Discussion:
BBC and the London stabbings
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Farmer Giles
2018-04-05 07:21:00 UTC
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Listened to a 'debate' on Radio 5 yesterday - for as long as I could
stomach it, anyway, which wasn't too long.

It was hosted by that odious little shit Nicky Campbell, and was about
the recent killings in London. The, carefully vetted, callers followed
the usual BBC line - not enough police in evidence, too much
stop-and-search, etc, etc.

In fact everything but that which is glaringly obvious to anyone who is
not blind or stupid - or working for the Quisling outfit called the BBC.
One chap did, however, get through who clearly hadn't read the script
handing out by the vetters - he was black, so that's probably why.

He quickly took the wind out of the sails of the Campbell creep by
straightaway saying that the problem was within the black community -
'we have to realise that we have a problem in the black community'. He
then went on to say that generations of black youths had grown up
without a father figure in their homes and that they had succumbed to
gang culture, drugs, etc.

When Campbell had recovered his composure he started to make some feeble
noises along the lines of - 'but what about those from middle-class
white homes who do similar things?' 'What about in Glasgow and Dundee,
where drug violence is a major problem - and it's all white?'. He even
went on to make a statement along the lines of, if white people were
doing this we probably wouldn't hear about it - really?

If white people were committing one tenth of the crimes of the black
gangs in London then you can bet that the BBC, and the little shits like
campbell that they employ, would make sure that we heard very little else.

Not only do we have to pay for this treachery and deceit, we have to pay
through the nose for it - £9000 per week for Campbell alone.

Close it down.
Dan S. MacAbre
2018-04-05 09:08:58 UTC
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Farmer Giles wrote:
> Listened to a 'debate' on Radio 5 yesterday - for as long as I could
> stomach it, anyway, which wasn't too long.
>
> It was hosted by that odious little shit Nicky Campbell, and was about
> the recent killings in London. The, carefully vetted, callers followed
> the usual BBC line - not enough police in evidence, too much
> stop-and-search, etc, etc.
>
> In fact everything but that which is glaringly obvious to anyone who is
> not blind or stupid - or working for the Quisling outfit called the BBC.
> One chap did, however, get through who clearly hadn't read the script
> handing out by the vetters - he was black, so that's probably why.
>
> He quickly took the wind out of the sails of the Campbell creep by
> straightaway saying that the problem was within the black community -
> 'we have to realise that we have a problem in the black community'. He
> then went on to say that generations of black youths had grown up
> without a father figure in their homes and that they had succumbed to
> gang culture, drugs, etc.
>
> When Campbell had recovered his composure he started to make some feeble
> noises along the lines of - 'but what about those from middle-class
> white homes who do similar things?' 'What about in Glasgow and Dundee,
> where drug violence is a major problem - and it's all white?'. He even
> went on to make a statement along the lines of, if white people were
> doing this we probably wouldn't hear about it - really?
>
> If white people were committing one tenth of the crimes of the black
> gangs in London then you can bet that the BBC, and the little shits like
> campbell that they employ, would make sure that we heard very little else.
>
> Not only do we have to pay for this treachery and deceit, we have to pay
> through the nose for it - £9000 per week for Campbell alone.
>
> Close it down.
>

Maybe the plan is to destroy London slowly? TBH, I no longer care -
I'll never be going there again. I think they ought to wall it off, and
turn it into some sort of penal colony. Like 'Escape From New York'.
But in London.
Farmer Giles
2018-04-05 09:48:04 UTC
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On 05-Apr-18 10:08 AM, Dan S. MacAbre wrote:
> Farmer Giles wrote:
>> Listened to a 'debate' on Radio 5 yesterday - for as long as I could
>> stomach it, anyway, which wasn't too long.
>>
>> It was hosted by that odious little shit Nicky Campbell, and was about
>> the recent killings in London. The, carefully vetted, callers followed
>> the usual BBC line - not enough police in evidence, too much
>> stop-and-search, etc, etc.
>>
>> In fact everything but that which is glaringly obvious to anyone who is
>> not blind or stupid - or working for the Quisling outfit called the BBC.
>> One chap did, however, get through who clearly hadn't read the script
>> handing out by the vetters - he was black, so that's probably why.
>>
>> He quickly took the wind out of the sails of the Campbell creep by
>> straightaway saying that the problem was within the black community -
>> 'we have to realise that we have a problem in the black community'. He
>> then went on to say that generations of black youths had grown up
>> without a father figure in their homes and that they had succumbed to
>> gang culture, drugs, etc.
>>
>> When Campbell had recovered his composure he started to make some feeble
>> noises along the lines of - 'but what about those from middle-class
>> white homes who do similar things?' 'What about in Glasgow and Dundee,
>> where drug violence is a major problem - and it's all white?'. He even
>> went on to make a statement along the lines of, if white people were
>> doing this we probably wouldn't hear about it - really?
>>
>> If white people were committing one tenth of the crimes of the black
>> gangs in London then you can bet that the BBC, and the little shits like
>> campbell that they employ, would make sure that we heard very little
>> else.
>>
>> Not only do we have to pay for this treachery and deceit, we have to pay
>> through the nose for it - £9000 per week for Campbell alone.
>>
>> Close it down.
>>
>
> Maybe the plan is to destroy London slowly?  TBH, I no longer care -
> I'll never be going there again.  I think they ought to wall it off, and
> turn it into some sort of penal colony.  Like 'Escape From New York'.
> But in London.


