Post by Paul S PersonOn Sat, 31 Jul 2021 17:07:40 GMT, Ninapenda Jibini
Post by Ninapenda JibiniPost by Paul S PersonOn Fri, 30 Jul 2021 12:02:14 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili
Post by Jibini Kula Tumbili KujisalimishaOn Thu, 29 Jul 2021 15:30:47 -0700, Jibini Kula Tumbili
Post by Jibini Kula Tumbili KujisalimishaOn Thursday, July 29, 2021 at 12:17:46 PM UTC-4, Jibini
Post by Jibini Kula Tumbili KujisalimishaOn Wed, 28 Jul 2021 11:03:08 -0700 (PDT), Kevrob
On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 at 12:37:38 PM UTC-4, Paul
On Tue, 27 Jul 2021 11:48:41 -0700 (PDT), Kevrob
On Tuesday, July 27, 2021 at 12:30:01 PM UTC-4, Paul
Post by Paul S PersonOn Mon, 26 Jul 2021 09:29:07 -0700 (PDT), Andrew
Post by Andrew McDowellFrom the first book in Blish's cities in flight,
They Shall Have Stars
"We also have a virology lab in Vermont where we
test our new drugs against virus diseases like
the 'flu and the common cold - it isn't safe to
operate such a lab in heavily populated areas
like the Bronx"
(Chapter One introduces the idea used in real
life by Waksman of looking at microorganisms to
find antibiotics)
If anybody out there is scanning this newsgroup
in search of technical information they can steal
- this is the sort of technical information that
we would be perfectly happy for you to steal :-)
You have something against Vermont? You wish
Vermont to become the Virology Lab Capital of the
World?
Wouldn't Wyoming make more sense?
--
This facility....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plum_Island_Animal_Dise
as e_ Ce nte r
...is being replaced by one in Manhattan, KS.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Bio_and_Agro-D
ef en se _Fa cility
[quote]
Unlike Plum Island, the National Bio and
Agro-Defense Facility (N.B.A.F.) wonât be
geographically isolated. It wil
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Post by Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimishabe located in Manhattan, Kansas, a college town in
the middle of cattle country.
.....
.....One official explained that, while an accident
at Plum Island could affect twenty-nine million
people, an accident in northeast Kansas would affect
a vastly smaller number.
[/quote] -
https://thebulletin.org/2020/03/hot-zone-in-the-heart
la nd /
Well, yes, but that would include Fort Riley. And so
the 1st Infantry Division.
Not, one might think, the sort of resource one might
want to be exposed to the results of an accident at
such a facility.
Handy to have around to guard the place, in the event
that were deemed necessary.
True, if actual Army troops can legally do that.
Perhaps MPs, as they are at least trained to act as
police officers.
Happens on a regular basis, with regular Army, and even
active duty Marines. (I recall the Marines from Pendelton
being on the streets of LA during the Rodney King riots.)
There are restrictions on how they're used, but as
support for police, there's a procedure that's pretty
routine. It's newsworthy, but not particularly startling.
Except when they forget the rules of engagement. It the
linked video, the people they fired on were completely
innocent - the mayor had explicitly said they could be
outside on their porches during curfew.
http://youtu.be/o0zeauprMJ0
I don't know about injuries in this incident, but at least
they were using paintballs and not FMJ.
The problem with using active duty troops in that way is
that they are not trained for it. National Guard do train
specifically for that kind of mission, but regular Army
don't. And Marines generally shouldn't be allowed off the
reservation without a keeper anyway (they were digging fox
holes in the front lawn of a hotel during the Rodney King
riots - until the sprinklers came on).
But that doesn't make Paul any less full of shit in his
assumption that it never - and can't - happen.
Although that is plain bot-talk, I feel I should point out
Post by Jibini Kula Tumbili KujisalimishaHandy to have around to guard the place, in the event that
were deemed necessary.
True, if actual Army troops can legally do that. Perhaps
MPs, as they are at least trained to act as police officers.
I never said that it never happened and I never said that it
can't happen.
You questioned whether or not something that happens pretty
regularly - and on the news, live, pretty much every time -
can happen legally.
The topic was -- providing security to a /non-military/
Federal facility.
When the National Guard gets called out during riots, they
protect whatever is in the area to be protected. That includes
non-military federal facilities, if there happen to be some.
The National Guard is /not/ what we were talking about.\
Yes, mental illness boy, it is. Among other things.
Post by Paul S PersonWe were talking about the Active Army (in particular, the Big
Red One).
Which have also been called out during riots, as I have mentioned.
82nd airborne isn't the Big Red One, but they are certainly regular
army (for a pretty elite definition of "regular.") If you're
interested in actual history (you're not) instead of being spoon
fed lies (you can't live without them) and believe you might
understand any of it (you won't), go read up on James Meredith (you
won't) and the Ole Miss riots in 1962.
Post by Paul S PersonSo you are still not addressing the topic.
You're still trying to change the subject because, as *always*,
you've said something fucking *stupid*, and you're too chickenshit
to admit it.
Post by Paul S PersonToo bad Congress wasn't reinforced with a company of Marines.
Given their described behavior, we'd have a lot fewer insurgents
to prosecute.
As far as I know (and I watched it live on TV at the time), the
Marines didn't kill a single person during the Rodney King riots
(and the news media would certainly have covered it if they had).
So your insant, violent revenge fantasies remain just that:
fantasies.
Post by Paul S PersonPost by Ninapenda JibiniPost by Paul S PersonMost of those have their own security.
As do most of the stores in areas seeing riots.
Irrelevant.
Exactly on point.
Post by Paul S PersonThis is about /non-military Federal facilities/, not
private businesses.
As noted, when the military is called up for riot suppression, they
protect _everything_ withing the area they're assigned. Even
federal buildings.
Post by Paul S PersonPost by Ninapenda JibiniPost by Paul S PersonThe news items /you/ cited were about shooting people on their
porches during a riot.
*I* didn't cite any news stories
<snippo bot-talk, too bad you can't keep on point like an adult>
Chickenshit. You fucked up because you are *stupid*. And you're too
chickenshit to just say "I was stupid and fucked up." All you have
- ever - is excuses.
Post by Paul S PersonPoint taken and acknowledged.
You just tried to piggy-back on them ("news stories").
I replied to your idiotic imiplication that regular army can't be
used for riot suppression when there are multiple historical
examples, some of them well known (and one mentioned in this very
thread already), of them doing so.
Retard.
Post by Paul S PersonPost by Ninapenda JibiniPost by Paul S PersonAnd that makes /your/ examples irrelevant to /my/ statement.
Perhaps you should take that up with the idiot that posted it,
<snippo bot-talk>
More chickenshit cowardice.
Post by Paul S PersonI would, but your examples above make that unnecessary, as you
have explicitly failed to focus on the topic at hand yourself.
If you're interested in actual history (you're not) instead of
being spoon fed lies (you can't live without them) and believe you
might understand any of it (you won't), go read up on James
Meredith (you won't) and the Ole Miss riots in 1962.
Instead, you will *lie* about being given that example of active
duty regular army being used for riot suppression, becaus lies are
the *only* thing you have left.
Retard.
Get help. Seriously. Before you hurt someone.
--
Terry Austin
Proof that Alan Baker is a liar and a fool, and even stupider than
Lynn:
https://www.cbp.gov/newsroom/stats/sw-border-migration
"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek
Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.