Illinois Leaders Demand State Abolish Teaching History in Schools

Post by BTR1701
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/chicago-area-leaders-call-for-illinois-
to-eliminate-history-classes/2315752/
Leaders in education, politics, and other areas gathered in suburban Evanston
Sunday to ask that the Illinois State Board of Education change the history
curriculum at schools statewide, and temporarily halt instruction until an
alternative is decided upon.
At a news conference, State Rep. LaShawn K. Ford said current history
teachings lead to a racist society and overlook the contributions of women
and minorities.
Before the event Sunday, Rep. Ford's office distributed a news release "Rep.
Ford Today in Evanston to Call for the Abolishment of History Classes in
Illinois Schools," in which Ford asked the ISBOE and school districts to
immediately remove history curriculum and books that "unfairly communicate"
history "until a suitable alternative is developed."

And if it takes years before they can agree upon a suitable
alternative? I guess that's one way to ensure we end up repeating the
mistakes of the past.

moviePig

2020-08-04 14:29:15 UTC

Post by shawn

And if it takes years before they can agree upon a suitable
alternative? I guess that's one way to ensure we end up repeating the
mistakes of the past.

Yes, "immediately" often indicates a shallowness of underlying thought.

Rhino

2020-08-03 23:08:44 UTC

Why do I have the feeling that Ford will only be satisfied if the 1619
narrative forms the core of the new history curriculum?

--
Rhino

FPP

2020-08-03 23:29:23 UTC

Why do I have the feeling that Ford will only be satisfied if the 1619
narrative forms the core of the new history curriculum?

Probably because you're an idiot that constantly jumps to conclusions.
Just a guess.

The simple fact is that our schools teach a version of history that
leaves out the facts, and tends to glorify figures that don't deserve.

God forbid we actually teach what happened.
--
History will show when Tyranny came to the streets of America, the 3%,
Militiamen and Gun Nuts, who like to dress up as GI Joe in tactical
gear, were nowhere to be seen.
But a bunch of Moms dressed in yellow, wearing bicycle helmets, stood
tall. - Rob Chappell

"Leaders who have hidden in a bunker and gassed their own citizens
include Saddam Hussein, Adolf Hitler and Donald [Bunker Bitch] Trump." -
Ben Wexler
REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.

Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20

Ubiquitous

2020-08-03 23:46:48 UTC

Post by BTR1701
Leaders in education, politics, and other areas gathered in suburban Evanston
Sunday to ask that the Illinois State Board of Education change the history
curriculum at schools statewide, and temporarily halt instruction until an
alternative is decided upon.
At a news conference, State Rep. LaShawn K. Ford said current history
teachings lead to a racist society and overlook the contributions of women
and minorities.
Before the event Sunday, Rep. Ford's office distributed a news release "Rep.
Ford Today in Evanston to Call for the Abolishment of History Classes in
Illinois Schools," in which Ford asked the ISBOE and school districts to
immediately remove history curriculum and books that "unfairly communicate"
history "until a suitable alternative is developed."

Why do I have the feeling that Ford will only be satisfied if the 1619
narrative forms the core of the new history curriculum?

It's what they demanded, actually.

--
"It took a worldwide pandemic. It took a 35% plunge in the stock
market. It took quarantining. It took many small businesses closing. It
took canceling practically everything, to bring the USA economy back to
the Obama high mark."

Rhino

2020-08-03 23:55:16 UTC

Why do I have the feeling that Ford will only be satisfied if the 1619
narrative forms the core of the new history curriculum?

When the curriculum finally resembles what YOU believe, we're going to
hear a lot less (or at least a lot less GOOD) about George Washington
and Abe Lincoln and a lot more about how wonderful Karl Marx, Vlad
Lenin, Lev Trotsky, Chairman Mao, Fidel Castro and Pol Pot were....

Post by FPP
God forbid we actually teach what happened.

You wouldn't know the truth if it hit you hard across the ass with a 2 x 4.

--
Rhino

FPP

2020-08-04 00:13:21 UTC

Post by BTR1701
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/chicago-area-leaders-call-for-illinois-
to-eliminate-history-classes/2315752/
Leaders in education, politics, and other areas gathered in suburban Evanston
Sunday to ask that the Illinois State Board of Education change the history
curriculum at schools statewide, and temporarily halt instruction until an
alternative is decided upon.
At a news conference, State Rep. LaShawn K. Ford said current history
teachings lead to a racist society and overlook the contributions of women
and minorities.
Before the event Sunday, Rep. Ford's office distributed a news release "Rep.
Ford Today in Evanston to Call for the Abolishment of History Classes in
Illinois Schools," in which Ford asked the ISBOE and school
districts to
immediately remove history curriculum and books that "unfairly communicate"
history "until a suitable alternative is developed."

Why do I have the feeling that Ford will only be satisfied if the
1619 narrative forms the core of the new history curriculum?

Post by FPP
God forbid we actually teach what happened.

You wouldn't know the truth if it hit you hard across the ass with a 2 x 4.

Nope, Rhino. I'm in favor of teaching facts, not fantasy. Your
continual bullshit about Communism and Marxism is nothing more than a
desperate clutching at straws.

Washington was absolutely shitty when it came to slave-holding. He just
WAS. They all were.
You won't read about that in most history books, but he was a really
shitty human being, in terms of owning slaves.

You want details? Sure... but be sure to cover your virgin ears, cuz
you aren't going to like it - but these are the FACTS.

"But there’s also a record of him ordering an enslaved man to be whipped
for walking on the lawn, Thompson said. Washington aggressively pursued
runaways, and took steps to prevent his enslaved people from being freed
accidentally while visiting free states. Plus, he was a workaholic, and
sometimes expressed an obtuse dismay that the people he enslaved didn’t,
by his estimation, work as hard as he did.

