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Post by Leonard Blaisdell
Please be civil with our employees.
If you think you can do better, we're hiring.
leo

That needs to be posted in all restaurants.

Bruce 0.77 Beta

2021-10-11 04:28:04 UTC

On 11 Oct 2021 03:51:17 GMT, Leonard Blaisdell

Post by Leonard Blaisdell
I mentioned recently that I went to A&W for the first time in years.

A&W? One of your lovely fast food chains?

Post by Leonard Blaisdell
We liked it, so I went back a couple of days ago.
While waiting for my drive-through order, I noticed a sign in the window
Please be civil with our employees.
If you think you can do better, we're hiring.

They must not be too happy about their current employees. I'd stay
away. I bet they spit in your food.

Leonard Blaisdell

2021-10-11 05:50:31 UTC

Post by Bruce 0.77 Beta
They must not be too happy about their current employees. I'd stay
away. I bet they spit in your food.

You ain't the real Bruce. I haven't updated his code. How far over your
head can you see? Your developer needs to think harder.

Dave Smith

2021-10-11 13:25:26 UTC

Post by Leonard Blaisdell
I mentioned recently that I went to A&W for the first time in years. We
liked it, so I went back a couple of days ago.
While waiting for my drive-through order, I noticed a sign in the window
Please be civil with our employees.
If you think you can do better, we're hiring.

People have been nasty to restaurant staff during this pandemic. I was
in the liquor store the other day and heard the strangest announcement.
It started off about masking and maintaining social distance and then
went on to talk about how their staff has been working hard to help
people so please me nice to them and if they are helpful please remember
to say thank you. WTF? Customers are being told they should say
thank you to staff?? Gimmee a break. My inclination is to be polite and
courteous to store clerks and wait staff. I would normally say please
and thank you, but I found it annoying to be told to do that.

Lucretia Borgia

2021-10-11 14:11:55 UTC

On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 09:25:26 -0400, Dave Smith

I disagree, I notice more and more that people say 'I want' and never
please or thank you. Maybe they need reminding, just makes the day
nicer for people who serve you if you are pleasant and polite with
them.

Dave Smith

2021-10-11 15:06:59 UTC

Post by Lucretia Borgia
On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 09:25:26 -0400, Dave Smith

Maybe you have been drinking too much of the CBC social engineering
KoolAid. It was the liquor store. The staff and customers are all
adults. There should not be public messages telling them how to behave.
They should learn manners at home and at school. This is a store that
will not stand behind its staff. They have allowed to intervene when
they see someone stealing booze in their store.

The way for stores to get customers to be polite and friendly is to
treat them nicely. I have to admit that most of them are very nice and
helpful. Some of them need lessons on customer service. I remember one
at the local LCBO who said she could not order a case of wine for me.
The store was pretty busy at the time. Excuse the hell out of me if I
was going to take up a couple minutes of her time by ordering a case of
wine that was not stocked in that store. I went back another time and
asked one of the other staff to order it for me. No problem. I told him
about the other one refusing. He asked what she looked like..... purple
hair and tattoos.. no surprise to him.

Bruce 0.77 Beta

2021-10-11 14:39:04 UTC

Joe Biden is not FDR, and could never hope to be. He doesn’t have the intelligence, the
judgement, the competence or the guile to pull off such a feat. To say nothing of the
fact that he has no mandate for change and an evenly divided Congress. And that
especially with his mind rapidly deteriorating, his leadership skills are in the toilet.

But if you were dumb enough to believe Joe was the new Frank Roosevelt, you get what you deserve.

Michael Trew

2021-10-11 15:44:23 UTC

People have been nasty to restaurant staff during this pandemic. I was
in the liquor store the other day and heard the strangest announcement.
It started off about masking and maintaining social distance and then
went on to talk about how their staff has been working hard to help
people so please me nice to them and if they are helpful please remember
to say thank you. WTF? Customers are being told they should say thank
you to staff?? Gimmee a break. My inclination is to be polite and
courteous to store clerks and wait staff. I would normally say please
and thank you, but I found it annoying to be told to do that.

I feel the same way, but you might be surprised how many people have
absolutely no manners. They act like animals in public situations and
treat employees like dirt. It's almost unfathomable, but it's becoming
reality. Kids aren't beaten enough, and we see the resulting adults.

Mike Duffy

2021-10-11 16:08:43 UTC

Post by Michael Trew
I feel the same way, but you might be surprised how many people have
absolutely no manners. They act like animals in public situations and
treat employees like dirt. It's almost unfathomable, but it's becoming
reality.

I doubt Dave would be surprised. In the past, Dave has occasionaly
related personal episodes of one of his relations who has a bad habit of
behaving rude towards waiters the point where others in his social milieu
become uncomfortable.

The staff put up with it just because tips are a significant fraction of
their remuneration.

Post by Michael Trew
Kids aren't beaten enough, and we see the resulting adults.

I know you're exaggerating, Michael. For sure, some parents do not
provide proper examples of behaviour.

Dave Smith

2021-10-11 16:47:12 UTC

I doubt Dave would be surprised. In the past, Dave has occasionaly
related personal episodes of one of his relations who has a bad habit of
behaving rude towards waiters the point where others in his social milieu
become uncomfortable.
The staff put up with it just because tips are a significant fraction of
their remuneration.
Apparently there are limits, because we once had a waiter abandon us

when she tried to make him her personal slave, sending him back for one
thing after another until he got fed up and never came back.

I believe I told the time we went out with her and her mother, her
mother's treat. She ordered a hamburger plate that came with salad or
fries and asked for fries. A few minutes later she called the waitress
over and asked for salad, not specifying it was in addition to the
fries. The waitress brought her the meal with the salad. She asked where
are the fries. Waitress says, quite appropriately, that she thought she
asked for salad instead. Nope, she wanted both. Waitress went off to the
kitchen to get a rush order of fries because of here <?> mistake. A
couple minutes late, she calls the waitress over and cancels the fries.
Now the waitress has to go back and cancel the order of fries. But it
doesn't end there, because a few minutes after that she calls the
waitress back and orders fries. She actually wanted the fries this time
and ate them when they came.

I was stunned. I don't know how anyone could treat a waitress like that.
It won't happen again because I will not go to a restaurant with her
again. I don't care if her mother is there or if her mother is paying. I
won't be a party to it.

Post by Michael Trew
Kids aren't beaten enough, and we see the resulting adults.

I know you're exaggerating, Michael. For sure, some parents do not
provide proper examples of behaviour.

A spanking is not a beating. We do children no favours by allowing them
to behave badly. I have a nephew whose wife is a little flighty and is
so opposed to correcting her kid's behaviour that you cannot say "no" to
him. He has to be "redirected". Yeah, how does that work when the kid
breaks away from you and runs out into a busy road, or smashes something
made of glass and he gets cut and bleeds all over the place. No
surprise the kid is a spoiled brat.

Bruce 0.77 Beta

2021-10-11 19:55:05 UTC

On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 15:46:17 -0400, Michael Trew

Post by Michael Trew
Kids aren't beaten enough, and we see the resulting adults.

I know you're exaggerating, Michael. For sure, some parents do not
provide proper examples of behaviour.

It's a very rare day that I'd have to do anything more to my daughter
than to raise my voice, she knows. I'd never abuse, but I am strict.

So according to Michael, his own daughter isn't beaten enough either.
Some adult she will be!

Hank Rogers

2021-10-11 20:52:02 UTC

Post by Bruce 0.77 Beta
On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 15:46:17 -0400, Michael Trew

Post by Michael Trew
Kids aren't beaten enough, and we see the resulting adults.

I know you're exaggerating, Michael. For sure, some parents do not
provide proper examples of behaviour.

It's a very rare day that I'd have to do anything more to my daughter
than to raise my voice, she knows. I'd never abuse, but I am strict.

So according to Michael, his own daughter isn't beaten enough either.
Some adult she will be!

Did you get a good snort there master?

Lucretia Borgia

2021-10-11 21:11:21 UTC

On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 15:46:17 -0400, Michael Trew

Post by Michael Trew
Kids aren't beaten enough, and we see the resulting adults.

I know you're exaggerating, Michael. For sure, some parents do not
provide proper examples of behaviour.

It's a very rare day that I'd have to do anything more to my daughter
than to raise my voice, she knows. I'd never abuse, but I am strict.
You have to set expectations when they are young. I've seen some kids
that have never been told "no", who are so far gone, that I don't think
beating would help anymore. It's a pity.

I have a friend who took early retirement from her job as a university
counsellor. She said her job was pointless, she no longer helped
students, it was all their parents whining about the little darling
needing this or that and the pleasure went out of the job.

