Post by Danny WallPost by Rocketman65-70mph. Bimmers have great engines. The "e" engine was designed to sip
fuel.
Yeah, and so do civics, focus', and a whole bunch of other cars.
Yes, I know: My Honda Civic VX is EPA rated at 54mpg. It makes 90 hp, and
has no trouble cruising at 80 mph all day long. It swallows cargo like a
station wagon. Fantastic car. If every American drove cars like my Honda,
ANWR wouldn't be an issue.
Post by Danny WallPost by RocketmanIf we all drove gas-sipping cars and drove 10mph slower, we would greatly
reduce our dependence upon foreign oil and prolong the existence of all
first world nations, which will collapse when oil runs out in 20 years (at
current projected demand).
Americans learned a long time ago that time is money.
Ok. Drive fast, but drive energy efficient cars and carpool. Why not offer
tax breaks for energy efficiency, and for each person you haul with you on
your commute? Then suburbanites would be clamoring to get more commuters
crammed into their energy-efficient cars.
Post by Danny WallPost by RocketmanDriving an SUV isn't a statement of your American freedom. It's a
statement
Post by Rocketmanof your childish irresponsibility. Conserving gasoline is not only
patriotic, it directly benefits national security.
You have so many sweeping generalities here that it's laughable.
Your myopia is noted.
Post by Danny WallFor starters, Iraq isn't a war for oil.
Yes it is.
Post by Danny WallIf it was we'd have our troops
protecting the oil fields and pipelines, not the cities. We'd have
Haliburton out there ripping every drop of oil out of the Iraqi sand as fast
as they could. We don't have either of those situations and oil production
in Iraq is actually LOWER than it was under Saddam. Now unless you want to
suggest that americans companies don't know how to pump oil ...
It's not about immediately pumping oil by the tanker load for near-term
profits. Iraq, and the pending Iran and Syrian military takeovers, are
about establishing a permanent military dominance in the Middle East to
secure the largest remaining oil reserves for the United States, by far the
largest oil consumer in the world (per capita). The "war on terror" and
"spreading American values" are transparent and cynical ruses used to gain
needed popular support for anotherwise unsupportable imperial agenda.
Post by Danny WallFurther, the purchase of crude oil doesn't cause or create terrorism.
Yes, it does. See above.
Post by Danny WallTherefore, driving an SUV has nothing to do with national security.
Oil production has already peaked. From this point on, the clock is
ticking. The more oil we use now, the sooner our nation (and all
oil-dependent nations) will meet their socioeconomic demise. "The American
Way of Life" has always been a temporary flash in the pan of history; but
now we know its days are numbered. There will no longer be an "American Way
of Life" in 30 years, probably much sooner.
Now are you beginning to see why conservation is every American's patriotic
duty?
Post by Danny WallWe can
talk about global warming as a separate issue if you like, but driving an
SUV has nothing to do with terrorism.
Global warming isn't nearly as important, short term, as the impending
precipitous drop in oil supply, accelerated by the rapidly increasing global
oil demand (from emergent industrial superpowers such as China and India).
We have lots of competition for that oil. They want it as badly as we do.
You know what the market does when demand is high, and supply is low, don't
you?\
When gas is $5/gallon in a few years, think of this discussion.
R