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Food for thought
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Tony
2019-12-28 18:58:48 UTC
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https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/118491108/turn-down-the-hysterics-on-turnardern-or-risk-alienating-many-on-the-left
Hypocrisy, alive and well. Time for a real government instead of a deliberately
generated personality cult.
John Bowes
2019-12-29 00:08:26 UTC
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Post by Tony
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/118491108/turn-down-the-hysterics-on-turnardern-or-risk-alienating-many-on-the-left
Hypocrisy, alive and well. Time for a real government instead of a deliberately
generated personality cult.
Pity Rich is on a diet :)
JohnO
2019-12-29 03:56:59 UTC
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Diet? More like famine and extreme malnutrition!
Rich80105
2019-12-29 05:50:04 UTC
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On Sat, 28 Dec 2019 12:58:48 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/118491108/turn-down-the-hysterics-on-turnardern-or-risk-alienating-many-on-the-left
Hypocrisy, alive and well.
I agree Tony. Notice you not even the author of that shallow article
was able to identify any "left" person who has been part of "the
characteristically hysterical response of the increasingly militant
and intolerant section of the Left who are determined to attribute the
most horrendous of social crimes to anyone who holds opinions contrary
to theirs".

The reality is that the so-called "protest"was largely ignored for
quite some time, despite being publicised and encouraged by the Right;
the identity of the perpetrator was disclosed by the media itself, and
the whole project bears all the marks of a social media project by the
"communications"specialists in Simon Bridges' office. The hypocrisy
of the Right is clearly evident. Were you paid for your support for
:dirty tricks", Tony?
Post by Tony
Time for a real government instead of a deliberately
generated personality cult.
Teh cult of a single person is more a characteristic of the National
Party, Tony. With them all good news goes through "The Leader"- bad
news is announced by someone else. The current coalition government
has a more balanced strategy , regularly featuring the three party
leaders as well as Ministers, demonstrating that they work as a team,
rather than an enforced cult of one person. It did work for National
under John Key to a certain extent, but it hasn't worked too well
since - but then we do now have a real government. . . .
Tony
2019-12-29 06:25:22 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
On Sat, 28 Dec 2019 12:58:48 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/118491108/turn-down-the-hysterics-on-turnardern-or-risk-alienating-many-on-the-left
Hypocrisy, alive and well.
I agree Tony. Notice you not even the author of that shallow article
was able to identify any "left" person who has been part of "the
characteristically hysterical response of the increasingly militant
and intolerant section of the Left who are determined to attribute the
most horrendous of social crimes to anyone who holds opinions contrary
to theirs".
The reality is that the so-called "protest"was largely ignored for
quite some time, despite being publicised and encouraged by the Right;
the identity of the perpetrator was disclosed by the media itself, and
the whole project bears all the marks of a social media project by the
"communications"specialists in Simon Bridges' office. The hypocrisy
of the Right is clearly evident. Were you paid for your support for
:dirty tricks", Tony?
Post by Tony
Time for a real government instead of a deliberately
generated personality cult.
Teh cult of a single person is more a characteristic of the National
Party, Tony. With them all good news goes through "The Leader"- bad
news is announced by someone else. The current coalition government
has a more balanced strategy , regularly featuring the three party
leaders as well as Ministers, demonstrating that they work as a team,
rather than an enforced cult of one person. It did work for National
under John Key to a certain extent, but it hasn't worked too well
since - but then we do now have a real government. . . .
Spin away Richj.
The truth is clear and as stated. This has nothing to do with National and you
know it.
Rich80105
2019-12-29 10:10:41 UTC
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On Sun, 29 Dec 2019 00:25:22 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Sat, 28 Dec 2019 12:58:48 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/118491108/turn-down-the-hysterics-on-turnardern-or-risk-alienating-many-on-the-left
Hypocrisy, alive and well.
I agree Tony. Notice you not even the author of that shallow article
was able to identify any "left" person who has been part of "the
characteristically hysterical response of the increasingly militant
and intolerant section of the Left who are determined to attribute the
most horrendous of social crimes to anyone who holds opinions contrary
to theirs".
