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Have you ever noticed that the Hallmark romance movies are alike?
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Chris Tsao
2019-03-04 01:54:57 UTC
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From years of watching Hallmark love story movies, I have noticed that there are a number of common things.



The black best friend or a black boss since the main character and the love interest are rarely black.

They are cooks or pastry cooks. It could involve a cooking contest or they want to open a restaurant in these scenarios.

They are stranded somewhere.

The female lead is in love with a prince.

There is a festival.

They share a house together.

They want to trick their parents into thinking that they have a significant other.

The woman or man has an unkind significant other.

A family business is in jeopardy.

There is a contest.

The female lead or her love interest is new in town and just supposed to be there temporarily or s/he used to live in the town they're in.
Chris Tsao
2019-03-04 02:03:43 UTC
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A family business is in jeopardy.
Or something else can be in jeapordy (sp.??????) like a forest or a theatre.
Stephen DeMay
2019-03-04 17:13:00 UTC
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Post by Chris Tsao
From years of watching Hallmark love story movies, I have noticed that there are a number of common things.
The black best friend or a black boss since the main character and the love interest are rarely black.
They are cooks or pastry cooks. It could involve a cooking contest or they want to open a restaurant in these scenarios.
They are stranded somewhere.
The female lead is in love with a prince.
There is a festival.
They share a house together.
They want to trick their parents into thinking that they have a significant other.
The woman or man has an unkind significant other.
A family business is in jeopardy.
There is a contest.
The female lead or her love interest is new in town and just supposed to be there temporarily or s/he used to live in the town they're in.
Hallmark is a Christian orientated conglomeration that specializes in the spread of bland stories with make believe people whose only characteristics are that they worry about the same bullshit problems that their ignoramus audience aspires to have.
The characters do not have real personalities just repetitive familiar generic qualities so the easy to please audience can feel comfortable with characters as simple minded as they are.
Perfect example of the dumbing down of America ( and UK ). I grew up in the era of the boob tube/idiot box lived to see it become a place of excellent entertainment ( if one looked around in the early 80's through the late 90's ) and fr the least twety years have seen " popular " entertainment slide into a mire of mindless pap as deep and wide as an ocean.
l***@yahoo.com
2019-05-04 20:38:07 UTC
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It's been said that, for the past 10-20 year, TV has become better than American movies, on average. (It certainly stands to reason that as movies become dumber, viewers would go anywhere they could to find more challenging entertainment, and TV producers were glad to fill the demand.)

More:

https://www.google.com/search?q=tv+is+better+than+movies+now&rlz=1CAACAU_enUS847&oq=tv+is+better&aqs=chrome.3.0j69i57j0l4.5391j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8



