[indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK handbook published today

[Perry Ismangil]

Bagi yang akan jadi permanent resident, ada buku baru untuk ujiannya:

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/newsarticles/2013/january/37-new-handbook

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[Lilis Mulyawati]

Terima kasih untuk email dan info ya Pak Perry.

Tanya sedikit ya Pak, kalau applicant sudah mengambil test terse but di atas tetapi tidak jadi apply residency hasil test tersebut hangus atau masih bisa berlaku sampai jangka waktu tertentu. Atau apakah isi test selalu dirubah dari waktu ke waktu.

Semoga Pak Perry atau teman-teman Indo expat lain bisa membantu.

Terima kasih

Lilis Mulyawati



On 29 Jan 2013, at 15:04, "Perry Ismangil" <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> Bagi yang akan jadi permanent resident, ada buku baru untuk ujiannya:
>
> http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/newsarticles/2013/january/37-new-handbook
>
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[Perry Ismangil]

Setahu saya hasil test berlaku seumur hidup.

Jadi sekali ambil tidak perlu ambil lagi.

Although I'm sure they will tinker with that in the future!

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On 31 Jan 2013 08:18, "Lilis Mulyawati" <lilis_mulya-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> Terima kasih untuk email dan info ya Pak Perry.
>
> Tanya sedikit ya Pak, kalau applicant sudah mengambil test terse but di
> atas tetapi tidak jadi apply residency hasil test tersebut hangus atau
> masih bisa berlaku sampai jangka waktu tertentu. Atau apakah isi test
> selalu dirubah dari waktu ke waktu.
>
> Semoga Pak Perry atau teman-teman Indo expat lain bisa membantu.
>
> Terima kasih
>
> Lilis Mulyawati
>
>
>
> On 29 Jan 2013, at 15:04, "Perry Ismangil" <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> > Bagi yang akan jadi permanent resident, ada buku baru untuk ujiannya:
> >
> >
> http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/newsarticles/2013/january/37-new-handbook
> >
> > --
> > Perry Ismangil
> > me.ismangil.com
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[Andreas]

Saya juga sependat. Kalau sudha secepatnay saja.
Di lihat dari segala sisi tidak ada ruginya, hanya untungnya.

Kalau citizenship barangakali masih perlu di timbang karena samapi saaat ini RI tidak mengakui dual citizenhip untuk orang dewasa


Salam





>________________________________
> From: Eddy Manurung <eddy.manurung-***@public.gmane.org>
>To: Adi <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
>Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 9:32
>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK handbook published today
>
>Benar kata Mas Perry...sertifikatnya juga bisa dipake kalau mau apply
>passport merah...
>Tapi kalau udah lulus, segeralah ambil PR nya...makin tahun makin sulit dan
>mahal...
>
>
>2013/1/31 Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>
>> Setahu saya hasil test berlaku seumur hidup.
>>
>> Jadi sekali ambil tidak perlu ambil lagi.
>>
>> Although I'm sure they will tinker with that in the future!
>>
>> --
>> Perry Ismangil
>> me.ismangil.com
>>  On 31 Jan 2013 08:18, "Lilis Mulyawati" <lilis_mulya-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>
>> > Terima kasih untuk email dan info ya Pak Perry.
>> >
>> > Tanya sedikit ya Pak, kalau applicant sudah mengambil test terse but di
>> > atas tetapi tidak jadi apply residency hasil test tersebut hangus atau
>> > masih bisa berlaku sampai jangka waktu tertentu.  Atau apakah isi test
>> > selalu dirubah dari waktu ke waktu.
>> >
>> > Semoga Pak Perry atau teman-teman Indo expat lain bisa membantu.
>> >
>> > Terima kasih
>> >
>> > Lilis Mulyawati
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 29 Jan 2013, at 15:04, "Perry Ismangil" <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Bagi yang akan jadi permanent resident, ada buku baru untuk ujiannya:
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/newsarticles/2013/january/37-new-handbook
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Perry Ismangil
>> > > me.ismangil.com
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[Perry Ismangil]

2013/1/31 Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>:
>
> Kalau citizenship barangakali masih perlu di timbang karena samapi saaat ini RI tidak mengakui dual citizenhip untuk orang dewasa
>

Ya dengan sanksi berat sekali yaitu cabut WNI :P


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Perkembangan wacana dual nationalities masuk di UU Kewarganegaraan apa kabarnya ya?



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-----Original Message-----
From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:48:42
To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <uk-***@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK handbook
published today

2013/1/31 Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>:
>
> Kalau citizenship barangakali masih perlu di timbang karena samapi saaat ini RI tidak mengakui dual citizenhip untuk orang dewasa
>

Ya dengan sanksi berat sekali yaitu cabut WNI :P


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[Bagus Prakoso]

I don't think it's gonna happen very soon. It would be a miracle. IMHO.

Chris

On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM, <kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> Perkembangan wacana dual nationalities masuk di UU Kewarganegaraan apa
> kabarnya ya?
>
>
>
> ------------------
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:48:42
> To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
> Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <uk-***@public.gmane.org>
> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK handbook
> published today
>
> 2013/1/31 Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>:
> >
> > Kalau citizenship barangakali masih perlu di timbang karena samapi saaat
> ini RI tidak mengakui dual citizenhip untuk orang dewasa
> >
>
> Ya dengan sanksi berat sekali yaitu cabut WNI :P
>
>
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[Perry Ismangil]

Kalaupun terjadi, ada amnesti ngga ya untuk yang 'terlanjur' punya dua paspor :)

On 31 January 2013 09:52, Bagus Prakoso <brajamusti-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> I don't think it's gonna happen very soon. It would be a miracle. IMHO.
>
> Chris
>
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM, <kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
>> Perkembangan wacana dual nationalities masuk di UU Kewarganegaraan apa
>> kabarnya ya?
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:48:42
>> To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
>> Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <uk-***@public.gmane.org>
>> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK handbook
>> published today
>>
>> 2013/1/31 Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>:
>> >
>> > Kalau citizenship barangakali masih perlu di timbang karena samapi saaat
>> ini RI tidak mengakui dual citizenhip untuk orang dewasa
>> >
>>
>> Ya dengan sanksi berat sekali yaitu cabut WNI :P
>>
>>
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[Andreas]

Wong
Pak Perry, ammesty itu hanya perlu kalau memang sudah terbukti. Lebih kuatnya lagi harus dibuktikan di pengadilan sampia tingkat banding.

Kalau belum terbukti berati belum melanggar. Nah ini berati tidak perlu ammesty ....

Ini berdasakran prinsip dasar dari hukum "asas praduga tdak bersalah".




>________________________________
> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>To: Adi <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
>Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 11:26
>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK handbook published today
>
>Kalaupun terjadi, ada amnesti ngga ya untuk yang 'terlanjur' punya dua paspor :)
>
>On 31 January 2013 09:52, Bagus Prakoso <brajamusti-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> I don't think it's gonna happen very soon.  It would be a miracle.  IMHO.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM, <kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Perkembangan wacana dual nationalities masuk di UU Kewarganegaraan apa
>>> kabarnya ya?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>>> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:48:42
>>> To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
>>> Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <uk-***@public.gmane.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK handbook
>>>  published today
>>>
>>> 2013/1/31 Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>:
>>> >
>>> > Kalau citizenship barangakali masih perlu di timbang karena samapi saaat
>>> ini RI tidak mengakui dual citizenhip untuk orang dewasa
>>> >
>>>
>>> Ya dengan sanksi berat sekali yaitu cabut WNI :P
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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[Eko Kurniawan]

mungkin perlu naturalisasi lagi jadi WNI :)



>________________________________
> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:26 AM
>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK handbook published today
>
>Kalaupun terjadi, ada amnesti ngga ya untuk yang 'terlanjur' punya dua paspor :)
>
>On 31 January 2013 09:52, Bagus Prakoso <brajamusti-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> I don't think it's gonna happen very soon.  It would be a miracle.  IMHO.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM, <kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Perkembangan wacana dual nationalities masuk di UU Kewarganegaraan apa
>>> kabarnya ya?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>>> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:48:42
>>> To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
>>> Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <uk-***@public.gmane.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK handbook
>>>  published today
>>>
>>> 2013/1/31 Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>:
>>> >
>>> > Kalau citizenship barangakali masih perlu di timbang karena samapi saaat
>>> ini RI tidak mengakui dual citizenhip untuk orang dewasa
>>> >
>>>
>>> Ya dengan sanksi berat sekali yaitu cabut WNI :P
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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[Kristanti TREPIN]

Iseng saja nih saya nanya,

Kalo sudah punya passport merah/biru (apapun yang tdk hijau dan berlambang
garuda), waktu passport di KBRI apakah petugas tidak cek atau tanya
visa/permit to stay di UK? karena biasanya visa/permit to stay di
UK attached di passport?

Terima kasih

Salam,
Kristanti

On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>wrote:

> mungkin perlu naturalisasi lagi jadi WNI :)
>
>
>
> >________________________________
> > From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:26 AM
> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> handbook published today
> >
> >Kalaupun terjadi, ada amnesti ngga ya untuk yang 'terlanjur' punya dua
> paspor :)
> >
> >On 31 January 2013 09:52, Bagus Prakoso <brajamusti-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >> I don't think it's gonna happen very soon. It would be a miracle.
> IMHO.
> >>
> >> Chris
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM, <kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Perkembangan wacana dual nationalities masuk di UU Kewarganegaraan apa
> >>> kabarnya ya?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ------------------
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> >>> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:48:42
> >>> To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
> >>> Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <uk-***@public.gmane.org>
> >>> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> handbook
> >>> published today
> >>>
> >>> 2013/1/31 Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>:
> >>> >
> >>> > Kalau citizenship barangakali masih perlu di timbang karena samapi
> saaat
> >>> ini RI tidak mengakui dual citizenhip untuk orang dewasa
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>> Ya dengan sanksi berat sekali yaitu cabut WNI :P
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
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[Kristanti TREPIN]

Maaf mouse error, kepencet sebelum selesai edit nulis kalimat, maksudnya,
Kalo sudah punya passport merah/biru (apapun yang tdk hijau dan berlambang
garuda), waktu perpanjang passport di KBRI apakah petugas tidak cek atau
tanya visa/permit to stay di UK? karena biasanya visa/permit to stay di
UK attached di passport?

Terima kasih

Salam,
Kristanti



2013/1/31 Kristanti TREPIN <kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org>

> Iseng saja nih saya nanya,
>
> Kalo sudah punya passport merah/biru (apapun yang tdk hijau dan berlambang
> garuda), waktu passport di KBRI apakah petugas tidak cek atau tanya
> visa/permit to stay di UK? karena biasanya visa/permit to stay di
> UK attached di passport?
>
> Terima kasih
>
> Salam,
> Kristanti
>
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>wrote:
>
>> mungkin perlu naturalisasi lagi jadi WNI :)
>>
>>
>>
>> >________________________________
>> > From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>> >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>> >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:26 AM
>> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
>> handbook published today
>> >
>> >Kalaupun terjadi, ada amnesti ngga ya untuk yang 'terlanjur' punya dua
>> paspor :)
>> >
>> >On 31 January 2013 09:52, Bagus Prakoso <brajamusti-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> >> I don't think it's gonna happen very soon. It would be a miracle.
>> IMHO.
>> >>
>> >> Chris
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM, <kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Perkembangan wacana dual nationalities masuk di UU Kewarganegaraan apa
>> >>> kabarnya ya?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> ------------------
>> >>>
>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>> >>> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:48:42
>> >>> To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
>> >>> Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <uk-***@public.gmane.org>
>> >>> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
>> handbook
>> >>> published today
>> >>>
>> >>> 2013/1/31 Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>:
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Kalau citizenship barangakali masih perlu di timbang karena samapi
>> saaat
>> >>> ini RI tidak mengakui dual citizenhip untuk orang dewasa
>> >>> >
>> >>>
>> >>> Ya dengan sanksi berat sekali yaitu cabut WNI :P
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> --
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[Perry Ismangil]

Ya stiker UKBA kan tidak harus dipindahkan ke paspor baru, so ya selalu ada
di paspor lama... (teori lho ya ini :-))

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On 31 Jan 2013 15:32, "Kristanti TREPIN" <kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> Iseng saja nih saya nanya,
>
> Kalo sudah punya passport merah/biru (apapun yang tdk hijau dan berlambang
> garuda), waktu passport di KBRI apakah petugas tidak cek atau tanya
> visa/permit to stay di UK? karena biasanya visa/permit to stay di
> UK attached di passport?
>
> Terima kasih
>
> Salam,
> Kristanti
>
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> >wrote:
>
> > mungkin perlu naturalisasi lagi jadi WNI :)
> >
> >
> >
> > >________________________________
> > > From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:26 AM
> > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> > handbook published today
> > >
> > >Kalaupun terjadi, ada amnesti ngga ya untuk yang 'terlanjur' punya dua
> > paspor :)
> > >
> > >On 31 January 2013 09:52, Bagus Prakoso <brajamusti-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > >> I don't think it's gonna happen very soon. It would be a miracle.
> > IMHO.
> > >>
> > >> Chris
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM, <kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Perkembangan wacana dual nationalities masuk di UU Kewarganegaraan
> apa
> > >>> kabarnya ya?
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> ------------------
> > >>>
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> > >>> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:48:42
> > >>> To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
> > >>> Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <uk-***@public.gmane.org>
> > >>> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> > handbook
> > >>> published today
> > >>>
> > >>> 2013/1/31 Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>:
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Kalau citizenship barangakali masih perlu di timbang karena samapi
> > saaat
> > >>> ini RI tidak mengakui dual citizenhip untuk orang dewasa
> > >>> >
> > >>>
> > >>> Ya dengan sanksi berat sekali yaitu cabut WNI :P
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> Perry Ismangil
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[Andreas]

UKBA tidak menganjurkan  stiker ILR di pindahkan ke passport baru..

Lagi pula harus bayar untuk hal yang tidak perlu dan tidak dianjurkan.

Jadi seperti kata pak Perry,  tidak perlu Minta stiker baru untuk dipindahkan ke Passport ynag baru.

Jadi teorinya IILR nya nempel di passport ynag lama sekalipun passport sudah diganti 3 atau 4 kali, ILR  nya tetap saja berlaku di passport ynag lama.  Ini hanya teori saja lho ya

Barangkali rekan rekan yang lain ingin menambahkan. terutama apakah perlunay memindahkan stikernya ke passport









>________________________________
> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>To: Adi <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
>Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 15:36
>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK handbook published today
>
>Ya stiker UKBA kan tidak harus dipindahkan ke paspor baru, so ya selalu ada
>di paspor lama... (teori lho ya ini :-))
>
>--
>Perry Ismangil
>me.ismangil.com
>On 31 Jan 2013 15:32, "Kristanti TREPIN" <kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
>> Iseng saja nih saya nanya,
>>
>> Kalo sudah punya passport merah/biru (apapun yang tdk hijau dan berlambang
>> garuda), waktu  passport di KBRI apakah petugas tidak cek atau tanya
>> visa/permit to stay di UK? karena biasanya visa/permit to stay di
>> UK attached di passport?
>>
>> Terima kasih
>>
>> Salam,
>> Kristanti
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>> >wrote:
>>
>> > mungkin perlu naturalisasi lagi jadi WNI :)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > >________________________________
>> > > From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>> > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>> > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:26 AM
>> >  >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
>> > handbook published today
>> > >
>> > >Kalaupun terjadi, ada amnesti ngga ya untuk yang 'terlanjur' punya dua
>> > paspor :)
>> > >
>> > >On 31 January 2013 09:52, Bagus Prakoso <brajamusti-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> > >> I don't think it's gonna happen very soon.  It would be a miracle.
>> > IMHO.
>> > >>
>> > >> Chris
>> > >>
>> > >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM, <kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> Perkembangan wacana dual nationalities masuk di UU Kewarganegaraan
>> apa
>> > >>> kabarnya ya?
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> ------------------
>> > >>>
>> > >>> -----Original Message-----
>> > >>> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>> > >>> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:48:42
>> > >>> To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
>> > >>> Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <uk-***@public.gmane.org>
>> > >>> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
>> > handbook
>> > >>>  published today
>> > >>>
>> > >>> 2013/1/31 Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>:
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > Kalau citizenship barangakali masih perlu di timbang karena samapi
>> > saaat
>> > >>> ini RI tidak mengakui dual citizenhip untuk orang dewasa
>> > >>> >
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Ya dengan sanksi berat sekali yaitu cabut WNI :P
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> --
>> > >>> Perry Ismangil
>> > >>> _________________________________________________________________
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[Eko Kurniawan]

kalo sekarang ILR dapetnya BRP card



>________________________________
> From: Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
>To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:32 PM
>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK handbook published today
>
>UKBA tidak menganjurkan  stiker ILR di pindahkan ke passport baru..
>
>Lagi pula harus bayar untuk hal yang tidak perlu dan tidak dianjurkan.
>
>Jadi seperti kata pak Perry,  tidak perlu Minta stiker baru untuk dipindahkan ke Passport ynag baru.
>
>Jadi teorinya IILR nya nempel di passport ynag lama sekalipun passport sudah diganti 3 atau 4 kali, ILR  nya tetap saja berlaku di passport ynag lama.  Ini hanya teori saja lho ya
>
>Barangkali rekan rekan yang lain ingin menambahkan. terutama apakah perlunay memindahkan stikernya ke passport
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>________________________________
>> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>>To: Adi <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
>>Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 15:36
>>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK handbook published today
>>
>>Ya stiker UKBA kan tidak harus dipindahkan ke paspor baru, so ya selalu ada
>>di paspor lama... (teori lho ya ini :-))
>>
>>--
>>Perry Ismangil
>>me.ismangil.com
>>On 31 Jan 2013 15:32, "Kristanti TREPIN" <kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Iseng saja nih saya nanya,
>>>
>>> Kalo sudah punya passport merah/biru (apapun yang tdk hijau dan berlambang
>>> garuda), waktu  passport di KBRI apakah petugas tidak cek atau tanya
>>> visa/permit to stay di UK? karena biasanya visa/permit to stay di
>>> UK attached di passport?
>>>
>>> Terima kasih
>>>
>>> Salam,
>>> Kristanti
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>>> >wrote:
>>>
>>> > mungkin perlu naturalisasi lagi jadi WNI :)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > >________________________________
>>> > > From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>>> > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>>> > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:26 AM
>>> >  >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
>>> > handbook published today
>>> > >
>>> > >Kalaupun terjadi, ada amnesti ngga ya untuk yang 'terlanjur' punya dua
>>> > paspor :)
>>> > >
>>> > >On 31 January 2013 09:52, Bagus Prakoso <brajamusti-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>> > >> I don't think it's gonna happen very soon.  It would be a miracle.
>>> > IMHO.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Chris
>>> > >>
>>> > >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM, <kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>> > >>
>>> > >>> Perkembangan wacana dual nationalities masuk di UU Kewarganegaraan
>>> apa
>>> > >>> kabarnya ya?
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> ------------------
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> -----Original Message-----
>>> > >>> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>>> > >>> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:48:42
>>> > >>> To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
>>> > >>> Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <uk-cr1SvhNoOocgK0yYPKZ2/***@public.gmane.orgg>
>>> > >>> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
>>> > handbook
>>> > >>>  published today
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> 2013/1/31 Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>:
>>> > >>> >
>>> > >>> > Kalau citizenship barangakali masih perlu di timbang karena samapi
>>> > saaat
>>> > >>> ini RI tidak mengakui dual citizenhip untuk orang dewasa
>>> > >>> >
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> Ya dengan sanksi berat sekali yaitu cabut WNI :P
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> --
>>> > >>> Perry Ismangil
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[Perry Ismangil]

Nah berarti sudah lepas dari paspor malah!

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On 31 Jan 2013 17:01, "Eko Kurniawan" <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> kalo sekarang ILR dapetnya BRP card
>
>
>
> >________________________________
> > From: Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
> >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:32 PM
> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> handbook published today
> >
> >UKBA tidak menganjurkan stiker ILR di pindahkan ke passport baru..
> >
> >Lagi pula harus bayar untuk hal yang tidak perlu dan tidak dianjurkan.
> >
> >Jadi seperti kata pak Perry, tidak perlu Minta stiker baru untuk
> dipindahkan ke Passport ynag baru.
> >
> >Jadi teorinya IILR nya nempel di passport ynag lama sekalipun passport
> sudah diganti 3 atau 4 kali, ILR nya tetap saja berlaku di passport ynag
> lama. Ini hanya teori saja lho ya
> >
> >Barangkali rekan rekan yang lain ingin menambahkan. terutama apakah
> perlunay memindahkan stikernya ke passport
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>________________________________
> >> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> >>To: Adi <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
> >>Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 15:36
> >>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> handbook published today
> >>
> >>Ya stiker UKBA kan tidak harus dipindahkan ke paspor baru, so ya selalu
> ada
> >>di paspor lama... (teori lho ya ini :-))
> >>
> >>--
> >>Perry Ismangil
> >>me.ismangil.com
> >>On 31 Jan 2013 15:32, "Kristanti TREPIN" <kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Iseng saja nih saya nanya,
> >>>
> >>> Kalo sudah punya passport merah/biru (apapun yang tdk hijau dan
> berlambang
> >>> garuda), waktu passport di KBRI apakah petugas tidak cek atau tanya
> >>> visa/permit to stay di UK? karena biasanya visa/permit to stay di
> >>> UK attached di passport?
> >>>
> >>> Terima kasih
> >>>
> >>> Salam,
> >>> Kristanti
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> >>> >wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > mungkin perlu naturalisasi lagi jadi WNI :)
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > >________________________________
> >>> > > From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> >>> > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> >>> > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:26 AM
> >>> > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> >>> > handbook published today
> >>> > >
> >>> > >Kalaupun terjadi, ada amnesti ngga ya untuk yang 'terlanjur' punya
> dua
> >>> > paspor :)
> >>> > >
> >>> > >On 31 January 2013 09:52, Bagus Prakoso <brajamusti-***@public.gmane.org>
> wrote:
> >>> > >> I don't think it's gonna happen very soon. It would be a miracle.
> >>> > IMHO.
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Chris
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM, <kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>> Perkembangan wacana dual nationalities masuk di UU
> Kewarganegaraan
> >>> apa
> >>> > >>> kabarnya ya?
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> ------------------
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> > >>> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> >>> > >>> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:48:42
> >>> > >>> To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
> >>> > >>> Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <
> uk-***@public.gmane.org>
> >>> > >>> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> >>> > handbook
> >>> > >>> published today
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> 2013/1/31 Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>:
> >>> > >>> >
> >>> > >>> > Kalau citizenship barangakali masih perlu di timbang karena
> samapi
> >>> > saaat
> >>> > >>> ini RI tidak mengakui dual citizenhip untuk orang dewasa
> >>> > >>> >
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> Ya dengan sanksi berat sekali yaitu cabut WNI :P
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> --
> >>> > >>> Perry Ismangil
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[Kristanti TREPIN]

Yayy.. Jadi kalo begitu, bisa main kucing2an punya 2 passport ya ?
hehehe..asal gak ditanya macam2 di KBRI waktu perpanjang passport?
Visa saya (EEA2) bentuknya kertas A4 dan dibagi 4 section dan terpisah dr
passport, cuma saya stick pakai paper clip karena menurut UKBA tdk boleh
dilaminating.

Salam,
Kristanti
2013/1/31 Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>

> Nah berarti sudah lepas dari paspor malah!
>
> --
> Perry Ismangil
> me.ismangil.com
> On 31 Jan 2013 17:01, "Eko Kurniawan" <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> > kalo sekarang ILR dapetnya BRP card
> >
> >
> >
> > >________________________________
> > > From: Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
> > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:32 PM
> > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> > handbook published today
> > >
> > >UKBA tidak menganjurkan stiker ILR di pindahkan ke passport baru..
> > >
> > >Lagi pula harus bayar untuk hal yang tidak perlu dan tidak dianjurkan.
> > >
> > >Jadi seperti kata pak Perry, tidak perlu Minta stiker baru untuk
> > dipindahkan ke Passport ynag baru.
> > >
> > >Jadi teorinya IILR nya nempel di passport ynag lama sekalipun passport
> > sudah diganti 3 atau 4 kali, ILR nya tetap saja berlaku di passport ynag
> > lama. Ini hanya teori saja lho ya
> > >
> > >Barangkali rekan rekan yang lain ingin menambahkan. terutama apakah
> > perlunay memindahkan stikernya ke passport
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>________________________________
> > >> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> > >>To: Adi <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
> > >>Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 15:36
> > >>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> > handbook published today
> > >>
> > >>Ya stiker UKBA kan tidak harus dipindahkan ke paspor baru, so ya selalu
> > ada
> > >>di paspor lama... (teori lho ya ini :-))
> > >>
> > >>--
> > >>Perry Ismangil
> > >>me.ismangil.com
> > >>On 31 Jan 2013 15:32, "Kristanti TREPIN" <kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Iseng saja nih saya nanya,
> > >>>
> > >>> Kalo sudah punya passport merah/biru (apapun yang tdk hijau dan
> > berlambang
> > >>> garuda), waktu passport di KBRI apakah petugas tidak cek atau tanya
> > >>> visa/permit to stay di UK? karena biasanya visa/permit to stay di
> > >>> UK attached di passport?
> > >>>
> > >>> Terima kasih
> > >>>
> > >>> Salam,
> > >>> Kristanti
> > >>>
> > >>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Eko Kurniawan <
> ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> > >>> >wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> > mungkin perlu naturalisasi lagi jadi WNI :)
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > >________________________________
> > >>> > > From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> > >>> > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> > >>> > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:26 AM
> > >>> > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> > >>> > handbook published today
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >Kalaupun terjadi, ada amnesti ngga ya untuk yang 'terlanjur' punya
> > dua
> > >>> > paspor :)
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >On 31 January 2013 09:52, Bagus Prakoso <brajamusti-***@public.gmane.org>
> > wrote:
> > >>> > >> I don't think it's gonna happen very soon. It would be a
> miracle.
> > >>> > IMHO.
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >> Chris
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM, <kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
> wrote:
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >>> Perkembangan wacana dual nationalities masuk di UU
> > Kewarganegaraan
> > >>> apa
> > >>> > >>> kabarnya ya?
> > >>> > >>>
> > >>> > >>>
> > >>> > >>>
> > >>> > >>> ------------------
> > >>> > >>>
> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> > >>> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> > >>> > >>> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:48:42
> > >>> > >>> To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
> > >>> > >>> Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <
> > uk-***@public.gmane.org>
> > >>> > >>> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the
> UK
> > >>> > handbook
> > >>> > >>> published today
> > >>> > >>>
> > >>> > >>> 2013/1/31 Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>:
> > >>> > >>> >
> > >>> > >>> > Kalau citizenship barangakali masih perlu di timbang karena
> > samapi
> > >>> > saaat
> > >>> > >>> ini RI tidak mengakui dual citizenhip untuk orang dewasa
> > >>> > >>> >
> > >>> > >>>
> > >>> > >>> Ya dengan sanksi berat sekali yaitu cabut WNI :P
> > >>> > >>>
> > >>> > >>>
> > >>> > >>> --
> > >>> > >>> Perry Ismangil
> > >>> > >>>
> _________________________________________________________________
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[Perry Ismangil]

Bagi yang mau jadi kucing dan melaporkan kucing yang lain, jangan lupa baca
UU WN 2006, disitu ada caranya (kirim surat rangkap ke Menkeh dlsb :-))

--
Perry Ismangil
me.ismangil.com
On 31 Jan 2013 17:10, "Kristanti TREPIN" <kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> Yayy.. Jadi kalo begitu, bisa main kucing2an punya 2 passport ya ?
> hehehe..asal gak ditanya macam2 di KBRI waktu perpanjang passport?
> Visa saya (EEA2) bentuknya kertas A4 dan dibagi 4 section dan terpisah dr
> passport, cuma saya stick pakai paper clip karena menurut UKBA tdk boleh
> dilaminating.
>
> Salam,
> Kristanti
> 2013/1/31 Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>
> > Nah berarti sudah lepas dari paspor malah!
> >
> > --
> > Perry Ismangil
> > me.ismangil.com
> > On 31 Jan 2013 17:01, "Eko Kurniawan" <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >
> > > kalo sekarang ILR dapetnya BRP card
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >________________________________
> > > > From: Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
> > > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> > > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:32 PM
> > > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> > > handbook published today
> > > >
> > > >UKBA tidak menganjurkan stiker ILR di pindahkan ke passport baru..
> > > >
> > > >Lagi pula harus bayar untuk hal yang tidak perlu dan tidak dianjurkan.
> > > >
> > > >Jadi seperti kata pak Perry, tidak perlu Minta stiker baru untuk
> > > dipindahkan ke Passport ynag baru.
> > > >
> > > >Jadi teorinya IILR nya nempel di passport ynag lama sekalipun passport
> > > sudah diganti 3 atau 4 kali, ILR nya tetap saja berlaku di passport
> ynag
> > > lama. Ini hanya teori saja lho ya
> > > >
> > > >Barangkali rekan rekan yang lain ingin menambahkan. terutama apakah
> > > perlunay memindahkan stikernya ke passport
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>________________________________
> > > >> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> > > >>To: Adi <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
> > > >>Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 15:36
> > > >>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> > > handbook published today
> > > >>
> > > >>Ya stiker UKBA kan tidak harus dipindahkan ke paspor baru, so ya
> selalu
> > > ada
> > > >>di paspor lama... (teori lho ya ini :-))
> > > >>
> > > >>--
> > > >>Perry Ismangil
> > > >>me.ismangil.com
> > > >>On 31 Jan 2013 15:32, "Kristanti TREPIN" <kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org>
> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Iseng saja nih saya nanya,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Kalo sudah punya passport merah/biru (apapun yang tdk hijau dan
> > > berlambang
> > > >>> garuda), waktu passport di KBRI apakah petugas tidak cek atau
> tanya
> > > >>> visa/permit to stay di UK? karena biasanya visa/permit to stay di
> > > >>> UK attached di passport?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Terima kasih
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Salam,
> > > >>> Kristanti
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Eko Kurniawan <
> > ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> > > >>> >wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> > mungkin perlu naturalisasi lagi jadi WNI :)
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > >________________________________
> > > >>> > > From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> > > >>> > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> > > >>> > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:26 AM
> > > >>> > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the
> UK
> > > >>> > handbook published today
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > >Kalaupun terjadi, ada amnesti ngga ya untuk yang 'terlanjur'
> punya
> > > dua
> > > >>> > paspor :)
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > >On 31 January 2013 09:52, Bagus Prakoso <brajamusti-***@public.gmane.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>> > >> I don't think it's gonna happen very soon. It would be a
> > miracle.
> > > >>> > IMHO.
> > > >>> > >>
> > > >>> > >> Chris
> > > >>> > >>
> > > >>> > >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM, <kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
> > wrote:
> > > >>> > >>
> > > >>> > >>> Perkembangan wacana dual nationalities masuk di UU
> > > Kewarganegaraan
> > > >>> apa
> > > >>> > >>> kabarnya ya?
> > > >>> > >>>
> > > >>> > >>>
> > > >>> > >>>
> > > >>> > >>> ------------------
> > > >>> > >>>
> > > >>> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > > >>> > >>> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> > > >>> > >>> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:48:42
> > > >>> > >>> To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
> > > >>> > >>> Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <
> > > uk-***@public.gmane.org>
> > > >>> > >>> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in
> the
> > UK
> > > >>> > handbook
> > > >>> > >>> published today
> > > >>> > >>>
> > > >>> > >>> 2013/1/31 Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>:
> > > >>> > >>> >
> > > >>> > >>> > Kalau citizenship barangakali masih perlu di timbang karena
> > > samapi
> > > >>> > saaat
> > > >>> > >>> ini RI tidak mengakui dual citizenhip untuk orang dewasa
> > > >>> > >>> >
> > > >>> > >>>
> > > >>> > >>> Ya dengan sanksi berat sekali yaitu cabut WNI :P
> > > >>> > >>>
> > > >>> > >>>
> > > >>> > >>> --
> > > >>> > >>> Perry Ismangil
> > > >>> > >>>
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[loverv2004-/E1597aS9LT10XsdtD+]

Sekalian tanya,

Ada pengalaman rekan2 untuk anak yg otomatis wn british (karena ortunya PR). Bgmn mendapatkan stamp ILTR di paspor indo-nya ?

Istri sy sedang hamil anak kami yg kedua. Sedangkan sy dan istri pemegang ILTR. Kan anak kami yg kedua otomatis british. Sedangkan sy masih ingin anak kedua sy mempunyai cap ILTR di paspornya.

Paspor sy, istri, anak pertama sy semua sudah ada cap ILTR di paspor lama kami.

Ada yg punya pengalaman / masukan ?
Terimakasih sebelumnya.

Salam,
Roddy

Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone

-----Original Message-----
From: Kristanti TREPIN <***@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 17:10:47
To: Roddy Soenjoto<***@yahoo.co.uk>
Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <***@indoexpat.org>
Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK handbook
published today

Yayy.. Jadi kalo begitu, bisa main kucing2an punya 2 passport ya ?
hehehe..asal gak ditanya macam2 di KBRI waktu perpanjang passport?
Visa saya (EEA2) bentuknya kertas A4 dan dibagi 4 section dan terpisah dr
passport, cuma saya stick pakai paper clip karena menurut UKBA tdk boleh
dilaminating.

Salam,
Kristanti
2013/1/31 Perry Ismangil <***@ismangil.com>

> Nah berarti sudah lepas dari paspor malah!
>
> --
> Perry Ismangil
> me.ismangil.com
> On 31 Jan 2013 17:01, "Eko Kurniawan" <***@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > kalo sekarang ILR dapetnya BRP card
> >
> >
> >
> > >________________________________
> > > From: Andreas <***@yahoo.com>
> > >To: ***@yahoo.com
> > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:32 PM
> > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> > handbook published today
> > >
> > >UKBA tidak menganjurkan stiker ILR di pindahkan ke passport baru..
> > >
> > >Lagi pula harus bayar untuk hal yang tidak perlu dan tidak dianjurkan.
> > >
> > >Jadi seperti kata pak Perry, tidak perlu Minta stiker baru untuk
> > dipindahkan ke Passport ynag baru.
> > >
> > >Jadi teorinya IILR nya nempel di passport ynag lama sekalipun passport
> > sudah diganti 3 atau 4 kali, ILR nya tetap saja berlaku di passport ynag
> > lama. Ini hanya teori saja lho ya
> > >
> > >Barangkali rekan rekan yang lain ingin menambahkan. terutama apakah
> > perlunay memindahkan stikernya ke passport
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>________________________________
> > >> From: Perry Ismangil <***@ismangil.com>
> > >>To: Adi <***@yahoo.com>
> > >>Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 15:36
> > >>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> > handbook published today
> > >>
> > >>Ya stiker UKBA kan tidak harus dipindahkan ke paspor baru, so ya selalu
> > ada
> > >>di paspor lama... (teori lho ya ini :-))
> > >>
> > >>--
> > >>Perry Ismangil
> > >>me.ismangil.com
> > >>On 31 Jan 2013 15:32, "Kristanti TREPIN" <***@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Iseng saja nih saya nanya,
> > >>>
> > >>> Kalo sudah punya passport merah/biru (apapun yang tdk hijau dan
> > berlambang
> > >>> garuda), waktu passport di KBRI apakah petugas tidak cek atau tanya
> > >>> visa/permit to stay di UK? karena biasanya visa/permit to stay di
> > >>> UK attached di passport?
> > >>>
> > >>> Terima kasih
> > >>>
> > >>> Salam,
> > >>> Kristanti
> > >>>
> > >>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Eko Kurniawan <
> ***@yahoo.com
> > >>> >wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> > mungkin perlu naturalisasi lagi jadi WNI :)
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > >________________________________
> > >>> > > From: Perry Ismangil <***@ismangil.com>
> > >>> > >To: ***@yahoo.com
> > >>> > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:26 AM
> > >>> > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> > >>> > handbook published today
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >Kalaupun terjadi, ada amnesti ngga ya untuk yang 'terlanjur' punya
> > dua
> > >>> > paspor :)
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >On 31 January 2013 09:52, Bagus Prakoso <***@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>> > >> I don't think it's gonna happen very soon. It would be a
> miracle.
> > >>> > IMHO.
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >> Chris
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM, <***@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >>> Perkembangan wacana dual nationalities masuk di UU
> > Kewarganegaraan
> > >>> apa
> > >>> > >>> kabarnya ya?
> > >>> > >>>
> > >>> > >>>
> > >>> > >>>
> > >>> > >>> ------------------
> > >>> > >>>
> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> > >>> From: Perry Ismangil <***@ismangil.com>
> > >>> > >>> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:48:42
> > >>> > >>> To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<***@gmail.com>
> > >>> > >>> Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <
> > ***@indoexpat.org>
> > >>> > >>> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the
> UK
> > >>> > handbook
> > >>> > >>> published today
> > >>> > >>>
> > >>> > >>> 2013/1/31 Andreas <***@yahoo.com>:
> > >>> > >>> >
> > >>> > >>> > Kalau citizenship barangakali masih perlu di timbang karena
> > samapi
> > >>> > saaat
> > >>> > >>> ini RI tidak mengakui dual citizenhip untuk orang dewasa
> > >>> > >>> >
> > >>> > >>>
> > >>> > >>> Ya dengan sanksi berat sekali yaitu cabut WNI :P
> > >>> > >>>
> > >>> > >>>
> > >>> > >>> --
> > >>> > >>> Perry Ismangil
> > >>> > >>>
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[Perry Ismangil]

Sepertinya tidak otomatis kok Pak Roddy, cuma berhak di naturalised
langsung, istilahnya tetap 'register' as a citizen.

So asal ga di register ya tetap WNI sehingga bisa di apply untuk izin
tinggal dependant.

--
Perry Ismangil
me.ismangil.com
On 31 Jan 2013 20:49, <loverv2004-/E1597aS9LT10XsdtD+***@public.gmane.org> wrote:

>
> Sekalian tanya,
>
> Ada pengalaman rekan2 untuk anak yg otomatis wn british (karena ortunya
> PR). Bgmn mendapatkan stamp ILTR di paspor indo-nya ?
>
> Istri sy sedang hamil anak kami yg kedua. Sedangkan sy dan istri pemegang
> ILTR. Kan anak kami yg kedua otomatis british. Sedangkan sy masih ingin
> anak kedua sy mempunyai cap ILTR di paspornya.
>
> Paspor sy, istri, anak pertama sy semua sudah ada cap ILTR di paspor lama
> kami.
>
> Ada yg punya pengalaman / masukan ?
> Terimakasih sebelumnya.
>
> Salam,
> Roddy
>
> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kristanti TREPIN <kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org>
> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 17:10:47
> To: Roddy Soenjoto<loverv2004-/E1597aS9LT10XsdtD+***@public.gmane.org>
> Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <uk-***@public.gmane.org>
> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK handbook
> published today
>
> Yayy.. Jadi kalo begitu, bisa main kucing2an punya 2 passport ya ?
> hehehe..asal gak ditanya macam2 di KBRI waktu perpanjang passport?
> Visa saya (EEA2) bentuknya kertas A4 dan dibagi 4 section dan terpisah dr
> passport, cuma saya stick pakai paper clip karena menurut UKBA tdk boleh
> dilaminating.
>
> Salam,
> Kristanti
> 2013/1/31 Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>
> > Nah berarti sudah lepas dari paspor malah!
> >
> > --
> > Perry Ismangil
> > me.ismangil.com
> > On 31 Jan 2013 17:01, "Eko Kurniawan" <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >
> > > kalo sekarang ILR dapetnya BRP card
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >________________________________
> > > > From: Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
> > > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> > > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:32 PM
> > > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> > > handbook published today
> > > >
> > > >UKBA tidak menganjurkan stiker ILR di pindahkan ke passport baru..
> > > >
> > > >Lagi pula harus bayar untuk hal yang tidak perlu dan tidak dianjurkan.
> > > >
> > > >Jadi seperti kata pak Perry, tidak perlu Minta stiker baru untuk
> > > dipindahkan ke Passport ynag baru.
> > > >
> > > >Jadi teorinya IILR nya nempel di passport ynag lama sekalipun passport
> > > sudah diganti 3 atau 4 kali, ILR nya tetap saja berlaku di passport
> ynag
> > > lama. Ini hanya teori saja lho ya
> > > >
> > > >Barangkali rekan rekan yang lain ingin menambahkan. terutama apakah
> > > perlunay memindahkan stikernya ke passport
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>________________________________
> > > >> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> > > >>To: Adi <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
> > > >>Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 15:36
> > > >>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> > > handbook published today
> > > >>
> > > >>Ya stiker UKBA kan tidak harus dipindahkan ke paspor baru, so ya
> selalu
> > > ada
> > > >>di paspor lama... (teori lho ya ini :-))
> > > >>
> > > >>--
> > > >>Perry Ismangil
> > > >>me.ismangil.com
> > > >>On 31 Jan 2013 15:32, "Kristanti TREPIN" <kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org>
> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>> Iseng saja nih saya nanya,
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Kalo sudah punya passport merah/biru (apapun yang tdk hijau dan
> > > berlambang
> > > >>> garuda), waktu passport di KBRI apakah petugas tidak cek atau
> tanya
> > > >>> visa/permit to stay di UK? karena biasanya visa/permit to stay di
> > > >>> UK attached di passport?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Terima kasih
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Salam,
> > > >>> Kristanti
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Eko Kurniawan <
> > ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> > > >>> >wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>> > mungkin perlu naturalisasi lagi jadi WNI :)
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> >
> > > >>> > >________________________________
> > > >>> > > From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> > > >>> > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> > > >>> > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:26 AM
> > > >>> > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the
> UK
> > > >>> > handbook published today
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > >Kalaupun terjadi, ada amnesti ngga ya untuk yang 'terlanjur'
> punya
> > > dua
> > > >>> > paspor :)
> > > >>> > >
> > > >>> > >On 31 January 2013 09:52, Bagus Prakoso <brajamusti-***@public.gmane.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>> > >> I don't think it's gonna happen very soon. It would be a
> > miracle.
> > > >>> > IMHO.
> > > >>> > >>
> > > >>> > >> Chris
> > > >>> > >>
> > > >>> > >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM, <kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
> > wrote:
> > > >>> > >>
> > > >>> > >>> Perkembangan wacana dual nationalities masuk di UU
> > > Kewarganegaraan
> > > >>> apa
> > > >>> > >>> kabarnya ya?
> > > >>> > >>>
> > > >>> > >>>
> > > >>> > >>>
> > > >>> > >>> ------------------
> > > >>> > >>>
> > > >>> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > > >>> > >>> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> > > >>> > >>> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:48:42
> > > >>> > >>> To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
> > > >>> > >>> Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <
> > > uk-***@public.gmane.org>
> > > >>> > >>> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in
> the
> > UK
> > > >>> > handbook
> > > >>> > >>> published today
> > > >>> > >>>
> > > >>> > >>> 2013/1/31 Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>:
> > > >>> > >>> >
> > > >>> > >>> > Kalau citizenship barangakali masih perlu di timbang karena
> > > samapi
> > > >>> > saaat
> > > >>> > >>> ini RI tidak mengakui dual citizenhip untuk orang dewasa
> > > >>> > >>> >
> > > >>> > >>>
> > > >>> > >>> Ya dengan sanksi berat sekali yaitu cabut WNI :P
> > > >>> > >>>
> > > >>> > >>>
> > > >>> > >>> --
> > > >>> > >>> Perry Ismangil
> > > >>> > >>>
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[Eddy Manurung]

Mnurut ku...
Apply passport Indo kemudian apply ILTR utk anaknya.
Baru apply Naturalize Citizen...

