BoJo a million miles out of his depth

Post by Stephen Cole
I was watching the Commons this afternoon and was genuinely surprised to
see just how badly Boris was performing; shifty, evasive, bumbling,
stumbling, totally lost more often than not. About on a par with Theresa
May on her bad days. What's more, he looked terrified at points, like he's
just realising for the first time that he's not actually remotely competent
for the job. LOL!
So, the forthcoming General Election campaign is going to be quite the
spectacle as we see the real Boris Johnson exposed and crushed. It's going
to be great!

Unfortunately not.

"Do you want to be on TV ? Do you think you deserve it ? Do you think
you will be "good" on camera ? Answer "No" to these questions and you
might as well get out of politics". David Thomson "Television" p.269

The HoC is about the only place where Boris can't control the situation.
Which is one of the reasons why he's suspended it.

Outside the HoC Boris loves the TV camera and the TV watching public
(including the Tory members who voted him in ) love watching Boris.

Same as they loved watching "Trump" in "The Apprentice". They're
larger than life characters, who naturally appeal to the hard of thinking.

Corbyn on the other hand is boring and would tick the "No Publicity" Box
if there was one.

Post by Stephen Cole
Goodbye Brexit! :-D

Kate Hoey, Frank Field. They and a few others are still out there, you know.

michael adams

...

Brian Gaff

2019-09-04 07:03:40 UTC

The thing is as Mrs May proved, nobody wants the current deal or to crash
out. That was established when she was in charge. How could Boris not have
realised his. So here we are back round to the start of Groundhog day again.
I fully realise that he was hoping that by taking it to the wire Brussels
would give in, but really, they are all now so bemused by us, I suspect they
could not give a monkeys.
What is going to happen now if we elect yet another hung parliament with
Lib dems holding the balance of power?

The date has to be a few days away. Will Brussels say, you cannot be allowed
to crash out while you have no credible government. Do they cancel Article
50, say sod it and move it till February, or just chuck us out anyway with
Mays deal?

I personally don't think whoever you had in No 10 faced with this mess it
would make any difference.

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Unfortunately not.
"Do you want to be on TV ? Do you think you deserve it ? Do you think
you will be "good" on camera ? Answer "No" to these questions and you
might as well get out of politics". David Thomson "Television" p.269
The HoC is about the only place where Boris can't control the situation.
Which is one of the reasons why he's suspended it.
Outside the HoC Boris loves the TV camera and the TV watching public
(including the Tory members who voted him in ) love watching Boris.
Same as they loved watching "Trump" in "The Apprentice". They're
larger than life characters, who naturally appeal to the hard of thinking.
Corbyn on the other hand is boring and would tick the "No Publicity" Box
if there was one.

Post by Stephen Cole
Goodbye Brexit! :-D

Kate Hoey, Frank Field. They and a few others are still out there, you know.
michael adams
...

nightjar

2019-09-03 18:33:30 UTC

Post by Stephen Cole
I was watching the Commons this afternoon and was genuinely surprised to
see just how badly Boris was performing; shifty, evasive, bumbling,
stumbling, totally lost more often than not. About on a par with Theresa
May on her bad days. What’s more, he looked terrified at points, like he’s
just realising for the first time that he’s not actually remotely competent
for the job. LOL!
So, the forthcoming General Election campaign is going to be quite the
spectacle as we see the real Boris Johnson exposed and crushed. It’s going
to be great!...

Well, he won't get the devout Jewish vote, unless he moves the date away
from the start of a religious festival that would stop them from voting.

--
Colin Bignell

Roger

2019-09-03 18:59:38 UTC

Post by Stephen Cole
I was watching the Commons this afternoon and was genuinely surprised to
see just how badly Boris was performing; shifty, evasive, bumbling,
stumbling, totally lost more often than not. About on a par with Theresa
May on her bad days. What’s more, he looked terrified at points, like he’s
just realising for the first time that he’s not actually remotely competent
for the job. LOL!
So, the forthcoming General Election campaign is going to be quite the
spectacle as we see the real Boris Johnson exposed and crushed. It’s going
to be great!...

Well, he won't get the devout Jewish vote, unless he moves the date away
from the start of a religious festival that would stop them from voting.
--

AFAIK Boris has not stated the 14th, in fact that appears to be a date that the opposition suggested. But let's not get into that hornets nest....

michael adams

2019-09-03 19:06:48 UTC

Well, he won't get the devout Jewish vote, unless he moves the date
away from the start of a religious festival that would stop them
from voting.

Er,

<quote>

" People who will not be able to vote on the chosen day
can register to vote by post or via a proxy vote.

Applications to vote by post must be received by 17:00 BST
on 26 September, for those not already registered to vote.

Proxy voting - where another registered voter votes on another's behalf -
must be applied for at least six working days before election day, in
England, Scotland or Wales."

</quote>

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49561792

So that's Margaret Hodge sorted, at least.

michael adams

...

nightjar

2019-09-04 09:22:15 UTC

Well, he won't get the devout Jewish vote, unless he moves the date
away from the start of a religious festival that would stop them
from voting.

Er,
<quote>
" People who will not be able to vote on the chosen day
can register to vote by post or via a proxy vote.
Applications to vote by post must be received by 17:00 BST
on 26 September, for those not already registered to vote.
Proxy voting - where another registered voter votes on another's behalf -
must be applied for at least six working days before election day, in
England, Scotland or Wales."
</quote>
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49561792
So that's Margaret Hodge sorted, at least.

I got the impression that the main objection was that he hadn't taken
the Jewish population into account when setting the date, rather than
the practical difficulties of voting.

--
Colin Bignell

tim...

2019-09-04 11:58:24 UTC

Well, he won't get the devout Jewish vote, unless he moves the date
away from the start of a religious festival that would stop them
from voting.

Er,
<quote>
" People who will not be able to vote on the chosen day
can register to vote by post or via a proxy vote.
Applications to vote by post must be received by 17:00 BST
on 26 September, for those not already registered to vote.
Proxy voting - where another registered voter votes on another's behalf -
must be applied for at least six working days before election day, in
England, Scotland or Wales."
</quote>
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49561792
So that's Margaret Hodge sorted, at least.

I got the impression that the main objection was that he hadn't taken the
Jewish population into account when setting the date,

how many non-Jews have even heard of this holiday (let alone know when it
is)

I certainly hadn't.

tim

Ian Jackson

2019-09-04 12:50:56 UTC

Post by Stephen Cole
I was watching the Commons this afternoon and was genuinely
surprised to
see just how badly Boris was performing; shifty, evasive, bumbling,
stumbling, totally lost more often than not. About on a par with Theresa
May on her bad days. What's more, he looked terrified at points,
like he's
just realising for the first time that he's not actually remotely competent
for the job. LOL!
So, the forthcoming General Election campaign is going to be quite the
spectacle as we see the real Boris Johnson exposed and crushed.
It's going
to be great!...

Well, he won't get the devout Jewish vote, unless he moves the date
away from the start of a religious festival that would stop them
from voting.

Er,
<quote>
" People who will not be able to vote on the chosen day
can register to vote by post or via a proxy vote.
Applications to vote by post must be received by 17:00 BST
on 26 September, for those not already registered to vote.
Proxy voting - where another registered voter votes on another's behalf -
must be applied for at least six working days before election day, in
England, Scotland or Wales."
</quote>
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49561792
So that's Margaret Hodge sorted, at least.

I got the impression that the main objection was that he hadn't taken
the Jewish population into account when setting the date,

how many non-Jews have even heard of this holiday (let alone know when
it is)
I certainly hadn't.

After a bit of Googling, it appears that it's only the first day of
Sukkot when work is forbidden (it's treated like the normal Jewish
Sabbath) - and this isn't the day proposed for the election. The whole
thing's not even a light breeze in a thimble.
https://tinyurl.com/y4g5ap72

--
Ian

nightjar

2019-09-04 16:34:05 UTC

...

Post by nightjar
I got the impression that the main objection was that he hadn't taken
the Jewish population into account when setting the date,

how many non-Jews have even heard of this holiday (let alone know when
it is)

Nor had I, but if you are running the country, you, or at least your
civil servants, ought to know about the impact of a decision on all the
major religions practised in it.

--
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The Natural Philosopher

2019-09-04 17:30:52 UTC

Post by nightjar
...

Post by nightjar
I got the impression that the main objection was that he hadn't taken
the Jewish population into account when setting the date,

how many non-Jews have even heard of this holiday (let alone know when
it is)

Nor had I, but if you are running the country, you, or at least your
civil servants, ought to know about the impact of a decision on all the
major religions practised in it.

Is Juadaism a major religion these days in Britain?

Religion in Great Britain (2011 census)
Christianity (59.5%)
No religion (25.7%)
Islam (4.4%)
Hinduism (1.3%)
Sikhism (0.7%)
Judaism (0.4%)
Buddhism (0.4%)
Other religions (0.4%)
Not stated (7.2%)

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“We did this ourselves.”

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nightjar

2019-09-05 08:35:58 UTC

Post by nightjar
...

Post by nightjar
I got the impression that the main objection was that he hadn't
taken the Jewish population into account when setting the date,

how many non-Jews have even heard of this holiday (let alone know
when it is)

Nor had I, but if you are running the country, you, or at least your
civil servants, ought to know about the impact of a decision on all
the major religions practised in it.

