s***@gmail.com
2019-11-29 00:54:43 UTC
reduplicate = duplicate twice = quadruple.
Discussion:
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Joseph C. Fineman
2019-11-29 22:49:28 UTC
"To make double; repeat, redouble." -- OED
Redouble. Hmph.
The first illiteracy goes back to late Latin; the second, to French.
This use of "re-" as a mere intensive seems indeed to be anomalous; the
OED does not notice it, either under those words or s.v. -re.
Redouble. Hmph.
The first illiteracy goes back to late Latin; the second, to French.
This use of "re-" as a mere intensive seems indeed to be anomalous; the
OED does not notice it, either under those words or s.v. -re.
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David Kleinecke
2019-11-30 03:55:03 UTC
Post by Joseph C. Fineman
"To make double; repeat, redouble." -- OED
Redouble. Hmph.
The first illiteracy goes back to late Latin; the second, to French.
This use of "re-" as a mere intensive seems indeed to be anomalous; the
OED does not notice it, either under those words or s.v. -re.
--
||: One does not sign peace treaties with friends. :||
Refried beans are not fried twice (or more times)."To make double; repeat, redouble." -- OED
Redouble. Hmph.
The first illiteracy goes back to late Latin; the second, to French.
This use of "re-" as a mere intensive seems indeed to be anomalous; the
OED does not notice it, either under those words or s.v. -re.
--
||: One does not sign peace treaties with friends. :||
Jerry Friedman
2019-11-30 20:40:37 UTC
Post by David Kleinecke
...Post by Joseph C. Fineman
"To make double; repeat, redouble." -- OED
Redouble. Hmph.
The first illiteracy goes back to late Latin; the second, to French.
This use of "re-" as a mere intensive seems indeed to be anomalous; the
OED does not notice it, either under those words or s.v. -re.
"To make double; repeat, redouble." -- OED
Redouble. Hmph.
The first illiteracy goes back to late Latin; the second, to French.
This use of "re-" as a mere intensive seems indeed to be anomalous; the
OED does not notice it, either under those words or s.v. -re.
Also refrigerate, research, relax, represent, recognize, and others.
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Quinn C
2019-12-01 02:11:27 UTC
Post by Jerry Friedman
Also refrigerate, research, relax, represent, recognize, and others.
I always believed "research" means you should double-check yourPost by David Kleinecke
...Post by Joseph C. Fineman
"To make double; repeat, redouble." -- OED
Redouble. Hmph.
The first illiteracy goes back to late Latin; the second, to French.
This use of "re-" as a mere intensive seems indeed to be anomalous; the
OED does not notice it, either under those words or s.v. -re.
"To make double; repeat, redouble." -- OED
Redouble. Hmph.
The first illiteracy goes back to late Latin; the second, to French.
This use of "re-" as a mere intensive seems indeed to be anomalous; the
OED does not notice it, either under those words or s.v. -re.
Also refrigerate, research, relax, represent, recognize, and others.
findings.
--
Quinn C
My pronouns are they/them
(or other gender-neutral ones)
Quinn C
My pronouns are they/them
(or other gender-neutral ones)
J. J. Lodder
2019-12-02 09:56:02 UTC
Post by Quinn C
findings.
It just means to investigate thoroughly (from medieval French)Post by Jerry Friedman
Also refrigerate, research, relax, represent, recognize, and others.
I always believed "research" means you should double-check yourPost by David Kleinecke
...Post by Joseph C. Fineman
"To make double; repeat, redouble." -- OED
Redouble. Hmph.
The first illiteracy goes back to late Latin; the second, to French.
This use of "re-" as a mere intensive seems indeed to be anomalous; the
OED does not notice it, either under those words or s.v. -re.
"To make double; repeat, redouble." -- OED
Redouble. Hmph.
The first illiteracy goes back to late Latin; the second, to French.
This use of "re-" as a mere intensive seems indeed to be anomalous; the
OED does not notice it, either under those words or s.v. -re.
Also refrigerate, research, relax, represent, recognize, and others.
findings.
and it predates all modern ideas of science,
Jan
Lewis
2019-11-30 21:17:47 UTC
Post by David Kleinecke
Refried beans are cooked twice, the second time is fried. It is fasterPost by Joseph C. Fineman
"To make double; repeat, redouble." -- OED
Redouble. Hmph.
The first illiteracy goes back to late Latin; the second, to French.
This use of "re-" as a mere intensive seems indeed to be anomalous; the
OED does not notice it, either under those words or s.v. -re.
--
||: One does not sign peace treaties with friends. :||
Refried beans are not fried twice (or more times)."To make double; repeat, redouble." -- OED
Redouble. Hmph.
The first illiteracy goes back to late Latin; the second, to French.
This use of "re-" as a mere intensive seems indeed to be anomalous; the
OED does not notice it, either under those words or s.v. -re.
--
||: One does not sign peace treaties with friends. :||
than saying "fried beans that were previously cooked"
--
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"He sees the good in every one. No one would ever take him for a
clergyman." -- Lucy Honeychurch
RH Draney
2019-11-30 22:38:43 UTC
Post by Lewis
Refried beans are cooked twice, the second time is fried. It is faster
than saying "fried beans that were previously cooked"
I'm going to go have some twice-baked zweiback biscuits....rRefried beans are cooked twice, the second time is fried. It is faster
than saying "fried beans that were previously cooked"
Lewis
2019-12-01 07:07:59 UTC
Post by RH Draney
A bit redundant if you speak German (It is German?) But those are bakedPost by Lewis
Refried beans are cooked twice, the second time is fried. It is faster
than saying "fried beans that were previously cooked"
I'm going to go have some twice-baked zweiback biscuits....rRefried beans are cooked twice, the second time is fried. It is faster
than saying "fried beans that were previously cooked"
twice, aren't they?