The reality is that the so-called "protest"was largely ignored for
quite some time, despite being publicised and encouraged by the Right;
the identity of the perpetrator was disclosed by the media itself, and
the whole project bears all the marks of a social media project by the
"communications"specialists in Simon Bridges' office. The hypocrisy
of the Right is clearly evident. Were you paid for your support for
:dirty tricks", Tony?
Post by Tony
Time for a real government instead of a deliberately
generated personality cult.
Teh cult of a single person is more a characteristic of the National
Party, Tony. With them all good news goes through "The Leader"- bad
news is announced by someone else. The current coalition government
has a more balanced strategy , regularly featuring the three party
leaders as well as Ministers, demonstrating that they work as a team,
rather than an enforced cult of one person. It did work for National
under John Key to a certain extent, but it hasn't worked too well
since - but then we do now have a real government. . . .
Spin away Richj.
The truth is clear and as stated. This has nothing to do with National and you
know it.
You wil be delighted to know that this story has the one quality most
desired by the social media experts - there is no proof that would
satisfy a court either way as to whether it is all yet another
''induced media storm'' promoted by National, or whether there really
unknown and as yet unidentified left people that are purported to have
got all upset about the TurnArdern campaign . . .

So you have provided no evidence that your assertions are true, and
neither have I. Agreed, Tony?
Tony
2019-12-29 18:57:02 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
On Sun, 29 Dec 2019 00:25:22 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Sat, 28 Dec 2019 12:58:48 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/118491108/turn-down-the-hysterics-on-turnardern-or-risk-alienating-many-on-the-left
Hypocrisy, alive and well.
I agree Tony. Notice you not even the author of that shallow article
was able to identify any "left" person who has been part of "the
characteristically hysterical response of the increasingly militant
and intolerant section of the Left who are determined to attribute the
most horrendous of social crimes to anyone who holds opinions contrary
to theirs".
The reality is that the so-called "protest"was largely ignored for
quite some time, despite being publicised and encouraged by the Right;
the identity of the perpetrator was disclosed by the media itself, and
the whole project bears all the marks of a social media project by the
"communications"specialists in Simon Bridges' office. The hypocrisy
of the Right is clearly evident. Were you paid for your support for
:dirty tricks", Tony?
Post by Tony
Time for a real government instead of a deliberately
generated personality cult.
Teh cult of a single person is more a characteristic of the National
Party, Tony. With them all good news goes through "The Leader"- bad
news is announced by someone else. The current coalition government
has a more balanced strategy , regularly featuring the three party
leaders as well as Ministers, demonstrating that they work as a team,
rather than an enforced cult of one person. It did work for National
under John Key to a certain extent, but it hasn't worked too well
since - but then we do now have a real government. . . .
Spin away Richj.
The truth is clear and as stated. This has nothing to do with National and you
know it.
You wil be delighted to know that this story has the one quality most
desired by the social media experts - there is no proof that would
satisfy a court either way as to whether it is all yet another
''induced media storm'' promoted by National, or whether there really
unknown and as yet unidentified left people that are purported to have
got all upset about the TurnArdern campaign . . .
So you have provided no evidence that your assertions are true, and
neither have I. Agreed, Tony?
Nonsense.
All I have done is posted an article which gives "food for thought".
Take it or leave it.
You could always try to to debunk it instead of being childish.
John Bowes
2019-12-29 20:29:02 UTC
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Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Sun, 29 Dec 2019 00:25:22 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Sat, 28 Dec 2019 12:58:48 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/118491108/turn-down-the-hysterics-on-turnardern-or-risk-alienating-many-on-the-left
Hypocrisy, alive and well.
I agree Tony. Notice you not even the author of that shallow article
was able to identify any "left" person who has been part of "the
characteristically hysterical response of the increasingly militant
and intolerant section of the Left who are determined to attribute the
most horrendous of social crimes to anyone who holds opinions contrary
to theirs".
