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saracene
2017-10-11 11:52:28 UTC
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I don't think I'm a prude, and I can appreciate the casting couch as a legitimate perk for movie mougls, but asking a young woman to come into the toilet to watch you masturbate, epsecially ehrn you're as old and fat as he is, strikes me as disgusting.
abelard
2017-10-11 12:14:29 UTC
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On Wed, 11 Oct 2017 04:52:28 -0700 (PDT), saracene
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I don't think I'm a prude, and I can appreciate the casting couch as a legitimate perk for movie mougls, but asking a young woman to come into the toilet to watch you masturbate, epsecially ehrn you're as old and fat as he is, strikes me as disgusting.
everyone to their own perversions...

everyone trades with their prime assets....

with winestain, beauty is not one of his assets...
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saracene
2017-10-13 21:50:45 UTC
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On Wed, 11 Oct 2017 04:52:28 -0700 (PDT), saracene
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I don't think I'm a prude, and I can appreciate the casting couch as a legitimate perk for movie mougls, but asking a young woman to come into the toilet to watch you masturbate, epsecially ehrn you're as old and fat as he is, strikes me as disgusting.
everyone to their own perversions...
Perhaps I should be more tolerant. I am starting to feel sorry for him. I said I find some of his alleged behaviour disgusting. I also find Tracy Emin's public display of her skidmarks disgusting, but I wouldn't want to ban it, Tima Brown and Emma Thompson have reacted by saying it is time for women to get more power. Why they should be given it in preference to for example, myself, is not made clear. I know they want it but so do I for myself. There is this fatuous idea that goodness and justice means just what certain women who claim to speak for their whole sex happen to desire. There was a black tranny on the Andrew Neil week show on Thursday who seemed to think it was an absolute moral imperative to give him/her/it what it wants too.
Handsome Jack
2017-10-14 07:53:34 UTC
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Tima Brown and Emma Thompson have reacted by saying it is time for
women to get more power. Why they should be given it in preference to
for example, myself, is not made clear. I know they want it but so do
I for myself. There is this fatuous idea that goodness and justice
means just what certain women who claim to speak for their whole sex
happen to desire. There was a black tranny on the Andrew Neil week show
on Thursday who seemed to think it was an absolute moral imperative to
give him/her/it what it wants too.
Stories like the Weinstein one are not really intended as reporting of
actual events. They are more of a vehicle for political lobbying aimed
at changing society, in this case to reinforce the feminist campaign for
a legal system in which any man can be immediately imprisoned on the
uncorroborated word of any woman.
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abelard
2017-10-14 09:57:27 UTC
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Tima Brown and Emma Thompson have reacted by saying it is time for
women to get more power. Why they should be given it in preference to
for example, myself, is not made clear. I know they want it but so do
I for myself. There is this fatuous idea that goodness and justice
means just what certain women who claim to speak for their whole sex
happen to desire. There was a black tranny on the Andrew Neil week show
on Thursday who seemed to think it was an absolute moral imperative to
give him/her/it what it wants too.
yes, i saw that...all socialists are that way..and many another
religious fundy...
she was too inexperienced to cover her tracks...that film would
make a good classroom demo
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Stories like the Weinstein one are not really intended as reporting of
actual events. They are more of a vehicle for political lobbying aimed
at changing society, in this case to reinforce the feminist campaign for
a legal system in which any man can be immediately imprisoned on the
uncorroborated word of any woman.
that's about right...

males have their stinky sneaky ways and so do females...

kill her she's a witch...kill him he's a warlock...

this latest circus is as o'barmy would have said had he been
honest is 'a teaching moment'...
he's bullying me...

as if humans aren't trying it on every day god allows the sun
to shine...what do they believe the dance between theresa
and barmier is about??
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saracene
2017-10-16 15:33:25 UTC
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Here is a very intersting article in today's Standard that does throw some light on Weinstein's unusual character:-

https://www.standard.co.uk/lifestyle/london-life/this-is-what-its-really-like-to-live-with-a-sex-addict-a3659496.html

I was surprised to read on Twitter a respected journalist who campaigns for mental health balk at the suggestion Harvey Weinstein might suffer from a mental illness. Another said, definitively, that he was not a sex addict, that he was an abuser. I thought to myself: “But you can be all three: you can be a sex addict, have mental health issues and be an abuser.”