I don't intend to go there again either if I can help it - but it is our
capital city, and a place I loved to spend time in in the past. The
problem is it will all be coming to a town near us soon if they have
their way. In fact it already has - there are many parts of Birmingham,
for example, that I wouldn't care to visit at night (nor very much in
the daytime!).
Dan S. MacAbre
2018-04-05 10:00:27 UTC
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Farmer Giles wrote:
> On 05-Apr-18 10:08 AM, Dan S. MacAbre wrote:
>> Farmer Giles wrote:
>>> Listened to a 'debate' on Radio 5 yesterday - for as long as I could
>>> stomach it, anyway, which wasn't too long.
>>>
>>> It was hosted by that odious little shit Nicky Campbell, and was about
>>> the recent killings in London. The, carefully vetted, callers followed
>>> the usual BBC line - not enough police in evidence, too much
>>> stop-and-search, etc, etc.
>>>
>>> In fact everything but that which is glaringly obvious to anyone who is
>>> not blind or stupid - or working for the Quisling outfit called the BBC.
>>> One chap did, however, get through who clearly hadn't read the script
>>> handing out by the vetters - he was black, so that's probably why.
>>>
>>> He quickly took the wind out of the sails of the Campbell creep by
>>> straightaway saying that the problem was within the black community -
>>> 'we have to realise that we have a problem in the black community'. He
>>> then went on to say that generations of black youths had grown up
>>> without a father figure in their homes and that they had succumbed to
>>> gang culture, drugs, etc.
>>>
>>> When Campbell had recovered his composure he started to make some feeble
>>> noises along the lines of - 'but what about those from middle-class
>>> white homes who do similar things?' 'What about in Glasgow and Dundee,
>>> where drug violence is a major problem - and it's all white?'. He even
>>> went on to make a statement along the lines of, if white people were
>>> doing this we probably wouldn't hear about it - really?
>>>
>>> If white people were committing one tenth of the crimes of the black
>>> gangs in London then you can bet that the BBC, and the little shits like
>>> campbell that they employ, would make sure that we heard very little
>>> else.
>>>
>>> Not only do we have to pay for this treachery and deceit, we have to pay
>>> through the nose for it - £9000 per week for Campbell alone.
>>>
>>> Close it down.
>>>
>>
>> Maybe the plan is to destroy London slowly? TBH, I no longer care -
>> I'll never be going there again. I think they ought to wall it off,
>> and turn it into some sort of penal colony. Like 'Escape From New
>> York'. But in London.
>
>
> I don't intend to go there again either if I can help it - but it is our
> capital city, and a place I loved to spend time in in the past. The

I liked it when I was a boy - it was happy and exciting. Now it just
seems dull and overcrowded. I have recently come to question the
function of a capital city. Now it seems like a tool of the social
engineers. As if to say, this is completely representative of British
life (it is quite the opposite), and this is how you should all live you
lives (no thanks).

> problem is it will all be coming to a town near us soon if they have
> their way. In fact it already has - there are many parts of Birmingham,
> for example, that I wouldn't care to visit at night (nor very much in
> the daytime!).
abelard
2018-04-05 10:06:40 UTC
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On Thu, 5 Apr 2018 11:00:27 +0100, "Dan S. MacAbre" <***@way.com>
wrote:


>I liked it when I was a boy - it was happy and exciting. Now it just
>seems dull and overcrowded. I have recently come to question the
>function of a capital city. Now it seems like a tool of the social
>engineers. As if to say, this is completely representative of British
>life (it is quite the opposite), and this is how you should all live you
>lives (no thanks).

when you are young and have little in your head...you seek
noise and crowds...

as you see more detail in the world you come to fabre's realisation
that the universe will have passed away before everything
can be said about the common flea...

thus there is plentiful stimulation in the wayside flowers in spring..

and so much to do that it will never end


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saracene
2018-04-05 10:15:34 UTC
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On Thursday, April 5, 2018 at 11:06:43 AM UTC+1, abelard wrote:


>
> as you see more detail in the world you come to fabre's realisation
> that the universe will have passed away before everything
> can be said about the common flea...
>
I read his Social Life in the Insect World. Have you ever had fleas? I caught them once from some slut of an American girl.
abelard
2018-04-05 10:21:55 UTC
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On Thu, 5 Apr 2018 03:15:34 -0700 (PDT), saracene <***@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Thursday, April 5, 2018 at 11:06:43 AM UTC+1, abelard wrote:

>> as you see more detail in the world you come to fabre's realisation
>> that the universe will have passed away before everything
>> can be said about the common flea...
>>
>I read his Social Life in the Insect World.

long long ago...
i studied ethology as an essential foundation part of my studies of
human behaviour...

> Have you ever had fleas? I caught them once from some slut of an American girl.

an experience that has evaded me...

i have managed clap, tric and herpes...my current squeeze once
had crabs and hep b...but that was in a previous life!