Washington left instructions to free the 123 people he owned when he
died, which was a rare move at the time, and one that he hoped would set
an example. But those instructions came with some big asterisks. First,
he stipulated that the enslaved people wouldn’t actually be freed until
after his wife’s death."

Washington was a product of his times... and should be taught that way.
--
History will show when Tyranny came to the streets of America, the 3%,
Militiamen and Gun Nuts, who like to dress up as GI Joe in tactical
gear, were nowhere to be seen.
But a bunch of Moms dressed in yellow, wearing bicycle helmets, stood
tall. - Rob Chappell

"Leaders who have hidden in a bunker and gassed their own citizens
include Saddam Hussein, Adolf Hitler and Donald [Bunker Bitch] Trump." -
Ben Wexler
REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.

Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20

FPP

2020-08-03 23:52:55 UTC

Why do I have the feeling that Ford will only be satisfied if the 1619
narrative forms the core of the new history curriculum?

Slavery existed in the "Free State" of Illinois. Did you know that? No?
And if you were taught in Illinois schools, you wouldn't learn it, either.

https://www.propublica.org/article/slavery-existed-in-illinois-but-schools-dont-always-teach-that-history

Yeah, education needs to teach what actually happened... not what we
like to think happened.
What's the problem with teaching the truth, Rhino?

I mean, besides "Truth isn't Truth!"?
--
History will show when Tyranny came to the streets of America, the 3%,
Militiamen and Gun Nuts, who like to dress up as GI Joe in tactical
gear, were nowhere to be seen.
But a bunch of Moms dressed in yellow, wearing bicycle helmets, stood
tall. - Rob Chappell

"Leaders who have hidden in a bunker and gassed their own citizens
include Saddam Hussein, Adolf Hitler and Donald [Bunker Bitch] Trump." -
Ben Wexler
REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.

Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20

BTR1701

2020-08-04 00:15:34 UTC

Post by BTR1701
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/chicago-area-leaders-call-for-illinoi
s-
to-eliminate-history-classes/2315752/
Leaders in education, politics, and other areas gathered in suburban Evanston
Sunday to ask that the Illinois State Board of Education change the history
curriculum at schools statewide, and temporarily halt instruction until an
alternative is decided upon.
At a news conference, State Rep. LaShawn K. Ford said current history
teachings lead to a racist society and overlook the contributions of women
and minorities.
Before the event Sunday, Rep. Ford's office distributed a news release "Rep.
Ford Today in Evanston to Call for the Abolishment of History Classes in
Illinois Schools," in which Ford asked the ISBOE and school districts to
immediately remove history curriculum and books that "unfairly communicate"
history "until a suitable alternative is developed."

Why do I have the feeling that Ford will only be satisfied if the 1619
narrative forms the core of the new history curriculum?

Slavery existed in the "Free State" of Illinois. Did you know that? No?

Yes, I did know that, so you're lying.

FPP

2020-08-04 00:41:14 UTC

Post by BTR1701
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/chicago-area-leaders-call-for-illinoi
s-
to-eliminate-history-classes/2315752/
Leaders in education, politics, and other areas gathered in suburban Evanston
Sunday to ask that the Illinois State Board of Education change the history
curriculum at schools statewide, and temporarily halt instruction until an
alternative is decided upon.
At a news conference, State Rep. LaShawn K. Ford said current history
teachings lead to a racist society and overlook the contributions of women
and minorities.
Before the event Sunday, Rep. Ford's office distributed a news release "Rep.
Ford Today in Evanston to Call for the Abolishment of History Classes in
Illinois Schools," in which Ford asked the ISBOE and school districts to
immediately remove history curriculum and books that "unfairly communicate"
history "until a suitable alternative is developed."

Why do I have the feeling that Ford will only be satisfied if the 1619
narrative forms the core of the new history curriculum?

Slavery existed in the "Free State" of Illinois. Did you know that? No?

Yes, I did know that, so you're lying.

Your new name is "Rhino", now, is it?
--
History will show when Tyranny came to the streets of America, the 3%,
Militiamen and Gun Nuts, who like to dress up as GI Joe in tactical
gear, were nowhere to be seen.
But a bunch of Moms dressed in yellow, wearing bicycle helmets, stood
tall. - Rob Chappell

"Leaders who have hidden in a bunker and gassed their own citizens
include Saddam Hussein, Adolf Hitler and Donald [Bunker Bitch] Trump." -
Ben Wexler
REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.

Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20

FPP

2020-08-04 00:44:58 UTC

Post by BTR1701
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/chicago-area-leaders-call-for-illinoi
s-
to-eliminate-history-classes/2315752/
Leaders in education, politics, and other areas gathered in suburban Evanston
Sunday to ask that the Illinois State Board of Education change the history
curriculum at schools statewide, and temporarily halt instruction until an
alternative is decided upon.
At a news conference, State Rep. LaShawn K. Ford said current history
teachings lead to a racist society and overlook the contributions of women
and minorities.
Before the event Sunday, Rep. Ford's office distributed a news release "Rep.
Ford Today in Evanston to Call for the Abolishment of History Classes in
Illinois Schools," in which Ford asked the ISBOE and school districts to
immediately remove history curriculum and books that "unfairly communicate"
history "until a suitable alternative is developed."

Why do I have the feeling that Ford will only be satisfied if the 1619
narrative forms the core of the new history curriculum?

Slavery existed in the "Free State" of Illinois. Did you know that? No?

Yes, I did know that, so you're lying.

They don't teach that Illinois (a free state) had slaves. So, no... you
wouldn't learn it there.