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Mickey and Mallory know the difference between right and wrong; the
just don't give a damn.
b***@shaw.ca
2019-12-01 07:28:22 UTC
Post by Lewis
twice, aren't they?
They are. And they appear very similar to Dutch "beschuit", usuallyPost by RH Draney
A bit redundant if you speak German (It is German?) But those are bakedPost by Lewis
Refried beans are cooked twice, the second time is fried. It is faster
than saying "fried beans that were previously cooked"
I'm going to go have some twice-baked zweiback biscuits....rRefried beans are cooked twice, the second time is fried. It is faster
than saying "fried beans that were previously cooked"
twice, aren't they?
called egg rusks in English, which are also baked twice.
bill
Ken Blake
2019-12-01 19:01:35 UTC
Post by b***@shaw.ca
called egg rusks in English, which are also baked twice.
But very different from twice-cooked pork ( 回锅肉 ).Post by Lewis
twice, aren't they?
They are. And they appear very similar to Dutch "beschuit", usuallyPost by RH Draney
A bit redundant if you speak German (It is German?) But those are bakedPost by Lewis
Refried beans are cooked twice, the second time is fried. It is faster
than saying "fried beans that were previously cooked"
I'm going to go have some twice-baked zweiback biscuits....rRefried beans are cooked twice, the second time is fried. It is faster
than saying "fried beans that were previously cooked"
twice, aren't they?
called egg rusks in English, which are also baked twice.
--
Ken
Ken
Ken Blake
2019-12-01 19:18:47 UTC
Post by Ken Blake
The main reason I sent that message was to see if the Chinese charactersPost by b***@shaw.ca
called egg rusks in English, which are also baked twice.
But very different from twice-cooked pork ( 回锅肉 ).Post by Lewis
twice, aren't they?
They are. And they appear very similar to Dutch "beschuit", usuallyPost by RH Draney
A bit redundant if you speak German (It is German?) But those are bakedPost by Lewis
Refried beans are cooked twice, the second time is fried. It is faster
than saying "fried beans that were previously cooked"
I'm going to go have some twice-baked zweiback biscuits....rRefried beans are cooked twice, the second time is fried. It is faster
than saying "fried beans that were previously cooked"
twice, aren't they?
called egg rusks in English, which are also baked twice.
were kept in my message. They were. I switched from Agent to Thunderbird
a few weeks ago, and although there are some things I preferred about
Agent, Thunderbird is much better in this regard, so I'm glad I switched.
--
Ken
Ken
b***@aol.com
2019-12-02 03:26:50 UTC
Post by b***@shaw.ca
Or even "tridundant", as "biscuit" itself is derived from Latin "bis"Post by Lewis
twice, aren't they?
Post by RH Draney
A bit redundant if you speak German (It is German?) But those are bakedPost by Lewis
Refried beans are cooked twice, the second time is fried. It is faster
than saying "fried beans that were previously cooked"
I'm going to go have some twice-baked zweiback biscuits....rRefried beans are cooked twice, the second time is fried. It is faster
than saying "fried beans that were previously cooked"
twice, aren't they?
("a second time" or "twice") + "coctus" ("cooked").
Post by b***@shaw.ca
They are. And they appear very similar to Dutch "beschuit", usually
called egg rusks in English, which are also baked twice.
bill
They are. And they appear very similar to Dutch "beschuit", usually
called egg rusks in English, which are also baked twice.
bill
Peter Moylan
2019-12-02 03:35:23 UTC
Post by b***@aol.com
Or even "tridundant", as "biscuit" itself is derived from Latin
"bis" ("a second time" or "twice") + "coctus" ("cooked").
A few people seem to have missed the point that Ron deliberately gavePost by Lewis
baked twice, aren't they?
Post by RH Draney
A bit redundant if you speak German (It is German?) But those areIn message
Refried beans are cooked twice, the second time is fried. It
is faster than saying "fried beans that were previously
cooked"
I'm going to go have some twice-baked zweiback biscuits....rRefried beans are cooked twice, the second time is fried. It
is faster than saying "fried beans that were previously
cooked"
baked twice, aren't they?
"bis" ("a second time" or "twice") + "coctus" ("cooked").
three terms that said the same thing.
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Newcastle, NSW, Australia
Peter Moylan http://www.pmoylan.org
Newcastle, NSW, Australia
Katy Jennison
2019-12-02 08:37:53 UTC
Post by Peter Moylan
three terms that said the same thing.
I've been observing the same, with growing incredulity. Where's aPost by b***@aol.com
Or even "tridundant", as "biscuit" itself is derived from Latin
"bis" ("a second time" or "twice") + "coctus" ("cooked").
A few people seem to have missed the point that Ron deliberately gavePost by Lewis
A bit redundant if you speak German (It is German?) But those are
baked twice, aren't they?
A bit redundant if you speak German (It is German?) But those are
baked twice, aren't they?
"bis" ("a second time" or "twice") + "coctus" ("cooked").
three terms that said the same thing.
Whoosh when you need one? I'm off up the Torpenhow.
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Katy Jennison
Katy Jennison
b***@aol.com
2019-12-02 16:31:15 UTC
Post by Katy Jennison
Wasn't the origin of "biscuit" easy to miss for English-speakers with noPost by Peter Moylan
three terms that said the same thing.
I've been observing the same, with growing incredulity.Post by b***@aol.com
Or even "tridundant", as "biscuit" itself is derived from Latin
"bis" ("a second time" or "twice") + "coctus" ("cooked").