Aku lupa linknya, tp pernah kubaca kalau sudah British, gak bisa atau gak
akan dilayani utk apply ILTR...

Salam,
EMan


2013/1/31 Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>

> Sepertinya tidak otomatis kok Pak Roddy, cuma berhak di naturalised
> langsung, istilahnya tetap 'register' as a citizen.
>
> So asal ga di register ya tetap WNI sehingga bisa di apply untuk izin
> tinggal dependant.
>
> --
> Perry Ismangil
> me.ismangil.com
> On 31 Jan 2013 20:49, <loverv2004-/E1597aS9LT10XsdtD+***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> >
> > Sekalian tanya,
> >
> > Ada pengalaman rekan2 untuk anak yg otomatis wn british (karena ortunya
> > PR). Bgmn mendapatkan stamp ILTR di paspor indo-nya ?
> >
> > Istri sy sedang hamil anak kami yg kedua. Sedangkan sy dan istri pemegang
> > ILTR. Kan anak kami yg kedua otomatis british. Sedangkan sy masih ingin
> > anak kedua sy mempunyai cap ILTR di paspornya.
> >
> > Paspor sy, istri, anak pertama sy semua sudah ada cap ILTR di paspor lama
> > kami.
> >
> > Ada yg punya pengalaman / masukan ?
> > Terimakasih sebelumnya.
> >
> > Salam,
> > Roddy
> >
> > Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kristanti TREPIN <kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org>
> > Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 17:10:47
> > To: Roddy Soenjoto<loverv2004-/E1597aS9LT10XsdtD+***@public.gmane.org>
> > Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <uk-***@public.gmane.org>
> > Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> handbook
> > published today
> >
> > Yayy.. Jadi kalo begitu, bisa main kucing2an punya 2 passport ya ?
> > hehehe..asal gak ditanya macam2 di KBRI waktu perpanjang passport?
> > Visa saya (EEA2) bentuknya kertas A4 dan dibagi 4 section dan terpisah dr
> > passport, cuma saya stick pakai paper clip karena menurut UKBA tdk boleh
> > dilaminating.
> >
> > Salam,
> > Kristanti
> > 2013/1/31 Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> >
> > > Nah berarti sudah lepas dari paspor malah!
> > >
> > > --
> > > Perry Ismangil
> > > me.ismangil.com
> > > On 31 Jan 2013 17:01, "Eko Kurniawan" <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > kalo sekarang ILR dapetnya BRP card
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >________________________________
> > > > > From: Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
> > > > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> > > > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:32 PM
> > > > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> > > > handbook published today
> > > > >
> > > > >UKBA tidak menganjurkan stiker ILR di pindahkan ke passport baru..
> > > > >
> > > > >Lagi pula harus bayar untuk hal yang tidak perlu dan tidak
> dianjurkan.
> > > > >
> > > > >Jadi seperti kata pak Perry, tidak perlu Minta stiker baru untuk
> > > > dipindahkan ke Passport ynag baru.
> > > > >
> > > > >Jadi teorinya IILR nya nempel di passport ynag lama sekalipun
> passport
> > > > sudah diganti 3 atau 4 kali, ILR nya tetap saja berlaku di passport
> > ynag
> > > > lama. Ini hanya teori saja lho ya
> > > > >
> > > > >Barangkali rekan rekan yang lain ingin menambahkan. terutama apakah
> > > > perlunay memindahkan stikernya ke passport
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >>________________________________
> > > > >> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> > > > >>To: Adi <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
> > > > >>Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 15:36
> > > > >>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> > > > handbook published today
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Ya stiker UKBA kan tidak harus dipindahkan ke paspor baru, so ya
> > selalu
> > > > ada
> > > > >>di paspor lama... (teori lho ya ini :-))
> > > > >>
> > > > >>--
> > > > >>Perry Ismangil
> > > > >>me.ismangil.com
> > > > >>On 31 Jan 2013 15:32, "Kristanti TREPIN" <kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org>
> > wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> Iseng saja nih saya nanya,
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Kalo sudah punya passport merah/biru (apapun yang tdk hijau dan
> > > > berlambang
> > > > >>> garuda), waktu passport di KBRI apakah petugas tidak cek atau
> > tanya
> > > > >>> visa/permit to stay di UK? karena biasanya visa/permit to stay di
> > > > >>> UK attached di passport?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Terima kasih
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Salam,
> > > > >>> Kristanti
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Eko Kurniawan <
> > > ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> > > > >>> >wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> > mungkin perlu naturalisasi lagi jadi WNI :)
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > >________________________________
> > > > >>> > > From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> > > > >>> > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> > > > >>> > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:26 AM
> > > > >>> > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in
> the
> > UK
> > > > >>> > handbook published today
> > > > >>> > >
> > > > >>> > >Kalaupun terjadi, ada amnesti ngga ya untuk yang 'terlanjur'
> > punya
> > > > dua
> > > > >>> > paspor :)
> > > > >>> > >
> > > > >>> > >On 31 January 2013 09:52, Bagus Prakoso <brajamusti-***@public.gmane.org
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >>> > >> I don't think it's gonna happen very soon. It would be a
> > > miracle.
> > > > >>> > IMHO.
> > > > >>> > >>
> > > > >>> > >> Chris
> > > > >>> > >>
> > > > >>> > >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM, <kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >>> > >>
> > > > >>> > >>> Perkembangan wacana dual nationalities masuk di UU
> > > > Kewarganegaraan
> > > > >>> apa
> > > > >>> > >>> kabarnya ya?
> > > > >>> > >>>
> > > > >>> > >>>
> > > > >>> > >>>
> > > > >>> > >>> ------------------
> > > > >>> > >>>
> > > > >>> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >>> > >>> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> > > > >>> > >>> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:48:42
> > > > >>> > >>> To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
> > > > >>> > >>> Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <
> > > > uk-***@public.gmane.org>
> > > > >>> > >>> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in
> > the
> > > UK
> > > > >>> > handbook
> > > > >>> > >>> published today
> > > > >>> > >>>
> > > > >>> > >>> 2013/1/31 Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>:
> > > > >>> > >>> >
> > > > >>> > >>> > Kalau citizenship barangakali masih perlu di timbang
> karena
> > > > samapi
> > > > >>> > saaat
> > > > >>> > >>> ini RI tidak mengakui dual citizenhip untuk orang dewasa
> > > > >>> > >>> >
> > > > >>> > >>>
> > > > >>> > >>> Ya dengan sanksi berat sekali yaitu cabut WNI :P
> > > > >>> > >>>
> > > > >>> > >>>
> > > > >>> > >>> --
> > > > >>> > >>> Perry Ismangil
> > > > >>> > >>>
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[Lilis Mulyawati]

Terima kasih tuk jawaban2 Dari teman teman semua.

Saya rencana apply ILR 2 tahun yang lalu tetapi berhubung saya sekeluarga Akan exit Dari UK jadi tidak memenuhi persyaratan ILR yg harus stay di UK 3 tahun dan tidak berada diluar UK lebih dari 20% of total 3 years. Setelah itu kalau misalkan saya memutuskan menunda keluar dari UK tuk mendapatkan ILR saya dan nantinya saya tinggal di luar UK lama, pada saat kembali ke UK nantinya saya harus apply spouse visa (2 tahun with no public funding allowed), lalu aktifasi ILR saya kembali.

Sekarang saya tinggal di Vietnam dan dengar dari teman2 warga Vietnam yg bersuamikan UK citizen mereka bisa apply visa kunjungan regular sampai masa 10 thn ke depan. Saya belum investigasi lagi di UK consulate disini apakah khusus tuk Vietnamese atau negara lain.

Apakah Ada teman2 yg pernah dengar tentang visa ini?

Thanks

On 1 Feb 2013, at 10:18, "Eddy Manurung" <***@gmail.com> wrote:

> Mnurut ku...
> Apply passport Indo kemudian apply ILTR utk anaknya.
> Baru apply Naturalize Citizen...
>
> Aku lupa linknya, tp pernah kubaca kalau sudah British, gak bisa atau gak
> akan dilayani utk apply ILTR...
>
> Salam,
> EMan
>
>
> 2013/1/31 Perry Ismangil <***@ismangil.com>
>
>> Sepertinya tidak otomatis kok Pak Roddy, cuma berhak di naturalised
>> langsung, istilahnya tetap 'register' as a citizen.
>>
>> So asal ga di register ya tetap WNI sehingga bisa di apply untuk izin
>> tinggal dependant.
>>
>> --
>> Perry Ismangil
>> me.ismangil.com
>> On 31 Jan 2013 20:49, <***@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Sekalian tanya,
>>>
>>> Ada pengalaman rekan2 untuk anak yg otomatis wn british (karena ortunya
>>> PR). Bgmn mendapatkan stamp ILTR di paspor indo-nya ?
>>>
>>> Istri sy sedang hamil anak kami yg kedua. Sedangkan sy dan istri pemegang
>>> ILTR. Kan anak kami yg kedua otomatis british. Sedangkan sy masih ingin
>>> anak kedua sy mempunyai cap ILTR di paspornya.
>>>
>>> Paspor sy, istri, anak pertama sy semua sudah ada cap ILTR di paspor lama
>>> kami.
>>>
>>> Ada yg punya pengalaman / masukan ?
>>> Terimakasih sebelumnya.
>>>
>>> Salam,
>>> Roddy
>>>
>>> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Kristanti TREPIN <***@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 17:10:47
>>> To: Roddy Soenjoto<***@yahoo.co.uk>
>>> Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <***@indoexpat.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
>> handbook
>>> published today
>>>
>>> Yayy.. Jadi kalo begitu, bisa main kucing2an punya 2 passport ya ?
>>> hehehe..asal gak ditanya macam2 di KBRI waktu perpanjang passport?
>>> Visa saya (EEA2) bentuknya kertas A4 dan dibagi 4 section dan terpisah dr
>>> passport, cuma saya stick pakai paper clip karena menurut UKBA tdk boleh
>>> dilaminating.
>>>
>>> Salam,
>>> Kristanti
>>> 2013/1/31 Perry Ismangil <***@ismangil.com>
>>>
>>>> Nah berarti sudah lepas dari paspor malah!
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Perry Ismangil
>>>> me.ismangil.com
>>>> On 31 Jan 2013 17:01, "Eko Kurniawan" <***@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> kalo sekarang ILR dapetnya BRP card
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>> From: Andreas <***@yahoo.com>
>>>>>> To: ***@yahoo.com
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:32 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
>>>>> handbook published today
>>>>>>
>>>>>> UKBA tidak menganjurkan stiker ILR di pindahkan ke passport baru..
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lagi pula harus bayar untuk hal yang tidak perlu dan tidak
>> dianjurkan.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jadi seperti kata pak Perry, tidak perlu Minta stiker baru untuk
>>>>> dipindahkan ke Passport ynag baru.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jadi teorinya IILR nya nempel di passport ynag lama sekalipun
>> passport
>>>>> sudah diganti 3 atau 4 kali, ILR nya tetap saja berlaku di passport
>>> ynag
>>>>> lama. Ini hanya teori saja lho ya
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Barangkali rekan rekan yang lain ingin menambahkan. terutama apakah
>>>>> perlunay memindahkan stikernya ke passport
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>> From: Perry Ismangil <***@ismangil.com>
>>>>>>> To: Adi <***@yahoo.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 15:36
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
>>>>> handbook published today
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ya stiker UKBA kan tidak harus dipindahkan ke paspor baru, so ya
>>> selalu
>>>>> ada
>>>>>>> di paspor lama... (teori lho ya ini :-))
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Perry Ismangil
>>>>>>> me.ismangil.com
>>>>>>> On 31 Jan 2013 15:32, "Kristanti TREPIN" <***@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Iseng saja nih saya nanya,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kalo sudah punya passport merah/biru (apapun yang tdk hijau dan
>>>>> berlambang
>>>>>>>> garuda), waktu passport di KBRI apakah petugas tidak cek atau
>>> tanya
>>>>>>>> visa/permit to stay di UK? karena biasanya visa/permit to stay di
>>>>>>>> UK attached di passport?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Terima kasih
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Salam,
>>>>>>>> Kristanti
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Eko Kurniawan <
>>>> ***@yahoo.com
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> mungkin perlu naturalisasi lagi jadi WNI :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> From: Perry Ismangil <***@ismangil.com>
>>>>>>>>>> To: ***@yahoo.com
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:26 AM
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in
>> the
>>> UK
>>>>>>>>> handbook published today
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Kalaupun terjadi, ada amnesti ngga ya untuk yang 'terlanjur'
>>> punya
>>>>> dua
>>>>>>>>> paspor :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 31 January 2013 09:52, Bagus Prakoso <***@gmail.com
>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think it's gonna happen very soon. It would be a
>>>> miracle.
>>>>>>>>> IMHO.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM, <***@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Perkembangan wacana dual nationalities masuk di UU
>>>>> Kewarganegaraan
>>>>>>>> apa
>>>>>>>>>>>> kabarnya ya?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Perry Ismangil <***@ismangil.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:48:42
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<***@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <
>>>>> ***@indoexpat.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in
>>> the
>>>> UK
>>>>>>>>> handbook
>>>>>>>>>>>> published today
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/1/31 Andreas <***@yahoo.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kalau citizenship barangakali masih perlu di timbang
>> karena
>>>>> samapi
>>>>>>>>> saaat
>>>>>>>>>>>> ini RI tidak mengakui dual citizenhip untuk orang dewasa
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ya dengan sanksi berat sekali yaitu cabut WNI :P
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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[Eko Kurniawan]

betul, visa visit ada kok yang validity-nya 10 tahun - tapi maksimum stay for each visit tetap 6 bulan, jadi kalo sudah 6 bulan harus keluar UK dulu, baru masuk lagi supaya gak overstay



>________________________________
> From: Lilis Mulyawati <lilis_mulya-***@public.gmane.org>
>To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 5:24 AM
>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] ILTR di bayi yg baru lahir
>
>Terima kasih tuk jawaban2 Dari teman teman semua.
>
>Saya rencana apply ILR 2 tahun yang lalu tetapi berhubung saya sekeluarga Akan exit Dari UK jadi tidak memenuhi persyaratan ILR yg harus stay di UK 3 tahun dan tidak berada diluar UK lebih dari 20% of total 3 years. Setelah itu kalau misalkan saya memutuskan menunda keluar dari UK tuk mendapatkan ILR saya  dan nantinya saya tinggal di luar UK lama, pada saat  kembali ke UK nantinya saya harus apply spouse visa (2 tahun with no public funding allowed), lalu aktifasi ILR saya kembali.
>
>Sekarang saya tinggal di Vietnam dan dengar dari teman2 warga Vietnam yg bersuamikan UK citizen mereka bisa apply visa kunjungan regular sampai masa 10 thn ke depan.  Saya belum investigasi lagi di UK consulate disini apakah khusus tuk Vietnamese atau negara lain.
>
>Apakah Ada teman2 yg pernah dengar tentang visa ini?
>
>Thanks
>
>On 1 Feb 2013, at 10:18, "Eddy Manurung" <eddy.manurung-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
>> Mnurut ku...
>> Apply passport Indo kemudian apply ILTR utk anaknya.
>> Baru apply Naturalize Citizen...
>>
>> Aku lupa linknya, tp pernah kubaca kalau sudah British, gak bisa atau gak
>> akan dilayani utk apply ILTR...
>>
>> Salam,
>> EMan
>>
>>
>> 2013/1/31 Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>>
>>> Sepertinya tidak otomatis kok Pak Roddy, cuma berhak di naturalised
>>> langsung, istilahnya tetap 'register' as a citizen.
>>>
>>> So asal ga di register ya tetap WNI sehingga bisa di apply untuk izin
>>> tinggal dependant.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Perry Ismangil
>>> me.ismangil.com
>>> On 31 Jan 2013 20:49, <loverv2004-/E1597aS9LT10XsdtD+***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sekalian tanya,
>>>>
>>>> Ada pengalaman rekan2 untuk anak yg otomatis wn british (karena ortunya
>>>> PR). Bgmn mendapatkan stamp ILTR di paspor indo-nya ?
>>>>
>>>> Istri sy sedang hamil anak kami yg kedua. Sedangkan sy dan istri pemegang
>>>> ILTR. Kan anak kami yg kedua otomatis british. Sedangkan sy masih ingin
>>>> anak kedua sy mempunyai cap ILTR di paspornya.
>>>>
>>>> Paspor sy, istri, anak pertama sy semua sudah ada cap ILTR di paspor lama
>>>> kami.
>>>>
>>>> Ada yg punya pengalaman / masukan ?
>>>> Terimakasih sebelumnya.
>>>>
>>>> Salam,
>>>> Roddy
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Kristanti TREPIN <kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org>
>>>> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 17:10:47
>>>> To: Roddy Soenjoto<loverv2004-/E1597aS9LT10XsdtD+***@public.gmane.org>
>>>> Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <uk-***@public.gmane.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
>>> handbook
>>>> published today
>>>>
>>>> Yayy.. Jadi kalo begitu, bisa main kucing2an punya 2 passport ya ?
>>>> hehehe..asal gak ditanya macam2 di KBRI waktu perpanjang passport?
>>>> Visa saya (EEA2) bentuknya kertas A4 dan dibagi 4 section dan terpisah dr
>>>> passport, cuma saya stick pakai paper clip karena menurut UKBA tdk boleh
>>>> dilaminating.
>>>>
>>>> Salam,
>>>> Kristanti
>>>> 2013/1/31 Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>>>>
>>>>> Nah berarti sudah lepas dari paspor malah!
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Perry Ismangil
>>>>> me.ismangil.com
>>>>>  On 31 Jan 2013 17:01, "Eko Kurniawan" <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> kalo sekarang ILR dapetnya BRP card
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>> From: Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
>>>>>>> To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:32 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
>>>>>> handbook published today
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> UKBA tidak menganjurkan  stiker ILR di pindahkan ke passport baru..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lagi pula harus bayar untuk hal yang tidak perlu dan tidak
>>> dianjurkan.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jadi seperti kata pak Perry,  tidak perlu Minta stiker baru untuk
>>>>>> dipindahkan ke Passport ynag baru.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jadi teorinya IILR nya nempel di passport ynag lama sekalipun
>>> passport
>>>>>> sudah diganti 3 atau 4 kali, ILR  nya tetap saja berlaku di passport
>>>> ynag
>>>>>> lama.  Ini hanya teori saja lho ya
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Barangkali rekan rekan yang lain ingin menambahkan. terutama apakah
>>>>>> perlunay memindahkan stikernya ke passport
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>>> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>>>>>>>> To: Adi <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 15:36
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
>>>>>> handbook published today
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ya stiker UKBA kan tidak harus dipindahkan ke paspor baru, so ya
>>>> selalu
>>>>>> ada
>>>>>>>> di paspor lama... (teori lho ya ini :-))
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Perry Ismangil
>>>>>>>> me.ismangil.com
>>>>>>>> On 31 Jan 2013 15:32, "Kristanti TREPIN" <kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Iseng saja nih saya nanya,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Kalo sudah punya passport merah/biru (apapun yang tdk hijau dan
>>>>>> berlambang
>>>>>>>>> garuda), waktu  passport di KBRI apakah petugas tidak cek atau
>>>> tanya
>>>>>>>>> visa/permit to stay di UK? karena biasanya visa/permit to stay di
>>>>>>>>> UK attached di passport?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Terima kasih
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Salam,
>>>>>>>>> Kristanti
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Eko Kurniawan <
>>>>> ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> mungkin perlu naturalisasi lagi jadi WNI :)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>>>>>>>> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:26 AM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in
>>> the
>>>> UK
>>>>>>>>>> handbook published today
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Kalaupun terjadi, ada amnesti ngga ya untuk yang 'terlanjur'
>>>> punya
>>>>>> dua
>>>>>>>>>> paspor :)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 31 January 2013 09:52, Bagus Prakoso <brajamusti-***@public.gmane.org
>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't think it's gonna happen very soon.  It would be a
>>>>> miracle.
>>>>>>>>>> IMHO.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM, <kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perkembangan wacana dual nationalities masuk di UU
>>>>>> Kewarganegaraan
>>>>>>>>> apa
>>>>>>>>>>>>> kabarnya ya?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:48:42
>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <
>>>>>> uk-***@public.gmane.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in
>>>> the
>>>>> UK
>>>>>>>>>> handbook
>>>>>>>>>>>>> published today
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2013/1/31 Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kalau citizenship barangakali masih perlu di timbang
>>> karena
>>>>>> samapi
>>>>>>>>>> saaat
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ini RI tidak mengakui dual citizenhip untuk orang dewasa
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ya dengan sanksi berat sekali yaitu cabut WNI :P
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Perry Ismangil
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[loverv2004-/E1597aS9LT10XsdtD+]

O begitu ya.
Kpn sy liat lagi juklaknya.
Trims pak Perry & pak Eman.

Salam,

Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone

-----Original Message-----
From: Eddy Manurung <***@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 04:18:03
To: Roddy Soenjoto<***@yahoo.co.uk>
Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <***@indoexpat.org>
Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] ILTR di bayi yg baru lahir

Mnurut ku...
Apply passport Indo kemudian apply ILTR utk anaknya.
Baru apply Naturalize Citizen...

Aku lupa linknya, tp pernah kubaca kalau sudah British, gak bisa atau gak
akan dilayani utk apply ILTR...

Salam,
EMan


2013/1/31 Perry Ismangil <***@ismangil.com>

> Sepertinya tidak otomatis kok Pak Roddy, cuma berhak di naturalised
> langsung, istilahnya tetap 'register' as a citizen.
>
> So asal ga di register ya tetap WNI sehingga bisa di apply untuk izin
> tinggal dependant.
>
> --
> Perry Ismangil
> me.ismangil.com
> On 31 Jan 2013 20:49, <***@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >
> > Sekalian tanya,
> >
> > Ada pengalaman rekan2 untuk anak yg otomatis wn british (karena ortunya
> > PR). Bgmn mendapatkan stamp ILTR di paspor indo-nya ?
> >
> > Istri sy sedang hamil anak kami yg kedua. Sedangkan sy dan istri pemegang
> > ILTR. Kan anak kami yg kedua otomatis british. Sedangkan sy masih ingin
> > anak kedua sy mempunyai cap ILTR di paspornya.
> >
> > Paspor sy, istri, anak pertama sy semua sudah ada cap ILTR di paspor lama
> > kami.
> >
> > Ada yg punya pengalaman / masukan ?
> > Terimakasih sebelumnya.
> >
> > Salam,
> > Roddy
> >
> > Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kristanti TREPIN <***@gmail.com>
> > Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 17:10:47
> > To: Roddy Soenjoto<***@yahoo.co.uk>
> > Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <***@indoexpat.org>
> > Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> handbook
> > published today
> >
> > Yayy.. Jadi kalo begitu, bisa main kucing2an punya 2 passport ya ?
> > hehehe..asal gak ditanya macam2 di KBRI waktu perpanjang passport?
> > Visa saya (EEA2) bentuknya kertas A4 dan dibagi 4 section dan terpisah dr
> > passport, cuma saya stick pakai paper clip karena menurut UKBA tdk boleh
> > dilaminating.
> >
> > Salam,
> > Kristanti
> > 2013/1/31 Perry Ismangil <***@ismangil.com>
> >
> > > Nah berarti sudah lepas dari paspor malah!
> > >
> > > --
> > > Perry Ismangil
> > > me.ismangil.com
> > > On 31 Jan 2013 17:01, "Eko Kurniawan" <***@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > kalo sekarang ILR dapetnya BRP card
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >________________________________
> > > > > From: Andreas <***@yahoo.com>
> > > > >To: ***@yahoo.com
> > > > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:32 PM
> > > > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> > > > handbook published today
> > > > >
> > > > >UKBA tidak menganjurkan stiker ILR di pindahkan ke passport baru..
> > > > >
> > > > >Lagi pula harus bayar untuk hal yang tidak perlu dan tidak
> dianjurkan.
> > > > >
> > > > >Jadi seperti kata pak Perry, tidak perlu Minta stiker baru untuk
> > > > dipindahkan ke Passport ynag baru.
> > > > >
> > > > >Jadi teorinya IILR nya nempel di passport ynag lama sekalipun
> passport
> > > > sudah diganti 3 atau 4 kali, ILR nya tetap saja berlaku di passport
> > ynag
> > > > lama. Ini hanya teori saja lho ya
> > > > >
> > > > >Barangkali rekan rekan yang lain ingin menambahkan. terutama apakah
> > > > perlunay memindahkan stikernya ke passport
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >>________________________________
> > > > >> From: Perry Ismangil <***@ismangil.com>
> > > > >>To: Adi <***@yahoo.com>
> > > > >>Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 15:36
> > > > >>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> > > > handbook published today
> > > > >>
> > > > >>Ya stiker UKBA kan tidak harus dipindahkan ke paspor baru, so ya
> > selalu
> > > > ada
> > > > >>di paspor lama... (teori lho ya ini :-))
> > > > >>
> > > > >>--
> > > > >>Perry Ismangil
> > > > >>me.ismangil.com
> > > > >>On 31 Jan 2013 15:32, "Kristanti TREPIN" <***@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> Iseng saja nih saya nanya,
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Kalo sudah punya passport merah/biru (apapun yang tdk hijau dan
> > > > berlambang
> > > > >>> garuda), waktu passport di KBRI apakah petugas tidak cek atau
> > tanya
> > > > >>> visa/permit to stay di UK? karena biasanya visa/permit to stay di
> > > > >>> UK attached di passport?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Terima kasih
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Salam,
> > > > >>> Kristanti
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Eko Kurniawan <
> > > ***@yahoo.com
> > > > >>> >wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> > mungkin perlu naturalisasi lagi jadi WNI :)
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> >
> > > > >>> > >________________________________
> > > > >>> > > From: Perry Ismangil <***@ismangil.com>
> > > > >>> > >To: ***@yahoo.com
> > > > >>> > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:26 AM
> > > > >>> > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in
> the
> > UK
> > > > >>> > handbook published today
> > > > >>> > >
> > > > >>> > >Kalaupun terjadi, ada amnesti ngga ya untuk yang 'terlanjur'
> > punya
> > > > dua
> > > > >>> > paspor :)
> > > > >>> > >
> > > > >>> > >On 31 January 2013 09:52, Bagus Prakoso <***@gmail.com
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >>> > >> I don't think it's gonna happen very soon. It would be a
> > > miracle.
> > > > >>> > IMHO.
> > > > >>> > >>
> > > > >>> > >> Chris
> > > > >>> > >>
> > > > >>> > >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM, <***@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > >>> > >>
> > > > >>> > >>> Perkembangan wacana dual nationalities masuk di UU
> > > > Kewarganegaraan
> > > > >>> apa
> > > > >>> > >>> kabarnya ya?
> > > > >>> > >>>
> > > > >>> > >>>
> > > > >>> > >>>
> > > > >>> > >>> ------------------
> > > > >>> > >>>
> > > > >>> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >>> > >>> From: Perry Ismangil <***@ismangil.com>
> > > > >>> > >>> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:48:42
> > > > >>> > >>> To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<***@gmail.com>
> > > > >>> > >>> Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <
> > > > ***@indoexpat.org>
> > > > >>> > >>> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in
> > the
> > > UK
> > > > >>> > handbook
> > > > >>> > >>> published today
> > > > >>> > >>>
> > > > >>> > >>> 2013/1/31 Andreas <***@yahoo.com>:
> > > > >>> > >>> >
> > > > >>> > >>> > Kalau citizenship barangakali masih perlu di timbang
> karena
> > > > samapi
> > > > >>> > saaat
> > > > >>> > >>> ini RI tidak mengakui dual citizenhip untuk orang dewasa
> > > > >>> > >>> >
> > > > >>> > >>>
> > > > >>> > >>> Ya dengan sanksi berat sekali yaitu cabut WNI :P
> > > > >>> > >>>
> > > > >>> > >>>
> > > > >>> > >>> --
> > > > >>> > >>> Perry Ismangil
> > > > >>> > >>>
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[Eko Kurniawan]

saya baca katanya kalau mantan WNI, bisa dapet KITAP (semacam permanen resident) langsung ya. Sayangnya implementasi teknisnya masih belom terlalu jelas, padahal sebenernya ini bisa jadi solusi kalau pemegang KITAP bisa kerja dan punya properti di Indonesia tanpa batasan.



>________________________________
> From: Kristanti TREPIN <kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org>
>To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 5:10 PM
>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK handbook published today
>
>Yayy.. Jadi kalo begitu, bisa main kucing2an punya 2 passport ya ?
>hehehe..asal gak ditanya macam2 di KBRI waktu perpanjang passport?
>Visa saya (EEA2) bentuknya kertas A4 dan dibagi 4 section dan terpisah dr
>passport, cuma saya stick pakai paper clip karena menurut UKBA tdk boleh
>dilaminating.
>
>Salam,
>Kristanti
>2013/1/31 Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>
>> Nah berarti sudah lepas dari paspor malah!
>>
>> --
>> Perry Ismangil
>> me.ismangil.com
>>  On 31 Jan 2013 17:01, "Eko Kurniawan" <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>
>> > kalo sekarang ILR dapetnya BRP card
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > >________________________________
>> > > From: Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
>> > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>> > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:32 PM
>> > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
>> > handbook published today
>> > >
>> > >UKBA tidak menganjurkan  stiker ILR di pindahkan ke passport baru..
>> > >
>> > >Lagi pula harus bayar untuk hal yang tidak perlu dan tidak dianjurkan.
>> > >
>> > >Jadi seperti kata pak Perry,  tidak perlu Minta stiker baru untuk
>> > dipindahkan ke Passport ynag baru.
>> > >
>> > >Jadi teorinya IILR nya nempel di passport ynag lama sekalipun passport
>> > sudah diganti 3 atau 4 kali, ILR  nya tetap saja berlaku di passport ynag
>> > lama.  Ini hanya teori saja lho ya
>> > >
>> > >Barangkali rekan rekan yang lain ingin menambahkan. terutama apakah
>> > perlunay memindahkan stikernya ke passport
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >>________________________________
>> > >> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>> > >>To: Adi <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
>> > >>Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 15:36
>> > >>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
>> > handbook published today
>> > >>
>> > >>Ya stiker UKBA kan tidak harus dipindahkan ke paspor baru, so ya selalu
>> > ada
>> > >>di paspor lama... (teori lho ya ini :-))
>> > >>
>> > >>--
>> > >>Perry Ismangil
>> > >>me.ismangil.com
>> > >>On 31 Jan 2013 15:32, "Kristanti TREPIN" <kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> Iseng saja nih saya nanya,
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Kalo sudah punya passport merah/biru (apapun yang tdk hijau dan
>> > berlambang
>> > >>> garuda), waktu  passport di KBRI apakah petugas tidak cek atau tanya
>> > >>> visa/permit to stay di UK? karena biasanya visa/permit to stay di
>> > >>> UK attached di passport?
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Terima kasih
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Salam,
>> > >>> Kristanti
>> > >>>
>> > >>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Eko Kurniawan <
>> ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>> > >>> >wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>> > mungkin perlu naturalisasi lagi jadi WNI :)
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > >________________________________
>> > >>> > > From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>> > >>> > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>> > >>> > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:26 AM
>> > >>> >  >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
>> > >>> > handbook published today
>> > >>> > >
>> > >>> > >Kalaupun terjadi, ada amnesti ngga ya untuk yang 'terlanjur' punya
>> > dua
>> > >>> > paspor :)
>> > >>> > >
>> > >>> > >On 31 January 2013 09:52, Bagus Prakoso <brajamusti-***@public.gmane.org>
>> > wrote:
>> > >>> > >> I don't think it's gonna happen very soon.  It would be a
>> miracle.
>> > >>> > IMHO.
>> > >>> > >>
>> > >>> > >> Chris
>> > >>> > >>
>> > >>> > >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM, <kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
>> wrote:
>> > >>> > >>
>> > >>> > >>> Perkembangan wacana dual nationalities masuk di UU
>> > Kewarganegaraan
>> > >>> apa
>> > >>> > >>> kabarnya ya?
>> > >>> > >>>
>> > >>> > >>>
>> > >>> > >>>
>> > >>> > >>> ------------------
>> > >>> > >>>
>> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message-----
>> > >>> > >>> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>> > >>> > >>> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:48:42
>> > >>> > >>> To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
>> > >>> > >>> Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <
>> > uk-***@public.gmane.org>
>> > >>> > >>> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the
>> UK
>> > >>> > handbook
>> > >>> > >>>  published today
>> > >>> > >>>
>> > >>> > >>> 2013/1/31 Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>:
>> > >>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > >>> > Kalau citizenship barangakali masih perlu di timbang karena
>> > samapi
>> > >>> > saaat
>> > >>> > >>> ini RI tidak mengakui dual citizenhip untuk orang dewasa
>> > >>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > >>>
>> > >>> > >>> Ya dengan sanksi berat sekali yaitu cabut WNI :P
>> > >>> > >>>
>> > >>> > >>>
>> > >>> > >>> --
>> > >>> > >>> Perry Ismangil
>> > >>> > >>>
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[Andreas]

Saya kira hukum bukan untuk kucing kucingan...






>________________________________
> From: Kristanti TREPIN <kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org>
>To: Adi <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
>Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 17:10
>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK handbook published today
>
>Yayy.. Jadi kalo begitu, bisa main kucing2an punya 2 passport ya ?
>hehehe..asal gak ditanya macam2 di KBRI waktu perpanjang passport?
>Visa saya (EEA2) bentuknya kertas A4 dan dibagi 4 section dan terpisah dr
>passport, cuma saya stick pakai paper clip karena menurut UKBA tdk boleh
>dilaminating.
>
>Salam,
>Kristanti
>2013/1/31 Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>
>> Nah berarti sudah lepas dari paspor malah!
>>
>> --
>> Perry Ismangil
>> me.ismangil.com
>>  On 31 Jan 2013 17:01, "Eko Kurniawan" <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>
>> > kalo sekarang ILR dapetnya BRP card
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > >________________________________
>> > > From: Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
>> > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>> > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:32 PM
>> > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
>> > handbook published today
>> > >
>> > >UKBA tidak menganjurkan  stiker ILR di pindahkan ke passport baru..
>> > >
>> > >Lagi pula harus bayar untuk hal yang tidak perlu dan tidak dianjurkan.
>> > >
>> > >Jadi seperti kata pak Perry,  tidak perlu Minta stiker baru untuk
>> > dipindahkan ke Passport ynag baru.
>> > >
>> > >Jadi teorinya IILR nya nempel di passport ynag lama sekalipun passport
>> > sudah diganti 3 atau 4 kali, ILR  nya tetap saja berlaku di passport ynag
>> > lama.  Ini hanya teori saja lho ya
>> > >
>> > >Barangkali rekan rekan yang lain ingin menambahkan. terutama apakah
>> > perlunay memindahkan stikernya ke passport
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >>________________________________
>> > >> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>> > >>To: Adi <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
>> > >>Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 15:36
>> > >>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
>> > handbook published today
>> > >>
>> > >>Ya stiker UKBA kan tidak harus dipindahkan ke paspor baru, so ya selalu
>> > ada
>> > >>di paspor lama... (teori lho ya ini :-))
>> > >>
>> > >>--
>> > >>Perry Ismangil
>> > >>me.ismangil.com
>> > >>On 31 Jan 2013 15:32, "Kristanti TREPIN" <kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> Iseng saja nih saya nanya,
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Kalo sudah punya passport merah/biru (apapun yang tdk hijau dan
>> > berlambang
>> > >>> garuda), waktu  passport di KBRI apakah petugas tidak cek atau tanya
>> > >>> visa/permit to stay di UK? karena biasanya visa/permit to stay di
>> > >>> UK attached di passport?
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Terima kasih
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Salam,
>> > >>> Kristanti
>> > >>>
>> > >>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Eko Kurniawan <
>> ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>> > >>> >wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>> > mungkin perlu naturalisasi lagi jadi WNI :)
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > >________________________________
>> > >>> > > From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>> > >>> > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>> > >>> > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:26 AM
>> > >>> >  >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
>> > >>> > handbook published today
>> > >>> > >
>> > >>> > >Kalaupun terjadi, ada amnesti ngga ya untuk yang 'terlanjur' punya
>> > dua
>> > >>> > paspor :)
>> > >>> > >
>> > >>> > >On 31 January 2013 09:52, Bagus Prakoso <brajamusti-***@public.gmane.org>
>> > wrote:
>> > >>> > >> I don't think it's gonna happen very soon.  It would be a
>> miracle.
>> > >>> > IMHO.
>> > >>> > >>
>> > >>> > >> Chris
>> > >>> > >>
>> > >>> > >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM, <kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
>> wrote:
>> > >>> > >>
>> > >>> > >>> Perkembangan wacana dual nationalities masuk di UU
>> > Kewarganegaraan
>> > >>> apa
>> > >>> > >>> kabarnya ya?
>> > >>> > >>>
>> > >>> > >>>
>> > >>> > >>>
>> > >>> > >>> ------------------
>> > >>> > >>>
>> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message-----
>> > >>> > >>> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>> > >>> > >>> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:48:42
>> > >>> > >>> To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
>> > >>> > >>> Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <
>> > uk-***@public.gmane.org>
>> > >>> > >>> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the
>> UK
>> > >>> > handbook
>> > >>> > >>>  published today
>> > >>> > >>>
>> > >>> > >>> 2013/1/31 Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>:
>> > >>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > >>> > Kalau citizenship barangakali masih perlu di timbang karena
>> > samapi
>> > >>> > saaat
>> > >>> > >>> ini RI tidak mengakui dual citizenhip untuk orang dewasa
>> > >>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > >>>
>> > >>> > >>> Ya dengan sanksi berat sekali yaitu cabut WNI :P
>> > >>> > >>>
>> > >>> > >>>
>> > >>> > >>> --
>> > >>> > >>> Perry Ismangil
>> > >>> > >>>
>> _________________________________________________________________
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>> visit:
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>> > >>>
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>> > >>> > >
>> > >>> > >
>> > >>> > >--
>> > >>> > >Perry Ismangil
>> > >>> > >_________________________________________________________________
>> > >>> > >To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit:
>> > >>> > >
>> > http://lists.indoexpat.org/mailman/options/uk/ekokurniawan%40yahoo.com
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[Perry Ismangil]

Setuju, hukum bukan untuk kucing2an, melainkan untuk kesejahteraan bersama.

Untuk saat ini, pembuat hukum di RI masih percaya kita akan lebih sejahtera
dengan single citizenship vs dual citizenship. Seperti juga banyak negara
lain di dunia.

--
Perry Ismangil
me.ismangil.com
On 1 Feb 2013 10:09, "Andreas" <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> Saya kira hukum bukan untuk kucing kucingan...
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >________________________________
> > From: Kristanti TREPIN <kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org>
> >To: Adi <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
> >Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 17:10
> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> handbook published today
> >
> >Yayy.. Jadi kalo begitu, bisa main kucing2an punya 2 passport ya ?
> >hehehe..asal gak ditanya macam2 di KBRI waktu perpanjang passport?
> >Visa saya (EEA2) bentuknya kertas A4 dan dibagi 4 section dan terpisah dr
> >passport, cuma saya stick pakai paper clip karena menurut UKBA tdk boleh
> >dilaminating.
> >
> >Salam,
> >Kristanti
> >2013/1/31 Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> >
> >> Nah berarti sudah lepas dari paspor malah!
> >>
> >> --
> >> Perry Ismangil
> >> me.ismangil.com
> >> On 31 Jan 2013 17:01, "Eko Kurniawan" <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> > kalo sekarang ILR dapetnya BRP card
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > >________________________________
> >> > > From: Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> >> > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:32 PM
> >> > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> >> > handbook published today
> >> > >
> >> > >UKBA tidak menganjurkan stiker ILR di pindahkan ke passport baru..
> >> > >
> >> > >Lagi pula harus bayar untuk hal yang tidak perlu dan tidak
> dianjurkan.
> >> > >
> >> > >Jadi seperti kata pak Perry, tidak perlu Minta stiker baru untuk
> >> > dipindahkan ke Passport ynag baru.
> >> > >
> >> > >Jadi teorinya IILR nya nempel di passport ynag lama sekalipun
> passport
> >> > sudah diganti 3 atau 4 kali, ILR nya tetap saja berlaku di passport
> ynag
> >> > lama. Ini hanya teori saja lho ya
> >> > >
> >> > >Barangkali rekan rekan yang lain ingin menambahkan. terutama apakah
> >> > perlunay memindahkan stikernya ke passport
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >>________________________________
> >> > >> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> > >>To: Adi <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> > >>Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 15:36
> >> > >>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> >> > handbook published today
> >> > >>
> >> > >>Ya stiker UKBA kan tidak harus dipindahkan ke paspor baru, so ya
> selalu
> >> > ada
> >> > >>di paspor lama... (teori lho ya ini :-))
> >> > >>
> >> > >>--
> >> > >>Perry Ismangil
> >> > >>me.ismangil.com
> >> > >>On 31 Jan 2013 15:32, "Kristanti TREPIN" <kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org>
> wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >>> Iseng saja nih saya nanya,
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Kalo sudah punya passport merah/biru (apapun yang tdk hijau dan
> >> > berlambang
> >> > >>> garuda), waktu passport di KBRI apakah petugas tidak cek atau
> tanya
> >> > >>> visa/permit to stay di UK? karena biasanya visa/permit to stay di
> >> > >>> UK attached di passport?
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Terima kasih
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Salam,
> >> > >>> Kristanti
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Eko Kurniawan <
> >> ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> >> > >>> >wrote:
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> > mungkin perlu naturalisasi lagi jadi WNI :)
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > >________________________________
> >> > >>> > > From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> > >>> > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> >> > >>> > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:26 AM
> >> > >>> > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in
> the UK
> >> > >>> > handbook published today
> >> > >>> > >
> >> > >>> > >Kalaupun terjadi, ada amnesti ngga ya untuk yang 'terlanjur'
> punya
> >> > dua
> >> > >>> > paspor :)
> >> > >>> > >
> >> > >>> > >On 31 January 2013 09:52, Bagus Prakoso <brajamusti-***@public.gmane.org>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >>> > >> I don't think it's gonna happen very soon. It would be a
> >> miracle.
> >> > >>> > IMHO.
> >> > >>> > >>
> >> > >>> > >> Chris
> >> > >>> > >>
> >> > >>> > >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM, <kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
> >> wrote:
> >> > >>> > >>
> >> > >>> > >>> Perkembangan wacana dual nationalities masuk di UU
> >> > Kewarganegaraan
> >> > >>> apa
> >> > >>> > >>> kabarnya ya?
> >> > >>> > >>>
> >> > >>> > >>>
> >> > >>> > >>>
> >> > >>> > >>> ------------------
> >> > >>> > >>>
> >> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> >> > >>> > >>> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> > >>> > >>> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:48:42
> >> > >>> > >>> To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
> >> > >>> > >>> Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <
> >> > uk-***@public.gmane.org>
> >> > >>> > >>> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in
> the
> >> UK
> >> > >>> > handbook
> >> > >>> > >>> published today
> >> > >>> > >>>
> >> > >>> > >>> 2013/1/31 Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>:
> >> > >>> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > >>> > Kalau citizenship barangakali masih perlu di timbang
> karena
> >> > samapi
> >> > >>> > saaat
> >> > >>> > >>> ini RI tidak mengakui dual citizenhip untuk orang dewasa
> >> > >>> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > >>>
> >> > >>> > >>> Ya dengan sanksi berat sekali yaitu cabut WNI :P
> >> > >>> > >>>
> >> > >>> > >>>
> >> > >>> > >>> --
> >> > >>> > >>> Perry Ismangil
> >> > >>> > >>>
> >> _________________________________________________________________
> >> > >>> > >>> To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please
> >> visit:
> >> > >>> > >>>
> >> > >>>
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> >> > >>> > >>>
> >> > >>> > >>>
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> >> > >>> > >
> >> > >>> > >--
> >> > >>> > >Perry Ismangil
> >> > >>> >
> >_________________________________________________________________
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[Dono Widiatmoko]

Bukan 'masih percaya' oom Perry, tapi kebanyakan belum tahu isu
masalahnya. Selain itu, tunggakan pembuatan UU di DPR RI masih seabrek
- semuanya pengen diatur undang-undang. Urusan kewarganegaran ganda
mungkin belum dianggap penting.
Untuk itu perlu woro-woro menyuarakan isu ini pada mereka-mereka itu.

