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Why I am a Climate Change Skeptic
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raykeller
2015-03-21 06:47:06 UTC
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http://news.heartland.org/newspaper-article/2015/03/20/why-i-am-climate-change-skeptic

There is good reason to study the science of climate, ecology, and more, but
what has passed for science for some is not. --

Why I am a Climate Change Skeptic
March 20, 2015 | Patrick Moore

Editorâ?Ts Note: Patrick Moore, Ph.D., has been a leader in international
environmentalism for more than 40 years. He cofounded Greenpeace and
currently serves as chair of Allow Golden Rice. Moore received the 2014
Speaks Truth to Power Award at the Ninth International Conference on Climate
Change, July 8, in Las Vegas.

I am skeptical humans are the main cause of climate change and that it will
be catastrophic in the near future. There is no scientific proof of this
hypothesis, yet we are told â?othe debate is overâ? and â?othe science is
settled.�

My skepticism begins with the believersâ?T certainty they can predict the
global climate with a computer model. The entire basis for the doomsday
climate change scenario is the hypothesis increased atmospheric carbon
dioxide due to fossil fuel emissions will heat the Earth to unlivable
temperatures.

In fact, the Earth has been warming very gradually for 300 years, since the
Little Ice Age ended, long before heavy use of fossil fuels. Prior to the
Little Ice Age, during the Medieval Warm Period, Vikings colonized Greenland
and Newfoundland, when it was warmer there than today. And during Roman
times, it was warmer, long before fossil fuels revolutionized civilization.

The idea it would be catastrophic if carbon dioxide were to increase and
average global temperature were to rise a few degrees is preposterous.

Recently, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) announced for
the umpteenth time we are doomed unless we reduce carbon-dioxide emissions
to zero. Effectively this means either reducing the population to zero, or
going back 10,000 years before humans began clearing forests for
agriculture. This proposed cure is far worse than adapting to a warmer
world, if it actually comes about.

IPCC Conflict of Interest

By its constitution, the IPCC has a hopeless conflict of interest. Its
mandate is to consider only the human causes of global warming, not the many
natural causes changing the climate for billions of years. We donâ?Tt
understand the natural causes of climate change any more than we know if
humans are part of the cause at present. If the IPCC did not find humans
were the cause of warming, or if it found warming would be more positive
than negative, there would be no need for the IPCC under its present
mandate. To survive, it must find on the side of the apocalypse.

The IPCC should either have its mandate expanded to include all causes of
climate change, or it should be dismantled.

Political Powerhouse

Climate change has become a powerful political force for many reasons.
First, it is universal; we are told everything on Earth is threatened.
Second, it invokes the two most powerful human motivators: fear and guilt.
We fear driving our car will kill our grandchildren, and we feel guilty for
doing it.

Third, there is a powerful convergence of interests among key elites that
support the climate â?onarrative.â? Environmentalists spread fear and raise
donations; politicians appear to be saving the Earth from doom; the media
has a field day with sensation and conflict; science institutions raise
billions in grants, create whole new departments, and stoke a feeding frenzy
of scary scenarios; business wants to look green, and get huge public
subsidies for projects that would otherwise be economic losers, such as wind
farms and solar arrays. Fourth, the Left sees climate change as a perfect
means to redistribute wealth from industrial countries to the developing
world and the UN bureaucracy.

So we are told carbon dioxide is a â?otoxicâ? â?opollutantâ? that must be
curtailed, when in fact it is a colorless, odorless, tasteless, gas and the
most important food for life on earth. Without carbon dioxide above 150
parts per million, all plants would die.

Human Emissions Saved Planet

Over the past 150 million years, carbon dioxide had been drawn down steadily
(by plants) from about 3,000 parts per million to about 280 parts per
million before the Industrial Revolution. If this trend continued, the
carbon dioxide level would have become too low to support life on Earth.
Human fossil fuel use and clearing land for crops have boosted carbon
dioxide from its lowest level in the history of the Earth back to 400 parts
per million today.

At 400 parts per million, all our food crops, forests, and natural
ecosystems are still on a starvation diet for carbon dioxide. The optimum
level of carbon dioxide for plant growth, given enough water and nutrients,
is about 1,500 parts per million, nearly four times higher than today.
Greenhouse growers inject carbon-dioxide to increase yields. Farms and
forests will produce more if carbon-dioxide keeps rising.

We have no proof increased carbon dioxide is responsible for the earthâ?Ts
slight warming over the past 300 years. There has been no significant
warming for 18 years while we have emitted 25 per cent of all the carbon
dioxide ever emitted. Carbon dioxide is vital for life on Earth and plants
would like more of it. Which should we emphasize to our children?

Celebrate Carbon Dioxide

The IPCCâ?Ts followers have given us a vision of a world dying because of
carbon-dioxide emissions. I say the Earth would be a lot deader with no
carbon dioxide, and more of it will be a very positive factor in feeding the
world. Letâ?Ts celebrate carbon dioxide.
Stormin Mormon
2015-03-21 12:14:07 UTC
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http://news.heartland.org/newspaper-article/2015/03/20/why-i-am-climate-change-skeptic
Editor�?Ts Note:this didn't copy very well.
yet we are told �?othearticle had some strange characters.
debate is over�?�, they sure are strange.


and �?othe science can't figure otu why.


is settled.�?�, need to copy artcles differently.
Post by raykeller
My skepticism begins with the believers�?Tin copy and paste.
support the climate �?onarrative.�?�, post some odd figures!
So we are told carbon dioxide is a �?otoxic�?�sure, if you breathe
enough of it.


�?opollutant�?� that must be spelled some different way.
Post by raykeller
The IPCC�?Ts followerssure write the name strangely.
world. Let�?Ts learn how to copy and paste!
Frank
2015-03-21 13:14:53 UTC
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Post by raykeller
http://news.heartland.org/newspaper-article/2015/03/20/why-i-am-climate-change-skeptic
Editor�?Ts Note:this didn't copy very well.
yet we are told �?othearticle had some strange characters.
debate is over�?�, they sure are strange.
and �?othe science can't figure otu why.
is settled.�?�, need to copy artcles differently.
Post by raykeller
My skepticism begins with the believers�?Tin copy and paste.
support the climate �?onarrative.�?�, post some odd figures!
So we are told carbon dioxide is a �?otoxic�?�sure, if you breathe
enough of it.
�?opollutant�?� that must be spelled some different way.
Post by raykeller
The IPCC�?Ts followerssure write the name strangely.
world. Let�?Ts learn how to copy and paste!
Been through this with one of my correspondents.
Depends on writer and reader software seeing code differently.
Stormin Mormon
2015-03-21 13:56:29 UTC
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Post by Frank
world. Letâ?Ts learn how to copy and paste!
Been through this with one of my correspondents.
Depends on writer and reader software seeing code differently.
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news13
2015-03-22 05:07:46 UTC
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Why I am a Climate Change Skeptic March 20, 2015 | Patrick Moore
Editorâ?Ts Note: Patrick Moore, Ph.D., has been a leader in
international
Has been? He wasn't the guy who had a major dummy spit when people wanted
to do more than sit around a camp fire singing kumbyaa?
I am skeptical humans are the main cause of climate change
If he really wrote this then any implied reputation is totally
undeserved. Clearly an article to muddy the debate.
7+billion arseholes must have some effect.
Probably more correct to say 8 these days.
Keep rooting for a bigger shit pile.
One Party System
2015-03-23 00:42:50 UTC
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Why I am a Climate Change Skeptic March 20, 2015 | Patrick Moore
Editorâ?Ts Note: Patrick Moore, Ph.D., has been a leader in
international
Has been? He wasn't the guy who had a major dummy spit when people wanted
to do more than sit around a camp fire singing kumbyaa?
I am skeptical humans are the main cause of climate change
If he really wrote this then any implied reputation is totally
undeserved. Clearly an article to muddy the debate.
7+billion arseholes must have some effect.
Probably more correct to say 8 these days.
Keep rooting for a bigger shit pile.
Must have some effect? Well then, present your evidence. or just kill
yourself if you think man is the poroblem.

The earth is 4.5 billion years old. To extrapolate trends from a few
decades of questionable data is beyond unscientific, it is quite
preposterous. People whose lives have little meaning in search of meaning.
Sad.
--
There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don’t want the patient
to get well, because as long as the disease holds out they have not only an
easy means of making a living, but also an easy medium through which to
make themselves prominent before the public.

Booker T. Washington
Wayne
2015-03-23 01:20:18 UTC
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Post by news13
Why I am a Climate Change Skeptic March 20, 2015 | Patrick Moore
Editorâ?Ts Note: Patrick Moore, Ph.D., has been a leader in international
Has been? He wasn't the guy who had a major dummy spit when people wanted
to do more than sit around a camp fire singing kumbyaa?
I am skeptical humans are the main cause of climate change
If he really wrote this then any implied reputation is totally
undeserved. Clearly an article to muddy the debate.
7+billion arseholes must have some effect.
Probably more correct to say 8 these days.
Keep rooting for a bigger shit pile.
# Must have some effect? Well then, present your evidence. or just kill
# yourself if you think man is the poroblem.

# The earth is 4.5 billion years old. To extrapolate trends from a few
# decades of questionable data is beyond unscientific, it is quite
# preposterous. People whose lives have little meaning in search of meaning.
# Sad.

Humans are just a temporary surface infection of Earth. Earth will get
along just fine, with or without us.
news13
2015-03-23 03:33:41 UTC
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Post by One Party System
Must have some effect? Well then, present your evidence. or just kill
yourself if you think man is the poroblem.
You mean the situation in NY is not a good enough example?
Post by One Party System
The earth is 4.5 billion years old. To extrapolate trends from a few
decades of questionable data is beyond unscientific, it is quite
preposterous. People whose lives have little meaning in search of meaning.
Is that why you mae your post.
Yep, the earth might be estimated to be about 4.5 billion years old, but
how long has it been habitable for humans? That is the question.

Hint, how many years was it ice ball earth?

The quote on slashdot showed what an out of touch whacko that guy really
was. Basically "plants live in a carbon starvation situation", thus
implying that increased Co2 would be great, but what he ignored is the
research that given a richer carbon environment, our food plants look
after their own interests and become course roughage at best.
Post by One Party System
Sad.
that you are not looking and wondering is correct.
Frankly who knows, but party-party-party doesn't seem the best approach.
Scout
2015-03-23 04:05:58 UTC
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Post by One Party System
Must have some effect? Well then, present your evidence. or just kill
yourself if you think man is the poroblem.
You mean the situation in NY is not a good enough example?
Post by One Party System
The earth is 4.5 billion years old. To extrapolate trends from a few
decades of questionable data is beyond unscientific, it is quite
preposterous. People whose lives have little meaning in search of meaning.
Is that why you mae your post.
Yep, the earth might be estimated to be about 4.5 billion years old, but
how long has it been habitable for humans? That is the question.
Hint, how many years was it ice ball earth?
Well clearly man is responsible for turning the ice ball earth into the nice
warm place it is today.......or you're going to have to explain why we
shouldn't consider the possibility that what's going on now is just more of
the same natural process.
news13
2015-03-23 09:41:49 UTC
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Post by news13
Hint, how many years was it ice ball earth?
Well clearly man is responsible for turning the ice ball earth into the
nice warm place it is today.......or you're going to have to explain why
we shouldn't consider the possibility that what's going on now is just
more of the same natural process.
If you are that dumb, why would I bother.Obviously you're part of the
infestation to be wiped out. Gunner is gunna get his great cull. Stock up
on flavouring for all the snowcones.
One Party System
2015-03-23 11:22:33 UTC
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Post by Scout
Post by news13
Hint, how many years was it ice ball earth?
Well clearly man is responsible for turning the ice ball earth into the
nice warm place it is today.......or you're going to have to explain why
we shouldn't consider the possibility that what's going on now is just
more of the same natural process.
If you are that dumb, why would I bother.Obviously you're part of the
infestation to be wiped out. Gunner is gunna get his great cull. Stock up
on flavouring for all the snowcones.
the infestation to be wiped out

Yes you are quite insane. And a danger to human civilization.
--
There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don’t want the patient
to get well, because as long as the disease holds out they have not only an
easy means of making a living, but also an easy medium through which to
make themselves prominent before the public.