Michael Trew

2021-10-12 14:46:44 UTC

Post by Bruce 0.77 Beta
On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 15:46:17 -0400, Michael Trew

Post by Michael Trew
Kids aren't beaten enough, and we see the resulting adults.

I know you're exaggerating, Michael. For sure, some parents do not
provide proper examples of behaviour.

I've heard similar sentiments. I could never be a school teacher.
Parents used to be on the teacher's side, but not anymore.

jmcquown

2021-10-11 21:21:46 UTC

Post by Michael Trew
Kids aren't beaten enough, and we see the resulting adults.

I know you're exaggerating, Michael. For sure, some parents do not
provide proper examples of behaviour.

Beating? Nope. But being told NO, absolutely. When I was in my early
20's a friend came over and brought her toddler with her. I think the
girl was perhaps 2-1/2, 3 years old. While we were sitting there
talking her daughter pulled one of my hardback books off the shelf and
started ripping the pages out. My friend didn't say a word but I yelled
"STOP THAT!" and jumped up and took the book away from her. The girl
started to cry. Hell, it was a $30 book, not some dime-store novel.
Her mother got angry at *me*; how dare you yell at my child! I said if
you had bothered to do it I wouldn't have to.

Jill

Bruce 0.77 Beta

2021-10-11 21:31:57 UTC

Post by Michael Trew
Kids aren't beaten enough, and we see the resulting adults.

I know you're exaggerating, Michael. For sure, some parents do not
provide proper examples of behaviour.

Beating? Nope. But being told NO, absolutely.

But we were talking about beating children. Michael advocates that.
Being told NO is another matter entirely.

Michael Trew

2021-10-12 14:48:33 UTC

Post by Michael Trew
Kids aren't beaten enough, and we see the resulting adults.

I know you're exaggerating, Michael. For sure, some parents do not
provide proper examples of behaviour.

Beating? Nope. But being told NO, absolutely.

But we were talking about beating children. Michael advocates that.
Being told NO is another matter entirely.

Good Lord, you take things way too literally.

2021-10-12 14:56:30 UTC

Good Lord, you [Miss Bwuthie] take things way too literally.

She's a troll, and she's "playing" you...

--
GM

Mike Duffy

2021-10-12 15:48:50 UTC

Good Lord, you [Miss Bwuthie] take things way too literally.

She's a troll, and she's "playing" you...

+1. Classic passive aggression. Michael is not allowed to kid about how
misbehaving kids should be mentored. And if pressed, Bruce will just say
himself was kidding when he took Michael literally because he knew
Michael was kidding. It's a toxic mind game Bruce plays all the time.

By the way, since this thread is already marked 'Off-Topic' and I'm not
quite narcissistic enough to start a new thread, I wish to make two
community announcements:

1) I have implemented a working email address for use by anyone here
(except Bruce of course) should they wish to discuss anything in private,
for example to talk about Bruce behind his back. And thanks Bruce for
giving me the idea, because you are always talking about that and I
wanted to get in on it.

2) I have changed my 'Organization:' header from the Eternal-September
default of 'A noiseless patient spider' to the URL of my not-for-profit
personal website, just in case anyone wants to read my failed e-book, &c.

2021-10-12 16:09:48 UTC

Good Lord, you [Miss Bwuthie] take things way too literally.

She's a troll, and she's "playing" you...

Which is why she is the lowest form of troll, and most have her in their
twitfiles..

I very quickly learned that "engaging" Miss Bwuthie was a *total* waste of time,
newer posters will learn that too (hopefully!)...

One poster here - Joan - does respond to her, *always* beating Troll Miss Bwuthie
at her own game, now *that* is very entertaining to see. Cindy is good at
that, too. Joan and Cindy the Pragmatic and Honest Yankees easily "conquering" the
louche, useless and arrogantly stupid "Sophisticated European" Miss Bwuthie...

OH, and Leo and Ed do pretty well in unmasking Miss Bwuthie's foolishness, too...

<chuckle>

I even remove Miss Bwuthie's rubbish when *quoting* another poster, for
an example see my response to Michael above... that pisses her off... she
likes to play "victim",,,

Post by Mike Duffy
By the way, since this thread is already marked 'Off-Topic' and I'm not
quite narcissistic enough to start a new thread, I wish to make two
1) I have implemented a working email address for use by anyone here
(except Bruce of course) should they wish to discuss anything in private,
for example to talk about Bruce behind his back. And thanks Bruce for
giving me the idea, because you are always talking about that and I
wanted to get in on it.
2) I have changed my 'Organization:' header from the Eternal-September
default of 'A noiseless patient spider' to the URL of my not-for-profit
personal website, just in case anyone wants to read my failed e-book, &c.

You are a gentleman and a scholar, Mr. Duffy :-)

--
GM

Michael Trew

2021-10-13 04:29:24 UTC

Good Lord, you [Miss Bwuthie] take things way too literally.

She's a troll, and she's "playing" you...

Trust me, I pick up on the mind game. When people do that, there's no
point, just drop the discussion and move on. I avoid commenting on most
in the first place.

Bruce 0.77 Beta

2021-10-12 17:44:48 UTC

On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 10:48:33 -0400, Michael Trew

Post by Michael Trew
Kids aren't beaten enough, and we see the resulting adults.

I know you're exaggerating, Michael. For sure, some parents do not
provide proper examples of behaviour.

Beating? Nope. But being told NO, absolutely.

But we were talking about beating children. Michael advocates that.
Being told NO is another matter entirely.

Good Lord, you take things way too literally.

But you said it literally. There was no way to tell it was a joke.

Ed Pawlowski

2021-10-12 18:38:41 UTC

Post by Bruce 0.77 Beta
On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 10:48:33 -0400, Michael Trew

Post by Michael Trew
Kids aren't beaten enough, and we see the resulting adults.

I know you're exaggerating, Michael. For sure, some parents do not
provide proper examples of behaviour.

Beating? Nope. But being told NO, absolutely.

But we were talking about beating children. Michael advocates that.
Being told NO is another matter entirely.

Good Lord, you take things way too literally.

But you said it literally. There was no way to tell it was a joke.

Sorry for you lack of understanding dry humor. Do you think today
anyone would seriously advocate beating children? Openly yet?
Especially the way he fawns over his little girl.

Beating children does not work. Locking them in cages gives better
results and leaves no marks.

Would you take that seriously?

Bruce 0.77 Beta

2021-10-12 18:42:53 UTC

Post by Bruce 0.77 Beta
On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 10:48:33 -0400, Michael Trew

Post by Michael Trew
Kids aren't beaten enough, and we see the resulting adults.

I know you're exaggerating, Michael. For sure, some parents do not
provide proper examples of behaviour.

Beating? Nope. But being told NO, absolutely.

But we were talking about beating children. Michael advocates that.
Being told NO is another matter entirely.

Good Lord, you take things way too literally.

But you said it literally. There was no way to tell it was a joke.

Sorry for you lack of understanding dry humor. Do you think today
anyone would seriously advocate beating children? Openly yet?
Especially the way he fawns over his little girl.

He's a big fan of the fifties and thinks homosexuality's a sin. That
means anything's possible.

Post by Ed Pawlowski
Beating children does not work. Locking them in cages gives better
results and leaves no marks.
Would you take that seriously?

In the 50s, corporal punishment was rife. Locking up children in cages
wasn't. See the difference?

Graham

2021-10-12 19:09:47 UTC

Post by Bruce 0.77 Beta
On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 10:48:33 -0400, Michael Trew

Post by Michael Trew
Kids aren't beaten enough, and we see the resulting adults.

I know you're exaggerating, Michael. For sure, some parents do not
provide proper examples of behaviour.

Beating? Nope. But being told NO, absolutely.

But we were talking about beating children. Michael advocates that.
Being told NO is another matter entirely.

Good Lord, you take things way too literally.

But you said it literally. There was no way to tell it was a joke.

Sorry for you lack of understanding dry humor. Do you think today
anyone would seriously advocate beating children? Openly yet?
Especially the way he fawns over his little girl.
Beating children does not work. Locking them in cages gives better
results and leaves no marks.
Would you take that seriously?

Child abuse is no joking matter!

ItsJoan NotJoAnn

2021-10-12 19:29:05 UTC

Post by Bruce 0.77 Beta
On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 10:48:33 -0400, Michael Trew

Post by Michael Trew
Kids aren't beaten enough, and we see the resulting adults.

I know you're exaggerating, Michael. For sure, some parents do not
provide proper examples of behaviour.

Beating? Nope. But being told NO, absolutely.

But we were talking about beating children. Michael advocates that.
Being told NO is another matter entirely.

Good Lord, you take things way too literally.

But you said it literally. There was no way to tell it was a joke.

