Trump Alarms Lawmakers With Disparaging Words for Haiti and Africa ["shitholes"]

[David Elsan]

WASHINGTON — President Trump on Thursday balked at an immigration deal
that would include protections for people from Haiti and African
countries, demanding to know at a White House meeting why he should
accept immigrants from “shithole countries” rather than people from
places like Norway, according to people with direct knowledge of the
conversation.

Mr. Trump’s remarks left members of Congress attending the meeting in
the Cabinet Room alarmed and mystified. They were there discussing an
emerging bipartisan deal to give legal status to immigrants illegally
brought to the United States as children, the people said, speaking on
condition of anonymity without authorization to discuss the explosive
proceedings of the private meeting.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/11/us/politics/trump-shithole-countries.html


Trump complains about allowing immigrants from 'shithole' countries

As he rejected a bipartisan compromise to resolve the standoff over
so-called Dreamers, President Trump asked participants in an Oval Office
meeting Thursday why the United States should accept immigrants from
“shithole countries” in Africa, Central America and the Caribbean,
according to two people briefed on the meeting.

“What do we want Haitians here for?” the president asked, according to
the people briefed. “Why do we want all these people from Africa here?
Why do we want all these people from shithole countries?"

The president added: "We should have people from places like Norway."

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-congress-dreamers-20180111-story.html



Let's see how that shithead in a shithole Bit of Nothingness tries to
defend this one.

[Gunner Asch]

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 16:35:51 -0800, David Elsan

WASHINGTON — President Trump on Thursday balked at an immigration deal
that would include protections for people from Haiti and African
countries, demanding to know at a White House meeting why he should
accept immigrants from “shithole countries” rather than people from
places like Norway, according to people with direct knowledge of the
conversation.
Mr. Trump’s remarks left members of Congress attending the meeting in
the Cabinet Room alarmed and mystified. They were there discussing an
emerging bipartisan deal to give legal status to immigrants illegally
brought to the United States as children, the people said, speaking on
condition of anonymity without authorization to discuss the explosive
proceedings of the private meeting.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/11/us/politics/trump-shithole-countries.html
Trump complains about allowing immigrants from 'shithole' countries
As he rejected a bipartisan compromise to resolve the standoff over
so-called Dreamers, President Trump asked participants in an Oval Office
meeting Thursday why the United States should accept immigrants from
“shithole countries” in Africa, Central America and the Caribbean,
according to two people briefed on the meeting.
“What do we want Haitians here for?” the president asked, according to
the people briefed. “Why do we want all these people from Africa here?
Why do we want all these people from shithole countries?"
The president added: "We should have people from places like Norway."
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-congress-dreamers-20180111-story.html
Let's see how that shithead in a shithole Bit of Nothingness tries to
defend this one.

Trump indeed have some very good questions. Why SHOULD we deal with
immigrants from shithole countries like Africa and the Middle East?

Turd worlders come here for THEIR benifit...not for ours.


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Post by Gunner Asch
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 16:35:51 -0800, David Elsan

Post by David Elsan
WASHINGTON — President Trump on Thursday balked at an immigration deal
that would include protections for people from Haiti and African
countries, demanding to know at a White House meeting why he should
accept immigrants from “shithole countries” rather than people from
places like Norway, according to people with direct knowledge of the
conversation.
Mr. Trump’s remarks left members of Congress attending the meeting in
the Cabinet Room alarmed and mystified. They were there discussing an
emerging bipartisan deal to give legal status to immigrants illegally
brought to the United States as children, the people said, speaking on
condition of anonymity without authorization to discuss the explosive
proceedings of the private meeting.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/11/us/politics/trump-shithole-countries.html
Trump complains about allowing immigrants from 'shithole' countries
As he rejected a bipartisan compromise to resolve the standoff over
so-called Dreamers, President Trump asked participants in an Oval Office
meeting Thursday why the United States should accept immigrants from
“shithole countries” in Africa, Central America and the Caribbean,
according to two people briefed on the meeting.
“What do we want Haitians here for?” the president asked, according to
the people briefed. “Why do we want all these people from Africa here?
Why do we want all these people from shithole countries?"
The president added: "We should have people from places like Norway."
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-congress-dreamers-20180111-story.html
Let's see how that shithead in a shithole Bit of Nothingness tries to
defend this one.

Trump indeed have some very good questions.

No.

Post by Gunner Asch
Why SHOULD we deal with
immigrants from shithole countries like Africa and the Middle East?

You're as ignorant as the other fuckwit. Africa isn't a country, fucktard.

[Cloud Hobbit]

How many countries in Africa are not shitholes.

If I had any say in it I would certainly prefer people from countries where the persons coming here are likely to have a useful skill. We already get large numbers of unskilled labor from South of our border.

Who knows how many Canadian folks. If they can pronounce house and about and refrain from saying eh all the time they can go unnoticed.

I think he's thinking like a president and not like a business man. Business loves unskilled labor for jobs we don't want to do at the wages being offered.

We need to have a better system than we have.

We can't endlessly allow people from South of the border to swarm in without documentation. It's unfair to all the people who follow the rules and it's unfair to the taxpayers who wind up supporting many of them.
It's also unfair to the illegals who many times are victimized by people claiming to be able to get them green cards or who rent them apartments that are substandard.


We should use whatever influence we have with Mexico to get them to reform their economic system so that people don't want to leave.

[Dreamer In Colore]

On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 20:51:11 -0800 (PST), Cloud Hobbit

Post by Cloud Hobbit
How many countries in Africa are not shitholes.
If I had any say in it I would certainly prefer people from countries where the persons coming here are likely to have a useful skill. We already get large numbers of unskilled labor from South of our border.
Who knows how many Canadian folks. If they can pronounce house and about and refrain from saying eh all the time they can go unnoticed.
I think he's thinking like a president and not like a business man. Business loves unskilled labor for jobs we don't want to do at the wages being offered.
We need to have a better system than we have.
We can't endlessly allow people from South of the border to swarm in without documentation. It's unfair to all the people who follow the rules and it's unfair to the taxpayers who wind up supporting many of them.
It's also unfair to the illegals who many times are victimized by people claiming to be able to get them green cards or who rent them apartments that are substandard.
We should use whatever influence we have with Mexico to get them to reform their economic system so that people don't want to leave.