Booker T. Washington
news13
2015-03-24 11:31:15 UTC
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Post by news13
If you are that dumb, why would I bother.Obviously you're part of the
infestation to be wiped out. Gunner is gunna get his great cull. Stock
up on flavouring for all the snowcones.
the infestation to be wiped out
Yes you are quite insane. And a danger to human civilization.
History records that a few civilisations survived on long-pig on the spit.
Shrug.
One Party System
2015-03-25 11:14:15 UTC
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Post by One Party System
Post by news13
If you are that dumb, why would I bother.Obviously you're part of the
infestation to be wiped out. Gunner is gunna get his great cull. Stock
up on flavouring for all the snowcones.
the infestation to be wiped out
Yes you are quite insane. And a danger to human civilization.
History records that a few civilisations survived on long-pig on the spit.
Shrug.
Meaningless jabber.
--
There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don’t want the patient
to get well, because as long as the disease holds out they have not only an
easy means of making a living, but also an easy medium through which to
make themselves prominent before the public.

Booker T. Washington
news13
2015-03-26 04:46:01 UTC
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Post by news13
Post by One Party System
Post by news13
If you are that dumb, why would I bother.Obviously you're part of the
infestation to be wiped out. Gunner is gunna get his great cull.
Stock up on flavouring for all the snowcones.
the infestation to be wiped out
Yes you are quite insane. And a danger to human civilization.
History records that a few civilisations survived on long-pig on the
spit.
Post by news13
Shrug.
Meaningless jabber.
that's why you're no loss.
One Party System
2015-03-26 23:41:04 UTC
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Post by One Party System
Post by news13
Post by One Party System
Post by news13
If you are that dumb, why would I bother.Obviously you're part of the
infestation to be wiped out. Gunner is gunna get his great cull.
Stock up on flavouring for all the snowcones.
the infestation to be wiped out
Yes you are quite insane. And a danger to human civilization.
History records that a few civilisations survived on long-pig on the
spit.
Post by news13
Shrug.
Meaningless jabber.
that's why you're no loss.
Ok, to clarify, you are spewing meaningless jabber and nothing of
scientific plausibility.
--
There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don’t want the patient
to get well, because as long as the disease holds out they have not only an
easy means of making a living, but also an easy medium through which to
make themselves prominent before the public.

Booker T. Washington
news13
2015-03-27 05:11:11 UTC
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Post by One Party System
Ok, to clarify, you are spewing meaningless jabber and nothing of
scientific plausibility.
So you're not prepared for the zombie plague?
Scout
2015-03-27 07:06:02 UTC
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Post by One Party System
Ok, to clarify, you are spewing meaningless jabber and nothing of
scientific plausibility.
So you're not prepared for the zombie plague?
I thought it was already taking place.

After all, people seem to be getting dumber and dumber each decade.
One Party System
2015-03-27 10:56:47 UTC
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Post by Scout
Post by news13
Post by One Party System
Ok, to clarify, you are spewing meaningless jabber and nothing of
scientific plausibility.
So you're not prepared for the zombie plague?
I thought it was already taking place.
After all, people seem to be getting dumber and dumber each decade.
Well there is that. Just instead of brains they want other people's money.
--
There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don’t want the patient
to get well, because as long as the disease holds out they have not only an
easy means of making a living, but also an easy medium through which to
make themselves prominent before the public.

Booker T. Washington
BeamMeUpScotty
2015-03-27 14:03:20 UTC
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Post by Scout
Post by news13
Post by One Party System
Ok, to clarify, you are spewing meaningless jabber and nothing of
scientific plausibility.
So you're not prepared for the zombie plague?
I thought it was already taking place.
After all, people seem to be getting dumber and dumber each decade.
Just look at who they voted for, about 50% of the voters are already
infected.
--
*Rumination*

Snake Oil Salesmen selling "ism" - Cartoon -
news13
2015-03-28 02:24:34 UTC
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Post by Scout
Post by news13
Post by One Party System
Ok, to clarify, you are spewing meaningless jabber and nothing of
scientific plausibility.
So you're not prepared for the zombie plague?
I thought it was already taking place.
After all, people seem to be getting dumber and dumber each decade.
Perspective; people are just as capable in their environments as they
always were. The problem from older person's viewpoint is that they are
not as capable in the environment thery encountered.

Less resiliant and more dependant on assistance, government of otherwise
seems apt, but livable refuge land is in shorter supply.
Rudy Canoza
2015-03-28 05:49:35 UTC
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Post by news13
Post by Scout
Post by news13
Post by One Party System
Ok, to clarify, you are spewing meaningless jabber and nothing of
scientific plausibility.
So you're not prepared for the zombie plague?
I thought it was already taking place.
After all, people seem to be getting dumber and dumber each decade.
Perspective; people are just as capable in their environments as they
always were. The problem from older person's viewpoint is that they are
not as capable in the environment thery encountered.
No, there is a measurable deterioration of standards from every
generation to the next. I'm 62, and I have a university degree from an
accredited university. My mother would be 93 if alive, and I know for
certain she had to work harder and master more difficult subjects, and
more of them, when she graduated from high school and headed to
university. And I know I had to work harder and master more difficult
subjects than any Gen X / Gen Y or Millennial has done.

In days gone by, educated people were truly educated. They studied
philosophy, rhetoric, mathematics, foreign languages, and they learned
to think critically. What passes for "education" today in university is
narrow technical instruction, at best; and to the extent that a degree
is obtained in a program with the word "studies" in the program title,
it's nothing but bullshit political propaganda and hate speech.
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Your first duty is to th' country...is to th' flag, and then...and then
th' army,
and then to...and then to god. Flag, Army, God - F.A.G.

Mark Wieber
75th Rangers, 1971-1973
benj
2015-03-28 06:01:25 UTC
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Post by news13
Post by Scout
Post by news13
Post by One Party System
Ok, to clarify, you are spewing meaningless jabber and nothing of
scientific plausibility.
So you're not prepared for the zombie plague?
I thought it was already taking place.
After all, people seem to be getting dumber and dumber each decade.
Perspective; people are just as capable in their environments as they
always were. The problem from older person's viewpoint is that they are
not as capable in the environment thery encountered.
No, there is a measurable deterioration of standards from every
generation to the next. I'm 62, and I have a university degree from an
accredited university. My mother would be 93 if alive, and I know for
certain she had to work harder and master more difficult subjects, and
more of them, when she graduated from high school and headed to
university. And I know I had to work harder and master more difficult
subjects than any Gen X / Gen Y or Millennial has done.
In days gone by, educated people were truly educated. They studied
philosophy, rhetoric, mathematics, foreign languages, and they learned
to think critically. What passes for "education" today in university is
narrow technical instruction, at best; and to the extent that a degree
is obtained in a program with the word "studies" in the program title,
it's nothing but bullshit political propaganda and hate speech.
Want proof. Take a McGuffy Reader into a High school and ask the SENIORS
to read and explain what they just read. A million yuks.

There is no reason for slaves to learn to read. It just encourages them
to revolt.
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Just Wondering
2015-03-28 08:26:47 UTC
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Post by news13
Post by Scout
Post by news13
Post by One Party System
Ok, to clarify, you are spewing meaningless jabber and nothing of
scientific plausibility.
So you're not prepared for the zombie plague?
I thought it was already taking place.
After all, people seem to be getting dumber and dumber each decade.
Perspective; people are just as capable in their environments as they
always were. The problem from older person's viewpoint is that they are
not as capable in the environment thery encountered.
No, there is a measurable deterioration of standards from every
generation to the next. I'm 62, and I have a university degree from an
accredited university. My mother would be 93 if alive, and I know for
certain she had to work harder and master more difficult subjects, and
more of them, when she graduated from high school and headed to
university. And I know I had to work harder and master more difficult
subjects than any Gen X / Gen Y or Millennial has done.
In days gone by, educated people were truly educated. They studied
philosophy, rhetoric, mathematics, foreign languages, and they learned
to think critically. What passes for "education" today in university is
narrow technical instruction, at best;
Or, if you're a liberal arts major, you learn the first century AD had
only 99 years and to ask "do you want fries with that?"
Post by Rudy Canoza
and to the extent that a degree
is obtained in a program with the word "studies" in the program title,
it's nothing but bullshit political propaganda and hate speech.
David Hartung
2015-03-28 09:00:43 UTC
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I'm totally behind everything that The Heritage Foundation says.

Unlike our military or NASA, they're not funded by the taxpayer.

They're funded by the Koch brothers, a couple of old farts who
inherited all their money from Daddy!

And since great politicians like Slimey Jimmay Inhofe of Oklahoma say
that global warming is uncool because he gets $1 million from them,
that means nothing is wrong.


The NRA doesn't believe in global warming, nor does that inbred,
decrepit pretend Christian from the Bayou Phil Robertson.

Some say that he only got good marks in college because he gave good
head.

The Bible don't mention filthy old hillbillies like Phil Robertson and
his clan because God hates them.

Ducks are polluted with Mercury. The entire family is insane.
m***@hotmail.com
2015-03-28 15:06:11 UTC
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Post by Just Wondering
Post by Rudy Canoza
Post by news13
Post by Scout
Post by news13
Post by One Party System
Ok, to clarify, you are spewing meaningless jabber and nothing of
scientific plausibility.
So you're not prepared for the zombie plague?
I thought it was already taking place.
After all, people seem to be getting dumber and dumber each decade.
Perspective; people are just as capable in their environments as they
always were. The problem from older person's viewpoint is that they are
not as capable in the environment thery encountered.
No, there is a measurable deterioration of standards from every
generation to the next. I'm 62, and I have a university degree from an
accredited university. My mother would be 93 if alive, and I know for
certain she had to work harder and master more difficult subjects, and
more of them, when she graduated from high school and headed to
university. And I know I had to work harder and master more difficult
subjects than any Gen X / Gen Y or Millennial has done.
In days gone by, educated people were truly educated. They
studied philosophy, rhetoric, mathematics, foreign languages,
and they learned to think critically. What passes for "education"
today in university is narrow technical instruction, at best;
Or, if you're a liberal arts major, you learn the first century
AD had only 99 years and to ask "do you want fries with that?"
You are trying to guess and quantify and qualify what is taught before and during college now and in the past and that's impossible.
One Party System
2015-03-28 12:46:58 UTC
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Post by Scout
Post by news13
Post by One Party System
Ok, to clarify, you are spewing meaningless jabber and nothing of
scientific plausibility.
So you're not prepared for the zombie plague?
I thought it was already taking place.
After all, people seem to be getting dumber and dumber each decade.
Perspective; people are just as capable in their environments as they
always were. The problem from older person's viewpoint is that they are
not as capable in the environment thery encountered.
Less resiliant and more dependant on assistance, government of otherwise
seems apt, but livable refuge land is in shorter supply.
Stupud fuck. Have you ever flown or driven cross country? The percentage of
unused and usable land is still much greater than that which is used.
--
There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don’t want the patient
to get well, because as long as the disease holds out they have not only an
easy means of making a living, but also an easy medium through which to
make themselves prominent before the public.

