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Tube partially shut due to Kung Flu
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Basil Jet
2020-03-19 00:29:53 UTC
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Recliner
2020-03-19 01:02:40 UTC
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Post by Basil Jet
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-london-shops-could-close-and-transport-restricted-by-weekend-whitehall-sources-11959814
The Tube shutdowns could be much greater next week if the rumoured London
shutdown happens.
b***@nowhere.co.uk
2020-03-19 13:32:01 UTC
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On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 01:02:40 -0000 (UTC)
Post by Basil Jet
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-london-shops-could-close-and-transport-r
estricted-by-weekend-whitehall-sources-11959814
The Tube shutdowns could be much greater next week if the rumoured London
shutdown happens.
I'd love to know how they'd intend to inforce it. They haven't got enough
police to do deal with normal crime, never mind this. And putting the army
onto the streets of mainland UK would be the kiss of death for any government.
Not they have enough soldiers either frankly.
Graeme Wall
2020-03-19 13:53:20 UTC
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Post by b***@nowhere.co.uk
On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 01:02:40 -0000 (UTC)
Post by Basil Jet
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-london-shops-could-close-and-transport-r
estricted-by-weekend-whitehall-sources-11959814
The Tube shutdowns could be much greater next week if the rumoured London
shutdown happens.
I'd love to know how they'd intend to inforce it. They haven't got enough
police to do deal with normal crime, never mind this. And putting the army
onto the streets of mainland UK would be the kiss of death for any government.
Not they have enough soldiers either frankly.
I think this situation is going to be the kiss of death for this
government anyway, they are in a no-win situation whatever they do. The
one thing they have got going for them is the continuing stupidity of
the labour party which still doesn't have a leader or a coherent policy
on anything.
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Basil Jet
2020-03-19 14:07:58 UTC
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Post by Graeme Wall
I think this situation is going to be the kiss of death for this
government anyway,
As I stared at the empty shelves I thought "Thank God McDonnell didn't
become chancellor or we would have five years of this".
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abelard
2020-03-19 14:12:29 UTC
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Post by Basil Jet
Post by Graeme Wall
I think this situation is going to be the kiss of death for this
government anyway,
As I stared at the empty shelves I thought "Thank God McDonnell didn't
become chancellor or we would have five years of this".
more like forever
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Ophelia
2020-03-19 15:03:14 UTC
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Post by Basil Jet
Post by Graeme Wall
I think this situation is going to be the kiss of death for this
government anyway,
As I stared at the empty shelves I thought "Thank God McDonnell didn't
become chancellor or we would have five years of this".
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The Passions - 1982 - Africa Mine
Oh YES !!!!!
Recliner
2020-03-19 16:26:10 UTC
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Post by Basil Jet
Post by Graeme Wall
I think this situation is going to be the kiss of death for this
government anyway,
As I stared at the empty shelves I thought "Thank God McDonnell didn't
become chancellor or we would have five years of this".
I wish I'd thought of that when I was queuing to get into Tesco this
morning, and when I was confronted by the empty shelves and closed
counters, and then in the long queue to check out, made even slower by the
cashier having to explain to many customers that they were limited to ≤3 of
all items. There would then be time-wasting arguments when people said they
were shopping for both themselves and others, so they should be entitled to
double the ration.
b***@nowhere.co.uk
2020-03-19 14:21:43 UTC
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On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 13:53:20 +0000
Post by Basil Jet
Post by b***@nowhere.co.uk
On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 01:02:40 -0000 (UTC)
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-london-shops-could-close-and-transport-r
Post by b***@nowhere.co.uk
Post by Basil Jet
estricted-by-weekend-whitehall-sources-11959814
The Tube shutdowns could be much greater next week if the rumoured London
shutdown happens.
I'd love to know how they'd intend to inforce it. They haven't got enough
police to do deal with normal crime, never mind this. And putting the army
onto the streets of mainland UK would be the kiss of death for any
government.
Post by b***@nowhere.co.uk
Not they have enough soldiers either frankly.
I think this situation is going to be the kiss of death for this
government anyway, they are in a no-win situation whatever they do. The
True, but the hysterical over reaction - though at least not as bad as the
ever excitable latins across the channel - is probably going to dump the world
into a global depression which could end up costing many more deaths in the
long run than this virus.
Post by Basil Jet
one thing they have got going for them is the continuing stupidity of
the labour party which still doesn't have a leader or a coherent policy
on anything.
