The US is facing a dollar collapse by the end of 2021 and an over 50% chance of a double-dip recession, economist Stephen Roach says

[Nadegda]

https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/us-dollar-crash-high-chance-double-dip-recession-roach-2020-9

----------
He said on Wednesday that he expected the collapse to happen by the end
of 2021, but he did not say by how much.
----------

Of course, the article vastly understates the severity of the coming crash.
When the dust settles, this guy will seem to have been a starry-eyed
optimist.

[%]

Post by Nadegda
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/us-dollar-crash-high-chance-double-dip-recession-roach-2020-9
----------
He said on Wednesday that he expected the collapse to happen by the end
of 2021, but he did not say by how much.
----------
Of course, the article vastly understates the severity of the coming crash.
When the dust settles, this guy will seem to have been a starry-eyed
optimist.

hey snipe , here we go

[Sn!pe]

Post by %

<https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/us-dollar-crash-high-chance-double-dip-recession-roach-2020-9>
------------------------------
He said on Wednesday that he expected the collapse to happen by the end
of 2021, but he did not say by how much.
------------------------------
Of course, the article vastly understates the severity of the coming crash.
When the dust settles, this guy will seem to have been a starry-eyed
optimist.

hey snipe , here we go

Nah, Paulie's much too fly to bite on this.

[%]

Post by Sn!pe

Post by %

<https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/us-dollar-crash-high-chance-double-dip-recession-roach-2020-9>
------------------------------
He said on Wednesday that he expected the collapse to happen by the end
of 2021, but he did not say by how much.
------------------------------
Of course, the article vastly understates the severity of the coming crash.
When the dust settles, this guy will seem to have been a starry-eyed
optimist.

hey snipe , here we go

Nah, Paulie's much too fly to bite on this.

oh he will just wait

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On Sat, 28 Aug 2021 20:26:30 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say

Post by Nadegda
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/us-dollar-crash-high-chance-double-dip-recession-roach-2020-9
----------
He said on Wednesday that he expected the collapse to happen by the end
of 2021, but he did not say by how much.
----------
Of course, the article vastly understates the severity of the coming crash.
When the dust settles, this guy will seem to have been a starry-eyed
optimist.

Guess what? The entire world's fiat economies are all going to crash.
You act as if this is the first time you've heard about it. Where are you
storing YOUR actual wealth... in a bank?
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Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

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On Sat, 28 Aug 2021 20:26:30 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say

Post by Nadegda
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/us-dollar-crash-high-chance-double-dip-recession-roach-2020-9
----------
He said on Wednesday that he expected the collapse to happen by the end
of 2021, but he did not say by how much.
----------
Of course, the article vastly understates the severity of the coming crash.
When the dust settles, this guy will seem to have been a starry-eyed
optimist.

Guess what? The entire world's fiat economies are all going to crash.
You act as if this is the first time you've heard about it. Where are you
storing YOUR actual wealth... in a bank?

Land. It's the one thing they're not making any more of. Stocks may rise and
fall, utilities and transportation systems may collapse. People are no damn
good, but they will always need land and they'll pay through the nose to
get it.

[Skeeter]

On Sat, 28 Aug 2021 23:06:18 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda

Post by Nadegda
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

Post by Checkmate
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On Sat, 28 Aug 2021 20:26:30 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say

Post by Nadegda
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/us-dollar-crash-high-chance-double-dip-recession-roach-2020-9
----------
He said on Wednesday that he expected the collapse to happen by the end
of 2021, but he did not say by how much.
----------
Of course, the article vastly understates the severity of the coming crash.
When the dust settles, this guy will seem to have been a starry-eyed
optimist.

Guess what? The entire world's fiat economies are all going to crash.
You act as if this is the first time you've heard about it. Where are you
storing YOUR actual wealth... in a bank?

Land. It's the one thing they're not making any more of. Stocks may rise and
fall, utilities and transportation systems may collapse. People are no damn
good, but they will always need land and they'll pay through the nose to
get it.

Translation: I have no money.

[Scout]

Post by Skeeter
On Sat, 28 Aug 2021 23:06:18 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda

Post by Nadegda
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

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On Sat, 28 Aug 2021 20:26:30 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say

Post by Nadegda
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/us-dollar-crash-high-chance-double-dip-recession-roach-2020-9
----------
He said on Wednesday that he expected the collapse to happen by the end
of 2021, but he did not say by how much.
----------
Of course, the article vastly understates the severity of the coming crash.
When the dust settles, this guy will seem to have been a starry-eyed
optimist.

Guess what? The entire world's fiat economies are all going to crash.
You act as if this is the first time you've heard about it. Where are you
storing YOUR actual wealth... in a bank?

Land. It's the one thing they're not making any more of. Stocks may rise and
fall, utilities and transportation systems may collapse. People are no damn
good, but they will always need land and they'll pay through the nose to
get it.

Translation: I have no money.

Actually in the face of hyperinflation buying real property on credit can be
a very smart investment.

In Germany just before it's hyperinflation a man bought a large farm with
the standard massive loan. A few months later he sold one cow off the farm
and paid the entire outstanding loan against the farm. So you can hide your
wealth in real assets or maybe make a fantastic windfall if you do so on
credit. Of course, if your timing is off the later could be riskier but most
real estate loans are 20-30 years in length so you've got a pretty big
window to work with. So if you're thinking to buy... so it might be time to
risk buying out a landlord who's looking at foreclosure by assuming the
outstanding loan.

[Les Nessman]

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Pissbum Tony Eaks AKA Skeeter AKA Lamey says...

Post by Skeeter
I have no money.

You and Howdy Doody Bev have SSI and food stamps
to fall back on, pissbum.

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On Sat, 28 Aug 2021 23:06:18 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say

Post by Nadegda
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

Post by Checkmate
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On Sat, 28 Aug 2021 20:26:30 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say

Post by Nadegda
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/us-dollar-crash-high-chance-double-dip-recession-roach-2020-9
----------
He said on Wednesday that he expected the collapse to happen by the end
of 2021, but he did not say by how much.
----------
Of course, the article vastly understates the severity of the coming crash.
When the dust settles, this guy will seem to have been a starry-eyed
optimist.

Guess what? The entire world's fiat economies are all going to crash.
You act as if this is the first time you've heard about it. Where are you
storing YOUR actual wealth... in a bank?

Land. It's the one thing they're not making any more of. Stocks may rise and
fall, utilities and transportation systems may collapse. People are no damn
good, but they will always need land and they'll pay through the nose to
get it.

I agree, but with a few caveats. There are thousands of landlords who
haven't been able to collect a dime of rent for over a year because the
Government decreed that they had to give up their rights as owners of
private property to solve a problem they didn't create. That was supposed
to be a temporary act of desperation that the liberal Socialists kept
extending to appeal to the "something for nothing" crowd, until the debt
grew to proportions that no tenant could ever repay. Especially those who
used their rent money to buy boats and other toys. Then Obiden tried to
extend the rent "moratorium" yet again, remarking in the same breath that
it was "probably illegal," as confirmed by the Supreme Court.

Then there's the issue of property taxes, when governments at every level
are broke, and property owners are sitting ducks... and eventually the
very Socialist notion that maybe none of us should actually OWN property
at all, but I'll likely not be around to worry about that possibility...
although my kids might.

What about liquidity... do you trust bitcoin or precious metals? I have
the assets to buy more property, but that's for later, when "the blood is
running in the streets". I'll take a huge hit on the value of my own
house then, but at least it's paid for, and I have to live somewhere.
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Post by Nadegda
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

Post by Checkmate
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On Sat, 28 Aug 2021 20:26:30 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say

Post by Nadegda
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/us-dollar-crash-high-chance-double-dip-recession-roach-2020-9
----------
He said on Wednesday that he expected the collapse to happen by the end
of 2021, but he did not say by how much.
----------
Of course, the article vastly understates the severity of the coming crash.
When the dust settles, this guy will seem to have been a starry-eyed
optimist.

Guess what? The entire world's fiat economies are all going to crash.
You act as if this is the first time you've heard about it. Where are you
storing YOUR actual wealth... in a bank?

Land. It's the one thing they're not making any more of. Stocks may rise and
fall, utilities and transportation systems may collapse. People are no damn
good, but they will always need land and they'll pay through the nose to
get it.

I agree, but with a few caveats. There are thousands of landlords who
haven't been able to collect a dime of rent for over a year because the
Government decreed that they had to give up their rights as owners of
private property to solve a problem they didn't create. That was supposed
to be a temporary act of desperation that the liberal Socialists kept
extending to appeal to the "something for nothing" crowd, until the debt
grew to proportions that no tenant could ever repay. Especially those who
used their rent money to buy boats and other toys. Then Obiden tried to
extend the rent "moratorium" yet again, remarking in the same breath that
it was "probably illegal," as confirmed by the Supreme Court.
Then there's the issue of property taxes, when governments at every level
are broke, and property owners are sitting ducks... and eventually the
very Socialist notion that maybe none of us should actually OWN property
at all, but I'll likely not be around to worry about that possibility...
although my kids might.
What about liquidity... do you trust bitcoin or precious metals? I have
the assets to buy more property, but that's for later, when "the blood is
running in the streets". I'll take a huge hit on the value of my own
house then, but at least it's paid for, and I have to live somewhere.

as if

[kensi]

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On Sat, 28 Aug 2021 23:06:18 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say

Post by Nadegda
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

Post by Checkmate
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On Sat, 28 Aug 2021 20:26:30 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say

Post by Nadegda
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/us-dollar-crash-high-chance-double-dip-recession-roach-2020-9
----------
He said on Wednesday that he expected the collapse to happen by the end
of 2021, but he did not say by how much.
----------
Of course, the article vastly understates the severity of the coming crash.
When the dust settles, this guy will seem to have been a starry-eyed
optimist.

Guess what? The entire world's fiat economies are all going to crash.
You act as if this is the first time you've heard about it. Where are you
storing YOUR actual wealth... in a bank?

Land. It's the one thing they're not making any more of. Stocks may rise and
fall, utilities and transportation systems may collapse. People are no damn
good, but they will always need land and they'll pay through the nose to
get it.

I agree, but with a few caveats. There are thousands of landlords who
haven't been able to collect a dime of rent for over a year because the
Government decreed that they had to give up their rights as owners of
private property to solve a problem they didn't create. That was supposed
to be a temporary act of desperation that the liberal Socialists kept
extending to appeal to the "something for nothing" crowd, until the debt
grew to proportions that no tenant could ever repay. Especially those who
used their rent money to buy boats and other toys. Then Obiden tried to
extend the rent "moratorium" yet again, remarking in the same breath that
it was "probably illegal," as confirmed by the Supreme Court.
Then there's the issue of property taxes, when governments at every level
are broke, and property owners are sitting ducks... and eventually the
very Socialist notion that maybe none of us should actually OWN property
at all, but I'll likely not be around to worry about that possibility...
although my kids might.

Nicely frothed. The bit you're leaving out is that the alternative was to
throw half the country's population out onto the streets to freeze last
winter, while the same landlords would *still* not have gotten paid, since
the furloughed workers simply didn't have the money to pay them regardless.

Since those landlords would not be getting any of that money anyway, the
*only* thing you getting your way would have accomplished would have been
to kill tens of millions of American citizens. Which would have put you in
some very distinguished company: Stalin, Mao, Hitler ...

[max headroom]

Post by kensi

Post by Checkmate
On Sat, 28 Aug 2021 23:06:18 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say

Post by Nadegda

Post by Checkmate
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On Sat, 28 Aug 2021 20:26:30 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say

Post by Nadegda
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/us-dollar-crash-high-chance-double-dip-recession-roach-2020-9
He said on Wednesday that he expected the collapse to happen by the end
of 2021, but he did not say by how much.

Boy, if I had a dollar for every time I read that, I could have retired years
ago.

Post by kensi

Post by Checkmate

Post by Nadegda

Post by Checkmate

Post by Nadegda
Of course, the article vastly understates the severity of the coming
crash. When the dust settles, this guy will seem to have been a
starry-eyed optimist.

Guess what? The entire world's fiat economies are all going to crash.
You act as if this is the first time you've heard about it. Where are you
storing YOUR actual wealth... in a bank?

Land. It's the one thing they're not making any more of. Stocks may rise and
fall, utilities and transportation systems may collapse. People are no damn
good, but they will always need land and they'll pay through the nose to
get it.

I agree, but with a few caveats. There are thousands of landlords who
haven't been able to collect a dime of rent for over a year because the
Government decreed that they had to give up their rights as owners of
private property to solve a problem they didn't create. That was supposed
to be a temporary act of desperation that the liberal Socialists kept
extending to appeal to the "something for nothing" crowd, until the debt
grew to proportions that no tenant could ever repay. Especially those who
used their rent money to buy boats and other toys. Then Obiden tried to
extend the rent "moratorium" yet again, remarking in the same breath that
it was "probably illegal," as confirmed by the Supreme Court.
Then there's the issue of property taxes, when governments at every level
are broke, and property owners are sitting ducks... and eventually the
very Socialist notion that maybe none of us should actually OWN property
at all, but I'll likely not be around to worry about that possibility...
although my kids might.

Nicely frothed. The bit you're leaving out is that the alternative was to
throw half the country's population out onto the streets to freeze last
winter, while the same landlords would *still* not have gotten paid, since
the furloughed workers simply didn't have the money to pay them regardless.
Since those landlords would not be getting any of that money anyway,...

Maybe in your trailer park, but out here in rural America, rentals were
impossible to find and properties were being snatched up at above-asking prices,
often sight-unseen. Construction companies are having trouble finding enough
workers, resulting in backlogs. (We've been waiting two weeks for concrete for
our firing-line expansion project.)

[kensi]

Post by max headroom

Post by kensi
Since those landlords would not be getting any of that money anyway

Maybe in your trailer park

I live in an apartment in downtown Helsinki, not a trailer park, jackass.

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Post by kensi

Post by max headroom

Post by kensi
Since those landlords would not be getting any of that money anyway

Maybe in your trailer park

I live in an apartment in downtown Helsinki, not a trailer park, jackass.

your time zone is wrong

[max headroom]

Post by kensi

Post by max headroom

Post by kensi
Since those landlords would not be getting any of that money anyway

Maybe in your trailer park

I live in an apartment in downtown Helsinki, not a trailer park, jackass.

Proof, troll?

I bet you live in a trailer park on the outskirts of Snowflake, Arizona.

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On Mon, 30 Aug 2021 02:48:58 -0000 (UTC), kensi had the audacity to say

Post by kensi
jackass

Man, that was harsh...
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On Sun, 29 Aug 2021 22:21:55 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say

Post by Nadegda
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

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On Sat, 28 Aug 2021 23:06:18 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say

Post by Nadegda
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

Post by Checkmate
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On Sat, 28 Aug 2021 20:26:30 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say

Post by Nadegda
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/us-dollar-crash-high-chance-double-dip-recession-roach-2020-9
----------
He said on Wednesday that he expected the collapse to happen by the end
of 2021, but he did not say by how much.
----------
Of course, the article vastly understates the severity of the coming crash.
When the dust settles, this guy will seem to have been a starry-eyed
optimist.

Guess what? The entire world's fiat economies are all going to crash.
You act as if this is the first time you've heard about it. Where are you
storing YOUR actual wealth... in a bank?

Land. It's the one thing they're not making any more of. Stocks may rise and
fall, utilities and transportation systems may collapse. People are no damn
good, but they will always need land and they'll pay through the nose to
get it.

I agree, but with a few caveats. There are thousands of landlords who
haven't been able to collect a dime of rent for over a year because the
Government decreed that they had to give up their rights as owners of
private property to solve a problem they didn't create. That was supposed
to be a temporary act of desperation that the liberal Socialists kept
extending to appeal to the "something for nothing" crowd, until the debt
grew to proportions that no tenant could ever repay. Especially those who
used their rent money to buy boats and other toys. Then Obiden tried to
extend the rent "moratorium" yet again, remarking in the same breath that
it was "probably illegal," as confirmed by the Supreme Court.
Then there's the issue of property taxes, when governments at every level
are broke, and property owners are sitting ducks... and eventually the
very Socialist notion that maybe none of us should actually OWN property
at all, but I'll likely not be around to worry about that possibility...
although my kids might.

Lovely rant. I give it two Chernobyls out of a possible five.

See? I can't even have a civil conversation with you, without you k00king
off like Mentos in a C0ke... ko0k.

