Creationism Scientifically Proven?

What Is the Probability of Life?

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2018-11-08 14:47:46 UTC

On Thu, 8 Nov 2018 08:03:09 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"

Post by BurfordTJustice
What Is the Probability of Life?

You cannot prove evolution dimwit that's why it's called a theory. If
you want to prove creationism show me the evidence. Or are you just
running your mouth?

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2018-11-08 15:10:48 UTC

On Thu, 08 Nov 2018 14:47:46 +0000, "p-0''0-h the cat (coder)"

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Post by BurfordTJustice
What Is the Probability of Life?

Define life.

You cannot prove evolution dimwit that's why it's called a theory.

To a certain extent. Bacteria and other short-lived and
quickly reproducing organisms evolve to adapt to adverse conditions in
a few days or weeks.
As a classic example, antibiotic-resistance.

If you want to prove creationism show me the evidence.

The Bouffant can't grasp the meaning of "evidence". It thinks
it's something the police plant on you.

Or are you just running your mouth?

It runs its arse, not its mouth.
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2018-11-10 02:38:44 UTC

Post by Shadow
To a certain extent. Bacteria and other short-lived and
quickly reproducing organisms evolve to adapt to adverse conditions in
a few days or weeks.
As a classic example, antibiotic-resistance.

Shadow,

They are not "evolving". This is about genetic diversity.
The ones that survive were already that way. And a population
explosion ensues of the ones that were already immune. And suddenly
you have Death By Medical's favorite weapon. (Killed both my
mother and father in laws.)

Actual evolution takes a heck of a lot longer. Probably
some cosmic radiation too. The exact mechanism is not
completely understood.

-T

Norman Wells

2018-11-10 08:29:30 UTC

Shadow,
They are not "evolving". This is about genetic diversity.
The ones that survive were already that way. And a population
explosion ensues of the ones that were already immune.

That's exactly how evolution happens.

Post by T
Actual evolution takes a heck of a lot longer. Probably
some cosmic radiation too. The exact mechanism is not
completely understood.

It is actually. It's selection in favour of random genetic variation,
however that genetic variation arose in the first place.

2018-11-10 21:53:37 UTC

Post by Norman Wells

Post by T
Actual evolution takes a heck of a lot longer. Probably
some cosmic radiation too. The exact mechanism is not
completely understood.

It is actually.

Not real well. It could be from comic radiation, chemical damage,
viral infection, just stinkin' good/bad luck, etc.. We can
induce it in the laboratory with X-rays and mutagenic chemicals,
but tracing down the actual culprit(s) is another issue

Post by Norman Wells
It's selection in favour of random genetic variation,
however that genetic variation arose in the first place.

Exactly

Shadow

2018-11-10 13:22:55 UTC

Shadow,
They are not "evolving". This is about genetic diversity.
The ones that survive were already that way.

No, completely different DNA sequences. Mutation (random
changes in DNA/RNA sequences) ---> most mutants die ----> better
adapted mutants survive and end up replacing the original strains. The
faster the reproduction, the greater the mutation rate.
That is what evolution is all about.

Post by T
And a population
explosion ensues of the ones that were already immune. And suddenly
you have Death By Medical's favorite weapon. (Killed both my
mother and father in laws.)
Actual evolution takes a heck of a lot longer. Probably
some cosmic radiation too. The exact mechanism is not
completely understood............

......by maybe half of the people. Yes, I understand that some
are not very bright. They go with "dog created the world a couple of
thousand years ago and put fossils there to mislead us" and call it a
"proven fact".
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2018-11-10 21:55:19 UTC

Shadow,
They are not "evolving". This is about genetic diversity.
The ones that survive were already that way.

Interesting how I was speaking of how antibiotic bacteria got that
way and you turning it into something entirely different

Shadow

2018-11-10 23:09:39 UTC

Shadow,
They are not "evolving". This is about genetic diversity.
The ones that survive were already that way.

Interesting how I was speaking of how antibiotic bacteria got that
way and you turning it into something entirely different

Bacteria (and viruses) evolve regardless of antimicrobials.
Remember the plague, Spanish flu etc. ABs just speed up the process. I
have a doctorate in infectology. I ought to know what I'm talking
about.
What are you specialized in ? Tightening screws ? Hitting
things with a hammer ? Everyone has a place in society. Even you.
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2018-11-11 03:47:50 UTC

Shadow,
They are not "evolving". This is about genetic diversity.
The ones that survive were already that way.

Interesting how I was speaking of how antibiotic bacteria got that
way and you turning it into something entirely different

Again. The time frame is too short. This was selection. They
were already there. The Spanish flu happened when immune
carriers to it were tossed in the trenches with those that
were not in WWI. Bacteria and viruses do evolve, but not
overnight. Go open a science book every once and a while!

Post by Shadow
Bacteria (and viruses) evolve regardless of antimicrobials.
Remember the plague, Spanish flu etc. ABs just speed up the process. I
have a doctorate in infectology. I ought to know what I'm talking
about.

Than you should know better. Any chance of you getting your
money back?

Uhhh, I would not go to you. You fall short on a lot of things.
And a lot of advice you give I find pretty bad. You are better
at goose stepping than being an allopath.

By the way, Composition Powder saved a lot of people from the
Spanish Flu. Bet you don't even know what I am talking about
comrade chemical doctor.

Shadow

2018-11-11 10:15:33 UTC

Shadow,
They are not "evolving". This is about genetic diversity.
The ones that survive were already that way.

Interesting how I was speaking of how antibiotic bacteria got that
way and you turning it into something entirely different

Yes, they do mutate overnight. Or over day.

Post by T
Go open a science book every once and a while!

If I had a dollar for every word in every medical book I've
read and you had a nickel for every nail you've handed to your boss,
I'd be so much richer ....

I'm certainly not a right wing Nazi. I was wrong about you.
You aren't bright enough to use a hammer are you ?. You carry the
little box with the nails.....

Post by T
By the way, Composition Powder saved a lot of people from the
Spanish Flu. Bet you don't even know what I am talking about
comrade chemical doctor.

Never heard of it. I am (or was) a medical doctor for 37
years, so if it's not a scam I'm rather surprised. What is it, a
christian cross ground up fine and wafted around to destroy the
millions of droplets with viruses a sneeze produces ? A blessed magnet
that reverses the viruses DNA and makes it harmless ? I'm intrigued.
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2018-11-11 23:16:02 UTC

Post by Shadow
right wing Nazi

Nazi's were left wing, not right wing. The only difference
between Nazis and Soviets was the language the spoke.
Socialists are Left Wing, not Right Wing.

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2018-11-11 23:34:35 UTC

Post by Shadow
right wing Nazi

Nazi's were left wing, not right wing. The only difference
between Nazis and Soviets was the language the spoke.
Socialists are Left Wing, not Right Wing.

Nope, they were right wing nationalistic racists. Don't be so foolish.

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2018-11-12 00:16:09 UTC

On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 23:34:35 +0000, "p-0''0-h the cat (coder)"

Post by Shadow
right wing Nazi

Nazi's were left wing, not right wing. The only difference
between Nazis and Soviets was the language the spoke.
Socialists are Left Wing, not Right Wing.

Nope, they were right wing nationalistic racists. Don't be so foolish.

no they weren't, they were left wing nationalist racists...

you should know better

go study

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Post by abelard
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Post by Shadow
right wing Nazi

Nazi's were left wing, not right wing. The only difference
between Nazis and Soviets was the language the spoke.
Socialists are Left Wing, not Right Wing.

Nope, they were right wing nationalistic racists. Don't be so foolish.

no they weren't, they were left wing nationalist racists...

So the soviets were left wing nationalist racists?

Post by abelard
you should know better
go study

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Post by abelard
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Post by Shadow
right wing Nazi

Nazi's were left wing, not right wing. The only difference
between Nazis and Soviets was the language the spoke.
Socialists are Left Wing, not Right Wing.

Nope, they were right wing nationalistic racists. Don't be so foolish.

no they weren't, they were left wing nationalist racists...

So the soviets were left wing nationalist racists?

Post by abelard
you should know better
go study

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The Soviets were more cleaver about their racism.
Very little difference between the two.

And by the way, Nationalist was meant as "unity" by the
Nazis. Everyone had to think the same. Sort of like
modern day political correctness. There are a lot of
Nationalists that are not Left Wing Loonies. Most
world leaders are nationalist.

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2018-11-12 00:55:01 UTC

Post by abelard
On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 23:34:35 +0000, "p-0''0-h the cat (coder)"

Post by Shadow
right wing Nazi

Nazi's were left wing, not right wing. The only difference
between Nazis and Soviets was the language the spoke.
Socialists are Left Wing, not Right Wing.

Nope, they were right wing nationalistic racists. Don't be so foolish.

no they weren't, they were left wing nationalist racists...

So the soviets were left wing nationalist racists?

Post by abelard
you should know better
go study

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The Soviets were more cleaver about their racism.
Very little difference between the two.
And by the way, Nationalist was meant as "unity" by the
Nazis. Everyone had to think the same. Sort of like
modern day political correctness. There are a lot of
Nationalists that are not Left Wing Loonies. Most
world leaders are nationalist.

Politics is great. I should have gone into politics. All that hard work
over the years trying to understand stuff. Complete waste of time. I
could have saved myself the effort and just made up stuff. Regrets, I've
had a few...

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Post by Shadow
right wing Nazi

Nazi's were left wing, not right wing. The only difference
between Nazis and Soviets was the language the spoke.
Socialists are Left Wing, not Right Wing.

Nope, they were right wing nationalistic racists. Don't be so foolish.

no they weren't, they were left wing nationalist racists...

So the soviets were left wing nationalist racists?

before the war they posed as international socialists,
whereas adolf posed as a national socialist...
when the war started, stalin sold it as the great patriotic war

of course until 1941 they were allies...
much of those stalin used to fight the war were not 'russians'
you can never trust a socialist!

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2018-11-12 01:10:55 UTC

Post by Shadow
right wing Nazi

Nazi's were left wing, not right wing. The only difference
between Nazis and Soviets was the language the spoke.
Socialists are Left Wing, not Right Wing.

Nope, they were right wing nationalistic racists.

They were also socialists.

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2018-11-12 01:33:59 UTC

On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 12:10:55 +1100, "Rod Speed"

Post by Shadow
right wing Nazi

Nazi's were left wing, not right wing. The only difference
between Nazis and Soviets was the language the spoke.
Socialists are Left Wing, not Right Wing.

Nope, they were right wing nationalistic racists.

They were also socialists.

Prior to voting Nazi, Nazi voters voted for centre-right and far-right
parties, or didnt vote at all. Support for the Nazis did not come from
disaffected left-wing or centre-left voters.

https://gking.harvard.edu/files/gking/files/nazivp.pdf

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2018-11-12 03:38:20 UTC

Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 12:10:55 +1100, "Rod Speed"

Post by Shadow
right wing Nazi

Nazi's were left wing, not right wing. The only difference
between Nazis and Soviets was the language the spoke.
Socialists are Left Wing, not Right Wing.

Nope, they were right wing nationalistic racists.

They were also socialists.

Prior to voting Nazi, Nazi voters voted for centre-right
and far-right parties, or didn't vote at all.

