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Why Can't the Doctor Be More Like a Woman?
By VARAD MEHTA
July 22, 2017 8:00 AM

Jodie Whittaker as the new Dr. Who

By changing its main character into a woman, the producers of Doctor Who have irrevocably altered the show and fans’ relationship to it.
The announcement that Jodie Whittaker will become the first woman to play the title role on the world’s longest-running science-fiction television program elicited reactions so predictable they could have been scripted. Those who had clamored for the last decade that the next Doctor should be female applauded Whittaker’s casting as a blow for female equality and finally bringing Doctor Who into the 21st century. Those who snuff the approach of political correctness in every tainted breeze took to Twitter (do they exist anywhere else?) to rail against this surrender to the social-justice warriors and vowed never to watch the show again. And those with better things to do used their Sunday in more productive pursuits, such as betting on which character(s) would die on the season premiere of Game of Thrones.
I don’t care about reactions to the announcement, positive or negative. My concern is the impact such a radical change will have on the fabric of a series whose first episode aired the day after the JFK assassination, and fans’ relationship to it, a relationship that has experienced more than its share of trials and tribulations. Put simply, Jodie Whittaker’s success in the role will depend on whether she’s the Doctor or a woman first. Yet because of the circumstances in which she was chosen, she may not be able to be either.
Until now there was never a question of whether the Doctor would be a man or the Doctor first, since there was no distinction between the two. With Whittaker’s assumption of the role, that distinction will now exist. Something in the Doctor’s character will change. The question is whether what is changing is fundamental. I would say yes; sex is an integral component of personal identity. The BBC thinks otherwise. It must, or it wouldn’t be making the change.
From Doctor Who’s inception, its makers have operated under the assumption that their hero is male. One need only look at how he has been characterized over the last half-century to see the truth of this. Take the current Doctor. He is abrupt, condescending, domineering, and brusque, has little sense of social decorum, and often treats humans as amusing pets who can talk but have nothing worthwhile to say. He doesn’t suffer fools gladly or care what others think. The Doctor’s lack of social graces became so bad that his traveling companion had him write cue cards with dialogue suggestions on them so he could feign a modicum of empathy and have normal interactions with the humans he met.
Whatever the Doctor’s personality in each incarnation, its traits are generally ones we associate with men. From William Hartnell’s grandfatherly gentility (the First Doctor was literally a grandfather, his first companion being his granddaughter) to Peter Capaldi’s evolution from “rude genius” to “aging rock star” to “hip teacher,” the Doctor has been recognizably male.
This is one reason why the transformation may seem especially dramatic with a woman replacing Capaldi, whose Twelfth Doctor is something of a jerk. Many of his characteristics are the type that, though tolerated (and even encouraged) in a man, are much less so in a woman; indeed, are the sort that get a woman who exhibits them labeled “bossy” or a “bitch.”
Each Doctor has a different personality and temperament. So too will the 13th. Yet by making the Doctor a woman, new showrunner Chris Chibnall and company have placed themselves on the horns of a dilemma.
Even the kind of fictional character the Doctor is, is prototypically male: the eccentric mad scientist. None of the Doctors was madder or more eccentric than Tom Baker’s Fourth, with his teeth and curls, impossibly long scarf, and penchant to offer jelly babies to everyone he encountered. The Eleventh, as eccentric as ever, described himself as a “mad man with a box,” a box that travels anywhere in time and space. An eccentric woman is Eleanor Abernathy.
Each Doctor has a different personality and temperament. So too will the 13th. Yet by making the Doctor a woman, new showrunner Chris Chibnall and company have placed themselves on the horns of a dilemma. The 13th Doctor must be different, but in ways that cannot be immediately attributed to her biology. For if she is different in ways that can be chalked up to her being female, then it does make a difference that she’s a woman. Whereas the whole point of casting a woman in the role is to prove that it doesn’t matter. (Though I suspect those who spent the past decade advocating the change rather think it does.)
The Doctor can be a woman because there’s nothing special about being one. There’s nothing unique or significant about womanhood. It’s not an essential trait or characteristic — and that is the only way the Doctor can still be the Doctor while being a woman, that it is something indifferent. For if the Doctor changes in some fundamental way because he is now a woman, then he won’t be the Doctor any more. Which would mean, therefore, that in fact the Doctor can’t be a woman. Hence the dilemma.
The most beloved of all the Doctor’s companions, Sarah Jane Smith, once asserted that “there’s nothing only about being a girl.” The BBC no longer agrees. Actions speak louder than words, and the BBC’s says that men and women are interchangeable.
What purpose, then, does making the Doctor a woman serve? If the answer is that “it proves that a woman can be the Doctor,” that is an answer in terms of the real world. What is the answer to that question in terms of Doctor Who? That’s the question to ask. What will change with a female Doctor?
One of the main differences between the current version of the show and the original that aired from 1963 to 1989 is that there is, to coin a phrase, a lot more hanky-panky in the TARDIS now than there used to be. The Tenth Doctor, played by David Tennant, was something of a romantic idol. His female companions pined after him. Matt Smith’s Eleventh Doctor even became a husband, marrying a character who in a plot twist was revealed to be the daughter of his companions. With Capaldi, the oldest actor to play the part in several decades, occupying the TARDIS, the program has been thankfully free of soap-operatic elements.
One can readily envision them returning with Whittaker, who is 35. The relationship stuff was tedious when the Doctor was a man. Imagine how rebarbative it will be after three years of everyone hitting on a female Doctor, villains included. And worse yet, commenting on her looks and questioning her intelligence, competence, authority, leadership, what have you. Aha! you say, that’s exactly what happens to women in the real world. Just so. But Doctor Who is not a university course on sociology. It’s a television program. A single note played endlessly can no longer be heard.
It’s an interesting thought experiment, turning the Doctor into a woman and seeing how people react to that. But a TV show isn’t a thought experiment. One season of “Oh my God, Doctor, you have breasts!” would be bad enough. Three seasons’ worth, the average length of an actor’s time in the role, would be intolerable. Viewers will get very tired very fast of being reminded each episode that the Doctor has internal plumbing now.
The temptation to remind them will be strong, especially if hostility to Whittaker’s casting persists or even increases. When asked in February about the possibility of a woman’s taking over the role, Chibnall declared that he didn’t want the casting of the new Doctor to be a gimmick. Yet in a statement accompanying the announcement of Whittaker’s casting, he proclaimed that he always wanted the 13th Doctor to be a woman.
Either Chibnall is lying now or he was lying in February, because casting a woman in the lead after it’s been played by men since the program’s debut is the definition of a gimmick. It can’t come across any other way. This puts Whittaker in an untenable situation, since she is being asked to solve problems that are beyond her ability and remit to fix.
Doctor Who’s ratings are currently half of what they were at the peak of the revival’s popularity at the start of the decade. A common refrain is to attribute this decline to Capaldi’s age; younger audiences, this argument runs, simply can’t relate to an older Doctor. More likely, fans have realized that the show is out of ideas and running on fumes.
The series is ripping itself off more and more. This season was especially egregious, with each episode containing numerous homages, references, and allusions to earlier stories. The season finale was especially notable in this regard. It was inevitable that “new” Who would borrow elements from “classic” Who. They are, after all, supposed to be the same show. The problem lately is that new Whohas taken to rehashing itself. Stories in this, its tenth season, bore strong resemblances to ones that aired only a few years ago.
The problems besetting Doctor Who are of a nature that cannot be resolved by giving the Doctor a sex change. Repetitive plots, convoluted story arcs, uninteresting villains — what ails the show isn’t who plays the Doctor but unimaginative writing that more and more each week rehashes and repackages earlier storylines. Doctor Who has become one big metacommentary on itself. No wonder fans have gotten bored and casual viewers have drifted away.
How does Jodie Whittaker solve that? If you’re just going to do the standard base-under-siege or monster-of-the-week scenario, but now with double the X chromosomes, the metamorphosis is literally going to be a cosmetic one. This would make casting a woman seem even more like a gimmick born of desperation to boost ratings.
The pressure on Whittaker to deliver will be immense. The pressure on fans will be even greater. Which is why the most unforgivable consequence of the BBC’s decision is the way it forever alters fans’ relationship to Doctor Who.
Every fan likes some Doctors (my favorite is the Fifth, played by Peter Davison) more than others. Hitherto this has been a matter of personal taste and aesthetics. No one suspects ulterior motives if a fan doesn’t take a shine to William Hartnell’s First Doctor, an obstreperous codger whose serials unfold at a leisurely, even turgid pace in black-and-white without modern flourishes; or dislikes Jon Pertwee’s Third Doctor, whose adventures often descend into interminable environmental sermonizing.
Will anyone be allowed to dislike the 13th Doctor for normal reasons? I doubt it and strongly suspect anyone who demurs will reflexively be accused of sexism. The imperative to defend Whittaker’s selection and everything it stands for will simply be too strong to overcome. As Hannah Long writes, “the casting insulate[s] the show from any artistic criticism, because it elevates the enterprise from entertainment to cause.”
The producers have made it so that liking (or not) the new Doctor can no longer be merely a matter of individual preference. It is, rather, an obligation, a duty, an expression of one’s social and ideological attitudes. Embracing her is a sign you’re a good citizen and human being. To oppose her is to oppose progress and the emancipation of women. The BBC needn’t worry. Its viewers would never do anything so vulgar. They’re too busy basking in the good feelings to wonder why a TV show that is a half century old suddenly must transform itself into a vehicle for proselytizing feminism or why one person’s art should be conscripted into another person’s cause.
What happens if they start wondering? Who gets the blame if things go wrong, if the 13th Doctor proves unlucky? Whittaker, for not being up to the task of bearing the burden placed on her shoulders? Or will fans be accused of being Luddites unwilling to accept the 21st century?
A recurrent motif in “new” Who is that the Doctor is a killer with the blood of countless beings on his hands. His quest for redemption for having annihilated his own people to end a war that threatened the universe is arguably the primary theme of the 2005 revival. The Doctor’s decision to wipe out his own people to end the war and save creation was so awful, so cataclysmic, that future Doctors disowned the incarnation that made it, denying him even the name “Doctor.”
It was a judgment imbued with a kind of divine fury and righteousness. It was terrible. Yet it was just. In other words, exactly the sort of decision we can envision a man making. Can we envision a woman making it? Can there, that is, be a female War Doctor (as the Doctor who made it is known)? And if there were, for which would she incur more opprobrium — pushing the button, or not? Such is the trap the BBC has now placed itself in. People will complain when a woman acts like the Doctor — and when the Doctor acts like a woman.
If the Doctor can’t be a woman, then Doctor Who with a woman in the title role is no longer Doctor Who. With this change, something essential, something ineffable, is being lost which, once gone, will never be regained. The Cloister Bell is tolling. I fear it won’t stop as long as the 13th Doctor is piloting the TARDIS.

-- Varad Mehta is a historian who lives in suburban Philadelphia.
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Jodie Whittaker as the new Dr. Who
By changing its main character into a woman, the producers of Doctor Who have irrevocably altered the show and fans’ relationship to it.
National Review whining about a character being a woman, what are the odds?
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July 22, 2017 8:00 AM
Jodie Whittaker as the new Dr. Who
By changing its main character into a woman, the producers of Doctor Who have irrevocably altered the show and fans’ relationship to it.
National Review whining about a character being a woman, what are the odds?
You might want to familiarize yourself with the meaning of the word "whine" so you don't
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Jodie Whittaker as the new Dr. Who
By changing its main character into a woman, the producers of Doctor Who have irrevocably altered the show and fans’ relationship to it.
National Review whining about a character being a woman, what are the odds?
You might want to familiarize yourself with the meaning of the word "whine" so you don't
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Jodie Whittaker as the new Dr. Who
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National Review whining about a character being a woman, what are the odds?
You might want to familiarize yourself with the meaning of the word
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July 22, 2017 8:00 AM
Jodie Whittaker as the new Dr. Who
By changing its main character into a woman, the producers of Doctor Who have irrevocably altered the show and fans’ relationship to it.
National Review whining about a character being a woman, what are the odds?
You might want to familiarize yourself with the meaning of the word "whine" so you don't
make a fool of yourself again.
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Jodie Whittaker as the new Dr. Who
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it.
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National Review whining about a character being a woman, what are the odds?
You might want to familiarize yourself with the meaning of the word
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make a fool of yourself again.
What's the matter? Jealous of someone coming for your crown?
Don't sweat it, you have nothing to worry about.
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By VARAD MEHTA
      July 22, 2017 8:00 AM
Jodie Whittaker as the new Dr. Who
By changing its main character into a woman, the producers of Doctor
Who have irrevocably altered the show and fans’ relationship
to it.
National Review whining about a character being a woman, what are the odds?
You might want to familiarize yourself with the meaning of the word "whine" so you don't
make a fool of yourself again.
What's the matter?  Jealous of someone coming for your crown?
Don't sweat it, you have nothing to worry about.
I think Ubi lost a debate with himself just by posting that drivel. And
doesn't he know that comments about what whining is aren't TV related?

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Jodie Whittaker as the new Dr. Who
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Who have irrevocably altered the show and fans’ relationship to
it.
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National Review whining about a character being a woman, what are the odds?
You might want to familiarize yourself with the meaning of the word "whine" so you don't
make a fool of yourself again.
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have to audit liberals & wire tap reporters' phones.
good point.
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By VARAD MEHTA
July 22, 2017 8:00 AM
Jodie Whittaker as the new Dr. Who
By changing its main character into a woman, the producers of Doctor Who have irrevocably altered the show and fans’ relationship to it.
National Review whining about a character being a woman, what are the odds?
You might want to familiarize yourself with the meaning of the word "whine" so you don't
make a fool of yourself again.
What's the matter? Jealous of someone coming for your crown?
Don't sweat it, you have nothing to worry about.
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Jodie Whittaker as the new Dr. Who
By changing its main character into a woman, the producers of Doctor
Who have irrevocably altered the show and fans’ relationship to
it.
National Review whining about a character being a woman, what are the odds?
Over 50%?
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By VARAD MEHTA
     July 22, 2017 8:00 AM
Jodie Whittaker as the new Dr. Who
By changing its main character into a woman, the producers of
Doctor Who have irrevocably altered the show and fans'
relationship to it.
Well, duh! The producers are _always_ irrevocably altering the show and
the fans' relationship to it. That's part of their job. There's something
wrong if they don't. (Or do the people at the National Review really
think the programme hasn't changed since 1963?)
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By VARAD MEHTA
July 22, 2017 8:00 AM
Jodie Whittaker as the new Dr. Who
By changing its main character into a woman, the producers of
Doctor Who have irrevocably altered the show and fans'
relationship to it.
Well, duh! The producers are _always_ irrevocably altering the show and
the fans' relationship to it. That's part of their job. There's something
wrong if they don't. (Or do the people at the National Review really
That's not what they're supposed to do unless there's something wrong
with it. The fact that they did this when there was nothing wrong with
it is what has ruined it.
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think the programme hasn't changed since 1963?)
The Doctor was always a man. What was wrong with him being a man?
Capaldi was a bad choice of actor, and Moffat should have quit at the
same time of Matt Smith or been sacked after Capaldi's first series.
That's when it all began to go to the dogs. Going further and further
down PC loony lane which has caused viewing figures to collapse is
totally crazy!
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By VARAD MEHTA
July 22, 2017 8:00 AM
Jodie Whittaker as the new Dr. Who
By changing its main character into a woman, the producers of
Doctor Who have irrevocably altered the show and fans'
relationship to it.
Well, duh! The producers are _always_ irrevocably altering the show and
the fans' relationship to it. That's part of their job. There's something
wrong if they don't. (Or do the people at the National Review really
That's not what they're supposed to do unless there's something wrong
with it. The fact that they did this when there was nothing wrong with
it is what has ruined it.
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think the programme hasn't changed since 1963?)
The Doctor was always a man. What was wrong with him being a man?
Capaldi was a bad choice of actor, and Moffat should have quit at the
same time of Matt Smith or been sacked after Capaldi's first series.
That's when it all began to go to the dogs. Going further and further
down PC loony lane which has caused viewing figures to collapse is
totally crazy!
Solar PEnguin should become solar sheep.
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By VARAD MEHTA
July 22, 2017 8:00 AM
Jodie Whittaker as the new Dr. Who
By changing its main character into a woman, the producers of
Doctor Who have irrevocably altered the show and fans'
relationship to it.
Well, duh! The producers are _always_ irrevocably altering the show and
the fans' relationship to it. That's part of their job. There's something
wrong if they don't. (Or do the people at the National Review really
That's not what they're supposed to do unless there's something wrong
with it. The fact that they did this when there was nothing wrong with
it is what has ruined it.
Oh really? Was there nothing wrong with it?
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think the programme hasn't changed since 1963?)
The Doctor was always a man. What was wrong with him being a man?
Actually at first he was always old. What was wrong with him being old?
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Capaldi was a bad choice of actor, and Moffat should have quit at the
same time of Matt Smith or been sacked after Capaldi's first series.
That's when it all began to go to the dogs.
So much for there not being something wrong with it.
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Why Can't the Doctor Be More Like a Woman?
By VARAD MEHTA
July 22, 2017 8:00 AM
Jodie Whittaker as the new Dr. Who
By changing its main character into a woman, the producers of
Doctor Who have irrevocably altered the show and fans'
relationship to it.
Well, duh! The producers are _always_ irrevocably altering the show
and
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the fans' relationship to it. That's part of their job. There's something
wrong if they don't. (Or do the people at the National Review really
That's not what they're supposed to do unless there's something wrong
with it. The fact that they did this when there was nothing wrong with
it is what has ruined it.
Oh really? Was there nothing wrong with it?
It was getting ratings of over 8 million with Eccleston, Tennant, and
Smith. Then the fool Moffat starting going down PC loony lane, turning
Capladi into the 6th Doctor, and writing sentimentalist garbage for him
after the Matt Smith scripts ran out and the ratings halved. And what is
Chibnall now doing? Going even further down PC loony lane and alienating
even more viewers.
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think the programme hasn't changed since 1963?)
The Doctor was always a man. What was wrong with him being a man?
Actually at first he was always old. What was wrong with him being old?
He's still old. He should have been portrayed as acting his age instead
of acting like a child pretending to be a superhero.
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Capaldi was a bad choice of actor, and Moffat should have quit at the
same time of Matt Smith or been sacked after Capaldi's first series.
That's when it all began to go to the dogs.
So much for there not being something wrong with it.
Capaldi was bad enough. Now we have Whittaker inserted into the series
as a gimmick, who can't even talk properly so that people can understand
a word she's saying.
David Johnston
2018-02-27 20:49:15 UTC
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 >>>> Why Can't the Doctor Be More Like a Woman?
 >>>> By VARAD MEHTA
 >>>>      July 22, 2017 8:00 AM
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 >>>> Jodie Whittaker as the new Dr. Who
 >>>>
 >>>> By changing its main character into a woman, the producers of
 >>>> Doctor Who have irrevocably altered the show and fans'
 >>>> relationship to it.
 >>
 >> Well, duh!  The producers are _always_ irrevocably altering the
show and
 >> the fans' relationship to it.  That's part of their job.  There's
 >> something
 >> wrong if they don't. (Or do the people at the National Review really
 >
 > That's not what they're supposed to do unless there's something wrong
 > with it. The fact that they did this when there was nothing wrong with
 > it is what has ruined it.
Oh really?  Was there nothing wrong with it?
It was getting ratings of over 8 million with Eccleston, Tennant, and
Smith. Then the fool Moffat starting going down PC loony lane, turning
Capladi into the 6th Doctor, and writing sentimentalist garbage for him
after the Matt Smith scripts ran out and the ratings halved. And what is
Chibnall now doing? Going even further down PC loony lane and alienating
even more viewers.
So in short, yes. There was something wrong with it. Even if they fix
the writing issues, they have the problem that they've lost audience who
aren't coming back unless they do something to attract attention back to
the series.
The Doctor
2018-02-27 21:43:16 UTC
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https://www.nationalreview.com/2017/07/doctor-who-jodie-whittaker-takes-over-role/
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 >>>> CULTURE
 >>>> Why Can't the Doctor Be More Like a Woman?
 >>>> By VARAD MEHTA
 >>>>      July 22, 2017 8:00 AM
 >>>>
 >>>> Jodie Whittaker as the new Dr. Who
 >>>>
 >>>> By changing its main character into a woman, the producers of
 >>>> Doctor Who have irrevocably altered the show and fans'
 >>>> relationship to it.
 >>
 >> Well, duh!  The producers are _always_ irrevocably altering the
show and
 >> the fans' relationship to it.  That's part of their job.  There's
 >> something
 >> wrong if they don't. (Or do the people at the National Review really
 >
 > That's not what they're supposed to do unless there's something wrong
 > with it. The fact that they did this when there was nothing wrong with
 > it is what has ruined it.
Oh really?  Was there nothing wrong with it?
It was getting ratings of over 8 million with Eccleston, Tennant, and
Smith. Then the fool Moffat starting going down PC loony lane, turning
Capladi into the 6th Doctor, and writing sentimentalist garbage for him
after the Matt Smith scripts ran out and the ratings halved. And what is
Chibnall now doing? Going even further down PC loony lane and alienating
even more viewers.
So in short, yes. There was something wrong with it. Even if they fix
the writing issues, they have the problem that they've lost audience who
aren't coming back unless they do something to attract attention back to
the series.
Back to correct the 12 to 13 regen!!
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The Last Doctor
2018-02-27 21:47:12 UTC
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CULTURE
Why Can't the Doctor Be More Like a Woman?
By VARAD MEHTA
      July 22, 2017 8:00 AM
Jodie Whittaker as the new Dr. Who
By changing its main character into a woman, the producers of
Doctor Who have irrevocably altered the show and fans'
relationship to it.
Well, duh!  The producers are _always_ irrevocably altering the
show and
Post by Agamemnon
the fans' relationship to it.  That's part of their job.  There's
something
wrong if they don't. (Or do the people at the National Review really
That's not what they're supposed to do unless there's something wrong
with it. The fact that they did this when there was nothing wrong with
it is what has ruined it.
Oh really?  Was there nothing wrong with it?
It was getting ratings of over 8 million with Eccleston, Tennant, and
Smith. Then the fool Moffat starting going down PC loony lane, turning
Capladi into the 6th Doctor, and writing sentimentalist garbage for him
after the Matt Smith scripts ran out and the ratings halved. And what is
Chibnall now doing? Going even further down PC loony lane and alienating
even more viewers.
So in short, yes. There was something wrong with it. Even if they fix
the writing issues, they have the problem that they've lost audience who
aren't coming back unless they do something to attract attention back to
the series.
Except that it HASN’T lost audience in terms of audience share. Dilution of
audience, proliferation of live channels, and the rise of streaming, mean
that over the last decade the audience of all TV dramas has fallen by an
average of 40% in the last decade.

Doctor Who’s audience has fallen by only 30% in the same time. In other
words, it’s outperformed the market.

Ten years ago, Doctor Who was always a top 10 rated show for the BBC and
one of its top three dramas. By contrast, in 2017, Doctor Who was always a
top 10 rated show for the BBC and one of its top three dramas.

I guess it’s possible that the changes will make the show even MORE
successful than it currently is. (Statistically, if current trends
continue, if it manages more than 85% of last year’s ratings, that will be
the case - no matter what the doomsayers try to say about it).
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things. Things which act against everything we believe in. They must be
fought.
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2018-02-27 22:14:27 UTC
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CULTURE
Why Can't the Doctor Be More Like a Woman?
By VARAD MEHTA
July 22, 2017 8:00 AM
Jodie Whittaker as the new Dr. Who
By changing its main character into a woman, the producers of
Doctor Who have irrevocably altered the show and fans'
relationship to it.
Well, duh! The producers are _always_ irrevocably altering the
show and
Post by Agamemnon
Post by solar penguin
the fans' relationship to it. That's part of their job. There's something
wrong if they don't. (Or do the people at the National Review really
That's not what they're supposed to do unless there's something wrong
with it. The fact that they did this when there was nothing wrong with
it is what has ruined it.
Oh really? Was there nothing wrong with it?
It was getting ratings of over 8 million with Eccleston, Tennant, and
Smith. Then the fool Moffat starting going down PC loony lane, turning
Capladi into the 6th Doctor, and writing sentimentalist garbage for him
after the Matt Smith scripts ran out and the ratings halved. And what is
Chibnall now doing? Going even further down PC loony lane and alienating
even more viewers.
So in short, yes. There was something wrong with it. Even if they fix
the writing issues, they have the problem that they've lost audience who
aren't coming back unless they do something to attract attention back to
the series.
Except that it HASN’T lost audience in terms of audience share. Dilution of
OH YES IT HAS!