A few people seem to have missed the point that Ron deliberately gavePost by Lewis
A bit redundant if you speak German (It is German?) But those are
baked twice, aren't they?
A bit redundant if you speak German (It is German?) But those are
baked twice, aren't they?
"bis" ("a second time" or "twice") + "coctus" ("cooked").
three terms that said the same thing.
knowledge of Latin or French, though?
Katy Jennison
2019-12-02 17:07:57 UTC
Post by b***@aol.com
knowledge of Latin or French, though?
But not for participants in this group, shirley.Post by Katy Jennison
Wasn't the origin of "biscuit" easy to miss for English-speakers with noPost by Peter Moylan
three terms that said the same thing.
I've been observing the same, with growing incredulity.Post by b***@aol.com
Or even "tridundant", as "biscuit" itself is derived from Latin
"bis" ("a second time" or "twice") + "coctus" ("cooked").
A few people seem to have missed the point that Ron deliberately gavePost by Lewis
A bit redundant if you speak German (It is German?) But those are
baked twice, aren't they?
A bit redundant if you speak German (It is German?) But those are
baked twice, aren't they?
"bis" ("a second time" or "twice") + "coctus" ("cooked").
three terms that said the same thing.
knowledge of Latin or French, though?
--
Katy Jennison
Katy Jennison
b***@aol.com
2019-12-02 17:49:30 UTC
Post by Katy Jennison
Do you mean they all know Latin or French, or they couldn't miss itPost by b***@aol.com
knowledge of Latin or French, though?
But not for participants in this group, shirley.Post by Katy Jennison
Wasn't the origin of "biscuit" easy to miss for English-speakers with noPost by Peter Moylan
three terms that said the same thing.
I've been observing the same, with growing incredulity.Post by b***@aol.com
Or even "tridundant", as "biscuit" itself is derived from Latin
"bis" ("a second time" or "twice") + "coctus" ("cooked").
A few people seem to have missed the point that Ron deliberately gavePost by Lewis
A bit redundant if you speak German (It is German?) But those are
baked twice, aren't they?
A bit redundant if you speak German (It is German?) But those are
baked twice, aren't they?
"bis" ("a second time" or "twice") + "coctus" ("cooked").
three terms that said the same thing.
knowledge of Latin or French, though?
anyway, owing to some sort of (innate) acumen for languages?
Katy Jennison
2019-12-02 19:33:03 UTC
Post by b***@aol.com
anyway, owing to some sort of (innate) acumen for languages?
No, I simply suppose that almost everyone in this group already knows it.Post by Katy Jennison
Do you mean they all know Latin or French, or they couldn't miss itPost by b***@aol.com
knowledge of Latin or French, though?
But not for participants in this group, shirley.Post by Katy Jennison
Wasn't the origin of "biscuit" easy to miss for English-speakers with noPost by Peter Moylan
three terms that said the same thing.
I've been observing the same, with growing incredulity.Post by b***@aol.com
Or even "tridundant", as "biscuit" itself is derived from Latin
"bis" ("a second time" or "twice") + "coctus" ("cooked").
A few people seem to have missed the point that Ron deliberately gavePost by Lewis
A bit redundant if you speak German (It is German?) But those are
baked twice, aren't they?
A bit redundant if you speak German (It is German?) But those are
baked twice, aren't they?
"bis" ("a second time" or "twice") + "coctus" ("cooked").
three terms that said the same thing.
knowledge of Latin or French, though?
anyway, owing to some sort of (innate) acumen for languages?
--
Katy Jennison
Katy Jennison
Ken Blake
2019-12-02 20:09:43 UTC
Post by Katy Jennison
I'm glad you said "almost." I didn't, but not because I know no FrenchPost by b***@aol.com
anyway, owing to some sort of (innate) acumen for languages?
No, I simply suppose that almost everyone in this group already knows it.Post by Katy Jennison
Do you mean they all know Latin or French, or they couldn't miss itPost by b***@aol.com
knowledge of Latin or French, though?
But not for participants in this group, shirley.Post by Katy Jennison
Wasn't the origin of "biscuit" easy to miss for English-speakers with noPost by Peter Moylan
three terms that said the same thing.
I've been observing the same, with growing incredulity.Post by b***@aol.com
Or even "tridundant", as "biscuit" itself is derived from Latin
"bis" ("a second time" or "twice") + "coctus" ("cooked").
A few people seem to have missed the point that Ron deliberately gavePost by Lewis
A bit redundant if you speak German (It is German?) But those are
baked twice, aren't they?
A bit redundant if you speak German (It is German?) But those are
baked twice, aren't they?
"bis" ("a second time" or "twice") + "coctus" ("cooked").
three terms that said the same thing.
knowledge of Latin or French, though?
anyway, owing to some sort of (innate) acumen for languages?
or Latin. It was because I never bothered to even think about where the
name came from. If I had considered it, I would have quickly realized
the answer.
--
Ken
Ken
Sam Plusnet
2019-12-03 00:42:40 UTC
Post by Ken Blake
or Latin. It was because I never bothered to even think about where the
name came from. If I had considered it, I would have quickly realized
the answer.
I assumed that many people would know this, if only because most of usPost by Katy Jennison
I'm glad you said "almost." I didn't, but not because I know no FrenchPost by b***@aol.com
anyway, owing to some sort of (innate) acumen for languages?
No, I simply suppose that almost everyone in this group already knows it.Post by Katy Jennison
Do you mean they all know Latin or French, or they couldn't miss itPost by b***@aol.com
knowledge of Latin or French, though?
But not for participants in this group, shirley.Post by Katy Jennison
Wasn't the origin of "biscuit" easy to miss for English-speakers with noPost by Peter Moylan
three terms that said the same thing.