Post by Nadegda

Post by Checkmate
What about liquidity... do you trust bitcoin

You're joking, right? I've seen twitchy toxic hypergolic rocket fuel
formulations that had less volatility. And none of it will be worth the
paper it isn't even printed on if things get bad enough that all our
technology goes dark.

Okay, you still have a few of your marbles left... more than the guy who
built your car, but he can afford to lose a few billion.

Post by Nadegda

Post by Checkmate
or precious metals?

Bulky, heavy, and invites attempts at armed robbery. I'll pass, thanks.

That leaves the burning question, what do you keep for liquidity...
dollars? This appears to be the chink in your armor. It's the chink in
most people's armor. You'd better have some kind of wampum, and
generators, fuel, photovoltaics, batteries, etc. You know the shit is
rapidly approaching the fan, but you don't sound like you've adequately
thought this out. At least that's how it looks from my bunker.

Post by Nadegda
If the legal system doesn't collapse the land I own will be a durable store
of value. If it does the important thing will be to join a community of
people who know how to a) farm and b) defend a chunk of land, and to have
a useful skill. In my case, various mechanical repair skills.

In most cases, I'd say that's me in spades, but this isn't one of those
cases. What would you have to offer such a group in return?
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Post by Checkmate
On Sun, 29 Aug 2021 22:21:55 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say

Post by Nadegda
If the legal system doesn't collapse the land I own will be a durable store
of value. If it does the important thing will be to join a community of
people who know how to a) farm and b) defend a chunk of land, and to have
a useful skill. In my case, various mechanical repair skills.

In most cases, I'd say that's me in spades, but this isn't one of those
cases. What would you have to offer such a group in return?

Still suffering from reading comprehension problems, kOokt4rd? She said
"various mechanical repair skills", kOokt4rd.

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On Mon, 30 Aug 2021 02:57:42 -0000 (UTC), kensi had the audacity to say

Post by kensi

Post by Checkmate
On Sun, 29 Aug 2021 22:21:55 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say

Post by Nadegda
If the legal system doesn't collapse the land I own will be a durable store
of value. If it does the important thing will be to join a community of
people who know how to a) farm and b) defend a chunk of land, and to have
a useful skill. In my case, various mechanical repair skills.

In most cases, I'd say that's me in spades, but this isn't one of those
cases. What would you have to offer such a group in return?

Still suffering from reading comprehension problems, kOokt4rd? She said
"various mechanical repair skills", kOokt4rd.

Sounds to me like that's what she's looking for. Programmers aren't
mechanics, and the Nadsitard has never given any indication she has any
such talents. Plus, she's (allegedly) a girl.
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On Sun, 29 Aug 2021 23:05:22 -0700, LO AND BEHOLD; The Pathetic
Anti-Muslim Wannabe Homegrown Terrorist who is too cowardly to reply to
me anymore and is cowering in his boogaloo-boi bunker Posting as "💩
<***@gmail.com>" determined that the following was of great
importance and subsequently decided to freely share it with us in
<***@usnews.blocknews.net>:

=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=Warning!AlwayswearANSIapprovedsafetygoggleswhenreadingpostsby
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=💩.
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=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=OnMon,30Aug202102:57:42-0000(UTC),kensihadtheaudacitytosay
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=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=

but mechanics frequently need the assistance of software, ko0k.

and they also have to know about sine waves.

clearly, you would be lost. good thing you'll be in your prepper cave not in the way of anyone.

"4 out of 5 pet rocks" won't comment on this poast...

On Sun, 30 May 2021 12:23:08 +0000 (UTC), LO AND BEHOLD; Red Elephant
<***@yourbusiness.com> determined that the following was of great
importance and subsequently decided to freely share it with us in
<s9003c$6mc$***@gioia.aioe.org>:

✡ That Jen creature is still gone? HAHAHAAH Love it Fucking gender queers
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"Also, it makes you look intellectually weak if you constantly spout derogatory opinions about people, but can never back any of them up with valid reasons. In alt.checkmate, someone will challenge that every time." - _The Most Ironic Thing Ever Said_ by Checkmate in <***@news.alt.net>

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"Starting with the World's Ugliest Chimp, Maxine Waters. That bitch is
hideous! It's no wonder "she always mad," to put it ebonically." - Checkmate "looking intellectually weak" (and racist AF) in <***@news.alt.net>

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"Subject: THE GREAT MASK MYTH... UNMASKED" - Checkmate the anti-masker in https://groups.google.com/g/alt.checkmate/c/ROknxOsPeEE/m/I-cujRAzBQAJ

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"Conservatives aren't looking for a war. Libtards are planning one, and it
starts with the cowardly antifa punks who dress in black, cover their
faces, wear helmets, and surround elderly citizens, poking them with
metal-tipped umbrellas. You know, like fascists." - another borken prediction from Checkmate (umbrella guy was later found to be a fascist) in <***@news.alt.net>

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"It will always be with you. Why do you think I hate those bastards as much as I do? I've been watching a lecture series on the history of the muzzies... many hour's worth, in fact, and the muzzies have been that way for thousands of years. It's in their culture. Every few hundred years, they try to invade Europe or some other region nearby, and have to be beaten back. They just need to be eliminated to whatever extent that's possible. You can't kill ideas completely, but you can set them back a few generations when necessary.

One important distinction between islam and christianity, is both religions have historically used their "beliefs" as a means to control the ignorant Unwashed Masses, only Western civilization became educated enough to take that power away from the clergy. The muzzies like their citizens to remain dumb, brainwashed, and obedient. That's why the radical ones are nearly all from The Land That Time Forgot. They're still stuck back in the fourteenth century, and suffer from the delusional notion that they're going to drag the rest of the world back there with them. As I see it, there's only one solution to that problem, and it's the same one we use to rid ourselves of rats, cockroaches, and other vermin." - Checkmate said this psycho lunatic shit in <***@news.altopia.com>

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"What you see happening in Europe now... defiant muzzies openly proclaiming that they have no desire to "assimilate" or co-exist with Europeans, and stating that their objective is to turn all of Europe into a muzzie dominated region under sharia law, is the harbinger of what they have planned for the US. To what extent they'll be successful with that here can be debated, but should not be underestimated. I wish I could share your optimism in that regard, but I don't.

Terror attacks are only one page out of the muzzie play book. They serve more as a distraction. The real goal is occupation, and that's already well underway. They've got that frog pretty well boiled in Europe now, and they're getting bolder by the day. The longer the Europeans wait to do something about it, the harder it's going to be TO do anything about it. It may already be too late IMO. This is going to get real messy in a hurry." - Checkmate crying about some bullshit about muslims in europe that's he's convinced himself is true.

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"Bitches don't get to use the Pussy Card when they initiate an
assault." - Cuckmate the Wonder Klown in <***@news.alt.net>

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"Thanks to muzzies and their apologist-enablers like puppy whistle, this seems to be the new norm in the world. It's spreading like a cancer, and it's time we admit we're at war with pure evil. We need to put an end to this muzzie plague, or life on Earth is going to become pure hell everywhere. We need to get these people out of every civilized country, and there's only one way to do it. IOW, we have to become like them, with an emphasis on expediency over cruelty." - Herr Fuhrer Checkmate (of alt.checkmate)

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"Pussy Willow has just proven that Trump's crackdown on previously unenforced immigration policies is working. We'll deal with the domestic terrorists as needed, but we don't need to be letting the muzzie terrorists get a foothold in our country too. One need only look at what they're doing in Europe right now to know we're doing the right thing by keeping them out, which is our right and our duty. - Checkmate (#1 pussy willow fan)

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"You just made puppy whistle's sig line longer." - Janithor

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STOP! (janithor time.):

i hope his sails weren't torn asunder with words on a screen, or
somesuch, but also i hope that his pain is not as bad as the murderguy
who got hit with a skateboard. - anynonymous

-

"If I have a complaint about the (Southern Poverty) Law Center's description (of the alt-right movement), it is the phrase "heavy use of social media," which implies the alt-right is a real-world movement which uses a lot of social media. This is backwards: it is an online movement which occasionally appears in the real world. Where it gets punched." - Jason Rhode

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"I think we should destroy every last fucking mosque in America." - "Checkmate, DoW #1" <***@The.Edge> proves for us that white males are violent in Message-ID: <***@news.altopia.com>

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"I wasn't even aware that I HAD a religion. I'm pretty-much against all of The Big Three, but the muzzies are at the top of the list." - Checkmate

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"Such "places of worship" are terrorist breeding grounds, as has been proven on many occasions. Please refrain from morphing out of my
killfile." - Checkmate on his belief that all Mosques are where terrorists are.

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"Is Pussy Willow saying you're a bigger nazi puke than me? You didn't even suggest that maybe we ought to burn down all the mosques. This just isn't fair!" - Checkmate admits to suggesting burning down mosques.

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"The world IS shit, and getting closer to hitting the fan every day. We'll be at war before the end of this decade, and nearly everybody
already knows it." - Checkmate teh war hawk, in 2017

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KOTM, November 2006
Bob Allisat Memorial Hook, Line & Sinker, November 2006
Special Ops Cody Memorial Purple Heart, November 2006
Special Ops Cody Memorial Purple Heart, September 2007
Tony Sidaway Memorial "Drama Queen" Award, November 2006
Busted Urinal Award, April 2007
Order of the Holey Sockpuppet, September 2007
Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog Whistle, September 2006
Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog Whistle, April 2008
Tinfoil Sombrero, February 2007
AUK Mascot, September 2007
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[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

Warning! Always make ANSI approved safety giggles when reading drivel by
Checkmate.
On Mon, 30 Aug 2021 02:57:42 -0000 (UTC), kensi had the audacity to say

Post by kensi

Post by Checkmate
On Sun, 29 Aug 2021 22:21:55 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say

Post by Nadegda
If the legal system doesn't collapse the land I own will be a durable store
of value. If it does the important thing will be to join a community of
people who know how to a) farm and b) defend a chunk of land, and to have
a useful skill. In my case, various mechanical repair skills.

In most cases, I'd say that's me in spades, but this isn't one of those
cases. What would you have to offer such a group in return?

Still suffering from reading comprehension problems, kOokt4rd? She said
"various mechanical repair skills", kOokt4rd.

Sounds to me like that's what she's looking for. Programmers aren't
mechanics,

Sez?

and the Nadsitard has never given any indication she has any such
talents.
Plus, she's (allegedly) a girl.

What does *that* have to do with anything, kook?

[Skeeter]

On Mon, 30 Aug 2021 02:57:42 -0000 (UTC), kensi

Post by kensi

Post by Checkmate
On Sun, 29 Aug 2021 22:21:55 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say

Post by Nadegda
If the legal system doesn't collapse the land I own will be a durable store
of value. If it does the important thing will be to join a community of
people who know how to a) farm and b) defend a chunk of land, and to have
a useful skill. In my case, various mechanical repair skills.

In most cases, I'd say that's me in spades, but this isn't one of those
cases. What would you have to offer such a group in return?

Still suffering from reading comprehension problems, kOokt4rd? She said
"various mechanical repair skills", kOokt4rd.

You mean all the thing they have taken out of schools so they could
dumb down the people?

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On Mon, 30 Aug 2021 07:41:41 -0600, LO AND BEHOLD; Skeeter Skeeter Fake
News Bleater - Exploded Everyone's Irony Meters "Skeeter
<***@invalid.invalid>" determined that the following was of great
importance and subsequently decided to freely share it with us in
<***@4ax.com>:

=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=OnMon,30Aug202102:57:42-0000(UTC),kensi
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=<***@gmail.invalid>wrote:
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=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?==?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=OnSun,29Aug202116:37:21-0700,💩wrote:
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=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=

lots of public schools around here have entire "maker spaces". (3d printers, CAD, etc.)

perhaps schools in your area just suck?

i started learning ohm's law and circuit theory when i bought two 'mini-engineer's notebooks' at radio shack, somewhere's around 8th or 9th grade.

https://worldradiohistory.com/Archive-Company-Publications/Radio-Shack/Radio_Shack_Mini_Notebook.htm

i don't recall reading in the constitution that you get to complain about poor execution of public education while simultaneously supporting the "grand cause" of appropriating less and less tax money for education by voting for republicans who send their spawn to private schools and couldn't really care less if your kid gets shot by a berserk whiteboi in yet another gun nut rampage.

"√? out of 0 pet rocks" can't DIVISION BY ZERO...

[anon]

Post by kensi

Post by Checkmate
On Sun, 29 Aug 2021 22:21:55 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to

Post by Nadegda
If the legal system doesn't collapse the land I own will be a
durable store of value. If it does the important thing will be to
join a community of people who know how to a) farm and b) defend a
chunk of land, and to have a useful skill. In my case, various
mechanical repair skills.

In most cases, I'd say that's me in spades, but this isn't one of
those cases. What would you have to offer such a group in return?

Still suffering from reading comprehension problems, kOokt4rd? She
said "various mechanical repair skills", kOokt4rd.

Yes you're a kooktard


[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

Warning! Always make ANSI approved safety giggles when reading drivel by
Checkmate.
On Sun, 29 Aug 2021 22:21:55 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say

Post by Nadegda
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

Post by Checkmate
Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
Checkmate.
On Sat, 28 Aug 2021 23:06:18 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say

Post by Nadegda
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

Post by Checkmate
Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
Checkmate.
On Sat, 28 Aug 2021 20:26:30 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say

Post by Nadegda
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/us-dollar-crash-high-chance-double-dip-recession-roach-2020-9
----------
He said on Wednesday that he expected the collapse to happen by the end
of 2021, but he did not say by how much.
----------
Of course, the article vastly understates the severity of the coming crash.
When the dust settles, this guy will seem to have been a starry-eyed
optimist.

Guess what? The entire world's fiat economies are all going to crash.
You act as if this is the first time you've heard about it. Where are you
storing YOUR actual wealth... in a bank?

Land. It's the one thing they're not making any more of. Stocks may rise and
fall, utilities and transportation systems may collapse. People are no damn
good, but they will always need land and they'll pay through the nose to
get it.

I agree, but with a few caveats. There are thousands of landlords who
haven't been able to collect a dime of rent for over a year because the
Government decreed that they had to give up their rights as owners of
private property to solve a problem they didn't create. That was supposed
to be a temporary act of desperation that the liberal Socialists kept
extending to appeal to the "something for nothing" crowd, until the debt
grew to proportions that no tenant could ever repay. Especially those who
used their rent money to buy boats and other toys. Then Obiden tried to
extend the rent "moratorium" yet again, remarking in the same breath that
it was "probably illegal," as confirmed by the Supreme Court.
Then there's the issue of property taxes, when governments at every level
are broke, and property owners are sitting ducks... and eventually the
very Socialist notion that maybe none of us should actually OWN property
at all, but I'll likely not be around to worry about that possibility...
although my kids might.

Lovely rant. I give it two Chernobyls out of a possible five.

Post by Checkmate
What about liquidity... do you trust bitcoin

You're joking, right? I've seen twitchy toxic hypergolic rocket fuel
formulations that had less volatility. And none of it will be worth the
paper it isn't even printed on if things get bad enough that all our
technology goes dark.

Post by Checkmate
or precious metals?

Bulky, heavy, and invites attempts at armed robbery. I'll pass, thanks.

That leaves the burning question, what do you keep for liquidity...
dollars?

Of course. If deflation strikes, they'll go farther and farther.
Hyperinflation? My land is immune to that. Either way I've still got
something.

This appears to be the chink in your armor. It's the chink in
most people's armor. You'd better have some kind of wampum, and
generators, fuel, photovoltaics, batteries, etc. You know the shit is
rapidly approaching the fan, but you don't sound like you've adequately
thought this out. At least that's how it looks from my bunker.

I'm not the one with the loony notion that a bunker will save me.

Let's consider four progressively worse situations.

1: A repeat of the Great Depression, or the hyperinflation in 1920s
Germany, or some similar economic crisis.

In that case, either my money or my land will retain its value. When
the dust settles I can put that to use. Your bunker will prove
unimportant.

2: There's a medium-term breakdown of basic services, like New Orleans
after Katrina hit.

Generator, some food and bottled water stashed, looters will mainly be
in the city and not out here. You'll actually hide in it this time, but
your bunker will still prove unimportant as nobody will try to breach
it.