Booker T. Washington
Maurice Miniwheat
2015-03-28 04:50:37 UTC
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Post by Scout
Post by news13
Post by One Party System
Ok, to clarify, you are spewing meaningless jabber and nothing of
scientific plausibility.
So you're not prepared for the zombie plague?
I thought it was already taking place.
After all, people seem to be getting dumber and dumber each decade.
I love how you assholes quote The Heritage Foundation and can't think
on your own.

It's funded mostly by the brothers Koch.


They never made money the old fashioned way.

They inherited it from Daddy!

Which is why slaves like you bow to them. They are like a Royal
Family. Ordained to tell you what to think.

Actually, Donald Trump's the same. And he hates Ted Cruz and Obama,
calling both of the un american.

Limbaugh made his money the new way, just like that fucking socialist
billionaire Warren Buffett, Bill Gates, Steve Jobs and so on.

I bet they had a radio show listened to by millions of assholes during
the afternoon, because they were afraid to hold down a job and weren't
out looking for one.
Rudy Canoza
2015-03-28 05:41:50 UTC
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Post by One Party System
Ok, to clarify, you are spewing meaningless jabber and nothing of
scientific plausibility.
So you're not prepared for the zombie plague?
I thought it was already taking place.
After all, people seem to be getting dumber and dumber each decade.
I love how you assholes quote The Heritage Foundation and can't think on
your own.
Show us your own published peer reviewed scientific publications on
"climate change", cocksucker. Post the citations right here.

You stupid fat fuck.
--
Your first duty is to th' country...is to th' flag, and then...and then
th' army,
and then to...and then to god. Flag, Army, God - F.A.G.

Mark Wieber
75th Rangers, 1971-1973
One Party System
2015-03-27 10:55:59 UTC
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Post by One Party System
Ok, to clarify, you are spewing meaningless jabber and nothing of
scientific plausibility.
So you're not prepared for the zombie plague?
Um, that is the stuff of fiction.

You are not helping to make the case that you are sane.
--
There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don’t want the patient
to get well, because as long as the disease holds out they have not only an
easy means of making a living, but also an easy medium through which to
make themselves prominent before the public.

Booker T. Washington
news13
2015-03-28 02:25:42 UTC
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Post by One Party System
Post by news13
Post by One Party System
Ok, to clarify, you are spewing meaningless jabber and nothing of
scientific plausibility.
So you're not prepared for the zombie plague?
Um, that is the stuff of fiction.
You are not helping to make the case that you are sane.
Hint, they don't give certificates for sanity.
One Party System
2015-03-28 12:47:42 UTC
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Post by One Party System
Post by news13
Post by One Party System
Ok, to clarify, you are spewing meaningless jabber and nothing of
scientific plausibility.
So you're not prepared for the zombie plague?
Um, that is the stuff of fiction.
You are not helping to make the case that you are sane.
Hint, they don't give certificates for sanity.
Agaon, not helping your case.
--
There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don’t want the patient
to get well, because as long as the disease holds out they have not only an
easy means of making a living, but also an easy medium through which to
make themselves prominent before the public.

Booker T. Washington
BeamMeUpScotty
2015-03-27 14:06:59 UTC
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Post by One Party System
Ok, to clarify, you are spewing meaningless jabber and nothing of
scientific plausibility.
So you're not prepared for the zombie plague?
I've been fighting those mindless bastards for a good bit of my life,
zombie/Liberal what ever you call them they're all brain dead.
--
*Rumination*
#67 - The least government necessary is the best government possible.
m***@hotmail.com
2015-03-24 16:57:02 UTC
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Post by news13
Post by Scout
Post by news13
Hint, how many years was it ice ball earth?
Well clearly man is responsible for turning the ice ball earth into the
nice warm place it is today.......or you're going to have to explain why
we shouldn't consider the possibility that what's going on now is just
more of the same natural process.
If you are that dumb, why would I bother.Obviously you're part of the
infestation to be wiped out. Gunner is gunna get his great
cull. Stock up
on flavouring for all the snowcones.
the infestation to be wiped out
Yes you are quite insane. And a danger to human
civilization.
I doubt that anyone (let alone HERE on usenet) would be that infamous. Human civilization has been around since what? 4.4 million years?

-- http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/tech/science/discoveries/2009-10-01-human-chimp-fossil_N.htm
Scout
2015-03-23 17:23:47 UTC
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Post by news13
Post by Scout
Post by news13
Hint, how many years was it ice ball earth?
Well clearly man is responsible for turning the ice ball earth into the
nice warm place it is today.......or you're going to have to explain why
we shouldn't consider the possibility that what's going on now is just
more of the same natural process.
If you are that dumb, why would I bother.Obviously you're part of the
infestation to be wiped out. Gunner is gunna get his great cull. Stock up
on flavouring for all the snowcones.
IOW, I point at a flaw in your reasoning, and all you've got is spittle
filled hatred and insults as your rebuttal?
Gunner Asch
2015-03-23 18:05:24 UTC
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On Mon, 23 Mar 2015 13:23:47 -0400, "Scout"
Post by Scout
Post by news13
Post by Scout
Post by news13
Hint, how many years was it ice ball earth?
Well clearly man is responsible for turning the ice ball earth into the
nice warm place it is today.......or you're going to have to explain why
we shouldn't consider the possibility that what's going on now is just
more of the same natural process.
If you are that dumb, why would I bother.Obviously you're part of the
infestation to be wiped out. Gunner is gunna get his great cull. Stock up
on flavouring for all the snowcones.
IOW, I point at a flaw in your reasoning, and all you've got is spittle
filled hatred and insults as your rebuttal?
Did you expect anything else from the mental case?


"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child,
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats."
PJ O'Rourke
news13
2015-03-24 10:58:12 UTC
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Post by Gunner Asch
On Mon, 23 Mar 2015 13:23:47 -0400, "Scout"
Post by Scout
Post by news13
Post by Scout
Post by news13
Hint, how many years was it ice ball earth?
Well clearly man is responsible for turning the ice ball earth into
the nice warm place it is today.......or you're going to have to
explain why we shouldn't consider the possibility that what's going
on now is just more of the same natural process.
If you are that dumb, why would I bother.Obviously you're part of the
infestation to be wiped out. Gunner is gunna get his great cull. Stock
up on flavouring for all the snowcones.
IOW, I point at a flaw in your reasoning, and all you've got is spittle
filled hatred and insults as your rebuttal?
Did you expect anything else from the mental case?
From you? No.
news13
2015-03-24 10:57:23 UTC
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Post by Scout
Post by news13
Post by Scout
Post by news13
Hint, how many years was it ice ball earth?
Well clearly man is responsible for turning the ice ball earth into
the nice warm place it is today.......or you're going to have to
explain why we shouldn't consider the possibility that what's going on
now is just more of the same natural process.
If you are that dumb, why would I bother.Obviously you're part of the
infestation to be wiped out. Gunner is gunna get his great cull. Stock
up on flavouring for all the snowcones.
IOW, I point at a flaw in your reasoning, and all you've got is spittle
filled hatred and insults as your rebuttal?
Bullshit, you're gross stupidity has been exposed. Did you go to the
christian equivalent of a madrass? As that is the only excuse for not
remembering a whole pile of information that is generic in western
schooling. Get off the porn channel and get onto some educational
channels.
One Party System
2015-03-24 11:15:22 UTC
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Post by news13
Post by Scout
Post by news13
Post by Scout
Post by news13
Hint, how many years was it ice ball earth?
Well clearly man is responsible for turning the ice ball earth into
the nice warm place it is today.......or you're going to have to
explain why we shouldn't consider the possibility that what's going on
now is just more of the same natural process.
If you are that dumb, why would I bother.Obviously you're part of the
infestation to be wiped out. Gunner is gunna get his great cull. Stock
up on flavouring for all the snowcones.
IOW, I point at a flaw in your reasoning, and all you've got is spittle
filled hatred and insults as your rebuttal?
Bullshit, you're gross stupidity has been exposed. Did you go to the
christian equivalent of a madrass? As that is the only excuse for not
remembering a whole pile of information that is generic in western
schooling. Get off the porn channel and get onto some educational
channels.
Ah, marvelous. Now attack his religion. Even though it hasn't been part of
the discussion. Clearly your religion is that of Pangea.

And just BTW, it is your lkind who seems sorely lacking in what basic
science skills.
--
There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don’t want the patient
to get well, because as long as the disease holds out they have not only an
easy means of making a living, but also an easy medium through which to
make themselves prominent before the public.

Booker T. Washington
Bert
2015-03-24 13:38:11 UTC
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Bullshit, you're gross stupidity
Your.
--
***@iphouse.com St. Paul, MN
One Party System
2015-03-25 11:32:46 UTC
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Post by news13
Bullshit, you're gross stupidity
Speaking of stupid...
--
There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don’t want the patient
to get well, because as long as the disease holds out they have not only an
easy means of making a living, but also an easy medium through which to make
themselves prominent before the public.

Booker T. Washington
One Party System
2015-03-24 04:05:58 UTC
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Post by news13
Post by Scout
Post by news13
Hint, how many years was it ice ball earth?
Well clearly man is responsible for turning the ice ball earth into the
nice warm place it is today.......or you're going to have to explain why
we shouldn't consider the possibility that what's going on now is just
more of the same natural process.
If you are that dumb, why would I bother.Obviously you're part of the
infestation to be wiped out. Gunner is gunna get his great cull. Stock up
on flavouring for all the snowcones.
Ok, so I point out that the earth is 4.5 billion years old and now i'll
point out that oxygen breathing life has been around for at least 2 billion
years.

You want us to panic at a few decades of questionable data.

That would be a more a religion than science cupcake.

And stomping your foot and saying nasty things won't change that.
--
There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don’t want the patient
to get well, because as long as the disease holds out they have not only an
easy means of making a living, but also an easy medium through which to
make themselves prominent before the public.

Booker T. Washington
news13
2015-03-24 11:27:31 UTC
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Post by One Party System
Post by news13
Post by Scout
Post by news13
Hint, how many years was it ice ball earth?
Well clearly man is responsible for turning the ice ball earth into
the nice warm place it is today.......or you're going to have to
explain why we shouldn't consider the possibility that what's going on
now is just more of the same natural process.
If you are that dumb, why would I bother.Obviously you're part of the
infestation to be wiped out. Gunner is gunna get his great cull. Stock
up on flavouring for all the snowcones.
Ok, so I point out that the earth is 4.5 billion years old and now i'll
point out that oxygen breathing life has been around for at least 2
billion years.
If you are just rooting for "oxygen breathing life", then you've nothing
to worry about, but if your hoping your descendants will still be
enjoyuing a life style similar to your current lifestyle, then that is a
whole different ball game.
Post by One Party System
You want us to panic at a few decades of questionable data.
Is leaving things until it is too late and then panicing you're usual
approach or are you a head in the sand man?

The "data" goes back centuries, if not millenia from some sources.

The bitching is that a certain committee treated the public the same way
pollies do and are paying the price for it.
Post by One Party System
That would be a more a religion than science cupcake.
Following a religion is what you seem to be doing.
BTW, Science is a process and not the results.