:Dono

2013/2/1 Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>:
> Setuju, hukum bukan untuk kucing2an, melainkan untuk kesejahteraan bersama.
>
> Untuk saat ini, pembuat hukum di RI masih percaya kita akan lebih sejahtera
> dengan single citizenship vs dual citizenship. Seperti juga banyak negara
> lain di dunia.
>
> --
> Perry Ismangil
> me.ismangil.com
> On 1 Feb 2013 10:09, "Andreas" <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
>> Saya kira hukum bukan untuk kucing kucingan...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >________________________________
>> > From: Kristanti TREPIN <kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org>
>> >To: Adi <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
>> >Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 17:10
>> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
>> handbook published today
>> >
>> >Yayy.. Jadi kalo begitu, bisa main kucing2an punya 2 passport ya ?
>> >hehehe..asal gak ditanya macam2 di KBRI waktu perpanjang passport?
>> >Visa saya (EEA2) bentuknya kertas A4 dan dibagi 4 section dan terpisah dr
>> >passport, cuma saya stick pakai paper clip karena menurut UKBA tdk boleh
>> >dilaminating.
>> >
>> >Salam,
>> >Kristanti
>> >2013/1/31 Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>> >
>> >> Nah berarti sudah lepas dari paspor malah!
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Perry Ismangil
>> >> me.ismangil.com
>> >> On 31 Jan 2013 17:01, "Eko Kurniawan" <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > kalo sekarang ILR dapetnya BRP card
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > >________________________________
>> >> > > From: Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
>> >> > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>> >> > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:32 PM
>> >> > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
>> >> > handbook published today
>> >> > >
>> >> > >UKBA tidak menganjurkan stiker ILR di pindahkan ke passport baru..
>> >> > >
>> >> > >Lagi pula harus bayar untuk hal yang tidak perlu dan tidak
>> dianjurkan.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >Jadi seperti kata pak Perry, tidak perlu Minta stiker baru untuk
>> >> > dipindahkan ke Passport ynag baru.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >Jadi teorinya IILR nya nempel di passport ynag lama sekalipun
>> passport
>> >> > sudah diganti 3 atau 4 kali, ILR nya tetap saja berlaku di passport
>> ynag
>> >> > lama. Ini hanya teori saja lho ya
>> >> > >
>> >> > >Barangkali rekan rekan yang lain ingin menambahkan. terutama apakah
>> >> > perlunay memindahkan stikernya ke passport
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >>________________________________
>> >> > >> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>> >> > >>To: Adi <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
>> >> > >>Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 15:36
>> >> > >>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
>> >> > handbook published today
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>Ya stiker UKBA kan tidak harus dipindahkan ke paspor baru, so ya
>> selalu
>> >> > ada
>> >> > >>di paspor lama... (teori lho ya ini :-))
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>--
>> >> > >>Perry Ismangil
>> >> > >>me.ismangil.com
>> >> > >>On 31 Jan 2013 15:32, "Kristanti TREPIN" <kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org>
>> wrote:
>> >> > >>
>> >> > >>> Iseng saja nih saya nanya,
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> Kalo sudah punya passport merah/biru (apapun yang tdk hijau dan
>> >> > berlambang
>> >> > >>> garuda), waktu passport di KBRI apakah petugas tidak cek atau
>> tanya
>> >> > >>> visa/permit to stay di UK? karena biasanya visa/permit to stay di
>> >> > >>> UK attached di passport?
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> Terima kasih
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> Salam,
>> >> > >>> Kristanti
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Eko Kurniawan <
>> >> ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>> >> > >>> >wrote:
>> >> > >>>
>> >> > >>> > mungkin perlu naturalisasi lagi jadi WNI :)
>> >> > >>> >
>> >> > >>> >
>> >> > >>> >
>> >> > >>> > >________________________________
>> >> > >>> > > From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>> >> > >>> > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>> >> > >>> > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:26 AM
>> >> > >>> > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in
>> the UK
>> >> > >>> > handbook published today
>> >> > >>> > >
>> >> > >>> > >Kalaupun terjadi, ada amnesti ngga ya untuk yang 'terlanjur'
>> punya
>> >> > dua
>> >> > >>> > paspor :)
>> >> > >>> > >
>> >> > >>> > >On 31 January 2013 09:52, Bagus Prakoso <brajamusti-***@public.gmane.org>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> > >>> > >> I don't think it's gonna happen very soon. It would be a
>> >> miracle.
>> >> > >>> > IMHO.
>> >> > >>> > >>
>> >> > >>> > >> Chris
>> >> > >>> > >>
>> >> > >>> > >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM, <kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > >>> > >>
>> >> > >>> > >>> Perkembangan wacana dual nationalities masuk di UU
>> >> > Kewarganegaraan
>> >> > >>> apa
>> >> > >>> > >>> kabarnya ya?
>> >> > >>> > >>>
>> >> > >>> > >>>
>> >> > >>> > >>>
>> >> > >>> > >>> ------------------
>> >> > >>> > >>>
>> >> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >> > >>> > >>> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>> >> > >>> > >>> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:48:42
>> >> > >>> > >>> To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
>> >> > >>> > >>> Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <
>> >> > uk-***@public.gmane.org>
>> >> > >>> > >>> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in
>> the
>> >> UK
>> >> > >>> > handbook
>> >> > >>> > >>> published today
>> >> > >>> > >>>
>> >> > >>> > >>> 2013/1/31 Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>:
>> >> > >>> > >>> >
>> >> > >>> > >>> > Kalau citizenship barangakali masih perlu di timbang
>> karena
>> >> > samapi
>> >> > >>> > saaat
>> >> > >>> > >>> ini RI tidak mengakui dual citizenhip untuk orang dewasa
>> >> > >>> > >>> >
>> >> > >>> > >>>
>> >> > >>> > >>> Ya dengan sanksi berat sekali yaitu cabut WNI :P
>> >> > >>> > >>>
>> >> > >>> > >>>
>> >> > >>> > >>> --
>> >> > >>> > >>> Perry Ismangil
>> >> > >>> > >>>
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[Kristanti TREPIN]

Setuju kalau hukum seharusnya memang ditujukn untuk kesejahteraan bersama..
Yang menurut 1 pihak sejahtera belum tentu membuat pihak yang lain merasa
sejahtera.. Saya rasa banyak pihak yang akan lebih merasa sejahtera kalo
negara RI memperbolehkan 2 kewarganegaraan..

Saya rasa kembali ke individu masing-masing, mau keep passport hijau
silahkan, mau ambil passport biru/merah silahkan..

so far saya masih punya 1 passport aja, walau sering mangkel dan ngedumel
kalo mesti urus visa kesana-kesini kalau mau ada urusan pekerjaan..terutama
sebagai wanita pelaku kawin campur, perasaan saya di-anak-tirikan oleh
pemerintah RI lebih banyak lagi..

Salam hangat dan selamat berakhir pekan

Kristanti


2013/2/1 Dono Widiatmoko <dono.widiatmoko-***@public.gmane.org>

> Bukan 'masih percaya' oom Perry, tapi kebanyakan belum tahu isu
> masalahnya. Selain itu, tunggakan pembuatan UU di DPR RI masih seabrek
> - semuanya pengen diatur undang-undang. Urusan kewarganegaran ganda
> mungkin belum dianggap penting.
> Untuk itu perlu woro-woro menyuarakan isu ini pada mereka-mereka itu.
>
> :Dono
>
> 2013/2/1 Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>:
> > Setuju, hukum bukan untuk kucing2an, melainkan untuk kesejahteraan
> bersama.
> >
> > Untuk saat ini, pembuat hukum di RI masih percaya kita akan lebih
> sejahtera
> > dengan single citizenship vs dual citizenship. Seperti juga banyak negara
> > lain di dunia.
> >
> > --
> > Perry Ismangil
> > me.ismangil.com
> > On 1 Feb 2013 10:09, "Andreas" <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Saya kira hukum bukan untuk kucing kucingan...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >________________________________
> >> > From: Kristanti TREPIN <kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >To: Adi <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 17:10
> >> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> >> handbook published today
> >> >
> >> >Yayy.. Jadi kalo begitu, bisa main kucing2an punya 2 passport ya ?
> >> >hehehe..asal gak ditanya macam2 di KBRI waktu perpanjang passport?
> >> >Visa saya (EEA2) bentuknya kertas A4 dan dibagi 4 section dan terpisah
> dr
> >> >passport, cuma saya stick pakai paper clip karena menurut UKBA tdk
> boleh
> >> >dilaminating.
> >> >
> >> >Salam,
> >> >Kristanti
> >> >2013/1/31 Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >
> >> >> Nah berarti sudah lepas dari paspor malah!
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Perry Ismangil
> >> >> me.ismangil.com
> >> >> On 31 Jan 2013 17:01, "Eko Kurniawan" <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > kalo sekarang ILR dapetnya BRP card
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > >________________________________
> >> >> > > From: Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >> > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> >> >> > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:32 PM
> >> >> > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> >> >> > handbook published today
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >UKBA tidak menganjurkan stiker ILR di pindahkan ke passport
> baru..
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >Lagi pula harus bayar untuk hal yang tidak perlu dan tidak
> >> dianjurkan.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >Jadi seperti kata pak Perry, tidak perlu Minta stiker baru untuk
> >> >> > dipindahkan ke Passport ynag baru.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >Jadi teorinya IILR nya nempel di passport ynag lama sekalipun
> >> passport
> >> >> > sudah diganti 3 atau 4 kali, ILR nya tetap saja berlaku di
> passport
> >> ynag
> >> >> > lama. Ini hanya teori saja lho ya
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >Barangkali rekan rekan yang lain ingin menambahkan. terutama
> apakah
> >> >> > perlunay memindahkan stikernya ke passport
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >>________________________________
> >> >> > >> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >> > >>To: Adi <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >> > >>Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 15:36
> >> >> > >>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> >> >> > handbook published today
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>Ya stiker UKBA kan tidak harus dipindahkan ke paspor baru, so ya
> >> selalu
> >> >> > ada
> >> >> > >>di paspor lama... (teori lho ya ini :-))
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>--
> >> >> > >>Perry Ismangil
> >> >> > >>me.ismangil.com
> >> >> > >>On 31 Jan 2013 15:32, "Kristanti TREPIN" <kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org>
> >> wrote:
> >> >> > >>
> >> >> > >>> Iseng saja nih saya nanya,
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> Kalo sudah punya passport merah/biru (apapun yang tdk hijau dan
> >> >> > berlambang
> >> >> > >>> garuda), waktu passport di KBRI apakah petugas tidak cek atau
> >> tanya
> >> >> > >>> visa/permit to stay di UK? karena biasanya visa/permit to stay
> di
> >> >> > >>> UK attached di passport?
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> Terima kasih
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> Salam,
> >> >> > >>> Kristanti
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Eko Kurniawan <
> >> >> ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> >> >> > >>> >wrote:
> >> >> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> > mungkin perlu naturalisasi lagi jadi WNI :)
> >> >> > >>> >
> >> >> > >>> >
> >> >> > >>> >
> >> >> > >>> > >________________________________
> >> >> > >>> > > From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >> > >>> > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> >> >> > >>> > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:26 AM
> >> >> > >>> > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in
> >> the UK
> >> >> > >>> > handbook published today
> >> >> > >>> > >
> >> >> > >>> > >Kalaupun terjadi, ada amnesti ngga ya untuk yang 'terlanjur'
> >> punya
> >> >> > dua
> >> >> > >>> > paspor :)
> >> >> > >>> > >
> >> >> > >>> > >On 31 January 2013 09:52, Bagus Prakoso <
> brajamusti-***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> > >>> > >> I don't think it's gonna happen very soon. It would be a
> >> >> miracle.
> >> >> > >>> > IMHO.
> >> >> > >>> > >>
> >> >> > >>> > >> Chris
> >> >> > >>> > >>
> >> >> > >>> > >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM, <kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> > >>> > >>
> >> >> > >>> > >>> Perkembangan wacana dual nationalities masuk di UU
> >> >> > Kewarganegaraan
> >> >> > >>> apa
> >> >> > >>> > >>> kabarnya ya?
> >> >> > >>> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> > >>> ------------------
> >> >> > >>> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> > >>> > >>> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >> > >>> > >>> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:48:42
> >> >> > >>> > >>> To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >> > >>> > >>> Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <
> >> >> > uk-***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >> > >>> > >>> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life
> in
> >> the
> >> >> UK
> >> >> > >>> > handbook
> >> >> > >>> > >>> published today
> >> >> > >>> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> > >>> 2013/1/31 Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>:
> >> >> > >>> > >>> >
> >> >> > >>> > >>> > Kalau citizenship barangakali masih perlu di timbang
> >> karena
> >> >> > samapi
> >> >> > >>> > saaat
> >> >> > >>> > >>> ini RI tidak mengakui dual citizenhip untuk orang dewasa
> >> >> > >>> > >>> >
> >> >> > >>> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> > >>> Ya dengan sanksi berat sekali yaitu cabut WNI :P
> >> >> > >>> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> > >>>
> >> >> > >>> > >>> --
> >> >> > >>> > >>> Perry Ismangil
> >> >> > >>> > >>>
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[Perry Ismangil]

Ya minimal sekarang ada suara tingkat tinggi macam Dino Patti Djalal,
dan kemarin KBRI London juga acknowledge soal 'perantau' (istilah
preference Pak Thayeb) ini.

Mari kita berperan juga, berlaku sebagai perantau yang baik, agar
persepsi masyarakat 'brain drain' bisa menjadi 'brain gain' :)

2013/2/1 Dono Widiatmoko <dono.widiatmoko-***@public.gmane.org>:
> Bukan 'masih percaya' oom Perry, tapi kebanyakan belum tahu isu
> masalahnya. Selain itu, tunggakan pembuatan UU di DPR RI masih seabrek
> - semuanya pengen diatur undang-undang. Urusan kewarganegaran ganda
> mungkin belum dianggap penting.
> Untuk itu perlu woro-woro menyuarakan isu ini pada mereka-mereka itu.
>
> :Dono
>
> 2013/2/1 Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>:
>> Setuju, hukum bukan untuk kucing2an, melainkan untuk kesejahteraan bersama.
>>
>> Untuk saat ini, pembuat hukum di RI masih percaya kita akan lebih sejahtera
>> dengan single citizenship vs dual citizenship. Seperti juga banyak negara
>> lain di dunia.
>>
>> --
>> Perry Ismangil
>> me.ismangil.com
>> On 1 Feb 2013 10:09, "Andreas" <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Saya kira hukum bukan untuk kucing kucingan...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >________________________________
>>> > From: Kristanti TREPIN <kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org>
>>> >To: Adi <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
>>> >Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 17:10
>>> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
>>> handbook published today
>>> >
>>> >Yayy.. Jadi kalo begitu, bisa main kucing2an punya 2 passport ya ?
>>> >hehehe..asal gak ditanya macam2 di KBRI waktu perpanjang passport?
>>> >Visa saya (EEA2) bentuknya kertas A4 dan dibagi 4 section dan terpisah dr
>>> >passport, cuma saya stick pakai paper clip karena menurut UKBA tdk boleh
>>> >dilaminating.
>>> >
>>> >Salam,
>>> >Kristanti
>>> >2013/1/31 Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>>> >
>>> >> Nah berarti sudah lepas dari paspor malah!
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> Perry Ismangil
>>> >> me.ismangil.com
>>> >> On 31 Jan 2013 17:01, "Eko Kurniawan" <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> > kalo sekarang ILR dapetnya BRP card
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> > >________________________________
>>> >> > > From: Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
>>> >> > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>>> >> > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:32 PM
>>> >> > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
>>> >> > handbook published today
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > >UKBA tidak menganjurkan stiker ILR di pindahkan ke passport baru..
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > >Lagi pula harus bayar untuk hal yang tidak perlu dan tidak
>>> dianjurkan.
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > >Jadi seperti kata pak Perry, tidak perlu Minta stiker baru untuk
>>> >> > dipindahkan ke Passport ynag baru.
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > >Jadi teorinya IILR nya nempel di passport ynag lama sekalipun
>>> passport
>>> >> > sudah diganti 3 atau 4 kali, ILR nya tetap saja berlaku di passport
>>> ynag
>>> >> > lama. Ini hanya teori saja lho ya
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > >Barangkali rekan rekan yang lain ingin menambahkan. terutama apakah
>>> >> > perlunay memindahkan stikernya ke passport
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > >
>>> >> > >>________________________________
>>> >> > >> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>>> >> > >>To: Adi <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
>>> >> > >>Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 15:36
>>> >> > >>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
>>> >> > handbook published today
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >>Ya stiker UKBA kan tidak harus dipindahkan ke paspor baru, so ya
>>> selalu
>>> >> > ada
>>> >> > >>di paspor lama... (teori lho ya ini :-))
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >>--
>>> >> > >>Perry Ismangil
>>> >> > >>me.ismangil.com
>>> >> > >>On 31 Jan 2013 15:32, "Kristanti TREPIN" <kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> >> > >>
>>> >> > >>> Iseng saja nih saya nanya,
>>> >> > >>>
>>> >> > >>> Kalo sudah punya passport merah/biru (apapun yang tdk hijau dan
>>> >> > berlambang
>>> >> > >>> garuda), waktu passport di KBRI apakah petugas tidak cek atau
>>> tanya
>>> >> > >>> visa/permit to stay di UK? karena biasanya visa/permit to stay di
>>> >> > >>> UK attached di passport?
>>> >> > >>>
>>> >> > >>> Terima kasih
>>> >> > >>>
>>> >> > >>> Salam,
>>> >> > >>> Kristanti
>>> >> > >>>
>>> >> > >>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Eko Kurniawan <
>>> >> ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>>> >> > >>> >wrote:
>>> >> > >>>
>>> >> > >>> > mungkin perlu naturalisasi lagi jadi WNI :)
>>> >> > >>> >
>>> >> > >>> >
>>> >> > >>> >
>>> >> > >>> > >________________________________
>>> >> > >>> > > From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>>> >> > >>> > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>>> >> > >>> > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:26 AM
>>> >> > >>> > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in
>>> the UK
>>> >> > >>> > handbook published today
>>> >> > >>> > >
>>> >> > >>> > >Kalaupun terjadi, ada amnesti ngga ya untuk yang 'terlanjur'
>>> punya
>>> >> > dua
>>> >> > >>> > paspor :)
>>> >> > >>> > >
>>> >> > >>> > >On 31 January 2013 09:52, Bagus Prakoso <brajamusti-***@public.gmane.org>
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> >> > >>> > >> I don't think it's gonna happen very soon. It would be a
>>> >> miracle.
>>> >> > >>> > IMHO.
>>> >> > >>> > >>
>>> >> > >>> > >> Chris
>>> >> > >>> > >>
>>> >> > >>> > >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM, <kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >> > >>> > >>
>>> >> > >>> > >>> Perkembangan wacana dual nationalities masuk di UU
>>> >> > Kewarganegaraan
>>> >> > >>> apa
>>> >> > >>> > >>> kabarnya ya?
>>> >> > >>> > >>>
>>> >> > >>> > >>>
>>> >> > >>> > >>>
>>> >> > >>> > >>> ------------------
>>> >> > >>> > >>>
>>> >> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message-----
>>> >> > >>> > >>> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>>> >> > >>> > >>> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:48:42
>>> >> > >>> > >>> To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
>>> >> > >>> > >>> Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <
>>> >> > uk-***@public.gmane.org>
>>> >> > >>> > >>> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in
>>> the
>>> >> UK
>>> >> > >>> > handbook
>>> >> > >>> > >>> published today
>>> >> > >>> > >>>
>>> >> > >>> > >>> 2013/1/31 Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>:
>>> >> > >>> > >>> >
>>> >> > >>> > >>> > Kalau citizenship barangakali masih perlu di timbang
>>> karena
>>> >> > samapi
>>> >> > >>> > saaat
>>> >> > >>> > >>> ini RI tidak mengakui dual citizenhip untuk orang dewasa
>>> >> > >>> > >>> >
>>> >> > >>> > >>>
>>> >> > >>> > >>> Ya dengan sanksi berat sekali yaitu cabut WNI :P
>>> >> > >>> > >>>
>>> >> > >>> > >>>
>>> >> > >>> > >>> --
>>> >> > >>> > >>> Perry Ismangil
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[Andreas]

Saya kira pemerintah RI perlu mencontoh Rusia.
Lihat saja pemain tennis kelar dunia, Interntional athletes, umumnya mereka dual kewarganegaran krn Rusi membenerkan WN memperoleh WN yang lain, tapi tidak sebaliknya  mereka dual citizenship tetaoi pd saat pehelatan dunia mereka bukan memakai US citizenship tapi russian citizenship.


Nationalime itu relevant beberapa dekade ynag lalum tetapi dgn jaman globalisasi kita adalah citizen of the workd.






>________________________________
> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>To: Adi <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
>Sent: Friday, 1 February 2013, 10:54
>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK handbook published today
>
>Ya minimal sekarang ada suara tingkat tinggi macam Dino Patti Djalal,
>dan kemarin KBRI London juga acknowledge soal 'perantau' (istilah
>preference Pak Thayeb) ini.
>
>Mari kita berperan juga, berlaku sebagai perantau yang baik, agar
>persepsi masyarakat 'brain drain' bisa menjadi 'brain gain' :)
>
>2013/2/1 Dono Widiatmoko <dono.widiatmoko-***@public.gmane.org>:
>> Bukan 'masih percaya' oom Perry, tapi kebanyakan belum tahu isu
>> masalahnya. Selain itu, tunggakan pembuatan UU di DPR RI masih seabrek
>> - semuanya pengen diatur undang-undang. Urusan kewarganegaran ganda
>> mungkin belum dianggap penting.
>> Untuk itu perlu woro-woro menyuarakan isu ini pada mereka-mereka itu.
>>
>> :Dono
>>
>> 2013/2/1 Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>:
>>> Setuju, hukum bukan untuk kucing2an, melainkan untuk kesejahteraan bersama.
>>>
>>> Untuk saat ini, pembuat hukum di RI masih percaya kita akan lebih sejahtera
>>> dengan single citizenship vs dual citizenship. Seperti juga banyak negara
>>> lain di dunia.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Perry Ismangil
>>> me.ismangil.com
>>>  On 1 Feb 2013 10:09, "Andreas" <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Saya kira hukum bukan untuk kucing kucingan...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >________________________________
>>>> > From: Kristanti TREPIN <kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org>
>>>> >To: Adi <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
>>>> >Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 17:10
>>>> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
>>>> handbook published today
>>>> >
>>>> >Yayy.. Jadi kalo begitu, bisa main kucing2an punya 2 passport ya ?
>>>> >hehehe..asal gak ditanya macam2 di KBRI waktu perpanjang passport?
>>>> >Visa saya (EEA2) bentuknya kertas A4 dan dibagi 4 section dan terpisah dr
>>>> >passport, cuma saya stick pakai paper clip karena menurut UKBA tdk boleh
>>>> >dilaminating.
>>>> >
>>>> >Salam,
>>>> >Kristanti
>>>> >2013/1/31 Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>>>> >
>>>> >> Nah berarti sudah lepas dari paspor malah!
>>>> >>
>>>> >> --
>>>> >> Perry Ismangil
>>>> >> me.ismangil.com
>>>> >>  On 31 Jan 2013 17:01, "Eko Kurniawan" <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> > kalo sekarang ILR dapetnya BRP card
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > >________________________________
>>>> >> > > From: Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
>>>> >> > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>>>> >> > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:32 PM
>>>> >> > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
>>>> >> > handbook published today
>>>> >> > >
>>>> >> > >UKBA tidak menganjurkan  stiker ILR di pindahkan ke passport baru..
>>>> >> > >
>>>> >> > >Lagi pula harus bayar untuk hal yang tidak perlu dan tidak
>>>> dianjurkan.
>>>> >> > >
>>>> >> > >Jadi seperti kata pak Perry,  tidak perlu Minta stiker baru untuk
>>>> >> > dipindahkan ke Passport ynag baru.
>>>> >> > >
>>>> >> > >Jadi teorinya IILR nya nempel di passport ynag lama sekalipun
>>>> passport
>>>> >> > sudah diganti 3 atau 4 kali, ILR  nya tetap saja berlaku di passport
>>>> ynag
>>>> >> > lama.  Ini hanya teori saja lho ya
>>>> >> > >
>>>> >> > >Barangkali rekan rekan yang lain ingin menambahkan. terutama apakah
>>>> >> > perlunay memindahkan stikernya ke passport
>>>> >> > >
>>>> >> > >
>>>> >> > >
>>>> >> > >
>>>> >> > >
>>>> >> > >
>>>> >> > >
>>>> >> > >
>>>> >> > >
>>>> >> > >>________________________________
>>>> >> > >> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>>>> >> > >>To: Adi <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
>>>> >> > >>Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 15:36
>>>> >> > >>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
>>>> >> > handbook published today
>>>> >> > >>
>>>> >> > >>Ya stiker UKBA kan tidak harus dipindahkan ke paspor baru, so ya
>>>> selalu
>>>> >> > ada
>>>> >> > >>di paspor lama... (teori lho ya ini :-))
>>>> >> > >>
>>>> >> > >>--
>>>> >> > >>Perry Ismangil
>>>> >> > >>me.ismangil.com
>>>> >> > >>On 31 Jan 2013 15:32, "Kristanti TREPIN" <kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >> > >>
>>>> >> > >>> Iseng saja nih saya nanya,
>>>> >> > >>>
>>>> >> > >>> Kalo sudah punya passport merah/biru (apapun yang tdk hijau dan
>>>> >> > berlambang
>>>> >> > >>> garuda), waktu  passport di KBRI apakah petugas tidak cek atau
>>>> tanya
>>>> >> > >>> visa/permit to stay di UK? karena biasanya visa/permit to stay di
>>>> >> > >>> UK attached di passport?
>>>> >> > >>>
>>>> >> > >>> Terima kasih
>>>> >> > >>>
>>>> >> > >>> Salam,
>>>> >> > >>> Kristanti
>>>> >> > >>>
>>>> >> > >>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Eko Kurniawan <
>>>> >> ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>>>> >> > >>> >wrote:
>>>> >> > >>>
>>>> >> > >>> > mungkin perlu naturalisasi lagi jadi WNI :)
>>>> >> > >>> >
>>>> >> > >>> >
>>>> >> > >>> >
>>>> >> > >>> > >________________________________
>>>> >> > >>> > > From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>>>> >> > >>> > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>>>> >> > >>> > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:26 AM
>>>> >> > >>> >  >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in
>>>> the UK
>>>> >> > >>> > handbook published today
>>>> >> > >>> > >
>>>> >> > >>> > >Kalaupun terjadi, ada amnesti ngga ya untuk yang 'terlanjur'
>>>> punya
>>>> >> > dua
>>>> >> > >>> > paspor :)
>>>> >> > >>> > >
>>>> >> > >>> > >On 31 January 2013 09:52, Bagus Prakoso <***@gmail.com>
>>>> >> > wrote:
>>>> >> > >>> > >> I don't think it's gonna happen very soon.  It would be a
>>>> >> miracle.
>>>> >> > >>> > IMHO.
>>>> >> > >>> > >>
>>>> >> > >>> > >> Chris
>>>> >> > >>> > >>
>>>> >> > >>> > >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM, <kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
>>>> >> wrote:
>>>> >> > >>> > >>
>>>> >> > >>> > >>> Perkembangan wacana dual nationalities masuk di UU
>>>> >> > Kewarganegaraan
>>>> >> > >>> apa
>>>> >> > >>> > >>> kabarnya ya?
>>>> >> > >>> > >>>
>>>> >> > >>> > >>>
>>>> >> > >>> > >>>
>>>> >> > >>> > >>> ------------------
>>>> >> > >>> > >>>
>>>> >> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> >> > >>> > >>> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>>>> >> > >>> > >>> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:48:42
>>>> >> > >>> > >>> To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
>>>> >> > >>> > >>> Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <
>>>> >> > uk-***@public.gmane.org>
>>>> >> > >>> > >>> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in
>>>> the
>>>> >> UK
>>>> >> > >>> > handbook
>>>> >> > >>> > >>>  published today
>>>> >> > >>> > >>>
>>>> >> > >>> > >>> 2013/1/31 Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>:
>>>> >> > >>> > >>> >
>>>> >> > >>> > >>> > Kalau citizenship barangakali masih perlu di timbang
>>>> karena
>>>> >> > samapi
>>>> >> > >>> > saaat
>>>> >> > >>> > >>> ini RI tidak mengakui dual citizenhip untuk orang dewasa
>>>> >> > >>> > >>> >
>>>> >> > >>> > >>>
>>>> >> > >>> > >>> Ya dengan sanksi berat sekali yaitu cabut WNI :P
>>>> >> > >>> > >>>
>>>> >> > >>> > >>>
>>>> >> > >>> > >>> --
>>>> >> > >>> > >>> Perry Ismangil
>>>> >> > >>> > >>>
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Setuju, hukum bukan untuk kucing2an, melainkan untuk kesejahteraan bersama.

Untuk saat ini, pembuat hukum di RI masih percaya kita akan lebih sejahtera
dengan single citizenship vs dual citizenship. Seperti juga banyak negara
lain di dunia.

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On 1 Feb 2013 10:09, "Andreas" <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org> wrote:

Saya kira hukum bukan untuk kucing kucingan...






>________________________________
> From: Kristanti TREPIN <kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org>
>To: Adi <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
>Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 17:10
>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK handbook
published today
>
>Yayy.. Jadi kalo begitu, bisa main kucing2an punya 2 passport ya ?
>hehehe..asal gak ditanya macam2 di KBRI waktu perpanjang passport?
>Visa saya (EEA2) bentuknya kertas A4 dan dibagi 4 section dan terpisah dr
>passport, cuma saya stick pakai paper clip karena menurut UKBA tdk boleh
>dilaminating.
>
>Salam,
>Kristanti
>2013/1/31 Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>
>> Nah berarti sudah lepas dari paspor malah!
>>
>> --
>> Perry Ismangil
>> me.ismangil.com
>> On 31 Jan 2013 17:01, "Eko Kurniawan" <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>
>> > kalo sekarang ILR dapetnya BRP card
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > >________________________________
>> > > From: Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
>> > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>> > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:32 PM
>> > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
>> > handbook published today
>> > >
>> > >UKBA tidak menganjurkan stiker ILR di pindahkan ke passport baru..
>> > >
>> > >Lagi pula harus bayar untuk hal yang tidak perlu dan tidak dianjurkan.
>> > >
>> > >Jadi seperti kata pak Perry, tidak perlu Minta stiker baru untuk
>> > dipindahkan ke Passport ynag baru.
>> > >
>> > >Jadi teorinya IILR nya nempel di passport ynag lama sekalipun passport
>> > sudah diganti 3 atau 4 kali, ILR nya tetap saja berlaku di passport
ynag
>> > lama. Ini hanya teori saja lho ya
>> > >
>> > >Barangkali rekan rekan yang lain ingin menambahkan. terutama apakah
>> > perlunay memindahkan stikernya ke passport
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >>________________________________
>> > >> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>> > >>To: Adi <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
>> > >>Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 15:36
>> > >>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
>> > handbook published today
>> > >>
>> > >>Ya stiker UKBA kan tidak harus dipindahkan ke paspor baru, so ya
selalu
>> > ada
>> > >>di paspor lama... (teori lho ya ini :-))
>> > >>
>> > >>--
>> > >>Perry Ismangil
>> > >>me.ismangil.com
>> > >>On 31 Jan 2013 15:32, "Kristanti TREPIN" <kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> Iseng saja nih saya nanya,
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Kalo sudah punya passport merah/biru (apapun yang tdk hijau dan
>> > berlambang
>> > >>> garuda), waktu passport di KBRI apakah petugas tidak cek atau
tanya
>> > >>> visa/permit to stay di UK? karena biasanya visa/permit to stay di
>> > >>> UK attached di passport?
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Terima kasih
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Salam,
>> > >>> Kristanti
>> > >>>
>> > >>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Eko Kurniawan <
>> ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>> > >>> >wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>> > mungkin perlu naturalisasi lagi jadi WNI :)
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > >________________________________
>> > >>> > > From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>> > >>> > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>> > >>> > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:26 AM
>> > >>> > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the
UK
>> > >>> > handbook published today
>> > >>> > >
>> > >>> > >Kalaupun terjadi, ada amnesti ngga ya untuk yang 'terlanjur'
punya
>> > dua
>> > >>> > paspor :)
>> > >>> > >
>> > >>> > >On 31 January 2013 09:52, Bagus Prakoso <brajamusti-***@public.gmane.org>
>> > wrote:
>> > >>> > >> I don't think it's gonna happen very soon. It would be a
>> miracle.
>> > >>> > IMHO.
>> > >>> > >>
>> > >>> > >> Chris
>> > >>> > >>
>> > >>> > >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM, <kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
>> wrote:
>> > >>> > >>
>> > >>> > >>> Perkembangan wacana dual nationalities masuk di UU
>> > Kewarganegaraan
>> > >>> apa
>> > >>> > >>> kabarnya ya?
>> > >>> > >>>
>> > >>> > >>>
>> > >>> > >>>
>> > >>> > >>> ------------------
>> > >>> > >>>
>> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message-----
>> > >>> > >>> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>> > >>> > >>> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:48:42
>> > >>> > >>> To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
>> > >>> > >>> Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <
>> > uk-***@public.gmane.org>
>> > >>> > >>> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in
the
>> UK
>> > >>> > handbook
>> > >>> > >>> published today
>> > >>> > >>>
>> > >>> > >>> 2013/1/31 Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>:
>> > >>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > >>> > Kalau citizenship barangakali masih perlu di timbang karena
>> > samapi
>> > >>> > saaat
>> > >>> > >>> ini RI tidak mengakui dual citizenhip untuk orang dewasa
>> > >>> > >>> >
>> > >>> > >>>
>> > >>> > >>> Ya dengan sanksi berat sekali yaitu cabut WNI :P
>> > >>> > >>>
>> > >>> > >>>
>> > >>> > >>> --
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Makasih atas jawabannya... dan informasi nya
Memang agak menjengkelkan dan biaya lagi utk ngurus schengen ini, mengerti
dan ikut ikut prihatin buat teman2 yang dari Utara karena harus ke London
ngurusnya.

Kita doain mudah2an pemerintah RI bisa kasih solusi dan
mengundang-undangkannya....


2013/2/1 Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>

> Setuju, hukum bukan untuk kucing2an, melainkan untuk kesejahteraan bersama.
>
> Untuk saat ini, pembuat hukum di RI masih percaya kita akan lebih sejahtera
> dengan single citizenship vs dual citizenship. Seperti juga banyak negara
> lain di dunia.
>
> --
> Perry Ismangil
> me.ismangil.com
> On 1 Feb 2013 10:09, "Andreas" <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> Saya kira hukum bukan untuk kucing kucingan...
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >________________________________
> > From: Kristanti TREPIN <kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org>
> >To: Adi <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
> >Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 17:10
> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK handbook
> published today
> >
> >Yayy.. Jadi kalo begitu, bisa main kucing2an punya 2 passport ya ?
> >hehehe..asal gak ditanya macam2 di KBRI waktu perpanjang passport?
> >Visa saya (EEA2) bentuknya kertas A4 dan dibagi 4 section dan terpisah dr
> >passport, cuma saya stick pakai paper clip karena menurut UKBA tdk boleh
> >dilaminating.
> >
> >Salam,
> >Kristanti
> >2013/1/31 Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> >
> >> Nah berarti sudah lepas dari paspor malah!
> >>
> >> --
> >> Perry Ismangil
> >> me.ismangil.com
> >> On 31 Jan 2013 17:01, "Eko Kurniawan" <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> > kalo sekarang ILR dapetnya BRP card
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > >________________________________
> >> > > From: Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> >> > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:32 PM
> >> > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> >> > handbook published today
> >> > >
> >> > >UKBA tidak menganjurkan stiker ILR di pindahkan ke passport baru..
> >> > >
> >> > >Lagi pula harus bayar untuk hal yang tidak perlu dan tidak
> dianjurkan.
> >> > >
> >> > >Jadi seperti kata pak Perry, tidak perlu Minta stiker baru untuk
> >> > dipindahkan ke Passport ynag baru.
> >> > >
> >> > >Jadi teorinya IILR nya nempel di passport ynag lama sekalipun
> passport
> >> > sudah diganti 3 atau 4 kali, ILR nya tetap saja berlaku di passport
> ynag
> >> > lama. Ini hanya teori saja lho ya
> >> > >
> >> > >Barangkali rekan rekan yang lain ingin menambahkan. terutama apakah
> >> > perlunay memindahkan stikernya ke passport
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >>________________________________
> >> > >> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> > >>To: Adi <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> > >>Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 15:36
> >> > >>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> >> > handbook published today
> >> > >>
> >> > >>Ya stiker UKBA kan tidak harus dipindahkan ke paspor baru, so ya
> selalu
> >> > ada
> >> > >>di paspor lama... (teori lho ya ini :-))
> >> > >>
> >> > >>--
> >> > >>Perry Ismangil
> >> > >>me.ismangil.com
> >> > >>On 31 Jan 2013 15:32, "Kristanti TREPIN" <kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org>
> wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >>> Iseng saja nih saya nanya,
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Kalo sudah punya passport merah/biru (apapun yang tdk hijau dan
> >> > berlambang
> >> > >>> garuda), waktu passport di KBRI apakah petugas tidak cek atau
> tanya
> >> > >>> visa/permit to stay di UK? karena biasanya visa/permit to stay di
> >> > >>> UK attached di passport?
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Terima kasih
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> Salam,
> >> > >>> Kristanti
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Eko Kurniawan <
> >> ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> >> > >>> >wrote:
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> > mungkin perlu naturalisasi lagi jadi WNI :)
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > >________________________________
> >> > >>> > > From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> > >>> > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> >> > >>> > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:26 AM
> >> > >>> > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the
> UK
> >> > >>> > handbook published today
> >> > >>> > >
> >> > >>> > >Kalaupun terjadi, ada amnesti ngga ya untuk yang 'terlanjur'
> punya
> >> > dua
> >> > >>> > paspor :)
> >> > >>> > >
> >> > >>> > >On 31 January 2013 09:52, Bagus Prakoso <brajamusti-***@public.gmane.org>
> >> > wrote:
> >> > >>> > >> I don't think it's gonna happen very soon. It would be a
> >> miracle.
> >> > >>> > IMHO.
> >> > >>> > >>
> >> > >>> > >> Chris
> >> > >>> > >>
> >> > >>> > >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM, <kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
> >> wrote:
> >> > >>> > >>
> >> > >>> > >>> Perkembangan wacana dual nationalities masuk di UU
> >> > Kewarganegaraan
> >> > >>> apa
> >> > >>> > >>> kabarnya ya?
> >> > >>> > >>>
> >> > >>> > >>>
> >> > >>> > >>>
> >> > >>> > >>> ------------------
> >> > >>> > >>>
> >> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> >> > >>> > >>> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> > >>> > >>> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:48:42
> >> > >>> > >>> To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
> >> > >>> > >>> Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <
> >> > uk-***@public.gmane.org>
> >> > >>> > >>> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in
> the
> >> UK
> >> > >>> > handbook
> >> > >>> > >>> published today
> >> > >>> > >>>
> >> > >>> > >>> 2013/1/31 Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>:
> >> > >>> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > >>> > Kalau citizenship barangakali masih perlu di timbang
> karena
> >> > samapi
> >> > >>> > saaat
> >> > >>> > >>> ini RI tidak mengakui dual citizenhip untuk orang dewasa
> >> > >>> > >>> >
> >> > >>> > >>>
> >> > >>> > >>> Ya dengan sanksi berat sekali yaitu cabut WNI :P
> >> > >>> > >>>
> >> > >>> > >>>
> >> > >>> > >>> --
> >> > >>> > >>> Perry Ismangil
> >> > >>> > >>>
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Mas Eko, maksudnya apa BRP Card itu?
Thanks


2013/1/31 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>

> kalo sekarang ILR dapetnya BRP card
>
>
>
> >________________________________
> > From: Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
> >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:32 PM
> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> handbook published today
> >
> >UKBA tidak menganjurkan stiker ILR di pindahkan ke passport baru..
> >
> >Lagi pula harus bayar untuk hal yang tidak perlu dan tidak dianjurkan.
> >
> >Jadi seperti kata pak Perry, tidak perlu Minta stiker baru untuk
> dipindahkan ke Passport ynag baru.
> >
> >Jadi teorinya IILR nya nempel di passport ynag lama sekalipun passport
> sudah diganti 3 atau 4 kali, ILR nya tetap saja berlaku di passport ynag
> lama. Ini hanya teori saja lho ya
> >
> >Barangkali rekan rekan yang lain ingin menambahkan. terutama apakah
> perlunay memindahkan stikernya ke passport
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>________________________________
> >> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> >>To: Adi <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
> >>Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 15:36
> >>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> handbook published today
> >>
> >>Ya stiker UKBA kan tidak harus dipindahkan ke paspor baru, so ya selalu
> ada
> >>di paspor lama... (teori lho ya ini :-))
> >>
> >>--
> >>Perry Ismangil
> >>me.ismangil.com
> >>On 31 Jan 2013 15:32, "Kristanti TREPIN" <kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Iseng saja nih saya nanya,
> >>>
> >>> Kalo sudah punya passport merah/biru (apapun yang tdk hijau dan
> berlambang
> >>> garuda), waktu passport di KBRI apakah petugas tidak cek atau tanya
> >>> visa/permit to stay di UK? karena biasanya visa/permit to stay di
> >>> UK attached di passport?
> >>>
> >>> Terima kasih
> >>>
> >>> Salam,
> >>> Kristanti
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> >>> >wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > mungkin perlu naturalisasi lagi jadi WNI :)
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > >________________________________
> >>> > > From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> >>> > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> >>> > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:26 AM
> >>> > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> >>> > handbook published today
> >>> > >
> >>> > >Kalaupun terjadi, ada amnesti ngga ya untuk yang 'terlanjur' punya
> dua
> >>> > paspor :)
> >>> > >
> >>> > >On 31 January 2013 09:52, Bagus Prakoso <brajamusti-***@public.gmane.org>
> wrote:
> >>> > >> I don't think it's gonna happen very soon. It would be a miracle.
> >>> > IMHO.
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Chris
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM, <kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>> Perkembangan wacana dual nationalities masuk di UU
> Kewarganegaraan
> >>> apa
> >>> > >>> kabarnya ya?
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> ------------------
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> > >>> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> >>> > >>> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:48:42
> >>> > >>> To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
> >>> > >>> Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <
> uk-***@public.gmane.org>
> >>> > >>> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> >>> > handbook
> >>> > >>> published today
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> 2013/1/31 Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>:
> >>> > >>> >
> >>> > >>> > Kalau citizenship barangakali masih perlu di timbang karena
> samapi
> >>> > saaat
> >>> > >>> ini RI tidak mengakui dual citizenhip untuk orang dewasa
> >>> > >>> >
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> Ya dengan sanksi berat sekali yaitu cabut WNI :P
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> --
> >>> > >>> Perry Ismangil
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[Eddy Manurung]

FYI.
Waktu liburan tahun baru kemarin, aku serius nanya dan mau ngurus surat
KTLN (mohon klarifikasi singkatan ku itu).
Menurut petugas immigrasi itu tidak perlu buat kita yang kerja di luar
negeri yang "mandiri"... artinya independent atau cari sendiri...
Jadi aku simpulkan surat itu hanya perlu utk yang lewat agent dari
Indonesia.