3: State collapse, and/or authoritarian takeover

That's when the yacht and the bug-out bag will prove useful, along with
some assets I have physically on me (no inconveniently-timed frozen
accounts will stop me taking them with me) and of course marketable
skills. The yacht has a portion of the fuel, food, and water on it at
any given time, so I just need to bring some miscellaneous valuables,
paper money, and external HDDs when the signal goes up. I can be on
open water in fifteen minutes and outside US territorial waters in under
an hour. If the roads are already impassable to the Tesla, or full of
goon squad checkpoints, I have an off-road capable secondary vehicle
that can probably outrun anything *they* might have, if they even notice
me.

This is where you hide in your bunker and it *does* come under attack.
Sometime between my exiting the sound into the Pacific proper and my
reaching international waters they'll find your air intake and exploit
that to flush you out, or maybe just to kill you on the spot.

4: End of civilization

In that event, most assets are worthless or even worse-than-useless
(magnet for trouble, e.g.); however, skills useful in repairing moderate-
tech things will be an "in" for being welcomed into a community, and
land, especially arable land, will have its use-value.

You'll hide in your bunker, and it may come under attack by a roving
warband, but they might not be smart or educated enough to look for the
air intakes. So, you might be safe for a few months or years, until your
supplies run out. Then you'll have to emerge to forage, with a bad back
and no more Oxys -- sounds like fun. In that case, you'll either live out
the rest of your life as a pain-wracked mountain-man hermit and die alone,
or you'll discover the hard way that no community of post-apocalyptic
village farmers wants an embittered old misanthrope with a bad back that
limits his ability to perform useful labor.

SPNAK!

<snicker>

Post by Nadegda
If the legal system doesn't collapse the land I own will be a durable store
of value. If it does the important thing will be to join a community of
people who know how to a) farm and b) defend a chunk of land, and to have
a useful skill. In my case, various mechanical repair skills.

In most cases, I'd say that's me in spades, but this isn't one of those
cases. What would you have to offer such a group in return?

Mechanical repair skills. Still suffering from reading comprehension
problems, kook?

[%]

Post by Nadegda
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

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Checkmate.
On Sun, 29 Aug 2021 22:21:55 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say

Post by Nadegda
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

Post by Checkmate
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On Sat, 28 Aug 2021 23:06:18 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say

Post by Nadegda
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

Post by Checkmate
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On Sat, 28 Aug 2021 20:26:30 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say

Post by Nadegda
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/us-dollar-crash-high-chance-double-dip-recession-roach-2020-9
----------
He said on Wednesday that he expected the collapse to happen by the end
of 2021, but he did not say by how much.
----------
Of course, the article vastly understates the severity of the coming crash.
When the dust settles, this guy will seem to have been a starry-eyed
optimist.

Guess what? The entire world's fiat economies are all going to crash.
You act as if this is the first time you've heard about it. Where are you
storing YOUR actual wealth... in a bank?

Land. It's the one thing they're not making any more of. Stocks may rise and
fall, utilities and transportation systems may collapse. People are no damn
good, but they will always need land and they'll pay through the nose to
get it.

I agree, but with a few caveats. There are thousands of landlords who
haven't been able to collect a dime of rent for over a year because the
Government decreed that they had to give up their rights as owners of
private property to solve a problem they didn't create. That was supposed
to be a temporary act of desperation that the liberal Socialists kept
extending to appeal to the "something for nothing" crowd, until the debt
grew to proportions that no tenant could ever repay. Especially those who
used their rent money to buy boats and other toys. Then Obiden tried to
extend the rent "moratorium" yet again, remarking in the same breath that
it was "probably illegal," as confirmed by the Supreme Court.
Then there's the issue of property taxes, when governments at every level
are broke, and property owners are sitting ducks... and eventually the
very Socialist notion that maybe none of us should actually OWN property
at all, but I'll likely not be around to worry about that possibility...
although my kids might.

Lovely rant. I give it two Chernobyls out of a possible five.

Post by Checkmate
What about liquidity... do you trust bitcoin

You're joking, right? I've seen twitchy toxic hypergolic rocket fuel
formulations that had less volatility. And none of it will be worth the
paper it isn't even printed on if things get bad enough that all our
technology goes dark.

Post by Checkmate
or precious metals?

Bulky, heavy, and invites attempts at armed robbery. I'll pass, thanks.

That leaves the burning question, what do you keep for liquidity...
dollars?

Of course. If deflation strikes, they'll go farther and farther.
Hyperinflation? My land is immune to that. Either way I've still got
something.

This appears to be the chink in your armor. It's the chink in
most people's armor. You'd better have some kind of wampum, and
generators, fuel, photovoltaics, batteries, etc. You know the shit is
rapidly approaching the fan, but you don't sound like you've adequately
thought this out. At least that's how it looks from my bunker.

I'm not the one with the loony notion that a bunker will save me.
Let's consider four progressively worse situations.
1: A repeat of the Great Depression, or the hyperinflation in 1920s
Germany, or some similar economic crisis.
In that case, either my money or my land will retain its value. When
the dust settles I can put that to use. Your bunker will prove
unimportant.
2: There's a medium-term breakdown of basic services, like New Orleans
after Katrina hit.
Generator, some food and bottled water stashed, looters will mainly be
in the city and not out here. You'll actually hide in it this time, but
your bunker will still prove unimportant as nobody will try to breach
it.
3: State collapse, and/or authoritarian takeover
That's when the yacht and the bug-out bag will prove useful, along with
some assets I have physically on me (no inconveniently-timed frozen
accounts will stop me taking them with me) and of course marketable
skills. The yacht has a portion of the fuel, food, and water on it at
any given time, so I just need to bring some miscellaneous valuables,
paper money, and external HDDs when the signal goes up. I can be on
open water in fifteen minutes and outside US territorial waters in under
an hour. If the roads are already impassable to the Tesla, or full of
goon squad checkpoints, I have an off-road capable secondary vehicle
that can probably outrun anything *they* might have, if they even notice
me.
This is where you hide in your bunker and it *does* come under attack.
Sometime between my exiting the sound into the Pacific proper and my
reaching international waters they'll find your air intake and exploit
that to flush you out, or maybe just to kill you on the spot.
4: End of civilization
In that event, most assets are worthless or even worse-than-useless
(magnet for trouble, e.g.); however, skills useful in repairing moderate-
tech things will be an "in" for being welcomed into a community, and
land, especially arable land, will have its use-value.
You'll hide in your bunker, and it may come under attack by a roving
warband, but they might not be smart or educated enough to look for the
air intakes. So, you might be safe for a few months or years, until your
supplies run out. Then you'll have to emerge to forage, with a bad back
and no more Oxys -- sounds like fun. In that case, you'll either live out
the rest of your life as a pain-wracked mountain-man hermit and die alone,
or you'll discover the hard way that no community of post-apocalyptic
village farmers wants an embittered old misanthrope with a bad back that
limits his ability to perform useful labor.
SPNAK!
<snicker>

Post by Nadegda
If the legal system doesn't collapse the land I own will be a durable store
of value. If it does the important thing will be to join a community of
people who know how to a) farm and b) defend a chunk of land, and to have
a useful skill. In my case, various mechanical repair skills.

In most cases, I'd say that's me in spades, but this isn't one of those
cases. What would you have to offer such a group in return?

Mechanical repair skills. Still suffering from reading comprehension
problems, kook?

yea , you get a dead planet cause the sun blew up one day

[%]

Post by Checkmate
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Checkmate.
On Tue, 31 Aug 2021 02:11:00 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say

Post by Nadegda
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

Warning! Always make ANSI approved safety giggles when reading drivel by
Checkmate.
On Sun, 29 Aug 2021 22:21:55 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say

Post by Nadegda
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

Post by Checkmate
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Checkmate.
On Sat, 28 Aug 2021 23:06:18 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say

Post by Nadegda
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

Post by Checkmate
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Checkmate.
On Sat, 28 Aug 2021 20:26:30 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say

Post by Nadegda
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/us-dollar-crash-high-chance-double-dip-recession-roach-2020-9
----------
He said on Wednesday that he expected the collapse to happen by the end
of 2021, but he did not say by how much.
----------
Of course, the article vastly understates the severity of the coming crash.
When the dust settles, this guy will seem to have been a starry-eyed
optimist.

Guess what? The entire world's fiat economies are all going to crash.
You act as if this is the first time you've heard about it. Where are you
storing YOUR actual wealth... in a bank?

Land. It's the one thing they're not making any more of. Stocks may rise and
fall, utilities and transportation systems may collapse. People are no damn
good, but they will always need land and they'll pay through the nose to
get it.

I agree, but with a few caveats. There are thousands of landlords who
haven't been able to collect a dime of rent for over a year because the
Government decreed that they had to give up their rights as owners of
private property to solve a problem they didn't create. That was supposed
to be a temporary act of desperation that the liberal Socialists kept
extending to appeal to the "something for nothing" crowd, until the debt
grew to proportions that no tenant could ever repay. Especially those who
used their rent money to buy boats and other toys. Then Obiden tried to
extend the rent "moratorium" yet again, remarking in the same breath that
it was "probably illegal," as confirmed by the Supreme Court.
Then there's the issue of property taxes, when governments at every level
are broke, and property owners are sitting ducks... and eventually the
very Socialist notion that maybe none of us should actually OWN property
at all, but I'll likely not be around to worry about that possibility...
although my kids might.

Lovely rant. I give it two Chernobyls out of a possible five.

Post by Checkmate
What about liquidity... do you trust bitcoin

You're joking, right? I've seen twitchy toxic hypergolic rocket fuel
formulations that had less volatility. And none of it will be worth the
paper it isn't even printed on if things get bad enough that all our
technology goes dark.

Post by Checkmate
or precious metals?

Bulky, heavy, and invites attempts at armed robbery. I'll pass, thanks.

That leaves the burning question, what do you keep for liquidity...
dollars?

Of course. If deflation strikes, they'll go farther and farther.
Hyperinflation? My land is immune to that. Either way I've still got
something.

I can't imagine a condition in the current scenario where deflation is
even a long shot. A real estate crash is likely for homes, but if you're
mortgage-free, it's only a paper loss as long as you don't have to or want
to sell. Small farmland is what you want, but others will want to take it
from you, so you need a good perimeter, limited access, and... bunkers you
can shoot from. I'm not a dog lover, but I'd get 2 or 3 if needed. They
hear and smell anything coming, and their pack hunting behavior is very
effective.

Post by Nadegda

This appears to be the chink in your armor. It's the chink in
most people's armor. You'd better have some kind of wampum, and
generators, fuel, photovoltaics, batteries, etc. You know the shit is
rapidly approaching the fan, but you don't sound like you've adequately
thought this out. At least that's how it looks from my bunker.

I'm not the one with the loony notion that a bunker will save me.

A bunker will save my property because it gives me a clear line of sight
to the only way in here, and any "visitors" would have to trek up a 10'
wide very steep road, where I have the extra advantage of higher
elevation, and concertina wire that I can quickly deploy across the road.

Post by Nadegda
Let's consider four progressively worse situations.
1: A repeat of the Great Depression, or the hyperinflation in 1920s
Germany, or some similar economic crisis.
In that case, either my money or my land will retain its value. When
the dust settles I can put that to use. Your bunker will prove
unimportant.

You have land, I have land with a bunker to help defend it. A depression
will have little affect on me. I don't need a job, and I won't need much
in the way of supplies, other than meds, which is a potential problem that
I don't have a solution for beyond a small reserve stockpile.

Post by Nadegda
2: There's a medium-term breakdown of basic services, like New Orleans
after Katrina hit.
Generator, some food and bottled water stashed, looters will mainly be
in the city and not out here. You'll actually hide in it this time, but
your bunker will still prove unimportant as nobody will try to breach
it.

The bunker is not likely to be necessary, unless someone is well off the
beaten path, but better to have than need and not have. If your property
could be attacked, where would you take a stand? Where could you shoot
from without being a target?

Post by Nadegda
3: State collapse, and/or authoritarian takeover
That's when the yacht and the bug-out bag will prove useful, along with
some assets I have physically on me (no inconveniently-timed frozen
accounts will stop me taking them with me) and of course marketable
skills. The yacht has a portion of the fuel, food, and water on it at
any given time, so I just need to bring some miscellaneous valuables,
paper money, and external HDDs when the signal goes up. I can be on
open water in fifteen minutes and outside US territorial waters in under
an hour. If the roads are already impassable to the Tesla, or full of
goon squad checkpoints, I have an off-road capable secondary vehicle
that can probably outrun anything *they* might have, if they even notice
me.
This is where you hide in your bunker and it *does* come under attack.
Sometime between my exiting the sound into the Pacific proper and my
reaching international waters they'll find your air intake and exploit
that to flush you out, or maybe just to kill you on the spot.

You won't last long on the open water. Where would you go as a floating
target for pirates? ARRRGH! And now you've lost your land.

Post by Nadegda
4: End of civilization
In that event, most assets are worthless or even worse-than-useless
(magnet for trouble, e.g.); however, skills useful in repairing moderate-
tech things will be an "in" for being welcomed into a community, and
land, especially arable land, will have its use-value.
You'll hide in your bunker, and it may come under attack by a roving
warband, but they might not be smart or educated enough to look for the
air intakes. So, you might be safe for a few months or years, until your
supplies run out. Then you'll have to emerge to forage, with a bad back
and no more Oxys -- sounds like fun. In that case, you'll either live out
the rest of your life as a pain-wracked mountain-man hermit and die alone,
or you'll discover the hard way that no community of post-apocalyptic
village farmers wants an embittered old misanthrope with a bad back that
limits his ability to perform useful labor.

The oxys would be a big concern, but street drugs will be available, just
a lot dicier to get. It ends at some point for everyone. At some point,
we'll all wonder if clinging to a pile of shit is worth the trouble.
There's one comfort in getting old... each day you survive is another day
you won the game of life. With my estimated expiration date probably some
10-15 years from now, I've already beat the odds. I don't know how old
you are, but it's going to be a lot harder to beat my record, and I can't
see it being much fun trying.

Post by Nadegda
SPNAK!
<snicker>

Post by Nadegda
If the legal system doesn't collapse the land I own will be a durable store
of value. If it does the important thing will be to join a community of
people who know how to a) farm and b) defend a chunk of land, and to have
a useful skill. In my case, various mechanical repair skills.

In most cases, I'd say that's me in spades, but this isn't one of those
cases. What would you have to offer such a group in return?

Mechanical repair skills. Still suffering from reading comprehension
problems, kook?

is this a poofie

[Checkmate]

Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
Checkmate.

On Tue, 31 Aug 2021 14:01:03 -0700, % had the audacity to say the

Post by %

Post by Checkmate
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Checkmate.
On Tue, 31 Aug 2021 02:11:00 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say

Post by Nadegda
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

Warning! Always make ANSI approved safety giggles when reading drivel by
Checkmate.
On Sun, 29 Aug 2021 22:21:55 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say

Post by Nadegda
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

Post by Checkmate
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Checkmate.
On Sat, 28 Aug 2021 23:06:18 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say

Post by Nadegda
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

Post by Checkmate
Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
Checkmate.
On Sat, 28 Aug 2021 20:26:30 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say

Post by Nadegda
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/us-dollar-crash-high-chance-double-dip-recession-roach-2020-9
----------
He said on Wednesday that he expected the collapse to happen by the end
of 2021, but he did not say by how much.
----------
Of course, the article vastly understates the severity of the coming crash.
When the dust settles, this guy will seem to have been a starry-eyed
optimist.

Guess what? The entire world's fiat economies are all going to crash.
You act as if this is the first time you've heard about it. Where are you
storing YOUR actual wealth... in a bank?

Land. It's the one thing they're not making any more of. Stocks may rise and
fall, utilities and transportation systems may collapse. People are no damn
good, but they will always need land and they'll pay through the nose to
get it.

I agree, but with a few caveats. There are thousands of landlords who
haven't been able to collect a dime of rent for over a year because the
Government decreed that they had to give up their rights as owners of
private property to solve a problem they didn't create. That was supposed
to be a temporary act of desperation that the liberal Socialists kept
extending to appeal to the "something for nothing" crowd, until the debt
grew to proportions that no tenant could ever repay. Especially those who
used their rent money to buy boats and other toys. Then Obiden tried to
extend the rent "moratorium" yet again, remarking in the same breath that
it was "probably illegal," as confirmed by the Supreme Court.
Then there's the issue of property taxes, when governments at every level
are broke, and property owners are sitting ducks... and eventually the
very Socialist notion that maybe none of us should actually OWN property
at all, but I'll likely not be around to worry about that possibility...
although my kids might.