Is Juadaism a major religion these days in Britain?
Religion in Great Britain (2011 census)
Christianity (59.5%)
No religion (25.7%)
Islam (4.4%)
Hinduism (1.3%)
Sikhism (0.7%)
Judaism (0.4%)
Buddhism (0.4%)
Other religions (0.4%)
Not stated (7.2%)

That makes it the fifth most followed religion in the UK, which is
probably a good reason to put it among the major religions.

However, unlike the number of Christians, it is most likely an accurate
estimate of those actively following Judaism. On the basis of active
followers, according to a recent survey, there are about 15 active
followers of Christianity to every follower of Judaism. That would make
it even more of a major religion in the UK.

With only about 6% of the UK population actively Christian, you could
ask, if we ignore Jewish festivals because of the numbers, why do we
observe Christmas and Easter as a nation?

--
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2019-09-05 10:09:12 UTC

Post by nightjar
...

Post by nightjar
I got the impression that the main objection was that he hadn't
taken the Jewish population into account when setting the date,

how many non-Jews have even heard of this holiday (let alone know
when it is)

Nor had I, but if you are running the country, you, or at least your
civil servants, ought to know about the impact of a decision on all
the major religions practised in it.

Is Juadaism a major religion these days in Britain?
Religion in Great Britain (2011 census)
   Christianity (59.5%)
   No religion (25.7%)
   Islam (4.4%)
   Hinduism (1.3%)
   Sikhism (0.7%)
   Judaism (0.4%)
   Buddhism (0.4%)
   Other religions (0.4%)
   Not stated (7.2%)

That makes it the fifth most followed religion in the UK, which is
probably a good reason to put it among the major religions.
However, unlike the number of Christians, it is most likely an accurate
estimate of those actively following Judaism. On the basis of active
followers, according to a recent survey, there are about 15 active
followers of Christianity to every follower of Judaism. That would make
it even more of a major religion in the UK.
With only about 6% of the UK population actively Christian, you could
ask, if we ignore Jewish festivals because of the numbers, why do we
observe Christmas and Easter as a nation?

Because it sells product.

Dont be silly

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2019-09-05 09:18:44 UTC

Post by nightjar
...

Post by nightjar
I got the impression that the main objection was that he hadn't taken
the Jewish population into account when setting the date,

how many non-Jews have even heard of this holiday (let alone know when
it is)

Nor had I, but if you are running the country, you, or at least your
civil servants, ought to know about the impact of a decision on all the
major religions practised in it.

Is Juadaism a major religion these days in Britain?

One could make the mistake of thinking it is given its disproportionate level
of representation in politics, media and finance.

Jim GM4DHJ ...

2019-09-04 19:20:55 UTC

Post by nightjar
...

Post by nightjar
I got the impression that the main objection was that he hadn't taken
the Jewish population into account when setting the date,

how many non-Jews have even heard of this holiday (let alone know when
it is)

Nor had I, but if you are running the country, you, or at least your
civil servants, ought to know about the impact of a decision on all the
major religions practised in it.

0.4% of the population are Jewish.
Even as someone with a Jewish heritage I consider your point nonsense.
I'm far more concerned about Corbyn and his supporters anti-Semitic
policies.

It's kinda amazing to see you wave away as "nonsense" the cultural and
religious sensibilities of several hundred thousand British citizens,
Brian.

jews do that....

Rod Speed

2019-09-04 20:21:59 UTC

...

Post by nightjar
I got the impression that the main objection was that he hadn't taken
the Jewish population into account when setting the date,

how many non-Jews have even heard of this holiday (let alone know when it
is)

Nor had I, but if you are running the country, you, or at least your civil
servants, ought to know about the impact of a decision on all the major
religions practised in it.

But given that he has only been PM for a short time, its not surprising
that there are a few glitches like that with his advisors or that they
havent
worked out which civil servant is the one to ask about election dates.

Peeler

2019-09-04 20:53:43 UTC

On Thu, 5 Sep 2019 06:21:59 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent

Post by Rod Speed
But given that he has only been PM for a short time, its

It's ALL none of yours AT ALL! Get that into your senile Ozzie head, senile
Ozzietard!

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Stephen Cole

2019-09-05 08:34:38 UTC

...

Trying to invent some bogus insult were there clearly was none is just
nonsense.

An insult implies intent. The problem with Boris is that he seems to do
these things unconsciously, like his comments about Muslim women wearing
the burka looking like letterboxes. It shows either a lack of awareness
of his responsibilities as PM to set an example to others or that he
thinks that casual racism is the right sort of example to set.

With Brian recently describing Jewish culture as “nonsense”, it’s no
surprise to see him quite comfortable with Boris’ casual racism.

--
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Jim GM4DHJ ...

2019-09-05 08:40:18 UTC

...

Trying to invent some bogus insult were there clearly was none is just
nonsense.

With Brian recently describing Jewish culture as "nonsense", it's no
surprise to see him quite comfortable with Boris' casual racism.

totly +1

Stephen Cole

2019-09-05 08:52:46 UTC

Post by Jim GM4DHJ ...

...

Trying to invent some bogus insult were there clearly was none is just
nonsense.

With Brian recently describing Jewish culture as "nonsense", it's no
surprise to see him quite comfortable with Boris' casual racism.

totly +1

Shocking anti-semitism from Brian, as per, but what else would we expect
from a dedicated Faragist?

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Jim GM4DHJ ...

2019-09-05 09:23:46 UTC

Post by Jim GM4DHJ ...

...

Trying to invent some bogus insult were there clearly was none is just
nonsense.

With Brian recently describing Jewish culture as "nonsense", it's no
surprise to see him quite comfortable with Boris' casual racism.

totly +1

Shocking anti-semitism from Brian, as per, but what else would we expect
from a dedicated Faragist?

brian can't be all bad then.....

Jim GM4DHJ ...

2019-09-05 09:30:02 UTC

Post by Jim GM4DHJ ...

...

Trying to invent some bogus insult were there clearly was none is just
nonsense.

With Brian recently describing Jewish culture as "nonsense", it's no
surprise to see him quite comfortable with Boris' casual racism.

totly +1

Shocking anti-semitism from Brian, as per, but what else would we expect
from a dedicated Faragist?

brian can't be all bad then.....

Rod Speed

2019-09-04 19:32:59 UTC

Well, he won't get the devout Jewish vote, unless he moves the date
away from the start of a religious festival that would stop them
from voting.

Er,
<quote>
" People who will not be able to vote on the chosen day
can register to vote by post or via a proxy vote.
Applications to vote by post must be received by 17:00 BST
on 26 September, for those not already registered to vote.
Proxy voting - where another registered voter votes on another's behalf -
must be applied for at least six working days before election day, in
England, Scotland or Wales."
</quote>
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49561792
So that's Margaret Hodge sorted, at least.

I got the impression that the main objection was that he hadn't taken the
Jewish population into account when setting the date,

how many non-Jews have even heard of this holiday (let alone know when it
is)

Or that there is one day when they arent allowed to write;

Post by tim...
I certainly hadn't.

Me neither.

Grikbashir®

2019-09-03 19:10:12 UTC

Post by Stephen Cole
I was watching the Commons this afternoon and was genuinely surprised to
see just how badly Boris was performing; shifty, evasive, bumbling,
stumbling, totally lost more often than not. About on a par with Theresa
May on her bad days. Whats more, he looked terrified at points, like hes
just realising for the first time that hes not actually remotely competent
for the job. LOL!
So, the forthcoming General Election campaign is going to be quite the
spectacle as we see the real Boris Johnson exposed and crushed. Its going
to be great!...

Well, he won't get the devout Jewish vote, unless he moves the date away
from the start of a religious festival that would stop them from voting.

Fuck the jew vote. They all vote Labour anyway.

Peeler

2019-09-03 19:28:42 UTC

On Tue, 03 Sep 2019 12:10:12 -0700, clinically insane, pedophilic, serbian
bitch Razovic, the resident psychopath of sci and scj and Usenet's famous

Post by GrikbashirÂ®Â

Post by nightjar
Well, he won't get the devout Jewish vote, unless he moves the date away
from the start of a religious festival that would stop them from voting.

Fuck the jew vote. They all vote Labour anyway.

Are you sure, psychopath? Psychopathically sure, again? <BG>

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Tall Henry

2019-09-03 20:30:00 UTC

Fuck the polack vote. Why the fuck are they even ALLOWED to vote, anyway?

TSSK!

Stephen Cole

2019-09-03 19:19:06 UTC

Post by Stephen Cole
I was watching the Commons this afternoon and was genuinely surprised to
see just how badly Boris was performing; shifty, evasive, bumbling,
stumbling, totally lost more often than not. About on a par with Theresa
May on her bad days. What’s more, he looked terrified at points, like he’s
just realising for the first time that he’s not actually remotely competent
for the job. LOL!
So, the forthcoming General Election campaign is going to be quite the
spectacle as we see the real Boris Johnson exposed and crushed. It’s going
to be great!...

Well, he won't get the devout Jewish vote, unless he moves the date away
from the start of a religious festival that would stop them from voting.

Only the first day of Sukkot is subject to Shabbat rules. If he does
select that day, those concerned can simply request postal votes.

Pretty disgraceful anti-semitism from your Tory fellow travellers, Brian,
as per. Shame on you.

