man.
The problem here being BILLIONS of signals, if not more. Unless
they are all working harmoniously then there doesn't seem to be
much hope for any directed change.
Impossible as it may seem, I do believe the Universe works
'harmoniously'. So, as strange as it seems, it is still not too
far fetched the possibility that these signals from various
locations can have a systemic effect. Only a virtual reality
can exhibit that feature, I think. I can't see any other explanation.
All I can say is unlikely coincidences happen regularly in my
personal life. And if I look around the whole Universe seems
to be functioning fine without having the need for clocks, so
events must happen in harmony, otherwise there couldn't be
any order at all.
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JTEM is Magic
2021-10-08 04:39:01 UTC
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Post by Mike
Impossible as it may seem, I do believe the Universe works
'harmoniously'. So, as strange as it seems, it is still not too
far fetched the possibility that these signals from various
locations can have a systemic effect. Only a virtual reality
can exhibit that feature, I think. I can't see any other explanation.
All I can say is unlikely coincidences happen regularly in my
personal life. And if I look around the whole Universe seems
to be functioning fine without having the need for clocks, so
events must happen in harmony, otherwise there couldn't be
any order at all.
"Synchronicity."

But reality as it appears to us seems based on interaction.

You throw a ball, the ball interacts with the environment. The
ball doesn't just react, it interacts. It exerts force and encounters
forces.

Both the ball and the environment are changed.

On a macro scale you see this in the domestication of animals,
where both the animals and the people are changed. You can
see changes in the archaeology, the tools left behind, the garbage
they dropped and even WHERE and HOW they lived...

And all this interaction spreads. Because the light, the photon
bounced off the ball that you threw it will now interact with other
objects/particles/atoms/molecules differently or than it would
have if you had not thrown the ball... so on & so forth.

So I would say that it's not so much harmony as merely interacting.

Jung's "Synchronicity," of sorts? Because the source is the same?






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Steven Douglas
2021-10-07 23:51:09 UTC
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Post by JTEM is Magic
Assuming your mind hasn't already blown a gasket,
these things should by all rights blow your mind...
Alien signals are reaching us. They reach us every
second of every minute of every hour of every day,
and they always have.
It's literally impossible that they wouldn't.
IF alien civilizations exist, and we all agree that they
must,
Not all. I do not necessarily agree with that they must exist.
Post by JTEM is Magic
that the odds that we're alone are tiny,
minuscule. We're talking quantum-level tiny here.
The signals are reaching us. They''re simply far too
weak, as a rule, for us to detect them. But their
signals are reaching us. Their radio, their TV or whatever
it is they use to communicate with & entertain each
other; it's reaching us.
Even if these other "civilizations" exist, how do you know
that they've advanced to the point of radio communications?
Out of the entire history of this planet, humans have only
had that ability for about 100 years.

Out of all the countless stars in the universe, there might be a
few hundred stars that are within 100 light years of us, which
means there are countless other stars that "might" be eligible
to receive our signals, but will not hear our signals for many
more years.

So the signals you're talking about, if they even exist, might
not be reaching us yet. I actually doubt we'll ever hear such
signals, because I don't think they exist.
Mike
2021-10-08 00:39:28 UTC
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Post by JTEM is Magic
Assuming your mind hasn't already blown a gasket,
these things should by all rights blow your mind...
Alien signals are reaching us. They reach us every
second of every minute of every hour of every day,
and they always have.
It's literally impossible that they wouldn't.
IF alien civilizations exist, and we all agree that they
must,
Not all. I do not necessarily agree with that they must exist.
Post by JTEM is Magic
that the odds that we're alone are tiny,
minuscule. We're talking quantum-level tiny here.
The signals are reaching us. They''re simply far too
weak, as a rule, for us to detect them. But their
signals are reaching us. Their radio, their TV or whatever
it is they use to communicate with & entertain each
other; it's reaching us.
Even if these other "civilizations" exist, how do you know
that they've advanced to the point of radio communications?
Out of the entire history of this planet, humans have only
had that ability for about 100 years.
Isn't the Bible in kind of a similar boat? This
Earth has been here for billions of years and
seems to have functioned perfectly without
it.
Post by Steven Douglas
Out of all the countless stars in the universe, there might be a
few hundred stars that are within 100 light years of us, which
means there are countless other stars that "might" be eligible
to receive our signals, but will not hear our signals for many
more years.
So the signals you're talking about, if they even exist, might
not be reaching us yet. I actually doubt we'll ever hear such
signals, because I don't think they exist.
The Universe is a holographic projection. All that it takes
for them to 'exist' is to offer your expectations and beliefs.
The Universe will offer up the needed physical evidence.
Even Jesus said 'just ask and you will receive'.
JTEM is Magic
2021-10-08 03:04:16 UTC
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Post by Steven Douglas
Even if these other "civilizations" exist, how do you know
that they've advanced to the point of radio communications?
Out of the entire history of this planet, humans have only
had that ability for about 100 years.
"Civilization," outside the vernacular, has a very specific meaning.
In the truest academic sense it's barely more than 5,000 years old.