Its much more complicated than that
and irrelevant to what the Nazis were.

Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
Support for the Nazis did not come from
disaffected left-wing or centre-left voters.

Irrelevant to what the Nazis were.

Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
https://gking.harvard.edu/files/gking/files/nazivp.pdf

p-0''0-h the cat (coder)

2018-11-12 09:28:11 UTC

On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 14:38:20 +1100, "Rod Speed"

Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 12:10:55 +1100, "Rod Speed"

Post by Shadow
right wing Nazi

Nazi's were left wing, not right wing. The only difference
between Nazis and Soviets was the language the spoke.
Socialists are Left Wing, not Right Wing.

Nope, they were right wing nationalistic racists.

They were also socialists.

Prior to voting Nazi, Nazi voters voted for centre-right
and far-right parties, or didn't vote at all.

Its much more complicated than that
and irrelevant to what the Nazis were.

Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
Support for the Nazis did not come from
disaffected left-wing or centre-left voters.

Irrelevant to what the Nazis were.

Of course you know better than the people that voted for them. Don't be
so stupid. Do you really think the far right and centre right voters who
voted for Hitler suddenly en masse turned socialist overnight.

Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
https://gking.harvard.edu/files/gking/files/nazivp.pdf

Rod Speed

2018-11-12 09:44:49 UTC

Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 14:38:20 +1100, "Rod Speed"

Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 12:10:55 +1100, "Rod Speed"

Post by Shadow
right wing Nazi

Nazi's were left wing, not right wing. The only difference
between Nazis and Soviets was the language the spoke.
Socialists are Left Wing, not Right Wing.

Nope, they were right wing nationalistic racists.

They were also socialists.

Prior to voting Nazi, Nazi voters voted for centre-right
and far-right parties, or didn't vote at all.

Its much more complicated than that
and irrelevant to what the Nazis were.

Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
Support for the Nazis did not come from
disaffected left-wing or centre-left voters.

Irrelevant to what the Nazis were.

Of course you know better than the people that voted for them.

Those who voted for them are completely irrelevant to what they were.

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2018-11-12 09:58:27 UTC

On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 20:44:49 +1100, "Rod Speed"

Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 14:38:20 +1100, "Rod Speed"

Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 12:10:55 +1100, "Rod Speed"

Post by Shadow
right wing Nazi

Nazi's were left wing, not right wing. The only difference
between Nazis and Soviets was the language the spoke.
Socialists are Left Wing, not Right Wing.

Nope, they were right wing nationalistic racists.

They were also socialists.

Prior to voting Nazi, Nazi voters voted for centre-right
and far-right parties, or didn't vote at all.

Its much more complicated than that
and irrelevant to what the Nazis were.

Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
Support for the Nazis did not come from
disaffected left-wing or centre-left voters.

Irrelevant to what the Nazis were.

Of course you know better than the people that voted for them.

Those who voted for them are completely irrelevant to what they were.

Great argument Rod [NOT] but you can't fool all of the people all of the
time. They weren't all following orders. They knew what they were doing.
The right wing didn't suddenly vote for socialists. This little factoid
blows all the present day right wing crap about Nazis being socialists
out of the water. I realise that. That's why I posted it. You and your
chums are going to have to work bloody hard to overcome this, the
bleeding obvious.

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Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
Of course you know better than the people that voted for them.

Those who voted for them are completely irrelevant to what they were.

Of course it relevant, senile asshole! Gee...

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2018-11-12 10:33:03 UTC

On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 14:38:20 +1100, cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rot

Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
Prior to voting Nazi, Nazi voters voted for centre-right
and far-right parties, or didn't vote at all.

Its much more complicated than that
and irrelevant to what the Nazis were.

It's relevant to the fact that they were no socialists, as you idiotically
claimed, senile Rot!

Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
Support for the Nazis did not come from
disaffected left-wing or centre-left voters.

Irrelevant to what the Nazis were.

Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
https://gking.harvard.edu/files/gking/files/nazivp.pdf

It's relevant to the fact that they were no socialists, as you idiotically
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2018-11-12 08:18:44 UTC

Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 12:10:55 +1100, "Rod Speed"

Post by Shadow
right wing Nazi

Nazi's were left wing, not right wing. The only difference
between Nazis and Soviets was the language the spoke.
Socialists are Left Wing, not Right Wing.

Nope, they were right wing nationalistic racists.

They were also socialists.

Prior to voting Nazi, Nazi voters voted for centre-right and far-right
parties, or didn’t vote at all. Support for the Nazis did not come from
disaffected left-wing or centre-left voters.
https://gking.harvard.edu/files/gking/files/nazivp.pdf
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Oh brother poo cat. You fall for this propaganda. The Nazis and
Communists competed for the same base. And the based ebbed and flowed
back and forth between the two.

The reason why Nazis are called right wing is so left wingers and repeat
the stupidity and claim distance from then Nazis. "They are the opposite
of use", especially when they are not.

Rod Speed

2018-11-12 09:11:37 UTC

Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 12:10:55 +1100, "Rod Speed"

Post by Shadow
right wing Nazi

Nazi's were left wing, not right wing. The only difference
between Nazis and Soviets was the language the spoke.
Socialists are Left Wing, not Right Wing.

Nope, they were right wing nationalistic racists.

They were also socialists.

Oh brother poo cat. You fall for this propaganda. The Nazis and
Communists competed for the same base.

No they didn’t.

Post by T
And the based ebbed and flowed
back and forth between the two.

Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you
usually manage, and that’s saying something.

Post by T
The reason why Nazis are called right wing is so left wingers and repeat
the stupidity and claim distance from then Nazis. "They are the opposite
of use", especially when they are not.

Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you
usually manage, and that’s saying something.

They are in fact very different to us.

p-0''0-h the cat (coder)

2018-11-12 09:49:21 UTC

Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 12:10:55 +1100, "Rod Speed"

Post by Shadow
right wing Nazi

Nazi's were left wing, not right wing. The only difference
between Nazis and Soviets was the language the spoke.
Socialists are Left Wing, not Right Wing.

Nope, they were right wing nationalistic racists.

They were also socialists.

Oh brother poo cat. You fall for this propaganda. The Nazis and
Communists competed for the same base. And the based ebbed and flowed
back and forth between the two.
The reason why Nazis are called right wing is so left wingers and repeat
the stupidity and claim distance from then Nazis. "They are the opposite
of use", especially when they are not.

What you are suggesting is that the people who voted for the Nazis
didn't know they were voting for socialists or they did know and en
masse change their political affiliation.

The facts are that the right wing voted for the Nazis and they knew
exactly what they were doing.

The most important fact here is that you have no real answer to this,
just blather.

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On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 09:49:21 +0000, "p-0''0-h the cat (coder)"

Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 12:10:55 +1100, "Rod Speed"

Post by Shadow
right wing Nazi

Nazi's were left wing, not right wing. The only difference
between Nazis and Soviets was the language the spoke.
Socialists are Left Wing, not Right Wing.

Nope, they were right wing nationalistic racists.

They were also socialists.

Oh brother poo cat. You fall for this propaganda. The Nazis and
Communists competed for the same base. And the based ebbed and flowed
back and forth between the two.
The reason why Nazis are called right wing is so left wingers and repeat
the stupidity and claim distance from then Nazis. "They are the opposite
of use", especially when they are not.

approximately 30% vote float between national socialists
and international socialists...

as another poster has said, what the voters did is pretty
well irrelevant...jut as it is irrelevant which football
team you support...
what matters is that they are both socialist and both kill
by the million when they get real power...they kill by
their mad beliefs and they kill by destroying economies...
they kill by their tendency to attack other states...

it didn't stop with hitler and staling...it continues with the
mad boy king in n. korea...it continues in china...it
continues in syria and venezuela...it was recently
in action in 'zimbabwe' and i doubt if they've learned
their lesson yet..
you really should study and learn from your betters...
but surely you've only come here to posture, not to
learn...

you're a football supporter, not an informed student of
politics...the groaniad and new york times do not
comprise study

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2018-11-12 11:28:26 UTC

Post by abelard
On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 09:49:21 +0000, "p-0''0-h the cat (coder)"

Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 12:10:55 +1100, "Rod Speed"

Post by Shadow
right wing Nazi

Nazi's were left wing, not right wing. The only difference
between Nazis and Soviets was the language the spoke.
Socialists are Left Wing, not Right Wing.

Nope, they were right wing nationalistic racists.

They were also socialists.

Oh brother poo cat. You fall for this propaganda. The Nazis and
Communists competed for the same base. And the based ebbed and flowed
back and forth between the two.
The reason why Nazis are called right wing is so left wingers and repeat
the stupidity and claim distance from then Nazis. "They are the opposite
of use", especially when they are not.

approximately 30% vote float between national socialists
and international socialists...
as another poster has said, what the voters did is pretty
well irrelevant...jut as it is irrelevant which football
team you support...
what matters is that they are both socialist and both kill
by the million when they get real power...they kill by
their mad beliefs and they kill by destroying economies...
they kill by their tendency to attack other states...
it didn't stop with hitler and staling...it continues with the
mad boy king in n. korea...it continues in china...it
continues in syria and venezuela...it was recently
in action in 'zimbabwe' and i doubt if they've learned
their lesson yet..
you really should study and learn from your betters...
but surely you've only come here to posture, not to
learn...
you're a football supporter, not an informed student of
politics...the groaniad and new york times do not
comprise study

So the Nazis motivated the right wing to vote for them and managed to
hide the fact that they were really socialists. No, hang on they even
called themselves...

Do you really believe that our ancestors were any more stupid than we
are today. If you do then you are a fool.

The right wing voted for the right wing. They knew what they were doing.
They were there. You were not. You are in the here and now trying to
rewrite a history that doesn't suit your cause.

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2018-11-12 11:37:21 UTC

On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 11:28:26 +0000, "p-0''0-h the cat (coder)"

Post by abelard
On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 09:49:21 +0000, "p-0''0-h the cat (coder)"

Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 12:10:55 +1100, "Rod Speed"

Post by Shadow
right wing Nazi

Nazi's were left wing, not right wing. The only difference
between Nazis and Soviets was the language the spoke.
Socialists are Left Wing, not Right Wing.

Nope, they were right wing nationalistic racists.

They were also socialists.