Sorry for you lack of understanding dry humor. Do you think today
anyone would seriously advocate beating children? Openly yet?
Especially the way he fawns over his little girl.
Beating children does not work. Locking them in cages gives better
results and leaves no marks.
Would you take that seriously?

Child abuse is no joking matter!

I called the Child Abuse Hotline and a kid answered, called me a fat
cunt, and told me to fuck off.

Bruce 0.77 Beta

2021-10-12 19:51:32 UTC

On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 15:29:05 -0400, ItsJoan NotJoAnn

Post by Bruce 0.77 Beta
On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 10:48:33 -0400, Michael Trew

Post by Michael Trew
Kids aren't beaten enough, and we see the resulting adults.

I know you're exaggerating, Michael. For sure, some parents do not
provide proper examples of behaviour.

Beating? Nope. But being told NO, absolutely.

But we were talking about beating children. Michael advocates that.
Being told NO is another matter entirely.

Good Lord, you take things way too literally.

But you said it literally. There was no way to tell it was a joke.

Sorry for you lack of understanding dry humor. Do you think today
anyone would seriously advocate beating children? Openly yet?
Especially the way he fawns over his little girl.
Beating children does not work. Locking them in cages gives better
results and leaves no marks.
Would you take that seriously?

Child abuse is no joking matter!

I called the Child Abuse Hotline and a kid answered, called me a fat
cunt, and told me to fuck off.

Ed would call that a strong-minded kid.

i***@webtv.net

2021-10-12 19:54:24 UTC

Post by ItsJoan NotJoAnn
I called the Child Abuse Hotline and a kid answered, called me a fat
cunt, and told me to fuck off.

There's a child abuse hotline?? That's news to me.

Bruce 0.77 Beta

2021-10-12 20:10:09 UTC

Post by i***@webtv.net

Post by ItsJoan NotJoAnn
I called the Child Abuse Hotline and a kid answered, called me a fat
cunt, and told me to fuck off.

There's a child abuse hotline?? That's news to me.

So each time you're being frogged, you're going to tell us?

i***@webtv.net

2021-10-12 21:57:24 UTC

Post by ItsJoan NotJoAnn
I called the Child Abuse Hotline and a kid answered, called me a fat
cunt, and told me to fuck off.

There's a child abuse hotline?? That's news to me.

So each time you're being frogged, you're going to tell us?

Ribbit, ribbit.

Michael Trew

2021-10-13 04:31:50 UTC

Post by Bruce 0.77 Beta
On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 10:48:33 -0400, Michael Trew

Post by Bruce 0.77 Beta
But we were talking about beating children. Michael advocates that.
Being told NO is another matter entirely.

Good Lord, you take things way too literally.

But you said it literally. There was no way to tell it was a joke.

Sorry for you lack of understanding dry humor. Do you think today anyone
would seriously advocate beating children? Openly yet? Especially the
way he fawns over his little girl.
Beating children does not work. Locking them in cages gives better
results and leaves no marks.
Would you take that seriously?

Thank you.

Anyone that actually beats children, in an abusive manner, wouldn't
openly post about it under their given name.

Janet

2021-10-13 12:02:04 UTC

Post by Bruce 0.77 Beta
On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 10:48:33 -0400, Michael Trew

Post by Bruce 0.77 Beta
But we were talking about beating children. Michael advocates that.
Being told NO is another matter entirely.

Good Lord, you take things way too literally.

But you said it literally. There was no way to tell it was a joke.

Sorry for you lack of understanding dry humor. Do you think today anyone
would seriously advocate beating children? Openly yet? Especially the
way he fawns over his little girl.
Beating children does not work. Locking them in cages gives better
results and leaves no marks.
Would you take that seriously?

Thank you.
Anyone that actually beats children, in an abusive manner, wouldn't
openly post about it under their given name.

REAL MEN don't joke about child abuse,Michael

Janet UKJ

Ed Pawlowski

2021-10-13 16:32:33 UTC

Post by Bruce 0.77 Beta
On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 10:48:33 -0400, Michael Trew

Post by Bruce 0.77 Beta
But we were talking about beating children. Michael advocates that.
Being told NO is another matter entirely.

Good Lord, you take things way too literally.

But you said it literally. There was no way to tell it was a joke.

Sorry for you lack of understanding dry humor. Do you think today anyone
would seriously advocate beating children? Openly yet? Especially the
way he fawns over his little girl.
Beating children does not work. Locking them in cages gives better
results and leaves no marks.
Would you take that seriously?

Thank you.
Anyone that actually beats children, in an abusive manner, wouldn't
openly post about it under their given name.

REAL MEN don't joke about child abuse,Michael
Janet UKJ

Sarcasm to make a point. Can work well, but evidently id did not here.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/the-science-of-sarcasm-yeah-right-25038/

Bruce 0.77 Beta

2021-10-13 16:44:29 UTC

Post by Michael Trew
Thank you.
Anyone that actually beats children, in an abusive manner, wouldn't
openly post about it under their given name.

REAL MEN don't joke about child abuse,Michael
Janet UKJ

Sarcasm to make a point. Can work well, but evidently id did not here.

Pawlowski Syndrome.

Ed Pawlowski

2021-10-13 17:05:40 UTC

Post by Michael Trew
Thank you.
Anyone that actually beats children, in an abusive manner, wouldn't
openly post about it under their given name.

REAL MEN don't joke about child abuse,Michael
Janet UKJ

Sarcasm to make a point. Can work well, but evidently id did not here.

Pawlowski Syndrome.

Thanks, I knew I could count on you.

Michael Trew

2021-10-13 17:59:15 UTC

Sorry for you lack of understanding dry humor. Do you think today anyone
would seriously advocate beating children? Openly yet? Especially the
way he fawns over his little girl.
Beating children does not work. Locking them in cages gives better
results and leaves no marks.
Would you take that seriously?

Thank you.
Anyone that actually beats children, in an abusive manner, wouldn't
openly post about it under their given name.

REAL MEN don't joke about child abuse,Michael
Janet UKJ

Sarcasm to make a point. Can work well, but evidently id did not here.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/the-science-of-sarcasm-yeah-right-25038/

"An inability to understand sarcasm may be an early warning sign of brain disease."

That might describe a few folks here.

Cindy Hamilton

2021-10-13 18:17:48 UTC

Sorry for you lack of understanding dry humor. Do you think today anyone
would seriously advocate beating children? Openly yet? Especially the
way he fawns over his little girl.
Beating children does not work. Locking them in cages gives better
results and leaves no marks.
Would you take that seriously?

Thank you.
Anyone that actually beats children, in an abusive manner, wouldn't
openly post about it under their given name.

REAL MEN don't joke about child abuse,Michael
Janet UKJ

Sarcasm to make a point. Can work well, but evidently id did not here.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/the-science-of-sarcasm-yeah-right-25038/

"An inability to understand sarcasm may be an early warning sign of brain disease."

That might describe a few folks here.

OTOH, it's much easier to discern sarcasm in real life than on a text-only
medium like Usenet. There's no tone of voice, facial expression, or body
language here.

Cindy Hamilton

Bruce 0.77 Beta

2021-10-13 18:23:48 UTC

On Wed, 13 Oct 2021 11:17:48 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton

"An inability to understand sarcasm may be an early warning sign of brain disease."

That might describe a few folks here.

OTOH, it's much easier to discern sarcasm in real life than on a text-only
medium like Usenet. There's no tone of voice, facial expression, or body
language here.

I might one day write an article that has the following takeaway:

"Incorrectly attributing an offensive statement to sarcasm may be an
early sign of brain disease."

You may already quote me on that.

Ed Pawlowski

2021-10-13 18:51:02 UTC

Post by Bruce 0.77 Beta
On Wed, 13 Oct 2021 11:17:48 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton

"An inability to understand sarcasm may be an early warning sign of brain disease."

That might describe a few folks here.

OTOH, it's much easier to discern sarcasm in real life than on a text-only
medium like Usenet. There's no tone of voice, facial expression, or body
language here.

"Incorrectly attributing an offensive statement to sarcasm may be an
early sign of brain disease."
You may already quote me on that.

But why would anyone?

Bruce 0.77 Beta

2021-10-13 20:37:02 UTC

Post by Bruce 0.77 Beta
On Wed, 13 Oct 2021 11:17:48 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton

"An inability to understand sarcasm may be an early warning sign of brain disease."

That might describe a few folks here.

OTOH, it's much easier to discern sarcasm in real life than on a text-only
medium like Usenet. There's no tone of voice, facial expression, or body
language here.

"Incorrectly attributing an offensive statement to sarcasm may be an
early sign of brain disease."
You may already quote me on that.

