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This group now blocked in Google Groups
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Eric
2019-02-04 17:41:27 UTC
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It is now impossible to even read it there. The explanation is excessive
spam, which is true, but much of it was created in Google Groups
anyway. So much for Google being a safe custodian of the Usenet archive.

Eric
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Graeme Wall
2019-02-04 19:07:00 UTC
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Post by Eric
It is now impossible to even read it there. The explanation is excessive
spam, which is true, but much of it was created in Google Groups
anyway. So much for Google being a safe custodian of the Usenet archive.
Whoever (apart from google) ever thought it was that?
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Guy Gorton
2019-02-04 19:15:17 UTC
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Post by Eric
It is now impossible to even read it there. The explanation is excessive
spam, which is true, but much of it was created in Google Groups
anyway. So much for Google being a safe custodian of the Usenet archive.
Eric
My feed comes from news-europe.giganews.com and I see it through Agent
2.0/32.652. All the useless posts about spurious medicines and drugs
are a nuisance but only take me 30 seconds to delete permanently. I
have been seeing other posts on this group but not a lot of them.
Hope you see this one.

Guy in theUK


Guy Gorton
Richard J.
2019-02-04 19:49:54 UTC
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Post by Guy Gorton
Post by Eric
It is now impossible to even read it there. The explanation is excessive
spam, which is true, but much of it was created in Google Groups
anyway. So much for Google being a safe custodian of the Usenet archive.
Eric
My feed comes from news-europe.giganews.com and I see it through Agent
2.0/32.652. All the useless posts about spurious medicines and drugs
are a nuisance but only take me 30 seconds to delete permanently. I
have been seeing other posts on this group but not a lot of them.
Hope you see this one.
Guy in theUK
Guy Gorton
Yes, I saw your post Guy, using Thunderbird to get posts from the Virgin Media news server at news.virginmedia.com. Like you, I find it only takes a few seconds to scan the posts from @gmail.com to make sure none are genuine transport posts, and if so to add them to the list of exceptions to my filter which marks them as probable spam.

What is the best route to complain to Google that they are needlessly excluding genuine usenet posts? And that the spam originates with people that Google are continually allowing to register new temporary @gmail.com addresses for the sole purpose of sending spam. Google, the spam is YOUR FAULT!
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Richard J.
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b***@t7lq95ac.net
2019-02-04 20:53:08 UTC
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On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 19:49:54 +0000
Post by Richard J.
What is the best route to complain to Google that they are needlessly
excluding genuine usenet posts?
LOL :) Good luck with that! I doubt any of the millennial hipsters working
there have even heard of usenet. Groups is probably a legacy system tucked away
in a dusty corner of one of their data centres with all the people who set it
having long since left.
Robin
2019-02-04 21:30:08 UTC
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Post by b***@t7lq95ac.net
On Mon, 4 Feb 2019 19:49:54 +0000
Post by Richard J.
What is the best route to complain to Google that they are needlessly
excluding genuine usenet posts?
LOL :) Good luck with that! I doubt any of the millennial hipsters working
there have even heard of usenet. Groups is probably a legacy system tucked away
in a dusty corner of one of their data centres with all the people who set it
having long since left.
It seems so. See this thread (scroll down to Graham's 2nd post) which
suggests there's little or no hope.

https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/uk.legal.moderated/aZoKMISc1As
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Robin
reply-to address is (intended to be) valid
Robin9
2019-02-05 10:23:02 UTC
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I access this group via London Banter where some kind person
does periodically remove all the drug garbage. As long as we
can all post by one means or another, this news group wil
continue. If a roundabout way of communicating eliminate
the drug adverts, we'll all be better off anyway


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Robin9
John Williamson
2019-02-05 19:11:10 UTC
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Post by Robin9
I access this group via London Banter where some kind person
does periodically remove all the drug garbage. As long as we
can all post by one means or another, this news group will
continue. If a roundabout way of communicating eliminates
the drug adverts, we'll all be better off anyway.
It may be worth checking for a news server that runs "cleanfeed" (Now
deprecaed as it's not maintained, or "PyClean", and chatting with the
operator when the unwanted posts arrive, so the sources can be added to
the "block" list.

https://github.com/crooks/PyClean
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Tciao for Now!

John.
Bryan Morris
2019-02-06 17:06:27 UTC
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In message <***@bruno.deptj.eu>, Eric <***@deptj.eu>
writes
Post by Eric
It is now impossible to even read it there. The explanation is excessive
spam, which is true, but much of it was created in Google Groups
anyway. So much for Google being a safe custodian of the Usenet archive.
Eric
Try to complain about the drug spam posted via Google got the response
that one wasn't authorised to complain even though the headers gave a
complaint address.
Drug spam stopped though (for he moment)
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Bryan Morris
Roland Perry
2019-02-06 19:39:18 UTC
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Post by Bryan Morris
Post by Eric
It is now impossible to even read it there. The explanation is excessive
spam, which is true, but much of it was created in Google Groups
anyway. So much for Google being a safe custodian of the Usenet archive.
Try to complain about the drug spam posted via Google got the response
that one wasn't authorised to complain even though the headers gave a
complaint address.
Drug spam stopped though (for he moment)
Because Google have suspended the group for everyone (not just the
spammers).
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Roland Perry
Bryan Morris
2019-02-07 09:38:13 UTC
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Post by Roland Perry
Post by Bryan Morris
Post by Eric
It is now impossible to even read it there. The explanation is excessive
spam, which is true, but much of it was created in Google Groups
anyway. So much for Google being a safe custodian of the Usenet archive.
Try to complain about the drug spam posted via Google got the response
that one wasn't authorised to complain even though the headers gave a
complaint address.
Drug spam stopped though (for he moment)
Because Google have suspended the group for everyone (not just the
spammers).
I'm talking about weeks ago. The headers showed an abuse e mail address
and I once sent an email to them about the spam. I got an automatic
response saying I wasn't authorised to complain.

I assume Google, in its ignorance, only accept complaint emails from
Google Groups users and aren't aware of Usenet.
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Bryan Morris
Roland Perry
2019-02-07 11:21:18 UTC
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Post by Bryan Morris
Post by Roland Perry
Post by Bryan Morris
Post by Eric
It is now impossible to even read it there. The explanation is excessive
spam, which is true, but much of it was created in Google Groups
anyway. So much for Google being a safe custodian of the Usenet archive.
Try to complain about the drug spam posted via Google got the
response that one wasn't authorised to complain even though the
headers gave a complaint address.
Drug spam stopped though (for he moment)
Because Google have suspended the group for everyone (not just the
spammers).
I'm talking about weeks ago. The headers showed an abuse e mail address
and I once sent an email to them about the spam. I got an automatic
response saying I wasn't authorised to complain.
I assume Google, in its ignorance, only accept complaint emails from
Google Groups users and aren't aware of Usenet.
I did a test, and it appears be a gross configuration error, which is
just as disappointing, really.

I emailed the abuse contact given: groups-***@google.com, and it has
incorrectly taken it to be a posting to the hypothetical Google Group
called 'groups-abuse':

We're writing to let you know that the group you tried to
contact (groups-abuse) may not exist, or you may not have
permission to post messages to the group.
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Roland Perry
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