Lovely rant. I give it two Chernobyls out of a possible five.

Post by Checkmate
What about liquidity... do you trust bitcoin

You're joking, right? I've seen twitchy toxic hypergolic rocket fuel
formulations that had less volatility. And none of it will be worth the
paper it isn't even printed on if things get bad enough that all our
technology goes dark.

Post by Checkmate
or precious metals?

Bulky, heavy, and invites attempts at armed robbery. I'll pass, thanks.

That leaves the burning question, what do you keep for liquidity...
dollars?

Of course. If deflation strikes, they'll go farther and farther.
Hyperinflation? My land is immune to that. Either way I've still got
something.

I can't imagine a condition in the current scenario where deflation is
even a long shot. A real estate crash is likely for homes, but if you're
mortgage-free, it's only a paper loss as long as you don't have to or want
to sell. Small farmland is what you want, but others will want to take it
from you, so you need a good perimeter, limited access, and... bunkers you
can shoot from. I'm not a dog lover, but I'd get 2 or 3 if needed. They
hear and smell anything coming, and their pack hunting behavior is very
effective.

Post by Nadegda

This appears to be the chink in your armor. It's the chink in
most people's armor. You'd better have some kind of wampum, and
generators, fuel, photovoltaics, batteries, etc. You know the shit is
rapidly approaching the fan, but you don't sound like you've adequately
thought this out. At least that's how it looks from my bunker.

I'm not the one with the loony notion that a bunker will save me.

A bunker will save my property because it gives me a clear line of sight
to the only way in here, and any "visitors" would have to trek up a 10'
wide very steep road, where I have the extra advantage of higher
elevation, and concertina wire that I can quickly deploy across the road.

Post by Nadegda
Let's consider four progressively worse situations.
1: A repeat of the Great Depression, or the hyperinflation in 1920s
Germany, or some similar economic crisis.
In that case, either my money or my land will retain its value. When
the dust settles I can put that to use. Your bunker will prove
unimportant.

You have land, I have land with a bunker to help defend it. A depression
will have little affect on me. I don't need a job, and I won't need much
in the way of supplies, other than meds, which is a potential problem that
I don't have a solution for beyond a small reserve stockpile.

Post by Nadegda
2: There's a medium-term breakdown of basic services, like New Orleans
after Katrina hit.
Generator, some food and bottled water stashed, looters will mainly be
in the city and not out here. You'll actually hide in it this time, but
your bunker will still prove unimportant as nobody will try to breach
it.

The bunker is not likely to be necessary, unless someone is well off the
beaten path, but better to have than need and not have. If your property
could be attacked, where would you take a stand? Where could you shoot
from without being a target?

Post by Nadegda
3: State collapse, and/or authoritarian takeover
That's when the yacht and the bug-out bag will prove useful, along with
some assets I have physically on me (no inconveniently-timed frozen
accounts will stop me taking them with me) and of course marketable
skills. The yacht has a portion of the fuel, food, and water on it at
any given time, so I just need to bring some miscellaneous valuables,
paper money, and external HDDs when the signal goes up. I can be on
open water in fifteen minutes and outside US territorial waters in under
an hour. If the roads are already impassable to the Tesla, or full of
goon squad checkpoints, I have an off-road capable secondary vehicle
that can probably outrun anything *they* might have, if they even notice
me.
This is where you hide in your bunker and it *does* come under attack.
Sometime between my exiting the sound into the Pacific proper and my
reaching international waters they'll find your air intake and exploit
that to flush you out, or maybe just to kill you on the spot.

You won't last long on the open water. Where would you go as a floating
target for pirates? ARRRGH! And now you've lost your land.

Post by Nadegda
4: End of civilization
In that event, most assets are worthless or even worse-than-useless
(magnet for trouble, e.g.); however, skills useful in repairing moderate-
tech things will be an "in" for being welcomed into a community, and
land, especially arable land, will have its use-value.
You'll hide in your bunker, and it may come under attack by a roving
warband, but they might not be smart or educated enough to look for the
air intakes. So, you might be safe for a few months or years, until your
supplies run out. Then you'll have to emerge to forage, with a bad back
and no more Oxys -- sounds like fun. In that case, you'll either live out
the rest of your life as a pain-wracked mountain-man hermit and die alone,
or you'll discover the hard way that no community of post-apocalyptic
village farmers wants an embittered old misanthrope with a bad back that
limits his ability to perform useful labor.

The oxys would be a big concern, but street drugs will be available, just
a lot dicier to get. It ends at some point for everyone. At some point,
we'll all wonder if clinging to a pile of shit is worth the trouble.
There's one comfort in getting old... each day you survive is another day
you won the game of life. With my estimated expiration date probably some
10-15 years from now, I've already beat the odds. I don't know how old
you are, but it's going to be a lot harder to beat my record, and I can't
see it being much fun trying.

Post by Nadegda
SPNAK!
<snicker>

Post by Nadegda
If the legal system doesn't collapse the land I own will be a durable store
of value. If it does the important thing will be to join a community of
people who know how to a) farm and b) defend a chunk of land, and to have
a useful skill. In my case, various mechanical repair skills.

In most cases, I'd say that's me in spades, but this isn't one of those
cases. What would you have to offer such a group in return?

Mechanical repair skills. Still suffering from reading comprehension
problems, kook?

is this a poofie

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me anymore and is cowering in his boogaloo-boi bunker Posting as "💩
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all of that k0oky overthinking and you missed some very important details.

you're going to venture out for street drugs, then? lol

lot of good your bunker will do when you finally buy your tainted meth and die.

whadda fucking loon. the rest of us will be rebuilding society and probably have to deal with Interference from you proud boy qanon unprepared prepper dipshits.

"4 out of 5 pet rocks" won't comment on this poast...

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"Also, it makes you look intellectually weak if you constantly spout derogatory opinions about people, but can never back any of them up with valid reasons. In alt.checkmate, someone will challenge that every time." - _The Most Ironic Thing Ever Said_ by Checkmate in <***@news.alt.net>

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"Starting with the World's Ugliest Chimp, Maxine Waters. That bitch is
hideous! It's no wonder "she always mad," to put it ebonically." - Checkmate "looking intellectually weak" (and racist AF) in <***@news.alt.net>

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"Subject: THE GREAT MASK MYTH... UNMASKED" - Checkmate the anti-masker in https://groups.google.com/g/alt.checkmate/c/ROknxOsPeEE/m/I-cujRAzBQAJ

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"Conservatives aren't looking for a war. Libtards are planning one, and it
starts with the cowardly antifa punks who dress in black, cover their
faces, wear helmets, and surround elderly citizens, poking them with
metal-tipped umbrellas. You know, like fascists." - another borken prediction from Checkmate (umbrella guy was later found to be a fascist) in <***@news.alt.net>

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"It will always be with you. Why do you think I hate those bastards as much as I do? I've been watching a lecture series on the history of the muzzies... many hour's worth, in fact, and the muzzies have been that way for thousands of years. It's in their culture. Every few hundred years, they try to invade Europe or some other region nearby, and have to be beaten back. They just need to be eliminated to whatever extent that's possible. You can't kill ideas completely, but you can set them back a few generations when necessary.

One important distinction between islam and christianity, is both religions have historically used their "beliefs" as a means to control the ignorant Unwashed Masses, only Western civilization became educated enough to take that power away from the clergy. The muzzies like their citizens to remain dumb, brainwashed, and obedient. That's why the radical ones are nearly all from The Land That Time Forgot. They're still stuck back in the fourteenth century, and suffer from the delusional notion that they're going to drag the rest of the world back there with them. As I see it, there's only one solution to that problem, and it's the same one we use to rid ourselves of rats, cockroaches, and other vermin." - Checkmate said this psycho lunatic shit in <***@news.altopia.com>

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"What you see happening in Europe now... defiant muzzies openly proclaiming that they have no desire to "assimilate" or co-exist with Europeans, and stating that their objective is to turn all of Europe into a muzzie dominated region under sharia law, is the harbinger of what they have planned for the US. To what extent they'll be successful with that here can be debated, but should not be underestimated. I wish I could share your optimism in that regard, but I don't.

Terror attacks are only one page out of the muzzie play book. They serve more as a distraction. The real goal is occupation, and that's already well underway. They've got that frog pretty well boiled in Europe now, and they're getting bolder by the day. The longer the Europeans wait to do something about it, the harder it's going to be TO do anything about it. It may already be too late IMO. This is going to get real messy in a hurry." - Checkmate crying about some bullshit about muslims in europe that's he's convinced himself is true.

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"Bitches don't get to use the Pussy Card when they initiate an
assault." - Cuckmate the Wonder Klown in <***@news.alt.net>

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"Thanks to muzzies and their apologist-enablers like puppy whistle, this seems to be the new norm in the world. It's spreading like a cancer, and it's time we admit we're at war with pure evil. We need to put an end to this muzzie plague, or life on Earth is going to become pure hell everywhere. We need to get these people out of every civilized country, and there's only one way to do it. IOW, we have to become like them, with an emphasis on expediency over cruelty." - Herr Fuhrer Checkmate (of alt.checkmate)

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"Pussy Willow has just proven that Trump's crackdown on previously unenforced immigration policies is working. We'll deal with the domestic terrorists as needed, but we don't need to be letting the muzzie terrorists get a foothold in our country too. One need only look at what they're doing in Europe right now to know we're doing the right thing by keeping them out, which is our right and our duty. - Checkmate (#1 pussy willow fan)

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"You just made puppy whistle's sig line longer." - Janithor

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STOP! (janithor time.):

i hope his sails weren't torn asunder with words on a screen, or
somesuch, but also i hope that his pain is not as bad as the murderguy
who got hit with a skateboard. - anynonymous

-

"If I have a complaint about the (Southern Poverty) Law Center's description (of the alt-right movement), it is the phrase "heavy use of social media," which implies the alt-right is a real-world movement which uses a lot of social media. This is backwards: it is an online movement which occasionally appears in the real world. Where it gets punched." - Jason Rhode

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"I think we should destroy every last fucking mosque in America." - "Checkmate, DoW #1" <***@The.Edge> proves for us that white males are violent in Message-ID: <***@news.altopia.com>

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"I wasn't even aware that I HAD a religion. I'm pretty-much against all of The Big Three, but the muzzies are at the top of the list." - Checkmate

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"Such "places of worship" are terrorist breeding grounds, as has been proven on many occasions. Please refrain from morphing out of my
killfile." - Checkmate on his belief that all Mosques are where terrorists are.

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"Is Pussy Willow saying you're a bigger nazi puke than me? You didn't even suggest that maybe we ought to burn down all the mosques. This just isn't fair!" - Checkmate admits to suggesting burning down mosques.

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"The world IS shit, and getting closer to hitting the fan every day. We'll be at war before the end of this decade, and nearly everybody
already knows it." - Checkmate teh war hawk, in 2017

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Golden Killfile, June 2005
KOTM, November 2006
Bob Allisat Memorial Hook, Line & Sinker, November 2006
Special Ops Cody Memorial Purple Heart, November 2006
Special Ops Cody Memorial Purple Heart, September 2007
Tony Sidaway Memorial "Drama Queen" Award, November 2006
Busted Urinal Award, April 2007
Order of the Holey Sockpuppet, September 2007
Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog Whistle, September 2006
Barbara Woodhouse Memorial Dog Whistle, April 2008
Tinfoil Sombrero, February 2007
AUK Mascot, September 2007
Putting the Awards Out of Order to Screw With the OCD Fuckheads, March 2016

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

Warning! Always make ANSI approved safety giggles when reading drivel by
Checkmate.
On Tue, 31 Aug 2021 02:11:00 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say

Post by Nadegda
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

Warning! Always make ANSI approved safety giggles when reading drivel by
Checkmate.
On Sun, 29 Aug 2021 22:21:55 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say

Post by Nadegda
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

Post by Checkmate
Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
Checkmate.
On Sat, 28 Aug 2021 23:06:18 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say

Post by Nadegda
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

Post by Checkmate
Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
Checkmate.
On Sat, 28 Aug 2021 20:26:30 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say

Post by Nadegda
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/us-dollar-crash-high-chance-double-dip-recession-roach-2020-9
----------
He said on Wednesday that he expected the collapse to happen by the end
of 2021, but he did not say by how much.
----------
Of course, the article vastly understates the severity of the coming crash.
When the dust settles, this guy will seem to have been a starry-eyed
optimist.

Guess what? The entire world's fiat economies are all going to crash.
You act as if this is the first time you've heard about it. Where are you
storing YOUR actual wealth... in a bank?

Land. It's the one thing they're not making any more of. Stocks may rise and
fall, utilities and transportation systems may collapse. People are no damn
good, but they will always need land and they'll pay through the nose to
get it.

I agree, but with a few caveats. There are thousands of landlords who
haven't been able to collect a dime of rent for over a year because the
Government decreed that they had to give up their rights as owners of
private property to solve a problem they didn't create. That was supposed
to be a temporary act of desperation that the liberal Socialists kept
extending to appeal to the "something for nothing" crowd, until the debt
grew to proportions that no tenant could ever repay. Especially those who
used their rent money to buy boats and other toys. Then Obiden tried to
extend the rent "moratorium" yet again, remarking in the same breath that
it was "probably illegal," as confirmed by the Supreme Court.
Then there's the issue of property taxes, when governments at every level
are broke, and property owners are sitting ducks... and eventually the
very Socialist notion that maybe none of us should actually OWN property
at all, but I'll likely not be around to worry about that possibility...
although my kids might.

Lovely rant. I give it two Chernobyls out of a possible five.

Post by Checkmate
What about liquidity... do you trust bitcoin

You're joking, right? I've seen twitchy toxic hypergolic rocket fuel
formulations that had less volatility. And none of it will be worth the
paper it isn't even printed on if things get bad enough that all our
technology goes dark.

Post by Checkmate
or precious metals?

Bulky, heavy, and invites attempts at armed robbery. I'll pass, thanks.

That leaves the burning question, what do you keep for liquidity...
dollars?

Of course. If deflation strikes, they'll go farther and farther.
Hyperinflation? My land is immune to that. Either way I've still got
something.

I can't imagine a condition in the current scenario where deflation is
even a long shot. A real estate crash is likely for homes, but if you're
mortgage-free, it's only a paper loss as long as you don't have to or want
to sell. Small farmland is what you want, but others will want to take it
from you, so you need a good perimeter, limited access, and... bunkers you
can shoot from. I'm not a dog lover, but I'd get 2 or 3 if needed. They
hear and smell anything coming, and their pack hunting behavior is very
effective.

See below.

Post by Nadegda

This appears to be the chink in your armor. It's the chink in
most people's armor. You'd better have some kind of wampum, and
generators, fuel, photovoltaics, batteries, etc. You know the shit is
rapidly approaching the fan, but you don't sound like you've adequately
thought this out. At least that's how it looks from my bunker.

I'm not the one with the loony notion that a bunker will save me.

A bunker will save my property because it gives me a clear line of sight
to the only way in here, and any "visitors" would have to trek up a 10'
wide very steep road, where I have the extra advantage of higher
elevation, and concertina wire that I can quickly deploy across the road.

This might help you against roving bandits. It won't help you against
government gone bad. They can send in a whole fucking army. You won't win
against them by shooting them one by one and deploying a few booby traps
at the road, especially when they will have ATVs, tanks, helicopters, and
planes. They could drop paratroopers behind your ass. Silently.

You would be forced to hole up underground, and then they'd go for the
air intakes ...

Hence my plan for government-gone-bad: get the hell out of the country.

However, this was item #1: economic crisis with the legal etc. system
still intact. The law should continue to protect a landowner from would-be
land thieves. No bunker needed.

Post by Nadegda
Let's consider four progressively worse situations.
1: A repeat of the Great Depression, or the hyperinflation in 1920s
Germany, or some similar economic crisis.
In that case, either my money or my land will retain its value. When
the dust settles I can put that to use. Your bunker will prove
unimportant.

You have land, I have land with a bunker to help defend it. A depression
will have little affect on me. I don't need a job, and I won't need much
in the way of supplies, other than meds, which is a potential problem that
I don't have a solution for beyond a small reserve stockpile.

That potential problem will rapidly become an actual one in any long-term
SHTF scenario.