The sex addict/mentally ill-abuser is very familiar to me. Among the things my ex would do was follow me around the house masturbating. Sometimes he’d be in a bathrobe, sometimes not. I remember washing my hair in the shower and opening my eyes to see him on the other side of the glass, masturbating. In restaurants he would follow me to the loo trying to grope me, like a Benny Hill character with hands outstretched, flexing for a squeeze. No matter where we were — train, car, meeting, church — he’d grab my hand to his priapic crotch. If he’d taken me to a basement to watch him masturbate into a plant pot, I wouldn’t have raised an eyebrow. He would call me at work to audibly orgasm from the other end of the line. A female colleague I confided in was terrified of answering my phone.
Handsome Jack
2017-10-17 07:02:38 UTC
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Post by saracene
Here is a very intersting article in today's Standard that does throw
some light on Weinstein's unusual character:-
https://www.standard.co.uk/lifestyle/london-life/this-is-what-its-really
-like-to-live-with-a-sex-addict-a3659496.html
I was surprised to read on Twitter a respected journalist who campaigns
for mental health balk at the suggestion Harvey Weinstein might suffer
from a mental illness. Another said, definitively, that he was not a
sex addict, that he was an abuser. I thought to myself: “But you can
be all three: you can be a sex addict, have mental health issues and be
an abuser.”
The sex addict/mentally ill-abuser is very familiar to me. Among the
things my ex would do was follow me around the house masturbating.
Sometimes he’d be in a bathrobe, sometimes not. I remember washing my
hair in the shower and opening my eyes to see him on the other side of
the glass, masturbating. In restaurants he would follow me to the loo
trying to grope me, like a Benny Hill character with hands
outstretched, flexing for a squeeze. No matter where we were — train,
car, meeting, church — he’d grab my hand to his priapic crotch. If
he’d taken me to a basement to watch him masturbate into a plant pot,
I wouldn’t have raised an eyebrow. He would call me at work to
audibly orgasm from the other end of the line. A female colleague I
confided in was terrified of answering my phone.
But what did he do wrong?
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ssos@bungay.com
2017-10-11 15:02:44 UTC
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I don't think I'm a prude, and I can appreciate the casting couch as a legitimate perk for movie mougls, but asking a young woman to come into the toilet to watch you masturbate, epsecially ehrn you're as old and fat as he is, strikes me as disgusting.
He seems to be a slob of the worst kind, who believes that women actually like him.
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abelard
2017-10-11 15:07:08 UTC
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I don't think I'm a prude, and I can appreciate the casting couch as a legitimate perk for movie mougls, but asking a young woman to come into the toilet to watch you masturbate, epsecially ehrn you're as old and fat as he is, strikes me as disgusting.
He seems to be a slob of the worst kind, who believes that women actually like him.
guess how they behave around him
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2017-10-11 15:14:32 UTC
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I don't think I'm a prude, and I can appreciate the casting couch as a legitimate perk for movie mougls, but asking a young woman to come into the toilet to watch you masturbate, epsecially ehrn you're as old and fat as he is, strikes me as disgusting.
He seems to be a slob of the worst kind, who believes that women actually like him.
guess how they behave around him
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I could guess, but that's all it would be - a guess.

I don't know how women behave around him, because I am not privy to those kinds of meetings/interactions. Perhaps you are, and so I would love to see your first hand accounts.