Oh brother poo cat. You fall for this propaganda. The Nazis and
Communists competed for the same base. And the based ebbed and flowed
back and forth between the two.
The reason why Nazis are called right wing is so left wingers and repeat
the stupidity and claim distance from then Nazis. "They are the opposite
of use", especially when they are not.

approximately 30% vote float between national socialists
and international socialists...
as another poster has said, what the voters did is pretty
well irrelevant...jut as it is irrelevant which football
team you support...
what matters is that they are both socialist and both kill
by the million when they get real power...they kill by
their mad beliefs and they kill by destroying economies...
they kill by their tendency to attack other states...
it didn't stop with hitler and staling...it continues with the
mad boy king in n. korea...it continues in china...it
continues in syria and venezuela...it was recently
in action in 'zimbabwe' and i doubt if they've learned
their lesson yet..
you really should study and learn from your betters...
but surely you've only come here to posture, not to
learn...
you're a football supporter, not an informed student of
politics...the groaniad and new york times do not
comprise study

So the Nazis motivated the right wing to vote for them and managed to
hide the fact that they were really socialists. No, hang on they even
called themselves...

they motivated fools to vote for them..as socialists do

Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
Do you really believe that our ancestors were any more stupid than we
are today. If you do then you are a fool.

the national socialists at their peak only got around 30% of
votes...

that tends to mean uninformed/uneducated people like yourself

you are expected to remain in such a situation

Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
The right wing voted for the right wing. They knew what they were doing.
They were there. You were not. You are in the here and now trying to
rewrite a history that doesn't suit your cause.

you are not anywhere, beside begging at doorways

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2018-11-12 11:49:42 UTC

Post by abelard
On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 11:28:26 +0000, "p-0''0-h the cat (coder)"

Post by abelard
On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 09:49:21 +0000, "p-0''0-h the cat (coder)"

Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 12:10:55 +1100, "Rod Speed"

Post by Shadow
right wing Nazi

Nazi's were left wing, not right wing. The only difference
between Nazis and Soviets was the language the spoke.
Socialists are Left Wing, not Right Wing.

Nope, they were right wing nationalistic racists.

They were also socialists.

Oh brother poo cat. You fall for this propaganda. The Nazis and
Communists competed for the same base. And the based ebbed and flowed
back and forth between the two.
The reason why Nazis are called right wing is so left wingers and repeat
the stupidity and claim distance from then Nazis. "They are the opposite
of use", especially when they are not.

approximately 30% vote float between national socialists
and international socialists...
as another poster has said, what the voters did is pretty
well irrelevant...jut as it is irrelevant which football
team you support...
what matters is that they are both socialist and both kill
by the million when they get real power...they kill by
their mad beliefs and they kill by destroying economies...
they kill by their tendency to attack other states...
it didn't stop with hitler and staling...it continues with the
mad boy king in n. korea...it continues in china...it
continues in syria and venezuela...it was recently
in action in 'zimbabwe' and i doubt if they've learned
their lesson yet..
you really should study and learn from your betters...
but surely you've only come here to posture, not to
learn...
you're a football supporter, not an informed student of
politics...the groaniad and new york times do not
comprise study

So the Nazis motivated the right wing to vote for them and managed to
hide the fact that they were really socialists. No, hang on they even
called themselves...

they motivated fools to vote for them..as socialists do

All parties motivate fools to vote for them. The people that voted the
Nazis into power were the right wing. You are just blathering now.

Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
Do you really believe that our ancestors were any more stupid than we
are today. If you do then you are a fool.

the national socialists at their peak only got around 30% of
votes...

Those 30% of votes were from right wing voters. I realise this is a
shock to your system. The truth you have tried to hide from yourself
behind a facade of 'academic study'. Not my problem. Phone Shit the cat
if you require therapy.

Post by abelard
that tends to mean uninformed/uneducated people like yourself
you are expected to remain in such a situation

you are not anywhere, beside begging at doorways

abelard

2018-11-12 11:59:53 UTC

On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 11:49:42 +0000, "p-0''0-h the cat (coder)"

Post by abelard
On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 11:28:26 +0000, "p-0''0-h the cat (coder)"

Post by abelard
On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 09:49:21 +0000, "p-0''0-h the cat (coder)"

Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 12:10:55 +1100, "Rod Speed"

Post by Shadow
right wing Nazi

Nazi's were left wing, not right wing. The only difference
between Nazis and Soviets was the language the spoke.
Socialists are Left Wing, not Right Wing.

Nope, they were right wing nationalistic racists.

They were also socialists.

Oh brother poo cat. You fall for this propaganda. The Nazis and
Communists competed for the same base. And the based ebbed and flowed
back and forth between the two.
The reason why Nazis are called right wing is so left wingers and repeat
the stupidity and claim distance from then Nazis. "They are the opposite
of use", especially when they are not.

approximately 30% vote float between national socialists
and international socialists...
as another poster has said, what the voters did is pretty
well irrelevant...jut as it is irrelevant which football
team you support...
what matters is that they are both socialist and both kill
by the million when they get real power...they kill by
their mad beliefs and they kill by destroying economies...
they kill by their tendency to attack other states...
it didn't stop with hitler and staling...it continues with the
mad boy king in n. korea...it continues in china...it
continues in syria and venezuela...it was recently
in action in 'zimbabwe' and i doubt if they've learned
their lesson yet..
you really should study and learn from your betters...
but surely you've only come here to posture, not to
learn...
you're a football supporter, not an informed student of
politics...the groaniad and new york times do not
comprise study

So the Nazis motivated the right wing to vote for them and managed to
hide the fact that they were really socialists. No, hang on they even
called themselves...

they motivated fools to vote for them..as socialists do

All parties motivate fools to vote for them. The people that voted the
Nazis into power were the right wing. You are just blathering now.

Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
Do you really believe that our ancestors were any more stupid than we
are today. If you do then you are a fool.

the national socialists at their peak only got around 30% of
votes...

get back down the shallow end and stop embarrassing yourself

you're out of your depth...

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2018-11-12 12:07:57 UTC

Post by abelard
On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 11:49:42 +0000, "p-0''0-h the cat (coder)"

Post by abelard
On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 11:28:26 +0000, "p-0''0-h the cat (coder)"

Post by abelard
On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 09:49:21 +0000, "p-0''0-h the cat (coder)"

Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 12:10:55 +1100, "Rod Speed"

Post by Shadow
right wing Nazi

Nazi's were left wing, not right wing. The only difference
between Nazis and Soviets was the language the spoke.
Socialists are Left Wing, not Right Wing.

Nope, they were right wing nationalistic racists.

They were also socialists.

Oh brother poo cat. You fall for this propaganda. The Nazis and
Communists competed for the same base. And the based ebbed and flowed
back and forth between the two.
The reason why Nazis are called right wing is so left wingers and repeat
the stupidity and claim distance from then Nazis. "They are the opposite
of use", especially when they are not.

approximately 30% vote float between national socialists
and international socialists...
as another poster has said, what the voters did is pretty
well irrelevant...jut as it is irrelevant which football
team you support...
what matters is that they are both socialist and both kill
by the million when they get real power...they kill by
their mad beliefs and they kill by destroying economies...
they kill by their tendency to attack other states...
it didn't stop with hitler and staling...it continues with the
mad boy king in n. korea...it continues in china...it
continues in syria and venezuela...it was recently
in action in 'zimbabwe' and i doubt if they've learned
their lesson yet..
you really should study and learn from your betters...
but surely you've only come here to posture, not to
learn...
you're a football supporter, not an informed student of
politics...the groaniad and new york times do not
comprise study

So the Nazis motivated the right wing to vote for them and managed to
hide the fact that they were really socialists. No, hang on they even
called themselves...

they motivated fools to vote for them..as socialists do

All parties motivate fools to vote for them. The people that voted the
Nazis into power were the right wing. You are just blathering now.

Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
Do you really believe that our ancestors were any more stupid than we
are today. If you do then you are a fool.

the national socialists at their peak only got around 30% of
votes...

get back down the shallow end and stop embarrassing yourself
you're out of your depth...

You are old Father William and your hair is white
Yet you seem unable to prove that Pooh is not right

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On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 12:10:55 +1100, cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rot

Post by T
Nazi's were left wing, not right wing. The only difference
between Nazis and Soviets was the language the spoke.
Socialists are Left Wing, not Right Wing.

Nope, they were right wing nationalistic racists.

They were also socialists.

They were deranged psychopaths, like you!

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2018-11-12 12:52:43 UTC

On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 23:34:35 +0000, "p-0''0-h the cat (coder)"

Post by Shadow
right wing Nazi

Nazi's were left wing, not right wing. The only difference
between Nazis and Soviets was the language the spoke.
Socialists are Left Wing, not Right Wing.

Nope, they were right wing nationalistic racists. Don't be so foolish.

It's no use. Brazil's Bolsonaro has declared he is a Nazi. He
admires Hitler. His great grandfather worked in the gas chambers, and
fled to Brazil when the war was over. Bolsonaro says he's proud of
him.

Anyone disagree Bolsonaro is far-right wing ?

And yet his party is called the PSL (Social Liberal Party).

If you stick a label "I'm an elephant" on a rabbit the
ignorant will move out of its way, less they be crushed by its weight.
And shout "Wow, look at that elephant, it hops!".
[]'s

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2018-11-11 23:18:30 UTC

Post by Shadow
Yes, they do mutate overnight. Or over day.

That is too fast. You are either noticing epigenic
expressions or specific selection, not mutation

Shadow

2018-11-12 12:31:49 UTC

Post by Shadow
Yes, they do mutate overnight. Or over day.

That is too fast. You are either noticing epigenic
expressions or specific selection, not mutation

I said "they do mutate overnight. Or over day."

Notice the absence of "every".
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2018-11-11 23:20:03 UTC

Post by Shadow
Never heard of it. I am (or was) a medical doctor for 37
years, so if it's not a scam I'm rather surprised. What is it, a
christian cross ground up fine and wafted around to destroy the
millions of droplets with viruses a sneeze produces ? A blessed magnet
that reverses the viruses DNA and makes it harmless ? I'm intrigued.

Of course you have never heard of it. You are a chemical doctor.
And you missive above shows you have no idea what traditional medicine
is. Think outside the box, comrade.

p-0''0-h the cat (coder)

2018-11-11 23:39:20 UTC

Of course you have never heard of it. You are a chemical doctor.
And you missive above shows you have no idea what traditional medicine
is. Think outside the box, comrade.

So where's your link to details of this Composition Powder?

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2018-11-12 00:19:59 UTC

On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 23:39:20 +0000, "p-0''0-h the cat (coder)"

Of course you have never heard of it. You are a chemical doctor.
And you missive above shows you have no idea what traditional medicine
is. Think outside the box, comrade.

So where's your link to details of this Composition Powder?

doctor christopher's or smile's

and so on
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Biogenesis-Ultralean-Composition-Powder-1-4-pounds/dp/B002GON62C

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2018-11-12 00:50:19 UTC

Post by abelard
On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 23:39:20 +0000, "p-0''0-h the cat (coder)"

Of course you have never heard of it. You are a chemical doctor.
And you missive above shows you have no idea what traditional medicine
is. Think outside the box, comrade.

So where's your link to details of this Composition Powder?

doctor christopher's or smile's
and so on
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Biogenesis-Ultralean-Composition-Powder-1-4-pounds/dp/B002GON62C

I find a bottle of Southern Comfort and some organic lemons [ healthy
option ] cures just about anything cold or flu related. Little known
factoid brought to you from catland. Mind you there's nothing worse than
cat flu, man flu is for sissies.

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2018-11-12 08:22:09 UTC

Post by abelard
doctor christopher's

That is the one. Arguably, America greatest herbalist

2018-11-12 08:20:48 UTC

Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
So where's your link to details of this Composition Powder?

I did not give it to Comrade Shadow as I did not
think he was serious.

If you are serious and you can't find it on Google, I will look
it up for you.

Shadow

2018-11-12 12:39:25 UTC

Of course you have never heard of it. You are a chemical doctor.
And you missive above shows you have no idea what traditional medicine
is. Think outside the box, comrade.