But why would anyone?

Not you, Ed. We've already established that :)

jmcquown

2021-10-13 21:51:07 UTC

Sorry for you lack of understanding dry humor. Do you think today anyone
would seriously advocate beating children? Openly yet? Especially the
way he fawns over his little girl.
Beating children does not work. Locking them in cages gives better
results and leaves no marks.
Would you take that seriously?

Thank you.
Anyone that actually beats children, in an abusive manner, wouldn't
openly post about it under their given name.

REAL MEN don't joke about child abuse,Michael
Janet UKJ

Sarcasm to make a point. Can work well, but evidently id did not here.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/the-science-of-sarcasm-yeah-right-25038/

"An inability to understand sarcasm may be an early warning sign of brain disease."

That might describe a few folks here.

OTOH, it's much easier to discern sarcasm in real life than on a text-only
medium like Usenet. There's no tone of voice, facial expression, or body
language here.
Cindy Hamilton

Ask Gary; a winky face emoticon makes all the difference.

Jill

Lucretia Borgia

2021-10-13 23:04:40 UTC

On Wed, 13 Oct 2021 11:17:48 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton

Sorry for you lack of understanding dry humor. Do you think today anyone
would seriously advocate beating children? Openly yet? Especially the
way he fawns over his little girl.
Beating children does not work. Locking them in cages gives better
results and leaves no marks.
Would you take that seriously?

Thank you.
Anyone that actually beats children, in an abusive manner, wouldn't
openly post about it under their given name.

REAL MEN don't joke about child abuse,Michael
Janet UKJ

Sarcasm to make a point. Can work well, but evidently id did not here.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/the-science-of-sarcasm-yeah-right-25038/

"An inability to understand sarcasm may be an early warning sign of brain disease."

That might describe a few folks here.

OTOH, it's much easier to discern sarcasm in real life than on a text-only
medium like Usenet. There's no tone of voice, facial expression, or body
language here.
Cindy Hamilton

In my local group years ago we tried to develop a sarcasm emoji, but
none really made us feel that was it.

Sheldon Martin

2021-10-14 12:20:02 UTC

On Wed, 13 Oct 2021 20:04:40 -0300, Lucretia Borgia

Post by Bruce 0.77 Beta
On Wed, 13 Oct 2021 11:17:48 -0700 (PDT), Cindy Hamilton

Sorry for you lack of understanding dry humor. Do you think today anyone
would seriously advocate beating children? Openly yet? Especially the
way he fawns over his little girl.
Beating children does not work. Locking them in cages gives better
results and leaves no marks.
Would you take that seriously?

Thank you.
Anyone that actually beats children, in an abusive manner, wouldn't
openly post about it under their given name.

REAL MEN don't joke about child abuse,Michael
Janet UKJ

Sarcasm to make a point. Can work well, but evidently id did not here.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/the-science-of-sarcasm-yeah-right-25038/

"An inability to understand sarcasm may be an early warning sign of brain disease."

That might describe a few folks here.

OTOH, it's much easier to discern sarcasm in real life than on a text-only
medium like Usenet. There's no tone of voice, facial expression, or body
language here.
Cindy Hamilton

In my local group years ago we tried to develop a sarcasm emoji, but
none really made us feel that was it.

( * )( * ) <---- Cindy's sarcasm emoji

Michael Trew

2021-10-14 04:43:56 UTC

Sarcasm to make a point. Can work well, but evidently id did not here.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/the-science-of-sarcasm-yeah-right-25038/

"An inability to understand sarcasm may be an early warning sign of brain disease."

That might describe a few folks here.

OTOH, it's much easier to discern sarcasm in real life than on a text-only
medium like Usenet. There's no tone of voice, facial expression, or body
language here.
Cindy Hamilton

That is very true, and a valid point. I'd like to think that everyone
here would be more pleasant to talk to in person.

Bruce 0.77 Beta

2021-10-14 04:58:27 UTC

On Thu, 14 Oct 2021 00:43:56 -0400, Michael Trew

Sarcasm to make a point. Can work well, but evidently id did not here.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/the-science-of-sarcasm-yeah-right-25038/

"An inability to understand sarcasm may be an early warning sign of brain disease."

That might describe a few folks here.

OTOH, it's much easier to discern sarcasm in real life than on a text-only
medium like Usenet. There's no tone of voice, facial expression, or body
language here.
Cindy Hamilton

That is very true, and a valid point. I'd like to think that everyone
here would be more pleasant to talk to in person.

You're not unpleasant to talk to. You just have archaic ideas here and
there and they sometimes cause a reaction.

Michael Trew

2021-10-14 05:26:49 UTC

Post by Bruce 0.77 Beta
On Thu, 14 Oct 2021 00:43:56 -0400, Michael Trew

Sarcasm to make a point. Can work well, but evidently id did not here.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/the-science-of-sarcasm-yeah-right-25038/

"An inability to understand sarcasm may be an early warning sign of brain disease."

That might describe a few folks here.

OTOH, it's much easier to discern sarcasm in real life than on a text-only
medium like Usenet. There's no tone of voice, facial expression, or body
language here.
Cindy Hamilton

That is very true, and a valid point. I'd like to think that everyone
here would be more pleasant to talk to in person.

You're not unpleasant to talk to. You just have archaic ideas here and
there and they sometimes cause a reaction.

A few posters, that I don't care to name, tend to react quite
unpleasantly to me (and toward others, at times).

As Cindy stated, the primary issue is that one cannot infer body
language from text, and the little social cues that are picked up in
conversation cannot easily be displayed via text.

Bruce 0.77 Beta

2021-10-14 05:50:45 UTC

On Thu, 14 Oct 2021 01:26:49 -0400, Michael Trew

Post by Bruce 0.77 Beta
On Thu, 14 Oct 2021 00:43:56 -0400, Michael Trew

Post by Michael Trew
That is very true, and a valid point. I'd like to think that everyone
here would be more pleasant to talk to in person.

You're not unpleasant to talk to. You just have archaic ideas here and
there and they sometimes cause a reaction.

A few posters, that I don't care to name, tend to react quite
unpleasantly to me (and toward others, at times).
As Cindy stated, the primary issue is that one cannot infer body
language from text, and the little social cues that are picked up in
conversation cannot easily be displayed via text.

Yes, smilies are about all you can do. Or rely on the hope that people
know you well enough.

2021-10-14 05:02:49 UTC

Sarcasm to make a point. Can work well, but evidently id did not here.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/the-science-of-sarcasm-yeah-right-25038/

"An inability to understand sarcasm may be an early warning sign of brain disease."

That might describe a few folks here.

OTOH, it's much easier to discern sarcasm in real life than on a text-only
medium like Usenet. There's no tone of voice, facial expression, or body
language here.
Cindy Hamilton

That is very true, and a valid point. I'd like to think that everyone
here would be more pleasant to talk to in person.

*Except* for Janet UK, lol...

In olden times such a common scold and backbiter as she would have been "dunked",
or even boiled in oil...

At the least, she should be forced to sit on a cucking stool - could YOU build
one, Michael...??? ;-)

[ This would be also quite suitable for Hillary Clintoon, Nancy Pelosi, or most ANY
female US democ__RAT__ elected official, LOL... ]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cucking_stool

Cucking stool

Cucking stools or ducking stools were chairs formerly used for punishment
of disorderly women, scolds, and dishonest tradesmen in England, Scotland, and elsewhere.
The cucking-stool was a form of wymen pine, or "women's punishment," as referred to in
Langland's Piers Plowman (1378). They were instruments of public humiliation
and censure both primarily for the offense of scolding or backbiting ..

A ballad, dating from about 1615, called "The Cucking of a Scold", illustrates
the punishment inflicted to women whose behaviour made them be identified
as "a Scold":

Then was the Scold herself,
In a wheelbarrow brought,
Stripped naked to the smock,
As in that case she ought:
Neats tongues about her neck
Were hung in open show;
And thus unto the cucking stool
This famous scold did go.

Another verse:

Now, if one cucking-stool was for each scold,
Some towns, I fear, would not their numbers hold.

Ducking Stools:

In medieval times until the early 18th century, ducking was a way used to
establish whether a suspect was a witch. The ducking stools were first
used for this purpose but ducking was later inflicted without the chair. In this
instance the subject's right thumb was bound to her left big toe. A rope was
tied around the waist of the accused and she was thrown into a river or deep
pond. If she floated, it was deemed that she was in league with the devil,
rejecting the baptismal water. If she sank, she was "cleared. And dead..."

"...AND DEAD..."

<chuckle>

--
GM

Michael Trew

2021-10-14 05:39:46 UTC

"An inability to understand sarcasm may be an early warning sign of brain disease."