I've been observing the same, with growing incredulity.Post by b***@aol.com
Or even "tridundant", as "biscuit" itself is derived from Latin
"bis" ("a second time" or "twice") + "coctus" ("cooked").
A few people seem to have missed the point that Ron deliberately gavePost by Lewis
A bit redundant if you speak German (It is German?) But those are
baked twice, aren't they?
A bit redundant if you speak German (It is German?) But those are
baked twice, aren't they?
"bis" ("a second time" or "twice") + "coctus" ("cooked").
three terms that said the same thing.
knowledge of Latin or French, though?
anyway, owing to some sort of (innate) acumen for languages?
or Latin. It was because I never bothered to even think about where the
name came from. If I had considered it, I would have quickly realized
the answer.
have run into the sort of person who just love to pass on all sorts of
'fascinating' facts.
"Not a lot of people know that." To misquote Michael Caine.
--
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Snidely
2019-12-06 10:14:38 UTC
Post by Katy Jennison
I'm glad you said "almost." I didn't, but not because I know no French orPost by b***@aol.com
anyway, owing to some sort of (innate) acumen for languages?
No, I simply suppose that almost everyone in this group already knows it.Post by Katy Jennison
Do you mean they all know Latin or French, or they couldn't miss itPost by b***@aol.com
knowledge of Latin or French, though?
But not for participants in this group, shirley.Post by Katy Jennison
Wasn't the origin of "biscuit" easy to miss for English-speakers with noPost by Peter Moylan
three terms that said the same thing.
I've been observing the same, with growing incredulity.Post by b***@aol.com
Or even "tridundant", as "biscuit" itself is derived from Latin
"bis" ("a second time" or "twice") + "coctus" ("cooked").
A few people seem to have missed the point that Ron deliberately gavePost by Lewis
A bit redundant if you speak German (It is German?) But those are
baked twice, aren't they?
A bit redundant if you speak German (It is German?) But those are
baked twice, aren't they?
"bis" ("a second time" or "twice") + "coctus" ("cooked").
three terms that said the same thing.
knowledge of Latin or French, though?
anyway, owing to some sort of (innate) acumen for languages?
Latin. It was because I never bothered to even think about where the name
came from. If I had considered it, I would have quickly realized the answer.
switching to German afterwards. At the rate I'm learning Latin, I
should be able to track the hovercraft on the desk within 30 or 40
years.
/dps
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" Very much so, and I'd recommend the haggis wontons."
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"That's a good sort of hectic, innit?"
" Very much so, and I'd recommend the haggis wontons."
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Peter Moylan
2019-12-03 02:07:28 UTC
Post by Katy Jennison
I'm pretty certain that the fact that "biscuit" means "twice cooked" hasPost by b***@aol.com
it anyway, owing to some sort of (innate) acumen for languages?
No, I simply suppose that almost everyone in this group already knows it.Post by Katy Jennison
Do you mean they all know Latin or French, or they couldn't missLe lundi 2 décembre 2019 09:37:57 UTC+1, Katy Jennison a écrit
English-speakers with no knowledge of Latin or French, though?
But not for participants in this group, shirley.Post by Katy Jennison
Wasn't the origin of "biscuit" easy to miss forPost by Peter Moylan
deliberately gave three terms that said the same thing.
I've been observing the same, with growing incredulity.Le dimanche 1 décembre 2019 08:28:24 UTC+1,
Latin "bis" ("a second time" or "twice") + "coctus"
("cooked").
A few people seem to have missed the point that RonOn Saturday, November 30, 2019 at 11:08:03 PM UTC-8,
Or even "tridundant", as "biscuit" itself is derived fromDraney
A bit redundant if you speak German (It is German?)
But those are baked twice, aren't they?
A bit redundant if you speak German (It is German?)
But those are baked twice, aren't they?
Latin "bis" ("a second time" or "twice") + "coctus"
("cooked").
deliberately gave three terms that said the same thing.
English-speakers with no knowledge of Latin or French, though?
it anyway, owing to some sort of (innate) acumen for languages?
been discussed in AUE in the not-too-distant past.
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b***@aol.com
2019-12-03 17:49:46 UTC
Post by Katy Jennison
I see, thanks. Other posters seem to prove you right, but I must say IPost by b***@aol.com
anyway, owing to some sort of (innate) acumen for languages?
No, I simply suppose that almost everyone in this group already knows it.Post by Katy Jennison
Do you mean they all know Latin or French, or they couldn't miss itPost by b***@aol.com
knowledge of Latin or French, though?
But not for participants in this group, shirley.Post by Katy Jennison
Wasn't the origin of "biscuit" easy to miss for English-speakers with noPost by Peter Moylan
three terms that said the same thing.
I've been observing the same, with growing incredulity.Post by b***@aol.com
Or even "tridundant", as "biscuit" itself is derived from Latin
"bis" ("a second time" or "twice") + "coctus" ("cooked").
A few people seem to have missed the point that Ron deliberately gavePost by Lewis
A bit redundant if you speak German (It is German?) But those are
baked twice, aren't they?
A bit redundant if you speak German (It is German?) But those are
baked twice, aren't they?
"bis" ("a second time" or "twice") + "coctus" ("cooked").
three terms that said the same thing.
knowledge of Latin or French, though?
anyway, owing to some sort of (innate) acumen for languages?
wouldn't have thought so, as it's not so well-known in France though
"bis"and "cuit" ("cooked" or "baked") both exist separately in French.
But "biscuit" is such a common word that few people think to make the connection.
Dingbat
2019-12-02 04:24:32 UTC
Post by b***@aol.com
("a second time" or "twice") + "coctus" ("cooked").