And you're still not Rhino, right?
--
History will show when Tyranny came to the streets of America, the 3%,
Militiamen and Gun Nuts, who like to dress up as GI Joe in tactical
gear, were nowhere to be seen.
But a bunch of Moms dressed in yellow, wearing bicycle helmets, stood
tall. - Rob Chappell

"Leaders who have hidden in a bunker and gassed their own citizens
include Saddam Hussein, Adolf Hitler and Donald [Bunker Bitch] Trump." -
Ben Wexler
REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.

Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20

FPP

2020-08-04 00:46:02 UTC

Post by BTR1701
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/chicago-area-leaders-call-for-illinoi
s-
to-eliminate-history-classes/2315752/
Leaders in education, politics, and other areas gathered in suburban Evanston
Sunday to ask that the Illinois State Board of Education change the history
curriculum at schools statewide, and temporarily halt instruction until an
alternative is decided upon.
At a news conference, State Rep. LaShawn K. Ford said current history
teachings lead to a racist society and overlook the contributions of women
and minorities.
Before the event Sunday, Rep. Ford's office distributed a news
release
"Rep.
Ford Today in Evanston to Call for the Abolishment of History Classes in
Illinois Schools," in which Ford asked the ISBOE and school districts to
immediately remove history curriculum and books that "unfairly communicate"
history "until a suitable alternative is developed."

Why do I have the feeling that Ford will only be satisfied if the 1619
narrative forms the core of the new history curriculum?

Slavery existed in the "Free State" of Illinois. Did you know that? No?

Yes, I did know that, so you're lying.

Good thing you snipped the rest of my post, otherwise we'd ALL know
you're a fucking liar.
--
History will show when Tyranny came to the streets of America, the 3%,
Militiamen and Gun Nuts, who like to dress up as GI Joe in tactical
gear, were nowhere to be seen.
But a bunch of Moms dressed in yellow, wearing bicycle helmets, stood
tall. - Rob Chappell

"Leaders who have hidden in a bunker and gassed their own citizens
include Saddam Hussein, Adolf Hitler and Donald [Bunker Bitch] Trump." -
Ben Wexler
REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.

Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20

Rhino

2020-08-04 02:01:38 UTC

Post by BTR1701
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/chicago-area-leaders-call-for-illinoi
s-
to-eliminate-history-classes/2315752/
Leaders in education, politics, and other areas gathered in suburban Evanston
Sunday to ask that the Illinois State Board of Education change the history
curriculum at schools statewide, and temporarily halt instruction until an
alternative is decided upon.
At a news conference, State Rep. LaShawn K. Ford said current history
teachings lead to a racist society and overlook the contributions of women
and minorities.
Before the event Sunday, Rep. Ford's office distributed a news
release
"Rep.
Ford Today in Evanston to Call for the Abolishment of History Classes in
Illinois Schools," in which Ford asked the ISBOE and school districts to
immediately remove history curriculum and books that "unfairly communicate"
history "until a suitable alternative is developed."

Why do I have the feeling that Ford will only be satisfied if the 1619
narrative forms the core of the new history curriculum?

Slavery existed in the "Free State" of Illinois. Did you know that? No?

Yes, I did know that, so you're lying.

They don't teach that Illinois (a free state) had slaves. So, no... you
wouldn't learn it there.
And you're still not Rhino, right?

Fuck off! You have no hesitation whatever in butting into other people's
conversations whenever it suits you so don't waste our time getting
indignant about BTR jumping in once in a blue moon.

--
Rhino

FPP

2020-08-04 06:50:47 UTC

Post by BTR1701
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/chicago-area-leaders-call-for-illinoi
s-
to-eliminate-history-classes/2315752/
Leaders in education, politics, and other areas gathered in suburban Evanston
Sunday to ask that the Illinois State Board of Education change the history
curriculum at schools statewide, and temporarily halt instruction until an
alternative is decided upon.
At a news conference, State Rep. LaShawn K. Ford said current history
teachings lead to a racist society and overlook the contributions of women
and minorities.
Before the event Sunday, Rep. Ford's office distributed a news
release
"Rep.
Ford Today in Evanston to Call for the Abolishment of History Classes in
Illinois Schools," in which Ford asked the ISBOE and school districts to
immediately remove history curriculum and books that "unfairly communicate"
history "until a suitable alternative is developed."

Why do I have the feeling that Ford will only be satisfied if the 1619
narrative forms the core of the new history curriculum?

Slavery existed in the "Free State" of Illinois. Did you know that? No?

Yes, I did know that, so you're lying.

They don't teach that Illinois (a free state) had slaves. So, no...
you wouldn't learn it there.
And you're still not Rhino, right?

Fuck off! You have no hesitation whatever in butting into other people's
conversations whenever it suits you so don't waste our time getting
indignant about BTR jumping in once in a blue moon.

Stupid... I was doing exactly the opposite. You can't read any better
than your buddy.
I never told him to butt out - just that I was responding to your post.

Jesus, you need to go back to school.
--
History will show when Tyranny came to the streets of America, the 3%,
Militiamen and Gun Nuts, who like to dress up as GI Joe in tactical
gear, were nowhere to be seen.
But a bunch of Moms dressed in yellow, wearing bicycle helmets, stood
tall. - Rob Chappell

"Leaders who have hidden in a bunker and gassed their own citizens
include Saddam Hussein, Adolf Hitler and Donald [Bunker Bitch] Trump." -
Ben Wexler
REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.

Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20

BTR1701

2020-08-04 03:02:44 UTC

Post by Rhino
Why do I have the feeling that Ford will only be satisfied if the 1619
narrative forms the core of the new history curriculum?

Slavery existed in the "Free State" of Illinois. Did you know that? No?

Yes, I did know that, so you're lying.

They don't teach that Illinois (a free state) had slaves. So, no... you
wouldn't learn it there.

Never said I would learn it there. Nor was that your assertion.

And you're still not Rhino, right?