You know, up until today, I had respect for you.

But it turns out that you're a garden-variety racist asshole.

What the hell is wrong with you? Your first instinct is to advocate
change in other countries, when it's clear to anyone with an iota of
sense that your country would do better to emulate things that work
well elsewhere.

You actually think Trump thinks before he speaks? He's a two year old
entitled brat with an abysmal track record, and you think this is
something admirable?

[Don Kresch]

On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 16:19:28 -0500, Dreamer In Colore

Post by Dreamer In Colore
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 20:51:11 -0800 (PST), Cloud Hobbit

Post by Cloud Hobbit
How many countries in Africa are not shitholes.
If I had any say in it I would certainly prefer people from countries where the persons coming here are likely to have a useful skill. We already get large numbers of unskilled labor from South of our border.
Who knows how many Canadian folks. If they can pronounce house and about and refrain from saying eh all the time they can go unnoticed.
I think he's thinking like a president and not like a business man. Business loves unskilled labor for jobs we don't want to do at the wages being offered.
We need to have a better system than we have.
We can't endlessly allow people from South of the border to swarm in without documentation. It's unfair to all the people who follow the rules and it's unfair to the taxpayers who wind up supporting many of them.
It's also unfair to the illegals who many times are victimized by people claiming to be able to get them green cards or who rent them apartments that are substandard.
We should use whatever influence we have with Mexico to get them to reform their economic system so that people don't want to leave.

You know, up until today, I had respect for you.
But it turns out that you're a garden-variety racist asshole.

You have no idea what racism is.

Post by Dreamer In Colore
What the hell is wrong with you? Your first instinct is to advocate
change in other countries, when it's clear to anyone with an iota of
sense that your country would do better to emulate things that work
well elsewhere.

Like Venzuela?

Post by Dreamer In Colore
You actually think Trump thinks before he speaks? He's a two year old
entitled brat with an abysmal track record, and you think this is
something admirable?

Speaking the truth in this instance? Yes, it is.

Don
aa#51, Knight of BAAWA, Jedi Slackmaster
Praise "Bob" or burn in Slacklessness trying not to.

[Dreamer In Colore]

Post by Don Kresch
On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 16:19:28 -0500, Dreamer In Colore

Post by Dreamer In Colore
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 20:51:11 -0800 (PST), Cloud Hobbit

Post by Cloud Hobbit
How many countries in Africa are not shitholes.
If I had any say in it I would certainly prefer people from countries where the persons coming here are likely to have a useful skill. We already get large numbers of unskilled labor from South of our border.
Who knows how many Canadian folks. If they can pronounce house and about and refrain from saying eh all the time they can go unnoticed.
I think he's thinking like a president and not like a business man. Business loves unskilled labor for jobs we don't want to do at the wages being offered.
We need to have a better system than we have.
We can't endlessly allow people from South of the border to swarm in without documentation. It's unfair to all the people who follow the rules and it's unfair to the taxpayers who wind up supporting many of them.
It's also unfair to the illegals who many times are victimized by people claiming to be able to get them green cards or who rent them apartments that are substandard.
We should use whatever influence we have with Mexico to get them to reform their economic system so that people don't want to leave.

You know, up until today, I had respect for you.
But it turns out that you're a garden-variety racist asshole.

You have no idea what racism is.

I've experienced it first-hand. How about you?

"If they can pronounce house and about and refrain from saying eh all
the time" is clearly racist, as is "How many countries in Africa are
not shitholes".

Did they not teach you to read for comprehension?

Post by Don Kresch

Post by Dreamer In Colore
What the hell is wrong with you? Your first instinct is to advocate
change in other countries, when it's clear to anyone with an iota of
sense that your country would do better to emulate things that work
well elsewhere.

Like Venzuela?

How about Scandinavian countries? Canada? Germany?

Honestly, think more before you respond. I did say "work well"; on
what planet do you think Venezuela works well?

Post by Don Kresch

Post by Dreamer In Colore
You actually think Trump thinks before he speaks? He's a two year old
entitled brat with an abysmal track record, and you think this is
something admirable?

Speaking the truth in this instance? Yes, it is.

Perhaps you don't care that your president looks like a buffoon on the
world stage, or that there's a 46 billion dollar balance of trade
going on with the "shithole countries". But you should... and the fact
that you don't, speaks volumes for your level of critical thinking.

[Don Kresch]

On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 18:11:46 -0500, Dreamer In Colore

Post by Dreamer In Colore

Post by Don Kresch
On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 16:19:28 -0500, Dreamer In Colore

Post by Dreamer In Colore
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 20:51:11 -0800 (PST), Cloud Hobbit

Post by Cloud Hobbit
How many countries in Africa are not shitholes.
If I had any say in it I would certainly prefer people from countries where the persons coming here are likely to have a useful skill. We already get large numbers of unskilled labor from South of our border.
Who knows how many Canadian folks. If they can pronounce house and about and refrain from saying eh all the time they can go unnoticed.
I think he's thinking like a president and not like a business man. Business loves unskilled labor for jobs we don't want to do at the wages being offered.
We need to have a better system than we have.
We can't endlessly allow people from South of the border to swarm in without documentation. It's unfair to all the people who follow the rules and it's unfair to the taxpayers who wind up supporting many of them.
It's also unfair to the illegals who many times are victimized by people claiming to be able to get them green cards or who rent them apartments that are substandard.
We should use whatever influence we have with Mexico to get them to reform their economic system so that people don't want to leave.

You know, up until today, I had respect for you.
But it turns out that you're a garden-variety racist asshole.

You have no idea what racism is.

I've experienced it first-hand.

Mmhmmm. And everyone online is a doctor.

Post by Dreamer In Colore
"If they can pronounce house and about and refrain from saying eh all
the time" is clearly racist,

I wasn't aware that Canadian was a race. Because, in point of
fact: it's not. Don't confuse nationality with race. Dumbshit.

Post by Dreamer In Colore
as is "How many countries in Africa are
not shitholes".

