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Hard day at work...
Charles
2005-06-22 18:44:30 UTC
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So, hey, jaw didn't break - there was enough bone to just cut the tooth
out. Thrilling, no? I'm still feeling pretty sketchy, but, hey, it's only
been 4 hours. I wanted to be loopy and not out and, well, they say that I
was loopy! I was heard singing songs and telling jokes... Still very very
spacey. And no percocet - they gave me endocet...
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Neil
2005-06-22 18:53:44 UTC
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Post by Charles
And no percocet - they gave me endocet...
That's basically Tylenol with Codeine right? Is it working... or maybe you
should a few more hours and then answer.
Charles
2005-06-22 23:04:10 UTC
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Post by Neil
Post by Charles
And no percocet - they gave me endocet...
That's basically Tylenol with Codeine right? Is it working... or
maybe you should a few more hours and then answer.
Looks like it's the same thing as perc. Anyway, I took one, waited an hour
then said my little prayer to the porcelain god. I don't believe that I'll
be repeating the experiment.
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Heidi
2005-06-22 23:30:57 UTC
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Post by Charles
Looks like it's the same thing as perc. Anyway, I took one, waited an hour
then said my little prayer to the porcelain god. I don't believe that I'll
be repeating the experiment.
Are you sure that was the drug? I did the same thing after my wisdom teeth
came out, but it was because I swallowed blood, and then drank milk when I
got home.....gross.....
Charles
2005-06-22 23:39:08 UTC
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Post by Heidi
Post by Charles
Looks like it's the same thing as perc. Anyway, I took one, waited
an hour then said my little prayer to the porcelain god. I don't
believe that I'll be repeating the experiment.
Are you sure that was the drug? I did the same thing after my wisdom
teeth came out, but it was because I swallowed blood, and then drank
milk when I got home.....gross.....
It's a moot point, really, since _I_ don't need the stuff. I'm doing fine
right now and I'm on, well, a fat lot of nothing.
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Heidi
2005-06-22 23:48:55 UTC
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Post by Charles
It's a moot point, really, since _I_ don't need the stuff. I'm doing fine
right now and I'm on, well, a fat lot of nothing.
OKEYDOKEY, so how's that novocaine? I have to say, the day after mine I
went all day without taking anything, as time goes on, I want to take it all
the time, I went the whole day at work with just ibuprofen, and my whole jaw
is just throbbing, got the ice bag on it now and a half a perc in my tummy.
Ow, fucking dry sockets HURT.
Charles
2005-06-22 23:52:27 UTC
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Post by Heidi
Ow, fucking dry sockets HURT.
One reason why it'd be nice if these would just stop bleeding, you know?
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Heidi
2005-06-22 23:59:39 UTC
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Post by Charles
Post by Heidi
Ow, fucking dry sockets HURT.
One reason why it'd be nice if these would just stop bleeding, you know?
Clamp down and bite for 45 minutes at a time. It'll stop the bleeding and
make your jaw hurt like hell.
Charles
2005-06-23 00:26:35 UTC
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Post by Heidi
Post by Charles
Post by Heidi
Ow, fucking dry sockets HURT.
One reason why it'd be nice if these would just stop bleeding, you know?
Clamp down and bite for 45 minutes at a time. It'll stop the bleeding and
make your jaw hurt like hell.
NO IT WON'T. Dude, I've been clamping for an hour and a half. No pain at
all. Still, it was weird (gross) poking at the spot where formerly I had a
tooth... Poking with a finger on the other side of my cheek, of course.
But gross.
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Heidi
2005-06-23 00:46:26 UTC
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Post by Charles
NO IT WON'T. Dude, I've been clamping for an hour and a half. No pain at
all. Still, it was weird (gross) poking at the spot where formerly I had a
tooth... Poking with a finger on the other side of my cheek, of course.
But gross.
Is it just oozing or flowing? Maybe you should try the tea bag, or call them
before they go to bed...did they leave you a number?
indigo
2005-06-23 13:31:38 UTC
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Post by Heidi
Post by Charles
Post by Heidi
Ow, fucking dry sockets HURT.
One reason why it'd be nice if these would just stop bleeding, you know?
Clamp down and bite for 45 minutes at a time. It'll stop the bleeding
and make your jaw hurt like hell.
You mean with a rolled up gauze pad, I assume.......
Spamvireslayer
2005-06-23 13:33:49 UTC
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You mean with a rolled up gauze pad, I assume.......
Well yes obviously, wet gauze or a warm wet tea bag. Hmmm, Charles hasn't surfaced
yet.....
indigo
2005-06-23 13:30:52 UTC
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Heidi wrote:
Ow, fucking dry sockets HURT.

What do Craftsman tools have to do with it?
Frog Prince
2005-06-23 14:58:51 UTC
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Heidi wrote:
Ow, fucking dry sockets HURT.