Lenona.
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2019-05-05 01:08:04 UTC
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It's been said that, for the past 10-20 year, TV has become better than American movies, on average. (It certainly stands to reason that as movies become dumber, viewers would go anywhere they could to find more challenging entertainment, and TV producers were glad to fill the demand.)
https://www.google.com/search?q=tv+is+better+than+movies+now&rlz=1CAACAU_enUS847&oq=tv+is+better&aqs=chrome.3.0j69i57j0l4.5391j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
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"it has been said " ? WTF ? TV is now crap... the decline began about 15 years ago but has accelerated in the last ten. I could give numerous examples but you're in lala land so I won't bother
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2019-05-05 12:45:45 UTC
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It's been said that, for the past 10-20 year, TV has become better than A
merican movies, on average. (It certainly stands to reason that as movies become dumber, viewers would go anywhere they could to find more challenging entertainment, and TV producers were glad to fill the demand.)
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"it has been said " ? WTF ? TV is now crap... the decline began about 15 years ago but has accelerated in the last ten. I could give numerous examples but you're in lala land so I won't bother
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Post by l***@yahoo.com
It's been said that, for the past 10-20 year, TV has become better than A
merican movies, on average. (It certainly stands to reason that as movies become dumber, viewers would go anywhere they could to find more challenging entertainment, and TV producers were glad to fill the demand.)
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https://www.google.com/search?q=tv+is+better+than+movies+now&rlz=1CAA
CAU_enUS847&oq=tv+is+better&aqs=chrome.3.0j69i57j0l4.5391j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
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"it has been said " ? WTF ? TV is now crap... the decline began about 15 years ago but has accelerated in the last ten. I could give numerous examples but you're in lala land so I won't bother
Doe is a typical internet fool
l***@yahoo.com
2019-05-06 14:20:17 UTC
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It's been said that, for the past 10-20 year, TV has become better than American movies, on average. (It certainly stands to reason that as movies become dumber, viewers would go anywhere they could to find more challenging entertainment, and TV producers were glad to fill the demand.)
https://www.google.com/search?q=tv+is+better+than+movies+now&rlz=1CAACAU_enUS847&oq=tv+is+better&aqs=chrome.3.0j69i57j0l4.5391j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
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"it has been said " ? WTF ? TV is now crap... the decline began about 15 years ago but has accelerated in the last ten. I could give numerous examples but you're in lala land so I won't bother
All I know is (I don't actually have the time to follow any series closely and I've NEVER paid to watch any cable show - library DVDs exist, after all), while SNL is no longer funny except for maybe the openings and the Weekend Updates, first we had ER, Friends and The Sopranos in the 90s, and since then, we've had Lost, Downton Abbey, Breaking Bad, The Office, The Big Bang Theory, The Wire, Game of Thrones...the list goes on. I don't enjoy talent shows because they're so damned loud and hyped (despite the real talent and hard work involved), and I've never watched reality shows and I don't see their point. (Many critics feel the same way.)

But, if you can tell me how and why the bad outweighs the good these days in TV, especially compared to the movies, I'm all ears. Was it really ANY better in the late 1970s, when MASH was slumping, All in the Family was leaving, and Welcome Back Kotter and Three's Company were all the rage?


