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Youri Egerov
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Lawrence Chalmers
2018-06-07 16:41:02 UTC
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Just finished a 7cd collection on Warner/EMI and was astounded by his
performances especially Debussy Preludes 1 & 2, Estampes and my introduction
to Schumann solo piano music. Wow is all I can say. I was dazzled. Made me want to re-evaluate his Symphonies and concertos, which failed to interest me
a while ago.
Herman
2018-06-07 16:49:39 UTC
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Post by Lawrence Chalmers
Just finished a 7cd collection on Warner/EMI and was astounded by his
performances especially Debussy Preludes 1 & 2, Estampes and my introduction
to Schumann solo piano music. Wow is all I can say. I was dazzled. Made me want to re-evaluate his Symphonies and concertos, which failed to interest me
a while ago.
He's called Egorov with an O in the middle.
Bozo
2018-06-07 17:53:15 UTC
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.... and my introduction
to Schumann solo piano music. Wow is all I can say....
In addition to the solo piano Schumann selections on the Egorov set , would respectfully suggest next hearing Schumann's Fantasiestucke , Davidsbuntlertanze, and Op.17 Fantasy.
h***@btinternet.com
2018-06-07 19:00:48 UTC
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.... and my introduction
to Schumann solo piano music. Wow is all I can say....
In addition to the solo piano Schumann selections on the Egorov set , would respectfully suggest next hearing Schumann's Fantasiestucke , Davidsbuntlertanze, and Op.17 Fantasy.
Where is the DBT
h***@btinternet.com
2018-06-07 19:02:16 UTC
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Post by Bozo
.... and my introduction
to Schumann solo piano music. Wow is all I can say....
In addition to the solo piano Schumann selections on the Egorov set , would respectfully suggest next hearing Schumann's Fantasiestucke , Davidsbuntlertanze, and Op.17 Fantasy.
Where is the DBT
Oh sorry, I understand now, you're not suggesting DBT by Youri Egorov!
Bozo
2018-06-07 23:23:36 UTC
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Oh sorry, I understand now, you're not suggesting DBT by Youri Egorov!
Sorry, I was not clear. Yes, I was suggesting Mr.Chalmers also hear the other 3 solo piano works I mentioned, whether by Egorov or others.
Ricardo Jimenez
2018-06-07 20:28:27 UTC
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On Thu, 7 Jun 2018 09:41:02 -0700 (PDT), Lawrence Chalmers
Post by Lawrence Chalmers
Just finished a 7cd collection on Warner/EMI and was astounded by his
performances especially Debussy Preludes 1 & 2, Estampes and my introduction
to Schumann solo piano music. Wow is all I can say. I was dazzled. Made me want to re-evaluate his Symphonies and concertos, which failed to interest me
a while ago.
Symphonies?
Lawrence Chalmers
2018-06-07 21:46:45 UTC
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Post by Lawrence Chalmers
Just finished a 7cd collection on Warner/EMI and was astounded by his
performances especially Debussy Preludes 1 & 2, Estampes and my introduction
to Schumann solo piano music. Wow is all I can say. I was dazzled. Made me want to re-evaluate his Symphonies and concertos, which failed to interest me
a while ago.
Err....Pardon my typo. But I am not blushing!
m***@cloud9.net
2018-06-08 00:01:21 UTC
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Post by Lawrence Chalmers
Just finished a 7cd collection on Warner/EMI and was astounded by his
performances especially Debussy Preludes 1 & 2, Estampes and my introduction
to Schumann solo piano music. Wow is all I can say. I was dazzled. Made me want to re-evaluate his Symphonies and concertos, which failed to interest me
a while ago.
Hi,

I have most of his official and private CDs, and a wonderful Dutch DVD about him. I attended 2 of his N.Y.C. concerts and recorded them from the audience, and then chatted with him. The early commercial EMI stereo discs did not do justice to his beautiful warm singing piano tone.

As per the Dutch DVD, as he lay dying of AIDS in Amsterdam, the Russian government refused to allow his mother to leave Russia to visit him. They did let her go AFTER his funeral. There is a poignant scene in the DVD where she pets his piano and says that this was the piano of her beloved son. She met his life partner and then realized that Youri was gay,and she knew then why he never returned to Russia, where he would probably have been put into prison.

It was indeed a sad story, but my memory of seeing him twice in good spirits and playing like an angel serves to cheer me up somewhat.

Mort Linder
Neil
2018-06-08 06:55:54 UTC
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I have most of his official and private CDs, and a wonderful Dutch DVD about him. I attended 2 of his N.Y.C. concerts and recorded them from the audience, and then chatted with him. The early commercial EMI stereo discs did not do justice to his beautiful warm singing piano tone.
As per the Dutch DVD, as he lay dying of AIDS in Amsterdam, the Russian government refused to allow his mother to leave Russia to visit him. They did let her go AFTER his funeral. There is a poignant scene in the DVD where she pets his piano and says that this was the piano of her beloved son. She met his life partner and then realized that Youri was gay,and she knew then why he never returned to Russia, where he would probably have been put into prison.
It was indeed a sad story, but my memory of seeing him twice in good spirits and playing like an angel serves to cheer me up somewhat.
Andrei Gavrilov was classmates with Yura and they were pretty close as kids, particularly because they both had Armernian mothers. He writes about him very fondly in his memoirs.