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Peeler

2019-09-03 20:32:31 UTC

On Tue, 03 Sep 2019 13:01:05 -0700, clinically insane, pedophilic, serbian
bitch Razovic, the resident psychopath of sci and scj and Usenet's famous

Post by Stephen Cole
Pretty disgraceful anti-semitism from your Tory fellow travellers, Brian,
as per. Shame on you.

Pretty disgraceful pro-semitism from you, jewlover. Fuck you.

Pretty ridiculous display of your clinical insanity again, filthy pedophilic
dreckserb! And I know, NOBODY fucks YOU! NOBODY!!! LOL

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Brian Gaff

2019-09-04 07:05:39 UTC

Yes if ever there was a time for a none of the above box compulsory voting
this is it.
Brian
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Post by Stephen Cole
I was watching the Commons this afternoon and was genuinely surprised to
see just how badly Boris was performing; shifty, evasive, bumbling,
stumbling, totally lost more often than not. About on a par with Theresa
May on her bad days. What's more, he looked terrified at points, like he's
just realising for the first time that he's not actually remotely
competent
for the job. LOL!
So, the forthcoming General Election campaign is going to be quite the
spectacle as we see the real Boris Johnson exposed and crushed. It's
going
to be great!...

Well, he won't get the devout Jewish vote, unless he moves the date away
from the start of a religious festival that would stop them from voting.
--
Colin Bignell

The Iceberg

2019-09-03 18:40:26 UTC

Post by Stephen Cole
I was watching the Commons this afternoon and was genuinely surprised to
see just how badly Boris was performing; shifty, evasive, bumbling,
stumbling, totally lost more often than not. About on a par with Theresa
May on her bad days. What’s more, he looked terrified at points, like he’s
just realising for the first time that he’s not actually remotely competent
for the job. LOL!
So, the forthcoming General Election campaign is going to be quite the
spectacle as we see the real Boris Johnson exposed and crushed. It’s going
to be great!
Goodbye Brexit! :-D

why do you hate Britain so much that you want to give all power to Germany(the EUSSR)? what are you so scared of?

Keema's Nan

2019-09-03 19:19:22 UTC

Post by Stephen Cole
I was watching the Commons this afternoon and was genuinely surprised to
see just how badly Boris was performing; shifty, evasive, bumbling,
stumbling, totally lost more often than not. About on a par with Theresa
May on her bad days. What’s more, he looked terrified at points, like he’s
just realising for the first time that he’s not actually remotely competent
for the job. LOL!
So, the forthcoming General Election campaign is going to be quite the
spectacle as we see the real Boris Johnson exposed and crushed. It’s going
to be great!
Goodbye Brexit! :-D

Goodbye any thin veneer of democracy.

The people voted for Brexit, but the Establishment didn’t want that.

At least now the electorate are finding out before they have to vote (if they
can be bothered) ever again.

Spike

2019-09-04 07:59:38 UTC

Post by Stephen Cole
So, the forthcoming General Election campaign is going to be quite the
spectacle as we see the real Boris Johnson exposed and crushed. It’s going
to be great! Goodbye Brexit! :-D

Goodbye any thin veneer of democracy.
The people voted for Brexit, but the Establishment didn’t want that.
At least now the electorate are finding out before they have to vote (if they
can be bothered) ever again.

We're about to see Cole's Comrade Corbyn not support a Parliamentary
vote for the General Election he's been screaming for for so long. It's
quite the spectacle to see the real Jeremy Corbyn exposed and crushed.

--
Spike

Keema's Nan

2019-09-04 08:13:21 UTC

Goodbye any thin veneer of democracy.
The people voted for Brexit, but the Establishment didn’t want that.
At least now the electorate are finding out before they have to vote (if they
can be bothered) ever again.

Yes, Corbyn (and his dimwit supporters) have walked right into Boris’s
trap.

They can control parliamentary proceedings as much as they like, but it will
not get them out of the trap.

Dave Plowman (News)

2019-09-04 10:13:45 UTC

Post by Spike
We're about to see Cole's Comrade Corbyn not support a Parliamentary
vote for the General Election he's been screaming for for so long. It's
quite the spectacle to see the real Jeremy Corbyn exposed and crushed.

Yes, Corbyn (and his dimwit supporters) have walked right into Boriss
trap.

Which desert is your head buried in?

They can control parliamentary proceedings as much as they like, but it
will not get them out of the trap.

Meaning it is actually Cummings who controls things?
Very apt for you Brexiteers.

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Tim Lamb

2019-09-04 11:10:50 UTC

Yes, Corbyn (and his dimwit supporters) have walked right into Boris‘s
trap.

Which desert is your head buried in?

They can control parliamentary proceedings as much as they like, but it
will not get them out of the trap.

Meaning it is actually Cummings who controls things?
Very apt for you Brexiteers.

Are you implying that there is person making decisions on behalf of this
country who is unelected and can't be got rid of? Isn't this where we
started?

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The Natural Philosopher

2019-09-04 15:56:50 UTC

Post by Spike
We're about to see Cole's Comrade Corbyn not support a Parliamentary
vote for the General Election he's been screaming for for so long.

It's

Post by Spike
quite the spectacle to see the real Jeremy Corbyn exposed and crushed.

Yes, Corbyn (and his dimwit supporters) have walked right into Boris‘s
trap.

Which desert is your head buried in?

They can control parliamentary proceedings as much as they like, but it
will not get them out of the trap.

Meaning it is actually Cummings who controls things?
Very apt for you Brexiteers.

Are you implying that there is person making decisions on behalf of this
country who is unelected and can't be got rid of? Isn't this where we
started?

Of course it is not.

All countries havce civil servants who are unelected and make decisions,
but in Britain thay are answerable to ministers, and those ministers are
answerable to the public via the electoral process.

Not so in the EU.

It is strange how at the moment only Boris wants an election.
I wonder why...

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that cannot be done worse and more expensively and with higher carbon
emissions and more adverse environmental impact by adding intermittent
renewable energy.

michael adams

2019-09-04 16:24:14 UTC

Post by The Natural Philosopher
It is strange how at the moment only Boris wants an election.
I wonder why...

Because unlike Jeremy Corbyn he's appeared on "Have I Got News For You"
six times, and "Top Gear" twice.

Which obviously makes him far better Prime Ministerial material.

In fact the only way he could have proved himself even more suitable
would be if he'd hosted a few series of "The Apprentice" as well.

Next question ?

michael adams

...

Pamela

2019-09-04 22:05:12 UTC

It is strange how at the moment only Boris wants an election. I wonder
why...

Because unlike Jeremy Corbyn he's appeared on "Have I Got News For You"
six times, and "Top Gear" twice.
Which obviously makes him far better Prime Ministerial material.
In fact the only way he could have proved himself even more suitable
would be if he'd hosted a few series of "The Apprentice" as well.
Next question ?

Boris is an incompetent clown wherever he appears. Currently he's the
only British prime minister who has lost every vote.

Spike

2019-09-05 07:54:54 UTC

Post by Pamela
Boris is an incompetent clown wherever he appears. Currently he's the
only British prime minister who has lost every vote.

And Corbyn is the only opposition leader to call for a General Election
for two years and then refuse the chance when it was offered.

--
Spike

Stephen Cole

2019-09-05 08:11:16 UTC

Post by Pamela
Boris is an incompetent clown wherever he appears. Currently he's the
only British prime minister who has lost every vote.

And Corbyn is the only opposition leader to call for a General Election
for two years and then refuse the chance when it was offered.

He’s giving BoJo a few more weeks worth of rope to hang himself with, Burt.
The smartest thing for the opposition parties to do is to get into
November, after Boris has been forced to beg the EU for an extension and no
deal has been averted, and then call no confidence in the government.
Sorted! HTH.

--
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Rambo

2019-09-05 08:51:00 UTC

On 5 Sep 2019 08:11:16 GMT, Stephen Cole

Post by Pamela
Boris is an incompetent clown wherever he appears. Currently he's the
only British prime minister who has lost every vote.

And Corbyn is the only opposition leader to call for a General Election
for two years and then refuse the chance when it was offered.

Hes giving BoJo a few more weeks worth of rope to hang himself with, Burt.
The smartest thing for the opposition parties to do is to get into
November, after Boris has been forced to beg the EU for an extension and no
deal has been averted, and then call no confidence in the government.
Sorted! HTH.

Correct. Jezza knows full well that if Johnson can't get a deal from
the EU by Nov 1st that can get through Parliament, (which is highly
unlikely) then the Tory vote will be split by Farage in a later
November election.

Jezza isn't running scared of an election at all. His strategy and
those of the other opposition parties is quite clear.

Norman Wells

2019-09-05 09:24:26 UTC

Post by Rambo
On 5 Sep 2019 08:11:16 GMT, Stephen Cole

Post by Pamela
Boris is an incompetent clown wherever he appears. Currently he's the
only British prime minister who has lost every vote.

And Corbyn is the only opposition leader to call for a General Election
for two years and then refuse the chance when it was offered.

If he goes openly for no deal as the only viable option, though, he'll
hoover up all the Brexit Party voters, probably with Farage's blessing.
And that's quite possible because no-one can see any deal being reached
that is acceptable to both the EU and the UK Parliament. We've tried
that before. It hasn't worked, and almost certainly won't.