Post by Nadegda
2: There's a medium-term breakdown of basic services, like New Orleans
after Katrina hit.
Generator, some food and bottled water stashed, looters will mainly be
in the city and not out here. You'll actually hide in it this time, but
your bunker will still prove unimportant as nobody will try to breach
it.

The bunker is not likely to be necessary, unless someone is well off the
beaten path, but better to have than need and not have. If your property
could be attacked, where would you take a stand? Where could you shoot
from without being a target?

Post by Nadegda
3: State collapse, and/or authoritarian takeover
That's when the yacht and the bug-out bag will prove useful, along with
some assets I have physically on me (no inconveniently-timed frozen
accounts will stop me taking them with me) and of course marketable
skills. The yacht has a portion of the fuel, food, and water on it at
any given time, so I just need to bring some miscellaneous valuables,
paper money, and external HDDs when the signal goes up. I can be on
open water in fifteen minutes and outside US territorial waters in under
an hour. If the roads are already impassable to the Tesla, or full of
goon squad checkpoints, I have an off-road capable secondary vehicle
that can probably outrun anything *they* might have, if they even notice
me.
This is where you hide in your bunker and it *does* come under attack.
Sometime between my exiting the sound into the Pacific proper and my
reaching international waters they'll find your air intake and exploit
that to flush you out, or maybe just to kill you on the spot.

You won't last long on the open water. Where would you go as a floating
target for pirates? ARRRGH! And now you've lost your land.

If the government has turned bad, then I've lost the land anyway. Trying to
cling onto it would just cost me my freedom as well, or my life. There's no
sensible option in that case but to leave the country. Whether there's been
a breakdown of international order allowing a rise in high-seas pirates
would be open to question. Regardless, departure by sea is likely the best
option. Disappear quickly from view. Big two-dimensional expanse to get lost
in. And wherever I wash up, the boat itself is a salable valuable if I need
a quick infusion of liquidity after arrival.

Post by Nadegda
4: End of civilization
In that event, most assets are worthless or even worse-than-useless
(magnet for trouble, e.g.); however, skills useful in repairing moderate-
tech things will be an "in" for being welcomed into a community, and
land, especially arable land, will have its use-value.
You'll hide in your bunker, and it may come under attack by a roving
warband, but they might not be smart or educated enough to look for the
air intakes. So, you might be safe for a few months or years, until your
supplies run out. Then you'll have to emerge to forage, with a bad back
and no more Oxys -- sounds like fun. In that case, you'll either live out
the rest of your life as a pain-wracked mountain-man hermit and die alone,
or you'll discover the hard way that no community of post-apocalyptic
village farmers wants an embittered old misanthrope with a bad back that
limits his ability to perform useful labor.

The oxys would be a big concern, but street drugs will be available, just
a lot dicier to get. It ends at some point for everyone. At some point,
we'll all wonder if clinging to a pile of shit is worth the trouble.
There's one comfort in getting old... each day you survive is another day
you won the game of life. With my estimated expiration date probably some
10-15 years from now, I've already beat the odds. I don't know how old
you are, but it's going to be a lot harder to beat my record, and I can't
see it being much fun trying.

So, at some point you foray out to score you some meth and bam! "They"
catch you away from your precious bunker. Oops.

<snicker>

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<***@gmail.invalid> determined that the following was of great
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<sgmbfl$v0f$***@dont-email.me>:

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=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= A bunker will save my property because it gives me a clear line of sight
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= to the only way in here, and any "visitors" would have to trek up a 10'
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= wide very steep road, where I have the extra advantage of higher
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= elevation, and concertina wire that I can quickly deploy across the
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= road.
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= This might help you against roving bandits. It won't help you against
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= government gone bad. They can send in a whole fucking army. You won't
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= win against them by shooting them one by one and deploying a few booby
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= traps at the road, especially when they will have ATVs, tanks,
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= helicopters, and planes. They could drop paratroopers behind your ass.
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Silently.
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= You would be forced to hole up underground, and then they'd go for the
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= air intakes ...
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Hence my plan for government-gone-bad: get the hell out of the country.
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= However, this was item #1: economic crisis with the legal etc. system
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= still intact. The law should continue to protect a landowner from
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= would-be land thieves. No bunker needed.
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Let's consider four progressively worse situations. 1: A repeat of the
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Great Depression, or the hyperinflation in 1920s Germany, or some
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= similar economic crisis. In that case, either my money or my land will
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= retain its value. When the dust settles I can put that to use. Your
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= bunker will prove unimportant.
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= You have land, I have land with a bunker to help defend it. A
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= depression will have little affect on me. I don't need a job, and I
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= won't need much in the way of supplies, other than meds, which is a
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= potential problem that I don't have a solution for beyond a small
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= reserve stockpile.
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= That potential problem will rapidly become an actual one in any
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= long-term SHTF scenario.
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= 2: There's a medium-term breakdown of basic services, like New Orleans
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= after Katrina hit. Generator, some food and bottled water stashed,
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= looters will mainly be in the city and not out here. You'll actually
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= hide in it this time, but your bunker will still prove unimportant as
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= nobody will try to breach it.
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= The bunker is not likely to be necessary, unless someone is well off the
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= beaten path, but better to have than need and not have. If your
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= property could be attacked, where would you take a stand? Where could
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= you shoot from without being a target?
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= 3: State collapse, and/or authoritarian takeover That's when the yacht
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= and the bug-out bag will prove useful, along with some assets I have
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= physically on me (no inconveniently-timed frozen accounts will stop me
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= taking them with me) and of course marketable skills. The yacht has a
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= portion of the fuel, food, and water on it at any given time, so I just
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= need to bring some miscellaneous valuables, paper money, and external
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= HDDs when the signal goes up. I can be on open water in fifteen minutes
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= and outside US territorial waters in under an hour. If the roads are
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= already impassable to the Tesla, or full of goon squad checkpoints, I
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= have an off-road capable secondary vehicle that can probably outrun
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= anything *they* might have, if they even notice me. This is where you
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= hide in your bunker and it *does* come under attack. Sometime between
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= my exiting the sound into the Pacific proper and my reaching
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= international waters they'll find your air intake and exploit that to
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= flush you out, or maybe just to kill you on the spot.
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= You won't last long on the open water. Where would you go as a floating
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= target for pirates? ARRRGH! And now you've lost your land.
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= If the government has turned bad, then I've lost the land anyway. Trying
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= to cling onto it would just cost me my freedom as well, or my life.
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= There's no sensible option in that case but to leave the country.
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= Whether there's been a breakdown of international order allowing a rise
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= in high-seas pirates would be open to question. Regardless, departure
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= by sea is likely the best option. Disappear quickly from view. Big
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= two-dimensional expanse to get lost in. And wherever I wash up, the
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= boat itself is a salable valuable if I need a quick infusion of
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= liquidity after arrival.
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= 4: End of civilization In that event, most assets are worthless or even
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= worse-than-useless (magnet for trouble, e.g.); however, skills useful in
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= repairing moderate- tech things will be an "in" for being welcomed into
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= a community, and land, especially arable land, will have its use-value.
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= You'll hide in your bunker, and it may come under attack by a roving
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= warband, but they might not be smart or educated enough to look for the
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= air intakes. So, you might be safe for a few months or years, until
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= your supplies run out. Then you'll have to emerge to forage, with a bad
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= back and no more Oxys -- sounds like fun. In that case, you'll either
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= live out the rest of your life as a pain-wracked mountain-man hermit
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= and die alone, or you'll discover the hard way that no community of
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= post-apocalyptic village farmers wants an embittered old misanthrope
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= with a bad back that limits his ability to perform useful labor.
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= The oxys would be a big concern, but street drugs will be available,
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= just a lot dicier to get. It ends at some point for everyone. At some
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= point, we'll all wonder if clinging to a pile of shit is worth the
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= trouble. There's one comfort in getting old... each day you survive is
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= another day you won the game of life. With my estimated expiration
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= date probably some 10-15 years from now, I've already beat the odds. I
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= don't know how old you are, but it's going to be a lot harder to beat
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= =?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= my record, and I can't see it being much fun trying.
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= So, at some point you foray out to score you some meth and bam! "They"
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= catch you away from your precious bunker. Oops.
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?= <💩snickerTurd💩>
=?UTF-8?B?8J+Ps++4j+KAjfCfjIg=?=

people like me will be helping society go on.

will you ever stop playing into the prepper idiot wet dream of chaos.

they assume there will be chaos because THEY are the ones who will be chaotic because they are wholly unprepared, despite their "advanced" <eyeroll> weaponry and shitty potted meats and MREs that will start to go rancid in 20 months.

prepper checky thinks growing mushrooms on pasteurized waste nitrates and cardstock is "eeew gross!", but i guess he just finds joy in shitpoasting at those who understand that the mushroom fruits do not internally contain any of the substrate. i mean, commercial criminis/portabello (same species, two cultivars) are grown on literally composted shit.

he'll be too distracted thinking about transwomens' penises in his bunker to get anything done for survival anyway.

i've noticed that the gun guys rilly like shemales.

"√? out of 0 pet rocks" can't DIVISION BY ZERO...

[Checkmate]

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On Tue, 31 Aug 2021 22:46:14 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say

Post by Nadegda
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

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On Tue, 31 Aug 2021 02:11:00 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say

Post by Nadegda
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

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On Sun, 29 Aug 2021 22:21:55 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say

Post by Nadegda
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

Post by Checkmate
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On Sat, 28 Aug 2021 23:06:18 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say

Post by Nadegda
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

Post by Checkmate
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On Sat, 28 Aug 2021 20:26:30 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say

Post by Nadegda
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/us-dollar-crash-high-chance-double-dip-recession-roach-2020-9
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He said on Wednesday that he expected the collapse to happen by the end
of 2021, but he did not say by how much.
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Of course, the article vastly understates the severity of the coming crash.
When the dust settles, this guy will seem to have been a starry-eyed
optimist.

Guess what? The entire world's fiat economies are all going to crash.
You act as if this is the first time you've heard about it. Where are you
storing YOUR actual wealth... in a bank?

Land. It's the one thing they're not making any more of. Stocks may rise and
fall, utilities and transportation systems may collapse. People are no damn
good, but they will always need land and they'll pay through the nose to
get it.

I agree, but with a few caveats. There are thousands of landlords who
haven't been able to collect a dime of rent for over a year because the
Government decreed that they had to give up their rights as owners of
private property to solve a problem they didn't create. That was supposed
to be a temporary act of desperation that the liberal Socialists kept
extending to appeal to the "something for nothing" crowd, until the debt
grew to proportions that no tenant could ever repay. Especially those who
used their rent money to buy boats and other toys. Then Obiden tried to
extend the rent "moratorium" yet again, remarking in the same breath that
it was "probably illegal," as confirmed by the Supreme Court.
Then there's the issue of property taxes, when governments at every level
are broke, and property owners are sitting ducks... and eventually the
very Socialist notion that maybe none of us should actually OWN property
at all, but I'll likely not be around to worry about that possibility...
although my kids might.

Lovely rant. I give it two Chernobyls out of a possible five.

Post by Checkmate
What about liquidity... do you trust bitcoin

You're joking, right? I've seen twitchy toxic hypergolic rocket fuel
formulations that had less volatility. And none of it will be worth the
paper it isn't even printed on if things get bad enough that all our
technology goes dark.

Post by Checkmate
or precious metals?

Bulky, heavy, and invites attempts at armed robbery. I'll pass, thanks.

That leaves the burning question, what do you keep for liquidity...
dollars?

Of course. If deflation strikes, they'll go farther and farther.
Hyperinflation? My land is immune to that. Either way I've still got
something.

I can't imagine a condition in the current scenario where deflation is
even a long shot. A real estate crash is likely for homes, but if you're
mortgage-free, it's only a paper loss as long as you don't have to or want
to sell. Small farmland is what you want, but others will want to take it
from you, so you need a good perimeter, limited access, and... bunkers you
can shoot from. I'm not a dog lover, but I'd get 2 or 3 if needed. They
hear and smell anything coming, and their pack hunting behavior is very
effective.

See below.

Okay.

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Post by Nadegda

This appears to be the chink in your armor. It's the chink in
most people's armor. You'd better have some kind of wampum, and
generators, fuel, photovoltaics, batteries, etc. You know the shit is
rapidly approaching the fan, but you don't sound like you've adequately
thought this out. At least that's how it looks from my bunker.

I'm not the one with the loony notion that a bunker will save me.

A bunker will save my property because it gives me a clear line of sight
to the only way in here, and any "visitors" would have to trek up a 10'
wide very steep road, where I have the extra advantage of higher
elevation, and concertina wire that I can quickly deploy across the road.

This might help you against roving bandits. It won't help you against
government gone bad. They can send in a whole fucking army. You won't win
against them by shooting them one by one and deploying a few booby traps
at the road, especially when they will have ATVs, tanks, helicopters, and
planes. They could drop paratroopers behind your ass. Silently.

This is everybody's nightmare. Since it's not my nature to venture out
and start shit, I'm hoping they won't feel any need to come bother me.
They'll be busy enough dealing with the trouble makers.

Post by Nadegda
You would be forced to hole up underground, and then they'd go for the
air intakes ...

Of course they would if they really had the motivation to come fuck with
someone not posing any threat to them unless they were determined to haul
a noncombatant off to a FEMA camp for some reason. That forces my hand
because I'm not going to be taken anywhere alive. I won't go into details
about my bunker arrangements, but the air vent trick would probably not be
very effective.

Post by Nadegda
Hence my plan for government-gone-bad: get the hell out of the country.
However, this was item #1: economic crisis with the legal etc. system
still intact. The law should continue to protect a landowner from would-be
land thieves. No bunker needed.

Post by Nadegda
Let's consider four progressively worse situations.
1: A repeat of the Great Depression, or the hyperinflation in 1920s
Germany, or some similar economic crisis.
In that case, either my money or my land will retain its value. When
the dust settles I can put that to use. Your bunker will prove
unimportant.

You have land, I have land with a bunker to help defend it. A depression
will have little affect on me. I don't need a job, and I won't need much
in the way of supplies, other than meds, which is a potential problem that
I don't have a solution for beyond a small reserve stockpile.

That potential problem will rapidly become an actual one in any long-term
SHTF scenario.

Post by Nadegda
2: There's a medium-term breakdown of basic services, like New Orleans
after Katrina hit.
Generator, some food and bottled water stashed, looters will mainly be
in the city and not out here. You'll actually hide in it this time, but
your bunker will still prove unimportant as nobody will try to breach
it.

The bunker is not likely to be necessary, unless someone is well off the
beaten path, but better to have than need and not have. If your property
could be attacked, where would you take a stand? Where could you shoot
from without being a target?

Post by Nadegda
3: State collapse, and/or authoritarian takeover
That's when the yacht and the bug-out bag will prove useful, along with
some assets I have physically on me (no inconveniently-timed frozen
accounts will stop me taking them with me) and of course marketable
skills. The yacht has a portion of the fuel, food, and water on it at
any given time, so I just need to bring some miscellaneous valuables,
paper money, and external HDDs when the signal goes up. I can be on
open water in fifteen minutes and outside US territorial waters in under
an hour. If the roads are already impassable to the Tesla, or full of
goon squad checkpoints, I have an off-road capable secondary vehicle
that can probably outrun anything *they* might have, if they even notice
me.
This is where you hide in your bunker and it *does* come under attack.
Sometime between my exiting the sound into the Pacific proper and my
reaching international waters they'll find your air intake and exploit
that to flush you out, or maybe just to kill you on the spot.

You won't last long on the open water. Where would you go as a floating
target for pirates? ARRRGH! And now you've lost your land.

If the government has turned bad, then I've lost the land anyway. Trying to
cling onto it would just cost me my freedom as well, or my life.

At my age, that's a hill I'm willing to die on.

Post by Nadegda
There's no
sensible option in that case but to leave the country. Whether there's been
a breakdown of international order allowing a rise in high-seas pirates
would be open to question. Regardless, departure by sea is likely the best
option. Disappear quickly from view. Big two-dimensional expanse to get lost
in. And wherever I wash up, the boat itself is a salable valuable if I need
a quick infusion of liquidity after arrival.

Too many optimistic assumptions on your part. The Coast Guard will be
patrolling the sea, and you won't likely make it out of the Sound and it's
choke points, and then there's radar.

Do you even own a bote capable of what you're envisioning? A bote that
size better already be in the water and fully stocked. What kind of range
will you have to get out of dodge and find a safe shore to go to? In an
all out war the Pacific Islands will about as much fun as they were in
WWII. You'd freeze your ass off in the Aleutians, and probably meet some
real Comrades from Russia.