"bis" is a so-called "adverbial numeral" from Latin:Post by b***@shaw.ca
Or even "tridundant", as "biscuit" itself is derived from Latin "bis"Post by Lewis
baked twice, aren't they?
Post by RH Draney
A bit redundant if you speak German (It is German?) But those arePost by Lewis
Refried beans are cooked twice, the second time is fried. It is
faster than saying "fried beans that were previously cooked"
I'm going to go have some twice-baked zweiback biscuits....rRefried beans are cooked twice, the second time is fried. It is
faster than saying "fried beans that were previously cooked"
baked twice, aren't they?
("a second time" or "twice") + "coctus" ("cooked").
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_numerals
An example of "bis" in modern usage is the ITU-T modem standard from
the late 20th century, V.32bis, the 2nd iteration of V.32.
https://www.google.com/search?q=bis+second+latin
The Latin adverbial numeral for a 3rd iteration would be ter.
Post by b***@aol.com
Post by b***@shaw.ca
They are. And they appear very similar to Dutch "beschuit", usually
called egg rusks in English, which are also baked twice.
bill
They are. And they appear very similar to Dutch "beschuit", usually
called egg rusks in English, which are also baked twice.
bill
Dingbat
2019-12-03 07:43:06 UTC
Post by b***@aol.com
Or even "tridundant",
... as "biscuit" itself is derived from Latin "bis"
("a second time" or "twice") + "coctus" ("cooked").
This observation takes the biscuit!Post by Lewis
baked twice, aren't they?
Post by RH Draney
A bit redundant if you speak German (It is German?) But those arePost by Lewis
Refried beans are cooked twice, the second time is fried. It is
faster than saying "fried beans that were previously cooked"
I'm going to go have some twice-baked zweiback biscuits....rRefried beans are cooked twice, the second time is fried. It is
faster than saying "fried beans that were previously cooked"
baked twice, aren't they?
... as "biscuit" itself is derived from Latin "bis"
("a second time" or "twice") + "coctus" ("cooked").
b***@aol.com
2019-12-03 17:52:53 UTC
Post by Dingbat
But making it was no piece of cake.Post by b***@aol.com
Or even "tridundant",
... as "biscuit" itself is derived from Latin "bis"
("a second time" or "twice") + "coctus" ("cooked").
This observation takes the biscuit!Post by Lewis
baked twice, aren't they?
Post by RH Draney
A bit redundant if you speak German (It is German?) But those arePost by Lewis
Refried beans are cooked twice, the second time is fried. It is
faster than saying "fried beans that were previously cooked"
I'm going to go have some twice-baked zweiback biscuits....rRefried beans are cooked twice, the second time is fried. It is
faster than saying "fried beans that were previously cooked"
baked twice, aren't they?
... as "biscuit" itself is derived from Latin "bis"
("a second time" or "twice") + "coctus" ("cooked").
Sam Plusnet
2019-12-03 18:20:21 UTC
Post by Dingbat
Not half-baked then?Post by b***@aol.com
Or even "tridundant",
... as "biscuit" itself is derived from Latin "bis"
("a second time" or "twice") + "coctus" ("cooked").
This observation takes the biscuit!Post by Lewis
baked twice, aren't they?
Post by RH Draney
A bit redundant if you speak German (It is German?) But those arePost by Lewis
Refried beans are cooked twice, the second time is fried. It is
faster than saying "fried beans that were previously cooked"
I'm going to go have some twice-baked zweiback biscuits....rRefried beans are cooked twice, the second time is fried. It is
faster than saying "fried beans that were previously cooked"
baked twice, aren't they?
... as "biscuit" itself is derived from Latin "bis"
("a second time" or "twice") + "coctus" ("cooked").
--
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Kerr-Mudd,John
2019-12-03 19:42:56 UTC
Post by Sam Plusnet
Well, that was a tart remark. I hope this one doesn't come across asPost by Dingbat
Not half-baked then?Post by b***@aol.com
Or even "tridundant",
... as "biscuit" itself is derived from Latin "bis"
("a second time" or "twice") + "coctus" ("cooked").
This observation takes the biscuit!Post by Lewis
baked twice, aren't they?
Post by RH Draney
A bit redundant if you speak German (It is German?) But those areIn message
Refried beans are cooked twice, the second time is fried. It is
faster than saying "fried beans that were previously cooked"
I'm going to go have some twice-baked zweiback biscuits....rRefried beans are cooked twice, the second time is fried. It is
faster than saying "fried beans that were previously cooked"
baked twice, aren't they?
... as "biscuit" itself is derived from Latin "bis"
("a second time" or "twice") + "coctus" ("cooked").
creepe.
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Mack A. Damia
2019-12-03 16:38:54 UTC
Post by b***@shaw.ca
called egg rusks in English, which are also baked twice.
When I flew from Philadelphia to San Diego a few years ago, I wasPost by Lewis
twice, aren't they?
They are. And they appear very similar to Dutch "beschuit", usuallyPost by RH Draney
A bit redundant if you speak German (It is German?) But those are bakedPost by Lewis
Refried beans are cooked twice, the second time is fried. It is faster
than saying "fried beans that were previously cooked"
I'm going to go have some twice-baked zweiback biscuits....rRefried beans are cooked twice, the second time is fried. It is faster
than saying "fried beans that were previously cooked"
twice, aren't they?
called egg rusks in English, which are also baked twice.
given a small packet of biscuits. They were delicious and among the
best cookies that I have ever eaten. I researched them and found them
for sale in San Diego - but our Walmart in Ensenada had them a few
weeks ago, too. Problem there is that they may never be reordered;
it's a Mexican thing.