Post by Rambo
Jezza isn't running scared of an election at all.

If he's not, he should be. He's at just over 20% in the polls compared
with the 40% he actually achieved last time out, and is now sharing any
remain voters with the LibDems and the Greens. It's obvious what that
will mean as regards seats in Parliament.

Post by Rambo
His strategy and
those of the other opposition parties is quite clear.

Yes, it's prevaricate, delay and cross their fingers hoping for
something to turn up to change their fortunes.

Spike

2019-09-05 09:40:46 UTC

Post by Rambo

Post by Pamela
Boris is an incompetent clown wherever he appears. Currently he's the
only British prime minister who has lost every vote.

And Corbyn is the only opposition leader to call for a General Election
for two years and then refuse the chance when it was offered.

He�s giving BoJo a few more weeks worth of rope to hang himself with, Burt.
The smartest thing for the opposition parties to do is to get into
November, after Boris has been forced to beg the EU for an extension and no
deal has been averted, and then call no confidence in the government.
Sorted! HTH.

Correct. Jezza knows full well that if Johnson can't get a deal from
the EU by Nov 1st that can get through Parliament, (which is highly
unlikely) then the Tory vote will be split by Farage in a later
November election.
Jezza isn't running scared of an election at all. His strategy and
those of the other opposition parties is quite clear.

Interesting, but I did say that 'Corbyn is the only opposition leader to
call for a General Election for two years and then refuse the chance
when it was offered', and no-one has refuted that - although Cole's
imaginary friend ('Burt') now seems to be getting a pasting over the issue.

--
Spike

Norman Wells

2019-09-05 08:23:55 UTC

Post by Pamela

It is strange how at the moment only Boris wants an election. I wonder
why...

Because unlike Jeremy Corbyn he's appeared on "Have I Got News For You"
six times, and "Top Gear" twice.
Which obviously makes him far better Prime Ministerial material.
In fact the only way he could have proved himself even more suitable
would be if he'd hosted a few series of "The Apprentice" as well.
Next question ?

Boris is an incompetent clown wherever he appears. Currently he's the
only British prime minister who has lost every vote.

And Corbyn is the only opposition leader in history to spurn the
opportunity of a general election that could get rid of him.

Strange times.

michael adams

2019-09-04 16:44:36 UTC

Post by The Natural Philosopher
It is strange how at the moment only Boris wants an election.
I wonder why...

The actual answer...

If he calls an election the constituencies of the deselected rebel Tories
and retirees will be able to put up new loyal candidates. Thus maintaining
or increasing his majority (so he hopes)

As it is, his position is falling away as a result of withdrawing the
whip from the rebels who are either going to vote against him, or abstain.

Why should Corbyn want to help him out at this point ?

The penny possibly dropped as he was facing Corbyn across the
dispatch box and was reduced I believe, to calling him a big girl's blouse.

Anyway, thank you for your question.

michael adams

....

charles

2019-09-04 17:13:44 UTC

Post by The Natural Philosopher
It is strange how at the moment only Boris wants an election.
I wonder why...

and these current MPS might stand as Independents, so splitting the Tory
vote.

Post by michael adams
As it is, his position is falling away as a result of withdrawing the
whip from the rebels who are either going to vote against him, or abstain.
Why should Corbyn want to help him out at this point ?
The penny possibly dropped as he was facing Corbyn across the dispatch
box and was reduced I believe, to calling him a big girl's blouse.
Anyway, thank you for your question.
michael adams
....

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"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

charles

2019-09-04 17:53:00 UTC

It is strange how at the moment only Boris wants an election. I
wonder why...

and these current MPS might stand as Independents, so splitting the
Tory vote.

Do you REALLY think any of them will even retain their deposit outside
the Party?

The Guildford MP, one of the 'rebels', was reflecting the opinions of her
constituents - who voted 'remain'. She might do very well on her own.

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

michael adams

2019-09-04 18:41:52 UTC

Post by The Natural Philosopher
It is strange how at the moment only Boris wants an election.
I wonder why...

and these current MPS might stand as Independents, so splitting the Tory
vote.

That's probably why he's in such a hurry. Getting organised
to fight an election as an independent takes some doing and
also money. Its the sort of detail the agent will have taken
care of previously, getting leaflets printed, arranging
canvassing. Independants like Frank Field were threatening
to jump ship for years and so will probably already
have made plenty of preparations.
Rory Stewart was on the TV insisting he's still a
Conservative and maybe some of the others as well.
For some of them standing against the official candidites
would probably destroy any hopes of their being
re-admitted into the Party under a new leader as maybe
they hope will happen.

Interesting times.

michael adams

...

dennis@home

2019-09-04 18:49:56 UTC

Post by The Natural Philosopher
It is strange how at the moment only Boris wants an election.
I wonder why...

and these current MPS might stand as Independents, so splitting the Tory
vote.

Do you REALLY think any of them will even retain their deposit outside
the Party?
They wouldnt split the tory vote, they would split the lib dem vote.,
Now a one issue 'remain' protest party.

They aren't remain, they are the population wants a deal.

Its democracy in action.

jeikppkywk

2019-09-04 20:37:42 UTC

Post by The Natural Philosopher
It is strange how at the moment only Boris wants an election.
I wonder why...

and these current MPS might stand as Independents, so splitting the Tory
vote.

Do you REALLY think any of them will even retain their deposit outside the
Party?

Yep, some of them who are very well accepted by their constituency would be.

That’s how Carswell got to be a UKIP MP.

They wouldnt split the tory vote, they would split the lib dem vote.,

True.

Now a one issue 'remain' protest party.

Peeler

2019-09-04 20:56:19 UTC

On Thu, 5 Sep 2019 06:37:42 +1000, jeikppkywk, better known as cantankerous

Post by jeikppkywk
Yep, some of them who are very well accepted by their constituency would be.
That’s how Carswell got to be a UKIP MP.

They wouldnt split the tory vote, they would split the lib dem vote.,

True.

NOBODY talked to you, you trolling senile pest from Oz!

--
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"Rod speed is not a Brexiteer. He is an Australian troll and arsehole."
Message-ID: <pu07vj$s5$***@dont-email.me>

Pamela

2019-09-04 22:03:27 UTC

Post by The Natural Philosopher
It is strange how at the moment only Boris wants an election.
I wonder why...

and these current MPS might stand as Independents, so splitting the
Tory vote.

Do you REALLY think any of them will even retain their deposit outside
the Party?
They wouldnt split the tory vote, they would split the lib dem vote.,
Now a one issue 'remain' protest party.

Philip Hammond, Nicholas Soames, Ken Clarke all have strong enough local
support to split the Tory vote.

Another question might be whether Boris would get elected if the Tories
dumped him.

dennis@home

2019-09-04 18:51:39 UTC

Post by The Natural Philosopher
It is strange how at the moment only Boris wants an election.
I wonder why...

The actual answer...
If he calls an election the constituencies of the deselected rebel Tories
and retirees will be able to put up new loyal candidates. Thus maintaining
or increasing his majority (so he hopes)
As it is, his position is falling away as a result of withdrawing the
whip from the rebels who are either going to vote against him, or abstain.
Why should Corbyn want to help him out at this point ?
The penny possibly dropped as he was facing Corbyn across the
dispatch box and was reduced I believe, to calling him a big girl's blouse.
Anyway, thank you for your question.

So you admit that the popular mandate in the country is with Boris?
And leaving?
Without a deal?
So why not have a 'peoples vote' on it?

Stop making stuff up.
Most of the population want a deal including those that voted leave.

Keema's Nan

2019-09-04 19:04:51 UTC

Post by The Natural Philosopher
It is strange how at the moment only Boris wants an election.
I wonder why...

The actual answer...
If he calls an election the constituencies of the deselected rebel Tories
and retirees will be able to put up new loyal candidates. Thus maintaining
or increasing his majority (so he hopes)
As it is, his position is falling away as a result of withdrawing the
whip from the rebels who are either going to vote against him, or abstain.
Why should Corbyn want to help him out at this point ?
The penny possibly dropped as he was facing Corbyn across the
dispatch box and was reduced I believe, to calling him a big girl's blouse.
Anyway, thank you for your question.

So you admit that the popular mandate in the country is with Boris?
And leaving?
Without a deal?
So why not have a 'peoples vote' on it?

Stop making stuff up.
Most of the population want a deal including those that voted leave.

When people say “most of the population” they usually mean their mummy,
daddy, big sister (who they spy on in their bedroom), and the dog.

Ian Jackson

2019-09-04 19:36:45 UTC

Post by The Natural Philosopher
It is strange how at the moment only Boris wants an election.
I wonder why...

The actual answer...
If he calls an election the constituencies of the deselected rebel Tories
and retirees will be able to put up new loyal candidates. Thus maintaining
or increasing his majority (so he hopes)
As it is, his position is falling away as a result of withdrawing the
whip from the rebels who are either going to vote against him, or abstain.
Why should Corbyn want to help him out at this point ?
The penny possibly dropped as he was facing Corbyn across the
dispatch box and was reduced I believe, to calling him a big girl's blouse.
Anyway, thank you for your question.

So you admit that the popular mandate in the country is with Boris?
And leaving?
Without a deal?
So why not have a 'peoples vote' on it?

Stop making stuff up.
Most of the population want a deal including those that voted leave.