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saracene
2018-04-05 10:34:49 UTC
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On Thursday, April 5, 2018 at 11:21:59 AM UTC+1, abelard wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Apr 2018 03:15:34 -0700 (PDT), saracene <***@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Thursday, April 5, 2018 at 11:06:43 AM UTC+1, abelard wrote:
>
> >> as you see more detail in the world you come to fabre's realisation
> >> that the universe will have passed away before everything
> >> can be said about the common flea...
> >>
> >I read his Social Life in the Insect World.
>
> long long ago...
> i studied ethology as an essential foundation part of my studies of
> human behaviour...
>
> > Have you ever had fleas? I caught them once from some slut of an American girl.
>
> an experience that has evaded me...
>
> i have managed clap, tric and herpes...my current squeeze once
> had crabs and hep b...but that was in a previous life!
>
>
> --
me crabs once clap never, nor the others.
I'd never heard of tric. Nasty but curable.
https://www.cdc.gov/std/trichomonas/stdfact-trichomoniasis.htm
Herpes you must still have. Females be warned.
abelard
2018-04-05 10:43:00 UTC
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On Thu, 5 Apr 2018 03:34:49 -0700 (PDT), saracene <***@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Thursday, April 5, 2018 at 11:21:59 AM UTC+1, abelard wrote:
>> On Thu, 5 Apr 2018 03:15:34 -0700 (PDT), saracene <***@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >On Thursday, April 5, 2018 at 11:06:43 AM UTC+1, abelard wrote:
>>
>> >> as you see more detail in the world you come to fabre's realisation
>> >> that the universe will have passed away before everything
>> >> can be said about the common flea...
>> >>
>> >I read his Social Life in the Insect World.
>>
>> long long ago...
>> i studied ethology as an essential foundation part of my studies of
>> human behaviour...
>>
>> > Have you ever had fleas? I caught them once from some slut of an American girl.
>>
>> an experience that has evaded me...
>>
>> i have managed clap, tric and herpes...my current squeeze once
>> had crabs and hep b...but that was in a previous life!

>me crabs once clap never, nor the others.
>I'd never heard of tric. Nasty but curable.

very easily...but i really resented looking down the microscope
and seeing the little bastard grinning at me!!

>https://www.cdc.gov/std/trichomonas/stdfact-trichomoniasis.htm
>Herpes you must still have. Females be warned.

a large proportion of the population have it...

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Dan S. MacAbre
2018-04-05 10:38:03 UTC
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saracene wrote:
> On Thursday, April 5, 2018 at 11:06:43 AM UTC+1, abelard wrote:
>
>
>>
>> as you see more detail in the world you come to fabre's realisation
>> that the universe will have passed away before everything
>> can be said about the common flea...
>>
> I read his Social Life in the Insect World. Have you ever had fleas? I caught them once from some slut of an American girl.
>

A mate of mine years ago got his house infected with fleas. He had this
gorgeous girlfriend at the time, but her family were really scruffy and
untidy. Their house was almost in the Mr. Trebus league.
Dan S. MacAbre
2018-04-05 10:36:29 UTC
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abelard wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Apr 2018 11:00:27 +0100, "Dan S. MacAbre" <***@way.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>> I liked it when I was a boy - it was happy and exciting. Now it just
>> seems dull and overcrowded. I have recently come to question the
>> function of a capital city. Now it seems like a tool of the social
>> engineers. As if to say, this is completely representative of British
>> life (it is quite the opposite), and this is how you should all live you
>> lives (no thanks).
>
> when you are young and have little in your head...you seek
> noise and crowds...
>

It was nice to have a adult family around, I think. I always felt
protected. Westminster Abbey is a sort of favourite place of mine.
Being among all those dead Kings and Queens feels strange. Like the
Crypt of the Popes in St. Peter's (another favourite place). And the
Catacombs, although they've been 'depopulated' (or whatever the word is).

> as you see more detail in the world you come to fabre's realisation
> that the universe will have passed away before everything
> can be said about the common flea...
>
> thus there is plentiful stimulation in the wayside flowers in spring..
>

Yes, I like wild flowers. And birds.

> and so much to do that it will never end
>
saracene
2018-04-05 14:26:31 UTC
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On Thursday, April 5, 2018 at 11:36:31 AM UTC+1, Dan S. MacAbre wrote:
> abelard wrote:
> > On Thu, 5 Apr 2018 11:00:27 +0100, "Dan S. MacAbre" <***@way.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >> I liked it when I was a boy - it was happy and exciting. Now it just
> >> seems dull and overcrowded. I have recently come to question the
> >> function of a capital city. Now it seems like a tool of the social
> >> engineers. As if to say, this is completely representative of British
> >> life (it is quite the opposite), and this is how you should all live you
> >> lives (no thanks).
> >
> > when you are young and have little in your head...you seek
> > noise and crowds...
> >
>
> It was nice to have a adult family around, I think. I always felt
> protected. Westminster Abbey is a sort of favourite place of mine.

You have had to pay to go in for ages. Annoying.