I've been looking at various sources of information to reach my approach.
My 2c is that people will approach this the same way they did the health
and smoking warnings, the sub-prime fiasco warning and similar events in
the past. The sheeple are consistent.
Scout
2015-03-25 07:32:14 UTC
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Post by One Party System
Post by news13
Post by Scout
Post by news13
Hint, how many years was it ice ball earth?
Well clearly man is responsible for turning the ice ball earth into
the nice warm place it is today.......or you're going to have to
explain why we shouldn't consider the possibility that what's going on
now is just more of the same natural process.
If you are that dumb, why would I bother.Obviously you're part of the
infestation to be wiped out. Gunner is gunna get his great cull. Stock
up on flavouring for all the snowcones.
Ok, so I point out that the earth is 4.5 billion years old and now i'll
point out that oxygen breathing life has been around for at least 2
billion years.
If you are just rooting for "oxygen breathing life", then you've nothing
to worry about, but if your hoping your descendants will still be
enjoyuing a life style similar to your current lifestyle, then that is a
whole different ball game.
Post by One Party System
You want us to panic at a few decades of questionable data.
Is leaving things until it is too late and then panicing you're usual
approach or are you a head in the sand man?
The "data" goes back centuries, if not millenia from some sources.
Yes, the data goes back centuries, but often not in a method that is
adequately controlled and global in scale to obtain the necessary accuracy
and precision needed.

The other sources all depend on a rather large number of ASSUMPTIONS, you
know what those are right?

And speaking of those sources, what does that data show....it gets hotter,
then it gets colder, then it gets hotter, then it gets colder, then it gets
hotter......

We're not a a point in history in which the natural trend according to this
data is for us to get hotter, until we reach a point where it starts to get
colder....a lot colder.

So are you saying man was responsible for all those past periods of global
warming?
news13
2015-03-26 04:45:20 UTC
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So are you saying man was responsible for all those past periods of
global warming?
Copious Strawmans ignored. are you saying that 7-8 billion arseholes have
no effect? Did you misds something as simple as the temeperature change
from 911?
Scout
2015-03-26 05:44:33 UTC
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Post by Scout
So are you saying man was responsible for all those past periods of
global warming?
Copious Strawmans ignored.
Since you can't claim that man was responsible for the prior periods of
global warming, then why should we accept that man has to be responsible for
this one?
news13
2015-03-27 05:10:01 UTC
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Post by Scout
Post by news13
Post by Scout
So are you saying man was responsible for all those past periods of
global warming?
Copious Strawmans ignored.
Since you can't claim that man was responsible for the prior periods of
global warming, then why should we accept that man has to be responsible
for this one?
Again, the exaggeration strawman and 7-8 billion arseholes say otherwise.
One Party System
2015-03-27 10:55:05 UTC
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Post by Scout
Post by news13
Post by Scout
So are you saying man was responsible for all those past periods of
global warming?
Copious Strawmans ignored.
Since you can't claim that man was responsible for the prior periods of
global warming, then why should we accept that man has to be responsible
for this one?
Again, the exaggeration strawman and 7-8 billion arseholes say otherwise.
The exageration strawman?

And 7-8 billion arseholes? Is it that you just hate your fellow man? Do you
despise humanity?
--
There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don’t want the patient
to get well, because as long as the disease holds out they have not only an
easy means of making a living, but also an easy medium through which to
make themselves prominent before the public.

Booker T. Washington
Rudy Canoza
2015-03-26 05:49:04 UTC
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Post by Scout
So are you saying man was responsible for all those past periods of
global warming?
Copious Strawmans ignored.
The term is "straw man", you ignorant fuckwit. As a result, the plural
is "straw men."

Of course, you haven't shown that there was any straw man argument. You
couldn't - you're too stupid for it.
--
Your first duty is to th' country...is to th' flag, and then...and then
th' army,
and then to...and then to god. Flag, Army, God - F.A.G.

Mark Wieber
75th Rangers, 1971-1973
One Party System
2015-03-26 23:39:22 UTC
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Post by news13
Post by Scout
So are you saying man was responsible for all those past periods of
global warming?
Copious Strawmans ignored. are you saying that 7-8 billion arseholes have
no effect? Did you misds something as simple as the temeperature change
from 911?
As aelf lathiung human you should kill yuurself.

Another 911 conspiracy! Do tell.
--
There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don’t want the patient
to get well, because as long as the disease holds out they have not only an
easy means of making a living, but also an easy medium through which to make
themselves prominent before the public.

Booker T. Washington
news13
2015-03-27 05:08:34 UTC
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Post by One Party System
Post by news13
Copious Strawmans ignored. are you saying that 7-8 billion arseholes
have no effect? Did you misds something as simple as the temeperature
change from 911?
As aelf lathiung human you should kill yuurself.
I haven't finished all the bombs yet.
Post by One Party System
Another 911 conspiracy! Do tell.
Nothing to do with conspiracy. In the USA temperature logs.
One Party System
2015-03-27 10:51:35 UTC
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Post by news13
Post by One Party System
Post by news13
Copious Strawmans ignored. are you saying that 7-8 billion arseholes
have no effect? Did you misds something as simple as the temeperature
change from 911?
As aelf lathiung human you should kill yuurself.
I haven't finished all the bombs yet.
So you are planning on killing yourself or others?
Post by news13
Post by One Party System
Another 911 conspiracy! Do tell.
Nothing to do with conspiracy. In the USA temperature logs.
Where would a sane, normal person find this data?
--
There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don’t want the patient
to get well, because as long as the disease holds out they have not only an
easy means of making a living, but also an easy medium through which to
make themselves prominent before the public.

Booker T. Washington
BeamMeUpScotty
2015-03-27 14:08:32 UTC
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Post by news13
Post by One Party System
Post by news13
Copious Strawmans ignored. are you saying that 7-8 billion arseholes
have no effect? Did you misds something as simple as the temeperature
change from 911?
As aelf lathiung human you should kill yuurself.
I haven't finished all the bombs yet.
Post by One Party System
Another 911 conspiracy! Do tell.
Nothing to do with conspiracy. In the USA temperature logs.
Or how they are "adjusted"?
--
*Rumination*
#1.0.1 - Socialists live in fear of anyone that promotes the notion of
self-sufficiency and responsible behavior.
One Party System
2015-03-25 11:12:58 UTC
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Post by One Party System
Post by news13
Post by Scout
Post by news13
Hint, how many years was it ice ball earth?
Well clearly man is responsible for turning the ice ball earth into
the nice warm place it is today.......or you're going to have to
explain why we shouldn't consider the possibility that what's going on
now is just more of the same natural process.
If you are that dumb, why would I bother.Obviously you're part of the
infestation to be wiped out. Gunner is gunna get his great cull. Stock
up on flavouring for all the snowcones.
Ok, so I point out that the earth is 4.5 billion years old and now i'll
point out that oxygen breathing life has been around for at least 2
billion years.
If you are just rooting for "oxygen breathing life", then you've nothing
to worry about, but if your hoping your descendants will still be
enjoyuing a life style similar to your current lifestyle, then that is a
whole different ball game.
If I want my descendants to live a better life than me I need to stop you
Druids from destroying the economy.
Post by news13
Post by One Party System
You want us to panic at a few decades of questionable data.
Is leaving things until it is too late and then panicing you're usual
approach or are you a head in the sand man?
Oh please. the data and the projections are fanciful as well as your
conclusions.
Post by news13
The "data" goes back centuries, if not millenia from some sources.
Really? Produce it.
Post by news13
The bitching is that a certain committee treated the public the same way
pollies do and are paying the price for it.
A certain comittee? IPCC DEPENDS on climate panic for it's existence and
thier cushy well paid jobs. Mikey LIED. Period.
Post by news13
Post by One Party System
That would be a more a religion than science cupcake.
Following a religion is what you seem to be doing.
BTW, Science is a process and not the results.
No. I'm saying look at the science, unaltered by poltically motivated
hacks.
Post by news13
I've been looking at various sources of information to reach my approach.
My 2c is that people will approach this the same way they did the health
and smoking warnings, the sub-prime fiasco warning and similar events in
the past. The sheeple are consistent.
So give us your sources.
--
There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don’t want the patient
to get well, because as long as the disease holds out they have not only an
easy means of making a living, but also an easy medium through which to
make themselves prominent before the public.

Booker T. Washington
w***@post.com
2015-03-25 18:19:43 UTC
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Post by One Party System
Post by news13
Post by One Party System
Post by news13
Post by Scout
Post by news13
Hint, how many years was it ice ball earth?
Well clearly man is responsible for turning the ice ball earth into
the nice warm place it is today.......or you're going to have to
explain why we shouldn't consider the possibility that what's going on
now is just more of the same natural process.
If you are that dumb, why would I bother.Obviously you're part of the
infestation to be wiped out. Gunner is gunna get his great cull. Stock
up on flavouring for all the snowcones.
Ok, so I point out that the earth is 4.5 billion years old and now i'll
point out that oxygen breathing life has been around for at least 2
billion years.
If you are just rooting for "oxygen breathing life", then you've nothing
to worry about, but if your hoping your descendants will still be
enjoyuing a life style similar to your current lifestyle, then that is a
whole different ball game.
If I want my descendants to live a better life than me I need to stop you
Druids from destroying the economy.
Post by news13
Post by One Party System
You want us to panic at a few decades of questionable data.
Is leaving things until it is too late and then panicing you're usual
approach or are you a head in the sand man?
Oh please. the data and the projections are fanciful as well as your
conclusions.
Post by news13
The "data" goes back centuries, if not millenia from some sources.
Really? Produce it.
Post by news13
The bitching is that a certain committee treated the public the same way
pollies do and are paying the price for it.
A certain comittee? IPCC DEPENDS on climate panic for it's existence and
thier cushy well paid jobs. Mikey LIED. Period.
Post by news13
Post by One Party System
That would be a more a religion than science cupcake.
Following a religion is what you seem to be doing.
BTW, Science is a process and not the results.
No. I'm saying look at the science, unaltered by poltically motivated
hacks.
Post by news13
I've been looking at various sources of information to reach my approach.
My 2c is that people will approach this the same way they did the health
and smoking warnings, the sub-prime fiasco warning and similar events in
the past. The sheeple are consistent.
So give us your sources.
"14 of the last 15 years since 2000, have been the warmest in history"

-- https://digesthis.wordpress.com/category/creativity/
Stronzo Bestiale
2015-03-26 16:13:13 UTC
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Post by Scout
Post by news13
Hint, how many years was it ice ball earth?
Well clearly man is responsible for turning the ice ball earth into the
nice warm place it is today.......or you're going to have to explain why
we shouldn't consider the possibility that what's going on now is just
more of the same natural process.
If you are that dumb, why would I bother.Obviously you're part of the
infestation to be wiped out. Gunner is gunna get his great cull. Stock up
on flavouring for all the snowcones.
Yu is ignormant, cant spel, run sentences, slopy
One Party System
2015-03-23 11:21:13 UTC
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Post by One Party System
Must have some effect? Well then, present your evidence. or just kill
yourself if you think man is the poroblem.
You mean the situation in NY is not a good enough example?
What situation in NY are you refering to? The corrupt IPCC?
Post by news13
Post by One Party System
The earth is 4.5 billion years old. To extrapolate trends from a few
decades of questionable data is beyond unscientific, it is quite
preposterous. People whose lives have little meaning in search of meaning.
Is that why you mae your post.
Yep, the earth might be estimated to be about 4.5 billion years old, but
how long has it been habitable for humans? That is the question.
Nice dodge. But the answer would be 100s of millions of years. We could
have lived contemparaneously with dinosaurs back to the Jurrasic and even
earlier.
Post by news13
Hint, how many years was it ice ball earth?
Not for long.
Post by news13
The quote on slashdot showed what an out of touch whacko that guy really
was. Basically "plants live in a carbon starvation situation", thus
implying that increased Co2 would be great, but what he ignored is the
research that given a richer carbon environment, our food plants look
after their own interests and become course roughage at best.
Um, increased CO2 would be of a great beneit to plants, I don';t know what
the fuck you are talking about.
Post by news13
Post by One Party System
Sad.
that you are not looking and wondering is correct.
Frankly who knows, but party-party-party doesn't seem the best approach.
Who is suggesting that, pot head?
--
There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don’t want the patient
to get well, because as long as the disease holds out they have not only an
easy means of making a living, but also an easy medium through which to
make themselves prominent before the public.