Anyway, back to the bote, does a girl from Arizona have a bote that could
be towed to Washington behind a Tesla, or have you since bought a big
expensive one accumulating slip rental fees every month? The ideal
situation better than a bote would be a friend with a bote, and what
assets could you bring to the party? I suspect you don't quite have the
bote part off the drawing board yet.

Post by Nadegda

Post by Nadegda
4: End of civilization
In that event, most assets are worthless or even worse-than-useless
(magnet for trouble, e.g.); however, skills useful in repairing moderate-
tech things will be an "in" for being welcomed into a community, and
land, especially arable land, will have its use-value.
You'll hide in your bunker, and it may come under attack by a roving
warband, but they might not be smart or educated enough to look for the
air intakes. So, you might be safe for a few months or years, until your
supplies run out. Then you'll have to emerge to forage, with a bad back
and no more Oxys -- sounds like fun. In that case, you'll either live out
the rest of your life as a pain-wracked mountain-man hermit and die alone,
or you'll discover the hard way that no community of post-apocalyptic
village farmers wants an embittered old misanthrope with a bad back that
limits his ability to perform useful labor.

The oxys would be a big concern, but street drugs will be available, just
a lot dicier to get. It ends at some point for everyone. At some point,
we'll all wonder if clinging to a pile of shit is worth the trouble.
There's one comfort in getting old... each day you survive is another day
you won the game of life. With my estimated expiration date probably some
10-15 years from now, I've already beat the odds. I don't know how old
you are, but it's going to be a lot harder to beat my record, and I can't
see it being much fun trying.

So, at some point you foray out to score you some meth and bam! "They"
catch you away from your precious bunker. Oops.

WTF would I want with meth? I don't take anything I don't need. Insulin
and pain meds would be my only concerns in that department, and since I
can't stockpile them, I'd have to try to get them with my wampum. Like I
said, I'll be checking out one way or another sooner or later. The object
of the game is to go for later, but we all lose the game at some point.
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Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

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Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

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Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

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Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

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https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/us-dollar-crash-high-chance-double-dip-recession-roach-2020-9
----------
He said on Wednesday that he expected the collapse to happen by the end
of 2021, but he did not say by how much.
----------
Of course, the article vastly understates the severity of the coming crash.
When the dust settles, this guy will seem to have been a starry-eyed
optimist.

Guess what? The entire world's fiat economies are all going to crash.
You act as if this is the first time you've heard about it. Where are you
storing YOUR actual wealth... in a bank?

Land. It's the one thing they're not making any more of. Stocks may rise and
fall, utilities and transportation systems may collapse. People are no damn
good, but they will always need land and they'll pay through the nose to
get it.

I agree, but with a few caveats. There are thousands of landlords who
haven't been able to collect a dime of rent for over a year because the
Government decreed that they had to give up their rights as owners of
private property to solve a problem they didn't create. That was supposed
to be a temporary act of desperation that the liberal Socialists kept
extending to appeal to the "something for nothing" crowd, until the debt
grew to proportions that no tenant could ever repay. Especially those who
used their rent money to buy boats and other toys. Then Obiden tried to
extend the rent "moratorium" yet again, remarking in the same breath that
it was "probably illegal," as confirmed by the Supreme Court.
Then there's the issue of property taxes, when governments at every level
are broke, and property owners are sitting ducks... and eventually the
very Socialist notion that maybe none of us should actually OWN property
at all, but I'll likely not be around to worry about that possibility...
although my kids might.

Lovely rant. I give it two Chernobyls out of a possible five.

Post by Checkmate
What about liquidity... do you trust bitcoin

You're joking, right? I've seen twitchy toxic hypergolic rocket fuel
formulations that had less volatility. And none of it will be worth the
paper it isn't even printed on if things get bad enough that all our
technology goes dark.

Post by Checkmate
or precious metals?

Bulky, heavy, and invites attempts at armed robbery. I'll pass, thanks.

That leaves the burning question, what do you keep for liquidity...
dollars?

Of course. If deflation strikes, they'll go farther and farther.
Hyperinflation? My land is immune to that. Either way I've still got
something.

I can't imagine a condition in the current scenario where deflation is
even a long shot. A real estate crash is likely for homes, but if you're
mortgage-free, it's only a paper loss as long as you don't have to or want
to sell. Small farmland is what you want, but others will want to take it
from you, so you need a good perimeter, limited access, and... bunkers you
can shoot from. I'm not a dog lover, but I'd get 2 or 3 if needed. They
hear and smell anything coming, and their pack hunting behavior is very
effective.

See below.

Okay.

Post by Nadegda

Post by Nadegda

This appears to be the chink in your armor. It's the chink in
most people's armor. You'd better have some kind of wampum, and
generators, fuel, photovoltaics, batteries, etc. You know the shit is
rapidly approaching the fan, but you don't sound like you've adequately
thought this out. At least that's how it looks from my bunker.

I'm not the one with the loony notion that a bunker will save me.

A bunker will save my property because it gives me a clear line of sight
to the only way in here, and any "visitors" would have to trek up a 10'
wide very steep road, where I have the extra advantage of higher
elevation, and concertina wire that I can quickly deploy across the road.

This might help you against roving bandits. It won't help you against
government gone bad. They can send in a whole fucking army. You won't win
against them by shooting them one by one and deploying a few booby traps
at the road, especially when they will have ATVs, tanks, helicopters, and
planes. They could drop paratroopers behind your ass. Silently.

This is everybody's nightmare. Since it's not my nature to venture out
and start shit, I'm hoping they won't feel any need to come bother me.
They'll be busy enough dealing with the trouble makers.

Post by Nadegda
You would be forced to hole up underground, and then they'd go for the
air intakes ...

Of course they would if they really had the motivation to come fuck with
someone not posing any threat to them unless they were determined to haul
a noncombatant off to a FEMA camp for some reason. That forces my hand
because I'm not going to be taken anywhere alive. I won't go into details
about my bunker arrangements, but the air vent trick would probably not be
very effective.

Post by Nadegda
Hence my plan for government-gone-bad: get the hell out of the country.
However, this was item #1: economic crisis with the legal etc. system
still intact. The law should continue to protect a landowner from would-be
land thieves. No bunker needed.

Post by Nadegda
Let's consider four progressively worse situations.
1: A repeat of the Great Depression, or the hyperinflation in 1920s
Germany, or some similar economic crisis.
In that case, either my money or my land will retain its value. When
the dust settles I can put that to use. Your bunker will prove
unimportant.

You have land, I have land with a bunker to help defend it. A depression
will have little affect on me. I don't need a job, and I won't need much
in the way of supplies, other than meds, which is a potential problem that
I don't have a solution for beyond a small reserve stockpile.

That potential problem will rapidly become an actual one in any long-term
SHTF scenario.

Post by Nadegda
2: There's a medium-term breakdown of basic services, like New Orleans
after Katrina hit.
Generator, some food and bottled water stashed, looters will mainly be
in the city and not out here. You'll actually hide in it this time, but
your bunker will still prove unimportant as nobody will try to breach
it.

The bunker is not likely to be necessary, unless someone is well off the
beaten path, but better to have than need and not have. If your property
could be attacked, where would you take a stand? Where could you shoot
from without being a target?

Post by Nadegda
3: State collapse, and/or authoritarian takeover
That's when the yacht and the bug-out bag will prove useful, along with
some assets I have physically on me (no inconveniently-timed frozen
accounts will stop me taking them with me) and of course marketable
skills. The yacht has a portion of the fuel, food, and water on it at
any given time, so I just need to bring some miscellaneous valuables,
paper money, and external HDDs when the signal goes up. I can be on
open water in fifteen minutes and outside US territorial waters in under
an hour. If the roads are already impassable to the Tesla, or full of
goon squad checkpoints, I have an off-road capable secondary vehicle
that can probably outrun anything *they* might have, if they even notice
me.
This is where you hide in your bunker and it *does* come under attack.
Sometime between my exiting the sound into the Pacific proper and my
reaching international waters they'll find your air intake and exploit
that to flush you out, or maybe just to kill you on the spot.

You won't last long on the open water. Where would you go as a floating
target for pirates? ARRRGH! And now you've lost your land.

If the government has turned bad, then I've lost the land anyway. Trying to
cling onto it would just cost me my freedom as well, or my life.

At my age, that's a hill I'm willing to die on.

Post by Nadegda
There's no
sensible option in that case but to leave the country. Whether there's been
a breakdown of international order allowing a rise in high-seas pirates
would be open to question. Regardless, departure by sea is likely the best
option. Disappear quickly from view. Big two-dimensional expanse to get lost
in. And wherever I wash up, the boat itself is a salable valuable if I need
a quick infusion of liquidity after arrival.

Too many optimistic assumptions on your part. The Coast Guard will be
patrolling the sea, and you won't likely make it out of the Sound and it's
choke points, and then there's radar.
Do you even own a bote capable of what you're envisioning? A bote that
size better already be in the water and fully stocked. What kind of range
will you have to get out of dodge and find a safe shore to go to? In an
all out war the Pacific Islands will about as much fun as they were in
WWII. You'd freeze your ass off in the Aleutians, and probably meet some
real Comrades from Russia.
Anyway, back to the bote, does a girl from Arizona have a bote that could
be towed to Washington behind a Tesla, or have you since bought a big
expensive one accumulating slip rental fees every month? The ideal
situation better than a bote would be a friend with a bote, and what
assets could you bring to the party? I suspect you don't quite have the
bote part off the drawing board yet.

Post by Nadegda

Post by Nadegda
4: End of civilization
In that event, most assets are worthless or even worse-than-useless
(magnet for trouble, e.g.); however, skills useful in repairing moderate-
tech things will be an "in" for being welcomed into a community, and
land, especially arable land, will have its use-value.
You'll hide in your bunker, and it may come under attack by a roving
warband, but they might not be smart or educated enough to look for the
air intakes. So, you might be safe for a few months or years, until your
supplies run out. Then you'll have to emerge to forage, with a bad back
and no more Oxys -- sounds like fun. In that case, you'll either live out
the rest of your life as a pain-wracked mountain-man hermit and die alone,
or you'll discover the hard way that no community of post-apocalyptic
village farmers wants an embittered old misanthrope with a bad back that
limits his ability to perform useful labor.

The oxys would be a big concern, but street drugs will be available, just
a lot dicier to get. It ends at some point for everyone. At some point,
we'll all wonder if clinging to a pile of shit is worth the trouble.
There's one comfort in getting old... each day you survive is another day
you won the game of life. With my estimated expiration date probably some
10-15 years from now, I've already beat the odds. I don't know how old
you are, but it's going to be a lot harder to beat my record, and I can't
see it being much fun trying.

So, at some point you foray out to score you some meth and bam! "They"
catch you away from your precious bunker. Oops.

WTF would I want with meth? I don't take anything I don't need. Insulin
and pain meds would be my only concerns in that department, and since I
can't stockpile them, I'd have to try to get them with my wampum. Like I
said, I'll be checking out one way or another sooner or later. The object
of the game is to go for later, but we all lose the game at some point.

no , i don't

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WTF would I want with meth? I don't take anything I don't need. Insulin
and pain meds would be my only concerns in that department, and since I
can't stockpile them, I'd have to try to get them with my wampum. Like I
said, I'll be checking out one way or another sooner or later. The object
of the game is to go for later, but we all lose the game at some point.

no , i don't

Keep telling yourself that.
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WTF would I want with meth? I don't take anything I don't need. Insulin
and pain meds would be my only concerns in that department, and since I
can't stockpile them, I'd have to try to get them with my wampum. Like I
said, I'll be checking out one way or another sooner or later. The object
of the game is to go for later, but we all lose the game at some point.

no , i don't

Keep telling yourself that.

i suspect i'll keep telling myself whatever i like

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WTF would I want with meth? I don't take anything I don't need. Insulin
and pain meds would be my only concerns in that department, and since I
can't stockpile them, I'd have to try to get them with my wampum. Like I
said, I'll be checking out one way or another sooner or later. The object
of the game is to go for later, but we all lose the game at some point.

no , i don't

Keep telling yourself that.

i suspect i'll keep telling myself whatever i like

Until one day you won't.
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WTF would I want with meth? I don't take anything I don't need. Insulin
and pain meds would be my only concerns in that department, and since I
can't stockpile them, I'd have to try to get them with my wampum. Like I
said, I'll be checking out one way or another sooner or later. The object
of the game is to go for later, but we all lose the game at some point.

no , i don't

Keep telling yourself that.

i suspect i'll keep telling myself whatever i like

Until one day you won't.

i will that day too but i'll say i didn't

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WTF would I want with meth? I don't take anything I don't need. Insulin
and pain meds would be my only concerns in that department, and since I
can't stockpile them, I'd have to try to get them with my wampum. Like I
said, I'll be checking out one way or another sooner or later. The object
of the game is to go for later, but we all lose the game at some point.

no , i don't

Keep telling yourself that.

i suspect i'll keep telling myself whatever i like

Until one day you won't.

i will that day too but i'll say i didn't

Hopefully you die before the weekend. Thursday night would be
good.

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WTF would I want with meth? I don't take anything I don't need. Insulin
and pain meds would be my only concerns in that department, and since I
can't stockpile them, I'd have to try to get them with my wampum. Like I
said, I'll be checking out one way or another sooner or later. The object
of the game is to go for later, but we all lose the game at some point.

no , i don't

Keep telling yourself that.

i suspect i'll keep telling myself whatever i like

Until one day you won't.

i will that day too but i'll say i didn't

Hopefully you die before the weekend. Thursday night would be
good.

another guy from wittenoom

[kensi]

Post by Checkmate
On Tue, 31 Aug 2021 22:46:14 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say

Post by Nadegda
This might help you against roving bandits. It won't help you against
government gone bad. They can send in a whole fucking army. You won't win
against them by shooting them one by one and deploying a few booby traps
at the road, especially when they will have ATVs, tanks, helicopters, and
planes. They could drop paratroopers behind your ass. Silently.

This is everybody's nightmare. Since it's not my nature to venture out
and start shit, I'm hoping they won't feel any need to come bother me.
They'll be busy enough dealing with the trouble makers.

You wouldn't have to venture out and start shit, ko0ky. You'd just have to
be in the way of something they wanted to do, or be sitting on something they
wanted.

Lots of people in 1930s Europe figured to just be silent and keep their nose
down. A not-inconsiderable fraction of them ended up expropriated or even
dead, sometimes just for having the "wrong" ethnic background.

And, of course, later you suggested you *would* venture out and start shit.
Involve yourself in illicit drug deals, no less.

Post by Checkmate
I won't go into details about my bunker arrangements, but the air vent
trick would probably not be very effective.

Bottled oxygen? It would take an awful lot of that to hold out for more
than a few hours.

Niosphere III? Would need a big glass roof, just begging for them to drop
a bomb on it.

Underground Biosphere III with a nuclear reactor powering the big-ass
sunlamp? Now you'd probably need to be a nation-state actor prepping for
turning an asteroid into a starship, or at least for World War III.

You'd also have a heat dissipation problem. And guess what? The baddies
will now have the fun of finding and clogging your coolant intake pipes
and watching your bunker do a creditable imitation of Chernobyl.

Face it, k0Ok: the laws of physics basically forbid walling yourself off
completely from the outside world without either asphyxiating or cooking
yourself. There's no getting around it. Somewhere your bunker will have an
exploitable weak point. Call it Tarkin's Final Lesson.

*snicker*

Post by Checkmate

Post by Nadegda
If the government has turned bad, then I've lost the land anyway. Trying to
cling onto it would just cost me my freedom as well, or my life.

At my age, that's a hill I'm willing to die on.

Let Nadegda know where your sister lives and maybe she'll send flowers.

*snicker*

Post by Checkmate
Too many optimistic assumptions on your part. The Coast Guard will be
patrolling the sea, and you won't likely make it out of the Sound and it's
choke points, and then there's radar.

That assumes a fugitive hunt, rather than a spreading diaspora of refugees
in which the odds of any particular one being harassed are remote because
it's a target-rich environment.

Or did you think Nadegda would be the only one with a similar bug-out plan?

You also seem to be forgetting that the Coast Guard has not been very
effective at keeping Caribbean drug-runners from smuggling cocaine and
shit into southern states using very fast, low-to-the-water cigarette boats.
Not to mention Cuban and other refugees. Nadegda is clearly smart and
well-resourced enough to have obtained some similar mode of transportation.

