Discussion:
Of course he is a racist
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Tony
2020-03-03 02:07:41 UTC
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https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2020/03/03/1064776/jones-attacks-on-indian-students-a-timely-reminder
Xenophobic and a blatant attempt to get votes from the minority who are the
same.
Rich80105
2020-03-03 02:56:29 UTC
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On Mon, 02 Mar 2020 20:07:41 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2020/03/03/1064776/jones-attacks-on-indian-students-a-timely-reminder
Xenophobic and a blatant attempt to get votes from the minority who are the
same.
You will agree with this then:
https://thestandard.org.nz/the-trouble-with-mmp/

I suspect another reason for the blatant pandering to prejudice - the
so-called "populist" statements may well be a deliberate campaign to
ensure that some of National's more extreme supporters switch to NZ
First. After all, it seems to work for Trump . . .
Tony
2020-03-03 03:44:11 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 02 Mar 2020 20:07:41 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2020/03/03/1064776/jones-attacks-on-indian-students-a-timely-reminder
Xenophobic and a blatant attempt to get votes from the minority who are the
same.
https://thestandard.org.nz/the-trouble-with-mmp/
Unlikely but I can't be bothered tp read it.
Post by Rich80105
I suspect another reason for the blatant pandering to prejudice - the
so-called "populist" statements may well be a deliberate campaign to
ensure that some of National's more extreme supporters switch to NZ
First. After all, it seems to work for Trump . . .
Irrelevant.
Jones is a racist.
Rich80105
2020-03-03 04:40:09 UTC
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On Mon, 02 Mar 2020 21:44:11 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 02 Mar 2020 20:07:41 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2020/03/03/1064776/jones-attacks-on-indian-students-a-timely-reminder
Xenophobic and a blatant attempt to get votes from the minority who are the
same.
https://thestandard.org.nz/the-trouble-with-mmp/
Unlikely but I can't be bothered tp read it.
There were a few longer words there, Tony. Just nurse your prejudices;
I'm sure that will be easier for you than trying to comprehend
anything not from between your own ears . . .
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
I suspect another reason for the blatant pandering to prejudice - the
so-called "populist" statements may well be a deliberate campaign to
ensure that some of National's more extreme supporters switch to NZ
First. After all, it seems to work for Trump . . .
Irrelevant.
Jones is a racist.
Gordon
2020-03-03 05:41:11 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 02 Mar 2020 21:44:11 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 02 Mar 2020 20:07:41 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2020/03/03/1064776/jones-attacks-on-indian-students-a-timely-reminder
Xenophobic and a blatant attempt to get votes from the minority who are the
same.
https://thestandard.org.nz/the-trouble-with-mmp/
Unlikely but I can't be bothered tp read it.
There were a few longer words there, Tony. Just nurse your prejudices;
I'm sure that will be easier for you than trying to comprehend
anything not from between your own ears . . .
Tiresome award for the month goes to Rich.
Tony
2020-03-03 05:53:10 UTC
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Post by Gordon
Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 02 Mar 2020 21:44:11 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 02 Mar 2020 20:07:41 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2020/03/03/1064776/jones-attacks-on-indian-students-a-timely-reminder
Xenophobic and a blatant attempt to get votes from the minority who are the
same.
https://thestandard.org.nz/the-trouble-with-mmp/
Unlikely but I can't be bothered tp read it.
There were a few longer words there, Tony. Just nurse your prejudices;
I'm sure that will be easier for you than trying to comprehend
anything not from between your own ears . . .
Tiresome award for the month goes to Rich.
Anyubody can be tiresome, only Rich can be idiotic.
Crash
2020-03-03 07:39:31 UTC
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On Mon, 02 Mar 2020 23:53:10 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Gordon
Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 02 Mar 2020 21:44:11 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 02 Mar 2020 20:07:41 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2020/03/03/1064776/jones-attacks-on-indian-students-a-timely-reminder
Xenophobic and a blatant attempt to get votes from the minority who are the
same.
https://thestandard.org.nz/the-trouble-with-mmp/
Unlikely but I can't be bothered tp read it.
There were a few longer words there, Tony. Just nurse your prejudices;
I'm sure that will be easier for you than trying to comprehend
anything not from between your own ears . . .
Tiresome award for the month goes to Rich.
Anyubody can be tiresome, only Rich can be idiotic.
I am very reluctant to use such words against any poster, but Rich is
reaching new lows of resorting to illogical and indefensible rhetoric
against National.