Lotus "Biscoff", product of Belgium.
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Lovely with a cuppa tea or coffee.
Peter Moylan
2019-12-01 10:04:23 UTC
Post by Lewis
twice, aren't they?
Equally redundant if you speak French and know the meaning of "bis cuit".Post by RH Draney
A bit redundant if you speak German (It is German?) But those are bakedPost by Lewis
Refried beans are cooked twice, the second time is fried. It is faster
than saying "fried beans that were previously cooked"
I'm going to go have some twice-baked zweiback biscuits....rRefried beans are cooked twice, the second time is fried. It is faster
than saying "fried beans that were previously cooked"
twice, aren't they?
So, overall, redundant in three languages.
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Quinn C
2019-12-01 16:47:30 UTC
Post by Lewis
Zwieback. "Zwie" is an older/regional form of German "zwei", which isPost by RH Draney
Post by Lewis
Refried beans are cooked twice, the second time is fried. It is faster
than saying "fried beans that were previously cooked"
I'm going to go have some twice-baked zweiback biscuits....rRefried beans are cooked twice, the second time is fried. It is faster
than saying "fried beans that were previously cooked"
frozen into this compound. They sound different in German.
Post by Lewis
A bit redundant if you speak German (It is German?) But those are baked
twice, aren't they?
Used to be. Modern industrially produced ones aren't.A bit redundant if you speak German (It is German?) But those are baked
twice, aren't they?
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Quinn C
My pronouns are they/them
(or other gender-neutral ones)
Quinn C
My pronouns are they/them
(or other gender-neutral ones)
Dingbat
2019-12-02 02:34:53 UTC
Post by Quinn C
Zwieback. "Zwie" is an older/regional form of German "zwei", which
is frozen into this compound. They sound different in German.
In Gebäck, a German word for biscotti, bäck has an umlaut. That is,Zwieback. "Zwie" is an older/regional form of German "zwei", which
is frozen into this compound. They sound different in German.
the word is Gebäck, not Geback. The biscuit you mention is Zwieback,
not Zwiebäck. Are back and bäck two variations of the same thing?
Quinn C
2019-12-02 13:25:22 UTC
Post by Dingbat
"Gebäck" has a much wider meaning than "biscotti", it's pastry.Post by Quinn C
Zwieback. "Zwie" is an older/regional form of German "zwei", which
is frozen into this compound. They sound different in German.
In Gebäck, a German word for biscotti,Zwieback. "Zwie" is an older/regional form of German "zwei", which
is frozen into this compound. They sound different in German.
Post by Dingbat
bäck has an umlaut. That is,
the word is Gebäck, not Geback. The biscuit you mention is Zwieback,
not Zwiebäck. Are back and bäck two variations of the same thing?
Yes, those are just in grammatically-induced variation. The personbäck has an umlaut. That is,
the word is Gebäck, not Geback. The biscuit you mention is Zwieback,
not Zwiebäck. Are back and bäck two variations of the same thing?
making Gebäck aka Backwaren is the Bäcker. An umlaut process like the
one that gave English things like foot-feet.
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Quinn C
My pronouns are they/them
(or other gender-neutral ones)
Quinn C
My pronouns are they/them
(or other gender-neutral ones)
s***@my-deja.com
2019-12-08 00:26:56 UTC
Post by Lewis
Refried beans are cooked twice, the second time is fried. It is faster
than saying "fried beans that were previously cooked"
It is worth consulting Wikipedia regarding refried beans.Refried beans are cooked twice, the second time is fried. It is faster
than saying "fried beans that were previously cooked"
Jerry Friedman
2019-12-08 01:47:53 UTC
Post by s***@my-deja.com
Especially now that I've corrected the following erroneous sentence:Post by Lewis
Refried beans are cooked twice, the second time is fried. It is faster
than saying "fried beans that were previously cooked"
It is worth consulting Wikipedia regarding refried beans.Refried beans are cooked twice, the second time is fried. It is faster
than saying "fried beans that were previously cooked"
'In this dish, after being boiled and then mashed into a paste, the
beans are fried or baked, though as they're fried only once, the term
"refried" is misleading.[2]'
The article also says that /refritos/ means "well-fried" or "thoroughly
fried", which may be true.
But I'm interested in the syntax of your sentence, which contains a
construction I also use. Does "It" have an antecedent? If so, what?
Or should "worth" be understood as "worth while"?
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Richard Heathfield
2019-12-08 02:42:07 UTC
Post by Jerry Friedman
beans are fried or baked, though as they're fried only once, the term
"refried" is misleading.[2]'
The article also says that /refritos/ means "well-fried" or "thoroughly
fried", which may be true.
But I'm interested in the syntax of your sentence, which contains a
construction I also use. Does "It" have an antecedent? If so, what? Or
should "worth" be understood as "worth while"?
But how much, precisely[1], is while worth?Post by s***@my-deja.com
'In this dish, after being boiled and then mashed into a paste, thePost by Lewis
Refried beans are cooked twice, the second time is fried. It is faster
than saying "fried beans that were previously cooked"
It is worth consulting Wikipedia regarding refried beans.Refried beans are cooked twice, the second time is fried. It is faster
than saying "fried beans that were previously cooked"
beans are fried or baked, though as they're fried only once, the term
"refried" is misleading.[2]'
The article also says that /refritos/ means "well-fried" or "thoroughly
fried", which may be true.
But I'm interested in the syntax of your sentence, which contains a
construction I also use. Does "It" have an antecedent? If so, what? Or
should "worth" be understood as "worth while"?
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Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
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[1] Or perhaps just approximately?