Tennant was getting over 40% of audience share. Capaldi could only
manage barely over 20%.
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audience, proliferation of live channels, and the rise of streaming, mean
that over the last decade the audience of all TV dramas has fallen by an
average of 40% in the last decade.
Not the good ones. People have just stopped watching the garbage like
EastEnders and Coronation Street because there's better stuff to watch
or do.
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Doctor Who’s audience has fallen by only 30% in the same time. In other
words, it’s outperformed the market.
Poppycock and dissembling. Why hasn't the BBC license fee fallen by 40%
over the past decade to correspond to the fact that its license fee
payers are no longer being served properly properly by it?

Tennant was getting over 40% of audience share. Capaldi could only
manage barely over 20%.
Post by The Last Doctor
Ten years ago, Doctor Who was always a top 10 rated show for the BBC and
one of its top three dramas. By contrast, in 2017, Doctor Who was always a
top 10 rated show for the BBC and one of its top three dramas.
Which only goes to show the deterioration of the BBC in general.
Post by The Last Doctor
I guess it’s possible that the changes will make the show even MORE
successful than it currently is. (Statistically, if current trends
continue, if it manages more than 85% of last year’s ratings, that will be
the case - no matter what the doomsayers try to say about it).
Hogwash!

Doctor Who effectively went down the toilet after the end of Series 8
with Capaldi. When it came back for Series 9 it instantly lost 25% of
its audience in the space of about a year, thanks to the Master being
turned into a woman, and continued in the same manner for Series 10.

This wasn't due to a general downward trend in audience figures. The
audience share went down too. It was down to the deliberate alienation
of the viewers with a sexist, racist, anti-Christian, anti-heterosexual
political agenda.

The only way Doctor Who can survive is to be done with the sexist,
racist, anti-Christian, anti-heterosexual PC loony left agenda and to
once again make the show for the people most likely to watch it, the
majority, boys, men, and science fiction fans.
The Doctor
2018-02-27 22:50:32 UTC
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CULTURE
Why Can't the Doctor Be More Like a Woman?
By VARAD MEHTA
July 22, 2017 8:00 AM
Jodie Whittaker as the new Dr. Who
By changing its main character into a woman, the producers of
Doctor Who have irrevocably altered the show and fans'
relationship to it.
Well, duh! The producers are _always_ irrevocably altering the
show and
Post by Agamemnon
Post by solar penguin
the fans' relationship to it. That's part of their job. There's something
wrong if they don't. (Or do the people at the National Review really
That's not what they're supposed to do unless there's something wrong
with it. The fact that they did this when there was nothing wrong with
it is what has ruined it.
Oh really? Was there nothing wrong with it?
It was getting ratings of over 8 million with Eccleston, Tennant, and
Smith. Then the fool Moffat starting going down PC loony lane, turning
Capladi into the 6th Doctor, and writing sentimentalist garbage for him
after the Matt Smith scripts ran out and the ratings halved. And what is
Chibnall now doing? Going even further down PC loony lane and alienating
even more viewers.
So in short, yes. There was something wrong with it. Even if they fix
the writing issues, they have the problem that they've lost audience who
aren't coming back unless they do something to attract attention back to
the series.
Except that it HASN’T lost audience in terms of audience share. Dilution of
OH YES IT HAS!
Tennant was getting over 40% of audience share. Capaldi could only
manage barely over 20%.
audience, proliferation of live channels, and the rise of streaming, mean
that over the last decade the audience of all TV dramas has fallen by an
average of 40% in the last decade.
Not the good ones. People have just stopped watching the garbage like
EastEnders and Coronation Street because there's better stuff to watch
or do.
Doctor Who’s audience has fallen by only 30% in the same time. In other
words, it’s outperformed the market.
Poppycock and dissembling. Why hasn't the BBC license fee fallen by 40%
over the past decade to correspond to the fact that its license fee
payers are no longer being served properly properly by it?
Tennant was getting over 40% of audience share. Capaldi could only
manage barely over 20%.
Ten years ago, Doctor Who was always a top 10 rated show for the BBC and
one of its top three dramas. By contrast, in 2017, Doctor Who was always a
top 10 rated show for the BBC and one of its top three dramas.
Which only goes to show the deterioration of the BBC in general.
I guess it’s possible that the changes will make the show even MORE
successful than it currently is. (Statistically, if current trends
continue, if it manages more than 85% of last year’s ratings, that will be
the case - no matter what the doomsayers try to say about it).
Hogwash!
Doctor Who effectively went down the toilet after the end of Series 8
with Capaldi. When it came back for Series 9 it instantly lost 25% of
its audience in the space of about a year, thanks to the Master being
turned into a woman, and continued in the same manner for Series 10.
This wasn't due to a general downward trend in audience figures. The
audience share went down too. It was down to the deliberate alienation
of the viewers with a sexist, racist, anti-Christian, anti-heterosexual
political agenda.
The only way Doctor Who can survive is to be done with the sexist,
racist, anti-Christian, anti-heterosexual PC loony left agenda and to
once again make the show for the people most likely to watch it, the
majority, boys, men, and science fiction fans.
Right on Ag!
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The Last Doctor
2018-02-28 07:31:08 UTC
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Why Can't the Doctor Be More Like a Woman?
By VARAD MEHTA
July 22, 2017 8:00 AM
Jodie Whittaker as the new Dr. Who
By changing its main character into a woman, the producers of
Doctor Who have irrevocably altered the show and fans'
relationship to it.
Well, duh! The producers are _always_ irrevocably altering the
show and
Post by Agamemnon
Post by solar penguin
the fans' relationship to it. That's part of their job. There's something
wrong if they don't. (Or do the people at the National Review really
That's not what they're supposed to do unless there's something wrong
with it. The fact that they did this when there was nothing wrong with
it is what has ruined it.
Oh really? Was there nothing wrong with it?
It was getting ratings of over 8 million with Eccleston, Tennant, and
Smith. Then the fool Moffat starting going down PC loony lane, turning
Capladi into the 6th Doctor, and writing sentimentalist garbage for him
after the Matt Smith scripts ran out and the ratings halved. And what is
Chibnall now doing? Going even further down PC loony lane and alienating
even more viewers.
So in short, yes. There was something wrong with it. Even if they fix
the writing issues, they have the problem that they've lost audience who
aren't coming back unless they do something to attract attention back to
the series.
Except that it HASN’T lost audience in terms of audience share. Dilution of
OH YES IT HAS!
Tennant was getting over 40% of audience share. Capaldi could only
manage barely over 20%.
Don’t you understand what dilution means? You need to compare against how
the BBC fared overall. NO drama gets the kind of absolute audience OR
absolute audience share that it did a decade ago.
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Post by The Last Doctor
audience, proliferation of live channels, and the rise of streaming, mean
that over the last decade the audience of all TV dramas has fallen by an
average of 40% in the last decade.
Not the good ones. People have just stopped watching the garbage like
EastEnders and Coronation Street because there's better stuff to watch
or do.
Actually they’ve stopped or reduced watching of almost everything, even
sport. But especially drama. Only special one-offs with major promotion
buck the trend. And even then they only exceed Doctor Who’s audience if
they have a particularly female skewed demographic (Doctor Foster, Call the
Midwife, Poldark).

And EastEnders? Yes its audience has fallen off a cliff. So the FACT that
it’s always four of the top 6 shows on BBC One should tell you the truth
about audiences. That’s still their flagship soap and drama, just like
Doctor Who is their flagship family/fantasy drama. A successful formula
they keep trying and failing fully to replicate (Merlin, Atlantis, Robin
Hood).

Everything’s relative, except your pointless fury which always seems to be
turned up to 11.
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Doctor Who’s audience has fallen by only 30% in the same time. In other
words, it’s outperformed the market.
Poppycock and dissembling. Why hasn't the BBC license fee fallen by 40%
over the past decade to correspond to the fact that its license fee
payers are no longer being served properly properly by it?
Those are non sequiturs. The BBC has to make as much television as before
so its funding doesn’t reduce. Audience is not related to revenue for the
BBC in that way.

And only people like you (and Government, usually) feel that the licence
payers aren’t being “properly served”. People watch less TV. Full stop.
That means more money per set of eyes is spent on every minute of
television. Goes across the board.
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Post by The Last Doctor
Ten years ago, Doctor Who was always a top 10 rated show for the BBC and
one of its top three dramas. By contrast, in 2017, Doctor Who was always a
top 10 rated show for the BBC and one of its top three dramas.
Which only goes to show the deterioration of the BBC in general.
TELEVISION. The BBC isn’t doing any worse than any other network. Doctor
Who isn’t performing worse over time than any other show.
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Post by The Last Doctor
I guess it’s possible that the changes will make the show even MORE
successful than it currently is. (Statistically, if current trends
continue, if it manages more than 85% of last year’s ratings, that will be
the case - no matter what the doomsayers try to say about it).
Hogwash!
Doomsayer.
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Doctor Who effectively went down the toilet after the end of Series 8
with Capaldi. When it came back for Series 9 it instantly lost 25% of
its audience in the space of about a year, thanks to the Master being
turned into a woman, and continued in the same manner for Series 10.
This wasn't due to a general downward trend in audience figures. The
audience share went down too. It was down to the deliberate alienation
of the viewers with a sexist, racist, anti-Christian, anti-heterosexual
political agenda.
The only way Doctor Who can survive is to be done with the sexist,
racist, anti-Christian, anti-heterosexual PC loony left agenda and to
once again make the show for the people most likely to watch it, the
majority, boys, men, and science fiction fans.
Your lunatic rants don’t change the facts. None of the factors you give
above make sense.

Racist? Not Doctor Who. Your comments about Pearl Mackie’s looks give away
your position on racism, and not in a good way.

Sexist? Not Doctor Who. No-one who uses the works of John Norman as a moral
compass can use the word sexist about anyone else with any credibility.

Anti-Christian? Not Doctor Who. It may go against fundamentalist Levite
Biblical literalist views - but then all rational drama and the facts of
the real world do too. Can’t single it out for throwing sanity in the face
of Fundamentalists.

Anti-heterosexual? Not Doctor Who. Amy and Rory? Clara and Danny? Donna and
anyone who’ll have her? Martha and Mickey? Rose and Mickey? River? The
existence of other sexualities is supplemental to heterosexuality. It
doesn’t detract from it. Only people deeply uncomfortable with their own
sexuality get the uncomfortable with other people’s, in my experience.

“PC loony far left?” Ah, you mean fair and socially aware. Yes, alt-right
ultra conservative racist sexist nut jobs might categorise Doctor Who, and
indeed most of the social attitudes of the twenty-first century, as “PC
loony far left”. Indeed, they often do, to the point that even using those
words automatically mean their arguments are meaningless and should be
ignored. No one so incapable of separating their emotional biases from
objective reality can be argued with logically.

As you’re about to demonstrate.
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2018-02-28 11:00:34 UTC
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Why Can't the Doctor Be More Like a Woman?
By VARAD MEHTA
July 22, 2017 8:00 AM
Jodie Whittaker as the new Dr. Who
By changing its main character into a woman, the producers of
Doctor Who have irrevocably altered the show and fans'
relationship to it.
Well, duh! The producers are _always_ irrevocably altering the
show and
Post by Agamemnon
Post by solar penguin
the fans' relationship to it. That's part of their job. There's something
wrong if they don't. (Or do the people at the National Review really
That's not what they're supposed to do unless there's something wrong
with it. The fact that they did this when there was nothing wrong with
it is what has ruined it.
Oh really? Was there nothing wrong with it?
It was getting ratings of over 8 million with Eccleston, Tennant, and
Smith. Then the fool Moffat starting going down PC loony lane, turning
Capladi into the 6th Doctor, and writing sentimentalist garbage for him
after the Matt Smith scripts ran out and the ratings halved. And what is
Chibnall now doing? Going even further down PC loony lane and alienating
even more viewers.
So in short, yes. There was something wrong with it. Even if they fix
the writing issues, they have the problem that they've lost audience who
aren't coming back unless they do something to attract attention back to
the series.
Except that it HASN’T lost audience in terms of audience share. Dilution of
OH YES IT HAS!
Tennant was getting over 40% of audience share. Capaldi could only
manage barely over 20%.
Don’t you understand what dilution means? You need to compare against how
the BBC fared overall. NO drama gets the kind of absolute audience OR
absolute audience share that it did a decade ago.
Doctor Who was doing fine until the last 2 series which Moffat took up
PC loony lane at the expense of good writing.
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audience, proliferation of live channels, and the rise of streaming, mean
that over the last decade the audience of all TV dramas has fallen by an
average of 40% in the last decade.
Not the good ones. People have just stopped watching the garbage like
EastEnders and Coronation Street because there's better stuff to watch
or do.
Actually they’ve stopped or reduced watching of almost everything, even
sport. But especially drama. Only special one-offs with major promotion
buck the trend. And even then they only exceed Doctor Who’s audience if
they have a particularly female skewed demographic (Doctor Foster, Call the
Midwife, Poldark).
Because the broadcasters have totally pissed off the male viewers by
going down PC loony lane for so long.

Poldark only attracts female viewers because of Aiden Turner. Where's
the love interest in Doctor Who? It should have been clearly evident
that Capaldi failed to provide it, and after Danny Pink was killed off
there was nothing, and the following series were a disaster.
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And EastEnders? Yes its audience has fallen off a cliff. So the FACT that
it’s always four of the top 6 shows on BBC One should tell you the truth
about audiences. That’s still their flagship soap and drama, just like
Doctor Who is their flagship family/fantasy drama. A successful formula
they keep trying and failing fully to replicate (Merlin, Atlantis, Robin
Hood).
Merlin and Robin Hood did not fail. Atlantis was ok for the first series
but the second totally lost the plot thanks to the terrible standard of
modern writing and Jason's mother being made the main focus of the story
line. Like I said, women don't want to watch women in this type of
genera and Atlantis became totally illogical and irrational so men
stopped watching.
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Everything’s relative, except your pointless fury which always seems to be
turned up to 11.
It all comes down to political correctness fostering bad writing and
clueless production. You only have to read the terrible reviews for
Troy: Fall of a City to see how bad things have become; crass modern
dialogue, slow boring soap opera, terrible characterization, all the
most important elements of Greek mythology thrown out of the window, and
the villainous abductor and rapist of Helen, Paris, made into the hero.
And that's before we even come to the racist cultural appropriation.
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Doctor Who’s audience has fallen by only 30% in the same time. In other
words, it’s outperformed the market.
Poppycock and dissembling. Why hasn't the BBC license fee fallen by 40%
over the past decade to correspond to the fact that its license fee
payers are no longer being served properly properly by it?
Those are non sequiturs. The BBC has to make as much television as before
so its funding doesn’t reduce. Audience is not related to revenue for the
BBC in that way.
Why does it have to make as much television as before when people are
not watching it? How about it making something good and worth watching
for once?
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And only people like you (and Government, usually) feel that the licence
payers aren’t being “properly served”. People watch less TV. Full stop.
That means more money per set of eyes is spent on every minute of
television. Goes across the board.
So the license fee is nothing more than a free gravy train for bad
writers and bad actors.
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Ten years ago, Doctor Who was always a top 10 rated show for the BBC and
one of its top three dramas. By contrast, in 2017, Doctor Who was always a
top 10 rated show for the BBC and one of its top three dramas.
Which only goes to show the deterioration of the BBC in general.
TELEVISION. The BBC isn’t doing any worse than any other network. Doctor
Who isn’t performing worse over time than any other show.
Yes it is. Poldark has kept its audience figures steady over the last 3
series. Doctor Who lost up to 1/3 of its audience over the last 2. It
fell of a cliff from Series 9 onward.
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I guess it’s possible that the changes will make the show even MORE
successful than it currently is. (Statistically, if current trends
continue, if it manages more than 85% of last year’s ratings, that will be
the case - no matter what the doomsayers try to say about it).
Hogwash!
Doomsayer.
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Doctor Who effectively went down the toilet after the end of Series 8
with Capaldi. When it came back for Series 9 it instantly lost 25% of
its audience in the space of about a year, thanks to the Master being
turned into a woman, and continued in the same manner for Series 10.
This wasn't due to a general downward trend in audience figures. The
audience share went down too. It was down to the deliberate alienation
of the viewers with a sexist, racist, anti-Christian, anti-heterosexual
political agenda.
The only way Doctor Who can survive is to be done with the sexist,
racist, anti-Christian, anti-heterosexual PC loony left agenda and to
once again make the show for the people most likely to watch it, the
majority, boys, men, and science fiction fans.
Your lunatic rants don’t change the facts. None of the factors you give
above make sense.
They make perfect sense logically and psychologically, unlike the loony
left agenda imposed on the show by Moffat and Chibnall.
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Racist? Not Doctor Who. Your comments about Pearl Mackie’s looks give away
your position on racism, and not in a good way.
Pearl Mackie looks like a dog, Freema Agyeman doesn't, nothing to do
with race. There were plenty of better and more attractive actresses to
choose from, end of subject.

You only have to look at the racist casting in Empress of Mars which
even the writer complained about because it was not historical and the
racist casting in The Eaters of Light where Roman soldiers who were
recruited from Roman citizens in Spain, were played by black actors,
rather than Mediterranean looking olive skinned ones, as well as the
racist casting in Troy: Fall of a City which has totally outraged Greeks
and Europeans, to see the BBC's institutionalized racism and
discrimination against people from the Mediterranean. The BBC doesn't
understand race at all. It thinks race means skin colour, when it fact
it means culture, and the BBC has never respected other cultures. You
don't replace characters from one underrepresented minority with actors
from another completely different one. Cultural appropriation is always
racist irrespective of whether the culture being appropriated is black
or white, especially in regards of dramas set in historical times. Don't
fuck with other people's culture and history is what they're telling
you. It's not yours to disrespect. You can see the BBC has learned
nothing since it continues to engage in cultural appropriation, and the
political correctness it spouts out is just another form of racism.
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Sexist? Not Doctor Who. No-one who uses the works of John Norman as a moral
compass can use the word sexist about anyone else with any credibility.
I think you better read Outlaw of Gor again to see what this sexist PC
lunacy is leading to. Even The Two Ronnies' The Worm That Turned will
give you a clue to what happens when women are given the chance to
suppress men's nature and take over their place, suppressing all love,
passion, poetry, music, and art.
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Anti-Christian? Not Doctor Who. It may go against fundamentalist Levite
Biblical literalist views - but then all rational drama and the facts of
the real world do too. Can’t single it out for throwing sanity in the face
of Fundamentalists.
You only have to watch the Cyberrubbish at the end of Series 8, Dark
Water/Death in Heaven along with the last Christmas Special to see see
Christianity being attacked by Moffat with his creation of a new
afterlife. No wonder the ratings collapsed after all the complaints sent
to Ofcom.
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Anti-heterosexual? Not Doctor Who. Amy and Rory? Clara and Danny? Donna and
anyone who’ll have her? Martha and Mickey? Rose and Mickey? River? The
existence of other sexualities is supplemental to heterosexuality. It
The existence of other sexualities is none of Doctor Who's business.
Doctor Who did not need a lesbian companion (Bill) paired with a gay
companion (Nardole). People did not identified with either of them and
they caused the ratings to plummet to the lowest ever in the show's
entire history.
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doesn’t detract from it. Only people deeply uncomfortable with their own
Oh yes it does.
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sexuality get the uncomfortable with other people’s, in my experience.
Poppycock! Heterosexuals do not identify with gay protagonists. There
was no reason whatsoever to bring sexuality into Doctor Who. It only
served to alienate even more viewers.
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“PC loony far left?” Ah, you mean fair and socially aware. Yes, alt-right
No, I mean racist, sexist, intolerant, chauvinistic, left wing bigots,
who want to suppress free speech and freedom of thought.
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ultra conservative racist sexist nut jobs might categorise Doctor Who, and
indeed most of the social attitudes of the twenty-first century, as “PC
loony far left”. Indeed, they often do, to the point that even using those
words automatically mean their arguments are meaningless and should be
ignored. No one so incapable of separating their emotional biases from
objective reality can be argued with logically.
As you’re about to demonstrate.
You are the one demonstrating your racist, sexist, intolerant,
chauvinistic, left wing bigoted views, which are no different to those
of the alt-right, except directed against the majority, which makes you
completely arrogant as well.
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doesn’t detract from it. Only people deeply uncomfortable with their own
sexuality get the uncomfortable with other people’s, in my experience.
Poppycock!
How would you know? Have you ever met someone who was happy with their
sexuality and talked to them about this? You’re just theorising.
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Heterosexuals do not identify with gay protagonists.
You can’t qualify as heterosexual without meeting the definition. I’ll
allow you to generalise only as far as the extent of your worldly
knowledge.

So instead of “Heterosexuals” try using a phrase that you can speak for:
“one frustrated celibate virgin who thinks he would be heterosexual if any
woman would ever let him try, but who knows” for example.
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“PC loony far left?” Ah, you mean fair and socially aware. Yes, alt-right
No, I mean racist, sexist, intolerant, chauvinistic, left wing bigots,
who want to suppress free speech and freedom of thought.
So by “PC loony far left” you mean an imaginary group that persecutes you
in your head but does not actually exist. Thanks for the clarification.
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No one so incapable of separating their emotional biases from
objective reality can be argued with logically.
As you’re about to demonstrate.
And you did, at great length. Well done for proving all my points so
vividly.
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There are some corners of the universe which have bred the most terrible
things. Things which act against everything we believe in. They must be
fought.
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doesn’t detract from it. Only people deeply uncomfortable with their own
sexuality get the uncomfortable with other people’s, in my experience.
Poppycock!
How would you know? Have you ever met someone who was happy with their
sexuality and talked to them about this? You’re just theorising.
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Heterosexuals do not identify with gay protagonists.
You can’t qualify as heterosexual without meeting the definition. I’ll
allow you to generalise only as far as the extent of your worldly
knowledge.
“one frustrated celibate virgin who thinks he would be heterosexual if any
woman would ever let him try, but who knows” for example.
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“PC loony far left?” Ah, you mean fair and socially aware. Yes, alt-right
No, I mean racist, sexist, intolerant, chauvinistic, left wing bigots,
who want to suppress free speech and freedom of thought.
So by “PC loony far left” you mean an imaginary group that persecutes you
in your head but does not actually exist. Thanks for the clarification.
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No one so incapable of separating their emotional biases from
objective reality can be argued with logically.
As you’re about to demonstrate.
And you did, at great length. Well done for proving all my points so
vividly.
The Geiger counter just went up significantly.
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things. Things which act against everything we believe in. They must be
fought.
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doesn’t detract from it. Only people deeply uncomfortable with their own
sexuality get the uncomfortable with other people’s, in my experience.
Poppycock!
How would you know? Have you ever met someone who was happy with their
sexuality and talked to them about this? You’re just theorising.
Everyone I know is happy with their sexuality. It's not an issue anyone
with moral decency worries about and it doesn't belong in Doctor Who.
It's seems that you must be unhappy with yours to keep promoting gays
and lesbians while deriding heterosexuals.

[Snip pile of heterophobic ranting by The Last Doctor. That rubbish
doesn’t deserve repetition.]
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doesn’t detract from it. Only people deeply uncomfortable with their own
sexuality get the uncomfortable with other people’s, in my experience.
Poppycock!
How would you know? Have you ever met someone who was happy with their
sexuality and talked to them about this? You’re just theorising.
Everyone I know is happy with their sexuality. It's not an issue anyone
with moral decency worries about and it doesn't belong in Doctor Who.
It's seems that you must be unhappy with yours to keep promoting gays
and lesbians while deriding heterosexuals.
I’ve never derided heterosexuals. I’m a heterosexual and always have been.