That's not racist, either. Describing the situation of a
country is not, in point of fact, racist. If I call North Korea a
shithole, that's got nothing to do with race and everything to do with
the fact that it is a shithole! Same thing, you hypersensitive fucking
SJW.

Post by Dreamer In Colore

Post by Don Kresch

Post by Dreamer In Colore
What the hell is wrong with you? Your first instinct is to advocate
change in other countries, when it's clear to anyone with an iota of
sense that your country would do better to emulate things that work
well elsewhere.

Like Venzuela?

How about Scandinavian countries? Canada? Germany?

You mean countries which are going bankrupt because of their
welfare-state socialist crap?

Post by Dreamer In Colore
Honestly, think more before you respond. I did say "work well"; on
what planet do you think Venezuela works well?

Socialism works well according to people like you. Of course,
it doesn't work well at all. And can't, as Mises showed.

Post by Dreamer In Colore

Post by Don Kresch

Post by Dreamer In Colore
You actually think Trump thinks before he speaks? He's a two year old
entitled brat with an abysmal track record, and you think this is
something admirable?

Speaking the truth in this instance? Yes, it is.

Perhaps you don't care that your president looks like a buffoon on the
world stage, or that there's a 46 billion dollar balance of trade
going on with the "shithole countries".

1. I'm an anarchist; I have no president.
2. Balance of trade is meaningless protectionist garbage.


Don
aa#51, Knight of BAAWA, Jedi Slackmaster
Praise "Bob" or burn in Slacklessness trying not to.

[Teresita]

Post by Don Kresch
2. Balance of trade is meaningless protectionist garbage.

Balance of trade, the difference in value between a country's imports
and exports, is a politically neutral piece of data. It's only the
Marxist-Leninist workers paradises who claimed facts about the world
were imperialist propaganda. My how the Randroids have fallen.

[Don Kresch]

Post by Teresita

Post by Don Kresch
2. Balance of trade is meaningless protectionist garbage.

Balance of trade, the difference in value between a country's imports
and exports, is a politically neutral piece of data. It's only the
Marxist-Leninist workers paradises who claimed facts about the world
were imperialist propaganda. My how the Randroids have fallen.

What the fuck are you talking about?

Don
aa#51, Knight of BAAWA, Jedi Slackmaster
Praise "Bob" or burn in Slacklessness trying not to.

[!! Atheist ------------------------------]

Post by Don Kresch
Socialism works well according to people like you. Of course,
it doesn't work well at all. And can't, as Mises showed.

It works well, but it's not perfect, in the U.S. We have tons of good
socialist laws (to keep greedy anything-goes Capitalists under
control, cheating workers out of pay, selling snake oil as cancer cure).
Like minimum wage, workers comp insurance, 40 hour work week,
child labor laws, erc etc tons of good socialist laws.

We've had those good socialist laws for a long time so why do you
say they won't work?

[Alex W.]

Post by Cloud Hobbit
How many countries in Africa are not shitholes.
If I had any say in it I would certainly prefer people from countries
where the persons coming here are likely to have a useful skill. We
already get large numbers of unskilled labor from South of our
border.

And that is one big reason WHY those countries are shitholes. The local
governments train up doctors and nurses and engineers at a very
significant expense to them, and then they get lured to the US with
offers of big paychecks.

Post by Cloud Hobbit
Who knows how many Canadian folks. If they can pronounce house and
about and refrain from saying eh all the time they can go unnoticed.
I think he's thinking like a president and not like a business man.
Business loves unskilled labor for jobs we don't want to do at the
wages being offered.
We need to have a better system than we have.
We can't endlessly allow people from South of the border to swarm in
without documentation. It's unfair to all the people who follow the
rules and it's unfair to the taxpayers who wind up supporting many of
them. It's also unfair to the illegals who many times are victimized
by people claiming to be able to get them green cards or who rent
them apartments that are substandard.
We should use whatever influence we have with Mexico to get them to
reform their economic system so that people don't want to leave.

You argue like a New York junkie blaming the Colombians for producing
the supply he needs and craves.

Mexicans do come across the border to work.
They come because there IS work, because Americans WANT cheap cleaners
and gardeners and meatpackers and construction workers.

If you do not want undocumented Mexicans in the US, try not hiring them.

[Wile E. Coyote]

Post by Wayne Autrey

Post by Gunner Asch
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 16:35:51 -0800, David Elsan

WASHINGTON — President Trump on Thursday balked at an immigration
deal that would include protections for people from Haiti and African
countries, demanding to know at a White House meeting why he should
accept immigrants from “shithole countries” rather than people
from places like Norway, according to people with direct knowledge of
the conversation.
Mr. Trump’s remarks left members of Congress attending the meeting
in the Cabinet Room alarmed and mystified. They were there discussing
an emerging bipartisan deal to give legal status to immigrants
illegally brought to the United States as children, the people said,
speaking on condition of anonymity without authorization to discuss
the explosive proceedings of the private meeting.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/11/us/politics/trump-shithole-countries
.html
Trump complains about allowing immigrants from 'shithole' countries
As he rejected a bipartisan compromise to resolve the standoff over
so-called Dreamers, President Trump asked participants in an Oval
Office meeting Thursday why the United States should accept immigrants
from “shithole countries” in Africa, Central America and the
Caribbean, according to two people briefed on the meeting.
“What do we want Haitians here for?” the president asked,
according to the people briefed. “Why do we want all these people
from Africa here? Why do we want all these people from shithole
countries?"
The president added: "We should have people from places like Norway."
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-congress-dreamers-20180
111-story.html
Let's see how that shithead in a shithole Bit of Nothingness tries to
defend this one.

Trump indeed have some very good questions.

No.

Post by Gunner Asch
Why SHOULD we deal with
immigrants from shithole countries like Africa and the Middle East?

You're as ignorant as the other fuckwit. Africa isn't a country, fucktard.

Shithole countries in Africa and the Middle East.