>
> Being among all those dead Kings and Queens feels strange. Like the
> Crypt of the Popes in St. Peter's (another favourite place). And the
> Catacombs, although they've been 'depopulated' (or whatever the word is).
>
> > as you see more detail in the world you come to fabre's realisation
> > that the universe will have passed away before everything
> > can be said about the common flea...
> >
> > thus there is plentiful stimulation in the wayside flowers in spring..
> >
>
> Yes, I like wild flowers. And birds.
>
> > and so much to do that it will never end
> >
johnny-knowall
2018-04-05 15:14:28 UTC
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On 5 Apr 2018, saracene wrote
(in article<65744745-3791-4b16-b1f7-***@googlegroups.com>):

> On Thursday, April 5, 2018 at 11:36:31 AM UTC+1, Dan S. MacAbre wrote:
> > abelard wrote:
> > > On Thu, 5 Apr 2018 11:00:27 +0100, "Dan S. MacAbre" <***@way.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > I liked it when I was a boy - it was happy and exciting. Now it just
> > > > seems dull and overcrowded. I have recently come to question the
> > > > function of a capital city. Now it seems like a tool of the social
> > > > engineers. As if to say, this is completely representative of British
> > > > life (it is quite the opposite), and this is how you should all live you
> > > > lives (no thanks).
> > >
> > > when you are young and have little in your head...you seek
> > > noise and crowds...
> >
> > It was nice to have a adult family around, I think. I always felt
> > protected. Westminster Abbey is a sort of favourite place of mine.
>
> You have had to pay to go in for ages. Annoying.

There are some I like and some I don’t.

It is just a feeling I get.

I never liked York Minster or Ely Cathedral, but I do like Norwich, Salisbury
and Winchester.

Canterbury is ok, and I know Truro is relatively modern but it had some kind
of spiritual calmness that I couldn’t explain.

Bradford is just a church, but called a cathedral for reasons best known to
the locals. The anomaly is Bristol, where the cathedral is less spectacular
than St Mary Redcliffe just down the road.

I never liked Peterborough, and was too knackered after walking up to Lincoln
to appreciate anything other than the view.

I never went to Hereford or Lichfield despite having them recommended. There
is a nice one in Shrewsbury but I can’t remember if it counts as a
cathedral or not.

>
>
> >
> > Being among all those dead Kings and Queens feels strange. Like the
> > Crypt of the Popes in St. Peter's (another favourite place). And the
> > Catacombs, although they've been 'depopulated' (or whatever the word is).
> >
> > > as you see more detail in the world you come to fabre's realisation
> > > that the universe will have passed away before everything
> > > can be said about the common flea...
> > >
> > > thus there is plentiful stimulation in the wayside flowers in spring..
> >
> > Yes, I like wild flowers. And birds.
> >
> > > and so much to do that it will never end
saracene
2018-04-05 16:38:29 UTC
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On Thursday, April 5, 2018 at 4:14:29 PM UTC+1, johnny-knowall wrote:
> On 5 Apr 2018, saracene wrote
> (in article<65744745-3791-4b16-b1f7-***@googlegroups.com>):
>
> > On Thursday, April 5, 2018 at 11:36:31 AM UTC+1, Dan S. MacAbre wrote:
> > > abelard wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 5 Apr 2018 11:00:27 +0100, "Dan S. MacAbre" <***@way.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I liked it when I was a boy - it was happy and exciting. Now it just
> > > > > seems dull and overcrowded. I have recently come to question the
> > > > > function of a capital city. Now it seems like a tool of the social
> > > > > engineers. As if to say, this is completely representative of British
> > > > > life (it is quite the opposite), and this is how you should all live you
> > > > > lives (no thanks).
> > > >
> > > > when you are young and have little in your head...you seek
> > > > noise and crowds...
> > >
> > > It was nice to have a adult family around, I think. I always felt
> > > protected. Westminster Abbey is a sort of favourite place of mine.
> >
> > You have had to pay to go in for ages. Annoying.
>
> There are some I like and some I don’t.
>
> It is just a feeling I get.
>
> I never liked York Minster or Ely Cathedral, but I do like Norwich, Salisbury
> and Winchester.
>
> Canterbury is ok, and I know Truro is relatively modern but it had some kind
> of spiritual calmness that I couldn’t explain.
>
> Bradford is just a church, but called a cathedral for reasons best known to
> the locals. The anomaly is Bristol, where the cathedral is less spectacular
> than St Mary Redcliffe just down the road.
>
> I never liked Peterborough, and was too knackered after walking up to Lincoln
> to appreciate anything other than the view.
>
> I never went to Hereford or Lichfield despite having them recommended. There
> is a nice one in Shrewsbury but I can’t remember if it counts as a
> cathedral or not.
>
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Being among all those dead Kings and Queens feels strange. Like the
> > > Crypt of the Popes in St. Peter's (another favourite place). And the
> > > Catacombs, although they've been 'depopulated' (or whatever the word is).
> > >
> > > > as you see more detail in the world you come to fabre's realisation
> > > > that the universe will have passed away before everything
> > > > can be said about the common flea...
> > > >
> > > > thus there is plentiful stimulation in the wayside flowers in spring..
> > >
> > > Yes, I like wild flowers. And birds.
> > >
> > > > and so much to do that it will never end

I recently went to Beverley where the Minster is not a cathedral but better than many. There's also another fine church there. I've seen Lichfield and Herford relatively recently. I was impressed by the former. Hereford has the chaned library. In memory I can't separate it clearly from Worcester.