I deride YOU. But even that gets boring fast.
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doesn’t detract from it. Only people deeply uncomfortable with their own
sexuality get the uncomfortable with other people’s, in my experience.
Poppycock!
How would you know? Have you ever met someone who was happy with their
sexuality and talked to them about this? You’re just theorising.
Everyone I know is happy with their sexuality. It's not an issue anyone
with moral decency worries about and it doesn't belong in Doctor Who.
It's seems that you must be unhappy with yours to keep promoting gays
and lesbians while deriding heterosexuals.
[Snip pile of heterophobic ranting by The Last Doctor. That rubbish
doesn’t deserve repetition.]
IT is called editing.
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doesn’t detract from it. Only people deeply uncomfortable with their own
sexuality get the uncomfortable with other people’s, in my experience.
Poppycock!
How would you know? Have you ever met someone who was happy with their
sexuality and talked to them about this? You’re just theorising.
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Heterosexuals do not identify with gay protagonists.
You can’t qualify as heterosexual without meeting the definition. I’ll
allow you to generalise only as far as the extent of your worldly
knowledge.
“one frustrated celibate virgin who thinks he would be heterosexual if any
woman would ever let him try, but who knows” for example.
Too long.
The Last Doctor
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doesn’t detract from it. Only people deeply uncomfortable with their own
sexuality get the uncomfortable with other people’s, in my experience.
Poppycock!
How would you know? Have you ever met someone who was happy with their
sexuality and talked to them about this? You’re just theorising.
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Heterosexuals do not identify with gay protagonists.
You can’t qualify as heterosexual without meeting the definition. I’ll
allow you to generalise only as far as the extent of your worldly
knowledge.
“one frustrated celibate virgin who thinks he would be heterosexual if any
woman would ever let him try, but who knows” for example.
Too long.
“This sad loner” would be a short form. It describes him, his social
circle, and everyone he can speak for.
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There are some corners of the universe which have bred the most terrible
things. Things which act against everything we believe in. They must be
fought.
The Doctor
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doesn’t detract from it. Only people deeply uncomfortable with their own
sexuality get the uncomfortable with other people’s, in my experience.
Poppycock!
How would you know? Have you ever met someone who was happy with their
sexuality and talked to them about this? You’re just theorising.
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Heterosexuals do not identify with gay protagonists.
You can’t qualify as heterosexual without meeting the definition. I’ll
allow you to generalise only as far as the extent of your worldly
knowledge.
“one frustrated celibate virgin who thinks he would be heterosexual if any
woman would ever let him try, but who knows” for example.
Too long.
“This sad loner” would be a short form. It describes him, his social
circle, and everyone he can speak for.
Look who is talking!
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things. Things which act against everything we believe in. They must be
fought.
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2018-02-28 21:18:47 UTC
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“This sad loner” would be a short form. It describes him, his social
circle, and everyone he can speak for.
It describes you, not me.
The Doctor
2018-02-28 22:26:47 UTC
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“This sad loner” would be a short form. It describes him, his social
circle, and everyone he can speak for.
It describes you, not me.
Thank you Mike for lobbing the nuclear genade.
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The Doctor
2018-02-28 20:55:48 UTC
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doesn’t detract from it. Only people deeply uncomfortable with their own
sexuality get the uncomfortable with other people’s, in my experience.
Poppycock!
How would you know? Have you ever met someone who was happy with their
sexuality and talked to them about this? You’re just theorising.
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Heterosexuals do not identify with gay protagonists.
You can’t qualify as heterosexual without meeting the definition. I’ll
allow you to generalise only as far as the extent of your worldly
knowledge.
“one frustrated celibate virgin who thinks he would be heterosexual if any
woman would ever let him try, but who knows” for example.
Too long.
Long for?
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Source
https://www.nationalreview.com/2017/07/doctor-who-jodie-whittaker-takes-over-role/
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CULTURE
Why Can't the Doctor Be More Like a Woman?
By VARAD MEHTA
July 22, 2017 8:00 AM
Jodie Whittaker as the new Dr. Who
By changing its main character into a woman, the producers of
Doctor Who have irrevocably altered the show and fans'
relationship to it.
Well, duh! The producers are _always_ irrevocably altering the
show and
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the fans' relationship to it. That's part of their job. There's something
wrong if they don't. (Or do the people at the National Review really
That's not what they're supposed to do unless there's something wrong
with it. The fact that they did this when there was nothing wrong with
it is what has ruined it.
Oh really? Was there nothing wrong with it?
It was getting ratings of over 8 million with Eccleston, Tennant, and
Smith. Then the fool Moffat starting going down PC loony lane, turning
Capladi into the 6th Doctor, and writing sentimentalist garbage for him
after the Matt Smith scripts ran out and the ratings halved. And what is
Chibnall now doing? Going even further down PC loony lane and alienating
even more viewers.
So in short, yes. There was something wrong with it. Even if they fix
the writing issues, they have the problem that they've lost audience who
aren't coming back unless they do something to attract attention back to
the series.
Except that it HASN’T lost audience in terms of audience share.
Dilution of
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OH YES IT HAS!
Tennant was getting over 40% of audience share. Capaldi could only
manage barely over 20%.
Don’t you understand what dilution means? You need to compare against how
the BBC fared overall. NO drama gets the kind of absolute audience OR
absolute audience share that it did a decade ago.
Doctor Who was doing fine until the last 2 series which Moffat took up
PC loony lane at the expense of good writing.
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audience, proliferation of live channels, and the rise of streaming, mean
that over the last decade the audience of all TV dramas has fallen by an
average of 40% in the last decade.
Not the good ones. People have just stopped watching the garbage like
EastEnders and Coronation Street because there's better stuff to watch
or do.
Actually they’ve stopped or reduced watching of almost everything, even
sport. But especially drama. Only special one-offs with major promotion
buck the trend. And even then they only exceed Doctor Who’s audience if
they have a particularly female skewed demographic (Doctor Foster, Call the
Midwife, Poldark).
Because the broadcasters have totally pissed off the male viewers by
going down PC loony lane for so long.
Poldark only attracts female viewers because of Aiden Turner. Where's
the love interest in Doctor Who? It should have been clearly evident
that Capaldi failed to provide it, and after Danny Pink was killed off
there was nothing, and the following series were a disaster.
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And EastEnders? Yes its audience has fallen off a cliff. So the FACT that
it’s always four of the top 6 shows on BBC One should tell you the truth
about audiences. That’s still their flagship soap and drama, just like
Doctor Who is their flagship family/fantasy drama. A successful formula
they keep trying and failing fully to replicate (Merlin, Atlantis, Robin
Hood).
Merlin and Robin Hood did not fail. Atlantis was ok for the first series
but the second totally lost the plot thanks to the terrible standard of
modern writing and Jason's mother being made the main focus of the story
line. Like I said, women don't want to watch women in this type of
genera and Atlantis became totally illogical and irrational so men
stopped watching.
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Everything’s relative, except your pointless fury which always seems to be
turned up to 11.
It all comes down to political correctness fostering bad writing and
clueless production. You only have to read the terrible reviews for
Troy: Fall of a City to see how bad things have become; crass modern
dialogue, slow boring soap opera, terrible characterization, all the
most important elements of Greek mythology thrown out of the window, and
the villainous abductor and rapist of Helen, Paris, made into the hero.
And that's before we even come to the racist cultural appropriation.
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Doctor Who’s audience has fallen by only 30% in the same time. In other
words, it’s outperformed the market.
Poppycock and dissembling. Why hasn't the BBC license fee fallen by 40%
over the past decade to correspond to the fact that its license fee
payers are no longer being served properly properly by it?
Those are non sequiturs. The BBC has to make as much television as before
so its funding doesn’t reduce. Audience is not related to revenue for the
BBC in that way.
Why does it have to make as much television as before when people are
not watching it? How about it making something good and worth watching
for once?
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And only people like you (and Government, usually) feel that the licence
payers aren’t being “properly served”. People watch less TV. Full stop.
That means more money per set of eyes is spent on every minute of
television. Goes across the board.
So the license fee is nothing more than a free gravy train for bad
writers and bad actors.
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Ten years ago, Doctor Who was always a top 10 rated show for the BBC and
one of its top three dramas. By contrast, in 2017, Doctor Who was always a
top 10 rated show for the BBC and one of its top three dramas.
Which only goes to show the deterioration of the BBC in general.
TELEVISION. The BBC isn’t doing any worse than any other network. Doctor
Who isn’t performing worse over time than any other show.
Yes it is. Poldark has kept its audience figures steady over the last 3
series. Doctor Who lost up to 1/3 of its audience over the last 2. It
fell of a cliff from Series 9 onward.
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I guess it’s possible that the changes will make the show even MORE
successful than it currently is. (Statistically, if current trends
continue, if it manages more than 85% of last year’s ratings, that will be
the case - no matter what the doomsayers try to say about it).
Hogwash!
Doomsayer.
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Doctor Who effectively went down the toilet after the end of Series 8
with Capaldi. When it came back for Series 9 it instantly lost 25% of
its audience in the space of about a year, thanks to the Master being
turned into a woman, and continued in the same manner for Series 10.
This wasn't due to a general downward trend in audience figures. The
audience share went down too. It was down to the deliberate alienation
of the viewers with a sexist, racist, anti-Christian, anti-heterosexual
political agenda.
The only way Doctor Who can survive is to be done with the sexist,
racist, anti-Christian, anti-heterosexual PC loony left agenda and to
once again make the show for the people most likely to watch it, the
majority, boys, men, and science fiction fans.
Your lunatic rants don’t change the facts. None of the factors you give
above make sense.
They make perfect sense logically and psychologically, unlike the loony
left agenda imposed on the show by Moffat and Chibnall.
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Racist? Not Doctor Who. Your comments about Pearl Mackie’s looks give away
your position on racism, and not in a good way.
Pearl Mackie looks like a dog, Freema Agyeman doesn't, nothing to do
with race. There were plenty of better and more attractive actresses to
choose from, end of subject.
You only have to look at the racist casting in Empress of Mars which
even the writer complained about because it was not historical and the
racist casting in The Eaters of Light where Roman soldiers who were
recruited from Roman citizens in Spain, were played by black actors,
rather than Mediterranean looking olive skinned ones, as well as the
racist casting in Troy: Fall of a City which has totally outraged Greeks
and Europeans, to see the BBC's institutionalized racism and
discrimination against people from the Mediterranean. The BBC doesn't
understand race at all. It thinks race means skin colour, when it fact
it means culture, and the BBC has never respected other cultures. You
don't replace characters from one underrepresented minority with actors
from another completely different one. Cultural appropriation is always
racist irrespective of whether the culture being appropriated is black
or white, especially in regards of dramas set in historical times. Don't
fuck with other people's culture and history is what they're telling
you. It's not yours to disrespect. You can see the BBC has learned
nothing since it continues to engage in cultural appropriation, and the
political correctness it spouts out is just another form of racism.
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Sexist? Not Doctor Who. No-one who uses the works of John Norman as a moral
compass can use the word sexist about anyone else with any credibility.
I think you better read Outlaw of Gor again to see what this sexist PC
lunacy is leading to. Even The Two Ronnies' The Worm That Turned will
give you a clue to what happens when women are given the chance to
suppress men's nature and take over their place, suppressing all love,
passion, poetry, music, and art.
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Anti-Christian? Not Doctor Who. It may go against fundamentalist Levite
Biblical literalist views - but then all rational drama and the facts of
the real world do too. Can’t single it out for throwing sanity in the face
of Fundamentalists.
You only have to watch the Cyberrubbish at the end of Series 8, Dark
Water/Death in Heaven along with the last Christmas Special to see see
Christianity being attacked by Moffat with his creation of a new
afterlife. No wonder the ratings collapsed after all the complaints sent
to Ofcom.
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Anti-heterosexual? Not Doctor Who. Amy and Rory? Clara and Danny? Donna and
anyone who’ll have her? Martha and Mickey? Rose and Mickey? River? The
existence of other sexualities is supplemental to heterosexuality. It
The existence of other sexualities is none of Doctor Who's business.
Doctor Who did not need a lesbian companion (Bill) paired with a gay
companion (Nardole). People did not identified with either of them and
they caused the ratings to plummet to the lowest ever in the show's
entire history.
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doesn’t detract from it. Only people deeply uncomfortable with their own
Oh yes it does.
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sexuality get the uncomfortable with other people’s, in my experience.
Poppycock! Heterosexuals do not identify with gay protagonists. There
was no reason whatsoever to bring sexuality into Doctor Who. It only
served to alienate even more viewers.
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“PC loony far left?” Ah, you mean fair and socially aware. Yes, alt-right
No, I mean racist, sexist, intolerant, chauvinistic, left wing bigots,
who want to suppress free speech and freedom of thought.
Post by The Doctor
ultra conservative racist sexist nut jobs might categorise Doctor Who, and
indeed most of the social attitudes of the twenty-first century, as “PC
loony far left”. Indeed, they often do, to the point that even using those
words automatically mean their arguments are meaningless and should be
ignored. No one so incapable of separating their emotional biases from
objective reality can be argued with logically.
As you’re about to demonstrate.
You are the one demonstrating your racist, sexist, intolerant,
chauvinistic, left wing bigoted views, which are no different to those
of the alt-right, except directed against the majority, which makes you
completely arrogant as well.
Mike does is again.
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Why Can't the Doctor Be More Like a Woman?
By VARAD MEHTA
July 22, 2017 8:00 AM
Jodie Whittaker as the new Dr. Who
By changing its main character into a woman, the producers of
Doctor Who have irrevocably altered the show and fans'
relationship to it.
Well, duh! The producers are _always_ irrevocably altering the
show and
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the fans' relationship to it. That's part of their job. There's something
wrong if they don't. (Or do the people at the National Review really
That's not what they're supposed to do unless there's something wrong
with it. The fact that they did this when there was nothing wrong with
it is what has ruined it.
Oh really? Was there nothing wrong with it?
It was getting ratings of over 8 million with Eccleston, Tennant, and
Smith. Then the fool Moffat starting going down PC loony lane, turning
Capladi into the 6th Doctor, and writing sentimentalist garbage for him
after the Matt Smith scripts ran out and the ratings halved. And what is
Chibnall now doing? Going even further down PC loony lane and alienating
even more viewers.
So in short, yes. There was something wrong with it. Even if they fix
the writing issues, they have the problem that they've lost audience who
aren't coming back unless they do something to attract attention back to
the series.
Except that it HASN’T lost audience in terms of audience share. Dilution of
OH YES IT HAS!
Tennant was getting over 40% of audience share. Capaldi could only
manage barely over 20%.
Don’t you understand what dilution means? You need to compare against how
the BBC fared overall. NO drama gets the kind of absolute audience OR
absolute audience share that it did a decade ago.
Post by Agamemnon
audience, proliferation of live channels, and the rise of streaming, mean
that over the last decade the audience of all TV dramas has fallen by an
average of 40% in the last decade.
Not the good ones. People have just stopped watching the garbage like
EastEnders and Coronation Street because there's better stuff to watch
or do.
Actually they’ve stopped or reduced watching of almost everything, even
sport. But especially drama. Only special one-offs with major promotion
buck the trend. And even then they only exceed Doctor Who’s audience if
they have a particularly female skewed demographic (Doctor Foster, Call the
Midwife, Poldark).
And EastEnders? Yes its audience has fallen off a cliff. So the FACT that
it’s always four of the top 6 shows on BBC One should tell you the truth
about audiences. That’s still their flagship soap and drama, just like
Doctor Who is their flagship family/fantasy drama. A successful formula
they keep trying and failing fully to replicate (Merlin, Atlantis, Robin
Hood).
Everything’s relative, except your pointless fury which always seems to be
turned up to 11.
Post by Agamemnon
Doctor Who’s audience has fallen by only 30% in the same time. In other
words, it’s outperformed the market.
Poppycock and dissembling. Why hasn't the BBC license fee fallen by 40%
over the past decade to correspond to the fact that its license fee
payers are no longer being served properly properly by it?
Those are non sequiturs. The BBC has to make as much television as before
so its funding doesn’t reduce. Audience is not related to revenue for the
BBC in that way.
And only people like you (and Government, usually) feel that the licence
payers aren’t being “properly served”. People watch less TV. Full stop.
That means more money per set of eyes is spent on every minute of
television. Goes across the board.
Post by Agamemnon
Ten years ago, Doctor Who was always a top 10 rated show for the BBC and
one of its top three dramas. By contrast, in 2017, Doctor Who was always a
top 10 rated show for the BBC and one of its top three dramas.
Which only goes to show the deterioration of the BBC in general.
TELEVISION. The BBC isn’t doing any worse than any other network. Doctor
Who isn’t performing worse over time than any other show.
Post by Agamemnon
I guess it’s possible that the changes will make the show even MORE
successful than it currently is. (Statistically, if current trends
continue, if it manages more than 85% of last year’s ratings, that will be
the case - no matter what the doomsayers try to say about it).
Hogwash!
Doomsayer.
Post by Agamemnon
Doctor Who effectively went down the toilet after the end of Series 8
with Capaldi. When it came back for Series 9 it instantly lost 25% of
its audience in the space of about a year, thanks to the Master being
turned into a woman, and continued in the same manner for Series 10.
This wasn't due to a general downward trend in audience figures. The
audience share went down too. It was down to the deliberate alienation
of the viewers with a sexist, racist, anti-Christian, anti-heterosexual
political agenda.
The only way Doctor Who can survive is to be done with the sexist,
racist, anti-Christian, anti-heterosexual PC loony left agenda and to
once again make the show for the people most likely to watch it, the
majority, boys, men, and science fiction fans.
Your lunatic rants don’t change the facts. None of the factors you give
above make sense.
Racist? Not Doctor Who. Your comments about Pearl Mackie’s looks give away
your position on racism, and not in a good way.
Sexist? Not Doctor Who. No-one who uses the works of John Norman as a moral
compass can use the word sexist about anyone else with any credibility.
Anti-Christian? Not Doctor Who. It may go against fundamentalist Levite
Biblical literalist views - but then all rational drama and the facts of
the real world do too. Can’t single it out for throwing sanity in the face
of Fundamentalists.
Anti-heterosexual? Not Doctor Who. Amy and Rory? Clara and Danny? Donna and
anyone who’ll have her? Martha and Mickey? Rose and Mickey? River? The
existence of other sexualities is supplemental to heterosexuality. It
doesn’t detract from it. Only people deeply uncomfortable with their own
sexuality get the uncomfortable with other people’s, in my experience.
“PC loony far left?” Ah, you mean fair and socially aware. Yes, alt-right
ultra conservative racist sexist nut jobs might categorise Doctor Who, and
indeed most of the social attitudes of the twenty-first century, as “PC
loony far left”. Indeed, they often do, to the point that even using those
words automatically mean their arguments are meaningless and should be
ignored. No one so incapable of separating their emotional biases from
objective reality can be argued with logically.
As you’re about to demonstrate.
The geiger counter is just showing a residual.
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Why Can't the Doctor Be More Like a Woman?
By VARAD MEHTA
July 22, 2017 8:00 AM
Jodie Whittaker as the new Dr. Who
By changing its main character into a woman, the producers of
Doctor Who have irrevocably altered the show and fans'
relationship to it.
Well, duh! The producers are _always_ irrevocably altering the
show and
Post by Agamemnon
Post by solar penguin
the fans' relationship to it. That's part of their job. There's something
wrong if they don't. (Or do the people at the National Review really
That's not what they're supposed to do unless there's something wrong
with it. The fact that they did this when there was nothing wrong
with
Post by Agamemnon
it is what has ruined it.
Oh really? Was there nothing wrong with it?
It was getting ratings of over 8 million with Eccleston, Tennant, and
Smith. Then the fool Moffat starting going down PC loony lane, turning
Capladi into the 6th Doctor, and writing sentimentalist garbage for
him after the Matt Smith scripts ran out and the ratings halved. And
what is Chibnall now doing? Going even further down PC loony lane and
alienating even more viewers.
So in short, yes. There was something wrong with it. Even if they fix
the writing issues, they have the problem that they've lost audience who
aren't coming back unless they do something to attract attention back to
the series.
The audience are not going to come back because the Doctor has been
turned into a woman. What that will result in is even more viewers
leaving, just like even more will leave because of the continuation of
the sexist and racist PC lunatic agenda. What Doctor Who needs to fix it
is for the PC chauvinism to end and for the Doctor to be immediately
returned to male form and the stories to be written by writers who have
a clue about science-fiction, where logic and reason dominate, and
irrational sentiment and emotion are driven out.
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Why Can't the Doctor Be More Like a Woman?
By VARAD MEHTA
July 22, 2017 8:00 AM
Jodie Whittaker as the new Dr. Who
By changing its main character into a woman, the producers of
Doctor Who have irrevocably altered the show and fans'
relationship to it.
Well, duh! The producers are _always_ irrevocably altering the
show and
Post by Agamemnon
Post by solar penguin
the fans' relationship to it. That's part of their job. There's something
wrong if they don't. (Or do the people at the National Review really
That's not what they're supposed to do unless there's something wrong
with it. The fact that they did this when there was nothing wrong
with
Post by Agamemnon
it is what has ruined it.
Oh really? Was there nothing wrong with it?
It was getting ratings of over 8 million with Eccleston, Tennant, and
Smith. Then the fool Moffat starting going down PC loony lane, turning
Capladi into the 6th Doctor, and writing sentimentalist garbage for
him after the Matt Smith scripts ran out and the ratings halved. And
what is Chibnall now doing? Going even further down PC loony lane and
alienating even more viewers.
So in short, yes. There was something wrong with it. Even if they fix
the writing issues, they have the problem that they've lost audience who
aren't coming back unless they do something to attract attention back to
the series.
The audience are not going to come back because the Doctor has been
turned into a woman. What that will result in is even more viewers
leaving, just like even more will leave because of the continuation of
the sexist and racist PC lunatic agenda. What Doctor Who needs to fix it
is for the PC chauvinism to end and for the Doctor to be immediately
returned to male form and the stories to be written by writers who have
a clue about science-fiction, where logic and reason dominate, and
irrational sentiment and emotion are driven out.
Chibnall will be remembered as a villain like Jonathan Powell!
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Why Can't the Doctor Be More Like a Woman?
By VARAD MEHTA
July 22, 2017 8:00 AM
Jodie Whittaker as the new Dr. Who
By changing its main character into a woman, the producers of
Doctor Who have irrevocably altered the show and fans'
relationship to it.
Well, duh! The producers are _always_ irrevocably altering the
show and
Post by Agamemnon
Post by solar penguin
the fans' relationship to it. That's part of their job. There's something
wrong if they don't. (Or do the people at the National Review really
That's not what they're supposed to do unless there's something wrong
with it. The fact that they did this when there was nothing wrong
with
Post by Agamemnon
it is what has ruined it.
Oh really? Was there nothing wrong with it?
It was getting ratings of over 8 million with Eccleston, Tennant, and
Smith. Then the fool Moffat starting going down PC loony lane, turning
Capladi into the 6th Doctor, and writing sentimentalist garbage for
him after the Matt Smith scripts ran out and the ratings halved. And
what is Chibnall now doing? Going even further down PC loony lane and
alienating even more viewers.
So in short, yes. There was something wrong with it. Even if they fix
the writing issues, they have the problem that they've lost audience who
aren't coming back unless they do something to attract attention back to
the series.
The audience are not going to come back because the Doctor has been
turned into a woman. What that will result in is even more viewers
leaving, just like even more will leave because of the continuation of
the sexist and racist PC lunatic agenda. What Doctor Who needs to fix it
is for the PC chauvinism to end and for the Doctor to be immediately
returned to male form and the stories to be written by writers who have
a clue about science-fiction, where logic and reason dominate, and
irrational sentiment and emotion are driven out.
So The Doctor would stop regenerating in a moving TARDIS, and always check his scanner before leaving?
So Davros would fly?
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Why Can't the Doctor Be More Like a Woman?
By VARAD MEHTA
July 22, 2017 8:00 AM
Jodie Whittaker as the new Dr. Who
By changing its main character into a woman, the producers of
Doctor Who have irrevocably altered the show and fans'
relationship to it.
Well, duh! The producers are _always_ irrevocably altering the
show and
Post by Agamemnon
Post by solar penguin
the fans' relationship to it. That's part of their job. There's
something
wrong if they don't. (Or do the people at the National Review really
That's not what they're supposed to do unless there's something wrong
with it. The fact that they did this when there was nothing wrong
with
Post by Agamemnon
it is what has ruined it.
Oh really? Was there nothing wrong with it?
It was getting ratings of over 8 million with Eccleston, Tennant, and
Smith. Then the fool Moffat starting going down PC loony lane, turning
Capladi into the 6th Doctor, and writing sentimentalist garbage for
him after the Matt Smith scripts ran out and the ratings halved. And
what is Chibnall now doing? Going even further down PC loony lane and
alienating even more viewers.
So in short, yes. There was something wrong with it. Even if they fix
the writing issues, they have the problem that they've lost audience who
aren't coming back unless they do something to attract attention back to
the series.
The audience are not going to come back because the Doctor has been
turned into a woman. What that will result in is even more viewers
leaving, just like even more will leave because of the continuation of
the sexist and racist PC lunatic agenda. What Doctor Who needs to fix it
is for the PC chauvinism to end and for the Doctor to be immediately
returned to male form and the stories to be written by writers who have
a clue about science-fiction, where logic and reason dominate, and
irrational sentiment and emotion are driven out.
So The Doctor would stop regenerating in a moving TARDIS,
No. The moronic writers wouldn't have the TARDIS blowing up every time
he regenerates, as if their feeble minds can't think of a batter way of
producing a cliffhanger. The regeneration itself as a cliffhanger enough.
and always check his scanner before leaving?