These days, I doubt if most of the population even want to leave at all.

--
Ian

The Natural Philosopher

2019-09-04 20:17:34 UTC

Post by Ian Jackson

Post by The Natural Philosopher
It is strange how at the moment only Boris wants an election.
I wonder why...

The actual answer...
If he calls an election the constituencies of the deselected rebel Tories
and retirees will be able to put up new loyal candidates. Thus maintaining
or increasing his majority (so he hopes)
As it is, his position is falling away as a result of withdrawing the
whip from the rebels who are either going to vote against him, or abstain.
Why should Corbyn want to help him out at this point ?
The penny possibly dropped as he was facing Corbyn across the
dispatch box and was reduced I believe, to calling him a big girl's blouse.
Anyway, thank you for your question.

So you admit that the popular mandate in the country is with Boris?
And leaving?
Without a deal?
So why not have a 'peoples vote' on it?

Stop making stuff up.
Most of the population want a deal including those that voted leave.

These days, I doubt if most of the population even want to leave at all.

Bless.

Well then - have an election.

--
"When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign,
that the dunces are all in confederacy against him."

Jonathan Swift.

jeikppkywk

2019-09-04 21:14:44 UTC

Post by Ian Jackson

Post by The Natural Philosopher
It is strange how at the moment only Boris wants an election.
I wonder why...

The actual answer...
If he calls an election the constituencies of the deselected rebel Tories
and retirees will be able to put up new loyal candidates. Thus maintaining
or increasing his majority (so he hopes)
As it is, his position is falling away as a result of withdrawing the
whip from the rebels who are either going to vote against him, or abstain.
Why should Corbyn want to help him out at this point ?
The penny possibly dropped as he was facing Corbyn across the
dispatch box and was reduced I believe, to calling him a big girl's blouse.
Anyway, thank you for your question.

So you admit that the popular mandate in the country is with Boris?
And leaving?
Without a deal?
So why not have a 'peoples vote' on it?

Stop making stuff up.
Most of the population want a deal including those that voted leave.

These days, I doubt if most of the population even want to leave at all.

Bless.
Well then - have an election.

Hard to get one when even that fool Corbyn knows he would lose lots of
seats.

Peeler

2019-09-04 21:32:50 UTC

On Thu, 5 Sep 2019 07:14:44 +1000, jeikppkywk, better known as cantankerous

Post by Ian Jackson
These days, I doubt if most of the population even want to leave at all.

Bless.
Well then - have an election.

Hard to get one when even that fool Corbyn knows he would lose lots of
seats.

Even Corbyn isn't as much of a fool as you and especially no pathological
trolling asshole like you, you abnormal senile pest from Oz!

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cretin from Oz:
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Pamela

2019-09-04 21:58:45 UTC

Post by Ian Jackson

Post by The Natural Philosopher
It is strange how at the moment only Boris wants an election.
I wonder why...

The actual answer...
If he calls an election the constituencies of the deselected rebel
Tories and retirees will be able to put up new loyal candidates.
Thus maintaining or increasing his majority (so he hopes)
As it is, his position is falling away as a result of withdrawing
the whip from the rebels who are either going to vote against him,
or abstain.
Why should Corbyn want to help him out at this point ?
The penny possibly dropped as he was facing Corbyn across the
dispatch box and was reduced I believe, to calling him a big girl's blouse.
Anyway, thank you for your question.

So you admit that the popular mandate in the country is with Boris?
And leaving? Without a deal? So why not have a 'peoples vote' on it?

Stop making stuff up. Most of the population want a deal including
those that voted leave.

These days, I doubt if most of the population even want to leave at all.

Bless.
Well then - have an election.

Have a referendum on the best deal or Remain.

michael adams

2019-09-04 19:11:50 UTC

Post by The Natural Philosopher
It is strange how at the moment only Boris wants an election.
I wonder why...

The actual answer...
If he calls an election the constituencies of the deselected rebel Tories
and retirees will be able to put up new loyal candidates. Thus maintaining
or increasing his majority (so he hopes)
As it is, his position is falling away as a result of withdrawing the
whip from the rebels who are either going to vote against him, or abstain.
Why should Corbyn want to help him out at this point ?
The penny possibly dropped as he was facing Corbyn across the
dispatch box and was reduced I believe, to calling him a big girl's blouse.
Anyway, thank you for your question.

So you admit that the popular mandate in the country is with Boris?

Er no. What makes yoyu say that ? I'm not even sure what you mean by the
popular mandate in this context.

And leaving?
Without a deal?
So why not have a 'peoples vote' on it?

Have another referendum ?

There's another twenty posts worth of trollinhg on that one.

michael adams

...

Tim Lamb

2019-09-04 16:54:47 UTC

Post by Spike
We're about to see Cole's Comrade Corbyn not support a Parliamentary
vote for the General Election he's been screaming for for so long.

It's

Post by Spike
quite the spectacle to see the real Jeremy Corbyn exposed and crushed.

Yes, Corbyn (and his dimwit supporters) have walked right into Boris‘s
trap.

Which desert is your head buried in?

They can control parliamentary proceedings as much as they like, but it
will not get them out of the trap.

Meaning it is actually Cummings who controls things?
Very apt for you Brexiteers.

Are you implying that there is person making decisions on behalf of
this country who is unelected and can't be got rid of? Isn't this
where we started?

Of course it is not.
All countries havce civil servants who are unelected and make
decisions, but in Britain thay are answerable to ministers, and those
ministers are answerable to the public via the electoral process.
Not so in the EU.

I thought you would rise to that:-)

Post by The Natural Philosopher
It is strange how at the moment only Boris wants an election.
I wonder why...

The pundits say he has choice of date and could make it after the 31st.

Interesting to see if the Lords talk out the delay bill.

--
Tim Lamb

jeikppkywk

2019-09-04 20:12:04 UTC

Post by Spike
We're about to see Cole's Comrade Corbyn not support a Parliamentary
vote for the General Election he's been screaming for for so long.

It's

Post by Spike
quite the spectacle to see the real Jeremy Corbyn exposed and crushed.

Yes, Corbyn (and his dimwit supporters) have walked right into Boris‘s
trap.

Which desert is your head buried in?

They can control parliamentary proceedings as much as they like, but it
will not get them out of the trap.

Meaning it is actually Cummings who controls things?
Very apt for you Brexiteers.

Are you implying that there is person making decisions on behalf of this
country who is unelected and can't be got rid of? Isn't this where we
started?

Of course it is not.
All countries havce civil servants who are unelected and make decisions,
but in Britain thay are answerable to ministers, and those ministers are
answerable to the public via the electoral process.
Not so in the EU.
It is strange how at the moment only Boris wants an election.

He just said that he doesn’t and I bet he means that.

Post by The Natural Philosopher
I wonder why...

The Natural Philosopher

2019-09-04 20:18:08 UTC

Post by Spike
We're about to see Cole's Comrade Corbyn not support a Parliamentary
vote for the General Election he's been screaming for for so long.

It's

Post by Spike
quite the spectacle to see the real Jeremy Corbyn exposed and >

crushed.
Yes, Corbyn (and his dimwit supporters) have walked right into Boris‘s
trap.

Which desert is your head buried in?

Post by Stephen Cole
They can control parliamentary proceedings as much as they like, but it
will not get them out of the trap.

Meaning it is actually Cummings who controls things?
Very apt for you Brexiteers.

Are you implying that there is person making decisions on behalf of
this country who is unelected and can't be got rid of? Isn't this
where we started?

Of course it is not.
All countries havce civil servants who are unelected and make
decisions, but in Britain thay are answerable to ministers, and those
ministers are answerable to the public via the electoral process.
Not so in the EU.
It is strange how at the moment only Boris wants an election.

He just said that he doesn’t and I bet he means that.

Then why is he introducing a bill to try and have one?

Post by The Natural Philosopher
I wonder why...

--
"When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign,
that the dunces are all in confederacy against him."

Jonathan Swift.

jeikppkywk

2019-09-04 21:17:09 UTC

Post by Spike
We're about to see Cole's Comrade Corbyn not support a
Parliamentary
vote for the General Election he's been screaming for for so long.

It's

Post by Spike
quite the spectacle to see the real Jeremy Corbyn exposed and >

crushed.
Yes, Corbyn (and his dimwit supporters) have walked right into Boris‘s
trap.

Which desert is your head buried in?

Post by Stephen Cole
They can control parliamentary proceedings as much as they like, but it
will not get them out of the trap.

Meaning it is actually Cummings who controls things?
Very apt for you Brexiteers.

Are you implying that there is person making decisions on behalf of
this country who is unelected and can't be got rid of? Isn't this where
we started?

Of course it is not.
All countries havce civil servants who are unelected and make decisions,
but in Britain thay are answerable to ministers, and those ministers are
answerable to the public via the electoral process.
Not so in the EU.
It is strange how at the moment only Boris wants an election.

He just said that he doesn’t and I bet he means that.

Then why is he introducing a bill to try and have one?

To try bluff the rest of the fools into not making a no deal brexit illegal.

He knows there is no chance of a 2/3 majority voting for a general election.

Post by The Natural Philosopher
I wonder why...

Peeler

2019-09-04 21:36:13 UTC

On Thu, 5 Sep 2019 07:17:09 +1000, jeikppkywk, better known as cantankerous

Post by The Natural Philosopher
Then why is he introducing a bill to try and have one?