Problem solved...


2013/2/1 Eddy Manurung <eddy.manurung-***@public.gmane.org>

> Mas Eko, maksudnya apa BRP Card itu?
> Thanks
>
>
> 2013/1/31 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
>
>> kalo sekarang ILR dapetnya BRP card
>>
>>
>>
>> >________________________________
>> > From: Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
>> >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>> >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:32 PM
>> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
>> handbook published today
>> >
>> >UKBA tidak menganjurkan stiker ILR di pindahkan ke passport baru..
>> >
>> >Lagi pula harus bayar untuk hal yang tidak perlu dan tidak dianjurkan.
>> >
>> >Jadi seperti kata pak Perry, tidak perlu Minta stiker baru untuk
>> dipindahkan ke Passport ynag baru.
>> >
>> >Jadi teorinya IILR nya nempel di passport ynag lama sekalipun passport
>> sudah diganti 3 atau 4 kali, ILR nya tetap saja berlaku di passport ynag
>> lama. Ini hanya teori saja lho ya
>> >
>> >Barangkali rekan rekan yang lain ingin menambahkan. terutama apakah
>> perlunay memindahkan stikernya ke passport
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>________________________________
>> >> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>> >>To: Adi <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
>> >>Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 15:36
>> >>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
>> handbook published today
>> >>
>> >>Ya stiker UKBA kan tidak harus dipindahkan ke paspor baru, so ya selalu
>> ada
>> >>di paspor lama... (teori lho ya ini :-))
>> >>
>> >>--
>> >>Perry Ismangil
>> >>me.ismangil.com
>> >>On 31 Jan 2013 15:32, "Kristanti TREPIN" <kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Iseng saja nih saya nanya,
>> >>>
>> >>> Kalo sudah punya passport merah/biru (apapun yang tdk hijau dan
>> berlambang
>> >>> garuda), waktu passport di KBRI apakah petugas tidak cek atau tanya
>> >>> visa/permit to stay di UK? karena biasanya visa/permit to stay di
>> >>> UK attached di passport?
>> >>>
>> >>> Terima kasih
>> >>>
>> >>> Salam,
>> >>> Kristanti
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Eko Kurniawan <
>> ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>> >>> >wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> > mungkin perlu naturalisasi lagi jadi WNI :)
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > >________________________________
>> >>> > > From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>> >>> > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>> >>> > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:26 AM
>> >>> > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
>> >>> > handbook published today
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > >Kalaupun terjadi, ada amnesti ngga ya untuk yang 'terlanjur' punya
>> dua
>> >>> > paspor :)
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > >On 31 January 2013 09:52, Bagus Prakoso <brajamusti-***@public.gmane.org>
>> wrote:
>> >>> > >> I don't think it's gonna happen very soon. It would be a
>> miracle.
>> >>> > IMHO.
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> Chris
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM, <kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >>> Perkembangan wacana dual nationalities masuk di UU
>> Kewarganegaraan
>> >>> apa
>> >>> > >>> kabarnya ya?
>> >>> > >>>
>> >>> > >>>
>> >>> > >>>
>> >>> > >>> ------------------
>> >>> > >>>
>> >>> > >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> > >>> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>> >>> > >>> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:48:42
>> >>> > >>> To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
>> >>> > >>> Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <
>> uk-***@public.gmane.org>
>> >>> > >>> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the
>> UK
>> >>> > handbook
>> >>> > >>> published today
>> >>> > >>>
>> >>> > >>> 2013/1/31 Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>:
>> >>> > >>> >
>> >>> > >>> > Kalau citizenship barangakali masih perlu di timbang karena
>> samapi
>> >>> > saaat
>> >>> > >>> ini RI tidak mengakui dual citizenhip untuk orang dewasa
>> >>> > >>> >
>> >>> > >>>
>> >>> > >>> Ya dengan sanksi berat sekali yaitu cabut WNI :P
>> >>> > >>>
>> >>> > >>>
>> >>> > >>> --
>> >>> > >>> Perry Ismangil
>> >>> > >>>
>> _________________________________________________________________
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[Eko Kurniawan]

Biometric Residence Permit - semacam ID card.





>________________________________
> From: Eddy Manurung <eddy.manurung-***@public.gmane.org>
>To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 3:13 AM
>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK handbook published today
>
>Mas Eko, maksudnya apa BRP Card itu?
>Thanks
>
>
>2013/1/31 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
>
>> kalo sekarang ILR dapetnya BRP card
>>
>>
>>
>> >________________________________
>> > From: Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
>> >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>> >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:32 PM
>> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
>> handbook published today
>> >
>> >UKBA tidak menganjurkan  stiker ILR di pindahkan ke passport baru..
>> >
>> >Lagi pula harus bayar untuk hal yang tidak perlu dan tidak dianjurkan.
>> >
>> >Jadi seperti kata pak Perry,  tidak perlu Minta stiker baru untuk
>> dipindahkan ke Passport ynag baru.
>> >
>> >Jadi teorinya IILR nya nempel di passport ynag lama sekalipun passport
>> sudah diganti 3 atau 4 kali, ILR  nya tetap saja berlaku di passport ynag
>> lama.  Ini hanya teori saja lho ya
>> >
>> >Barangkali rekan rekan yang lain ingin menambahkan. terutama apakah
>> perlunay memindahkan stikernya ke passport
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>________________________________
>> >> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>> >>To: Adi <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
>> >>Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 15:36
>> >>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
>> handbook published today
>> >>
>> >>Ya stiker UKBA kan tidak harus dipindahkan ke paspor baru, so ya selalu
>> ada
>> >>di paspor lama... (teori lho ya ini :-))
>> >>
>> >>--
>> >>Perry Ismangil
>> >>me.ismangil.com
>> >>On 31 Jan 2013 15:32, "Kristanti TREPIN" <kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Iseng saja nih saya nanya,
>> >>>
>> >>> Kalo sudah punya passport merah/biru (apapun yang tdk hijau dan
>> berlambang
>> >>> garuda), waktu  passport di KBRI apakah petugas tidak cek atau tanya
>> >>> visa/permit to stay di UK? karena biasanya visa/permit to stay di
>> >>> UK attached di passport?
>> >>>
>> >>> Terima kasih
>> >>>
>> >>> Salam,
>> >>> Kristanti
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Eko Kurniawan <***@yahoo.com
>> >>> >wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> > mungkin perlu naturalisasi lagi jadi WNI :)
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > >________________________________
>> >>> > > From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>> >>> > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>> >>> > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:26 AM
>> >>> >  >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
>> >>> > handbook published today
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > >Kalaupun terjadi, ada amnesti ngga ya untuk yang 'terlanjur' punya
>> dua
>> >>> > paspor :)
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > >On 31 January 2013 09:52, Bagus Prakoso <brajamusti-***@public.gmane.org>
>> wrote:
>> >>> > >> I don't think it's gonna happen very soon.  It would be a miracle.
>> >>> > IMHO.
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> Chris
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM, <kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> >>> > >>
>> >>> > >>> Perkembangan wacana dual nationalities masuk di UU
>> Kewarganegaraan
>> >>> apa
>> >>> > >>> kabarnya ya?
>> >>> > >>>
>> >>> > >>>
>> >>> > >>>
>> >>> > >>> ------------------
>> >>> > >>>
>> >>> > >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> > >>> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>> >>> > >>> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:48:42
>> >>> > >>> To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
>> >>> > >>> Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <
>> uk-***@public.gmane.org>
>> >>> > >>> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
>> >>> > handbook
>> >>> > >>>  published today
>> >>> > >>>
>> >>> > >>> 2013/1/31 Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>:
>> >>> > >>> >
>> >>> > >>> > Kalau citizenship barangakali masih perlu di timbang karena
>> samapi
>> >>> > saaat
>> >>> > >>> ini RI tidak mengakui dual citizenhip untuk orang dewasa
>> >>> > >>> >
>> >>> > >>>
>> >>> > >>> Ya dengan sanksi berat sekali yaitu cabut WNI :P
>> >>> > >>>
>> >>> > >>>
>> >>> > >>> --
>> >>> > >>> Perry Ismangil
>> >>> > >>> _________________________________________________________________
>> >>> > >>> To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit:
>> >>> > >>>
>> >>> http://lists.indoexpat.org/mailman/options/uk/kuntoaribowo%40gmail.com
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>> >>> > >
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > >--
>> >>> > >Perry Ismangil
>> >>> > >_________________________________________________________________
>> >>> > >To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit:
>> >>> > >
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Makasih Mas Eko.
Gimana utk mndapatkan BRP card itu?
Tanks.


2013/2/1 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>

> Biometric Residence Permit - semacam ID card.
>
>
>
>
>
> >________________________________
> > From: Eddy Manurung <eddy.manurung-***@public.gmane.org>
> >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> >Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 3:13 AM
> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> handbook published today
> >
> >Mas Eko, maksudnya apa BRP Card itu?
> >Thanks
> >
> >
> >2013/1/31 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
> >
> >> kalo sekarang ILR dapetnya BRP card
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >________________________________
> >> > From: Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> >> >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:32 PM
> >> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> >> handbook published today
> >> >
> >> >UKBA tidak menganjurkan stiker ILR di pindahkan ke passport baru..
> >> >
> >> >Lagi pula harus bayar untuk hal yang tidak perlu dan tidak dianjurkan.
> >> >
> >> >Jadi seperti kata pak Perry, tidak perlu Minta stiker baru untuk
> >> dipindahkan ke Passport ynag baru.
> >> >
> >> >Jadi teorinya IILR nya nempel di passport ynag lama sekalipun passport
> >> sudah diganti 3 atau 4 kali, ILR nya tetap saja berlaku di passport
> ynag
> >> lama. Ini hanya teori saja lho ya
> >> >
> >> >Barangkali rekan rekan yang lain ingin menambahkan. terutama apakah
> >> perlunay memindahkan stikernya ke passport
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>________________________________
> >> >> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >>To: Adi <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >>Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 15:36
> >> >>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> >> handbook published today
> >> >>
> >> >>Ya stiker UKBA kan tidak harus dipindahkan ke paspor baru, so ya
> selalu
> >> ada
> >> >>di paspor lama... (teori lho ya ini :-))
> >> >>
> >> >>--
> >> >>Perry Ismangil
> >> >>me.ismangil.com
> >> >>On 31 Jan 2013 15:32, "Kristanti TREPIN" <kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>> Iseng saja nih saya nanya,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Kalo sudah punya passport merah/biru (apapun yang tdk hijau dan
> >> berlambang
> >> >>> garuda), waktu passport di KBRI apakah petugas tidak cek atau tanya
> >> >>> visa/permit to stay di UK? karena biasanya visa/permit to stay di
> >> >>> UK attached di passport?
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Terima kasih
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Salam,
> >> >>> Kristanti
> >> >>>
> >> >>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Eko Kurniawan <
> ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> >> >>> >wrote:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> > mungkin perlu naturalisasi lagi jadi WNI :)
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > >________________________________
> >> >>> > > From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >>> > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> >> >>> > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:26 AM
> >> >>> > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the
> UK
> >> >>> > handbook published today
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > >Kalaupun terjadi, ada amnesti ngga ya untuk yang 'terlanjur'
> punya
> >> dua
> >> >>> > paspor :)
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > >On 31 January 2013 09:52, Bagus Prakoso <brajamusti-***@public.gmane.org>
> >> wrote:
> >> >>> > >> I don't think it's gonna happen very soon. It would be a
> miracle.
> >> >>> > IMHO.
> >> >>> > >>
> >> >>> > >> Chris
> >> >>> > >>
> >> >>> > >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM, <kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
> wrote:
> >> >>> > >>
> >> >>> > >>> Perkembangan wacana dual nationalities masuk di UU
> >> Kewarganegaraan
> >> >>> apa
> >> >>> > >>> kabarnya ya?
> >> >>> > >>>
> >> >>> > >>>
> >> >>> > >>>
> >> >>> > >>> ------------------
> >> >>> > >>>
> >> >>> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> >> >>> > >>> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >>> > >>> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:48:42
> >> >>> > >>> To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >>> > >>> Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <
> >> uk-***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >>> > >>> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in
> the UK
> >> >>> > handbook
> >> >>> > >>> published today
> >> >>> > >>>
> >> >>> > >>> 2013/1/31 Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>:
> >> >>> > >>> >
> >> >>> > >>> > Kalau citizenship barangakali masih perlu di timbang karena
> >> samapi
> >> >>> > saaat
> >> >>> > >>> ini RI tidak mengakui dual citizenhip untuk orang dewasa
> >> >>> > >>> >
> >> >>> > >>>
> >> >>> > >>> Ya dengan sanksi berat sekali yaitu cabut WNI :P
> >> >>> > >>>
> >> >>> > >>>
> >> >>> > >>> --
> >> >>> > >>> Perry Ismangil
> >> >>> > >>>
> _________________________________________________________________
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> visit:
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yang apply ILR sejak Feb 2012 sudah gak dapet stamp di pasport lagi, tapi dikasih kartu BRP.  Jadi sudah bagian dari proses aplikasi ILR itu sendiri.



>________________________________
> From: Eddy Manurung <eddy.manurung-***@public.gmane.org>
>To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 12:48 PM
>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK handbook published today
>
>Makasih Mas Eko.
>Gimana utk mndapatkan BRP card itu?
>Tanks.
>
>
>2013/2/1 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
>
>> Biometric Residence Permit - semacam ID card.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> >________________________________
>> > From: Eddy Manurung <eddy.manurung-***@public.gmane.org>
>> >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>> >Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 3:13 AM
>> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
>> handbook published today
>> >
>> >Mas Eko, maksudnya apa BRP Card itu?
>> >Thanks
>> >
>> >
>> >2013/1/31 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
>> >
>> >> kalo sekarang ILR dapetnya BRP card
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >________________________________
>> >> > From: Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
>> >> >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>> >> >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:32 PM
>> >> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
>> >> handbook published today
>> >> >
>> >> >UKBA tidak menganjurkan  stiker ILR di pindahkan ke passport baru..
>> >> >
>> >> >Lagi pula harus bayar untuk hal yang tidak perlu dan tidak dianjurkan.
>> >> >
>> >> >Jadi seperti kata pak Perry,  tidak perlu Minta stiker baru untuk
>> >> dipindahkan ke Passport ynag baru.
>> >> >
>> >> >Jadi teorinya IILR nya nempel di passport ynag lama sekalipun passport
>> >> sudah diganti 3 atau 4 kali, ILR  nya tetap saja berlaku di passport
>> ynag
>> >> lama.  Ini hanya teori saja lho ya
>> >> >
>> >> >Barangkali rekan rekan yang lain ingin menambahkan. terutama apakah
>> >> perlunay memindahkan stikernya ke passport
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >>________________________________
>> >> >> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>> >> >>To: Adi <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
>> >> >>Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 15:36
>> >> >>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
>> >> handbook published today
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Ya stiker UKBA kan tidak harus dipindahkan ke paspor baru, so ya
>> selalu
>> >> ada
>> >> >>di paspor lama... (teori lho ya ini :-))
>> >> >>
>> >> >>--
>> >> >>Perry Ismangil
>> >> >>me.ismangil.com
>> >> >>On 31 Jan 2013 15:32, "Kristanti TREPIN" <kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> Iseng saja nih saya nanya,
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Kalo sudah punya passport merah/biru (apapun yang tdk hijau dan
>> >> berlambang
>> >> >>> garuda), waktu  passport di KBRI apakah petugas tidak cek atau tanya
>> >> >>> visa/permit to stay di UK? karena biasanya visa/permit to stay di
>> >> >>> UK attached di passport?
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Terima kasih
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Salam,
>> >> >>> Kristanti
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Eko Kurniawan <
>> ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>> >> >>> >wrote:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> > mungkin perlu naturalisasi lagi jadi WNI :)
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> >
>> >> >>> > >________________________________
>> >> >>> > > From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>> >> >>> > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>> >> >>> > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:26 AM
>> >> >>> >  >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the
>> UK
>> >> >>> > handbook published today
>> >> >>> > >
>> >> >>> > >Kalaupun terjadi, ada amnesti ngga ya untuk yang 'terlanjur'
>> punya
>> >> dua
>> >> >>> > paspor :)
>> >> >>> > >
>> >> >>> > >On 31 January 2013 09:52, Bagus Prakoso <brajamusti-***@public.gmane.org>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >>> > >> I don't think it's gonna happen very soon.  It would be a
>> miracle.
>> >> >>> > IMHO.
>> >> >>> > >>
>> >> >>> > >> Chris
>> >> >>> > >>
>> >> >>> > >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM, <kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
>> wrote:
>> >> >>> > >>
>> >> >>> > >>> Perkembangan wacana dual nationalities masuk di UU
>> >> Kewarganegaraan
>> >> >>> apa
>> >> >>> > >>> kabarnya ya?
>> >> >>> > >>>
>> >> >>> > >>>
>> >> >>> > >>>
>> >> >>> > >>> ------------------
>> >> >>> > >>>
>> >> >>> > >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >>> > >>> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>> >> >>> > >>> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:48:42
>> >> >>> > >>> To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
>> >> >>> > >>> Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <
>> >> uk-***@public.gmane.org>
>> >> >>> > >>> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in
>> the UK
>> >> >>> > handbook
>> >> >>> > >>>  published today
>> >> >>> > >>>
>> >> >>> > >>> 2013/1/31 Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>:
>> >> >>> > >>> >
>> >> >>> > >>> > Kalau citizenship barangakali masih perlu di timbang karena
>> >> samapi
>> >> >>> > saaat
>> >> >>> > >>> ini RI tidak mengakui dual citizenhip untuk orang dewasa
>> >> >>> > >>> >
>> >> >>> > >>>
>> >> >>> > >>> Ya dengan sanksi berat sekali yaitu cabut WNI :P
>> >> >>> > >>>
>> >> >>> > >>>
>> >> >>> > >>> --
>> >> >>> > >>> Perry Ismangil
>> >> >>> > >>>
>> _________________________________________________________________
>> >> >>> > >>> To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please
>> visit:
>> >> >>> > >>>
>> >> >>>
>> http://lists.indoexpat.org/mailman/options/uk/kuntoaribowo%40gmail.com
>> >> >>> > >>>
>> >> >>> > >>>
>> _________________________________________________________________
>> >> >>> > >>> To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please
>> visit:
>> >> >>> > >>>
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>> >> >>> > >>>
>> >> >>> > >>
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>> >> >>> > >
>> >> >>> > >
>> >> >>> > >
>> >> >>> > >--
>> >> >>> > >Perry Ismangil
>> >> >>> > >_________________________________________________________________
>> >> >>> > >To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit:
>> >> >>> > >
>> >> http://lists.indoexpat.org/mailman/options/uk/ekokurniawan%40yahoo.com
>> >> >>> >  >
>> >> >>> > >
>> >> >>> > >
>> >> >>> > _________________________________________________________________
>> >> >>> > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit:
>> >> >>> >
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>> >> >>>
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>> >
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>> >Eddy Manurung
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[Kristanti TREPIN]

Bang Eddy, ILR lama bisa ditransfer ke BRP, tapi ada biayanya, dan kalau
tidak salah 220 GBP, keterangan lengkap ada di website UKBA ttg ini.

http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/visas-immigration/while-in-uk/transfer-visa-to-passport/

Salam,
Kristanti



2013/2/1 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>

> yang apply ILR sejak Feb 2012 sudah gak dapet stamp di pasport lagi, tapi
> dikasih kartu BRP. Jadi sudah bagian dari proses aplikasi ILR itu sendiri.
>
>
>
> >________________________________
> > From: Eddy Manurung <eddy.manurung-***@public.gmane.org>
> >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> >Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 12:48 PM
> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> handbook published today
> >
> >Makasih Mas Eko.
> >Gimana utk mndapatkan BRP card itu?
> >Tanks.
> >
> >
> >2013/2/1 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
> >
> >> Biometric Residence Permit - semacam ID card.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >________________________________
> >> > From: Eddy Manurung <eddy.manurung-***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> >> >Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 3:13 AM
> >> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> >> handbook published today
> >> >
> >> >Mas Eko, maksudnya apa BRP Card itu?
> >> >Thanks
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >2013/1/31 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >
> >> >> kalo sekarang ILR dapetnya BRP card
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> >________________________________
> >> >> > From: Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >> >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> >> >> >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:32 PM
> >> >> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> >> >> handbook published today
> >> >> >
> >> >> >UKBA tidak menganjurkan stiker ILR di pindahkan ke passport baru..
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Lagi pula harus bayar untuk hal yang tidak perlu dan tidak
> dianjurkan.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Jadi seperti kata pak Perry, tidak perlu Minta stiker baru untuk
> >> >> dipindahkan ke Passport ynag baru.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Jadi teorinya IILR nya nempel di passport ynag lama sekalipun
> passport
> >> >> sudah diganti 3 atau 4 kali, ILR nya tetap saja berlaku di passport
> >> ynag
> >> >> lama. Ini hanya teori saja lho ya
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Barangkali rekan rekan yang lain ingin menambahkan. terutama apakah
> >> >> perlunay memindahkan stikernya ke passport
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>________________________________
> >> >> >> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >> >>To: Adi <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >> >>Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 15:36
> >> >> >>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> >> >> handbook published today
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>Ya stiker UKBA kan tidak harus dipindahkan ke paspor baru, so ya
> >> selalu
> >> >> ada
> >> >> >>di paspor lama... (teori lho ya ini :-))
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>--
> >> >> >>Perry Ismangil
> >> >> >>me.ismangil.com
> >> >> >>On 31 Jan 2013 15:32, "Kristanti TREPIN" <kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org>
> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>> Iseng saja nih saya nanya,
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Kalo sudah punya passport merah/biru (apapun yang tdk hijau dan
> >> >> berlambang
> >> >> >>> garuda), waktu passport di KBRI apakah petugas tidak cek atau
> tanya
> >> >> >>> visa/permit to stay di UK? karena biasanya visa/permit to stay di
> >> >> >>> UK attached di passport?
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Terima kasih
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> Salam,
> >> >> >>> Kristanti
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Eko Kurniawan <
> >> ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> >> >> >>> >wrote:
> >> >> >>>
> >> >> >>> > mungkin perlu naturalisasi lagi jadi WNI :)
> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >>> >
> >> >> >>> > >________________________________
> >> >> >>> > > From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >> >>> > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> >> >> >>> > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:26 AM
> >> >> >>> > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in
> the
> >> UK
> >> >> >>> > handbook published today
> >> >> >>> > >
> >> >> >>> > >Kalaupun terjadi, ada amnesti ngga ya untuk yang 'terlanjur'
> >> punya
> >> >> dua
> >> >> >>> > paspor :)
> >> >> >>> > >
> >> >> >>> > >On 31 January 2013 09:52, Bagus Prakoso <brajamusti-***@public.gmane.org
> >
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >>> > >> I don't think it's gonna happen very soon. It would be a
> >> miracle.
> >> >> >>> > IMHO.
> >> >> >>> > >>
> >> >> >>> > >> Chris
> >> >> >>> > >>
> >> >> >>> > >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM, <kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
> >> wrote:
> >> >> >>> > >>
> >> >> >>> > >>> Perkembangan wacana dual nationalities masuk di UU
> >> >> Kewarganegaraan
> >> >> >>> apa
> >> >> >>> > >>> kabarnya ya?
> >> >> >>> > >>>
> >> >> >>> > >>>
> >> >> >>> > >>>
> >> >> >>> > >>> ------------------
> >> >> >>> > >>>
> >> >> >>> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> >>> > >>> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >> >>> > >>> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:48:42
> >> >> >>> > >>> To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >> >>> > >>> Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <
> >> >> uk-***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >> >>> > >>> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in
> >> the UK
> >> >> >>> > handbook
> >> >> >>> > >>> published today
> >> >> >>> > >>>
> >> >> >>> > >>> 2013/1/31 Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>:
> >> >> >>> > >>> >
> >> >> >>> > >>> > Kalau citizenship barangakali masih perlu di timbang
> karena
> >> >> samapi
> >> >> >>> > saaat
> >> >> >>> > >>> ini RI tidak mengakui dual citizenhip untuk orang dewasa
> >> >> >>> > >>> >
> >> >> >>> > >>>
> >> >> >>> > >>> Ya dengan sanksi berat sekali yaitu cabut WNI :P
> >> >> >>> > >>>
> >> >> >>> > >>>
> >> >> >>> > >>> --
> >> >> >>> > >>> Perry Ismangil
> >> >> >>> > >>>
> >> _________________________________________________________________
> >> >> >>> > >>> To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please
> >> visit:
> >> >> >>> > >>>
> >> >> >>>
> >> http://lists.indoexpat.org/mailman/options/uk/kuntoaribowo%40gmail.com
> >> >> >>> > >>>
> >> >> >>> > >>>
> >> _________________________________________________________________
> >> >> >>> > >>> To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please
> >> visit:
> >> >> >>> > >>>
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> >> >> >>> > >>>
> >> >> >>> > >>
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> >> >> >>> > >
> >> >> >>> > >
> >> >> >>> > >
> >> >> >>> > >--
> >> >> >>> > >Perry Ismangil
> >> >> >>> >
> >_________________________________________________________________
> >> >> >>> > >To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please
> visit:
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> >> >>
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> >> >> >>> > >
> >> >> >>> > >
> >> >> >>> > >
> >> >> >>> >
> _________________________________________________________________
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> visit:
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> >> >> >>> >
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> >> >> >>>
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> >> >> >>
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> >> >> >>
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> >> >> >
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> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
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> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >--
> >> >
> >> >Regards,
> >> >Eddy Manurung
> >> >_________________________________________________________________
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[Perry Ismangil]

Panduan Pak EMan berarti perlu diupdate: ganti stiker ILTR ke card dulu,
baru....

--
Perry Ismangil
me.ismangil.com
On 2 Feb 2013 04:21, "Kristanti TREPIN" <kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> Bang Eddy, ILR lama bisa ditransfer ke BRP, tapi ada biayanya, dan kalau
> tidak salah 220 GBP, keterangan lengkap ada di website UKBA ttg ini.
>
>
> http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/visas-immigration/while-in-uk/transfer-visa-to-passport/
>
> Salam,
> Kristanti
>
>
>
> 2013/2/1 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
>
> > yang apply ILR sejak Feb 2012 sudah gak dapet stamp di pasport lagi, tapi
> > dikasih kartu BRP. Jadi sudah bagian dari proses aplikasi ILR itu
> sendiri.
> >
> >
> >
> > >________________________________
> > > From: Eddy Manurung <eddy.manurung-***@public.gmane.org>
> > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> > >Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 12:48 PM
> > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> > handbook published today
> > >
> > >Makasih Mas Eko.
> > >Gimana utk mndapatkan BRP card itu?
> > >Tanks.
> > >
> > >
> > >2013/2/1 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
> > >
> > >> Biometric Residence Permit - semacam ID card.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> >________________________________
> > >> > From: Eddy Manurung <eddy.manurung-***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> > >> >Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 3:13 AM
> > >> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> > >> handbook published today
> > >> >
> > >> >Mas Eko, maksudnya apa BRP Card itu?
> > >> >Thanks
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >2013/1/31 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> >
> > >> >> kalo sekarang ILR dapetnya BRP card
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> >________________________________
> > >> >> > From: Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> >> >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> > >> >> >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:32 PM
> > >> >> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> > >> >> handbook published today
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >UKBA tidak menganjurkan stiker ILR di pindahkan ke passport
> baru..
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >Lagi pula harus bayar untuk hal yang tidak perlu dan tidak
> > dianjurkan.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >Jadi seperti kata pak Perry, tidak perlu Minta stiker baru untuk
> > >> >> dipindahkan ke Passport ynag baru.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >Jadi teorinya IILR nya nempel di passport ynag lama sekalipun
> > passport
> > >> >> sudah diganti 3 atau 4 kali, ILR nya tetap saja berlaku di
> passport
> > >> ynag
> > >> >> lama. Ini hanya teori saja lho ya
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >Barangkali rekan rekan yang lain ingin menambahkan. terutama
> apakah
> > >> >> perlunay memindahkan stikernya ke passport
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >>________________________________
> > >> >> >> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> >> >>To: Adi <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> >> >>Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 15:36
> > >> >> >>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> > >> >> handbook published today
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >>Ya stiker UKBA kan tidak harus dipindahkan ke paspor baru, so ya
> > >> selalu
> > >> >> ada
> > >> >> >>di paspor lama... (teori lho ya ini :-))
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >>--
> > >> >> >>Perry Ismangil
> > >> >> >>me.ismangil.com
> > >> >> >>On 31 Jan 2013 15:32, "Kristanti TREPIN" <kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org>
> > wrote:
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >>> Iseng saja nih saya nanya,
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>> Kalo sudah punya passport merah/biru (apapun yang tdk hijau dan
> > >> >> berlambang
> > >> >> >>> garuda), waktu passport di KBRI apakah petugas tidak cek atau
> > tanya
> > >> >> >>> visa/permit to stay di UK? karena biasanya visa/permit to stay
> di
> > >> >> >>> UK attached di passport?
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>> Terima kasih
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>> Salam,
> > >> >> >>> Kristanti
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Eko Kurniawan <
> > >> ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> > >> >> >>> >wrote:
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>> > mungkin perlu naturalisasi lagi jadi WNI :)
> > >> >> >>> >
> > >> >> >>> >
> > >> >> >>> >
> > >> >> >>> > >________________________________
> > >> >> >>> > > From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> >> >>> > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> > >> >> >>> > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:26 AM
> > >> >> >>> > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in
> > the
> > >> UK
> > >> >> >>> > handbook published today
> > >> >> >>> > >
> > >> >> >>> > >Kalaupun terjadi, ada amnesti ngga ya untuk yang 'terlanjur'
> > >> punya
> > >> >> dua
> > >> >> >>> > paspor :)
> > >> >> >>> > >
> > >> >> >>> > >On 31 January 2013 09:52, Bagus Prakoso <
> brajamusti-***@public.gmane.org
> > >
> > >> >> wrote:
> > >> >> >>> > >> I don't think it's gonna happen very soon. It would be a
> > >> miracle.
> > >> >> >>> > IMHO.
> > >> >> >>> > >>
> > >> >> >>> > >> Chris
> > >> >> >>> > >>
> > >> >> >>> > >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM, <kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> >> >>> > >>
> > >> >> >>> > >>> Perkembangan wacana dual nationalities masuk di UU
> > >> >> Kewarganegaraan
> > >> >> >>> apa
> > >> >> >>> > >>> kabarnya ya?
> > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > >> >> >>> > >>> ------------------
> > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > >> >> >>> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >> >> >>> > >>> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> >> >>> > >>> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:48:42
> > >> >> >>> > >>> To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> >> >>> > >>> Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <
> > >> >> uk-***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> >> >>> > >>> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life
> in
> > >> the UK
> > >> >> >>> > handbook
> > >> >> >>> > >>> published today
> > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > >> >> >>> > >>> 2013/1/31 Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>:
> > >> >> >>> > >>> >
> > >> >> >>> > >>> > Kalau citizenship barangakali masih perlu di timbang
> > karena
> > >> >> samapi
> > >> >> >>> > saaat
> > >> >> >>> > >>> ini RI tidak mengakui dual citizenhip untuk orang dewasa
> > >> >> >>> > >>> >
> > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > >> >> >>> > >>> Ya dengan sanksi berat sekali yaitu cabut WNI :P
> > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > >> >> >>> > >>> --
> > >> >> >>> > >>> Perry Ismangil
> > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > >> _________________________________________________________________
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> > >> >> >>> > >--
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> > >> >> >>> >
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> > >> >--
> > >> >
> > >> >Regards,
> > >> >Eddy Manurung
> > >> >_________________________________________________________________
> > >> >To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit:
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> > >
> > >Regards,
> > >Eddy Manurung
> > >_________________________________________________________________
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[Andreas]

Informasi yang bagus.
Correct me if I was wrong .......

Buat warga negara asing US, AU, CD tentunya termasuk indonesia, yang sdh terlanjur pegang passpor Burgundy, good luck deh kalau bisa dapat, even you pay 10x of this ..







>________________________________
> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>To: Adi <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
>Sent: Saturday, 2 February 2013, 10:49
>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK handbook published today
>
>Panduan Pak EMan berarti perlu diupdate: ganti stiker ILTR ke card dulu,
>baru....
>
>--
>Perry Ismangil
>me.ismangil.com
>On 2 Feb 2013 04:21, "Kristanti TREPIN" <kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
>> Bang Eddy, ILR lama bisa ditransfer ke BRP, tapi ada biayanya, dan kalau
>> tidak salah 220 GBP, keterangan lengkap ada di website UKBA ttg ini.
>>
>>
>> http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/visas-immigration/while-in-uk/transfer-visa-to-passport/
>>
>> Salam,
>> Kristanti
>>
>>
>>
>> 2013/2/1 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
>>
>> > yang apply ILR sejak Feb 2012 sudah gak dapet stamp di pasport lagi, tapi
>> > dikasih kartu BRP.  Jadi sudah bagian dari proses aplikasi ILR itu
>> sendiri.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > >________________________________
>> > > From: Eddy Manurung <eddy.manurung-***@public.gmane.org>
>> > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>> > >Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 12:48 PM
>> > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
>> > handbook published today
>> > >
>> > >Makasih Mas Eko.
>> > >Gimana utk mndapatkan BRP card itu?
>> > >Tanks.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >2013/2/1 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
>> > >
>> > >> Biometric Residence Permit - semacam ID card.
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> >________________________________
>> > >> > From: Eddy Manurung <eddy.manurung-***@public.gmane.org>
>> > >> >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>> > >> >Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 3:13 AM
>> > >> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
>> > >> handbook published today
>> > >> >
>> > >> >Mas Eko, maksudnya apa BRP Card itu?
>> > >> >Thanks
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >2013/1/31 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
>> > >> >
>> > >> >> kalo sekarang ILR dapetnya BRP card
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> >________________________________
>> > >> >> > From: Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
>> > >> >> >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>> > >> >> >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:32 PM
>> > >> >> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
>> > >> >> handbook published today
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> >UKBA tidak menganjurkan  stiker ILR di pindahkan ke passport
>> baru..
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> >Lagi pula harus bayar untuk hal yang tidak perlu dan tidak
>> > dianjurkan.
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> >Jadi seperti kata pak Perry,  tidak perlu Minta stiker baru untuk
>> > >> >> dipindahkan ke Passport ynag baru.
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> >Jadi teorinya IILR nya nempel di passport ynag lama sekalipun
>> > passport
>> > >> >> sudah diganti 3 atau 4 kali, ILR  nya tetap saja berlaku di
>> passport
>> > >> ynag
>> > >> >> lama.  Ini hanya teori saja lho ya
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> >Barangkali rekan rekan yang lain ingin menambahkan. terutama
>> apakah
>> > >> >> perlunay memindahkan stikernya ke passport
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> >>________________________________
>> > >> >> >> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>> > >> >> >>To: Adi <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
>> > >> >> >>Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 15:36
>> > >> >> >>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
>> > >> >> handbook published today
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >>Ya stiker UKBA kan tidak harus dipindahkan ke paspor baru, so ya
>> > >> selalu
>> > >> >> ada
>> > >> >> >>di paspor lama... (teori lho ya ini :-))
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >>--
>> > >> >> >>Perry Ismangil
>> > >> >> >>me.ismangil.com
>> > >> >> >>On 31 Jan 2013 15:32, "Kristanti TREPIN" <kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org>
>> > wrote:
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >>> Iseng saja nih saya nanya,
>> > >> >> >>>
>> > >> >> >>> Kalo sudah punya passport merah/biru (apapun yang tdk hijau dan
>> > >> >> berlambang
>> > >> >> >>> garuda), waktu  passport di KBRI apakah petugas tidak cek atau
>> > tanya
>> > >> >> >>> visa/permit to stay di UK? karena biasanya visa/permit to stay
>> di
>> > >> >> >>> UK attached di passport?
>> > >> >> >>>
>> > >> >> >>> Terima kasih
>> > >> >> >>>
>> > >> >> >>> Salam,
>> > >> >> >>> Kristanti
>> > >> >> >>>
>> > >> >> >>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Eko Kurniawan <
>> > >> ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>> > >> >> >>> >wrote:
>> > >> >> >>>
>> > >> >> >>> > mungkin perlu naturalisasi lagi jadi WNI :)
>> > >> >> >>> >
>> > >> >> >>> >
>> > >> >> >>> >
>> > >> >> >>> > >________________________________
>> > >> >> >>> > > From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>> > >> >> >>> > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>> > >> >> >>> > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:26 AM
>> > >> >> >>> >  >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in
>> > the
>> > >> UK
>> > >> >> >>> > handbook published today
>> > >> >> >>> > >
>> > >> >> >>> > >Kalaupun terjadi, ada amnesti ngga ya untuk yang 'terlanjur'
>> > >> punya
>> > >> >> dua
>> > >> >> >>> > paspor :)
>> > >> >> >>> > >
>> > >> >> >>> > >On 31 January 2013 09:52, Bagus Prakoso <
>> brajamusti-***@public.gmane.org
>> > >
>> > >> >> wrote:
>> > >> >> >>> > >> I don't think it's gonna happen very soon.  It would be a
>> > >> miracle.
>> > >> >> >>> > IMHO.
>> > >> >> >>> > >>
>> > >> >> >>> > >> Chris
>> > >> >> >>> > >>
>> > >> >> >>> > >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM, <kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.orgm>
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >> >> >>> > >>
>> > >> >> >>> > >>> Perkembangan wacana dual nationalities masuk di UU
>> > >> >> Kewarganegaraan
>> > >> >> >>> apa
>> > >> >> >>> > >>> kabarnya ya?
>> > >> >> >>> > >>>
>> > >> >> >>> > >>>
>> > >> >> >>> > >>>
>> > >> >> >>> > >>> ------------------
>> > >> >> >>> > >>>
>> > >> >> >>> > >>> -----Original Message-----
>> > >> >> >>> > >>> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>> > >> >> >>> > >>> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:48:42
>> > >> >> >>> > >>> To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
>> > >> >> >>> > >>> Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <
>> > >> >> uk-***@public.gmane.org>
>> > >> >> >>> > >>> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life
>> in
>> > >> the UK
>> > >> >> >>> > handbook
>> > >> >> >>> > >>>  published today
>> > >> >> >>> > >>>
>> > >> >> >>> > >>> 2013/1/31 Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>:
>> > >> >> >>> > >>> >
>> > >> >> >>> > >>> > Kalau citizenship barangakali masih perlu di timbang
>> > karena
>> > >> >> samapi
>> > >> >> >>> > saaat
>> > >> >> >>> > >>> ini RI tidak mengakui dual citizenhip untuk orang dewasa
>> > >> >> >>> > >>> >
>> > >> >> >>> > >>>
>> > >> >> >>> > >>> Ya dengan sanksi berat sekali yaitu cabut WNI :P
>> > >> >> >>> > >>>
>> > >> >> >>> > >>>
>> > >> >> >>> > >>> --
>> > >> >> >>> > >>> Perry Ismangil
>> > >> >> >>> > >>>
>> > >> _________________________________________________________________
>> > >> >> >>> > >>> To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options,
>> please
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>> > >> >> >>> > >
>> > >> >> >>> > >--
>> > >> >> >>> > >Perry Ismangil
>> > >> >> >>> >
>> > >_________________________________________________________________
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>> > >> >> >>> > >
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>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >> >--
>> > >> >
>> > >> >Regards,
>> > >> >Eddy Manurung
>> > >> >_________________________________________________________________
>> > >> >To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit:
>> > >> >
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>> > >
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>> > >--
>> > >
>> > >Regards,
>> > >Eddy Manurung
>> > >_________________________________________________________________
>> > >To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit:
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>>
>>
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>> Warm regards,
>>
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[Agung Mandala]

CMIIW, kalo baca lagi kok BRP (and only BRP) itu kalo sebelumnya punya
limited leave to remain. tapi kalo punya ILTR, tetep hrs punya ILTR di
passport + BRP. Terus juga masih ada servis transfer ILTR ke passport baru,
kalo ILTR selalu bisa jadi BRP, apa gunanya transfer visa dong?

