Arrogant Liars & Pretenders
2013-03-23 04:51:23 UTC
Late last year, Qld Premier, Campbell Newman announced that the choice
of fluoridation would be devolved to local councils.
"Campbell Newman says he supports fluoridation but councils should be
able to decide if it is in their water supply not the State Government"
http://www.news.com.au/national-news/queensland/campbell-newman-gives-councils-responsibility-for-fluoridation/story-fndo4ckr-1226534032384
Clearly, the question was not about *fluoridation* but about community
*choice*.
Tanya Plibersek, Health Minister qualified in .... Politics ....
reacted, claiming that people should *not* have the choice to decide
what gets put into their water supply - that the choice should be made
*for them*...
Here is her centralist, socialist position...
"Essentially what the Government is doing is shoving this responsibility
onto councils and I think that this is an issue that really is much
better dealt with at a state level"
A lie. State government gave councils the *choice* because some councils
were vocal in saying that it should be a choice.
But Plibersek has been know to lie before ... and liars do not change
their spots....
Plibersek...
"There will be dentists who tell you that they can tell someone who grew
up in Queensland because of the state of their teeth as adults".
(Also, see this:
Comment: What kind of claim is that? Can she name those dentists? Is
there a study? Did they isolate the causes?
Plibersek continues...
"Look I think it's Dr Google leading people astray again. You can find
all sorts of nutty things on the internet about, you know, the harmful
effects of this or that and people should be very, very careful what
they believe when they're reading it from these sorts of sources".
http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2012/s3651906.htm
Plibersek's original response, repeated in ...
"Plibersek bares teeth over fluoridation"
...Australian Doctor, er well - not quite:
http://www.australiandoctor.com.au/error/404?aspxerrorpath=/news/latest-news/plibersek-bares-teeth-over-fluoridation
"Unfortunately the page that is supposed to be here has upped sticks"
If Plibersek or any ignorant idiot from the ALP *disendorses* a course
of action, you should probably take that as an *endorsement* - so
naturally, I consulted DR Google.
Unlike Plibersek, I *can* quote a study:
This study claims that "nearly half" of Qld children suffer from tooth
decay, which it claims "compares adversely" with southern states and
then goes onto say that ...
"New South Wales and Victoria were not included in either study due a
lack of access to data and small sample sizes"
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/a-state-of-decay-queensland-childrens-terrible-teeth-20111208-1ol6h.html
THE SAMPLE SUBJECTS WERE "children utilising *public* dental services".
I never cease to be amazed at the *crap* that gets published in
Australia as 'statistics'. First of all, the sample subjects are
self-selecting people WITH A PROBLEM and secondly, they are from lower
socio-economic groups.
Hello, hello - How many Aboriginal kids are there in Tamzania?
(NSW and Victoria were excluded, remember?)
[OH, and BTW the study above hasn't ended - and BTW, it will never end
because the ALP ended public funding for chronic dental problems]
Now let's talk about fluoridation:
"Fluoride causes the lesion; it inhibits the DNA repair enzyme, and then
inhibits our immune system by 30 to 70%. And that occurs at only one
part per million"
http://www.consumerhealth.org/articles/display.cfm?ID=19990303222823
"Fluoride inhibits this DNA enzyme activity by 50%. and inhibits repair
mechanisms, leading to an increase in genetic or chromosomal damage"
http://www.americanacupuncture.com/DANGERS%20OF%20FLUORIDE.html
Enough?
Here's some more from Dr Google...
"Fluoride is a central nervous system toxin and in low doses affects
human brains. It allows aluminum cross the barrier. It blocks magnesium
ions that are necessary body enzymes systems. Fluoride goes into the
bone osteoblasts and blocks collagen formation, Making the bones more
brittle, Resulting in osteoporosis.. Tendons, spinal ligaments, and
cartilage become mineralized".
http://www.americanacupuncture.com/DANGERS%20OF%20FLUORIDE.html
"ADDITION OF FLUORIDE TO PUBLIC WATER SYSTEMS The addition of fluoride
to the public water supply is the most insidious way of chronically
poisoning hundreds of millions of people around the world.
...
There was already scientific evidence from the 1950s that fluoride was
causing cancer, and a 1963 study by Driscowitz and Norton showed that
increased fluoride concentrations in the media of experimental animals
increased tumour incidence from 12% at the lowest concentrations up to 100%"
http://www.consumerhealth.org/articles/display.cfm?ID=19990303222823
Alarmed? Yes - I was too. Let's revisit the ethics.
"Many who oppose water fluoridation consider it to be a form of
compulsory mass medication[10]"
[comment: That'd be right, classic we-know-whats-good-for-you ALP stuff!]
"Water fluoridation was characterized in at least one journal
publication as a violation the Nuremberg Code and the Council of
Europe's Biomedical Convention of 1999.[1]"
[comment: Of which Australia are signatories?]