Booker T. Washington
news13
2015-03-24 11:34:25 UTC
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Post by news13
Yep, the earth might be estimated to be about 4.5 billion years old,
but how long has it been habitable for humans? That is the question.
Nice dodge. But the answer would be 100s of millions of years. We could
have lived contemparaneously with dinosaurs back to the Jurrasic and
even earlier.
hahahahahaha.
Just Wondering
2015-03-24 16:28:01 UTC
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Post by One Party System
Post by news13
Yep, the earth might be estimated to be about 4.5 billion years old,
but how long has it been habitable for humans? That is the question.
Nice dodge. But the answer would be 100s of millions of years. We could
have lived contemparaneously with dinosaurs back to the Jurrasic and
even earlier.
hahahahahaha.
hahaha your own sorry self. We DO live with dinosaurs.
http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/diapsids/avians.html
http://paleocave.sciencesortof.com/2013/06/why-are-birds-dinosaurs/
news13
2015-03-26 04:47:56 UTC
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Post by One Party System
Post by news13
Yep, the earth might be estimated to be about 4.5 billion years old,
but how long has it been habitable for humans? That is the question.
Nice dodge. But the answer would be 100s of millions of years. We
could have lived contemparaneously with dinosaurs back to the Jurrasic
and even earlier.
hahahahahaha.
hahaha your own sorry self. We DO live with dinosaurs.
Apparently we live with the descendants of dinosaurs, but that is
irrelevant to the claim above and the global snow ball exit..
Just Wondering
2015-03-26 08:10:45 UTC
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Post by Just Wondering
Post by news13
Post by One Party System
Post by news13
Yep, the earth might be estimated to be about 4.5 billion years old,
but how long has it been habitable for humans? That is the question.
Nice dodge. But the answer would be 100s of millions of years. We
could have lived contemparaneously with dinosaurs back to the Jurrasic
and even earlier.
hahahahahaha.
hahaha your own sorry self. We DO live with dinosaurs.
Apparently we live with the descendants of dinosaurs,
Not merely "descendants" of dinosaurs. Modern science says birds
actually ARE dinosaurs.
Jim Wilkins
2015-03-26 11:23:42 UTC
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Post by Just Wondering
Post by news13
Post by Just Wondering
Post by news13
Post by One Party System
Post by news13
Yep, the earth might be estimated to be about 4.5 billion years old,
but how long has it been habitable for humans? That is the question.
Nice dodge. But the answer would be 100s of millions of years. We
could have lived contemparaneously with dinosaurs back to the Jurrasic
and even earlier.
hahahahahaha.
hahaha your own sorry self. We DO live with dinosaurs.
Apparently we live with the descendants of dinosaurs,
Not merely "descendants" of dinosaurs. Modern science says birds
actually ARE dinosaurs.
We still have large reptiles -older- than dinosaurs, the crocodiles.
http://dinosaurs.about.com/od/typesofdinosaurs/a/crocodilians.htm
news13
2015-03-27 05:13:37 UTC
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We still have large reptiles -older- than dinosaurs, the crocodiles.
http://dinosaurs.about.com/od/typesofdinosaurs/a/crocodilians.htm
No that is a survival story. Been around before the dino's.
BeamMeUpScotty
2015-03-26 16:29:05 UTC
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Post by news13
Post by Just Wondering
Post by news13
Post by One Party System
Post by news13
Yep, the earth might be estimated to be about 4.5 billion years old,
but how long has it been habitable for humans? That is the question.
Nice dodge. But the answer would be 100s of millions of years. We
could have lived contemparaneously with dinosaurs back to the Jurrasic
and even earlier.
hahahahahaha.
hahaha your own sorry self. We DO live with dinosaurs.
Apparently we live with the descendants of dinosaurs, but that is
irrelevant to the claim above and the global snow ball exit..
Why would an asteroid kill only the larger dinosaurs?


Would it also start an ice age or end of the world heat from all the CO2
when everything burned due to the "asteroid blast that killed all those
dinosaurs"?


All the Co2 from the dead or burnt vegetation (carbon life) that starved
or flash cooked the large dinosaurs would have created global warming
NOT an ice age....


The Co2 must have gone off the charts when all the trees died or burned.



["""""""The Eocene Epoch contained a wide variety of different climate
conditions that includes the warmest climate in the Cenozoic Era and
ends in an icehouse climate. The evolution of the Eocene climate began
with warming after the end of the Palaeocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum
(PETM) at 56 million years ago to a maximum during the Eocene Optimum at
around 49 million years ago. During this period of time, little to no
ice was present on Earth with a smaller difference in temperature from
the equator to the poles. Following the maximum was a descent into an
icehouse climate from the Eocene Optimum to the Eocene-Oligocene
transition at 34 million years ago. During this decrease ice began to
reappear at the poles, and the Eocene-Oligocene transition is the period
of time where the Antarctic ice sheet began to rapidly expand.

Atmospheric greenhouse gas evolution

Greenhouse gases, in particular carbon dioxide and methane, played a
significant role during the Eocene in controlling the surface
temperature. The end of the PETM was met with a very large sequestration
of carbon dioxide in the form of methane clathrate, coal, and crude oil
at the bottom of the Arctic Ocean, that reduced the atmospheric carbon
dioxide.[5] This event was similar in magnitude to the massive release
of greenhouse gasses at the beginning of the PETM, and it is
hypothesized that the sequestration was mainly due to organic carbon
burial and weathering of silicates. For the early Eocene there is much
discussion on how much carbon dioxide is in the atmosphere. This is due
to numerous proxies representing different atmospheric carbon dioxide
content. For example, diverse geochemical and paleontological proxies
indicate that at the maximum of global warmth the atmospheric carbon
dioxide values were at 700 – 900 ppm[6] while other proxies such as
pedogenic (soil building) carbonate and marine boron isotopes indicate
large changes of carbon dioxide of over 2,000 ppm over periods of time
of less than 1 million years.[7] Sources for this large influx of carbon
dioxide could be attributed to volcanic out-gassing due to North
Atlantic rifting or oxidation of methane stored in large reservoirs
deposited from the PETM event in the sea floor or wetland
environments.[6] For contrast, today the carbon dioxide levels are at
400 ppm or 0.04%.

At about the beginning of the Eocene Epoch (55.8-33.9 million years ago)
the amount of oxygen in the earth's atmosphere more or less
doubled.[8]"""""""""]

The doubling of Oxygen says something changed, and it was maybe
something like a new plankton or plankton bloom or something else like a
chemical reaction from a (GRB) Gamma Ray Burst destroying the ozone and
nature produced more Oxygen after a genetic mutation




If dinosaurs lived through 1,000 - 2,000ppm Co2 until they were birds
and we reached a low of 300ppm in recent centuries then humans can
probably make it.


And how did Oxygen double when it's consumed by all that carbon burning
from an asteroid that killed the dinosaurs and burned up all the plant
life they used for food? Something doesn't add up in the asteroid
scenario.... Death by fire doesn't seem likely so it was nuclear winter
from an asteroid or (GRB) Gamma Ray Burst which would have also
triggered mass DNA mutation.


They even touch above on what I said here long ago, that there is NOT
any global warming but a global homogenization of the temperature...
Pole to equator the temperature has a smaller difference between the
poles to the equator.
--
*Rumination*
"I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself. A small bird will drop
frozen dead from a bough without ever having felt sorry for itself."
-D. H. Lawrence-
Rudy Canoza
2015-03-26 17:24:47 UTC
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Post by BeamMeUpScotty
Post by news13
Post by Just Wondering
Post by news13
Post by One Party System
Post by news13
Yep, the earth might be estimated to be about 4.5 billion years old,
but how long has it been habitable for humans? That is the question.
Nice dodge. But the answer would be 100s of millions of years. We
could have lived contemparaneously with dinosaurs back to the Jurrasic
and even earlier.
hahahahahaha.
hahaha your own sorry self. We DO live with dinosaurs.
Apparently we live with the descendants of dinosaurs, but that is
irrelevant to the claim above and the global snow ball exit..
Why would an asteroid kill only the larger dinosaurs?
Would it also start an ice age or end of the world heat from all the CO2
when everything burned due to the "asteroid blast that killed all those
dinosaurs"?
All the Co2 from the dead or burnt vegetation (carbon life) that starved
or flash cooked the large dinosaurs would have created global warming
NOT an ice age....
No, stupid. The massive amount of dust put into the atmosphere
prevented sunlight from reaching and warming the earth. CO2 holds in
heat caused by sunlight striking the earth's surface, but if less
sunlight reaches the earth's surface, there is less heat to hold in,
regardless of how much CO2 is in the atmosphere.

You never fail to show your stupidity.
--
Your first duty is to th' country...is to th' flag, and then...and then
th' army,
and then to...and then to god. Flag, Army, God - F.A.G.

Mark Wieber
75th Rangers, 1971-1973
One Party System
2015-03-26 23:43:21 UTC
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Post by news13
Post by Just Wondering
Post by news13
Post by One Party System
Post by news13
Yep, the earth might be estimated to be about 4.5 billion years old,
but how long has it been habitable for humans? That is the question.
Nice dodge. But the answer would be 100s of millions of years. We
could have lived contemparaneously with dinosaurs back to the Jurrasic
and even earlier.
hahahahahaha.
hahaha your own sorry self. We DO live with dinosaurs.
Apparently we live with the descendants of dinosaurs, but that is
irrelevant to the claim above and the global snow ball exit..
So the fact that we could have been breathing the atmosphere 100 million
years ago or more has not meaning to you?

But 4 decades of doctored data do?

There is no ignoring Micheal Mann and his idiot hockey stick. It's just
baloney, bad, bad scientific method.
--
There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don’t want the patient
to get well, because as long as the disease holds out they have not only an
easy means of making a living, but also an easy medium through which to
make themselves prominent before the public.