[Olrik]

Post by Gunner Asch
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 16:35:51 -0800, David Elsan

Post by David Elsan
WASHINGTON — President Trump on Thursday balked at an immigration deal
that would include protections for people from Haiti and African
countries, demanding to know at a White House meeting why he should
accept immigrants from “shithole countries” rather than people from
places like Norway, according to people with direct knowledge of the
conversation.
Mr. Trump’s remarks left members of Congress attending the meeting in
the Cabinet Room alarmed and mystified. They were there discussing an
emerging bipartisan deal to give legal status to immigrants illegally
brought to the United States as children, the people said, speaking on
condition of anonymity without authorization to discuss the explosive
proceedings of the private meeting.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/11/us/politics/trump-shithole-countries.html
Trump complains about allowing immigrants from 'shithole' countries
As he rejected a bipartisan compromise to resolve the standoff over
so-called Dreamers, President Trump asked participants in an Oval Office
meeting Thursday why the United States should accept immigrants from
“shithole countries” in Africa, Central America and the Caribbean,
according to two people briefed on the meeting.
“What do we want Haitians here for?” the president asked, according to
the people briefed. “Why do we want all these people from Africa here?
Why do we want all these people from shithole countries?"
The president added: "We should have people from places like Norway."
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-congress-dreamers-20180111-story.html
Let's see how that shithead in a shithole Bit of Nothingness tries to
defend this one.

Trump indeed have some very good questions. Why SHOULD we deal with
immigrants from shithole countries like Africa and the Middle East?
Turd worlders come here for THEIR benifit...not for ours.

Your kind do not say that when Africans were used as slaves, you little
defective racist.

[Robert Söllinger]

No. He *wrote*, you fucking pretentious native English speaking cunt.

[Robert Söllinger]

Post by Robert Söllinger
No. He *wrote*, you fucking pretentious native English speaking cunt.

Nous ne rions pas avec toi.
Nous rions a toi.

Le deuxième gribouillis n'est pas français.

[Flake Snow]

Post by Gunner Asch
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 16:35:51 -0800, David Elsan

Post by David Elsan
WASHINGTON — President Trump on Thursday balked at an immigration deal
that would include protections for people from Haiti and African
countries, demanding to know at a White House meeting why he should
accept immigrants from “shithole countries” rather than people from
places like Norway, according to people with direct knowledge of the
conversation.
Mr. Trump’s remarks left members of Congress attending the meeting in
the Cabinet Room alarmed and mystified. They were there discussing an
emerging bipartisan deal to give legal status to immigrants illegally
brought to the United States as children, the people said, speaking on
condition of anonymity without authorization to discuss the explosive
proceedings of the private meeting.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/11/us/politics/trump-shithole-countries.html
Trump complains about allowing immigrants from 'shithole' countries
As he rejected a bipartisan compromise to resolve the standoff over
so-called Dreamers, President Trump asked participants in an Oval Office
meeting Thursday why the United States should accept immigrants from
“shithole countries” in Africa, Central America and the Caribbean,
according to two people briefed on the meeting.
“What do we want Haitians here for?” the president asked, according to
the people briefed. “Why do we want all these people from Africa here?
Why do we want all these people from shithole countries?"
The president added: "We should have people from places like Norway."
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-congress-dreamers-20180111-story.html
Let's see how that shithead in a shithole Bit of Nothingness tries to
defend this one.

Trump indeed have some very good questions. Why SHOULD we deal with
immigrants from shithole countries like Africa and the Middle East?
Turd worlders come here for THEIR benifit...not for ours.

Liberals ignore the point that Trump makes and attack the way he made
the point.

And you are correct, Like JFK said "it's NOT what your country can do
for you, it's what you can do for your country". And a Syrian or
Haitian that has little to offer this country is NOT a priority when it
comes to immigration. The Nation isn't based on feelings and won't
survive based on them, we are based on a constitution and laws.

[Just Wondering]

Post by Flake Snow

Post by Gunner Asch
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 16:35:51 -0800, David Elsan

Post by David Elsan
WASHINGTON — President Trump on Thursday balked at an immigration deal
that would include protections for people from Haiti and African
countries, demanding to know at a White House meeting why he should
accept immigrants from “shithole countries” rather than people from
places like Norway, according to people with direct knowledge of the
conversation.
< clipped >
As he rejected a bipartisan compromise to resolve the standoff over
so-called Dreamers, President Trump asked participants in an Oval Office
meeting Thursday why the United States should accept immigrants from
“shithole countries” in Africa, Central America and the Caribbean,
according to two people briefed on the meeting.

Trump indeed have some very good questions. Why SHOULD we deal with
immigrants from shithole countries like Africa and the Middle East?

Liberals ignore the point that Trump makes and attack the way he made
the point.

Democrats: It's awful for Trump to call Central American countries
shitholes.
Also Democrats: We shouldn't send that illegal alien back to his
Central American country, because it's a shithole.

[Frank]

Post by Flake Snow

Post by Gunner Asch
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 16:35:51 -0800, David Elsan

Post by David Elsan
WASHINGTON — President Trump on Thursday balked at an immigration deal
that would include protections for people from Haiti and African
countries, demanding to know at a White House meeting why he should
accept immigrants from “shithole countries” rather than people from
places like Norway, according to people with direct knowledge of the
conversation.
          <  clipped   >
As he rejected a bipartisan compromise to resolve the standoff over
so-called Dreamers, President Trump asked participants in an Oval Office
meeting Thursday why the United States should accept immigrants from
“shithole countries” in Africa, Central America and the Caribbean,
according to two people briefed on the meeting.

Trump indeed have some very good questions.  Why SHOULD we deal with
immigrants from shithole countries like Africa and the Middle East?

Liberals ignore the point that Trump makes and attack the way he made
the point.

Democrats:  It's awful for Trump to call Central American countries
shitholes.
Also Democrats:  We shouldn't send that illegal alien back to his
Central American country, because it's a shithole.

When are most Democrats going to recognize that their party leaders are
putting the welfare of non-citizens above US citizens just to get
voters? The party is dying and the Democratic leader ship is hastening
it's demise.

[Wile E. Coyote]

Post by Frank

Post by Flake Snow

Post by Gunner Asch
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 16:35:51 -0800, David Elsan

WASHINGTON — President Trump on Thursday balked at an immigration
deal that would include protections for people from Haiti and
African countries, demanding to know at a White House meeting why he
should accept immigrants from “shithole countries” rather than
people from places like Norway, according to people with direct
knowledge of the conversation.
          <  clipped   >
As he rejected a bipartisan compromise to resolve the standoff over
so-called Dreamers, President Trump asked participants in an Oval Office
meeting Thursday why the United States should accept immigrants from
“shithole countries” in Africa, Central America and the
Caribbean, according to two people briefed on the meeting.

Trump indeed have some very good questions.  Why SHOULD we deal with
immigrants from shithole countries like Africa and the Middle East?

Liberals ignore the point that Trump makes and attack the way he made
the point.

Democrats:  It's awful for Trump to call Central American countries
shitholes.
Also Democrats:  We shouldn't send that illegal alien back to his
Central American country, because it's a shithole.

When are most Democrats going to recognize that their party leaders are
putting the welfare of non-citizens above US citizens just to get
voters? The party is dying and the Democratic leader ship is hastening
it's demise.

Thier deaths should be accelerated.

[Siri Cruise]

Post by Just Wondering
Also Democrats: We shouldn't send that illegal alien back to his
Central American country, because it's a shithole.

I don't see a lot of refugees from Costa Rica. Wasn't Costa Rica the one that
declined Reagan's invitation to genocide and terrorism?

[lythe lynx]

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Just Wondering
Also Democrats: We shouldn't send that illegal alien back to his
Central American country, because it's a shithole.

I don't see a lot of refugees from Costa Rica.

So fucking what.

https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/central-american-immigrants-united-states-0/

The United States is home to about 2.9 million immigrants from the
Central American countries of Belize, Costa Rica, El Salvador,
Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua, and Panama. Immigration from Central
America has grown rapidly in recent decades, but more than two of every
five Central American immigrants lack legal immigration status while
about one in ten resides in the United States under temporary
humanitarian protection.

Overall, the Central American immigrant population faces substantial
challenges in the United States including generally low levels of
education, limited English proficiency, and an overall concentration in
jobs that have experienced substantial employment losses during the
economic crisis of the past three years.

Central American immigrants are heavily concentrated in California,
Texas, and Florida but also account for a large share of the
foreign-born population in places like the New Orleans and Washington,
DC metropolitan areas.

https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/central-american-immigrants-united-states/

Table 1. Distribution of Central American Immigrants in the United
States by Country of Origin, 2015

Costa Rica: 90,000

Post by Siri Cruise
Wasn't Costa Rica the one that
declined Reagan's

Fuck off and die you old meth whore.

[Wile E. Coyote]

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Just Wondering
Also Democrats: We shouldn't send that illegal alien back to his
Central American country, because it's a shithole.

I don't see a lot of refugees from Costa Rica. Wasn't Costa Rica the one
that declined Reagan's invitation to genocide and terrorism?

Waht the fuck are you raving about now? Reagan and Costa Rica?

[#BeamMeUpScotty]

Post by Flake Snow

Post by Gunner Asch
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 16:35:51 -0800, David Elsan

Post by David Elsan
WASHINGTON — President Trump on Thursday balked at an immigration deal
that would include protections for people from Haiti and African
countries, demanding to know at a White House meeting why he should
accept immigrants from “shithole countries” rather than people from
places like Norway, according to people with direct knowledge of the
conversation.
          <  clipped   >
As he rejected a bipartisan compromise to resolve the standoff over
so-called Dreamers, President Trump asked participants in an Oval Office
meeting Thursday why the United States should accept immigrants from
“shithole countries” in Africa, Central America and the Caribbean,
according to two people briefed on the meeting.

Trump indeed have some very good questions.  Why SHOULD we deal with
immigrants from shithole countries like Africa and the Middle East?

Liberals ignore the point that Trump makes and attack the way he made
the point.

Democrats:  It's awful for Trump to call Central American countries
shitholes.
Also Democrats:  We shouldn't send that illegal alien back to his
Central American country, because it's a shithole.

We aren't obliged to keep anyone illegally entering out country...

And Venezuela was told by me and *many many others* that they would end
up a shithole if they stayed on the Socialist trail. They did and they
are now officially a shithole, one where even they don't want to be.
That sort of defines shithole doesn't it, a place where the residents
flee from?

Sadly they were the ones that elected the Socialists and they are the
ones that have to fix it so we don't need to take them as they flee what
they "chose" to be.

f they were over run by communist troops and had no guns, again it's
their own fault. They should amendment their constitution to allow them
to KEEP and BEAR arms.

The thing that shitholes have in common is NOT race... but that guns are
banned.

[Kit]

Post by #BeamMeUpScotty

Post by Flake Snow

Post by Gunner Asch
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 16:35:51 -0800, David Elsan

Post by David Elsan
WASHINGTON — President Trump on Thursday balked at an immigration deal
that would include protections for people from Haiti and African
countries, demanding to know at a White House meeting why he should
accept immigrants from “shithole countries” rather than people from
places like Norway, according to people with direct knowledge of the
conversation.
          <  clipped   >
As he rejected a bipartisan compromise to resolve the standoff over
so-called Dreamers, President Trump asked participants in an Oval Office
meeting Thursday why the United States should accept immigrants from
“shithole countries” in Africa, Central America and the Caribbean,
according to two people briefed on the meeting.

Trump indeed have some very good questions.  Why SHOULD we deal with
immigrants from shithole countries like Africa and the Middle East?

Liberals ignore the point that Trump makes and attack the way he made
the point.

Democrats:  It's awful for Trump to call Central American countries
shitholes.
Also Democrats:  We shouldn't send that illegal alien back to his
Central American country, because it's a shithole.

We aren't obliged to keep anyone illegally entering out country...

The Native Americans weren't obliged to allow he Pilgrims and others to enter this continent.