Until normal people start joining again and voting for sensible leaders
Labour will remain a protest party for middle class Marxists and agitators.
abelard
2020-03-19 14:25:12 UTC
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Post by b***@nowhere.co.uk
On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 13:53:20 +0000
Post by Basil Jet
Post by b***@nowhere.co.uk
On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 01:02:40 -0000 (UTC)
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-london-shops-could-close-and-transport-r
Post by b***@nowhere.co.uk
Post by Basil Jet
estricted-by-weekend-whitehall-sources-11959814
The Tube shutdowns could be much greater next week if the rumoured London
shutdown happens.
I'd love to know how they'd intend to inforce it. They haven't got enough
police to do deal with normal crime, never mind this. And putting the army
onto the streets of mainland UK would be the kiss of death for any
government.
Post by b***@nowhere.co.uk
Not they have enough soldiers either frankly.
I think this situation is going to be the kiss of death for this
government anyway, they are in a no-win situation whatever they do. The
True, but the hysterical over reaction - though at least not as bad as the
ever excitable latins across the channel - is probably going to dump the world
into a global depression which could end up costing many more deaths in the
long run than this virus.
but will it how that they really really care?
Post by b***@nowhere.co.uk
Post by Basil Jet
one thing they have got going for them is the continuing stupidity of
the labour party which still doesn't have a leader or a coherent policy
on anything.
Until normal people start joining again
comedian!
Post by b***@nowhere.co.uk
and voting for sensible leaders
Labour will remain a protest party for middle class Marxists and agitators.
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m***@round-midnight.org.uk
2020-03-19 15:45:21 UTC
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Post by Graeme Wall
Post by b***@nowhere.co.uk
On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 01:02:40 -0000 (UTC)
Post by Basil Jet
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-london-shops-could-close-and-transport-r
estricted-by-weekend-whitehall-sources-11959814
The Tube shutdowns could be much greater next week if the rumoured London
shutdown happens.
I'd love to know how they'd intend to inforce it. They haven't got enough
police to do deal with normal crime, never mind this. And putting the army
onto the streets of mainland UK would be the kiss of death for any government.
Not they have enough soldiers either frankly.
I think this situation is going to be the kiss of death for this
government anyway, they are in a no-win situation whatever they do. The
one thing they have got going for them is the continuing stupidity of
the labour party which still doesn't have a leader or a coherent policy
on anything.
I agree with that.

My other point is we should be calling it by it's proper name.
Robin
2020-03-19 16:12:14 UTC
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On 19/03/2020 13:53, Graeme Wall wrote:
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Post by Graeme Wall
I think this situation is going to be the kiss of death for this
government anyway, they are in a no-win situation whatever they do. The
one thing they have got going for them is the continuing stupidity of
the labour party which still doesn't have a leader or a coherent policy
on anything.
I think they might just about survive if France and Germany suffer in
terms of deaths and economic damage very much more than the UK, and that
seems an extremely remote possibility (I am of course glad to say).
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Robin
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Recliner
2020-03-19 16:29:33 UTC
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Post by Graeme Wall
Post by b***@nowhere.co.uk
On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 01:02:40 -0000 (UTC)
Post by Basil Jet
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-london-shops-could-close-and-transport-r
estricted-by-weekend-whitehall-sources-11959814
The Tube shutdowns could be much greater next week if the rumoured London
shutdown happens.
I'd love to know how they'd intend to inforce it. They haven't got enough
police to do deal with normal crime, never mind this. And putting the army
onto the streets of mainland UK would be the kiss of death for any government.
Not they have enough soldiers either frankly.
I think this situation is going to be the kiss of death for this
government anyway, they are in a no-win situation whatever they do. The
one thing they have got going for them is the continuing stupidity of
the labour party which still doesn't have a leader or a coherent policy
on anything.
Actually, I think the UK government is handling it fairly well, no worse
than other European countries, and much better than the US. The
government's decisions are being made with the best available scientific
advice, and they're not afraid to change course when the advice changes.
Graeme Wall
2020-03-19 17:02:37 UTC
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Post by Recliner
Post by Graeme Wall
Post by b***@nowhere.co.uk
On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 01:02:40 -0000 (UTC)
Post by Basil Jet
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-london-shops-could-close-and-transport-r
estricted-by-weekend-whitehall-sources-11959814
The Tube shutdowns could be much greater next week if the rumoured London
shutdown happens.