I presume that he likes abusing his power to hire (or not) certain women for starring roles, and they are either too naive or too desperate to avoid upsetting him, that they just quietly put up with any demand or humiliation?
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abelard
2017-10-11 15:19:59 UTC
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I don't think I'm a prude, and I can appreciate the casting couch as a legitimate perk for movie mougls, but asking a young woman to come into the toilet to watch you masturbate, epsecially ehrn you're as old and fat as he is, strikes me as disgusting.
He seems to be a slob of the worst kind, who believes that women actually like him.
guess how they behave around him
I could guess, but that's all it would be - a guess.
I don't know how women behave around him, because I am not privy to those kinds of meetings/interactions. Perhaps you are, and so I would love to see your first hand accounts.
yes, i do know exactly how most women behave around power
and money

but i'm not telling you or the screws of the world
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I presume that he likes abusing his power to hire (or not) certain women for starring roles, and they are either too naive or too desperate to avoid upsetting him, that they just quietly put up with any demand or humiliation?
yeah, they sit shyly in the corner hoping he will notice them..or not.
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ssos@bungay.com
2017-10-11 15:30:25 UTC
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I don't think I'm a prude, and I can appreciate the casting couch as a legitimate perk for movie mougls, but asking a young woman to come into the toilet to watch you masturbate, epsecially ehrn you're as old and fat as he is, strikes me as disgusting.
He seems to be a slob of the worst kind, who believes that women actually like him.
guess how they behave around him
I could guess, but that's all it would be - a guess.
I don't know how women behave around him, because I am not privy to those kinds of meetings/interactions. Perhaps you are, and so I would love to see your first hand accounts.
yes, i do know exactly how most women behave around power
and money
but i'm not telling you or the screws of the world
So presumably, there are women dropping their kecks around Donald Trump on an hourly basis?
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I presume that he likes abusing his power to hire (or not) certain women for starring roles, and they are either too naive or too desperate to avoid upsetting him, that they just quietly put up with any demand or humiliation?
yeah, they sit shyly in the corner hoping he will notice them..or not.
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abelard
2017-10-11 15:34:37 UTC
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I don't think I'm a prude, and I can appreciate the casting couch as a legitimate perk for movie mougls, but asking a young woman to come into the toilet to watch you masturbate, epsecially ehrn you're as old and fat as he is, strikes me as disgusting.
He seems to be a slob of the worst kind, who believes that women actually like him.
guess how they behave around him
I could guess, but that's all it would be - a guess.
I don't know how women behave around him, because I am not privy to those kinds of meetings/interactions. Perhaps you are, and so I would love to see your first hand accounts.
yes, i do know exactly how most women behave around power
and money
but i'm not telling you or the screws of the world
So presumably, there are women dropping their kecks around Donald Trump on an hourly basis?
by all accounts that was his situation for decades....

he seems now to be more cautious and getting past it, as one does....

sadly nothing like that in bungay eh!
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I presume that he likes abusing his power to hire (or not) certain women for starring roles, and they are either too naive or too desperate to avoid upsetting him, that they just quietly put up with any demand or humiliation?
yeah, they sit shyly in the corner hoping he will notice them..or not.
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ssos@bungay.com
2017-10-11 15:59:50 UTC
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I don't think I'm a prude, and I can appreciate the casting couch as a legitimate perk for movie mougls, but asking a young woman to come into the toilet to watch you masturbate, epsecially ehrn you're as old and fat as he is, strikes me as disgusting.
He seems to be a slob of the worst kind, who believes that women actually like him.
guess how they behave around him
I could guess, but that's all it would be - a guess.
I don't know how women behave around him, because I am not privy to those kinds of meetings/interactions. Perhaps you are, and so I would love to see your first hand accounts.
yes, i do know exactly how most women behave around power
and money
but i'm not telling you or the screws of the world
So presumably, there are women dropping their kecks around Donald Trump on an hourly basis?
by all accounts that was his situation for decades....
he seems now to be more cautious and getting past it, as one does....
sadly nothing like that in bungay eh!
I very much doubt it. Maybe Norfolk women go commando in the first place?