To try bluff the rest of the fools into not making a no deal brexit illegal.
He knows there is no chance of a 2/3 majority voting for a general election.

Hey, are trying to distract from the FACT that you just ignominiously LIED
when you claimed that he "he just said that he doesn’t [want an election]",
you senile cretin from Oz?

--
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cretin from Oz:
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Peeler

2019-09-04 20:57:26 UTC

On Thu, 5 Sep 2019 06:12:04 +1000, jeikppkywk, better known as cantankerous

Post by The Natural Philosopher
Not so in the EU.
It is strange how at the moment only Boris wants an election.

He just said that he doesn’t and I bet he means that.

Hallucinating now, you 85-year-old senile idiot from Oz? LOL

--
Bill Wright to Rot Speed:
"That confirms my opinion that you are a despicable little shit."
MID: <pjqpo3$1la0$***@gioia.aioe.org>

Keema's Nan

2019-09-04 11:42:23 UTC

Yes, Corbyn (and his dimwit supporters) have walked right into Boris‘s
trap.

Which desert is your head buried in?

The one called 'UK Parliament logical and adult decisions'.

They can control parliamentary proceedings as much as they like, but it
will not get them out of the trap.

Meaning it is actually Cummings who controls things?
Very apt for you Brexiteers.

dennis@home

2019-09-04 11:46:34 UTC

Yes, Corbyn (and his dimwit supporters) have walked right into Boris‘s
trap.

Which desert is your head buried in?

The one called 'UK Parliament logical and adult decisions'.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49551893

The UK parliament is doing what the majority say they want.

To do anything else is undemocratic.

Rod Speed

2019-09-04 19:30:24 UTC

Yes, Corbyn (and his dimwit supporters) have walked right into Boris‘s
trap.

Which desert is your head buried in?

The one called 'UK Parliament logical and adult decisions'.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49551893
The UK parliament is doing what the majority say they want.

Nope, what the polls claim that the majority say they want.

Post by ***@home
To do anything else is undemocratic.

Yeah, fuck the referendum where we can see what
those who bothered to vote said they wanted.

Norman Wells

2019-09-04 09:02:31 UTC

It is a bit weak and watery, isn't it? Oh yes, we want an election,
we're ready, bring it on. Oh, you mean *now*? Well, we didn't mean
that exactly, er, obviously. We're not doing too well in the polls, and
weren't expecting one for quite a time yet, and we're not really ready.
Yes, of course we'll do whatever it takes to rid the country of this
dangerous government as soon as possible. It's absolutely necessary.
We're the next government and can't wait to lead the country as it
should be led.

Can you get back to us on that one please?

Roger Hayter

2019-09-04 09:40:15 UTC

Perhaps Corbyn thinks that preventing no-deal Brexit is more important
than becoming PM. Boris could easily change the date of the election
to November, after Brexit. So just be patient a week unilt the No Deal
Act is law and I'm sure we'll be glad to arrange a general election.

--
Roger Hayter

Keema's Nan

2019-09-04 09:52:13 UTC

Spiders are not nicknamed Boris for no reason.

They lure the innocent unwary into their webs, and by the time they realise
what has happened it is too late.....

michael adams

2019-09-04 11:53:52 UTC

"Keema's Nan" <***@bungay.com> wrote in message news:***@news.giganews.com...
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Post by Keema's Nan
Spiders are not nicknamed Boris for no reason.

<quote>

"Boris the Spider" (1966) was written after Entwistle had been out drinking
with the Rolling Stones' bass guitarist, Bill Wyman. They were making up funny
names for animals when Entwistle came up with "Boris the Spider".

</quote>

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_the_Spider

michael adams

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tim...

2019-09-04 12:01:17 UTC

Spiders are not nicknamed Boris for no reason.

except that they are not :-)

tim

Norman Wells

2019-09-04 09:58:20 UTC

By which time Labour will have staged a remarkable recovery in the polls
from the 20% or so it languishes at at the moment, will it?

Seems a bit risky to me.

Maybe Corbyn will have to find another excuse not to get rid of this
dangerous government he despises so much.

Dave Plowman (News)

2019-09-04 10:16:41 UTC

Post by Norman Wells
Maybe Corbyn will have to find another excuse not to get rid of this
dangerous government he despises so much.

Which means you must approve of them?

Good to know there is one, at least.

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Stephen Cole

2019-09-04 14:52:59 UTC

Nonsense.
Corbyn knows he will be toast in an election and is too cowardly to risk
agreeing to one.

Labour landslide before Christmas, OM.

Boris has will not only secure Brexit but ensure Labour is unelectable
for at least a decade.

You shouldn’t be this pissed up so early in the day, Brian.

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2019-09-04 09:42:27 UTC

It is a bit weak and watery, isn't it? Oh yes, we want an election, we're
ready, bring it on. Oh, you mean *now*? Well, we didn't mean that
exactly, er, obviously. We're not doing too well in the polls, and
weren't expecting one for quite a time yet, and we're not really ready.
Yes, of course we'll do whatever it takes to rid the country of this
dangerous government as soon as possible. It's absolutely necessary.
We're the next government and can't wait to lead the country as it should
be led.

I think Corbyn is hoping that he will become PM by default if there is a
vote of no confidence in Boris and the government. That way he won't have to
face a general election for some time - maybe until the current fixed term
expires.

To my mind, this concept of the *opposition* leader being made the caretaker
PM is utterly abhorrent. He and the Labour party came *second*, so they
should never have any chance of becoming PM/government - except through a
general election. I'd like to see a vote of no confidence trigger an
automatic general election, once the present government has done what it can
to win back parliament's confidence, and failed to do so.

I'm waiting to see how long Corbyn lasts, and how long it takes the Labour
party to realise that the only way for them to win a general election is to
replace him with a more right-wing, Blair-like leader with matching
policies.

Norman Wells

2019-09-04 10:10:58 UTC

Post by NY

It is a bit weak and watery, isn't it? Oh yes, we want an election,
we're ready, bring it on. Oh, you mean *now*? Well, we didn't mean
that exactly, er, obviously. We're not doing too well in the polls,
and weren't expecting one for quite a time yet, and we're not really
ready. Yes, of course we'll do whatever it takes to rid the country of
this dangerous government as soon as possible. It's absolutely
necessary. We're the next government and can't wait to lead the
country as it should be led.

It doesn't work like that. If there's a vote of no confidence, and that
passes, there has to be another vote within 14 days reversing that or
there has to be a general election. Boris would be under no obligation
to resign after the first vote. He's fully entitled to stay on and try
to get it reversed. And while there's no vacancy as Prime Minister,
no-one else can be appointed.

It's pie-in-the-sky to think Corbyn could become Prime Minister by
default, even if all the opposition parties and the Tory rebels united
behind him, which of course they won't.

Post by NY
To my mind, this concept of the *opposition* leader being made the
caretaker PM is utterly abhorrent. He and the Labour party came
*second*, so they should never have any chance of becoming PM/government
- except through a general election. I'd like to see a vote of no
confidence trigger an automatic general election, once the present
government has done what it can to win back parliament's confidence, and
failed to do so.

But a vote of no confidence would have to be triggered by Labour, and
they've backed away from that this week because they really, really
don't want a general election in which they would lose a lot of seats.
That's the reason they've decided rather pathetically for an opposition
not even to support a call for an early general election. Whatever
their excuses, they're actually running scared.

Post by NY
I'm waiting to see how long Corbyn lasts, and how long it takes the
Labour party to realise that the only way for them to win a general
election is to replace him with a more right-wing, Blair-like leader
with matching policies.

With the £3 Trots in control of who is leader, he's likely to be in post
for some considerable time, for good or bad.

Rod Speed

2019-09-04 10:26:05 UTC

Post by NY

It is a bit weak and watery, isn't it? Oh yes, we want an election,
we're ready, bring it on. Oh, you mean *now*? Well, we didn't mean that
exactly, er, obviously. We're not doing too well in the polls, and
weren't expecting one for quite a time yet, and we're not really ready.
Yes, of course we'll do whatever it takes to rid the country of this
dangerous government as soon as possible. It's absolutely necessary.
We're the next government and can't wait to lead the country as it should
be led.

I think Corbyn is hoping that he will become PM by default if there is a
vote of no confidence in Boris and the government. That way he won't have
to face a general election for some time - maybe until the current fixed
term expires.
To my mind, this concept of the *opposition* leader being made the
caretaker PM is utterly abhorrent. He and the Labour party came *second*,
so they should never have any chance of becoming PM/government - except
through a general election. I'd like to see a vote of no confidence
trigger an automatic general election, once the present government has
done what it can to win back parliament's confidence, and failed to do so.
I'm waiting to see how long Corbyn lasts, and how long it takes the Labour
party to realise that the only way for them to win a general election is
to replace him with a more right-wing, Blair-like leader with matching
policies.

Cant see they having enough of a clue to have another Blair again, or
there being another Blair again either. That doesn’t happen more than
once, just like there is only ever the one Thatcher or Churchill either.

Peeler

2019-09-04 10:50:32 UTC

On Wed, 4 Sep 2019 20:26:05 +1000, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent

Post by Rod Speed
Cant see they having enough of a clue to have another Blair again, or
there being another Blair again either. That doesn’t happen more than
once, just like there is only ever the one Thatcher or Churchill either.