I'd love to know how they'd intend to inforce it. They haven't got enough
police to do deal with normal crime, never mind this. And putting the army
onto the streets of mainland UK would be the kiss of death for any government.
Not they have enough soldiers either frankly.
I think this situation is going to be the kiss of death for this
government anyway, they are in a no-win situation whatever they do. The
one thing they have got going for them is the continuing stupidity of
the labour party which still doesn't have a leader or a coherent policy
on anything.
Actually, I think the UK government is handling it fairly well, no worse
than other European countries, and much better than the US. The
government's decisions are being made with the best available scientific
advice, and they're not afraid to change course when the advice changes.
While possibly true that isn't going to help them when things get really
bad.
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Recliner
2020-03-19 17:12:16 UTC
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Post by Graeme Wall
Post by Recliner
Post by Graeme Wall
Post by b***@nowhere.co.uk
On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 01:02:40 -0000 (UTC)
Post by Basil Jet
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-london-shops-could-close-and-transport-r
estricted-by-weekend-whitehall-sources-11959814
The Tube shutdowns could be much greater next week if the rumoured London
shutdown happens.
I'd love to know how they'd intend to inforce it. They haven't got enough
police to do deal with normal crime, never mind this. And putting the army
onto the streets of mainland UK would be the kiss of death for any government.
Not they have enough soldiers either frankly.
I think this situation is going to be the kiss of death for this
government anyway, they are in a no-win situation whatever they do. The
one thing they have got going for them is the continuing stupidity of
the labour party which still doesn't have a leader or a coherent policy
on anything.
Actually, I think the UK government is handling it fairly well, no worse
than other European countries, and much better than the US. The
government's decisions are being made with the best available scientific
advice, and they're not afraid to change course when the advice changes.
While possibly true that isn't going to help them when things get really
bad.
Remember, other European countries like Italy are a week or two ahead of us
on the curve, so any bad news here will have been preceded by similar bad
news elsewhere a week or two earlier. And the US will have much bigger
numbers of seriously ill and dead than us. Italy and Spain also have
unstable governments, unlike the UK. So we'll probably seem better off than
others.
Keema's Nan
2020-03-19 17:18:55 UTC
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Post by Graeme Wall
Post by Recliner
Post by Graeme Wall
Post by b***@nowhere.co.uk
On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 01:02:40 -0000 (UTC)
Post by Basil Jet
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-london-shops-could-close-and-tran
sport-r
estricted-by-weekend-whitehall-sources-11959814
The Tube shutdowns could be much greater next week if the rumoured
London
shutdown happens.
I'd love to know how they'd intend to inforce it. They haven't got enough
police to do deal with normal crime, never mind this. And putting the army
onto the streets of mainland UK would be the kiss of death for any
government.
Not they have enough soldiers either frankly.
I think this situation is going to be the kiss of death for this
government anyway, they are in a no-win situation whatever they do. The
one thing they have got going for them is the continuing stupidity of
the labour party which still doesn't have a leader or a coherent policy
on anything.
Actually, I think the UK government is handling it fairly well, no worse
than other European countries, and much better than the US. The
government's decisions are being made with the best available scientific
advice, and they're not afraid to change course when the advice changes.
While possibly true that isn't going to help them when things get really
bad.
Remember, other European countries like Italy are a week or two ahead of us
on the curve, so any bad news here will have been preceded by similar bad
news elsewhere a week or two earlier. And the US will have much bigger
numbers of seriously ill and dead
Yes but most of the population there are brain dead already, so how would you
know if they had been affected by a virus?
Post by Recliner
than us. Italy and Spain also have
unstable governments, unlike the UK. So we'll probably seem better off than
others.
abelard
2020-03-19 18:19:51 UTC
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On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 17:12:16 -0000 (UTC), Recliner
Post by Recliner
Post by Graeme Wall
Post by Recliner
Post by Graeme Wall
Post by b***@nowhere.co.uk
On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 01:02:40 -0000 (UTC)
Post by Basil Jet
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-london-shops-could-close-and-transport-r
estricted-by-weekend-whitehall-sources-11959814
The Tube shutdowns could be much greater next week if the rumoured London
shutdown happens.
I'd love to know how they'd intend to inforce it. They haven't got enough
police to do deal with normal crime, never mind this. And putting the army
onto the streets of mainland UK would be the kiss of death for any government.