Booker T. Washington
benj
2015-03-27 03:03:34 UTC
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Post by One Party System
Post by news13
Post by Just Wondering
Post by news13
Post by One Party System
Post by news13
Yep, the earth might be estimated to be about 4.5 billion years old,
but how long has it been habitable for humans? That is the question.
Nice dodge. But the answer would be 100s of millions of years. We
could have lived contemparaneously with dinosaurs back to the Jurrasic
and even earlier.
hahahahahaha.
hahaha your own sorry self. We DO live with dinosaurs.
Apparently we live with the descendants of dinosaurs, but that is
irrelevant to the claim above and the global snow ball exit..
So the fact that we could have been breathing the atmosphere 100 million
years ago or more has not meaning to you?
But 4 decades of doctored data do?
There is no ignoring Micheal Mann and his idiot hockey stick. It's just
baloney, bad, bad scientific method.
You know nothing! I just saw on the TV news that in Oklahoma they've
just experienced something new called "tornadoes" that have caused
horrible devastation to numerous mobile homes, flipped over a pickup and
smashed a Gym filled with children! Oh the Humanity! It's pretty much
settled science that all this destruction nobody has ever seen before is
caused by the lack of a trillion dollar energy tax! It all seems
reasonable to me but I only know what I see on TV.
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BeamMeUpScotty
2015-03-27 14:12:57 UTC
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Post by benj
Post by One Party System
Post by news13
Post by Just Wondering
Post by news13
Post by One Party System
Post by news13
Yep, the earth might be estimated to be about 4.5 billion years old,
but how long has it been habitable for humans? That is the question.
Nice dodge. But the answer would be 100s of millions of years. We
could have lived contemparaneously with dinosaurs back to the Jurrasic
and even earlier.
hahahahahaha.
hahaha your own sorry self. We DO live with dinosaurs.
Apparently we live with the descendants of dinosaurs, but that is
irrelevant to the claim above and the global snow ball exit..
So the fact that we could have been breathing the atmosphere 100 million
years ago or more has not meaning to you?
But 4 decades of doctored data do?
There is no ignoring Micheal Mann and his idiot hockey stick. It's just
baloney, bad, bad scientific method.
You know nothing! I just saw on the TV news that in Oklahoma they've
just experienced something new called "tornadoes" that have caused
horrible devastation to numerous mobile homes, flipped over a pickup and
smashed a Gym filled with children! Oh the Humanity! It's pretty much
settled science that all this destruction nobody has ever seen before is
caused by the lack of a trillion dollar energy tax! It all seems
reasonable to me but I only know what I see on TV.
Sounds like you've been watching the Matrix network... where the entire
world is put through a meat grinder type of Liberal propaganda and it
all comes out as a Matrix that's devoid of any reality.
--
*Rumination*
#45 - If you haven't found the lie in what a Liberal told you, then you
didn't dig deep enough.
Jim Wilkins
2015-03-27 14:48:21 UTC
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"BeamMeUpScotty"
Post by BeamMeUpScotty
Post by benj
Post by One Party System
Post by news13
Post by Just Wondering
Post by news13
Post by One Party System
Post by news13
Yep, the earth might be estimated to be about 4.5 billion years old,
but how long has it been habitable for humans? That is the question.
Nice dodge. But the answer would be 100s of millions of years. We
could have lived contemparaneously with dinosaurs back to the Jurrasic
and even earlier.
hahahahahaha.
hahaha your own sorry self. We DO live with dinosaurs.
Apparently we live with the descendants of dinosaurs, but that is
irrelevant to the claim above and the global snow ball exit..
So the fact that we could have been breathing the atmosphere 100 million
years ago or more has not meaning to you?
But 4 decades of doctored data do?
There is no ignoring Micheal Mann and his idiot hockey stick. It's just
baloney, bad, bad scientific method.
You know nothing! I just saw on the TV news that in Oklahoma
they've
just experienced something new called "tornadoes" that have caused
horrible devastation to numerous mobile homes, flipped over a
pickup and
smashed a Gym filled with children! Oh the Humanity! It's pretty much
settled science that all this destruction nobody has ever seen before is
caused by the lack of a trillion dollar energy tax! It all seems
reasonable to me but I only know what I see on TV.
Sounds like you've been watching the Matrix network... where the entire
world is put through a meat grinder type of Liberal propaganda and it
all comes out as a Matrix that's devoid of any reality.
--
*Rumination*
#45 - If you haven't found the lie in what a Liberal told you, then you
didn't dig deep enough.
http://www.climatedepot.com/2013/02/03/top-swedish-climate-scientist-says-warming-not-noticeable-the-warming-we-have-had-last-a-100-years-is-so-small-that-if-we-didnt-have-climatologists-to-measure-it-we-wouldnt-have-noticed-it-at-all/

http://tinyurl.com/nfgeopy
BeamMeUpScotty
2015-03-27 17:25:45 UTC
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"BeamMeUpScotty"
Post by BeamMeUpScotty
Post by benj
Post by One Party System
Post by news13
Post by Just Wondering
Post by news13
Post by One Party System
Post by news13
Yep, the earth might be estimated to be about 4.5 billion years old,
but how long has it been habitable for humans? That is the question.
Nice dodge. But the answer would be 100s of millions of years. We
could have lived contemparaneously with dinosaurs back to the Jurrasic
and even earlier.
hahahahahaha.
hahaha your own sorry self. We DO live with dinosaurs.
Apparently we live with the descendants of dinosaurs, but that is
irrelevant to the claim above and the global snow ball exit..
So the fact that we could have been breathing the atmosphere 100 million
years ago or more has not meaning to you?
But 4 decades of doctored data do?
There is no ignoring Micheal Mann and his idiot hockey stick. It's just
baloney, bad, bad scientific method.
You know nothing! I just saw on the TV news that in Oklahoma
they've
just experienced something new called "tornadoes" that have caused
horrible devastation to numerous mobile homes, flipped over a pickup and
smashed a Gym filled with children! Oh the Humanity! It's pretty much
settled science that all this destruction nobody has ever seen before is
caused by the lack of a trillion dollar energy tax! It all seems
reasonable to me but I only know what I see on TV.
Sounds like you've been watching the Matrix network... where the entire
world is put through a meat grinder type of Liberal propaganda and it
all comes out as a Matrix that's devoid of any reality.
--
*Rumination*
#45 - If you haven't found the lie in what a Liberal told you, then you
didn't dig deep enough.
http://www.climatedepot.com/2013/02/03/top-swedish-climate-scientist-says-warming-not-noticeable-the-warming-we-have-had-last-a-100-years-is-so-small-that-if-we-didnt-have-climatologists-to-measure-it-we-wouldnt-have-noticed-it-at-all/
http://tinyurl.com/nfgeopy
since I haven't noticed it.... The Swedish scientists is right.
--
*Rumination*
Government produces NOTHING... NOT wealth and NOT products for
consumption. And without those, Government has nothing to redistribute.

Obama is NOT redistributing what counts, and that is the ability to
create wealth and products "that is *NOT* something Obama can transfer
"just like he can't write an executive order creating another Mozart"
instead Obama is attacking wealth creation and attacking production and
the people that do it.... the result is less of both so he has less and
less to redistribute. What's sad is that Obama the Socialist, isn't
even a very smart Socialist. How can you redistribute what you don't
have, the French "Socialist Prime Minister" learned that in less time
than Obama and the French Prime Minister wasn't touted as the Harvard
Genius that Obama was.
Jim Wilkins
2015-03-27 18:17:26 UTC
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"BeamMeUpScotty"
Post by BeamMeUpScotty
Post by Jim Wilkins
http://www.climatedepot.com/2013/02/03/top-swedish-climate-scientist-says-warming-not-noticeable-the-warming-we-have-had-last-a-100-years-is-so-small-that-if-we-didnt-have-climatologists-to-measure-it-we-wouldnt-have-noticed-it-at-all/
http://tinyurl.com/nfgeopy
since I haven't noticed it.... The Swedish scientists is right.
I just made the sensitive thermometer in my kitchen rise by 0.3 degree
C by getting close to read it. And they fuss over hundredths!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/environment/globalwarming/11395516/The-fiddling-with-temperature-data-is-the-biggest-science-scandal-ever.html

-jsw
news13
2015-03-27 05:18:05 UTC
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Post by One Party System
So the fact that we could have been breathing the atmosphere 100 million
years ago or more has not meaning to you?
You might want to check that factoid. tgoo much oxygen might be toxic to
our bodies. There is still the issue of food.
Post by One Party System
But 4 decades of doctored data do?
The data has not been doctored.
The interpretation is what the argument is about.
In aus.survival, there is a like to the various sets of raw data for you
to analyse yourself.

Or look for articles about why the data is "interpreted" and the various
tests to show that recordsing data different ways gives different
readings.
One Party System
2015-03-27 11:01:59 UTC
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Post by news13
Post by One Party System
So the fact that we could have been breathing the atmosphere 100 million
years ago or more has not meaning to you?
You might want to check that factoid. tgoo much oxygen might be toxic to
our bodies. There is still the issue of food.
Really? At what concentration of atmospheric oxygen does it become toxic.
You might want to consider that babies are sometimes put into pure 100%
oxygen enviroments.
Post by news13
Post by One Party System
But 4 decades of doctored data do?
The data has not been doctored.
The interpretation is what the argument is about.
In aus.survival, there is a like to the various sets of raw data for you
to analyse yourself.
Or look for articles about why the data is "interpreted" and the various
tests to show that recordsing data different ways gives different
readings.
Mann already admitted they "adjusted" the data to reach the conclusion they
wanted.

I am not going to aus.survival for a "like" to the data. I've already seen
plenty of it. It is inconclusive at best. Not sufficient to alter the
global economy.
--
There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don’t want the patient
to get well, because as long as the disease holds out they have not only an
easy means of making a living, but also an easy medium through which to
make themselves prominent before the public.

Booker T. Washington
Scout
2015-03-28 07:03:06 UTC
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Post by One Party System
Post by news13
Post by One Party System
So the fact that we could have been breathing the atmosphere 100 million
years ago or more has not meaning to you?
You might want to check that factoid. tgoo much oxygen might be toxic to
our bodies. There is still the issue of food.
Really? At what concentration of atmospheric oxygen does it become toxic.
You might want to consider that babies are sometimes put into pure 100%
oxygen enviroments.
http://www.uptodate.com/contents/oxygen-toxicity
One Party System
2015-03-28 13:06:35 UTC
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@dont-
Post by Scout
Post by One Party System
Post by news13
Post by One Party System
So the fact that we could have been breathing the atmosphere 100 million
years ago or more has not meaning to you?
You might want to check that factoid. tgoo much oxygen might be toxic to
our bodies. There is still the issue of food.
Really? At what concentration of atmospheric oxygen does it become toxic.
You might want to consider that babies are sometimes put into pure 100%
oxygen enviroments.
http://www.uptodate.com/contents/oxygen-toxicity
Not sure that answered my question. Current earth atmosphere is:

Nitrogen (78%) Oxygen (21%) Other gases (1%)

How high would the oxygen have to be to be bad for us?
--
There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don’t want the patient
to get well, because as long as the disease holds out they have not only an
easy means of making a living, but also an easy medium through which to
make themselves prominent before the public.

Booker T. Washington
Bunny Brunel
2015-03-28 13:46:08 UTC
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@dont-
Post by Scout
Post by One Party System
Post by news13
Post by One Party System
So the fact that we could have been breathing the atmosphere 100 million
years ago or more has not meaning to you?
You might want to check that factoid. tgoo much oxygen might be toxic to
our bodies. There is still the issue of food.
Really? At what concentration of atmospheric oxygen does it become toxic.
You might want to consider that babies are sometimes put into pure 100%
oxygen enviroments.
http://www.uptodate.com/contents/oxygen-toxicity
Not sure that answered my question. Current earth atmosphere is:

Nitrogen (78%) Oxygen (21%) Other gases (1%)

How high would the oxygen have to be to be bad for us?


######
Ask Michael Jackson, or the crew of Apollo 1.
One Party System
2015-03-28 13:48:06 UTC
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@dont-
Post by Scout
Post by One Party System
Post by news13
Post by One Party System
So the fact that we could have been breathing the atmosphere 100
million
Post by Scout
Post by One Party System
Post by news13
Post by One Party System
years ago or more has not meaning to you?
You might want to check that factoid. tgoo much oxygen might be toxic
to
Post by Scout
Post by One Party System
Post by news13
our bodies. There is still the issue of food.
Really? At what concentration of atmospheric oxygen does it become
toxic.
Post by Scout
Post by One Party System
You might want to consider that babies are sometimes put into pure 100%
oxygen enviroments.
http://www.uptodate.com/contents/oxygen-toxicity
Nitrogen (78%) Oxygen (21%) Other gases (1%)
How high would the oxygen have to be to be bad for us?
######
Ask Michael Jackson, or the crew of Apollo 1.
When the drugs wear off, do post again. Thanks.
--
There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don’t want the patient
to get well, because as long as the disease holds out they have not only an
easy means of making a living, but also an easy medium through which to
make themselves prominent before the public.