"In the United Kingdom, the Green Party refers to fluoride as a poison,
claims that water fluoridation violates Article 35 of the European
Charter of Fundamental Rights, is banned by the UK poisons act of 1972,
violates Articles 3 and 8 of the Human Rights Act and raises issues
under the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child.[10]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_fluoridation_controversy
The last word from 'Queenslanders for Safe Water, Air and Food':
"...the evidence that fluoridation is more harmful than beneficial is
now overwhelming and policy makers who avoid thoroughly reviewing
*recent data* before introducing new fluoridation schemes do so at risk
of future litigation"
http://www.qawf.org/UploadFiles/file/evidencefluorideharmfuloverwhelming.pdf
IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE ALARMED, DON'T READ IT.
PS: If you need to know more about health and the human anatomy, see the
poster called 'Female Human Anatomy' signed off by Plebersek;s department:
http://www.ruraldr.com.au/news/govt-thinks-ovaries-are-kidneys
http://www.australiandoctor.com.au/news/latest-news/poster-bungle-designers-fault-govt
http://echonetdaily.echo.net.au/blooper-health-posters-recalled/
An hi-res original can be found here:
http://ebookbrowse.com/female-anatomy-poster-pdf-d366304168
Brought to you by the ALP-run Federal Health department and
livelonger.health.gov.au
PS: The Liberal spokesman on this issue is a qualified Doctor:
http://www.liberal.org.au/latest-news/2012/10/03/snowden%E2%80%99s-poster-gaffe
--
"Whatever you hear on budget night is crap"
Joe Hockey, March 2012
"The most concerning aspects of Mr. Conroy's enormous power are his
infantile understanding of how business actually operates, and his Obeid
like devotion to his cronies".
http://www.businessspectator.com.au/article/2013/3/21/national-affairs/end-line-conroy#ixzz2O8MmFKkl
"Wayne Swan was explicitly asked to rule out a further increase in the
debt limit above the current limit of
$300 billion. He steadfastly refused".
http://liberal.org.au/latest-news/2013/03/13/swan-refuses-rule-out-increase-debt-limit-above-300-billion
Swan...
"The course of action I'm talking about today really comes very much, I
guess, to the core of my values and the values of the Labor Party"
Paul Howes...
"Labor has an obligation to stop extremists who threaten our democracy"
How much new law is there every year?
Tony Abbott...
"You do not save the environment by killing the economy"
"It's not about popularity, it's about gaining respect, and she hasn't
got it yet"
(Australian of the Year, 2013)
of fluoridation would be devolved to local councils.
"Campbell Newman says he supports fluoridation but councils should be
able to decide if it is in their water supply not the State Government"
http://www.news.com.au/national-news/queensland/campbell-newman-gives-councils-responsibility-for-fluoridation/story-fndo4ckr-1226534032384
Clearly, the question was not about *fluoridation* but about community
*choice*.
Tanya Plibersek, Health Minister qualified in .... Politics ....
reacted, claiming that people should *not* have the choice to decide
what gets put into their water supply - that the choice should be made
*for them*...
Here is her centralist, socialist position...
"Essentially what the Government is doing is shoving this responsibility
onto councils and I think that this is an issue that really is much
better dealt with at a state level"
A lie. State government gave councils the *choice* because some councils
were vocal in saying that it should be a choice.
But Plibersek has been know to lie before ... and liars do not change
their spots....
Plibersek...
"There will be dentists who tell you that they can tell someone who grew
up in Queensland because of the state of their teeth as adults".
(Also, see this:
Comment: What kind of claim is that? Can she name those dentists? Is
there a study? Did they isolate the causes?
Plibersek continues...
"Look I think it's Dr Google leading people astray again. You can find
all sorts of nutty things on the internet about, you know, the harmful
effects of this or that and people should be very, very careful what
they believe when they're reading it from these sorts of sources".
http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2012/s3651906.htm
Plibersek's original response, repeated in ...
"Plibersek bares teeth over fluoridation"
...Australian Doctor, er well - not quite:
http://www.australiandoctor.com.au/error/404?aspxerrorpath=/news/latest-news/plibersek-bares-teeth-over-fluoridation
"Unfortunately the page that is supposed to be here has upped sticks"
If Plibersek or any ignorant idiot from the ALP *disendorses* a course
of action, you should probably take that as an *endorsement* - so
naturally, I consulted DR Google.
Unlike Plibersek, I *can* quote a study:
This study claims that "nearly half" of Qld children suffer from tooth
decay, which it claims "compares adversely" with southern states and
then goes onto say that ...
"New South Wales and Victoria were not included in either study due a
lack of access to data and small sample sizes"
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/a-state-of-decay-queensland-childrens-terrible-teeth-20111208-1ol6h.html
THE SAMPLE SUBJECTS WERE "children utilising *public* dental services".