Rich has been posting here for over a decade now. His posts 10 years
ago were so more focused on making cogent points supporting Labour
then, that it is reasonable to suspect that the Rich back then is not
the same person as the Rich of today.




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Tony
2020-03-03 19:39:09 UTC
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Post by Crash
On Mon, 02 Mar 2020 23:53:10 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Gordon
Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 02 Mar 2020 21:44:11 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 02 Mar 2020 20:07:41 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2020/03/03/1064776/jones-attacks-on-indian-students-a-timely-reminder
Xenophobic and a blatant attempt to get votes from the minority who are the
same.
https://thestandard.org.nz/the-trouble-with-mmp/
Unlikely but I can't be bothered tp read it.
There were a few longer words there, Tony. Just nurse your prejudices;
I'm sure that will be easier for you than trying to comprehend
anything not from between your own ears . . .
Tiresome award for the month goes to Rich.
Anyubody can be tiresome, only Rich can be idiotic.
I am very reluctant to use such words against any poster, but Rich is
reaching new lows of resorting to illogical and indefensible rhetoric
against National.
Rich has been posting here for over a decade now. His posts 10 years
ago were so more focused on making cogent points supporting Labour
then, that it is reasonable to suspect that the Rich back then is not
the same person as the Rich of today.
That has been suggested by others over the years, I have not been convinced.
But I am now beginning to wonder.
Post by Crash
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Rich80105
2020-03-04 03:01:05 UTC
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On Tue, 03 Mar 2020 13:39:09 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Crash
On Mon, 02 Mar 2020 23:53:10 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Gordon
Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 02 Mar 2020 21:44:11 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 02 Mar 2020 20:07:41 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2020/03/03/1064776/jones-attacks-on-indian-students-a-timely-reminder
Xenophobic and a blatant attempt to get votes from the minority who are the
same.
https://thestandard.org.nz/the-trouble-with-mmp/
Unlikely but I can't be bothered tp read it.
There were a few longer words there, Tony. Just nurse your prejudices;
I'm sure that will be easier for you than trying to comprehend
anything not from between your own ears . . .
Tiresome award for the month goes to Rich.
Anyubody can be tiresome, only Rich can be idiotic.
I am very reluctant to use such words against any poster, but Rich is
reaching new lows of resorting to illogical and indefensible rhetoric
against National.
Rich has been posting here for over a decade now. His posts 10 years
ago were so more focused on making cogent points supporting Labour
then, that it is reasonable to suspect that the Rich back then is not
the same person as the Rich of today.
That has been suggested by others over the years, I have not been convinced.
But I am now beginning to wonder.
Post by Crash
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Crash McBash
Can't be bothered to read a link that supports your assertion, then a
diversion from the topic to gratuitous personal insults - such
behaviour usually indicates that you realise that you were wrong,
Tony. Based on your history I do not expect an apology.
Tony
2020-03-04 03:07:23 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
On Tue, 03 Mar 2020 13:39:09 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Crash
On Mon, 02 Mar 2020 23:53:10 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Gordon
Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 02 Mar 2020 21:44:11 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 02 Mar 2020 20:07:41 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2020/03/03/1064776/jones-attacks-on-indian-students-a-timely-reminder
Xenophobic and a blatant attempt to get votes from the minority who
are
the
same.
https://thestandard.org.nz/the-trouble-with-mmp/
Unlikely but I can't be bothered tp read it.
There were a few longer words there, Tony. Just nurse your prejudices;
I'm sure that will be easier for you than trying to comprehend
anything not from between your own ears . . .
Tiresome award for the month goes to Rich.
Anyubody can be tiresome, only Rich can be idiotic.
I am very reluctant to use such words against any poster, but Rich is
reaching new lows of resorting to illogical and indefensible rhetoric
against National.
Rich has been posting here for over a decade now. His posts 10 years
ago were so more focused on making cogent points supporting Labour
then, that it is reasonable to suspect that the Rich back then is not
the same person as the Rich of today.
That has been suggested by others over the years, I have not been convinced.
But I am now beginning to wonder.
Post by Crash
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Crash McBash
Can't be bothered to read a link that supports your assertion, then a
diversion from the topic to gratuitous personal insults - such
behaviour usually indicates that you realise that you were wrong,
Tony. Based on your history I do not expect an apology.
You are lying. Period.
You are one of the following -
1. Some other person using the same name as someone that used to post
reasonably years ago
or
2. The same person with a personality disorder
Fact - you or your previous existence have always been the first to be abusive
You cannot provide any evidence to the contrary.
I genuinely feel sorry for you, you need help.
Tony
2020-03-03 05:52:29 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 02 Mar 2020 21:44:11 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 02 Mar 2020 20:07:41 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2020/03/03/1064776/jones-attacks-on-indian-students-a-timely-reminder
Xenophobic and a blatant attempt to get votes from the minority who are the
same.
https://thestandard.org.nz/the-trouble-with-mmp/
Unlikely but I can't be bothered tp read it.
There were a few longer words there, Tony. Just nurse your prejudices;
I'm sure that will be easier for you than trying to comprehend
anything not from between your own ears . . .
Jones is a racist. Period. Live with it and weep.
Post by Rich80105
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
I suspect another reason for the blatant pandering to prejudice - the
so-called "populist" statements may well be a deliberate campaign to
ensure that some of National's more extreme supporters switch to NZ
First. After all, it seems to work for Trump . . .
Irrelevant.
Jones is a racist.
JohnO
2020-03-03 06:27:05 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 02 Mar 2020 21:44:11 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 02 Mar 2020 20:07:41 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2020/03/03/1064776/jones-attacks-on-indian-students-a-timely-reminder
Xenophobic and a blatant attempt to get votes from the minority who are the
same.
https://thestandard.org.nz/the-trouble-with-mmp/
Unlikely but I can't be bothered tp read it.
There were a few longer words there, Tony. Just nurse your prejudices;
I'm sure that will be easier for you than trying to comprehend
anything not from between your own ears . . .
Post by Tony
Post by Rich80105
I suspect another reason for the blatant pandering to prejudice - the
so-called "populist" statements may well be a deliberate campaign to
ensure that some of National's more extreme supporters switch to NZ
First. After all, it seems to work for Trump . . .
Irrelevant.
Jones is a racist.
Indisputably so. enabled, aided and abetted by Ardern. That's why Dickbot is desperately attempting to divert the thread into something else.
John Bowes
2020-03-04 20:46:27 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 02 Mar 2020 20:07:41 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
Post by Tony
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2020/03/03/1064776/jones-attacks-on-indian-students-a-timely-reminder
Xenophobic and a blatant attempt to get votes from the minority who are the
same.
https://thestandard.org.nz/the-trouble-with-mmp/
I suspect another reason for the blatant pandering to prejudice - the
so-called "populist" statements may well be a deliberate campaign to
ensure that some of National's more extreme supporters switch to NZ
First. After all, it seems to work for Trump . . .
So speaks the Maid of Orleans. Funny how effective his Labour good, National bad matra is :)
James Christophers
2020-03-03 05:30:50 UTC
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Post by Tony
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2020/03/03/1064776/jones-attacks-on-indian-students-a-timely-reminder
Xenophobic and a blatant attempt to get votes from the minority who are the
same.
So far, the massed recreational wringing of hands has been about Jones' indiscretion. But an actual statement describing the nature of the "ruination" he alleges seems to be missing - as is any commentary suggesting that, any possible (alleged) racism apart, there may actually **be** a "ruination" problem that must be addressed.