I don't know why you don't like York, Ely or Peterborough. Lincoln is very fine and original as is Wells. Gloucester has some interest. Chester I found disappopinting.

I should go back to Canterbury with a good guidebook. I didn't appreciate to the full. I've never seen Truro. I must have another look at Bristol.
Durham of coursre is magnificent, but Norman rather than gothic and it may not be to your taste.
Farmer Giles
2018-04-05 19:40:20 UTC
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On 05-Apr-18 5:38 PM, saracene wrote:
> On Thursday, April 5, 2018 at 4:14:29 PM UTC+1, johnny-knowall wrote:
>> On 5 Apr 2018, saracene wrote
>> (in article<65744745-3791-4b16-b1f7-***@googlegroups.com>):
>>
>>> On Thursday, April 5, 2018 at 11:36:31 AM UTC+1, Dan S. MacAbre wrote:
>>>> abelard wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 5 Apr 2018 11:00:27 +0100, "Dan S. MacAbre" <***@way.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I liked it when I was a boy - it was happy and exciting. Now it just
>>>>>> seems dull and overcrowded. I have recently come to question the
>>>>>> function of a capital city. Now it seems like a tool of the social
>>>>>> engineers. As if to say, this is completely representative of British
>>>>>> life (it is quite the opposite), and this is how you should all live you
>>>>>> lives (no thanks).
>>>>>
>>>>> when you are young and have little in your head...you seek
>>>>> noise and crowds...
>>>>
>>>> It was nice to have a adult family around, I think. I always felt
>>>> protected. Westminster Abbey is a sort of favourite place of mine.
>>>
>>> You have had to pay to go in for ages. Annoying.
>>
>> There are some I like and some I don’t.
>>
>> It is just a feeling I get.
>>
>> I never liked York Minster or Ely Cathedral, but I do like Norwich, Salisbury
>> and Winchester.
>>
>> Canterbury is ok, and I know Truro is relatively modern but it had some kind
>> of spiritual calmness that I couldn’t explain.
>>
>> Bradford is just a church, but called a cathedral for reasons best known to
>> the locals. The anomaly is Bristol, where the cathedral is less spectacular
>> than St Mary Redcliffe just down the road.
>>
>> I never liked Peterborough, and was too knackered after walking up to Lincoln
>> to appreciate anything other than the view.
>>
>> I never went to Hereford or Lichfield despite having them recommended. There
>> is a nice one in Shrewsbury but I can’t remember if it counts as a
>> cathedral or not.
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Being among all those dead Kings and Queens feels strange. Like the
>>>> Crypt of the Popes in St. Peter's (another favourite place). And the
>>>> Catacombs, although they've been 'depopulated' (or whatever the word is).
>>>>
>>>>> as you see more detail in the world you come to fabre's realisation
>>>>> that the universe will have passed away before everything
>>>>> can be said about the common flea...
>>>>>
>>>>> thus there is plentiful stimulation in the wayside flowers in spring..
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I like wild flowers. And birds.
>>>>
>>>>> and so much to do that it will never end
>
> I recently went to Beverley where the Minster is not a cathedral but better than many. There's also another fine church there. I've seen Lichfield and Herford relatively recently. I was impressed by the former. Hereford has the chaned library. In memory I can't separate it clearly from Worcester.

Hereford also has the Mappa Mundi. It is quite distinct from Worcester,
particularly for its setting. Worcester is magnificiently framed by the
River Severn. Hereford is quite close to River Wye, but doesn't have the
same outlook - it is impressive nevertheless. I lived near Lichfield for
a number of years, saw the outside of the cathedral many times, but I
regret I have never been inside. A shameful lapse, which I must rectify
one day.


>
> I don't know why you don't like York, Ely or Peterborough. Lincoln is very fine and original as is Wells. Gloucester has some interest. Chester I found disappopinting.
>
> I should go back to Canterbury with a good guidebook. I didn't appreciate to the full. I've never seen Truro. I must have another look at Bristol.
> Durham of coursre is magnificent, but Norman rather than gothic and it may not be to your taste.

I was in Durham Cathedral for a degree ceremony about three years ago,
truly magnificent. My wife and I went to Wells Cathedral in March,
certainly in the first rank of English cathedrals.
saracene
2018-04-24 18:22:29 UTC
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On Thursday, April 5, 2018 at 5:38:30 PM UTC+1, saracene wrote:


>
> I should go back to Canterbury with a good guidebook. I didn't appreciate to the full.