No more than you're still not Ian, right?

FPP

2020-08-04 06:51:40 UTC

Post by Rhino
Why do I have the feeling that Ford will only be satisfied if the 1619
narrative forms the core of the new history curriculum?

Slavery existed in the "Free State" of Illinois. Did you know that? No?

Yes, I did know that, so you're lying.

They don't teach that Illinois (a free state) had slaves. So, no... you
wouldn't learn it there.

Never said I would learn it there. Nor was that your assertion.

And you're still not Rhino, right?

No more than you're still not Ian, right?

Nobody will learn it there, since they don't teach it. Not even Fake
Secret Agents, or Fake loyers.
--
History will show when Tyranny came to the streets of America, the 3%,
Militiamen and Gun Nuts, who like to dress up as GI Joe in tactical
gear, were nowhere to be seen.
But a bunch of Moms dressed in yellow, wearing bicycle helmets, stood
tall. - Rob Chappell

"Leaders who have hidden in a bunker and gassed their own citizens
include Saddam Hussein, Adolf Hitler and Donald [Bunker Bitch] Trump." -
Ben Wexler
REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.

Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20

BTR1701

2020-08-04 03:01:48 UTC

Post by Rhino
Why do I have the feeling that Ford will only be satisfied if the 1619
narrative forms the core of the new history curriculum?

Slavery existed in the "Free State" of Illinois. Did you know that? No?

Yes, I did know that, so you're lying.

Your new name is "Rhino", now, is it?

Same way yours is "Ian".

Adam H. Kerman

2020-08-04 03:39:55 UTC

Post by Rhino
Why do I have the feeling that Ford will only be satisfied if the 1619
narrative forms the core of the new history curriculum?

Slavery existed in the "Free State" of Illinois. Did you know that? No?

Yes, I did know that, so you're lying.

Your new name is "Rhino", now, is it?

Same way yours is "Ian".

Oh! That's mean.

FPP

2020-08-04 06:52:20 UTC

Post by Rhino
Why do I have the feeling that Ford will only be satisfied if the 1619
narrative forms the core of the new history curriculum?

Slavery existed in the "Free State" of Illinois. Did you know that? No?

Yes, I did know that, so you're lying.

Your new name is "Rhino", now, is it?

Same way yours is "Ian".

For once, you're accurate! It's a fine start!
--
History will show when Tyranny came to the streets of America, the 3%,
Militiamen and Gun Nuts, who like to dress up as GI Joe in tactical
gear, were nowhere to be seen.
But a bunch of Moms dressed in yellow, wearing bicycle helmets, stood
tall. - Rob Chappell

"Leaders who have hidden in a bunker and gassed their own citizens
include Saddam Hussein, Adolf Hitler and Donald [Bunker Bitch] Trump." -
Ben Wexler
REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.

Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20

trotsky

2020-08-04 13:03:55 UTC

Post by BTR1701
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/chicago-area-leaders-call-for-illinoi
s-
to-eliminate-history-classes/2315752/
Leaders in education, politics, and other areas gathered in suburban Evanston
Sunday to ask that the Illinois State Board of Education change the history
curriculum at schools statewide, and temporarily halt instruction until an
alternative is decided upon.
At a news conference, State Rep. LaShawn K. Ford said current history
teachings lead to a racist society and overlook the contributions of women
and minorities.
Before the event Sunday, Rep. Ford's office distributed a news release "Rep.
Ford Today in Evanston to Call for the Abolishment of History Classes in
Illinois Schools," in which Ford asked the ISBOE and school districts to
immediately remove history curriculum and books that "unfairly communicate"
history "until a suitable alternative is developed."

Why do I have the feeling that Ford will only be satisfied if the 1619
narrative forms the core of the new history curriculum?

Slavery existed in the "Free State" of Illinois. Did you know that? No?

Yes, I did know that, so you're lying.

Your new name is "Rhino", now, is it?

That's a tacit admission of sockpuppetry.

Adam H. Kerman

2020-08-04 01:47:27 UTC

Post by BTR1701
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/chicago-area-leaders-call-for-illinoi

Post by BTR1701
s-
to-eliminate-history-classes/2315752/
Leaders in education, politics, and other areas gathered in suburban Evanston
Sunday to ask that the Illinois State Board of Education change the history
curriculum at schools statewide, and temporarily halt instruction until an
alternative is decided upon.
At a news conference, State Rep. LaShawn K. Ford said current history
teachings lead to a racist society and overlook the contributions of women
and minorities.
Before the event Sunday, Rep. Ford's office distributed a news release "Rep.
Ford Today in Evanston to Call for the Abolishment of History Classes in
Illinois Schools," in which Ford asked the ISBOE and school districts to
immediately remove history curriculum and books that "unfairly communicate"
history "until a suitable alternative is developed."

Why do I have the feeling that Ford will only be satisfied if the 1619
narrative forms the core of the new history curriculum?

Slavery existed in the "Free State" of Illinois. Did you know that? No?

Yes, I did know that, so you're lying.

The salt mines were a form of indentured servitude; they made an
exception for that.

There were slaves brought into Illinois territory, but the state was
admitted as a free state. It was truly a matter of segretation, not
support for abolition, as Illinois was settled from Kentucky.

All of this was illegal under the Northwest Ordinance, which forbid
slavery in states and territories carved from the Norhwest Territory.

trotsky

2020-08-04 13:01:46 UTC

Post by BTR1701
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/chicago-area-leaders-call-for-illinoi
s-
to-eliminate-history-classes/2315752/
Leaders in education, politics, and other areas gathered in suburban Evanston
Sunday to ask that the Illinois State Board of Education change the history
curriculum at schools statewide, and temporarily halt instruction until an
alternative is decided upon.
At a news conference, State Rep. LaShawn K. Ford said current history
teachings lead to a racist society and overlook the contributions of women
and minorities.
Before the event Sunday, Rep. Ford's office distributed a news release "Rep.
Ford Today in Evanston to Call for the Abolishment of History Classes in
Illinois Schools," in which Ford asked the ISBOE and school districts to
immediately remove history curriculum and books that "unfairly communicate"
history "until a suitable alternative is developed."