-- Kit

Post by #BeamMeUpScotty
And Venezuela was told by me and *many many others* that they would end
up a shithole if they stayed on the Socialist trail. They did and they
are now officially a shithole, one where even they don't want to be.
That sort of defines shithole doesn't it, a place where the residents
flee from?
Sadly they were the ones that elected the Socialists and they are the
ones that have to fix it so we don't need to take them as they flee what
they "chose" to be.
f they were over run by communist troops and had no guns, again it's
their own fault. They should amendment their constitution to allow them
to KEEP and BEAR arms.
The thing that shitholes have in common is NOT race... but that guns are
banned.
--
That's Karma
Liberalism's Cryptonite, is the truth.

[TT Liams]

Post by Kit

Post by #BeamMeUpScotty

Post by Flake Snow

Post by Gunner Asch
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 16:35:51 -0800, David Elsan

Post by David Elsan
WASHINGTON — President Trump on Thursday balked at an immigration deal
that would include protections for people from Haiti and African
countries, demanding to know at a White House meeting why he should
accept immigrants from “shithole countries” rather than people from
places like Norway, according to people with direct knowledge of the
conversation.
          <  clipped   >
As he rejected a bipartisan compromise to resolve the standoff over
so-called Dreamers, President Trump asked participants in an Oval Office
meeting Thursday why the United States should accept immigrants from
“shithole countries” in Africa, Central America and the Caribbean,
according to two people briefed on the meeting.

Trump indeed have some very good questions.  Why SHOULD we deal with
immigrants from shithole countries like Africa and the Middle East?

Liberals ignore the point that Trump makes and attack the way he made
the point.

Democrats:  It's awful for Trump to call Central American countries
shitholes.
Also Democrats:  We shouldn't send that illegal alien back to his
Central American country, because it's a shithole.

We aren't obliged to keep anyone illegally entering out country...

The Native Americans weren't obliged to allow he Pilgrims and others to enter this continent.

Pilgrims helped indians get food & have thanks's.

[Siri Cruise]

Post by Flake Snow

Post by Gunner Asch
Trump indeed have some very good questions. Why SHOULD we deal with
immigrants from shithole countries like Africa and the Middle East?
Turd worlders come here for THEIR benifit...not for ours.

Liberals ignore the point that Trump makes and attack the way he made
the point.

Why did we let the Drumpfs come here?

[lythe lynx]

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Flake Snow

Post by Gunner Asch
Trump indeed have some very good questions. Why SHOULD we deal with
immigrants from shithole countries like Africa and the Middle East?
Turd worlders come here for THEIR benifit...not for ours.

Liberals ignore the point that Trump makes and attack the way he made
the point.

Why did we let the Drumpfs come here?

Why are you such a leftarded traitor to America?

[Clave]

No one's ignoring anything.

Clam shit travels horizontally doesn't it Jim?

[Ted]

Post by Clave

No one's ignoring anything.

Clam shit travels horizontally doesn't it Jim?

You're a shitbag, Clave.

[Bud Frawley]

Post by Gunner Asch
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 16:35:51 -0800, David Elsan

Post by David Elsan
WASHINGTON — President Trump on Thursday balked at an immigration deal
that would include protections for people from Haiti and African
countries, demanding to know at a White House meeting why he should
accept immigrants from “shithole countries” rather than people from
places like Norway, according to people with direct knowledge of the
conversation.
Mr. Trump’s remarks left members of Congress attending the meeting in
the Cabinet Room alarmed and mystified. They were there discussing an
emerging bipartisan deal to give legal status to immigrants illegally
brought to the United States as children, the people said, speaking on
condition of anonymity without authorization to discuss the explosive
proceedings of the private meeting.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/11/us/politics/trump-shithole-countries.html
Trump complains about allowing immigrants from 'shithole' countries
As he rejected a bipartisan compromise to resolve the standoff over
so-called Dreamers, President Trump asked participants in an Oval Office
meeting Thursday why the United States should accept immigrants from
“shithole countries” in Africa, Central America and the Caribbean,
according to two people briefed on the meeting.
“What do we want Haitians here for?” the president asked, according to
the people briefed. “Why do we want all these people from Africa here?
Why do we want all these people from shithole countries?"
The president added: "We should have people from places like Norway."
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-congress-dreamers-20180111-story.html
Let's see how that shithead in a shithole Bit of Nothingness tries to
defend this one.

Trump indeed have some very good questions. Why SHOULD we deal with
immigrants from shithole countries like Africa and the Middle East?
Turd worlders come here for THEIR benifit...not for ours.

*Every* immigrant comes here for his own benefit and not for ours, you
fucktard. So what?

[#BeamMeUpScotty]

Post by Bud Frawley

Post by Gunner Asch
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 16:35:51 -0800, David Elsan

Post by David Elsan
WASHINGTON — President Trump on Thursday balked at an immigration deal
that would include protections for people from Haiti and African
countries, demanding to know at a White House meeting why he should
accept immigrants from “shithole countries” rather than people from
places like Norway, according to people with direct knowledge of the
conversation.
Mr. Trump’s remarks left members of Congress attending the meeting in
the Cabinet Room alarmed and mystified. They were there discussing an
emerging bipartisan deal to give legal status to immigrants illegally
brought to the United States as children, the people said, speaking on
condition of anonymity without authorization to discuss the explosive
proceedings of the private meeting.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/11/us/politics/trump-shithole-countries.html
Trump complains about allowing immigrants from 'shithole' countries
As he rejected a bipartisan compromise to resolve the standoff over
so-called Dreamers, President Trump asked participants in an Oval Office
meeting Thursday why the United States should accept immigrants from
“shithole countries” in Africa, Central America and the Caribbean,
according to two people briefed on the meeting.
“What do we want Haitians here for?” the president asked, according to
the people briefed. “Why do we want all these people from Africa here?
Why do we want all these people from shithole countries?"
The president added: "We should have people from places like Norway."
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-congress-dreamers-20180111-story.html
Let's see how that shithead in a shithole Bit of Nothingness tries to
defend this one.

Trump indeed have some very good questions.  Why SHOULD we deal with
immigrants from shithole countries like Africa and the Middle East?
Turd worlders come here for THEIR benifit...not for ours.

*Every* immigrant comes here for his own benefit and not for ours, you
fucktard.  So what?