As in "The Unquiet Dead" and "The Idiot's Lantern"?
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So Davros would fly?
Why would Davros fly?
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2018-02-27 22:41:19 UTC
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The audience are not going to come back because the Doctor has been
turned into a woman. What that will result in is even more viewers
leaving, just like even more will leave because of the continuation of
the sexist and racist PC lunatic agenda. What Doctor Who needs to fix it
is for the PC chauvinism to end and for the Doctor to be immediately
returned to male form and the stories to be written by writers who have
a clue about science-fiction, where logic and reason dominate, and
irrational sentiment and emotion are driven out.
So The Doctor would stop regenerating in a moving TARDIS,
No. The moronic writers wouldn't have the TARDIS blowing up every time
he regenerates, as if their feeble minds can't think of a batter way of
producing a cliffhanger. The regeneration itself as a cliffhanger enough.
and always check his scanner before leaving?
As in "The Unquiet Dead" and "The Idiot's Lantern"?
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So Davros would fly?
Why would Davros fly?
Because his Daleks fly, so would naturally give Davros that ability!
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Why Can't the Doctor Be More Like a Woman?
By VARAD MEHTA
July 22, 2017 8:00 AM
Jodie Whittaker as the new Dr. Who
By changing its main character into a woman, the producers of
Doctor Who have irrevocably altered the show and fans'
relationship to it.
Well, duh! The producers are _always_ irrevocably altering the
show and
Post by Agamemnon
Post by solar penguin
the fans' relationship to it. That's part of their job. There's
something
wrong if they don't. (Or do the people at the National Review really
That's not what they're supposed to do unless there's something wrong
with it. The fact that they did this when there was nothing wrong
with
Post by Agamemnon
it is what has ruined it.
Oh really? Was there nothing wrong with it?
It was getting ratings of over 8 million with Eccleston, Tennant, and
Smith. Then the fool Moffat starting going down PC loony lane, turning
Capladi into the 6th Doctor, and writing sentimentalist garbage for
him after the Matt Smith scripts ran out and the ratings halved. And
what is Chibnall now doing? Going even further down PC loony lane and
alienating even more viewers.
So in short, yes. There was something wrong with it. Even if they fix
the writing issues, they have the problem that they've lost audience who
aren't coming back unless they do something to attract attention back to
the series.
The audience are not going to come back because the Doctor has been
turned into a woman. What that will result in is even more viewers
leaving, just like even more will leave because of the continuation of
the sexist and racist PC lunatic agenda. What Doctor Who needs to fix it
is for the PC chauvinism to end and for the Doctor to be immediately
returned to male form and the stories to be written by writers who have
a clue about science-fiction, where logic and reason dominate, and
irrational sentiment and emotion are driven out.
So The Doctor would stop regenerating in a moving TARDIS, and always
check his scanner before leaving?
So Davros would fly?
No and no.
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Why Can't the Doctor Be More Like a Woman?
By VARAD MEHTA
July 22, 2017 8:00 AM
Jodie Whittaker as the new Dr. Who
By changing its main character into a woman, the producers of
Doctor Who have irrevocably altered the show and fans'
relationship to it.
Well, duh! The producers are _always_ irrevocably altering the
show and
Post by Agamemnon
Post by solar penguin
the fans' relationship to it. That's part of their job. There's something
wrong if they don't. (Or do the people at the National Review really
That's not what they're supposed to do unless there's something wrong
with it. The fact that they did this when there was nothing wrong
with
Post by Agamemnon
it is what has ruined it.
Oh really? Was there nothing wrong with it?
It was getting ratings of over 8 million with Eccleston, Tennant, and
Smith. Then the fool Moffat starting going down PC loony lane, turning
Capladi into the 6th Doctor, and writing sentimentalist garbage for
him after the Matt Smith scripts ran out and the ratings halved. And
what is Chibnall now doing? Going even further down PC loony lane and
alienating even more viewers.
So in short, yes. There was something wrong with it. Even if they fix
the writing issues, they have the problem that they've lost audience who
aren't coming back unless they do something to attract attention back to
the series.
The audience are not going to come back because the Doctor has been
turned into a woman. What that will result in is even more viewers
leaving, just like even more will leave because of the continuation of
the sexist and racist PC lunatic agenda. What Doctor Who needs to fix it
is for the PC chauvinism to end and for the Doctor to be immediately
returned to male form and the stories to be written by writers who have
a clue about science-fiction, where logic and reason dominate, and
irrational sentiment and emotion are driven out.
Please list your favorite writers.
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2018-02-27 22:54:42 UTC
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Why Can't the Doctor Be More Like a Woman?
By VARAD MEHTA
July 22, 2017 8:00 AM
Jodie Whittaker as the new Dr. Who
By changing its main character into a woman, the producers of
Doctor Who have irrevocably altered the show and fans'
relationship to it.
Well, duh! The producers are _always_ irrevocably altering the
show and
Post by Agamemnon
Post by solar penguin
the fans' relationship to it. That's part of their job. There's
something
wrong if they don't. (Or do the people at the National Review really
That's not what they're supposed to do unless there's something wrong
with it. The fact that they did this when there was nothing wrong
with
Post by Agamemnon
it is what has ruined it.
Oh really? Was there nothing wrong with it?
It was getting ratings of over 8 million with Eccleston, Tennant, and
Smith. Then the fool Moffat starting going down PC loony lane, turning
Capladi into the 6th Doctor, and writing sentimentalist garbage for
him after the Matt Smith scripts ran out and the ratings halved. And
what is Chibnall now doing? Going even further down PC loony lane and
alienating even more viewers.
So in short, yes. There was something wrong with it. Even if they fix
the writing issues, they have the problem that they've lost audience who
aren't coming back unless they do something to attract attention back to
the series.
The audience are not going to come back because the Doctor has been
turned into a woman. What that will result in is even more viewers
leaving, just like even more will leave because of the continuation of
the sexist and racist PC lunatic agenda. What Doctor Who needs to fix it
is for the PC chauvinism to end and for the Doctor to be immediately
returned to male form and the stories to be written by writers who have
a clue about science-fiction, where logic and reason dominate, and
irrational sentiment and emotion are driven out.
Please list your favorite writers.
Terry Nation and Malcom Hulke
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Why Can't the Doctor Be More Like a Woman?
By VARAD MEHTA
July 22, 2017 8:00 AM
Jodie Whittaker as the new Dr. Who
By changing its main character into a woman, the producers of
Doctor Who have irrevocably altered the show and fans'
relationship to it.
Well, duh! The producers are _always_ irrevocably altering the
show and
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the fans' relationship to it. That's part of their job. There's
something
wrong if they don't. (Or do the people at the National Review really
That's not what they're supposed to do unless there's something wrong
with it. The fact that they did this when there was nothing wrong
with
Post by Agamemnon
it is what has ruined it.
Oh really? Was there nothing wrong with it?
It was getting ratings of over 8 million with Eccleston, Tennant, and
Smith. Then the fool Moffat starting going down PC loony lane, turning
Capladi into the 6th Doctor, and writing sentimentalist garbage for
him after the Matt Smith scripts ran out and the ratings halved. And
what is Chibnall now doing? Going even further down PC loony lane and
alienating even more viewers.
So in short, yes. There was something wrong with it. Even if they fix
the writing issues, they have the problem that they've lost audience who
aren't coming back unless they do something to attract attention back to
the series.
The audience are not going to come back because the Doctor has been
turned into a woman. What that will result in is even more viewers
leaving, just like even more will leave because of the continuation of
the sexist and racist PC lunatic agenda. What Doctor Who needs to fix it
is for the PC chauvinism to end and for the Doctor to be immediately
returned to male form and the stories to be written by writers who have
a clue about science-fiction, where logic and reason dominate, and
irrational sentiment and emotion are driven out.
Please list your favorite writers.
Terry Nation and Malcom Hulke
Are they alive? (I was hoping for living writers).
The Doctor
2018-02-28 03:41:31 UTC
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CULTURE
Why Can't the Doctor Be More Like a Woman?
By VARAD MEHTA
July 22, 2017 8:00 AM
Jodie Whittaker as the new Dr. Who
By changing its main character into a woman, the producers of
Doctor Who have irrevocably altered the show and fans'
relationship to it.
Well, duh! The producers are _always_ irrevocably altering the
show and
Post by Agamemnon
Post by solar penguin
the fans' relationship to it. That's part of their job. There's
something
wrong if they don't. (Or do the people at the National Review really
That's not what they're supposed to do unless there's something wrong
with it. The fact that they did this when there was nothing wrong
with
Post by Agamemnon
it is what has ruined it.
Oh really? Was there nothing wrong with it?
It was getting ratings of over 8 million with Eccleston, Tennant, and
Smith. Then the fool Moffat starting going down PC loony lane, turning
Capladi into the 6th Doctor, and writing sentimentalist garbage for
him after the Matt Smith scripts ran out and the ratings halved. And
what is Chibnall now doing? Going even further down PC loony lane and
alienating even more viewers.
So in short, yes. There was something wrong with it. Even if they fix
the writing issues, they have the problem that they've lost audience who
aren't coming back unless they do something to attract attention back to
the series.
The audience are not going to come back because the Doctor has been
turned into a woman. What that will result in is even more viewers
leaving, just like even more will leave because of the continuation of
the sexist and racist PC lunatic agenda. What Doctor Who needs to fix it
is for the PC chauvinism to end and for the Doctor to be immediately
returned to male form and the stories to be written by writers who have
a clue about science-fiction, where logic and reason dominate, and
irrational sentiment and emotion are driven out.
Please list your favorite writers.
Terry Nation and Malcom Hulke
Are they alive? (I was hoping for living writers).
No IIRC
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David Johnston
2018-02-27 23:02:22 UTC
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Post by Agamemnon
 >>
 >>>> Source
 >>>>
 >>>>
https://www.nationalreview.com/2017/07/doctor-who-jodie-whittaker-takes-over-role/
 >>>>
 >>>>
 >>>> CULTURE
 >>>> Why Can't the Doctor Be More Like a Woman?
 >>>> By VARAD MEHTA
 >>>>      July 22, 2017 8:00 AM
 >>>>
 >>>> Jodie Whittaker as the new Dr. Who
 >>>>
 >>>> By changing its main character into a woman, the producers of
 >>>> Doctor Who have irrevocably altered the show and fans'
 >>>> relationship to it.
 >>
 >> Well, duh!  The producers are _always_ irrevocably altering the
show and
 >> the fans' relationship to it.  That's part of their job.  There's
 >> something
 >> wrong if they don't. (Or do the people at the National Review really
 >
 > That's not what they're supposed to do unless there's something wrong
 > with it. The fact that they did this when there was nothing wrong with
 > it is what has ruined it.
Oh really?  Was there nothing wrong with it?
It was getting ratings of over 8 million with Eccleston, Tennant, and
Smith. Then the fool Moffat starting going down PC loony lane,
turning Capladi into the 6th Doctor, and writing sentimentalist
garbage for him after the Matt Smith scripts ran out and the ratings
halved. And what is Chibnall now doing? Going even further down PC
loony lane and alienating even more viewers.
So in short, yes.  There was something wrong with it.  Even if they
fix the writing issues, they have the problem that they've lost
audience who aren't coming back unless they do something to attract
attention back to the series.
The audience are not going to come back because the Doctor has been
turned into a woman. What that will result in is even more viewers
leaving,
Do that many people hate women?
The Doctor
2018-02-27 23:08:49 UTC
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Post by Agamemnon
Post by Agamemnon
 >>
 >>>> Source
 >>>>
 >>>>
https://www.nationalreview.com/2017/07/doctor-who-jodie-whittaker-takes-over-role/
Post by Agamemnon
Post by Agamemnon
 >>>>
 >>>>
 >>>> CULTURE
 >>>> Why Can't the Doctor Be More Like a Woman?
 >>>> By VARAD MEHTA
 >>>>      July 22, 2017 8:00 AM
 >>>>
 >>>> Jodie Whittaker as the new Dr. Who
 >>>>
 >>>> By changing its main character into a woman, the producers of
 >>>> Doctor Who have irrevocably altered the show and fans'
 >>>> relationship to it.
 >>
 >> Well, duh!  The producers are _always_ irrevocably altering the
show and
 >> the fans' relationship to it.  That's part of their job.  There's
 >> something
 >> wrong if they don't. (Or do the people at the National Review
really
 >
 > That's not what they're supposed to do unless there's something
wrong
 > with it. The fact that they did this when there was nothing wrong
with
 > it is what has ruined it.
Oh really?  Was there nothing wrong with it?
It was getting ratings of over 8 million with Eccleston, Tennant, and
Smith. Then the fool Moffat starting going down PC loony lane,
turning Capladi into the 6th Doctor, and writing sentimentalist
garbage for him after the Matt Smith scripts ran out and the ratings
halved. And what is Chibnall now doing? Going even further down PC
loony lane and alienating even more viewers.
So in short, yes.  There was something wrong with it.  Even if they
fix the writing issues, they have the problem that they've lost
audience who aren't coming back unless they do something to attract
attention back to the series.
The audience are not going to come back because the Doctor has been
turned into a woman. What that will result in is even more viewers
leaving,
Do that many people hate women?
No. It is the total miscast we hate.
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Tim Bruening
2018-02-28 01:16:54 UTC
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Post by The Doctor
Post by Agamemnon
Post by Agamemnon
 >>
 >>>> Source
 >>>>
 >>>>
https://www.nationalreview.com/2017/07/doctor-who-jodie-whittaker-takes-over-role/
Post by Agamemnon
Post by Agamemnon
 >>>>
 >>>>
 >>>> CULTURE
 >>>> Why Can't the Doctor Be More Like a Woman?
 >>>> By VARAD MEHTA
 >>>>      July 22, 2017 8:00 AM
 >>>>
 >>>> Jodie Whittaker as the new Dr. Who
 >>>>
 >>>> By changing its main character into a woman, the producers of
 >>>> Doctor Who have irrevocably altered the show and fans'
 >>>> relationship to it.
 >>
 >> Well, duh!  The producers are _always_ irrevocably altering the
show and
 >> the fans' relationship to it.  That's part of their job.  There's
 >> something
 >> wrong if they don't. (Or do the people at the National Review really
 >
 > That's not what they're supposed to do unless there's something wrong
 > with it. The fact that they did this when there was nothing wrong with
 > it is what has ruined it.
Oh really?  Was there nothing wrong with it?
It was getting ratings of over 8 million with Eccleston, Tennant, and
Smith. Then the fool Moffat starting going down PC loony lane,
turning Capladi into the 6th Doctor, and writing sentimentalist
garbage for him after the Matt Smith scripts ran out and the ratings
halved. And what is Chibnall now doing? Going even further down PC
loony lane and alienating even more viewers.
So in short, yes.  There was something wrong with it.  Even if they
fix the writing issues, they have the problem that they've lost
audience who aren't coming back unless they do something to attract
attention back to the series.
The audience are not going to come back because the Doctor has been
turned into a woman. What that will result in is even more viewers
leaving,
Do that many people hate women?
No. It is the total miscast we hate.
Which women would cast well as "The Doctor"?
The Doctor
2018-02-28 03:41:12 UTC
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Post by Tim Bruening
Post by The Doctor
Post by David Johnston
Post by Agamemnon
Post by Agamemnon
 >>
 >>>> Source
 >>>>
 >>>>
https://www.nationalreview.com/2017/07/doctor-who-jodie-whittaker-takes-over-role/
Post by David Johnston
Post by Agamemnon
Post by Agamemnon
 >>>>
 >>>>
 >>>> CULTURE
 >>>> Why Can't the Doctor Be More Like a Woman?
 >>>> By VARAD MEHTA
 >>>>      July 22, 2017 8:00 AM
 >>>>
 >>>> Jodie Whittaker as the new Dr. Who
 >>>>
 >>>> By changing its main character into a woman, the producers of
 >>>> Doctor Who have irrevocably altered the show and fans'
 >>>> relationship to it.
 >>
 >> Well, duh!  The producers are _always_ irrevocably altering the
show and
 >> the fans' relationship to it.  That's part of their job.  There's
 >> something
 >> wrong if they don't. (Or do the people at the National Review
really
 >
 > That's not what they're supposed to do unless there's something
wrong
 > with it. The fact that they did this when there was nothing wrong
with
 > it is what has ruined it.
Oh really?  Was there nothing wrong with it?
It was getting ratings of over 8 million with Eccleston, Tennant, and
Smith. Then the fool Moffat starting going down PC loony lane,
turning Capladi into the 6th Doctor, and writing sentimentalist
garbage for him after the Matt Smith scripts ran out and the ratings
halved. And what is Chibnall now doing? Going even further down PC
loony lane and alienating even more viewers.
So in short, yes.  There was something wrong with it.  Even if they
fix the writing issues, they have the problem that they've lost
audience who aren't coming back unless they do something to attract
attention back to the series.
The audience are not going to come back because the Doctor has been
turned into a woman. What that will result in is even more viewers
leaving,
Do that many people hate women?
No. It is the total miscast we hate.
Which women would cast well as "The Doctor"?
None.

Recall Romana?
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2018-02-27 23:20:14 UTC
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Source
https://www.nationalreview.com/2017/07/doctor-who-jodie-whittaker-takes-over-role/
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Post by solar penguin
Post by The Doctor
CULTURE
Why Can't the Doctor Be More Like a Woman?
By VARAD MEHTA
July 22, 2017 8:00 AM
Jodie Whittaker as the new Dr. Who
By changing its main character into a woman, the producers of
Doctor Who have irrevocably altered the show and fans'
relationship to it.
Well, duh! The producers are _always_ irrevocably altering the
show and
Post by Agamemnon
Post by solar penguin
the fans' relationship to it. That's part of their job. There's something
wrong if they don't. (Or do the people at the National Review
really
Post by Agamemnon
That's not what they're supposed to do unless there's something
wrong
Post by Agamemnon
with it. The fact that they did this when there was nothing
wrong with
Post by Agamemnon
it is what has ruined it.
Oh really? Was there nothing wrong with it?
It was getting ratings of over 8 million with Eccleston, Tennant,
and Smith. Then the fool Moffat starting going down PC loony lane,
turning Capladi into the 6th Doctor, and writing sentimentalist
garbage for him after the Matt Smith scripts ran out and the ratings
halved. And what is Chibnall now doing? Going even further down PC
loony lane and alienating even more viewers.
So in short, yes. There was something wrong with it. Even if they
fix the writing issues, they have the problem that they've lost
audience who aren't coming back unless they do something to attract
attention back to the series.
The audience are not going to come back because the Doctor has been
turned into a woman. What that will result in is even more viewers
leaving,
Do that many people hate women?
It's not about hating women. Small boys will not identify with a mother
figure or a female hero, period. Men will not identify with them and
will not watch unless they fancy them. Women will not watch because it's
science-fiction and there is no male love interest for them.

In order to attract the most people to watch Doctor Who the Doctor must
be played by an attractive male actor. David Tennant proves my point.
Peter Capaldi also proves it in reverse. Whittaker will turn even more
viewers off.
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2018-02-28 00:59:01 UTC
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Source
https://www.nationalreview.com/2017/07/doctor-who-jodie-whittaker-takes-over-role/
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Post by solar penguin
Post by The Doctor
CULTURE
Why Can't the Doctor Be More Like a Woman?
By VARAD MEHTA
July 22, 2017 8:00 AM
Jodie Whittaker as the new Dr. Who
By changing its main character into a woman, the producers of
Doctor Who have irrevocably altered the show and fans'
relationship to it.
Well, duh! The producers are _always_ irrevocably altering the
show and
Post by Agamemnon
Post by solar penguin
the fans' relationship to it. That's part of their job. There's
something
wrong if they don't. (Or do the people at the National Review
really
Post by Agamemnon
That's not what they're supposed to do unless there's something
wrong
Post by Agamemnon
with it. The fact that they did this when there was nothing
wrong with
Post by Agamemnon
it is what has ruined it.
Oh really? Was there nothing wrong with it?
It was getting ratings of over 8 million with Eccleston, Tennant,
and Smith. Then the fool Moffat starting going down PC loony lane,
turning Capladi into the 6th Doctor, and writing sentimentalist
garbage for him after the Matt Smith scripts ran out and the ratings
halved. And what is Chibnall now doing? Going even further down PC
loony lane and alienating even more viewers.
So in short, yes. There was something wrong with it. Even if they
fix the writing issues, they have the problem that they've lost
audience who aren't coming back unless they do something to attract
attention back to the series.
The audience are not going to come back because the Doctor has been
turned into a woman. What that will result in is even more viewers
leaving,
Do that many people hate women?
It's not about hating women. Small boys will not identify with a mother
figure or a female hero, period.
Small girls will.
Post by Agamemnon
Men will not identify with them and
Women will.
Post by Agamemnon
will not watch unless they fancy them. Women will not watch because it's
science-fiction and there is no male love interest for them.
A lot of women enjoy science fiction and there doesn't need to be a
'love interest' to get them to watch.
Post by Agamemnon
In order to attract the most people to watch Doctor Who the Doctor must
be played by an attractive male actor. David Tennant proves my point.
Peter Capaldi also proves it in reverse. Whittaker will turn even more
viewers off.
Many are looking forward to seeing her stories.
Tim Bruening
2018-02-28 01:31:19 UTC
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Post by Agamemnon
Post by David Johnston
Do that many people hate women?
It's not about hating women. Small boys will not identify with a mother
figure or a female hero, period.
Small girls will.
Post by Agamemnon
Men will not identify with them and
Women will.
Post by Agamemnon
will not watch unless they fancy them. Women will not watch because it's
science-fiction and there is no male love interest for them.
A lot of women enjoy science fiction and there doesn't need to be a
'love interest' to get them to watch.
Aggy's point is that most SF fans are male, and not be drawn to JodieDoc!
The Doctor
2018-02-28 03:41:49 UTC
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Post by suzeeq
Post by Agamemnon
Post by David Johnston
Do that many people hate women?
It's not about hating women. Small boys will not identify with a mother
figure or a female hero, period.
Small girls will.
Post by Agamemnon
Men will not identify with them and
Women will.
Post by Agamemnon
will not watch unless they fancy them. Women will not watch because it's
science-fiction and there is no male love interest for them.
A lot of women enjoy science fiction and there doesn't need to be a
'love interest' to get them to watch.
Aggy's point is that most SF fans are male, and not be drawn to JodieDoc!
He has a point.
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2018-02-28 03:00:15 UTC
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Source
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Post by solar penguin
Post by The Doctor
CULTURE
Why Can't the Doctor Be More Like a Woman?
By VARAD MEHTA
July 22, 2017 8:00 AM
Jodie Whittaker as the new Dr. Who
By changing its main character into a woman, the producers of
Doctor Who have irrevocably altered the show and fans'
relationship to it.
Well, duh! The producers are _always_ irrevocably altering
the show and
Post by Agamemnon
Post by solar penguin
the fans' relationship to it. That's part of their job.
There's
Post by Agamemnon
Post by solar penguin
something
wrong if they don't. (Or do the people at the National Review
really
Post by Agamemnon
That's not what they're supposed to do unless there's
something wrong
Post by Agamemnon
with it. The fact that they did this when there was nothing
wrong with
Post by Agamemnon
it is what has ruined it.
Oh really? Was there nothing wrong with it?
It was getting ratings of over 8 million with Eccleston, Tennant,
and Smith. Then the fool Moffat starting going down PC loony lane,
turning Capladi into the 6th Doctor, and writing sentimentalist
garbage for him after the Matt Smith scripts ran out and the
ratings halved. And what is Chibnall now doing? Going even further
down PC loony lane and alienating even more viewers.
So in short, yes. There was something wrong with it. Even if they
fix the writing issues, they have the problem that they've lost
audience who aren't coming back unless they do something to attract
attention back to the series.
The audience are not going to come back because the Doctor has been
turned into a woman. What that will result in is even more viewers
leaving,
Do that many people hate women?
It's not about hating women. Small boys will not identify with a
mother figure or a female hero, period.
Small girls will.
At the expense of small boys. Small girls will also identify with a male
hero and father figure, therefore keeping the Doctor male doubles the
audience.
Post by suzeeq
Post by Agamemnon
Men will not identify with them and
Women will.
Most will not, especially the ones claiming to be feminists, because
it's nothing more than another reason for them take something away from
men. I've talked with them and despite promising to watch the show they
didn't and never will. It's not their kind of genera, and why should men
have to pay the price for this stupid sexist agenda?
Post by suzeeq
Post by Agamemnon
will not watch unless they fancy them. Women will not watch because
it's science-fiction and there is no male love interest for them.
A lot of women enjoy science fiction and there doesn't need to be a
'love interest' to get them to watch.
Not many. They are outnumbered by men by more than 2:1. In the Golden
Age of science-fiction before it was dumbed down to attract more female
readers (a gimmick which backfired and caused readership to fall) they
were outnumbered 10:1.
Post by suzeeq
Post by Agamemnon
In order to attract the most people to watch Doctor Who the Doctor
must be played by an attractive male actor. David Tennant proves my
point. Peter Capaldi also proves it in reverse. Whittaker will turn
even more viewers off.
Many are looking forward to seeing her stories.
But will they watch? No!