Why do I have the feeling that Ford will only be satisfied if the 1619
narrative forms the core of the new history curriculum?

Slavery existed in the "Free State" of Illinois. Did you know that? No?

Yes, I did know that, so you're lying.

Looks like he was responding to Rhino, so should we take this as another
admission of your sockpuppetry? You fucking moron.

Rhino

2020-08-04 01:59:48 UTC

Why do I have the feeling that Ford will only be satisfied if the 1619
narrative forms the core of the new history curriculum?

getting behind courses that show the TENS OF MILLIONS of people murdered
at the behest of the Marxist dictators: Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Castro, Pol
Pot, the Kim Dynasty, etc. Are you up for that?

--
Rhino

FPP

2020-08-04 06:52:58 UTC

Post by BTR1701
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/chicago-area-leaders-call-for-illinois-
to-eliminate-history-classes/2315752/
Leaders in education, politics, and other areas gathered in suburban Evanston
Sunday to ask that the Illinois State Board of Education change the history
curriculum at schools statewide, and temporarily halt instruction until an
alternative is decided upon.
At a news conference, State Rep. LaShawn K. Ford said current history
teachings lead to a racist society and overlook the contributions of women
and minorities.
Before the event Sunday, Rep. Ford's office distributed a news release "Rep.
Ford Today in Evanston to Call for the Abolishment of History Classes in
Illinois Schools," in which Ford asked the ISBOE and school
districts to
immediately remove history curriculum and books that "unfairly communicate"
history "until a suitable alternative is developed."

Why do I have the feeling that Ford will only be satisfied if the
1619 narrative forms the core of the new history curriculum?

getting behind courses that show the TENS OF MILLIONS of people murdered
at the behest of the Marxist dictators: Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Castro, Pol
Pot, the Kim Dynasty, etc. Are you up for that?

Go tell it to a Marxist, then... but don't bother me with your idiotic
labels.
--
History will show when Tyranny came to the streets of America, the 3%,
Militiamen and Gun Nuts, who like to dress up as GI Joe in tactical
gear, were nowhere to be seen.
But a bunch of Moms dressed in yellow, wearing bicycle helmets, stood
tall. - Rob Chappell

"Leaders who have hidden in a bunker and gassed their own citizens
include Saddam Hussein, Adolf Hitler and Donald [Bunker Bitch] Trump." -
Ben Wexler
REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.

Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20

Rhino

2020-08-04 14:13:15 UTC

Why do I have the feeling that Ford will only be satisfied if the
1619 narrative forms the core of the new history curriculum?

getting behind courses that show the TENS OF MILLIONS of people
murdered at the behest of the Marxist dictators: Lenin, Stalin, Mao,
Castro, Pol Pot, the Kim Dynasty, etc. Are you up for that?

Go tell it to a Marxist, then...

So you're fine with the truth of the Marxist dictators being widely taught??

Post by FPP
but don't bother me with your idiotic labels.

So your theory is that Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Castro, Pol Pot and the Kims
were NOT Marxists?

--
Rhino

FPP

2020-08-04 20:39:18 UTC

Why do I have the feeling that Ford will only be satisfied if the
1619 narrative forms the core of the new history curriculum?

getting behind courses that show the TENS OF MILLIONS of people
murdered at the behest of the Marxist dictators: Lenin, Stalin, Mao,
Castro, Pol Pot, the Kim Dynasty, etc. Are you up for that?

Go tell it to a Marxist, then...

So you're fine with the truth of the Marxist dictators being widely taught??

Post by FPP
but don't bother me with your idiotic labels.

So your theory is that Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Castro, Pol Pot and the Kims
were NOT Marxists?

Of course they should teach marxism. And fascism. And communism. They
should teach ALL those things, and more, It's called 'teaching history'.

Sure they're all Marxists.. and that's why they should be taught.
Jesus, YOU know about them because you were presumably taught about them.

I'm not a Marxist, and I don't know anybody that is.
--
History will show when Tyranny came to the streets of America, the 3%,
Militiamen and Gun Nuts, who like to dress up as GI Joe in tactical
gear, were nowhere to be seen.
But a bunch of Moms dressed in yellow, wearing bicycle helmets, stood
tall. - Rob Chappell

"Leaders who have hidden in a bunker and gassed their own citizens
include Saddam Hussein, Adolf Hitler and Donald [Bunker Bitch] Trump." -
Ben Wexler
REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.

Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20

BTR1701

2020-08-04 23:28:51 UTC

Why do I have the feeling that Ford will only be satisfied if the
1619 narrative forms the core of the new history curriculum?

getting behind courses that show the TENS OF MILLIONS of people
murdered at the behest of the Marxist dictators: Lenin, Stalin, Mao,
Castro, Pol Pot, the Kim Dynasty, etc. Are you up for that?

Go tell it to a Marxist, then...

So you're fine with the truth of the Marxist dictators being widely taught??

Post by FPP
but don't bother me with your idiotic labels.

So your theory is that Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Castro, Pol Pot and the Kims
were NOT Marxists?

But one of the hallmarks if Marxism is censorship of all competing
ideologies. A Marxist will only teach Marxism. Nothing else.

FPP

2020-08-05 01:40:52 UTC

Why do I have the feeling that Ford will only be satisfied if the
1619 narrative forms the core of the new history curriculum?

getting behind courses that show the TENS OF MILLIONS of people
murdered at the behest of the Marxist dictators: Lenin, Stalin, Mao,
Castro, Pol Pot, the Kim Dynasty, etc. Are you up for that?