So we're suddenly talking like one out of 50 civilizations, maybe?

Let's make it half that, 1%.

Given the upward potential, we're still looking at huge numbers here.
Post by Steven Douglas
Out of all the countless stars in the universe, there might be a
few hundred stars that are within 100 light years of us
Who cares if they're 10,000 or even a billion light years away? It
doesn't change anything, except drastically increase the signals that
are reaching us.
Post by Steven Douglas
So the signals you're talking about, if they even exist, might
not be reaching us yet.
Many haven't. Many already passed us by countless millions of years
ago. Even so, the numbers are huge.
Post by Steven Douglas
I actually doubt we'll ever hear such signals, because I don't think they exist.
The point is, they are reaching us. Whether we can discern them from
background noise, or if they're too weak for us to even mistaken them for
that, is another matter entirely. But, they are reaching us.

It's akin to bacteria before the invention of the microscope. Just as those
"Antiquarians" could little more than guess at he existence of life too small
to see, we can only speculate about signals far too weak to detect.






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docufo
2021-10-08 08:16:54 UTC
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Post by JTEM is Magic
Assuming your mind hasn't already blown a gasket,
these things should by all rights blow your mind...
Alien signals are reaching us. They reach us every
second of every minute of every hour of every day,
and they always have.
It's literally impossible that they wouldn't.
IF alien civilizations exist, and we all agree that they
must, that the odds that we're alone are tiny,
minuscule. We're talking quantum-level tiny here.
The signals are reaching us. They''re simply far too
weak, as a rule, for us to detect them. But their
signals are reaching us. Their radio, their TV or whatever
it is they use to communicate with & entertain each
other; it's reaching us.
If we could only sniff them all, all these signals, tease
them apart from each other, we could listen in (watch?)
as beings nothing like ourselves lay out their knowledge
and culture for us to study.
It's all there! It's all right under or noses! For us it's like
microbial world before the invention of the microscope.
We know it's there, or at least we're certain that it must
be, but we can't see it.
Naahh, far rightists are busy cooking up a crazy case for alien microbes
and even embryos planted in COVID vaccines!! That's gotta' be where the
evil aliens are doing their satanic work, attempting to possess the
vaccinated.

Leftists have no presence anywhere outside our planet! So you need to
know it's all fake news from NASA.

Any supposed alien signals are just a plot by leftists to take over the
world, get people to believe they are among us and then force the
populace to worship them as gods.

~!~
o
Steven Douglas
2021-10-08 17:19:16 UTC
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Post by docufo
Naahh, far rightists are busy cooking up a crazy case for alien microbes
and even embryos planted in COVID vaccines!!
You are hilarious! Right here on this group, we have your best
friend Mike saying he doesn't trust the vaccine, he won't take
the vaccine, and you have NOTHING to say to him about it.

Yet you tell me that Trump and I are going to Hell because of
the vaccine that Trump rammed through the FDA for approval
in record time, and Trump and I have both taken the vaccine.