Wnt there today having read up on French architect William of Sens and the details and originality of its construction in Christopher Wilson's highly informative The Gothic Cathedral. Canterbury was the starting point for all subsequest Gothic architecture in England, which went its own way ignoring subsequent developments in France.
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johnny-knowall
2018-04-05 09:52:27 UTC
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On 5 Apr 2018, Dan S. MacAbre wrote
(in article <pa4p3b$33m$***@dont-email.me>):

> Farmer Giles wrote:
> > Listened to a 'debate' on Radio 5 yesterday - for as long as I could
> > stomach it, anyway, which wasn't too long.
> >
> > It was hosted by that odious little shit Nicky Campbell,

I would say “odious little shit” is too generous a description for him.

> > and was about
> > the recent killings in London. The, carefully vetted, callers followed
> > the usual BBC line - not enough police in evidence, too much
> > stop-and-search, etc, etc.
> >
> > In fact everything but that which is glaringly obvious to anyone who is
> > not blind or stupid - or working for the Quisling outfit called the BBC.
> > One chap did, however, get through who clearly hadn't read the script
> > handing out by the vetters - he was black, so that's probably why.
> >
> > He quickly took the wind out of the sails of the Campbell creep by
> > straightaway saying that the problem was within the black community -
> > 'we have to realise that we have a problem in the black community'. He
> > then went on to say that generations of black youths had grown up
> > without a father figure in their homes and that they had succumbed to
> > gang culture, drugs, etc.
> >
> > When Campbell had recovered his composure he started to make some feeble
> > noises along the lines of - 'but what about those from middle-class
> > white homes who do similar things?' 'What about in Glasgow and Dundee,
> > where drug violence is a major problem - and it's all white?'. He even
> > went on to make a statement along the lines of, if white people were
> > doing this we probably wouldn't hear about it - really?
> >
> > If white people were committing one tenth of the crimes of the black
> > gangs in London then you can bet that the BBC, and the little shits like
> > campbell that they employ, would make sure that we heard very little else.
> >
> > Not only do we have to pay for this treachery and deceit, we have to pay
> > through the nose for it - £9000 per week for Campbell alone.
> >
> > Close it down.

Good idea; but then who would MI5 use as a propaganda mouthpiece?

>
> Maybe the plan is to destroy London slowly? TBH, I no longer care -
> I'll never be going there again.

I have similar views, although I occasionally take my chances on the
Hammersmith and City line when visiting relatives by train.I would not stray
too far from the tourist routes. Kew Gardens and Barnes WWT centre are about
my limit at the moment.

> I think they ought to wall it off, and
> turn it into some sort of penal colony. Like 'Escape From New York'.
> But in London.

Sounds like a plan....
Dan S. MacAbre
2018-04-05 10:05:56 UTC
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johnny-knowall wrote:
> On 5 Apr 2018, Dan S. MacAbre wrote
> (in article <pa4p3b$33m$***@dont-email.me>):
>
>> Farmer Giles wrote:
>>> Listened to a 'debate' on Radio 5 yesterday - for as long as I could
>>> stomach it, anyway, which wasn't too long.
>>>
>>> It was hosted by that odious little shit Nicky Campbell,
>
> I would say “odious little shit” is too generous a description for him.
>
>>> and was about
>>> the recent killings in London. The, carefully vetted, callers followed
>>> the usual BBC line - not enough police in evidence, too much
>>> stop-and-search, etc, etc.
>>>
>>> In fact everything but that which is glaringly obvious to anyone who is
>>> not blind or stupid - or working for the Quisling outfit called the BBC.
>>> One chap did, however, get through who clearly hadn't read the script
>>> handing out by the vetters - he was black, so that's probably why.
>>>
>>> He quickly took the wind out of the sails of the Campbell creep by
>>> straightaway saying that the problem was within the black community -
>>> 'we have to realise that we have a problem in the black community'. He
>>> then went on to say that generations of black youths had grown up
>>> without a father figure in their homes and that they had succumbed to
>>> gang culture, drugs, etc.
>>>
>>> When Campbell had recovered his composure he started to make some feeble
>>> noises along the lines of - 'but what about those from middle-class
>>> white homes who do similar things?' 'What about in Glasgow and Dundee,
>>> where drug violence is a major problem - and it's all white?'. He even
>>> went on to make a statement along the lines of, if white people were
>>> doing this we probably wouldn't hear about it - really?
>>>
>>> If white people were committing one tenth of the crimes of the black
>>> gangs in London then you can bet that the BBC, and the little shits like
>>> campbell that they employ, would make sure that we heard very little else.
>>>
>>> Not only do we have to pay for this treachery and deceit, we have to pay
>>> through the nose for it - £9000 per week for Campbell alone.
>>>
>>> Close it down.
>
> Good idea; but then who would MI5 use as a propaganda mouthpiece?
>

The other stations - they all seem to be exactly the same. I think it's
something to do with Ofcom, ultimately. But at least people wouldn't
have to pay for it just for the privilege of watching TV. I gave up TV
about 8 years ago, and I've no idea why people keep handing over good
money just to be mentally conditioned into accepting the kind of crap
that we now have to endure.