I have no time whatever for Jones, but this looks like another instance where easy targeting of a controversial messenger is simply too tempting to resist, whereas the message itself is quietly slipped under counter and into the "embarrassing truths" basket - to continue silently festering and corrupting unseen and un-queried...until...
Rich80105
2020-03-03 06:05:02 UTC
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On Mon, 2 Mar 2020 21:30:50 -0800 (PST), James Christophers
Post by James Christophers
Post by Tony
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2020/03/03/1064776/jones-attacks-on-indian-students-a-timely-reminder
Xenophobic and a blatant attempt to get votes from the minority who are the
same.
So far, the massed recreational wringing of hands has been about Jones' indiscretion. But an actual statement describing the nature of the "ruination" he alleges seems to be missing - as is any commentary suggesting that, any possible (alleged) racism apart, there may actually **be** a "ruination" problem that must be addressed.
I have no time whatever for Jones, but this looks like another instance where easy targeting of a controversial messenger is simply too tempting to resist, whereas the message itself is quietly slipped under counter and into the "embarrassing truths" basket - to continue silently festering and corrupting unseen and un-queried...until...
The link to an article on The Standard that I posted in another part
of this thread leads through one of the comments to:
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2020/03/03/1058846/nz-immigration-policy-on-a-pathway-to-dubai


