Yep.But the Bible was written by men too........How conveniant to say that woman is just a companion..... meaning she's just for the pleasure and nothing else. Hmmmm....
Fun we gotPanos
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ÈÝìá: Re: [jOrgan-user] OT. PROPOSAL: "jOrgan Consoles" & "jOrgan Dispositions" module abstractions separation WAS: [QUESTION/PROP] FluidSynth costumizer tab
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Çìåñïìçíßá: ÐÝìðôç, 21 Áðñßëéïò 2011, 23:04
Hi, Panos,
I've always understood that "woman" is a contraction of "woe of man".
According to the Bible, the first woman was only created as a companion for the first man. All she actually did in that role was get him into trouble, thus creating a precedent which has survived unchanged down the ages!
Have fun,
Roy.
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Subject: Re: [jOrgan-user] OT. PROPOSAL: "jOrgan Consoles" & "jOrgan Dispositions" module abstractions separation WAS: [QUESTION/PROP] FluidSynth costumizer tab
To: jorgan-***@lists.sourceforge.net
Date: Thursday, 21 April, 2011, 23:54
Not right I'm afraid.
We use to say man for every person male or female, as these terms come from ancient times where women were "res" in latin= thing, object and not considered as persons.It was a man's (=male) world , so many terms and idioms
have male names.
I always use he/she in english, for this reason and as I use to it as a lawer...
In greek language we don't use man for person, but a word very much close to "human" = this too in english has the "man" element....In greek the word is "ÁÍÈÑÙÐÏÓ" witch exactly translates as "the one who looks up".Meaning that humans always looked to the sky to see God.
So, our grammar at 60's was wrong, as were all political systems then and more wrong the women's rights ! Ah, you see? : wo-man, there's the male in here ! is not a man is a wo man. Now does anybody know what "wo" means?Something inferior to man (male)? something
better? (I doubt...)
Women's dominion came to an end when Druides (male) sent away woman priests of the Big Godess and took the lead. Also we left today with man followers/students of Jesus, what happened to those women following Him? And why Mary the Magdalene was recognised hundreds of years later, as it is known She was the best student of Jesus?We owe to pay our respect to the womankind for all those dark centuries IMHO.
Ok I stop here, as this can go far away and totaly outside this topic.
Hmmm, Sven I'm about to propose that faint idea of jOrgan-life, as a real everyday topic here. I think is good for many of us !
Best to allPanos
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ÈÝìá: Re:
[jOrgan-user] OT.
PROPOSAL: "jOrgan Consoles" & "jOrgan Dispositions" module abstractions separation WAS: [QUESTION/PROP] FluidSynth costumizer tab
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Çìåñïìçíßá: ÐÝìðôç, 21 Áðñßëéïò 2011, 20:03
Absolutely right! For example, "If God had wanted man to fly He would have
given him wings." "Man," in this case, refers to humankind, male or
female. "Him" is the objective pronoun that, in this case, is applicable to
women as part of humankind as well. The "politically correct" crowd have
done little but confuse understanding by a distinct lack of precision in
communication based on traditional definition. As a trained linguist, I
find this particularly distasteful. It is difficult enough to deal with the
idiomatic expressions which are unique to languages and need to be
translated, to say
nothing of the contemporary nuances of meaning that have
been co-opted by the liberals in re-definitions and which leave us all in a
state of utter confusion. Implication and inference are difficult and
varied enough without adding a third dimension of ethereal supposition.
So much for the "egg" and "Mother God."
John B.
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From: Lynn Walls
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 2:53 PM
To: jorgan-***@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [jOrgan-user] OT. PROPOSAL: "jOrgan Consoles" & "jOrgan
Dispositions" module abstractions separation WAS: [QUESTION/PROP] FluidSynth
costumizer tab
Roy,
I attended grammar school in the 1960s. There we learned that the personal
pronouns "he"
and "him" and suffix "-man" stood for BOTH male
and female whenever a
general
(non-specific) person was being referenced. This definition has always been
good enough
for me, and I have never bought into the extremely awkward "he/she",
"him/her", "-person"
terminology. Those constructs do not add any meaning to the dialog, and
only serve to
appease the "politically correct" crowd.
CLW
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Post by Roy Radford"I'm not sayin' she as we don't have any lady dispo creator... yet)."
...Come to think of it, do we have any ladies here at all?
Have fun,
Roy.
Subject: Re: [jOrgan-user] PROPOSAL: "jOrgan Consoles" & "jOrgan
Post by Roy RadfordDispositions" module
abstractions separation WAS: [QUESTION/PROP] FluidSynth costumizer tab
Date: Thursday, 21 April, 2011, 19:27
I agree with Lynn.
