Post by v***@gmail.comPost by sheesh ranjeeshPost by John Lockemanipulative, pretentious, badly researched and full of errors and
dating problems. Total hogwash.
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Just like all of Madjoe's "evidence" on the Exodus.
He does more to prove it is a myth and not history than he ever intended.
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Post by v***@gmail.comPost by sheesh ranjeeshPost by John LockeSupposedly, because he doesn't bother to actually read what he links to. After as much time as he has spent here and the numerous times he's been found to have done this you would think he should have learned by now.
He certainly has been in full Gish gallop mode on this one.
SR
So much for your "consensus" that the exodus didn't happen. HAHAHAHAHA!
My consensus?
Show me the post where I claimed there was a "consensus".
Given that I have little knowledge and even less interest in
Biblical archaeology [1], I had no idea what the consensus in that field
might be, or even if there is any general agreement.
What I actually did do, on the other hand, was to take some of your posted articles
and see what independent commentary on their claims I could find.
For example, regarding your post "Director Posits Proof of Exodus" I posted
three links to sites investigating the claims made there. Did you look
look at even one of those?
I provided yet another link fact-checking the claims made in your
"New Film Proves Exodus Happened" post.
I'm guessing you didn't bother checking that one out either.
On your "Vast Majority of Egyptologists Believe Exodus Happened" I actually
went out and dug up the paper on which so extravagent a claim was made,
Hoffmeier's "Egyptologists and the Israelite Exodus from Egypt". Did you yourself
even bother looking for it, to see if it actually justified the claims in
the "Faith, Philosophy, and Science" article you linked to? I doubt it.
But I did. And I posted a number of reasons, extensively quoting Hoffmeier
himself, to show why that claim doesn't seem to be supported by
Hoffmeier's actual words. He certainly made no such claim there.
Did you even look at that post? Tell you what: I'll append it to
the end of this post for your perusal. All right?
And back to where we started: show me where I claimed any consensus
on the part of archaeologists and Egyptologists regarding the accuracy
of the account in Exodus:
SR
[1] the antics of Ron Wyatt excepted. Those never get old.
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My comments on the Hoffmeier paper supposedly demonstrating that
the "Vast Majority of Egyptologists Believe Exodus Happened":
-- Hoffmeier asked 125 Egyptologists. Only 25 bothered to answer.
-- Hoffmeier excluded from his survey anyone whose opinion he already knew.
-- He asked the respondants if they had published on the topic. Only
five of the 25 had, and "...none had engaged in a major project".
-- Of the 20 out of 25 who said they had not published on the topic,
the reasons they gave for not having done so was that they had
no expertise, or had no interest in the topic, or it was too
specialized a topic for their area of expertise, or that they
didn't want to get into a debate that was so religiously loaded.
Nonetheless, they offered an answer.
-- Hoffmeier said he was surprised by the positive results, but
added that "...most gave no evidence of knowledge of the debates
of the past 30 years among Old Testament scholars and biblical
archaeologists on the origins of Israel."
-- He asked two additional questions to give the respondants why
they held the opinions they did, but "many left these questions
blank".
-- "Another theme that came up with some frequency was the recognition
that Egypt may never be able to produce positive archaeological
evidence for the Hebrews in Egypt because there were large numbers
of Semites in Egypt at various times during the Second Millennium B.C.
and it would be impossible to distinguish one group from another."
-- "80 percent [of all asked] were either not interested in matters of biblical
history or felt they lacked the expertise to offer anything
concrete to the origins of Israel debate".
Taking all this together, Hoffmeier's paper hardly strikes me as
overwhelming evidence for the vast majority of all Egyptlogists
agreeing that the exodus was a historical event. Only a self-selected
twenty percent even answered, and of those most had done no significant
research in the area, and in fact "gave no evidence of knowledge of the debates
of the past 30 years" on the topic.