Not they have enough soldiers either frankly.
I think this situation is going to be the kiss of death for this
government anyway, they are in a no-win situation whatever they do. The
one thing they have got going for them is the continuing stupidity of
the labour party which still doesn't have a leader or a coherent policy
on anything.
Actually, I think the UK government is handling it fairly well, no worse
than other European countries, and much better than the US. The
government's decisions are being made with the best available scientific
advice, and they're not afraid to change course when the advice changes.
While possibly true that isn't going to help them when things get really
bad.
Remember, other European countries like Italy are a week or two ahead of us
on the curve, so any bad news here will have been preceded by similar bad
news elsewhere a week or two earlier. And the US will have much bigger
numbers of seriously ill and dead than us. Italy and Spain also have
unstable governments, unlike the UK. So we'll probably seem better off than
others.
how seriously dead will they be?
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Arthur Conan Doyle
2020-03-19 20:17:44 UTC
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Post by abelard
how seriously dead will they be?
There's a big difference between mostly dead and all dead. Mostly dead is
slightly alive. With all dead, well, with all dead there's usually only one
thing you can do.
Anna Noyd-Dryver
2020-03-19 21:27:09 UTC
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Post by Arthur Conan Doyle
Post by abelard
how seriously dead will they be?
There's a big difference between mostly dead and all dead. Mostly dead is
slightly alive. With all dead, well, with all dead there's usually only one
thing you can do.



Anna Noyd-Dryver
Christopher A. Lee
2020-03-19 21:28:51 UTC
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On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 15:17:44 -0500, Arthur Conan Doyle
Post by Arthur Conan Doyle
Post by abelard
how seriously dead will they be?
There's a big difference between mostly dead and all dead. Mostly dead is
slightly alive. With all dead, well, with all dead there's usually only one
thing you can do.
Any cannibals or necrophiliacs here?
Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells
2020-03-19 22:12:37 UTC
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On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 16:28:51 -0500, Christopher A. Lee
Post by Christopher A. Lee
On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 15:17:44 -0500, Arthur Conan Doyle
Post by Arthur Conan Doyle
Post by abelard
how seriously dead will they be?
There's a big difference between mostly dead and all dead. Mostly dead is
slightly alive. With all dead, well, with all dead there's usually only one
thing you can do.
Any cannibals or necrophiliacs here?
How soon before we hear the cries of "Bring out your dead"?
I haven't heard that since the Black Death!
abelard
2020-03-19 22:03:47 UTC
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On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 15:17:44 -0500, Arthur Conan Doyle
Post by Arthur Conan Doyle
Post by abelard
how seriously dead will they be?
There's a big difference between mostly dead and all dead. Mostly dead is
slightly alive. With all dead, well, with all dead there's usually only one
thing you can do.
bury your mistakes
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Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells
2020-03-19 22:13:51 UTC
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Post by Christopher A. Lee
On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 15:17:44 -0500, Arthur Conan Doyle
Post by Arthur Conan Doyle
Post by abelard
how seriously dead will they be?
There's a big difference between mostly dead and all dead. Mostly dead is
slightly alive. With all dead, well, with all dead there's usually only one
thing you can do.
bury your mistakes
The medical industry's slogan.
b***@nowhere.co.uk
2020-03-20 10:38:44 UTC
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On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 16:29:33 -0000 (UTC)
Post by Recliner
Post by Graeme Wall
I think this situation is going to be the kiss of death for this
government anyway, they are in a no-win situation whatever they do. The
one thing they have got going for them is the continuing stupidity of
the labour party which still doesn't have a leader or a coherent policy
on anything.
Actually, I think the UK government is handling it fairly well, no worse
than other European countries, and much better than the US. The
government's decisions are being made with the best available scientific
advice, and they're not afraid to change course when the advice changes.
The scientific advice is merely a detached objective view of how to best
contain the spread of a disease. It is not taking the short or long term
economic or social consequencies into account.
Sam Wilson
2020-03-20 10:46:56 UTC
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Post by b***@nowhere.co.uk
On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 16:29:33 -0000 (UTC)
Post by Recliner
Actually, I think the UK government is handling it fairly well, no worse
than other European countries, and much better than the US. The
government's decisions are being made with the best available scientific
advice, and they're not afraid to change course when the advice changes.