Richard Heathfield
Email: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk
"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999
[1] Or perhaps just approximately?
Jerry Friedman
2019-12-08 03:11:30 UTC
Post by Jerry Friedman
beans are fried or baked, though as they're fried only once, the term
"refried" is misleading.[2]'
Post by s***@my-deja.com
'In this dish, after being boiled and then mashed into a paste, thePost by Lewis
Refried beans are cooked twice, the second time is fried. It is faster
than saying "fried beans that were previously cooked"
It is worth consulting Wikipedia regarding refried beans.Refried beans are cooked twice, the second time is fried. It is faster
than saying "fried beans that were previously cooked"
beans are fried or baked, though as they're fried only once, the term
"refried" is misleading.[2]'
Sorry, that's the corrected version.
--
Jerry Friedman
Jerry Friedman
Jerry Friedman
2019-12-08 03:12:32 UTC
Post by Richard Heathfield
Approximately the trouble.Post by Jerry Friedman
beans are fried or baked, though as they're fried only once, the term
"refried" is misleading.[2]'
The article also says that /refritos/ means "well-fried" or
"thoroughly fried", which may be true.
But I'm interested in the syntax of your sentence, which contains a
construction I also use. Does "It" have an antecedent? If so, what?
Or should "worth" be understood as "worth while"?
But how much, precisely[1], is while worth?Post by s***@my-deja.com
'In this dish, after being boiled and then mashed into a paste, thePost by Lewis
Refried beans are cooked twice, the second time is fried. It is faster
than saying "fried beans that were previously cooked"
It is worth consulting Wikipedia regarding refried beans.Refried beans are cooked twice, the second time is fried. It is faster
than saying "fried beans that were previously cooked"
beans are fried or baked, though as they're fried only once, the term
"refried" is misleading.[2]'
The article also says that /refritos/ means "well-fried" or
"thoroughly fried", which may be true.
But I'm interested in the syntax of your sentence, which contains a
construction I also use. Does "It" have an antecedent? If so, what?
Or should "worth" be understood as "worth while"?
And no, I don't know why I attached my clarification to your reply
instead of to mine, where it belonged.
--
Jerry Friedman
Jerry Friedman
Paul Carmichael
2019-12-08 13:22:32 UTC
The article also says that /refritos/ means "well-fried" or "thoroughly fried", which may
be true.
Re is used as an intensifier in Spanish. But not always, as "recortar" is trim.be true.
It's as confusing as the ón replacing a in feminine words. Like "portón" is a big door. A
normal door is "puerta". But although "hormiga" is ant, "hormigón" is concrete, not a big ant.
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Peter T. Daniels
2019-12-08 14:00:12 UTC
Post by Paul Carmichael
It's as confusing as the ón replacing a in feminine words. Like "portón" is a big door. A
normal door is "puerta". But although "hormiga" is ant, "hormigón" is concrete, not a big ant.
or Formica?The article also says that /refritos/ means "well-fried" or "thoroughly fried", which may
be true.
Re is used as an intensifier in Spanish. But not always, as "recortar" is trim.be true.
It's as confusing as the ón replacing a in feminine words. Like "portón" is a big door. A
normal door is "puerta". But although "hormiga" is ant, "hormigón" is concrete, not a big ant.
Lewis
2019-12-08 11:29:28 UTC
Post by s***@my-deja.com
Whatever for? I grew up making refritos, I know how to prepare them.Post by Lewis
Refried beans are cooked twice, the second time is fried. It is faster
than saying "fried beans that were previously cooked"
It is worth consulting Wikipedia regarding refried beans.Refried beans are cooked twice, the second time is fried. It is faster
than saying "fried beans that were previously cooked"
Cook the beans (overcook the beans, in fact), mash them and then add,
perhaps, minced onions, a bit of garlic, and a touch of wormwood, and
fry them in lard. It's not complicated (My job was mashing them).
Avoid, at all costs, vegetarian refried beans, the lard is critical to
the flavor.
If you use black beans, add a white nearly flavorless cheese* crumbled
on top when you server them.
* I don't recall the specific name, we rarely did this, preferring our
refritos made from kidney or pinto beans, but it was common to have
black beans in restaurants.
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Jerry Friedman
2019-12-08 14:49:51 UTC
Post by Lewis
Cook the beans (overcook the beans, in fact), mash them and then add,
perhaps, minced onions, a bit of garlic, and a touch of wormwood, and
fry them in lard. It's not complicated (My job was mashing them).
...Post by s***@my-deja.com
Whatever for? I grew up making refritos, I know how to prepare them.Post by Lewis
Refried beans are cooked twice, the second time is fried. It is faster
than saying "fried beans that were previously cooked"
It is worth consulting Wikipedia regarding refried beans.Refried beans are cooked twice, the second time is fried. It is faster
than saying "fried beans that were previously cooked"
Cook the beans (overcook the beans, in fact), mash them and then add,
perhaps, minced onions, a bit of garlic, and a touch of wormwood, and
fry them in lard. It's not complicated (My job was mashing them).
Sounds good, but you mean wormseed (epazote), not wormwood (/Artemisia
absinthium/, which got an exaggeration reputation for toxicity as an
ingredient of absinthe).
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Jerry Friedman
Jerry Friedman
Lewis
2019-12-08 19:20:21 UTC
Post by Jerry Friedman
Sounds good, but you mean wormseed (epazote), not wormwood (/Artemisia
absinthium/, which got an exaggeration reputation for toxicity as an
ingredient of absinthe).
Yes, I will blame autocorrect.Post by Lewis
Cook the beans (overcook the beans, in fact), mash them and then add,
perhaps, minced onions, a bit of garlic, and a touch of wormwood, and
fry them in lard. It's not complicated (My job was mashing them).