It's nothing more than a stupid gimmick and anti-male rallying cry.
The Doctor
2018-02-28 03:45:18 UTC
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CULTURE
Why Can't the Doctor Be More Like a Woman?
By VARAD MEHTA
July 22, 2017 8:00 AM
Jodie Whittaker as the new Dr. Who
By changing its main character into a woman, the producers of
Doctor Who have irrevocably altered the show and fans'
relationship to it.
Well, duh! The producers are _always_ irrevocably altering
the show and
Post by Agamemnon
Post by solar penguin
the fans' relationship to it. That's part of their job.
There's
Post by Agamemnon
Post by solar penguin
something
wrong if they don't. (Or do the people at the National Review
really
Post by Agamemnon
That's not what they're supposed to do unless there's
something wrong
Post by Agamemnon
with it. The fact that they did this when there was nothing
wrong with
Post by Agamemnon
it is what has ruined it.
Oh really? Was there nothing wrong with it?
It was getting ratings of over 8 million with Eccleston, Tennant,
and Smith. Then the fool Moffat starting going down PC loony lane,
turning Capladi into the 6th Doctor, and writing sentimentalist
garbage for him after the Matt Smith scripts ran out and the
ratings halved. And what is Chibnall now doing? Going even further
down PC loony lane and alienating even more viewers.
So in short, yes. There was something wrong with it. Even if they
fix the writing issues, they have the problem that they've lost
audience who aren't coming back unless they do something to attract
attention back to the series.
The audience are not going to come back because the Doctor has been
turned into a woman. What that will result in is even more viewers
leaving,
Do that many people hate women?
It's not about hating women. Small boys will not identify with a
mother figure or a female hero, period.
Small girls will.
At the expense of small boys. Small girls will also identify with a male
hero and father figure, therefore keeping the Doctor male doubles the
audience.
Post by suzeeq
Post by Agamemnon
Men will not identify with them and
Women will.
Most will not, especially the ones claiming to be feminists, because
it's nothing more than another reason for them take something away from
men. I've talked with them and despite promising to watch the show they
didn't and never will. It's not their kind of genera, and why should men
have to pay the price for this stupid sexist agenda?
Post by suzeeq
Post by Agamemnon
will not watch unless they fancy them. Women will not watch because
it's science-fiction and there is no male love interest for them.
A lot of women enjoy science fiction and there doesn't need to be a
'love interest' to get them to watch.
Not many. They are outnumbered by men by more than 2:1. In the Golden
Age of science-fiction before it was dumbed down to attract more female
readers (a gimmick which backfired and caused readership to fall) they
were outnumbered 10:1.
Post by suzeeq
Post by Agamemnon
In order to attract the most people to watch Doctor Who the Doctor
must be played by an attractive male actor. David Tennant proves my
point. Peter Capaldi also proves it in reverse. Whittaker will turn
even more viewers off.
Many are looking forward to seeing her stories.
But will they watch? No!
It's nothing more than a stupid gimmick and anti-male rallying cry.
Exactly!!
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Why Can't the Doctor Be More Like a Woman?
By VARAD MEHTA
July 22, 2017 8:00 AM
Jodie Whittaker as the new Dr. Who
By changing its main character into a woman, the producers of
Doctor Who have irrevocably altered the show and fans'
relationship to it.
Well, duh! The producers are _always_ irrevocably altering
the show and
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the fans' relationship to it. That's part of their job.
There's
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something
wrong if they don't. (Or do the people at the National Review
really
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That's not what they're supposed to do unless there's
something wrong
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with it. The fact that they did this when there was nothing
wrong with
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it is what has ruined it.
Oh really? Was there nothing wrong with it?
It was getting ratings of over 8 million with Eccleston, Tennant,
and Smith. Then the fool Moffat starting going down PC loony lane,
turning Capladi into the 6th Doctor, and writing sentimentalist
garbage for him after the Matt Smith scripts ran out and the
ratings halved. And what is Chibnall now doing? Going even further
down PC loony lane and alienating even more viewers.
So in short, yes. There was something wrong with it. Even if they
fix the writing issues, they have the problem that they've lost
audience who aren't coming back unless they do something to attract
attention back to the series.
The audience are not going to come back because the Doctor has been
turned into a woman. What that will result in is even more viewers
leaving,
Do that many people hate women?
It's not about hating women. Small boys will not identify with a
mother figure or a female hero, period.
Small girls will.
At the expense of small boys. Small girls will also identify with a male
hero and father figure, therefore keeping the Doctor male doubles the
audience.
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Men will not identify with them and
Women will.
Most will not, especially the ones claiming to be feminists, because
it's nothing more than another reason for them take something away from
men. I've talked with them and despite promising to watch the show they
didn't and never will. It's not their kind of genera, and why should men
have to pay the price for this stupid sexist agenda?
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will not watch unless they fancy them. Women will not watch because
it's science-fiction and there is no male love interest for them.
A lot of women enjoy science fiction and there doesn't need to be a
'love interest' to get them to watch.
Not many. They are outnumbered by men by more than 2:1. In the Golden
Age of science-fiction before it was dumbed down to attract more female
readers (a gimmick which backfired and caused readership to fall) they
were outnumbered 10:1.
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In order to attract the most people to watch Doctor Who the Doctor
must be played by an attractive male actor. David Tennant proves my
point. Peter Capaldi also proves it in reverse. Whittaker will turn
even more viewers off.
Many are looking forward to seeing her stories.
But will they watch? No!
It's nothing more than a stupid gimmick and anti-male rallying cry.
For someone who doesn't hate women, you don't seem to have met a real
one and hold some anachronistic views about male superiority.
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2018-02-28 15:44:42 UTC
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Why Can't the Doctor Be More Like a Woman?
By VARAD MEHTA
July 22, 2017 8:00 AM
Jodie Whittaker as the new Dr. Who
By changing its main character into a woman, the producers of
Doctor Who have irrevocably altered the show and fans'
relationship to it.
Well, duh! The producers are _always_ irrevocably altering
the show and
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the fans' relationship to it. That's part of their job.
There's
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something
wrong if they don't. (Or do the people at the National Review
really
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That's not what they're supposed to do unless there's
something wrong
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with it. The fact that they did this when there was nothing
wrong with
Post by Agamemnon
it is what has ruined it.
Oh really? Was there nothing wrong with it?
It was getting ratings of over 8 million with Eccleston, Tennant,
and Smith. Then the fool Moffat starting going down PC loony lane,
turning Capladi into the 6th Doctor, and writing sentimentalist
garbage for him after the Matt Smith scripts ran out and the
ratings halved. And what is Chibnall now doing? Going even further
down PC loony lane and alienating even more viewers.
So in short, yes. There was something wrong with it. Even if they
fix the writing issues, they have the problem that they've lost
audience who aren't coming back unless they do something to attract
attention back to the series.
The audience are not going to come back because the Doctor has been
turned into a woman. What that will result in is even more viewers
leaving,
Do that many people hate women?
It's not about hating women. Small boys will not identify with a
mother figure or a female hero, period.
Small girls will.
At the expense of small boys. Small girls will also identify with a male
hero and father figure, therefore keeping the Doctor male doubles the
audience.
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Men will not identify with them and
Women will.
Most will not, especially the ones claiming to be feminists, because
it's nothing more than another reason for them take something away from
men. I've talked with them and despite promising to watch the show they
didn't and never will. It's not their kind of genera, and why should men
have to pay the price for this stupid sexist agenda?
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will not watch unless they fancy them. Women will not watch because
it's science-fiction and there is no male love interest for them.
A lot of women enjoy science fiction and there doesn't need to be a
'love interest' to get them to watch.
Not many. They are outnumbered by men by more than 2:1. In the Golden
Age of science-fiction before it was dumbed down to attract more female
readers (a gimmick which backfired and caused readership to fall) they
were outnumbered 10:1.
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In order to attract the most people to watch Doctor Who the Doctor
must be played by an attractive male actor. David Tennant proves my
point. Peter Capaldi also proves it in reverse. Whittaker will turn
even more viewers off.
Many are looking forward to seeing her stories.
But will they watch? No!
It's nothing more than a stupid gimmick and anti-male rallying cry.
For someone who doesn't hate women, you don't seem to have met a real
one and hold some anachronistic views about male superiority.
Nuclear excahning warning.
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Why Can't the Doctor Be More Like a Woman?
By VARAD MEHTA
July 22, 2017 8:00 AM
Jodie Whittaker as the new Dr. Who
By changing its main character into a woman, the
producers of
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Doctor Who have irrevocably altered the show and fans'
relationship to it.
Well, duh! The producers are _always_ irrevocably altering
the show and
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the fans' relationship to it. That's part of their job.
There's
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something
wrong if they don't. (Or do the people at the National
Review really
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That's not what they're supposed to do unless there's
something wrong
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with it. The fact that they did this when there was nothing
wrong with
Post by Agamemnon
it is what has ruined it.
Oh really? Was there nothing wrong with it?
It was getting ratings of over 8 million with Eccleston,
Tennant, and Smith. Then the fool Moffat starting going down PC
loony lane, turning Capladi into the 6th Doctor, and writing
sentimentalist garbage for him after the Matt Smith scripts ran
out and the ratings halved. And what is Chibnall now doing?
Going even further down PC loony lane and alienating even more
viewers.
So in short, yes. There was something wrong with it. Even if
they fix the writing issues, they have the problem that they've
lost audience who aren't coming back unless they do something to
attract attention back to the series.
The audience are not going to come back because the Doctor has
been turned into a woman. What that will result in is even more
viewers leaving,
Do that many people hate women?
It's not about hating women. Small boys will not identify with a
mother figure or a female hero, period.
Small girls will.
At the expense of small boys. Small girls will also identify with a
male hero and father figure, therefore keeping the Doctor male doubles
the audience.
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Post by Agamemnon
Men will not identify with them and
Women will.
Most will not, especially the ones claiming to be feminists, because
it's nothing more than another reason for them take something away
from men. I've talked with them and despite promising to watch the
show they didn't and never will. It's not their kind of genera, and
why should men have to pay the price for this stupid sexist agenda?
Post by suzeeq
Post by Agamemnon
will not watch unless they fancy them. Women will not watch because
it's science-fiction and there is no male love interest for them.
A lot of women enjoy science fiction and there doesn't need to be a
'love interest' to get them to watch.
Not many. They are outnumbered by men by more than 2:1. In the Golden
Age of science-fiction before it was dumbed down to attract more
female readers (a gimmick which backfired and caused readership to
fall) they were outnumbered 10:1.
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Post by Agamemnon
In order to attract the most people to watch Doctor Who the Doctor
must be played by an attractive male actor. David Tennant proves my
point. Peter Capaldi also proves it in reverse. Whittaker will turn
even more viewers off.
Many are looking forward to seeing her stories.
But will they watch? No!
It's nothing more than a stupid gimmick and anti-male rallying cry.
For someone who doesn't hate women, you don't seem to have met a real
one and hold some anachronistic views about male superiority.
I have met lots of real women. And do you know which ones are the most
intelligent and which the most stupid? The most dumb and most stupid are
the ones who claim to be feminists and push loony left agendas. These
are the ones who don't understand science-fiction and will never watch
Doctor Who, especially with a woman playing the Doctor. The women who
are the most intelligent are the ones who are conservative and espouse
traditional values and virtues, the ones who understand that men and
women are different, and are different for a biological reason, the ones
who understand science, and do not want to turn this world into a copy
of Tharna on Gor, the ones who are rational, the ones who love poetry,
music, art, and culture, the ones who watch science-fiction and want the
Doctor to remain a man because that is where their love interest is and
that is what embodies their love of men. Which one are you?
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2018-02-28 16:57:50 UTC
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I have met lots of real women.
Video games don't count. And we both know you're not old enough to
hold down a job, so prostitutes aren't likely.
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2018-02-28 20:55:30 UTC
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I have met lots of real women.
Video games don't count. And we both know you're not old enough to
hold down a job, so prostitutes aren't likely.
Too isolated to newsgroups I see.
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I have met lots of real women.
Video games don't count. And we both know you're not old enough to
hold down a job, so prostitutes aren't likely.
Too isolated to newsgroups I see.
I'm sure he is, yes. I suspect he's too fat to climb the stairs out
of the basement (or maybe the stairs are too slick with cheetos
dust).
--
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland:
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"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
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I have met lots of real women.
Video games don't count. And we both know you're not old enough to
hold down a job, so prostitutes aren't likely.
Too isolated to newsgroups I see.
I'm sure he is, yes. I suspect he's too fat to climb the stairs out
of the basement (or maybe the stairs are too slick with cheetos
dust).
Not from his Facebook PRofle.

I oubt you have one.
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--
Terry Austin
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB
Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
Tautology
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I have met lots of real women.
Video games don't count. And we both know you're not old
enough to hold down a job, so prostitutes aren't likely.
Too isolated to newsgroups I see.
I'm sure he is, yes. I suspect he's too fat to climb the stairs
out of the basement (or maybe the stairs are too slick with
cheetos dust).
Not from his Facebook PRofle.
My current profile picture is of a cat. On the internet, everybody
is a sixteen year old girl.
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I oubt you have one.
And I know how to spell "doubt."
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--
Terry Austin
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB
Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
Tautology
Bait. That hook tasty?
--
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
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2018-02-28 22:29:37 UTC
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I have met lots of real women.
Video games don't count. And we both know you're not old
enough to hold down a job, so prostitutes aren't likely.
Too isolated to newsgroups I see.
I'm sure he is, yes. I suspect he's too fat to climb the stairs
out of the basement (or maybe the stairs are too slick with
cheetos dust).
Not from his Facebook PRofle.
My current profile picture is of a cat. On the internet, everybody
is a sixteen year old girl.
All right.
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I oubt you have one.
And I know how to spell "doubt."
Friend us all on Facebook.
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--
Terry Austin
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB
Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
Tautology
--
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I have met lots of real women.
Video games don't count. And we both know you're not old
enough to hold down a job, so prostitutes aren't likely.
Too isolated to newsgroups I see.
I'm sure he is, yes. I suspect he's too fat to climb the
stairs out of the basement (or maybe the stairs are too slick
with cheetos dust).
Not from his Facebook PRofle.
My current profile picture is of a cat. On the internet,
everybody is a sixteen year old girl.
All right.
In other words, for those with limited cognitive abilities (like
you), just because the profile pic isn't of a fat, Cheetos stained
slob doesn't mean he's not a fat, Cheetos stained slob. (I just
called you stupid.)
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I oubt you have one.
And I know how to spell "doubt."
Friend us all on Facebook.
Why? You'd end up ignored within two or three posts anyway, on
accounta being so stupid.
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--
Terry Austin
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB
Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
Tautology
Bait. That hook tasty?
--
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland:
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
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I have met lots of real women.
Video games don't count. And we both know you're not old
enough to hold down a job, so prostitutes aren't likely.
Too isolated to newsgroups I see.
I'm sure he is, yes. I suspect he's too fat to climb the
stairs out of the basement (or maybe the stairs are too slick
with cheetos dust).
Not from his Facebook PRofle.
My current profile picture is of a cat. On the internet,
everybody is a sixteen year old girl.
All right.
In other words, for those with limited cognitive abilities (like
you), just because the profile pic isn't of a fat, Cheetos stained
slob doesn't mean he's not a fat, Cheetos stained slob. (I just
called you stupid.)
Nice to see you are wearing banana skin slippers.
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I oubt you have one.
And I know how to spell "doubt."
Friend us all on Facebook.
Why? You'd end up ignored within two or three posts anyway, on
accounta being so stupid.
Try us!
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--
Terry Austin
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB
Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
Tautology
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Why Can't the Doctor Be More Like a Woman?
By VARAD MEHTA
July 22, 2017 8:00 AM
Jodie Whittaker as the new Dr. Who
By changing its main character into a woman, the
producers of
Post by Agamemnon
Post by solar penguin
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Doctor Who have irrevocably altered the show and fans'
relationship to it.
Well, duh! The producers are _always_ irrevocably altering
the show and
Post by Agamemnon
Post by solar penguin
the fans' relationship to it. That's part of their job.
There's
Post by Agamemnon
Post by solar penguin
something
wrong if they don't. (Or do the people at the National
Review really
Post by Agamemnon
That's not what they're supposed to do unless there's
something wrong
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with it. The fact that they did this when there was nothing
wrong with
Post by Agamemnon
it is what has ruined it.
Oh really? Was there nothing wrong with it?
It was getting ratings of over 8 million with Eccleston,
Tennant, and Smith. Then the fool Moffat starting going down PC
loony lane, turning Capladi into the 6th Doctor, and writing
sentimentalist garbage for him after the Matt Smith scripts ran
out and the ratings halved. And what is Chibnall now doing?
Going even further down PC loony lane and alienating even more
viewers.
So in short, yes. There was something wrong with it. Even if
they fix the writing issues, they have the problem that they've
lost audience who aren't coming back unless they do something to
attract attention back to the series.
The audience are not going to come back because the Doctor has
been turned into a woman. What that will result in is even more
viewers leaving,
Do that many people hate women?
It's not about hating women. Small boys will not identify with a
mother figure or a female hero, period.
Small girls will.
At the expense of small boys. Small girls will also identify with a
male hero and father figure, therefore keeping the Doctor male doubles
the audience.
Post by suzeeq
Post by Agamemnon
Men will not identify with them and
Women will.
Most will not, especially the ones claiming to be feminists, because
it's nothing more than another reason for them take something away
from men. I've talked with them and despite promising to watch the
show they didn't and never will. It's not their kind of genera, and
why should men have to pay the price for this stupid sexist agenda?
Post by suzeeq
Post by Agamemnon
will not watch unless they fancy them. Women will not watch because
it's science-fiction and there is no male love interest for them.
A lot of women enjoy science fiction and there doesn't need to be a
'love interest' to get them to watch.
Not many. They are outnumbered by men by more than 2:1. In the Golden
Age of science-fiction before it was dumbed down to attract more
female readers (a gimmick which backfired and caused readership to
fall) they were outnumbered 10:1.
Post by suzeeq
Post by Agamemnon
In order to attract the most people to watch Doctor Who the Doctor
must be played by an attractive male actor. David Tennant proves my
point. Peter Capaldi also proves it in reverse. Whittaker will turn
even more viewers off.
Many are looking forward to seeing her stories.
But will they watch? No!
It's nothing more than a stupid gimmick and anti-male rallying cry.
For someone who doesn't hate women, you don't seem to have met a real
one and hold some anachronistic views about male superiority.
I have met lots of real women. And do you know which ones are the most
intelligent and which the most stupid? The most dumb and most stupid are
the ones who claim to be feminists and push loony left agendas. These
are the ones who don't understand science-fiction and will never watch
Doctor Who, especially with a woman playing the Doctor. The women who
are the most intelligent are the ones who are conservative and espouse
traditional values and virtues, the ones who understand that men and
women are different, and are different for a biological reason, the ones
who understand science, and do not want to turn this world into a copy
of Tharna on Gor, the ones who are rational, the ones who love poetry,
music, art, and culture, the ones who watch science-fiction and want the
Doctor to remain a man because that is where their love interest is and
that is what embodies their love of men. Which one are you?
I'm intelligent, but not conservative or traditional. I hate poetry, and
don't mind seeing the doctor as a woman even though I prefer men as a
love interest. So I guess - neither.
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Why Can't the Doctor Be More Like a Woman?
By VARAD MEHTA
July 22, 2017 8:00 AM
Jodie Whittaker as the new Dr. Who
By changing its main character into a woman, the
producers of
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Doctor Who have irrevocably altered the show and fans'
relationship to it.
Well, duh! The producers are _always_ irrevocably altering
the show and
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the fans' relationship to it. That's part of their job.
There's
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something
wrong if they don't. (Or do the people at the National
Review really
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That's not what they're supposed to do unless there's
something wrong
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with it. The fact that they did this when there was nothing
wrong with
Post by Agamemnon
it is what has ruined it.
Oh really? Was there nothing wrong with it?
It was getting ratings of over 8 million with Eccleston,
Tennant, and Smith. Then the fool Moffat starting going down PC
loony lane, turning Capladi into the 6th Doctor, and writing
sentimentalist garbage for him after the Matt Smith scripts ran
out and the ratings halved. And what is Chibnall now doing?
Going even further down PC loony lane and alienating even more
viewers.
So in short, yes. There was something wrong with it. Even if
they fix the writing issues, they have the problem that they've
lost audience who aren't coming back unless they do something to
attract attention back to the series.
The audience are not going to come back because the Doctor has
been turned into a woman. What that will result in is even more
viewers leaving,
Do that many people hate women?
It's not about hating women. Small boys will not identify with a
mother figure or a female hero, period.
Small girls will.
At the expense of small boys. Small girls will also identify with a
male hero and father figure, therefore keeping the Doctor male doubles
the audience.
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Post by Agamemnon
Men will not identify with them and
Women will.
Most will not, especially the ones claiming to be feminists, because
it's nothing more than another reason for them take something away
from men. I've talked with them and despite promising to watch the
show they didn't and never will. It's not their kind of genera, and
why should men have to pay the price for this stupid sexist agenda?
Post by suzeeq
Post by Agamemnon
will not watch unless they fancy them. Women will not watch because
it's science-fiction and there is no male love interest for them.
A lot of women enjoy science fiction and there doesn't need to be a
'love interest' to get them to watch.
Not many. They are outnumbered by men by more than 2:1. In the Golden
Age of science-fiction before it was dumbed down to attract more
female readers (a gimmick which backfired and caused readership to
fall) they were outnumbered 10:1.
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Post by Agamemnon
In order to attract the most people to watch Doctor Who the Doctor
must be played by an attractive male actor. David Tennant proves my
point. Peter Capaldi also proves it in reverse. Whittaker will turn
even more viewers off.
Many are looking forward to seeing her stories.
But will they watch? No!
It's nothing more than a stupid gimmick and anti-male rallying cry.
For someone who doesn't hate women, you don't seem to have met a real
one and hold some anachronistic views about male superiority.
I have met lots of real women. And do you know which ones are the most
intelligent and which the most stupid? The most dumb and most stupid are
the ones who claim to be feminists and push loony left agendas. These
are the ones who don't understand science-fiction and will never watch
Doctor Who, especially with a woman playing the Doctor. The women who
are the most intelligent are the ones who are conservative and espouse
traditional values and virtues, the ones who understand that men and
women are different, and are different for a biological reason, the ones
who understand science, and do not want to turn this world into a copy
of Tharna on Gor, the ones who are rational, the ones who love poetry,
music, art, and culture, the ones who watch science-fiction and want the
Doctor to remain a man because that is where their love interest is and
that is what embodies their love of men. Which one are you?
I'm intelligent, but not conservative or traditional. I hate poetry, and
don't mind seeing the doctor as a woman even though I prefer men as a
love interest. So I guess - neither.
Whatever.
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Why Can't the Doctor Be More Like a Woman?
By VARAD MEHTA
July 22, 2017 8:00 AM
Jodie Whittaker as the new Dr. Who
By changing its main character into a woman, the
producers of
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Doctor Who have irrevocably altered the show and fans'
relationship to it.
Well, duh! The producers are _always_ irrevocably
altering the show and
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the fans' relationship to it. That's part of their job.
There's
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something
wrong if they don't. (Or do the people at the National
Review really
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That's not what they're supposed to do unless there's
something wrong
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with it. The fact that they did this when there was
nothing wrong with
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it is what has ruined it.
Oh really? Was there nothing wrong with it?
It was getting ratings of over 8 million with Eccleston,
Tennant, and Smith. Then the fool Moffat starting going down
PC loony lane, turning Capladi into the 6th Doctor, and
writing sentimentalist garbage for him after the Matt Smith
scripts ran out and the ratings halved. And what is Chibnall
now doing? Going even further down PC loony lane and
alienating even more viewers.
So in short, yes. There was something wrong with it. Even if
they fix the writing issues, they have the problem that they've
lost audience who aren't coming back unless they do something
to attract attention back to the series.
The audience are not going to come back because the Doctor has
been turned into a woman. What that will result in is even more
viewers leaving,
Do that many people hate women?
It's not about hating women. Small boys will not identify with a
mother figure or a female hero, period.
Small girls will.
At the expense of small boys. Small girls will also identify with a
male hero and father figure, therefore keeping the Doctor male
doubles the audience.
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Post by Agamemnon
Men will not identify with them and
Women will.
Most will not, especially the ones claiming to be feminists, because
it's nothing more than another reason for them take something away
from men. I've talked with them and despite promising to watch the
show they didn't and never will. It's not their kind of genera, and
why should men have to pay the price for this stupid sexist agenda?
Post by suzeeq
Post by Agamemnon
will not watch unless they fancy them. Women will not watch
because it's science-fiction and there is no male love interest
for them.
A lot of women enjoy science fiction and there doesn't need to be a
'love interest' to get them to watch.
Not many. They are outnumbered by men by more than 2:1. In the
Golden Age of science-fiction before it was dumbed down to attract
more female readers (a gimmick which backfired and caused readership
to fall) they were outnumbered 10:1.
Post by suzeeq
Post by Agamemnon
In order to attract the most people to watch Doctor Who the Doctor
must be played by an attractive male actor. David Tennant proves
my point. Peter Capaldi also proves it in reverse. Whittaker will
turn even more viewers off.
Many are looking forward to seeing her stories.
But will they watch? No!
It's nothing more than a stupid gimmick and anti-male rallying cry.
For someone who doesn't hate women, you don't seem to have met a real
one and hold some anachronistic views about male superiority.
I have met lots of real women. And do you know which ones are the most
intelligent and which the most stupid? The most dumb and most stupid
are the ones who claim to be feminists and push loony left agendas.
These are the ones who don't understand science-fiction and will never
watch Doctor Who, especially with a woman playing the Doctor. The
women who are the most intelligent are the ones who are conservative
and espouse traditional values and virtues, the ones who understand
that men and women are different, and are different for a biological
reason, the ones who understand science, and do not want to turn this
world into a copy of Tharna on Gor, the ones who are rational, the
ones who love poetry, music, art, and culture, the ones who watch
science-fiction and want the Doctor to remain a man because that is
where their love interest is and that is what embodies their love of
men. Which one are you?
I'm intelligent, but not conservative or traditional. I hate poetry, and
don't mind seeing the doctor as a woman even though I prefer men as a
love interest. So I guess - neither.
The Two Ronnies - The Worm That Turned (1 of 8)