Like the Clinton's went to Haiti? ;)

[Ted]

Post by Gunner Asch
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 16:35:51 -0800, David Elsan

Post by David Elsan

Post by David Elsan
WASHINGTON — President Trump on Thursday balked at an immigration deal

that would include protections for people from Haiti and African
countries, demanding to know at a White House meeting why he should
accept immigrants from “shithole countries” rather than people from
places like Norway, according to people with direct knowledge of the
conversation.
Mr. Trump’s remarks left members of Congress attending the meeting in
the Cabinet Room alarmed and mystified. They were there discussing an
emerging bipartisan deal to give legal status to immigrants illegally
brought to the United States as children, the people said, speaking on
condition of anonymity without authorization to discuss the explosive
proceedings of the private meeting.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/11/us/politics/trump-shithole-countries.html
Trump complains about allowing immigrants from 'shithole' countries
As he rejected a bipartisan compromise to resolve the standoff over
so-called Dreamers, President Trump asked participants in an Oval Office
meeting Thursday why the United States should accept immigrants from
“shithole countries” in Africa, Central America and the Caribbean,
according to two people briefed on the meeting.
“What do we want Haitians here for?” the president asked, according to
the people briefed. “Why do we want all these people from Africa here?
Why do we want all these people from shithole countries?"
The president added: "We should have people from places like Norway."
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-congress-dreamers-20180111-story.html
Let's see how that shithead in a shithole Bit of Nothingness tries to
defend this one.

Post by David Elsan
Trump indeed have some very good questions. Why SHOULD we deal with

immigrants from shithole countries like Africa and the Middle East?

Post by David Elsan
Turd worlders come here for THEIR benifit...not for ours.

*Every* immigrant comes here for his own benefit and not for ours, you fucktard. So what?

Exactly.

[#BeamMeUpScotty]

Post by Ted

Post by Gunner Asch
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 16:35:51 -0800, David Elsan

Post by David Elsan

Post by David Elsan
WASHINGTON — President Trump on Thursday balked at an immigration deal

that would include protections for people from Haiti and African
countries, demanding to know at a White House meeting why he should
accept immigrants from “shithole countries” rather than people from
places like Norway, according to people with direct knowledge of the
conversation.
Mr. Trump’s remarks left members of Congress attending the meeting in
the Cabinet Room alarmed and mystified. They were there discussing an
emerging bipartisan deal to give legal status to immigrants illegally
brought to the United States as children, the people said, speaking on
condition of anonymity without authorization to discuss the explosive
proceedings of the private meeting.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/11/us/politics/trump-shithole-countries.html
Trump complains about allowing immigrants from 'shithole' countries
As he rejected a bipartisan compromise to resolve the standoff over
so-called Dreamers, President Trump asked participants in an Oval Office
meeting Thursday why the United States should accept immigrants from
“shithole countries” in Africa, Central America and the Caribbean,
according to two people briefed on the meeting.
“What do we want Haitians here for?” the president asked, according to
the people briefed. “Why do we want all these people from Africa here?
Why do we want all these people from shithole countries?"
The president added: "We should have people from places like Norway."
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-congress-dreamers-20180111-story.html
Let's see how that shithead in a shithole Bit of Nothingness tries to
defend this one.

Post by David Elsan
Trump indeed have some very good questions. Why SHOULD we deal with

immigrants from shithole countries like Africa and the Middle East?

Post by David Elsan
Turd worlders come here for THEIR benifit...not for ours.

*Every* immigrant comes here for his own benefit and not for ours, you fucktard. So what?

Exactly.

That's why we need to control it.

[Ted]

Post by #BeamMeUpScotty

Post by Ted

Post by Bud Frawley

Post by Gunner Asch
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 16:35:51 -0800, David Elsan

Post by David Elsan

Post by David Elsan
WASHINGTON — President Trump on Thursday balked at an immigration deal

that would include protections for people from Haiti and African
countries, demanding to know at a White House meeting why he should
accept immigrants from “shithole countries” rather than people from
places like Norway, according to people with direct knowledge of the
conversation.
Mr. Trump’s remarks left members of Congress attending the meeting in
the Cabinet Room alarmed and mystified. They were there discussing an
emerging bipartisan deal to give legal status to immigrants illegally
brought to the United States as children, the people said, speaking on
condition of anonymity without authorization to discuss the explosive
proceedings of the private meeting.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/11/us/politics/trump-shithole-countries.html
Trump complains about allowing immigrants from 'shithole' countries
As he rejected a bipartisan compromise to resolve the standoff over
so-called Dreamers, President Trump asked participants in an Oval Office
meeting Thursday why the United States should accept immigrants from
“shithole countries” in Africa, Central America and the Caribbean,
according to two people briefed on the meeting.
“What do we want Haitians here for?” the president asked, according to
the people briefed. “Why do we want all these people from Africa here?
Why do we want all these people from shithole countries?"
The president added: "We should have people from places like Norway."
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-congress-dreamers-20180111-story.html
Let's see how that shithead in a shithole Bit of Nothingness tries to
defend this one.

Post by David Elsan
Trump indeed have some very good questions. Why SHOULD we deal with

immigrants from shithole countries like Africa and the Middle East?

Post by David Elsan
Turd worlders come here for THEIR benifit...not for ours.

*Every* immigrant comes here for his own benefit and not for ours, you
fucktard. So what?

Exactly.

That's why we need to control it.

The strings are pulled by folks much more powerful than us. I just go with
the flow and I ain't got much to bitch about.