The scientific advice is merely a detached objective view of how to best
contain the spread of a disease. It is not taking the short or long term
economic or social consequencies into account.


Sam
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b***@nowhere.co.uk
2020-03-20 11:05:37 UTC
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On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 10:46:56 -0000 (UTC)
Post by Sam Wilson
Post by b***@nowhere.co.uk
On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 16:29:33 -0000 (UTC)
Post by Recliner
Actually, I think the UK government is handling it fairly well, no worse
than other European countries, and much better than the US. The
government's decisions are being made with the best available scientific
advice, and they're not afraid to change course when the advice changes.
The scientific advice is merely a detached objective view of how to best
contain the spread of a disease. It is not taking the short or long term
economic or social consequencies into account.
http://youtu.be/hiKuxfcSrEU
Hilarious. Want to see what happens when the economy collapses?




But yeah, thats far better than dealing with some ill elderly people who may
die a year or 2 earlier that they would have done otherwise.

And if you think I'm scaremongering look how fast the riots in london took off
a few years ago.
Rolf Mantel
2020-03-20 12:07:51 UTC
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Post by b***@nowhere.co.uk
On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 10:46:56 -0000 (UTC)
Post by Sam Wilson
Post by b***@nowhere.co.uk
On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 16:29:33 -0000 (UTC)
Post by Recliner
Actually, I think the UK government is handling it fairly well, no worse
than other European countries, and much better than the US. The
government's decisions are being made with the best available scientific
advice, and they're not afraid to change course when the advice changes.
The scientific advice is merely a detached objective view of how to best
contain the spread of a disease. It is not taking the short or long term
economic or social consequencies into account.
http://youtu.be/hiKuxfcSrEU
Hilarious. Want to see what happens when the economy collapses?
[Venezuela Food Riots]
A massive turn-down of the economy is significantly less than a collapse
of the economy. Bexiteers accepted a massive turn-down of the economy,
claiming that there will be sufficient food to prevent riots.
Now, European countries accept a massive turn-down of the economy
claiming there will be sufficient food. What's the difference?
Post by b***@nowhere.co.uk
But yeah, thats far better than dealing with some ill elderly people who may
die a year or 2 earlier that they would have done otherwise.
Loom at Milan, it's not "elderly people dying one or two years earlier",
i's middle-aged people dying partly due to a complete break-down of the
medical infrastrcture.

Additionally, if 30% of the workforce go on sick leave at the same time
for two weeks, the economy will turn down quite a bit as well (and this
might casue food shortages and riots), if people important for the
infrastructure go on sick leave in a staggered way, the chance of
keeping basic services running is a lot higher.
b***@nowhere.co.uk
2020-03-20 16:31:20 UTC
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On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 13:07:51 +0100
Post by Rolf Mantel
Post by b***@nowhere.co.uk
On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 10:46:56 -0000 (UTC)
Post by Sam Wilson
Post by b***@nowhere.co.uk
On Thu, 19 Mar 2020 16:29:33 -0000 (UTC)
Post by Recliner
Actually, I think the UK government is handling it fairly well, no worse
than other European countries, and much better than the US. The
government's decisions are being made with the best available scientific
advice, and they're not afraid to change course when the advice changes.
The scientific advice is merely a detached objective view of how to best
contain the spread of a disease. It is not taking the short or long term
economic or social consequencies into account.
http://youtu.be/hiKuxfcSrEU
Hilarious. Want to see what happens when the economy collapses?
[Venezuela Food Riots]
A massive turn-down of the economy is significantly less than a collapse
of the economy. Bexiteers accepted a massive turn-down of the economy,
They did? Thats news to me.
Post by Rolf Mantel
claiming that there will be sufficient food to prevent riots.
Now, European countries accept a massive turn-down of the economy
claiming there will be sufficient food. What's the difference?
Food doesn't magically appear out of nowhere even if not imported. Someone has
to farm it, someone has to deliver it, there has to be supermarket staff to
unload it and stock the shelves, do the tills, there has to be a factory making
fertilizer for the farmers etc etc etc. If even 1 of those parts goes tits up
the lot goes tits up.
Post by Rolf Mantel
Post by b***@nowhere.co.uk
But yeah, thats far better than dealing with some ill elderly people who may
die a year or 2 earlier that they would have done otherwise.
Loom at Milan, it's not "elderly people dying one or two years earlier",
i's middle-aged people dying partly due to a complete break-down of the
medical infrastrcture.