"The Date line is 2012, England is in the grip of a new regime of
Terror. Traditionally a land of brave heroes and great statesmen.
Britain now laboured under the yoke of a power guaranteed to strike fear
into the hearts of all men... The country is being run by women... "
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Why Can't the Doctor Be More Like a Woman?
By VARAD MEHTA
July 22, 2017 8:00 AM
Jodie Whittaker as the new Dr. Who
By changing its main character into a woman, the
producers of
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Doctor Who have irrevocably altered the show and fans'
relationship to it.
Well, duh! The producers are _always_ irrevocably
altering the show and
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the fans' relationship to it. That's part of their job.
There's
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something
wrong if they don't. (Or do the people at the National
Review really
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That's not what they're supposed to do unless there's
something wrong
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with it. The fact that they did this when there was
nothing wrong with
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it is what has ruined it.
Oh really? Was there nothing wrong with it?
It was getting ratings of over 8 million with Eccleston,
Tennant, and Smith. Then the fool Moffat starting going down
PC loony lane, turning Capladi into the 6th Doctor, and
writing sentimentalist garbage for him after the Matt Smith
scripts ran out and the ratings halved. And what is Chibnall
now doing? Going even further down PC loony lane and
alienating even more viewers.
So in short, yes. There was something wrong with it. Even if
they fix the writing issues, they have the problem that they've
lost audience who aren't coming back unless they do something
to attract attention back to the series.
The audience are not going to come back because the Doctor has
been turned into a woman. What that will result in is even more
viewers leaving,
Do that many people hate women?
It's not about hating women. Small boys will not identify with a
mother figure or a female hero, period.
Small girls will.
At the expense of small boys. Small girls will also identify with a
male hero and father figure, therefore keeping the Doctor male
doubles the audience.
Post by suzeeq
Post by Agamemnon
Men will not identify with them and
Women will.
Most will not, especially the ones claiming to be feminists, because
it's nothing more than another reason for them take something away
from men. I've talked with them and despite promising to watch the
show they didn't and never will. It's not their kind of genera, and
why should men have to pay the price for this stupid sexist agenda?
Post by suzeeq
Post by Agamemnon
will not watch unless they fancy them. Women will not watch
because it's science-fiction and there is no male love interest
for them.
A lot of women enjoy science fiction and there doesn't need to be a
'love interest' to get them to watch.
Not many. They are outnumbered by men by more than 2:1. In the
Golden Age of science-fiction before it was dumbed down to attract
more female readers (a gimmick which backfired and caused readership
to fall) they were outnumbered 10:1.
Post by suzeeq
Post by Agamemnon
In order to attract the most people to watch Doctor Who the Doctor
must be played by an attractive male actor. David Tennant proves
my point. Peter Capaldi also proves it in reverse. Whittaker will
turn even more viewers off.
Many are looking forward to seeing her stories.
But will they watch? No!
It's nothing more than a stupid gimmick and anti-male rallying cry.
For someone who doesn't hate women, you don't seem to have met a real
one and hold some anachronistic views about male superiority.
I have met lots of real women. And do you know which ones are the most
intelligent and which the most stupid? The most dumb and most stupid
are the ones who claim to be feminists and push loony left agendas.
These are the ones who don't understand science-fiction and will never
watch Doctor Who, especially with a woman playing the Doctor. The
women who are the most intelligent are the ones who are conservative
and espouse traditional values and virtues, the ones who understand
that men and women are different, and are different for a biological
reason, the ones who understand science, and do not want to turn this
world into a copy of Tharna on Gor, the ones who are rational, the
ones who love poetry, music, art, and culture, the ones who watch
science-fiction and want the Doctor to remain a man because that is
where their love interest is and that is what embodies their love of
men. Which one are you?
I'm intelligent, but not conservative or traditional. I hate poetry, and
don't mind seeing the doctor as a woman even though I prefer men as a
love interest. So I guess - neither.
The Two Ronnies - The Worm That Turned (1 of 8)
http://youtu.be/GcMd1F1acSo
"The Date line is 2012, England is in the grip of a new regime of
Terror. Traditionally a land of brave heroes and great statesmen.
Britain now laboured under the yoke of a power guaranteed to strike fear
into the hearts of all men... The country is being run by women... "
Excellent series!
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Why Can't the Doctor Be More Like a Woman?
By VARAD MEHTA
July 22, 2017 8:00 AM
Jodie Whittaker as the new Dr. Who
By changing its main character into a woman, the
producers of
Post by Agamemnon
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Doctor Who have irrevocably altered the show and fans'
relationship to it.
Well, duh! The producers are _always_ irrevocably
altering the show and
Post by Agamemnon
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the fans' relationship to it. That's part of their job.
There's
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something
wrong if they don't. (Or do the people at the National
Review really
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That's not what they're supposed to do unless there's
something wrong
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with it. The fact that they did this when there was
nothing wrong with
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it is what has ruined it.
Oh really? Was there nothing wrong with it?
It was getting ratings of over 8 million with Eccleston,
Tennant, and Smith. Then the fool Moffat starting going down
PC loony lane, turning Capladi into the 6th Doctor, and
writing sentimentalist garbage for him after the Matt Smith
scripts ran out and the ratings halved. And what is Chibnall
now doing? Going even further down PC loony lane and
alienating even more viewers.
So in short, yes. There was something wrong with it. Even if
they fix the writing issues, they have the problem that they've
lost audience who aren't coming back unless they do something
to attract attention back to the series.
The audience are not going to come back because the Doctor has
been turned into a woman. What that will result in is even more
viewers leaving,
Do that many people hate women?
It's not about hating women. Small boys will not identify with a
mother figure or a female hero, period.
Small girls will.
At the expense of small boys. Small girls will also identify with a
male hero and father figure, therefore keeping the Doctor male
doubles the audience.
Post by suzeeq
Post by Agamemnon
Men will not identify with them and
Women will.
Most will not, especially the ones claiming to be feminists, because
it's nothing more than another reason for them take something away
from men. I've talked with them and despite promising to watch the
show they didn't and never will. It's not their kind of genera, and
why should men have to pay the price for this stupid sexist agenda?
Post by suzeeq
Post by Agamemnon
will not watch unless they fancy them. Women will not watch
because it's science-fiction and there is no male love interest
for them.
A lot of women enjoy science fiction and there doesn't need to be a
'love interest' to get them to watch.
Not many. They are outnumbered by men by more than 2:1. In the
Golden Age of science-fiction before it was dumbed down to attract
more female readers (a gimmick which backfired and caused readership
to fall) they were outnumbered 10:1.
Post by suzeeq
Post by Agamemnon
In order to attract the most people to watch Doctor Who the Doctor
must be played by an attractive male actor. David Tennant proves
my point. Peter Capaldi also proves it in reverse. Whittaker will
turn even more viewers off.
Many are looking forward to seeing her stories.
But will they watch? No!
It's nothing more than a stupid gimmick and anti-male rallying cry.
For someone who doesn't hate women, you don't seem to have met a real
one and hold some anachronistic views about male superiority.
I have met lots of real women. And do you know which ones are the most
intelligent and which the most stupid? The most dumb and most stupid
are the ones who claim to be feminists and push loony left agendas.
These are the ones who don't understand science-fiction and will never
watch Doctor Who, especially with a woman playing the Doctor. The
women who are the most intelligent are the ones who are conservative
and espouse traditional values and virtues, the ones who understand
that men and women are different, and are different for a biological
reason, the ones who understand science, and do not want to turn this
world into a copy of Tharna on Gor, the ones who are rational, the
ones who love poetry, music, art, and culture, the ones who watch
science-fiction and want the Doctor to remain a man because that is
where their love interest is and that is what embodies their love of
men. Which one are you?
I'm intelligent, but not conservative or traditional. I hate poetry, and
don't mind seeing the doctor as a woman even though I prefer men as a
love interest. So I guess - neither.
The Two Ronnies - The Worm That Turned (1 of 8)
http://youtu.be/GcMd1F1acSo
"The Date line is 2012, England is in the grip of a new regime of
Terror. Traditionally a land of brave heroes and great statesmen.
Britain now laboured under the yoke of a power guaranteed to strike fear
into the hearts of all men... The country is being run by women... "
Excellent series!
Ever seen the 2 Ronnies?
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For someone who doesn't hate women, you don't seem to have met a real
one and hold some anachronistic views about male superiority.
I have met lots of real women. And do you know which ones are the most
intelligent and which the most stupid? The most dumb and most stupid
are the ones who claim to be feminists and push loony left agendas.
These are the ones who don't understand science-fiction and will never
watch Doctor Who, especially with a woman playing the Doctor. The
women who are the most intelligent are the ones who are conservative
and espouse traditional values and virtues, the ones who understand
that men and women are different, and are different for a biological
reason, the ones who understand science, and do not want to turn this
world into a copy of Tharna on Gor, the ones who are rational, the
ones who love poetry, music, art, and culture, the ones who watch
science-fiction and want the Doctor to remain a man because that is
where their love interest is and that is what embodies their love of
men. Which one are you?
I'm intelligent, but not conservative or traditional. I hate poetry, and
don't mind seeing the doctor as a woman even though I prefer men as a
love interest. So I guess - neither.
The Two Ronnies - The Worm That Turned (1 of 8)
http://youtu.be/GcMd1F1acSo
"The Date line is 2012, England is in the grip of a new regime of
Terror. Traditionally a land of brave heroes and great statesmen.
Britain now laboured under the yoke of a power guaranteed to strike fear
into the hearts of all men... The country is being run by women... "
Huh?
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For someone who doesn't hate women, you don't seem to have met a real
one and hold some anachronistic views about male superiority.
I have met lots of real women. And do you know which ones are the most
intelligent and which the most stupid? The most dumb and most stupid
are the ones who claim to be feminists and push loony left agendas.
These are the ones who don't understand science-fiction and will never
watch Doctor Who, especially with a woman playing the Doctor. The
women who are the most intelligent are the ones who are conservative
and espouse traditional values and virtues, the ones who understand
that men and women are different, and are different for a biological
reason, the ones who understand science, and do not want to turn this
world into a copy of Tharna on Gor, the ones who are rational, the
ones who love poetry, music, art, and culture, the ones who watch
science-fiction and want the Doctor to remain a man because that is
where their love interest is and that is what embodies their love of
men. Which one are you?
I'm intelligent, but not conservative or traditional. I hate poetry, and
don't mind seeing the doctor as a woman even though I prefer men as a
love interest. So I guess - neither.
The Two Ronnies - The Worm That Turned (1 of 8)
http://youtu.be/GcMd1F1acSo
"The Date line is 2012, England is in the grip of a new regime of
Terror. Traditionally a land of brave heroes and great statesmen.
Britain now laboured under the yoke of a power guaranteed to strike fear
into the hearts of all men... The country is being run by women... "
Huh?
LOL!
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For someone who doesn't hate women, you don't seem to have met a
real one and hold some anachronistic views about male superiority.
I have met lots of real women. And do you know which ones are the
most intelligent and which the most stupid? The most dumb and most
stupid are the ones who claim to be feminists and push loony left
agendas. These are the ones who don't understand science-fiction and
will never watch Doctor Who, especially with a woman playing the
Doctor. The women who are the most intelligent are the ones who are
conservative and espouse traditional values and virtues, the ones
who understand that men and women are different, and are different
for a biological reason, the ones who understand science, and do not
want to turn this world into a copy of Tharna on Gor, the ones who
are rational, the ones who love poetry, music, art, and culture, the
ones who watch science-fiction and want the Doctor to remain a man
because that is where their love interest is and that is what
embodies their love of men. Which one are you?
I'm intelligent, but not conservative or traditional. I hate poetry,
and don't mind seeing the doctor as a woman even though I prefer men
as a love interest. So I guess - neither.
The Two Ronnies - The Worm That Turned (1 of 8)
http://youtu.be/GcMd1F1acSo
"The Date line is 2012, England is in the grip of a new regime of
Terror. Traditionally a land of brave heroes and great statesmen.
Britain now laboured under the yoke of a power guaranteed to strike
fear into the hearts of all men... The country is being run by women... "
Huh?
You've near heard of The Two Ronnies? Classic British comedy, and they
predicted what all this feminist PC lunacy would lead to 40 years ago.
Of course John Norman beat them to it by a decade, but his story Outlaw
of Gor was set on another planet, but probably influenced The Worm That
Turned.

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Why Can't the Doctor Be More Like a Woman?
By VARAD MEHTA
July 22, 2017 8:00 AM
Jodie Whittaker as the new Dr. Who
By changing its main character into a woman, the
producers of
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Doctor Who have irrevocably altered the show and fans'
relationship to it.
Well, duh! The producers are _always_ irrevocably altering
the show and
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the fans' relationship to it. That's part of their job.
There's
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something
wrong if they don't. (Or do the people at the National
Review really
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That's not what they're supposed to do unless there's
something wrong
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with it. The fact that they did this when there was nothing
wrong with
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it is what has ruined it.
Oh really? Was there nothing wrong with it?
It was getting ratings of over 8 million with Eccleston,
Tennant, and Smith. Then the fool Moffat starting going down PC
loony lane, turning Capladi into the 6th Doctor, and writing
sentimentalist garbage for him after the Matt Smith scripts ran
out and the ratings halved. And what is Chibnall now doing?
Going even further down PC loony lane and alienating even more
viewers.
So in short, yes. There was something wrong with it. Even if
they fix the writing issues, they have the problem that they've
lost audience who aren't coming back unless they do something to
attract attention back to the series.
The audience are not going to come back because the Doctor has
been turned into a woman. What that will result in is even more
viewers leaving,
Do that many people hate women?
It's not about hating women. Small boys will not identify with a
mother figure or a female hero, period.
Small girls will.
At the expense of small boys. Small girls will also identify with a
male hero and father figure, therefore keeping the Doctor male doubles
the audience.
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Post by Agamemnon
Men will not identify with them and
Women will.
Most will not, especially the ones claiming to be feminists, because
it's nothing more than another reason for them take something away
from men. I've talked with them and despite promising to watch the
show they didn't and never will. It's not their kind of genera, and
why should men have to pay the price for this stupid sexist agenda?
Post by suzeeq
Post by Agamemnon
will not watch unless they fancy them. Women will not watch because
it's science-fiction and there is no male love interest for them.
A lot of women enjoy science fiction and there doesn't need to be a
'love interest' to get them to watch.
Not many. They are outnumbered by men by more than 2:1. In the Golden
Age of science-fiction before it was dumbed down to attract more
female readers (a gimmick which backfired and caused readership to
fall) they were outnumbered 10:1.
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Post by Agamemnon
In order to attract the most people to watch Doctor Who the Doctor
must be played by an attractive male actor. David Tennant proves my
point. Peter Capaldi also proves it in reverse. Whittaker will turn
even more viewers off.
Many are looking forward to seeing her stories.
But will they watch? No!
It's nothing more than a stupid gimmick and anti-male rallying cry.
For someone who doesn't hate women, you don't seem to have met a real
one and hold some anachronistic views about male superiority.
I have met lots of real women. And do you know which ones are the most
intelligent and which the most stupid? The most dumb and most stupid are
the ones who claim to be feminists and push loony left agendas. These
are the ones who don't understand science-fiction and will never watch
Doctor Who, especially with a woman playing the Doctor. The women who
are the most intelligent are the ones who are conservative and espouse
traditional values and virtues, the ones who understand that men and
women are different, and are different for a biological reason, the ones
who understand science, and do not want to turn this world into a copy
of Tharna on Gor, the ones who are rational, the ones who love poetry,
music, art, and culture, the ones who watch science-fiction and want the
Doctor to remain a man because that is where their love interest is and
that is what embodies their love of men. Which one are you?
Suzeeq, depends how she defines herself.
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Why Can't the Doctor Be More Like a Woman?
By VARAD MEHTA
July 22, 2017 8:00 AM
Jodie Whittaker as the new Dr. Who
By changing its main character into a woman, the
producers of Doctor Who have irrevocably altered
the show and fans' relationship to it.
Well, duh! The producers are _always_ irrevocably
altering
the show and
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the fans' relationship to it. That's part of their job.
There's
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something
wrong if they don't. (Or do the people at the
National Review
really
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That's not what they're supposed to do unless there's
something wrong
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with it. The fact that they did this when there was
nothing
wrong with
Post by Agamemnon
it is what has ruined it.
Oh really? Was there nothing wrong with it?
It was getting ratings of over 8 million with Eccleston,
Tennant, and Smith. Then the fool Moffat starting going
down PC loony lane, turning Capladi into the 6th Doctor,
and writing sentimentalist garbage for him after the Matt
Smith scripts ran out and the ratings halved. And what is
Chibnall now doing? Going even further down PC loony lane
and alienating even more viewers.
So in short, yes. There was something wrong with it.
Even if they fix the writing issues, they have the problem
that they've lost audience who aren't coming back unless
they do something to attract attention back to the series.
The audience are not going to come back because the Doctor
has been turned into a woman. What that will result in is
even more viewers leaving,
Do that many people hate women?
It's not about hating women. Small boys will not identify
with a mother figure or a female hero, period.
Small girls will.
At the expense of small boys. Small girls will also identify
with a male hero and father figure, therefore keeping the
Doctor male doubles the audience.
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Post by Agamemnon
Men will not identify with them and
Women will.
Most will not, especially the ones claiming to be feminists,
because it's nothing more than another reason for them take
something away from men. I've talked with them and despite
promising to watch the show they didn't and never will. It's
not their kind of genera, and why should men have to pay the
price for this stupid sexist agenda?
Post by suzeeq
Post by Agamemnon
will not watch unless they fancy them. Women will not watch
because it's science-fiction and there is no male love
interest for them.
A lot of women enjoy science fiction and there doesn't need to
be a 'love interest' to get them to watch.
Not many. They are outnumbered by men by more than 2:1. In the
Golden Age of science-fiction before it was dumbed down to
attract more female readers (a gimmick which backfired and
caused readership to fall) they were outnumbered 10:1.
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In order to attract the most people to watch Doctor Who the
Doctor must be played by an attractive male actor. David
Tennant proves my point. Peter Capaldi also proves it in
reverse. Whittaker will turn even more viewers off.
Many are looking forward to seeing her stories.
But will they watch? No!
It's nothing more than a stupid gimmick and anti-male rallying cry.
For someone who doesn't hate women, you don't seem to have met a
real one and hold some anachronistic views about male
superiority.
You get that way when the only experience with women you've ever
had is masturbating to anime cartoons (pecause real porn is too
scary).
--
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland:
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-- David Bilek