Salam,
Agung


2013/2/2 Kristanti TREPIN <kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org>

> Bang Eddy, ILR lama bisa ditransfer ke BRP, tapi ada biayanya, dan kalau
> tidak salah 220 GBP, keterangan lengkap ada di website UKBA ttg ini.
>
>
> http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/visas-immigration/while-in-uk/transfer-visa-to-passport/
>
> Salam,
> Kristanti
>
>
>
> 2013/2/1 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
>
> > yang apply ILR sejak Feb 2012 sudah gak dapet stamp di pasport lagi, tapi
> > dikasih kartu BRP. Jadi sudah bagian dari proses aplikasi ILR itu
> sendiri.
> >
> >
> >
> > >________________________________
> > > From: Eddy Manurung <eddy.manurung-***@public.gmane.org>
> > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> > >Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 12:48 PM
> > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> > handbook published today
> > >
> > >Makasih Mas Eko.
> > >Gimana utk mndapatkan BRP card itu?
> > >Tanks.
> > >
> > >
> > >2013/2/1 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
> > >
> > >> Biometric Residence Permit - semacam ID card.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> >________________________________
> > >> > From: Eddy Manurung <eddy.manurung-***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> > >> >Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 3:13 AM
> > >> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> > >> handbook published today
> > >> >
> > >> >Mas Eko, maksudnya apa BRP Card itu?
> > >> >Thanks
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >2013/1/31 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> >
> > >> >> kalo sekarang ILR dapetnya BRP card
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> >________________________________
> > >> >> > From: Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> >> >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> > >> >> >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:32 PM
> > >> >> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> > >> >> handbook published today
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >UKBA tidak menganjurkan stiker ILR di pindahkan ke passport
> baru..
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >Lagi pula harus bayar untuk hal yang tidak perlu dan tidak
> > dianjurkan.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >Jadi seperti kata pak Perry, tidak perlu Minta stiker baru untuk
> > >> >> dipindahkan ke Passport ynag baru.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >Jadi teorinya IILR nya nempel di passport ynag lama sekalipun
> > passport
> > >> >> sudah diganti 3 atau 4 kali, ILR nya tetap saja berlaku di
> passport
> > >> ynag
> > >> >> lama. Ini hanya teori saja lho ya
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >Barangkali rekan rekan yang lain ingin menambahkan. terutama
> apakah
> > >> >> perlunay memindahkan stikernya ke passport
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >>________________________________
> > >> >> >> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> >> >>To: Adi <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> >> >>Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 15:36
> > >> >> >>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> > >> >> handbook published today
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >>Ya stiker UKBA kan tidak harus dipindahkan ke paspor baru, so ya
> > >> selalu
> > >> >> ada
> > >> >> >>di paspor lama... (teori lho ya ini :-))
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >>--
> > >> >> >>Perry Ismangil
> > >> >> >>me.ismangil.com
> > >> >> >>On 31 Jan 2013 15:32, "Kristanti TREPIN" <kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org>
> > wrote:
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >>> Iseng saja nih saya nanya,
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>> Kalo sudah punya passport merah/biru (apapun yang tdk hijau dan
> > >> >> berlambang
> > >> >> >>> garuda), waktu passport di KBRI apakah petugas tidak cek atau
> > tanya
> > >> >> >>> visa/permit to stay di UK? karena biasanya visa/permit to stay
> di
> > >> >> >>> UK attached di passport?
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>> Terima kasih
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>> Salam,
> > >> >> >>> Kristanti
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Eko Kurniawan <
> > >> ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> > >> >> >>> >wrote:
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>> > mungkin perlu naturalisasi lagi jadi WNI :)
> > >> >> >>> >
> > >> >> >>> >
> > >> >> >>> >
> > >> >> >>> > >________________________________
> > >> >> >>> > > From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> >> >>> > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> > >> >> >>> > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:26 AM
> > >> >> >>> > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in
> > the
> > >> UK
> > >> >> >>> > handbook published today
> > >> >> >>> > >
> > >> >> >>> > >Kalaupun terjadi, ada amnesti ngga ya untuk yang 'terlanjur'
> > >> punya
> > >> >> dua
> > >> >> >>> > paspor :)
> > >> >> >>> > >
> > >> >> >>> > >On 31 January 2013 09:52, Bagus Prakoso <
> brajamusti-***@public.gmane.org
> > >
> > >> >> wrote:
> > >> >> >>> > >> I don't think it's gonna happen very soon. It would be a
> > >> miracle.
> > >> >> >>> > IMHO.
> > >> >> >>> > >>
> > >> >> >>> > >> Chris
> > >> >> >>> > >>
> > >> >> >>> > >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM, <kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> >> >>> > >>
> > >> >> >>> > >>> Perkembangan wacana dual nationalities masuk di UU
> > >> >> Kewarganegaraan
> > >> >> >>> apa
> > >> >> >>> > >>> kabarnya ya?
> > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > >> >> >>> > >>> ------------------
> > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > >> >> >>> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >> >> >>> > >>> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> >> >>> > >>> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:48:42
> > >> >> >>> > >>> To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> >> >>> > >>> Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <
> > >> >> uk-***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> >> >>> > >>> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life
> in
> > >> the UK
> > >> >> >>> > handbook
> > >> >> >>> > >>> published today
> > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > >> >> >>> > >>> 2013/1/31 Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>:
> > >> >> >>> > >>> >
> > >> >> >>> > >>> > Kalau citizenship barangakali masih perlu di timbang
> > karena
> > >> >> samapi
> > >> >> >>> > saaat
> > >> >> >>> > >>> ini RI tidak mengakui dual citizenhip untuk orang dewasa
> > >> >> >>> > >>> >
> > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > >> >> >>> > >>> Ya dengan sanksi berat sekali yaitu cabut WNI :P
> > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > >> >> >>> > >>> --
> > >> >> >>> > >>> Perry Ismangil
> > >> >> >>> > >>>
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> > >
> > >Regards,
> > >Eddy Manurung
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>
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[Perry Ismangil]

No, the link clearly states you can use form NTL to transfer passport ILTR
to BRP card.

--
Perry Ismangil
me.ismangil.com
On 3 Feb 2013 10:56, "Agung Mandala" <agung.mandala-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> CMIIW, kalo baca lagi kok BRP (and only BRP) itu kalo sebelumnya punya
> limited leave to remain. tapi kalo punya ILTR, tetep hrs punya ILTR di
> passport + BRP. Terus juga masih ada servis transfer ILTR ke passport baru,
> kalo ILTR selalu bisa jadi BRP, apa gunanya transfer visa dong?
>
> Salam,
> Agung
>
>
> 2013/2/2 Kristanti TREPIN <kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org>
>
> > Bang Eddy, ILR lama bisa ditransfer ke BRP, tapi ada biayanya, dan kalau
> > tidak salah 220 GBP, keterangan lengkap ada di website UKBA ttg ini.
> >
> >
> >
> http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/visas-immigration/while-in-uk/transfer-visa-to-passport/
> >
> > Salam,
> > Kristanti
> >
> >
> >
> > 2013/2/1 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
> >
> > > yang apply ILR sejak Feb 2012 sudah gak dapet stamp di pasport lagi,
> tapi
> > > dikasih kartu BRP. Jadi sudah bagian dari proses aplikasi ILR itu
> > sendiri.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >________________________________
> > > > From: Eddy Manurung <eddy.manurung-***@public.gmane.org>
> > > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> > > >Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 12:48 PM
> > > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> > > handbook published today
> > > >
> > > >Makasih Mas Eko.
> > > >Gimana utk mndapatkan BRP card itu?
> > > >Tanks.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >2013/2/1 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
> > > >
> > > >> Biometric Residence Permit - semacam ID card.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> >________________________________
> > > >> > From: Eddy Manurung <eddy.manurung-***@public.gmane.org>
> > > >> >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> > > >> >Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 3:13 AM
> > > >> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> > > >> handbook published today
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Mas Eko, maksudnya apa BRP Card itu?
> > > >> >Thanks
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >2013/1/31 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> kalo sekarang ILR dapetnya BRP card
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> >________________________________
> > > >> >> > From: Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
> > > >> >> >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> > > >> >> >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:32 PM
> > > >> >> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the
> UK
> > > >> >> handbook published today
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >UKBA tidak menganjurkan stiker ILR di pindahkan ke passport
> > baru..
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >Lagi pula harus bayar untuk hal yang tidak perlu dan tidak
> > > dianjurkan.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >Jadi seperti kata pak Perry, tidak perlu Minta stiker baru
> untuk
> > > >> >> dipindahkan ke Passport ynag baru.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >Jadi teorinya IILR nya nempel di passport ynag lama sekalipun
> > > passport
> > > >> >> sudah diganti 3 atau 4 kali, ILR nya tetap saja berlaku di
> > passport
> > > >> ynag
> > > >> >> lama. Ini hanya teori saja lho ya
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >Barangkali rekan rekan yang lain ingin menambahkan. terutama
> > apakah
> > > >> >> perlunay memindahkan stikernya ke passport
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >>________________________________
> > > >> >> >> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> > > >> >> >>To: Adi <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
> > > >> >> >>Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 15:36
> > > >> >> >>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the
> UK
> > > >> >> handbook published today
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >>Ya stiker UKBA kan tidak harus dipindahkan ke paspor baru, so
> ya
> > > >> selalu
> > > >> >> ada
> > > >> >> >>di paspor lama... (teori lho ya ini :-))
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >>--
> > > >> >> >>Perry Ismangil
> > > >> >> >>me.ismangil.com
> > > >> >> >>On 31 Jan 2013 15:32, "Kristanti TREPIN" <kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >>> Iseng saja nih saya nanya,
> > > >> >> >>>
> > > >> >> >>> Kalo sudah punya passport merah/biru (apapun yang tdk hijau
> dan
> > > >> >> berlambang
> > > >> >> >>> garuda), waktu passport di KBRI apakah petugas tidak cek
> atau
> > > tanya
> > > >> >> >>> visa/permit to stay di UK? karena biasanya visa/permit to
> stay
> > di
> > > >> >> >>> UK attached di passport?
> > > >> >> >>>
> > > >> >> >>> Terima kasih
> > > >> >> >>>
> > > >> >> >>> Salam,
> > > >> >> >>> Kristanti
> > > >> >> >>>
> > > >> >> >>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Eko Kurniawan <
> > > >> ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> > > >> >> >>> >wrote:
> > > >> >> >>>
> > > >> >> >>> > mungkin perlu naturalisasi lagi jadi WNI :)
> > > >> >> >>> >
> > > >> >> >>> >
> > > >> >> >>> >
> > > >> >> >>> > >________________________________
> > > >> >> >>> > > From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> > > >> >> >>> > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> > > >> >> >>> > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:26 AM
> > > >> >> >>> > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life
> in
> > > the
> > > >> UK
> > > >> >> >>> > handbook published today
> > > >> >> >>> > >
> > > >> >> >>> > >Kalaupun terjadi, ada amnesti ngga ya untuk yang
> 'terlanjur'
> > > >> punya
> > > >> >> dua
> > > >> >> >>> > paspor :)
> > > >> >> >>> > >
> > > >> >> >>> > >On 31 January 2013 09:52, Bagus Prakoso <
> > brajamusti-***@public.gmane.org
> > > >
> > > >> >> wrote:
> > > >> >> >>> > >> I don't think it's gonna happen very soon. It would be
> a
> > > >> miracle.
> > > >> >> >>> > IMHO.
> > > >> >> >>> > >>
> > > >> >> >>> > >> Chris
> > > >> >> >>> > >>
> > > >> >> >>> > >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM, <
> kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> >> >>> > >>
> > > >> >> >>> > >>> Perkembangan wacana dual nationalities masuk di UU
> > > >> >> Kewarganegaraan
> > > >> >> >>> apa
> > > >> >> >>> > >>> kabarnya ya?
> > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > > >> >> >>> > >>> ------------------
> > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > > >> >> >>> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> >> >>> > >>> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> > > >> >> >>> > >>> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:48:42
> > > >> >> >>> > >>> To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
> > > >> >> >>> > >>> Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <
> > > >> >> uk-***@public.gmane.org>
> > > >> >> >>> > >>> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life
> > in
> > > >> the UK
> > > >> >> >>> > handbook
> > > >> >> >>> > >>> published today
> > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > > >> >> >>> > >>> 2013/1/31 Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>:
> > > >> >> >>> > >>> >
> > > >> >> >>> > >>> > Kalau citizenship barangakali masih perlu di timbang
> > > karena
> > > >> >> samapi
> > > >> >> >>> > saaat
> > > >> >> >>> > >>> ini RI tidak mengakui dual citizenhip untuk orang
> dewasa
> > > >> >> >>> > >>> >
> > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > > >> >> >>> > >>> Ya dengan sanksi berat sekali yaitu cabut WNI :P
> > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > > >> >> >>> > >>> --
> > > >> >> >>> > >>> Perry Ismangil
> > > >> >> >>> > >>>
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[Agung Mandala]

Iya pak, mudah2an begitu, nanti kalo ada yg udah punya BRP card dari ILTR,
mohon di share ya..
Trus pertanyaan berikutnya apa BRP ini nanti cukup untuk apply visa eropa,
kadang mereka minta visa di passport baru.

Salam,
Agung


2013/2/3 Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>

> No, the link clearly states you can use form NTL to transfer passport ILTR
> to BRP card.
>
> --
> Perry Ismangil
> me.ismangil.com
> On 3 Feb 2013 10:56, "Agung Mandala" <agung.mandala-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> > CMIIW, kalo baca lagi kok BRP (and only BRP) itu kalo sebelumnya punya
> > limited leave to remain. tapi kalo punya ILTR, tetep hrs punya ILTR di
> > passport + BRP. Terus juga masih ada servis transfer ILTR ke passport
> baru,
> > kalo ILTR selalu bisa jadi BRP, apa gunanya transfer visa dong?
> >
> > Salam,
> > Agung
> >
> >
> > 2013/2/2 Kristanti TREPIN <kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org>
> >
> > > Bang Eddy, ILR lama bisa ditransfer ke BRP, tapi ada biayanya, dan
> kalau
> > > tidak salah 220 GBP, keterangan lengkap ada di website UKBA ttg ini.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/visas-immigration/while-in-uk/transfer-visa-to-passport/
> > >
> > > Salam,
> > > Kristanti
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2013/2/1 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
> > >
> > > > yang apply ILR sejak Feb 2012 sudah gak dapet stamp di pasport lagi,
> > tapi
> > > > dikasih kartu BRP. Jadi sudah bagian dari proses aplikasi ILR itu
> > > sendiri.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >________________________________
> > > > > From: Eddy Manurung <eddy.manurung-***@public.gmane.org>
> > > > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> > > > >Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 12:48 PM
> > > > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> > > > handbook published today
> > > > >
> > > > >Makasih Mas Eko.
> > > > >Gimana utk mndapatkan BRP card itu?
> > > > >Tanks.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >2013/2/1 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
> > > > >
> > > > >> Biometric Residence Permit - semacam ID card.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> >________________________________
> > > > >> > From: Eddy Manurung <eddy.manurung-***@public.gmane.org>
> > > > >> >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> > > > >> >Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 3:13 AM
> > > > >> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> > > > >> handbook published today
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >Mas Eko, maksudnya apa BRP Card itu?
> > > > >> >Thanks
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >2013/1/31 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >> kalo sekarang ILR dapetnya BRP card
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> >________________________________
> > > > >> >> > From: Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
> > > > >> >> >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> > > > >> >> >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:32 PM
> > > > >> >> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the
> > UK
> > > > >> >> handbook published today
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> >UKBA tidak menganjurkan stiker ILR di pindahkan ke passport
> > > baru..
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> >Lagi pula harus bayar untuk hal yang tidak perlu dan tidak
> > > > dianjurkan.
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> >Jadi seperti kata pak Perry, tidak perlu Minta stiker baru
> > untuk
> > > > >> >> dipindahkan ke Passport ynag baru.
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> >Jadi teorinya IILR nya nempel di passport ynag lama sekalipun
> > > > passport
> > > > >> >> sudah diganti 3 atau 4 kali, ILR nya tetap saja berlaku di
> > > passport
> > > > >> ynag
> > > > >> >> lama. Ini hanya teori saja lho ya
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> >Barangkali rekan rekan yang lain ingin menambahkan. terutama
> > > apakah
> > > > >> >> perlunay memindahkan stikernya ke passport
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> >>________________________________
> > > > >> >> >> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> > > > >> >> >>To: Adi <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
> > > > >> >> >>Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 15:36
> > > > >> >> >>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in
> the
> > UK
> > > > >> >> handbook published today
> > > > >> >> >>
> > > > >> >> >>Ya stiker UKBA kan tidak harus dipindahkan ke paspor baru, so
> > ya
> > > > >> selalu
> > > > >> >> ada
> > > > >> >> >>di paspor lama... (teori lho ya ini :-))
> > > > >> >> >>
> > > > >> >> >>--
> > > > >> >> >>Perry Ismangil
> > > > >> >> >>me.ismangil.com
> > > > >> >> >>On 31 Jan 2013 15:32, "Kristanti TREPIN" <
> kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >> >> >>
> > > > >> >> >>> Iseng saja nih saya nanya,
> > > > >> >> >>>
> > > > >> >> >>> Kalo sudah punya passport merah/biru (apapun yang tdk hijau
> > dan
> > > > >> >> berlambang
> > > > >> >> >>> garuda), waktu passport di KBRI apakah petugas tidak cek
> > atau
> > > > tanya
> > > > >> >> >>> visa/permit to stay di UK? karena biasanya visa/permit to
> > stay
> > > di
> > > > >> >> >>> UK attached di passport?
> > > > >> >> >>>
> > > > >> >> >>> Terima kasih
> > > > >> >> >>>
> > > > >> >> >>> Salam,
> > > > >> >> >>> Kristanti
> > > > >> >> >>>
> > > > >> >> >>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Eko Kurniawan <
> > > > >> ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> > > > >> >> >>> >wrote:
> > > > >> >> >>>
> > > > >> >> >>> > mungkin perlu naturalisasi lagi jadi WNI :)
> > > > >> >> >>> >
> > > > >> >> >>> >
> > > > >> >> >>> >
> > > > >> >> >>> > >________________________________
> > > > >> >> >>> > > From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> > > > >> >> >>> > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> > > > >> >> >>> > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:26 AM
> > > > >> >> >>> > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > >> UK
> > > > >> >> >>> > handbook published today
> > > > >> >> >>> > >
> > > > >> >> >>> > >Kalaupun terjadi, ada amnesti ngga ya untuk yang
> > 'terlanjur'
> > > > >> punya
> > > > >> >> dua
> > > > >> >> >>> > paspor :)
> > > > >> >> >>> > >
> > > > >> >> >>> > >On 31 January 2013 09:52, Bagus Prakoso <
> > > brajamusti-***@public.gmane.org
> > > > >
> > > > >> >> wrote:
> > > > >> >> >>> > >> I don't think it's gonna happen very soon. It would
> be
> > a
> > > > >> miracle.
> > > > >> >> >>> > IMHO.
> > > > >> >> >>> > >>
> > > > >> >> >>> > >> Chris
> > > > >> >> >>> > >>
> > > > >> >> >>> > >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM, <
> > kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >> >> >>> > >>
> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> Perkembangan wacana dual nationalities masuk di UU
> > > > >> >> Kewarganegaraan
> > > > >> >> >>> apa
> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> kabarnya ya?
> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> ------------------
> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:48:42
> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <
> > > > >> >> uk-***@public.gmane.org>
> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New
> Life
> > > in
> > > > >> the UK
> > > > >> >> >>> > handbook
> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> published today
> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> 2013/1/31 Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>:
> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> >
> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> > Kalau citizenship barangakali masih perlu di
> timbang
> > > > karena
> > > > >> >> samapi
> > > > >> >> >>> > saaat
> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> ini RI tidak mengakui dual citizenhip untuk orang
> > dewasa
> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> >
> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> Ya dengan sanksi berat sekali yaitu cabut WNI :P
> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> --
> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> Perry Ismangil
> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > > > >> _________________________________________________________________
> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options,
> > > please
> > > > >> visit:
> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > > > >> >> >>>
> > > > >>
> > > http://lists.indoexpat.org/mailman/options/uk/kuntoaribowo%40gmail.com
> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > > > >> _________________________________________________________________
> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options,
> > > please
> > > > >> visit:
> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > > > >> >>
> > > http://lists.indoexpat.org/mailman/options/uk/brajamusti%40gmail.com
> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > > > >> >> >>> > >>
> > > > >> _________________________________________________________________
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> > > > >> visit:
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> > > > >> >>
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> > > > >> >> >>> > >
> > > > >> >> >>> > >
> > > > >> >> >>> > >
> > > > >> >> >>> > >--
> > > > >> >> >>> > >Perry Ismangil
> > > > >> >> >>> >
> > > > >_________________________________________________________________
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> please
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> > > > >> >>
> > > >
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> > > > >> >> >>> > >
> > > > >> >> >>> > >
> > > > >> >> >>> > >
> > > > >> >> >>> >
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> > > > >> >> >>
> > > > >> >>
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> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >--
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> >Regards,
> > > > >> >Eddy Manurung
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> > > > >
> > > > >--
> > > > >
> > > > >Regards,
> > > > >Eddy Manurung
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[Eko Kurniawan]

saya punya BRP ILR

BRP card harus di renew tiap 10 tahun (utk ganti foto spt di SIM).

Anak saya dapetnya 5 tahun, karena tentunya wajah anak berubah cepat.



>________________________________
> From: Agung Mandala <agung.mandala-***@public.gmane.org>
>To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 9:44 PM
>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK handbook published today
>
>Iya pak, mudah2an begitu, nanti kalo ada yg udah punya BRP card dari ILTR,
>mohon di share ya..
>Trus pertanyaan berikutnya apa BRP ini nanti cukup untuk apply visa eropa,
>kadang mereka minta visa di passport baru.
>
>Salam,
>Agung
>
>
>2013/2/3 Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>
>> No, the link clearly states you can use form NTL to transfer passport ILTR
>> to BRP card.
>>
>> --
>> Perry Ismangil
>> me.ismangil.com
>>  On 3 Feb 2013 10:56, "Agung Mandala" <agung.mandala-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>
>> > CMIIW, kalo baca lagi kok BRP (and only BRP) itu kalo sebelumnya punya
>> > limited leave to remain. tapi kalo punya ILTR, tetep hrs punya ILTR di
>> > passport + BRP. Terus juga masih ada servis transfer ILTR ke passport
>> baru,
>> > kalo ILTR selalu bisa jadi BRP, apa gunanya transfer visa dong?
>> >
>> > Salam,
>> > Agung
>> >
>> >
>> > 2013/2/2 Kristanti TREPIN <kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org>
>> >
>> > > Bang Eddy, ILR lama bisa ditransfer ke BRP, tapi ada biayanya, dan
>> kalau
>> > > tidak salah 220 GBP, keterangan lengkap ada di website UKBA ttg ini.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/visas-immigration/while-in-uk/transfer-visa-to-passport/
>> > >
>> > > Salam,
>> > > Kristanti
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > 2013/2/1 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
>> > >
>> > > > yang apply ILR sejak Feb 2012 sudah gak dapet stamp di pasport lagi,
>> > tapi
>> > > > dikasih kartu BRP.  Jadi sudah bagian dari proses aplikasi ILR itu
>> > > sendiri.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > >________________________________
>> > > > > From: Eddy Manurung <eddy.manurung-***@public.gmane.org>
>> > > > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>> > > > >Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 12:48 PM
>> > > > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
>> > > > handbook published today
>> > > > >
>> > > > >Makasih Mas Eko.
>> > > > >Gimana utk mndapatkan BRP card itu?
>> > > > >Tanks.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >2013/2/1 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
>> > > > >
>> > > > >> Biometric Residence Permit - semacam ID card.
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> >________________________________
>> > > > >> > From: Eddy Manurung <eddy.manurung-***@public.gmane.org>
>> > > > >> >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>> > > > >> >Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 3:13 AM
>> > > > >> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
>> > > > >> handbook published today
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> >Mas Eko, maksudnya apa BRP Card itu?
>> > > > >> >Thanks
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> >2013/1/31 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> >> kalo sekarang ILR dapetnya BRP card
>> > > > >> >>
>> > > > >> >>
>> > > > >> >>
>> > > > >> >> >________________________________
>> > > > >> >> > From: Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
>> > > > >> >> >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>> > > > >> >> >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:32 PM
>> > > > >> >> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the
>> > UK
>> > > > >> >> handbook published today
>> > > > >> >> >
>> > > > >> >> >UKBA tidak menganjurkan  stiker ILR di pindahkan ke passport
>> > > baru..
>> > > > >> >> >
>> > > > >> >> >Lagi pula harus bayar untuk hal yang tidak perlu dan tidak
>> > > > dianjurkan.
>> > > > >> >> >
>> > > > >> >> >Jadi seperti kata pak Perry,  tidak perlu Minta stiker baru
>> > untuk
>> > > > >> >> dipindahkan ke Passport ynag baru.
>> > > > >> >> >
>> > > > >> >> >Jadi teorinya IILR nya nempel di passport ynag lama sekalipun
>> > > > passport
>> > > > >> >> sudah diganti 3 atau 4 kali, ILR  nya tetap saja berlaku di
>> > > passport
>> > > > >> ynag
>> > > > >> >> lama.  Ini hanya teori saja lho ya
>> > > > >> >> >
>> > > > >> >> >Barangkali rekan rekan yang lain ingin menambahkan. terutama
>> > > apakah
>> > > > >> >> perlunay memindahkan stikernya ke passport
>> > > > >> >> >
>> > > > >> >> >
>> > > > >> >> >
>> > > > >> >> >
>> > > > >> >> >
>> > > > >> >> >
>> > > > >> >> >
>> > > > >> >> >
>> > > > >> >> >
>> > > > >> >> >>________________________________
>> > > > >> >> >> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>> > > > >> >> >>To: Adi <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
>> > > > >> >> >>Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 15:36
>> > > > >> >> >>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in
>> the
>> > UK
>> > > > >> >> handbook published today
>> > > > >> >> >>
>> > > > >> >> >>Ya stiker UKBA kan tidak harus dipindahkan ke paspor baru, so
>> > ya
>> > > > >> selalu
>> > > > >> >> ada
>> > > > >> >> >>di paspor lama... (teori lho ya ini :-))
>> > > > >> >> >>
>> > > > >> >> >>--
>> > > > >> >> >>Perry Ismangil
>> > > > >> >> >>me.ismangil.com
>> > > > >> >> >>On 31 Jan 2013 15:32, "Kristanti TREPIN" <
>> kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org>
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > > >> >> >>
>> > > > >> >> >>> Iseng saja nih saya nanya,
>> > > > >> >> >>>
>> > > > >> >> >>> Kalo sudah punya passport merah/biru (apapun yang tdk hijau
>> > dan
>> > > > >> >> berlambang
>> > > > >> >> >>> garuda), waktu  passport di KBRI apakah petugas tidak cek
>> > atau
>> > > > tanya
>> > > > >> >> >>> visa/permit to stay di UK? karena biasanya visa/permit to
>> > stay
>> > > di
>> > > > >> >> >>> UK attached di passport?
>> > > > >> >> >>>
>> > > > >> >> >>> Terima kasih
>> > > > >> >> >>>
>> > > > >> >> >>> Salam,
>> > > > >> >> >>> Kristanti
>> > > > >> >> >>>
>> > > > >> >> >>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Eko Kurniawan <
>> > > > >> ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>> > > > >> >> >>> >wrote:
>> > > > >> >> >>>
>> > > > >> >> >>> > mungkin perlu naturalisasi lagi jadi WNI :)
>> > > > >> >> >>> >
>> > > > >> >> >>> >
>> > > > >> >> >>> >
>> > > > >> >> >>> > >________________________________
>> > > > >> >> >>> > > From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>> > > > >> >> >>> > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>> > > > >> >> >>> > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:26 AM
>> > > > >> >> >>> >  >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life
>> > in
>> > > > the
>> > > > >> UK
>> > > > >> >> >>> > handbook published today
>> > > > >> >> >>> > >
>> > > > >> >> >>> > >Kalaupun terjadi, ada amnesti ngga ya untuk yang
>> > 'terlanjur'
>> > > > >> punya
>> > > > >> >> dua
>> > > > >> >> >>> > paspor :)
>> > > > >> >> >>> > >
>> > > > >> >> >>> > >On 31 January 2013 09:52, Bagus Prakoso <
>> > > brajamusti-***@public.gmane.org
>> > > > >
>> > > > >> >> wrote:
>> > > > >> >> >>> > >> I don't think it's gonna happen very soon.  It would
>> be
>> > a
>> > > > >> miracle.
>> > > > >> >> >>> > IMHO.
>> > > > >> >> >>> > >>
>> > > > >> >> >>> > >> Chris
>> > > > >> >> >>> > >>
>> > > > >> >> >>> > >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM, <
>> > kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
>> > > > >> wrote:
>> > > > >> >> >>> > >>
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>> > > > >> >> Kewarganegaraan
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>> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> >
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[Aryati Rainier]

Saya pakai ILR BRP ke prancis dan belgia pakai mobil tidak perlu
visa..selama pergi sama suami dan bukan lewat pesawat, passport masih ijo,
ilr hilang beberapa bln lalu reapply nya dapat 2 minggu kemudian biaya £37.
On 4 Feb 2013 16:56, "Eko Kurniawan" <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> saya punya BRP ILR
>
> BRP card harus di renew tiap 10 tahun (utk ganti foto spt di SIM).
>
> Anak saya dapetnya 5 tahun, karena tentunya wajah anak berubah cepat.
>
>
>
> >________________________________
> > From: Agung Mandala <agung.mandala-***@public.gmane.org>
> >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> >Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 9:44 PM
> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> handbook published today
> >
> >Iya pak, mudah2an begitu, nanti kalo ada yg udah punya BRP card dari ILTR,
> >mohon di share ya..
> >Trus pertanyaan berikutnya apa BRP ini nanti cukup untuk apply visa eropa,
> >kadang mereka minta visa di passport baru.
> >
> >Salam,
> >Agung
> >
> >
> >2013/2/3 Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> >
> >> No, the link clearly states you can use form NTL to transfer passport
> ILTR
> >> to BRP card.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Perry Ismangil
> >> me.ismangil.com
> >> On 3 Feb 2013 10:56, "Agung Mandala" <agung.mandala-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> > CMIIW, kalo baca lagi kok BRP (and only BRP) itu kalo sebelumnya punya
> >> > limited leave to remain. tapi kalo punya ILTR, tetep hrs punya ILTR di
> >> > passport + BRP. Terus juga masih ada servis transfer ILTR ke passport
> >> baru,
> >> > kalo ILTR selalu bisa jadi BRP, apa gunanya transfer visa dong?
> >> >
> >> > Salam,
> >> > Agung
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 2013/2/2 Kristanti TREPIN <kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >
> >> > > Bang Eddy, ILR lama bisa ditransfer ke BRP, tapi ada biayanya, dan
> >> kalau
> >> > > tidak salah 220 GBP, keterangan lengkap ada di website UKBA ttg ini.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/visas-immigration/while-in-uk/transfer-visa-to-passport/
> >> > >
> >> > > Salam,
> >> > > Kristanti
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > 2013/2/1 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> > >
> >> > > > yang apply ILR sejak Feb 2012 sudah gak dapet stamp di pasport
> lagi,
> >> > tapi
> >> > > > dikasih kartu BRP. Jadi sudah bagian dari proses aplikasi ILR itu
> >> > > sendiri.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > >________________________________
> >> > > > > From: Eddy Manurung <eddy.manurung-***@public.gmane.org>
> >> > > > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> >> > > > >Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 12:48 PM
> >> > > > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> >> > > > handbook published today
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >Makasih Mas Eko.
> >> > > > >Gimana utk mndapatkan BRP card itu?
> >> > > > >Tanks.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >2013/2/1 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >> Biometric Residence Permit - semacam ID card.
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >> >________________________________
> >> > > > >> > From: Eddy Manurung <eddy.manurung-***@public.gmane.org>
> >> > > > >> >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> >> > > > >> >Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 3:13 AM
> >> > > > >> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in
> the UK
> >> > > > >> handbook published today
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> >Mas Eko, maksudnya apa BRP Card itu?
> >> > > > >> >Thanks
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> >2013/1/31 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> >> kalo sekarang ILR dapetnya BRP card
> >> > > > >> >>
> >> > > > >> >>
> >> > > > >> >>
> >> > > > >> >> >________________________________
> >> > > > >> >> > From: Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> > > > >> >> >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> >> > > > >> >> >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:32 PM
> >> > > > >> >> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in
> the
> >> > UK
> >> > > > >> >> handbook published today
> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> > > > >> >> >UKBA tidak menganjurkan stiker ILR di pindahkan ke
> passport
> >> > > baru..
> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> > > > >> >> >Lagi pula harus bayar untuk hal yang tidak perlu dan tidak
> >> > > > dianjurkan.
> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> > > > >> >> >Jadi seperti kata pak Perry, tidak perlu Minta stiker baru
> >> > untuk
> >> > > > >> >> dipindahkan ke Passport ynag baru.
> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> > > > >> >> >Jadi teorinya IILR nya nempel di passport ynag lama
> sekalipun
> >> > > > passport
> >> > > > >> >> sudah diganti 3 atau 4 kali, ILR nya tetap saja berlaku di
> >> > > passport
> >> > > > >> ynag
> >> > > > >> >> lama. Ini hanya teori saja lho ya
> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> > > > >> >> >Barangkali rekan rekan yang lain ingin menambahkan.
> terutama
> >> > > apakah
> >> > > > >> >> perlunay memindahkan stikernya ke passport
> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> > > > >> >> >>________________________________
> >> > > > >> >> >> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> > > > >> >> >>To: Adi <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> > > > >> >> >>Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 15:36
> >> > > > >> >> >>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in
> >> the
> >> > UK
> >> > > > >> >> handbook published today
> >> > > > >> >> >>
> >> > > > >> >> >>Ya stiker UKBA kan tidak harus dipindahkan ke paspor
> baru, so
> >> > ya
> >> > > > >> selalu
> >> > > > >> >> ada
> >> > > > >> >> >>di paspor lama... (teori lho ya ini :-))
> >> > > > >> >> >>
> >> > > > >> >> >>--
> >> > > > >> >> >>Perry Ismangil
> >> > > > >> >> >>me.ismangil.com
> >> > > > >> >> >>On 31 Jan 2013 15:32, "Kristanti TREPIN" <
> >> kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org>
> >> > > > wrote:
> >> > > > >> >> >>
> >> > > > >> >> >>> Iseng saja nih saya nanya,
> >> > > > >> >> >>>
> >> > > > >> >> >>> Kalo sudah punya passport merah/biru (apapun yang tdk
> hijau
> >> > dan
> >> > > > >> >> berlambang
> >> > > > >> >> >>> garuda), waktu passport di KBRI apakah petugas tidak
> cek
> >> > atau
> >> > > > tanya
> >> > > > >> >> >>> visa/permit to stay di UK? karena biasanya visa/permit
> to
> >> > stay
> >> > > di
> >> > > > >> >> >>> UK attached di passport?
> >> > > > >> >> >>>
> >> > > > >> >> >>> Terima kasih
> >> > > > >> >> >>>
> >> > > > >> >> >>> Salam,
> >> > > > >> >> >>> Kristanti
> >> > > > >> >> >>>
> >> > > > >> >> >>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Eko Kurniawan <
> >> > > > >> ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> >> > > > >> >> >>> >wrote:
> >> > > > >> >> >>>
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > mungkin perlu naturalisasi lagi jadi WNI :)
> >> > > > >> >> >>> >
> >> > > > >> >> >>> >
> >> > > > >> >> >>> >
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >________________________________
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > > From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:26 AM
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New
> Life
> >> > in
> >> > > > the
> >> > > > >> UK
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > handbook published today
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >Kalaupun terjadi, ada amnesti ngga ya untuk yang
> >> > 'terlanjur'
> >> > > > >> punya
> >> > > > >> >> dua
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > paspor :)
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >On 31 January 2013 09:52, Bagus Prakoso <
> >> > > brajamusti-***@public.gmane.org
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >> >> wrote:
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >> I don't think it's gonna happen very soon. It
> would
> >> be
> >> > a
> >> > > > >> miracle.
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > IMHO.
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >> Chris
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM, <
> >> > kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
> >> > > > >> wrote:
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> Perkembangan wacana dual nationalities masuk di UU
> >> > > > >> >> Kewarganegaraan
> >> > > > >> >> >>> apa
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> kabarnya ya?
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> ------------------
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:48:42
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <
> >> > > > >> >> uk-***@public.gmane.org>
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New
> >> Life
> >> > > in
> >> > > > >> the UK
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > handbook
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> published today
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> 2013/1/31 Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>:
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> >
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> > Kalau citizenship barangakali masih perlu di
> >> timbang
> >> > > > karena
> >> > > > >> >> samapi
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > saaat
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> ini RI tidak mengakui dual citizenhip untuk orang
> >> > dewasa
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> >
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> Ya dengan sanksi berat sekali yaitu cabut WNI :P
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> --
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Informasi menarik. Jadi selain BRP perlu suami juga kayaknya :-)

--
Perry Ismangil
me.ismangil.com
On 5 Feb 2013 18:35, "Aryati Rainier" <aryarainier-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:

Saya pakai ILR BRP ke prancis dan belgia pakai mobil tidak perlu
visa..selama pergi sama suami dan bukan lewat pesawat, passport masih ijo,
ilr hilang beberapa bln lalu reapply nya dapat 2 minggu kemudian biaya £37.
On 4 Feb 2013 16:56, "Eko Kurniawan" <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> saya punya BRP ILR
>
> BRP card harus di renew tiap 10 tahun (utk ganti foto spt di SIM).
>
> Anak saya dapetnya 5 tahun, karena tentunya wajah anak berubah cepat.
>
>
>
> >________________________________
> > From: Agung Mandala <agung.mandala-***@public.gmane.org>
> >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> >Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 9:44 PM
> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> handbook published today
> >
> >Iya pak, mudah2an begitu, nanti kalo ada yg udah punya BRP card dari
ILTR,
> >mohon di share ya..
> >Trus pertanyaan berikutnya apa BRP ini nanti cukup untuk apply visa
eropa,
> >kadang mereka minta visa di passport baru.
> >
> >Salam,
> >Agung
> >
> >
> >2013/2/3 Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> >
> >> No, the link clearly states you can use form NTL to transfer passport
> ILTR
> >> to BRP card.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Perry Ismangil
> >> me.ismangil.com
> >> On 3 Feb 2013 10:56, "Agung Mandala" <agung.mandala-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> > CMIIW, kalo baca lagi kok BRP (and only BRP) itu kalo sebelumnya
punya
> >> > limited leave to remain. tapi kalo punya ILTR, tetep hrs punya ILTR
di
> >> > passport + BRP. Terus juga masih ada servis transfer ILTR ke passport
> >> baru,
> >> > kalo ILTR selalu bisa jadi BRP, apa gunanya transfer visa dong?
> >> >
> >> > Salam,
> >> > Agung
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 2013/2/2 Kristanti TREPIN <kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >
> >> > > Bang Eddy, ILR lama bisa ditransfer ke BRP, tapi ada biayanya, dan
> >> kalau
> >> > > tidak salah 220 GBP, keterangan lengkap ada di website UKBA ttg
ini.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
>
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/visas-immigration/while-in-uk/transfer-visa-to-passport/
> >> > >
> >> > > Salam,
> >> > > Kristanti
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > 2013/2/1 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> > >
> >> > > > yang apply ILR sejak Feb 2012 sudah gak dapet stamp di pasport
> lagi,
> >> > tapi
> >> > > > dikasih kartu BRP. Jadi sudah bagian dari proses aplikasi ILR
itu
> >> > > sendiri.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > >________________________________
> >> > > > > From: Eddy Manurung <eddy.manurung-***@public.gmane.org>
> >> > > > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> >> > > > >Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 12:48 PM
> >> > > > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the
UK
> >> > > > handbook published today
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >Makasih Mas Eko.
> >> > > > >Gimana utk mndapatkan BRP card itu?
> >> > > > >Tanks.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >2013/2/1 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >> Biometric Residence Permit - semacam ID card.
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >>
> >> > > > >> >________________________________
> >> > > > >> > From: Eddy Manurung <eddy.manurung-***@public.gmane.org>
> >> > > > >> >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> >> > > > >> >Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 3:13 AM
> >> > > > >> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in
> the UK
> >> > > > >> handbook published today
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> >Mas Eko, maksudnya apa BRP Card itu?
> >> > > > >> >Thanks
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> >2013/1/31 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> > > > >> >
> >> > > > >> >> kalo sekarang ILR dapetnya BRP card
> >> > > > >> >>
> >> > > > >> >>
> >> > > > >> >>
> >> > > > >> >> >________________________________
> >> > > > >> >> > From: Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> > > > >> >> >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> >> > > > >> >> >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:32 PM
> >> > > > >> >> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in
> the
> >> > UK
> >> > > > >> >> handbook published today
> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> > > > >> >> >UKBA tidak menganjurkan stiker ILR di pindahkan ke
> passport
> >> > > baru..
> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> > > > >> >> >Lagi pula harus bayar untuk hal yang tidak perlu dan tidak
> >> > > > dianjurkan.
> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> > > > >> >> >Jadi seperti kata pak Perry, tidak perlu Minta stiker
baru
> >> > untuk
> >> > > > >> >> dipindahkan ke Passport ynag baru.
> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> > > > >> >> >Jadi teorinya IILR nya nempel di passport ynag lama
> sekalipun
> >> > > > passport
> >> > > > >> >> sudah diganti 3 atau 4 kali, ILR nya tetap saja berlaku di
> >> > > passport
> >> > > > >> ynag
> >> > > > >> >> lama. Ini hanya teori saja lho ya
> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> > > > >> >> >Barangkali rekan rekan yang lain ingin menambahkan.
> terutama
> >> > > apakah
> >> > > > >> >> perlunay memindahkan stikernya ke passport
> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> > > > >> >> >>________________________________
> >> > > > >> >> >> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> > > > >> >> >>To: Adi <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> > > > >> >> >>Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 15:36
> >> > > > >> >> >>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life
in
> >> the
> >> > UK
> >> > > > >> >> handbook published today
> >> > > > >> >> >>
> >> > > > >> >> >>Ya stiker UKBA kan tidak harus dipindahkan ke paspor
> baru, so
> >> > ya
> >> > > > >> selalu
> >> > > > >> >> ada
> >> > > > >> >> >>di paspor lama... (teori lho ya ini :-))
> >> > > > >> >> >>
> >> > > > >> >> >>--
> >> > > > >> >> >>Perry Ismangil
> >> > > > >> >> >>me.ismangil.com
> >> > > > >> >> >>On 31 Jan 2013 15:32, "Kristanti TREPIN" <
> >> kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org>
> >> > > > wrote:
> >> > > > >> >> >>
> >> > > > >> >> >>> Iseng saja nih saya nanya,
> >> > > > >> >> >>>
> >> > > > >> >> >>> Kalo sudah punya passport merah/biru (apapun yang tdk
> hijau
> >> > dan
> >> > > > >> >> berlambang
> >> > > > >> >> >>> garuda), waktu passport di KBRI apakah petugas tidak
> cek
> >> > atau
> >> > > > tanya
> >> > > > >> >> >>> visa/permit to stay di UK? karena biasanya visa/permit
> to
> >> > stay
> >> > > di
> >> > > > >> >> >>> UK attached di passport?
> >> > > > >> >> >>>
> >> > > > >> >> >>> Terima kasih
> >> > > > >> >> >>>
> >> > > > >> >> >>> Salam,
> >> > > > >> >> >>> Kristanti
> >> > > > >> >> >>>
> >> > > > >> >> >>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Eko Kurniawan <
> >> > > > >> ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> >> > > > >> >> >>> >wrote:
> >> > > > >> >> >>>
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > mungkin perlu naturalisasi lagi jadi WNI :)
> >> > > > >> >> >>> >
> >> > > > >> >> >>> >
> >> > > > >> >> >>> >
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >________________________________
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > > From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:26 AM
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New
> Life
> >> > in
> >> > > > the
> >> > > > >> UK
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > handbook published today
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >Kalaupun terjadi, ada amnesti ngga ya untuk yang
> >> > 'terlanjur'
> >> > > > >> punya
> >> > > > >> >> dua
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > paspor :)
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >On 31 January 2013 09:52, Bagus Prakoso <
> >> > > brajamusti-***@public.gmane.org
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >> >> wrote:
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >> I don't think it's gonna happen very soon. It
> would
> >> be
> >> > a
> >> > > > >> miracle.
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > IMHO.
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >> Chris
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM, <
> >> > kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
> >> > > > >> wrote:
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> Perkembangan wacana dual nationalities masuk di
UU
> >> > > > >> >> Kewarganegaraan
> >> > > > >> >> >>> apa
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> kabarnya ya?
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> ------------------
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:48:42
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK
<
> >> > > > >> >> uk-***@public.gmane.org>
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency |
New
> >> Life
> >> > > in
> >> > > > >> the UK
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > handbook
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> published today
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> 2013/1/31 Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>:
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> >
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> > Kalau citizenship barangakali masih perlu di
> >> timbang
> >> > > > karena
> >> > > > >> >> samapi
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > saaat
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> ini RI tidak mengakui dual citizenhip untuk orang
> >> > dewasa
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> >
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> Ya dengan sanksi berat sekali yaitu cabut WNI :P
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> --
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Betul pak ..tanpa suami (uk) harus bekal visa..dan juga ada satu tambahan
jika passport blm memakai tambahan nama suami sebaiknya berbekal surat
nikah juga.
On 5 Feb 2013 17:39, "Perry Ismangil" <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> Informasi menarik. Jadi selain BRP perlu suami juga kayaknya :-)
>
> --
> Perry Ismangil
> me.ismangil.com
> On 5 Feb 2013 18:35, "Aryati Rainier" <aryarainier-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> Saya pakai ILR BRP ke prancis dan belgia pakai mobil tidak perlu
> visa..selama pergi sama suami dan bukan lewat pesawat, passport masih ijo,
> ilr hilang beberapa bln lalu reapply nya dapat 2 minggu kemudian biaya £37.
> On 4 Feb 2013 16:56, "Eko Kurniawan" <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> > saya punya BRP ILR
> >
> > BRP card harus di renew tiap 10 tahun (utk ganti foto spt di SIM).
> >
> > Anak saya dapetnya 5 tahun, karena tentunya wajah anak berubah cepat.
> >
> >
> >
> > >________________________________
> > > From: Agung Mandala <agung.mandala-***@public.gmane.org>
> > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> > >Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 9:44 PM
> > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> > handbook published today
> > >
> > >Iya pak, mudah2an begitu, nanti kalo ada yg udah punya BRP card dari
> ILTR,
> > >mohon di share ya..
> > >Trus pertanyaan berikutnya apa BRP ini nanti cukup untuk apply visa
> eropa,
> > >kadang mereka minta visa di passport baru.
> > >
> > >Salam,
> > >Agung
> > >
> > >
> > >2013/2/3 Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> > >
> > >> No, the link clearly states you can use form NTL to transfer passport
> > ILTR
> > >> to BRP card.
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Perry Ismangil
> > >> me.ismangil.com
> > >> On 3 Feb 2013 10:56, "Agung Mandala" <agung.mandala-***@public.gmane.org>
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > CMIIW, kalo baca lagi kok BRP (and only BRP) itu kalo sebelumnya
> punya
> > >> > limited leave to remain. tapi kalo punya ILTR, tetep hrs punya ILTR
> di
> > >> > passport + BRP. Terus juga masih ada servis transfer ILTR ke
> passport
> > >> baru,
> > >> > kalo ILTR selalu bisa jadi BRP, apa gunanya transfer visa dong?
> > >> >
> > >> > Salam,
> > >> > Agung
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > 2013/2/2 Kristanti TREPIN <kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> >
> > >> > > Bang Eddy, ILR lama bisa ditransfer ke BRP, tapi ada biayanya, dan
> > >> kalau
> > >> > > tidak salah 220 GBP, keterangan lengkap ada di website UKBA ttg
> ini.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> > >>
> >
>
> http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/visas-immigration/while-in-uk/transfer-visa-to-passport/
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Salam,
> > >> > > Kristanti
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > 2013/2/1 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > yang apply ILR sejak Feb 2012 sudah gak dapet stamp di pasport
> > lagi,
> > >> > tapi
> > >> > > > dikasih kartu BRP. Jadi sudah bagian dari proses aplikasi ILR
> itu
> > >> > > sendiri.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > >________________________________
> > >> > > > > From: Eddy Manurung <eddy.manurung-***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> > > > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> > >> > > > >Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 12:48 PM
> > >> > > > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the
> UK
> > >> > > > handbook published today
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >Makasih Mas Eko.
> > >> > > > >Gimana utk mndapatkan BRP card itu?
> > >> > > > >Tanks.
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >2013/2/1 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >> Biometric Residence Permit - semacam ID card.
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > > > >> >________________________________
> > >> > > > >> > From: Eddy Manurung <eddy.manurung-***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> > > > >> >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> > >> > > > >> >Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 3:13 AM
> > >> > > > >> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in
> > the UK
> > >> > > > >> handbook published today
> > >> > > > >> >
> > >> > > > >> >Mas Eko, maksudnya apa BRP Card itu?
> > >> > > > >> >Thanks
> > >> > > > >> >
> > >> > > > >> >
> > >> > > > >> >2013/1/31 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> > > > >> >
> > >> > > > >> >> kalo sekarang ILR dapetnya BRP card
> > >> > > > >> >>
> > >> > > > >> >>
> > >> > > > >> >>
> > >> > > > >> >> >________________________________
> > >> > > > >> >> > From: Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> > > > >> >> >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> > >> > > > >> >> >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:32 PM
> > >> > > > >> >> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life
> in
> > the
> > >> > UK
> > >> > > > >> >> handbook published today
> > >> > > > >> >> >
> > >> > > > >> >> >UKBA tidak menganjurkan stiker ILR di pindahkan ke
> > passport
> > >> > > baru..
> > >> > > > >> >> >
> > >> > > > >> >> >Lagi pula harus bayar untuk hal yang tidak perlu dan
> tidak
> > >> > > > dianjurkan.
> > >> > > > >> >> >
> > >> > > > >> >> >Jadi seperti kata pak Perry, tidak perlu Minta stiker
> baru
> > >> > untuk
> > >> > > > >> >> dipindahkan ke Passport ynag baru.
> > >> > > > >> >> >
> > >> > > > >> >> >Jadi teorinya IILR nya nempel di passport ynag lama
> > sekalipun
> > >> > > > passport
> > >> > > > >> >> sudah diganti 3 atau 4 kali, ILR nya tetap saja berlaku
> di
> > >> > > passport
> > >> > > > >> ynag
> > >> > > > >> >> lama. Ini hanya teori saja lho ya
> > >> > > > >> >> >
> > >> > > > >> >> >Barangkali rekan rekan yang lain ingin menambahkan.
> > terutama
> > >> > > apakah
> > >> > > > >> >> perlunay memindahkan stikernya ke passport
> > >> > > > >> >> >
> > >> > > > >> >> >
> > >> > > > >> >> >
> > >> > > > >> >> >
> > >> > > > >> >> >
> > >> > > > >> >> >
> > >> > > > >> >> >
> > >> > > > >> >> >
> > >> > > > >> >> >
> > >> > > > >> >> >>________________________________
> > >> > > > >> >> >> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> > > > >> >> >>To: Adi <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> > > > >> >> >>Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 15:36
> > >> > > > >> >> >>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life
> in
> > >> the
> > >> > UK
> > >> > > > >> >> handbook published today
> > >> > > > >> >> >>
> > >> > > > >> >> >>Ya stiker UKBA kan tidak harus dipindahkan ke paspor
> > baru, so
> > >> > ya
> > >> > > > >> selalu
> > >> > > > >> >> ada
> > >> > > > >> >> >>di paspor lama... (teori lho ya ini :-))
> > >> > > > >> >> >>
> > >> > > > >> >> >>--
> > >> > > > >> >> >>Perry Ismangil
> > >> > > > >> >> >>me.ismangil.com
> > >> > > > >> >> >>On 31 Jan 2013 15:32, "Kristanti TREPIN" <
> > >> kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> > > > wrote:
> > >> > > > >> >> >>
> > >> > > > >> >> >>> Iseng saja nih saya nanya,
> > >> > > > >> >> >>>
> > >> > > > >> >> >>> Kalo sudah punya passport merah/biru (apapun yang tdk
> > hijau
> > >> > dan
> > >> > > > >> >> berlambang
> > >> > > > >> >> >>> garuda), waktu passport di KBRI apakah petugas tidak
> > cek
> > >> > atau
> > >> > > > tanya
> > >> > > > >> >> >>> visa/permit to stay di UK? karena biasanya visa/permit
> > to
> > >> > stay
> > >> > > di
> > >> > > > >> >> >>> UK attached di passport?
> > >> > > > >> >> >>>
> > >> > > > >> >> >>> Terima kasih
> > >> > > > >> >> >>>
> > >> > > > >> >> >>> Salam,
> > >> > > > >> >> >>> Kristanti
> > >> > > > >> >> >>>
> > >> > > > >> >> >>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Eko Kurniawan <
> > >> > > > >> ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> > >> > > > >> >> >>> >wrote:
> > >> > > > >> >> >>>
> > >> > > > >> >> >>> > mungkin perlu naturalisasi lagi jadi WNI :)
> > >> > > > >> >> >>> >
> > >> > > > >> >> >>> >
> > >> > > > >> >> >>> >
> > >> > > > >> >> >>> > >________________________________
> > >> > > > >> >> >>> > > From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> > > > >> >> >>> > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> > >> > > > >> >> >>> > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:26 AM
> > >> > > > >> >> >>> > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New
> > Life
> > >> > in
> > >> > > > the
> > >> > > > >> UK
> > >> > > > >> >> >>> > handbook published today
> > >> > > > >> >> >>> > >
> > >> > > > >> >> >>> > >Kalaupun terjadi, ada amnesti ngga ya untuk yang
> > >> > 'terlanjur'
> > >> > > > >> punya
> > >> > > > >> >> dua
> > >> > > > >> >> >>> > paspor :)
> > >> > > > >> >> >>> > >
> > >> > > > >> >> >>> > >On 31 January 2013 09:52, Bagus Prakoso <
> > >> > > brajamusti-***@public.gmane.org
> > >> > > > >
> > >> > > > >> >> wrote:
> > >> > > > >> >> >>> > >> I don't think it's gonna happen very soon. It
> > would
> > >> be
> > >> > a
> > >> > > > >> miracle.
> > >> > > > >> >> >>> > IMHO.
> > >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>
> > >> > > > >> >> >>> > >> Chris
> > >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>
> > >> > > > >> >> >>> > >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM, <
> > >> > kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> > > > >> wrote:
> > >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>
> > >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> Perkembangan wacana dual nationalities masuk di
> UU
> > >> > > > >> >> Kewarganegaraan
> > >> > > > >> >> >>> apa
> > >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> kabarnya ya?
> > >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> ------------------
> > >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:48:42
> > >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK
> <
> > >> > > > >> >> uk-***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency |
> New
> > >> Life
> > >> > > in
> > >> > > > >> the UK
> > >> > > > >> >> >>> > handbook
> > >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> published today
> > >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> 2013/1/31 Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>:
> > >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> >
> > >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> > Kalau citizenship barangakali masih perlu di
> > >> timbang
> > >> > > > karena
> > >> > > > >> >> samapi
> > >> > > > >> >> >>> > saaat
> > >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> ini RI tidak mengakui dual citizenhip untuk
> orang
> > >> > dewasa
> > >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> >
> > >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> Ya dengan sanksi berat sekali yaitu cabut WNI :P
> > >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> --
> > >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> Perry Ismangil
> > >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > >> > > > >>
> > _________________________________________________________________
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> > >> > > > >>
> > >> > >
> > http://lists.indoexpat.org/mailman/options/uk/kuntoaribowo%40gmail.com
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> > >> > > > >> >> >>> > >--
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[Aryati Rainier]

Tambahan juga bln lalu buat schengen visa lewat prancis ( untuk ke3 kalinya
tapi pertama dg ILR BRP, kali ini tidak perlu interview dan dan kirim
banyak document seperti sebelumnya karena cuman diminta kirim passport dan
ilr brp.
On 5 Feb 2013 17:35, "Aryati Rainier" <aryarainier-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> Saya pakai ILR BRP ke prancis dan belgia pakai mobil tidak perlu
> visa..selama pergi sama suami dan bukan lewat pesawat, passport masih ijo,
> ilr hilang beberapa bln lalu reapply nya dapat 2 minggu kemudian biaya £37.
> On 4 Feb 2013 16:56, "Eko Kurniawan" <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
>> saya punya BRP ILR
>>
>> BRP card harus di renew tiap 10 tahun (utk ganti foto spt di SIM).
>>
>> Anak saya dapetnya 5 tahun, karena tentunya wajah anak berubah cepat.
>>
>>
>>
>> >________________________________
>> > From: Agung Mandala <agung.mandala-***@public.gmane.org>
>> >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>> >Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 9:44 PM
>> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
>> handbook published today
>> >
>> >Iya pak, mudah2an begitu, nanti kalo ada yg udah punya BRP card dari
>> ILTR,
>> >mohon di share ya..
>> >Trus pertanyaan berikutnya apa BRP ini nanti cukup untuk apply visa
>> eropa,
>> >kadang mereka minta visa di passport baru.
>> >
>> >Salam,
>> >Agung
>> >
>> >
>> >2013/2/3 Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>> >
>> >> No, the link clearly states you can use form NTL to transfer passport
>> ILTR
>> >> to BRP card.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Perry Ismangil
>> >> me.ismangil.com
>> >> On 3 Feb 2013 10:56, "Agung Mandala" <agung.mandala-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > CMIIW, kalo baca lagi kok BRP (and only BRP) itu kalo sebelumnya
>> punya
>> >> > limited leave to remain. tapi kalo punya ILTR, tetep hrs punya ILTR
>> di
>> >> > passport + BRP. Terus juga masih ada servis transfer ILTR ke passport
>> >> baru,
>> >> > kalo ILTR selalu bisa jadi BRP, apa gunanya transfer visa dong?
>> >> >
>> >> > Salam,
>> >> > Agung
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > 2013/2/2 Kristanti TREPIN <kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org>
>> >> >
>> >> > > Bang Eddy, ILR lama bisa ditransfer ke BRP, tapi ada biayanya, dan
>> >> kalau
>> >> > > tidak salah 220 GBP, keterangan lengkap ada di website UKBA ttg
>> ini.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/visas-immigration/while-in-uk/transfer-visa-to-passport/
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Salam,
>> >> > > Kristanti
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > 2013/2/1 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > yang apply ILR sejak Feb 2012 sudah gak dapet stamp di pasport
>> lagi,
>> >> > tapi
>> >> > > > dikasih kartu BRP. Jadi sudah bagian dari proses aplikasi ILR
>> itu
>> >> > > sendiri.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > >________________________________
>> >> > > > > From: Eddy Manurung <eddy.manurung-***@public.gmane.org>
>> >> > > > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>> >> > > > >Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 12:48 PM
>> >> > > > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the
>> UK
>> >> > > > handbook published today
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >Makasih Mas Eko.
>> >> > > > >Gimana utk mndapatkan BRP card itu?
>> >> > > > >Tanks.
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >2013/2/1 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >> Biometric Residence Permit - semacam ID card.
>> >> > > > >>
>> >> > > > >>
>> >> > > > >>
>> >> > > > >>
>> >> > > > >>
>> >> > > > >> >________________________________
>> >> > > > >> > From: Eddy Manurung <eddy.manurung-***@public.gmane.org>
>> >> > > > >> >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>> >> > > > >> >Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 3:13 AM
>> >> > > > >> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in
>> the UK
>> >> > > > >> handbook published today
>> >> > > > >> >
>> >> > > > >> >Mas Eko, maksudnya apa BRP Card itu?
>> >> > > > >> >Thanks
>> >> > > > >> >
>> >> > > > >> >
>> >> > > > >> >2013/1/31 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
>> >> > > > >> >
>> >> > > > >> >> kalo sekarang ILR dapetnya BRP card
>> >> > > > >> >>
>> >> > > > >> >>
>> >> > > > >> >>
>> >> > > > >> >> >________________________________
>> >> > > > >> >> > From: Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
>> >> > > > >> >> >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>> >> > > > >> >> >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:32 PM
>> >> > > > >> >> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life
>> in the
>> >> > UK
>> >> > > > >> >> handbook published today
>> >> > > > >> >> >
>> >> > > > >> >> >UKBA tidak menganjurkan stiker ILR di pindahkan ke
>> passport
>> >> > > baru..
>> >> > > > >> >> >
>> >> > > > >> >> >Lagi pula harus bayar untuk hal yang tidak perlu dan tidak
>> >> > > > dianjurkan.
>> >> > > > >> >> >
>> >> > > > >> >> >Jadi seperti kata pak Perry, tidak perlu Minta stiker
>> baru
>> >> > untuk
>> >> > > > >> >> dipindahkan ke Passport ynag baru.
>> >> > > > >> >> >
>> >> > > > >> >> >Jadi teorinya IILR nya nempel di passport ynag lama
>> sekalipun
>> >> > > > passport
>> >> > > > >> >> sudah diganti 3 atau 4 kali, ILR nya tetap saja berlaku di
>> >> > > passport
>> >> > > > >> ynag
>> >> > > > >> >> lama. Ini hanya teori saja lho ya
>> >> > > > >> >> >
>> >> > > > >> >> >Barangkali rekan rekan yang lain ingin menambahkan.
>> terutama
>> >> > > apakah
>> >> > > > >> >> perlunay memindahkan stikernya ke passport
>> >> > > > >> >> >
>> >> > > > >> >> >
>> >> > > > >> >> >
>> >> > > > >> >> >
>> >> > > > >> >> >
>> >> > > > >> >> >
>> >> > > > >> >> >
>> >> > > > >> >> >
>> >> > > > >> >> >
>> >> > > > >> >> >>________________________________
>> >> > > > >> >> >> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>To: Adi <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 15:36
>> >> > > > >> >> >>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life
>> in
>> >> the
>> >> > UK
>> >> > > > >> >> handbook published today
>> >> > > > >> >> >>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>Ya stiker UKBA kan tidak harus dipindahkan ke paspor
>> baru, so
>> >> > ya
>> >> > > > >> selalu
>> >> > > > >> >> ada
>> >> > > > >> >> >>di paspor lama... (teori lho ya ini :-))
>> >> > > > >> >> >>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>--
>> >> > > > >> >> >>Perry Ismangil
>> >> > > > >> >> >>me.ismangil.com
>> >> > > > >> >> >>On 31 Jan 2013 15:32, "Kristanti TREPIN" <
>> >> kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org>
>> >> > > > wrote:
>> >> > > > >> >> >>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> Iseng saja nih saya nanya,
>> >> > > > >> >> >>>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> Kalo sudah punya passport merah/biru (apapun yang tdk
>> hijau
>> >> > dan
>> >> > > > >> >> berlambang
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> garuda), waktu passport di KBRI apakah petugas tidak
>> cek
>> >> > atau
>> >> > > > tanya
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> visa/permit to stay di UK? karena biasanya visa/permit
>> to
>> >> > stay
>> >> > > di
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> UK attached di passport?
>> >> > > > >> >> >>>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> Terima kasih
>> >> > > > >> >> >>>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> Salam,
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> Kristanti
>> >> > > > >> >> >>>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Eko Kurniawan <
>> >> > > > >> ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> >wrote:
>> >> > > > >> >> >>>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > mungkin perlu naturalisasi lagi jadi WNI :)
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> >
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> >
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> >
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >________________________________
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > > From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:26 AM
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New
>> Life
>> >> > in
>> >> > > > the
>> >> > > > >> UK
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > handbook published today
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >Kalaupun terjadi, ada amnesti ngga ya untuk yang
>> >> > 'terlanjur'
>> >> > > > >> punya
>> >> > > > >> >> dua
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > paspor :)
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >On 31 January 2013 09:52, Bagus Prakoso <
>> >> > > brajamusti-***@public.gmane.org
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >> >> wrote:
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >> I don't think it's gonna happen very soon. It
>> would
>> >> be
>> >> > a
>> >> > > > >> miracle.
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > IMHO.
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >> Chris
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM, <
>> >> > kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
>> >> > > > >> wrote:
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> Perkembangan wacana dual nationalities masuk di
>> UU
>> >> > > > >> >> Kewarganegaraan
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> apa
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> kabarnya ya?
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> ------------------
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:48:42
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK
>> <
>> >> > > > >> >> uk-***@public.gmane.org>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency |
>> New
>> >> Life
>> >> > > in
>> >> > > > >> the UK
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > handbook
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> published today
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> 2013/1/31 Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>:
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> >
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> > Kalau citizenship barangakali masih perlu di
>> >> timbang
>> >> > > > karena
>> >> > > > >> >> samapi
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > saaat
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> ini RI tidak mengakui dual citizenhip untuk orang
>> >> > dewasa
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> >
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> Ya dengan sanksi berat sekali yaitu cabut WNI :P
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> --
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> Perry Ismangil
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
>> >> > > > >>
>> _________________________________________________________________
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> To unsubscribe or modify your subscription
>> options,
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>> >> > > > >> >> >>>
>> >> > > > >>
>> >> > >
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>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
>> >> > > > >>
>> _________________________________________________________________
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>> options,
>> >> > > please
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>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
>> >> > > > >> >>
>> >> > >
>> http://lists.indoexpat.org/mailman/options/uk/brajamusti%40gmail.com
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>
>> >> > > > >>
>> _________________________________________________________________
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>> options,
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>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>
>> >> > > > >> >>
>> >> > http://lists.indoexpat.org/mailman/options/uk/perry%40ismangil.com
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >--
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >Perry Ismangil
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> >
>> >> > > >
>> >_________________________________________________________________
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options,
>> >> please
>> >> > > > visit:
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >
>> >> > > > >> >>
>> >> > > >
>> >> http://lists.indoexpat.org/mailman/options/uk/ekokurniawan%40yahoo.com
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> >
>> >> > > > _________________________________________________________________
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>> >> > > > >> >
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>> >> > > > >> >--
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>> >> > > > >> >Eddy Manurung
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>> >> > > > >
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Permisi, ikut nimbrung.

Jadi ada untungnya juga ya punya BRP. Bikin visa berkurang ribetnya.

Terima kasih banyak infonya mbak Aryati dan semua kontributor milis ini.

Salam,
Shinta

-----Original Message-----
From: Aryati Rainier <aryarainier-***@public.gmane.org>
Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2013 17:39:38
To: Shinta Moeladi<shintamoeladi-***@public.gmane.org>
Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <uk-***@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK handbook
published today

Tambahan juga bln lalu buat schengen visa lewat prancis ( untuk ke3 kalinya
tapi pertama dg ILR BRP, kali ini tidak perlu interview dan dan kirim
banyak document seperti sebelumnya karena cuman diminta kirim passport dan
ilr brp.
On 5 Feb 2013 17:35, "Aryati Rainier" <aryarainier-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> Saya pakai ILR BRP ke prancis dan belgia pakai mobil tidak perlu
> visa..selama pergi sama suami dan bukan lewat pesawat, passport masih ijo,
> ilr hilang beberapa bln lalu reapply nya dapat 2 minggu kemudian biaya £37.
> On 4 Feb 2013 16:56, "Eko Kurniawan" <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
>> saya punya BRP ILR
>>
>> BRP card harus di renew tiap 10 tahun (utk ganti foto spt di SIM).
>>
>> Anak saya dapetnya 5 tahun, karena tentunya wajah anak berubah cepat.
>>
>>
>>
>> >________________________________
>> > From: Agung Mandala <agung.mandala-***@public.gmane.org>
>> >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>> >Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 9:44 PM
>> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
>> handbook published today
>> >
>> >Iya pak, mudah2an begitu, nanti kalo ada yg udah punya BRP card dari
>> ILTR,
>> >mohon di share ya..
>> >Trus pertanyaan berikutnya apa BRP ini nanti cukup untuk apply visa
>> eropa,
>> >kadang mereka minta visa di passport baru.
>> >
>> >Salam,
>> >Agung
>> >
>> >
>> >2013/2/3 Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>> >
>> >> No, the link clearly states you can use form NTL to transfer passport
>> ILTR
>> >> to BRP card.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Perry Ismangil
>> >> me.ismangil.com
>> >> On 3 Feb 2013 10:56, "Agung Mandala" <agung.mandala-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > CMIIW, kalo baca lagi kok BRP (and only BRP) itu kalo sebelumnya
>> punya
>> >> > limited leave to remain. tapi kalo punya ILTR, tetep hrs punya ILTR
>> di
>> >> > passport + BRP. Terus juga masih ada servis transfer ILTR ke passport
>> >> baru,
>> >> > kalo ILTR selalu bisa jadi BRP, apa gunanya transfer visa dong?
>> >> >
>> >> > Salam,
>> >> > Agung
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > 2013/2/2 Kristanti TREPIN <kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org>
>> >> >
>> >> > > Bang Eddy, ILR lama bisa ditransfer ke BRP, tapi ada biayanya, dan
>> >> kalau
>> >> > > tidak salah 220 GBP, keterangan lengkap ada di website UKBA ttg
>> ini.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/visas-immigration/while-in-uk/transfer-visa-to-passport/
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Salam,
>> >> > > Kristanti
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > 2013/2/1 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > yang apply ILR sejak Feb 2012 sudah gak dapet stamp di pasport
>> lagi,
>> >> > tapi
>> >> > > > dikasih kartu BRP. Jadi sudah bagian dari proses aplikasi ILR
>> itu
>> >> > > sendiri.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > >________________________________
>> >> > > > > From: Eddy Manurung <eddy.manurung-***@public.gmane.org>
>> >> > > > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>> >> > > > >Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 12:48 PM
>> >> > > > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the
>> UK
>> >> > > > handbook published today
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >Makasih Mas Eko.
>> >> > > > >Gimana utk mndapatkan BRP card itu?
>> >> > > > >Tanks.
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >2013/2/1 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >> Biometric Residence Permit - semacam ID card.
>> >> > > > >>
>> >> > > > >>
>> >> > > > >>
>> >> > > > >>
>> >> > > > >>
>> >> > > > >> >________________________________
>> >> > > > >> > From: Eddy Manurung <eddy.manurung-***@public.gmane.org>
>> >> > > > >> >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>> >> > > > >> >Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 3:13 AM
>> >> > > > >> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in
>> the UK
>> >> > > > >> handbook published today
>> >> > > > >> >
>> >> > > > >> >Mas Eko, maksudnya apa BRP Card itu?
>> >> > > > >> >Thanks
>> >> > > > >> >
>> >> > > > >> >
>> >> > > > >> >2013/1/31 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
>> >> > > > >> >
>> >> > > > >> >> kalo sekarang ILR dapetnya BRP card
>> >> > > > >> >>
>> >> > > > >> >>
>> >> > > > >> >>
>> >> > > > >> >> >________________________________
>> >> > > > >> >> > From: Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
>> >> > > > >> >> >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>> >> > > > >> >> >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:32 PM
>> >> > > > >> >> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life
>> in the
>> >> > UK
>> >> > > > >> >> handbook published today
>> >> > > > >> >> >
>> >> > > > >> >> >UKBA tidak menganjurkan stiker ILR di pindahkan ke
>> passport
>> >> > > baru..
>> >> > > > >> >> >
>> >> > > > >> >> >Lagi pula harus bayar untuk hal yang tidak perlu dan tidak
>> >> > > > dianjurkan.
>> >> > > > >> >> >
>> >> > > > >> >> >Jadi seperti kata pak Perry, tidak perlu Minta stiker
>> baru
>> >> > untuk
>> >> > > > >> >> dipindahkan ke Passport ynag baru.
>> >> > > > >> >> >
>> >> > > > >> >> >Jadi teorinya IILR nya nempel di passport ynag lama
>> sekalipun
>> >> > > > passport
>> >> > > > >> >> sudah diganti 3 atau 4 kali, ILR nya tetap saja berlaku di
>> >> > > passport
>> >> > > > >> ynag
>> >> > > > >> >> lama. Ini hanya teori saja lho ya
>> >> > > > >> >> >
>> >> > > > >> >> >Barangkali rekan rekan yang lain ingin menambahkan.
>> terutama
>> >> > > apakah
>> >> > > > >> >> perlunay memindahkan stikernya ke passport
>> >> > > > >> >> >
>> >> > > > >> >> >
>> >> > > > >> >> >
>> >> > > > >> >> >
>> >> > > > >> >> >
>> >> > > > >> >> >
>> >> > > > >> >> >
>> >> > > > >> >> >
>> >> > > > >> >> >
>> >> > > > >> >> >>________________________________
>> >> > > > >> >> >> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>To: Adi <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 15:36
>> >> > > > >> >> >>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life
>> in
>> >> the
>> >> > UK
>> >> > > > >> >> handbook published today
>> >> > > > >> >> >>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>Ya stiker UKBA kan tidak harus dipindahkan ke paspor
>> baru, so
>> >> > ya
>> >> > > > >> selalu
>> >> > > > >> >> ada
>> >> > > > >> >> >>di paspor lama... (teori lho ya ini :-))
>> >> > > > >> >> >>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>--
>> >> > > > >> >> >>Perry Ismangil
>> >> > > > >> >> >>me.ismangil.com
>> >> > > > >> >> >>On 31 Jan 2013 15:32, "Kristanti TREPIN" <
>> >> kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org>
>> >> > > > wrote:
>> >> > > > >> >> >>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> Iseng saja nih saya nanya,
>> >> > > > >> >> >>>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> Kalo sudah punya passport merah/biru (apapun yang tdk
>> hijau
>> >> > dan
>> >> > > > >> >> berlambang
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> garuda), waktu passport di KBRI apakah petugas tidak
>> cek
>> >> > atau
>> >> > > > tanya
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> visa/permit to stay di UK? karena biasanya visa/permit
>> to
>> >> > stay
>> >> > > di
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> UK attached di passport?
>> >> > > > >> >> >>>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> Terima kasih
>> >> > > > >> >> >>>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> Salam,
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> Kristanti
>> >> > > > >> >> >>>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Eko Kurniawan <
>> >> > > > >> ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> >wrote:
>> >> > > > >> >> >>>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > mungkin perlu naturalisasi lagi jadi WNI :)
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> >
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> >
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> >
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >________________________________
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > > From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:26 AM
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New
>> Life
>> >> > in
>> >> > > > the
>> >> > > > >> UK
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > handbook published today
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >Kalaupun terjadi, ada amnesti ngga ya untuk yang
>> >> > 'terlanjur'
>> >> > > > >> punya
>> >> > > > >> >> dua
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > paspor :)
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >On 31 January 2013 09:52, Bagus Prakoso <
>> >> > > brajamusti-***@public.gmane.org
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >> >> wrote:
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >> I don't think it's gonna happen very soon. It
>> would
>> >> be
>> >> > a
>> >> > > > >> miracle.
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > IMHO.
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >> Chris
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM, <
>> >> > kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
>> >> > > > >> wrote:
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> Perkembangan wacana dual nationalities masuk di
>> UU
>> >> > > > >> >> Kewarganegaraan
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> apa
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> kabarnya ya?
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> ------------------
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:48:42
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK
>> <
>> >> > > > >> >> uk-***@public.gmane.org>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency |
>> New
>> >> Life
>> >> > > in
>> >> > > > >> the UK
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > handbook
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> published today
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> 2013/1/31 Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>:
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> >
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> > Kalau citizenship barangakali masih perlu di
>> >> timbang
>> >> > > > karena
>> >> > > > >> >> samapi
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > saaat
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> ini RI tidak mengakui dual citizenhip untuk orang
>> >> > dewasa
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> >
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> Ya dengan sanksi berat sekali yaitu cabut WNI :P
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> --
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> Perry Ismangil
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
>> >> > > > >>
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>> >> > > >
>> >_________________________________________________________________
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[Eddy Manurung]

Mbak Aryati... (kayak judul lagu lama nama mbak...enak lagunya itu)
Makasih atas infonya, menarik... spt dugaanku...jadi aku harus cari suami
org Inggris ... just kidding...
Aku semakin tertarik utk dapetin BRP card... cari duit dulu... :)


2013/2/5 <shintamoeladi-***@public.gmane.org>

> Permisi, ikut nimbrung.
>
> Jadi ada untungnya juga ya punya BRP. Bikin visa berkurang ribetnya.
>
> Terima kasih banyak infonya mbak Aryati dan semua kontributor milis ini.
>
> Salam,
> Shinta
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Aryati Rainier <aryarainier-***@public.gmane.org>
> Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2013 17:39:38
> To: Shinta Moeladi<shintamoeladi-***@public.gmane.org>
> Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <uk-***@public.gmane.org>
> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK handbook
> published today
>
> Tambahan juga bln lalu buat schengen visa lewat prancis ( untuk ke3 kalinya
> tapi pertama dg ILR BRP, kali ini tidak perlu interview dan dan kirim
> banyak document seperti sebelumnya karena cuman diminta kirim passport dan
> ilr brp.
> On 5 Feb 2013 17:35, "Aryati Rainier" <aryarainier-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> > Saya pakai ILR BRP ke prancis dan belgia pakai mobil tidak perlu
> > visa..selama pergi sama suami dan bukan lewat pesawat, passport masih
> ijo,
> > ilr hilang beberapa bln lalu reapply nya dapat 2 minggu kemudian biaya
> £37.
> > On 4 Feb 2013 16:56, "Eko Kurniawan" <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >
> >> saya punya BRP ILR
> >>
> >> BRP card harus di renew tiap 10 tahun (utk ganti foto spt di SIM).
> >>
> >> Anak saya dapetnya 5 tahun, karena tentunya wajah anak berubah cepat.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >________________________________
> >> > From: Agung Mandala <agung.mandala-***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> >> >Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 9:44 PM
> >> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> >> handbook published today
> >> >
> >> >Iya pak, mudah2an begitu, nanti kalo ada yg udah punya BRP card dari
> >> ILTR,
> >> >mohon di share ya..
> >> >Trus pertanyaan berikutnya apa BRP ini nanti cukup untuk apply visa
> >> eropa,
> >> >kadang mereka minta visa di passport baru.
> >> >
> >> >Salam,
> >> >Agung
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >2013/2/3 Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >
> >> >> No, the link clearly states you can use form NTL to transfer passport
> >> ILTR
> >> >> to BRP card.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Perry Ismangil
> >> >> me.ismangil.com
> >> >> On 3 Feb 2013 10:56, "Agung Mandala" <agung.mandala-***@public.gmane.org>
> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > CMIIW, kalo baca lagi kok BRP (and only BRP) itu kalo sebelumnya
> >> punya
> >> >> > limited leave to remain. tapi kalo punya ILTR, tetep hrs punya ILTR
> >> di
> >> >> > passport + BRP. Terus juga masih ada servis transfer ILTR ke
> passport
> >> >> baru,
> >> >> > kalo ILTR selalu bisa jadi BRP, apa gunanya transfer visa dong?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Salam,
> >> >> > Agung
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > 2013/2/2 Kristanti TREPIN <kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > > Bang Eddy, ILR lama bisa ditransfer ke BRP, tapi ada biayanya,
> dan
> >> >> kalau
> >> >> > > tidak salah 220 GBP, keterangan lengkap ada di website UKBA ttg
> >> ini.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >>
> http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/visas-immigration/while-in-uk/transfer-visa-to-passport/
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Salam,
> >> >> > > Kristanti
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > 2013/2/1 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > > yang apply ILR sejak Feb 2012 sudah gak dapet stamp di pasport
> >> lagi,
> >> >> > tapi
> >> >> > > > dikasih kartu BRP. Jadi sudah bagian dari proses aplikasi ILR
> >> itu
> >> >> > > sendiri.
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > >________________________________
> >> >> > > > > From: Eddy Manurung <eddy.manurung-***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >> > > > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> >> >> > > > >Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 12:48 PM
> >> >> > > > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the
> >> UK
> >> >> > > > handbook published today
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > >Makasih Mas Eko.
> >> >> > > > >Gimana utk mndapatkan BRP card itu?
> >> >> > > > >Tanks.
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > >2013/2/1 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > >> Biometric Residence Permit - semacam ID card.
> >> >> > > > >>
> >> >> > > > >>
> >> >> > > > >>
> >> >> > > > >>
> >> >> > > > >>
> >> >> > > > >> >________________________________
> >> >> > > > >> > From: Eddy Manurung <eddy.manurung-***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >> > > > >> >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> >> >> > > > >> >Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 3:13 AM
> >> >> > > > >> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in
> >> the UK
> >> >> > > > >> handbook published today
> >> >> > > > >> >
> >> >> > > > >> >Mas Eko, maksudnya apa BRP Card itu?
> >> >> > > > >> >Thanks
> >> >> > > > >> >
> >> >> > > > >> >
> >> >> > > > >> >2013/1/31 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >> > > > >> >
> >> >> > > > >> >> kalo sekarang ILR dapetnya BRP card
> >> >> > > > >> >>
> >> >> > > > >> >>
> >> >> > > > >> >>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >________________________________
> >> >> > > > >> >> > From: Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> >> >> > > > >> >> >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:32 PM
> >> >> > > > >> >> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life
> >> in the
> >> >> > UK
> >> >> > > > >> >> handbook published today
> >> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> >> > > > >> >> >UKBA tidak menganjurkan stiker ILR di pindahkan ke
> >> passport
> >> >> > > baru..
> >> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> >> > > > >> >> >Lagi pula harus bayar untuk hal yang tidak perlu dan
> tidak
> >> >> > > > dianjurkan.
> >> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> >> > > > >> >> >Jadi seperti kata pak Perry, tidak perlu Minta stiker
> >> baru
> >> >> > untuk
> >> >> > > > >> >> dipindahkan ke Passport ynag baru.
> >> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> >> > > > >> >> >Jadi teorinya IILR nya nempel di passport ynag lama
> >> sekalipun
> >> >> > > > passport
> >> >> > > > >> >> sudah diganti 3 atau 4 kali, ILR nya tetap saja berlaku
> di
> >> >> > > passport
> >> >> > > > >> ynag
> >> >> > > > >> >> lama. Ini hanya teori saja lho ya
> >> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> >> > > > >> >> >Barangkali rekan rekan yang lain ingin menambahkan.
> >> terutama
> >> >> > > apakah
> >> >> > > > >> >> perlunay memindahkan stikernya ke passport
> >> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>________________________________
> >> >> > > > >> >> >> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>To: Adi <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 15:36
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life
> >> in
> >> >> the
> >> >> > UK
> >> >> > > > >> >> handbook published today
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>Ya stiker UKBA kan tidak harus dipindahkan ke paspor
> >> baru, so
> >> >> > ya
> >> >> > > > >> selalu
> >> >> > > > >> >> ada
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>di paspor lama... (teori lho ya ini :-))
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>--
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>Perry Ismangil
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>me.ismangil.com
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>On 31 Jan 2013 15:32, "Kristanti TREPIN" <
> >> >> kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >> > > > wrote:
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> Iseng saja nih saya nanya,
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> Kalo sudah punya passport merah/biru (apapun yang tdk
> >> hijau
> >> >> > dan
> >> >> > > > >> >> berlambang
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> garuda), waktu passport di KBRI apakah petugas tidak
> >> cek
> >> >> > atau
> >> >> > > > tanya
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> visa/permit to stay di UK? karena biasanya
> visa/permit
> >> to
> >> >> > stay
> >> >> > > di
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> UK attached di passport?
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> Terima kasih
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> Salam,
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> Kristanti
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Eko Kurniawan <
> >> >> > > > >> ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> >wrote:
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > mungkin perlu naturalisasi lagi jadi WNI :)
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> >
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> >
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> >
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >________________________________
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > > From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:26 AM
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency |
> New
> >> Life
> >> >> > in
> >> >> > > > the
> >> >> > > > >> UK
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > handbook published today
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >Kalaupun terjadi, ada amnesti ngga ya untuk yang
> >> >> > 'terlanjur'
> >> >> > > > >> punya
> >> >> > > > >> >> dua
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > paspor :)
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >On 31 January 2013 09:52, Bagus Prakoso <
> >> >> > > brajamusti-***@public.gmane.org
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > >> >> wrote:
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >> I don't think it's gonna happen very soon. It
> >> would
> >> >> be
> >> >> > a
> >> >> > > > >> miracle.
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > IMHO.
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >> Chris
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM, <
> >> >> > kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >> > > > >> wrote:
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> Perkembangan wacana dual nationalities masuk di
> >> UU
> >> >> > > > >> >> Kewarganegaraan
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> apa
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> kabarnya ya?
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> ------------------
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:48:42
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di
> UK
> >> <
> >> >> > > > >> >> uk-***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency |
> >> New
> >> >> Life
> >> >> > > in
> >> >> > > > >> the UK
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> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
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[Andreas]

Pak Eko

Setahu saya kalaupun sudah punya ILR tetap aja harus apply visa kalau ke schegen countries.
kecuali kalau sduah punya Passport Burgundy.

ILR BRP tentunya setara dengen ILR. Apa betul dengan BRP ILR bisa ke Prancis tanpa perlu visa ???