I lot of the drugs I prescribed came from nature. If you mean
without double blind controlled tests, "AKA trick or treat" then no, I
have never prescribed untested pharmaceuticals.
And I DID read the consensus, to see if 90% of the experts
weren't on some Big Pharma payroll. Read the latest diabetes and
hypertension "consensus". You will be shocked. Or if you are a right
winger, probably not.
PS I hate communism, as I do any dictatorship, "comrade".
[]'s

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BurfordTJustice

2018-11-11 11:25:02 UTC

LOL From Brazil? where you helped murder a man?

Did you :infect" him first??

You have ZERO credibility.....LOL

"Shadow" <***@dow.br> wrote in message news:***@4ax.com...
: . I
: have a doctorate in infectology. I ought to know what I'm talking
: about.

2018-11-11 04:05:00 UTC

Post by Shadow
No, completely different DNA sequences. Mutation (random
changes in DNA/RNA sequences) ---> most mutants die ----> better
adapted mutants survive and end up replacing the original strains. The
faster the reproduction, the greater the mutation rate.
That is what evolution is all about.

Comrade,

Yes indeed. You actually open a science text book.
Baby steps.

And by the way, not all useless mutations should be removed.
If they do not hinder the population, they should
stick around, but don't seem to. This is one of the holes
in evolution and why the field is so fascinating.
There are still so many things to be discovered.

Hell Quantum Physics has some holes in it too, like
gravity. Quantum Physics is hold on by several
bazillions strings.

-T

Rod Speed

2018-11-11 05:47:30 UTC

And by the way, not all useless mutations should be removed. If they do
not hinder the population, they should stick around, but don't seem to.

They do actually. That’s why we see some
of the more unusual eye colors in humans.
Mate of mine has bright yellow eyes, weird.

This is one of the holes in evolution

Nope.

2018-11-11 06:58:57 UTC

And by the way, not all useless mutations should be removed. If they
do not hinder the population, they should stick around, but don't seem
to.

They do actually. That’s why we see some
of the more unusual eye colors in humans.
Mate of mine has bright yellow eyes, weird.

Hi Rod,

Yellow eyes can mean liver issues. Has he been thoroughly
checked out by a doctor (maybe two, as ask any 10 the same
thing and you will get 10 different answers)?

Also, there is not a lot an allopath can do to help one's
liver heal, but traditional medicine has a lot. A google
search will give them to you or ping me and I will dig up
what I remember.

This is one of the holes in evolution

Nope.

I am presuming evolution is not a religious axiom to you, but the
same as it is with me: fascinating scientific research. And
as such, open to debate, which is how the scientific process works.

If it is an Axiom to you, then please stop reading. It will offend.

Some mutations do seems to stick around. You would expect to
see a whole lot more of them.

Actually, the field is rather fascinating. There are tons more
things to learn. The study of nature is NEVER finished. There
is always something new to be discovered and something old to
be debunked. Heat your coffee with any caloric lately?

A google search will turn up several reputable articles on
the subject. Here is one:

How Evolution Works
https://science.howstuffworks.com/life/evolution/evolution8.htm

Here is their examples:

How does evolution add information to a genome to create
progressively more complicated organisms?

How is evolution able to bring about drastic changes so quickly?

How could the first living cell arise spontaneously to get
evolution started?

By the way, both the above article and Comrade Shadow missed
epigenetic gene expression, which is not evolution. Although
evolution probably had a lot to do with creating the mechanism.
I commonly see folk confuse epigenetic gene expression for
evolution. There is so much see still have to learn. If we
knew it all, where would the fun be in that?

-T

Rod Speed

2018-11-11 08:32:04 UTC

And by the way, not all useless mutations should be removed. If they do
not hinder the population, they should stick around, but don't seem to.

They do actually. That’s why we see some
of the more unusual eye colors in humans.
Mate of mine has bright yellow eyes, weird.

Hi Rod,
Yellow eyes can mean liver issues.

Not when it’s the iris that is bright yellow, where
most people are blue, brown or even green.

Another mate of mine is not quite so striking,
bit the color of his irises does change from
green to grey etc depending on his mood etc.

Post by T
Has he been thoroughly checked out by a doctor

No need when it’s the iris color.

Post by T
(maybe two, as ask any 10 the same thing and you will get 10 different
answers)?
Also, there is not a lot an allopath can do to help one's liver heal, but
traditional medicine has a lot.

Nope.

This is one of the holes in evolution

Nope.

I am presuming evolution is not a religious axiom to you,

Nope, I have a hard science background.

Post by T
but the same as it is with me: fascinating scientific research. And
as such, open to debate, which is how the scientific process works.

Yes.

Post by T
If it is an Axiom to you, then please stop reading. It will offend.

Nothing offends me.

Post by T
Some mutations do seems to stick around.

Yes, particularly with the color of irises.

Not just in humans either, a few
dog breeds have striking blue eyes.

Post by T
You would expect to see a whole lot more of them.

No, there arent many that are so strikingly visible.

We do however see quite a bit of other stuff with
humans, particularly with hair color and texture.

And skin color too.

Post by T
Actually, the field is rather fascinating. There are tons more
things to learn. The study of nature is NEVER finished. There
is always something new to be discovered and something old to be debunked.
Heat your coffee with any caloric lately?

I havent bothered with coffee for decades now. Or tea either.

Post by T
A google search will turn up several reputable articles on the subject.
How Evolution Works
https://science.howstuffworks.com/life/evolution/evolution8.htm
How does evolution add information to a genome to create progressively
more complicated organisms?
How is evolution able to bring about drastic changes so quickly?
How could the first living cell arise spontaneously to get
evolution started?
By the way, both the above article and Comrade Shadow missed epigenetic
gene expression, which is not evolution.

Yes it is, everything is.

Post by T
Although evolution probably had a lot to do with creating the mechanism.I
commonly see folk confuse epigenetic gene expression for evolution. There
is so much see still have to learn. If we knew it all, where would the
fun be in that?

The Peeler

2018-11-11 09:52:23 UTC

On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 19:32:04 +1100, cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rot
Speed blabbered, again:
ssues.

Post by Rod Speed
Not

LOL

Post by Rod Speed
No

LOL

Post by Rod Speed
Nope.

LOL

Post by Rod Speed
Nope

LOL

Post by Rod Speed
Nothing

LOL

Post by Rod Speed
No

LOL

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2018-11-11 23:32:23 UTC

And by the way, not all useless mutations should be removed. If they
do not hinder the population, they should stick around, but don't
seem to.

They do actually. That’s why we see some
of the more unusual eye colors in humans.
Mate of mine has bright yellow eyes, weird.

Hi Rod,
Yellow eyes can mean liver issues.

Not when it’s the iris that is bright yellow, where
most people are blue, brown or even green.
Another mate of mine is not quite so striking,
bit the color of his irises does change from
green to grey etc depending on his mood etc.

Post by T
Has he been thoroughly checked out by a doctor

No need when it’s the iris color.

Post by T
(maybe two, as ask any 10 the same thing and you will get 10 different
answers)?
Also, there is not a lot an allopath can do to help one's liver heal,
but traditional medicine has a lot.

Nope.

This is one of the holes in evolution

Nope.

I am presuming evolution is not a religious axiom to you,

Nope, I have a hard science background.

Post by T
but the same as it is with me: fascinating scientific research. And
as such, open to debate, which is how the scientific process works.

Yes.

Post by T
If it is an Axiom to you, then please stop reading. It will offend.

Nothing offends me.

Post by T
Some mutations do seems to stick around.

Yes, particularly with the color of irises.
Not just in humans either, a few
dog breeds have striking blue eyes.

Blue means no melatonin or no color at all.
This will make a dog out in the sun a lot have issues

Post by T
You would expect to see a whole lot more of them.

No, there arent many that are so strikingly visible.
We do however see quite a bit of other stuff with
humans, particularly with hair color and texture.
And skin color too.

That is directly link to vitamin D. Were D is readily
available in the diet, skin color has remained dark.
The Eskimos, for instance.

Post by T
Actually, the field is rather fascinating. There are tons more
things to learn. The study of nature is NEVER finished. There
is always something new to be discovered and something old to be
debunked. Heat your coffee with any caloric lately?

I havent bothered with coffee for decades now. Or tea either.

I do like my tea.

Post by T
A google search will turn up several reputable articles on the
How Evolution Works
https://science.howstuffworks.com/life/evolution/evolution8.htm
    How does evolution add information to a genome to create
progressively more complicated organisms?
    How is evolution able to bring about drastic changes so quickly?
    How could the first living cell arise spontaneously to get
    evolution started?
By the way, both the above article and Comrade Shadow missed
epigenetic gene expression, which is not evolution.

Yes it is, everything is.

Post by T
Although evolution probably had a lot to do with creating the
mechanism.I commonly see folk confuse epigenetic gene expression for
evolution. There is so much see still have to learn. If we knew it
all, where would the fun be in that?

Agree with you on everything, except epigenetic expression.
It is not mutation (evolution). The keys and markers are there
or passed down from parent to child. The mechanism itself most
assuredly came from evolution.

Here is a fascinating paper on it:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epigenetics

A snippet:

Two important ways in which epigenetic inheritance can be
different from traditional genetic inheritance, with
important consequences for evolution, are that rates of
epimutation can be much faster than rates of mutation[101]
and the epimutations are more easily reversible.[102] In
plants, heritable DNA methylation mutations are 100.000 times
more likely to occur compared to DNA mutations.[103] An
epigenetically inherited element such as the PSI+ system can
act as a "stop-gap", good enough for short-term adaptation
that allows the lineage to survive for long enough for
mutation and/or recombination to genetically assimilate
the adaptive phenotypic change.[104] The existence of this
possibility increases the evolvability of a species.

Fascinating stuff.

Rod Speed

2018-11-12 01:09:47 UTC

And by the way, not all useless mutations should be removed. If they
do not hinder the population, they should stick around, but don't seem
to.

They do actually. That’s why we see some
of the more unusual eye colors in humans.
Mate of mine has bright yellow eyes, weird.

Hi Rod,
Yellow eyes can mean liver issues.

Not when it’s the iris that is bright yellow, where
most people are blue, brown or even green.
Another mate of mine is not quite so striking,
bit the color of his irises does change from
green to grey etc depending on his mood etc.

Post by T
Has he been thoroughly checked out by a doctor

No need when it’s the iris color.

Post by T
(maybe two, as ask any 10 the same thing and you will get 10 different
answers)?
Also, there is not a lot an allopath can do to help one's liver heal,
but traditional medicine has a lot.

Nope.

This is one of the holes in evolution

Nope.

I am presuming evolution is not a religious axiom to you,

Nope, I have a hard science background.

Post by T
but the same as it is with me: fascinating scientific research. And
as such, open to debate, which is how the scientific process works.

Yes.

Post by T
If it is an Axiom to you, then please stop reading. It will offend.

Nothing offends me.

Post by T
Some mutations do seems to stick around.

Yes, particularly with the color of irises.
Not just in humans either, a few
dog breeds have striking blue eyes.

Blue means no melatonin or no color at all.

Not with these brilliant blue eyes.

Post by T
This will make a dog out in the sun a lot have issues

No they don’t.

Post by T
You would expect to see a whole lot more of them.