That might describe a few folks here.

OTOH, it's much easier to discern sarcasm in real life than on a text-only
medium like Usenet. There's no tone of voice, facial expression, or body
language here.
Cindy Hamilton

That is very true, and a valid point. I'd like to think that everyone
here would be more pleasant to talk to in person.

*Except* for Janet UK, lol...

Maybe even her as well, but I don't hold out much hope.

Post by GM
In medieval times until the early 18th century, ducking was a way used to
establish whether a suspect was a witch. The ducking stools were first
used for this purpose but ducking was later inflicted without the chair. In this
instance the subject's right thumb was bound to her left big toe. A rope was
tied around the waist of the accused and she was thrown into a river or deep
pond. If she floated, it was deemed that she was in league with the devil,
rejecting the baptismal water. If she sank, she was "cleared. And dead..."
"...AND DEAD..."
<chuckle>

Thanks for the laugh tonight, that was awesome!

OK, I can't help myself, it's time for a Monty Python reference.

Witches burn, just like wood, and wood floats, just like ducks, so if
she weighs the same as a duck, she's made of wood, and therefore a witch!

"How do you know she is a witch?" ...

"She turned me into a newt!" ... "...I got better" LOL

dsi1

2021-10-13 19:07:01 UTC

Sorry for you lack of understanding dry humor. Do you think today anyone
would seriously advocate beating children? Openly yet? Especially the
way he fawns over his little girl.
Beating children does not work. Locking them in cages gives better
results and leaves no marks.
Would you take that seriously?

Thank you.
Anyone that actually beats children, in an abusive manner, wouldn't
openly post about it under their given name.

REAL MEN don't joke about child abuse,Michael
Janet UKJ

Sarcasm to make a point. Can work well, but evidently id did not here.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/the-science-of-sarcasm-yeah-right-25038/

"An inability to understand sarcasm may be an early warning sign of brain disease."

That might describe a few folks here.

People with old, diseased, brains also have an inability to understand when they're making ridiculously ironic statements.

Bruce 0.77 Beta

2021-10-13 20:34:22 UTC

On Wed, 13 Oct 2021 12:07:01 -0700 (PDT), dsi1

"An inability to understand sarcasm may be an early warning sign of brain disease."

That might describe a few folks here.

People with old, diseased, brains also have an inability to understand when they're making ridiculously ironic statements.

Old, diseased brain? I don't think so. He's only in his 20s.

dsi1

2021-10-13 22:04:27 UTC

Post by Bruce 0.77 Beta
On Wed, 13 Oct 2021 12:07:01 -0700 (PDT), dsi1

"An inability to understand sarcasm may be an early warning sign of brain disease."

That might describe a few folks here.

People with old, diseased, brains also have an inability to understand when they're making ridiculously ironic statements.

Old, diseased brain? I don't think so. He's only in his 20s.

I wasn't talking about Mr. Trew. I was talking about people that are constantly complaining about others endlessly responding to posts while endlessly posting about others. Oh wait... that was a joke. Never mind.

Bruce 0.77 Beta

2021-10-13 22:31:20 UTC

On Wed, 13 Oct 2021 15:04:27 -0700 (PDT), dsi1

Post by Bruce 0.77 Beta
On Wed, 13 Oct 2021 12:07:01 -0700 (PDT), dsi1

"An inability to understand sarcasm may be an early warning sign of brain disease."

That might describe a few folks here.

People with old, diseased, brains also have an inability to understand when they're making ridiculously ironic statements.

Old, diseased brain? I don't think so. He's only in his 20s.

I wasn't talking about Mr. Trew. I was talking about people that are constantly complaining about others endlessly responding to posts while endlessly posting about others.

Vague. I'm guessing it will forever be a mystery who you were talking
about.

dsi1

2021-10-13 23:00:57 UTC

Post by Bruce 0.77 Beta
On Wed, 13 Oct 2021 15:04:27 -0700 (PDT), dsi1

Post by Bruce 0.77 Beta
On Wed, 13 Oct 2021 12:07:01 -0700 (PDT), dsi1

"An inability to understand sarcasm may be an early warning sign of brain disease."

That might describe a few folks here.

People with old, diseased, brains also have an inability to understand when they're making ridiculously ironic statements.

Old, diseased brain? I don't think so. He's only in his 20s.

I wasn't talking about Mr. Trew. I was talking about people that are constantly complaining about others endlessly responding to posts while endlessly posting about others.

Vague. I'm guessing it will forever be a mystery who you were talking
about.

You're one of those guys that need everything spelled out for you. I did not know that about you. Thanks for the info.

Bruce 0.77 Beta

2021-10-13 23:07:55 UTC

On Wed, 13 Oct 2021 16:00:57 -0700 (PDT), dsi1

Post by Bruce 0.77 Beta
On Wed, 13 Oct 2021 15:04:27 -0700 (PDT), dsi1

Post by Bruce 0.77 Beta
On Wed, 13 Oct 2021 12:07:01 -0700 (PDT), dsi1

"An inability to understand sarcasm may be an early warning sign of brain disease."

That might describe a few folks here.

People with old, diseased, brains also have an inability to understand when they're making ridiculously ironic statements.

Old, diseased brain? I don't think so. He's only in his 20s.

I wasn't talking about Mr. Trew. I was talking about people that are constantly complaining about others endlessly responding to posts while endlessly posting about others.

Vague. I'm guessing it will forever be a mystery who you were talking
about.

You're one of those guys that need everything spelled out for you. I did not know that about you. Thanks for the info.

You're welcome. May you use it well.

2021-10-13 22:39:58 UTC

Post by dsi1
I wasn't talking about Mr. Trew. I was talking about people that are constantly complaining about others endlessly responding to posts while endlessly posting about others. Oh wait... that was a joke. Never mind.

Let us get down to cases, "Mr." Po' Boi - humour is simply *not* your forte...

--
GM

dsi1

2021-10-13 23:06:30 UTC

Let us get down to cases, "Mr." Po' Boi - humour is simply *not* your forte...
--
GM

In your case, being a single, unified, person is simply not *your* forte. That gives me the creeps.

Dave Smith

2021-10-13 18:46:28 UTC

Post by Bruce 0.77 Beta
On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 10:48:33 -0400, Michael Trew

Post by Bruce 0.77 Beta
But we were talking about beating children. Michael advocates that.
Being told NO is another matter entirely.

Good Lord, you take things way too literally.

But you said it literally. There was no way to tell it was a joke.

Sorry for you lack of understanding dry humor. Do you think today anyone
would seriously advocate beating children? Openly yet? Especially the
way he fawns over his little girl.
Beating children does not work. Locking them in cages gives better
results and leaves no marks.
Would you take that seriously?

Thank you.
Anyone that actually beats children, in an abusive manner, wouldn't
openly post about it under their given name.

REAL MEN don't joke about child abuse,Michael
Janet UKJ

Sarcasm to make a point. Can work well, but evidently id did not here.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/the-science-of-sarcasm-yeah-right-25038/

There is an old story about a linguistics professor who told her class
that in almost every language in the world a double negative makes a
positive, but there are no cases where a double positive makes a negative.
A guy in the back row said "Yeah. Right."

ItsJoan NotJoAnn

2021-10-13 18:28:37 UTC

Post by Janet
REAL MEN don't joke about child abuse,Michael
Janet UKJ

Real men don't pretend to be women like you and Pamela are doing
in here, "Janet UKJ".

i***@webtv.net

2021-10-13 22:03:13 UTC

Post by Janet
REAL MEN don't joke about child abuse,Michael
Janet UKJ

Real men don't pretend to be women like you and Pamela are doing
in here, "Janet UKJ".

Good grief, that was pitiful, froggy.

2021-10-13 22:07:18 UTC

Post by i***@webtv.net

Post by Janet
REAL MEN don't joke about child abuse,Michael
Janet UKJ

Real men don't pretend to be women like you and Pamela are doing
in here, "Janet UKJ".

Good grief, that was pitiful, froggy.

Lol...this "fwogger" is "shootin' blanks", as the auld saying goes...

--
GM

Bruce 0.77 Beta

2021-10-13 22:38:20 UTC

Post by i***@webtv.net

Post by Janet
REAL MEN don't joke about child abuse,Michael
Janet UKJ

Real men don't pretend to be women like you and Pamela are doing
in here, "Janet UKJ".

Good grief, that was pitiful, froggy.

lol You had to tell us again, didn't you? You must be really afraid
that the frogger damages your reputation. As if you haven't already
done that yourself :)

Dave Smith

2021-10-13 18:53:02 UTC

Post by Michael Trew
Anyone that actually beats children, in an abusive manner, wouldn't
openly post about it under their given name.