Yura left Russia because there was no way he could live openly. His early death at 33 is incredibly depressing to think about. (So to Joseph Villa's).

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Andrei-Fira-Pitch-Scenes-Musicians/dp/192672044X

I really engaged with his Debussy Preludes Boook 2. Usually this music leaves me unmoved but Yura's way with it really got my attention.
Herman
2018-06-08 06:58:59 UTC
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Yura left Russia because there was no way he could live openly. His early death at 33 is incredibly depressing to think about. (So to Joseph Villa's).
Who is Yura?

Or is this just another way to spell Youri Egorov's name incorrectly?
Neil
2018-06-08 15:23:07 UTC
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Yura left Russia because there was no way he could live openly. His early death at 33 is incredibly depressing to think about. (So to Joseph Villa's).
Who is Yura?
Or is this just another way to spell Youri Egorov's name incorrectly?
Diminutive of Youri. Like Dima / Dmitri etc.
Frank Berger
2018-06-08 15:28:15 UTC
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Yura left Russia because there was no way he could live openly. His early death at 33 is incredibly depressing to think about. (So to Joseph Villa's).
Who is Yura?
Or is this just another way to spell Youri Egorov's name incorrectly?
Diminutive of Youri. Like Dima / Dmitri etc.
As per Wikipedia:

Yury, Yuri, Youri, Yurii, Yuriy, Yurij, Iurii or Iouri is the Slavic
(Ukrainian: Юрій, translit. Jurij, or Russian: Юрий, translit. Jurij, or
Bulgarian: Юрий, translit. Jurij, or Belarusian: Юрый, translit. Juryj)
form of the masculine given name George; it is derived directly from the
Greek form Georgios and related to Polish Jerzy, Dutch Joeri and Czech Jiří.
Frank Berger
2018-06-08 15:30:46 UTC
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Yura left Russia because there was no way he could live openly.  His
early death at 33 is incredibly depressing to think about. (So to
Joseph Villa's).
Who is Yura?
Or is this just another way to spell Youri Egorov's name incorrectly?
Diminutive of Youri. Like Dima / Dmitri etc.
Yury, Yuri, Youri, Yurii, Yuriy, Yurij, Iurii or Iouri is the Slavic
(Ukrainian: Юрій, translit. Jurij, or Russian: Юрий, translit. Jurij, or
Bulgarian: Юрий, translit. Jurij, or Belarusian: Юрый, translit. Juryj)
form of the masculine given name George; it is derived directly from the
Greek form Georgios and related to Polish Jerzy, Dutch Joeri and Czech Jiří.
Not to be confused with the Hebrew name Uri (as in Uri Geller) which
means "light." "George" means tiller of the soil, or something like that.
Frank Berger
2018-06-08 15:33:22 UTC
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Yura left Russia because there was no way he could live openly.
His early death at 33 is incredibly depressing to think about. (So
to Joseph Villa's).
Who is Yura?
Or is this just another way to spell Youri Egorov's name incorrectly?
Diminutive of Youri. Like Dima / Dmitri etc.
Yury, Yuri, Youri, Yurii, Yuriy, Yurij, Iurii or Iouri is the Slavic
(Ukrainian: Юрій, translit. Jurij, or Russian: Юрий, translit. Jurij,
or Bulgarian: Юрий, translit. Jurij, or Belarusian: Юрый, translit.
Juryj) form of the masculine given name George; it is derived directly
from the Greek form Georgios and related to Polish Jerzy, Dutch Joeri
and Czech Jiří.
Not to be confused with the Hebrew name Uri (as in Uri Geller) which
means "light." "George" means tiller of the soil, or something like that.
Final word: Uri means "God is my light."
c***@gmail.com
2018-06-08 18:14:29 UTC
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Final word: Uri means "God is my light."
No. That would be Uriel (or Uriah, with the specific divine name rather than the generic "god"). Uri is a hypocoristic form of one or the other. (Great word, "hypocoristic" :-) There are lots of Hebrew personal names that include the element of "light" (or), such as Elior, Leor, Yair, etc.