Go tell it to a Marxist, then...

So you're fine with the truth of the Marxist dictators being widely taught??

Post by FPP
but don't bother me with your idiotic labels.

So your theory is that Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Castro, Pol Pot and the Kims
were NOT Marxists?

But one of the hallmarks if Marxism is censorship of all competing
ideologies. A Marxist will only teach Marxism. Nothing else.

You DO know what "I alone can fix it!" Trump has said about the media,
right?
--
History will show when Tyranny came to the streets of America, the 3%,
Militiamen and Gun Nuts, who like to dress up as GI Joe in tactical
gear, were nowhere to be seen.
But a bunch of Moms dressed in yellow, wearing bicycle helmets, stood
tall. - Rob Chappell

"Leaders who have hidden in a bunker and gassed their own citizens
include Saddam Hussein, Adolf Hitler and Donald [Bunker Bitch] Trump." -
Ben Wexler
REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.

Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20

Rhino

2020-08-05 02:14:27 UTC

Post by BTR1701
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/chicago-area-leaders-call-for-illinois-
to-eliminate-history-classes/2315752/
Leaders in education, politics, and other areas gathered in
suburban Evanston
Sunday to ask that the Illinois State Board of Education change the history
curriculum at schools statewide, and temporarily halt instruction until an
alternative is decided upon.
At a news conference, State Rep. LaShawn K. Ford said current history
teachings lead to a racist society and overlook the contributions of women
and minorities.
Before the event Sunday, Rep. Ford's office distributed a news
release "Rep.
Ford Today in Evanston to Call for the Abolishment of History Classes in
Illinois Schools," in which Ford asked the ISBOE and school districts to
immediately remove history curriculum and books that "unfairly communicate"
history "until a suitable alternative is developed."

Why do I have the feeling that Ford will only be satisfied if the
1619 narrative forms the core of the new history curriculum?

getting behind courses that show the TENS OF MILLIONS of people
murdered at the behest of the Marxist dictators: Lenin, Stalin, Mao,
Castro, Pol Pot, the Kim Dynasty, etc. Are you up for that?

Go tell it to a Marxist, then...

So you're fine with the truth of the Marxist dictators being widely taught??

Post by FPP
but don't bother me with your idiotic labels.

So your theory is that Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Castro, Pol Pot and the Kims
were NOT Marxists?

But one of the hallmarks if Marxism is censorship of all competing
ideologies. A Marxist will only teach Marxism. Nothing else.

You DO know what "I alone can fix it!" Trump has said about the media,
right?

And here we go again: another change of subject when things get too real
for poor old FPP....

--
Rhino

BTR1701

2020-08-05 02:47:02 UTC

Post by BTR1701
Leaders in education, politics, and other areas gathered in
suburban Evanston Sunday to ask that the Illinois State Board
of Education change the history curriculum at schools statewide,
and temporarily halt instruction until an alternative is
decided upon.
At a news conference, State Rep. LaShawn K. Ford said current
history teachings lead to a racist society and overlook the
contributions of women and minorities.
Before the event Sunday, Rep. Ford's office distributed a news
release "Rep. Ford Today in Evanston to Call for the Abolishment
of History Classes in Illinois Schools," in which Ford asked
the ISBOE and school districts to immediately remove history
curriculum and books that "unfairly communicate" history "until
a suitable alternative is developed."

Why do I have the feeling that Ford will only be satisfied if the
1619 narrative forms the core of the new history curriculum?

Slavery existed in the "Free State" of Illinois. Did you know
that? No? And if you were taught in Illinois schools, you
wouldn't learn it, either.
Yeah, education needs to teach what actually happened... not
what we like to think happened. What's the problem with teaching
the truth, Rhino?
I mean, besides "Truth isn't Truth!"?
If you really believe in teaching truth, then you'll have no trouble

getting behind courses that show the TENS OF MILLIONS of people
murdered at the behest of the Marxist dictators: Lenin, Stalin, Mao,
Castro, Pol Pot, the Kim Dynasty, etc. Are you up for that?

Go tell it to a Marxist, then...

So you're fine with the truth of the Marxist dictators being widely taught??

Post by FPP
but don't bother me with your idiotic labels.

So your theory is that Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Castro, Pol Pot and the Kims
were NOT Marxists?

But one of the hallmarks if Marxism is censorship of all competing
ideologies. A Marxist will only teach Marxism. Nothing else.

You DO know what "I alone can fix it!" Trump has said about the media,
right?

And here we go again: another change of subject when things get too real
for poor old FPP....

Yep, another thread that has nothing to do with Trump and FPP
immediately tries to make it about Trump. It's like a mental illness
with him.

FPP

2020-08-05 06:05:16 UTC

Post by BTR1701
Leaders in education, politics, and other areas gathered in
suburban Evanston Sunday to ask that the Illinois State Board
of Education change the history curriculum at schools statewide,
and temporarily halt instruction until an alternative is
decided upon.
At a news conference, State Rep. LaShawn K. Ford said current
history teachings lead to a racist society and overlook the
contributions of women and minorities.
Before the event Sunday, Rep. Ford's office distributed a news
release "Rep. Ford Today in Evanston to Call for the Abolishment
of History Classes in Illinois Schools," in which Ford asked
the ISBOE and school districts to immediately remove history
curriculum and books that "unfairly communicate" history "until
a suitable alternative is developed."

Why do I have the feeling that Ford will only be satisfied if the
1619 narrative forms the core of the new history curriculum?

getting behind courses that show the TENS OF MILLIONS of people
murdered at the behest of the Marxist dictators: Lenin, Stalin, Mao,
Castro, Pol Pot, the Kim Dynasty, etc. Are you up for that?