However, it may be all different in Beccles.
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I presume that he likes abusing his power to hire (or not) certain women for starring roles, and they are either too naive or too desperate to avoid upsetting him, that they just quietly put up with any demand or humiliation?
yeah, they sit shyly in the corner hoping he will notice them..or not.
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Incubus
2017-10-11 16:07:07 UTC
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I don't think I'm a prude, and I can appreciate the casting couch as a legitimate perk for movie mougls, but asking a young woman to come into the toilet to watch you masturbate, epsecially ehrn you're as old and fat as he is, strikes me as disgusting.
He seems to be a slob of the worst kind, who believes that women actually like him.
guess how they behave around him
I could guess, but that's all it would be - a guess.
I don't know how women behave around him, because I am not privy to those kinds of meetings/interactions. Perhaps you are, and so I would love to see your first hand accounts.
yes, i do know exactly how most women behave around power
and money
but i'm not telling you or the screws of the world
So presumably, there are women dropping their kecks around Donald Trump on an hourly basis?
by all accounts that was his situation for decades....
he seems now to be more cautious and getting past it, as one does....
sadly nothing like that in bungay eh!
I very much doubt it. Maybe Norfolk women go commando in the first place?
Bungay is in Suffuck.

But I think you know that...
ssos@bungay.com
2017-10-11 16:39:19 UTC
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I don't think I'm a prude, and I can appreciate the casting couch as a legitimate perk for movie mougls, but asking a young woman to come into the toilet to watch you masturbate, epsecially ehrn you're as old and fat as he is, strikes me as disgusting.
He seems to be a slob of the worst kind, who believes that women actually like him.
guess how they behave around him
I could guess, but that's all it would be - a guess.
I don't know how women behave around him, because I am not privy to those kinds of meetings/interactions. Perhaps you are, and so I would love to see your first hand accounts.
yes, i do know exactly how most women behave around power
and money
but i'm not telling you or the screws of the world
So presumably, there are women dropping their kecks around Donald Trump on an hourly basis?
by all accounts that was his situation for decades....
he seems now to be more cautious and getting past it, as one does....
sadly nothing like that in bungay eh!
I very much doubt it. Maybe Norfolk women go commando in the first place?
Bungay is in Suffuck.
But I think you know that...
No I don't. Why should I?

I have never been there.


Some folk jumped to the conclusion that I lived there, but as with all right wing apologists on usenet there is a rule which insists that if a lie is told enough times it becomes the truth.

However, that was well before your nym appeared (or you reinvented yourself) so how you knew about all this is a mystery.

As I mentioned to your alter ego years ago, I have lived closer to Dublin for the last 40 years, than I have to Bungay; but I know how difficult it is for some to admit being wrong, so just to humour you I will pretend I know that Bungay isn't in Norfolk.
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saracene
2017-10-11 16:49:28 UTC
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I don't think I'm a prude, and I can appreciate the casting couch as a legitimate perk for movie mougls, but asking a young woman to come into the toilet to watch you masturbate, epsecially ehrn you're as old and fat as he is, strikes me as disgusting.
He seems to be a slob of the worst kind, who believes that women actually like him.
guess how they behave around him
I could guess, but that's all it would be - a guess.
I don't know how women behave around him, because I am not privy to those kinds of meetings/interactions. Perhaps you are, and so I would love to see your first hand accounts.
yes, i do know exactly how most women behave around power
and money
but i'm not telling you or the screws of the world
So presumably, there are women dropping their kecks around Donald Trump on an hourly basis?
by all accounts that was his situation for decades....
he seems now to be more cautious and getting past it, as one does....
sadly nothing like that in bungay eh!
I very much doubt it. Maybe Norfolk women go commando in the first place?
Bungay is in Suffuck.
But I think you know that...
No I don't. Why should I?
I have never been there.
Some folk jumped to the conclusion that I lived there, but as with all right wing apologists on usenet there is a rule which insists that if a lie is told enough times it becomes the truth.
However, that was well before your nym appeared (or you reinvented yourself) so how you knew about all this is a mystery.
As I mentioned to your alter ego years ago, I have lived closer to Dublin for the last 40 years, than I have to Bungay; but I know how difficult it is for some to admit being wrong, so just to humour you I will pretend I know that Bungay isn't in Norfolk.
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He is better known from later English legend, which made him Roger Bacon's sidekick in the stories that developed around that scholar's knowledge of alchemy and supposed mastery of magic.[1][14][15] In some versions, he is killed by the German mage Vandermast.[14]

Bungay may owe his magical reputation to a separate Friar Bungay, who seems to have been a magician in the 15th century

Thank you for getting me to look that up. I didn't know abut the second one.
Incubus
2017-10-12 08:13:04 UTC
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sadly nothing like that in bungay eh!
I very much doubt it. Maybe Norfolk women go commando in the
first place?
Bungay is in Suffuck.
But I think you know that...
No I don't. Why should I?
I have never been there.
Some folk jumped to the conclusion that I lived there, but as with
all right wing apologists on usenet there is a rule which insists
that if a lie is told enough times it becomes the truth.
However, that was well before your nym appeared (or you reinvented
yourself) so how you knew about all this is a mystery.
I have been using this nym since Autumn 1996.
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As I mentioned to your alter ego years ago, I have lived closer to
Dublin for the last 40 years, than I have to Bungay;
I do recall such a conversation. However, I remember it was with a chap
calling himself sutartsorric...
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but I know how
difficult it is for some to admit being wrong, so just to humour you
I will pretend I know that Bungay isn't in Norfolk.
Good chap.
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2017-10-12 16:15:23 UTC
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sadly nothing like that in bungay eh!
I very much doubt it. Maybe Norfolk women go commando in the
first place?
Bungay is in Suffuck.
But I think you know that...
No I don't. Why should I?
I have never been there.
Some folk jumped to the conclusion that I lived there, but as with
all right wing apologists on usenet there is a rule which insists
that if a lie is told enough times it becomes the truth.
However, that was well before your nym appeared (or you reinvented
yourself) so how you knew about all this is a mystery.
I have been using this nym since Autumn 1996.
Maybe, but that does not disclose whether you have also been using other nyms when the mood takes you, and just returning to this when it suits.
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As I mentioned to your alter ego years ago, I have lived closer to
Dublin for the last 40 years, than I have to Bungay;
I do recall such a conversation. However, I remember it was with a chap
calling himself sutartsorric...
That is just cirrostratus backwards.

It is a cloud.

Come back when you have regained a sense of humour.
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difficult it is for some to admit being wrong, so just to humour you
I will pretend I know that Bungay isn't in Norfolk.
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saracene
2017-11-01 07:52:54 UTC
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I don't think I'm a prude, and I can appreciate the casting couch as a legitimate perk for movie mougls, but asking a young woman to come into the toilet to watch you masturbate, epsecially ehrn you're as old and fat as he is, strikes me as disgusting.
This latest account, not by an actress but a temping admin assistant, is interesting. I would say it sounds less about power than a sick compulsion. I wonder how he is getting on in rehab?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/10/31/woman-left-shaken-encountering-weinstein-london-hotel/

Sophie Morris says she was just 19 and on her first day as an intern at Miramax when a naked Weinstein beckoned her into his bedroom at the Savoy Hotel in London in 1990 or 1991.

Speaking to the BBC, Ms Morris, now 44, claimed she saw him naked in the bath and, when he went through to the bedroom, he asked her to give him a massage.

Ms Morris, who claims she cannot remember all the details about the incident, said: “I remember sitting in the lounge area. I must have answered the phone a couple of times, shuffled some papers.
“He was basically lying naked on the bed,” Ms Morris, who has waived her right to anonymity, said. “And then I don't actually remember if I did touch him. But I was sitting sideways on the bed and I remember my top coming off.

Recalling a “disgusting rash” on his body, she said that she was left shaken and had “shut down” the incident in her memory, but wanted to reveal her experiences to show that Weinstein’s ‘victims’ were not just celebrities and actors.
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