Bollocks. Now whose scaremongering?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-18/99-of-those-who-died-from-vir
us-had-other-illness-italy-says
Post by Rolf Mantel
Additionally, if 30% of the workforce go on sick leave at the same time
They won't , 80% have very mild or no symptoms which means they can stay at
work or at least work from home.
Post by Rolf Mantel
for two weeks, the economy will turn down quite a bit as well (and this
might casue food shortages and riots), if people important for the
infrastructure go on sick leave in a staggered way, the chance of
keeping basic services running is a lot higher.
Except everyone who can't work from home (which is probably most people) is
effectively on sick leave anyway now.
MissRiaElaine
2020-03-20 16:39:32 UTC
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They won't , 80% have very mild or no symptoms which means they can stay at
work or at least work from home.
I used to be a bus driver. Not exactly the easiest job to do from home.
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b***@nowhere.co.uk
2020-03-20 16:58:39 UTC
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On Fri, 20 Mar 2020 16:39:32 +0000
Post by MissRiaElaine
Post by b***@nowhere.co.uk
They won't , 80% have very mild or no symptoms which means they can stay at
work or at least work from home.
I used to be a bus driver. Not exactly the easiest job to do from home.
Yes, I did point out that most people can't work from home but given most
people won't get particularly ill if at all then its not a problem. I've gone
into work feeling half dead plenty of times because frankly its nicer being
with office colleagues than spending a few days staring at 4 walls watching
cash in the attic.
m***@round-midnight.org.uk
2020-03-20 17:05:53 UTC
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Post by MissRiaElaine
Post by b***@nowhere.co.uk
They won't , 80% have very mild or no symptoms which means they can stay at
work or at least work from home.
I used to be a bus driver. Not exactly the easiest job to do from home.
If you can fly drones from land you can drive buses from home.
MissRiaElaine
2020-03-20 17:09:01 UTC
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Post by MissRiaElaine
Post by b***@nowhere.co.uk
They won't , 80% have very mild or no symptoms which means they can stay at
work or at least work from home.
I used to be a bus driver. Not exactly the easiest job to do from home.
If you can fly drones from land you can drive buses from home.
That fills my mind with absolute dread at the mere thought of it, I do
hope you weren't serious, or my recently eaten tea will be all over the
floor, and I really don't feel in the mood for cleaning right now..!
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m***@round-midnight.org.uk
2020-03-20 17:18:19 UTC
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They won't , 80% have very mild or no symptoms which means they can stay at
work or at least work from home.
I used to be a bus driver. Not exactly the easiest job to do from home.
If you can fly drones from land you can drive buses from home.
That fills my mind with absolute dread at the mere thought of it, I do
hope you weren't serious, or my recently eaten tea will be all over the
floor, and I really don't feel in the mood for cleaning right now..!
My point is that it is technically possible. However the sheer cost of
the equipment and providing the data bandwidth necessary will be
prohibitive.
MissRiaElaine
2020-03-20 17:34:21 UTC
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They won't , 80% have very mild or no symptoms which means they can stay at
work or at least work from home.
I used to be a bus driver. Not exactly the easiest job to do from home.
If you can fly drones from land you can drive buses from home.
That fills my mind with absolute dread at the mere thought of it, I do
hope you weren't serious, or my recently eaten tea will be all over
the floor, and I really don't feel in the mood for cleaning right now..!
My point is that it is technically possible.  However the sheer cost of
the equipment and providing the data bandwidth necessary will be
prohibitive.
Cheaper to employ drivers and pay 'em peanuts...
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Sam Wilson
2020-03-20 18:32:16 UTC
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If you can fly drones from land you can drive buses from home.
That fills my mind with absolute dread at the mere thought of it, I do
hope you weren't serious, or my recently eaten tea will be all over the
floor, and I really don't feel in the mood for cleaning right now..!
My point is that it is technically possible. However the sheer cost of
the equipment and providing the data bandwidth necessary will be
prohibitive.
<tempting-fate>
I’m sure you could do it with 5G...
</tempting-fate>

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MissRiaElaine
2020-03-20 19:07:43 UTC
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<tempting-fate>
I’m sure you could do it with 5G...
</tempting-fate>
Possibly, although I don't think many drivers have room in their houses
for the full aircraft-style simulator cockpit you'd need; you couldn't
do it with a laptop screen and a joystick, too difficult to get all
round vision. With some of the cabs I've been in, it's hard enough when
you're actually sitting there..!