No, there arent many that are so strikingly visible.
We do however see quite a bit of other stuff with
humans, particularly with hair color and texture.
And skin color too.

That is directly link to vitamin D. Were D is readily
available in the diet, skin color has remained dark.
The Eskimos, for instance.

Its much more complicated than that with black skin.

Post by T
Actually, the field is rather fascinating. There are tons more
things to learn. The study of nature is NEVER finished. There
is always something new to be discovered and something old to be
debunked. Heat your coffee with any caloric lately?

I havent bothered with coffee for decades now. Or tea either.

I do like my tea.

Post by T
A google search will turn up several reputable articles on the subject.
How Evolution Works
https://science.howstuffworks.com/life/evolution/evolution8.htm
How does evolution add information to a genome to create
progressively more complicated organisms?
How is evolution able to bring about drastic changes so quickly?
How could the first living cell arise spontaneously to get
evolution started?
By the way, both the above article and Comrade Shadow missed epigenetic
gene expression, which is not evolution.

Yes it is, everything is.

Post by T
Although evolution probably had a lot to do with creating the
mechanism.I commonly see folk confuse epigenetic gene expression for
evolution. There is so much see still have to learn. If we knew it
all, where would the fun be in that?

Agree with you on everything, except epigenetic expression.

None of what I was talking about is epigenetic expression
and the proof of that is that it breeds true.

Post by T
It is not mutation (evolution).

Fraid so, because it breeds true.

Post by T
The keys and markers are there or passed down from parent to child. The
mechanism itself most assuredly came from evolution.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epigenetics

That’s not a paper.

Post by T
Two important ways in which epigenetic inheritance can be
different from traditional genetic inheritance, with
important consequences for evolution, are that rates of
epimutation can be much faster than rates of mutation[101]
and the epimutations are more easily reversible.[102] In
plants, heritable DNA methylation mutations are 100.000 times
more likely to occur compared to DNA mutations.[103] An
epigenetically inherited element such as the PSI+ system can
act as a "stop-gap", good enough for short-term adaptation
that allows the lineage to survive for long enough for
mutation and/or recombination to genetically assimilate
the adaptive phenotypic change.[104] The existence of this
possibility increases the evolvability of a species.
Fascinating stuff.

2018-11-12 06:35:12 UTC

Post by T
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epigenetics

That’s not a paper.

Hi Rod,

We must have different definitions of what a paper
is. Did you even look at it?

Here is our definition:

https://www.wordnik.com/words/paper

A formal written composition intended to be published,
presented, or read aloud; a scholarly essay or treatise.

Meets every criteria I can find. And I thought it was very
well done considering some of the stuff on Wikipedia.

What is your definition?

-T

Rod Speed

2018-11-12 08:27:52 UTC

Post by T
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epigenetics

That’s not a paper.

We must have different definitions of what a paper is.

Yes, that’s not a paper, it’s a web site.

Did you even look at it?

Don’t need to to know its not a paper and not
relevant to someone who has bright yellow irises.
Just how many of you are there between those ears.

https://www.wordnik.com/words/paper
A formal written composition

Wikipedia isnt.

intended to be published, presented, or read aloud; a scholarly
essay or treatise.

Wikipedia isnt.

Meets every criteria I can find.

Then you need to look harder.

And I thought it was very well done considering some of the stuff on
Wikipedia.

Irrelevant to whether it’s a paper or not.

What is your definition?

I wasn’t the one claiming that is a paper.

The Peeler

2018-11-12 10:35:01 UTC

On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 19:27:52 +1100, cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rot

Post by T
https://www.wordnik.com/words/paper
A formal written composition

Wikipedia isnt.

It often is!

Post by T
intended to be published, presented, or read aloud; a scholarly
essay or treatise.

Wikipedia isnt.

It often is!

Post by T
Meets every criteria I can find.

Then you need to look harder.

Post by T
And I thought it was very well done considering some of the stuff on
Wikipedia.

Irrelevant to whether it’s a paper or not.

Post by T
What is your definition?

I wasn’t the one claiming that is a paper.

An even sillier troll than you usually manage, senile Rot, and that's saying
something!

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The Peeler

2018-11-12 10:30:26 UTC

On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 12:09:47 +1100, cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rot

Post by T
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epigenetics

That’s not a paper.

There is nothing more fascinating than watching your idiocy in real time,
senile Rot! LOL

--
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Shadow

2018-11-11 10:31:15 UTC

Post by T
Hi Rod,
Yellow eyes can mean liver issues.

No. He was referring to eye color, not the color of the
sclera.

Yellow eyes do not interfere with survival, so natural
selection would not apply here.
[]'s

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We have a new policy - Google 2012

2018-11-11 23:35:05 UTC

Post by T
Hi Rod,
Yellow eyes can mean liver issues.

No. He was referring to eye color, not the color of the
sclera.
Yellow eyes do not interfere with survival, so natural
selection would not apply here.
[]'s

A little bit. No color in the eyes (shows as blue) brings issues
when you have too much exposure to the sun. The mutation probably
came about where there is not a lot of sunlight. Also, sine
it would not kill you before you reproduced, it would not be
removed from the gene pool.

Rod Speed

2018-11-12 01:13:09 UTC

Post by T
Hi Rod,
Yellow eyes can mean liver issues.

No. He was referring to eye color, not the color of the
sclera.
Yellow eyes do not interfere with survival, so natural
selection would not apply here.
[]'s

A little bit. No color in the eyes (shows as blue)

Bright yellow eyes arent blue eyes.

Post by T
brings issues when you have too much exposure to the sun. The mutation
probably came about where there is not a lot of sunlight.

It didn’t, he's Italian.

Post by T
Also, sineit would not kill you before you reproduced, it would not be
removed from the gene pool.

The Peeler

2018-11-12 10:30:53 UTC

On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 12:13:09 +1100, cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rot

Post by Rod Speed
Bright yellow eyes arent blue eyes.

Aren't they? LMAO!

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Shadow

2018-11-12 12:58:05 UTC

Post by T
Hi Rod,
Yellow eyes can mean liver issues.

No. He was referring to eye color, not the color of the
sclera.
Yellow eyes do not interfere with survival, so natural
selection would not apply here.
[]'s

No, the mutation "came about" everywhere. It did not pose a
problem to populations that lived in places with little sunlight, but
it certainly was a selective factor in places like Africa.
Proof ? Blue, green or yellow eyes are almost absent in
genuine (pure) African populations.
[]'s

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Fruitiest of Fruitcakes

2018-11-11 11:26:13 UTC

And by the way, not all useless mutations should be removed. If they
do not hinder the population, they should stick around, but don't seem
to.

They do actually. That’s why we see some
of the more unusual eye colors in humans.
Mate of mine has bright yellow eyes, weird.

Hi Rod,
Yellow eyes can mean liver issues. Has he been thoroughly
checked out by a doctor (maybe two, as ask any 10 the same
thing and you will get 10 different answers)?
Also, there is not a lot an allopath can do to help one's
liver heal, but traditional medicine has a lot. A google
search will give them to you or ping me and I will dig up
what I remember.

I recommend Milk Thistle tablets.

Norman Wells

2018-11-11 11:36:32 UTC

Post by Fruitiest of Fruitcakes

And by the way, not all useless mutations should be removed. If they
do not hinder the population, they should stick around, but don't seem
to.

They do actually. That’s why we see some
of the more unusual eye colors in humans.
Mate of mine has bright yellow eyes, weird.

Hi Rod,
Yellow eyes can mean liver issues. Has he been thoroughly
checked out by a doctor (maybe two, as ask any 10 the same
thing and you will get 10 different answers)?
Also, there is not a lot an allopath can do to help one's
liver heal, but traditional medicine has a lot. A google
search will give them to you or ping me and I will dig up
what I remember.

I recommend Milk Thistle tablets.

There's no hope for you then.

2018-11-11 23:40:14 UTC

Post by Fruitiest of Fruitcakes

Post by Norman Wells

And by the way, not all useless mutations should be removed. If they
do not hinder the population, they should stick around, but don't seem
to.

They do actually. That’s why we see some
of the more unusual eye colors in humans.
Mate of mine has bright yellow eyes, weird.

Hi Rod,
Yellow eyes can mean liver issues. Has he been thoroughly
checked out by a doctor (maybe two, as ask any 10 the same
thing and you will get 10 different answers)?
Also, there is not a lot an allopath can do to help one's
liver heal, but traditional medicine has a lot. A google
search will give them to you or ping me and I will dig up
what I remember.

I recommend Milk Thistle tablets.

There's no hope for you then.

Fruitcake is correct about Milt Thistle (silymarin)

Milk Thistle (PDQ®) Health Professional Version
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK65780/

Laboratory studies demonstrate that silymarin stabilizes
cellular membranes, stimulates detoxification pathways,
stimulates regeneration of liver tissue, inhibits the
growth of certain cancer cell lines, exerts direct
cytotoxic activity toward certain cancer cell lines,
and possibly increases the efficacy of certain chemotherapy
agents.

There are bazillions of other references too.

Never give up hope!

2018-11-11 23:36:46 UTC

Post by Fruitiest of Fruitcakes

And by the way, not all useless mutations should be removed. If they
do not hinder the population, they should stick around, but don't seem
to.

They do actually. That’s why we see some
of the more unusual eye colors in humans.
Mate of mine has bright yellow eyes, weird.

Hi Rod,
Yellow eyes can mean liver issues. Has he been thoroughly
checked out by a doctor (maybe two, as ask any 10 the same
thing and you will get 10 different answers)?
Also, there is not a lot an allopath can do to help one's
liver heal, but traditional medicine has a lot. A google
search will give them to you or ping me and I will dig up
what I remember.

I recommend Milk Thistle tablets.

Dandelion root too. But I think he was referring
to the color of the eye, not the white of the eye.
That kind yellow will also show up a bit in your
skin as well

p-0''0-h the cat (coder)

2018-11-11 09:00:40 UTC

Post by T
Hell Quantum Physics has some holes in it too

Black ones?

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2018-11-11 10:35:48 UTC

On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 09:00:40 +0000, "p-0''0-h the cat (coder)"

Post by T
Hell Quantum Physics has some holes in it too

Black ones?

Lord forbid. His doG says anything black should be killed, or
preferably (so you don't break one of HIS rules), sterilized.
Read the new KKK TOS.
[]'s

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2018-11-11 23:47:48 UTC

Post by Shadow
On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 09:00:40 +0000, "p-0''0-h the cat (coder)"

Post by T
Hell Quantum Physics has some holes in it too

Black ones?

Lord forbid. His doG says anything black should be killed, or
preferably (so you don't break one of HIS rules), sterilized.
Read the new KKK TOS.
[]'s

Comrade,

Good for you. Right out of classic Soviet propaganda. Say
something completely absurd and repeat it until other start to
believe it.

Right wingers have nothing to do with racism. They and I
follow the teaching of one particular Republican Christian
Reverend by the name of Martin Luther King.

So here goes with my classic response when a Left Winger
hurts the racism insult at me:

"I do not have a single racist or bigoted bone in
my body. But you are an ass hole for calling me one"

How is the goose stepping coming alone. Still tripping
every so often?

-T

By the way, all the racism in my country comes from the Left.