It is all very well for staff at the University of Otago to defend
what they have been doing, but the damage was largely done by
education providers that ripped off students who had already been
ripped off by ïmmigratin advisers, ripped off by employers who
'helped' them pay for getting here and for providing them with the
ability to pay that money back . . ., lax immigration policy, lax
supervision of that policy, and inadequate policing of labour laws.

Thankfully some of the more egregious offernders were found out - some
of the education providers by better supervision of certificate
courses - and some of those providers rightly went bust. Butthe real
victomes were the Indian students - and immigrants from other
countries, but it seems the Indian immigration advisers; some in India
and some in New Zealand, were the major exploiters of young people.

So far from the Indian students wrecking our academic institutions, it
was the then New Zealand Government that allowed near unfettered
exploitation by private companies who put profit ahead of everything
else, including overseas students.
Tony
2020-03-03 19:36:52 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 2 Mar 2020 21:30:50 -0800 (PST), James Christophers
Post by James Christophers
Post by Tony
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2020/03/03/1064776/jones-attacks-on-indian-students-a-timely-reminder
Xenophobic and a blatant attempt to get votes from the minority who are the
same.
So far, the massed recreational wringing of hands has been about Jones'
indiscretion. But an actual statement describing the nature of the "ruination"
he alleges seems to be missing - as is any commentary suggesting that, any
possible (alleged) racism apart, there may actually **be** a "ruination"
problem that must be addressed.
I have no time whatever for Jones, but this looks like another instance where
easy targeting of a controversial messenger is simply too tempting to resist,
whereas the message itself is quietly slipped under counter and into the
"embarrassing truths" basket - to continue silently festering and corrupting
unseen and un-queried...until...
The link to an article on The Standard that I posted in another part
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2020/03/03/1058846/nz-immigration-policy-on-a-pathway-to-dubai
It is all very well for staff at the University of Otago to defend
what they have been doing, but the damage was largely done by
education providers that ripped off students who had already been
ripped off by ïmmigratin advisers, ripped off by employers who
'helped' them pay for getting here and for providing them with the
ability to pay that money back . . ., lax immigration policy, lax
supervision of that policy, and inadequate policing of labour laws.
Thankfully some of the more egregious offernders were found out - some
of the education providers by better supervision of certificate
courses - and some of those providers rightly went bust. Butthe real
victomes were the Indian students - and immigrants from other
countries, but it seems the Indian immigration advisers; some in India
and some in New Zealand, were the major exploiters of young people.
So far from the Indian students wrecking our academic institutions, it
was the then New Zealand Government that allowed near unfettered
exploitation by private companies who put profit ahead of everything
else, including overseas students.
Irrelevant. Jones is a racist, simply true.
JohnO
2020-03-03 06:28:35 UTC
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Post by James Christophers
Post by Tony
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2020/03/03/1064776/jones-attacks-on-indian-students-a-timely-reminder
Xenophobic and a blatant attempt to get votes from the minority who are the
same.
So far, the massed recreational wringing of hands has been about Jones' indiscretion. But an actual statement describing the nature of the "ruination" he alleges seems to be missing - as is any commentary suggesting that, any possible (alleged) racism apart, there may actually **be** a "ruination" problem that must be addressed.
I have no time whatever for Jones, but this looks like another instance where easy targeting of a controversial messenger is simply too tempting to resist, whereas the message itself is quietly slipped under counter and into the "embarrassing truths" basket - to continue silently festering and corrupting unseen and un-queried...until...
The message was created by the messenger - no point in separating the two.
Crash
2020-03-03 07:42:38 UTC
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Post by JohnO
Post by James Christophers
Post by Tony
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2020/03/03/1064776/jones-attacks-on-indian-students-a-timely-reminder
Xenophobic and a blatant attempt to get votes from the minority who are the
same.
So far, the massed recreational wringing of hands has been about Jones' indiscretion. But an actual statement describing the nature of the "ruination" he alleges seems to be missing - as is any commentary suggesting that, any possible (alleged) racism apart, there may actually **be** a "ruination" problem that must be addressed.
I have no time whatever for Jones, but this looks like another instance where easy targeting of a controversial messenger is simply too tempting to resist, whereas the message itself is quietly slipped under counter and into the "embarrassing truths" basket - to continue silently festering and corrupting unseen and un-queried...until...
The message was created by the messenger - no point in separating the two.
Exactly JohnO. Jones was indeed a messenger, but his message was
totally inaccurate and worthless to the point that the racist rant
from him revealed only a racist attitude and no other redeeming
truths.