So my question is this: why are Trump and I going to Hell, but
you have NOTHING to say to your best friend Mike about it?
Mike
2021-10-08 17:32:33 UTC
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Post by docufo
Naahh, far rightists are busy cooking up a crazy case for alien microbes
and even embryos planted in COVID vaccines!!
You are hilarious! Right here on this group, we have your best
friend Mike saying he doesn't trust the vaccine, he won't take
the vaccine, and you have NOTHING to say to him about it.
Why did you take the vaccine anyhow Steven? JTEM
said he took it because of peer pressure. You didn't
explain why you took it. It seems to me clear the Bible
warns us not to take it. It seems very much like what the
bible describes as the mark of the beast. There is clearly
going to be a time not to far off where you will not be
able to buy or sell without it. Don't you know the verses?
What are your feelings about this?
Post by Steven Douglas
Yet you tell me that Trump and I are going to Hell because of
the vaccine that Trump rammed through the FDA for approval
in record time, and Trump and I have both taken the vaccine.
So my question is this: why are Trump and I going to Hell, but
you have NOTHING to say to your best friend Mike about it?
Steven Douglas
2021-10-08 19:25:58 UTC
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Post by Steven Douglas
Post by docufo
Naahh, far rightists are busy cooking up a crazy case for alien microbes
and even embryos planted in COVID vaccines!!
You are hilarious! Right here on this group, we have your best
friend Mike saying he doesn't trust the vaccine, he won't take
the vaccine, and you have NOTHING to say to him about it.
Why did you take the vaccine anyhow Steven? JTEM
said he took it because of peer pressure. You didn't
explain why you took it.
For the same reason I get the flu shot every year. For the
same reason I've been vaccinated against all the various
diseases that have been largely eradicated from society,
and that I've never had to endure (thank God!).
Post by Mike
It seems to me clear the Bible
warns us not to take it.
Can you show me the chapter and verse that makes it clear?
Post by Mike
It seems very much like what the
bible describes as the mark of the beast.
Not ever close. The mark of the beast will be on your right hand
or your forehead. When I get a vaccine, they do not put the needle
in my hand or my forehead, they put it in my arm. And it does not
leave any sort of lasting "mark" or "indicator" that it was there.
Post by Mike
There is clearly
going to be a time not to far off where you will not be
able to buy or sell without it. Don't you know the verses?
Yes, I'm aware of that.
Post by Mike
What are your feelings about this?
I think the technology that will be used for the mark of the
beast is already in existence, and is demonstrated in the
following video:

"Employees of a vending machine company are getting
microchips implanted into their bodies"



This is another indication that we are in the End Times. This
is yet another way the forces of evil are preparing us for the
coming Antichrist, and the technology they will use has only
recently come into existence and is currently being tested
on humans.
Mike
2021-10-08 20:17:50 UTC
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Post by Mike
Post by Steven Douglas
Post by docufo
Naahh, far rightists are busy cooking up a crazy case for alien microbes
and even embryos planted in COVID vaccines!!
You are hilarious! Right here on this group, we have your best
friend Mike saying he doesn't trust the vaccine, he won't take
the vaccine, and you have NOTHING to say to him about it.
Why did you take the vaccine anyhow Steven? JTEM
said he took it because of peer pressure. You didn't
explain why you took it.
For the same reason I get the flu shot every year. For the
same reason I've been vaccinated against all the various
diseases that have been largely eradicated from society,
and that I've never had to endure (thank God!).
I've been vaccinated for quite a few things. I don't know and
can't even remember.