Do not expect jOrgan (and any app) do anything in auto mode and us do
nothing exept
just download and install.
jOrgan is not for pipe organs only. Remember my piano/strings dispo.
There's a
hold
Post by Roy Radford stop like the ones found on synths.
I use jorgan to control big samplers with any type of instrument
loaded in 16 channels
at least.
Matt was right that there are users with 4:3 screens and is hard for
them when a dispo
creator releases for 16:9. Two screen versions by the creator is the
solution, not in
software. As 4xsound drivers versions (aka Direct, Asio, Jack, WDMKS).
And creating Xmanual versions too, aka 1m, 1m/p, 2m, 2m/p ect
depending on the organ,
or even the synthesizer (!) yes. I got one dispo with two keybords for
conrollers, one
for an 88 piano type , engaging piano,rhodes,CP80,Clavinet ect and the
other for a
61keys synth type engaging OB8, Moog, Prophet5 ect stops on console.
Configuration wizard is very good as it is IMHO, it's up to the
disposition creator to
work harder to cover as many users' needs as he can (I'm not sayin'
she as we don't
have any lady dispo creator... yet).
As time goes by and we know each other better, more or less we know
how our physical
consoles are, add to that this jOrgan-life-pictures topics (gooood!),
so dispositions
can be this way for work for the most of us.
A data base of "Registered Users Physical consoles and/or kbd
controllers" would be
very useful I'm
thinkin', so I would know for whom I'm gonna make
Post by Roy Radfordthings.
Example who to refuse Marco a Ped to Grt coupler with monophonic bass
?
Since I know he will love it and use it in Church !!
Or someone with a 3man console that he/she needs some stops for the
3rd man and
he/she's got a two man dispo.
Private e-mails are good for this. Why not ask ? Is it possible to?
Then it's up to
the creator if he will, as time and obligations permits. Seems like an
after sales
concept, I know, but here we're a kinda familly, or community.
Remember, Erik wanted a multi out Oberhausbergen. Yeah, good idea,
many others would
beneffit from, but, I didn't know how to do it, he did, I uploaded
Post by Roy Radfordthis alternate
version and so on.
My point is we can work together in some level and cannot expect
everything from Sven.
Ah, some good news. Hauptwerk 4 is released and guess what : it has a
midi recorder in
it..... he he, jOrgan has it for sooooo long, also F11 full screen
(now?) and Midi out
for all versions :-) and some customizing features......
Beyond jokes, HW4 is powerfull but all the above proves that jOrgan
leads the way in
some extremelly useful features.
Best
Panos
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Yes...my two-layer (disposition file/config file) solution is
essentially intended
to help
the disposition developer --- NOT the end user. There would have
to be a .config file
tailored to each unique disposition. That is necessary because
each disposition would
potentially have a different number of keyboards, a different
number of swells, and a
different number of stops, couplers, trems and any other switches.
It would not be
feasible to define all these objects with any sort of "standard"
Post by Roy Radfordnomenclature.
Just for
example, the manuals in classical/church organ terminology are
named completely
differently than those of a theatre organ. And even within each of
those classes
of organ
the nomenclature often varies. And what about harpsichords, and
electronic synth rigs
(like Roy's) and other variants of keyboards and sound sources
that jOrgan can
potentially
support? Don't assume that jOrgan is only only for pipe organs. So
don't try
to
Post by Roy Radford come up
just leave it up
to the
disposition developer to name those input and output devices in
the most
meaningful way so
that when the Configuration WIZARD presents those names to the end
user, that end
user
will know what physical device needs to be connected to that name.
It is the robustness of the WIZARD that will help the "lazy" end
user -- NOT the
layered
disposition/config file architecture.
Post by Roy Radford You'll never get anywhere with trying to make it simpler for the
end user that a good
configuration WIZARD. Face it: at a MINIMUM, the end user will
HAVE to understand his
MIDI hardware, and he will HAVE to go through a configuration
process at least
ONCE per
different organ definition disposition. Even Hauptwerk does not
make it simpler than
this! In fact, Hauptwerk's configuration wizard could probably be
used as a
functional
model if Sven wanted to enhance the jOrgan wizard to be
able to
Post by Roy Radfordauto-detect the
scope,
channel and device of every keyboard and continuous controller
(swell).
Any user who wants to be "lazier" than this probably does not
deserve much
consideration
from this forum. If Sven were trying to make money from selling
jOrgan licenses,
he might
be inclined to bend-over-backwards for the ultra-lazy dummy. But
given the monetary
compensation involved, I would be surprised if any serious help
would be
forthcoming for
any end user who is unwilling to work through a configuration
Post by Roy Radfordwizard at least once
for
each distinct disposition that he wants to use.
CLW
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