Fruitiest of Fruitcakes

2018-11-11 11:27:38 UTC

Post by T
Hell Quantum Physics has some holes in it too

Black ones?
Sent from my iFurryUnderbelly.

They can only be called “holes of no colour” these days - or you will get
arrested.

abelard

2018-11-11 12:28:26 UTC

On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 11:27:38 +0000, Fruitiest of Fruitcakes

Post by T
Hell Quantum Physics has some holes in it too

Black ones?
Sent from my iFurryUnderbelly.

They can only be called holes of no colour these days - or you will get
arrested.

thanx for the heads-up...i could easily have been stumbled into
that one!

--
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2018-11-11 23:42:37 UTC

Post by T
Hell Quantum Physics has some holes in it too

Black ones?

Quantum physics do not explain gravity. For that
you have to go to string theory, which is wild and
weird.

It also does not explain why some particles only spin
in certain directions.

We have so very much more to learn. It is very fascinating.

p-0''0-h the cat (coder)

2018-11-11 23:53:25 UTC

Post by T
Hell Quantum Physics has some holes in it too

Black ones?

Quantum physics do not explain gravity. For that
you have to go to string theory, which is wild and
weird.

"Gravity is most accurately described by the general theory of
relativity (proposed by Albert Einstein in 1915) which describes gravity
not as a force, but as a consequence of the curvature of spacetime
caused by the uneven distribution of mass. The most extreme example of
this curvature of spacetime is a black hole, from which nothingnot even
lightcan escape once past the black hole's event horizon.[3] However,
for most applications, gravity is well approximated by Newton's law of
universal gravitation, which describes gravity as a force which causes
any two bodies to be attracted to each other, with the force
proportional to the product of their masses and inversely proportional
to the square of the distance between them. "

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity

"Despite major efforts, no complete and consistent theory of quantum
gravity is currently known"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_relativity#Relationship_with_quantum_theory

Shit the cat is working on it so watch this spacetime continuum!

Post by T
It also does not explain why some particles only spin
in certain directions.
We have so very much more to learn. It is very fascinating.

2018-11-12 00:12:04 UTC

Post by T
Hell Quantum Physics has some holes in it too

Black ones?

Quantum physics do not explain gravity. For that
you have to go to string theory, which is wild and
weird.

"Gravity is most accurately described by the general theory of
relativity (proposed by Albert Einstein in 1915) which describes gravity
not as a force, but as a consequence of the curvature of spacetime
caused by the uneven distribution of mass. The most extreme example of
this curvature of spacetime is a black hole, from which nothing—not even
light—can escape once past the black hole's event horizon.[3] However,
for most applications, gravity is well approximated by Newton's law of
universal gravitation, which describes gravity as a force which causes
any two bodies to be attracted to each other, with the force
proportional to the product of their masses and inversely proportional
to the square of the distance between them. "
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity
"Despite major efforts, no complete and consistent theory of quantum
gravity is currently known"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_relativity#Relationship_with_quantum_theory
Shit the cat is working on it so watch this spacetime continuum!

Post by T
It also does not explain why some particles only spin
in certain directions.
We have so very much more to learn. It is very fascinating.

Sent from my iFurryUnderbelly.

Well stated. Another of your letters I actually liked!

I can't wait for the light barrier to be broken. Ever
since the first human eye laid sight on the first star
in the sky, I do believe we were meant to go there.

Incubus

2018-11-12 11:10:27 UTC

Post by T
Hell Quantum Physics has some holes in it too

Black ones?

Quantum physics do not explain gravity. For that
you have to go to string theory, which is wild and
weird.

We must remember, it is a theory in the mathematical sense and not the
scientific sense.

Shadow

2018-11-11 10:27:20 UTC

Comrade,
Yes indeed. You actually open a science text book.
Baby steps.
And by the way, not all useless mutations should be removed.

"Should" ?

By your "God" ?

Oh sht, I'm arguing with a loony.
[]'s

Post by T
If they do not hinder the population, they should
stick around, but don't seem to. This is one of the holes
in evolution and why the field is so fascinating.
There are still so many things to be discovered.
Hell Quantum Physics has some holes in it too, like
gravity. Quantum Physics is hold on by several
bazillions strings.
-T

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2018-11-11 23:55:56 UTC

Comrade,
Yes indeed. You actually open a science text book.
Baby steps.
And by the way, not all useless mutations should be removed.

"Should" ?
By your "God" ?
Oh sht, I'm arguing with a loony.
[]'s

Comrade. Ahhh. Everyone has to believe what you believe
or they are loony. Even when you have no backing other
than Gleichschaltung for your viewpoint. Hmmmm. Aren't
you a bit "closed minded". Open debate is part of science.
Get over it.

Speaking of science, weren't' you commies the founders
of Lysenkoism? "dialectical materialism" ring any bells?

p-0''0-h the cat (coder)

2018-11-11 12:10:20 UTC

Post by T
Actual evolution takes a heck of a lot longer.

I think it's more accurate to say that evolution takes an infinitely
short amount of time because in reality it is happening all the time.

Anyhow, my qualifications are that I read a book by Richard Dawkins once
so like abelard I'm really, really smart with big pants.

Couple of what I found to be interesting points.

The randomness of mutation seems to fall within a pattern. It's not
random as in random all over the place but random within a subsection of
all possibilities. He illustrated this with a chart of shell shapes. No
cubic snails. Why? Perhaps we just can't see them. Dark snails. I can't
see snails. They move too slow for cats. Anyhow, this links to the whole
fractal, chaos theory, imaginary mathematics what have you. Quite why
these patterns exist I dunno. Perhaps doG is responsible.

Moving on. This idea that evolution is a gradual uniform process is at
best only a partial description of the process and at worst just plain
wrong. At the macro level it's more fits and starts. Large changes over
short periods of time and small changes over longer periods and maybe
vice versa.

Anyway, to visualise that take the introduction of myxomatosis into the
UK to control rabbit population. 99% of bunnies were killed by the first
outbreak but within 2 years the population had recovered and was of
course resistant. The evolution of resistant bunnies didn't stop there I
assume, and neither did the evolution of myxomatosis. Our learned
friends I hope will confirm this and continues today but at a less
dramatic rate.

Anyway, the point here is that even with mammals changes can happen
really quite quickly to changes in the environment.

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nothing burger from the slurpy wannabe....LOL

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:
: >Actual evolution takes a heck of a lot longer.
:
: I think it's more accurate to say that evolution takes an infinitely
: short amount of time because in reality it is happening all the time.
:
: Anyhow, my qualifications are that I read a book by Richard Dawkins once
: so like abelard I'm really, really smart with big pants.
:
: Couple of what I found to be interesting points.
:
: The randomness of mutation seems to fall within a pattern. It's not
: random as in random all over the place but random within a subsection of
: all possibilities. He illustrated this with a chart of shell shapes. No
: cubic snails. Why? Perhaps we just can't see them. Dark snails. I can't
: see snails. They move too slow for cats. Anyhow, this links to the whole
: fractal, chaos theory, imaginary mathematics what have you. Quite why
: these patterns exist I dunno. Perhaps doG is responsible.
:
: Moving on. This idea that evolution is a gradual uniform process is at
: best only a partial description of the process and at worst just plain
: wrong. At the macro level it's more fits and starts. Large changes over
: short periods of time and small changes over longer periods and maybe
: vice versa.
:
: Anyway, to visualise that take the introduction of myxomatosis into the
: UK to control rabbit population. 99% of bunnies were killed by the first
: outbreak but within 2 years the population had recovered and was of
: course resistant. The evolution of resistant bunnies didn't stop there I
: assume, and neither did the evolution of myxomatosis. Our learned
: friends I hope will confirm this and continues today but at a less
: dramatic rate.
:
: Anyway, the point here is that even with mammals changes can happen
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On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 07:20:26 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"

Post by BurfordTJustice
nothing burger from the slurpy wannabe....LOL

Bouffy, living proof that evolution isn't a one step forward process.

Post by BurfordTJustice
: >Actual evolution takes a heck of a lot longer.
: I think it's more accurate to say that evolution takes an infinitely
: short amount of time because in reality it is happening all the time.
: Anyhow, my qualifications are that I read a book by Richard Dawkins once
: so like abelard I'm really, really smart with big pants.
: Couple of what I found to be interesting points.
: The randomness of mutation seems to fall within a pattern. It's not
: random as in random all over the place but random within a subsection of
: all possibilities. He illustrated this with a chart of shell shapes. No
: cubic snails. Why? Perhaps we just can't see them. Dark snails. I can't
: see snails. They move too slow for cats. Anyhow, this links to the whole
: fractal, chaos theory, imaginary mathematics what have you. Quite why
: these patterns exist I dunno. Perhaps doG is responsible.
: Moving on. This idea that evolution is a gradual uniform process is at
: best only a partial description of the process and at worst just plain
: wrong. At the macro level it's more fits and starts. Large changes over
: short periods of time and small changes over longer periods and maybe
: vice versa.
: Anyway, to visualise that take the introduction of myxomatosis into the
: UK to control rabbit population. 99% of bunnies were killed by the first
: outbreak but within 2 years the population had recovered and was of
: course resistant. The evolution of resistant bunnies didn't stop there I
: assume, and neither did the evolution of myxomatosis. Our learned
: friends I hope will confirm this and continues today but at a less
: dramatic rate.
: Anyway, the point here is that even with mammals changes can happen
: really quite quickly to changes in the environment.
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2018-11-11 12:31:41 UTC

nothing burgers continue.

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: >nothing burger from the slurpy wannabe....LOL
:
: Bouffy, living proof that evolution isn't a one step forward process.
:
:
: >"p-0''0-h the cat (coder)" <***@fluffyunderbelly.invalid> wrote in
: >message news:***@4ax.com...
: >: On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 18:38:44 -0800, T <***@invalid.invalid> wrote:
: >:
: >: >Actual evolution takes a heck of a lot longer.
: >:
: >: I think it's more accurate to say that evolution takes an infinitely
: >: short amount of time because in reality it is happening all the time.
: >:
: >: Anyhow, my qualifications are that I read a book by Richard Dawkins
once
: >: so like abelard I'm really, really smart with big pants.
: >:
: >: Couple of what I found to be interesting points.
: >:
: >: The randomness of mutation seems to fall within a pattern. It's not
: >: random as in random all over the place but random within a subsection
of
: >: all possibilities. He illustrated this with a chart of shell shapes. No
: >: cubic snails. Why? Perhaps we just can't see them. Dark snails. I can't
: >: see snails. They move too slow for cats. Anyhow, this links to the
whole
: >: fractal, chaos theory, imaginary mathematics what have you. Quite why
: >: these patterns exist I dunno. Perhaps doG is responsible.
: >:
: >: Moving on. This idea that evolution is a gradual uniform process is at
: >: best only a partial description of the process and at worst just plain
: >: wrong. At the macro level it's more fits and starts. Large changes over
: >: short periods of time and small changes over longer periods and maybe
: >: vice versa.
: >:
: >: Anyway, to visualise that take the introduction of myxomatosis into the
: >: UK to control rabbit population. 99% of bunnies were killed by the
first
: >: outbreak but within 2 years the population had recovered and was of
: >: course resistant. The evolution of resistant bunnies didn't stop there
I
: >: assume, and neither did the evolution of myxomatosis. Our learned
: >: friends I hope will confirm this and continues today but at a less
: >: dramatic rate.
: >:
: >: Anyway, the point here is that even with mammals changes can happen
: >: really quite quickly to changes in the environment.
: >:
: >: Sent from my iFurryUnderbelly.
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2018-11-11 12:27:11 UTC

On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 12:10:20 +0000, "p-0''0-h the cat (coder)"

Post by T
Actual evolution takes a heck of a lot longer.

i've read 2 of them!...and i still think he's a populariser

Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
Couple of what I found to be interesting points.
The randomness of mutation seems to fall within a pattern. It's not
random as in random all over the place but random within a subsection of
all possibilities. He illustrated this with a chart of shell shapes. No
cubic snails. Why? Perhaps we just can't see them. Dark snails. I can't
see snails. They move too slow for cats. Anyhow, this links to the whole
fractal, chaos theory, imaginary mathematics what have you. Quite why
these patterns exist I dunno. Perhaps doG is responsible.

does it link to the ouija board?

what about tac?

how much longer than short is long?

Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
Anyway, to visualise that take the introduction of myxomatosis into the
UK to control rabbit population. 99% of bunnies were killed by the first
outbreak but within 2 years the population had recovered and was of
course resistant. The evolution of resistant bunnies didn't stop there I
assume, and neither did the evolution of myxomatosis. Our learned
friends I hope will confirm this and continues today but at a less
dramatic rate.
Anyway, the point here is that even with mammals changes can happen
really quite quickly to changes in the environment.

how quickly is quite quickly?

are newton's 'laws' of motion inherited?

i want to know thee things!

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2018-11-11 12:52:55 UTC

Post by abelard
On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 12:10:20 +0000, "p-0''0-h the cat (coder)"

Post by T
Actual evolution takes a heck of a lot longer.

i've read 2 of them!...and i still think he's a populariser

Well you must have enjoyed the first one abelard otherwise why did you
get down and dirty and go for second helpings. You're a slut to the
pleasure principle. Frankly, you told us you were better than this.

does it link to the ouija board?

I don't think so. I'm not really very familiar with the ouija board.
Quite what this attempt at mockery is all about I dunno. The mathematics
I referenced produced patterns that resemble structures in nature, they
also partly explain how simple codes in stuff like DNA can build complex
structures. Seems a reasonable point I made.

Post by abelard
what about tac?

What is tac? Tic-tac-toe? Please say no. I had such hopes for you.

how much longer than short is long?

For you, anything over 4 inches.

how quickly is quite quickly?
are newton's 'laws' of motion inherited?
i want to know thee things!

Lay off the MSG <sigh>

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2018-11-11 13:00:53 UTC

typical socialist nothing burger dodge.

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: wrote:
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: >On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 12:10:20 +0000, "p-0''0-h the cat (coder)"
: ><***@fluffyunderbelly.invalid> wrote:
: >
: >>On Fri, 9 Nov 2018 18:38:44 -0800, T <***@invalid.invalid> wrote:
: >>
: >>>Actual evolution takes a heck of a lot longer.
: >>
: >>I think it's more accurate to say that evolution takes an infinitely
: >>short amount of time because in reality it is happening all the time.
: >>
: >>Anyhow, my qualifications are that I read a book by Richard Dawkins once
: >>so like abelard I'm really, really smart with big pants.
: >
: >i've read 2 of them!...and i still think he's a populariser
:
: Well you must have enjoyed the first one abelard otherwise why did you
: get down and dirty and go for second helpings. You're a slut to the
: pleasure principle. Frankly, you told us you were better than this.
:
:
: >>Couple of what I found to be interesting points.
: >>
: >>The randomness of mutation seems to fall within a pattern. It's not
: >>random as in random all over the place but random within a subsection of
: >>all possibilities. He illustrated this with a chart of shell shapes. No
: >>cubic snails. Why? Perhaps we just can't see them. Dark snails. I can't
: >>see snails. They move too slow for cats. Anyhow, this links to the whole
: >>fractal, chaos theory, imaginary mathematics what have you. Quite why
: >>these patterns exist I dunno. Perhaps doG is responsible.
: >
: >does it link to the ouija board?
:
: I don't think so. I'm not really very familiar with the ouija board.
: Quite what this attempt at mockery is all about I dunno. The mathematics
: I referenced produced patterns that resemble structures in nature, they
: also partly explain how simple codes in stuff like DNA can build complex
: structures. Seems a reasonable point I made.
:
: >what about tac?
:
: What is tac? Tic-tac-toe? Please say no. I had such hopes for you.
:
:
: >>Moving on. This idea that evolution is a gradual uniform process is at
: >>best only a partial description of the process and at worst just plain
: >>wrong. At the macro level it's more fits and starts. Large changes over
: >>short periods of time and small changes over longer periods and maybe
: >>vice versa.
: >
: >how much longer than short is long?
:
: For you, anything over 4 inches.
:
: >>Anyway, to visualise that take the introduction of myxomatosis into the
: >>UK to control rabbit population. 99% of bunnies were killed by the first
: >>outbreak but within 2 years the population had recovered and was of
: >>course resistant. The evolution of resistant bunnies didn't stop there I
: >>assume, and neither did the evolution of myxomatosis. Our learned
: >>friends I hope will confirm this and continues today but at a less
: >>dramatic rate.
: >>
: >>Anyway, the point here is that even with mammals changes can happen
: >>really quite quickly to changes in the environment.
: >
: >how quickly is quite quickly?
: >
: >are newton's 'laws' of motion inherited?
: >
: >i want to know thee things!
:
: Lay off the MSG <sigh>
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Shadow

2018-11-11 13:15:10 UTC

On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 08:00:53 -0500, "Bouffant du Jour"

Post by BurfordTJustice
typical socialist nothing burger dodge.

The social parasite changed the subject.
Obese farmer-dole LUSER !!!
WORD!!!!

Just imagining the Bouffant discussing something as simple as
Evolution vs creationism makes me LOL.
[]'s

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BurfordTJustice

2018-11-11 18:32:10 UTC

nothing burger from the murderer.

"Shadow" <***@dow.br> wrote in message news:***@4ax.com...
: On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 08:00:53 -0500, "Bouffant du Jour"
: <burford/***@uk.MI15> tried to think, farted with the effort,
: gave up and squeaked:
:
: >typical socialist nothing burger dodge.
:
: The social parasite changed the subject.
: Obese farmer-dole LUSER !!!
: WORD!!!!
:
: Just imagining the Bouffant discussing something as simple as
: Evolution vs creationism makes me LOL.
: []'s
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abelard

2018-11-11 13:01:38 UTC

On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 12:52:55 +0000, "p-0''0-h the cat (coder)"

Post by abelard
On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 12:10:20 +0000, "p-0''0-h the cat (coder)"

Post by T
Actual evolution takes a heck of a lot longer.

i've read 2 of them!...and i still think he's a populariser

most of his 'books' after the first were potboilers

'mount improbable' had some useful bits on evolutionary programming...
prob from his students

does it link to the ouija board?

Post by abelard
what about tac?

What is tac? Tic-tac-toe? Please say no. I had such hopes for you.

the great tac in the sky...not all of us fear the dog

how much longer than short is long?

For you, anything over 4 inches.

how quickly is quite quickly?
are newton's 'laws' of motion inherited?
i want to know thee things!

Lay off the MSG <sigh>

not all of us favour mushrooms

--
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2018-11-12 00:02:49 UTC

Post by T
Actual evolution takes a heck of a lot longer.

That pattern thing you note is fascinating and I have heard
about it before. The real stickler is that we can only speculate
as we have not been around to take notes of what did and did
not work. Fossil evidence can be very spotty. (Me thinks a lot
of paleontologists have painful ears from pulling things out
of them.)

Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
Moving on. This idea that evolution is a gradual uniform process is at
best only a partial description of the process and at worst just plain
wrong. At the macro level it's more fits and starts. Large changes over
short periods of time and small changes over longer periods and maybe
vice versa.
Anyway, to visualise that take the introduction of myxomatosis into the
UK to control rabbit population. 99% of bunnies were killed by the first
outbreak but within 2 years the population had recovered and was of
course resistant. The evolution of resistant bunnies didn't stop there I
assume, and neither did the evolution of myxomatosis. Our learned
friends I hope will confirm this and continues today but at a less
dramatic rate.

Means the resistance was already there in some of the bunnies, not
that a tantalous mutation that a occurred.

Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
Anyway, the point here is that even with mammals changes can happen
really quite quickly to changes in the environment.

It is a fascinating area of research indeed.

My point about the speed is that is is not in periods of
days or hours, but many years. Epigenitic are often mistaken
for mutations too.

I am saving your letter to go back and read again. It was
very well done.

2018-11-12 08:15:33 UTC

This is not evolution but selection and the beauty of genetic diversity.

Same thing happened with humans and the plague.

In Africa, the Cheetah are all clones of each other. There is no
diversity. This is frightening as the cheetah is one virus away
from extinction.

Rod Speed

2018-11-12 09:08:37 UTC

This is not evolution but selection

Wrong.

Post by T
and the beauty of genetic diversity.
Same thing happened with humans and the plague.

Wrong.

Post by T
In Africa, the Cheetah are all clones of each other.

Wrong.

Post by T
There is no diversity.

Wrong.

Post by T
This is frightening as the cheetah is one virus away from extinction.

Wrong. No virus wipes out all individuals.

The Peeler

2018-11-12 10:36:55 UTC

On Mon, 12 Nov 2018 20:08:37 +1100, cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rot

This is not evolution but selection

Wrong.

Post by T
and the beauty of genetic diversity.
Same thing happened with humans and the plague.

Wrong.

Post by T
In Africa, the Cheetah are all clones of each other.

Wrong.

Post by T
There is no diversity.

Wrong.

Post by T
This is frightening as the cheetah is one virus away from extinction.

Wrong. No virus wipes out all individuals.

Did you manage to climax finally after all that auto-contradictiong, you
ridiculous pathological "auto-contradictor"? LOL

--
Kerr-Mudd,John addressing senile Rot:
"Auto-contradictor Rod is back! (in the KF)"
MID: <***@85.214.115.223>

abelard

2018-11-08 15:49:26 UTC

On Thu, 08 Nov 2018 14:47:46 +0000, "p-0''0-h the cat (coder)"

Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
On Thu, 8 Nov 2018 08:03:09 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"

Post by BurfordTJustice
What Is the Probability of Life?

You cannot prove evolution dimwit that's why it's called a theory.

it is certainly a useful system of classification

what do you mean by 'theory'? is 'creationism' also
a theory?
many find it a useful system of classification...and for
a wider area of phenomena...or would you run off
at the mouth about that?

Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
If
you want to prove creationism show me the evidence. Or are you just
running your mouth?

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p-0''0-h the cat (coder)

2018-11-08 18:18:42 UTC

Post by Shadow
On Thu, 08 Nov 2018 14:47:46 +0000, "p-0''0-h the cat (coder)"

Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
On Thu, 8 Nov 2018 08:03:09 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"

Post by BurfordTJustice
What Is the Probability of Life?