Lenona.
n***@webtv.net
2019-05-06 17:01:50 UTC
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It's been said that, for the past 10-20 year, TV has become better than American movies, on average. (It certainly stands to reason that as movies become dumber, viewers would go anywhere they could to find more challenging entertainment, and TV producers were glad to fill the demand.)
https://www.google.com/search?q=tv+is+better+than+movies+now&rlz=1CAACAU_enUS847&oq=tv+is+better&aqs=chrome.3.0j69i57j0l4.5391j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
L
"it has been said " ? WTF ? TV is now crap... the decline began about 15 years ago but has accelerated in the last ten. I could give numerous examples but you're in lala land so I won't bother
All I know is (I don't actually have the time to follow any series closely and I've NEVER paid to watch any cable show - library DVDs exist, after all), while SNL is no longer funny except for maybe the openings and the Weekend Updates, first we had ER, Friends and The Sopranos in the 90s, and since then, we've had Lost, Downton Abbey, Breaking Bad, The Office, The Big Bang Theory, The Wire, Game of Thrones...the list goes on. I don't enjoy talent shows because they're so damned loud and hyped (despite the real talent and hard work involved), and I've never watched reality shows and I don't see their point. (Many critics feel the same way.)
But, if you can tell me how and why the bad outweighs the good these days in TV, especially compared to the movies, I'm all ears. Was it really ANY better in the late 1970s, when MASH was slumping, All in the Family was leaving, and Welcome Back Kotter and Three's Company were all the rage?
Lenona.
This is not a matter of dramatic shows per se; it's all types of programming. GOT is so much better than any thing else ever on TV or in movies it truly is in a class by itself ( even though the series ran out of cannon after season 5 , and that is one hell of a story in itself ). The other series you mentioned are mediocre. I did watch Lost straight true on DVD long after it had concluded. It was so bad, so over the top goofy, it was in the so bad its good category. Worth mentioning that Bruce Davison's , a real talent , performance was the only example of real " acting " in the show.
Over all I'll break this down into two areas :TV films and series and everything else.
As someone who has spent countless hours searching for and watching what has been on TV since the early 80's when cable turned the wasteland into a treasure trove of good entertainment I may be the best person anywhere to recount what has been lost. The reason for the decline has been the dumbing down of America. In part due to immigration and the greater focus by companies on Blacks, in part just the awareness by corporations and organizations that the TV and movie audiences are comprised almost entirely of people who are not bright or lack good taste or both.
Channels such as Bravo, A & E, History Channel, History Channel International , Discovery Channel, The Learning Channel Science Channel would frequently show first -rate material. Now they are largely garbage bins that
feature poor recreations of events rather than information or strong narration. PBS and Smithsonian stuff can be good to great or dumbed down or in the case of PBS bias ( read Liberal )... don't confuse me as being a Republican, I'm Green/Libertarian if those labels are required for identification.
Films on TV have gone from as good or better than theater offerings because they stressed story, cast, performance and dialogue over action and spectacle to Hallmark blandness or Lifetime slop because that's what their audiences want. In recent posts I've reviewed several TV films that are on You Tube . The audience prefers people who are are as bland as they are to people who are their betters...or it wants salacious drivel.
TV films in the 70's were pretty mediocre and all looked the same. but starting in the early 80's all of the networks began showing high quality material, ABC, NBC and CBS...that's a lot of film. In addition Lifetime Movie Network would produce many, many strong mystery films with female leads.
The devastation of TV is especially evident in the deterioration of the U K imports. UK films and series were until about ten years ago the apex of media entertainment. PBS and A & E had them as the crown jewels of their programming. Now all UK media companies and even the BBC have chosen to go for the biggest audience rather than make the best product possible. It comes down to pushing third rate dialogue and performance for an audience that is comfortable with the common place.
My own intelligence which is strongest in abstract thinking is painfully aware of the difference between imaginative dialogue and talented performance vs. stuff that is hack writing and people whose dramatic talent is centered on stock physical movements and script readings.
Then there's the removal of " specialty " niche programming such as CourTV ( the best view of the heart of darkness ever... not of the defendants, but in the prosecutors, cops, judges, juries and the horrid audience for the show...mean - spirited middle - aged women ) and the Chiller Channel which from time to time financed some effective, if not great films and showed others that never make it to any other channel.
PBS and Smithsonian still show some really good stuff but in comparison to what was available say ten/fifteen years ago the TV river has become a stream.