That's a sign you're becoming an 'old' woman (D&R)
Spamvireslayer
2005-06-23 15:17:26 UTC
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Ow, fucking dry sockets HURT.
That's a sign you're becoming an 'old' woman (D&R)
Not *that* socket, smartass.........
indigo
2005-06-23 13:28:49 UTC
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Post by Charles
Looks like it's the same thing as perc. Anyway, I took one, waited
an hour then said my little prayer to the porcelain god. I don't
believe that I'll be repeating the experiment.
Weird. Friend of mine has the same problem -- codiene makes her puke. So now
you *really* don't have an excuse for keeping those things around the house!
Give! ;-)
Frog Prince
2005-06-23 14:56:59 UTC
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"indigo" <***@spamcop.net> wrote in message news:d9edeh$nr0$***@news.spamcop.net...
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| Charles wrote:
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| > Looks like it's the same thing as perc. Anyway, I took one, waited
| > an hour then said my little prayer to the porcelain god. I don't
| > believe that I'll be repeating the experiment.
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| Weird. Friend of mine has the same problem -- codiene makes her puke. So
now
| you *really* don't have an excuse for keeping those things around the
house!
| Give! ;-)

Likely lucky she pukes as that's an indication a reaction to the drug. My
wife reacts but does not puke. It was touch and go at the ER until the docs
figured out the problem (Don't know why but I'm luckily carried ALL her
meds with us when dashed out the door for the ER)
Charles
2005-06-23 15:36:01 UTC
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Give!
My my my... It all just sounds like show - I still havent seen that email
yet! Anyway, you can come and get 'em - they're just sitting on the
counter!
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indigo
2005-06-23 16:08:42 UTC
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Post by Charles
Give!
My my my... It all just sounds like show - I still havent seen that
email yet! Anyway, you can come and get 'em - they're just sitting
on the counter!
I thought you were just toying with me, you did mention worrying about
getting into trouble or something like that......
D-LO
2005-06-22 19:00:48 UTC
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Post by Charles
I was heard singing songs and telling jokes...
Just like every other day at the office, non?

Glad to hear it went well, hope you don't have too much after-pain. I've
only had dental surgery once (wisdom teeth) and I remember lots of pain,
and lots of darvon...they don't give that anymore, tho, as it's a pretty
strong narcotic.

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Charles
2005-06-22 23:05:12 UTC
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Post by D-LO
Post by Charles
I was heard singing songs and telling jokes...
Just like every other day at the office, non?
Well, yes, but it wasn't my office this time!
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Glad to hear it went well, hope you don't have too much after-pain. I've
only had dental surgery once (wisdom teeth) and I remember lots of pain,
and lots of darvon...they don't give that anymore, tho, as it's a pretty
strong narcotic.
I'm doing quite fine with tylenol but I suppose I should be taking
ibuprofen for the analgesic effect...
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indigo
2005-06-22 19:07:44 UTC
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Post by Charles
So, hey, jaw didn't break - there was enough bone to just cut the
tooth out. Thrilling, no? I'm still feeling pretty sketchy, but,
hey, it's only been 4 hours. I wanted to be loopy and not out and,
well, they say that I was loopy! I was heard singing songs and
telling jokes...
How could you be talking and singing with your jaw pried wide open?

