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A Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) terrorist who led the PKK attack against a base of the Turkish Navy in İskenderun just before the Mavi Marmara ship was raided by Israeli soldiers in 2010 is believed to be connected to Israel.
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rick murphy
2012-12-20 18:56:24 UTC
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From the article:

a) "K.Y., the leader of the PKK gang that attacked the base, had lived
in Israel for a year and, during his stay in the country, had contacts
with state institutions.

b) The PKK attack against the Turkish Navy base in İskenderun which
killed seven marines and injured six others, took place just three
hours before the Israeli attact on Mavi Marmara in May 2010.

c) An Israeli soldier, who spoke Turkish fluently, had asked a Mavi
Marmara victim if he was aware of an attack against the naval base in
İskenderun.

d) The Israeli soldier told the victim that the Israelis were very
happy about the attack in İskenderun and that the victim would hear
about it when he returned to Turkey.


Questions:

a) If Israel were against terrorism and a "friend" of Turkiye, why
then it allowed a PKK terrorist to live in Israel for a year?

b) How come a low level Israeli soldier, who spoke fluent Turkish,
knew about PKK attact only 3 hours after it happenned before Turkish
press learned about it?

c) How come Israel, a "friend" of Turkiye and "democratic" country
which is respectful to human rights and freedoms, becomes "very happy
about a terrorist PKK attack in İskenderun, Turkiye"



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http://www.todayszaman.com/news-301714-israeli-link-suspected-in-pkk-iskenderun-attack.html

Israeli link suspected in PKK İskenderun attack

Picture: Military officials inspect the scene a day after the attack,
which took place just three hours before the Mavi Marmara was raided
by Israeli troops in May 2010, just near the İskenderun Naval Base.
(Photo: AA)

20 December 2012 / TODAY'S ZAMAN, ANKARA,

A Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) terrorist who led the PKK attack
against a base of the Turkish Navy in İskenderun just before the Mavi
Marmara ship was raided by Israeli soldiers in 2010 is believed to be
connected to Israel.

According to a story which appeared in the Yeni Şafak daily on
Thursday, the Adana Counterterrorism Prosecutor's Office, which is
investigating the attack against the naval base, discovered that K.Y.,
the leader of the PKK gang that attacked the base, had lived in Israel
for a year and, during his stay in the country, had contacts with
state institutions.

The paper reported that a victim of the Mavi Marmara incident in May
2010 who was interrogated after the incident by an Israeli soldier who
spoke Turkish fluently said that at the end of the interrogation, the
soldier had asked the victim if he was aware of an attack against the
naval base in İskenderun. When the answer was no, the soldier told the
victim that the Israelis were very happy about the attack in
İskenderun and that the victim would hear about it when he returned to
Turkey.

The victim's statement raised suspicions about a possible Israeli
connection with the PKK's attack in İskenderun as the attack took
place just three hours before the Mavi Marmara was raided by Israeli
troops. The prosecutor's office demanded the Mavi Marmara dossier from
the İstanbul's 7th High Criminal Court, where a lawsuit is being heard
in which top Israeli military officials are being charged for their
role in the killing of nine Turks in the Mavi Marmara attack.

The daily claimed that the PKK's connection with Israel came out after
eight perpetrators of the İskenderun attack were captured by the
police on Nov. 12 of last year in Aydıncık, a town in Mersin province.
Unlike the other seven PKK terrorists who were caught, Fırat Siverek,
a code name for K.Y., refused to give a statement to the police. The
attack in İskenderun, in which seven marines were killed, marks a
first in the history of the PKK, which had never before attacked a
naval base.

During interrogations at the police station and prosecutor's office,
none of the captured terrorists wanted to give a statement, but
eventually all except K.Y. started to talk about their terrorist
activities, saying that K.Y. often traveled to Israel. K.Y., being
much older than the average PKK terrorist, presents a distinctive
profile. In an investigation which the prosecutor's office started
into K.Y.'s connections, it found that K.Y. had contacts with some
state institutions and people in Israel. During his year-long
imprisonment, K.Y. has neither spoken about the terrorist activities
of the PKK nor his connections with Israel.

Seven marines were killed and six others injured when PKK terrorists
launched a rocket at a naval reinforcement command in İskenderun in
the southern province of Hatay. Terrorists from the outlawed PKK
attacked a military vehicle carrying soldiers for a changing of the
guard shortly after midnight.
choro
2012-12-21 04:09:17 UTC
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Ne oluyor? Ansizin tercumeler hakikaten profesyonel seviyede. onbes yil
oncesini hatirliyorum. AA Ingilizce bultenini sert ele$tirirken nerde
kaldi vatan haini ilan edilmi$tim. Acaba diyorum on ele$tirilerim en
nihayet netice mi verdi?

Fakat gel gelelim bizim "rick murphy" hal^a haddinden uzun ba$liklar
kullniyor. Ah bir de bu "Rick"i bu hususta bir guzel terbiye edebilsem!

Yoksa bu ele$tirilerimin neticesini gormek icin 15 yil daha beklemem mi
gerekecek?

