It is described in the Bible that the Magi (aka
powerful ones)
traveled about 5000 miles (2 years x 7 miles/day)
from the very far
East (i.e. China) to bring the 2 yo LORD Jesus, Who
was residing in a
house in Bethlehem, "gifts of gold, frankincense and
myrrh" (Matthew 2:11)
No it doesn't.
Actually it is as described.
<begin Holy Spirit-guided exegesis>
"When Herod realized that he had been outwitted by the
Magi, he was
furious, and he gave orders to kill all the boys in
Bethlehem and its
vicinity who were two years old and under, in
accordance with the time
he had learned from the Magi." (Matthew 2:16)
The two years was possibly (Matthew 19:26) spent on the
Silk Road
which is known to have been in use to carry silk from
China to Rome at
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Silk-Road-trade-route
Distance as the crow flies west from Shanghai to
Jerusalem is 4927.5
miles which would be consistent with "about 5000 miles"
by the Silk Road.
https://www.freemaptools.com/how-far-is-it-between-jerusalem_-israel-and-shanghai_-china.htm
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/A1X0vJ6wDa8/0ETlPkNFAQAJ
In the interim, I am simply wonderfully hungry (
http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) and hope you, JW, also
have a healthy appetite too.
So how are you ?
Matthew only describes that an unknown number of wise
guys ...
The number of Magi is irrelevant here as is their gender.
Moreover, Matthew not knowing their gender is consistent
with their
being very unlike the Persians (i.e. from northern Iraq
or Iran) whom
the Jews would have been able to recognize so as to also
recognize their gender.
KJV translates the word for them as "wise men".
Clearly a mistranslation because the context of asking
old King Herod
of Israel the whereabouts of the new King of Israel was not
wise.
Matthew doesn't
present a physical description or a cultural description
that would
lead to the conclusions you present about them.
Matthew used the genderless word Magi in reference to
them. This does
mean that he did not know either their gender or their
ethnicity. This
lack of knowledge would be consistent with the Magi being
Chinese.
"The Magi are Chinese." -- Holy Spirit (referring to
Matthew 2:16)
Taking your continued interest here to mean "yes, you
have a healthy
appetite," I share with you, JW, that it's really
Wonderful (Isaiah
9:6) knowing through our hunger (Deuteronomy 8:3) that
we're both
being blessed right now as it's written in the Gospels in
red&white at
Luke 6:21 **and** according to pure logic
(healthy=wonderful &
appetite=hunger) and advise that you try to write that
you're
So now how are you ?
I am nonplussed ...
Again, I advise that you, JW, really try to write that
you're
So now again, how are you ?
I've made my point, you want to belabor it and put words in
my mouth, as well as Matthew's pen, so I am done.
Dr. Chung is only trying to save your soul, JW. Have some
respect, will ya?
How does falsely claiming the New Testament says the Wise Guys
came from China when the Good Book says no such thing bring me
closer to salvation?
Does Chung claim the three wise men were from China? LOL.
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/A1X0vJ6wDa8/M-gQek1AAgAJ
No. The Magi were **not** three wise men.
That's exactly his position.
No it is not.
See above.
Quoting from above, he wrote, "It is
described in the Bible that the Magi ... traveled about 5000 miles
(2 years x 7 miles/day) from the very far East (i.e. China)".
Nothing about the Magi being three wise men in what you quote.
Well, I guess it's remotely possible. The Bible just says they're
from the east.
Actually what is described in the Bible is that they'd travelled two
years from the East.
That's my point. He's presenting his own conjecture as biblical
fact.
It remains a Biblical fact that what is described in the Bible is that
the Magi travelled two years from the East.
Then he's lying even about the Bible.
LIE.
To lie before those of us who are wonderfully hungry (
http://bit.ly/Philippians_12 ) in the Holy Spirit, Who causes
(Deuteronomy 8:3) us to hunger, is to blaspheme (Mark 3:29) against Him,
Who He is the Spirit of truth.