>>
>> Maybe the plan is to destroy London slowly? TBH, I no longer care -
>> I'll never be going there again.
>
> I have similar views, although I occasionally take my chances on the
> Hammersmith and City line when visiting relatives by train.I would not stray
> too far from the tourist routes. Kew Gardens and Barnes WWT centre are about
> my limit at the moment.
>
>> I think they ought to wall it off, and
>> turn it into some sort of penal colony. Like 'Escape From New York'.
>> But in London.
>
> Sounds like a plan....
>
>
saracene
2018-04-05 10:24:19 UTC
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On Thursday, April 5, 2018 at 8:21:03 AM UTC+1, Farmer Giles wrote:


>
> If white people were committing one tenth of the crimes of the black
> gangs in London then you can bet that the BBC, and the little shits like
> campbell that they employ, would make sure that we heard very little else.
>
The little cunt on the left is sort of white.

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BurfordTJustice
2018-04-05 11:47:06 UTC
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"Farmer Giles" <***@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:LsGdnbEW8-***@brightview.co.uk...
: Listened to a 'debate' on Radio 5 yesterday - for as long as I could
: stomach it, anyway, which wasn't too long.
:
: It was hosted by that odious little shit Nicky Campbell, and was about
: the recent killings in London. The, carefully vetted, callers followed
: the usual BBC line - not enough police in evidence, too much
: stop-and-search, etc, etc.
:
: In fact everything but that which is glaringly obvious to anyone who is
: not blind or stupid - or working for the Quisling outfit called the BBC.
: One chap did, however, get through who clearly hadn't read the script
: handing out by the vetters - he was black, so that's probably why.
:
: He quickly took the wind out of the sails of the Campbell creep by
: straightaway saying that the problem was within the black community -
: 'we have to realise that we have a problem in the black community'. He
: then went on to say that generations of black youths had grown up
: without a father figure in their homes and that they had succumbed to
: gang culture, drugs, etc.
:
: When Campbell had recovered his composure he started to make some feeble
: noises along the lines of - 'but what about those from middle-class
: white homes who do similar things?' 'What about in Glasgow and Dundee,
: where drug violence is a major problem - and it's all white?'. He even
: went on to make a statement along the lines of, if white people were
: doing this we probably wouldn't hear about it - really?
:
: If white people were committing one tenth of the crimes of the black
: gangs in London then you can bet that the BBC, and the little shits like
: campbell that they employ, would make sure that we heard very little else.
:
: Not only do we have to pay for this treachery and deceit, we have to pay
: through the nose for it - £9000 per week for Campbell alone.
:
: Close it down.
:
Phi
2018-04-05 19:47:02 UTC
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+ACI-johnny-knowall+ACI- +ADw-ssos+AEA-bungay.com+AD4- wrote in message
news:0001HW.207674D4001C670870000F53B2CF+AEA-news.giganews.com...
+AD4- On 5 Apr 2018, saracene wrote
+AD4- (in article+ADw-65744745-3791-4b16-b1f7-08471aaa197a+AEA-googlegroups.com+AD4-):
+AD4-
+AD4APg- On Thursday, April 5, 2018 at 11:36:31 AM UTC, Dan S. MacAbre wrote:
+AD4APg- +AD4- abelard wrote:
+AD4APg- +AD4- +AD4- On Thu, 5 Apr 2018 11:00:27 +010-, +ACI-Dan S. MacAbre+ACI- +ADw-no+AEA-way.com+AD4-
+AD4APg- +AD4- +AD4- wrote:
+AD4APg- +AD4- +AD4-
+AD4APg- +AD4- +AD4-
+AD4APg- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- I liked it when I was a boy - it was happy and exciting. Now it
+AD4APg- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- just
+AD4APg- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- seems dull and overcrowded. I have recently come to question the
+AD4APg- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- function of a capital city. Now it seems like a tool of the social
+AD4APg- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- engineers. As if to say, this is completely representative of
+AD4APg- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- British
+AD4APg- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- life (it is quite the opposite), and this is how you should all
+AD4APg- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- live you
+AD4APg- +AD4- +AD4- +AD4- lives (no thanks).
+AD4APg- +AD4- +AD4-
+AD4APg- +AD4- +AD4- when you are young and have little in your head...you seek
+AD4APg- +AD4- +AD4- noise and crowds...
+AD4APg- +AD4-
+AD4APg- +AD4- It was nice to have a adult family around, I think. I always felt
+AD4APg- +AD4- protected. Westminster Abbey is a sort of favourite place of mine.
+AD4APg-
+AD4APg- You have had to pay to go in for ages. Annoying.
+AD4-
+AD4- There are some I like and some I don+AOIAgACZ-t.
+AD4-
+AD4- It is just a feeling I get.
+AD4-
+AD4- I never liked York Minster or Ely Cathedral, but I do like Norwich,
+AD4- Salisbury
+AD4- and Winchester.
+AD4-
+AD4- Canterbury is ok, and I know Truro is relatively modern but it had some
+AD4- kind
+AD4- of spiritual calmness that I couldn+AOIAgACZ-t explain.
+AD4-
+AD4- Bradford is just a church, but called a cathedral for reasons best known
+AD4- to
+AD4- the locals. The anomaly is Bristol, where the cathedral is less
+AD4- spectacular
+AD4- than St Mary Redcliffe just down the road.
+AD4-
+AD4- I never liked Peterborough, and was too knackered after walking up to
+AD4- Lincoln
+AD4- to appreciate anything other than the view.
+AD4-
+AD4- I never went to Hereford or Lichfield despite having them recommended.
+AD4- There
+AD4- is a nice one in Shrewsbury but I can+AOIAgACZ-t remember if it counts as a
+AD4- cathedral or not.
+AD4-
+AD4APg-
+AD4APg-
+AD4APg- +AD4-
+AD4APg- +AD4- Being among all those dead Kings and Queens feels strange. Like the
+AD4APg- +AD4- Crypt of the Popes in St. Peter's (another favourite place). And the
+AD4APg- +AD4- Catacombs, although they've been 'depopulated' (or whatever the word
+AD4APg- +AD4- is).
+AD4APg- +AD4-
+AD4APg- +AD4- +AD4- as you see more detail in the world you come to fabre's realisation
+AD4APg- +AD4- +AD4- that the universe will have passed away before everything
+AD4APg- +AD4- +AD4- can be said about the common flea...
+AD4APg- +AD4- +AD4-
+AD4APg- +AD4- +AD4- thus there is plentiful stimulation in the wayside flowers in
+AD4APg- +AD4- +AD4- spring..
+AD4APg- +AD4-
+AD4APg- +AD4- Yes, I like wild flowers. And birds.
+AD4APg- +AD4-
+AD4APg- +AD4- +AD4- and so much to do that it will never end
+AD4-