Anything I ever had my body was able to fight it off. How
do you know it's not just your own immune system is
protecting you? How can you be sure you really need
the vaccine if you keep taking it? Why are you so afraid of
dying anyhow? It seems to me Christians should be the
least afraid of dying. What good was Jesus if you are still
afraid. You will eventually have to face death you know.
Every living creature must confront their mortality. Even
Jesus could not escape his physical death.
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Post by Mike
It seems to me clear the Bible
warns us not to take it.
Can you show me the chapter and verse that makes it clear?
I know how to tell a beast when I see one. I don't need the Bible
to see the tyranny. I know how to tell evil.
Post by Steven Douglas
Post by Mike
It seems very much like what the
bible describes as the mark of the beast.
Not ever close. The mark of the beast will be on your right hand
or your forehead.
What hand do you generally hold your smartphone in?
When the smartphone is obsoleted and replaced with
technology like Google Glasses, where do you think
the glasses or the cameras might go? The forehead
would be an excellent place to place a camera. Also
I noticed the temperature thermometers are being pointed
at your forehead.
Post by Steven Douglas
When I get a vaccine, they do not put the needle
in my hand or my forehead, they put it in my arm. And it does not
leave any sort of lasting "mark" or "indicator" that it was there.
The vaccine is not the 'mark', the passport is. The vaccine
is connected to the passport. How could you be so blind
not to see this?
Post by Steven Douglas
Post by Mike
There is clearly
going to be a time not to far off where you will not be
able to buy or sell without it. Don't you know the verses?
Yes, I'm aware of that.
And so you want to help it and speed it up in coming
to fruition?
Post by Steven Douglas
Post by Mike
What are your feelings about this?
I think the technology that will be used for the mark of the
beast is already in existence, and is demonstrated in the
"Employees of a vending machine company are getting
microchips implanted into their bodies"
http://youtu.be/6Tvb76sfPFg
I think more likely it will be based on CRISPR
technology. Information and markers can be
planted directly in the human DNA and the
technology will soon exist where they can
effectively read it. How could people be so
foolish. The Bible clearly indicates that Satan
wants to own mankind. How could you not see
this is an opportunity for mass control, unlike
anything that has happens before. The Bible
seems so clear about everything.

CRISPR
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CRISPR
Post by Steven Douglas
This is another indication that we are in the End Times.
I don't believe this is the 'End Times' at all, not yet. If you don't
wake up real fast it could be thousands of years of slavery
for mankind. Once it starts, who will be left to stop it?
Your health is a free gift given to you by God. He gave you
a perfect immune system. It's the Devil who what's you to
believe your life and your health comes from a vile or a
bottle. I am so saddened how people are so easily deceive.
We are at a cross roads now, just like Adam and Eve in the
Garden. Who's side do you want to be on?
Post by Steven Douglas
This
is yet another way the forces of evil are preparing us for the
coming Antichrist, and the technology they will use has only
recently come into existence and is currently being tested
on humans.
Yes I know, and you are assisting them!!
Steven Douglas
2021-10-09 01:35:23 UTC
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Post by Steven Douglas
Post by Mike
Post by Steven Douglas
Post by docufo
Naahh, far rightists are busy cooking up a crazy case for alien microbes
and even embryos planted in COVID vaccines!!
You are hilarious! Right here on this group, we have your best
friend Mike saying he doesn't trust the vaccine, he won't take
the vaccine, and you have NOTHING to say to him about it.
Why did you take the vaccine anyhow Steven? JTEM
said he took it because of peer pressure. You didn't
explain why you took it.
For the same reason I get the flu shot every year. For the
same reason I've been vaccinated against all the various
diseases that have been largely eradicated from society,
and that I've never had to endure (thank God!).
I've been vaccinated for quite a few things. I don't know and
can't even remember.
Anything I ever had my body was able to fight it off. How
do you know it's not just your own immune system is
protecting you?
You probably have no clue of what it was like before the polio
vaccine was introduced in the 1950s. Because of that vaccine,
polio has been practically defeated. I say practically, because
there are some people in more recent years who refused to get
their children vaccinated, and polio started to make a comeback.