REAL MEN don't joke about child abuse,Michael

Actually REAL MEN do joke about that sort of stuff. They just have to
learn not to say those things around stuck up sticky beets who have no
sense of humor. Save the bad stuff for people who appreciate the
humour. It is the wusses who don't tell jokes like that.

dsi1

2021-10-13 19:08:41 UTC

Post by Michael Trew
Anyone that actually beats children, in an abusive manner, wouldn't
openly post about it under their given name.

REAL MEN don't joke about child abuse,Michael

"Sticky Beets?" That's pretty funny.

Dave Smith

2021-10-13 20:32:55 UTC

Post by Janet
REAL MEN don't joke about child abuse,Michael

"Sticky Beets?" That's pretty funny.

My mistake.. stuck up sticky-beaks.

dsi1

2021-10-13 21:58:06 UTC

Post by Janet
REAL MEN don't joke about child abuse,Michael

"Sticky Beets?" That's pretty funny.

My mistake.. stuck up sticky-beaks.
http://youtu.be/XxyzIC4hQvg

Thanks for the clarification. I never heard of stuck up sticky-beaks either. Sticky-beets is funnier.

2021-10-13 22:16:16 UTC

Post by Janet
REAL MEN don't joke about child abuse,Michael

"Sticky Beets?" That's pretty funny.

My mistake.. stuck up sticky-beaks.
http://youtu.be/XxyzIC4hQvg

Thanks for the clarification. I never heard of stuck up sticky-beaks either. Sticky-beets is funnier.

Yup, pretty "hilarious" there, Po' Boi...I haven't laffed so hard since I threw a
penny into a piss bum's STYROFOAM begging cup earlier today....

You and your comic sidekick Smit' up there should mebbe do a remake of "Abbott &
Costello Go To Mars"... could be a hit with the kiddie matinee set...

lol

--
GM

Sheldon Martin

2021-10-14 12:06:01 UTC

Post by Janet
REAL MEN don't joke about child abuse,Michael

"Sticky Beets?" That's pretty funny.

My mistake.. stuck up sticky-beaks.
http://youtu.be/XxyzIC4hQvg

Thanks for the clarification. I never heard of stuck up sticky-beaks either. Sticky-beets is funnier.

Sticky Beets are beets with a college degree; stuck up Harvard Beets,
my favorite.
https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/92773/grandmas-harvard-beets/
Don't drain the canning liquid, use as part of the water.

Bruce 0.77 Beta

2021-10-13 20:34:51 UTC

On Wed, 13 Oct 2021 12:08:41 -0700 (PDT), dsi1

Post by Michael Trew
Anyone that actually beats children, in an abusive manner, wouldn't
openly post about it under their given name.

REAL MEN don't joke about child abuse,Michael

"Sticky Beets?" That's pretty funny.

Sounds like the start of a pudding.

S Viemeister

2021-10-13 12:48:58 UTC

Post by Michael Trew
Anyone that actually beats children, in an abusive manner, wouldn't
openly post about it under their given name.

Hmm.
Is there actually a _non-abusive_ style of beating?

Lucretia Borgia

2021-10-13 13:11:30 UTC

On Wed, 13 Oct 2021 13:48:58 +0100, S Viemeister

Post by Michael Trew
Anyone that actually beats children, in an abusive manner, wouldn't
openly post about it under their given name.

Hmm.
Is there actually a _non-abusive_ style of beating?

I'm thinking a slap on the bum worked well for my kids. It was the
indignity, not the pain.

Sheldon Martin

2021-10-13 14:40:23 UTC

On Wed, 13 Oct 2021 13:48:58 +0100, S Viemeister

Post by Michael Trew
Anyone that actually beats children, in an abusive manner, wouldn't
openly post about it under their given name.

Hmm.
Is there actually a _non-abusive_ style of beating?

Yes. Say NO! As in no TV/no PC. Even in the 1940s and 1950s I was
punished by removing the 11" Dumont from my room for a week.

Once it backfired, was my turn to dry the dishes. I didn't because I
couldn't. I got yelled at. My parents checked and I had a fever but
they saw no reason for a fevor. After a couple hours the fevor got
worse so they phoned the doctor. In those days doctors made house
calls. The doctor lived around the corner, where he had his office.
He showed up in five minutes and knew in a minute what was wrong, I
had appendicitis. I had an emergency appendectomy that night and
spent a week in the hospital. In those days an appendidectomy was
serious surgery and required longer hospital stays. It turned out my
wound became infected and needed a drain inserted and required several
visits to the surgeon's office. To make matters worse I came home to
catch chicken pox from my younger brother... he had a mild case but
not me, I was bathed in calamine lotion for a week.

The surgeon chose for me to get a spinal to put me out. I remember
that well, even to this day. A nurse sat me up on the edge of the
bed, leaned me over and pushed my face into her massive cleavage and
held me there, that was the best part of the ordeal for a ten year
old, then the doctor stuck that huge needle in my back, the hurt was
worse than any hurt ever. That nurse just pushed my face between her
huge bosoms with all her might, I never would have endured that pain
otherwise. Then it got dark and I was out. I never got to experience
those heavy ear muffs again but I still keep hoping.

Bruce 0.77 Beta

2021-10-13 16:13:05 UTC

On Wed, 13 Oct 2021 13:48:58 +0100, S Viemeister

Post by Michael Trew
Anyone that actually beats children, in an abusive manner, wouldn't
openly post about it under their given name.

Hmm.
Is there actually a _non-abusive_ style of beating?

lol

Michael Trew

2021-10-13 17:55:02 UTC

Post by Michael Trew
Anyone that actually beats children, in an abusive manner, wouldn't
openly post about it under their given name.

Hmm.
Is there actually a _non-abusive_ style of beating?

When it's called for, not often, a spanking can be effective. I am
interchanging the terms "beating" and "spanking" here.

I was beaten with a paddle by my grandparents when I was a child. I
don't reciprocate that method, but I never felt that I was abused.

dsi1

2021-10-13 16:50:46 UTC

Post by Bruce 0.77 Beta
On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 10:48:33 -0400, Michael Trew

Post by Bruce 0.77 Beta
But we were talking about beating children. Michael advocates that.
Being told NO is another matter entirely.

Good Lord, you take things way too literally.

But you said it literally. There was no way to tell it was a joke.

Sorry for you lack of understanding dry humor. Do you think today anyone
would seriously advocate beating children? Openly yet? Especially the
way he fawns over his little girl.
Beating children does not work. Locking them in cages gives better
results and leaves no marks.
Would you take that seriously?

Thank you.
Anyone that actually beats children, in an abusive manner, wouldn't
openly post about it under their given name.

My son used to do stunts when he was a little kid. My friend would lift him up by his neck. My son would grab my friend's wrists and lift himself up, while my friend had his hands around his neck. That was funny - and alarming. He'd also run into signpost with his body and it whack it with his feet so that it looked he had smashed his head on the posts. Actually, I'm not sure how he did it but it made a loud noise. That was really alarming. My friend and I would constantly joke about beating him up - my wife did not really understand the funny about it. Mostly it's a guy thing. Of course, the only reason it's funny is because we don't believe in treating kids that way.

Janet

2021-10-13 11:57:44 UTC

Post by Bruce 0.77 Beta
On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 10:48:33 -0400, Michael Trew

Post by Michael Trew
Kids aren't beaten enough, and we see the resulting adults.

I know you're exaggerating, Michael. For sure, some parents do not
provide proper examples of behaviour.

Beating? Nope. But being told NO, absolutely.

But we were talking about beating children. Michael advocates that.
Being told NO is another matter entirely.

Good Lord, you take things way too literally.

But you said it literally. There was no way to tell it was a joke.

Sorry for you lack of understanding dry humor. Do you think today
anyone would seriously advocate beating children?

Michael repeatedly says he wishes he lived in the I950's, that golden
age when it was acceptable for men to physically punish naughty children
and women.

Janet UK

dsi1

2021-10-12 18:43:53 UTC

Post by Bruce 0.77 Beta
On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 10:48:33 -0400, Michael Trew

Post by Michael Trew
Kids aren't beaten enough, and we see the resulting adults.

I know you're exaggerating, Michael. For sure, some parents do not
provide proper examples of behaviour.

Beating? Nope. But being told NO, absolutely.

But we were talking about beating children. Michael advocates that.
Being told NO is another matter entirely.

Good Lord, you take things way too literally.

But you said it literally. There was no way to tell it was a joke.

I knew he was joking. Probably because I've had kids and used to beat them all the time.

2021-10-12 18:54:46 UTC

I knew Michael was joking. Probably because I've had kids and used to beat them all the time.

Q: Why did the EGG cross the ROAD?