All of the above is why today's TV, which is with few exceptions aimed at a low I Q, unimaginative, thin - skinned mass audience, basically sucks...certainly light years better than the wasteland of the 50's 60's and 70's but far back in the rear view mirror from its golden period from about the early 80's to maybe ten years ago...each division of these years had its special strengths.
That's it in a nutshell
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2019-05-06 17:10:37 UTC
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It's been said that, for the past 10-20 year, TV has become better than American movies, on average. (It certainly stands to reason that as movies become dumber, viewers would go anywhere they could to find more challenging entertainment, and TV producers were glad to fill the demand.)
https://www.google.com/search?q=tv+is+better+than+movies+now&rlz=1CAACAU_enUS847&oq=tv+is+better&aqs=chrome.3.0j69i57j0l4.5391j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
L
"it has been said " ? WTF ? TV is now crap... the decline began about 15 years ago but has accelerated in the last ten. I could give numerous examples but you're in lala land so I won't bother
All I know is (I don't actually have the time to follow any series closely and I've NEVER paid to watch any cable show - library DVDs exist, after all), while SNL is no longer funny except for maybe the openings and the Weekend Updates, first we had ER, Friends and The Sopranos in the 90s, and since then, we've had Lost, Downton Abbey, Breaking Bad, The Office, The Big Bang Theory, The Wire, Game of Thrones...the list goes on. I don't enjoy talent shows because they're so damned loud and hyped (despite the real talent and hard work involved), and I've never watched reality shows and I don't see their point. (Many critics feel the same way.)
But, if you can tell me how and why the bad outweighs the good these days in TV, especially compared to the movies, I'm all ears. Was it really ANY better in the late 1970s, when MASH was slumping, All in the Family was leaving, and Welcome Back Kotter and Three's Company were all the rage?
Lenona.
This is not a matter of dramatic shows per se; it's all types of programming. GOT is so much better than any thing else ever on TV or in movies it truly is in a class by itself ( even though the series ran out of cannon after season 5 , and that is one hell of a story in itself ). The other series you mentioned are mediocre. I did watch Lost straight true on DVD long after it had concluded. It was so bad, so over the top goofy, it was in the so bad its good category. Worth mentioning that Bruce Davison's , a real talent , performance was the only example of real " acting " in the show.
Over all I'll break this down into two areas :TV films and series and everything else.
As someone who has spent countless hours searching for and watching what has been on TV since the early 80's when cable turned the wasteland into a treasure trove of good entertainment I may be the best person anywhere to recount what has been lost. The reason for the decline has been the dumbing down of America. In part due to immigration and the greater focus by companies on Blacks, in part just the awareness by corporations and organizations that the TV and movie audiences are comprised almost entirely of people who are not bright or lack good taste or both.
Channels such as Bravo, A & E, History Channel, History Channel International , Discovery Channel, The Learning Channel Science Channel would frequently show first -rate material. Now they are largely garbage bins that
feature poor recreations of events rather than information or strong narration. PBS and Smithsonian stuff can be good to great or dumbed down or in the case of PBS bias ( read Liberal )... don't confuse me as being a Republican, I'm Green/Libertarian if those labels are required for identification.
Films on TV have gone from as good or better than theater offerings because they stressed story, cast, performance and dialogue over action and spectacle to Hallmark blandness or Lifetime slop because that's what their audiences want. In recent posts I've reviewed several TV films that are on You Tube . The audience prefers people who are are as bland as they are to people who are their betters...or it wants salacious drivel.
TV films in the 70's were pretty mediocre and all looked the same. but starting in the early 80's all of the networks began showing high quality material, ABC, NBC and CBS...that's a lot of film. In addition Lifetime Movie Network would produce many, many strong mystery films with female leads.
The devastation of TV is especially evident in the deterioration of the U K imports. UK films and series were until about ten years ago the apex of media entertainment. PBS and A & E had them as the crown jewels of their programming. Now all UK media companies and even the BBC have chosen to go for the biggest audience rather than make the best product possible. It comes down to pushing third rate dialogue and performance for an audience that is comfortable with the common place.
My own intelligence which is strongest in abstract thinking is painfully aware of the difference between imaginative dialogue and talented performance vs. stuff that is hack writing and people whose dramatic talent is centered on stock physical movements and script readings.
Then there's the removal of " specialty " niche programming such as CourTV ( the best view of the heart of darkness ever... not of the defendants, but in the prosecutors, cops, judges, juries and the horrid audience for the show...mean - spirited middle - aged women ) and the Chiller Channel which from time to time financed some effective, if not great films and showed others that never make it to any other channel.
PBS and Smithsonian still show some really good stuff but in comparison to what was available say ten/fifteen years ago the TV river has become a stream.
All of the above is why today's TV, which is with few exceptions aimed at a low I Q, unimaginative, thin - skinned mass audience, basically sucks...certainly light years better than the wasteland of the 50's 60's and 70's but far back in the rear view mirror from its golden period from about the early 80's to maybe ten years ago...each division of these years had its special strengths.
That's it in a nutshell
Sorry, forgot to include the demise of the foreign/independent film programming of The Sundance Channel and Independent Film Channel. Those losses alone would indicate what has happened .
Are you still " All Ears " ?
JTEM
2019-05-07 19:24:56 UTC
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"it has been said " ? WTF ? TV is now crap... the decline began about 15 years ago but has accelerated in the last ten. I could give numerous examples but you're in lala land so I won't bother
Film has been on a downhill toboggan ride for a couple of decades now.
And although it's true that there's no shortage of garbage being made
for TV, it's also true that TV is responsible for some of the best content.