I never cease to be amazed at the *crap* that gets published in
Australia as 'statistics'. First of all, the sample subjects are
self-selecting people WITH A PROBLEM and secondly, they are from lower
socio-economic groups.
Hello, hello - How many Aboriginal kids are there in Tamzania?
(NSW and Victoria were excluded, remember?)
[OH, and BTW the study above hasn't ended - and BTW, it will never end
because the ALP ended public funding for chronic dental problems]
Now let's talk about fluoridation:
"Fluoride causes the lesion; it inhibits the DNA repair enzyme, and then
inhibits our immune system by 30 to 70%. And that occurs at only one
part per million"
http://www.consumerhealth.org/articles/display.cfm?ID=19990303222823
"Fluoride inhibits this DNA enzyme activity by 50%. and inhibits repair
mechanisms, leading to an increase in genetic or chromosomal damage"
http://www.americanacupuncture.com/DANGERS%20OF%20FLUORIDE.html
Enough?
Here's some more from Dr Google...
"Fluoride is a central nervous system toxin and in low doses affects
human brains. It allows aluminum cross the barrier. It blocks magnesium
ions that are necessary body enzymes systems. Fluoride goes into the
bone osteoblasts and blocks collagen formation, Making the bones more
brittle, Resulting in osteoporosis.. Tendons, spinal ligaments, and
cartilage become mineralized".
http://www.americanacupuncture.com/DANGERS%20OF%20FLUORIDE.html
"ADDITION OF FLUORIDE TO PUBLIC WATER SYSTEMS The addition of fluoride
to the public water supply is the most insidious way of chronically
poisoning hundreds of millions of people around the world.
...
There was already scientific evidence from the 1950s that fluoride was
causing cancer, and a 1963 study by Driscowitz and Norton showed that
increased fluoride concentrations in the media of experimental animals
increased tumour incidence from 12% at the lowest concentrations up to 100%"
http://www.consumerhealth.org/articles/display.cfm?ID=19990303222823
Alarmed? Yes - I was too. Let's revisit the ethics.
"Many who oppose water fluoridation consider it to be a form of
compulsory mass medication[10]"
[comment: That'd be right, classic we-know-whats-good-for-you ALP stuff!]
"Water fluoridation was characterized in at least one journal
publication as a violation the Nuremberg Code and the Council of
Europe's Biomedical Convention of 1999.[1]"
[comment: Of which Australia are signatories?]
"In the United Kingdom, the Green Party refers to fluoride as a poison,
claims that water fluoridation violates Article 35 of the European
Charter of Fundamental Rights, is banned by the UK poisons act of 1972,
violates Articles 3 and 8 of the Human Rights Act and raises issues
under the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child.[10]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_fluoridation_controversy
The last word from 'Queenslanders for Safe Water, Air and Food':
"...the evidence that fluoridation is more harmful than beneficial is
now overwhelming and policy makers who avoid thoroughly reviewing
*recent data* before introducing new fluoridation schemes do so at risk
of future litigation"
http://www.qawf.org/UploadFiles/file/evidencefluorideharmfuloverwhelming.pdf
IF YOU DON'T WANT TO BE ALARMED, DON'T READ IT.
PS: If you need to know more about health and the human anatomy, see the
poster called 'Female Human Anatomy' signed off by Plebersek;s department:
http://www.ruraldr.com.au/news/govt-thinks-ovaries-are-kidneys
http://www.australiandoctor.com.au/news/latest-news/poster-bungle-designers-fault-govt
http://echonetdaily.echo.net.au/blooper-health-posters-recalled/
An hi-res original can be found here:
http://ebookbrowse.com/female-anatomy-poster-pdf-d366304168
Brought to you by the ALP-run Federal Health department and
livelonger.health.gov.au
PS: The Liberal spokesman on this issue is a qualified Doctor:
http://www.liberal.org.au/latest-news/2012/10/03/snowden%E2%80%99s-poster-gaffe
--
"Whatever you hear on budget night is crap"
Joe Hockey, March 2012
"The most concerning aspects of Mr. Conroy's enormous power are his
infantile understanding of how business actually operates, and his Obeid
like devotion to his cronies".
http://www.businessspectator.com.au/article/2013/3/21/national-affairs/end-line-conroy#ixzz2O8MmFKkl
"Wayne Swan was explicitly asked to rule out a further increase in the
debt limit above the current limit of
$300 billion. He steadfastly refused".
http://liberal.org.au/latest-news/2013/03/13/swan-refuses-rule-out-increase-debt-limit-above-300-billion
Swan...
"The course of action I'm talking about today really comes very much, I
guess, to the core of my values and the values of the Labor Party"
Paul Howes...
"Labor has an obligation to stop extremists who threaten our democracy"
How much new law is there every year?
Tony Abbott...
"You do not save the environment by killing the economy"
"It's not about popularity, it's about gaining respect, and she hasn't
got it yet"
(Australian of the Year, 2013)