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Recliner
2020-03-20 21:53:08 UTC
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Post by m***@round-midnight.org.uk
If you can fly drones from land you can drive buses from home.
That fills my mind with absolute dread at the mere thought of it, I do
hope you weren't serious, or my recently eaten tea will be all over the
floor, and I really don't feel in the mood for cleaning right now..!
My point is that it is technically possible. However the sheer cost of
the equipment and providing the data bandwidth necessary will be
prohibitive.
<tempting-fate>
I’m sure you could do it with 5G...
</tempting-fate>
<Chortle>
m***@round-midnight.org.uk
2020-03-20 23:17:34 UTC
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If you can fly drones from land you can drive buses from home.
That fills my mind with absolute dread at the mere thought of it, I do
hope you weren't serious, or my recently eaten tea will be all over the
floor, and I really don't feel in the mood for cleaning right now..!
My point is that it is technically possible. However the sheer cost of
the equipment and providing the data bandwidth necessary will be
prohibitive.
<tempting-fate>
I’m sure you could do it with 5G...
</tempting-fate>
<Chortle>
You might be able to do it with one bus per cell site. So the timetable
would have to be around this restriction and you'd need to arrange an
electronic token system to prevent more than one bus in a cell.

There you go I've got it half way back to railways.
Recliner
2020-03-20 23:43:24 UTC
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Post by m***@round-midnight.org.uk
If you can fly drones from land you can drive buses from home.
That fills my mind with absolute dread at the mere thought of it, I do
hope you weren't serious, or my recently eaten tea will be all over the
floor, and I really don't feel in the mood for cleaning right now..!
My point is that it is technically possible. However the sheer cost of
the equipment and providing the data bandwidth necessary will be
prohibitive.
<tempting-fate>
I’m sure you could do it with 5G...
</tempting-fate>
<Chortle>
You might be able to do it with one bus per cell site. So the timetable
would have to be around this restriction and you'd need to arrange an
electronic token system to prevent more than one bus in a cell.
There you go I've got it half way back to railways.
<whoosh>
b***@nowhere.co.uk
2020-03-21 10:57:40 UTC
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They won't , 80% have very mild or no symptoms which means they can stay at
work or at least work from home.
I used to be a bus driver. Not exactly the easiest job to do from home.
If you can fly drones from land you can drive buses from home.
That fills my mind with absolute dread at the mere thought of it, I do
hope you weren't serious, or my recently eaten tea will be all over the
floor, and I really don't feel in the mood for cleaning right now..!
My point is that it is technically possible. However the sheer cost of
Its not technically possible to avoid all interference and once a signal is
lost the bus would have to slam on its emergency brakes which isn't ideal when
many people would be standing. Its an utterly stupid idea. Even self driving
buses would make more sense.

Keema's Nan
2020-03-20 17:29:08 UTC
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They won't , 80% have very mild or no symptoms which means they can stay at
work or at least work from home.
I used to be a bus driver. Not exactly the easiest job to do from home.
If you can fly drones from land you can drive buses from home.
That fills my mind with absolute dread at the mere thought of it, I do
hope you weren't serious, or my recently eaten tea will be all over the
floor, and I really don't feel in the mood for cleaning right now..!
The look on the passengers’ faces would be a picture, as the remote driven
vehicle pulled up at the bus stop with no apparent driver.
m***@round-midnight.org.uk
2020-03-20 17:33:48 UTC
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They won't , 80% have very mild or no symptoms which means they can stay at
work or at least work from home.
I used to be a bus driver. Not exactly the easiest job to do from home.
If you can fly drones from land you can drive buses from home.
That fills my mind with absolute dread at the mere thought of it, I do
hope you weren't serious, or my recently eaten tea will be all over the
floor, and I really don't feel in the mood for cleaning right now..!
The look on the passengers’ faces would be a picture, as the remote driven
vehicle pulled up at the bus stop with no apparent driver.
I never thought of that. Sounds fun! ROFL
MissRiaElaine
2020-03-20 17:38:35 UTC
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They won't , 80% have very mild or no symptoms which means they can stay at
work or at least work from home.
I used to be a bus driver. Not exactly the easiest job to do from home.
If you can fly drones from land you can drive buses from home.