Ulen, "rick" min, "sick" min, her kim isen, ne zaman normal ba$lik
kullanmaga ba$layacaksin?

Nasil gazetecisin len? Gazete ba$liklarinin kisa olmasi gerektigini sana
medya kurslarinda ogreten olmadi mi len?

Ince ve uzun ornek ;-)

https://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&sugexp=les%3B&gs_rn=1&gs_ri=hp&tok=uyD9cq7Fvo7Fsit3yJXRAA&cp=8&gs_id=u&xhr=t&q=angry+smiley&pf=p&tbo=d&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&oq=angry+sm&gs_l=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.1355534169,d.d2k&fp=f42fee5d8e10998d&bpcl=40096503&biw=1918&bih=1080

Al sana $imdi de kisa ve kalin ornek... :-(
http://goo.gl/A1tm9

Yoksa tercihin kisa ve kalin yerine uzun ve ince mi len? --
choro
*****
Post by rick murphy
a) "K.Y., the leader of the PKK gang that attacked the base, had lived
in Israel for a year and, during his stay in the country, had contacts
with state institutions.
b) The PKK attack against the Turkish Navy base in İskenderun which
killed seven marines and injured six others, took place just three
hours before the Israeli attact on Mavi Marmara in May 2010.
c) An Israeli soldier, who spoke Turkish fluently, had asked a Mavi
Marmara victim if he was aware of an attack against the naval base in
İskenderun.
d) The Israeli soldier told the victim that the Israelis were very
happy about the attack in İskenderun and that the victim would hear
about it when he returned to Turkey.
a) If Israel were against terrorism and a "friend" of Turkiye, why
then it allowed a PKK terrorist to live in Israel for a year?
b) How come a low level Israeli soldier, who spoke fluent Turkish,
knew about PKK attact only 3 hours after it happenned before Turkish
press learned about it?
c) How come Israel, a "friend" of Turkiye and "democratic" country
which is respectful to human rights and freedoms, becomes "very happy
about a terrorist PKK attack in İskenderun, Turkiye"
+++++++++++++++++++
http://www.todayszaman.com/news-301714-israeli-link-suspected-in-pkk-iskenderun-attack.html
Israeli link suspected in PKK İskenderun attack
Picture: Military officials inspect the scene a day after the attack,
which took place just three hours before the Mavi Marmara was raided
by Israeli troops in May 2010, just near the İskenderun Naval Base.
(Photo: AA)
20 December 2012 / TODAY'S ZAMAN, ANKARA,
A Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) terrorist who led the PKK attack
against a base of the Turkish Navy in İskenderun just before the Mavi
Marmara ship was raided by Israeli soldiers in 2010 is believed to be
connected to Israel.
According to a story which appeared in the Yeni Şafak daily on
Thursday, the Adana Counterterrorism Prosecutor's Office, which is
investigating the attack against the naval base, discovered that K.Y.,
the leader of the PKK gang that attacked the base, had lived in Israel
for a year and, during his stay in the country, had contacts with
state institutions.
The paper reported that a victim of the Mavi Marmara incident in May
2010 who was interrogated after the incident by an Israeli soldier who
spoke Turkish fluently said that at the end of the interrogation, the
soldier had asked the victim if he was aware of an attack against the
naval base in İskenderun. When the answer was no, the soldier told the
victim that the Israelis were very happy about the attack in
İskenderun and that the victim would hear about it when he returned to
Turkey.
The victim's statement raised suspicions about a possible Israeli
connection with the PKK's attack in İskenderun as the attack took
place just three hours before the Mavi Marmara was raided by Israeli
troops. The prosecutor's office demanded the Mavi Marmara dossier from
the İstanbul's 7th High Criminal Court, where a lawsuit is being heard
in which top Israeli military officials are being charged for their
role in the killing of nine Turks in the Mavi Marmara attack.
The daily claimed that the PKK's connection with Israel came out after
eight perpetrators of the İskenderun attack were captured by the
police on Nov. 12 of last year in Aydıncık, a town in Mersin province.
Unlike the other seven PKK terrorists who were caught, Fırat Siverek,
a code name for K.Y., refused to give a statement to the police. The
attack in İskenderun, in which seven marines were killed, marks a
first in the history of the PKK, which had never before attacked a
naval base.
During interrogations at the police station and prosecutor's office,
none of the captured terrorists wanted to give a statement, but
eventually all except K.Y. started to talk about their terrorist
activities, saying that K.Y. often traveled to Israel. K.Y., being