A: To get BEATEN...!!!

🥚 <<==== A ___INCROYABLE___ EDIBLE EGG

🥰

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Michael Trew

2021-10-13 04:30:42 UTC

Post by Bruce 0.77 Beta
On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 10:48:33 -0400, Michael Trew

Post by Bruce 0.77 Beta
But we were talking about beating children. Michael advocates that.
Being told NO is another matter entirely.

Good Lord, you take things way too literally.

But you said it literally. There was no way to tell it was a joke.

If you can't tell from what I've posted thus forth, in general, that I'm
not a homicidal maniac, than I give up. Think whatever you want.

Bruce 0.77 Beta

2021-10-13 04:47:44 UTC

On Wed, 13 Oct 2021 00:30:42 -0400, Michael Trew

Post by Bruce 0.77 Beta
On Tue, 12 Oct 2021 10:48:33 -0400, Michael Trew

Post by Bruce 0.77 Beta
But we were talking about beating children. Michael advocates that.
Being told NO is another matter entirely.

Good Lord, you take things way too literally.

But you said it literally. There was no way to tell it was a joke.

If you can't tell from what I've posted thus forth, in general, that I'm
not a homicidal maniac, than I give up. Think whatever you want.

Beating a child and murdering a child aren't the same thing. Why do I
even have to explain this?

Michael Trew

2021-10-12 14:48:13 UTC

Post by Michael Trew
Kids aren't beaten enough, and we see the resulting adults.

I know you're exaggerating, Michael. For sure, some parents do not
provide proper examples of behaviour.

Beating? Nope. But being told NO, absolutely. When I was in my early
20's a friend came over and brought her toddler with her. I think the
girl was perhaps 2-1/2, 3 years old. While we were sitting there talking
her daughter pulled one of my hardback books off the shelf and started
ripping the pages out. My friend didn't say a word but I yelled "STOP
THAT!" and jumped up and took the book away from her. The girl started
to cry. Hell, it was a $30 book, not some dime-store novel. Her mother
got angry at *me*; how dare you yell at my child! I said if you had
bothered to do it I wouldn't have to.
Jill

Yikes.. some friend. I would be apologizing profusely if that were my
child. She should have offered to buy you another book.

Mike Duffy

2021-10-12 15:19:58 UTC

Post by Michael Trew
Yikes.. some friend. I would be apologizing profusely if that were my
child. She should have offered to buy you another book.

I agree. I remember when one of wife's classmates visited with a spoiled
brat, and after the mom removed the kid's boots, the kid literally made a
beeline for the fridge to pull down all the fridge magnets in a few
seconds.

I said nothing, but gave the mom a stern expression of incredulity.

jmcquown

2021-10-12 22:35:34 UTC

Post by Michael Trew
Yikes.. some friend. I would be apologizing profusely if that were my
child. She should have offered to buy you another book.

Fridge magnets? Maybe the kid was used to having those old alphabet
spelling magnets on her fridge at home.

Post by Mike Duffy
I said nothing, but gave the mom a stern expression of incredulity.

Uh huh. Because a look of incredulity will make all the difference.

I suppose at this juncture I should repeat an old but true story of a
woman I worked with at JCPenney at the Mall when I was about 18. She
had a two year old boy named Gary. It was her day off but we made a
date to have lunch and she brought with her. We went to Shoney's inside
the mall. The kid was in a high chair with an order of french fries and
ketchup. I was dressed for work, wearing a silk blouse and a skirt.
This little boy kept dipping fried potatoes in ketchup and throwing them
at me. All she said to him was an offhand, "Gary, quit." The child
ignored her. I got angry. I said, "Dammit! Why don't you take it away
from him?! I have to go back to work with ketchup all over my blouse!"
She was apparently used to this sort of behaviour. I never went to
lunch with her again and things were decidedly chilly afterwards at
work. So sorry, but your kid cost me a dry cleaning bill. I don't want
to be around out of control toddlers.

Jill

Dave Smith

2021-10-12 22:46:36 UTC

econds.

Fridge magnets? Maybe the kid was used to having those old alphabet
spelling magnets on her fridge at home.

Post by Mike Duffy
I said nothing, but gave the mom a stern expression of incredulity.

Uh huh. Because a look of incredulity will make all the difference.
I suppose at this juncture I should repeat an old but true story of a
woman I worked with at JCPenney at the Mall when I was about 18. She
had a two year old boy named Gary. It was her day off but we made a
date to have lunch and she brought with her. We went to Shoney's inside
the mall. The kid was in a high chair with an order of french fries and
ketchup. I was dressed for work, wearing a silk blouse and a skirt.
This little boy kept dipping fried potatoes in ketchup and throwing them
at me. All she said to him was an offhand, "Gary, quit." The child
ignored her. I got angry. I said, "Dammit! Why don't you take it away
from him?! I have to go back to work with ketchup all over my blouse!"
She was apparently used to this sort of behaviour. I never went to
lunch with her again and things were decidedly chilly afterwards at
work. So sorry, but your kid cost me a dry cleaning bill. I don't want
to be around out of control toddlers.

A word of caution if my nephew and his wife show up at your house with
their kids..... if one of them is doing something unacceptable don't
dare to tell them "No" The kids are special and have to be re-directed.

jmcquown

2021-10-12 23:13:11 UTC

Post by Mike Duffy
econds.

Fridge magnets? Maybe the kid was used to having those old alphabet
spelling magnets on her fridge at home.

Post by Mike Duffy
I said nothing, but gave the mom a stern expression of incredulity.

Uh huh. Because a look of incredulity will make all the difference.
I suppose at this juncture I should repeat an old but true story of a
woman I worked with at JCPenney at the Mall when I was about 18. She
had a two year old boy named Gary. It was her day off but we made a
date to have lunch and she brought with her. We went to Shoney's
inside the mall. The kid was in a high chair with an order of french
fries and ketchup. I was dressed for work, wearing a silk blouse and
a skirt. This little boy kept dipping fried potatoes in ketchup and
throwing them at me. All she said to him was an offhand, "Gary,
quit." The child ignored her. I got angry. I said, "Dammit! Why
don't you take it away from him?! I have to go back to work with
ketchup all over my blouse!" She was apparently used to this sort of
behaviour. I never went to lunch with her again and things were
decidedly chilly afterwards at work. So sorry, but your kid cost me a
dry cleaning bill. I don't want to be around out of control toddlers.

Fortunately I haven't had to deal with that sort of behaviour from
friends' children in decades. All those children are grown now and were
only my problem for brief encounters. I'm pretty darn sure the spoiled
brats gave their parent(s) problems for many years, especially once they
became teens.

Jill

Sheldon Martin

2021-10-12 23:06:43 UTC

Post by Michael Trew
Yikes.. some friend. I would be apologizing profusely if that were my
child. She should have offered to buy you another book.

Fridge magnets? Maybe the kid was used to having those old alphabet
spelling magnets on her fridge at home.

Post by Mike Duffy
I said nothing, but gave the mom a stern expression of incredulity.

Uh huh. Because a look of incredulity will make all the difference.
I suppose at this juncture I should repeat an old but true story of a
woman I worked with at JCPenney at the Mall when I was about 18. She
had a two year old boy named Gary. It was her day off but we made a
date to have lunch and she brought with her. We went to Shoney's inside
the mall. The kid was in a high chair with an order of french fries and
ketchup. I was dressed for work, wearing a silk blouse and a skirt.
This little boy kept dipping fried potatoes in ketchup and throwing them
at me. All she said to him was an offhand, "Gary, quit." The child
ignored her. I got angry. I said, "Dammit! Why don't you take it away
from him?! I have to go back to work with ketchup all over my blouse!"
She was apparently used to this sort of behaviour. I never went to
lunch with her again and things were decidedly chilly afterwards at
work. So sorry, but your kid cost me a dry cleaning bill. I don't want
to be around out of control toddlers.
Jill

When people visited, especially with kids, there were never any
misbehavior problems, I have that quiet look that can kill... that I
learned from my first grade teacher, Mrs. Ensvieg, an elderly Kraut.
She was always armed, everyone called her Yardstick.

Hank Rogers

2021-10-12 23:26:29 UTC

Post by Sheldon Martin

Post by Michael Trew
Yikes.. some friend. I would be apologizing profusely if that were my
child. She should have offered to buy you another book.

Fridge magnets? Maybe the kid was used to having those old alphabet
spelling magnets on her fridge at home.

Post by Mike Duffy
I said nothing, but gave the mom a stern expression of incredulity.

