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94% of All Deaths Listed As Covid Were Not From Covid and Had An Average 2.6 Comorbidities
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AlleyCat
2020-12-20 00:24:35 UTC
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94% of All Deaths Listed As Covid Were Not From Covid and Had An Average 2.6
Co-morbidities

This matches Professor Dolores Cahill in Ireland, who challenged the 1,778
Covid deaths after hundreds contacted her to say their relatives didn't die of
Covid.

The number was revised to 100

Well! That was easy.

Call the left on their bullshit, and they HAVE to amend their bullshit.

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Here are some more DUMB ASS DEMOCRATS, telling us it's just perfectly OK and
fine to breath in other people's faces and go to the movies, a parade, and
anything else you WANT to do:



Bill de Blasio(D):

"Since I'm encouraging New Yorkers to go on with your lives & get out on the
town despite Coronavirus, I thought I would offer some suggestions. Here's the
first: thru Thurs 3/5 go see "The Traitor" @FilmLinc. If "The Wire" was a true
story & set in Italy, it would be this film."

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Nancy Pelosi(D):

Maybe like Nancy Pelosi telling people to DEFINITELY acquire the virus, by
going to Chinatown?

"Come to Chinatown, here we are... we're... again... careful... safe... and
come join us." - "Everything is fine" and "all is well."

So eloquent.

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Oxiris Barbot(D):, a pediatrician who has served as the Commissioner of
Health of the City of New York since 2018?

"The risk to New Yorkers for Coronavirus is low, and that our preparedness as a
city is very high."

"There is no reason not to take the subway, not to take the bus, not to go out
to your favorite restaurant, and certainly not to miss the parade next Sunday."

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New York State Sen. John Liu(D):

"But there's really no need to panic and to avoid activities that we always do
as New Yorkers... we are hardy people."

"As an Asian-American, I've been somewhat disturbed, if not outright appalled,
by some of the comment or gestures that I have seen."

"Diseases originate from anywhere, or from pahticulah praces in the world."

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Anthony Fauci:

Fauci Lied... people died.

It's been a long way down for Anthony Fauci, M.D. - from virtual dictator of a
nation under virtual house arrest (and purported sex symbol) to laughingstock
caught lying and blaming the public for his fall.

"Timeline: Dr. Anthony Fauci Repeatedly Downplayed Coronavirus Threat"

"Dr. Fauci Made the Coronavirus Pandemic Worse by Lying About Masks"

"Dr. Fauci Now Says Second Coronavirus Wave 'Not Inevitable'"

"Fauci Falls, Fumbles Forbidding Football"

"Fauci Caught On Camera Contradicting Himself About Severity of Coronavirus"

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Black Population in US: 47.8 million

Hispanic Population in US: 60.6 million

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Hispanics Show 'Less Consistent Adherence' to Social Distancing, Mask-Wearing

Hispanics make up a high percentage of COVID-19 cases, are not wearing masks
and are not socially distancing as much as the rest of the population.

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Why Some People of Color Say They Won't Wear Homemade Masks

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/07/us/face-masks-ethnicity-coronavirus-cdc-
trnd/index.html

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Blacks And Hispanics May Fear Wearing Masks In Public

HUNTSVILLE, Ala. - Statistics are showing a disproportionate number of African
Americans are getting sick and dying of coronavirus.

Still, some minorities say they don't want to wear masks in public.

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People of Color Won't Be Required to Wear Masks

LINCOLN COUNTY, Ore. - People of color are exempt from an Oregon county's mask
mandate over concerns about racial profiling.

So... they can spread Covid-19 because they don't HAVE to wear a mask, JUST to
keep them from being profiled?

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Hispanic And Black Children Facing Higher Rates Of COVID-19 Hospitalization:
CDC

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/hispanic-and-black-children-facing-higher-
rates-of-covid-19-hospitalization-cdc/ar-BB17J7Ur

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CNN: CDC Data: Covid-19 Hit Hispanics, Blacks And Those With Underlying
Conditions Harder

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/20/politics/cdc-covid-charts-black-hispanic-
underlying-conditions/index.html

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Hispanics and Blacks Are Hardest Hit by COVID-19 in New York City

https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2020-04-08/coronavirus-
disproportionally-kills-hispanics-and-blacks-in-new-york-city

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Why Black And Hispanic Residents Are More Likely To Become Infected By The
Coronavirus

https://www.poynter.org/reporting-editing/2020/why-black-and-hispanic-
residents-are-more-likely-to-become-infected-by-the-coronavirus/

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Hispanic Americans Being Hit Hard By COVID-19

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200629/hispanic-americans-being-hit-hard-by-
covid-19#1

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COVID-19 Is Killing Over Twice As Many Black Americans As Whites

Black individuals are nearly three times as likely to contract COVID-19 and
twice as likely to die from the virus, compared with white individuals,
according to a new report by the National Urban League. Researchers have
struggled to measure with precision the race gaps in COVID-19 because much of
the early data reported by hospitals did not include information about
patients' race - as of early August, Pennsylvania has reported race data for
about half of its cases.

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Doctors Worry About COVID's Effects on Hispanics

Hispanic Americans, who make up 18.3% of the country's population, represent
32.7 % of new coronavirus cases nationwide, according to data from the CDC.

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Health Concerns From COVID-19 Much Higher Among Hispanics and Blacks Than
Whites

About half of Hispanic adults (49%) are very concerned about unknowingly
spreading COVID-19 to others, compared with 38% of black adults and 28% of
white adults. And Hispanics (43%) and blacks (31%) are far more likely than
whites (18%) to be very concerned over getting COVID-19 and needing to be
hospitalized.

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CDC: Blacks, Hispanics Dying of COVID-19 at Disproportionately High Rates

Black and Hispanic Americans were disproportionately more likely to die of
COVID-19 during the spring and summer months, a new indicator that the corona
virus's toll is falling most heavily on under-served and minority communities.
Bill Flett
2020-12-20 00:31:15 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
94% of All Deaths Listed As Covid Were Not From Covid
That's a lie.
AlleyCat
2020-12-20 02:02:49 UTC
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On Sat, 19 Dec 2020 16:31:15 -0800, Bill Flett SAYS...
Post by AlleyCat
94% of All Deaths Listed As Covid Were Not From Covid
That's a lie.
No.

What's ARE lies, coming from a known, settled, beyond rational dispute, liar,
are these:

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No one, and I mean *no one*, ... rewriting every subject line in hysterical
language, etc.

Like you?

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The topic title was "The People Have Spoken" (quoting the judge), YOU changed
it and added a dozen newsgroups to your response. AB

Rudy changes the topic AND titles all the time. AC

No. - Psycho (you)

Really?

Here are just two... not wasting much time on YOUR psycho dumb ass.

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Subject: Watch: Rudy will Come Up With Some Kind of Stupid Excuse for His
Ignorance - Bonus: Why Rudy THINKS He's Never Wrong

Subject: Watch: Rudy will Come Kick My Fat Flabby Doughy Fucking ASS! Yes!

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Subject: Does The Democrat Party Need The Black Vote? - Better Hope Not, Unless
Stupid Democrat Voters Stay Stupid Like These Idiots

Subject: Re: Does The Democrat Party [snip Schild bullshit]

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Rudy's psychosis is characterized by an impaired relationship with reality.
It's a symptom of serious mental disorders. People who are experiencing
psychosis may have delusions.

The person experiencing psychosis may also have thoughts that are contrary to
actual EVIDENCE.

These thoughts are known as delusions. Some people with psychosis may also
experience loss of motivation and social withdrawal.

(like spending ALL day on Usenet, instead of socially interacting)

These experiences can be frightening. They may also cause people who are
experiencing psychosis to hurt themselves or others.

"I can kill you with one hand. You know this."

"Thanks for kicking my faggot ass."

"I've beaten you to a bloody pulp"

"... you you no-fight faggot."

"Kicked your flabby faggot ass again. Yes."

It's important to see a doctor right away if you or someone you know is
experiencing symptoms of psychosis.

Symptoms of psychosis include:

depressed mood
sleeping too much or not enough
anxiety
suspiciousness
withdrawal from family and friends
delusions
disorganized speech, such as switching topics erratically
depression
suicidal thoughts or actions

A delusion is a false belief or impression that is firmly held even though it's
contradicted by reality and what is commonly considered true. There are
delusions of paranoia, grandiose delusions, and somatic delusions.

People who are experiencing a delusion of paranoia might think that they are
being followed when they aren't or that secret messages are being sent to them.
Someone with a grandiose delusion will have an exaggerated sense of importance.
Somatic delusion is when a person believes they have a terminal illness, but in
reality they're healthy.
Bill Flett
2020-12-20 02:38:26 UTC
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Bill Flett *wrote* his response, not "says." Only squat-to-piss pole-puffing
queers configure customized attributions. Normal people just use whatever their
client has as a default. Schild is a hysterical cocksucking queer. She admits it.
Post by AlleyCat
94% of All Deaths Listed As Covid Were Not From Covid
That's a lie.
No.
Yes. It's a lie. 100% of deaths listed as COVID-19 *ARE*, in fact, caused by the
virus. This is established and is not in rational dispute.
B1ackwater
2020-12-20 04:28:12 UTC
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Post by Bill Flett
Yes. It's a lie. 100% of deaths listed as COVID-19 *ARE*, in fact,
caused by the virus. This is established and is not in rational
dispute.
Nobody is dying from COVID you idiot. It's a big scam to make Trump
look like a moron and for doctors to get paid $$.


Trump is believed and obeyed by millions of white men.


Tired from working long shifts during the pandemic? Feeling overwhelmed by
seeing suffering and death from Covid-19? Worried about catching the
Covid-19 coronavirus yourself in the clinics and hospitals that you are
working in and then potentially bringing the virus back to your families?
Frustrated by the lack of personal protective equipment (PPE) like N95
face masks? Hungry because you’ve had to skip meals to care for patients?
Well, doctors, don’t despair, here’s something that may turn your frown
upside down. And in this case, upside down means 360 degrees around.

President Donald Trump is now suggesting that you (if you are a doctor)
may be helping inflate the Covid-19 death count in order to, drum roll
please, make more money. Isn’t that what you wanted hear during this
particularly tough time?

Is your jaw still attached to the rest of your face after hearing that?
Yep, that’s what the real estate mogul turned President seemed to say
during a campaign rally on Saturday in Wisconsin. Just take a look at this
Independent video:

Doesn’t this make you feel warm all over? Perhaps. But maybe not in the
way that you’d like.

Trump started this segment of his campaign speech by saying that the
Covid-19 death reporting systems in the U.S. are "a little bit
backwards." Ok, that’s a reasonable statement. Many of the disease
surveillance systems in the U.S. can be a bit rotary telephone-esque. So,
if Trump had stopped there, he could have been making a valid point. Oh,
but he didn’t.
MORE FOR YOU
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Elected President
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Financial Gain

The next things that came out of his mouth were: "You know some countries
they report differently. If somebody's sick with a heart problem, and they
die of Covid they say they die of a heart problem. If somebody's
terminally ill with cancer and they have Covid, we report them. And you
know doctors get more money and hospitals get more money. Think of this
incentive."

Oh no he didn’t. Trump didn’t suggest that the over 225,000 Covid-19 death
toll in the U.S. is an inflated number, did he? He didn’t suggest that
doctors are helping inflate that number did he? For what? For money? Well,
doctors, you may be paying more federal taxes this year than Trump did in
some past years (assuming that you are paying more than $750), but are you
really making money from cooking the books during the pandemic?

Whenever someone makes such a claim, it helps to provide something called
evidence and facts to support your claim. Otherwise, that person may seem
like he or she is pulling the claim out of a certain part of the body that
may possibly rhyme with lemon grass. However, in his campaign speech,
Trump didn’t seem to provide any such evidence.

As I have covered previously for Forbes, conspiracy theorists have been
claiming that Covid-19 death tolls are being deliberately inflated without
really providing much compelling supporting evidence. For example, there
have been assertions that things like alcohol poisoning and gun shot wound
deaths are somehow being counted as Covid-19 deaths, despite the fact that
gun shot wound deaths should be pretty darn obvious. It’s not as if
doctors tend to say, “besides that life-threatening gun shot wound, is
there anything that we should take care of first? Do you happen to have
any diarrhea?”

I also reported for Forbes in late August how Twitter removed a tweet from
a Mel Q (not to be confused with Mel C or Mel B from the Spice Girls) that
Trump had re-tweeted. The eventually deleted tweet falsely claimed that
the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) had “admitted” that
only 6% of the reported deaths from Covid-19 were actually from the severe
acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV2). The tweet had
twisted what the CDC said like a crescent roll around a hot dog.

So attempts to downplay the impact of the Covid-19 coronavirus pandemic in
the U.S. have been going on for quite a while now. So has blaming others
for the U.S. death toll, which is by far the highest in the world. It
seems like some allies of Trump have been trying to blame everyone besides
the Trump administration and the Hamburglar for the Covid-19 coronavirus
and its accompanying fatality count in this country rather than work on
improving the national response. And now Trump seems to be blaming
doctors, the same group of folks trying hard to prevent the mortality from
getting higher.
B1ackwater
2021-01-03 15:59:12 UTC
Permalink
Post by Bill Flett
Yes. It's a lie. 100% of deaths listed as COVID-19 *ARE*, in fact,
caused by the virus. This is established and is not in rational
dispute.
Nobody is dying from COVID you idiot. It's a big scam to make Trump
look like a moron and for doctors to get paid $$.


Trump is believed and obeyed by millions of white men.


Tired from working long shifts during the pandemic? Feeling overwhelmed by
seeing suffering and death from Covid-19? Worried about catching the
Covid-19 coronavirus yourself in the clinics and hospitals that you are
working in and then potentially bringing the virus back to your families?
Frustrated by the lack of personal protective equipment (PPE) like N95
face masks? Hungry because you’ve had to skip meals to care for patients?
Well, doctors, don’t despair, here’s something that may turn your frown
upside down. And in this case, upside down means 360 degrees around.

President Donald Trump is now suggesting that you (if you are a doctor)
may be helping inflate the Covid-19 death count in order to, drum roll
please, make more money. Isn’t that what you wanted hear during this
particularly tough time?

Is your jaw still attached to the rest of your face after hearing that?
Yep, that’s what the real estate mogul turned President seemed to say
during a campaign rally on Saturday in Wisconsin. Just take a look at this
Independent video:

Doesn’t this make you feel warm all over? Perhaps. But maybe not in the
way that you’d like.

Trump started this segment of his campaign speech by saying that the
Covid-19 death reporting systems in the U.S. are "a little bit
backwards." Ok, that’s a reasonable statement. Many of the disease
surveillance systems in the U.S. can be a bit rotary telephone-esque. So,
if Trump had stopped there, he could have been making a valid point. Oh,
but he didn’t.
MORE FOR YOU
WHO Warning About Covid-19 Coronavirus Lockdowns Is Taken Out Of Context
Trump Threatens To Issue Executive Order Preventing Biden From Being
Elected President
Trump Baselessly Accuses Doctors Of Overreporting Covid Deaths For
Financial Gain

The next things that came out of his mouth were: "You know some countries
they report differently. If somebody's sick with a heart problem, and they
die of Covid they say they die of a heart problem. If somebody's
terminally ill with cancer and they have Covid, we report them. And you
know doctors get more money and hospitals get more money. Think of this
incentive."

Oh no he didn’t. Trump didn’t suggest that the over 225,000 Covid-19 death
toll in the U.S. is an inflated number, did he? He didn’t suggest that
doctors are helping inflate that number did he? For what? For money? Well,
doctors, you may be paying more federal taxes this year than Trump did in
some past years (assuming that you are paying more than $750), but are you
really making money from cooking the books during the pandemic?

Whenever someone makes such a claim, it helps to provide something called
evidence and facts to support your claim. Otherwise, that person may seem
like he or she is pulling the claim out of a certain part of the body that
may possibly rhyme with lemon grass. However, in his campaign speech,
Trump didn’t seem to provide any such evidence.

As I have covered previously for Forbes, conspiracy theorists have been
claiming that Covid-19 death tolls are being deliberately inflated without
really providing much compelling supporting evidence. For example, there
have been assertions that things like alcohol poisoning and gun shot wound
deaths are somehow being counted as Covid-19 deaths, despite the fact that
gun shot wound deaths should be pretty darn obvious. It’s not as if
doctors tend to say, “besides that life-threatening gun shot wound, is
there anything that we should take care of first? Do you happen to have
any diarrhea?”

I also reported for Forbes in late August how Twitter removed a tweet from
a Mel Q (not to be confused with Mel C or Mel B from the Spice Girls) that
Trump had re-tweeted. The eventually deleted tweet falsely claimed that
the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) had “admitted” that
only 6% of the reported deaths from Covid-19 were actually from the severe
acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV2). The tweet had
twisted what the CDC said like a crescent roll around a hot dog.

So attempts to downplay the impact of the Covid-19 coronavirus pandemic in
the U.S. have been going on for quite a while now. So has blaming others
for the U.S. death toll, which is by far the highest in the world. It
seems like some allies of Trump have been trying to blame everyone besides
the Trump administration and the Hamburglar for the Covid-19 coronavirus
and its accompanying fatality count in this country rather than work on
improving the national response. And now Trump seems to be blaming
doctors, the same group of folks trying hard to prevent the mortality from
getting higher.
B1ackwater
2021-01-13 22:48:01 UTC
Permalink
Post by Bill Flett
Yes. It's a lie. 100% of deaths listed as COVID-19 *ARE*, in fact,
caused by the virus. This is established and is not in rational
dispute.
Nobody is dying from COVID you idiot. It's a big scam to make Trump
look like a moron and for doctors to get paid $$.


Trump is believed and obeyed by millions of white men.


Tired from working long shifts during the pandemic? Feeling overwhelmed by
seeing suffering and death from Covid-19? Worried about catching the
Covid-19 coronavirus yourself in the clinics and hospitals that you are
working in and then potentially bringing the virus back to your families?
Frustrated by the lack of personal protective equipment (PPE) like N95
face masks? Hungry because you’ve had to skip meals to care for patients?
Well, doctors, don’t despair, here’s something that may turn your frown
upside down. And in this case, upside down means 360 degrees around.

President Donald Trump is now suggesting that you (if you are a doctor)
may be helping inflate the Covid-19 death count in order to, drum roll
please, make more money. Isn’t that what you wanted hear during this
particularly tough time?

Is your jaw still attached to the rest of your face after hearing that?
Yep, that’s what the real estate mogul turned President seemed to say
during a campaign rally on Saturday in Wisconsin. Just take a look at this
Independent video:

Doesn’t this make you feel warm all over? Perhaps. But maybe not in the
way that you’d like.

Trump started this segment of his campaign speech by saying that the
Covid-19 death reporting systems in the U.S. are "a little bit
backwards." Ok, that’s a reasonable statement. Many of the disease
surveillance systems in the U.S. can be a bit rotary telephone-esque. So,
if Trump had stopped there, he could have been making a valid point. Oh,
but he didn’t.
MORE FOR YOU
WHO Warning About Covid-19 Coronavirus Lockdowns Is Taken Out Of Context
Trump Threatens To Issue Executive Order Preventing Biden From Being
Elected President
Trump Baselessly Accuses Doctors Of Overreporting Covid Deaths For
Financial Gain

The next things that came out of his mouth were: "You know some countries
they report differently. If somebody's sick with a heart problem, and they
die of Covid they say they die of a heart problem. If somebody's
terminally ill with cancer and they have Covid, we report them. And you
know doctors get more money and hospitals get more money. Think of this
incentive."

Oh no he didn’t. Trump didn’t suggest that the over 225,000 Covid-19 death
toll in the U.S. is an inflated number, did he? He didn’t suggest that
doctors are helping inflate that number did he? For what? For money? Well,
doctors, you may be paying more federal taxes this year than Trump did in
some past years (assuming that you are paying more than $750), but are you
really making money from cooking the books during the pandemic?

Whenever someone makes such a claim, it helps to provide something called
evidence and facts to support your claim. Otherwise, that person may seem
like he or she is pulling the claim out of a certain part of the body that
may possibly rhyme with lemon grass. However, in his campaign speech,
Trump didn’t seem to provide any such evidence.

As I have covered previously for Forbes, conspiracy theorists have been
claiming that Covid-19 death tolls are being deliberately inflated without
really providing much compelling supporting evidence. For example, there
have been assertions that things like alcohol poisoning and gun shot wound
deaths are somehow being counted as Covid-19 deaths, despite the fact that
gun shot wound deaths should be pretty darn obvious. It’s not as if
doctors tend to say, “besides that life-threatening gun shot wound, is
there anything that we should take care of first? Do you happen to have
any diarrhea?”

I also reported for Forbes in late August how Twitter removed a tweet from
a Mel Q (not to be confused with Mel C or Mel B from the Spice Girls) that
Trump had re-tweeted. The eventually deleted tweet falsely claimed that
the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) had “admitted” that
only 6% of the reported deaths from Covid-19 were actually from the severe
acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV2). The tweet had
twisted what the CDC said like a crescent roll around a hot dog.

So attempts to downplay the impact of the Covid-19 coronavirus pandemic in
the U.S. have been going on for quite a while now. So has blaming others
for the U.S. death toll, which is by far the highest in the world. It
seems like some allies of Trump have been trying to blame everyone besides
the Trump administration and the Hamburglar for the Covid-19 coronavirus
and its accompanying fatality count in this country rather than work on
improving the national response. And now Trump seems to be blaming
doctors, the same group of folks trying hard to prevent the mortality from
getting higher.
Byker
2021-01-14 20:46:31 UTC
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Post by B1ackwater
Nobody is dying from COVID you idiot. It's a big scam to make Trump
look like a moron and for doctors to get paid $$.
Trump is believed and obeyed by millions of white men.
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B1ackwater
2021-04-22 14:25:58 UTC
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Post by Bill Flett
Yes. It's a lie. 100% of deaths listed as COVID-19 *ARE*, in fact,
caused by the virus. This is established and is not in rational
dispute.
Nobody is dying from COVID you idiot. It's a big scam to make Trump
look like a moron and for doctors to get paid $$.


Trump is believed and obeyed by millions of white men.


Tired from working long shifts during the pandemic? Feeling overwhelmed by
seeing suffering and death from Covid-19? Worried about catching the
Covid-19 coronavirus yourself in the clinics and hospitals that you are
working in and then potentially bringing the virus back to your families?
Frustrated by the lack of personal protective equipment (PPE) like N95
face masks? Hungry because you’ve had to skip meals to care for patients?
Well, doctors, don’t despair, here’s something that may turn your frown
upside down. And in this case, upside down means 360 degrees around.

President Donald Trump is now suggesting that you (if you are a doctor)
may be helping inflate the Covid-19 death count in order to, drum roll
please, make more money. Isn’t that what you wanted hear during this
particularly tough time?

Is your jaw still attached to the rest of your face after hearing that?
Yep, that’s what the real estate mogul turned President seemed to say
during a campaign rally on Saturday in Wisconsin. Just take a look at this
Independent video:

Doesn’t this make you feel warm all over? Perhaps. But maybe not in the
way that you’d like.

Trump started this segment of his campaign speech by saying that the
Covid-19 death reporting systems in the U.S. are "a little bit
backwards." Ok, that’s a reasonable statement. Many of the disease
surveillance systems in the U.S. can be a bit rotary telephone-esque. So,
if Trump had stopped there, he could have been making a valid point. Oh,
but he didn’t.
MORE FOR YOU
WHO Warning About Covid-19 Coronavirus Lockdowns Is Taken Out Of Context
Trump Threatens To Issue Executive Order Preventing Biden From Being
Elected President
Trump Baselessly Accuses Doctors Of Overreporting Covid Deaths For
Financial Gain

The next things that came out of his mouth were: "You know some countries
they report differently. If somebody's sick with a heart problem, and they
die of Covid they say they die of a heart problem. If somebody's
terminally ill with cancer and they have Covid, we report them. And you
know doctors get more money and hospitals get more money. Think of this
incentive."

Oh no he didn’t. Trump didn’t suggest that the over 225,000 Covid-19 death
toll in the U.S. is an inflated number, did he? He didn’t suggest that
doctors are helping inflate that number did he? For what? For money? Well,
doctors, you may be paying more federal taxes this year than Trump did in
some past years (assuming that you are paying more than $750), but are you
really making money from cooking the books during the pandemic?

Whenever someone makes such a claim, it helps to provide something called
evidence and facts to support your claim. Otherwise, that person may seem
like he or she is pulling the claim out of a certain part of the body that
may possibly rhyme with lemon grass. However, in his campaign speech,
Trump didn’t seem to provide any such evidence.

As I have covered previously for Forbes, conspiracy theorists have been
claiming that Covid-19 death tolls are being deliberately inflated without
really providing much compelling supporting evidence. For example, there
have been assertions that things like alcohol poisoning and gun shot wound
deaths are somehow being counted as Covid-19 deaths, despite the fact that
gun shot wound deaths should be pretty darn obvious. It’s not as if
doctors tend to say, “besides that life-threatening gun shot wound, is
there anything that we should take care of first? Do you happen to have
any diarrhea?”

I also reported for Forbes in late August how Twitter removed a tweet from
a Mel Q (not to be confused with Mel C or Mel B from the Spice Girls) that
Trump had re-tweeted. The eventually deleted tweet falsely claimed that
the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) had “admitted” that
only 6% of the reported deaths from Covid-19 were actually from the severe
acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV2). The tweet had
twisted what the CDC said like a crescent roll around a hot dog.

So attempts to downplay the impact of the Covid-19 coronavirus pandemic in
the U.S. have been going on for quite a while now. So has blaming others
for the U.S. death toll, which is by far the highest in the world. It
seems like some allies of Trump have been trying to blame everyone besides
the Trump administration and the Hamburglar for the Covid-19 coronavirus
and its accompanying fatality count in this country rather than work on
improving the national response. And now Trump seems to be blaming
doctors, the same group of folks trying hard to prevent the mortality from
getting higher.
B1ackwater
2021-04-23 12:43:21 UTC
Permalink
Post by Bill Flett
Yes. It's a lie. 100% of deaths listed as COVID-19 *ARE*, in fact,
caused by the virus. This is established and is not in rational
dispute.
Nobody is dying from COVID you idiot. It's a big scam to make Trump
look like a moron and for doctors to get paid $$.


Trump is believed and obeyed by millions of white men.


Tired from working long shifts during the pandemic? Feeling overwhelmed by
seeing suffering and death from Covid-19? Worried about catching the
Covid-19 coronavirus yourself in the clinics and hospitals that you are
working in and then potentially bringing the virus back to your families?
Frustrated by the lack of personal protective equipment (PPE) like N95
face masks? Hungry because you’ve had to skip meals to care for patients?
Well, doctors, don’t despair, here’s something that may turn your frown
upside down. And in this case, upside down means 360 degrees around.

President Donald Trump is now suggesting that you (if you are a doctor)
may be helping inflate the Covid-19 death count in order to, drum roll
please, make more money. Isn’t that what you wanted hear during this
particularly tough time?

Is your jaw still attached to the rest of your face after hearing that?
Yep, that’s what the real estate mogul turned President seemed to say
during a campaign rally on Saturday in Wisconsin. Just take a look at this
Independent video:

Doesn’t this make you feel warm all over? Perhaps. But maybe not in the
way that you’d like.

Trump started this segment of his campaign speech by saying that the
Covid-19 death reporting systems in the U.S. are "a little bit
backwards." Ok, that’s a reasonable statement. Many of the disease
surveillance systems in the U.S. can be a bit rotary telephone-esque. So,
if Trump had stopped there, he could have been making a valid point. Oh,
but he didn’t.
MORE FOR YOU
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Trump Threatens To Issue Executive Order Preventing Biden From Being
Elected President
Trump Baselessly Accuses Doctors Of Overreporting Covid Deaths For
Financial Gain

The next things that came out of his mouth were: "You know some countries
they report differently. If somebody's sick with a heart problem, and they
die of Covid they say they die of a heart problem. If somebody's
terminally ill with cancer and they have Covid, we report them. And you
know doctors get more money and hospitals get more money. Think of this
incentive."

Oh no he didn’t. Trump didn’t suggest that the over 225,000 Covid-19 death
toll in the U.S. is an inflated number, did he? He didn’t suggest that
doctors are helping inflate that number did he? For what? For money? Well,
doctors, you may be paying more federal taxes this year than Trump did in
some past years (assuming that you are paying more than $750), but are you
really making money from cooking the books during the pandemic?

Whenever someone makes such a claim, it helps to provide something called
evidence and facts to support your claim. Otherwise, that person may seem
like he or she is pulling the claim out of a certain part of the body that
may possibly rhyme with lemon grass. However, in his campaign speech,
Trump didn’t seem to provide any such evidence.

As I have covered previously for Forbes, conspiracy theorists have been
claiming that Covid-19 death tolls are being deliberately inflated without
really providing much compelling supporting evidence. For example, there
have been assertions that things like alcohol poisoning and gun shot wound
deaths are somehow being counted as Covid-19 deaths, despite the fact that
gun shot wound deaths should be pretty darn obvious. It’s not as if
doctors tend to say, “besides that life-threatening gun shot wound, is
there anything that we should take care of first? Do you happen to have
any diarrhea?”

I also reported for Forbes in late August how Twitter removed a tweet from
a Mel Q (not to be confused with Mel C or Mel B from the Spice Girls) that
Trump had re-tweeted. The eventually deleted tweet falsely claimed that
the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) had “admitted” that
only 6% of the reported deaths from Covid-19 were actually from the severe
acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV2). The tweet had
twisted what the CDC said like a crescent roll around a hot dog.

So attempts to downplay the impact of the Covid-19 coronavirus pandemic in
the U.S. have been going on for quite a while now. So has blaming others
for the U.S. death toll, which is by far the highest in the world. It
seems like some allies of Trump have been trying to blame everyone besides
the Trump administration and the Hamburglar for the Covid-19 coronavirus
and its accompanying fatality count in this country rather than work on
improving the national response. And now Trump seems to be blaming
doctors, the same group of folks trying hard to prevent the mortality from
getting higher.
B1ackwater
2021-04-27 00:31:24 UTC
Permalink
Post by Bill Flett
Yes. It's a lie. 100% of deaths listed as COVID-19 *ARE*, in fact,
caused by the virus. This is established and is not in rational
dispute.
Nobody is dying from COVID you idiot. It's a big scam to make Trump
look like a moron and for doctors to get paid $$.


Trump is believed and obeyed by millions of white men.


Tired from working long shifts during the pandemic? Feeling overwhelmed by
seeing suffering and death from Covid-19? Worried about catching the
Covid-19 coronavirus yourself in the clinics and hospitals that you are
working in and then potentially bringing the virus back to your families?
Frustrated by the lack of personal protective equipment (PPE) like N95
face masks? Hungry because you’ve had to skip meals to care for patients?
Well, doctors, don’t despair, here’s something that may turn your frown
upside down. And in this case, upside down means 360 degrees around.

President Donald Trump is now suggesting that you (if you are a doctor)
may be helping inflate the Covid-19 death count in order to, drum roll
please, make more money. Isn’t that what you wanted hear during this
particularly tough time?

Is your jaw still attached to the rest of your face after hearing that?
Yep, that’s what the real estate mogul turned President seemed to say
during a campaign rally on Saturday in Wisconsin. Just take a look at this
Independent video:

Doesn’t this make you feel warm all over? Perhaps. But maybe not in the
way that you’d like.

Trump started this segment of his campaign speech by saying that the
Covid-19 death reporting systems in the U.S. are "a little bit
backwards." Ok, that’s a reasonable statement. Many of the disease
surveillance systems in the U.S. can be a bit rotary telephone-esque. So,
if Trump had stopped there, he could have been making a valid point. Oh,
but he didn’t.
MORE FOR YOU
WHO Warning About Covid-19 Coronavirus Lockdowns Is Taken Out Of Context
Trump Threatens To Issue Executive Order Preventing Biden From Being
Elected President
Trump Baselessly Accuses Doctors Of Overreporting Covid Deaths For
Financial Gain

The next things that came out of his mouth were: "You know some countries
they report differently. If somebody's sick with a heart problem, and they
die of Covid they say they die of a heart problem. If somebody's
terminally ill with cancer and they have Covid, we report them. And you
know doctors get more money and hospitals get more money. Think of this
incentive."

Oh no he didn’t. Trump didn’t suggest that the over 225,000 Covid-19 death
toll in the U.S. is an inflated number, did he? He didn’t suggest that
doctors are helping inflate that number did he? For what? For money? Well,
doctors, you may be paying more federal taxes this year than Trump did in
some past years (assuming that you are paying more than $750), but are you
really making money from cooking the books during the pandemic?

Whenever someone makes such a claim, it helps to provide something called
evidence and facts to support your claim. Otherwise, that person may seem
like he or she is pulling the claim out of a certain part of the body that
may possibly rhyme with lemon grass. However, in his campaign speech,
Trump didn’t seem to provide any such evidence.

As I have covered previously for Forbes, conspiracy theorists have been
claiming that Covid-19 death tolls are being deliberately inflated without
really providing much compelling supporting evidence. For example, there
have been assertions that things like alcohol poisoning and gun shot wound
deaths are somehow being counted as Covid-19 deaths, despite the fact that
gun shot wound deaths should be pretty darn obvious. It’s not as if
doctors tend to say, “besides that life-threatening gun shot wound, is
there anything that we should take care of first? Do you happen to have
any diarrhea?”

I also reported for Forbes in late August how Twitter removed a tweet from
a Mel Q (not to be confused with Mel C or Mel B from the Spice Girls) that
Trump had re-tweeted. The eventually deleted tweet falsely claimed that
the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) had “admitted” that
only 6% of the reported deaths from Covid-19 were actually from the severe
acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV2). The tweet had
twisted what the CDC said like a crescent roll around a hot dog.

So attempts to downplay the impact of the Covid-19 coronavirus pandemic in
the U.S. have been going on for quite a while now. So has blaming others
for the U.S. death toll, which is by far the highest in the world. It
seems like some allies of Trump have been trying to blame everyone besides
the Trump administration and the Hamburglar for the Covid-19 coronavirus
and its accompanying fatality count in this country rather than work on
improving the national response. And now Trump seems to be blaming
doctors, the same group of folks trying hard to prevent the mortality from
getting higher.
Bill Flett
2020-12-20 04:36:10 UTC
Permalink
Post by AlleyCat
On Sat, 19 Dec 2020 16:31:15 -0800, Bill Flett SAYS...
Post by AlleyCat
94% of All Deaths Listed As Covid Were Not From Covid
That's a lie.
No.
Yes.
BeamMeUpScotty
2020-12-20 16:23:54 UTC
Permalink
Post by AlleyCat
On Sat, 19 Dec 2020 16:31:15 -0800, Bill Flett SAYS...
Post by AlleyCat
94% of All Deaths Listed As Covid Were Not From Covid
That's a lie.
No.
What's ARE lies, coming from a known, settled, beyond rational dispute, liar,
=====
No one, and I mean *no one*, ... rewriting every subject line in hysterical
language, etc.
Like you?
=====
The topic title was "The People Have Spoken" (quoting the judge), YOU changed
it and added a dozen newsgroups to your response. AB
Rudy changes the topic AND titles all the time. AC
No. - Psycho (you)
Really?
Here are just two... not wasting much time on YOUR psycho dumb ass.
=====
Subject: Watch: Rudy will Come Up With Some Kind of Stupid Excuse for His
Ignorance - Bonus: Why Rudy THINKS He's Never Wrong
Subject: Watch: Rudy will Come Kick My Fat Flabby Doughy Fucking ASS! Yes!
=====
Subject: Does The Democrat Party Need The Black Vote? - Better Hope Not, Unless
Stupid Democrat Voters Stay Stupid Like These Idiots
Subject: Re: Does The Democrat Party [snip Schild bullshit]
=====
Rudy's psychosis is characterized by an impaired relationship with reality.
It's a symptom of serious mental disorders. People who are experiencing
psychosis may have delusions.
The person experiencing psychosis may also have thoughts that are contrary to
actual EVIDENCE.
These thoughts are known as delusions. Some people with psychosis may also
experience loss of motivation and social withdrawal.
(like spending ALL day on Usenet, instead of socially interacting)
These experiences can be frightening. They may also cause people who are
experiencing psychosis to hurt themselves or others.
"I can kill you with one hand. You know this."
"Thanks for kicking my faggot ass."
"I've beaten you to a bloody pulp"
"... you you no-fight faggot."
"Kicked your flabby faggot ass again. Yes."
It's important to see a doctor right away if you or someone you know is
experiencing symptoms of psychosis.
depressed mood
sleeping too much or not enough
anxiety
suspiciousness
withdrawal from family and friends
delusions
disorganized speech, such as switching topics erratically
depression
suicidal thoughts or actions
A delusion is a false belief or impression that is firmly held even though it's
contradicted by reality and what is commonly considered true. There are
delusions of paranoia, grandiose delusions, and somatic delusions.
People who are experiencing a delusion of paranoia might think that they are
being followed when they aren't or that secret messages are being sent to them.
Someone with a grandiose delusion will have an exaggerated sense of importance.
Somatic delusion is when a person believes they have a terminal illness, but in
reality they're healthy.
The way it works is the subjects fork and you have different subjects
when the replies go in different directions the subject has to be
modified or it would be misrepresenting the body of the post and
Democrats tell me to stay on topic because they don't want me discussing
the truth, so I change the SUBJECT to keep the topic up to date with the
BODY content of posting. Otherwise you get a body that has nothing to
do with the subject and that's a letdown when you decide to read a post
and it's NOT about the subject, I would rather have the SUBJECT modified
to reflect the actual content.

The really funny part is that the Democrats hate it because then you
discuss stuff that they try to censor out of posts because the Democrats
can't answer it.

The result is the Democrats try to ignore those posts rather than answer
the FACTS and the TRUTH, so when they don't answer I know I was directly
over the target. If I leave the subject alone they read the body
content and then tell me it's off topic.

If someone is fighting with RUDY I like seeing that in the SUBJECT so I
don't need to waste time going to that content to read it, I can see by
the SUBJECT that it's a debate about character trashing rather than
about what interests me. I can also filter out if I want by sin'y
setting up a filter with the <SUBJECT> "RUDY" and "CONTAINS"

Then I don't have to see any discussion of RUDY.
--
That's Karma


*Mama'says*
59B - If the Courts demand scientific proof that GOD exists in a "Scopes
Monkey Trial", and proof that a human life in a uterus is a person, why
don't those same Justices demand scientific DNA proof that gays are NOT
heterosexuals and science that Global Warming really exist?
AlleyCat
2020-12-20 02:13:50 UTC
Permalink
Why'd you change the subject header? YOU said you *NEVER* do that.

"Rudy changes the topic AND titles all the time." - AlleyCat

"No." - Psycho (you)

Ohhhhh.... *I* said "all the time:, so you want to play that childish bullshit
liberal semantics game, and say, "not ALL the time."

OK... Rudy changes the subject field a lot.

Yes.

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On Sat, 19 Dec 2020 16:31:15 -0800, rudy SAYS...
Post by Bill Flett
Post by AlleyCat
94% of All Deaths Listed As Covid Were Not From Covid
That's a lie.
Cite it, or it's a lie.

No cite = fake news

NO difference in dying from the conditions that put you in the hospital,
whether it was Covid or the "common flu" (influenza).

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Influenza: A Serious Threat For Adults With Chronic Health Conditions

The medical community is joining forces to protect adults with certain chronic
health conditions from the serious complications of influenza.

This article was produced for NFID by Scientific American Custom Media, a
division separate from the magazine's board of editors.

December 4, 2019 B.C.C. (before Chinese Covid)

Influenza: A Serious Threat For Adults With Chronic Health Conditions

The influenza virus can exacerbate chronic illnesses, compounding its risk.
Credit: Flu viruses illustration by Shutterstock

Dr. Melissa D. Young is a clinical pharmacist and Certified Diabetes Educator
at the American Association of Diabetes Educators1 who holds a very personal
interest in advocating for annual influenza (flu) vaccination. Twelve years
ago, her mother passed away after an influenza infection was complicated by
bacterial pneumonia. Young's mother had a pre-existing chronic lung condition,
but "she had refused to get a flu vaccine because she mistakenly thought it
would give her the flu," says Young.

It's a sad, but all too common story. According to data collected by the
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention,2 of US adults who were hospitalized
for influenza infection in 2018-2019 with additional information available, 93
percent had at least one underlying medical condition. Despite overwhelming
evidence of the benefits of annual flu vaccination, vaccination rates remain
well below the Healthy People 2020 targets3, leaving a significant portion of
the population vulnerable.
Calling the medical community to action

In the US, nearly half of all adults age 45-64 years, and 80 percent of those
age 65 years and older, have multiple chronic health conditions that put them
at high risk for flu-related complications, including heart attack, stroke,
hospitalization, and even death. To address this public health threat, the
medical community is working collaboratively to protect the most vulnerable
patients.

Influenza viruses cause an inflammatory reaction that can last for several
weeks following acute infection. This flu-related inflammation can exacerbate4
existing chronic conditions, including heart disease, lung disease, and
diabetes. It can also increase the risk of myocardial infarction and stroke
long after the acute phase passes. One study found the incidence of admissions
for acute myocardial infarction was six times higher during the seven days
following laboratory confirmation of influenza infection as during a control
interval5.

Additionally, adults with diabetes6 were six times more likely to be
hospitalized and three times more likely to die from flu-related complications
than people without diabetes.

"Regardless of which influenza strains are prominent in a given year, the
outcomes are always the same," says National Foundation for Infectious Diseases
(NFID) Medical Director William Schaffner, MD7. "Chronic health conditions
predispose patients to serious outcomes from flu."

Yet there remains low awareness of the importance of annual flu vaccination for
adults with chronic health conditions. Despite the abundance of public health
guidance urging people to get vaccinated each year, increasing flu vaccination
rates has proven extremely difficult. Vaccination coverage among adults has
increased slightly over the past decade, but remains about 45 percent, leaving
more than half of US adults vulnerable each year.

In 2018, Young and representatives from various specialty groups reviewed the
dangers of flu in adults with certain chronic health conditions at a multi-
disciplinary round-table hosted by the NFID.

The round-table discussions and conclusions were summarized in an NFID Call to
Action,8 which urges all healthcare professionals to prioritize annual flu
vaccination for adults with chronic health conditions.
U.S. Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar receives his flu shot at
NFID News Conference. Credit: NFID
The roadblocks to vaccination

The science supporting the benefits of annual flu vaccination are clear. "On
average, seasonal influenza vaccination can reduce the chances of getting flu
by between 40-60 percent when circulating strains of the virus are well-matched
to the vaccine," says Schaffner. "But even if a vaccinated individual does
contract flu, the vaccine still provides partial protection and can play a
significant role in preventing serious outcomes, including pneumonia,
hospitalization, and death. It can also help reduce transmission of the flu
virus within communities, adding another layer of protection for chronic
disease patients."

These benefits are particularly strong in people with heart disease. "Data show
that patients who are vaccinated reduce their risk of a cardiovascular event by
one-third compared to those who do not get vaccinated," says Allen J. Taylor,
MD9, representative of the American College of Cardiology at the round-table.

Despite the overwhelming evidence in favor of vaccination, an August 2019 NFID
survey10 found one in four people, who are at higher risk for flu-related
complications, said they did not plan to get vaccinated this season. Of the top
reasons cited for not getting a flu vaccine, 51 percent did not think the flu
vaccine worked, 34 percent were concerned about side effects, and 22 percent
were concerned about contracting flu from the vaccine.

"Many people don't understand the flu," says Young. "They think it's a bad
cold. That's talking point number one. The flu is not just a bad cold. Flu
kills people." CDC estimates11 that in the US, up to 61,000 people died from
flu and related complications between October 2018 and May 2019.

Schaffner is also quick to point out that most of the commonly cited fears
about side effects were unfounded. "Millions of doses of flu vaccines have been
given safely for many years, and side-effects, other than soreness around the
injection site, are rare. And of course, you cannot get flu from a flu
vaccine."

Debunking the myths about flu vaccines has been a challenge, but there is one
source of information patients inherently trust to set the record straight-
healthcare professionals.
Most trusted sources of medical information

"As one of the most trusted sources of medical information, healthcare
professionals have a particularly powerful impact on the decision to
vaccinate," says Schaffner. "One study12 found that, even if patients have
negative attitudes toward vaccines, a physician recommendation can boost
immunization rates as high as 80 percent."

Strategies for improving flu vaccination rates in adults with certain chronic
health conditions including heart disease, diabetes, and lung disease were also
addressed at the 2018 NFID round-table.

The NFID Call to Action recommends that both primary care providers and
specialists stock and insist upon annual flu vaccination, particularly for
patients with chronic health conditions and for adult patients who might have
an undiagnosed condition, or are likely to spread the flu to others.

In addition, the Call to Action also recommends that specialists, such as
cardiologists, pulmonologists, and endocrinologists, routinely incorporate flu
vaccines into patient visits in the fall. If healthcare professionals are
unable to provide flu vaccines in their practice, they should write a
prescription for a flu vaccine that can be administered at a local pharmacy, to
reinforce the importance and urgency of annual flu vaccination, and increase
patient compliance.

The urgency of this public health issue and the need to increase awareness
among specialty groups has energized supporters of the NFID Call to Action to
work together to educate their stakeholders.

The American College of Cardiology is using its CardioSmart platform13 to reach
cardiologists, nurses, and other members of the healthcare team. This platform
supplies tools and resources to educate patients about the importance of annual
flu vaccines. Among the resources are infographics14 for waiting and exam
rooms, mobile apps with synthesized guideline recommendations and vaccination
reminders.

NFID has also created a robust online toolkit15 with materials geared toward
educating both patients and specialty physicians about the dangerous impact of
flu on adults with chronic health conditions. The toolkit includes infographics
and public service announcements to help spread awareness about the critical
issue.

"Collaborative efforts with government agencies, industry, and other medical
specialty societies are crucial for helping to reach the widest clinician and
patient audiences possible," explains Taylor.

Young also makes a point of individualizing her advice to patients during
follow-up visits. "It's just part of their healthcare. It's simply what they do
every year along with everything else," she says. Young emphasizes the
importance of clarifying the potential for chronic diseases to worsen if
patients are not vaccinated against flu, as well as the risk they run of losing
their independence.

"It's our responsibility as healthcare professionals to care for our patients.
Flu vaccination is part of it and it's our responsibility to be educated about
it," says Young.
A unified stance against flu

Since publication in September 2018, more than 20 organizations have signed on
to support the NFID Call to Action to improve awareness of both the dangers of
flu among adults with chronic health conditions and the benefits of annual
vaccination. This cooperation is vital to protecting high-risk adults.

"Although we saw a slight increase in flu vaccination rates among US adults
compared to the 2017-2018 season, fewer than half of all US adults were
vaccinated during the 2018-2019 flu season. Simply put, vaccination coverage
needs to increase to ensure optimal protection against flu," says Schaffner.
"The responsibility to protect public health is shared amongst many entities,
including the medical community, patient advocacy groups, government, and
industry. Teamwork is critical in the fight against disease, and no single
entity has complete responsibility. Many messengers with a unified message can
create a chorus promoting flu prevention."

References

Melissa D. Young, PharmD, RPh, BC-ADM, CDE is a Clinical Pharmacy Specialist
for the Department of Veterans Affairs and a diabetes care and education
specialist at the American Association of Diabetes Educators.

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Update: Influenza Activity in the
United States During the 2018-19 Season and Composition of the 2019-20
Influenza Vaccine. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/68/wr/mm6824a3.htm.
Accessed: November 7, 2019.

HealthyPeople.gov 2020 targets: https://www.healthypeople.gov/2020/topics-
objectives/topic/immunization-and-infectious-diseases

NFID Clinical updates. The dangers of influenza and benefits of vaccination in
adults with chronic health conditions. Infect. Dis. Clin. Pract. 26, 313-321
(2018).

Kwong, J. C. et al. Acute myocardial infarction after laboratory-confirmed
influenza infection. N. Engl. J. Med. 378, 345-353 (2018).

NFID. Flu diabetes fact sheet. Available: https://www.nfid.org/wp-
content/uploads/2019/11/Diabetes-Fact-Sheet-Final.pdf. Accessed November 7,
2019.

William Schaffner, MD, professor of Preventive Medicine and Infectious Diseases
at Vanderbilt University Medical Center, is the Medical Director at NFID.

National Foundation for Infectious Diseases. Call to Action: The dangers of
influenza and benefits of vaccination in adults with chronic health conditions.
Available https://www.nfid.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/cta-dangers-of-
influenza-in-adults-with-chronic-health-c.pdf. Accessed November 7, 2019.

Allen J. Taylor, MD is the chair of cardiology at MedStar Heart and Vascular
Institute in Washington DC and a representative of the American College of
Cardiology

NFID Survey: Attitudes about influenza and pneumococcal disease prevention.
Available: https://www.nfid.org/about-nfid/newsroom/news-conferences/2019-nfid-
influenza-pneumococcal-disease-news-conference/national-poll-attitudes-about-
flu-and-pneumococcal-disease-prevention Accessed November 7, 2019.

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. 2018-2019 U.S. Flu Season:
Preliminary Burden Estimates.https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-
in-season-estimates.htm. Accessed November 7, 2019.

Nichol, K. L. et al. Factors associated with influenza and pneumococcal
vaccination behavior among high-risk adults. J. Gen. Intern. Med. 11, 673-677
(1996).

https://www.cardiosmart.org/. Accessed November 7, 2019.

NFID. Flu and chronic health conditions toolkit. Available:
https://www.nfid.org/toolkits/flu-and-chronic-health-conditions/. Accessed
November 7, 2019.

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Black Population in US: 47.8 million

Hispanic Population in US: 60.6 million

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Hispanics Show 'Less Consistent Adherence' to Social Distancing, Mask-Wearing

Hispanics make up a high percentage of COVID-19 cases, are not wearing masks
and are not socially distancing as much as the rest of the population.

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Why Some People of Color Say They Won't Wear Homemade Masks

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/07/us/face-masks-ethnicity-coronavirus-cdc-
trnd/index.html

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Blacks And Hispanics May Fear Wearing Masks In Public

HUNTSVILLE, Ala. - Statistics are showing a disproportionate number of African
Americans are getting sick and dying of coronavirus.

Still, some minorities say they don't want to wear masks in public.

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People of Color Won't Be Required to Wear Masks

LINCOLN COUNTY, Ore. - People of color are exempt from an Oregon county's mask
mandate over concerns about racial profiling.

So... they can spread Covid-19 because they don't HAVE to wear a mask, JUST to
keep them from being profiled?

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Hispanic And Black Children Facing Higher Rates Of COVID-19 Hospitalization:
CDC

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/hispanic-and-black-children-facing-higher-
rates-of-covid-19-hospitalization-cdc/ar-BB17J7Ur

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CNN: CDC Data: Covid-19 Hit Hispanics, Blacks And Those With Underlying
Conditions Harder

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/20/politics/cdc-covid-charts-black-hispanic-
underlying-conditions/index.html

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Hispanics and Blacks Are Hardest Hit by COVID-19 in New York City

https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2020-04-08/coronavirus-
disproportionally-kills-hispanics-and-blacks-in-new-york-city

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Why Black And Hispanic Residents Are More Likely To Become Infected By The
Coronavirus

https://www.poynter.org/reporting-editing/2020/why-black-and-hispanic-
residents-are-more-likely-to-become-infected-by-the-coronavirus/

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Hispanic Americans Being Hit Hard By COVID-19

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200629/hispanic-americans-being-hit-hard-by-
covid-19#1

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COVID-19 Is Killing Over Twice As Many Black Americans As Whites

Black individuals are nearly three times as likely to contract COVID-19 and
twice as likely to die from the virus, compared with white individuals,
according to a new report by the National Urban League. Researchers have
struggled to measure with precision the race gaps in COVID-19 because much of
the early data reported by hospitals did not include information about
patients' race - as of early August, Pennsylvania has reported race data for
about half of its cases.

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Doctors Worry About COVID's Effects on Hispanics

Hispanic Americans, who make up 18.3% of the country's population, represent
32.7 % of new coronavirus cases nationwide, according to data from the CDC.

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Health Concerns From COVID-19 Much Higher Among Hispanics and Blacks Than
Whites

About half of Hispanic adults (49%) are very concerned about unknowingly
spreading COVID-19 to others, compared with 38% of black adults and 28% of
white adults. And Hispanics (43%) and blacks (31%) are far more likely than
whites (18%) to be very concerned over getting COVID-19 and needing to be
hospitalized.

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CDC: Blacks, Hispanics Dying of COVID-19 at Disproportionately High Rates

Black and Hispanic Americans were disproportionately more likely to die of
COVID-19 during the spring and summer months, a new indicator that the corona
virus's toll is falling most heavily on under-served and minority communities.


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Here are some more DUMB ASS DEMOCRATS, telling us it's just perfectly OK and
fine to breath in other people's faces and go to the movies, a parade, and
anything else you WANT to do:

http://youtu.be/tNflR2Ia7Hc

Bill de Blasio(D):

"Since I'm encouraging New Yorkers to go on with your lives & get out on the
town despite Coronavirus, I thought I would offer some suggestions. Here's the
first: thru Thurs 3/5 go see "The Traitor" @FilmLinc. If "The Wire" was a true
story & set in Italy, it would be this film."

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Nancy Pelosi(D):

Maybe like Nancy Pelosi telling people to DEFINITELY acquire the virus, by
going to Chinatown?

"Come to Chinatown, here we are...we're... again... careful... safe... and
come join us." - "Everything is fine" and "all is well."

So eloquent.

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Oxiris Barbot(D):, a pediatrician who has served as the Commissioner of
Health of the City of New York since 2018?

"The risk to New Yorkers for Coronavirus is low, and that our preparedness as a
city is very high."

"There is no reason not to take the subway, not to take the bus, not to go out
to your favorite restaurant, and certainly not to miss the parade next Sunday."

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New York State Sen. John Liu(D):

"But there's really no need to panic and to avoid activities that we always do
as New Yorkers... we are hardy people."

"As an Asian-American, I've been somewhat disturbed, if not outright appalled,
by some of the comment or gestures that I have seen."

"Diseases originate from anywhere, or from pahticulah praces in the world."

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Anthony Fauci:

Fauci Lied... people died.

It's been a long way down for Anthony Fauci, M.D. - from virtual dictator of a
nation under virtual house arrest (and purported sex symbol) to laughingstock
caught lying and blaming the public for his fall.

"Timeline: Dr. Anthony Fauci Repeatedly Downplayed Coronavirus Threat"

"Dr. Fauci Made the Coronavirus Pandemic Worse by Lying About Masks"

"Dr. Fauci Now Says Second Coronavirus Wave 'Not Inevitable'"

"Fauci Falls, Fumbles Forbidding Football"

"Fauci Caught On Camera Contradicting Himself About Severity of Coronavirus"

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Black Population in US: 47.8 million

Hispanic Population in US: 60.6 million

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Hispanics Show 'Less Consistent Adherence' to Social Distancing, Mask-Wearing

Hispanics make up a high percentage of COVID-19 cases, are not wearing masks
and are not socially distancing as much as the rest of the population.

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Why Some People of Color Say They Won't Wear Homemade Masks

https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/07/us/face-masks-ethnicity-coronavirus-cdc-
trnd/index.html

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Blacks And Hispanics May Fear Wearing Masks In Public

HUNTSVILLE, Ala. - Statistics are showing a disproportionate number of African
Americans are getting sick and dying of coronavirus.

Still, some minorities say they don't want to wear masks in public.

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People of Color Won't Be Required to Wear Masks

LINCOLN COUNTY, Ore. - People of color are exempt from an Oregon county's mask
mandate over concerns about racial profiling.

So... they can spread Covid-19 because they don't HAVE to wear a mask, JUST to
keep them from being profiled?

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Hispanic And Black Children Facing Higher Rates Of COVID-19 Hospitalization:
CDC

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/hispanic-and-black-children-facing-higher-
rates-of-covid-19-hospitalization-cdc/ar-BB17J7Ur

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CNN: CDC Data: Covid-19 Hit Hispanics, Blacks And Those With Underlying
Conditions Harder

https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/20/politics/cdc-covid-charts-black-hispanic-
underlying-conditions/index.html

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Hispanics and Blacks Are Hardest Hit by COVID-19 in New York City

https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2020-04-08/coronavirus-
disproportionally-kills-hispanics-and-blacks-in-new-york-city

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Why Black And Hispanic Residents Are More Likely To Become Infected By The
Coronavirus

https://www.poynter.org/reporting-editing/2020/why-black-and-hispanic-
residents-are-more-likely-to-become-infected-by-the-coronavirus/

=====

Hispanic Americans Being Hit Hard By COVID-19

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200629/hispanic-americans-being-hit-hard-by-
covid-19#1

=====

COVID-19 Is Killing Over Twice As Many Black Americans As Whites

Black individuals are nearly three times as likely to contract COVID-19 and
twice as likely to die from the virus, compared with white individuals,
according to a new report by the National Urban League. Researchers have
struggled to measure with precision the race gaps in COVID-19 because much of
the early data reported by hospitals did not include information about
patients' race - as of early August, Pennsylvania has reported race data for
about half of its cases.

=====

Doctors Worry About COVID's Effects on Hispanics

Hispanic Americans, who make up 18.3% of the country's population, represent
32.7 % of new coronavirus cases nationwide, according to data from the CDC.

=====

Health Concerns From COVID-19 Much Higher Among Hispanics and Blacks Than
Whites

About half of Hispanic adults (49%) are very concerned about unknowingly
spreading COVID-19 to others, compared with 38% of black adults and 28% of
white adults. And Hispanics (43%) and blacks (31%) are far more likely than
whites (18%) to be very concerned over getting COVID-19 and needing to be
hospitalized.

=====

CDC: Blacks, Hispanics Dying of COVID-19 at Disproportionately High Rates

Black and Hispanic Americans were disproportionately more likely to die of
COVID-19 during the spring and summer months, a new indicator that the corona
virus's toll is falling most heavily on under-served and minority communities.
usenet is full of fucked-in-the-head psychos, like rudy - this shit doesn't
fly anywhere else, so they come here to express their bullshit tinfoil hat
conspiracies
Operation warp speed :1ne first time \ni the history of ne world where a
vaccine is developed during tie first year ofi1ae. Pandemic)
(-trump doesn't know what \ he's talking
Tn is is bull sot it's not science it's political science

Back n august i promised you a vaccine [3\( the end of n-ie year \a hen i
promise, i iliveri.
Bill Flett
2020-12-20 02:26:35 UTC
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Post by AlleyCat
Why'd you change the subject header?
Oh, that is *FUCKING* rich, coming from the hysterical, estrogen-oozing
squat-to-piss faggot who changes the subject line to some hysterical,
estrogen-oozing squat-to-piss faggot *shrieking* every time she posts!
Post by AlleyCat
YOU said you *NEVER* do that.
No, I didn't say that, you pole-puffing squat-to-piss estrogen oozing faggot.
Post by AlleyCat
"Rudy changes the topic AND titles all the time." - AlleyPussyBitch, pole-puffing squat-to-piss *NO-FIGHT* fairy
"No." - Prof. Canoza, manliest of men
Right. I don't do it all the time. I actually do it very seldom, but I
*especially* like doing it to a cocksucking *NO-FIGHT* queer like you.

Shut up, Schild, you *NO-FIGHT* queer.
xdmod2
2020-12-20 04:26:19 UTC
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Post by Bill Flett
Post by AlleyCat
Why'd you change the subject header?
Oh, that is *FUCKING* rich, coming from the hysterical, estrogen-oozing
squat-to-piss faggot who changes the subject line to some hysterical,
estrogen-oozing squat-to-piss faggot *shrieking* every time she posts!
Post by AlleyCat
YOU said you *NEVER* do that.
No, I didn't say that, you pole-puffing squat-to-piss estrogen oozing faggot.
Post by AlleyCat
"Rudy changes the topic AND titles all the time." - AlleyPussyBitch,
pole-puffing squat-to-piss *NO-FIGHT* fairy
"No." - Prof. Canoza, manliest of men
Right. I don't do it all the time. I actually do it very seldom, but I
*especially* like doing it to a cocksucking *NO-FIGHT* queer like you.
Shut up, Schild, you *NO-FIGHT* queer.
Why are only Americans getting sick from COVID? It must be a hoax against
Trump, some subersive master plan to see him defeated in the 2020 election.
xdmod2
2021-01-03 15:59:13 UTC
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Post by Bill Flett
Post by AlleyCat
Why'd you change the subject header?
Oh, that is *FUCKING* rich, coming from the hysterical, estrogen-oozing
squat-to-piss faggot who changes the subject line to some hysterical,
estrogen-oozing squat-to-piss faggot *shrieking* every time she posts!
Post by AlleyCat
YOU said you *NEVER* do that.
No, I didn't say that, you pole-puffing squat-to-piss estrogen oozing faggot.
Post by AlleyCat
"Rudy changes the topic AND titles all the time." - AlleyPussyBitch,
pole-puffing squat-to-piss *NO-FIGHT* fairy
"No." - Prof. Canoza, manliest of men
Right. I don't do it all the time. I actually do it very seldom, but I
*especially* like doing it to a cocksucking *NO-FIGHT* queer like you.
Shut up, Schild, you *NO-FIGHT* queer.
Why are only Americans getting sick from COVID? It must be a hoax against
Trump, some subersive master plan to see him defeated in the 2020 election.
xdmod2
2021-01-13 22:48:00 UTC
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Post by Bill Flett
Post by AlleyCat
Why'd you change the subject header?
Oh, that is *FUCKING* rich, coming from the hysterical, estrogen-oozing
squat-to-piss faggot who changes the subject line to some hysterical,
estrogen-oozing squat-to-piss faggot *shrieking* every time she posts!
Post by AlleyCat
YOU said you *NEVER* do that.
No, I didn't say that, you pole-puffing squat-to-piss estrogen oozing faggot.
Post by AlleyCat
"Rudy changes the topic AND titles all the time." - AlleyPussyBitch,
pole-puffing squat-to-piss *NO-FIGHT* fairy
"No." - Prof. Canoza, manliest of men
Right. I don't do it all the time. I actually do it very seldom, but I
*especially* like doing it to a cocksucking *NO-FIGHT* queer like you.
Shut up, Schild, you *NO-FIGHT* queer.
Why are only Americans getting sick from COVID? It must be a hoax against
Trump, some subersive master plan to see him defeated in the 2020 election.
xdmod2
2021-04-22 14:25:43 UTC
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Post by Bill Flett
Post by AlleyCat
Why'd you change the subject header?
Oh, that is *FUCKING* rich, coming from the hysterical, estrogen-oozing
squat-to-piss faggot who changes the subject line to some hysterical,
estrogen-oozing squat-to-piss faggot *shrieking* every time she posts!
Post by AlleyCat
YOU said you *NEVER* do that.
No, I didn't say that, you pole-puffing squat-to-piss estrogen oozing faggot.
Post by AlleyCat
"Rudy changes the topic AND titles all the time." - AlleyPussyBitch,
pole-puffing squat-to-piss *NO-FIGHT* fairy
"No." - Prof. Canoza, manliest of men
Right. I don't do it all the time. I actually do it very seldom, but I
*especially* like doing it to a cocksucking *NO-FIGHT* queer like you.
Shut up, Schild, you *NO-FIGHT* queer.
Why are only Americans getting sick from COVID? It must be a hoax against
Trump, some subersive master plan to see him defeated in the 2020 election.
xdmod2
2021-04-23 12:43:21 UTC
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Post by Bill Flett
Post by AlleyCat
Why'd you change the subject header?
Oh, that is *FUCKING* rich, coming from the hysterical, estrogen-oozing
squat-to-piss faggot who changes the subject line to some hysterical,
estrogen-oozing squat-to-piss faggot *shrieking* every time she posts!
Post by AlleyCat
YOU said you *NEVER* do that.
No, I didn't say that, you pole-puffing squat-to-piss estrogen oozing faggot.
Post by AlleyCat
"Rudy changes the topic AND titles all the time." - AlleyPussyBitch,
pole-puffing squat-to-piss *NO-FIGHT* fairy
"No." - Prof. Canoza, manliest of men
Right. I don't do it all the time. I actually do it very seldom, but I
*especially* like doing it to a cocksucking *NO-FIGHT* queer like you.
Shut up, Schild, you *NO-FIGHT* queer.
Why are only Americans getting sick from COVID? It must be a hoax against
Trump, some subersive master plan to see him defeated in the 2020 election.
xdmod2
2021-04-27 00:31:24 UTC
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Post by Bill Flett
Post by AlleyCat
Why'd you change the subject header?
Oh, that is *FUCKING* rich, coming from the hysterical, estrogen-oozing
squat-to-piss faggot who changes the subject line to some hysterical,
estrogen-oozing squat-to-piss faggot *shrieking* every time she posts!
Post by AlleyCat
YOU said you *NEVER* do that.
No, I didn't say that, you pole-puffing squat-to-piss estrogen oozing faggot.
Post by AlleyCat
"Rudy changes the topic AND titles all the time." - AlleyPussyBitch,
pole-puffing squat-to-piss *NO-FIGHT* fairy
"No." - Prof. Canoza, manliest of men
Right. I don't do it all the time. I actually do it very seldom, but I
*especially* like doing it to a cocksucking *NO-FIGHT* queer like you.
Shut up, Schild, you *NO-FIGHT* queer.
Why are only Americans getting sick from COVID? It must be a hoax against
Trump, some subersive master plan to see him defeated in the 2020 election.
xdmod2
2021-05-23 22:50:35 UTC
Permalink
Post by Bill Flett
Post by AlleyCat
Why'd you change the subject header?
Oh, that is *FUCKING* rich, coming from the hysterical, estrogen-oozing
squat-to-piss faggot who changes the subject line to some hysterical,
estrogen-oozing squat-to-piss faggot *shrieking* every time she posts!
Post by AlleyCat
YOU said you *NEVER* do that.
No, I didn't say that, you pole-puffing squat-to-piss estrogen oozing faggot.
Post by AlleyCat
"Rudy changes the topic AND titles all the time." - AlleyPussyBitch,
pole-puffing squat-to-piss *NO-FIGHT* fairy
"No." - Prof. Canoza, manliest of men
Right. I don't do it all the time. I actually do it very seldom, but I
*especially* like doing it to a cocksucking *NO-FIGHT* queer like you.
Shut up, Schild, you *NO-FIGHT* queer.
Why are only Americans getting sick from COVID? It must be a hoax against
Trump, some subersive master plan to see him defeated in the 2020 election.
Greg Carr
2020-12-21 10:05:50 UTC
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Whatever you anonymous posting idiot and chronic daily liar.
Post by AlleyCat
Why'd you change the subject header? YOU said you *NEVER* do that.
"Rudy changes the topic AND titles all the time." - AlleyCat
"No." - Psycho (you)
Ohhhhh.... *I* said "all the time:, so you want to play that childish bullshit
liberal semantics game, and say, "not ALL the time."
OK... Rudy changes the subject field a lot.
Yes.
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On Sat, 19 Dec 2020 16:31:15 -0800, rudy SAYS...
Post by Bill Flett
Post by AlleyCat
94% of All Deaths Listed As Covid Were Not From Covid
That's a lie.
Cite it, or it's a lie.
No cite = fake news
NO difference in dying from the conditions that put you in the hospital,
whether it was Covid or the "common flu" (influenza).
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Influenza: A Serious Threat For Adults With Chronic Health Conditions
The medical community is joining forces to protect adults with certain chronic
health conditions from the serious complications of influenza.
This article was produced for NFID by Scientific American Custom Media, a
division separate from the magazine's board of editors.
December 4, 2019 B.C.C. (before Chinese Covid)
Influenza: A Serious Threat For Adults With Chronic Health Conditions
The influenza virus can exacerbate chronic illnesses, compounding its risk.
Credit: Flu viruses illustration by Shutterstock
Dr. Melissa D. Young is a clinical pharmacist and Certified Diabetes Educator
at the American Association of Diabetes Educators1 who holds a very personal
interest in advocating for annual influenza (flu) vaccination. Twelve years
ago, her mother passed away after an influenza infection was complicated by
bacterial pneumonia. Young's mother had a pre-existing chronic lung condition,
but "she had refused to get a flu vaccine because she mistakenly thought it
would give her the flu," says Young.
It's a sad, but all too common story. According to data collected by the
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention,2 of US adults who were hospitalized
for influenza infection in 2018-2019 with additional information available, 93
percent had at least one underlying medical condition. Despite overwhelming
evidence of the benefits of annual flu vaccination, vaccination rates remain
well below the Healthy People 2020 targets3, leaving a significant portion of
the population vulnerable.
Calling the medical community to action
In the US, nearly half of all adults age 45-64 years, and 80 percent of those
age 65 years and older, have multiple chronic health conditions that put them
at high risk for flu-related complications, including heart attack, stroke,
hospitalization, and even death. To address this public health threat, the
medical community is working collaboratively to protect the most vulnerable
patients.
Influenza viruses cause an inflammatory reaction that can last for several
weeks following acute infection. This flu-related inflammation can exacerbate4
existing chronic conditions, including heart disease, lung disease, and
diabetes. It can also increase the risk of myocardial infarction and stroke
long after the acute phase passes. One study found the incidence of admissions
for acute myocardial infarction was six times higher during the seven days
following laboratory confirmation of influenza infection as during a control
interval5.
Additionally, adults with diabetes6 were six times more likely to be
hospitalized and three times more likely to die from flu-related complications
than people without diabetes.
"Regardless of which influenza strains are prominent in a given year, the
outcomes are always the same," says National Foundation for Infectious Diseases
(NFID) Medical Director William Schaffner, MD7. "Chronic health conditions
predispose patients to serious outcomes from flu."
Yet there remains low awareness of the importance of annual flu vaccination for
adults with chronic health conditions. Despite the abundance of public health
guidance urging people to get vaccinated each year, increasing flu vaccination
rates has proven extremely difficult. Vaccination coverage among adults has
increased slightly over the past decade, but remains about 45 percent, leaving
more than half of US adults vulnerable each year.
In 2018, Young and representatives from various specialty groups reviewed the
dangers of flu in adults with certain chronic health conditions at a multi-
disciplinary round-table hosted by the NFID.
The round-table discussions and conclusions were summarized in an NFID Call to
Action,8 which urges all healthcare professionals to prioritize annual flu
vaccination for adults with chronic health conditions.
U.S. Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar receives his flu shot at
NFID News Conference. Credit: NFID
The roadblocks to vaccination
The science supporting the benefits of annual flu vaccination are clear. "On
average, seasonal influenza vaccination can reduce the chances of getting flu
by between 40-60 percent when circulating strains of the virus are well-matched
to the vaccine," says Schaffner. "But even if a vaccinated individual does
contract flu, the vaccine still provides partial protection and can play a
significant role in preventing serious outcomes, including pneumonia,
hospitalization, and death. It can also help reduce transmission of the flu
virus within communities, adding another layer of protection for chronic
disease patients."
These benefits are particularly strong in people with heart disease. "Data show
that patients who are vaccinated reduce their risk of a cardiovascular event by
one-third compared to those who do not get vaccinated," says Allen J. Taylor,
MD9, representative of the American College of Cardiology at the round-table.
Despite the overwhelming evidence in favor of vaccination, an August 2019 NFID
survey10 found one in four people, who are at higher risk for flu-related
complications, said they did not plan to get vaccinated this season. Of the top
reasons cited for not getting a flu vaccine, 51 percent did not think the flu
vaccine worked, 34 percent were concerned about side effects, and 22 percent
were concerned about contracting flu from the vaccine.
"Many people don't understand the flu," says Young. "They think it's a bad
cold. That's talking point number one. The flu is not just a bad cold. Flu
kills people." CDC estimates11 that in the US, up to 61,000 people died from
flu and related complications between October 2018 and May 2019.
Schaffner is also quick to point out that most of the commonly cited fears
about side effects were unfounded. "Millions of doses of flu vaccines have been
given safely for many years, and side-effects, other than soreness around the
injection site, are rare. And of course, you cannot get flu from a flu
vaccine."
Debunking the myths about flu vaccines has been a challenge, but there is one
source of information patients inherently trust to set the record straight-
healthcare professionals.
Most trusted sources of medical information
"As one of the most trusted sources of medical information, healthcare
professionals have a particularly powerful impact on the decision to
vaccinate," says Schaffner. "One study12 found that, even if patients have
negative attitudes toward vaccines, a physician recommendation can boost
immunization rates as high as 80 percent."
Strategies for improving flu vaccination rates in adults with certain chronic
health conditions including heart disease, diabetes, and lung disease were also
addressed at the 2018 NFID round-table.
The NFID Call to Action recommends that both primary care providers and
specialists stock and insist upon annual flu vaccination, particularly for
patients with chronic health conditions and for adult patients who might have
an undiagnosed condition, or are likely to spread the flu to others.
In addition, the Call to Action also recommends that specialists, such as
cardiologists, pulmonologists, and endocrinologists, routinely incorporate flu
vaccines into patient visits in the fall. If healthcare professionals are
unable to provide flu vaccines in their practice, they should write a
prescription for a flu vaccine that can be administered at a local pharmacy, to
reinforce the importance and urgency of annual flu vaccination, and increase
patient compliance.
The urgency of this public health issue and the need to increase awareness
among specialty groups has energized supporters of the NFID Call to Action to
work together to educate their stakeholders.
The American College of Cardiology is using its CardioSmart platform13 to reach
cardiologists, nurses, and other members of the healthcare team. This platform
supplies tools and resources to educate patients about the importance of annual
flu vaccines. Among the resources are infographics14 for waiting and exam
rooms, mobile apps with synthesized guideline recommendations and vaccination
reminders.
NFID has also created a robust online toolkit15 with materials geared toward
educating both patients and specialty physicians about the dangerous impact of
flu on adults with chronic health conditions. The toolkit includes infographics
and public service announcements to help spread awareness about the critical
issue.
"Collaborative efforts with government agencies, industry, and other medical
specialty societies are crucial for helping to reach the widest clinician and
patient audiences possible," explains Taylor.
Young also makes a point of individualizing her advice to patients during
follow-up visits. "It's just part of their healthcare. It's simply what they do
every year along with everything else," she says. Young emphasizes the
importance of clarifying the potential for chronic diseases to worsen if
patients are not vaccinated against flu, as well as the risk they run of losing
their independence.
"It's our responsibility as healthcare professionals to care for our patients.
Flu vaccination is part of it and it's our responsibility to be educated about
it," says Young.
A unified stance against flu
Since publication in September 2018, more than 20 organizations have signed on
to support the NFID Call to Action to improve awareness of both the dangers of
flu among adults with chronic health conditions and the benefits of annual
vaccination. This cooperation is vital to protecting high-risk adults.
"Although we saw a slight increase in flu vaccination rates among US adults
compared to the 2017-2018 season, fewer than half of all US adults were
vaccinated during the 2018-2019 flu season. Simply put, vaccination coverage
needs to increase to ensure optimal protection against flu," says Schaffner.
"The responsibility to protect public health is shared amongst many entities,
including the medical community, patient advocacy groups, government, and
industry. Teamwork is critical in the fight against disease, and no single
entity has complete responsibility. Many messengers with a unified message can
create a chorus promoting flu prevention."
References
Melissa D. Young, PharmD, RPh, BC-ADM, CDE is a Clinical Pharmacy Specialist
for the Department of Veterans Affairs and a diabetes care and education
specialist at the American Association of Diabetes Educators.
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Update: Influenza Activity in the
United States During the 2018-19 Season and Composition of the 2019-20
Influenza Vaccine. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/68/wr/mm6824a3.htm.
Accessed: November 7, 2019.
HealthyPeople.gov 2020 targets: https://www.healthypeople.gov/2020/topics-
objectives/topic/immunization-and-infectious-diseases
NFID Clinical updates. The dangers of influenza and benefits of vaccination in
adults with chronic health conditions. Infect. Dis. Clin. Pract. 26, 313-321
(2018).
Kwong, J. C. et al. Acute myocardial infarction after laboratory-confirmed
influenza infection. N. Engl. J. Med. 378, 345-353 (2018).
NFID. Flu diabetes fact sheet. Available: https://www.nfid.org/wp-
content/uploads/2019/11/Diabetes-Fact-Sheet-Final.pdf. Accessed November 7,
2019.
William Schaffner, MD, professor of Preventive Medicine and Infectious Diseases
at Vanderbilt University Medical Center, is the Medical Director at NFID.
National Foundation for Infectious Diseases. Call to Action: The dangers of
influenza and benefits of vaccination in adults with chronic health conditions.
Available https://www.nfid.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/cta-dangers-of-
influenza-in-adults-with-chronic-health-c.pdf. Accessed November 7, 2019.
Allen J. Taylor, MD is the chair of cardiology at MedStar Heart and Vascular
Institute in Washington DC and a representative of the American College of
Cardiology
NFID Survey: Attitudes about influenza and pneumococcal disease prevention.
Available: https://www.nfid.org/about-nfid/newsroom/news-conferences/2019-nfid-
influenza-pneumococcal-disease-news-conference/national-poll-attitudes-about-
flu-and-pneumococcal-disease-prevention Accessed November 7, 2019.
Preliminary Burden Estimates.https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-
in-season-estimates.htm. Accessed November 7, 2019.
Nichol, K. L. et al. Factors associated with influenza and pneumococcal
vaccination behavior among high-risk adults. J. Gen. Intern. Med. 11, 673-677
(1996).
https://www.cardiosmart.org/. Accessed November 7, 2019.
https://www.nfid.org/toolkits/flu-and-chronic-health-conditions/. Accessed
November 7, 2019.
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Black Population in US: 47.8 million
Hispanic Population in US: 60.6 million
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Hispanics Show 'Less Consistent Adherence' to Social Distancing, Mask-Wearing
Hispanics make up a high percentage of COVID-19 cases, are not wearing masks
and are not socially distancing as much as the rest of the population.
=====
Why Some People of Color Say They Won't Wear Homemade Masks
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/07/us/face-masks-ethnicity-coronavirus-cdc-
trnd/index.html
=====
Blacks And Hispanics May Fear Wearing Masks In Public
HUNTSVILLE, Ala. - Statistics are showing a disproportionate number of African
Americans are getting sick and dying of coronavirus.
Still, some minorities say they don't want to wear masks in public.
=====
People of Color Won't Be Required to Wear Masks
LINCOLN COUNTY, Ore. - People of color are exempt from an Oregon county's mask
mandate over concerns about racial profiling.
So... they can spread Covid-19 because they don't HAVE to wear a mask, JUST to
keep them from being profiled?
=====
CDC
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/hispanic-and-black-children-facing-higher-
rates-of-covid-19-hospitalization-cdc/ar-BB17J7Ur
=====
CNN: CDC Data: Covid-19 Hit Hispanics, Blacks And Those With Underlying
Conditions Harder
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/20/politics/cdc-covid-charts-black-hispanic-
underlying-conditions/index.html
=====
Hispanics and Blacks Are Hardest Hit by COVID-19 in New York City
https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2020-04-08/coronavirus-
disproportionally-kills-hispanics-and-blacks-in-new-york-city
=====
Why Black And Hispanic Residents Are More Likely To Become Infected By The
Coronavirus
https://www.poynter.org/reporting-editing/2020/why-black-and-hispanic-
residents-are-more-likely-to-become-infected-by-the-coronavirus/
=====
Hispanic Americans Being Hit Hard By COVID-19
https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200629/hispanic-americans-being-hit-hard-by-
covid-19#1
=====
COVID-19 Is Killing Over Twice As Many Black Americans As Whites
Black individuals are nearly three times as likely to contract COVID-19 and
twice as likely to die from the virus, compared with white individuals,
according to a new report by the National Urban League. Researchers have
struggled to measure with precision the race gaps in COVID-19 because much of
the early data reported by hospitals did not include information about
patients' race - as of early August, Pennsylvania has reported race data for
about half of its cases.
=====
Doctors Worry About COVID's Effects on Hispanics
Hispanic Americans, who make up 18.3% of the country's population, represent
32.7 % of new coronavirus cases nationwide, according to data from the CDC.
=====
Health Concerns From COVID-19 Much Higher Among Hispanics and Blacks Than
Whites
About half of Hispanic adults (49%) are very concerned about unknowingly
spreading COVID-19 to others, compared with 38% of black adults and 28% of
white adults. And Hispanics (43%) and blacks (31%) are far more likely than
whites (18%) to be very concerned over getting COVID-19 and needing to be
hospitalized.
=====
CDC: Blacks, Hispanics Dying of COVID-19 at Disproportionately High Rates
Black and Hispanic Americans were disproportionately more likely to die of
COVID-19 during the spring and summer months, a new indicator that the corona
virus's toll is falling most heavily on under-served and minority communities.
=====
Here are some more DUMB ASS DEMOCRATS, telling us it's just perfectly OK and
fine to breath in other people's faces and go to the movies, a parade, and
http://youtu.be/tNflR2Ia7Hc
"Since I'm encouraging New Yorkers to go on with your lives & get out on the
town despite Coronavirus, I thought I would offer some suggestions. Here's the
story & set in Italy, it would be this film."
=====
Maybe like Nancy Pelosi telling people to DEFINITELY acquire the virus, by
going to Chinatown?
"Come to Chinatown, here we are...we're... again... careful... safe... and
come join us." - "Everything is fine" and "all is well."
So eloquent.
=====
Oxiris Barbot(D):, a pediatrician who has served as the Commissioner of
Health of the City of New York since 2018?
"The risk to New Yorkers for Coronavirus is low, and that our preparedness as a
city is very high."
"There is no reason not to take the subway, not to take the bus, not to go out
to your favorite restaurant, and certainly not to miss the parade next Sunday."
=====
"But there's really no need to panic and to avoid activities that we always do
as New Yorkers... we are hardy people."
"As an Asian-American, I've been somewhat disturbed, if not outright appalled,
by some of the comment or gestures that I have seen."
"Diseases originate from anywhere, or from pahticulah praces in the world."
=====
Fauci Lied... people died.
It's been a long way down for Anthony Fauci, M.D. - from virtual dictator of a
nation under virtual house arrest (and purported sex symbol) to laughingstock
caught lying and blaming the public for his fall.
"Timeline: Dr. Anthony Fauci Repeatedly Downplayed Coronavirus Threat"
"Dr. Fauci Made the Coronavirus Pandemic Worse by Lying About Masks"
"Dr. Fauci Now Says Second Coronavirus Wave 'Not Inevitable'"
"Fauci Falls, Fumbles Forbidding Football"
"Fauci Caught On Camera Contradicting Himself About Severity of Coronavirus"
=====
Black Population in US: 47.8 million
Hispanic Population in US: 60.6 million
=====
Hispanics Show 'Less Consistent Adherence' to Social Distancing, Mask-Wearing
Hispanics make up a high percentage of COVID-19 cases, are not wearing masks
and are not socially distancing as much as the rest of the population.
=====
Why Some People of Color Say They Won't Wear Homemade Masks
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/07/us/face-masks-ethnicity-coronavirus-cdc-
trnd/index.html
=====
Blacks And Hispanics May Fear Wearing Masks In Public
HUNTSVILLE, Ala. - Statistics are showing a disproportionate number of African
Americans are getting sick and dying of coronavirus.
Still, some minorities say they don't want to wear masks in public.
=====
People of Color Won't Be Required to Wear Masks
LINCOLN COUNTY, Ore. - People of color are exempt from an Oregon county's mask
mandate over concerns about racial profiling.
So... they can spread Covid-19 because they don't HAVE to wear a mask, JUST to
keep them from being profiled?
=====
CDC
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/hispanic-and-black-children-facing-higher-
rates-of-covid-19-hospitalization-cdc/ar-BB17J7Ur
=====
CNN: CDC Data: Covid-19 Hit Hispanics, Blacks And Those With Underlying
Conditions Harder
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/20/politics/cdc-covid-charts-black-hispanic-
underlying-conditions/index.html
=====
Hispanics and Blacks Are Hardest Hit by COVID-19 in New York City
https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2020-04-08/coronavirus-
disproportionally-kills-hispanics-and-blacks-in-new-york-city
=====
Why Black And Hispanic Residents Are More Likely To Become Infected By The
Coronavirus
https://www.poynter.org/reporting-editing/2020/why-black-and-hispanic-
residents-are-more-likely-to-become-infected-by-the-coronavirus/
=====
Hispanic Americans Being Hit Hard By COVID-19
https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200629/hispanic-americans-being-hit-hard-by-
covid-19#1
=====
COVID-19 Is Killing Over Twice As Many Black Americans As Whites
Black individuals are nearly three times as likely to contract COVID-19 and
twice as likely to die from the virus, compared with white individuals,
according to a new report by the National Urban League. Researchers have
struggled to measure with precision the race gaps in COVID-19 because much of
the early data reported by hospitals did not include information about
patients' race - as of early August, Pennsylvania has reported race data for
about half of its cases.
=====
Doctors Worry About COVID's Effects on Hispanics
Hispanic Americans, who make up 18.3% of the country's population, represent
32.7 % of new coronavirus cases nationwide, according to data from the CDC.
=====
Health Concerns From COVID-19 Much Higher Among Hispanics and Blacks Than
Whites
About half of Hispanic adults (49%) are very concerned about unknowingly
spreading COVID-19 to others, compared with 38% of black adults and 28% of
white adults. And Hispanics (43%) and blacks (31%) are far more likely than
whites (18%) to be very concerned over getting COVID-19 and needing to be
hospitalized.
=====
CDC: Blacks, Hispanics Dying of COVID-19 at Disproportionately High Rates
Black and Hispanic Americans were disproportionately more likely to die of
COVID-19 during the spring and summer months, a new indicator that the corona
virus's toll is falling most heavily on under-served and minority communities.
usenet is full of fucked-in-the-head psychos, like rudy - this shit doesn't
fly anywhere else, so they come here to express their bullshit tinfoil hat
conspiracies
Operation warp speed :1ne first time \ni the history of ne world where a
vaccine is developed during tie first year ofi1ae. Pandemic)
(-trump doesn't know what \ he's talking
Tn is is bull sot it's not science it's political science
Back n august i promised you a vaccine [3\( the end of n-ie year \a hen i
promise, i iliveri.
Greg Carr
2020-12-21 10:04:59 UTC
Permalink
Whatever idiot the U.S.A. leads the world in Wuhan deaths Trump totally blew it . You get your Chlorox injection yet? Did the summer heat kill off the virus like Trump said it would.?
Post by AlleyCat
94% of All Deaths Listed As Covid Were Not From Covid and Had An Average 2.6
Co-morbidities
This matches Professor Dolores Cahill in Ireland, who challenged the 1,778
Covid deaths after hundreds contacted her to say their relatives didn't die of
Covid.
The number was revised to 100
Well! That was easy.
Call the left on their bullshit, and they HAVE to amend their bullshit.
=====
Here are some more DUMB ASS DEMOCRATS, telling us it's just perfectly OK and
fine to breath in other people's faces and go to the movies, a parade, and
http://youtu.be/tNflR2Ia7Hc
"Since I'm encouraging New Yorkers to go on with your lives & get out on the
town despite Coronavirus, I thought I would offer some suggestions. Here's the
story & set in Italy, it would be this film."
=====
Maybe like Nancy Pelosi telling people to DEFINITELY acquire the virus, by
going to Chinatown?
"Come to Chinatown, here we are... we're... again... careful... safe... and
come join us." - "Everything is fine" and "all is well."
So eloquent.
=====
Oxiris Barbot(D):, a pediatrician who has served as the Commissioner of
Health of the City of New York since 2018?
"The risk to New Yorkers for Coronavirus is low, and that our preparedness as a
city is very high."
"There is no reason not to take the subway, not to take the bus, not to go out
to your favorite restaurant, and certainly not to miss the parade next Sunday."
=====
"But there's really no need to panic and to avoid activities that we always do
as New Yorkers... we are hardy people."
"As an Asian-American, I've been somewhat disturbed, if not outright appalled,
by some of the comment or gestures that I have seen."
"Diseases originate from anywhere, or from pahticulah praces in the world."
=====
Fauci Lied... people died.
It's been a long way down for Anthony Fauci, M.D. - from virtual dictator of a
nation under virtual house arrest (and purported sex symbol) to laughingstock
caught lying and blaming the public for his fall.
"Timeline: Dr. Anthony Fauci Repeatedly Downplayed Coronavirus Threat"
"Dr. Fauci Made the Coronavirus Pandemic Worse by Lying About Masks"
"Dr. Fauci Now Says Second Coronavirus Wave 'Not Inevitable'"
"Fauci Falls, Fumbles Forbidding Football"
"Fauci Caught On Camera Contradicting Himself About Severity of Coronavirus"
=====
Black Population in US: 47.8 million
Hispanic Population in US: 60.6 million
=====
Hispanics Show 'Less Consistent Adherence' to Social Distancing, Mask-Wearing
Hispanics make up a high percentage of COVID-19 cases, are not wearing masks
and are not socially distancing as much as the rest of the population.
=====
Why Some People of Color Say They Won't Wear Homemade Masks
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/07/us/face-masks-ethnicity-coronavirus-cdc-
trnd/index.html
=====
Blacks And Hispanics May Fear Wearing Masks In Public
HUNTSVILLE, Ala. - Statistics are showing a disproportionate number of African
Americans are getting sick and dying of coronavirus.
Still, some minorities say they don't want to wear masks in public.
=====
People of Color Won't Be Required to Wear Masks
LINCOLN COUNTY, Ore. - People of color are exempt from an Oregon county's mask
mandate over concerns about racial profiling.
So... they can spread Covid-19 because they don't HAVE to wear a mask, JUST to
keep them from being profiled?
=====
CDC
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/hispanic-and-black-children-facing-higher-
rates-of-covid-19-hospitalization-cdc/ar-BB17J7Ur
=====
CNN: CDC Data: Covid-19 Hit Hispanics, Blacks And Those With Underlying
Conditions Harder
https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/20/politics/cdc-covid-charts-black-hispanic-
underlying-conditions/index.html
=====
Hispanics and Blacks Are Hardest Hit by COVID-19 in New York City
https://www.usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2020-04-08/coronavirus-
disproportionally-kills-hispanics-and-blacks-in-new-york-city
=====
Why Black And Hispanic Residents Are More Likely To Become Infected By The
Coronavirus
https://www.poynter.org/reporting-editing/2020/why-black-and-hispanic-
residents-are-more-likely-to-become-infected-by-the-coronavirus/
=====
Hispanic Americans Being Hit Hard By COVID-19
https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200629/hispanic-americans-being-hit-hard-by-
covid-19#1
=====
COVID-19 Is Killing Over Twice As Many Black Americans As Whites
Black individuals are nearly three times as likely to contract COVID-19 and
twice as likely to die from the virus, compared with white individuals,
according to a new report by the National Urban League. Researchers have
struggled to measure with precision the race gaps in COVID-19 because much of
the early data reported by hospitals did not include information about
patients' race - as of early August, Pennsylvania has reported race data for
about half of its cases.
=====
Doctors Worry About COVID's Effects on Hispanics
Hispanic Americans, who make up 18.3% of the country's population, represent
32.7 % of new coronavirus cases nationwide, according to data from the CDC.
=====
Health Concerns From COVID-19 Much Higher Among Hispanics and Blacks Than
Whites
About half of Hispanic adults (49%) are very concerned about unknowingly
spreading COVID-19 to others, compared with 38% of black adults and 28% of
white adults. And Hispanics (43%) and blacks (31%) are far more likely than
whites (18%) to be very concerned over getting COVID-19 and needing to be
hospitalized.
=====
CDC: Blacks, Hispanics Dying of COVID-19 at Disproportionately High Rates
Black and Hispanic Americans were disproportionately more likely to die of
COVID-19 during the spring and summer months, a new indicator that the corona
virus's toll is falling most heavily on under-served and minority communities.
Rudy Canoza
2021-01-03 01:19:20 UTC
Permalink
Post by AlleyCat
94% of All Deaths Listed As Covid Were Not From Covid
That's a lie. *ALL* of the deaths listed as "COVID-19" are *FROM* COVID-19.
Bill Flett
2021-04-22 15:27:01 UTC
Permalink
Post by AlleyCat
94% of All Deaths Listed As Covid Were Not From Covid
That's a lie.
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