Some vaccines are very important, and it's not just our immune
systems that defeated polio -- or many other diseases.
Post by Mike
How can you be sure you really need
the vaccine if you keep taking it? Why are you so afraid of
dying anyhow?
What makes you think I'm afraid of dying? Because I don't
want polio? Or some other debilitating disease? I thought
you were supposed to be so logical, but you keep coming
up with ridiculous ideas that show no logic at all.
Post by Mike
It seems to me Christians should be the
least afraid of dying. What good was Jesus if you are still
afraid.
I'm really getting tired of you projecting your own imagination
on to me. You really are a waste of time.
Mike
2021-10-09 02:04:54 UTC
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Post by Mike
Post by Steven Douglas
Post by docufo
Naahh, far rightists are busy cooking up a crazy case for alien microbes
and even embryos planted in COVID vaccines!!
You are hilarious! Right here on this group, we have your best
friend Mike saying he doesn't trust the vaccine, he won't take
the vaccine, and you have NOTHING to say to him about it.
Why did you take the vaccine anyhow Steven? JTEM
said he took it because of peer pressure. You didn't
explain why you took it.
For the same reason I get the flu shot every year. For the
same reason I've been vaccinated against all the various
diseases that have been largely eradicated from society,
and that I've never had to endure (thank God!).
I've been vaccinated for quite a few things. I don't know and
can't even remember.
Anything I ever had my body was able to fight it off. How
do you know it's not just your own immune system is
protecting you?
You probably have no clue of what it was like before the polio
vaccine was introduced in the 1950s.
I don't need to know, there are more recent examples
even better. Personally I think polio could have been
another scam. I prefer real numbers and to see the
real science. I don't thrust reports, papers, news etc.
It is no secret that people in power lie. You have no
means to prove their science. I don't like treating
hypothetical as reality.
Post by Steven Douglas
Because of that vaccine,
polio has been practically defeated.
I have no evidence of that. As far as I know, just
likes AIDS. The polio was created so they could
push the vaccine. There is now way I am going to
trust people who build nuclear bombs to mass
kill people, and who experiment in labs with dangerous
agents, all in the name of profit. Polio was just
so someone can make money on it. I wouldn't
put it past them. If they can cause people to give
up their souls by believe in a fictitious character
called Jesus, and a book of fiction called the Bible,
then if people are that gullible, they can literally
get away with anything. They can make you dance
on your head while tapping your belly and clapping
your feet. They can make you do ANYTHING!!!
Post by Steven Douglas
I say practically, because
there are some people in more recent years who refused to get
their children vaccinated, and polio started to make a comeback.
I doubt that's true. Most of the stuff that comes out of the medical
establishment are deceptions. They have no cure for anything. All they
want is to make money. That's the real reason if it's even true that
polio is making a comeback. Expect more and more fear mongering.
You haven't seen anything yet.
Post by Steven Douglas
Some vaccines are very important, and it's not just our immune
systems that defeated polio -- or many other diseases.
Post by Mike
How can you be sure you really need
the vaccine if you keep taking it? Why are you so afraid of
dying anyhow?
What makes you think I'm afraid of dying?
Well, if you are not afraid of dying yourself, why are you
so concerned about others dying of anything? That seems
to me twisted and rational.
Post by Steven Douglas
Because I don't
want polio? Or some other debilitating disease? I thought
you were supposed to be so logical, but you keep coming
up with ridiculous ideas that show no logic at all.
I am a little afraid of a plane crashing into my home too. It's a
thought that goes through my mind occasionally. Do I expect
everyone to stop flying, because a plane crash can be lethal,
even for innocent people on the ground. I think you are suffering
from insane madness.
Post by Steven Douglas
Post by Mike
It seems to me Christians should be the
least afraid of dying. What good was Jesus if you are still
afraid.
I'm really getting tired of you projecting your own imagination
on to me.
Show me where I have done that?
Post by Steven Douglas
You really are a waste of time.
I really don't see the issue then, you seem
to have lots of free time for wasting. How
many decades now have you been telling
me this?

JTEM is Magic
2021-10-08 19:04:18 UTC
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Post by docufo
Naahh, far rightists are busy cooking up a crazy case for alien microbes
and even embryos planted in COVID vaccines!! That's gotta' be where the
evil aliens are doing their satanic work, attempting to possess the
vaccinated.
It's like you sneeze on your keyboard and this crap is the result.

The only difference between the far right & you is that you lack consistency.
According to you, the government is a pack of lying liars who do nothing but
lie when they say things which are always lies. Because they're liars. AND,
they are the one divine source of truth. They lied and told nothing but lies for
70 years and now they can only reveal facts about UFOs.





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