Go tell it to a Marxist, then...

So you're fine with the truth of the Marxist dictators being widely taught??

Post by FPP
but don't bother me with your idiotic labels.

So your theory is that Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Castro, Pol Pot and the Kims
were NOT Marxists?

But one of the hallmarks if Marxism is censorship of all competing
ideologies. A Marxist will only teach Marxism. Nothing else.

You DO know what "I alone can fix it!" Trump has said about the media,
right?

And here we go again: another change of subject when things get too real
for poor old FPP....

Yep, another thread that has nothing to do with Trump and FPP
immediately tries to make it about Trump. It's like a mental illness
with him.

We're talking fascism. We're talking dictators. We're talking leaders
who want to censor people.

Therefore, we're talking Trump.

PS - Your buddy Rhino started that shit. Blame him.
--
History will show when Tyranny came to the streets of America, the 3%,
Militiamen and Gun Nuts, who like to dress up as GI Joe in tactical
gear, were nowhere to be seen.
But a bunch of Moms dressed in yellow, wearing bicycle helmets, stood
tall. - Rob Chappell

"Leaders who have hidden in a bunker and gassed their own citizens
include Saddam Hussein, Adolf Hitler and Donald [Bunker Bitch] Trump." -
Ben Wexler
REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.

Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20

Rhino

2020-08-05 02:13:20 UTC

Why do I have the feeling that Ford will only be satisfied if the
1619 narrative forms the core of the new history curriculum?

getting behind courses that show the TENS OF MILLIONS of people
murdered at the behest of the Marxist dictators: Lenin, Stalin, Mao,
Castro, Pol Pot, the Kim Dynasty, etc. Are you up for that?

Go tell it to a Marxist, then...

So you're fine with the truth of the Marxist dictators being widely taught??

Post by FPP
but don't bother me with your idiotic labels.

So your theory is that Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Castro, Pol Pot and the
Kims were NOT Marxists?

Playing the old "I'm just a socialist card" yet again. Phooey! I didn't
believe you the last hundred times you played that card and I don't
believe it now.

In Stalin's time, despite the fact that his party was called the
Communist Party, the official line was that they were just "building
socialism" with communism coming somewhere in the possibly distant
future. Calling themselves the Communist Party was far more aspirational
than anything real.

--
Rhino

FPP

2020-08-05 02:16:14 UTC

Post by BTR1701
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/chicago-area-leaders-call-for-illinois-
to-eliminate-history-classes/2315752/
Leaders in education, politics, and other areas gathered in suburban Evanston
Sunday to ask that the Illinois State Board of Education change the history
curriculum at schools statewide, and temporarily halt
instruction until an
alternative is decided upon.
At a news conference, State Rep. LaShawn K. Ford said current history
teachings lead to a racist society and overlook the
contributions of women
and minorities.
Before the event Sunday, Rep. Ford's office distributed a news release "Rep.
Ford Today in Evanston to Call for the Abolishment of History Classes in
Illinois Schools," in which Ford asked the ISBOE and school districts to
immediately remove history curriculum and books that "unfairly communicate"
history "until a suitable alternative is developed."

Why do I have the feeling that Ford will only be satisfied if the
1619 narrative forms the core of the new history curriculum?

getting behind courses that show the TENS OF MILLIONS of people
murdered at the behest of the Marxist dictators: Lenin, Stalin,
Mao, Castro, Pol Pot, the Kim Dynasty, etc. Are you up for that?

Go tell it to a Marxist, then...

So you're fine with the truth of the Marxist dictators being widely taught??

Post by FPP
but don't bother me with your idiotic labels.

So your theory is that Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Castro, Pol Pot and the
Kims were NOT Marxists?

Playing the old "I'm just a socialist card" yet again. Phooey! I didn't
believe you the last hundred times you played that card and I don't
believe it now.
In Stalin's time, despite the fact that his party was called the
Communist Party, the official line was that they were just "building
socialism" with communism coming somewhere in the possibly distant
future. Calling themselves the Communist Party was far more aspirational
than anything real.

YOU live in one of the Top 10 most Socialist countries in the world,
comrade Rhino.
Why haven't you escaped the scourge of socialism by moving somewhere
else, tovarish?

You keep whinging about 'socialism', while sucking at that Socialist
Teat of the State for all it's worth, don't you?

Well, keep sucking, and I'll keep laughing at you!
--
History will show when Tyranny came to the streets of America, the 3%,
Militiamen and Gun Nuts, who like to dress up as GI Joe in tactical
gear, were nowhere to be seen.
But a bunch of Moms dressed in yellow, wearing bicycle helmets, stood
tall. - Rob Chappell

"Leaders who have hidden in a bunker and gassed their own citizens
include Saddam Hussein, Adolf Hitler and Donald [Bunker Bitch] Trump." -
Ben Wexler
REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.

Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20

FPP

2020-08-04 07:12:55 UTC

Post by BTR1701
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/chicago-area-leaders-call-for-illinois-
to-eliminate-history-classes/2315752/
Leaders in education, politics, and other areas gathered in suburban Evanston
Sunday to ask that the Illinois State Board of Education change the history
curriculum at schools statewide, and temporarily halt instruction until an
alternative is decided upon.
At a news conference, State Rep. LaShawn K. Ford said current history
teachings lead to a racist society and overlook the contributions of women
and minorities.
Before the event Sunday, Rep. Ford's office distributed a news release "Rep.
Ford Today in Evanston to Call for the Abolishment of History Classes in
Illinois Schools," in which Ford asked the ISBOE and school
districts to
immediately remove history curriculum and books that "unfairly communicate"
history "until a suitable alternative is developed."