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 >>
 >>>> Source
 >>>>
 >>>>
https://www.nationalreview.com/2017/07/doctor-who-jodie-whittaker-takes-over-role/
 >>>>
 >>>>
 >>>> CULTURE
 >>>> Why Can't the Doctor Be More Like a Woman?
 >>>> By VARAD MEHTA
 >>>>      July 22, 2017 8:00 AM
 >>>>
 >>>> Jodie Whittaker as the new Dr. Who
 >>>>
 >>>> By changing its main character into a woman, the producers of
 >>>> Doctor Who have irrevocably altered the show and fans'
 >>>> relationship to it.
 >>
 >> Well, duh!  The producers are _always_ irrevocably altering
the show and
 >> the fans' relationship to it.  That's part of their job.
There's
 >> something
 >> wrong if they don't. (Or do the people at the National Review really
 >
 > That's not what they're supposed to do unless there's something wrong
 > with it. The fact that they did this when there was nothing wrong with
 > it is what has ruined it.
Oh really?  Was there nothing wrong with it?
It was getting ratings of over 8 million with Eccleston, Tennant,
and Smith. Then the fool Moffat starting going down PC loony
lane, turning Capladi into the 6th Doctor, and writing
sentimentalist garbage for him after the Matt Smith scripts ran
out and the ratings halved. And what is Chibnall now doing? Going
even further down PC loony lane and alienating even more viewers.
So in short, yes.  There was something wrong with it.  Even if
they fix the writing issues, they have the problem that they've
lost audience who aren't coming back unless they do something to
attract attention back to the series.
The audience are not going to come back because the Doctor has been
turned into a woman. What that will result in is even more viewers
leaving,
  Do that many people hate women?
It's not about hating women. Small boys will not identify with a
mother figure or a female hero, period.
Small girls will.
At the expense of small boys. Small girls will also identify with a male
hero and father figure, therefore keeping the Doctor male doubles the
audience.
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Post by Agamemnon
Men will not identify with them and
Women will.
Most will not, especially the ones claiming to be feminists, because
it's nothing more than another reason for them take something away from
men. I've talked with them and despite promising to watch the show they
didn't and never will. It's not their kind of genera, and why should men
have to pay the price for this stupid sexist agenda?
Post by suzeeq
Post by Agamemnon
will not watch unless they fancy them. Women will not watch because
it's science-fiction and there is no male love interest for them.
A lot of women enjoy science fiction and there doesn't need to be a
'love interest' to get them to watch.
Not many. They are outnumbered by men by more than 2:1. In the Golden
Age of science-fiction before it was dumbed down to attract more female
readers (a gimmick which backfired and caused readership to fall) they
were outnumbered 10:1.
Exactly when was science fiction "dumbed down to attract more female
readers"?
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2018-02-28 11:08:43 UTC
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Why Can't the Doctor Be More Like a Woman?
By VARAD MEHTA
July 22, 2017 8:00 AM
Jodie Whittaker as the new Dr. Who
By changing its main character into a woman, the
producers of
Post by Agamemnon
Post by solar penguin
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Doctor Who have irrevocably altered the show and fans'
relationship to it.
Well, duh! The producers are _always_ irrevocably altering
the show and
Post by Agamemnon
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the fans' relationship to it. That's part of their job.
There's
Post by Agamemnon
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something
wrong if they don't. (Or do the people at the National
Review really
Post by Agamemnon
That's not what they're supposed to do unless there's
something wrong
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with it. The fact that they did this when there was nothing
wrong with
Post by Agamemnon
it is what has ruined it.
Oh really? Was there nothing wrong with it?
It was getting ratings of over 8 million with Eccleston,
Tennant, and Smith. Then the fool Moffat starting going down PC
loony lane, turning Capladi into the 6th Doctor, and writing
sentimentalist garbage for him after the Matt Smith scripts ran
out and the ratings halved. And what is Chibnall now doing?
Going even further down PC loony lane and alienating even more
viewers.
So in short, yes. There was something wrong with it. Even if
they fix the writing issues, they have the problem that they've
lost audience who aren't coming back unless they do something to
attract attention back to the series.
The audience are not going to come back because the Doctor has
been turned into a woman. What that will result in is even more
viewers leaving,
Do that many people hate women?
It's not about hating women. Small boys will not identify with a
mother figure or a female hero, period.
Small girls will.
At the expense of small boys. Small girls will also identify with a
male hero and father figure, therefore keeping the Doctor male doubles
the audience.
Post by suzeeq
Post by Agamemnon
Men will not identify with them and
Women will.
Most will not, especially the ones claiming to be feminists, because
it's nothing more than another reason for them take something away
from men. I've talked with them and despite promising to watch the
show they didn't and never will. It's not their kind of genera, and
why should men have to pay the price for this stupid sexist agenda?
Post by suzeeq
Post by Agamemnon
will not watch unless they fancy them. Women will not watch because
it's science-fiction and there is no male love interest for them.
A lot of women enjoy science fiction and there doesn't need to be a
'love interest' to get them to watch.
Not many. They are outnumbered by men by more than 2:1. In the Golden
Age of science-fiction before it was dumbed down to attract more
female readers (a gimmick which backfired and caused readership to
fall) they were outnumbered 10:1.
Exactly when was science fiction "dumbed down to attract more female
readers"?
At the end of the Golden Age, the end of the 1950s.
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 >>
 >>>> Source
 >>>>
 >>>>
https://www.nationalreview.com/2017/07/doctor-who-jodie-whittaker-takes-over-role/
 >>>>
 >>>>
 >>>> CULTURE
 >>>> Why Can't the Doctor Be More Like a Woman?
 >>>> By VARAD MEHTA
 >>>>      July 22, 2017 8:00 AM
 >>>>
 >>>> Jodie Whittaker as the new Dr. Who
 >>>>
 >>>> By changing its main character into a woman, the producers of
 >>>> Doctor Who have irrevocably altered the show and fans'
 >>>> relationship to it.
 >>
 >> Well, duh!  The producers are _always_ irrevocably
altering the show and
 >> the fans' relationship to it.  That's part of their job.
There's
 >> something
 >> wrong if they don't. (Or do the people at the National Review really
 >
 > That's not what they're supposed to do unless there's something wrong
 > with it. The fact that they did this when there was nothing
wrong with
 > it is what has ruined it.
Oh really?  Was there nothing wrong with it?
It was getting ratings of over 8 million with Eccleston,
Tennant, and Smith. Then the fool Moffat starting going down PC
loony lane, turning Capladi into the 6th Doctor, and writing
sentimentalist garbage for him after the Matt Smith scripts ran
out and the ratings halved. And what is Chibnall now doing?
Going even further down PC loony lane and alienating even more
viewers.
So in short, yes.  There was something wrong with it.  Even if
they fix the writing issues, they have the problem that they've
lost audience who aren't coming back unless they do something to
attract attention back to the series.
The audience are not going to come back because the Doctor has
been turned into a woman. What that will result in is even more
viewers leaving,
  Do that many people hate women?
It's not about hating women. Small boys will not identify with a
mother figure or a female hero, period.
Small girls will.
At the expense of small boys. Small girls will also identify with a
male hero and father figure, therefore keeping the Doctor male
doubles the audience.
Post by suzeeq
Post by Agamemnon
Men will not identify with them and
Women will.
Most will not, especially the ones claiming to be feminists, because
it's nothing more than another reason for them take something away
from men. I've talked with them and despite promising to watch the
show they didn't and never will. It's not their kind of genera, and
why should men have to pay the price for this stupid sexist agenda?
Post by suzeeq
Post by Agamemnon
will not watch unless they fancy them. Women will not watch because
it's science-fiction and there is no male love interest for them.
A lot of women enjoy science fiction and there doesn't need to be a
'love interest' to get them to watch.
Not many. They are outnumbered by men by more than 2:1. In the Golden
Age of science-fiction before it was dumbed down to attract more
female readers (a gimmick which backfired and caused readership to
fall) they were outnumbered 10:1.
Exactly when was science fiction "dumbed down to attract more female
readers"?
At the end of the Golden Age, the end of the 1950s.
Who made this decision and how?
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Why Can't the Doctor Be More Like a Woman?
By VARAD MEHTA
July 22, 2017 8:00 AM
Jodie Whittaker as the new Dr. Who
By changing its main character into a woman, the producers of
Doctor Who have irrevocably altered the show and fans'
relationship to it.
Well, duh! The producers are _always_ irrevocably altering the
show and
Post by Agamemnon
Post by solar penguin
the fans' relationship to it. That's part of their job. There's
something
wrong if they don't. (Or do the people at the National Review
really
Post by Agamemnon
That's not what they're supposed to do unless there's something
wrong
Post by Agamemnon
with it. The fact that they did this when there was nothing
wrong with
Post by Agamemnon
it is what has ruined it.
Oh really? Was there nothing wrong with it?
It was getting ratings of over 8 million with Eccleston, Tennant,
and Smith. Then the fool Moffat starting going down PC loony lane,
turning Capladi into the 6th Doctor, and writing sentimentalist
garbage for him after the Matt Smith scripts ran out and the ratings
halved. And what is Chibnall now doing? Going even further down PC
loony lane and alienating even more viewers.
So in short, yes. There was something wrong with it. Even if they
fix the writing issues, they have the problem that they've lost
audience who aren't coming back unless they do something to attract
attention back to the series.
The audience are not going to come back because the Doctor has been
turned into a woman. What that will result in is even more viewers
leaving,
Do that many people hate women?
It's not about hating women. Small boys will not identify with a mother
figure or a female hero, period.
Small girls will.
Post by Agamemnon
Men will not identify with them and
Women will.
Post by Agamemnon
will not watch unless they fancy them. Women will not watch because it's
science-fiction and there is no male love interest for them.
A lot of women enjoy science fiction and there doesn't need to be a
'love interest' to get them to watch.
Post by Agamemnon
In order to attract the most people to watch Doctor Who the Doctor must
be played by an attractive male actor. David Tennant proves my point.
Peter Capaldi also proves it in reverse. Whittaker will turn even more
viewers off.
Many are looking forward to seeing her stories.
You being one of them?
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A lot of women enjoy science fiction and there doesn't need to
be a 'love interest' to get them to watch.
Yeah, the issue isn't "Women don't like science fiction" so much as
"we don't want *gurlz* in our tree house because gurlz have cooties."
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Terry Austin

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Why Can't the Doctor Be More Like a Woman?
By VARAD MEHTA
July 22, 2017 8:00 AM
Jodie Whittaker as the new Dr. Who
By changing its main character into a woman, the producers of
Doctor Who have irrevocably altered the show and fans'
relationship to it.
Well, duh! The producers are _always_ irrevocably altering the
show and
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the fans' relationship to it. That's part of their job. There's
something
wrong if they don't. (Or do the people at the National Review
really
Post by Agamemnon
That's not what they're supposed to do unless there's something
wrong
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with it. The fact that they did this when there was nothing
wrong with
Post by Agamemnon
it is what has ruined it.
Oh really? Was there nothing wrong with it?
It was getting ratings of over 8 million with Eccleston, Tennant,
and Smith. Then the fool Moffat starting going down PC loony lane,
turning Capladi into the 6th Doctor, and writing sentimentalist
garbage for him after the Matt Smith scripts ran out and the ratings
halved. And what is Chibnall now doing? Going even further down PC
loony lane and alienating even more viewers.
So in short, yes. There was something wrong with it. Even if they
fix the writing issues, they have the problem that they've lost
audience who aren't coming back unless they do something to attract
attention back to the series.
The audience are not going to come back because the Doctor has been
turned into a woman. What that will result in is even more viewers
leaving,
Do that many people hate women?
It's not about hating women. Small boys will not identify with a mother
figure or a female hero, period. Men will not identify with them and
will not watch unless they fancy them. Women will not watch because it's
science-fiction and there is no male love interest for them.
In order to attract the most people to watch Doctor Who the Doctor must
be played by an attractive male actor. David Tennant proves my point.
Peter Capaldi also proves it in reverse. Whittaker will turn even more
viewers off.
Whittaker will be Chibnall's scapegoat.
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2018-02-27 21:41:11 UTC
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Why Can't the Doctor Be More Like a Woman?
By VARAD MEHTA
July 22, 2017 8:00 AM
Jodie Whittaker as the new Dr. Who
By changing its main character into a woman, the producers of
Doctor Who have irrevocably altered the show and fans'
relationship to it.
Well, duh! The producers are _always_ irrevocably altering the show
and
Post by Agamemnon
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the fans' relationship to it. That's part of their job. There's something
wrong if they don't. (Or do the people at the National Review really
That's not what they're supposed to do unless there's something wrong
with it. The fact that they did this when there was nothing wrong with
it is what has ruined it.
Oh really? Was there nothing wrong with it?
It was getting ratings of over 8 million with Eccleston, Tennant, and
Smith. Then the fool Moffat starting going down PC loony lane, turning
Capladi into the 6th Doctor, and writing sentimentalist garbage for him
after the Matt Smith scripts ran out and the ratings halved. And what is
Chibnall now doing? Going even further down PC loony lane and alienating
even more viewers.
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think the programme hasn't changed since 1963?)
The Doctor was always a man. What was wrong with him being a man?
Actually at first he was always old. What was wrong with him being old?
He's still old. He should have been portrayed as acting his age instead
of acting like a child pretending to be a superhero.
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Capaldi was a bad choice of actor, and Moffat should have quit at the
same time of Matt Smith or been sacked after Capaldi's first series.
That's when it all began to go to the dogs.
So much for there not being something wrong with it.
Capaldi was bad enough. Now we have Whittaker inserted into the series
as a gimmick, who can't even talk properly so that people can understand
a word she's saying.
Whittaker is due to Chibnall's nepotism!
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Why Can't the Doctor Be More Like a Woman?
By VARAD MEHTA
July 22, 2017 8:00 AM
Jodie Whittaker as the new Dr. Who
By changing its main character into a woman, the producers of
Doctor Who have irrevocably altered the show and fans'
relationship to it.
Well, duh! The producers are _always_ irrevocably altering the show
and
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the fans' relationship to it. That's part of their job. There's something
wrong if they don't. (Or do the people at the National Review really
That's not what they're supposed to do unless there's something wrong
with it. The fact that they did this when there was nothing wrong with
it is what has ruined it.
Oh really? Was there nothing wrong with it?
It was getting ratings of over 8 million with Eccleston, Tennant, and
Smith. Then the fool Moffat starting going down PC loony lane, turning
Capladi into the 6th Doctor, and writing sentimentalist garbage for him
after the Matt Smith scripts ran out and the ratings halved. And what is
Chibnall now doing? Going even further down PC loony lane and alienating
even more viewers.
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think the programme hasn't changed since 1963?)
The Doctor was always a man. What was wrong with him being a man?
Actually at first he was always old. What was wrong with him being old?
He's still old. He should have been portrayed as acting his age instead
of acting like a child pretending to be a superhero.
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Capaldi was a bad choice of actor, and Moffat should have quit at the
same time of Matt Smith or been sacked after Capaldi's first series.
That's when it all began to go to the dogs.
So much for there not being something wrong with it.
Capaldi was bad enough. Now we have Whittaker inserted into the series
as a gimmick, who can't even talk properly so that people can understand
a word she's saying.
Whittaker is due to Chibnall's nepotism!
As is Bradly Walsh.

Doctor Who is looking towards suffering the same fate as "Troy: Fall of
a City" who also deliberately alienated the people most likely to have
watched it and has faced universal derision on social media.
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2018-02-27 22:48:29 UTC
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Why Can't the Doctor Be More Like a Woman?
By VARAD MEHTA
July 22, 2017 8:00 AM
Jodie Whittaker as the new Dr. Who
By changing its main character into a woman, the producers of
Doctor Who have irrevocably altered the show and fans'
relationship to it.
Well, duh! The producers are _always_ irrevocably altering the show
and
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the fans' relationship to it. That's part of their job. There's something
wrong if they don't. (Or do the people at the National Review really
That's not what they're supposed to do unless there's something wrong
with it. The fact that they did this when there was nothing wrong with
it is what has ruined it.
Oh really? Was there nothing wrong with it?
It was getting ratings of over 8 million with Eccleston, Tennant, and
Smith. Then the fool Moffat starting going down PC loony lane, turning
Capladi into the 6th Doctor, and writing sentimentalist garbage for him
after the Matt Smith scripts ran out and the ratings halved. And what is
Chibnall now doing? Going even further down PC loony lane and alienating
even more viewers.
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think the programme hasn't changed since 1963?)
The Doctor was always a man. What was wrong with him being a man?
Actually at first he was always old. What was wrong with him being old?
He's still old. He should have been portrayed as acting his age instead
of acting like a child pretending to be a superhero.
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Post by Agamemnon
Capaldi was a bad choice of actor, and Moffat should have quit at the
same time of Matt Smith or been sacked after Capaldi's first series.
That's when it all began to go to the dogs.
So much for there not being something wrong with it.
Capaldi was bad enough. Now we have Whittaker inserted into the series
as a gimmick, who can't even talk properly so that people can understand
a word she's saying.
Whittaker is due to Chibnall's nepotism!
As is Bradly Walsh.
Doctor Who is looking towards suffering the same fate as "Troy: Fall of
a City" who also deliberately alienated the people most likely to have
watched it and has faced universal derision on social media.
When the 1st new episode of DW hits, the derison will be loud.
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2018-02-26 22:12:23 UTC
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Each Doctor has a different personality and temperament. So too will the 13th. Yet by making the Doctor a woman, new showrunner Chris Chibnall and company have placed themselves on the horns of a dilemma. The 13th Doctor must be different, but in ways that cannot be immediately attributed to her biology. For if she is different in ways that can be chalked up to her being female, then it does make a difference that she’s a woman. Whereas the whole point of casting a woman in the role is to prove that it doesn’t matter. (Though I suspect those who spent the past decade advocating the change rather think it does.)
The Doctor can be a woman because there’s nothing special about being one. There’s nothing unique or significant about womanhood. It’s not an essential trait or characteristic — and that is the only way the Doctor can still be the Doctor while being a woman, that it is something indifferent. For if the Doctor changes in some fundamental way because he is now a woman, then he won’t be the Doctor any more. Which would mean, therefore, that in fact the Doctor can’t be a woman. Hence the dilemma.
Aggy's solution: Make JodieDoc an avid hunter/biology experimenter.
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Each Doctor has a different personality and temperament. So too will
the 13th. Yet by making the Doctor a woman, new showrunner Chris
Chibnall and company have placed themselves on the horns of a dilemma.
The 13th Doctor must be different, but in ways that cannot be
immediately attributed to her biology. For if she is different in ways
that can be chalked up to her being female, then it does make a
difference that she’s a woman. Whereas the whole point of casting a
woman in the role is to prove that it doesn’t matter. (Though I
suspect those who spent the past decade advocating the change rather
think it does.)
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The Doctor can be a woman because there’s nothing special about
being one. There’s nothing unique or significant about womanhood.
It’s not an essential trait or characteristic — and that is the only
way the Doctor can still be the Doctor while being a woman, that it is
something indifferent. For if the Doctor changes in some fundamental way
because he is now a woman, then he won’t be the Doctor any more. Which
would mean, therefore, that in fact the Doctor can’t be a woman. Hence
the dilemma.
Aggy's solution: Make JodieDoc an avid hunter/biology experimenter.
Aga has a different solution.
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Each Doctor has a different personality and temperament. So too will the 13th. Yet by making the Doctor a woman, new showrunner Chris Chibnall and company have placed themselves on the horns of a dilemma. The 13th Doctor must be different, but in ways that cannot be immediately attributed to her biology. For if she is different in ways that can be chalked up to her being female, then it does make a difference that she’s a woman. Whereas the whole point of casting a woman in the role is to prove that it doesn’t matter. (Though I suspect those who spent the past decade advocating the change rather think it does.)
The Doctor can be a woman because there’s nothing special about being one. There’s nothing unique or significant about womanhood. It’s not an essential trait or characteristic — and that is the only way the Doctor can still be the Doctor while being a woman, that it is something indifferent. For if the Doctor changes in some fundamental way because he is now a woman, then he won’t be the Doctor any more. Which would mean, therefore, that in fact the Doctor can’t be a woman. Hence the dilemma.
Aggy's solution: Make JodieDoc an avid hunter/biology experimenter.
Exactly! My solution works. If Chibnall doesn't do something similar,
and it doesn't look likely with the Mork & Mindy costume, then it will
all blow up in his face.
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Each Doctor has a different personality and temperament. So too will
the 13th. Yet by making the Doctor a woman, new showrunner Chris
Chibnall and company have placed themselves on the horns of a dilemma.
The 13th Doctor must be different, but in ways that cannot be
immediately attributed to her biology. For if she is different in ways
that can be chalked up to her being female, then it does make a
difference that she’s a woman. Whereas the whole point of casting a
woman in the role is to prove that it doesn’t matter. (Though I
suspect those who spent the past decade advocating the change rather
think it does.)
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The Doctor can be a woman because there’s nothing special about
being one. There’s nothing unique or significant about womanhood.
It’s not an essential trait or characteristic — and that is the only
way the Doctor can still be the Doctor while being a woman, that it is
something indifferent. For if the Doctor changes in some fundamental way
because he is now a woman, then he won’t be the Doctor any more. Which
would mean, therefore, that in fact the Doctor can’t be a woman. Hence
the dilemma.
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Aggy's solution: Make JodieDoc an avid hunter/biology experimenter.
Exactly! My solution works. If Chibnall doesn't do something similar,
and it doesn't look likely with the Mork & Mindy costume, then it will
all blow up in his face.
It already is.
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Why Can't the Doctor Be More Like a Woman?
By VARAD MEHTA
July 22, 2017 8:00 AM
Jodie Whittaker as the new Dr. Who
By changing its main character into a woman, the producers of Doctor Who have irrevocably altered the show and fans’ relationship to it.
The announcement that Jodie Whittaker will become the first woman to play the title role on the world’s longest-running science-fiction television program elicited reactions so predictable they could have been scripted. Those who had clamored for the last decade that the next Doctor should be female applauded Whittaker’s casting as a blow for female equality and finally bringing Doctor Who into the 21st century. Those who snuff the approach of political correctness in every tainted breeze took to Twitter (do they exist anywhere else?) to rail against this surrender to the social-justice warriors and vowed never to watch the show again. And those with better things to do used their Sunday in more productive pursuits, such as betting on which character(s) would die on the season premiere of Game of Thrones.
I don’t care about reactions to the announcement, positive or negative. My concern is the impact such a radical change will have on the fabric of a series whose first episode aired the day after the JFK assassination, and fans’ relationship to it, a relationship that has experienced more than its share of trials and tribulations. Put simply, Jodie Whittaker’s success in the role will depend on whether she’s the Doctor or a woman first. Yet because of the circumstances in which she was chosen, she may not be able to be either.
Until now there was never a question of whether the Doctor would be a man or the Doctor first, since there was no distinction between the two. With Whittaker’s assumption of the role, that distinction will now exist. Something in the Doctor’s character will change. The question is whether what is changing is fundamental. I would say yes; sex is an integral component of personal identity. The BBC thinks otherwise. It must, or it wouldn’t be making the change.
From Doctor Who’s inception, its makers have operated under the assumption that their hero is male. One need only look at how he has been characterized over the last half-century to see the truth of this. Take the current Doctor. He is abrupt, condescending, domineering, and brusque, has little sense of social decorum, and often treats humans as amusing pets who can talk but have nothing worthwhile to say. He doesn’t suffer fools gladly or care what others think. The Doctor’s lack of social graces became so bad that his traveling companion had him write cue cards with dialogue suggestions on them so he could feign a modicum of empathy and have normal interactions with the humans he met.
Whatever the Doctor’s personality in each incarnation, its traits are generally ones we associate with men. From William Hartnell’s grandfatherly gentility (the First Doctor was literally a grandfather, his first companion being his granddaughter) to Peter Capaldi’s evolution from “rude genius” to “aging rock star” to “hip teacher,” the Doctor has been recognizably male.
This is one reason why the transformation may seem especially dramatic with a woman replacing Capaldi, whose Twelfth Doctor is something of a jerk. Many of his characteristics are the type that, though tolerated (and even encouraged) in a man, are much less so in a woman; indeed, are the sort that get a woman who exhibits them labeled “bossy” or a “bitch.”
Each Doctor has a different personality and temperament. So too will the 13th. Yet by making the Doctor a woman, new showrunner Chris Chibnall and company have placed themselves on the horns of a dilemma.
Even the kind of fictional character the Doctor is, is prototypically male: the eccentric mad scientist. None of the Doctors was madder or more eccentric than Tom Baker’s Fourth, with his teeth and curls, impossibly long scarf, and penchant to offer jelly babies to everyone he encountered. The Eleventh, as eccentric as ever, described himself as a “mad man with a box,” a box that travels anywhere in time and space. An eccentric woman is Eleanor Abernathy.
Each Doctor has a different personality and temperament. So too will the 13th. Yet by making the Doctor a woman, new showrunner Chris Chibnall and company have placed themselves on the horns of a dilemma. The 13th Doctor must be different, but in ways that cannot be immediately attributed to her biology. For if she is different in ways that can be chalked up to her being female, then it does make a difference that she’s a woman. Whereas the whole point of casting a woman in the role is to prove that it doesn’t matter. (Though I suspect those who spent the past decade advocating the change rather think it does.)
The Doctor can be a woman because there’s nothing special about being one. There’s nothing unique or significant about womanhood. It’s not an essential trait or characteristic — and that is the only way the Doctor can still be the Doctor while being a woman, that it is something indifferent. For if the Doctor changes in some fundamental way because he is now a woman, then he won’t be the Doctor any more. Which would mean, therefore, that in fact the Doctor can’t be a woman. Hence the dilemma.
The most beloved of all the Doctor’s companions, Sarah Jane Smith, once asserted that “there’s nothing only about being a girl.” The BBC no longer agrees. Actions speak louder than words, and the BBC’s says that men and women are interchangeable.
What purpose, then, does making the Doctor a woman serve? If the answer is that “it proves that a woman can be the Doctor,” that is an answer in terms of the real world. What is the answer to that question in terms of Doctor Who? That’s the question to ask. What will change with a female Doctor?
One of the main differences between the current version of the show and the original that aired from 1963 to 1989 is that there is, to coin a phrase, a lot more hanky-panky in the TARDIS now than there used to be. The Tenth Doctor, played by David Tennant, was something of a romantic idol. His female companions pined after him. Matt Smith’s Eleventh Doctor even became a husband, marrying a character who in a plot twist was revealed to be the daughter of his companions. With Capaldi, the oldest actor to play the part in several decades, occupying the TARDIS, the program has been thankfully free of soap-operatic elements.
One can readily envision them returning with Whittaker, who is 35. The relationship stuff was tedious when the Doctor was a man. Imagine how rebarbative it will be after three years of everyone hitting on a female Doctor, villains included. And worse yet, commenting on her looks and questioning her intelligence, competence, authority, leadership, what have you. Aha! you say, that’s exactly what happens to women in the real world. Just so. But Doctor Who is not a university course on sociology. It’s a television program. A single note played endlessly can no longer be heard.
It’s an interesting thought experiment, turning the Doctor into a woman and seeing how people react to that. But a TV show isn’t a thought experiment. One season of “Oh my God, Doctor, you have breasts!” would be bad enough. Three seasons’ worth, the average length of an actor’s time in the role, would be intolerable. Viewers will get very tired very fast of being reminded each episode that the Doctor has internal plumbing now.
The temptation to remind them will be strong, especially if hostility to Whittaker’s casting persists or even increases. When asked in February about the possibility of a woman’s taking over the role, Chibnall declared that he didn’t want the casting of the new Doctor to be a gimmick. Yet in a statement accompanying the announcement of Whittaker’s casting, he proclaimed that he always wanted the 13th Doctor to be a woman.
Either Chibnall is lying now or he was lying in February, because casting a woman in the lead after it’s been played by men since the program’s debut is the definition of a gimmick. It can’t come across any other way. This puts Whittaker in an untenable situation, since she is being asked to solve problems that are beyond her ability and remit to fix.
Doctor Who’s ratings are currently half of what they were at the peak of the revival’s popularity at the start of the decade. A common refrain is to attribute this decline to Capaldi’s age; younger audiences, this argument runs, simply can’t relate to an older Doctor. More likely, fans have realized that the show is out of ideas and running on fumes.
The series is ripping itself off more and more. This season was especially egregious, with each episode containing numerous homages, references, and allusions to earlier stories. The season finale was especially notable in this regard. It was inevitable that “new” Who would borrow elements from “classic” Who. They are, after all, supposed to be the same show. The problem lately is that new Whohas taken to rehashing itself. Stories in this, its tenth season, bore strong resemblances to ones that aired only a few years ago.
The problems besetting Doctor Who are of a nature that cannot be resolved by giving the Doctor a sex change. Repetitive plots, convoluted story arcs, uninteresting villains — what ails the show isn’t who plays the Doctor but unimaginative writing that more and more each week rehashes and repackages earlier storylines. Doctor Who has become one big metacommentary on itself. No wonder fans have gotten bored and casual viewers have drifted away.
How does Jodie Whittaker solve that? If you’re just going to do the standard base-under-siege or monster-of-the-week scenario, but now with double the X chromosomes, the metamorphosis is literally going to be a cosmetic one. This would make casting a woman seem even more like a gimmick born of desperation to boost ratings.
The pressure on Whittaker to deliver will be immense. The pressure on fans will be even greater. Which is why the most unforgivable consequence of the BBC’s decision is the way it forever alters fans’ relationship to Doctor Who.
Every fan likes some Doctors (my favorite is the Fifth, played by Peter Davison) more than others. Hitherto this has been a matter of personal taste and aesthetics. No one suspects ulterior motives if a fan doesn’t take a shine to William Hartnell’s First Doctor, an obstreperous codger whose serials unfold at a leisurely, even turgid pace in black-and-white without modern flourishes; or dislikes Jon Pertwee’s Third Doctor, whose adventures often descend into interminable environmental sermonizing.
Will anyone be allowed to dislike the 13th Doctor for normal reasons? I doubt it and strongly suspect anyone who demurs will reflexively be accused of sexism. The imperative to defend Whittaker’s selection and everything it stands for will simply be too strong to overcome. As Hannah Long writes, “the casting insulate[s] the show from any artistic criticism, because it elevates the enterprise from entertainment to cause.”
The producers have made it so that liking (or not) the new Doctor can no longer be merely a matter of individual preference. It is, rather, an obligation, a duty, an expression of one’s social and ideological attitudes. Embracing her is a sign you’re a good citizen and human being. To oppose her is to oppose progress and the emancipation of women. The BBC needn’t worry. Its viewers would never do anything so vulgar. They’re too busy basking in the good feelings to wonder why a TV show that is a half century old suddenly must transform itself into a vehicle for proselytizing feminism or why one person’s art should be conscripted into another person’s cause.
What happens if they start wondering? Who gets the blame if things go wrong, if the 13th Doctor proves unlucky? Whittaker, for not being up to the task of bearing the burden placed on her shoulders? Or will fans be accused of being Luddites unwilling to accept the 21st century?
A recurrent motif in “new” Who is that the Doctor is a killer with the blood of countless beings on his hands. His quest for redemption for having annihilated his own people to end a war that threatened the universe is arguably the primary theme of the 2005 revival. The Doctor’s decision to wipe out his own people to end the war and save creation was so awful, so cataclysmic, that future Doctors disowned the incarnation that made it, denying him even the name “Doctor.”
It was a judgment imbued with a kind of divine fury and righteousness. It was terrible. Yet it was just. In other words, exactly the sort of decision we can envision a man making. Can we envision a woman making it? Can there, that is, be a female War Doctor (as the Doctor who made it is known)? And if there were, for which would she incur more opprobrium — pushing the button, or not? Such is the trap the BBC has now placed itself in. People will complain when a woman acts like the Doctor — and when the Doctor acts like a woman.
If the Doctor can’t be a woman, then Doctor Who with a woman in the title role is no longer Doctor Who. With this change, something essential, something ineffable, is being lost which, once gone, will never be regained. The Cloister Bell is tolling. I fear it won’t stop as long as the 13th Doctor is piloting the TARDIS.
-- Varad Mehta is a historian who lives in suburban Philadelphia.
Well said! And now we've seen the choice of companions, the
soap-operatics, the silly Mork & Mindy costume, and the Game of
Thrones/Lord of the Ring's titles, and heard Whittaker's
incomprehensible accent, it's alienated just about everyone that wasn't
alienated already.

