Sam Taylor
2012-01-16 07:43:04 UTC
Whats wrong about vinces theology.
vince believe Jesus is "Eternally Preexistent with the Father.
If that is so Jesus never came into existence,
He believes Jesus is G-D of Very G-d,
now the Term very G-d Means the bigger, the better,
and the most powerful of the Two(2)
as that would make Him G-ds G-D.
now this is very poorly put forth, and is
quite Nonsensical, if You think about It.
So who is Jesus? exactly who the Scripture says He is,
The Only Begotten Son of G-D,
So to explain this Simply the Very G-D gave birth to Him.
as is recorded in John 1:1
In the beginning WAS (past tense) the Word, (logos)
and the Word was WITH (with) G-D, .........AND.........
The Word WAS (was G-D)
Now read it Carefully as "WAS" is a past tense Word
denoting something that "WAS" but is no Longer,
and "WAS....."WITH" meaning He was not G-D but With G-D
the next verse explains that although G-D (speaking of the Father)
was the Creator, and he was the Agent of that Creation,
and NOT the Creator.
So to Simply put it Before anything else was brought Forth,
G-D brought forth His Only Begotten Son, He was NOT a Created Being,
but a Begotten Being.
and they together brought forth all Creation, again the Father being the
Creator,
While the Son was the Agent of that Creation.
G-D brought forth from what seemed Nothingness, so the Son could
Make that which was Brought forth, and MAKE all that was Made.
now here is where We have the Biggest problem with vinces
theology, that is John 3:16
For G-D so loved the World He "GAVE" His Only Begotten Son.
now this was an eternal gift, not a loan, nor a short term Lease.
that Whomsoever MIGHT believe in him, should not Perish, but Have
Everlasting Life.
Vince does not believe it was an eternal gift, but a Short Term Loan.
BUT just When did G-d give his Son, Vince believes it was at the cross
Making G-D the Killer, not the Jews, or the Romans.
I believe when G-D gave his son was When G-D allowed His son,
to humble himself, and Become Flesh.
Vince of Course does not believe he came in the flesh, but came
Like the Nephelums Hybrid Half Spirit, and Half Man.
He Explains it as "Fully G-D, and Fully Man"
Now You know that that would be contrary to the Nature of both,
Nor can you be Fully one Thing, and Be fully another thing
as that makes no sense at all.
But why did G-D have to Give his Son, it was Sin, not the sin of Eve
as she was deceived, and didn't know she had been deceived until
She gave into the deception, and discovered Her deception.
Adam chose to sin knowing it was sin. and thus that sin had to
have a redeemer.
Her deception G-D could have dealt entirely different, than his sin
a redeemer is a near kinsman, and the basis for the Justice of G-D
is an eye for an eye, a tooth for a Tooth, and thus a Toe for a toe.
AND a Life for a life, the life of a near kinsman, or
someone like Adam the Him. not the Her, just before He chose to Sin
that could be the Only acceptable sacrifice.
Having a G-d for man is exacting to Heavy a price for justice.
Her is the Kicker most fail to see the Gift was eternal
meaning when G-D gave his Son, he never got him back.
G-D got back this second Adam, after WE sacrificed Him for Our sins,
and not G-D.
so this man Jesus Christ could become the mediator between us and G-d
to be an honest mediator He could not have become either G-D, or Man,
but an entirely new Creation, and When we see Him as he really is,
we become like him
Sam
vince believe Jesus is "Eternally Preexistent with the Father.
If that is so Jesus never came into existence,
He believes Jesus is G-D of Very G-d,
now the Term very G-d Means the bigger, the better,
and the most powerful of the Two(2)
as that would make Him G-ds G-D.
now this is very poorly put forth, and is
quite Nonsensical, if You think about It.
So who is Jesus? exactly who the Scripture says He is,
The Only Begotten Son of G-D,
So to explain this Simply the Very G-D gave birth to Him.
as is recorded in John 1:1
In the beginning WAS (past tense) the Word, (logos)
and the Word was WITH (with) G-D, .........AND.........
The Word WAS (was G-D)
Now read it Carefully as "WAS" is a past tense Word
denoting something that "WAS" but is no Longer,
and "WAS....."WITH" meaning He was not G-D but With G-D
the next verse explains that although G-D (speaking of the Father)
was the Creator, and he was the Agent of that Creation,
and NOT the Creator.
So to Simply put it Before anything else was brought Forth,
G-D brought forth His Only Begotten Son, He was NOT a Created Being,
but a Begotten Being.
and they together brought forth all Creation, again the Father being the
Creator,
While the Son was the Agent of that Creation.
G-D brought forth from what seemed Nothingness, so the Son could
Make that which was Brought forth, and MAKE all that was Made.
now here is where We have the Biggest problem with vinces
theology, that is John 3:16
For G-D so loved the World He "GAVE" His Only Begotten Son.
now this was an eternal gift, not a loan, nor a short term Lease.
that Whomsoever MIGHT believe in him, should not Perish, but Have
Everlasting Life.
Vince does not believe it was an eternal gift, but a Short Term Loan.
BUT just When did G-d give his Son, Vince believes it was at the cross
Making G-D the Killer, not the Jews, or the Romans.
I believe when G-D gave his son was When G-D allowed His son,
to humble himself, and Become Flesh.
Vince of Course does not believe he came in the flesh, but came
Like the Nephelums Hybrid Half Spirit, and Half Man.
He Explains it as "Fully G-D, and Fully Man"
Now You know that that would be contrary to the Nature of both,
Nor can you be Fully one Thing, and Be fully another thing
as that makes no sense at all.
But why did G-D have to Give his Son, it was Sin, not the sin of Eve
as she was deceived, and didn't know she had been deceived until
She gave into the deception, and discovered Her deception.
Adam chose to sin knowing it was sin. and thus that sin had to
have a redeemer.
Her deception G-D could have dealt entirely different, than his sin
a redeemer is a near kinsman, and the basis for the Justice of G-D
is an eye for an eye, a tooth for a Tooth, and thus a Toe for a toe.
AND a Life for a life, the life of a near kinsman, or
someone like Adam the Him. not the Her, just before He chose to Sin
that could be the Only acceptable sacrifice.
Having a G-d for man is exacting to Heavy a price for justice.
Her is the Kicker most fail to see the Gift was eternal
meaning when G-D gave his Son, he never got him back.
G-D got back this second Adam, after WE sacrificed Him for Our sins,
and not G-D.
so this man Jesus Christ could become the mediator between us and G-d
to be an honest mediator He could not have become either G-D, or Man,
but an entirely new Creation, and When we see Him as he really is,
we become like him
Sam