Nope. Numerous reasons, but most prominent:
1 - Someone who "knows what they are doing" with VASL is going to have no
idea what I am doing with the rest of my computer. So if he deletes 10
files to make VASL 4.1 work and in the process impacts a half dozen
applications that I actually need, then I have a bigger problem.
2 - I am actually pretty good with computers...never had a problem getting
previous versions of VASL to run or update, which is/was supposedly much
more difficult than this version. Frankly, if I can't install it then I
will vote with my feet and won't use it. VAASL 4.0.12 is perfectly
acceptable to me and everyone I play with.
3 - Unless someone who knows what they are doing is going to set it up on
another 500 computers then it is highly unlikely that many other people
will ever use this version. And since it has not been demonstrated that
you can easily run two versions, I'd prefer to stay with the majority (at
least in the case of people I know) who still use v4.0.12.
Sorry if I am starting to sound curt...not intentional. RK suggested
deleting the VASSALPreferences file and downloading again. Next day I have
several hours to fix things if that doesn't work, I will try it. Meantime,
I'll just keep rolling my v4.0 dicebot.
Be well.
Seth
At 10:03 PM 1/19/2004, Brad Knoll wrote:
>Seth,
>
>Ever thought of having someone who knows what they are doing set it up
>for u thru "Remote Assist" on MSN Messenger. Set up my buddies Outlook
>Express on his computer from my house.
>
>Brad
>
>
>"You know the world is fuct up when the best rapper is white, the best
>golfer is black, France accuses other countries of being arrogant, and
>Germany doesn't want to go to war"
>
>-Unknown
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Seth W Fancher [mailto:swfancher-***@public.gmane.org]
>Sent: January 19, 2004 9:58 PM
>To: Brad Knoll; Aslml-AM3YF4s/***@public.gmane.org
>Subject: RE: [ASLML] VASL 4.1.1 Q
>
>Hi Brad,
>
>I don't get any error message at all...it apparently thinks it is
>loading
>and installing just fine. Only problem is, it's v4.0.12. When I try to
>
>open a game or boards, it says "null" in the control window. But that's
>
>the only error that I get.
>
>Thanks though...glad yours is working.
>
>Seth
>
>
>
>
>
>At 05:54 PM 1/19/2004, Brad Knoll wrote:
> >Seth
> >
> > I had the exact same problem. Mine initially worked fine until I
>came
> >up with the idea of "Ill redo it because I want a fresh install". I
> >took me a day to get it to run bastardly, two days to get it to work
> >properly.
> >
> >Does your VASL error message pop up and then the VASSAL engine loads
>and
> >you cant find the VASL.mod? Do a file search for VASL.mod. you will
> >find it and be able to do a manual load from that folder(hidden deep in
> >your computer). Kinda a pain but it works.
> >
> >To get it to work properly I uninstalled everything. The went in and
> >manually deleted all the files that JAVA/VASL had setup that don't
> >delete on the uninstall. Figured this out when I
> >uninstalled/reinstalled a few times and same problem, then I knew files
> >were being left behind. When you figure out the directory were they
>are
> >be careful. You don't want to delete non java/vasl files that your
> >computer needs. I sorted the files by date in folder. Do this by
> >hitting "view" and scroll down to "details". Hit the date tab at the
> >top and it sorts everything by date. Some JAVA/VASL files are obvious,
> >so grab those and the other files that have the same date. Delete.
> >Cut and paste your board/overlay, scenario, saved game folders to to
> >your desktop. Uninstall all previous JAVA and VASL and go in and delete
> >the folders they were in. Create new VASL4 folder. Copy/paste your
> >board/overlay, blah blah files back in. reinstall JAVA v1.4.2_03 and
> >VASL 4.1 carefully reading and exploring all options so VASL4 goes to
> >the right folder. Should work.
> >
> >Basically if you screwed up your first install like I did you have to
> >automatically and manually delete all traces of VASL and JAVA and do a
> >fresh install from absolute scratch.
> >
> >
> >
> >Brad
> >
> >
> >"You know the world is fuct up when the best rapper is white, the best
> >golfer is black, France accuses other countries of being arrogant, and
> >Germany doesn't want to go to war"
> >
> >-Unknown
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Aslml-bounces-AM3YF4s/***@public.gmane.org
>[mailto:Aslml-bounces-AM3YF4s/***@public.gmane.org]
> >On Behalf Of Seth W Fancher
> >Sent: January 19, 2004 2:51 PM
> >To: morrisgj-***@public.gmane.org; Bruce Childs
> >Cc: Aslml-AM3YF4s/***@public.gmane.org
> >Subject: Re: [ASLML] VASL 4.1.1 Q
> >
> >Hi Gerry,
> >
> >Would this be the program that is installed on my computer as "Java 2
> >Runtime Environment, SE v1.4.2_03"?