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James Christophers
2020-03-03 20:28:31 UTC
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Post by Crash
Post by JohnO
Post by James Christophers
Post by Tony
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2020/03/03/1064776/jones-attacks-on-indian-students-a-timely-reminder
Xenophobic and a blatant attempt to get votes from the minority who are the
same.
So far, the massed recreational wringing of hands has been about Jones' indiscretion. But an actual statement describing the nature of the "ruination" he alleges seems to be missing - as is any commentary suggesting that, any possible (alleged) racism apart, there may actually **be** a "ruination" problem that must be addressed.
I have no time whatever for Jones, but this looks like another instance where easy targeting of a controversial messenger is simply too tempting to resist, whereas the message itself is quietly slipped under counter and into the "embarrassing truths" basket - to continue silently festering and corrupting unseen and un-queried...until...
The message was created by the messenger - no point in separating the two.
Exactly JohnO. Jones was indeed a messenger, but his message was
totally inaccurate and worthless to the point that the racist rant
from him revealed only a racist attitude and no other redeeming
truths.
OK - o problem with any of that. But there's this:

During **2016** it was reported that:

"Fraudulent student visa applications by Indian agents has increased dramatically and they're inventing new ways to bamboozle authorities, documents released by Immigration NZ show. The department cracked down on student visa fraud in May after it was discovered hundreds of students, nearly all of them Indian, were in New Zealand on visas obtained using fake documents."

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/indian-student-visa-fraud-soars-new-ways-bamboozle-authorities-emerge

Was this behaviour **actually** stamped out once and for all by the then government or does it still continue as Jones appears to suggest?
John Bowes
2020-03-04 20:50:39 UTC
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Post by James Christophers
Post by Crash
Post by JohnO
Post by James Christophers
Post by Tony
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2020/03/03/1064776/jones-attacks-on-indian-students-a-timely-reminder
Xenophobic and a blatant attempt to get votes from the minority who are the
same.
So far, the massed recreational wringing of hands has been about Jones' indiscretion. But an actual statement describing the nature of the "ruination" he alleges seems to be missing - as is any commentary suggesting that, any possible (alleged) racism apart, there may actually **be** a "ruination" problem that must be addressed.
I have no time whatever for Jones, but this looks like another instance where easy targeting of a controversial messenger is simply too tempting to resist, whereas the message itself is quietly slipped under counter and into the "embarrassing truths" basket - to continue silently festering and corrupting unseen and un-queried...until...
The message was created by the messenger - no point in separating the two.
Exactly JohnO. Jones was indeed a messenger, but his message was
totally inaccurate and worthless to the point that the racist rant
from him revealed only a racist attitude and no other redeeming
truths.
"Fraudulent student visa applications by Indian agents has increased dramatically and they're inventing new ways to bamboozle authorities, documents released by Immigration NZ show. The department cracked down on student visa fraud in May after it was discovered hundreds of students, nearly all of them Indian, were in New Zealand on visas obtained using fake documents."
https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/indian-student-visa-fraud-soars-new-ways-bamboozle-authorities-emerge
Was this behaviour **actually** stamped out once and for all by the then government or does it still continue as Jones appears to suggest?
It does still exist as stated by Hipkins. 400+ was the number but only about three have been prosecuted. Hypkins was quite proud that the checks were working but wasn't going to have any more students prosecuted.
George
2020-03-03 19:36:43 UTC
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On Mon, 02 Mar 2020 20:07:41 -0600
Post by Tony
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2020/03/03/1064776/jones-attacks-on-indian-students-a-timely-reminder
Xenophobic and a blatant attempt to get votes from the minority who
are the same.
Trying to buy votes.
He's promising the north everything in an attempt to 'win a seat'
His racism will go unchallenged because only europeans can be racist
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Rich80105
2020-03-04 01:53:27 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 02 Mar 2020 20:07:41 -0600
Post by Tony
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2020/03/03/1064776/jones-attacks-on-indian-students-a-timely-reminder
Xenophobic and a blatant attempt to get votes from the minority who
are the same.
Trying to buy votes.
He's promising the north everything in an attempt to 'win a seat'
The North are used to that - remember "10 bridges"?
Post by Rich80105
His racism will go unchallenged because only europeans can be racist
Don;t be stupid - anyone can be racist; thankfully most are not.