You cannot prove evolution dimwit that's why it's called a theory.

it is certainly a useful system of classification

Er, yeah, the hinglish got my pussy brain confused there. Evolution is a
process and you can classify species and theorize how they evolved or
came to be through evolution in a nice little chart which I agree is
useful. Evolution isn't a system of classification though.

Post by Shadow
what do you mean by 'theory'? is 'creationism' also
a theory?

'creationism' in my pussy brain just translates to cretinism. I think my
brain just evolved to flush stupid shit. In short no it's not a theory.

A theory is where you cannot abosolutely prove something like how the
eye came into being but as Shadow pointed out we do have supporting
evidence that creatures do change and that natural selection is a viable
mechanism for the survival and propagation of those characteristics
which changed. However, evolution is a big bunny and it's far from a
clear path and the process from chemical soup to Bouffy has taken a very
long time so you cannot set up a few test tubes and repeat the
experiment as you can with a scientific fact.

Post by Shadow
many find it a useful system of classification...

Many find astrology a useful system of classification as well, I'm sure.
Do you read tea leaves? I like chasing leaves. I classify them as wizzy
or swirly. It's not quite good and evil more Bill and Ben.

Anyway, moving on.

Post by Shadow
and for
a wider area of phenomena...or would you run off
at the mouth about that?

I most certainly would. The God squad love to waste my time and bend my
ears and a whole host of other more sinister shit so in the spirit of
'fuck em', I say fuck em.

Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
If
you want to prove creationism show me the evidence. Or are you just
running your mouth?

Bod

2018-11-08 18:20:35 UTC

Post by Shadow
On Thu, 08 Nov 2018 14:47:46 +0000, "p-0''0-h the cat (coder)"

Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
On Thu, 8 Nov 2018 08:03:09 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"

Post by BurfordTJustice
What Is the Probability of Life?

You cannot prove evolution dimwit that's why it's called a theory.

it is certainly a useful system of classification

Post by Shadow
what do you mean by 'theory'? is 'creationism' also
a theory?

'creationism' in my pussy brain just translates to cretinism. I think my
brain just evolved to flush stupid shit. In short no it's not a theory.
A theory is where you cannot abosolutely prove something like how the
eye came into being but as Shadow pointed out we do have supporting
evidence that creatures do change and that natural selection is a viable
mechanism for the survival and propagation of those characteristics
which changed. However, evolution is a big bunny and it's far from a
clear path and the process from chemical soup to Bouffy has taken a very
long time so you cannot set up a few test tubes and repeat the
experiment as you can with a scientific fact.

Post by Shadow
many find it a useful system of classification...

Post by Shadow
and for
a wider area of phenomena...or would you run off
at the mouth about that?

I most certainly would. The God squad love to waste my time and bend my
ears and a whole host of other more sinister shit so in the spirit of
'fuck em', I say fuck em.

Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
If
you want to prove creationism show me the evidence. Or are you just
running your mouth?

Sent from my iFurryUnderbelly.
Creationism is simply a belief.

--
Bod

BurfordTJustice

2018-11-08 20:31:16 UTC

says the dope smoker...LOL

"Bod" <***@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:***@mid.individual.net...
: On 08/11/2018 18:18, p-0''0-h the cat (coder) wrote:
: > On Thu, 08 Nov 2018 16:49:26 +0100, abelard <***@abelard.org>
: > wrote:
: >
: >> On Thu, 08 Nov 2018 14:47:46 +0000, "p-0''0-h the cat (coder)"
: >> <***@fluffyunderbelly.invalid> wrote:
: >>
: >>> On Thu, 8 Nov 2018 08:03:09 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"
: >>> <burford/***@uk.MI15> wrote:
: >>>
: >>>> What Is the Probability of Life?
: >>>
: >>> You cannot prove evolution dimwit that's why it's called a theory.
: >>
: >> it is certainly a useful system of classification
: >
: > Er, yeah, the hinglish got my pussy brain confused there. Evolution is a
: > process and you can classify species and theorize how they evolved or
: > came to be through evolution in a nice little chart which I agree is
: > useful. Evolution isn't a system of classification though.
: >
: >
: >> what do you mean by 'theory'? is 'creationism' also
: >> a theory?
: >
: > 'creationism' in my pussy brain just translates to cretinism. I think my
: > brain just evolved to flush stupid shit. In short no it's not a theory.
: >
: > A theory is where you cannot abosolutely prove something like how the
: > eye came into being but as Shadow pointed out we do have supporting
: > evidence that creatures do change and that natural selection is a viable
: > mechanism for the survival and propagation of those characteristics
: > which changed. However, evolution is a big bunny and it's far from a
: > clear path and the process from chemical soup to Bouffy has taken a very
: > long time so you cannot set up a few test tubes and repeat the
: > experiment as you can with a scientific fact.
: >
: >> many find it a useful system of classification...
: >
: > Many find astrology a useful system of classification as well, I'm sure.
: > Do you read tea leaves? I like chasing leaves. I classify them as wizzy
: > or swirly. It's not quite good and evil more Bill and Ben.
: >
: > Anyway, moving on.
: >
: >> and for
: >> a wider area of phenomena...or would you run off
: >> at the mouth about that?
: >
: > I most certainly would. The God squad love to waste my time and bend my
: > ears and a whole host of other more sinister shit so in the spirit of
: > 'fuck em', I say fuck em.
: >
: >>> If
: >>> you want to prove creationism show me the evidence. Or are you just
: >>> running your mouth?
: >
: > Sent from my iFurryUnderbelly.
: >
: > Creationism is simply a belief.
:
: --
: Bod

abelard

2018-11-08 18:34:17 UTC

On Thu, 08 Nov 2018 18:18:42 +0000, "p-0''0-h the cat (coder)"

Post by Shadow
On Thu, 08 Nov 2018 14:47:46 +0000, "p-0''0-h the cat (coder)"

Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
On Thu, 8 Nov 2018 08:03:09 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"

Post by BurfordTJustice
What Is the Probability of Life?

You cannot prove evolution dimwit that's why it's called a theory.

it is certainly a useful system of classification

ok by that felidae familiaris

Post by Shadow
what do you mean by 'theory'? is 'creationism' also
a theory?

'creationism' in my pussy brain just translates to cretinism.

that's a trouble with limited storage

Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
I think my
brain just evolved to flush stupid shit. In short no it's not a theory.
A theory is where you cannot abosolutely prove something

do you believe there is anything the you can 'really prove'?

Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
like how the
eye came into being but as Shadow pointed out we do have supporting
evidence that creatures do change and that natural selection is a viable
mechanism for the survival and propagation of those characteristics
which changed. However, evolution is a big bunny and it's far from a
clear path and the process from chemical soup to Bouffy has taken a very
long time so you cannot set up a few test tubes and repeat the
experiment as you can with a scientific fact.

what is one of those?

Post by Shadow
many find it a useful system of classification...

Many find astrology a useful system of classification as well, I'm sure.

indeed they do

Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
Do you read tea leaves? I like chasing leaves. I classify them as wizzy
or swirly. It's not quite good and evil more Bill and Ben.
Anyway, moving on.

Post by Shadow
and for
a wider area of phenomena...or would you run off
at the mouth about that?

I most certainly would. The God squad love to waste my time and bend my
ears and a whole host of other more sinister shit so in the spirit of
'fuck em', I say fuck em.

your ears are evolutionarily more or less permanently stuck up

Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
If
you want to prove creationism show me the evidence. Or are you just
running your mouth?

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p-0''0-h the cat (coder)

2018-11-08 18:45:36 UTC

Post by abelard
On Thu, 08 Nov 2018 18:18:42 +0000, "p-0''0-h the cat (coder)"

Post by Shadow
On Thu, 08 Nov 2018 14:47:46 +0000, "p-0''0-h the cat (coder)"

Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
On Thu, 8 Nov 2018 08:03:09 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"

Post by BurfordTJustice
What Is the Probability of Life?

You cannot prove evolution dimwit that's why it's called a theory.

it is certainly a useful system of classification

ok by that felidae familiaris

Post by Shadow
what do you mean by 'theory'? is 'creationism' also
a theory?

'creationism' in my pussy brain just translates to cretinism.

that's a trouble with limited storage

Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
I think my
brain just evolved to flush stupid shit. In short no it's not a theory.
A theory is where you cannot abosolutely prove something

do you believe there is anything the you can 'really prove'?

Practically yes. Philosophically no.

what is one of those?

What it says on Wikipedia. I told ya. I don't do Humpty Dumpty.

Anyway, basically it's something repeatable.

Post by Shadow
many find it a useful system of classification...

Many find astrology a useful system of classification as well, I'm sure.

indeed they do

Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
Do you read tea leaves? I like chasing leaves. I classify them as wizzy
or swirly. It's not quite good and evil more Bill and Ben.
Anyway, moving on.

Post by Shadow
and for
a wider area of phenomena...or would you run off
at the mouth about that?

I most certainly would. The God squad love to waste my time and bend my
ears and a whole host of other more sinister shit so in the spirit of
'fuck em', I say fuck em.

your ears are evolutionarily more or less permanently stuck up

Top secret repeable scientific fact: Most cats can do the swing wing.

Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
If
you want to prove creationism show me the evidence. Or are you just
running your mouth?

abelard

2018-11-08 19:45:10 UTC

On Thu, 08 Nov 2018 18:45:36 +0000, "p-0''0-h the cat (coder)"

Post by abelard
On Thu, 08 Nov 2018 18:18:42 +0000, "p-0''0-h the cat (coder)"

Post by Shadow
On Thu, 08 Nov 2018 14:47:46 +0000, "p-0''0-h the cat (coder)"

Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
On Thu, 8 Nov 2018 08:03:09 -0500, "BurfordTJustice"

Post by BurfordTJustice
What Is the Probability of Life?

You cannot prove evolution dimwit that's why it's called a theory.

it is certainly a useful system of classification

ok by that felidae familiaris

Post by Shadow
what do you mean by 'theory'? is 'creationism' also
a theory?

'creationism' in my pussy brain just translates to cretinism.

that's a trouble with limited storage

Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
I think my
brain just evolved to flush stupid shit. In short no it's not a theory.
A theory is where you cannot abosolutely prove something

do you believe there is anything the you can 'really prove'?

Practically yes. Philosophically no.

what is one of those?

What it says on Wikipedia. I told ya. I don't do Humpty Dumpty.
Anyway, basically it's something repeatable.

Post by Shadow
many find it a useful system of classification...

Many find astrology a useful system of classification as well, I'm sure.

indeed they do

Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
Do you read tea leaves? I like chasing leaves. I classify them as wizzy
or swirly. It's not quite good and evil more Bill and Ben.
Anyway, moving on.

Post by Shadow
and for
a wider area of phenomena...or would you run off
at the mouth about that?

I most certainly would. The God squad love to waste my time and bend my
ears and a whole host of other more sinister shit so in the spirit of
'fuck em', I say fuck em.

your ears are evolutionarily more or less permanently stuck up

Top secret repeable scientific fact: Most cats can do the swing wing.

Post by p-0''0-h the cat (coder)
If
you want to prove creationism show me the evidence. Or are you just
running your mouth?

--
www.abelard.org

BurfordTJustice

2018-11-08 20:30:18 UTC