Booker T. Washington
Bunny Brunel
2015-03-28 14:15:58 UTC
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@dont-
Post by Scout
Post by One Party System
Post by news13
Post by One Party System
So the fact that we could have been breathing the atmosphere 100
million
Post by Scout
Post by One Party System
Post by news13
Post by One Party System
years ago or more has not meaning to you?
You might want to check that factoid. tgoo much oxygen might be toxic
to
Post by Scout
Post by One Party System
Post by news13
our bodies. There is still the issue of food.
Really? At what concentration of atmospheric oxygen does it become
toxic.
Post by Scout
Post by One Party System
You might want to consider that babies are sometimes put into pure 100%
oxygen enviroments.
http://www.uptodate.com/contents/oxygen-toxicity
Nitrogen (78%) Oxygen (21%) Other gases (1%)
How high would the oxygen have to be to be bad for us?
######
Ask Michael Jackson, or the crew of Apollo 1.
When the drugs wear off, do post again. Thanks.


#####
I'm not the one in a pure oxygen environment, you retard.
Or was Apollo and lil Miky before your time?
One Party System
2015-03-25 11:15:04 UTC
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Post by One Party System
Post by news13
Yep, the earth might be estimated to be about 4.5 billion years old,
but how long has it been habitable for humans? That is the question.
Nice dodge. But the answer would be 100s of millions of years. We could
have lived contemparaneously with dinosaurs back to the Jurrasic and
even earlier.
hahahahahaha.
Meds kicking in? Can you prove me wrong scientifically?
--
There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don’t want the patient
to get well, because as long as the disease holds out they have not only an
easy means of making a living, but also an easy medium through which to make
themselves prominent before the public.

Booker T. Washington
news13
2015-03-26 04:50:42 UTC
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Post by news13
Post by One Party System
Post by news13
Yep, the earth might be estimated to be about 4.5 billion years old,
but how long has it been habitable for humans? That is the question.
Nice dodge. But the answer would be 100s of millions of years. We
could have lived contemparaneously with dinosaurs back to the Jurrasic
and even earlier.
hahahahahaha.
Meds kicking in? Can you prove me wrong scientifically?
Your claim, you prove it.
You would not have survived because physically you're no match for many
dinosaurs and there was SFA else for homo sapiens to eat.
One Party System
2015-03-26 23:48:25 UTC
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Post by One Party System
Post by news13
Post by One Party System
Post by news13
Yep, the earth might be estimated to be about 4.5 billion years old,
but how long has it been habitable for humans? That is the question.
Nice dodge. But the answer would be 100s of millions of years. We
could have lived contemparaneously with dinosaurs back to the Jurrasic
and even earlier.
hahahahahaha.
Meds kicking in? Can you prove me wrong scientifically?
Your claim, you prove it.
You would not have survived because physically you're no match for many
dinosaurs and there was SFA else for homo sapiens to eat.
What the fuck are you babbling about?

I am challenging your claim that

1) the earth is getting warmer
2) that man is responsible

And you have not provided an iota of evidence to support your claims. You are
giving me belief and faith and insults, but are markedly bereft of scientific
proof.
--
There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don’t want the patient
to get well, because as long as the disease holds out they have not only an
easy means of making a living, but also an easy medium through which to make
themselves prominent before the public.

Booker T. Washington
benj
2015-03-27 03:06:48 UTC
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Yep, the earth might be estimated to be about 4.5 billion years old,
but how long has it been habitable for humans? That is the question.
Nice dodge. But the answer would be 100s of millions of years. We
could have lived contemparaneously with dinosaurs back to the Jurrasic
and even earlier.
hahahahahaha.
Meds kicking in? Can you prove me wrong scientifically?
Your claim, you prove it.
You would not have survived because physically you're no match for many
dinosaurs and there was SFA else for homo sapiens to eat.
What the fuck are you babbling about?
I am challenging your claim that
1) the earth is getting warmer
2) that man is responsible
And you have not provided an iota of evidence to support your claims. You are
giving me belief and faith and insults, but are markedly bereft of scientific
proof.
Um that would be because by their own climate revisionist tainted data
there has been no warming for 17 years. Pretty much the hockey stick is
now dead. Even Algore tells his people not to mention it. No problem. Is
today's weather different than yesterday's? It is. Well now we call it
climate change! So if anything is changing that means we need that tax!
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news13
2015-03-27 05:24:08 UTC
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Um that would be because by their own climate revisionist tainted data
there has been no warming for 17 years. Pretty much the hockey stick is
now dead. Even Algore tells his people not to mention it. No problem. Is
today's weather different than yesterday's? It is. Well now we call it
climate change! So if anything is changing that means we need that tax!
A classic example of the denialist conflation of irrelevant events and
related activites., plus failurte to understand scientific terms, (bad
jargon though they may be).o
One Party System
2015-03-27 11:15:07 UTC
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Um that would be because by their own climate revisionist tainted data
there has been no warming for 17 years. Pretty much the hockey stick is
now dead. Even Algore tells his people not to mention it. No problem. Is
today's weather different than yesterday's? It is. Well now we call it
climate change! So if anything is changing that means we need that tax!
A classic example of the denialist conflation of irrelevant events and
related activites., plus failurte to understand scientific terms, (bad
jargon though they may be).o
What precisely are we denying? We don't want you lunatics damaging the
global economy and infringing on our liberty in the absence of any real
indication that it is necessary.

As far as failure to understand anything, I work in a very technical field.
Were I to forgo logic I would not be able to do my job, nor would I get
paid what I do. I have been interested in science since I was 6 so do not
apply your own intellectual failings to others.
--
There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don’t want the patient
to get well, because as long as the disease holds out they have not only an
easy means of making a living, but also an easy medium through which to
make themselves prominent before the public.

Booker T. Washington
news13
2015-03-27 05:21:41 UTC
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You would not have survived because physically you're no match for many
dinosaurs and there was SFA else for homo sapiens to eat.
What the fuck are you babbling about?
Obviously you can not follow a threaD, OR DO YOU CONCEED THAT POINT.
Post by One Party System
I am challenging your claim that
1) the earth is getting warmer
Define "warmer"

2) that man is responsible

Weasel words and the extremist strawman. 7-8billion arseholes contribute.
Post by One Party System
And you have not provided an iota of evidence to support your claims.
Exactly, you haven't.
One Party System
2015-03-27 11:07:04 UTC
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You would not have survived because physically you're no match for many
dinosaurs and there was SFA else for homo sapiens to eat.
What the fuck are you babbling about?
Obviously you can not follow a threaD, OR DO YOU CONCEED THAT POINT.
I concede nothing to you, nutbag. I can follow a thread. We weren't talking
about coexisting with large irritable reptiles. I was simply refering to
the ability to BREATH successfully.
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I am challenging your claim that
1) the earth is getting warmer
Define "warmer"
It's your claim, stupid, how do you define it?
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2) that man is responsible
Weasel words and the extremist strawman. 7-8billion arseholes contribute.
Um, you want to wreck the global economy and limit the liberty of
individuals based on your lunatic claims. Yeah, I kinda want to see your
evidence. Your claim that 7-8 billion arseholes contribute seems, biased at
best.
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And you have not provided an iota of evidence to support your claims.
Exactly, you haven't.
It's not on me, cupcake. You keep making claims, but you never support
them. I am not in the habit of refuting non-facts.
--
There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don’t want the patient
to get well, because as long as the disease holds out they have not only an
easy means of making a living, but also an easy medium through which to
make themselves prominent before the public.

Booker T. Washington
Rudy Canoza
2015-03-26 06:37:46 UTC
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Yep, the earth might be estimated to be about 4.5 billion years old,
but how long has it been habitable for humans? That is the question.
Nice dodge. But the answer would be 100s of millions of years. We could
have lived contemparaneously [sic] with dinosaurs back to the Jurrasic [sic] and
even earlier.
hahahahahaha.
Meds kicking in? Can you prove me wrong scientifically?
Can you offer a shred of evidence that you might be right? Of course not.

No one has the burden to disprove you bullshit claim. You have the
burden to support it with facts and logic. Do it, or retract it.

The earliest accepted evidence for modern /homo sapiens sapiens/ dates
to about 200,000 years ago. The end of the Jurassic (not "Jurrasic")
era is some 145 million years ago. Even the earliest accepted
pre-hominids date back only 2.5 million years.

You are full of shit. There is no evidence we lived, or could have
lived, "contemparaneously [sic] with dinosaurs back to the Jurrasic
[sic] and even earlier". You don't have a fucking clue what you're
bullshitting about.
--
Your first duty is to th' country...is to th' flag, and then...and then
th' army,
and then to...and then to god. Flag, Army, God - F.A.G.

Mark Wieber
75th Rangers, 1971-1973
David J. Hughes
2015-03-26 15:52:39 UTC
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Yep, the earth might be estimated to be about 4.5 billion years old,
but how long has it been habitable for humans? That is the question.
Nice dodge. But the answer would be 100s of millions of years. We could
have lived contemparaneously [sic] with dinosaurs back to the Jurrasic [sic] and
even earlier.
hahahahahaha.
Meds kicking in? Can you prove me wrong scientifically?
Can you offer a shred of evidence that you might be right? Of course not.
No one has the burden to disprove you bullshit claim. You have the
burden to support it with facts and logic. Do it, or retract it.
The earliest accepted evidence for modern /homo sapiens sapiens/ dates
to about 200,000 years ago. The end of the Jurassic (not "Jurrasic")
era is some 145 million years ago. Even the earliest accepted
pre-hominids date back only 2.5 million years.
You are full of shit. There is no evidence we lived, or could have
lived, "contemparaneously [sic] with dinosaurs back to the Jurrasic
[sic] and even earlier". You don't have a fucking clue what you're
bullshitting about.
He did not not claim that man did live at the same time as the
dinosaurs. That was your interpretation of what he wrote.

The question he was responding to was "for how much of the history of
the Earth did conditions exist that were suitable to support human life?"

The most important factor would be having a high enough oxygen
concentration in the atmosphere to support human life, which would limit
it to the last 400 million years.

400 million years ago. Enough oxygen, free water, survivable
temperatures, low enough amounts of CO2, H2S, CH4, etc. to be breathable.
Little land life, so all food would have to come from the oceans, lakes
and rivers.

350 to 300 million years ago. More land life, arthropods and
amphibians, some of the land plants should have been edible by humans.

300 to 250 million years ago. Reptiles.

250 to 200 million years ago. Seed plants

200 to 150 million years ago. Conifers

150 to 50 million years ago. Mammals, flowering plants, many types of
dinosaurs, birds towards 50 million years ago.

One Million years ago. Hominids.
Rudy Canoza
2015-03-26 05:20:55 UTC
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Must have some effect? Well then, present your evidence. or just kill
yourself if you think man is the poroblem.
You mean the situation in NY is not a good enough example?
What situation in NY are you refering to? The corrupt IPCC?
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Post by One Party System
The earth is 4.5 billion years old. To extrapolate trends from a few
decades of questionable data is beyond unscientific, it is quite
preposterous. People whose lives have little meaning in search of meaning.
Is that why you mae your post.
Yep, the earth might be estimated to be about 4.5 billion years old, but
how long has it been habitable for humans? That is the question.
Nice dodge. But the answer would be 100s of millions of years. We could
have lived contemparaneously with dinosaurs back to the Jurrasic and
No evidence that we did, of course, and lots of evidence that we didn't.
--
Your first duty is to th' country...is to th' flag, and then...and then
th' army,
and then to...and then to god. Flag, Army, God - F.A.G.