You, Ted, are now eternally condemned.
You would have been better off had you never been born b/c you will now
be cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD more than ever.
While http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry (Philippians 4:12) in the Holy
Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
6:21a), I pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse (Jeremiah
17:5) you, Ted, more than ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth.
Amen.
Laus DEO !!!
Link to post explicating vainjangling by the eternally condemned:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/-xLGqnNjAAAJ
"Like a moth to flame, the eternally condemned tragically return to be
ever more cursed by GOD."
Behold in wide-eyed wonder and amazement at the continued fulfillment of
this prophecy as clearly demonstrated within the following USENET threads:
(1) Link to thread titled "LORD Jesus Christ of Nazareth is our #1
Example of being wonderfully hungry;"
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI%5B1-25%5D
(2) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry;"
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M
(3) Link to thread titled "A very very very simple definition of sin;"
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/xunFWhan_AM
(4) Link to thread titled "The LORD says 'Blessed are you who hunger now;'"
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM
(5) Link to thread titled "Being wonderfully hungry like LORD Jesus;"
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/xPY1Uzl-ZNk/QeKLDNCpCwAJ
... for the continued benefit (Romans 8:28) of those of us who are
http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry like GOD ( http://bit.ly/Lk2442 ) with
all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to the LORD.
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/pIZcsOCJBwAJ
Laus DEO !
While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
6:21a), I pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse (Jeremiah
17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more than ever in
the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.
Laus DEO ! ! !
Bottom line:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/O23NguTslhI/h5lE-mr0DAAJ
<begin trichotomy>
(1) Born-again (John 3:3 & 5) humans - Folks who have GOD's Help (i.e.
Holy Spirit) to stop (John 5:14) sinning by being
http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungry (Philippians 4:12) **but** are still
able to choose via their own "free will" to be instead
http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) trapped in the
entangling (Hebrews 12:1) deadly (i.e. killed immortals Adam&Eve) sin
of gluttony (Proverbs 23:2).
(2) Eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) humans - Folks who will never have
GOD's Help (i.e. Holy Spirit) to stop being
http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) as evident by their
constant vainjangling (1 Timothy 1:6) about everything except how to
stop (John 5:14) sinning.
(3) Perishing humans - The remaining folks who may possibly (Matthew
19:26) become born-again (John 3:3 & 5) as new (2 Corinthians 5:17)
creatures in Christ.
<end trichotomy>
Suggested further reading:
http://T3WiJ.com
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Subject: The LORD says "Blessed are you who hunger now ..."
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/e4sW8dr44rM/NSkTJxvFBAAJ
Shame on andrew, look at his red face.
LIE.
The color of my face in **not** visible here on USENET nor is the color
of my face red for those who can see me.
'14 Bible verses about Spiritual Hunger'
Such are the lies coming from the lying pens of the
http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (Genesis 25:32) commentators.
That which is "spiritual" is independent of time so that there would've
been no reference to "now."
Therefore, the LORD is referring to physical hunger here instead of the
spiritual "hunger and thirst for righteousness" elsewhere in Scripture.
Indeed, physical hunger can **not** coexist with physical thirst because
the latter results in the loss of saliva needed for physical hunger.
It is when we hunger for food "now" (Luke 6:21a) that we are able to eat
food "now."
No such time constraints exist for "spiritual hunger."
Moreover, the perspective of Luke 6:21a through the eyes of a physician
(i.e. Dr. Luke) would be logically expected to be physical instead of
spiritual.
All glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD for His compelling you to
unwittingly demonstrate your ever worsening cognitive condition which is
tragically a consequence of His cursing (Jeremiah 17:5) you more than ever.
Laus DEO !
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someone eternally condemned & ever more cursed by GOD perseverated:
(in a vain attempt to refute posts about being wonderfully hungry)
Psalms
open thy mouth wide, and I will fill it.