One example: Breaking bad!

I was in an argument a couple of years ago with someone over this very
point -- which is better, film or TV? I pointed out that in a day & age
when most movies qualify as "Short Attention-Span Theater" a show
like Breaking Bad, BECAUSE IT WAS A SHOW, could devout an entire
episode to a rather intense character study... like Walter White dealing
with a fly.

Oh there's also production values, a great cast, awesome writing which
creates compelling characters and the uber creative use of nonlinear
story telling!


Non-linear story telling: Compare it's use in Breaking Bad to the
ridiculous "Dunkirk," which apparently only used it to conceal how
excessively small the production really was, and how excessively
brief their story arc ran!

A brief list of TV shows better than movies, besides Breaking Bad:

HBO's Rome
Six Feet Under
Entourage
Pushing Daisies
The Sopranos
Arrested Development
Dead Like Me
Andy Richter Controls the Universe (after episode-3)
Better Off Ted (A reboot of Andy Richter without Andy)

I would also definitely place the 2004 reboot of Battlestar
Galactica above most of the Star Wars movies.




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JTEM
2019-05-07 19:02:22 UTC
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Confucius say; "Woman who have 825 million cites really has none."
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It's been said that, for the past 10-20 year, TV has become better than American movies, on average. (It certainly stands to reason that as movies become dumber, viewers would go anywhere they could to find more challenging entertainment, and TV producers were glad to fill the demand.)
https://www.google.com/search?q=tv+is+better+than+movies+now&rlz=1CAACAU_enUS847&oq=tv+is+better&aqs=chrome.3.0j69i57j0l4.5391j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
This returns 825,000,000 results. Couldn't you have whittled it down to, say,
half a billion or so, instead of asking us to wade through the entire 825 million
and guess at which one(s) you agree with, and why?

THERE'S NO SUBSTITUTE FOR AN ACTUAL POSITION!

So hit that rewind button and try again! Go!

Do you believe that TV is better than movies these days? If so, why?

Can you give us some examples of made for TV content that is superior
to theatrical releases?

...or you can start eliminating a few hundred million of your "Cites,"
letting us know which quarter to a half billion you agree with, and why.

Thanks in advance.





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Chris Tsao
2019-05-04 02:46:53 UTC
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From years of watching Hallmark love story movies, I have noticed that there are a number of common things.
The black best friend or a black boss since the main character and the love interest are rarely black.
They are cooks or pastry cooks. It could involve a cooking contest or they want to open a restaurant in these scenarios.
They are stranded somewhere.
The female lead is in love with a prince.
There is a festival.
They share a house together.
They want to trick their parents into thinking that they have a significant other.
The woman or man has an unkind significant other.
A family business is in jeopardy.
There is a contest.
The female lead or her love interest is new in town and just supposed to be there temporarily or s/he used to live in the town they're in.
Another common plot is that a woman inherits property like a house or farm and I saw two where a woman rents a house and doesn't know that a man also rented that same house and one where a man is living in a house next to one that a woman had just rented.
Chris Tsao
2019-10-02 03:09:33 UTC
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Another really common theme is that the couple who get together at the end used to be sweethearts years earlier.
b***@gmail.com
2019-10-03 15:37:22 UTC
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Another really common theme is that the couple who get together at the end used to be sweethearts years earlier.
Another way they are all alike is that I aint seen a one of them.
Chris Tsao
2020-01-07 04:36:02 UTC
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Another really common theme is that the couple who get together at the end used to be sweethearts years earlier.
Another way they are all alike is that I aint seen a one of them.
Around five weeks ago, my wife told me that they always have hot chocolate (coco), there is a festival or a gala and a Christmas tree lighting. In a Candice Cameron movie, my wife said Let's see how long it takes them to have hot chocolate.
Chris Tsao
2019-11-02 13:20:31 UTC
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I don't think that I mentioned that another common theme is that there is a black boss.
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