Mark Wieber
75th Rangers, 1971-1973
Just Wondering
2015-03-26 08:08:55 UTC
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We could have lived contemparaneously with dinosaurs
back to the Jurrasic and
No evidence that we did, of course, and lots of evidence that we didn't.
Humans have always lived contemporaneously with dinosaurs. We have
lived with birds, and modern science says BIRDS ARE DINOSAURS.
http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/diapsids/avians.html
http://10000birds.com/are-birds-really-dinosaurs.htm
One Party System
2015-03-26 23:50:43 UTC
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We could have lived contemparaneously with dinosaurs
back to the Jurrasic and
No evidence that we did, of course, and lots of evidence that we didn't.
Humans have always lived contemporaneously with dinosaurs. We have
lived with birds, and modern science says BIRDS ARE DINOSAURS.
http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/diapsids/avians.html
http://10000birds.com/are-birds-really-dinosaurs.htm
Is Rudy really that stupid? I can't see his posts directly but what has
been quoted is absurd.

I di not claim we lived contemporaneously with dinosaurs.

But when someone has nothing to offer, making false claims about what
someone else said is all he has.
--
There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don’t want the patient
to get well, because as long as the disease holds out they have not only an
easy means of making a living, but also an easy medium through which to
make themselves prominent before the public.

Booker T. Washington
Rudy Canoza
2015-03-27 00:27:32 UTC
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We could have lived contemparaneously with dinosaurs
back to the Jurrasic and
No evidence that we did, of course, and lots of evidence that we didn't.
Humans have always lived contemporaneously with dinosaurs.
There were no humans in the "Jurrasic" [sic], of course.
--
Your first duty is to th' country...is to th' flag, and then...and then
th' army,
and then to...and then to god. Flag, Army, God - F.A.G.

Mark Wieber
75th Rangers, 1971-1973
Just Wondering
2015-03-27 02:01:37 UTC
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We could have lived contemparaneously with dinosaurs
back to the Jurrasic and
No evidence that we did, of course, and lots of evidence that we didn't.
Humans have always lived contemporaneously with dinosaurs.
There were no humans in the "Jurrasic" [sic], of course.
I didn't write that dinosaurs always lived contemporaneously with
dinosaurs. It's logically similar to say that a child has always lived
with her parents. That statement can be true even though it is also
true that the parents have NOT always lived with their child.
Rudy Canoza
2015-03-27 02:57:29 UTC
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We could have lived contemparaneously with dinosaurs
back to the Jurrasic and
No evidence that we did, of course, and lots of evidence that we didn't.
Humans have always lived contemporaneously with dinosaurs.
There were no humans in the "Jurrasic" [sic], of course.
I didn't write that dinosaurs always lived contemporaneously with
dinosaurs.
I think you mean that you didn't write that dinosaurs and /humans/ lived
contemporaneously, not dinosaurs and dinosaurs. Tautologically,
dinosaurs obviously lived contemporaneously with dinosaurs. In any
case, it was the other goof who suggested humans lived contemporaneously
with dinosaurs, all the way back to the "Jurrasic" [sic] period. Quite
obviously they did not.
Post by Just Wondering
It's logically similar to say that a child has always lived
with her parents. That statement can be true even though it is also
true that the parents have NOT always lived with their child.
--
Your first duty is to th' country...is to th' flag, and then...and then
th' army,
and then to...and then to god. Flag, Army, God - F.A.G.

Mark Wieber
75th Rangers, 1971-1973
Just Wondering
2015-03-27 07:02:11 UTC
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We could have lived contemparaneously with dinosaurs
back to the Jurrasic and
No evidence that we did, of course, and lots of evidence that we didn't.
Humans have always lived contemporaneously with dinosaurs.
There were no humans in the "Jurrasic" [sic], of course.
I didn't write that dinosaurs always lived contemporaneously with
dinosaurs.
I think you mean that you didn't write that dinosaurs and /humans/ lived
contemporaneously, not dinosaurs and dinosaurs.
You are correct. I apologize for the error and thank you for catching it.
Post by Rudy Canoza
Tautologically,
dinosaurs obviously lived contemporaneously with dinosaurs. In any
case, it was the other goof who suggested humans lived contemporaneously
with dinosaurs, all the way back to the "Jurrasic" [sic] period. Quite
obviously they did not.
My point is that scientists having determined that birds are dinosaurs,
and birds having been around as long as humans, it follows that as long
as humans have been around, there have always been living dinosaurs
among them.
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Post by Just Wondering
It's logically similar to say that a child has always lived
with her parents. That statement can be true even though it is also
true that the parents have NOT always lived with their child.
Rudy Canoza
2015-03-27 16:43:47 UTC
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We could have lived contemparaneously with dinosaurs
back to the Jurrasic and
No evidence that we did, of course, and lots of evidence that we didn't.
Humans have always lived contemporaneously with dinosaurs.
There were no humans in the "Jurrasic" [sic], of course.
I didn't write that dinosaurs always lived contemporaneously with
dinosaurs.
I think you mean that you didn't write that dinosaurs and /humans/ lived
contemporaneously, not dinosaurs and dinosaurs.
You are correct. I apologize for the error and thank you for catching it.
Post by Rudy Canoza
Tautologically,
dinosaurs obviously lived contemporaneously with dinosaurs. In any
case, it was the other goof who suggested humans lived contemporaneously
with dinosaurs, all the way back to the "Jurrasic" [sic] period. Quite
obviously they did not.
My point is that scientists having determined that birds are dinosaurs,
I saw something about that, and I don't think it is the <chortle>
"scientific consensus", yet, that birds are dinosaurs. Anyway, it's an
interesting idea.
--
Your first duty is to th' country...is to th' flag, and then...and then
th' army,
and then to...and then to god. Flag, Army, God - F.A.G.

Mark Wieber
75th Rangers, 1971-1973
David J. Hughes
2015-03-26 14:57:29 UTC
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Must have some effect? Well then, present your evidence. or just kill
yourself if you think man is the poroblem.
You mean the situation in NY is not a good enough example?
What situation in NY are you refering to? The corrupt IPCC?
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Post by One Party System
The earth is 4.5 billion years old. To extrapolate trends from a few
decades of questionable data is beyond unscientific, it is quite
preposterous. People whose lives have little meaning in search of meaning.
Is that why you mae your post.
Yep, the earth might be estimated to be about 4.5 billion years old, but
how long has it been habitable for humans? That is the question.
Nice dodge. But the answer would be 100s of millions of years. We could
have lived contemparaneously with dinosaurs back to the Jurrasic and
No evidence that we did, of course, and lots of evidence that we didn't.
Granted. But if by some bizarre twist of physics, a mid-western US town
was transported back 250 million years, the people would be able to
breath the air, drink the water, and find food to eat, all in a climate
that was tolerable.
Scout
2015-03-27 07:04:40 UTC
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Must have some effect? Well then, present your evidence. or just kill
yourself if you think man is the poroblem.
You mean the situation in NY is not a good enough example?
What situation in NY are you refering to? The corrupt IPCC?
Post by news13
Post by One Party System
The earth is 4.5 billion years old. To extrapolate trends from a few
decades of questionable data is beyond unscientific, it is quite
preposterous. People whose lives have little meaning in search of meaning.
Is that why you mae your post.
Yep, the earth might be estimated to be about 4.5 billion years old, but
how long has it been habitable for humans? That is the question.
Nice dodge. But the answer would be 100s of millions of years. We could
have lived contemparaneously with dinosaurs back to the Jurrasic and
No evidence that we did, of course, and lots of evidence that we didn't.
Granted. But if by some bizarre twist of physics, a mid-western US town
was transported back 250 million years, the people would be able to breath
the air, drink the water, and find food to eat, all in a climate that was
tolerable.
And probably shortly drop dead from disease....

We would have no immunities for what diseases there were millions of years
ago.
One Party System
2015-03-27 11:18:56 UTC
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Must have some effect? Well then, present your evidence. or just
kill yourself if you think man is the poroblem.
You mean the situation in NY is not a good enough example?
What situation in NY are you refering to? The corrupt IPCC?
Post by news13
Post by One Party System
The earth is 4.5 billion years old. To extrapolate trends from a
few decades of questionable data is beyond unscientific, it is
quite preposterous. People whose lives have little meaning in
search of meaning.
Is that why you mae your post.
Yep, the earth might be estimated to be about 4.5 billion years old, but
how long has it been habitable for humans? That is the question.
Nice dodge. But the answer would be 100s of millions of years. We
could have lived contemparaneously with dinosaurs back to the
Jurrasic and
No evidence that we did, of course, and lots of evidence that we didn't.
Granted. But if by some bizarre twist of physics, a mid-western US
town was transported back 250 million years, the people would be able
to breath the air, drink the water, and find food to eat, all in a
climate that was tolerable.
And probably shortly drop dead from disease....
We would have no immunities for what diseases there were millions of
years ago.
Again, not the point. The ability to breath the atmosphere and survive
ambient tempratures is the point.
--
There is a certain class of race-problem solvers who don’t want the patient
to get well, because as long as the disease holds out they have not only an
easy means of making a living, but also an easy medium through which to make
themselves prominent before the public.

Booker T. Washington
David J. Hughes
2015-03-27 14:55:40 UTC
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Must have some effect? Well then, present your evidence. or just kill
yourself if you think man is the poroblem.
You mean the situation in NY is not a good enough example?
What situation in NY are you refering to? The corrupt IPCC?
Post by news13
Post by One Party System
The earth is 4.5 billion years old. To extrapolate trends from a few
decades of questionable data is beyond unscientific, it is quite
preposterous. People whose lives have little meaning in search of meaning.
Is that why you mae your post.
Yep, the earth might be estimated to be about 4.5 billion years old, but
how long has it been habitable for humans? That is the question.
Nice dodge. But the answer would be 100s of millions of years. We could
have lived contemparaneously with dinosaurs back to the Jurrasic and
No evidence that we did, of course, and lots of evidence that we didn't.
Granted. But if by some bizarre twist of physics, a mid-western US
town was transported back 250 million years, the people would be able
to breath the air, drink the water, and find food to eat, all in a
climate that was tolerable.
And probably shortly drop dead from disease....
We would have no immunities for what diseases there were millions of
years ago.
Given the manner in which diseases, and resistance to diseases, evolve,
more likely the humans wold be fine, but there would be a mass
extinction event due to the humans introducing the common cold.
BeamMeUpScotty
2015-03-24 17:36:21 UTC
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Why I am a Climate Change Skeptic March 20, 2015 | Patrick Moore
Editorâ?Ts Note: Patrick Moore, Ph.D., has been a leader in international
Has been? He wasn't the guy who had a major dummy spit when people wanted
to do more than sit around a camp fire singing kumbyaa?
I am skeptical humans are the main cause of climate change
If he really wrote this then any implied reputation is totally
undeserved. Clearly an article to muddy the debate.
7+billion arseholes must have some effect.
Probably more correct to say 8 these days.
Keep rooting for a bigger shit pile.
Organic recycling is good for nature.

like billions of amebic animals eating the organic waste on the floor of
the forest. They don't become paralyzed with fear and want to eliminate
billions of amoeba to make the forest more balanced.

It's compost, and we all live on a giant ball of compost.
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