I like Wells Cathedral and the Bishops Palace.
RH156RH
2018-04-07 14:57:55 UTC
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On Thursday, April 5, 2018 at 8:21:03 AM UTC+1, Farmer Giles wrote:
> Listened to a 'debate' on Radio 5 yesterday - for as long as I could
> stomach it, anyway, which wasn't too long.
>
> It was hosted by that odious little shit Nicky Campbell, and was about
> the recent killings in London. The, carefully vetted, callers followed
> the usual BBC line - not enough police in evidence, too much
> stop-and-search, etc, etc.
>
> In fact everything but that which is glaringly obvious to anyone who is
> not blind or stupid - or working for the Quisling outfit called the BBC.
> One chap did, however, get through who clearly hadn't read the script
> handing out by the vetters - he was black, so that's probably why.
>
> He quickly took the wind out of the sails of the Campbell creep by
> straightaway saying that the problem was within the black community -
> 'we have to realise that we have a problem in the black community'. He
> then went on to say that generations of black youths had grown up
> without a father figure in their homes and that they had succumbed to
> gang culture, drugs, etc.
>
> When Campbell had recovered his composure he started to make some feeble
> noises along the lines of - 'but what about those from middle-class
> white homes who do similar things?' 'What about in Glasgow and Dundee,
> where drug violence is a major problem - and it's all white?'. He even
> went on to make a statement along the lines of, if white people were
> doing this we probably wouldn't hear about it - really?
>
> If white people were committing one tenth of the crimes of the black
> gangs in London then you can bet that the BBC, and the little shits like
> campbell that they employ, would make sure that we heard very little else.
>
> Not only do we have to pay for this treachery and deceit, we have to pay
> through the nose for it - £9000 per week for Campbell alone.
>
> Close it down.
RH156RH
2018-04-07 15:00:12 UTC
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On Thursday, April 5, 2018 at 8:21:03 AM UTC+1, Farmer Giles wrote:
> Listened to a 'debate' on Radio 5 yesterday - for as long as I could
> stomach it, anyway, which wasn't too long.
>
> It was hosted by that odious little shit Nicky Campbell, and was about
> the recent killings in London. The, carefully vetted, callers followed
> the usual BBC line - not enough police in evidence, too much
> stop-and-search, etc, etc.
>
> In fact everything but that which is glaringly obvious to anyone who is
> not blind or stupid - or working for the Quisling outfit called the BBC.
> One chap did, however, get through who clearly hadn't read the script
> handing out by the vetters - he was black, so that's probably why.
>
> He quickly took the wind out of the sails of the Campbell creep by
> straightaway saying that the problem was within the black community -
> 'we have to realise that we have a problem in the black community'. He
> then went on to say that generations of black youths had grown up
> without a father figure in their homes and that they had succumbed to
> gang culture, drugs, etc.
>
> When Campbell had recovered his composure he started to make some feeble
> noises along the lines of - 'but what about those from middle-class
> white homes who do similar things?' 'What about in Glasgow and Dundee,
> where drug violence is a major problem - and it's all white?'. He even
> went on to make a statement along the lines of, if white people were
> doing this we probably wouldn't hear about it - really?
>
> If white people were committing one tenth of the crimes of the black
> gangs in London then you can bet that the BBC, and the little shits like
> campbell that they employ, would make sure that we heard very little else.
>
> Not only do we have to pay for this treachery and deceit, we have to pay
> through the nose for it - £9000 per week for Campbell alone.
>
> Close it down.

The Daily Quislingraph excelled itself by showing a photo supposedly of someone on a social media site dressed as a would be gangster. The person was white. see

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/04/06/inside-secret-instagram-groups-fuelling-gang-violence-murder/

RH
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