>________________________________
> From: Aryati Rainier <aryarainier-***@public.gmane.org>
>To: Adi <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, 5 February 2013, 17:35
>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK handbook published today
>
>Saya pakai ILR BRP ke prancis dan belgia pakai mobil tidak perlu
>visa..selama pergi sama suami dan bukan lewat pesawat, passport masih ijo,
>ilr hilang beberapa bln lalu reapply nya dapat 2 minggu kemudian biaya £37.
>On 4 Feb 2013 16:56, "Eko Kurniawan" <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
>> saya punya BRP ILR
>>
>> BRP card harus di renew tiap 10 tahun (utk ganti foto spt di SIM).
>>
>> Anak saya dapetnya 5 tahun, karena tentunya wajah anak berubah cepat.
>>
>>
>>
>> >________________________________
>> > From: Agung Mandala <agung.mandala-***@public.gmane.org>
>> >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>> >Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 9:44 PM
>> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
>> handbook published today
>> >
>> >Iya pak, mudah2an begitu, nanti kalo ada yg udah punya BRP card dari ILTR,
>> >mohon di share ya..
>> >Trus pertanyaan berikutnya apa BRP ini nanti cukup untuk apply visa eropa,
>> >kadang mereka minta visa di passport baru.
>> >
>> >Salam,
>> >Agung
>> >
>> >
>> >2013/2/3 Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>> >
>> >> No, the link clearly states you can use form NTL to transfer passport
>> ILTR
>> >> to BRP card.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Perry Ismangil
>> >> me.ismangil.com
>> >>  On 3 Feb 2013 10:56, "Agung Mandala" <agung.mandala-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > CMIIW, kalo baca lagi kok BRP (and only BRP) itu kalo sebelumnya punya
>> >> > limited leave to remain. tapi kalo punya ILTR, tetep hrs punya ILTR di
>> >> > passport + BRP. Terus juga masih ada servis transfer ILTR ke passport
>> >> baru,
>> >> > kalo ILTR selalu bisa jadi BRP, apa gunanya transfer visa dong?
>> >> >
>> >> > Salam,
>> >> > Agung
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > 2013/2/2 Kristanti TREPIN <kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org>
>> >> >
>> >> > > Bang Eddy, ILR lama bisa ditransfer ke BRP, tapi ada biayanya, dan
>> >> kalau
>> >> > > tidak salah 220 GBP, keterangan lengkap ada di website UKBA ttg ini.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/visas-immigration/while-in-uk/transfer-visa-to-passport/
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Salam,
>> >> > > Kristanti
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > 2013/2/1 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
>> >> > >
>> >> > > > yang apply ILR sejak Feb 2012 sudah gak dapet stamp di pasport
>> lagi,
>> >> > tapi
>> >> > > > dikasih kartu BRP.  Jadi sudah bagian dari proses aplikasi ILR itu
>> >> > > sendiri.
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > > >________________________________
>> >> > > > > From: Eddy Manurung <eddy.manurung-***@public.gmane.org>
>> >> > > > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>> >> > > > >Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 12:48 PM
>> >> > > > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
>> >> > > > handbook published today
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >Makasih Mas Eko.
>> >> > > > >Gimana utk mndapatkan BRP card itu?
>> >> > > > >Tanks.
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >2013/2/1 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >> Biometric Residence Permit - semacam ID card.
>> >> > > > >>
>> >> > > > >>
>> >> > > > >>
>> >> > > > >>
>> >> > > > >>
>> >> > > > >> >________________________________
>> >> > > > >> > From: Eddy Manurung <eddy.manurung-***@public.gmane.org>
>> >> > > > >> >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>> >> > > > >> >Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 3:13 AM
>> >> > > > >> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in
>> the UK
>> >> > > > >> handbook published today
>> >> > > > >> >
>> >> > > > >> >Mas Eko, maksudnya apa BRP Card itu?
>> >> > > > >> >Thanks
>> >> > > > >> >
>> >> > > > >> >
>> >> > > > >> >2013/1/31 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
>> >> > > > >> >
>> >> > > > >> >> kalo sekarang ILR dapetnya BRP card
>> >> > > > >> >>
>> >> > > > >> >>
>> >> > > > >> >>
>> >> > > > >> >> >________________________________
>> >> > > > >> >> > From: Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
>> >> > > > >> >> >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>> >> > > > >> >> >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:32 PM
>> >> > > > >> >> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in
>> the
>> >> > UK
>> >> > > > >> >> handbook published today
>> >> > > > >> >> >
>> >> > > > >> >> >UKBA tidak menganjurkan  stiker ILR di pindahkan ke
>> passport
>> >> > > baru..
>> >> > > > >> >> >
>> >> > > > >> >> >Lagi pula harus bayar untuk hal yang tidak perlu dan tidak
>> >> > > > dianjurkan.
>> >> > > > >> >> >
>> >> > > > >> >> >Jadi seperti kata pak Perry,  tidak perlu Minta stiker baru
>> >> > untuk
>> >> > > > >> >> dipindahkan ke Passport ynag baru.
>> >> > > > >> >> >
>> >> > > > >> >> >Jadi teorinya IILR nya nempel di passport ynag lama
>> sekalipun
>> >> > > > passport
>> >> > > > >> >> sudah diganti 3 atau 4 kali, ILR  nya tetap saja berlaku di
>> >> > > passport
>> >> > > > >> ynag
>> >> > > > >> >> lama.  Ini hanya teori saja lho ya
>> >> > > > >> >> >
>> >> > > > >> >> >Barangkali rekan rekan yang lain ingin menambahkan.
>> terutama
>> >> > > apakah
>> >> > > > >> >> perlunay memindahkan stikernya ke passport
>> >> > > > >> >> >
>> >> > > > >> >> >
>> >> > > > >> >> >
>> >> > > > >> >> >
>> >> > > > >> >> >
>> >> > > > >> >> >
>> >> > > > >> >> >
>> >> > > > >> >> >
>> >> > > > >> >> >
>> >> > > > >> >> >>________________________________
>> >> > > > >> >> >> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>To: Adi <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 15:36
>> >> > > > >> >> >>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in
>> >> the
>> >> > UK
>> >> > > > >> >> handbook published today
>> >> > > > >> >> >>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>Ya stiker UKBA kan tidak harus dipindahkan ke paspor
>> baru, so
>> >> > ya
>> >> > > > >> selalu
>> >> > > > >> >> ada
>> >> > > > >> >> >>di paspor lama... (teori lho ya ini :-))
>> >> > > > >> >> >>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>--
>> >> > > > >> >> >>Perry Ismangil
>> >> > > > >> >> >>me.ismangil.com
>> >> > > > >> >> >>On 31 Jan 2013 15:32, "Kristanti TREPIN" <
>> >> kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org>
>> >> > > > wrote:
>> >> > > > >> >> >>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> Iseng saja nih saya nanya,
>> >> > > > >> >> >>>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> Kalo sudah punya passport merah/biru (apapun yang tdk
>> hijau
>> >> > dan
>> >> > > > >> >> berlambang
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> garuda), waktu  passport di KBRI apakah petugas tidak
>> cek
>> >> > atau
>> >> > > > tanya
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> visa/permit to stay di UK? karena biasanya visa/permit
>> to
>> >> > stay
>> >> > > di
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> UK attached di passport?
>> >> > > > >> >> >>>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> Terima kasih
>> >> > > > >> >> >>>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> Salam,
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> Kristanti
>> >> > > > >> >> >>>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Eko Kurniawan <
>> >> > > > >> ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> >wrote:
>> >> > > > >> >> >>>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > mungkin perlu naturalisasi lagi jadi WNI :)
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> >
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> >
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> >
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >________________________________
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > > From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:26 AM
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> >  >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New
>> Life
>> >> > in
>> >> > > > the
>> >> > > > >> UK
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > handbook published today
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >Kalaupun terjadi, ada amnesti ngga ya untuk yang
>> >> > 'terlanjur'
>> >> > > > >> punya
>> >> > > > >> >> dua
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > paspor :)
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >On 31 January 2013 09:52, Bagus Prakoso <
>> >> > > brajamusti-***@public.gmane.org
>> >> > > > >
>> >> > > > >> >> wrote:
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >> I don't think it's gonna happen very soon.  It
>> would
>> >> be
>> >> > a
>> >> > > > >> miracle.
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > IMHO.
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >> Chris
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM, <
>> >> > kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
>> >> > > > >> wrote:
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> Perkembangan wacana dual nationalities masuk di UU
>> >> > > > >> >> Kewarganegaraan
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> apa
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> kabarnya ya?
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> ------------------
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:48:42
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <
>> >> > > > >> >> uk-***@public.gmane.org>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New
>> >> Life
>> >> > > in
>> >> > > > >> the UK
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > handbook
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>  published today
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> 2013/1/31 Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>:
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> >
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> > Kalau citizenship barangakali masih perlu di
>> >> timbang
>> >> > > > karena
>> >> > > > >> >> samapi
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > saaat
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> ini RI tidak mengakui dual citizenhip untuk orang
>> >> > dewasa
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> >
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> Ya dengan sanksi berat sekali yaitu cabut WNI :P
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> --
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> Perry Ismangil
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
>> >> > > > >>
>> _________________________________________________________________
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>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >
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>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >Perry Ismangil
>> >> > > > >> >> >>> >
>> >> > > > >_________________________________________________________________
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>> >> please
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>> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >
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[Aryati Rainier]

Betul pak..karena saya sudah coba sendiri dan beberapa teman saya juga
mencobanya baik lewat Calais maupun dg Eurostar, ini berlaku untuk pemegang
ILR BRP yg mempunyai british spouse dan traveling bersama spouse. Sebulan
sesudahnya saya harus apply visa schengen karena kali harus travel sendiri
( menyusul tanpa spouse dan kali ini dg pesawat jadi harus ( lebih baik
dari pada tertahan diimmigrasi dan tertinggal pesawat ) apply visa. Tidak
semua negara memberlakukan ini seperti Norwegia. Jadi sebaiknya di check
terlebih dahulu ..tapi untuk prancis dan belgia saya bisa menyarankan tanpa
visa.
On 5 Feb 2013 20:12, "Andreas" <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> Pak Eko
>
> Setahu saya kalaupun sudah punya ILR tetap aja harus apply visa kalau ke
> schegen countries.
> kecuali kalau sduah punya Passport Burgundy.
>
> ILR BRP tentunya setara dengen ILR. Apa betul dengan BRP ILR bisa ke
> Prancis tanpa perlu visa ???
>
>
>
>
>
> >________________________________
> > From: Aryati Rainier <aryarainier-***@public.gmane.org>
> >To: Adi <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
> >Sent: Tuesday, 5 February 2013, 17:35
> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> handbook published today
> >
> >Saya pakai ILR BRP ke prancis dan belgia pakai mobil tidak perlu
> >visa..selama pergi sama suami dan bukan lewat pesawat, passport masih ijo,
> >ilr hilang beberapa bln lalu reapply nya dapat 2 minggu kemudian biaya
> £37.
> >On 4 Feb 2013 16:56, "Eko Kurniawan" <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >
> >> saya punya BRP ILR
> >>
> >> BRP card harus di renew tiap 10 tahun (utk ganti foto spt di SIM).
> >>
> >> Anak saya dapetnya 5 tahun, karena tentunya wajah anak berubah cepat.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >________________________________
> >> > From: Agung Mandala <agung.mandala-***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> >> >Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 9:44 PM
> >> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> >> handbook published today
> >> >
> >> >Iya pak, mudah2an begitu, nanti kalo ada yg udah punya BRP card dari
> ILTR,
> >> >mohon di share ya..
> >> >Trus pertanyaan berikutnya apa BRP ini nanti cukup untuk apply visa
> eropa,
> >> >kadang mereka minta visa di passport baru.
> >> >
> >> >Salam,
> >> >Agung
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >2013/2/3 Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >
> >> >> No, the link clearly states you can use form NTL to transfer passport
> >> ILTR
> >> >> to BRP card.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Perry Ismangil
> >> >> me.ismangil.com
> >> >> On 3 Feb 2013 10:56, "Agung Mandala" <agung.mandala-***@public.gmane.org>
> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > CMIIW, kalo baca lagi kok BRP (and only BRP) itu kalo sebelumnya
> punya
> >> >> > limited leave to remain. tapi kalo punya ILTR, tetep hrs punya
> ILTR di
> >> >> > passport + BRP. Terus juga masih ada servis transfer ILTR ke
> passport
> >> >> baru,
> >> >> > kalo ILTR selalu bisa jadi BRP, apa gunanya transfer visa dong?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Salam,
> >> >> > Agung
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > 2013/2/2 Kristanti TREPIN <kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > > Bang Eddy, ILR lama bisa ditransfer ke BRP, tapi ada biayanya,
> dan
> >> >> kalau
> >> >> > > tidak salah 220 GBP, keterangan lengkap ada di website UKBA ttg
> ini.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >>
> http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/visas-immigration/while-in-uk/transfer-visa-to-passport/
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Salam,
> >> >> > > Kristanti
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > 2013/2/1 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > > yang apply ILR sejak Feb 2012 sudah gak dapet stamp di pasport
> >> lagi,
> >> >> > tapi
> >> >> > > > dikasih kartu BRP. Jadi sudah bagian dari proses aplikasi ILR
> itu
> >> >> > > sendiri.
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > >________________________________
> >> >> > > > > From: Eddy Manurung <eddy.manurung-***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >> > > > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> >> >> > > > >Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 12:48 PM
> >> >> > > > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in
> the UK
> >> >> > > > handbook published today
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > >Makasih Mas Eko.
> >> >> > > > >Gimana utk mndapatkan BRP card itu?
> >> >> > > > >Tanks.
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > >2013/2/1 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > >> Biometric Residence Permit - semacam ID card.
> >> >> > > > >>
> >> >> > > > >>
> >> >> > > > >>
> >> >> > > > >>
> >> >> > > > >>
> >> >> > > > >> >________________________________
> >> >> > > > >> > From: Eddy Manurung <eddy.manurung-***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >> > > > >> >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> >> >> > > > >> >Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 3:13 AM
> >> >> > > > >> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in
> >> the UK
> >> >> > > > >> handbook published today
> >> >> > > > >> >
> >> >> > > > >> >Mas Eko, maksudnya apa BRP Card itu?
> >> >> > > > >> >Thanks
> >> >> > > > >> >
> >> >> > > > >> >
> >> >> > > > >> >2013/1/31 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >> > > > >> >
> >> >> > > > >> >> kalo sekarang ILR dapetnya BRP card
> >> >> > > > >> >>
> >> >> > > > >> >>
> >> >> > > > >> >>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >________________________________
> >> >> > > > >> >> > From: Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> >> >> > > > >> >> >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:32 PM
> >> >> > > > >> >> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life
> in
> >> the
> >> >> > UK
> >> >> > > > >> >> handbook published today
> >> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> >> > > > >> >> >UKBA tidak menganjurkan stiker ILR di pindahkan ke
> >> passport
> >> >> > > baru..
> >> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> >> > > > >> >> >Lagi pula harus bayar untuk hal yang tidak perlu dan
> tidak
> >> >> > > > dianjurkan.
> >> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> >> > > > >> >> >Jadi seperti kata pak Perry, tidak perlu Minta stiker
> baru
> >> >> > untuk
> >> >> > > > >> >> dipindahkan ke Passport ynag baru.
> >> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> >> > > > >> >> >Jadi teorinya IILR nya nempel di passport ynag lama
> >> sekalipun
> >> >> > > > passport
> >> >> > > > >> >> sudah diganti 3 atau 4 kali, ILR nya tetap saja berlaku
> di
> >> >> > > passport
> >> >> > > > >> ynag
> >> >> > > > >> >> lama. Ini hanya teori saja lho ya
> >> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> >> > > > >> >> >Barangkali rekan rekan yang lain ingin menambahkan.
> >> terutama
> >> >> > > apakah
> >> >> > > > >> >> perlunay memindahkan stikernya ke passport
> >> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>________________________________
> >> >> > > > >> >> >> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>To: Adi <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 15:36
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New
> Life in
> >> >> the
> >> >> > UK
> >> >> > > > >> >> handbook published today
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>Ya stiker UKBA kan tidak harus dipindahkan ke paspor
> >> baru, so
> >> >> > ya
> >> >> > > > >> selalu
> >> >> > > > >> >> ada
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>di paspor lama... (teori lho ya ini :-))
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>--
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>Perry Ismangil
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>me.ismangil.com
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>On 31 Jan 2013 15:32, "Kristanti TREPIN" <
> >> >> kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >> > > > wrote:
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> Iseng saja nih saya nanya,
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> Kalo sudah punya passport merah/biru (apapun yang tdk
> >> hijau
> >> >> > dan
> >> >> > > > >> >> berlambang
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> garuda), waktu passport di KBRI apakah petugas tidak
> >> cek
> >> >> > atau
> >> >> > > > tanya
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> visa/permit to stay di UK? karena biasanya
> visa/permit
> >> to
> >> >> > stay
> >> >> > > di
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> UK attached di passport?
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> Terima kasih
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> Salam,
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> Kristanti
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Eko Kurniawan <
> >> >> > > > >> ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> >wrote:
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > mungkin perlu naturalisasi lagi jadi WNI :)
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> >
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> >
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> >
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >________________________________
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > > From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:26 AM
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency |
> New
> >> Life
> >> >> > in
> >> >> > > > the
> >> >> > > > >> UK
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > handbook published today
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >Kalaupun terjadi, ada amnesti ngga ya untuk yang
> >> >> > 'terlanjur'
> >> >> > > > >> punya
> >> >> > > > >> >> dua
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > paspor :)
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >On 31 January 2013 09:52, Bagus Prakoso <
> >> >> > > brajamusti-***@public.gmane.org
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > >> >> wrote:
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >> I don't think it's gonna happen very soon. It
> >> would
> >> >> be
> >> >> > a
> >> >> > > > >> miracle.
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > IMHO.
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >> Chris
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM, <
> >> >> > kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >> > > > >> wrote:
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> Perkembangan wacana dual nationalities masuk
> di UU
> >> >> > > > >> >> Kewarganegaraan
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> apa
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> kabarnya ya?
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> ------------------
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:48:42
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di
> UK <
> >> >> > > > >> >> uk-***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency |
> New
> >> >> Life
> >> >> > > in
> >> >> > > > >> the UK
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > handbook
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> published today
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> 2013/1/31 Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>:
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> >
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> > Kalau citizenship barangakali masih perlu di
> >> >> timbang
> >> >> > > > karena
> >> >> > > > >> >> samapi
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > saaat
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> ini RI tidak mengakui dual citizenhip untuk
> orang
> >> >> > dewasa
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> >
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> Ya dengan sanksi berat sekali yaitu cabut WNI
> :P
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
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Ataukah memang sudah ada tertulis ...... Kalau sudah tertulis sekurang kurangnya bisa dibuktikan padsa saat ditahan ...





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From: Aryati Rainier <aryarainier-***@public.gmane.org>
To: hartungi <r_hartungi-/***@public.gmane.org>
Sent: Tuesday, 5 February 2013, 20:25
Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK handbook published today

Betul pak..karena saya sudah coba sendiri dan beberapa teman saya juga
mencobanya baik lewat Calais maupun dg Eurostar, ini berlaku untuk pemegang
ILR BRP yg mempunyai british spouse dan traveling bersama spouse. Sebulan
sesudahnya saya harus apply visa schengen karena kali harus travel sendiri
( menyusul tanpa spouse dan kali ini dg pesawat jadi harus ( lebih baik
dari pada tertahan diimmigrasi dan tertinggal pesawat ) apply visa. Tidak
semua negara memberlakukan ini seperti Norwegia. Jadi sebaiknya di check
terlebih dahulu ..tapi untuk prancis dan belgia saya bisa menyarankan tanpa
visa.
On 5 Feb 2013 20:12, "Andreas" <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> Pak Eko
>
> Setahu saya kalaupun sudah punya ILR tetap aja harus apply visa kalau ke
> schegen countries.
> kecuali kalau sduah punya Passport Burgundy.
>
> ILR BRP tentunya setara dengen ILR. Apa betul dengan BRP ILR bisa ke
> Prancis tanpa perlu visa ???
>
>
>
>
>
> >________________________________
> > From: Aryati Rainier <aryarainier-***@public.gmane.org>
> >To: Adi <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
> >Sent: Tuesday, 5 February 2013, 17:35
> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> handbook published today
> >
> >Saya pakai ILR BRP ke prancis dan belgia pakai mobil tidak perlu
> >visa..selama pergi sama suami dan bukan lewat pesawat, passport masih ijo,
> >ilr hilang beberapa bln lalu reapply nya dapat 2 minggu kemudian biaya
> £37.
> >On 4 Feb 2013 16:56, "Eko Kurniawan" <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >
> >> saya punya BRP ILR
> >>
> >> BRP card harus di renew tiap 10 tahun (utk ganti foto spt di SIM).
> >>
> >> Anak saya dapetnya 5 tahun, karena tentunya wajah anak berubah cepat.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> >________________________________
> >> > From: Agung Mandala <agung.mandala-***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> >> >Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 9:44 PM
> >> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> >> handbook published today
> >> >
> >> >Iya pak, mudah2an begitu, nanti kalo ada yg udah punya BRP card dari
> ILTR,
> >> >mohon di share ya..
> >> >Trus pertanyaan berikutnya apa BRP ini nanti cukup untuk apply visa
> eropa,
> >> >kadang mereka minta visa di passport baru.
> >> >
> >> >Salam,
> >> >Agung
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >2013/2/3 Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >
> >> >> No, the link clearly states you can use form NTL to transfer passport
> >> ILTR
> >> >> to BRP card.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Perry Ismangil
> >> >> me.ismangil.com
> >> >>  On 3 Feb 2013 10:56, "Agung Mandala" <agung.mandala-***@public.gmane.org>
> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > CMIIW, kalo baca lagi kok BRP (and only BRP) itu kalo sebelumnya
> punya
> >> >> > limited leave to remain. tapi kalo punya ILTR, tetep hrs punya
> ILTR di
> >> >> > passport + BRP. Terus juga masih ada servis transfer ILTR ke
> passport
> >> >> baru,
> >> >> > kalo ILTR selalu bisa jadi BRP, apa gunanya transfer visa dong?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Salam,
> >> >> > Agung
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > 2013/2/2 Kristanti TREPIN <kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > > Bang Eddy, ILR lama bisa ditransfer ke BRP, tapi ada biayanya,
> dan
> >> >> kalau
> >> >> > > tidak salah 220 GBP, keterangan lengkap ada di website UKBA ttg
> ini.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >>
> http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/visas-immigration/while-in-uk/transfer-visa-to-passport/
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Salam,
> >> >> > > Kristanti
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > 2013/2/1 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > > yang apply ILR sejak Feb 2012 sudah gak dapet stamp di pasport
> >> lagi,
> >> >> > tapi
> >> >> > > > dikasih kartu BRP.  Jadi sudah bagian dari proses aplikasi ILR
> itu
> >> >> > > sendiri.
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > >
> >> >> > > > >________________________________
> >> >> > > > > From: Eddy Manurung <eddy.manurung-***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >> > > > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> >> >> > > > >Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 12:48 PM
> >> >> > > > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in
> the UK
> >> >> > > > handbook published today
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > >Makasih Mas Eko.
> >> >> > > > >Gimana utk mndapatkan BRP card itu?
> >> >> > > > >Tanks.
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > >2013/2/1 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > >> Biometric Residence Permit - semacam ID card.
> >> >> > > > >>
> >> >> > > > >>
> >> >> > > > >>
> >> >> > > > >>
> >> >> > > > >>
> >> >> > > > >> >________________________________
> >> >> > > > >> > From: Eddy Manurung <eddy.manurung-***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >> > > > >> >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> >> >> > > > >> >Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 3:13 AM
> >> >> > > > >> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in
> >> the UK
> >> >> > > > >> handbook published today
> >> >> > > > >> >
> >> >> > > > >> >Mas Eko, maksudnya apa BRP Card itu?
> >> >> > > > >> >Thanks
> >> >> > > > >> >
> >> >> > > > >> >
> >> >> > > > >> >2013/1/31 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >> > > > >> >
> >> >> > > > >> >> kalo sekarang ILR dapetnya BRP card
> >> >> > > > >> >>
> >> >> > > > >> >>
> >> >> > > > >> >>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >________________________________
> >> >> > > > >> >> > From: Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> >> >> > > > >> >> >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:32 PM
> >> >> > > > >> >> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life
> in
> >> the
> >> >> > UK
> >> >> > > > >> >> handbook published today
> >> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> >> > > > >> >> >UKBA tidak menganjurkan  stiker ILR di pindahkan ke
> >> passport
> >> >> > > baru..
> >> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> >> > > > >> >> >Lagi pula harus bayar untuk hal yang tidak perlu dan
> tidak
> >> >> > > > dianjurkan.
> >> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> >> > > > >> >> >Jadi seperti kata pak Perry,  tidak perlu Minta stiker
> baru
> >> >> > untuk
> >> >> > > > >> >> dipindahkan ke Passport ynag baru.
> >> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> >> > > > >> >> >Jadi teorinya IILR nya nempel di passport ynag lama
> >> sekalipun
> >> >> > > > passport
> >> >> > > > >> >> sudah diganti 3 atau 4 kali, ILR  nya tetap saja berlaku
> di
> >> >> > > passport
> >> >> > > > >> ynag
> >> >> > > > >> >> lama.  Ini hanya teori saja lho ya
> >> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> >> > > > >> >> >Barangkali rekan rekan yang lain ingin menambahkan.
> >> terutama
> >> >> > > apakah
> >> >> > > > >> >> perlunay memindahkan stikernya ke passport
> >> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> >> > > > >> >> >
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>________________________________
> >> >> > > > >> >> >> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>To: Adi <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 15:36
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New
> Life in
> >> >> the
> >> >> > UK
> >> >> > > > >> >> handbook published today
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>Ya stiker UKBA kan tidak harus dipindahkan ke paspor
> >> baru, so
> >> >> > ya
> >> >> > > > >> selalu
> >> >> > > > >> >> ada
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>di paspor lama... (teori lho ya ini :-))
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>--
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>Perry Ismangil
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>me.ismangil.com
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>On 31 Jan 2013 15:32, "Kristanti TREPIN" <
> >> >> kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >> > > > wrote:
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> Iseng saja nih saya nanya,
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> Kalo sudah punya passport merah/biru (apapun yang tdk
> >> hijau
> >> >> > dan
> >> >> > > > >> >> berlambang
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> garuda), waktu  passport di KBRI apakah petugas tidak
> >> cek
> >> >> > atau
> >> >> > > > tanya
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> visa/permit to stay di UK? karena biasanya
> visa/permit
> >> to
> >> >> > stay
> >> >> > > di
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> UK attached di passport?
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> Terima kasih
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> Salam,
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> Kristanti
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Eko Kurniawan <
> >> >> > > > >> ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> >wrote:
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > mungkin perlu naturalisasi lagi jadi WNI :)
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> >
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> >
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> >
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >________________________________
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > > From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:26 AM
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> >  >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency |
> New
> >> Life
> >> >> > in
> >> >> > > > the
> >> >> > > > >> UK
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > handbook published today
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >Kalaupun terjadi, ada amnesti ngga ya untuk yang
> >> >> > 'terlanjur'
> >> >> > > > >> punya
> >> >> > > > >> >> dua
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > paspor :)
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >On 31 January 2013 09:52, Bagus Prakoso <
> >> >> > > brajamusti-***@public.gmane.org
> >> >> > > > >
> >> >> > > > >> >> wrote:
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >> I don't think it's gonna happen very soon.  It
> >> would
> >> >> be
> >> >> > a
> >> >> > > > >> miracle.
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > IMHO.
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >> Chris
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM, <
> >> >> > kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >> > > > >> wrote:
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> Perkembangan wacana dual nationalities masuk
> di UU
> >> >> > > > >> >> Kewarganegaraan
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> apa
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> kabarnya ya?
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> ------------------
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:48:42
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di
> UK <
> >> >> > > > >> >> uk-***@public.gmane.org>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency |
> New
> >> >> Life
> >> >> > > in
> >> >> > > > >> the UK
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > handbook
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>  published today
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> 2013/1/31 Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>:
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> >
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> > Kalau citizenship barangakali masih perlu di
> >> >> timbang
> >> >> > > > karena
> >> >> > > > >> >> samapi
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > saaat
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> ini RI tidak mengakui dual citizenhip untuk
> orang
> >> >> > dewasa
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> >
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> Ya dengan sanksi berat sekali yaitu cabut WNI
> :P
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> --
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[Aryati Rainier]

Ada pak yg jadi pegangan Directives 2004/38/EC tentang EU free movement,
memang terkadang banyak petugas dilapangan masih bingung dan akan minta
pendapat atasannya. Tidak ada salahnya juga membawa print dari directive
ini, surat nikah ( jika blm menambahkan nama spouse ).
Kalau melalui udara seringkali pihak airlines yg minta visa..jadi ya apply
schangen visa saja kalau mau lewat udara..tokh gratis ini.
On 5 Feb 2013 23:00, "Rusdy Hartungi" <r_hartungi-/***@public.gmane.org> wrote:

>
>
> Terima kasih atas informasinya.
> Apakah ini tidak tergantung dari petugasnya ???
> Ataukah memang sudah ada tertulis ...... Kalau sudah tertulis sekurang
> kurangnya bisa dibuktikan padsa saat ditahan ...
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Aryati Rainier <aryarainier-***@public.gmane.org>
> To: hartungi <r_hartungi-/***@public.gmane.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, 5 February 2013, 20:25
> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK handbook
> published today
>
> Betul pak..karena saya sudah coba sendiri dan beberapa teman saya juga
> mencobanya baik lewat Calais maupun dg Eurostar, ini berlaku untuk pemegang
> ILR BRP yg mempunyai british spouse dan traveling bersama spouse. Sebulan
> sesudahnya saya harus apply visa schengen karena kali harus travel sendiri
> ( menyusul tanpa spouse dan kali ini dg pesawat jadi harus ( lebih baik
> dari pada tertahan diimmigrasi dan tertinggal pesawat ) apply visa. Tidak
> semua negara memberlakukan ini seperti Norwegia. Jadi sebaiknya di check
> terlebih dahulu ..tapi untuk prancis dan belgia saya bisa menyarankan tanpa
> visa.
> On 5 Feb 2013 20:12, "Andreas" <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> > Pak Eko
> >
> > Setahu saya kalaupun sudah punya ILR tetap aja harus apply visa kalau ke
> > schegen countries.
> > kecuali kalau sduah punya Passport Burgundy.
> >
> > ILR BRP tentunya setara dengen ILR. Apa betul dengan BRP ILR bisa ke
> > Prancis tanpa perlu visa ???
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >________________________________
> > > From: Aryati Rainier <aryarainier-***@public.gmane.org>
> > >To: Adi <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
> > >Sent: Tuesday, 5 February 2013, 17:35
> > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> > handbook published today
> > >
> > >Saya pakai ILR BRP ke prancis dan belgia pakai mobil tidak perlu
> > >visa..selama pergi sama suami dan bukan lewat pesawat, passport masih
> ijo,
> > >ilr hilang beberapa bln lalu reapply nya dapat 2 minggu kemudian biaya
> > £37.
> > >On 4 Feb 2013 16:56, "Eko Kurniawan" <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > >
> > >> saya punya BRP ILR
> > >>
> > >> BRP card harus di renew tiap 10 tahun (utk ganti foto spt di SIM).
> > >>
> > >> Anak saya dapetnya 5 tahun, karena tentunya wajah anak berubah cepat.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> >________________________________
> > >> > From: Agung Mandala <agung.mandala-***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> > >> >Sent: Sunday, February 3, 2013 9:44 PM
> > >> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> > >> handbook published today
> > >> >
> > >> >Iya pak, mudah2an begitu, nanti kalo ada yg udah punya BRP card dari
> > ILTR,
> > >> >mohon di share ya..
> > >> >Trus pertanyaan berikutnya apa BRP ini nanti cukup untuk apply visa
> > eropa,
> > >> >kadang mereka minta visa di passport baru.
> > >> >
> > >> >Salam,
> > >> >Agung
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >2013/2/3 Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> >
> > >> >> No, the link clearly states you can use form NTL to transfer
> passport
> > >> ILTR
> > >> >> to BRP card.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> --
> > >> >> Perry Ismangil
> > >> >> me.ismangil.com
> > >> >> On 3 Feb 2013 10:56, "Agung Mandala" <agung.mandala-***@public.gmane.org>
> > wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > CMIIW, kalo baca lagi kok BRP (and only BRP) itu kalo sebelumnya
> > punya
> > >> >> > limited leave to remain. tapi kalo punya ILTR, tetep hrs punya
> > ILTR di
> > >> >> > passport + BRP. Terus juga masih ada servis transfer ILTR ke
> > passport
> > >> >> baru,
> > >> >> > kalo ILTR selalu bisa jadi BRP, apa gunanya transfer visa dong?
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Salam,
> > >> >> > Agung
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > 2013/2/2 Kristanti TREPIN <kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > > Bang Eddy, ILR lama bisa ditransfer ke BRP, tapi ada biayanya,
> > dan
> > >> >> kalau
> > >> >> > > tidak salah 220 GBP, keterangan lengkap ada di website UKBA ttg
> > ini.
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >>
> > >>
> >
> http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/visas-immigration/while-in-uk/transfer-visa-to-passport/
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > Salam,
> > >> >> > > Kristanti
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > 2013/2/1 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >> > > > yang apply ILR sejak Feb 2012 sudah gak dapet stamp di
> pasport
> > >> lagi,
> > >> >> > tapi
> > >> >> > > > dikasih kartu BRP. Jadi sudah bagian dari proses aplikasi
> ILR
> > itu
> > >> >> > > sendiri.
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > > > >________________________________
> > >> >> > > > > From: Eddy Manurung <eddy.manurung-***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> >> > > > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> > >> >> > > > >Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 12:48 PM
> > >> >> > > > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in
> > the UK
> > >> >> > > > handbook published today
> > >> >> > > > >
> > >> >> > > > >Makasih Mas Eko.
> > >> >> > > > >Gimana utk mndapatkan BRP card itu?
> > >> >> > > > >Tanks.
> > >> >> > > > >
> > >> >> > > > >
> > >> >> > > > >2013/2/1 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> >> > > > >
> > >> >> > > > >> Biometric Residence Permit - semacam ID card.
> > >> >> > > > >>
> > >> >> > > > >>
> > >> >> > > > >>
> > >> >> > > > >>
> > >> >> > > > >>
> > >> >> > > > >> >________________________________
> > >> >> > > > >> > From: Eddy Manurung <eddy.manurung-***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> >> > > > >> >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> > >> >> > > > >> >Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 3:13 AM
> > >> >> > > > >> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life
> in
> > >> the UK
> > >> >> > > > >> handbook published today
> > >> >> > > > >> >
> > >> >> > > > >> >Mas Eko, maksudnya apa BRP Card itu?
> > >> >> > > > >> >Thanks
> > >> >> > > > >> >
> > >> >> > > > >> >
> > >> >> > > > >> >2013/1/31 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> >> > > > >> >
> > >> >> > > > >> >> kalo sekarang ILR dapetnya BRP card
> > >> >> > > > >> >>
> > >> >> > > > >> >>
> > >> >> > > > >> >>
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >________________________________
> > >> >> > > > >> >> > From: Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:32 PM
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New
> Life
> > in
> > >> the
> > >> >> > UK
> > >> >> > > > >> >> handbook published today
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >UKBA tidak menganjurkan stiker ILR di pindahkan ke
> > >> passport
> > >> >> > > baru..
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >Lagi pula harus bayar untuk hal yang tidak perlu dan
> > tidak
> > >> >> > > > dianjurkan.
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >Jadi seperti kata pak Perry, tidak perlu Minta stiker
> > baru
> > >> >> > untuk
> > >> >> > > > >> >> dipindahkan ke Passport ynag baru.
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >Jadi teorinya IILR nya nempel di passport ynag lama
> > >> sekalipun
> > >> >> > > > passport
> > >> >> > > > >> >> sudah diganti 3 atau 4 kali, ILR nya tetap saja
> berlaku
> > di
> > >> >> > > passport
> > >> >> > > > >> ynag
> > >> >> > > > >> >> lama. Ini hanya teori saja lho ya
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >Barangkali rekan rekan yang lain ingin menambahkan.
> > >> terutama
> > >> >> > > apakah
> > >> >> > > > >> >> perlunay memindahkan stikernya ke passport
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>________________________________
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>To: Adi <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 15:36
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New
> > Life in
> > >> >> the
> > >> >> > UK
> > >> >> > > > >> >> handbook published today
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>Ya stiker UKBA kan tidak harus dipindahkan ke paspor
> > >> baru, so
> > >> >> > ya
> > >> >> > > > >> selalu
> > >> >> > > > >> >> ada
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>di paspor lama... (teori lho ya ini :-))
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>--
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>Perry Ismangil
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>me.ismangil.com
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>On 31 Jan 2013 15:32, "Kristanti TREPIN" <
> > >> >> kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> >> > > > wrote:
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>> Iseng saja nih saya nanya,
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>> Kalo sudah punya passport merah/biru (apapun yang
> tdk
> > >> hijau
> > >> >> > dan
> > >> >> > > > >> >> berlambang
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>> garuda), waktu passport di KBRI apakah petugas
> tidak
> > >> cek
> > >> >> > atau
> > >> >> > > > tanya
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>> visa/permit to stay di UK? karena biasanya
> > visa/permit
> > >> to
> > >> >> > stay
> > >> >> > > di
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>> UK attached di passport?
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>> Terima kasih
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>> Salam,
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>> Kristanti
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Eko Kurniawan <
> > >> >> > > > >> ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>> >wrote:
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > mungkin perlu naturalisasi lagi jadi WNI :)
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>> >
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>> >
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>> >
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >________________________________
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > > From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:26 AM
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency |
> > New
> > >> Life
> > >> >> > in
> > >> >> > > > the
> > >> >> > > > >> UK
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > handbook published today
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >Kalaupun terjadi, ada amnesti ngga ya untuk yang
> > >> >> > 'terlanjur'
> > >> >> > > > >> punya
> > >> >> > > > >> >> dua
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > paspor :)
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >On 31 January 2013 09:52, Bagus Prakoso <
> > >> >> > > brajamusti-***@public.gmane.org
> > >> >> > > > >
> > >> >> > > > >> >> wrote:
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >> I don't think it's gonna happen very soon. It
> > >> would
> > >> >> be
> > >> >> > a
> > >> >> > > > >> miracle.
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > IMHO.
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >> Chris
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM, <
> > >> >> > kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> >> > > > >> wrote:
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> Perkembangan wacana dual nationalities masuk
> > di UU
> > >> >> > > > >> >> Kewarganegaraan
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>> apa
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> kabarnya ya?
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> ------------------
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:48:42
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<
> kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di
> > UK <
> > >> >> > > > >> >> uk-***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency
> |
> > New
> > >> >> Life
> > >> >> > > in
> > >> >> > > > >> the UK
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > handbook
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> published today
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> 2013/1/31 Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>:
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> >
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> > Kalau citizenship barangakali masih perlu
> di
> > >> >> timbang
> > >> >> > > > karena
> > >> >> > > > >> >> samapi
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > saaat
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> ini RI tidak mengakui dual citizenhip untuk
> > orang
> > >> >> > dewasa
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> >
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > >> >> > > > >> >> >>> > >>> Ya dengan sanksi berat sekali yaitu cabut WNI
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[Andreas]

Betul sekali
Saya sudah lihat sendiri tmena yang punya kartu ...
Ngak tahu sejak kapan dimulai





>________________________________
> From: Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
>To: Adi <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
>Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 17:01
>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK handbook published today
>
>kalo sekarang ILR dapetnya BRP card
>
>
>
>>________________________________
>> From: Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
>>To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>>Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:32 PM
>>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK handbook published today
>>
>>UKBA tidak menganjurkan  stiker ILR di pindahkan ke passport baru..
>>
>>Lagi pula harus bayar untuk hal yang tidak perlu dan tidak dianjurkan.
>>
>>Jadi seperti kata pak Perry,  tidak perlu Minta stiker baru untuk dipindahkan ke Passport ynag baru.
>>
>>Jadi teorinya IILR nya nempel di passport ynag lama sekalipun passport sudah diganti 3 atau 4 kali, ILR  nya tetap saja berlaku di passport ynag lama.  Ini hanya teori saja lho ya
>>
>>Barangkali rekan rekan yang lain ingin menambahkan. terutama apakah perlunay memindahkan stikernya ke passport
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>________________________________
>>> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>>>To: Adi <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
>>>Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 15:36
>>>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK handbook published today
>>>
>>>Ya stiker UKBA kan tidak harus dipindahkan ke paspor baru, so ya selalu ada
>>>di paspor lama... (teori lho ya ini :-))
>>>
>>>--
>>>Perry Ismangil
>>>me.ismangil.com
>>>On 31 Jan 2013 15:32, "Kristanti TREPIN" <kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Iseng saja nih saya nanya,
>>>>
>>>> Kalo sudah punya passport merah/biru (apapun yang tdk hijau dan berlambang
>>>> garuda), waktu  passport di KBRI apakah petugas tidak cek atau tanya
>>>> visa/permit to stay di UK? karena biasanya visa/permit to stay di
>>>> UK attached di passport?
>>>>
>>>> Terima kasih
>>>>
>>>> Salam,
>>>> Kristanti
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>>>> >wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > mungkin perlu naturalisasi lagi jadi WNI :)
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > >________________________________
>>>> > > From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>>>> > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>>>> > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:26 AM
>>>> >  >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
>>>> > handbook published today
>>>> > >
>>>> > >Kalaupun terjadi, ada amnesti ngga ya untuk yang 'terlanjur' punya dua
>>>> > paspor :)
>>>> > >
>>>> > >On 31 January 2013 09:52, Bagus Prakoso <brajamusti-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>>> > >> I don't think it's gonna happen very soon.  It would be a miracle.
>>>> > IMHO.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Chris
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM, <kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>> Perkembangan wacana dual nationalities masuk di UU Kewarganegaraan
>>>> apa
>>>> > >>> kabarnya ya?
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> ------------------
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> > >>> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>>>> > >>> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:48:42
>>>> > >>> To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
>>>> > >>> Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <***@indoexpat.org>
>>>> > >>> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
>>>> > handbook
>>>> > >>>  published today
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> 2013/1/31 Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>:
>>>> > >>> >
>>>> > >>> > Kalau citizenship barangakali masih perlu di timbang karena samapi
>>>> > saaat
>>>> > >>> ini RI tidak mengakui dual citizenhip untuk orang dewasa
>>>> > >>> >
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> Ya dengan sanksi berat sekali yaitu cabut WNI :P
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>>
>>>> > >>> --
>>>> > >>> Perry Ismangil
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[Eko Kurniawan]

Sejak jan/feb 2012 kalo nggak salah..



>________________________________
> From: Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
>To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 10:08 AM
>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK handbook published today
>
>Betul sekali
>Saya sudah lihat sendiri tmena yang punya kartu ...
>Ngak tahu sejak kapan dimulai
>
>
>
>
>
>>________________________________
>> From: Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
>>To: Adi <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
>>Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 17:01
>>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK handbook published today
>>
>>kalo sekarang ILR dapetnya BRP card
>>
>>
>>
>>>________________________________
>>> From: Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
>>>To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>>>Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:32 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK handbook published today
>>>
>>>UKBA tidak menganjurkan  stiker ILR di pindahkan ke passport baru..
>>>
>>>Lagi pula harus bayar untuk hal yang tidak perlu dan tidak dianjurkan.
>>>
>>>Jadi seperti kata pak Perry,  tidak perlu Minta stiker baru untuk dipindahkan ke Passport ynag baru.
>>>
>>>Jadi teorinya IILR nya nempel di passport ynag lama sekalipun passport sudah diganti 3 atau 4 kali, ILR  nya tetap saja berlaku di passport ynag lama.  Ini hanya teori saja lho ya
>>>
>>>Barangkali rekan rekan yang lain ingin menambahkan. terutama apakah perlunay memindahkan stikernya ke passport
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>________________________________
>>>> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>>>>To: Adi <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
>>>>Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 15:36
>>>>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK handbook published today
>>>>
>>>>Ya stiker UKBA kan tidak harus dipindahkan ke paspor baru, so ya selalu ada
>>>>di paspor lama... (teori lho ya ini :-))
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Perry Ismangil
>>>>me.ismangil.com
>>>>On 31 Jan 2013 15:32, "Kristanti TREPIN" <kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Iseng saja nih saya nanya,
>>>>>
>>>>> Kalo sudah punya passport merah/biru (apapun yang tdk hijau dan berlambang
>>>>> garuda), waktu  passport di KBRI apakah petugas tidak cek atau tanya
>>>>> visa/permit to stay di UK? karena biasanya visa/permit to stay di
>>>>> UK attached di passport?
>>>>>
>>>>> Terima kasih
>>>>>
>>>>> Salam,
>>>>> Kristanti
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>>>>> >wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > mungkin perlu naturalisasi lagi jadi WNI :)
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >________________________________
>>>>> > > From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>>>>> > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
>>>>> > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:26 AM
>>>>> >  >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
>>>>> > handbook published today
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >Kalaupun terjadi, ada amnesti ngga ya untuk yang 'terlanjur' punya dua
>>>>> > paspor :)
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >On 31 January 2013 09:52, Bagus Prakoso <brajamusti-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>>>> > >> I don't think it's gonna happen very soon.  It would be a miracle.
>>>>> > IMHO.
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> Chris
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM, <kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >>> Perkembangan wacana dual nationalities masuk di UU Kewarganegaraan
>>>>> apa
>>>>> > >>> kabarnya ya?
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>> ------------------
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> > >>> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>>>>> > >>> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:48:42
>>>>> > >>> To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
>>>>> > >>> Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <***@indoexpat.org>
>>>>> > >>> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
>>>>> > handbook
>>>>> > >>>  published today
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>> 2013/1/31 Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>:
>>>>> > >>> >
>>>>> > >>> > Kalau citizenship barangakali masih perlu di timbang karena samapi
>>>>> > saaat
>>>>> > >>> ini RI tidak mengakui dual citizenhip untuk orang dewasa
>>>>> > >>> >
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>> Ya dengan sanksi berat sekali yaitu cabut WNI :P
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>> --
>>>>> > >>> Perry Ismangil
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[Eddy Manurung]

I need that miracle Mas Chris... :)
I have no problem to get Schengen visa as I have been regular applicant at
French Consulate...but it always has uncomfortable experience...