LOL You just HAVE to auto-contradict, you senile trolling Australian
asshole! It's certainly one of the main reasons why you became a forsaken
senile cretin in real life and why you NEED to troll on Usenet!

--
"Anonymous" to trolling senile Rot Speed:
"You can fuck off as you know less than pig shit you sad
little ignorant cunt."
MID: <***@haph.org>

tim...

2019-09-04 11:56:32 UTC

It is a bit weak and watery, isn't it? Oh yes, we want an election, we're
ready, bring it on. Oh, you mean *now*? Well, we didn't mean that
exactly, er, obviously. We're not doing too well in the polls, and
weren't expecting one for quite a time yet, and we're not really ready.
Yes, of course we'll do whatever it takes to rid the country of this
dangerous government as soon as possible. It's absolutely necessary.
We're the next government and can't wait to lead the country as it should
be led.

come on Norman

you know as well as anyone that such brickbats will be forgotten in a couple
of month's time, when they agree to an election (after the leaving date has
been extended, or whatever)

tim

Can you get back to us on that one please?

Norman Wells

2019-09-04 13:25:08 UTC

It is a bit weak and watery, isn't it? Oh yes, we want an election,
we're ready, bring it on. Oh, you mean *now*? Well, we didn't mean
that exactly, er, obviously. We're not doing too well in the polls,
and weren't expecting one for quite a time yet, and we're not really
ready. Yes, of course we'll do whatever it takes to rid the country of
this dangerous government as soon as possible. It's absolutely
necessary. We're the next government and can't wait to lead the
country as it should be led.

come on Norman
you know as well as anyone that such brickbats will be forgotten in a
couple of month's time, when they agree to an election (after the
leaving date has been extended, or whatever)

Corbyn reminds me of St Augustine;

"Lord, make me chaste - but not yet'.

Keema's Nan

2019-09-04 13:48:02 UTC

It is a bit weak and watery, isn't it? Oh yes, we want an election,
we're ready, bring it on. Oh, you mean *now*? Well, we didn't mean
that exactly, er, obviously. We're not doing too well in the polls,
and weren't expecting one for quite a time yet, and we're not really
ready. Yes, of course we'll do whatever it takes to rid the country of
this dangerous government as soon as possible. It's absolutely
necessary. We're the next government and can't wait to lead the
country as it should be led.

come on Norman
you know as well as anyone that such brickbats will be forgotten in a
couple of month's time, when they agree to an election (after the
leaving date has been extended, or whatever)

Corbyn reminds me of St Augustine;
"Lord, make me chaste - but not yet'.

That, and “Lord make me PM - but without any kind of party majority”.

Pamela

2019-09-05 06:49:46 UTC

Post by Spike
We're about to see Cole's Comrade Corbyn not support a
Parliamentary vote for the General Election he's been screaming
for for so long. It's quite the spectacle to see the real Jeremy
Corbyn exposed and crushed.

It is a bit weak and watery, isn't it? Oh yes, we want an election,
we're ready, bring it on. Oh, you mean *now*? Well, we didn't mean
that exactly, er, obviously. We're not doing too well in the polls,
and weren't expecting one for quite a time yet, and we're not
really ready. Yes, of course we'll do whatever it takes to rid the
country of this dangerous government as soon as possible. It's
absolutely necessary. We're the next government and can't wait to
lead the country as it should be led.

come on Norman
you know as well as anyone that such brickbats will be forgotten in a
couple of month's time, when they agree to an election (after the
leaving date has been extended, or whatever)

Corbyn reminds me of St Augustine;
"Lord, make me chaste - but not yet'.

That, and Lord make me PM - but without any kind of party
majority.

Boris's greatest achievement has been to go from a working majority to
minority within weeks. And have Parliament clip his wings.

The papers say, "Cornered Boris Johnson suffers triple Commons defeat".

Now Boris has to find the money for his spending pledges. At the same
time as negotiating his alternative deal (if it exists) with the EU.

What a mess. It couldn't have happened to a more deserving person.

Norman Wells

2019-09-05 08:01:00 UTC

Post by Pamela

Post by Norman Wells
Corbyn reminds me of St Augustine;
"Lord, make me chaste - but not yet'.

That, and Lord make me PM - but without any kind of party
majority.

Boris's greatest achievement has been to go from a working majority to
minority within weeks. And have Parliament clip his wings.

No, this is another misunderstanding of yours. He never had a 'working
majority' except with the support of the DUP, and their support was only
on a 'supply and confidence' basis, ie guaranteed in certain votes at
certain times.

I suggest you go and read up about that sort of agreement to avoid
further ignorant outbursts.

Post by Pamela
The papers say, "Cornered Boris Johnson suffers triple Commons defeat".

They can count up to three then? That's an improvement.

Post by Pamela
Now Boris has to find the money for his spending pledges.

Not necessarily. Unless of course you assume, as it seems you do, that
he will win a general election in the near future. If he doesn't, it
won't be his government that has to find any money at all.

Post by Pamela
At the same
time as negotiating his alternative deal (if it exists) with the EU.

He can be told to write a letter to the EU - actually, he doesn't have
to write anything but has to just cut it out of the Bill that nicely
sets it all out for him - but it's very difficult to make him negotiate
anything at all or even know if he's doing anything.

Post by Pamela
What a mess. It couldn't have happened to a more deserving person.

The answer of course for a minority government unable to do anything
because Parliament is against it, is to have a general election. That's
in the national interest. But the opposition leader, for the only time
in history, has spurned the opportunity to have an election and take over.

It's as if Corbyn doesn't really want to. And that's a bit strange or
even hypocritical given his bombastic 'I'm ready, we're ready, bring it
on' attitude just a couple of days ago.

We live in very strange times.

tim...

2019-09-05 08:48:01 UTC

come on Norman
you know as well as anyone that such brickbats will be forgotten in a
couple of month's time, when they agree to an election (after the leaving
date has been extended, or whatever)

Corbyn reminds me of St Augustine;
"Lord, make me chaste - but not yet'.

here's how the Mail calls it:

"Boris Johnson's bid for snap election is CRUSHED: Jeremy Corbyn chickens
out of letting public go to the polls as Labour MPs abstain to inflict
humiliating defeat on PM"

Not exactly a Corbyn supporting (or Boris bashing) organ

What do you think will be most remembered when we do get to the next
election

Jeremy Chickening Out

or

Boris being Humiliated?

Norman Wells

2019-09-05 09:41:23 UTC

Post by Norman Wells
Corbyn reminds me of St Augustine;
"Lord, make me chaste - but not yet'.

"Boris Johnson's bid for snap election is CRUSHED: Jeremy Corbyn
chickens out of letting public go to the polls as Labour MPs abstain to
inflict humiliating defeat on PM"
Not exactly a Corbyn supporting (or Boris bashing) organ
What do you think will be most remembered when we do get to the next
election
Jeremy Chickening Out
or
Boris being Humiliated?

Boris being prepared to put it to the people, as is right and proper.

The Natural Philosopher

2019-09-04 09:21:12 UTC

Goodbye any thin veneer of democracy.
The people voted for Brexit, but the Establishment didn’t want that.
At least now the electorate are finding out before they have to vote (if they
can be bothered) ever again.

A small scorpion like being, with nothing to base a life on except spite.

Oh! Jeremy Corbyn!

Even the snowflakes have moved on.

--
Those who want slavery should have the grace to name it by its proper
name. They must face the full meaning of that which they are advocating
or condoning; the full, exact, specific meaning of collectivism, of its
logical implications, of the principles upon which it is based, and of
the ultimate consequences to which these principles will lead. They must
face it, then decide whether this is what they want or not.

Ayn Rand.

Stephen Cole

2019-09-04 14:52:59 UTC

Goodbye any thin veneer of democracy.
The people voted for Brexit, but the Establishment didn’t want that.
At least now the electorate are finding out before they have to vote (if they
can be bothered) ever again.

We’ll make no deal illegal first, Burt, then acquiesce to an election when
it suits us. HTH, OM, YFI.

--
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www.twitter.com/ukradioamateur

Pamela

2019-09-03 19:22:13 UTC

Post by Stephen Cole
I was watching the Commons this afternoon and was genuinely surprised to
see just how badly Boris was performing; shifty, evasive, bumbling,
stumbling, totally lost more often than not. About on a par with Theresa
May on her bad days. What's more, he looked terrified at points, like
he's just realising for the first time that he's not actually
remotely competent for the job. LOL!
So, the forthcoming General Election campaign is going to be quite the
spectacle as we see the real Boris Johnson exposed and crushed. It's
going to be great!
Goodbye Brexit! :-D

Like all failed bullies and aspiring dictators, Boris can't handle any
pushback.

All he did today in Parliament was waffle platitudes.

CheeseySock

2019-09-03 19:55:56 UTC

Post by Stephen Cole
I was watching the Commons this afternoon and was genuinely surprised to
see just how badly Boris was performing; shifty, evasive, bumbling,
stumbling, totally lost more often than not. About on a par with Theresa
May on her bad days. What’s more, he looked terrified at points, like
he’s just realising for the first time that he’s not actually remotely
competent for the job. LOL!
So, the forthcoming General Election campaign is going to be quite the
spectacle as we see the real Boris Johnson exposed and crushed. It’s
going to be great!
Goodbye Brexit! :-D

well, that's an opinion...