...Post by s***@my-deja.com
Whatever for? I grew up making refritos, I know how to prepare them.Post by Lewis
Refried beans are cooked twice, the second time is fried. It is faster
than saying "fried beans that were previously cooked"
It is worth consulting Wikipedia regarding refried beans.Refried beans are cooked twice, the second time is fried. It is faster
than saying "fried beans that were previously cooked"
Cook the beans (overcook the beans, in fact), mash them and then add,
perhaps, minced onions, a bit of garlic, and a touch of wormwood, and
fry them in lard. It's not complicated (My job was mashing them).
Sounds good, but you mean wormseed (epazote), not wormwood (/Artemisia
absinthium/, which got an exaggeration reputation for toxicity as an
ingredient of absinthe).
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Jerry Friedman
2019-12-08 19:49:38 UTC
Post by Lewis
Now who do I blame for "exaggeration reputation"?Post by Jerry Friedman
Sounds good, but you mean wormseed (epazote), not wormwood (/Artemisia
absinthium/, which got an exaggeration reputation for toxicity as an
ingredient of absinthe).
Yes, I will blame autocorrect.Post by Lewis
Cook the beans (overcook the beans, in fact), mash them and then add,
perhaps, minced onions, a bit of garlic, and a touch of wormwood, and
fry them in lard. It's not complicated (My job was mashing them).
...Post by s***@my-deja.com
Whatever for? I grew up making refritos, I know how to prepare them.Post by Lewis
Refried beans are cooked twice, the second time is fried. It is faster
than saying "fried beans that were previously cooked"
It is worth consulting Wikipedia regarding refried beans.Refried beans are cooked twice, the second time is fried. It is faster
than saying "fried beans that were previously cooked"
Cook the beans (overcook the beans, in fact), mash them and then add,
perhaps, minced onions, a bit of garlic, and a touch of wormwood, and
fry them in lard. It's not complicated (My job was mashing them).
Sounds good, but you mean wormseed (epazote), not wormwood (/Artemisia
absinthium/, which got an exaggeration reputation for toxicity as an
ingredient of absinthe).
--
Jerry Friedman
Jerry Friedman
Ken Blake
2019-12-08 17:35:40 UTC
Post by Lewis
Cook the beans (overcook the beans, in fact), mash them and then add,
perhaps, minced onions, a bit of garlic, and a touch of wormwood, and
fry them in lard. It's not complicated (My job was mashing them).
Avoid, at all costs, vegetarian refried beans, the lard is critical to
the flavor.
If you use black beans, add a white nearly flavorless cheese* crumbled
on top when you server them.
* I don't recall the specific name,
Cotija?Post by s***@my-deja.com
Whatever for? I grew up making refritos, I know how to prepare them.Post by Lewis
Refried beans are cooked twice, the second time is fried. It is faster
than saying "fried beans that were previously cooked"
It is worth consulting Wikipedia regarding refried beans.Refried beans are cooked twice, the second time is fried. It is faster
than saying "fried beans that were previously cooked"
Cook the beans (overcook the beans, in fact), mash them and then add,
perhaps, minced onions, a bit of garlic, and a touch of wormwood, and
fry them in lard. It's not complicated (My job was mashing them).
Avoid, at all costs, vegetarian refried beans, the lard is critical to
the flavor.
If you use black beans, add a white nearly flavorless cheese* crumbled
on top when you server them.
* I don't recall the specific name,
Post by Lewis
we rarely did this, preferring our
refritos made from kidney or pinto beans, but it was common to have
black beans in restaurants.
we rarely did this, preferring our
refritos made from kidney or pinto beans, but it was common to have
black beans in restaurants.
--
Ken
Ken
s***@gmail.com
2019-11-30 15:48:53 UTC
Post by Joseph C. Fineman
"To make double; repeat, redouble." -- OED
Redouble. Hmph.
The first illiteracy goes back to late Latin; the second, to French.
This use of "re-" as a mere intensive seems indeed to be anomalous; the
OED does not notice it, either under those words or s.v. -re.
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In Bridge, "redouble" = "double again"."To make double; repeat, redouble." -- OED
Redouble. Hmph.
The first illiteracy goes back to late Latin; the second, to French.
This use of "re-" as a mere intensive seems indeed to be anomalous; the
OED does not notice it, either under those words or s.v. -re.
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Athel Cornish-Bowden
2019-12-08 11:47:16 UTC
When this first came up I was sure that I'd first met reduplication in
the context of Greek grammar, but I didn't manage to confirm it, so I
held my peace. However, now I've found it, and yes, the perfect was
formed by reduplication of the first syllable of the present, for
example γραφ- to γεγραφ–. What that means, of course, is that if
"reduplicate" is an illiterate way of saying "double" (which it isn't,
of course) it's one introduced a long time ago.
the context of Greek grammar, but I didn't manage to confirm it, so I
held my peace. However, now I've found it, and yes, the perfect was
formed by reduplication of the first syllable of the present, for
example γραφ- to γεγραφ–. What that means, of course, is that if
"reduplicate" is an illiterate way of saying "double" (which it isn't,
of course) it's one introduced a long time ago.
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athel
athel
Spains Harden
2019-11-30 15:37:23 UTC
Of course. In the same way that "reversing backwards" is immediately
understood to mean "going forward".
understood to mean "going forward".
Lewis
2019-11-30 21:16:25 UTC
One of my early jobs involved doing backups (onto 9-Track tapes). When I
had to run a second backup for some reason, that was a reduplication of
the data that had already been duplicated.
had to run a second backup for some reason, that was a reduplication of
the data that had already been duplicated.
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