Post by Checkmate
Do you even own a bote capable of what you're envisioning? A bote that
size better already be in the water and fully stocked. What kind of range
will you have to get out of dodge and find a safe shore to go to? In an
all out war the Pacific Islands will about as much fun as they were in
WWII. You'd freeze your ass off in the Aleutians, and probably meet some
real Comrades from Russia.

Those boats have the range to go from Mexico to Florida, so they can
certainly get from Puget Sound up the coast to Canada. Down to Mexico might
or might not also be an option.

Post by Checkmate

Post by Nadegda
So, at some point you foray out to score you some meth and bam! "They"
catch you away from your precious bunker. Oops.
<snicker>

WTF would I want with meth?

Yeah, I know enough chemistry to know that you'd probably be wanting
heroin instead.

Doesn't alter Nadegda's point materially, though.

Post by Checkmate
Insulin and pain meds would be my only concerns in that department,

You need insulin? Well, then, if civilization falls you're just plain
screwed, full stop.

*snicker*

[kensi]

Post by kensi

Post by Checkmate
On Tue, 31 Aug 2021 22:46:14 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say

Post by Nadegda
This might help you against roving bandits. It won't help you against
government gone bad. They can send in a whole fucking army. You won't win
against them by shooting them one by one and deploying a few booby traps
at the road, especially when they will have ATVs, tanks, helicopters, and
planes. They could drop paratroopers behind your ass. Silently.

This is everybody's nightmare. Since it's not my nature to venture out
and start shit, I'm hoping they won't feel any need to come bother me.
They'll be busy enough dealing with the trouble makers.

You wouldn't have to venture out and start shit, ko0ky. You'd just have to
be in the way of something they wanted to do, or be sitting on something they
wanted.
Lots of people in 1930s Europe figured to just be silent and keep their nose
down. A not-inconsiderable fraction of them ended up expropriated or even
dead, sometimes just for having the "wrong" ethnic background.
And, of course, later you suggested you *would* venture out and start shit.
Involve yourself in illicit drug deals, no less.

Post by Checkmate
I won't go into details about my bunker arrangements, but the air vent
trick would probably not be very effective.

Bottled oxygen? It would take an awful lot of that to hold out for more
than a few hours.
Niosphere III? Would need a big glass roof, just begging for them to drop
a bomb on it.
Underground Biosphere III with a nuclear reactor powering the big-ass
sunlamp? Now you'd probably need to be a nation-state actor prepping for
turning an asteroid into a starship, or at least for World War III.
You'd also have a heat dissipation problem. And guess what? The baddies
will now have the fun of finding and clogging your coolant intake pipes
and watching your bunker do a creditable imitation of Chernobyl.
Face it, k0Ok: the laws of physics basically forbid walling yourself off
completely from the outside world without either asphyxiating or cooking
yourself. There's no getting around it. Somewhere your bunker will have an
exploitable weak point. Call it Tarkin's Final Lesson.
*snicker*

Post by Checkmate

Post by Nadegda
If the government has turned bad, then I've lost the land anyway. Trying to
cling onto it would just cost me my freedom as well, or my life.

At my age, that's a hill I'm willing to die on.

Let Nadegda know where your sister lives and maybe she'll send flowers.
*snicker*

Post by Checkmate
Too many optimistic assumptions on your part. The Coast Guard will be
patrolling the sea, and you won't likely make it out of the Sound and it's
choke points, and then there's radar.

That assumes a fugitive hunt, rather than a spreading diaspora of refugees
in which the odds of any particular one being harassed are remote because
it's a target-rich environment.
Or did you think Nadegda would be the only one with a similar bug-out plan?
You also seem to be forgetting that the Coast Guard has not been very
effective at keeping Caribbean drug-runners from smuggling cocaine and
shit into southern states using very fast, low-to-the-water cigarette boats.
Not to mention Cuban and other refugees. Nadegda is clearly smart and
well-resourced enough to have obtained some similar mode of transportation.

Post by Checkmate
Do you even own a bote capable of what you're envisioning? A bote that
size better already be in the water and fully stocked. What kind of range
will you have to get out of dodge and find a safe shore to go to? In an
all out war the Pacific Islands will about as much fun as they were in
WWII. You'd freeze your ass off in the Aleutians, and probably meet some
real Comrades from Russia.

Those boats have the range to go from Mexico to Florida, so they can
certainly get from Puget Sound up the coast to Canada. Down to Mexico might
or might not also be an option.

Post by Checkmate

Post by Nadegda
So, at some point you foray out to score you some meth and bam! "They"
catch you away from your precious bunker. Oops.
<snicker>

WTF would I want with meth?

Yeah, I know enough chemistry to know that you'd probably be wanting
heroin instead.
Doesn't alter Nadegda's point materially, though.

Post by Checkmate
Insulin and pain meds would be my only concerns in that department,

You need insulin? Well, then, if civilization falls you're just plain
screwed, full stop.
*snicker*

*crickets*

Looks like he has no rebuttal to this at all.

*does a little victory dance*

[Checkmate]

Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
Checkmate.

On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 03:45:32 -0000 (UTC), kensi had the audacity to say the

Post by kensi

Post by kensi

Post by Checkmate
On Tue, 31 Aug 2021 22:46:14 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say

Post by Nadegda
This might help you against roving bandits. It won't help you against
government gone bad. They can send in a whole fucking army. You won't win
against them by shooting them one by one and deploying a few booby traps
at the road, especially when they will have ATVs, tanks, helicopters, and
planes. They could drop paratroopers behind your ass. Silently.

This is everybody's nightmare. Since it's not my nature to venture out
and start shit, I'm hoping they won't feel any need to come bother me.
They'll be busy enough dealing with the trouble makers.

You wouldn't have to venture out and start shit, ko0ky. You'd just have to
be in the way of something they wanted to do, or be sitting on something they
wanted.
Lots of people in 1930s Europe figured to just be silent and keep their nose
down. A not-inconsiderable fraction of them ended up expropriated or even
dead, sometimes just for having the "wrong" ethnic background.
And, of course, later you suggested you *would* venture out and start shit.
Involve yourself in illicit drug deals, no less.

Post by Checkmate
I won't go into details about my bunker arrangements, but the air vent
trick would probably not be very effective.

Bottled oxygen? It would take an awful lot of that to hold out for more
than a few hours.
Niosphere III? Would need a big glass roof, just begging for them to drop
a bomb on it.
Underground Biosphere III with a nuclear reactor powering the big-ass
sunlamp? Now you'd probably need to be a nation-state actor prepping for
turning an asteroid into a starship, or at least for World War III.
You'd also have a heat dissipation problem. And guess what? The baddies
will now have the fun of finding and clogging your coolant intake pipes
and watching your bunker do a creditable imitation of Chernobyl.
Face it, k0Ok: the laws of physics basically forbid walling yourself off
completely from the outside world without either asphyxiating or cooking
yourself. There's no getting around it. Somewhere your bunker will have an
exploitable weak point. Call it Tarkin's Final Lesson.
*snicker*

Post by Checkmate

Post by Nadegda
If the government has turned bad, then I've lost the land anyway. Trying to
cling onto it would just cost me my freedom as well, or my life.

At my age, that's a hill I'm willing to die on.

Let Nadegda know where your sister lives and maybe she'll send flowers.
*snicker*

Post by Checkmate
Too many optimistic assumptions on your part. The Coast Guard will be
patrolling the sea, and you won't likely make it out of the Sound and it's
choke points, and then there's radar.

That assumes a fugitive hunt, rather than a spreading diaspora of refugees
in which the odds of any particular one being harassed are remote because
it's a target-rich environment.
Or did you think Nadegda would be the only one with a similar bug-out plan?
You also seem to be forgetting that the Coast Guard has not been very
effective at keeping Caribbean drug-runners from smuggling cocaine and
shit into southern states using very fast, low-to-the-water cigarette boats.
Not to mention Cuban and other refugees. Nadegda is clearly smart and
well-resourced enough to have obtained some similar mode of transportation.

Post by Checkmate
Do you even own a bote capable of what you're envisioning? A bote that
size better already be in the water and fully stocked. What kind of range
will you have to get out of dodge and find a safe shore to go to? In an
all out war the Pacific Islands will about as much fun as they were in
WWII. You'd freeze your ass off in the Aleutians, and probably meet some
real Comrades from Russia.

Those boats have the range to go from Mexico to Florida, so they can
certainly get from Puget Sound up the coast to Canada. Down to Mexico might
or might not also be an option.

Post by Checkmate

Post by Nadegda
So, at some point you foray out to score you some meth and bam! "They"
catch you away from your precious bunker. Oops.
<snicker>

WTF would I want with meth?

Yeah, I know enough chemistry to know that you'd probably be wanting
heroin instead.
Doesn't alter Nadegda's point materially, though.

Post by Checkmate
Insulin and pain meds would be my only concerns in that department,

You need insulin? Well, then, if civilization falls you're just plain
screwed, full stop.
*snicker*

*crickets*
Looks like he has no rebuttal to this at all.
*does a little victory dance*

Rebuttal to what? I didn't read anything here that I felt needed further
comment from me. I was discussing this topic with Nads, and your input
was of little interest to me.
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Post by Checkmate
Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
Checkmate.
On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 17:15:27 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say

Post by Nadegda
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

Post by Checkmate
Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
Checkmate.
On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 03:45:32 -0000 (UTC), kensi had the audacity to say the

Post by kensi

Post by kensi

Post by Checkmate
On Tue, 31 Aug 2021 22:46:14 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say

Post by Nadegda
This might help you against roving bandits. It won't help you against
government gone bad. They can send in a whole fucking army. You won't win
against them by shooting them one by one and deploying a few booby traps
at the road, especially when they will have ATVs, tanks, helicopters, and
planes. They could drop paratroopers behind your ass. Silently.

This is everybody's nightmare. Since it's not my nature to venture out
and start shit, I'm hoping they won't feel any need to come bother me.
They'll be busy enough dealing with the trouble makers.

You wouldn't have to venture out and start shit, ko0ky. You'd just have to
be in the way of something they wanted to do, or be sitting on something they
wanted.
Lots of people in 1930s Europe figured to just be silent and keep their nose
down. A not-inconsiderable fraction of them ended up expropriated or even
dead, sometimes just for having the "wrong" ethnic background.
And, of course, later you suggested you *would* venture out and start shit.
Involve yourself in illicit drug deals, no less.

Post by Checkmate
I won't go into details about my bunker arrangements, but the air vent
trick would probably not be very effective.

Bottled oxygen? It would take an awful lot of that to hold out for more
than a few hours.
Niosphere III? Would need a big glass roof, just begging for them to drop
a bomb on it.
Underground Biosphere III with a nuclear reactor powering the big-ass
sunlamp? Now you'd probably need to be a nation-state actor prepping for
turning an asteroid into a starship, or at least for World War III.
You'd also have a heat dissipation problem. And guess what? The baddies
will now have the fun of finding and clogging your coolant intake pipes
and watching your bunker do a creditable imitation of Chernobyl.
Face it, k0Ok: the laws of physics basically forbid walling yourself off
completely from the outside world without either asphyxiating or cooking
yourself. There's no getting around it. Somewhere your bunker will have an
exploitable weak point. Call it Tarkin's Final Lesson.
*snicker*

Post by Checkmate

Post by Nadegda
If the government has turned bad, then I've lost the land anyway. Trying to
cling onto it would just cost me my freedom as well, or my life.

At my age, that's a hill I'm willing to die on.

Let Nadegda know where your sister lives and maybe she'll send flowers.
*snicker*

Post by Checkmate
Too many optimistic assumptions on your part. The Coast Guard will be
patrolling the sea, and you won't likely make it out of the Sound and it's
choke points, and then there's radar.

That assumes a fugitive hunt, rather than a spreading diaspora of refugees
in which the odds of any particular one being harassed are remote because
it's a target-rich environment.
Or did you think Nadegda would be the only one with a similar bug-out plan?
You also seem to be forgetting that the Coast Guard has not been very
effective at keeping Caribbean drug-runners from smuggling cocaine and
shit into southern states using very fast, low-to-the-water cigarette boats.
Not to mention Cuban and other refugees. Nadegda is clearly smart and
well-resourced enough to have obtained some similar mode of transportation.

Post by Checkmate
Do you even own a bote capable of what you're envisioning? A bote that
size better already be in the water and fully stocked. What kind of range
will you have to get out of dodge and find a safe shore to go to? In an
all out war the Pacific Islands will about as much fun as they were in
WWII. You'd freeze your ass off in the Aleutians, and probably meet some
real Comrades from Russia.

Those boats have the range to go from Mexico to Florida, so they can
certainly get from Puget Sound up the coast to Canada. Down to Mexico might
or might not also be an option.

Post by Checkmate

Post by Nadegda
So, at some point you foray out to score you some meth and bam! "They"
catch you away from your precious bunker. Oops.
<snicker>

WTF would I want with meth?

Yeah, I know enough chemistry to know that you'd probably be wanting
heroin instead.
Doesn't alter Nadegda's point materially, though.

Post by Checkmate
Insulin and pain meds would be my only concerns in that department,

You need insulin? Well, then, if civilization falls you're just plain
screwed, full stop.
*snicker*

*crickets*
Looks like he has no rebuttal to this at all.
*does a little victory dance*

Rebuttal to what? I didn't read anything here that I felt needed further
comment from me. I was discussing this topic with Nads, and your input
was of little interest to me.

It's a public newsgroup, not email. Other posters are bound to weigh in ...
and it looks like kensi spanked you but good!
<snicker>

No, she just wasted a lot of time with her k00kfr0th that I couldn't be
assed to respond to.
Oh... and you don't have a bote docked anywhere in the water that you
could survive on for your harebrained "survival" plan, but you do come up
with some fanciful bullshit.

kensi and the titanic , yay

[Skeeter]

Post by %

Post by Checkmate
Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
Checkmate.
On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 17:15:27 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say

Post by Nadegda
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

Post by Checkmate
Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
Checkmate.
On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 03:45:32 -0000 (UTC), kensi had the audacity to say the

Post by kensi

Post by kensi

Post by Checkmate
On Tue, 31 Aug 2021 22:46:14 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say

Post by Nadegda
This might help you against roving bandits. It won't help you against
government gone bad. They can send in a whole fucking army. You won't win
against them by shooting them one by one and deploying a few booby traps
at the road, especially when they will have ATVs, tanks, helicopters, and
planes. They could drop paratroopers behind your ass. Silently.

This is everybody's nightmare. Since it's not my nature to venture out
and start shit, I'm hoping they won't feel any need to come bother me.
They'll be busy enough dealing with the trouble makers.

You wouldn't have to venture out and start shit, ko0ky. You'd just have to
be in the way of something they wanted to do, or be sitting on something they
wanted.
Lots of people in 1930s Europe figured to just be silent and keep their nose
down. A not-inconsiderable fraction of them ended up expropriated or even
dead, sometimes just for having the "wrong" ethnic background.
And, of course, later you suggested you *would* venture out and start shit.
Involve yourself in illicit drug deals, no less.

Post by Checkmate
I won't go into details about my bunker arrangements, but the air vent
trick would probably not be very effective.

Bottled oxygen? It would take an awful lot of that to hold out for more
than a few hours.
Niosphere III? Would need a big glass roof, just begging for them to drop
a bomb on it.
Underground Biosphere III with a nuclear reactor powering the big-ass
sunlamp? Now you'd probably need to be a nation-state actor prepping for
turning an asteroid into a starship, or at least for World War III.
You'd also have a heat dissipation problem. And guess what? The baddies
will now have the fun of finding and clogging your coolant intake pipes
and watching your bunker do a creditable imitation of Chernobyl.
Face it, k0Ok: the laws of physics basically forbid walling yourself off
completely from the outside world without either asphyxiating or cooking
yourself. There's no getting around it. Somewhere your bunker will have an
exploitable weak point. Call it Tarkin's Final Lesson.
*snicker*

Post by Checkmate

Post by Nadegda
If the government has turned bad, then I've lost the land anyway. Trying to
cling onto it would just cost me my freedom as well, or my life.

At my age, that's a hill I'm willing to die on.

Let Nadegda know where your sister lives and maybe she'll send flowers.
*snicker*

Post by Checkmate
Too many optimistic assumptions on your part. The Coast Guard will be
patrolling the sea, and you won't likely make it out of the Sound and it's
choke points, and then there's radar.