The reality is that the so-called "protest"was largely ignored for
quite some time, despite being publicised and encouraged by the Right;
the identity of the perpetrator was disclosed by the media itself, and
the whole project bears all the marks of a social media project by the
"communications"specialists in Simon Bridges' office. The hypocrisy
of the Right is clearly evident. Were you paid for your support for
:dirty tricks", Tony?
Post by Tony
Time for a real government instead of a deliberately
generated personality cult.
Teh cult of a single person is more a characteristic of the National
Party, Tony. With them all good news goes through "The Leader"- bad
news is announced by someone else. The current coalition government
has a more balanced strategy , regularly featuring the three party
leaders as well as Ministers, demonstrating that they work as a team,
rather than an enforced cult of one person. It did work for National
under John Key to a certain extent, but it hasn't worked too well
since - but then we do now have a real government. . . .
Spin away Richj.
The truth is clear and as stated. This has nothing to do with National and you
know it.
You wil be delighted to know that this story has the one quality most
desired by the social media experts - there is no proof that would
satisfy a court either way as to whether it is all yet another
''induced media storm'' promoted by National, or whether there really
unknown and as yet unidentified left people that are purported to have
got all upset about the TurnArdern campaign . . .
So you have provided no evidence that your assertions are true, and
neither have I. Agreed, Tony?
Nonsense.
All I have done is posted an article which gives "food for thought".
Take it or leave it.
You could always try to to debunk it instead of being childish.
Rich don't need to debunk nuffink! He's a Marxist muppet and he'll tell you they're the best in the world! :)
Gordon
2019-12-29 07:53:11 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
Teh cult of a single person is more a characteristic of the National
Party, Tony. With them all good news goes through "The Leader"- bad
news is announced by someone else. The current coalition government
has a more balanced strategy , regularly featuring the three party
leaders as well as Ministers, demonstrating that they work as a team,
rather than an enforced cult of one person. It did work for National
under John Key to a certain extent, but it hasn't worked too well
since - but then we do now have a real government. . . .
Rich if you carry on like this you will be ignored totally, even by Tony.
The worst fate to fall any politican is to be ignored.
Rich80105
2019-12-29 10:14:33 UTC
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Post by Gordon
The cult of a single person is more a characteristic of the National
Party, Tony. With them all good news goes through "The Leader"- bad
news is announced by someone else. The current coalition government
has a more balanced strategy , regularly featuring the three party
leaders as well as Ministers, demonstrating that they work as a team,
rather than an enforced cult of one person. It did work for National
under John Key to a certain extent, but it hasn't worked too well
since - but then we do now have a real government. . . .
Rich if you carry on like this you will be ignored totally, even by Tony.
The worst fate to fall any politican is to be ignored.
We don't know why the story was run on Twitter, Gordon, but it may
have been because a certain politician is being largely ignored. All
we do know is that the media identified the person propomoting the
turning books campaign, and nobody else seems to have been invovled
except a media short of stories in the silly season. If you have any
facts I am sure everyone would be pleased to learn of them . . .
John Bowes
2019-12-29 10:26:15 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
On Sat, 28 Dec 2019 12:58:48 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/118491108/turn-down-the-hysterics-on-turnardern-or-risk-alienating-many-on-the-left
Hypocrisy, alive and well.
<crap snipped>
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
Time for a real government instead of a deliberately
generated personality cult.
Teh cult of a single person is more a characteristic of the National
Party, Tony. With them all good news goes through "The Leader"- bad
news is announced by someone else. The current coalition government
has a more balanced strategy , regularly featuring the three party
leaders as well as Ministers, demonstrating that they work as a team,
rather than an enforced cult of one person. It did work for National
under John Key to a certain extent, but it hasn't worked too well
since - but then we do now have a real government. . . .
The cult of a single person is exactly what Labour did to get their pathetic second place in the last election Rich! They languished in the polls till Saint Jacinda of the Marxist lie was elevated to leader by desperate unions who could see another disastrous election result looming that would have made Clark's loss in 2008 look like a victory :)
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