Indeed, receiving a mouthful (Psalm 81:10) of manna from GOD will only
make His http://HeartMDPhD.com/Redeemed want even more, so that we're
even http://bit.ly/wonderfully_hungrier with all glory (
http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD.
Laus DEO !
Proverbs
13:25 The righteous has enough to satisfy his appetite, But the stomach of
the wicked is in need.
Indeed, the righteous know to be satisfied (Luke 6:21a) with an omer
(Exodus 16:16) of manna, while the wicked need (Proverbs 13:25) this
knowledge as evident by their eating until they are full (i.e.
satiated).
Joel
2:26 And ye shall eat in plenty, and be satisfied, and praise the name of
the LORD your God, that hath dealt wondrously with you: and my
people shall never be ashamed.
Indeed, an omer (32 ounces per Revelation 6:6) of manna is plenty
(Joel 2:26) with all glory ( http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD and to
the shame of you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned.
Laus DEO ! !
Psalms
107 For he satisfies the thirsty and fills the hungry with good things.
Indeed, being filled (Psalm 107:9) with an omer (Exodus 16:16) of
manna is a Wonderful (Isaiah 9:6) thing while being satiated (i.e.
full) is evil.
Acts
14:17 "Yet he did not leave himself without witness, for he did good by
giving you rains from heaven and fruitful seasons, satisfying
your hearts with food and gladness."
In the interim, you, who are eternally (Mark 3:29) condemned, will
never be satisfied (Acts 14:17) because you are ever more cursed
(Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD.
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/uCPb3ldOv5M/KgM8NFKuAQAJ
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Subject: a very very very simple definition of sin ...
Source:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.med.cardiology/mXmFD9kIocc/y8GNXircBQAJ
Actually, sin is **not** defined in 1 John 1:8-10
John wrote this to christians. The greek grammer (sic) speaks of an
ongoing
status. He includes himself in that status.
John was a Jew instead of a Greek so there is really no reason to
think that Greek grammar is relevant here.
1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is
not in us.
1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our
sins,
and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his
word is
John also wrote earlier at John 5:14 that LORD Jesus commands:
"Now stop sinning or something worse may happen to you." (John 5:14)
And, indeed, your being eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) & ever more
cursed (Jeremiah 17:5) by GOD, as evident by your ever worsening
cognitive deficits, is really worse.
Now again, here's how to really stop sinning as LORD Jesus commands
(John 5:14):
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.bible.prophecy/2-Qpn-o81J4/ldGubKEZAgAJ
While wonderfully hungry ( http://bit.ly/Philippians4_12 ) in the Holy
Spirit, Who causes (Deuteronomy 8:3) me to hunger right now (Luke
6:21a), I again pray (2 Chronicles 7:14) that GOD continues to curse
(Jeremiah 17:5) you, who are eternally condemned (Mark 3:29), more than
ever in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Amen.
Laus DEO ! ! !
Again, this is done in hopes of convincing all reading this to stop
being http://bit.ly/terribly_hungry (2 Kings 6:29) where all are in
danger of becoming eternally condemned (Mark 3:29) just as had happened
to Ananias and Sapphira and more contemporaneously to Bob Pastorio.
Again, the LORD did strike down http://bit.ly/Bob_Pastorio on Fool's day
just 9+ years ago:
http://bobs-amanuensis.livejournal.com/8728.html
Again, this is done ...
http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrewToutsHunger (Luke 6:21a) with all glory (
http://bit.ly/Psalm117_ ) to GOD, Who causes us to hunger (Deuteronomy
8:3) when He blesses us right now (Luke 6:21a) thereby removing the
http://bit.ly/HeartVAT from around the heart
...because we mindfully choose to openly care with our heart,
HeartDoc Andrew <><
--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Cardiologist with an http://bit.ly/EternalMedicalLicense
2016 & upwards non-partisan candidate for U.S. President:
http://bit.ly/WonderfullyHungryPresident
and author of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://bit.ly/HeartDocAndrewCare
which is the only **healthy** cure for the U.S. healthcare crisis