AC
Frank Berger
2018-06-08 18:52:04 UTC
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Final word: Uri means "God is my light."
No. That would be Uriel (or Uriah, with the specific divine name rather than the generic "god"). Uri is a hypocoristic form of one or the other. (Great word, "hypocoristic" :-) There are lots of Hebrew personal names that include the element of "light" (or), such as Elior, Leor, Yair, etc.
AC
OK. I looked it up and reported what I found. It seemed wrong to me,
but I assumed I was wrong.
RiRiIII
2018-07-24 13:51:45 UTC
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Yura left Russia because there was no way he could live openly.  His
early death at 33 is incredibly depressing to think about. (So to
Joseph Villa's).
Who is Yura?
Or is this just another way to spell Youri Egorov's name incorrectly?
Diminutive of Youri. Like Dima / Dmitri etc.
Yury, Yuri, Youri, Yurii, Yuriy, Yurij, Iurii or Iouri is the Slavic
(Ukrainian: Юрій, translit. Jurij, or Russian: Юрий, translit. Jurij, or
Bulgarian: Юрий, translit. Jurij, or Belarusian: Юрый, translit. Juryj)
form of the masculine given name George; it is derived directly from the
Greek form Georgios and related to Polish Jerzy, Dutch Joeri and Czech Jiří.
Not to be confused with the Hebrew name Uri (as in Uri Geller) which
means "light." "George" means tiller of the soil, or something like that.
Exactly. "Georgios" is made from the greek words (i) "Gea" or "Gi" which means "Earth" or "Soil" and (ii) "Ergo" which means "Work" or "Labor". So, Georgios is the labor of earth/soil, and actually the agriculturer/farmer.
Herman
2018-07-24 14:46:29 UTC
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Exactly. "Georgios" is made from the greek words (i) "Gea" or "Gi" which means "Earth" or "Soil" and (ii) "Ergo" which means "Work" or "Labor". So, Georgios is the labor of earth/soil, and actually the agriculturer/farmer.
Really? Keep in mind that the Greek Ergon begins with the invisible letter W, which was discovered by scholars of Homer who noticed that the meter only made sense if that missing letter was supplied. And of course, the modern cognate Work shows that the W was there all along; the Greeks just didn't have a character in the alphabet for it.
Kepler
2018-07-24 15:37:24 UTC
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Sure they did:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digamma

Kepler

m***@gmail.com
2018-07-23 14:51:35 UTC
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Post by Lawrence Chalmers
Just finished a 7cd collection on Warner/EMI and was astounded by his
performances especially Debussy Preludes 1 & 2, Estampes and my introduction
to Schumann solo piano music. Wow is all I can say. I was dazzled. Made me want to re-evaluate his Symphonies and concertos, which failed to interest me
a while ago.
He was an outstanding pianist indeed.

I was particularly impressed by the two "Ambassador Recitals" live recordings that were published a couple years ago. The Schumann Fantasie is one of the best I have heard, a bit similar in spirit and passion to Nelson Freire's live recording (from 1984 I believe).

The Dutch collection "A life in music" with a box of live recordings from Amsterdam is a good supplement, even though the sound quality often is rather mediocre.
Wim
2018-07-24 08:04:48 UTC
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I was particularly impressed by the two "Ambassador Recitals" live recordings that were published a couple years ago. The Schumann Fantasie is one of the best I have heard, a bit similar in spirit and passion to Nelson Freire's live recording (from 1984 I believe).
The Schumann Fantasie is very intense, my absolute favorit.

It was me who found the Ambassador tapes and on my request (and costs) they
were transfered to digital for the first time, the tapes had an unsually format/speed and could not be played using the equipment of the archive.

The digital transfers of the analog tapes are remastered at Abbey Road Studios, if you want to hear the original tape (= sound), please do check http://www.youri-egorov.info/pasadena_1980_concerts.html for this. The 4-track tape uses 2 main microphones (left and right) and 2 ambient (hall) microphones. The original recording was made by Tom Maydeck.

The analog-to-digital process was done by George Blood using 24bit/96khz technology and a Studer A80MKII reel-to-reel recorder with a Prism ADA8 convertor.

FHR Records promo YouTube upload:


Wim
m***@gmail.com
2018-07-24 08:08:42 UTC
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I was particularly impressed by the two "Ambassador Recitals" live recordings that were published a couple years ago. The Schumann Fantasie is one of the best I have heard, a bit similar in spirit and passion to Nelson Freire's live recording (from 1984 I believe).
The Schumann Fantasie is very intense, my absolute favorit.
It was me who found the Ambassador tapes and on my request (and costs) they
were transfered to digital for the first time, the tapes had an unsually format/speed and could not be played using the equipment of the archive.
The digital transfers of the analog tapes are remastered at Abbey Road Studios, if you want to hear the original tape (= sound), please do check http://www.youri-egorov.info/pasadena_1980_concerts.html for this. The 4-track tape uses 2 main microphones (left and right) and 2 ambient (hall) microphones. The original recording was made by Tom Maydeck.
The analog-to-digital process was done by George Blood using 24bit/96khz technology and a Studer A80MKII reel-to-reel recorder with a Prism ADA8 convertor.
FHR Records promo YouTube upload: http://youtu.be/G-mPXevtROk
Wim
You have my gratitude for that endeavour, well done! I greatly enjoyed these recordings and am very happy these were found, transferred and remastered so well. Thank you for that Wim.
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