That assumes a fugitive hunt, rather than a spreading diaspora of refugees
in which the odds of any particular one being harassed are remote because
it's a target-rich environment.
Or did you think Nadegda would be the only one with a similar bug-out plan?
You also seem to be forgetting that the Coast Guard has not been very
effective at keeping Caribbean drug-runners from smuggling cocaine and
shit into southern states using very fast, low-to-the-water cigarette boats.
Not to mention Cuban and other refugees. Nadegda is clearly smart and
well-resourced enough to have obtained some similar mode of transportation.

Post by Checkmate
Do you even own a bote capable of what you're envisioning? A bote that
size better already be in the water and fully stocked. What kind of range
will you have to get out of dodge and find a safe shore to go to? In an
all out war the Pacific Islands will about as much fun as they were in
WWII. You'd freeze your ass off in the Aleutians, and probably meet some
real Comrades from Russia.

Those boats have the range to go from Mexico to Florida, so they can
certainly get from Puget Sound up the coast to Canada. Down to Mexico might
or might not also be an option.

Post by Checkmate

Post by Nadegda
So, at some point you foray out to score you some meth and bam! "They"
catch you away from your precious bunker. Oops.
<snicker>

WTF would I want with meth?

Yeah, I know enough chemistry to know that you'd probably be wanting
heroin instead.
Doesn't alter Nadegda's point materially, though.

Post by Checkmate
Insulin and pain meds would be my only concerns in that department,

You need insulin? Well, then, if civilization falls you're just plain
screwed, full stop.
*snicker*

*crickets*
Looks like he has no rebuttal to this at all.
*does a little victory dance*

Rebuttal to what? I didn't read anything here that I felt needed further
comment from me. I was discussing this topic with Nads, and your input
was of little interest to me.

It's a public newsgroup, not email. Other posters are bound to weigh in ...
and it looks like kensi spanked you but good!
<snicker>

No, she just wasted a lot of time with her k00kfr0th that I couldn't be
assed to respond to.
Oh... and you don't have a bote docked anywhere in the water that you
could survive on for your harebrained "survival" plan, but you do come up
with some fanciful bullshit.

kensi and the titanic , yay

with his/her fat ass it IS the titanic

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

Post by Checkmate
Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
Checkmate.
On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 17:15:27 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say

Post by Nadegda
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

Post by Checkmate
Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
Checkmate.
On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 03:45:32 -0000 (UTC), kensi had the audacity to say the

Post by kensi

Post by kensi

Post by Checkmate
On Tue, 31 Aug 2021 22:46:14 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say

Post by Nadegda
This might help you against roving bandits. It won't help you against
government gone bad. They can send in a whole fucking army. You won't win
against them by shooting them one by one and deploying a few booby traps
at the road, especially when they will have ATVs, tanks, helicopters, and
planes. They could drop paratroopers behind your ass. Silently.

This is everybody's nightmare. Since it's not my nature to venture out
and start shit, I'm hoping they won't feel any need to come bother me.
They'll be busy enough dealing with the trouble makers.

You wouldn't have to venture out and start shit, ko0ky. You'd just have to
be in the way of something they wanted to do, or be sitting on something they
wanted.
Lots of people in 1930s Europe figured to just be silent and keep their nose
down. A not-inconsiderable fraction of them ended up expropriated or even
dead, sometimes just for having the "wrong" ethnic background.
And, of course, later you suggested you *would* venture out and start shit.
Involve yourself in illicit drug deals, no less.

Post by Checkmate
I won't go into details about my bunker arrangements, but the air vent
trick would probably not be very effective.

Bottled oxygen? It would take an awful lot of that to hold out for more
than a few hours.
Niosphere III? Would need a big glass roof, just begging for them to drop
a bomb on it.
Underground Biosphere III with a nuclear reactor powering the big-ass
sunlamp? Now you'd probably need to be a nation-state actor prepping for
turning an asteroid into a starship, or at least for World War III.
You'd also have a heat dissipation problem. And guess what? The baddies
will now have the fun of finding and clogging your coolant intake pipes
and watching your bunker do a creditable imitation of Chernobyl.
Face it, k0Ok: the laws of physics basically forbid walling yourself off
completely from the outside world without either asphyxiating or cooking
yourself. There's no getting around it. Somewhere your bunker will have an
exploitable weak point. Call it Tarkin's Final Lesson.
*snicker*

Post by Checkmate

Post by Nadegda
If the government has turned bad, then I've lost the land anyway. Trying to
cling onto it would just cost me my freedom as well, or my life.

At my age, that's a hill I'm willing to die on.

Let Nadegda know where your sister lives and maybe she'll send flowers.
*snicker*

Post by Checkmate
Too many optimistic assumptions on your part. The Coast Guard will be
patrolling the sea, and you won't likely make it out of the Sound and it's
choke points, and then there's radar.

That assumes a fugitive hunt, rather than a spreading diaspora of refugees
in which the odds of any particular one being harassed are remote because
it's a target-rich environment.
Or did you think Nadegda would be the only one with a similar bug-out plan?
You also seem to be forgetting that the Coast Guard has not been very
effective at keeping Caribbean drug-runners from smuggling cocaine and
shit into southern states using very fast, low-to-the-water cigarette boats.
Not to mention Cuban and other refugees. Nadegda is clearly smart and
well-resourced enough to have obtained some similar mode of transportation.

Post by Checkmate
Do you even own a bote capable of what you're envisioning? A bote that
size better already be in the water and fully stocked. What kind of range
will you have to get out of dodge and find a safe shore to go to? In an
all out war the Pacific Islands will about as much fun as they were in
WWII. You'd freeze your ass off in the Aleutians, and probably meet some
real Comrades from Russia.

Those boats have the range to go from Mexico to Florida, so they can
certainly get from Puget Sound up the coast to Canada. Down to Mexico might
or might not also be an option.

Post by Checkmate

Post by Nadegda
So, at some point you foray out to score you some meth and bam! "They"
catch you away from your precious bunker. Oops.
<snicker>

WTF would I want with meth?

Yeah, I know enough chemistry to know that you'd probably be wanting
heroin instead.
Doesn't alter Nadegda's point materially, though.

Post by Checkmate
Insulin and pain meds would be my only concerns in that department,

You need insulin? Well, then, if civilization falls you're just plain
screwed, full stop.
*snicker*

*crickets*
Looks like he has no rebuttal to this at all.
*does a little victory dance*

Rebuttal to what? I didn't read anything here that I felt needed further
comment from me. I was discussing this topic with Nads, and your input
was of little interest to me.

It's a public newsgroup, not email. Other posters are bound to weigh in ...
and it looks like kensi spanked you but good!
<snicker>

No, she just wasted a lot of time with her k00kfr0th that I couldn't be
assed to respond to.

That sentence gives off the distinct odor of kook kowardice.

<snicker>

Post by Checkmate
Oh... and you don't have a bote docked anywhere in the water that you
could survive on for your harebrained "survival" plan, but you do come up
with some fanciful bullshit.

Proof, kook?

(And now you run some more, with your tail between your legs.)

[Sn!pe]

Post by Nadegda
Proof, kook?
(And now you run some more, with your tail between your legs.)

Risible.

[kensi]

Post by Nadegda
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

Warning! Always make ANSI approved safety giggles when reading drivel by
Checkmate.
On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 17:15:27 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say

Post by Nadegda
It's a public newsgroup, not email. Other posters are bound to weigh in ...
and it looks like kensi spanked you but good!
<snicker>

No, she just wasted a lot of time with her k00kfr0th that I couldn't be
assed to respond to.

That sentence gives off the distinct odor of kook kowardice.
<snicker>

Pee-yew, I can smell it all the way from Helsinki!

*snicker*

Post by Nadegda

Oh... and you don't have a bote docked anywhere in the water that you
could survive on for your harebrained "survival" plan, but you do come up
with some fanciful bullshit.

Proof, kook?
(And now you run some more, with your tail between your legs.)

I bet running from his usenet spanks is the only exercise the old codger
gets anymore.

*snicker*

[Checkmate]

Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
Checkmate.

On Fri, 3 Sep 2021 02:28:03 -0000 (UTC), kensi had the audacity to say the

Post by kensi

Post by Nadegda
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

Warning! Always make ANSI approved safety giggles when reading drivel by
Checkmate.
On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 17:15:27 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say

Post by Nadegda
It's a public newsgroup, not email. Other posters are bound to weigh in ...
and it looks like kensi spanked you but good!
<snicker>

No, she just wasted a lot of time with her k00kfr0th that I couldn't be
assed to respond to.

That sentence gives off the distinct odor of kook kowardice.
<snicker>

Pee-yew, I can smell it all the way from Helsinki!
*snicker*

Post by Nadegda

Oh... and you don't have a bote docked anywhere in the water that you
could survive on for your harebrained "survival" plan, but you do come up
with some fanciful bullshit.

Proof, kook?
(And now you run some more, with your tail between your legs.)

I bet running from his usenet spanks is the only exercise the old codger
gets anymore.

You couldn't even spank your own munky.
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***************************************************
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***************************************************

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Co-winner Pierre Salinger Hook, Line & Sinker
award May 2001, (Brethern of Beelzebub troll)
Pierre Salinger Hook, Line & Sinker award, Feb 2012

Author, Humorist, Cynic
Philosopher, Humanitarian
Poet, Elektrishun to the Stars
Usenet Shot-Caller

In loving memory of The Battle Kitten
May 2010-February 12, 2017

[Checkmate]

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Checkmate.

On Thu, 02 Sep 2021 22:37:50 -0500, ??????????Jen??????????

headers!

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Footloose! http://youtu.be/mXfVaXjBFK4

***************************************************
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kensi." -Nadegda
Message-ID: <pbg8ne$p9k$***@dont-email.me>
***************************************************

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Destroyer of the AUK Ko0k Awards (Post-Burnore)
Co-winner Pierre Salinger Hook, Line & Sinker
award May 2001, (Brethern of Beelzebub troll)
Pierre Salinger Hook, Line & Sinker award, Feb 2012

Author, Humorist, Cynic
Philosopher, Humanitarian
Poet, Elektrishun to the Stars
Usenet Shot-Caller

In loving memory of The Battle Kitten
May 2010-February 12, 2017

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

Post by kensi

Post by Nadegda
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

Warning! Always make ANSI approved safety giggles when reading drivel by
Checkmate.
On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 17:15:27 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to say

Post by Nadegda
It's a public newsgroup, not email. Other posters are bound to weigh in ...
and it looks like kensi spanked you but good!
<snicker>

No, she just wasted a lot of time with her k00kfr0th that I couldn't be
assed to respond to.

That sentence gives off the distinct odor of kook kowardice.
<snicker>

Pee-yew, I can smell it all the way from Helsinki!
*snicker*

Post by Nadegda

Oh... and you don't have a bote docked anywhere in the water that you
could survive on for your harebrained "survival" plan, but you do come up
with some fanciful bullshit.

Proof, kook?
(And now you run some more, with your tail between your legs.)

I bet running from his usenet spanks is the only exercise the old codger
gets anymore.
*snicker*

Nah, he also regularly does the Neck Crick, the Xanax Bottle Lift, and of
course long sessions of finger exercises that produce lengthy kookrants on
Usenet.

<snicker>

[kensi]

Post by Nadegda
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

Post by kensi

Post by Nadegda
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

Warning! Always make ANSI approved safety giggles when reading drivel by
Checkmate.
Oh... and you don't have a bote docked anywhere in the water that you
could survive on for your harebrained "survival" plan, but you do come up
with some fanciful bullshit.

Proof, kook?
(And now you run some more, with your tail between your legs.)

I bet running from his usenet spanks is the only exercise the old codger
gets anymore.
*snicker*

Nah, he also regularly does the Neck Crick, the Xanax Bottle Lift, and of
course long sessions of finger exercises that produce lengthy kookrants on
Usenet.
<snicker>

LOL!

[%]

Post by Nadegda
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

Post by kensi

Post by Nadegda
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

Warning! Always make ANSI approved safety giggles when reading drivel by
Checkmate.
Oh... and you don't have a bote docked anywhere in the water that you
could survive on for your harebrained "survival" plan, but you do come up
with some fanciful bullshit.

Proof, kook?
(And now you run some more, with your tail between your legs.)

I bet running from his usenet spanks is the only exercise the old codger
gets anymore.
*snicker*

Nah, he also regularly does the Neck Crick, the Xanax Bottle Lift, and of
course long sessions of finger exercises that produce lengthy kookrants on
Usenet.
<snicker>

LOL!

isn't it odd how we lower our lifestyles to support our addictions

[Checkmate]

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Checkmate.

On Sat, 4 Sep 2021 02:28:04 -0000 (UTC), kensi had the audacity to say the

Post by Nadegda
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

Post by kensi

Post by Nadegda
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

Warning! Always make ANSI approved safety giggles when reading drivel by
Checkmate.
Oh... and you don't have a bote docked anywhere in the water that you
could survive on for your harebrained "survival" plan, but you do come up
with some fanciful bullshit.

Proof, kook?
(And now you run some more, with your tail between your legs.)

I bet running from his usenet spanks is the only exercise the old codger
gets anymore.
*snicker*

Nah, he also regularly does the Neck Crick, the Xanax Bottle Lift, and of
course long sessions of finger exercises that produce lengthy kookrants on
Usenet.
<snicker>

LOL <slurp>!

Wipe yer fuckin chin, FFS...
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all rights reserved

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***************************************************
"I am the author of nearly as much kook butthurt as
kensi." -Nadegda
Message-ID: <pbg8ne$p9k$***@dont-email.me>
***************************************************

AUK Hammer of Thor award, Feb. 2012 (Pre-Burnore)
Destroyer of the AUK Ko0k Awards (Post-Burnore)
Co-winner Pierre Salinger Hook, Line & Sinker
award May 2001, (Brethern of Beelzebub troll)
Pierre Salinger Hook, Line & Sinker award, Feb 2012

Author, Humorist, Cynic
Philosopher, Humanitarian
Poet, Elektrishun to the Stars
Usenet Shot-Caller

In loving memory of The Battle Kitten
May 2010-February 12, 2017

[Peeler's Saggy Shorts]

Post by Checkmate
Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts
by Checkmate.
On Sat, 28 Aug 2021 20:26:30 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda had the audacity to

Post by Nadegda
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/us-dollar-crash-high-c
hance-double-dip-recession-roach-2020-9
----------
He said on Wednesday that he expected the collapse to happen by the
end of 2021, but he did not say by how much.
----------
Of course, the article vastly understates the severity of the coming
crash. When the dust settles, this guy will seem to have been a
starry-eyed optimist.

Guess what? The entire world's fiat economies are all going to crash.
You act as if this is the first time you've heard about it. Where
are you storing YOUR actual wealth... in a bank?

Adding interested groups.

[Peeler's Saggy Shorts]

Post by Nadegda
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/us-dollar-crash-high-ch
ance-double-dip-recession-roach-2020-9
----------
He said o

Adding interested groups.

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

On Sat, 28 Aug 2021 20:26:30 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda

Post by Nadegda
https://markets.businessinsider.com/news/stocks/us-dollar-crash-high-chance-double-dip-recession-roach-2020-9
----------
He said on Wednesday that he expected the collapse to happen by the end
of 2021, but he did not say by how much.
----------
Of course, the article vastly understates the severity of the coming crash.
When the dust settles, this guy will seem to have been a starry-eyed
optimist.

It's OK, Biden will be right on top of it!

LOL

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On Wed, 1 Sep 2021 13:31:11 -0700, LO AND BEHOLD; The Pathetic
Anti-Muslim Wannabe Homegrown Terrorist who is too cowardly to reply to
me anymore and is cowering in his boogaloo-boi bunker Posting as "💩
<***@gmail.com>" determined that the following was of great
importance and subsequently decided to freely share it with us in
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trials bikes don't have seats. street trials bikes do, tho.

just wondering which bike steve w is obsessed with. i have about 2 dozen of them.

did you guys mention to him that no matter what he tries to stick on me it's gonna slide right off and get him into legal trouble? his daughters won't appreciate that, i hear that they were hoping to live off of the daddy-diddler book money if they weren't successful at gold-digging.

you should ask art deco about how glomming onto an AUK dogpile affected his life negatively.

or better yet, carl W... jay et al kinda fucked him over, innit?

;)

HTH

HAND

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