That fills my mind with absolute dread at the mere thought of it, I do
hope you weren't serious, or my recently eaten tea will be all over the
floor, and I really don't feel in the mood for cleaning right now..!
The look on the passengers’ faces would be a picture, as the remote driven
vehicle pulled up at the bus stop with no apparent driver.
I never thought of that.  Sounds fun! ROFL
Getting them to pay their fare would be even more of a challenge, given
the attitude that most of the scrotes we carried had.

Although seriously, I seem to recall that this has actually been tried
somewhere, I remember seeing a news report on it, but I can't for the
life of me remember where it was.
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Keema's Nan
2020-03-20 17:49:46 UTC
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They won't , 80% have very mild or no symptoms which means they can
stay at
work or at least work from home.
I used to be a bus driver. Not exactly the easiest job to do from home.
If you can fly drones from land you can drive buses from home.
That fills my mind with absolute dread at the mere thought of it, I do
hope you weren't serious, or my recently eaten tea will be all over the
floor, and I really don't feel in the mood for cleaning right now..!
The look on the passengers’ faces would be a picture, as the remote driven
vehicle pulled up at the bus stop with no apparent driver.
I never thought of that. Sounds fun! ROFL
Getting them to pay their fare would be even more of a challenge, given
the attitude that most of the scrotes we carried had.
They would have to fit the bus with a rail station style entrance which is
activated by a card of some description, although it might slow down boarding
somewhat.
Post by MissRiaElaine
Although seriously, I seem to recall that this has actually been tried
somewhere, I remember seeing a news report on it, but I can't for the
life of me remember where it was.
MissRiaElaine
2020-03-20 17:54:09 UTC
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Getting them to pay their fare would be even more of a challenge, given
the attitude that most of the scrotes we carried had.
They would have to fit the bus with a rail station style entrance which is
activated by a card of some description, although it might slow down boarding
somewhat.
With no actual staff present to stop them, they'd just leap over the
gate, or get on by the exit door if there is one. Also how would
disabled passengers board with no staff to assist..?
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Keema's Nan
2020-03-20 18:06:24 UTC
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Getting them to pay their fare would be even more of a challenge, given
the attitude that most of the scrotes we carried had.
They would have to fit the bus with a rail station style entrance which is
activated by a card of some description, although it might slow down boarding
somewhat.
With no actual staff present to stop them, they'd just leap over the
gate, or get on by the exit door if there is one. Also how would
disabled passengers board with no staff to assist..?
Hmmmm.... it seems I have not thought this through.
John Levine
2020-03-20 23:28:20 UTC
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They won't , 80% have very mild or no symptoms which means they can stay at
work or at least work from home.
I used to be a bus driver. Not exactly the easiest job to do from home.
If you can fly drones from land you can drive buses from home.
I suspect that the alterations to provide a sealed driver's
compartment would be considerable cheaper and easier than fitting a
bus with remote controls.
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MissRiaElaine
2020-03-21 01:03:36 UTC
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They won't , 80% have very mild or no symptoms which means they can stay at
work or at least work from home.
I used to be a bus driver. Not exactly the easiest job to do from home.
If you can fly drones from land you can drive buses from home.
I suspect that the alterations to provide a sealed driver's
compartment would be considerable cheaper and easier than fitting a
bus with remote controls.
Volvo Ailsa.
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Ria in Aberdeen

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Sam Wilson
2020-03-20 14:51:28 UTC
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Post by Recliner
Actually, I think the UK government is handling it fairly well, no worse
than other European countries, and much better than the US. The
government's decisions are being made with the best available scientific
advice, and they're not afraid to change course when the advice changes.
The scientific advice is merely a detached objective view of how to best
contain the spread of a disease. It is not taking the short or long term
economic or social consequencies into account.
http://youtu.be/hiKuxfcSrEU
Hilarious. Want to see what happens when the economy collapses?
http://youtu.be/2XsxD1Y7knI
http://youtu.be/GovzMEgESKA
But yeah, thats far better than dealing with some ill elderly people who may
die a year or 2 earlier that they would have done otherwise.
And if you think I'm scaremongering look how fast the riots in london took off
a few years ago.
I don’t think you’re scaremongering, I think you’re missing the point -
it’s not going to be “what if old people die, I’m alright, Jack”; if we get
the science wrong then the economy tanks just the same as if getting the
science right but ignoring the economy does. Signs are that the government
hasn’t really got it, or doesn’t care.

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