much older than the average PKK terrorist, presents a distinctive
profile. In an investigation which the prosecutor's office started
into K.Y.'s connections, it found that K.Y. had contacts with some
state institutions and people in Israel. During his year-long
imprisonment, K.Y. has neither spoken about the terrorist activities
of the PKK nor his connections with Israel.
Seven marines were killed and six others injured when PKK terrorists
launched a rocket at a naval reinforcement command in İskenderun in
the southern province of Hatay. Terrorists from the outlawed PKK
attacked a military vehicle carrying soldiers for a changing of the
guard shortly after midnight.
Acephale Lemar
2012-12-21 08:26:32 UTC
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Post by choro
Ne oluyor? Ansizin tercumeler hakikaten profesyonel seviyede. onbes
yil oncesini hatirliyorum. AA Ingilizce bultenini sert ele$tirirken
nerde kaldi vatan haini ilan edilmi$tim. Acaba diyorum on
ele$tirilerim en nihayet netice mi verdi?
Fakat gel gelelim bizim "rick murphy" hal^a haddinden uzun ba$liklar
kullniyor. Ah bir de bu "Rick"i bu hususta bir guzel terbiye
edebilsem!
Yoksa bu ele$tirilerimin neticesini gormek icin 15 yil daha beklemem
mi gerekecek?
Ulen, "rick" min, "sick" min, her kim isen, ne zaman normal ba$lik
kullanmaga ba$layacaksin?
Nasil gazetecisin len? Gazete ba$liklarinin kisa olmasi gerektigini
sana medya kurslarinda ogreten olmadi mi len?
Buraya lafim yok, lakin...
Post by choro
Ince ve uzun ornek ;-)
https://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&sugexp=les%3B&gs_rn=1&gs_ri=hp&tok=uyD9cq7Fvo7Fsit3yJXRAA&cp=8&gs_id=u&xhr=t&q=angry+smiley&pf=p&tbo=d&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&oq=angry+sm&gs_l=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.1355534169,d.d2k&fp=f42fee5d8e10998d&bpcl=40096503&biw=1918&bih=1080
Al sana $imdi de kisa ve kalin ornek... :-(
http://goo.gl/A1tm9
Yoksa tercihin kisa ve kalin yerine uzun ve ince mi len? --
..burada nezaket cemberinin disina ciktin. sct ne mey hane ne de ker
veya ser hane, en kötü ihtimal ile bir kahvehane. Kibris'i bilmiyorum,
ölcek de olamaz benim icin, ama Türkiye'de kahvenin bile bir adabi=
edebi vardir, uymayanlar disari rica edilirler.
choro
2012-12-21 08:58:30 UTC
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Post by Acephale Lemar
Post by choro
Ne oluyor? Ansizin tercumeler hakikaten profesyonel seviyede. onbes
yil oncesini hatirliyorum. AA Ingilizce bultenini sert ele$tirirken
nerde kaldi vatan haini ilan edilmi$tim. Acaba diyorum on
ele$tirilerim en nihayet netice mi verdi?
Fakat gel gelelim bizim "rick murphy" hal^a haddinden uzun ba$liklar
kullniyor. Ah bir de bu "Rick"i bu hususta bir guzel terbiye
edebilsem!
Yoksa bu ele$tirilerimin neticesini gormek icin 15 yil daha beklemem
mi gerekecek?
Ulen, "rick" min, "sick" min, her kim isen, ne zaman normal ba$lik
kullanmaga ba$layacaksin?
Nasil gazetecisin len? Gazete ba$liklarinin kisa olmasi gerektigini
sana medya kurslarinda ogreten olmadi mi len?
Buraya lafim yok, lakin...
Post by choro
Ince ve uzun ornek ;-)
https://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&sugexp=les%3B&gs_rn=1&gs_ri=hp&tok=uyD9cq7Fvo7Fsit3yJXRAA&cp=8&gs_id=u&xhr=t&q=angry+smiley&pf=p&tbo=d&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&oq=angry+sm&gs_l=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.1355534169,d.d2k&fp=f42fee5d8e10998d&bpcl=40096503&biw=1918&bih=1080
Al sana $imdi de kisa ve kalin ornek... :-(
http://goo.gl/A1tm9
Yoksa tercihin kisa ve kalin yerine uzun ve ince mi len? --
..burada nezaket cemberinin disina ciktin. sct ne mey hane ne de ker
veya ser hane, en kötü ihtimal ile bir kahvehane. Kibris'i bilmiyorum,
ölcek de olamaz benim icin, ama Türkiye'de kahvenin bile bir adabi=
edebi vardir, uymayanlar disari rica edilirler.
Yaw, kac yildir bu uzun ba$liklardan vazgecmesi gerektigini yaziyorum.
Ama domuzun kuyrugunu duzeltebilirsen o da duzelir.

Eninde sonunda insan rezil olur tabii, belki mesaji ona bu sekilde
ula$tirabilir miyim diye.

Hem sen ne kari$irsin bu i$e? Seni davet eden kim?

Ben bu laflari yillar once bir di$ doktorunun muayenesinde duymu$tum.
Kadin di$ doktoru di$imi oymak icin asistanindan aleti uzatmasini
istediginde, yine kadin asistani: "Kisa ve kalin mi, yoksa ince ve uzun
mu istiyorsun?" diye sorunca siritmaga ba$ladilar.

E, vizgec. Bunlar Evropali. Mizah anlayi$lari boyle i$te.
Biz ciddi Muslumaniz.

Sonra burasi ne senin kahvehanen, ne meyhanen, ne de senin karhanendir.

Yerine ve zemine gore istedigim gibi hareket etmekte serbestim.
Begenmezsen es gec.
--
choro
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