> >
> >I do also have Java Web Start which works tremendously well. I can go
> >on
> >there, click my little VASL link, and Hey! Presto! VASL version 4.0.12
> >loads up just beautifully. Same thing happens when I click on the link
> >to
> >start the application at VASL.org. Yeah, the application downloads
> >automatically to update what you have....at this time I have downloaded
> >and
> >"upgraded" to version 4.0.12 about a half dozen times.
> >
> >I appreciate the attempt to help, I really do, and am sorry to vent.
> >But I
> >actually consider myself to be pretty good with computers, and it
> >frustrates me no end when people keep saying "just click here and all
> >will
> >be well." Because it isn't.
> >
> >Fortunately, no one that I play with has managed to get v4.1 running
> >either, so it really doesn't make much difference to us.
> >
> >Thanks for trying to help...and sorry to vent at you.
> >
> >Seth
> >
> >
> >
> >At 01:11 PM 1/19/2004, morrisgj-***@public.gmane.org wrote:
> > >Hello Seth:
> > >
> > >Bruce is right. You need something called Java Web Start which comes
> >with
> > >the lastest Java. Go to http://java.sun.com/products/javawebstart/
>and
> > >near the top of the page you will see:
> > >
> > >"With Java Web Start technology, standalone Java software
>applications
> >can
> > >be deployed with a single click over the network. Java Web Start
> >ensures
> > >the most current version of the application will be deployed, as well
> >as
> > >the correct version of the Java Runtime Environment (JRE). > Read
>More
> > >
> > >Where Do You Get Java Web Start?
> > >Java Web Start is included in the Java Runtime Environment (JRE) as
> >part
> > >of J2SE 1.4.2. Download now."
> > >
> > >Once you install the new Java, VASSAL/VASL install very easily.
> > >
> > >Take care,
> > >
> > >Gerry
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: Bruce Childs <bc61-F7/***@public.gmane.org>
> > >Date: Monday, January 19, 2004 10:37 am
> > >Subject: Re: [ASLML] VASL 4.1.1 Q
> > >
> > > > Regarding vasl 4.1.1
> > > >
> > > > Before you can get this version to work, be sure you have the
> > > > proper JAVA
> > > > platform. The vasl.org site has a link to the JAVA site which
> > > > will provide
> > > > you with the neccessary software for FREE.
> > > >
> > > > If you have the proper JAVA platform installed on your machine,
> > > > launchingvasl from the vasl.org site will automatically install
> > > > VASSAL and vasl
> > > > 4.1.1, though if you have a Mac, I cannot be sure of anything.
> > > >
> > > > worked for me and I can't do anything....
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Seth W Fancher" <swfancher-***@public.gmane.org>
> > > > To: <vaslplayer-goaWJWIt5zpWk0Htik3J/***@public.gmane.org>; <***@asl-forums.net>
> > > > Sent: Monday, January 19, 2004 11:29 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [ASLML] VASL 4.1.1 Q
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Dave,
> > > > >
> > > > > I am still completely unable to download and get VASL 4.1
> > > > running on my
> > > > > machine...truth is I gave up.
> > > > >
> > > > > But, in Ver 4.0.12 at least, there is an icon in the Control
> > > > Window...looks
> > > > > like two connected rectangles...you click on that and it tales
> > > > you to the
> > > > > board setup screen, where I have been able to modify the
> > > > terrain/boards.>
> > > > > Hope this helps! Be well.
> > > > >
> > > > > Seth
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > At 11:05 AM 1/19/2004, David Reenstra wrote:
> > > > > >Hello all,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Anyone know if there is a way to alter the board/terrain setup
> > > > of a
> > > > scenario
> > > > > >after it has been done the first time? Or is it now a one shot
> > > > deal,once you
> > > > > >select the boards and orient and crop them, choose your
> > > > overlays and
> > > > terrain
> > > > > >transformations and hit "Done", you can't go back? Seems like
> > > > in VASL 3
> > > > you
> > > > > >could go back to this step if you realize you missed something
> > > > even after
> > > > you
> > > > > >started adding counters to the board.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Thanks,
> > > > > >Dave Reenstra
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >