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Daniel60
2019-05-05 10:01:42 UTC
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I was out and about, today, actually on my way to the Baptism of my
Great-Nephew, when I saw a bill-board advertising a play/film of "The
Women of Troy" by Euripides.

Women!! What was he thinking?? They count for nothing, don't they?? ;-)
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Daniel
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2019-05-05 10:29:26 UTC
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Women!! What was he thinking?? They count for nothing, don't they?? ;-)
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Don't be silly! We need them to fawn over the men, and be rescued.
The True Doctor
2019-05-05 15:47:50 UTC
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Women!! What was he thinking?? They count for nothing, don't they?? ;-)
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Don't be silly! We need them to fawn over the men, and be rescued.
Of course we do. There's nothing wrong with a man rescuing a women from
peril and her falling in love with him. We're not all lesbian feminist
bigots that want to spoil other people's enjoyment because they can't
get any of their own.
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2019-05-05 17:15:52 UTC
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Of course we do. There's nothing wrong with a man rescuing a women from
peril and her falling in love with him. We're not all lesbian feminist
bigots that want to spoil other people's enjoyment because they can't
get any of their own.
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When it's the only identity women are allowed to have, it gets old after awhile.
The True Doctor
2019-05-05 17:31:19 UTC
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Of course we do. There's nothing wrong with a man rescuing a women from
peril and her falling in love with him. We're not all lesbian feminist
bigots that want to spoil other people's enjoyment because they can't
get any of their own.
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When it's the only identity women are allowed to have, it gets old after awhile.
Who says it's the only identity women are allowed to have? And even if
it were, it's the identity most women want to identify with. Why should
they all be forced to identify with a bunch of vindictive lesbian
feminist bigots.
e***@hotmail.com
2019-05-05 20:20:09 UTC
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Who says it's the only identity women are allowed to have? And even if
it were, it's the identity most women want to identify with. Why should
they all be forced to identify with a bunch of vindictive lesbian
feminist bigots.
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You do. You make it clear that any other use of female characters is wrong.

If this was how women wanted to be represented, you'd see more female writers following this lead.

You don't want them forced into "a," but insist they WANT to be forced into "b."

BTW, exactly how many women have you spoken to about their role in literature to be able to say what they "want?"
The True Doctor
2019-05-05 21:38:47 UTC
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(Quote) Who says it's the only identity women are allowed to have?
And even if it were, it's the identity most women want to identify
with. Why should they all be forced to identify with a bunch of
vindictive lesbian feminist bigots. (End Quote)
You do. You make it clear that any other use of female characters is wrong.
No. What I make clear is that both men and women prefer beautiful female
characters who are rescued from peril by handsome male heroes. It's been
that way in literature since long before Lancelot recused Gwenavir,
Saint George rescued that princess from a dragon, Herakles rescued
Hessione, and Perseus rescued Andromeda. After that they want beautiful
female characters falling in love and eloping with handsome male heroes,
and it's been that way since Jason and Medea, and then after that they
want to read about female characters that desire being possessed by men,
and it's been like that since the Iliad by Homer.
If this was how women wanted to be represented, you'd see more female
writers following this lead.
Female writers can only write children's stories. They can't write
romance, especially romance for adults. The best writers have always
been men, and we know that what women want because those are the writers
women prefer.
You don't want them forced into "a," but insist they WANT to be forced into "b."
This isn't about forcing women into anything. Both men and women prefer
the kind of literature I have described above. They don't get any
enjoyment from the lesbian feminist bigotry the minority of PC lunatics
are trying ton impose on everyone.
BTW, exactly how many women have you spoken to about their role in
literature to be able to say what they "want?"
I have spoken to women who have read and enjoyed the Gor novels by John
Norman, and who have also role played Gor, and these include university
professors, dozens of them.
The Doctor
2019-05-05 22:10:28 UTC
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(Quote) Who says it's the only identity women are allowed to have?
And even if it were, it's the identity most women want to identify
with. Why should they all be forced to identify with a bunch of
vindictive lesbian feminist bigots. (End Quote)
You do. You make it clear that any other use of female characters is wrong.
No. What I make clear is that both men and women prefer beautiful female
characters who are rescued from peril by handsome male heroes. It's been
that way in literature since long before Lancelot recused Gwenavir,
Saint George rescued that princess from a dragon, Herakles rescued
Hessione, and Perseus rescued Andromeda. After that they want beautiful
female characters falling in love and eloping with handsome male heroes,
and it's been that way since Jason and Medea, and then after that they
want to read about female characters that desire being possessed by men,
and it's been like that since the Iliad by Homer.
If this was how women wanted to be represented, you'd see more female
writers following this lead.
Female writers can only write children's stories. They can't write
romance, especially romance for adults. The best writers have always
been men, and we know that what women want because those are the writers
women prefer.
You don't want them forced into "a," but insist they WANT to be forced into "b."
This isn't about forcing women into anything. Both men and women prefer
the kind of literature I have described above. They don't get any
enjoyment from the lesbian feminist bigotry the minority of PC lunatics
are trying ton impose on everyone.
BTW, exactly how many women have you spoken to about their role in
literature to be able to say what they "want?"
I have spoken to women who have read and enjoyed the Gor novels by John
Norman, and who have also role played Gor, and these include university
professors, dozens of them.
Hear!! Hear!!!
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2019-05-05 23:02:18 UTC
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BTW, exactly how many women have you spoken to about their role in
literature to be able to say what they "want?"
I have spoken to women who have read and enjoyed the Gor novels by John
Norman, and who have also role played Gor, and these include university
professors, dozens of them.
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I find it difficult to believe you.

Women have discovered that, like men, they too want strong role models that they can look up to and admire. A character whose only job in the story is to look good and get into peril so a man can rescue her is not that character.

One of my favorite Dr. Who moments had Sarah Jane Smith find the Doctor in a cell.

DOCTOR: What do you think you're doing?

SARAH: Rescuing YOU, for a change!

"Return of the Jedi" received a lot of criticism for putting Princess Leia in the "pulp fiction" bass bikini, but she was no victim, she was an integral part of the plan, smashing the controls and strangling Jabba the Hutt.

"Die Another Day," Jynx DID need Bond to rescue her a couple of times, but she still gave as good as she got.

We're never going to come to an agreement on this. You are never going to understand that there are women who aren't eye candy and who want to have more say in their destinies. And maybe they want to see female characters like them!
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2019-05-05 23:38:33 UTC
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BTW, exactly how many women have you spoken to about their role in
literature to be able to say what they "want?"
I have spoken to women who have read and enjoyed the Gor novels by John
Norman, and who have also role played Gor, and these include university
professors, dozens of them.
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I find it difficult to believe you.
Women have discovered that, like men, they too want strong role models that they can look up to and admire. A character whose only job in the story is to look good and get into peril so a man can rescue her is not that character.
One of my favorite Dr. Who moments had Sarah Jane Smith find the Doctor in a cell.
DOCTOR: What do you think you're doing?
SARAH: Rescuing YOU, for a change!
"Return of the Jedi" received a lot of criticism for putting Princess Leia in the "pulp fiction" bass bikini, but she was no victim, she was an integral part of the plan, smashing the controls and strangling Jabba the Hutt.
"Die Another Day," Jynx DID need Bond to rescue her a couple of times, but she still gave as good as she got.
We're never going to come to an agreement on this. You are never going to understand that there are women who aren't eye candy and who want to have more say in their destinies. And maybe they want to see female characters like them!
who cares what they want as long as we can bang em
solar penguin
2019-05-06 07:37:19 UTC
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BTW, exactly how many women have you spoken to about their role in
literature to be able to say what they "want?"
I have spoken to women who have read and enjoyed the Gor novels by
John Norman, and who have also role played Gor, and these include
university professors, dozens of them.
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I find it difficult to believe you.
I find it difficult to believe Aggy has spoken to dozens of women, or
even just dozens of people.
The Doctor
2019-05-06 15:24:50 UTC
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BTW, exactly how many women have you spoken to about their role in
literature to be able to say what they "want?"
I have spoken to women who have read and enjoyed the Gor novels by
John Norman, and who have also role played Gor, and these include
university professors, dozens of them.
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I find it difficult to believe you.
I find it difficult to believe Aggy has spoken to dozens of women, or
even just dozens of people.
Hey Penguin check his friend list on Facebook.
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The True Doctor
2019-05-06 08:04:50 UTC
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BTW, exactly how many women have you spoken to about their role in
literature to be able to say what they "want?"
I have spoken to women who have read and enjoyed the Gor novels by
John Norman, and who have also role played Gor, and these include
university professors, dozens of them. (End Quote)
I find it difficult to believe you.
Then I suggest you visit Second Life which is full of Gor based
roleplay/combat sims.
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Women have discovered that, like men, they too want strong role
models that they can look up to and admire.
And they have them in masculine heroes rescuing damsels in distress.
They don't want women acting and behaving like lesbian feminist bitches
who despise all men.
A character whose only
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job in the story is to look good and get into peril so a man can
rescue her is not that character.
She has the additional role of getting the man to fall in love with her.
That's what appeals to women. It might not appeal to lesbian feminists,
but it appeals to normal straight women who admire men.
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One of my favorite Dr. Who moments had Sarah Jane Smith find the Doctor in a cell.
DOCTOR: What do you think you're doing?
SARAH: Rescuing YOU, for a change!
Which implies that most of the time Sarah Jane served her main function
of being their to ask questions, get into trouble, and wait to be
rescued. That's what made Doctor Who appealing. You know the Doctor
could look after himself, but he always had to look after his companion
as well which was not as easy.
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"Return of the Jedi" received a lot of criticism for putting Princess
Leia in the "pulp fiction" bass bikini, but she was no victim, she
Pulp Fiction came out in the 90s, long after RotD. The scene from Return
of the Jedi was based on one from ERB's A Princess of Mars, and in that
story Deja Thoris, unlike Whittaker was written as a scientist, not an
arrogant, hysterical, northern bimbo.
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was an integral part of the plan, smashing the controls and
strangling Jabba the Hutt.
Strangling Jabba with that heavy chain had no physical credibility since
most of the energy would have gone into overcoming the weight of the
chain, rather than into Jabba's throat; unless of couse Leia was using
the force, but at the time she didn't know she was Luke's sister, not
had any training.
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"Die Another Day," Jynx DID need Bond to rescue her a couple of
times, but she still gave as good as she got.
We're never going to come to an agreement on this. You are never
going to understand that there are women who aren't eye candy and who
want to have more say in their destinies. And maybe they want to see
Those women are not representative of the majority of women. Women
desire to look attractive to men, not to be men. Women wish to be
famine, not masculine. Women's destinies are to find and marry an
eligible man, not a macho women. Even Jane Austen figured that one out
in the first line of Pride and Prejudice.
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female characters like them!
Like an arrogant, hysterical, northern bimbo, gazing all the time at her
dildo? Women don't want that. They want a man to love them and rescue
them from peril, and for them to care for him and nurse his battle wounds.
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2019-05-06 09:28:50 UTC
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female characters like them!
Like an arrogant, hysterical, northern bimbo, gazing all the time at her
dildo? Women don't want that. They want a man to love them and rescue
them from peril, and for them to care for him and nurse his battle wounds.

In your fevered imagination, perhaps. Not in the real world. You don't seem to know many women, so you're just imagining what they want. A real woman is nothing like your imagined version.
The True Doctor
2019-05-06 10:21:50 UTC
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female characters like them!
Like an arrogant, hysterical, northern bimbo, gazing all the time at her
dildo? Women don't want that. They want a man to love them and
rescue them from peril, and for them to care for him and nurse his
battle wounds.
In your fevered imagination, perhaps. Not in the real world. You
Yes in the real world. Read The Argonautica by Apollonius Rhodus and see
how Medea is written to be strong and feminine, and to be loving and
protective of Jason, who frees her from a life of solitude and
isolation. That's what women want. Real heterosexual women, not man
hating lesbian feminists who are the creators of the anti-male
propaganda such as the Bechdel test, and do not represent the majority
of women at all.
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don't seem to know many women, so you're just imagining what they
want. A real woman is nothing like your imagined version.
Wrong. I have spoken to dozens of women who enjoy role-playing Gor in
Second Life. Some of these women enjoy being slaves to their masters,
and won't let anyone set them free. Others are free women who wear the
robes of concealment and won't let themselves be enslaved.

What a real woman wants is to be a princess and to be carried away by a
handsome prince, or kiss a frog that turns into a prince. That's what
they want. They don't want to be brainwashed by a bunch of third wave
lesbian feminists, who are not even feminine.
solar penguin
2019-05-06 14:59:24 UTC
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An angry Aggy attempted to argue...
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I have spoken to dozens of women who enjoy role-playing Gor in
Second Life. Some of these women enjoy being slaves to their masters,
and won't let anyone set them free. Others are free women who wear the
robes of concealment and won't let themselves be enslaved.
Oh, when you said you knew women who role-played Gor, I thought you
meant kinky BDSM sex games. It's sort of a relief to find you're not
prying into people's bedroom lives after all.

OTOH how many of those female characters are really female in real
life? That's the trouble with online personas. You never really
know who you're dealing with.
The Doctor
2019-05-06 15:31:50 UTC
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An angry Aggy attempted to argue...
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I have spoken to dozens of women who enjoy role-playing Gor in
Second Life. Some of these women enjoy being slaves to their masters,
and won't let anyone set them free. Others are free women who wear the
robes of concealment and won't let themselves be enslaved.
Oh, when you said you knew women who role-played Gor, I thought you
meant kinky BDSM sex games. It's sort of a relief to find you're not
prying into people's bedroom lives after all.
OTOH how many of those female characters are really female in real
life? That's the trouble with online personas. You never really
know who you're dealing with.
Get a girlfirend SP!
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solar penguin
2019-05-06 16:35:33 UTC
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Binky bleated...
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Get a girlfirend SP!
Are you offering to be my girlfriend?
The Doctor
2019-05-06 16:36:10 UTC
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Binky bleated...
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Get a girlfirend SP!
Are you offering to be my girlfriend?
No way Boyo!
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solar penguin
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Binky bleated...
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Get a girlfirend SP!
Are you offering to be my girlfriend?
No way Boyo!
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Good. I wouldn't want you as my girlfriend even if
you were the last woman on earth!
The Doctor
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On Monday, May 6, 2019 at 5:37:04 PM UTC+1, Yads yapped...
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Binky bleated...
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Get a girlfirend SP!
Are you offering to be my girlfriend?
No way Boyo!
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Good. I wouldn't want you as my girlfriend even if
you were the last woman on earth!
You sir are a freak!
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The True Doctor
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An angry Aggy attempted to argue...
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I have spoken to dozens of women who enjoy role-playing Gor in
Second Life. Some of these women enjoy being slaves to their masters,
and won't let anyone set them free. Others are free women who wear the
robes of concealment and won't let themselves be enslaved.
Oh, when you said you knew women who role-played Gor, I thought you
meant kinky BDSM sex games. It's sort of a relief to find you're not
prying into people's bedroom lives after all.
Why would I pry into peoples bedroom lives? If someone tried that in
Second Life they'd be banned from the sim.
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OTOH how many of those female characters are really female in real
life? That's the trouble with online personas. You never really
know who you're dealing with.
The ones I talk to are female. Those who are not are usually pointed out
by others, or themselves.
solar penguin
2019-05-07 09:48:52 UTC
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On Monday, May 6, 2019 at 7:33:07 PM UTC+1, An angry Aggy attempted to argue..
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An angry Aggy attempted to argue...
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I have spoken to dozens of women who enjoy role-playing Gor in
Second Life. Some of these women enjoy being slaves to their masters,
and won't let anyone set them free. Others are free women who wear the
robes of concealment and won't let themselves be enslaved.
Oh, when you said you knew women who role-played Gor, I thought you
meant kinky BDSM sex games. It's sort of a relief to find you're not
prying into people's bedroom lives after all.
Why would I pry into peoples bedroom lives? If someone tried that in
Second Life they'd be banned from the sim.
How were we supposed to know you meant computer
games, not sex games?
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OTOH how many of those female characters are really female in real
life? That's the trouble with online personas. You never really
know who you're dealing with.
The ones I talk to are female. Those who are not are usually pointed out
by others, or themselves.
Just keep telling yourself that if it keeps you happy.
The Doctor
2019-05-07 14:42:22 UTC
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An angry Aggy attempted to argue...
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I have spoken to dozens of women who enjoy role-playing Gor in
Second Life. Some of these women enjoy being slaves to their masters,
and won't let anyone set them free. Others are free women who wear the
robes of concealment and won't let themselves be enslaved.
Oh, when you said you knew women who role-played Gor, I thought you
meant kinky BDSM sex games. It's sort of a relief to find you're not
prying into people's bedroom lives after all.
Why would I pry into peoples bedroom lives? If someone tried that in
Second Life they'd be banned from the sim.
How were we supposed to know you meant computer
games, not sex games?
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Post by solar penguin
OTOH how many of those female characters are really female in real
life? That's the trouble with online personas. You never really
know who you're dealing with.
The ones I talk to are female. Those who are not are usually pointed out
by others, or themselves.
Just keep telling yourself that if it keeps you happy.
Get yourself a girlfriend SP!
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The True Doctor
2019-05-07 15:09:36 UTC
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On Monday, May 6, 2019 at 7:33:07 PM UTC+1, An angry Aggy attempted to argue..
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An angry Aggy attempted to argue...
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I have spoken to dozens of women who enjoy role-playing Gor in
Second Life. Some of these women enjoy being slaves to their masters,
and won't let anyone set them free. Others are free women who wear the
robes of concealment and won't let themselves be enslaved.
Oh, when you said you knew women who role-played Gor, I thought you
meant kinky BDSM sex games. It's sort of a relief to find you're not
prying into people's bedroom lives after all.
Why would I pry into peoples bedroom lives? If someone tried that in
Second Life they'd be banned from the sim.
How were we supposed to know you meant computer
games, not sex games?
Because I specifically referred to Second Life.
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OTOH how many of those female characters are really female in real
life? That's the trouble with online personas. You never really
know who you're dealing with.
The ones I talk to are female. Those who are not are usually pointed out
by others, or themselves.
Just keep telling yourself that if it keeps you happy.
You might not be able to tell a real woman from a man, but I can, and so
can others.
solar penguin
2019-05-07 19:14:59 UTC
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On Monday, May 6, 2019 at 7:33:07 PM UTC+1, An angry Aggy attempted to argue..
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An angry Aggy attempted to argue...
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I have spoken to dozens of women who enjoy role-playing Gor
in Second Life. Some of these women enjoy being slaves to
their masters, and won't let anyone set them free. Others are
free women who wear the robes of concealment and won't let
themselves be enslaved.
Oh, when you said you knew women who role-played Gor, I thought
you meant kinky BDSM sex games. It's sort of a relief to find
you're not prying into people's bedroom lives after all.
Why would I pry into peoples bedroom lives? If someone tried that
in Second Life they'd be banned from the sim.
How were we supposed to know you meant computer games, not sex
games?
Because I specifically referred to Second Life.
Look again at your original post:

"I have spoken to women who have read and enjoyed the Gor novels by John
Norman, and who have also role played Gor, and these include university
professors, dozens of them."
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.arts.drwho/xQJAC4tNeBU/ymCmfuJ7AQAJ

No mention of Second Life.
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OTOH how many of those female characters are really female in
real life? That's the trouble with online personas. You never
really know who you're dealing with.
The ones I talk to are female. Those who are not are usually
pointed out by others, or themselves.
Just keep telling yourself that if it keeps you happy.
You might not be able to tell a real woman from a man, but I can, and
so can others.
Keep telling yourself that.
The True Doctor
2019-05-07 19:25:52 UTC
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On Monday, May 6, 2019 at 7:33:07 PM UTC+1, An angry Aggy
attempted to argue..
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An angry Aggy attempted to argue...
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I have spoken to dozens of women who enjoy role-playing
Gor in Second Life. Some of these women enjoy being slaves
to their masters, and won't let anyone set them free.
Others are free women who wear the robes of concealment and
won't let themselves be enslaved.
Oh, when you said you knew women who role-played Gor, I
thought you meant kinky BDSM sex games. It's sort of a
relief to find you're not prying into people's bedroom lives
after all.
Why would I pry into peoples bedroom lives? If someone tried
that in Second Life they'd be banned from the sim.
How were we supposed to know you meant computer games, not sex
games?
Because I specifically referred to Second Life.
"I have spoken to women who have read and enjoyed the Gor novels by
John Norman, and who have also role played Gor, and these include
university professors, dozens of them."
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.arts.drwho/xQJAC4tNeBU/ymCmfuJ7AQAJ
No mention of Second Life.
Where did you think the role-play occurred then?
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OTOH how many of those female characters are really female
in real life? That's the trouble with online personas. You
never really know who you're dealing with.
The ones I talk to are female. Those who are not are usually
pointed out by others, or themselves.
Just keep telling yourself that if it keeps you happy.
You might not be able to tell a real woman from a man, but I can,
and so can others.
Keep telling yourself that.
You are totally deranged.
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2019-05-07 19:42:47 UTC
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I have spoken to dozens of women who enjoy role-playing
Gor in Second Life. Some of these women enjoy being
slaves to their masters, and won't let anyone set them
free. Others are free women who wear the robes of
concealment and won't let themselves be enslaved.
Oh, when you said you knew women who role-played Gor, I
thought you meant kinky BDSM sex games. It's sort of a
relief to find you're not prying into people's bedroom
lives after all.
Why would I pry into peoples bedroom lives? If someone tried
that in Second Life they'd be banned from the sim.
How were we supposed to know you meant computer games, not sex
games?
Because I specifically referred to Second Life.
"I have spoken to women who have read and enjoyed the Gor novels
by John Norman, and who have also role played Gor, and these
include university professors, dozens of them."
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.arts.drwho/xQJAC4tNeBU/ymCmfuJ7AQAJ
No mention of Second Life.
Where did you think the role-play occurred then?
Kinky BDSM sex games, of course. That's the obvious thought when
someone talks about adults role-playing slave-and-master scenarios.

Like I said, when you finally got round to mentioning Second Life, I was
relieved to find you _hadn't_ been stalking dozens of female professors
to uncover intimate details of their sex lives after all.
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OTOH how many of those female characters are really female
in real life? That's the trouble with online personas.
You never really know who you're dealing with.
The ones I talk to are female. Those who are not are usually
pointed out by others, or themselves.
Just keep telling yourself that if it keeps you happy.
You might not be able to tell a real woman from a man, but I
can, and so can others.
Keep telling yourself that.
You are totally deranged.
The most interesting people usually are.
The Doctor
2019-05-07 20:10:33 UTC
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I have spoken to dozens of women who enjoy role-playing
Gor in Second Life. Some of these women enjoy being
slaves to their masters, and won't let anyone set them
free. Others are free women who wear the robes of
concealment and won't let themselves be enslaved.
Oh, when you said you knew women who role-played Gor, I
thought you meant kinky BDSM sex games. It's sort of a
relief to find you're not prying into people's bedroom
lives after all.
Why would I pry into peoples bedroom lives? If someone tried
that in Second Life they'd be banned from the sim.
How were we supposed to know you meant computer games, not sex
games?
Because I specifically referred to Second Life.
"I have spoken to women who have read and enjoyed the Gor novels
by John Norman, and who have also role played Gor, and these
include university professors, dozens of them."
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.arts.drwho/xQJAC4tNeBU/ymCmfuJ7AQAJ
No mention of Second Life.
Where did you think the role-play occurred then?
Kinky BDSM sex games, of course. That's the obvious thought when
someone talks about adults role-playing slave-and-master scenarios.
Like I said, when you finally got round to mentioning Second Life, I was
relieved to find you _hadn't_ been stalking dozens of female professors
to uncover intimate details of their sex lives after all.
Creepy!
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OTOH how many of those female characters are really female
in real life? That's the trouble with online personas.
You never really know who you're dealing with.
The ones I talk to are female. Those who are not are usually
pointed out by others, or themselves.
Just keep telling yourself that if it keeps you happy.
You might not be able to tell a real woman from a man, but I
can, and so can others.
Keep telling yourself that.
You are totally deranged.
The most interesting people usually are.
You are trying to be the 7th Doctor?

May the 7th Doctor be with you!
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2019-05-07 20:08:14 UTC
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An angry Aggy attempted to argue...
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I have spoken to dozens of women who enjoy role-playing
Gor in Second Life. Some of these women enjoy being slaves
to their masters, and won't let anyone set them free.
Others are free women who wear the robes of concealment and
won't let themselves be enslaved.
Oh, when you said you knew women who role-played Gor, I
thought you meant kinky BDSM sex games. It's sort of a
relief to find you're not prying into people's bedroom lives
after all.
Why would I pry into peoples bedroom lives? If someone tried
that in Second Life they'd be banned from the sim.
How were we supposed to know you meant computer games, not sex
games?
Because I specifically referred to Second Life.
"I have spoken to women who have read and enjoyed the Gor novels by
John Norman, and who have also role played Gor, and these include
university professors, dozens of them."
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.arts.drwho/xQJAC4tNeBU/ymCmfuJ7AQAJ
No mention of Second Life.
Where did you think the role-play occurred then?
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OTOH how many of those female characters are really female
in real life? That's the trouble with online personas. You
never really know who you're dealing with.
The ones I talk to are female. Those who are not are usually
pointed out by others, or themselves.
Just keep telling yourself that if it keeps you happy.
You might not be able to tell a real woman from a man, but I can,
and so can others.
Keep telling yourself that.
You are totally deranged.
SP trolls too much!
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2019-05-07 20:07:22 UTC
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I have spoken to dozens of women who enjoy role-playing Gor
in Second Life. Some of these women enjoy being slaves to
their masters, and won't let anyone set them free. Others are
free women who wear the robes of concealment and won't let
themselves be enslaved.
Oh, when you said you knew women who role-played Gor, I thought
you meant kinky BDSM sex games. It's sort of a relief to find
you're not prying into people's bedroom lives after all.
Why would I pry into peoples bedroom lives? If someone tried that
in Second Life they'd be banned from the sim.
How were we supposed to know you meant computer games, not sex
games?
Because I specifically referred to Second Life.
"I have spoken to women who have read and enjoyed the Gor novels by John
Norman, and who have also role played Gor, and these include university
professors, dozens of them."
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.arts.drwho/xQJAC4tNeBU/ymCmfuJ7AQAJ
No mention of Second Life.
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Post by The True Doctor
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OTOH how many of those female characters are really female in
real life? That's the trouble with online personas. You never
really know who you're dealing with.
The ones I talk to are female. Those who are not are usually
pointed out by others, or themselves.
Just keep telling yourself that if it keeps you happy.
You might not be able to tell a real woman from a man, but I can, and
so can others.
Keep telling yourself that.
Trollwing are you feeling all right?
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2019-05-06 15:26:15 UTC
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female characters like them!
Like an arrogant, hysterical, northern bimbo, gazing all the time at her
dildo? Women don't want that. They want a man to love them and
rescue them from peril, and for them to care for him and nurse his
battle wounds.
In your fevered imagination, perhaps. Not in the real world. You
Yes in the real world. Read The Argonautica by Apollonius Rhodus and see
how Medea is written to be strong and feminine, and to be loving and
protective of Jason, who frees her from a life of solitude and
isolation. That's what women want. Real heterosexual women, not man
hating lesbian feminists who are the creators of the anti-male
propaganda such as the Bechdel test, and do not represent the majority
of women at all.
Post by The True Doctor
don't seem to know many women, so you're just imagining what they
want. A real woman is nothing like your imagined version.
Wrong. I have spoken to dozens of women who enjoy role-playing Gor in
Second Life. Some of these women enjoy being slaves to their masters,
and won't let anyone set them free. Others are free women who wear the
robes of concealment and won't let themselves be enslaved.
What a real woman wants is to be a princess and to be carried away by a
handsome prince, or kiss a frog that turns into a prince. That's what
they want. They don't want to be brainwashed by a bunch of third wave
lesbian feminists, who are not even feminine.
Correct as susal.
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2019-05-06 15:25:21 UTC
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female characters like them!
Like an arrogant, hysterical, northern bimbo, gazing all the time at her
dildo? Women don't want that. They want a man to love them and rescue
them from peril, and for them to care for him and nurse his battle wounds.
In your fevered imagination, perhaps. Not in the real world. You don't
seem to know many women, so you're just imagining what they want. A real
woman is nothing like your imagined version.
The Arrogent SW thus spoke.
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2019-05-06 11:29:35 UTC
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BTW, exactly how many women have you spoken to about their role
in literature to be able to say what they "want?"
I have spoken to women who have read and enjoyed the Gor novels by
John Norman, and who have also role played Gor, and these include
university professors, dozens of them. (End Quote)
I find it difficult to believe you.
Then I suggest you visit Second Life which is full of Gor based
roleplay/combat sims.
Ah!! So you, Aggy, get all your experience of Women from a Sym!! Go to know.
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Post by e***@hotmail.com
Women have discovered that, like men, they too want strong role
models that they can look up to and admire.
And they have them in masculine heroes rescuing damsels in distress.
They don't want women acting and behaving like lesbian feminist
bitches who despise all men.
So women are not allowed to admire women!! Good to know. I suppose if
women *DO* admire women, they *MUST* be lesbo's!
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Post by e***@hotmail.com
A character whose only job in the story is to look good and get
into peril so a man can rescue her is not that character.
She has the additional role of getting the man to fall in love with her.
Why is that, Aggy?? Can't she just be??
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That's what appeals to women.
Really??
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It might not appeal to lesbian feminists, but it appeals to normal
straight women who admire men.
<Snip>
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"Return of the Jedi" received a lot of criticism for putting
Princess Leia in the "pulp fiction" bass bikini, but she was no
victim, she
Pulp Fiction came out in the 90s, long after RotD.
Solar Penguin did not mention "Pulp Fiction", he did, however, mention
'pulp fiction', a term oft used to describe cheap novels!

<Snip>
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"Die Another Day," Jynx DID need Bond to rescue her a couple of
times, but she still gave as good as she got.
We're never going to come to an agreement on this. You are never
going to understand that there are women who aren't eye candy and
who want to have more say in their destinies. And maybe they want
to see
Those women are not representative of the majority of women.
How many women have you asked, Aggy, to determine "Those women are not
representative of the majority of women."??
Post by The True Doctor
Women desire to look attractive to men,
Sure, but not *JUST* look attractive!
Post by The True Doctor
not to be men. Women wish to be famine, not masculine.
and appreciated for being female ... AND for being Intelligent, AND for
being useful members of Society more generally!!
Post by The True Doctor
Women's destinies are to find and marry an eligible man, not a macho
women.
Some do ... and some want to be accepted as useful members of society,
more generally!!
Post by The True Doctor
Even Jane Austen figured that one out in the first line of Pride and
Prejudice.
Maybe she was just in it for the bucks!! Or, maybe, 'Jane Austen' was a
nom de plume (sp??) for 'John Austen'!! ;-)
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2019-05-06 11:50:01 UTC
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Solar Penguin did not mention "Pulp Fiction", he did, however, mention
'pulp fiction', a term oft used to describe cheap novels!
I didn’t mention either of them.
The True Doctor
2019-05-06 12:28:06 UTC
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BTW, exactly how many women have you spoken to about their
role in literature to be able to say what they "want?"
I have spoken to women who have read and enjoyed the Gor novels
by John Norman, and who have also role played Gor, and these
include university professors, dozens of them. (End Quote)
I find it difficult to believe you.
Then I suggest you visit Second Life which is full of Gor based
roleplay/combat sims.
Ah!! So you, Aggy, get all your experience of Women from a Sym!! Go to know.
No.
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Women have discovered that, like men, they too want strong role
models that they can look up to and admire.
And they have them in masculine heroes rescuing damsels in
distress. They don't want women acting and behaving like lesbian
feminist bitches who despise all men.
So women are not allowed to admire women!! Good to know. I suppose
if women *DO* admire women, they *MUST* be lesbo's!
Lesbians do not form the majority of women, and the majority of people
do not want to read about their prejudiced anti-male feminist ideology.
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A character whose only job in the story is to look good and get
into peril so a man can rescue her is not that character.
She has the additional role of getting the man to fall in love with her.
Why is that, Aggy?? Can't she just be??
It wouldn't be a good story worth reading if she didn't.
Post by Daniel60
Post by The True Doctor
That's what appeals to women.
Really??
Yes.
Post by Daniel60
Post by The True Doctor
It might not appeal to lesbian feminists, but it appeals to normal
straight women who admire men.
<Snip>
Post by The True Doctor
Post by e***@hotmail.com
"Return of the Jedi" received a lot of criticism for putting
Princess Leia in the "pulp fiction" bass bikini, but she was no
victim, she
Pulp Fiction came out in the 90s, long after RotD.
Solar Penguin did not mention "Pulp Fiction", he did, however,
mention 'pulp fiction', a term oft used to describe cheap novels!
He put it in quotes, so it looked like he was referring to the movie title.
Post by Daniel60
<Snip>
Post by The True Doctor
Post by e***@hotmail.com
"Die Another Day," Jynx DID need Bond to rescue her a couple of
times, but she still gave as good as she got.
We're never going to come to an agreement on this. You are never
going to understand that there are women who aren't eye candy
and who want to have more say in their destinies. And maybe they
want to see
Those women are not representative of the majority of women.
How many women have you asked, Aggy, to determine "Those women are
not representative of the majority of women."??
All the women I have spoken to, who possessed intelligence, which are
plenty, have expressed the same views I have expressed. Only the
minority who are not intelligent supported the feminist bigotry I have
referred to. Most of them also support Donald Trump and deride Hilary
Clinton and other loony leftists as having no intelligence at all.
Post by Daniel60
Post by The True Doctor
Women desire to look attractive to men,
Sure, but not *JUST* look attractive!
Post by The True Doctor
not to be men. Women wish to be famine, not masculine.
feminine
Post by Daniel60
and appreciated for being female ... AND for being Intelligent, AND
for being useful members of Society more generally!!
Intelligence and feminism are mutually exclusive since feminist is a
form of bigotry, and by nature bigots are stupid.
Post by Daniel60
Post by The True Doctor
Women's destinies are to find and marry an eligible man, not a
macho women.
Some do ... and some want to be accepted as useful members of
society, more generally!!
How can they be useful members of society by deriding men for being men?
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Post by The True Doctor
Even Jane Austen figured that one out in the first line of Pride
and Prejudice.
Maybe she was just in it for the bucks!! Or, maybe, 'Jane Austen' was
a nom de plume (sp??) for 'John Austen'!! ;-)
Or maybe she wasn't a feminist bigot.
Timothy Bruening
2019-05-06 15:25:42 UTC
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All the women I have spoken to, who possessed intelligence, which are
plenty, have expressed the same views I have expressed. Only the
minority who are not intelligent supported the feminist bigotry I have
referred to. Most of them also support Donald Trump and deride Hilary
Clinton and other loony leftists as having no intelligence at all.
Why have all the polls shown Trump at under 50% FOR HIS ENTIRE TERM?
The Doctor
2019-05-06 15:32:48 UTC
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All the women I have spoken to, who possessed intelligence, which are
plenty, have expressed the same views I have expressed. Only the
minority who are not intelligent supported the feminist bigotry I have
referred to. Most of them also support Donald Trump and deride Hilary
Clinton and other loony leftists as having no intelligence at all.
Why have all the polls shown Trump at under 50% FOR HIS ENTIRE TERM?
WEll is it above 40?
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2019-05-06 12:50:41 UTC
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I find it difficult to believe you.
Then I suggest you visit Second Life which is full of Gor based
roleplay/combat sims.
Post by e***@hotmail.com
Women have discovered that, like men, they too want strong role
models that they can look up to and admire.
And they have them in masculine heroes rescuing damsels in distress.
They don't want women acting and behaving like lesbian feminist bitches
who despise all men.
(End Quote)

A woman's only sense of self is through her man? Dear Lord, you are so out of touch with reality, it isn't funny!
The True Doctor
2019-05-06 17:44:09 UTC
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(Quote) I find it difficult to believe you.
Then I suggest you visit Second Life which is full of Gor based
roleplay/combat sims.
Post by e***@hotmail.com
Women have discovered that, like men, they too want strong role
models that they can look up to and admire.
And they have them in masculine heroes rescuing damsels in distress.
They don't want women acting and behaving like lesbian feminist
bitches who despise all men. (End Quote)
A woman's only sense of self is through her man? Dear Lord, you are
Yes, and a man's is with his woman.
so out of touch with reality, it isn't funny!
You are the one who is out of touch.

You've been listening to a bunch of man hating lesbian feminists and
taking them seriously.
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2019-05-06 22:18:54 UTC
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(Quote) I find it difficult to believe you.
Then I suggest you visit Second Life which is full of Gor based
roleplay/combat sims.
Post by e***@hotmail.com
Women have discovered that, like men, they too want strong role
models that they can look up to and admire.
And they have them in masculine heroes rescuing damsels in distress.
They don't want women acting and behaving like lesbian feminist
bitches who despise all men. (End Quote)
A woman's only sense of self is through her man? Dear Lord, you are
Yes, and a man's is with his woman.
so out of touch with reality, it isn't funny!
You are the one who is out of touch.
You've been listening to a bunch of man hating lesbian feminists and
taking them seriously.
Hear! Hear! Feminists do not speak up for all women!
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2019-05-06 23:33:02 UTC
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Hear! Hear! Feminists do not speak up for all women!
(End Quote)

Maybe not. But they should be allowed to speak for those who want more out of life than trying to hook a man.
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2019-05-06 23:55:35 UTC
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Hear! Hear! Feminists do not speak up for all women!
(End Quote)
Maybe not. But they should be allowed to speak for those who want more out of life than trying to hook a man.
there aren't any like that
The True Doctor
2019-05-07 00:37:03 UTC
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(Quote) Hear! Hear! Feminists do not speak up for all women! (End
Quote)
Maybe not. But they should be allowed to speak for those who want
more out of life than trying to hook a man.
They shouldn't be allowed to speak up for anyone, since they are self
centered, chauvinistic, sexist bigots. They are a disgrace to women and
to femininity. Feminism is not about being a women, it's about being a
man hating lesbian. It's time for them to learn tolerance. A woman's
greatest desire is to be possessed by a man.
Idlehands
2019-05-07 02:46:22 UTC
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(Quote) Hear! Hear!  Feminists do not speak up for all women! (End
Quote)
Maybe not. But they should be allowed to speak for those who want
more out of life than trying to hook a man.
They shouldn't be allowed to speak up for anyone, since they are self
centered, chauvinistic, sexist bigots. They are a disgrace to women and
to femininity. Feminism is not about being a women, it's about being a
man hating lesbian. It's time for them to learn tolerance. A woman's
greatest desire is to be possessed by a man.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA..

You are just too funny little man, you and your fantasy world and trying
to claim it represents the real world.

What a clown.
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e***@hotmail.com
2019-05-07 14:49:02 UTC
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(Quote)
They shouldn't be allowed to speak up for anyone, since they are self
centered, chauvinistic, sexist bigots. They are a disgrace to women and
to femininity. Feminism is not about being a women, it's about being a
man hating lesbian. It's time for them to learn tolerance. A woman's
greatest desire is to be possessed by a man.
(End Quote)

And with this, I realize that you have serious problems.

Women "want" to be subjugated? And any woman who doesn't, isn't a "true" woman? As Peri said in "The Two Doctors;" "Circular reasoning will only make you dizzy!"
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2019-05-07 14:56:09 UTC
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They shouldn't be allowed to speak up for anyone, since they are self
centered, chauvinistic, sexist bigots. They are a disgrace to women and
to femininity. Feminism is not about being a women, it's about being a
man hating lesbian. It's time for them to learn tolerance. A woman's
greatest desire is to be possessed by a man.
(End Quote)
And with this, I realize that you have serious problems.
I don't have any problems.
Post by e***@hotmail.com
Women "want" to be subjugated? And any woman who doesn't, isn't a "true"
Rgewt
woman? As Peri said in "The Two Doctors;" "Circular reasoning will
only make you dizzy!"
solar penguin
2019-05-07 15:31:04 UTC
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Rgewt
That's the most sense you've made in ages.
The Doctor
2019-05-07 20:06:41 UTC
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Rgewt
That's the most sense you've made in ages.
You pale in comparison to SW ITO trolling.
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2019-05-07 15:05:29 UTC
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(Quote) They shouldn't be allowed to speak up for anyone, since they
are self centered, chauvinistic, sexist bigots. They are a disgrace
to women and to femininity. Feminism is not about being a women, it's
about being a man hating lesbian. It's time for them to learn
tolerance. A woman's greatest desire is to be possessed by a man.
(End Quote)
And with this, I realize that you have serious problems.
I don't have any problems.
Women "want" to be subjugated? And any woman who doesn't, isn't a
Women desire to be possessed by men, and men desire to be slaves to the
women they love. John Norman has provided ample philosophical evidence
for that.
"true" woman? As Peri said in "The Two Doctors;" "Circular reasoning
will only make you dizzy!"
Lesbian feminist and SJW reasoning will only make you ignorant and
stupid. There's nothing wrong with a woman being feminine, and there's
nothing wrong with a woman submitting herself to the men she lives. That
is the kind of literature women want to read, especially ones into the
genre of speculative fiction.
e***@hotmail.com
2019-05-07 19:09:57 UTC
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(Quote)
Women desire to be possessed by men, and men desire to be slaves to the
women they love. John Norman has provided ample philosophical evidence
for that.
(End Quote)

John Norman is a man, as such, I don't believe he has the right to tell us what women "want."

There is no one, with legitimate psychiatric qualifications, who will give Norman's hypothesis the time of day!

In short, gender relationship speaking;

John Norman is a fruit cake, and so are you!
The True Doctor
2019-05-07 19:18:44 UTC
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(Quote) Women desire to be possessed by men, and men desire to be
slaves to the women they love. John Norman has provided ample
philosophical evidence for that. (End Quote)
John Norman is a man, as such, I don't believe he has the right to
tell us what women "want."
That is a sexist comment. As a man John Norman has every right to tell
us what women want, and as a man he is in the best position to know.
There is no one, with legitimate psychiatric qualifications, who will
give Norman's hypothesis the time of day!
I didn't say psychiatric. I said philosophical. John Norman is a
professor of philosophy.
In short, gender relationship speaking;
John Norman is a fruit cake, and so are you!
No. You, the SJWs, and the lesbian feminists are the fruit cakes. You
expect heterosexual women to act and behave like man hating lesbians,
which goes against their feminine nature which is to love men.
solar penguin
2019-05-07 19:54:32 UTC
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Post by e***@hotmail.com
There is no one, with legitimate psychiatric qualifications, who will
give Norman's hypothesis the time of day!
I didn't say psychiatric. I said philosophical. John Norman is a
professor of philosophy.
Interesting. A few years ago, you insisted that Professor Tolkien's
non-fiction writings on history didn't count because he also wrote fiction.

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.arts.drwho/gL6Y1pvF0RA/CJFLko-0fDYJ

By the same principle, wouldn't that also mean Professor Norman's
non-fiction writings shouldn't count either?

What's changed? Oh, wait, Norman agrees with you but Tolkien doesn't!
Post by The True Doctor
Post by e***@hotmail.com
In short, gender relationship speaking;
John Norman is a fruit cake, and so are you!
No. You, the SJWs, and the lesbian feminists are the fruit cakes.
Ah, the old "No, you!" argument. Logical discourse at its finest.
e***@hotmail.com
2019-05-07 19:59:52 UTC
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John Norman is a fruit cake, and so are you!
No. You, the SJWs, and the lesbian feminists are the fruit cakes. You
expect heterosexual women to act and behave like man hating lesbians,
which goes against their feminine nature which is to love men.
(End Quote)

You seem to believe women "want" to subjugate their own identities in return for "man's companion." And don't kid yourself, that's exactly what would happen, the woman would be allowed no thoughts or actions that their "man" didn't approve of.

You're the one who hates women. You want to see them reduced to property, and make yourself believe that this is their desire.

If you're very lucky, you can be like Donald Trump and find a woman who views your money over her own desires. Otherwise, you're going to be alone for a long time.
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2019-05-07 20:02:14 UTC
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(Quote)
John Norman is a fruit cake, and so are you!
No. You, the SJWs, and the lesbian feminists are the fruit cakes. You
expect heterosexual women to act and behave like man hating lesbians,
which goes against their feminine nature which is to love men.
(End Quote)
You seem to believe women "want" to subjugate their own identities in return for "man's companion." And don't kid yourself, that's exactly what would happen, the woman would be allowed no thoughts or actions that their "man" didn't approve of.
You're the one who hates women. You want to see them reduced to property, and make yourself believe that this is their desire.
If you're very lucky, you can be like Donald Trump and find a woman who views your money over her own desires. Otherwise, you're going to be alone for a long time.
women want to be lead by the nose ,
some even put a ring in it
The Doctor
2019-05-07 20:07:51 UTC
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(Quote) Women desire to be possessed by men, and men desire to be
slaves to the women they love. John Norman has provided ample
philosophical evidence for that. (End Quote)
John Norman is a man, as such, I don't believe he has the right to
tell us what women "want."
That is a sexist comment. As a man John Norman has every right to tell
us what women want, and as a man he is in the best position to know.
There is no one, with legitimate psychiatric qualifications, who will
give Norman's hypothesis the time of day!
I didn't say psychiatric. I said philosophical. John Norman is a
professor of philosophy.
In short, gender relationship speaking;
John Norman is a fruit cake, and so are you!
No. You, the SJWs, and the lesbian feminists are the fruit cakes. You
expect heterosexual women to act and behave like man hating lesbians,
which goes against their feminine nature which is to love men.
Hear!! Hear!!!
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2019-05-07 19:29:26 UTC
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(Quote)
Women desire to be possessed by men, and men desire to be slaves to the
women they love. John Norman has provided ample philosophical evidence
for that.
(End Quote)
John Norman is a man, as such, I don't believe he has the right to tell us what women "want."
There is no one, with legitimate psychiatric qualifications, who will give Norman's hypothesis the time of day!
In short, gender relationship speaking;
John Norman is a fruit cake, and so are you!
and you post in a group about bald heads
The Doctor
2019-05-07 20:08:39 UTC
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Post by e***@hotmail.com
(Quote)
Women desire to be possessed by men, and men desire to be slaves to the
women they love. John Norman has provided ample philosophical evidence
for that.
(End Quote)
John Norman is a man, as such, I don't believe he has the right to
tell us what women "want."
Post by e***@hotmail.com
There is no one, with legitimate psychiatric qualifications, who will
give Norman's hypothesis the time of day!
Post by e***@hotmail.com
In short, gender relationship speaking;
John Norman is a fruit cake, and so are you!
and you post in a group about bald heads
And this is why we like you around here % !
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The Doctor
2019-05-07 20:07:37 UTC
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(Quote)
Women desire to be possessed by men, and men desire to be slaves to the
women they love. John Norman has provided ample philosophical evidence
for that.
(End Quote)
John Norman is a man, as such, I don't believe he has the right to tell us what women "want."
There is no one, with legitimate psychiatric qualifications, who will
give Norman's hypothesis the time of day!
In short, gender relationship speaking;
John Norman is a fruit cake, and so are you!
And you wonder why % stays around here.
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e***@hotmail.com
2019-05-06 13:02:27 UTC
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Then I suggest you visit Second Life which is full of Gor based
roleplay/combat sims.
(End Quote)

So, we have a sub-set of John Norman fans, who are themselves a sub-set of sword and sorcery fans, who are themselves a sub-set of fantasy fans, who are THEMSELVES a sub-set of literature fans. Not exactly a sampling I would use to indicate the "majority" of opinion on any subject.

Further, I'm certain Norman has fans, I'm certain he had female fans. So does "50 Shades of Grey," doesn't stop with from being a load of psycho-sexual codswallop!
The True Doctor
2019-05-06 18:17:49 UTC
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(Quote) Then I suggest you visit Second Life which is full of Gor
based roleplay/combat sims. (End Quote)
So, we have a sub-set of John Norman fans, who are themselves a
sub-set of sword and sorcery fans, who are themselves a sub-set of
fantasy fans, who are THEMSELVES a sub-set of literature fans. Not
exactly a sampling I would use to indicate the "majority" of opinion
on any subject.
Since we are talking about the genre of Speculative Fiction which
includes both Fantasy and Science Fiction, Gor is a good representative
of the people into that genre. They don't agree with lesbian feminist or
left wing PC lunatic ideology.
Further, I'm certain Norman has fans, I'm certain he had female fans.
So does "50 Shades of Grey," doesn't stop with from being a load of
psycho-sexual codswallop!
Gor is better than 50 Shades of Gray.
The Doctor
2019-05-06 22:19:32 UTC
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(Quote) Then I suggest you visit Second Life which is full of Gor
based roleplay/combat sims. (End Quote)
So, we have a sub-set of John Norman fans, who are themselves a
sub-set of sword and sorcery fans, who are themselves a sub-set of
fantasy fans, who are THEMSELVES a sub-set of literature fans. Not
exactly a sampling I would use to indicate the "majority" of opinion
on any subject.
Since we are talking about the genre of Speculative Fiction which
includes both Fantasy and Science Fiction, Gor is a good representative
of the people into that genre. They don't agree with lesbian feminist or
left wing PC lunatic ideology.
Further, I'm certain Norman has fans, I'm certain he had female fans.
So does "50 Shades of Grey," doesn't stop with from being a load of
psycho-sexual codswallop!
Gor is better than 50 Shades of Gray.
50 Shades of Gray is sadistic porn!
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e***@hotmail.com
2019-05-06 23:35:29 UTC
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50 Shades of Gray is sadistic porn!
(End Quote)

I fully agree. Even worse, the BDSM crowd said it's totally inaccurate to their area. People could get seriously hurt following those books.
e***@hotmail.com
2019-05-06 13:16:48 UTC
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"Return of the Jedi" received a lot of criticism for putting Princess
Post by e***@hotmail.com
Leia in the "pulp fiction" bass bikini, but she was no victim, she
Pulp Fiction came out in the 90s, long after RotD. The scene from Return
of the Jedi was based on one from ERB's A Princess of Mars, and in that
story Deja Thoris, unlike Whittaker was written as a scientist, not an
arrogant, hysterical, northern bimbo.
(End Quote)

I would say you cannot be so massively ignorant as to not know where the term "pulp fiction" comes from. But you've shown, time and time again, that you are in fact that ignorant!

Yes, there was a movie titled "Pulp Fiction," but the term itself comes from a branch of lurid, sensationalistic, stories, printed in the 20s and 30s, finally put out of business by comic books and the paper shortage of WW II. Pulp fiction encompassed a wide variety of stories; mysteries, fantasies, science fiction, and thrillers. They gave us such heroes as; The Shadow, Doc Savage, G8 and his Battle Aces, The Spider, Tarzan, and John Carter of Mars.

You've mentioned before that Deja Thoris was a "scientist." I asked you then, and I ask you now, was her position as a scientist ever crucial to the story? Was she ever able to use her mind to further the plot? If not, then it was a pointless word.

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Post by e***@hotmail.com
was an integral part of the plan, smashing the controls and
strangling Jabba the Hutt.
Strangling Jabba with that heavy chain had no physical credibility since
most of the energy would have gone into overcoming the weight of the
chain, rather than into Jabba's throat; unless of couse Leia was using
the force, but at the time she didn't know she was Luke's sister, not
had any training.
(End Quote)

You're going to bring realistic physics up, in "Star Wars?"

HOW she was able to do this was and is immaterial. She was not a victim! That is the point.
e***@hotmail.com
2019-05-06 19:11:49 UTC
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They weren't put out of business by comic books. They survived along
side comics and complemented each other. Pulp fiction began with the
likes of Dumas, Dickens, Verne, Wells, and Doyle, in the 1800s, and died
out because the literature that they published went mainstream in the
1950s, and therefore direct to press as stand alone novels. Pulp fiction
publications died out because of their own success.
(End Quote)

Isaac Asimov disagrees with you. Given the respective reputations of both of you, I'm going to go with his assessment that the paper shortage of WW II led to the end of the pulps.
The True Doctor
2019-05-06 20:02:22 UTC
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(Quote) They weren't put out of business by comic books. They
survived along side comics and complemented each other. Pulp fiction
began with the likes of Dumas, Dickens, Verne, Wells, and Doyle, in
the 1800s, and died out because the literature that they published
went mainstream in the 1950s, and therefore direct to press as stand
alone novels. Pulp fiction publications died out because of their own
success. (End Quote)
Isaac Asimov disagrees with you. Given the respective reputations of
both of you, I'm going to go with his assessment that the paper
shortage of WW II led to the end of the pulps.
The paper shortage is a complete load of nonsense. There was plenty of
paper after the war, and comics would have suffered from it just as much.
s***@gmail.com
2019-05-06 20:16:14 UTC
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The paper shortage is a complete load of nonsense. There was plenty of
paper after the war, and comics would have suffered from it just as much.

Sure it was Aggy. I'm sure you were there at the time. Perhaps you could correct the article on Wikipedia:
"During the Second World War paper shortages had a serious impact on pulp production, starting a steady rise in costs and the decline of the pulps."
The True Doctor
2019-05-06 20:18:24 UTC
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Post by The True Doctor
The paper shortage is a complete load of nonsense. There was plenty of
paper after the war, and comics would have suffered from it just as much.
Sure it was Aggy. I'm sure you were there at the time. Perhaps you
could correct the article on Wikipedia: "During the Second World War
paper shortages had a serious impact on pulp production, starting a
steady rise in costs and the decline of the pulps."
And yet the number of science fiction novels that was published grew and
comics were not responsible for the decline of pulp fiction. It was novels.
e***@hotmail.com
2019-05-06 19:23:23 UTC
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Princess Leia was there to be rescued by Luke Skywalker and Obi Wan
Kenobi. "Obi Wan, please help me, you're my only hope". And then to fall
in love with Han Solo. And there is nothing wrong with that.
(End Quote)

If that were her ONLY purpose, she'd be a very bland, uninteresting character to everyone but you... and maybe Yads.

My comment on Deja Thoris remains the same, did she ever use her mind to advance the plot? If her being a scientist is used to get her into the location, that makes it a MacGuffin (see Alfred Hitchcock)
The True Doctor
2019-05-06 20:16:18 UTC
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(Quote) Princess Leia was there to be rescued by Luke Skywalker and
Obi Wan Kenobi. "Obi Wan, please help me, you're my only hope". And
then to fall in love with Han Solo. And there is nothing wrong with
that. (End Quote)
If that were her ONLY purpose, she'd be a very bland, uninteresting
character to everyone but you... and maybe Yads.
You mean the opposite. Just look a Rey in The Last Jedi. Totally bland
character who served no purpose because she wasn't there to be rescued.
That's why the squalls are now regarded as being worse than the
prequels, which also suffered from a lack of female protagonists needing
to be rescued.
My comment on Deja Thoris remains the same, did she ever use her mind
to advance the plot? If her being a scientist is used to get her into
the location, that makes it a MacGuffin (see Alfred Hitchcock)
She taught John Carter all he needed to know about the Martian language,
Martian science, astronomy, and technology, which was essential to the
plot since he had to use it. That included knowing what to eat in the
desert, the direction of Helium which Deja Thoris provided the bearings
off, obviously using her scientific knowledge, and deliberately starting
off in a different direction so it looked like they were going somewhere
else, and an explanation of the canals and atmosphere generations which
is essential later on.
e***@hotmail.com
2019-05-06 21:47:06 UTC
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You mean the opposite. Just look a Rey in The Last Jedi. Totally bland
character who served no purpose because she wasn't there to be rescued.
That's why the squalls are now regarded as being worse than the
prequels, which also suffered from a lack of female protagonists needing
to be rescued.
(End Quote)

I liked Rey. She was a great character. So I disagree with you.

(Quote)
Post by e***@hotmail.com
My comment on Deja Thoris remains the same, did she ever use her mind
to advance the plot? If her being a scientist is used to get her into
the location, that makes it a MacGuffin (see Alfred Hitchcock)
She taught John Carter all he needed to know about the Martian language,
Martian science, astronomy, and technology, which was essential to the
plot since he had to use it. That included knowing what to eat in the
desert, the direction of Helium which Deja Thoris provided the bearings
off, obviously using her scientific knowledge, and deliberately starting
off in a different direction so it looked like they were going somewhere
else, and an explanation of the canals and atmosphere generations which
is essential later on.
(End Quote)

Still a MacGuffin. Was there ever a storyline where her scientific knowledge was needed to find the answer?
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2019-05-06 22:07:03 UTC
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(Quote)
You mean the opposite. Just look a Rey in The Last Jedi. Totally bland
character who served no purpose because she wasn't there to be rescued.
That's why the squalls are now regarded as being worse than the
prequels, which also suffered from a lack of female protagonists needing
to be rescued.
(End Quote)
I liked Rey. She was a great character. So I disagree with you.
(Quote)
Post by e***@hotmail.com
My comment on Deja Thoris remains the same, did she ever use her mind
to advance the plot? If her being a scientist is used to get her into
the location, that makes it a MacGuffin (see Alfred Hitchcock)
She taught John Carter all he needed to know about the Martian language,
Martian science, astronomy, and technology, which was essential to the
plot since he had to use it. That included knowing what to eat in the
desert, the direction of Helium which Deja Thoris provided the bearings
off, obviously using her scientific knowledge, and deliberately starting
off in a different direction so it looked like they were going somewhere
else, and an explanation of the canals and atmosphere generations which
is essential later on.
(End Quote)
Still a MacGuffin. Was there ever a storyline where her scientific knowledge was needed to find the answer?
i hope not cause she's got luscious hooters
The True Doctor
2019-05-07 00:48:38 UTC
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(Quote)
You mean the opposite. Just look a Rey in The Last Jedi. Totally bland
character who served no purpose because she wasn't there to be rescued.
That's why the squalls are now regarded as being worse than the
prequels, which also suffered from a lack of female protagonists needing
to be rescued.
(End Quote)
I liked Rey. She was a great character. So I disagree with you.
She was ok in The Force Awakens, but after that her character was turned
into a nobody.
Post by e***@hotmail.com
(Quote)
Post by e***@hotmail.com
My comment on Deja Thoris remains the same, did she ever use her mind
to advance the plot? If her being a scientist is used to get her into
the location, that makes it a MacGuffin (see Alfred Hitchcock)
She taught John Carter all he needed to know about the Martian language,
Martian science, astronomy, and technology, which was essential to the
plot since he had to use it. That included knowing what to eat in the
desert, the direction of Helium which Deja Thoris provided the bearings
off, obviously using her scientific knowledge, and deliberately starting
off in a different direction so it looked like they were going somewhere
else, and an explanation of the canals and atmosphere generations which
is essential later on.
(End Quote)
Still a MacGuffin. Was there ever a storyline where her scientific knowledge was needed to find the answer?
Her scientific knowledge was required to lead to her being captured,
recount the history and science of Mars so that John Carter would know
where he was, find their way home, and identify what to eat.
The Doctor
2019-05-06 22:21:46 UTC
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(Quote) "Return of the Jedi" received a lot of criticism for putting
Princess
Post by e***@hotmail.com
Leia in the "pulp fiction" bass bikini, but she was no victim, she
Pulp Fiction came out in the 90s, long after RotD. The scene from
RotJ.
Return of the Jedi was based on one from ERB's A Princess of Mars,
and in that story Deja Thoris, unlike Whittaker was written as a
scientist, not an arrogant, hysterical, northern bimbo. (End Quote)
I would say you cannot be so massively ignorant as to not know where
the term "pulp fiction" comes from. But you've shown, time and time
again, that you are in fact that ignorant!
You are the one who is ignorant. The term pulp fiction does not belong
in inverted commas. The use of inverted commas suggested the movie title.
Yes, there was a movie titled "Pulp Fiction," but the term itself
comes from a branch of lurid, sensationalistic, stories, printed in
the 20s and 30s, finally put out of business by comic books and the
They weren't put out of business by comic books. They survived along
side comics and complemented each other. Pulp fiction began with the
likes of Dumas, Dickens, Verne, Wells, and Doyle, in the 1800s, and died
out because the literature that they published went mainstream in the
1950s, and therefore direct to press as stand alone novels. Pulp fiction
publications died out because of their own success.
paper shortage of WW II. Pulp fiction encompassed a wide variety of
stories; mysteries, fantasies, science fiction, and thrillers. They
gave us such heroes as; The Shadow, Doc Savage, G8 and his Battle
Aces, The Spider, Tarzan, and John Carter of Mars.
You've mentioned before that Deja Thoris was a "scientist." I asked
you then, and I ask you now, was her position as a scientist ever
crucial to the story? Was she ever able to use her mind to further
the plot? If not, then it was a pointless word.
Yes. If she hadn't been leading a scientific expedition she wouldn't
have been captured by the Tharks and met John Carter, who she then
teaches everything he needs to know about martian science and technology.
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was an integral part of the plan, smashing the controls and
strangling Jabba the Hutt.
Strangling Jabba with that heavy chain had no physical credibility
since most of the energy would have gone into overcoming the weight
of the chain, rather than into Jabba's throat; unless of couse Leia
was using the force, but at the time she didn't know she was Luke's
sister, not had any training. (End Quote)
You're going to bring realistic physics up, in "Star Wars?"
This is biology as well as physics.
HOW she was able to do this was and is immaterial. She was not a
victim! That is the point.
Here you go with your idiotic SJW bullshit. She had her entire planet
destroyed, and adoptive parents killed by Darth Vader in A New Hope, and
she's not a victim? She had her boyfriend encased in carbonite in The
Empire Strikes Back, and she's not a victim? And she was captured by a
bunch of Ewoks in Return of the Jedi, and she's not a victim?
Princess Leia was there to be rescued by Luke Skywalker and Obi Wan
Kenobi. "Obi Wan, please help me, you're my only hope". And then to fall
in love with Han Solo. And there is nothing wrong with that.
Hear! Hear!!!
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2019-05-06 13:40:26 UTC
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Like an arrogant, hysterical, northern bimbo, gazing all the time at her
dildo? Women don't want that. They want a man to love them and rescue
them from peril, and for them to care for him and nurse his battle wounds.
(End Quote)

Every woman who has ever achieved something; every female doctor, every female lawyer, every female politician, has had to face a wall of men with your attitude. And they have all persevered. Without wanting to be "men," and without being bull dyke lesbians. Your attitude was codswallop then, and it's codswallop now.

https://www.gocomics.com/doonesbury/1972/10/17

I don't expect that will mean anything to you. But I wanted to put it out there.
The True Doctor
2019-05-06 19:34:17 UTC
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(Quote) Like an arrogant, hysterical, northern bimbo, gazing all the
time at her dildo? Women don't want that. They want a man to love
them and rescue them from peril, and for them to care for him and
nurse his battle wounds. (End Quote)
Every woman who has ever achieved something; every female doctor,
every female lawyer, every female politician, has had to face a wall
of men with your attitude. And they have all persevered. Without
Cut the crap. Every man who has achieve something; every male doctor,
every male lawyer, every male politician, has had to face the same wall
of men with the same attitude. They all succeeded on merit.
wanting to be "men," and without being bull dyke lesbians. Your
attitude was codswallop then, and it's codswallop now.
Yours is the codswallop.
https://www.gocomics.com/doonesbury/1972/10/17
I don't expect that will mean anything to you. But I wanted to put it out there.
Oh, a comic strip exemplifying lesbian feminist bigotry against men. "A
great lady, Simone de Bouvier, once said that there are two kinds of
people; human beings, and women. And when women start acting like human
beings, they are accused of trying to be men."? Ridiculous!

Let's rephrase the above shall we so that it isn't sexist and reflects
the reality.

"A great lady, Margaret Thatcher, once said that there are two kinds of
people; women and men. And when women start trying to act like men, and
men start trying to act like women, that's when society falls apart."

She might not have said that exactly in those words, but that's exactly
what she thought, as can be seen here.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/margaret-thatcher/9979922/Margaret-Thatcher-a-pioneering-woman-with-no-time-for-feminists.html
e***@hotmail.com
2019-05-06 19:46:04 UTC
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(Quote)
Cut the crap. Every man who has achieve something; every male doctor,
every male lawyer, every male politician, has had to face the same wall
of men with the same attitude. They all succeeded on merit.
(End Quote)

That is such nonsense. Nobody looked at a guy trying to enter a field and said; "You don't belong here, go get married and have kids!"
The True Doctor
2019-05-06 20:19:27 UTC
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(Quote)
Cut the crap. Every man who has achieve something; every male doctor,
every male lawyer, every male politician, has had to face the same wall
of men with the same attitude. They all succeeded on merit.
(End Quote)
That is such nonsense. Nobody looked at a guy trying to enter a field and said; "You don't belong here, go get married and have kids!"
Nobody looked at a woman who was qualified to do the job and said that
either. It's fiction and propaganda invented by man hating lesbian
feminists.
e***@hotmail.com
2019-05-06 21:53:07 UTC
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(Quote)
Nobody looked at a woman who was qualified to do the job and said that
either. It's fiction and propaganda invented by man hating lesbian
feminists.
(End Quote)

How would you know? You can't read anything that doesn't have submissive women falling in love with rescuers. Read about the first woman doctor, and all she had to go up against. There was a woman executive, the only one in the office, who was attending a meeting and told to make coffee.

Give me a quote from a woman pioneer that says; "All the men were so helpful and no one held my being a woman against me!" I doubt you'll find one.
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quote from a woman pioneer that says; "All the men were so helpful and no one held my being a woman against me!" I doubt you'll find one.
There are various types of one-sided sex within a relationship. In this
post I'll focus on what I call “peace-inducing sex,” whose purpose is to
maintain peace within a relationship. I'll also compare it with “pity
sex” and “charity sex.”
Marital Industrial Peace
“I have sex with my husband in order to maintain industrial peace in the
home, but all my emotional resources are focused on my lover.” — A
married woman

Source: gpointstudio/Shutterstock
Industrial peace is characterized as a state in which an employer and
employees abstain from industrial actions, such as strikes and lockouts.
In the same vein, we can discuss industrial peace in marriage or other
long-term committed relationships as a state in which both partners
abstain from sexual sanctions, such as sexual deprivation or frequent
“headaches.” The purpose of this type of “peace” is to ensure an
ongoing, smooth relationship in which the two parties decide to stay
together even in the absence of profound love or intense passion.
The value of industrial peace in organizations is clear: The employer
and employee often have common interests and goals and can fulfill them
without necessarily liking each other.
Is marital industrial peace also valuable?
In marriage, the partners also have common interests and goals. They can
try to fulfill these without being profoundly in love or feeling
intensely passionate toward each other. If they decide that the show
must go on, they need to find a way to peacefully coexist in which they
both benefit—even if there's a lack of passion. However, such peace has
its emotional costs. A married woman who regularly engages in
peace-inducing sex said, “After I check sex off my "to-do list," I feel
bad about trading sex for this peace. I never talk about this with my
husband.”
Love and Life
“There is love, of course. And then there's life, its enemy.” — Jean Anouilh
In life we cannot have everything we want and must compromise by
settling for situations that seem relatively close to our ideals, or the
closest we can get given our circumstances. Compromises involve
dissatisfied acceptance of a gap between a perceived feasible desire and
our actual situation. In a compromise, we are in a situation we have
chosen to be in, but which we prefer to be different. Our choice stems
from the fact that we are limited creatures, that we cannot always meet
our norms or achieve our ideals, and that we sometimes have to settle
for something less than we might want.
In romantic compromise, we give up a romantic value, such as passionate
love, in exchange for a non-romantic value, like the wish to live
comfortably without financial worries. Giving up a romantic option is no
small matter; the forsaken alternative might cast a lingering shadow
over our lives. Our awareness of the road not taken can remain part and
parcel of our lives, and sometimes this awareness becomes more
oppressive as time passes.
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The decision to give preference to love or life is usually not
clear-cut. Typically, it involves many considerations, each of which has
different weights. Princess Diana once remarked, “They say it is better
to be poor and happy than rich and miserable, but how about a compromise
like moderately rich and just moody?” Similarly, one may claim that it
is better to be poor and in love than rich and without love. But how
about a compromise like being moderately rich and just loving (rather
being madly in love with) each other?
In preferring life over love, people make romantic compromises; after
all, there are very few, if any, people who are perfect. The debatable
issue concerns more specific aspects of the compromise, and in
particular whether the long-term feeling of being romantically
compromised disappears or decreases. In order for the decision to be
viable, it should enhance the agent's flourishing in general and his or
her romantic flourishing in particular.
One-sided Love and Sex
"Men reach their sexual peak at 18. Women reach theirs at 35. Do you get
the feeling that God is playing a practical joke?" — Rita Rudner
The issue of reciprocity is central to romantic love. For both sexes,
mutual attraction is the most highly valued characteristic in a
potential mate. The lack of reciprocity—the knowledge that you are not
loved by your beloved—usually leads to a decrease in the degree of love
and ultimately to humiliation and breakup. However, one-sided
(unrequited) love also exists in ongoing relationships. Even more common
is the presence of unequal romantic involvement between partners—for
example, when you are in love with your partner but the partner does not
love you as much. (See here.)
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Unequal involvement is often expressed in the sexual domain, although
different degrees of sexual arousal are not necessarily related to
lesser love but may stem from various personal and contextual
circumstances. In some relationships, one partner might not be sexually
attracted to the other, or might have a lower degree of sexual desire.
One fairly common option in these circumstances is to allow the partner
to find sexual satisfaction outside the relationship.
Generally, one-sided love constitutes greater difficulties than
one-sided sex, as it affects more aspects of a couple's life. I focus
here only on the issue of one-sided sex.
3 Types of One-sided Sex
“I would say my sex drive is about zero right now. Last night we had
sex. I couldn’t wait for it to be over. Even kissing made me nauseous.”
— A woman after having "pity-sex"
We can discern three major types of sexual interactions based upon the
motivations of agents who are not sexually attracted to their partners:
pity sex; charity sex; and peace-inducing sex.
Pity sex happens when people have sex with other people because they
feel sorry for them. Pity (or mercy) sex is an experience in which a
woman (or a man) is not particularly attracted to someone who is in love
with her and wishes to have sex with her; she sleeps with him because
she feels sorry for him. Like a one-night stand, pity sex is usually an
isolated occurrence; unlike a one-night stand, pity sex has an
altruistic element, intended to give pleasure to the other person but
not to the one who pities—after all, pity is not a pleasant emotion.
Many people (women probably more so) may have sex because they think
they “should" rather than because they actually want to. This can be a
kind of guilt-induced sex.
The True Doctor
2019-05-07 01:02:15 UTC
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(Quote) Nobody looked at a woman who was qualified to do the job and
said that either. It's fiction and propaganda invented by man hating
lesbian feminists. (End Quote)
How would you know? You can't read anything that doesn't have
submissive women falling in love with rescuers. Read about the first
There's nothing wrong with women being submissive. The Gor novels are
full of women not refusing to submit, and then finding out that
submitting themselves to a man is their deepest desire, and there is
nothing wrong with that at all.
woman doctor, and all she had to go up against. There was a woman
Blah, blah, blah... That would be Medea then, since she treats Jason to
protect him from the fire breasting bulls of Aetees, and then treats
Jason's uncle to try to make him immortal, but she tricks him and boils
him alive. That's your first woman doctor.
executive, the only one in the office, who was attending a meeting
and told to make coffee.
Who else do you think should have made it if she was the only one in the
office? The coffee obviously couldn't make itself.
Give me a quote from a woman pioneer that says; "All the men were so
helpful and no one held my being a woman against me!" I doubt you'll
find one.
Margaret Thatcher, “I owe nothing to women's lib." Lord Hurd said of her
election by the Conservative Party: “They didn’t look around for a woman
at all. They looked around and they found Margaret Thatcher, because she
was needed at the time.” “She wasn’t a feminist. All that line of
argument left her cold,” said Lord Hurd .

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/margaret-thatcher/9979922/Margaret-Thatcher-a-pioneering-woman-with-no-time-for-feminists.html
e***@hotmail.com
2019-05-06 19:51:34 UTC
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Simone DuBouvier has your number, Aggie

(Quote)
A great lady, Margaret Thatcher, once said that there are two kinds of
people; women and men. And when women start trying to act like men, and
men start trying to act like women, that's when society falls apart."
(End Quote)

Funny since Ms. Thatcher was a tough as nails woman, I would think she'd be on your list of "women who want to be men!"

At any rate, the argument is flawed on the outset. Women who want recognition outside the "man's companion" niche don't want to be men, they want to be women who are known for more than what man they married.
e***@hotmail.com
2019-05-06 20:03:41 UTC
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Let me ask you this, Aggie, where do the Susan Calvins of the world fit in your grand scheme?
The True Doctor
2019-05-06 20:42:58 UTC
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Let me ask you this, Aggie, where do the Susan Calvins of the world
fit in your grand scheme?
The same place as the Joan Janowicks.
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2019-05-06 20:54:10 UTC
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Let me ask you this, Aggie, where do the Susan Calvins of the world
fit in your grand scheme?
The same place as the Joan Janowicks.
i hope that means with their lips wrapped around it
e***@hotmail.com
2019-05-06 21:55:30 UTC
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Let me ask you this, Aggie, where do the Susan Calvins of the world
fit in your grand scheme?
The same place as the Joan Janowicks.
(End Quote)

Who is who, and what is her position in your grand scheme of things?
The True Doctor
2019-05-07 01:04:26 UTC
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Post by e***@hotmail.com
Let me ask you this, Aggie, where do the Susan Calvins of the world
fit in your grand scheme?
The same place as the Joan Janowicks.
(End Quote)
Who is who, and what is her position in your grand scheme of things?
You are the one who brought up Susan Calvin, so you should know already.
The True Doctor
2019-05-06 20:23:00 UTC
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Simone DuBouvier has your number, Aggie
(Quote) A great lady, Margaret Thatcher, once said that there are two
kinds of people; women and men. And when women start trying to act
like men, and men start trying to act like women, that's when society
falls apart." (End Quote)
Funny since Ms. Thatcher was a tough as nails woman, I would think
she'd be on your list of "women who want to be men!"
Thatcher never wanted to be a man. She insisted in being a women. Read
the article I posted.
Post by e***@hotmail.com
At any rate, the argument is flawed on the outset. Women who want
recognition outside the "man's companion" niche don't want to be men,
they want to be women who are known for more than what man they
married.
If that's the case then they didn't ever love the man they married at
all. It's clear that what you are spouting out is anti-male lesbian
hatred and propaganda and not what women actually think.
The Doctor
2019-05-06 22:37:10 UTC
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Simone DuBouvier has your number, Aggie
(Quote)
A great lady, Margaret Thatcher, once said that there are two kinds of
people; women and men. And when women start trying to act like men, and
men start trying to act like women, that's when society falls apart."
(End Quote)
Funny since Ms. Thatcher was a tough as nails woman, I would think she'd
be on your list of "women who want to be men!"
At any rate, the argument is flawed on the outset. Women who want
recognition outside the "man's companion" niche don't want to be men,
they want to be women who are known for more than what man they married.
De Beauvoir was worst than Thatcher!!
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2019-05-06 22:22:28 UTC
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(Quote) Like an arrogant, hysterical, northern bimbo, gazing all the
time at her dildo? Women don't want that. They want a man to love
them and rescue them from peril, and for them to care for him and
nurse his battle wounds. (End Quote)
Every woman who has ever achieved something; every female doctor,
every female lawyer, every female politician, has had to face a wall
of men with your attitude. And they have all persevered. Without
Cut the crap. Every man who has achieve something; every male doctor,
every male lawyer, every male politician, has had to face the same wall
of men with the same attitude. They all succeeded on merit.
wanting to be "men," and without being bull dyke lesbians. Your
attitude was codswallop then, and it's codswallop now.
Yours is the codswallop.
https://www.gocomics.com/doonesbury/1972/10/17
I don't expect that will mean anything to you. But I wanted to put it out there.
Oh, a comic strip exemplifying lesbian feminist bigotry against men. "A
great lady, Simone de Bouvier, once said that there are two kinds of
people; human beings, and women. And when women start acting like human
beings, they are accused of trying to be men."? Ridiculous!
Let's rephrase the above shall we so that it isn't sexist and reflects
the reality.
"A great lady, Margaret Thatcher, once said that there are two kinds of
people; women and men. And when women start trying to act like men, and
men start trying to act like women, that's when society falls apart."
She might not have said that exactly in those words, but that's exactly
what she thought, as can be seen here.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/margaret-thatcher/9979922/Margaret-Thatcher-a-pioneering-woman-with-no-time-for-feminists.html
Such are tories!
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2019-05-05 17:44:40 UTC
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(Quote)
Of course we do. There's nothing wrong with a man rescuing a women from
peril and her falling in love with him. We're not all lesbian feminist
bigots that want to spoil other people's enjoyment because they can't
get any of their own.
(End Quote)
When it's the only identity women are allowed to have, it gets old after awhile.
so do you
Timothy Bruening
2019-05-05 22:39:53 UTC
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(Quote)
Of course we do. There's nothing wrong with a man rescuing a women from
peril and her falling in love with him. We're not all lesbian feminist
bigots that want to spoil other people's enjoyment because they can't
get any of their own.
(End Quote)
When it's the only identity women are allowed to have, it gets old after awhile.
Old hat?
The Doctor
2019-05-06 00:17:54 UTC
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Post by e***@hotmail.com
(Quote)
Of course we do. There's nothing wrong with a man rescuing a women from
peril and her falling in love with him. We're not all lesbian feminist
bigots that want to spoil other people's enjoyment because they can't
get any of their own.
(End Quote)
When it's the only identity women are allowed to have, it gets old
after awhile.
Old hat?
Yes.
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Mike M
2019-05-05 15:22:20 UTC
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I was out and about, today, actually on my way to the Baptism of my
Great-Nephew, when I saw a bill-board advertising a play/film of "The
Women of Troy" by Euripides.
Women!! What was he thinking?? They count for nothing, don't they?? ;-)
Ping Agamemnon? What kind of fool would ping Agamemnon?
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2019-05-05 17:49:25 UTC
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Post by Daniel60
I was out and about, today, actually on my way to the Baptism of my
Great-Nephew, when I saw a bill-board advertising a play/film of "The
Women of Troy" by Euripides.
Women!! What was he thinking?? They count for nothing, don't they?? ;-)
Ping Agamemnon? What kind of fool would ping Agamemnon?
No fool.
Post by Mike M
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Discommendation is the only solution.
Discommendate Whittaker and Chibnall!
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2019-05-05 18:26:01 UTC
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Save r.a.dw! Killfile Aggy. Killfile Yads. Killfile Tim B. Killfile %.
Discommendation is the only solution.
Discommendate Whittaker and Chibnall!
You don't even know what the word "discommendate" means, Yads.
The Doctor
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Post by The Doctor
Post by Mike M
Save r.a.dw! Killfile Aggy. Killfile Yads. Killfile Tim B. Killfile %.
Discommendation is the only solution.
Discommendate Whittaker and Chibnall!
You don't even know what the word "discommendate" means, Yads.
Discommendate Wilson as Well!
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2019-05-06 11:31:02 UTC
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Post by Daniel60
I was out and about, today, actually on my way to the Baptism of my
Great-Nephew, when I saw a bill-board advertising a play/film of "The
Women of Troy" by Euripides.
Women!! What was he thinking?? They count for nothing, don't they?? ;-)
Ping Agamemnon? What kind of fool would ping Agamemnon?
Sorry!! ;-(
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The Doctor
2019-05-06 15:28:15 UTC
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Post by Mike M
Post by Daniel60
I was out and about, today, actually on my way to the Baptism of my
Great-Nephew, when I saw a bill-board advertising a play/film of "The
Women of Troy" by Euripides.
Women!! What was he thinking?? They count for nothing, don't they?? ;-)
Ping Agamemnon? What kind of fool would ping Agamemnon?
Sorry!! ;-(
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Daniel
Ping!!!
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2019-05-05 15:41:12 UTC
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I was out and about, today, actually on my way to the Baptism of my
Great-Nephew, when I saw a bill-board advertising a play/film of "The
Women of Troy" by Euripides.
Women!! What was he thinking?? They count for nothing, don't they?? ;-)
The same question was asked by Aristophanes. Read 'The Frogs' and you'll
find out.
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