On 31 January 2013 10:52, Bagus Prakoso <brajamusti-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> I don't think it's gonna happen very soon. It would be a miracle. IMHO.
>
> Chris
>
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM, <kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> > Perkembangan wacana dual nationalities masuk di UU Kewarganegaraan apa
> > kabarnya ya?
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> > Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:48:42
> > To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
> > Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <uk-***@public.gmane.org>
> > Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> handbook
> > published today
> >
> > 2013/1/31 Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>:
> > >
> > > Kalau citizenship barangakali masih perlu di timbang karena samapi
> saaat
> > ini RI tidak mengakui dual citizenhip untuk orang dewasa
> > >
> >
> > Ya dengan sanksi berat sekali yaitu cabut WNI :P
> >
> >
> > --
> > Perry Ismangil
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[k***@public.gmane.org]

Kita bawa dalam doa saja Pak EMan...

Semoga dengan semakin majunya ekonomi Indonesia, WNI bisa bebas visa ke negara2x 'maju' (baca EU, US, dll)

Apply schengen visa itu bikin males bener...
Musti cuti, anak2x bolos sekolah, naek tube pagi2x antri ke embassy...


------------------

-----Original Message-----
From: Eddy Manurung <eddy.manurung-***@public.gmane.org>
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 04:09:13
To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <uk-***@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK handbook
published today

I need that miracle Mas Chris... :)
I have no problem to get Schengen visa as I have been regular applicant at
French Consulate...but it always has uncomfortable experience...


On 31 January 2013 10:52, Bagus Prakoso <brajamusti-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> I don't think it's gonna happen very soon. It would be a miracle. IMHO.
>
> Chris
>
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM, <kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> > Perkembangan wacana dual nationalities masuk di UU Kewarganegaraan apa
> > kabarnya ya?
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> > Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:48:42
> > To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
> > Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <uk-***@public.gmane.org>
> > Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> handbook
> > published today
> >
> > 2013/1/31 Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>:
> > >
> > > Kalau citizenship barangakali masih perlu di timbang karena samapi
> saaat
> > ini RI tidak mengakui dual citizenhip untuk orang dewasa
> > >
> >
> > Ya dengan sanksi berat sekali yaitu cabut WNI :P
> >
> >
> > --
> > Perry Ismangil
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[Perry Ismangil]

Jadi kalau cuma civil disobedience sedikit, dengan "kucing2an", worth it ga
:-D

--
Perry Ismangil
me.ismangil.com
On 1 Feb 2013 07:34, <kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> Kita bawa dalam doa saja Pak EMan...
>
> Semoga dengan semakin majunya ekonomi Indonesia, WNI bisa bebas visa ke
> negara2x 'maju' (baca EU, US, dll)
>
> Apply schengen visa itu bikin males bener...
> Musti cuti, anak2x bolos sekolah, naek tube pagi2x antri ke embassy...
>
>
> ------------------
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eddy Manurung <eddy.manurung-***@public.gmane.org>
> Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 04:09:13
> To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
> Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <uk-***@public.gmane.org>
> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK handbook
> published today
>
> I need that miracle Mas Chris... :)
> I have no problem to get Schengen visa as I have been regular applicant at
> French Consulate...but it always has uncomfortable experience...
>
>
> On 31 January 2013 10:52, Bagus Prakoso <brajamusti-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> > I don't think it's gonna happen very soon. It would be a miracle. IMHO.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM, <kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Perkembangan wacana dual nationalities masuk di UU Kewarganegaraan apa
> > > kabarnya ya?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> > > Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:48:42
> > > To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
> > > Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <uk-***@public.gmane.org>
> > > Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> > handbook
> > > published today
> > >
> > > 2013/1/31 Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>:
> > > >
> > > > Kalau citizenship barangakali masih perlu di timbang karena samapi
> > saaat
> > > ini RI tidak mengakui dual citizenhip untuk orang dewasa
> > > >
> > >
> > > Ya dengan sanksi berat sekali yaitu cabut WNI :P
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Perry Ismangil
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[Andreas]

Bayangin aja kalau tinggalnya di Utara, sperti di Scotland, North Westt,
Biaya: Traiin _+ Tube untuk seluruh kluarga, Visa PPlication untul seluruh keluarga
Waktu: Harus Buat appoinment 1 bulan sebelumnya lewat Mesin

Waktu buat applikasi: Harus datang sendiri untuk interview.

korban perasaan:
- Waktu antri interview; Maklumlah, krn perbuatan saudara saudara setanah air, kita sudah  termasuk kategori negara teroris. Masih belum makmur.
- Waktu antri masuk negara tujuanm: Masuk jalur lambat  interview lagi
Waktumasuk kembali: Masuk jalur lambat  interview lagi
Tambain deh sendiri berdasarkan pengalaman pribadi ....





>________________________________
> From: "kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org" <kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
>To: Adi <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
>Sent: Friday, 1 February 2013, 7:34
>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK handbook published today
>
>Kita bawa dalam doa saja Pak EMan...
>
>Semoga dengan semakin majunya ekonomi Indonesia, WNI bisa bebas visa ke negara2x 'maju' (baca EU, US, dll)
>
>Apply schengen visa itu bikin males bener...
>Musti cuti, anak2x bolos sekolah, naek tube pagi2x antri ke embassy...
>
>
>------------------
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Eddy Manurung <eddy.manurung-***@public.gmane.org>
>Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 04:09:13
>To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
>Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <uk-***@public.gmane.org>
>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK handbook
>published today
>
>I need that miracle Mas Chris... :)
>I have no problem to get Schengen visa as I have been regular applicant at
>French Consulate...but it always has uncomfortable experience...
>
>
>On 31 January 2013 10:52, Bagus Prakoso <brajamusti-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
>> I don't think it's gonna happen very soon.  It would be a miracle.  IMHO.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM, <kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>
>> > Perkembangan wacana dual nationalities masuk di UU Kewarganegaraan apa
>> > kabarnya ya?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>> > Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:48:42
>> > To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
>> > Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <uk-***@public.gmane.org>
>> > Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
>> handbook
>> >  published today
>> >
>> > 2013/1/31 Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>:
>> > >
>> > > Kalau citizenship barangakali masih perlu di timbang karena samapi
>> saaat
>> > ini RI tidak mengakui dual citizenhip untuk orang dewasa
>> > >
>> >
>> > Ya dengan sanksi berat sekali yaitu cabut WNI :P
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Perry Ismangil
>> > _________________________________________________________________
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[d***@public.gmane.org]

Pak, bagaimana kalo diusahakan lewat Belgium embassy?

Itu setau saya first application mudah. Berikutnya bisa via post kirim nya.

Worth trying apa sama aja kira2?


Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone on O2

-----Original Message-----
From: Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 08:41:02
To: djati<djati.hs-***@public.gmane.org>
Reply-To: Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>,
Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <uk-***@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK handbook
published today



Bayangin aja kalau tinggalnya di Utara, sperti di Scotland, North Westt,
Biaya: Traiin _+ Tube untuk seluruh kluarga, Visa PPlication untul seluruh keluarga
Waktu: Harus Buat appoinment 1 bulan sebelumnya lewat Mesin

Waktu buat applikasi: Harus datang sendiri untuk interview.

korban perasaan:
- Waktu antri interview; Maklumlah, krn perbuatan saudara saudara setanah air, kita sudah  termasuk kategori negara teroris. Masih belum makmur.
- Waktu antri masuk negara tujuanm: Masuk jalur lambat  interview lagi
Waktumasuk kembali: Masuk jalur lambat  interview lagi
Tambain deh sendiri berdasarkan pengalaman pribadi ....





>________________________________
> From: "kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org" <kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
>To: Adi <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
>Sent: Friday, 1 February 2013, 7:34
>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK handbook published today
>
>Kita bawa dalam doa saja Pak EMan...
>
>Semoga dengan semakin majunya ekonomi Indonesia, WNI bisa bebas visa ke negara2x 'maju' (baca EU, US, dll)
>
>Apply schengen visa itu bikin males bener...
>Musti cuti, anak2x bolos sekolah, naek tube pagi2x antri ke embassy...
>
>
>------------------
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Eddy Manurung <eddy.manurung-***@public.gmane.org>
>Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 04:09:13
>To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
>Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <uk-***@public.gmane.org>
>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK handbook
>published today
>
>I need that miracle Mas Chris... :)
>I have no problem to get Schengen visa as I have been regular applicant at
>French Consulate...but it always has uncomfortable experience...
>
>
>On 31 January 2013 10:52, Bagus Prakoso <brajamusti-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
>> I don't think it's gonna happen very soon.  It would be a miracle.  IMHO.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM, <kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>
>> > Perkembangan wacana dual nationalities masuk di UU Kewarganegaraan apa
>> > kabarnya ya?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ------------------
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
>> > Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:48:42
>> > To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
>> > Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <uk-***@public.gmane.org>
>> > Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
>> handbook
>> >  published today
>> >
>> > 2013/1/31 Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>:
>> > >
>> > > Kalau citizenship barangakali masih perlu di timbang karena samapi
>> saaat
>> > ini RI tidak mengakui dual citizenhip untuk orang dewasa
>> > >
>> >
>> > Ya dengan sanksi berat sekali yaitu cabut WNI :P
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Perry Ismangil
>> > _________________________________________________________________
>> > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit:
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>> >
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>
>
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[Perry Ismangil]

Mari kita buat Indonesia maju agar tidak perlu visa...

--
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me.ismangil.com
On 1 Feb 2013 08:47, "Andreas" <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org> wrote:

>
>
> Bayangin aja kalau tinggalnya di Utara, sperti di Scotland, North Westt,
> Biaya: Traiin _+ Tube untuk seluruh kluarga, Visa PPlication untul seluruh
> keluarga
> Waktu: Harus Buat appoinment 1 bulan sebelumnya lewat Mesin
>
> Waktu buat applikasi: Harus datang sendiri untuk interview.
>
> korban perasaan:
> - Waktu antri interview; Maklumlah, krn perbuatan saudara saudara setanah
> air, kita sudah termasuk kategori negara teroris. Masih belum makmur.
> - Waktu antri masuk negara tujuanm: Masuk jalur lambat interview lagi
> Waktumasuk kembali: Masuk jalur lambat interview lagi
> Tambain deh sendiri berdasarkan pengalaman pribadi ....
>
>
>
>
>
> >________________________________
> > From: "kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org" <kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
> >To: Adi <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
> >Sent: Friday, 1 February 2013, 7:34
> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> handbook published today
> >
> >Kita bawa dalam doa saja Pak EMan...
> >
> >Semoga dengan semakin majunya ekonomi Indonesia, WNI bisa bebas visa ke
> negara2x 'maju' (baca EU, US, dll)
> >
> >Apply schengen visa itu bikin males bener...
> >Musti cuti, anak2x bolos sekolah, naek tube pagi2x antri ke embassy...
> >
> >
> >------------------
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Eddy Manurung <eddy.manurung-***@public.gmane.org>
> >Date: Fri, 1 Feb 2013 04:09:13
> >To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
> >Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <uk-***@public.gmane.org>
> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK handbook
> >published today
> >
> >I need that miracle Mas Chris... :)
> >I have no problem to get Schengen visa as I have been regular applicant at
> >French Consulate...but it always has uncomfortable experience...
> >
> >
> >On 31 January 2013 10:52, Bagus Prakoso <brajamusti-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >
> >> I don't think it's gonna happen very soon. It would be a miracle.
> IMHO.
> >>
> >> Chris
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM, <kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Perkembangan wacana dual nationalities masuk di UU Kewarganegaraan apa
> >> > kabarnya ya?
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ------------------
> >> >
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> >> > Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:48:42
> >> > To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
> >> > Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <uk-***@public.gmane.org>
> >> > Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> >> handbook
> >> > published today
> >> >
> >> > 2013/1/31 Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>:
> >> > >
> >> > > Kalau citizenship barangakali masih perlu di timbang karena samapi
> >> saaat
> >> > ini RI tidak mengakui dual citizenhip untuk orang dewasa
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> > Ya dengan sanksi berat sekali yaitu cabut WNI :P
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Perry Ismangil
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[Perry Ismangil]

On 31 January 2013 09:50, <kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> Perkembangan wacana dual nationalities masuk di UU Kewarganegaraan apa kabarnya ya?
>

Ya to be fair memang mungkin kurang tinggi prioritasnya di DPR, jika
dibanding pemberantasan korupsi, pendidikan, dll...


>
> ------------------
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:48:42
> To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
> Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <uk-***@public.gmane.org>
> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK handbook
> published today
>
> 2013/1/31 Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>:
>>
>> Kalau citizenship barangakali masih perlu di timbang karena samapi saaat ini RI tidak mengakui dual citizenhip untuk orang dewasa
>>
>
> Ya dengan sanksi berat sekali yaitu cabut WNI :P
>
>
> --
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[Eddy Manurung]

Benar kata Mas Perry...sertifikatnya juga bisa dipake kalau mau apply
passport merah...
Tapi kalau udah lulus, segeralah ambil PR nya...makin tahun makin sulit dan
mahal...


2013/1/31 Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>

> Setahu saya hasil test berlaku seumur hidup.
>
> Jadi sekali ambil tidak perlu ambil lagi.
>
> Although I'm sure they will tinker with that in the future!
>
> --
> Perry Ismangil
> me.ismangil.com
> On 31 Jan 2013 08:18, "Lilis Mulyawati" <lilis_mulya-***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> > Terima kasih untuk email dan info ya Pak Perry.
> >
> > Tanya sedikit ya Pak, kalau applicant sudah mengambil test terse but di
> > atas tetapi tidak jadi apply residency hasil test tersebut hangus atau
> > masih bisa berlaku sampai jangka waktu tertentu. Atau apakah isi test
> > selalu dirubah dari waktu ke waktu.
> >
> > Semoga Pak Perry atau teman-teman Indo expat lain bisa membantu.
> >
> > Terima kasih
> >
> > Lilis Mulyawati
> >
> >
> >
> > On 29 Jan 2013, at 15:04, "Perry Ismangil" <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Bagi yang akan jadi permanent resident, ada buku baru untuk ujiannya:
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/sitecontent/newsarticles/2013/january/37-new-handbook
> > >
> > > --
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> > > me.ismangil.com
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[Eddy Manurung]

Baru sempat baca linknya (
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/visas-immigration/while-in-uk/transfer-visa-to-passport/),
cuplikannya dibawah ini:
###########################################

This page explains how you can ask us to transfer your multiple-entry visa
or residence permit (known as a visa, 'leave to enter' or 'leave to
remain') from an old passport or travel document to a biometric residence
permit (BRP).

If your old passport contains a multiple-entry visa or residence permit, we
can transfer your leave to a BRP.

*You do not need to apply for a BRP.* If you choose not to apply to have
your leave transferred to a BRP, you should carry both your old and new
passports when you travel to the UK - this will prove to our immigration
officers that you have the right to be in the UK. If you cannot produce
your visa or residence permit when you arrive at our border, you may not be
allowed to enter the country.

It is your responsibility to ensure that your travel documents are up to
date and valid. An immigration officer will decide whether to let you enter
the country, based on the evidence you produce.

############################################


Pengertianku, ILTR sticker bisa di transfer ke BRP card, tapi tidak harus.

Kalau mau ditransfer, biayanya £220, tapi kalau bersama keluarga dgn anak
dibawah umur 18 tahun, per orang dikenakan biaya: £110 kalau di apply
secara bersamaan.

Menurutku gak begitu berat, cuma pertanyaan, apakan kartu BPR ini sekali di
issue akan *berlaku seumur hidup*? atau *harus diperbaharui setiap berapa
tahun?*




2013/2/3 eddy.manurung-***@public.gmane.org <eddy.manurung-***@public.gmane.org>

> Makasih Kristin.
> But 220GBP... hmmm... Times 5 of us is... :)
>
>
>
>
> Sent from Samsung mobile
>
>
> Kristanti TREPIN ** wrote:
>
> Bang Eddy, ILR lama bisa ditransfer ke BRP, tapi ada biayanya, dan kalau
> tidak salah 220 GBP, keterangan lengkap ada di website UKBA ttg ini.
>
>
> http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/visas-immigration/while-in-uk/transfer-visa-to-passport/
>
> Salam,
> Kristanti
>
>
>
> 2013/2/1 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
>
> > yang apply ILR sejak Feb 2012 sudah gak dapet stamp di pasport lagi, tapi
> > dikasih kartu BRP. Jadi sudah bagian dari proses aplikasi ILR itu
> sendiri.
> >
> >
> >
> > >________________________________
> > > From: Eddy Manurung <eddy.manurung-***@public.gmane.org>
> > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> > >Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 12:48 PM
> > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> > handbook published today
> > >
> > >Makasih Mas Eko.
> > >Gimana utk mndapatkan BRP card itu?
> > >Tanks.
> > >
> > >
> > >2013/2/1 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
> > >
> > >> Biometric Residence Permit - semacam ID card.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> >________________________________
> > >> > From: Eddy Manurung <eddy.manurung-***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> > >> >Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 3:13 AM
> > >> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> > >> handbook published today
> > >> >
> > >> >Mas Eko, maksudnya apa BRP Card itu?
> > >> >Thanks
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >2013/1/31 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> >
> > >> >> kalo sekarang ILR dapetnya BRP card
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> >________________________________
> > >> >> > From: Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> >> >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> > >> >> >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:32 PM
> > >> >> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> > >> >> handbook published today
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >UKBA tidak menganjurkan stiker ILR di pindahkan ke passport
> baru..
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >Lagi pula harus bayar untuk hal yang tidak perlu dan tidak
> > dianjurkan.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >Jadi seperti kata pak Perry, tidak perlu Minta stiker baru untuk
> > >> >> dipindahkan ke Passport ynag baru.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >Jadi teorinya IILR nya nempel di passport ynag lama sekalipun
> > passport
> > >> >> sudah diganti 3 atau 4 kali, ILR nya tetap saja berlaku di
> passport
> > >> ynag
> > >> >> lama. Ini hanya teori saja lho ya
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >Barangkali rekan rekan yang lain ingin menambahkan. terutama
> apakah
> > >> >> perlunay memindahkan stikernya ke passport
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >>________________________________
> > >> >> >> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> >> >>To: Adi <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> >> >>Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 15:36
> > >> >> >>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> > >> >> handbook published today
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >>Ya stiker UKBA kan tidak harus dipindahkan ke paspor baru, so ya
> > >> selalu
> > >> >> ada
> > >> >> >>di paspor lama... (teori lho ya ini :-))
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >>--
> > >> >> >>Perry Ismangil
> > >> >> >>me.ismangil.com
> > >> >> >>On 31 Jan 2013 15:32, "Kristanti TREPIN" <kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org>
> > wrote:
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >>> Iseng saja nih saya nanya,
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>> Kalo sudah punya passport merah/biru (apapun yang tdk hijau dan
> > >> >> berlambang
> > >> >> >>> garuda), waktu passport di KBRI apakah petugas tidak cek atau
> > tanya
> > >> >> >>> visa/permit to stay di UK? karena biasanya visa/permit to stay
> di
> > >> >> >>> UK attached di passport?
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>> Terima kasih
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>> Salam,
> > >> >> >>> Kristanti
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Eko Kurniawan <
> > >> ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> > >> >> >>> >wrote:
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>> > mungkin perlu naturalisasi lagi jadi WNI :)
> > >> >> >>> >
> > >> >> >>> >
> > >> >> >>> >
> > >> >> >>> > >________________________________
> > >> >> >>> > > From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> >> >>> > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> > >> >> >>> > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:26 AM
> > >> >> >>> > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in
> > the
> > >> UK
> > >> >> >>> > handbook published today
> > >> >> >>> > >
> > >> >> >>> > >Kalaupun terjadi, ada amnesti ngga ya untuk yang 'terlanjur'
> > >> punya
> > >> >> dua
> > >> >> >>> > paspor :)
> > >> >> >>> > >
> > >> >> >>> > >On 31 January 2013 09:52, Bagus Prakoso <
> brajamusti-***@public.gmane.org
> > >
> > >> >> wrote:
> > >> >> >>> > >> I don't think it's gonna happen very soon. It would be a
> > >> miracle.
> > >> >> >>> > IMHO.
> > >> >> >>> > >>
> > >> >> >>> > >> Chris
> > >> >> >>> > >>
> > >> >> >>> > >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM, <kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> >> >>> > >>
> > >> >> >>> > >>> Perkembangan wacana dual nationalities masuk di UU
> > >> >> Kewarganegaraan
> > >> >> >>> apa
> > >> >> >>> > >>> kabarnya ya?
> > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > >> >> >>> > >>> ------------------
> > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > >> >> >>> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >> >> >>> > >>> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> >> >>> > >>> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:48:42
> > >> >> >>> > >>> To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> >> >>> > >>> Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <
> > >> >> uk-***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> >> >>> > >>> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life
> in
> > >> the UK
> > >> >> >>> > handbook
> > >> >> >>> > >>> published today
> > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > >> >> >>> > >>> 2013/1/31 Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>:
> > >> >> >>> > >>> >
> > >> >> >>> > >>> > Kalau citizenship barangakali masih perlu di timbang
> > karena
> > >> >> samapi
> > >> >> >>> > saaat
> > >> >> >>> > >>> ini RI tidak mengakui dual citizenhip untuk orang dewasa
> > >> >> >>> > >>> >
> > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > >> >> >>> > >>> Ya dengan sanksi berat sekali yaitu cabut WNI :P
> > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > >> >> >>> > >>> --
> > >> >> >>> > >>> Perry Ismangil
> > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > >> _________________________________________________________________
> > >> >> >>> > >>> To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options,
> please
> > >> visit:
> > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > >> >> >>>
> > >>
> http://lists.indoexpat.org/mailman/options/uk/kuntoaribowo%40gmail.com
> > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > >> _________________________________________________________________
> > >> >> >>> > >>> To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options,
> please
> > >> visit:
> > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > >> >>
> http://lists.indoexpat.org/mailman/options/uk/brajamusti%40gmail.com
> > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > >> >> >>> > >>
> > >> _________________________________________________________________
> > >> >> >>> > >> To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please
> > >> visit:
> > >> >> >>> > >>
> > >> >> http://lists.indoexpat.org/mailman/options/uk/perry%40ismangil.com
> > >> >> >>> > >
> > >> >> >>> > >
> > >> >> >>> > >
> > >> >> >>> > >--
> > >> >> >>> > >Perry Ismangil
> > >> >> >>> >
> > >_________________________________________________________________
> > >> >> >>> > >To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please
> > visit:
> > >> >> >>> > >
> > >> >>
> > http://lists.indoexpat.org/mailman/options/uk/ekokurniawan%40yahoo.com
> > >> >> >>> > >
> > >> >> >>> > >
> > >> >> >>> > >
> > >> >> >>> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
> > >> >> >>> > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please
> > visit:
> > >> >> >>> >
> > >> http://lists.indoexpat.org/mailman/options/uk/kwidyaana%40gmail.com
> > >> >> >>> >
> > >> >> >>>
> _________________________________________________________________
> > >> >> >>> To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please
> visit:
> > >> >> >>>
> > http://lists.indoexpat.org/mailman/options/uk/perry%40ismangil.com
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>_________________________________________________________________
> > >> >> >>To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit:
> > >> >> >>
> > http://lists.indoexpat.org/mailman/options/uk/pantaiema%40yahoo.com
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >_________________________________________________________________
> > >> >> >To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit:
> > >> >> >
> > http://lists.indoexpat.org/mailman/options/uk/ekokurniawan%40yahoo.com
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> _________________________________________________________________
> > >> >> To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit:
> > >> >>
> > http://lists.indoexpat.org/mailman/options/uk/eddy.manurung%40gmail.com
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >--
> > >> >
> > >> >Regards,
> > >> >Eddy Manurung
> > >> >_________________________________________________________________
> > >> >To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit:
> > >> >
> http://lists.indoexpat.org/mailman/options/uk/ekokurniawan%40yahoo.com
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> _________________________________________________________________
> > >> To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit:
> > >>
> http://lists.indoexpat.org/mailman/options/uk/eddy.manurung%40gmail.com
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >--
> > >
> > >Regards,
> > >Eddy Manurung
> > >_________________________________________________________________
> > >To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit:
> > >http://lists.indoexpat.org/mailman/options/uk/ekokurniawan%40yahoo.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > _________________________________________________________________
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> >
>
>
>
> --
> Warm regards,
>
> Kristanti Widyaana TREPIN
> _________________________________________________________________
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Terima kasih banyak infonya PakEMan.

Sebelum saya jepret passpor ijo ketiga nanti, perlu bikin dulu deh kartu BRP...

Siapa tau dengan BRP card bisa travel ke EU bebas, seperti IDcard nya orang Jerman Belanda dll.


------------------

-----Original Message-----
From: Eddy Manurung <eddy.manurung-***@public.gmane.org>
Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 21:32:35
To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <uk-***@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK handbook
published today

Baru sempat baca linknya (
http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/visas-immigration/while-in-uk/transfer-visa-to-passport/),
cuplikannya dibawah ini:
###########################################

This page explains how you can ask us to transfer your multiple-entry visa
or residence permit (known as a visa, 'leave to enter' or 'leave to
remain') from an old passport or travel document to a biometric residence
permit (BRP).

If your old passport contains a multiple-entry visa or residence permit, we
can transfer your leave to a BRP.

*You do not need to apply for a BRP.* If you choose not to apply to have
your leave transferred to a BRP, you should carry both your old and new
passports when you travel to the UK - this will prove to our immigration
officers that you have the right to be in the UK. If you cannot produce
your visa or residence permit when you arrive at our border, you may not be
allowed to enter the country.

It is your responsibility to ensure that your travel documents are up to
date and valid. An immigration officer will decide whether to let you enter
the country, based on the evidence you produce.

############################################


Pengertianku, ILTR sticker bisa di transfer ke BRP card, tapi tidak harus.

Kalau mau ditransfer, biayanya £220, tapi kalau bersama keluarga dgn anak
dibawah umur 18 tahun, per orang dikenakan biaya: £110 kalau di apply
secara bersamaan.

Menurutku gak begitu berat, cuma pertanyaan, apakan kartu BPR ini sekali di
issue akan *berlaku seumur hidup*? atau *harus diperbaharui setiap berapa
tahun?*




2013/2/3 eddy.manurung-***@public.gmane.org <eddy.manurung-***@public.gmane.org>

> Makasih Kristin.
> But 220GBP... hmmm... Times 5 of us is... :)
>
>
>
>
> Sent from Samsung mobile
>
>
> Kristanti TREPIN ** wrote:
>
> Bang Eddy, ILR lama bisa ditransfer ke BRP, tapi ada biayanya, dan kalau
> tidak salah 220 GBP, keterangan lengkap ada di website UKBA ttg ini.
>
>
> http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/visas-immigration/while-in-uk/transfer-visa-to-passport/
>
> Salam,
> Kristanti
>
>
>
> 2013/2/1 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
>
> > yang apply ILR sejak Feb 2012 sudah gak dapet stamp di pasport lagi, tapi
> > dikasih kartu BRP. Jadi sudah bagian dari proses aplikasi ILR itu
> sendiri.
> >
> >
> >
> > >________________________________
> > > From: Eddy Manurung <eddy.manurung-***@public.gmane.org>
> > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> > >Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 12:48 PM
> > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> > handbook published today
> > >
> > >Makasih Mas Eko.
> > >Gimana utk mndapatkan BRP card itu?
> > >Tanks.
> > >
> > >
> > >2013/2/1 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
> > >
> > >> Biometric Residence Permit - semacam ID card.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> >________________________________
> > >> > From: Eddy Manurung <eddy.manurung-***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> > >> >Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 3:13 AM
> > >> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> > >> handbook published today
> > >> >
> > >> >Mas Eko, maksudnya apa BRP Card itu?
> > >> >Thanks
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >2013/1/31 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> >
> > >> >> kalo sekarang ILR dapetnya BRP card
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> >________________________________
> > >> >> > From: Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> >> >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> > >> >> >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:32 PM
> > >> >> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> > >> >> handbook published today
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >UKBA tidak menganjurkan stiker ILR di pindahkan ke passport
> baru..
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >Lagi pula harus bayar untuk hal yang tidak perlu dan tidak
> > dianjurkan.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >Jadi seperti kata pak Perry, tidak perlu Minta stiker baru untuk
> > >> >> dipindahkan ke Passport ynag baru.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >Jadi teorinya IILR nya nempel di passport ynag lama sekalipun
> > passport
> > >> >> sudah diganti 3 atau 4 kali, ILR nya tetap saja berlaku di
> passport
> > >> ynag
> > >> >> lama. Ini hanya teori saja lho ya
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >Barangkali rekan rekan yang lain ingin menambahkan. terutama
> apakah
> > >> >> perlunay memindahkan stikernya ke passport
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >>________________________________
> > >> >> >> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> >> >>To: Adi <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> >> >>Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 15:36
> > >> >> >>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> > >> >> handbook published today
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >>Ya stiker UKBA kan tidak harus dipindahkan ke paspor baru, so ya
> > >> selalu
> > >> >> ada
> > >> >> >>di paspor lama... (teori lho ya ini :-))
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >>--
> > >> >> >>Perry Ismangil
> > >> >> >>me.ismangil.com
> > >> >> >>On 31 Jan 2013 15:32, "Kristanti TREPIN" <kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org>
> > wrote:
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >>> Iseng saja nih saya nanya,
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>> Kalo sudah punya passport merah/biru (apapun yang tdk hijau dan
> > >> >> berlambang
> > >> >> >>> garuda), waktu passport di KBRI apakah petugas tidak cek atau
> > tanya
> > >> >> >>> visa/permit to stay di UK? karena biasanya visa/permit to stay
> di
> > >> >> >>> UK attached di passport?
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>> Terima kasih
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>> Salam,
> > >> >> >>> Kristanti
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Eko Kurniawan <
> > >> ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> > >> >> >>> >wrote:
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>> > mungkin perlu naturalisasi lagi jadi WNI :)
> > >> >> >>> >
> > >> >> >>> >
> > >> >> >>> >
> > >> >> >>> > >________________________________
> > >> >> >>> > > From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> >> >>> > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> > >> >> >>> > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:26 AM
> > >> >> >>> > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in
> > the
> > >> UK
> > >> >> >>> > handbook published today
> > >> >> >>> > >
> > >> >> >>> > >Kalaupun terjadi, ada amnesti ngga ya untuk yang 'terlanjur'
> > >> punya
> > >> >> dua
> > >> >> >>> > paspor :)
> > >> >> >>> > >
> > >> >> >>> > >On 31 January 2013 09:52, Bagus Prakoso <
> brajamusti-***@public.gmane.org
> > >
> > >> >> wrote:
> > >> >> >>> > >> I don't think it's gonna happen very soon. It would be a
> > >> miracle.
> > >> >> >>> > IMHO.
> > >> >> >>> > >>
> > >> >> >>> > >> Chris
> > >> >> >>> > >>
> > >> >> >>> > >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM, <kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> >> >>> > >>
> > >> >> >>> > >>> Perkembangan wacana dual nationalities masuk di UU
> > >> >> Kewarganegaraan
> > >> >> >>> apa
> > >> >> >>> > >>> kabarnya ya?
> > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > >> >> >>> > >>> ------------------
> > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > >> >> >>> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >> >> >>> > >>> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> >> >>> > >>> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:48:42
> > >> >> >>> > >>> To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> >> >>> > >>> Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <
> > >> >> uk-***@public.gmane.org>
> > >> >> >>> > >>> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life
> in
> > >> the UK
> > >> >> >>> > handbook
> > >> >> >>> > >>> published today
> > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > >> >> >>> > >>> 2013/1/31 Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>:
> > >> >> >>> > >>> >
> > >> >> >>> > >>> > Kalau citizenship barangakali masih perlu di timbang
> > karena
> > >> >> samapi
> > >> >> >>> > saaat
> > >> >> >>> > >>> ini RI tidak mengakui dual citizenhip untuk orang dewasa
> > >> >> >>> > >>> >
> > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > >> >> >>> > >>> Ya dengan sanksi berat sekali yaitu cabut WNI :P
> > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > >> >> >>> > >>> --
> > >> >> >>> > >>> Perry Ismangil
> > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > >> _________________________________________________________________
> > >> >> >>> > >>> To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options,
> please
> > >> visit:
> > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > >> >> >>>
> > >>
> http://lists.indoexpat.org/mailman/options/uk/kuntoaribowo%40gmail.com
> > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > >> _________________________________________________________________
> > >> >> >>> > >>> To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options,
> please
> > >> visit:
> > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > >> >>
> http://lists.indoexpat.org/mailman/options/uk/brajamusti%40gmail.com
> > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > >> >> >>> > >>
> > >> _________________________________________________________________
> > >> >> >>> > >> To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please
> > >> visit:
> > >> >> >>> > >>
> > >> >> http://lists.indoexpat.org/mailman/options/uk/perry%40ismangil.com
> > >> >> >>> > >
> > >> >> >>> > >
> > >> >> >>> > >
> > >> >> >>> > >--
> > >> >> >>> > >Perry Ismangil
> > >> >> >>> >
> > >_________________________________________________________________
> > >> >> >>> > >To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please
> > visit:
> > >> >> >>> > >
> > >> >>
> > http://lists.indoexpat.org/mailman/options/uk/ekokurniawan%40yahoo.com
> > >> >> >>> > >
> > >> >> >>> > >
> > >> >> >>> > >
> > >> >> >>> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
> > >> >> >>> > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please
> > visit:
> > >> >> >>> >
> > >> http://lists.indoexpat.org/mailman/options/uk/kwidyaana%40gmail.com
> > >> >> >>> >
> > >> >> >>>
> _________________________________________________________________
> > >> >> >>> To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please
> visit:
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[Eddy Manurung]

Itu juga harapanku.
Mungkin dgn BRP card, tetap apply visa tapi data visa tersimpan dalam data2
yg ber koneksi dalam data kartu.
Jadi di custom, mereka hanya butuh kartu itu utk mereka scan atau check for
visa....
Kalau begit metodanya, worth of money...


2013/2/4 <kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>

> Terima kasih banyak infonya PakEMan.
>
> Sebelum saya jepret passpor ijo ketiga nanti, perlu bikin dulu deh kartu
> BRP...
>
> Siapa tau dengan BRP card bisa travel ke EU bebas, seperti IDcard nya
> orang Jerman Belanda dll.
>
>
> ------------------
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eddy Manurung <eddy.manurung-***@public.gmane.org>
> Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 21:32:35
> To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
> Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <uk-***@public.gmane.org>
> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK handbook
> published today
>
> Baru sempat baca linknya (
>
> http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/visas-immigration/while-in-uk/transfer-visa-to-passport/
> ),
> cuplikannya dibawah ini:
> ###########################################
>
> This page explains how you can ask us to transfer your multiple-entry visa
> or residence permit (known as a visa, 'leave to enter' or 'leave to
> remain') from an old passport or travel document to a biometric residence
> permit (BRP).
>
> If your old passport contains a multiple-entry visa or residence permit, we
> can transfer your leave to a BRP.
>
> *You do not need to apply for a BRP.* If you choose not to apply to have
> your leave transferred to a BRP, you should carry both your old and new
> passports when you travel to the UK - this will prove to our immigration
> officers that you have the right to be in the UK. If you cannot produce
> your visa or residence permit when you arrive at our border, you may not be
> allowed to enter the country.
>
> It is your responsibility to ensure that your travel documents are up to
> date and valid. An immigration officer will decide whether to let you enter
> the country, based on the evidence you produce.
>
> ############################################
>
>
> Pengertianku, ILTR sticker bisa di transfer ke BRP card, tapi tidak harus.
>
> Kalau mau ditransfer, biayanya £220, tapi kalau bersama keluarga dgn anak
> dibawah umur 18 tahun, per orang dikenakan biaya: £110 kalau di apply
> secara bersamaan.
>
> Menurutku gak begitu berat, cuma pertanyaan, apakan kartu BPR ini sekali di
> issue akan *berlaku seumur hidup*? atau *harus diperbaharui setiap berapa
> tahun?*
>
>
>
>
> 2013/2/3 eddy.manurung-***@public.gmane.org <eddy.manurung-***@public.gmane.org>
>
> > Makasih Kristin.
> > But 220GBP... hmmm... Times 5 of us is... :)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from Samsung mobile
> >
> >
> > Kristanti TREPIN ** wrote:
> >
> > Bang Eddy, ILR lama bisa ditransfer ke BRP, tapi ada biayanya, dan kalau
> > tidak salah 220 GBP, keterangan lengkap ada di website UKBA ttg ini.
> >
> >
> >
> http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/visas-immigration/while-in-uk/transfer-visa-to-passport/
> >
> > Salam,
> > Kristanti
> >
> >
> >
> > 2013/2/1 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
> >
> > > yang apply ILR sejak Feb 2012 sudah gak dapet stamp di pasport lagi,
> tapi
> > > dikasih kartu BRP. Jadi sudah bagian dari proses aplikasi ILR itu
> > sendiri.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >________________________________
> > > > From: Eddy Manurung <eddy.manurung-***@public.gmane.org>
> > > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> > > >Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 12:48 PM
> > > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> > > handbook published today
> > > >
> > > >Makasih Mas Eko.
> > > >Gimana utk mndapatkan BRP card itu?
> > > >Tanks.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >2013/2/1 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
> > > >
> > > >> Biometric Residence Permit - semacam ID card.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> >________________________________
> > > >> > From: Eddy Manurung <eddy.manurung-***@public.gmane.org>
> > > >> >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> > > >> >Sent: Friday, February 1, 2013 3:13 AM
> > > >> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the UK
> > > >> handbook published today
> > > >> >
> > > >> >Mas Eko, maksudnya apa BRP Card itu?
> > > >> >Thanks
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >2013/1/31 Eko Kurniawan <ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> kalo sekarang ILR dapetnya BRP card
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> >________________________________
> > > >> >> > From: Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
> > > >> >> >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> > > >> >> >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 4:32 PM
> > > >> >> >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the
> UK
> > > >> >> handbook published today
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >UKBA tidak menganjurkan stiker ILR di pindahkan ke passport
> > baru..
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >Lagi pula harus bayar untuk hal yang tidak perlu dan tidak
> > > dianjurkan.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >Jadi seperti kata pak Perry, tidak perlu Minta stiker baru
> untuk
> > > >> >> dipindahkan ke Passport ynag baru.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >Jadi teorinya IILR nya nempel di passport ynag lama sekalipun
> > > passport
> > > >> >> sudah diganti 3 atau 4 kali, ILR nya tetap saja berlaku di
> > passport
> > > >> ynag
> > > >> >> lama. Ini hanya teori saja lho ya
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >Barangkali rekan rekan yang lain ingin menambahkan. terutama
> > apakah
> > > >> >> perlunay memindahkan stikernya ke passport
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >>________________________________
> > > >> >> >> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> > > >> >> >>To: Adi <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>
> > > >> >> >>Sent: Thursday, 31 January 2013, 15:36
> > > >> >> >>Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life in the
> UK
> > > >> >> handbook published today
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >>Ya stiker UKBA kan tidak harus dipindahkan ke paspor baru, so
> ya
> > > >> selalu
> > > >> >> ada
> > > >> >> >>di paspor lama... (teori lho ya ini :-))
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >>--
> > > >> >> >>Perry Ismangil
> > > >> >> >>me.ismangil.com
> > > >> >> >>On 31 Jan 2013 15:32, "Kristanti TREPIN" <kwidyaana-***@public.gmane.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >>> Iseng saja nih saya nanya,
> > > >> >> >>>
> > > >> >> >>> Kalo sudah punya passport merah/biru (apapun yang tdk hijau
> dan
> > > >> >> berlambang
> > > >> >> >>> garuda), waktu passport di KBRI apakah petugas tidak cek
> atau
> > > tanya
> > > >> >> >>> visa/permit to stay di UK? karena biasanya visa/permit to
> stay
> > di
> > > >> >> >>> UK attached di passport?
> > > >> >> >>>
> > > >> >> >>> Terima kasih
> > > >> >> >>>
> > > >> >> >>> Salam,
> > > >> >> >>> Kristanti
> > > >> >> >>>
> > > >> >> >>> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Eko Kurniawan <
> > > >> ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> > > >> >> >>> >wrote:
> > > >> >> >>>
> > > >> >> >>> > mungkin perlu naturalisasi lagi jadi WNI :)
> > > >> >> >>> >
> > > >> >> >>> >
> > > >> >> >>> >
> > > >> >> >>> > >________________________________
> > > >> >> >>> > > From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> > > >> >> >>> > >To: ekokurniawan-/***@public.gmane.org
> > > >> >> >>> > >Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:26 AM
> > > >> >> >>> > >Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life
> in
> > > the
> > > >> UK
> > > >> >> >>> > handbook published today
> > > >> >> >>> > >
> > > >> >> >>> > >Kalaupun terjadi, ada amnesti ngga ya untuk yang
> 'terlanjur'
> > > >> punya
> > > >> >> dua
> > > >> >> >>> > paspor :)
> > > >> >> >>> > >
> > > >> >> >>> > >On 31 January 2013 09:52, Bagus Prakoso <
> > brajamusti-***@public.gmane.org
> > > >
> > > >> >> wrote:
> > > >> >> >>> > >> I don't think it's gonna happen very soon. It would be
> a
> > > >> miracle.
> > > >> >> >>> > IMHO.
> > > >> >> >>> > >>
> > > >> >> >>> > >> Chris
> > > >> >> >>> > >>
> > > >> >> >>> > >> On Thu, Jan 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM, <
> kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> >> >>> > >>
> > > >> >> >>> > >>> Perkembangan wacana dual nationalities masuk di UU
> > > >> >> Kewarganegaraan
> > > >> >> >>> apa
> > > >> >> >>> > >>> kabarnya ya?
> > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > > >> >> >>> > >>> ------------------
> > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > > >> >> >>> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> >> >>> > >>> From: Perry Ismangil <perry-Qz18OTYYWP1Wk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>
> > > >> >> >>> > >>> Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:48:42
> > > >> >> >>> > >>> To: Ibnu Kunto Aribowo<kuntoaribowo-***@public.gmane.org>
> > > >> >> >>> > >>> Reply-To: Forum Komunikasi Expat Indonesia di UK <
> > > >> >> uk-***@public.gmane.org>
> > > >> >> >>> > >>> Subject: Re: [indoexpat-uk] UK Border Agency | New Life
> > in
> > > >> the UK
> > > >> >> >>> > handbook
> > > >> >> >>> > >>> published today
> > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > > >> >> >>> > >>> 2013/1/31 Andreas <pantaiema-/***@public.gmane.org>:
> > > >> >> >>> > >>> >
> > > >> >> >>> > >>> > Kalau citizenship barangakali masih perlu di timbang
> > > karena
> > > >> >> samapi
> > > >> >> >>> > saaat
> > > >> >> >>> > >>> ini RI tidak mengakui dual citizenhip untuk orang
> dewasa
> > > >> >> >>> > >>> >
> > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > > >> >> >>> > >>> Ya dengan sanksi berat sekali yaitu cabut WNI :P
> > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > > >> >> >>> > >>>
> > > >> >> >>> > >>> --
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