[#BeamMeUpScotty]

Post by Ted

Post by #BeamMeUpScotty

Post by Ted

Post by Bud Frawley

Post by Gunner Asch
On Thu, 11 Jan 2018 16:35:51 -0800, David Elsan

Post by David Elsan

Post by David Elsan
WASHINGTON — President Trump on Thursday balked at an immigration deal

that would include protections for people from Haiti and African
countries, demanding to know at a White House meeting why he should
accept immigrants from “shithole countries” rather than people from
places like Norway, according to people with direct knowledge of the
conversation.
Mr. Trump’s remarks left members of Congress attending the meeting in
the Cabinet Room alarmed and mystified. They were there discussing an
emerging bipartisan deal to give legal status to immigrants illegally
brought to the United States as children, the people said, speaking on
condition of anonymity without authorization to discuss the explosive
proceedings of the private meeting.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/11/us/politics/trump-shithole-countries.html
Trump complains about allowing immigrants from 'shithole' countries
As he rejected a bipartisan compromise to resolve the standoff over
so-called Dreamers, President Trump asked participants in an Oval Office
meeting Thursday why the United States should accept immigrants from
“shithole countries” in Africa, Central America and the Caribbean,
according to two people briefed on the meeting.
“What do we want Haitians here for?” the president asked, according to
the people briefed. “Why do we want all these people from Africa here?
Why do we want all these people from shithole countries?"
The president added: "We should have people from places like Norway."
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-congress-dreamers-20180111-story.html
Let's see how that shithead in a shithole Bit of Nothingness tries to
defend this one.

Post by David Elsan
Trump indeed have some very good questions. Why SHOULD we deal with

immigrants from shithole countries like Africa and the Middle East?

Post by David Elsan
Turd worlders come here for THEIR benifit...not for ours.

*Every* immigrant comes here for his own benefit and not for ours, you
fucktard. So what?

Exactly.

That's why we need to control it.

The strings are pulled by folks much more powerful than us. I just go with
the flow and I ain't got much to bitch about.

I'm wired to try to make things better, no matter what I'm doing. I
don't have to succeed I just have to try to move thing towards success.

Being a spectator is NOT my choice, although it may be my role in some
parts of life, it doesn't mean I have to like it.

[Malcolm McMahon]

Post by David Elsan
The president added: "We should have people from places like Norway."

But then, Norway is way ahead of the US on just about every quality of life measurement, so why would Norwegians want to move there?

[Christopher A. Lee]

On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 06:21:36 -0800 (PST), Malcolm McMahon

Post by Malcolm McMahon

Post by David Elsan
The president added: "We should have people from places like Norway."

But then, Norway is way ahead of the US on just about every quality of life measurement, so why would Norwegians want to move there?

People On Twitter Tell Trump No One In Norway Wants To Come To His
‘Shithole Country’

“@realDonaldTrump no one from Norway wants to come to this shithole
country. They have healthcare for all, family leave, free education
and real gun control.”

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-shithole-countries-norway_us_5a58199ce4b0720dc4c5b6dc

https://tinyurl.com/ybjj6whv

[default]

On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 08:37:12 -0600, Christopher A. Lee

Post by Christopher A. Lee
On Fri, 12 Jan 2018 06:21:36 -0800 (PST), Malcolm McMahon

Post by Malcolm McMahon

Post by David Elsan
The president added: "We should have people from places like Norway."

But then, Norway is way ahead of the US on just about every quality of life measurement, so why would Norwegians want to move there?

People On Twitter Tell Trump No One In Norway Wants To Come To His
‘Shithole Country’
country. They have healthcare for all, family leave, free education
and real gun control.”
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-shithole-countries-norway_us_5a58199ce4b0720dc4c5b6dc
https://tinyurl.com/ybjj6whv

We've got the ass hole trump, we are a shithole country.

[Evolve This Then We Will Talk About Science]

Post by David Elsan
WASHINGTON — President Trump on Thursday balked at an immigration deal
that would include protections for people from Haiti and African
countries, demanding to know at a White House meeting why he should
accept immigrants from “shithole countries” rather than people from
places like Norway, according to people with direct knowledge of the
conversation.
Mr. Trump’s remarks left members of Congress attending the meeting in
the Cabinet Room alarmed and mystified. They were there discussing an
emerging bipartisan deal to give legal status to immigrants illegally
brought to the United States as children, the people said, speaking on
condition of anonymity without authorization to discuss the explosive
proceedings of the private meeting.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/11/us/politics/trump-shithole-countries.html
Trump complains about allowing immigrants from 'shithole' countries
As he rejected a bipartisan compromise to resolve the standoff over
so-called Dreamers, President Trump asked participants in an Oval Office
meeting Thursday why the United States should accept immigrants from
“shithole countries” in Africa, Central America and the Caribbean,
according to two people briefed on the meeting.
“What do we want Haitians here for?” the president asked, according to
the people briefed. “Why do we want all these people from Africa here?
Why do we want all these people from shithole countries?"
The president added: "We should have people from places like Norway."
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-congress-dreamers-20180111-story.html
Let's see how that shithead in a shithole Bit of Nothingness tries to
defend this one.

Those LawMakers are just humbug.... Trump didn't say anything new If he ever said anything at all.

[Ted]

Post by Evolve This Then We Will Talk About Science

Post by David Elsan
WASHINGTON — President Trump on Thursday balked at an immigration deal
that would include protections for people from Haiti and African
countries, demanding to know at a White House meeting why he should
accept immigrants from “shithole countries” rather than people from
places like Norway, according to people with direct knowledge of the
conversation.
Mr. Trump’s remarks left members of Congress attending the meeting in
the Cabinet Room alarmed and mystified. They were there discussing an
emerging bipartisan deal to give legal status to immigrants illegally
brought to the United States as children, the people said, speaking on
condition of anonymity without authorization to discuss the explosive
proceedings of the private meeting.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/11/us/politics/trump-shithole-countries.html
Trump complains about allowing immigrants from 'shithole' countries
As he rejected a bipartisan compromise to resolve the standoff over
so-called Dreamers, President Trump asked participants in an Oval Office
meeting Thursday why the United States should accept immigrants from
“shithole countries” in Africa, Central America and the Caribbean,
according to two people briefed on the meeting.
“What do we want Haitians here for?” the president asked, according to
the people briefed. “Why do we want all these people from Africa here?
Why do we want all these people from shithole countries?"
The president added: "We should have people from places like Norway."
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-congress-dreamers-20180111-story.html
Let's see how that shithead in a shithole Bit of Nothingness tries to
defend this one.

Those LawMakers are just humbug.... Trump didn't say anything new If he
ever said anything at all.

Trump knew when the immigration parity would be revamped and chose not to
slip until Wall Street retires next week. I suspect you understand that as
well as we all do, at least plaptatically.