Uh huh. Because a look of incredulity will make all the difference.
I suppose at this juncture I should repeat an old but true story of a
woman I worked with at JCPenney at the Mall when I was about 18. She
had a two year old boy named Gary. It was her day off but we made a
date to have lunch and she brought with her. We went to Shoney's inside
the mall. The kid was in a high chair with an order of french fries and
ketchup. I was dressed for work, wearing a silk blouse and a skirt.
This little boy kept dipping fried potatoes in ketchup and throwing them
at me. All she said to him was an offhand, "Gary, quit." The child
ignored her. I got angry. I said, "Dammit! Why don't you take it away
from him?! I have to go back to work with ketchup all over my blouse!"
She was apparently used to this sort of behaviour. I never went to
lunch with her again and things were decidedly chilly afterwards at
work. So sorry, but your kid cost me a dry cleaning bill. I don't want
to be around out of control toddlers.
Jill

Popeye, did Mrs Ensvieg have enormous titties?

And did yoose fondle them?

Bruce 0.77 Beta

2021-10-12 23:49:10 UTC

Post by Sheldon Martin

Post by jmcquown
I suppose at this juncture I should repeat an old but true story of a
woman I worked with at JCPenney at the Mall when I was about 18. She
had a two year old boy named Gary. It was her day off but we made a
date to have lunch and she brought with her. We went to Shoney's inside
the mall. The kid was in a high chair with an order of french fries and
ketchup. I was dressed for work, wearing a silk blouse and a skirt.
This little boy kept dipping fried potatoes in ketchup and throwing them
at me. All she said to him was an offhand, "Gary, quit." The child
ignored her. I got angry. I said, "Dammit! Why don't you take it away
from him?! I have to go back to work with ketchup all over my blouse!"
She was apparently used to this sort of behaviour. I never went to
lunch with her again and things were decidedly chilly afterwards at
work. So sorry, but your kid cost me a dry cleaning bill. I don't want
to be around out of control toddlers.
Jill

You forgot to describe her bosom. Zoftig, one would hope?

Mike Duffy

2021-10-12 23:09:01 UTC

Post by jmcquown
Fridge magnets? Maybe the kid was used to having those old alphabet
spelling magnets on her fridge at home.

They *were* alphabet spelling magnets belonging to my kid.

But I surmise it was more a case of the kid being used to having them on
the floor in front of the fridge at home.

At my Dad's house, he had a friend over who brought along her grandchild.

My Dad knew the stairs going doing down to the basement were treacherous
because they were way steeper than 'code' and also each step was slanted
down because they had actually been level wherever he got them from.

A good fraction of people fell down those stairs even with proper
warning. As kids, we would always turn to face the stairs and go down as
with a ladder using our hands as well.

So my Dad says to the kid: "Don't go through that door or else ...", but
that's as far as he got. My Dad had forgotten to get into a goalkeeper
stance between the kid and the door, and the kid managed to open the door
on the run and actually become airborne in the darkened stairway. Thusly,
it claimed another broken leg.

jmcquown

2021-10-12 22:24:52 UTC

Post by Michael Trew
Kids aren't beaten enough, and we see the resulting adults.

I know you're exaggerating, Michael. For sure, some parents do not
provide proper examples of behaviour.

Beating? Nope. But being told NO, absolutely. When I was in my early
20's a friend came over and brought her toddler with her. I think the
girl was perhaps 2-1/2, 3 years old. While we were sitting there talking
her daughter pulled one of my hardback books off the shelf and started
ripping the pages out. My friend didn't say a word but I yelled "STOP
THAT!" and jumped up and took the book away from her. The girl started
to cry. Hell, it was a $30 book, not some dime-store novel. Her mother
got angry at *me*; how dare you yell at my child! I said if you had
bothered to do it I wouldn't have to.
Jill

Yikes.. some friend. I would be apologizing profusely if that were my
child. She should have offered to buy you another book.

We remained friends until she and the child moved to another state. No,
she didn't offer to replace the book but she knew better than to bring
the girl to my house again.

Jill

Michael Trew

2021-10-13 04:39:13 UTC

Beating? Nope. But being told NO, absolutely. When I was in my early
20's a friend came over and brought her toddler with her. I think the
girl was perhaps 2-1/2, 3 years old. While we were sitting there talking
her daughter pulled one of my hardback books off the shelf and started
ripping the pages out. My friend didn't say a word but I yelled "STOP
THAT!" and jumped up and took the book away from her. The girl started
to cry. Hell, it was a $30 book, not some dime-store novel. Her mother
got angry at *me*; how dare you yell at my child! I said if you had
bothered to do it I wouldn't have to.
Jill

Yikes.. some friend. I would be apologizing profusely if that were my
child. She should have offered to buy you another book.

We remained friends until she and the child moved to another state. No,
she didn't offer to replace the book but she knew better than to bring
the girl to my house again.
Jill

I'm sure that you most likely told her that it wasn't necessary, but it
would have been proper etiquette to offer to replace it.

I don't understand parents that are afraid to tell their children "no".
I'll (borderline) make a scene in public scolding her if need be.
I've noticed she's starting to get to the age where such things start to
embarrass her, and I think that's a very good deterrent from doing
things that I'd scold her for.

Dave Smith

2021-10-11 16:24:11 UTC

People have been nasty to restaurant staff during this pandemic. I was
in the liquor store the other day and heard the strangest announcement.
It started off about masking and maintaining social distance and then
went on to talk about how their staff has been working hard to help
people so please me nice to them and if they are helpful please remember
to say thank you. WTF? Customers are being told they should say thank
you to staff?? Gimmee a break. My inclination is to be polite and
courteous to store clerks and wait staff. I would normally say please
and thank you, but I found it annoying to be told to do that.

If they are that bad and they abuse the staff they should be kicked out.
Management should then stand behind the employees. But to have a public
announcement in the store telling customers to say thank you to the staff??

Bruce 0.77 Beta

2021-10-11 18:12:20 UTC

On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 12:24:11 -0400, Dave Smith

People have been nasty to restaurant staff during this pandemic. I was
in the liquor store the other day and heard the strangest announcement.
It started off about masking and maintaining social distance and then
went on to talk about how their staff has been working hard to help
people so please me nice to them and if they are helpful please remember
to say thank you. WTF? Customers are being told they should say thank
you to staff?? Gimmee a break. My inclination is to be polite and
courteous to store clerks and wait staff. I would normally say please
and thank you, but I found it annoying to be told to do that.

It's patronising and childish, I agree.

Bruce 0.77 Beta

2021-10-13 14:22:17 UTC

People have been nasty to restaurant staff during this pandemic. I was
in the liquor store the other day and heard the strangest announcement.
It started off about masking and maintaining social distance and then
went on to talk about how their staff has been working hard to help
people so please me nice to them and if they are helpful please remember
to say thank you. WTF? Customers are being told they should say thank
you to staff?? Gimmee a break. My inclination is to be polite and
courteous to store clerks and wait staff. I would normally say please
and thank you, but I found it annoying to be told to do that.

There is a reason socialism has never succeeded: It runs directly counter to human nature. Socialist regimes either collapse or survive only by becoming less socialist; the more a country embraces economic freedom and free markets, the more prosperous it becomes. Economic freedom is the antidote to socialism, and human nature yearns for it – because it recognizes individuals, respects them and endows them with a great deal of responsibility to take charge of their own lives and lift one another up.

S Viemeister

2021-10-11 16:40:40 UTC

Really, Michael??? 'Kids aren't beaten enough'? I do hope you don't
really believe that.

My kids were not beaten. Not ever. They grew into thoughtful, likeable,
responsible, honest, adults with good manners, whose company I would
enjoy, even were they not my offspring.

They were taught good manners by example, not by being smacked around.

Michael Trew

2021-10-11 19:48:01 UTC

Really, Michael??? 'Kids aren't beaten enough'? I do hope you don't
really believe that.
My kids were not beaten. Not ever. They grew into thoughtful, likeable,
responsible, honest, adults with good manners, whose company I would
enjoy, even were they not my offspring.
They were taught good manners by example, not by being smacked around.

I don't beat children, although I'm tempted with very poorly raised
children. See my reply to Mike.

Graham

2021-10-11 19:49:42 UTC

On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 11:44:23 -0400, Michael Trew

Post by Michael Trew
Kids aren't beaten enough, and we see the resulting adults.

Poor daughter.

Indeed! He should get a vasectomy!!!

Bruce 0.77 Beta

2021-10-12 00:30:14 UTC

On Mon, 11 Oct 2021 11:44:23 -0400, Michael Trew

Post by Michael Trew
Kids aren't beaten enough, and we see the resulting adults.

Poor daughter.

Indeed! He should get a vasectomy!!!

“Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but
then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views.”

― William F. Buckley

Bruce 0.77 Beta

2021-10-14 05:34:05 UTC