Why do I have the feeling that Ford will only be satisfied if the
1619 narrative forms the core of the new history curriculum?

getting behind courses that show the TENS OF MILLIONS of people murdered
at the behest of the Marxist dictators: Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Castro, Pol
Pot, the Kim Dynasty, etc. Are you up for that?

And, yet, it's Trump that is buddy-buddy with the Communist leader in
Moscow?
Funny, isn't it?

I mean, a Communist pays bounties for dead Americans, and the guy YOU
idolize (whose #1 job is to protect Americans) admits he won't even ASK
him to stop it.

"Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump said he hasn't discussed US
intelligence that alleged Russia offered bounties to Taliban fighters to
kill US troops in Afghanistan with Russian President Vladimir Putin in a
recent telephone call.

"I have never discussed it with Putin. I would, I have no problem with
it," Trump said in a clip of the interview"

Who's the commie, now Rhino? Who's letting the commies kill Americans
in this scenario, Rhino?

Need any help figuring it out, you just let me know. Buh-bye!
--
History will show when Tyranny came to the streets of America, the 3%,
Militiamen and Gun Nuts, who like to dress up as GI Joe in tactical
gear, were nowhere to be seen.
But a bunch of Moms dressed in yellow, wearing bicycle helmets, stood
tall. - Rob Chappell

"Leaders who have hidden in a bunker and gassed their own citizens
include Saddam Hussein, Adolf Hitler and Donald [Bunker Bitch] Trump." -
Ben Wexler
REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.

Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20

Rhino

2020-08-04 14:25:32 UTC

Why do I have the feeling that Ford will only be satisfied if the
1619 narrative forms the core of the new history curriculum?

getting behind courses that show the TENS OF MILLIONS of people
murdered at the behest of the Marxist dictators: Lenin, Stalin, Mao,
Castro, Pol Pot, the Kim Dynasty, etc. Are you up for that?

And, yet, it's Trump that is buddy-buddy with the Communist leader in
Moscow?

Trump is friends with Gennady Zyuganov, the leader of the Communist
Party of the Russian Federation? This is the first I'm hearing of it but
so what; they're a minor party in the the Duma anyway.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_the_Russian_Federation

Post by FPP
Funny, isn't it?
I mean, a Communist pays bounties for dead Americans, and the guy YOU
idolize (whose #1 job is to protect Americans) admits he won't even ASK
him to stop it.

I don't think Gennady Zyuganov has the power to offer bounties on dead
Americans. He's a minor player in the Duma.

Post by FPP
"Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump said he hasn't discussed US
intelligence that alleged Russia offered bounties to Taliban fighters to
kill US troops in Afghanistan with Russian President Vladimir Putin in a
recent telephone call.
"I have never discussed it with Putin. I would, I have no problem with
it," Trump said in a clip of the interview"

So now you're alleging that Putin is head of the Communist Party? Your
assertion seems to be at odds with the facts - just like pretty much ALL
of your assertions in every post.

Post by FPP
Who's the commie, now Rhino? Who's letting the commies kill Americans
in this scenario, Rhino?
Need any help figuring it out, you just let me know. Buh-bye!

I don't need any help from you figuring out ANYTHING. Your motives are as
transparent as the finest glass. Your idea of teaching the "truth" in
history courses isn't some dedication to telling the truth ALL the time
but only when it makes your own country look bad in some way. You want
nothing to do with telling any truth that makes your country or its
citizens look good and you want nothing to do with telling truths that
make the ideologies of the Left look bad either.

--
Rhino

FPP

2020-08-04 20:41:14 UTC

Why do I have the feeling that Ford will only be satisfied if the
1619 narrative forms the core of the new history curriculum?

getting behind courses that show the TENS OF MILLIONS of people
murdered at the behest of the Marxist dictators: Lenin, Stalin, Mao,
Castro, Pol Pot, the Kim Dynasty, etc. Are you up for that?

And, yet, it's Trump that is buddy-buddy with the Communist leader in
Moscow?

Trump is friends with Gennady Zyuganov, the leader of the Communist
Party of the Russian Federation? This is the first I'm hearing of it but
so what; they're a minor party in the the Duma anyway.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_the_Russian_Federation

Post by FPP
Funny, isn't it?
I mean, a Communist pays bounties for dead Americans, and the guy YOU
idolize (whose #1 job is to protect Americans) admits he won't even
ASK him to stop it.

I don't think Gennady Zyuganov has the power to offer bounties on dead
Americans. He's a minor player in the Duma.

Post by FPP
"Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump said he hasn't discussed US
intelligence that alleged Russia offered bounties to Taliban fighters
to kill US troops in Afghanistan with Russian President Vladimir Putin
in a recent telephone call.
"I have never discussed it with Putin. I would, I have no problem with
it," Trump said in a clip of the interview"

So now you're alleging that Putin is head of the Communist Party? Your
assertion seems to be at odds with the facts - just like pretty much ALL
of your assertions in every post.

Post by FPP
Who's the commie, now Rhino? Who's letting the commies kill Americans
in this scenario, Rhino?
Need any help figuring it out, you just let me know. Buh-bye!

There is only ONE leader in Russia, and everybody knows his name. The
rest are all puppets, and you know it.
--
History will show when Tyranny came to the streets of America, the 3%,
Militiamen and Gun Nuts, who like to dress up as GI Joe in tactical
gear, were nowhere to be seen.
But a bunch of Moms dressed in yellow, wearing bicycle helmets, stood
tall. - Rob Chappell

"Leaders who have hidden in a bunker and gassed their own citizens
include Saddam Hussein, Adolf Hitler and Donald [Bunker Bitch] Trump." -
Ben Wexler
REAL PRESIDENTS LEAD. REALITY TV PRESIDENTS DON'T.

Trump: "No, I don't take responsibility at all." - 3/13/20

FPP

2020-08-04 21:38:53 UTC