The backlash has already begun. Just look at the ratings and
condemnation of "Troy: Fall of a City", which has been called out for
it's cultural appropriation, offensive and racist casting, terrible
writing, and it's boring pacing and crass dialogue.
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Why Can't the Doctor Be More Like a Woman?
By VARAD MEHTA
July 22, 2017 8:00 AM
Jodie Whittaker as the new Dr. Who
By changing its main character into a woman, the producers of Doctor
Who have irrevocably altered the show and fans’ relationship to
it.
Post by The Doctor
The announcement that Jodie Whittaker will become the first woman to
play the title role on the world’s longest-running
science-fiction television program elicited reactions so predictable
they could have been scripted. Those who had clamored for the last
decade that the next Doctor should be female applauded
Whittaker’s casting as a blow for female equality and finally
bringing Doctor Who into the 21st century. Those who snuff the
approach of political correctness in every tainted breeze took to
Twitter (do they exist anywhere else?) to rail against this surrender to
the social-justice warriors and vowed never to watch the show again. And
those with better things to do used their Sunday in more productive
pursuits, such as betting on which character(s) would die on the season
premiere of Game of Thrones.
Post by The Doctor
I don’t care about reactions to the announcement, positive or
negative. My concern is the impact such a radical change will have on
the fabric of a series whose first episode aired the day after the JFK
assassination, and fans’ relationship to it, a relationship that
has experienced more than its share of trials and tribulations. Put
simply, Jodie Whittaker’s success in the role will depend on
whether she’s the Doctor or a woman first. Yet because of the
circumstances in which she was chosen, she may not be able to be either.
Post by The Doctor
Until now there was never a question of whether the Doctor would be a
man or the Doctor first, since there was no distinction between the two.
With Whittaker’s assumption of the role, that distinction will
now exist. Something in the Doctor’s character will change. The
question is whether what is changing is fundamental. I would say yes;
sex is an integral component of personal identity. The BBC thinks
otherwise. It must, or it wouldn’t be making the change.
Post by The Doctor
From Doctor Who’s inception, its makers have operated under
the assumption that their hero is male. One need only look at how he has
been characterized over the last half-century to see the truth of this.
Take the current Doctor. He is abrupt, condescending, domineering, and
brusque, has little sense of social decorum, and often treats humans as
amusing pets who can talk but have nothing worthwhile to say. He
doesn’t suffer fools gladly or care what others think. The
Doctor’s lack of social graces became so bad that his traveling
companion had him write cue cards with dialogue suggestions on them so
he could feign a modicum of empathy and have normal interactions with
the humans he met.
Post by The Doctor
Whatever the Doctor’s personality in each incarnation, its
traits are generally ones we associate with men. From William
Hartnell’s grandfatherly gentility (the First Doctor was
literally a grandfather, his first companion being his granddaughter) to
Peter Capaldi’s evolution from “rude genius” to
“aging rock star” to “hip teacher,” the Doctor
has been recognizably male.
Post by The Doctor
This is one reason why the transformation may seem especially dramatic
with a woman replacing Capaldi, whose Twelfth Doctor is something of a
jerk. Many of his characteristics are the type that, though tolerated
(and even encouraged) in a man, are much less so in a woman; indeed, are
the sort that get a woman who exhibits them labeled “bossy”
or a “bitch.”
Post by The Doctor
Each Doctor has a different personality and temperament. So too will
the 13th. Yet by making the Doctor a woman, new showrunner Chris
Chibnall and company have placed themselves on the horns of a dilemma.
Post by The Doctor
Even the kind of fictional character the Doctor is, is prototypically
male: the eccentric mad scientist. None of the Doctors was madder or
more eccentric than Tom Baker’s Fourth, with his teeth and curls,
impossibly long scarf, and penchant to offer jelly babies to everyone he
encountered. The Eleventh, as eccentric as ever, described himselfÂ
as a “mad man with a box,” a box that travels anywhere in
time and space. An eccentric woman is Eleanor Abernathy.
Post by The Doctor
Each Doctor has a different personality and temperament. So too will
the 13th. Yet by making the Doctor a woman, new showrunner Chris
Chibnall and company have placed themselves on the horns of a dilemma.
The 13th Doctor must be different, but in ways that cannot be
immediately attributed to her biology. For if she is different in ways
that can be chalked up to her being female, then it does make a
difference that she’s a woman. Whereas the whole point of casting
a woman in the role is to prove that it doesn’t matter. (Though I
suspect those who spent the past decade advocating the change rather
think it does.)
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The Doctor can be a woman because there’s nothing special about
being one. There’s nothing unique or significant about womanhood.
It’s not an essential trait or characteristic — and that
is the only way the Doctor can still be the Doctor while being a woman,
that it is something indifferent. For if the Doctor changes in some
fundamental way because he is now a woman, then he won’t be the
Doctor any more. Which would mean, therefore, that in fact the Doctor
can’t be a woman. Hence the dilemma.
Post by The Doctor
The most beloved of all the Doctor’s companions, Sarah Jane
Smith, once asserted that “there’s nothing only about
being a girl.” The BBC no longer agrees. Actions speak louder than
words, and the BBC’s says that men and women are interchangeable.
Post by The Doctor
What purpose, then, does making the Doctor a woman serve? If the
answer is that “it proves that a woman can be the Doctor,”
that is an answer in terms of the real world. What is the answer to that
question in terms of Doctor Who? That’s the question to ask.
What will change with a female Doctor?
Post by The Doctor
One of the main differences between the current version of the show
and the original that aired from 1963 to 1989 is that there is, to coin
a phrase, a lot more hanky-panky in the TARDIS now than there used to
be. The Tenth Doctor, played by David Tennant, was something of a
romantic idol. His female companions pined after him. Matt
Smith’s Eleventh Doctor even became a husband, marrying a
character who in a plot twist was revealed to be the daughter of his
companions. With Capaldi, the oldest actor to play the part in several
decades, occupying the TARDIS, the program has been thankfully free of
soap-operatic elements.
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One can readily envision them returning with Whittaker, who is 35. The
relationship stuff was tedious when the Doctor was a man. Imagine how
rebarbative it will be after three years of everyone hitting on a female
Doctor, villains included. And worse yet, commenting on her looks and
questioning her intelligence, competence, authority, leadership, what
have you. Aha! you say, that’s exactly what happens to women in
the real world. Just so. But Doctor Who is not a university course
on sociology. It’s a television program. A single note played
endlessly can no longer be heard.
Post by The Doctor
It’s an interesting thought experiment, turning the Doctor into
a woman and seeing how people react to that. But a TV show isn’t
a thought experiment. One season of “Oh my God, Doctor, you have
breasts!” would be bad enough. Three seasons’ worth, the
average length of an actor’s time in the role, would be
intolerable. Viewers will get very tired very fast of being reminded
each episode that the Doctor has internal plumbing now.
Post by The Doctor
The temptation to remind them will be strong, especially if hostility
to Whittaker’s casting persists or even increases. When asked
in February about the possibility of a woman’s taking over the
role, Chibnall declared that he didn’t want the casting of the
new Doctor to be a gimmick. Yet in a statement accompanying the
announcement of Whittaker’s casting, he proclaimed that he
always wanted the 13th Doctor to be a woman.
Post by The Doctor
Either Chibnall is lying now or he was lying in February, because
casting a woman in the lead after it’s been played by men since
the program’s debut is the definition of a gimmick. It
can’t come across any other way. This puts Whittaker in an
untenable situation, since she is being asked to solve problems that are
beyond her ability and remit to fix.
Post by The Doctor
Doctor Who’s ratings are currently half of what they were at
the peak of the revival’s popularity at the start of the decade.
A common refrain is to attribute this decline to Capaldi’s age;
younger audiences, this argument runs, simply can’t relate to an
older Doctor. More likely, fans have realized that the show is out of
ideas and running on fumes.
Post by The Doctor
The series is ripping itself off more and more. This season was
especially egregious, with each episode containing numerous homages,
references, and allusions to earlier stories. The season finale was
especially notable in this regard. It was inevitable that
“new” Who would borrow elements from
“classic” Who. They are, after all, supposed to be the
same show. The problem lately is that new Whohas taken to rehashing
itself. Stories in this, its tenth season, bore strong resemblances to
ones that aired only a few years ago.
Post by The Doctor
The problems besetting Doctor Who are of a nature that cannot be
resolved by giving the Doctor a sex change. Repetitive plots, convoluted
story arcs, uninteresting villains — what ails the show
isn’t who plays the Doctor but unimaginative writing that more
and more each week rehashes and repackages earlier storylines. Doctor
Who has become one big metacommentary on itself. No wonder fans have
gotten bored and casual viewers have drifted away.
Post by The Doctor
How does Jodie Whittaker solve that? If you’re just going to do
the standard base-under-siege or monster-of-the-week scenario, but now
with double the X chromosomes, the metamorphosis is literally going to
be a cosmetic one. This would make casting a woman seem even more like a
gimmick born of desperation to boost ratings.
Post by The Doctor
The pressure on Whittaker to deliver will be immense. The pressure on
fans will be even greater. Which is why the most unforgivable
consequence of the BBC’s decision is the way it forever alters
fans’ relationship to Doctor Who.
Post by The Doctor
Every fan likes some Doctors (my favorite is the Fifth, played by
Peter Davison) more than others. Hitherto this has been a matter of
personal taste and aesthetics. No one suspects ulterior motives if a fan
doesn’t take a shine to William Hartnell’s First Doctor,
an obstreperous codger whose serials unfold at a leisurely, even turgid
pace in black-and-white without modern flourishes; or dislikes Jon
Pertwee’s Third Doctor, whose adventures often descend intoÂ
interminable environmental sermonizing.
Post by The Doctor
Will anyone be allowed to dislike the 13th Doctor for normal reasons?
I doubt it and strongly suspect anyone who demurs will reflexively be
accused of sexism. The imperative to defend Whittaker’s selection
and everything it stands for will simply be too strong to overcome. As
Hannah Long writes, “the casting insulate[s] the show from any
artistic criticism, because it elevates the enterprise from
entertainment to cause.”
Post by The Doctor
The producers have made it so that liking (or not) the new Doctor can
no longer be merely a matter of individual preference. It is, rather, an
obligation, a duty, an expression of one’s social and ideological
attitudes. Embracing her is a sign you’re a good citizen and
human being. To oppose her is to oppose progress and theÂ
emancipation of women. The BBC needn’t worry. Its viewers would
never do anything so vulgar. They’re too busy basking in the
good feelings to wonder why a TV show that is a half century old
suddenly must transform itself into a vehicle for proselytizing feminism
or why one person’s art should be conscripted into another
person’s cause.
Post by The Doctor
What happens if they start wondering? Who gets the blame if things go
wrong, if the 13th Doctor proves unlucky? Whittaker, for not being up to
the task of bearing the burden placed on her shoulders? Or will fans be
accused of being Luddites unwilling to accept the 21st century?
Post by The Doctor
A recurrent motif in “new” Who is that the Doctor is a
killer with the blood of countless beings on his hands. His quest for
redemption for having annihilated his own people to end a war that
threatened the universe is arguably the primary theme of the 2005
revival. The Doctor’s decision to wipe out his own people to end
the war and save creation was so awful, so cataclysmic, that future
Doctors disowned the incarnation that made it, denying him even the name
“Doctor.”
Post by The Doctor
It was a judgment imbued with a kind of divine fury and righteousness.
It was terrible. Yet it was just. In other words, exactly the sort of
decision we can envision a man making. Can we envision a woman making
it? Can there, that is, be a female War Doctor (as the Doctor who made
it is known)? And if there were, for which would she incur more
opprobrium — pushing the button, or not? Such is the trap the BBC
has now placed itself in. People will complain when a woman acts like
the Doctor — and when the Doctor acts like a woman.
Post by The Doctor
If the Doctor can’t be a woman, then Doctor Who with a
woman in the title role is no longer Doctor Who. With this change,
something essential, something ineffable, is being lost which, once
gone, will never be regained. The Cloister Bell is tolling. I fear it
won’t stop as long as the 13th Doctor is piloting the TARDIS.
Post by The Doctor
-- Varad Mehta is a historian who lives in suburban Philadelphia.
Well said! And now we've seen the choice of companions, the
soap-operatics, the silly Mork & Mindy costume, and the Game of
Thrones/Lord of the Ring's titles, and heard Whittaker's
incomprehensible accent, it's alienated just about everyone that wasn't
alienated already.
The backlash has already begun. Just look at the ratings and
condemnation of "Troy: Fall of a City", which has been called out for
it's cultural appropriation, offensive and racist casting, terrible
writing, and it's boring pacing and crass dialogue.
So no point watching Troy.

At least someone on Facebook pointed this article out.
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Agamemnon
2018-02-27 01:22:17 UTC
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-- Varad Mehta is a historian who lives in suburban Philadelphia.
Well said! And now we've seen the choice of companions, the
soap-operatics, the silly Mork & Mindy costume, and the Game of
Thrones/Lord of the Ring's titles, and heard Whittaker's
incomprehensible accent, it's alienated just about everyone that wasn't
alienated already.
The backlash has already begun. Just look at the ratings and
condemnation of "Troy: Fall of a City", which has been called out for
it's cultural appropriation, offensive and racist casting, terrible
writing, and it's boring pacing and crass dialogue.
So no point watching Troy.
At least someone on Facebook pointed this article out.
Everyone says it's terrible, even without considering the racist casting.
The Doctor
2018-02-27 01:27:42 UTC
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-- Varad Mehta is a historian who lives in suburban Philadelphia.
Well said! And now we've seen the choice of companions, the
soap-operatics, the silly Mork & Mindy costume, and the Game of
Thrones/Lord of the Ring's titles, and heard Whittaker's
incomprehensible accent, it's alienated just about everyone that wasn't
alienated already.
The backlash has already begun. Just look at the ratings and
condemnation of "Troy: Fall of a City", which has been called out for
it's cultural appropriation, offensive and racist casting, terrible
writing, and it's boring pacing and crass dialogue.
So no point watching Troy.
At least someone on Facebook pointed this article out.
Everyone says it's terrible, even without considering the racist casting.
Troy or Chibnall's Who?
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Agamemnon
2018-02-27 02:04:15 UTC
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-- Varad Mehta is a historian who lives in suburban Philadelphia.
Well said! And now we've seen the choice of companions, the
soap-operatics, the silly Mork & Mindy costume, and the Game of
Thrones/Lord of the Ring's titles, and heard Whittaker's
incomprehensible accent, it's alienated just about everyone that wasn't
alienated already.
The backlash has already begun. Just look at the ratings and
condemnation of "Troy: Fall of a City", which has been called out for
it's cultural appropriation, offensive and racist casting, terrible
writing, and it's boring pacing and crass dialogue.
So no point watching Troy.
At least someone on Facebook pointed this article out.
Everyone says it's terrible, even without considering the racist casting.
Troy or Chibnall's Who?
Troy
The Doctor
2018-02-27 02:39:42 UTC
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https://www.nationalreview.com/2017/07/doctor-who-jodie-whittaker-takes-over-role/
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-- Varad Mehta is a historian who lives in suburban Philadelphia.
Well said! And now we've seen the choice of companions, the
soap-operatics, the silly Mork & Mindy costume, and the Game of
Thrones/Lord of the Ring's titles, and heard Whittaker's
incomprehensible accent, it's alienated just about everyone that wasn't
alienated already.
The backlash has already begun. Just look at the ratings and
condemnation of "Troy: Fall of a City", which has been called out for
it's cultural appropriation, offensive and racist casting, terrible
writing, and it's boring pacing and crass dialogue.
So no point watching Troy.
At least someone on Facebook pointed this article out.
Everyone says it's terrible, even without considering the racist casting.
Troy or Chibnall's Who?
Troy
Good thing I did not know about this then.
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Daniel60
2018-02-27 10:13:57 UTC
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On #2 #3, The Doctor wrote:

Just for everyone's notice, the idiot had cross-posted his post to four
news groups WITHOUT TELLING ANYONE. Isn't that a breaching of an ISP's
terms and conditions or some such??

I have removed the cross-posts!
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The Doctor
2018-02-27 15:53:43 UTC
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Just for everyone's notice, the idiot had cross-posted his post to four
news groups WITHOUT TELLING ANYONE. Isn't that a breaching of an ISP's
terms and conditions or some such??
No.
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I have removed the cross-posts!
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Pudentame
2018-02-28 03:02:36 UTC
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On Tue, 27 Feb 2018 21:13:57 +1100, Daniel60
Post by Daniel60
Just for everyone's notice, the idiot had cross-posted his post to four
news groups WITHOUT TELLING ANYONE. Isn't that a breaching of an ISP's
terms and conditions or some such??
I have removed the cross-posts!
Most ISPs & news service don't consider cross-posting a problem unless
it's "EXCESSIVE", which is commonly defined as being posted to 5 or
more unrelated news groups (including batch postings to groups of 5).

If he's only posting to 4 groups, especially if they're somehow
related (like different TV Sci-Fi groups), he's not excessively
cross-posting.

Don't let your disdain for his nonsense lead you into becoming as big
an asshole as he is. Never posting anything other than baiting him is
just as lame as his ignorance.

In fact, just ignore him. Consign him to the bit bucket and post
something actually related to Doctor Who.
Idlehands
2018-02-28 04:01:08 UTC
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Just for everyone's notice, the idiot had cross-posted his post to four
news groups WITHOUT TELLING ANYONE. Isn't that a breaching of an ISP's
terms and conditions or some such??
I have removed the cross-posts!
From his own website.....
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NO NO's:

Making direct threats of any nature or harassing any person or institution.

Use of vulgar or inappropriate language.

Advertising or excessive cross posting in unrelated newsgroups.

https://www.nk.ca:8443/acceptableuse.phtml#.WpYoOOjwZPY
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