I reckon may be lowest ever turnout in an election as I reckon they are
all a bunch of duplicitous arrogant self-serving shite! members of
duplicitous arrogant self-serving shite secret society!

the open conspiracy eh! plain to see!

no one voted to exit the eu with all orifices plugged with eu dick eh!

Keema's Nan

2019-09-03 20:17:09 UTC

Post by Stephen Cole
I was watching the Commons this afternoon and was genuinely surprised to
see just how badly Boris was performing; shifty, evasive, bumbling,
stumbling, totally lost more often than not. About on a par with Theresa
May on her bad days. What’s more, he looked terrified at points, like
he’s just realising for the first time that he’s not actually remotely
competent for the job. LOL!
So, the forthcoming General Election campaign is going to be quite the
spectacle as we see the real Boris Johnson exposed and crushed. It’s
going to be great!
Goodbye Brexit! :-D

Not so secret now we see Cercle Clarke having his pre-planned say.

Post by CheeseySock
the open conspiracy eh! plain to see!

Exactly. At least they can’t run and hide any more pretending the plebs are
all conspiracy nutters, or whatever the Bilderberg /Redwood Grove
conspirators have decided they must be called.

Post by CheeseySock
no one voted to exit the eu with all orifices plugged with eu dick eh!

CheeseySock

2019-09-03 20:50:25 UTC

On 3 Sep 2019, CheeseySock wrote (in article

Post by Stephen Cole
I was watching the Commons this afternoon and was genuinely surprised
to see just how badly Boris was performing; shifty, evasive,
bumbling, stumbling, totally lost more often than not. About on a par
with Theresa May on her bad days. What’s more, he looked terrified at
points, like he’s just realising for the first time that he’s not
actually remotely competent for the job. LOL!
So, the forthcoming General Election campaign is going to be quite
the spectacle as we see the real Boris Johnson exposed and crushed.
It’s going to be great!
Goodbye Brexit! :-D

Not so secret now we see Cercle Clarke having his pre-planned say.

Post by CheeseySock
the open conspiracy eh! plain to see!

Exactly. At least they can’t run and hide any more pretending the plebs
are all conspiracy nutters, or whatever the Bilderberg /Redwood Grove
conspirators have decided they must be called.

oh yes they can!

Post by CheeseySock
no one voted to exit the eu with all orifices plugged with eu dick eh!

Actually I think owen jones and connie huq might be pleased with that
brexit deal!

Keema's Nan

2019-09-03 21:10:09 UTC

On 3 Sep 2019, CheeseySock wrote (in article

Post by Stephen Cole
I was watching the Commons this afternoon and was genuinely surprised
to see just how badly Boris was performing; shifty, evasive,
bumbling, stumbling, totally lost more often than not. About on a par
with Theresa May on her bad days. What’s more, he looked terrified at
points, like he’s just realising for the first time that he’s not
actually remotely competent for the job. LOL!
So, the forthcoming General Election campaign is going to be quite
the spectacle as we see the real Boris Johnson exposed and crushed.
It’s going to be great!
Goodbye Brexit! :-D

Not so secret now we see Cercle Clarke having his pre-planned say.

Post by CheeseySock
the open conspiracy eh! plain to see!

Exactly. At least they can’t run and hide any more pretending the plebs
are all conspiracy nutters, or whatever the Bilderberg /Redwood Grove
conspirators have decided they must be called.

oh yes they can!

Post by CheeseySock
no one voted to exit the eu with all orifices plugged with eu dick eh!

Actually I think owen jones and connie huq might be pleased with that
brexit deal!

The choice now faced by ordinary British people is between a neoliberal EU
supported by millionaires like Kenneth Clarke; or an ultra-neoliberal Brexit
supported by multimillionaires like Jacob Rees-Mogg.

That is some choice......

And yet the sheep-brained pleb remainers still can’t see this.

CheeseySock

2019-09-03 22:17:55 UTC

On 3 Sep 2019, CheeseySock wrote (in article

On 3 Sep 2019, CheeseySock wrote (in article

Post by Stephen Cole
I was watching the Commons this afternoon and was genuinely
surprised to see just how badly Boris was performing; shifty,
evasive,
bumbling, stumbling, totally lost more often than not. About on a
par with Theresa May on her bad days. What’s more, he looked
terrified at points, like he’s just realising for the first time
that he’s not actually remotely competent for the job. LOL!
So, the forthcoming General Election campaign is going to be
quite the spectacle as we see the real Boris Johnson exposed and
crushed. It’s going to be great!
Goodbye Brexit! :-D

Not so secret now we see Cercle Clarke having his pre-planned say.

Post by CheeseySock
the open conspiracy eh! plain to see!

Exactly. At least they can’t run and hide any more pretending the
plebs are all conspiracy nutters, or whatever the Bilderberg /Redwood
Grove conspirators have decided they must be called.

oh yes they can!

Post by CheeseySock
no one voted to exit the eu with all orifices plugged with eu dick eh!

Actually I think owen jones and connie huq might be pleased with that
brexit deal!

The choice now faced by ordinary British people is between a neoliberal
EU supported by millionaires like Kenneth Clarke; or an ultra-neoliberal
Brexit supported by multimillionaires like Jacob Rees-Mogg.
That is some choice......
And yet the sheep-brained pleb remainers still can’t see this.

if neoliberal = maoist stalinist then yeah, choice is (always has been)
shit or equally as shit. depending on your viewpoint one may be shitter
than the other, myself I think this world is run by a shit elite full
stop. and the shit elite you might throw rocks at are like shit to the
real shit elite.... (though obviously they have a system of carrot and
stick in place to promote the real shit to the ultra shit-ranks.... and
keep the other shit in their place.... a system of bullies and
gossips....)

Stephen Cole

2019-09-04 05:15:05 UTC

On 3 Sep 2019, CheeseySock wrote (in article

Post by Stephen Cole
I was watching the Commons this afternoon and was genuinely surprised
to see just how badly Boris was performing; shifty, evasive,
bumbling, stumbling, totally lost more often than not. About on a par
with Theresa May on her bad days. What’s more, he looked terrified at
points, like he’s just realising for the first time that he’s not
actually remotely competent for the job. LOL!
So, the forthcoming General Election campaign is going to be quite
the spectacle as we see the real Boris Johnson exposed and crushed.
It’s going to be great!
Goodbye Brexit! :-D

Not so secret now we see Cercle Clarke having his pre-planned say.

Post by CheeseySock
the open conspiracy eh! plain to see!

Exactly. At least they can’t run and hide any more pretending the plebs
are all conspiracy nutters, or whatever the Bilderberg /Redwood Grove
conspirators have decided they must be called.

oh yes they can!

Post by CheeseySock
no one voted to exit the eu with all orifices plugged with eu dick eh!

Actually I think owen jones and connie huq might be pleased with that
brexit deal!

The choice now faced by ordinary British people is between a neoliberal EU
supported by millionaires like Kenneth Clarke; or an ultra-neoliberal Brexit
supported by multimillionaires like Jacob Rees-Mogg.
That is some choice......
And yet the sheep-brained pleb remainers still can’t see this.

Nah. The whole thing will eventually get cancelled, and we’ll stay members
of the EU forever more.

--
M0TEY // STC
www.twitter.com/ukradioamateur

The Iceberg

2019-09-04 09:40:27 UTC

On 3 Sep 2019, CheeseySock wrote (in article

Post by Stephen Cole
I was watching the Commons this afternoon and was genuinely surprised
to see just how badly Boris was performing; shifty, evasive,
bumbling, stumbling, totally lost more often than not. About on a par
with Theresa May on her bad days. What’s more, he looked terrified at
points, like he’s just realising for the first time that he’s not
actually remotely competent for the job. LOL!
So, the forthcoming General Election campaign is going to be quite
the spectacle as we see the real Boris Johnson exposed and crushed.
It’s going to be great!
Goodbye Brexit! :-D

Not so secret now we see Cercle Clarke having his pre-planned say.

Post by CheeseySock
the open conspiracy eh! plain to see!

Exactly. At least they can’t run and hide any more pretending the plebs
are all conspiracy nutters, or whatever the Bilderberg /Redwood Grove
conspirators have decided they must be called.

oh yes they can!

Post by CheeseySock
no one voted to exit the eu with all orifices plugged with eu dick eh!

Actually I think owen jones and connie huq might be pleased with that
brexit deal!

The choice now faced by ordinary British people is between a neoliberal EU
supported by millionaires like Kenneth Clarke; or an ultra-neoliberal Brexit
supported by multimillionaires like Jacob Rees-Mogg.
That is some choice......
And yet the sheep-brained pleb remainers still can’t see this.

Nah. The whole thing will eventually get cancelled, and we’ll stay members
of the EU forever more.

why do you love the idea of being ruled by Germany? please tell us.

Roger

2019-09-04 20:01:12 UTC

Post by Stephen Cole
Nah. The whole thing will eventually get cancelled, and we’ll stay members
of the EU forever more.

No, you can't be a member of a single entity, you become part of the whole.

Quite a provincial part in the case of the case of the UK.

Archibald Tarquin Blenkinsopp ESQ [IRL]

2019-09-04 20:58:31 UTC