I suspect Peters and Jones are taking turns to be outrageous to seek
different types of supporters - Jones is going for the regional /
farmer vote; his target is disaffected ex-National voters. Sadly his
arguments are both wrong and offensive, but that may still be what is
needed to make the transtition from National less of a change.
Tony
2020-03-04 02:10:31 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 02 Mar 2020 20:07:41 -0600
Post by Tony
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2020/03/03/1064776/jones-attacks-on-indian-students-a-timely-reminder
Xenophobic and a blatant attempt to get votes from the minority who
are the same.
Trying to buy votes.
He's promising the north everything in an attempt to 'win a seat'
The North are used to that - remember "10 bridges"?
Remember Peter's failed promises?
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Post by Rich80105
His racism will go unchallenged because only europeans can be racist
Don;t be stupid - anyone can be racist; thankfully most are not.
He is not being stupid. There is some truth in what he wrote.
Post by Rich80105
I suspect Peters and Jones are taking turns to be outrageous to seek
different types of supporters - Jones is going for the regional /
farmer vote; his target is disaffected ex-National voters. Sadly his
arguments are both wrong and offensive, but that may still be what is
needed to make the transtition from National less of a change.
Nonsense, racist is racist period. Norhing to do with National.
John Bowes
2020-03-04 20:54:46 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 02 Mar 2020 20:07:41 -0600
Post by Tony
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2020/03/03/1064776/jones-attacks-on-indian-students-a-timely-reminder
Xenophobic and a blatant attempt to get votes from the minority who
are the same.
Trying to buy votes.
He's promising the north everything in an attempt to 'win a seat'
The North are used to that - remember "10 bridges"?
Remember Peter's failed promises?
Post by Rich80105
Post by Rich80105
His racism will go unchallenged because only europeans can be racist
Don;t be stupid - anyone can be racist; thankfully most are not.
He is not being stupid. There is some truth in what he wrote.
Post by Rich80105
I suspect Peters and Jones are taking turns to be outrageous to seek
different types of supporters - Jones is going for the regional /
farmer vote; his target is disaffected ex-National voters. Sadly his
arguments are both wrong and offensive, but that may still be what is
needed to make the transtition from National less of a change.
Nonsense, racist is racist period. Norhing to do with National.
Rich as usual conveniently forgets Labour doing a survey of house buyers and coming to the conclusion residents of China were buying Auckland :)
John Bowes
2020-03-04 20:53:14 UTC
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Post by Rich80105
On Mon, 02 Mar 2020 20:07:41 -0600
Post by Tony
https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2020/03/03/1064776/jones-attacks-on-indian-students-a-timely-reminder
Xenophobic and a blatant attempt to get votes from the minority who
are the same.
Trying to buy votes.
He's promising the north everything in an attempt to 'win a seat'
The North are used to that - remember "10 bridges"?
didn't Winston deliver those? Or is that why he got kicked out? But not to worry Saint Jacinda will get them built! :)
Post by Rich80105
Post by Rich80105
His racism will go unchallenged because only europeans can be racist
Don;t be stupid - anyone can be racist; thankfully most are not.
I suspect Peters and Jones are taking turns to be outrageous to seek
different types of supporters - Jones is going for the regional /
farmer vote; his target is disaffected ex-National voters. Sadly his
arguments are both wrong and offensive, but that may still be what is
needed to make the transtition from National less of a change.
Winston is good at grabbing headlines but useless at actualy getting anything done. He and the current government were made for each other!
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