Still very very spacey. And no percocet - they
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gave me endocet...
Their mine! Mine, I tell you! Heidi had claims to percs, not endocet! Want
my shipping address? ;-)
Spamvireslayer
2005-06-22 19:25:26 UTC
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Post by indigo
Their mine! Mine, I tell you! Heidi had claims to percs, not endocet! Want
my shipping address? ;-)
Don't be greedy, SHARE! I want to try something new!
indigo
2005-06-22 19:41:53 UTC
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Post by Spamvireslayer
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Their mine! Mine, I tell you! Heidi had claims to percs, not
endocet! Want my shipping address? ;-)
Don't be greedy, SHARE! I want to try something new!
Maybe. If you're real nice to me. My neck is bugging me, my chiropractor did
a minor adjust to me last week and it has aggravated my neck pain. Dammit,
she wasn't supposed to do any cervical adjustments yet, and we both forgot
about the ban.
Spamvireslayer
2005-06-22 19:54:27 UTC
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Maybe. If you're real nice to me. My neck is bugging me, my chiropractor did
a minor adjust to me last week and it has aggravated my neck pain. Dammit,
she wasn't supposed to do any cervical adjustments yet, and we both forgot
about the ban.
I'm shocked that your doctors will allow any such thing, ever, after what you've gone
through.......
indigo
2005-06-22 20:31:01 UTC
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Maybe. If you're real nice to me. My neck is bugging me, my
chiropractor did a minor adjust to me last week and it has
aggravated my neck pain. Dammit, she wasn't supposed to do any
cervical adjustments yet, and we both forgot about the ban.
I'm shocked that your doctors will allow any such thing, ever, after
what you've gone through.......
You actually don't think I'm going to tell him, do you?!? I know I didn't
break the fusion, the pain is in the muscles, not the spine. It was fully
fused in 3 months, and I'm at six months now. Besides, I got that titanium
plate holding everything together. I don't think she could break the fusion
even if she tried.
Spamvireslayer
2005-06-22 20:39:39 UTC
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You actually don't think I'm going to tell him, do you?!? I know I didn't
break the fusion, the pain is in the muscles, not the spine. It was fully
fused in 3 months, and I'm at six months now. Besides, I got that titanium
plate holding everything together. I don't think she could break the fusion
even if she tried.
I wouldn't tell him unless you wanted an ass kicking - why would you even risk
screwing up your neck now? You can get massage for the muscles, you don't need to
jerk your spine around. Crikey!
indigo
2005-06-22 20:59:44 UTC
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Post by Spamvireslayer
I wouldn't tell him unless you wanted an ass kicking - why would you
even risk screwing up your neck now?
Hey, I'm going to play basketball this fall if he lets me (that's how the
disk got ruptured in the first place, some asshole nearly pulled my left arm
out of it's socket, and I'm positive this disk was already partially
herniated from heavy weightlifting I was doing in the preceding months) --
I'm not going to give up activities I really enjoy unless they are truly
dangerous to my neck (like using the weight machines in the gym that
compress the spinal cord). I *have* given up diving for ground balls in
softball though......but in reality, just using the neck as an excuse not to
get dirty and get cuts all over my legs and arms like I used to (lots of
little rocks on our fields).

You can get massage for the
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muscles, you don't need to jerk your spine around. Crikey!
No, not really.......I've had a mid-back recurring problem for many years
(different problem from my lumbar disk problem), my thoracic vertabrae get
twisted out of place all the time and cause some pretty bad pain in the
muscles between the bottoms of my shoulder blades (the rhomboids?). She
puts'em back into place once a month (I can hear them pop when she shoves
them back where they belong).
JohnL
2005-06-22 20:47:26 UTC
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Post by indigo
Besides, I got that titanium
plate holding everything together
Hint, titanium can break.
My SO had one of the screws in her spine break from the first surgery.
She had slipped and fell agaiin at work, which broke the screw and
seperated the fusion also.
indigo
2005-06-22 21:06:02 UTC
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Post by JohnL
Post by indigo
Besides, I got that titanium
plate holding everything together
Hint, titanium can break.
My SO had one of the screws in her spine break from the first surgery.
She had slipped and fell agaiin at work, which broke the screw and
seperated the fusion also.
Well, I could get rear-ended on the way home from work tonite and the
whiplash might break the fusion -- I'll have to live with that risk the rest
of my life. I'm just not going to live my life in fear of re-injury, is all.
I refuse to live with that kind of attitude, whether it sounds stupid to
y'all or not. *shrug*

P.S. You don't have to say it, Heidi, I know you think I'm an idiot already
;-)
JohnL
2005-06-22 21:24:49 UTC
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Post by indigo
I'll have to live with that risk the rest
of my life. I'm just not going to live my life in fear of re-injury,
is all. I refuse to live with that kind of attitude, whether it sounds
stupid to y'all or not. *shrug*
Nope, uderstand what you mean.

My SO feels the same way. Only thing she still tries to do too much and the
pain gets intense. She's beginning to learn how far to push it and as long
as she doesn't get impatient, she'll do ok.

"Better Living thru Chemistry" ;-)
indigo
2005-06-23 13:27:12 UTC
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Post by JohnL
My SO feels the same way. Only thing she still tries to do too much
and the pain gets intense. She's beginning to learn how far to push
it and as long as she doesn't get impatient, she'll do ok.
I went through the same thing during the beginning of rehab, pushed too hard
too fast and warded off the pain with pills.......
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"Better Living thru Chemistry" ;-)
Heh. I wish......
Spamvireslayer
2005-06-23 13:29:35 UTC
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Post by indigo
I went through the same thing during the beginning of rehab, pushed too hard
too fast and warded off the pain with pills.......
Yes but, the pain is there for a reason, dulling it makes you overwork something you
shouldn't and then you end up worse off, impatient silly man.......
indigo
2005-06-23 14:21:55 UTC
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Post by Spamvireslayer
Post by indigo
I went through the same thing during the beginning of rehab, pushed
too hard too fast and warded off the pain with pills.......
Yes but, the pain is there for a reason, dulling it makes you
overwork something you shouldn't and then you end up worse off,
impatient silly man.......
But I wonder (now) how much of the muscle pain was real and how much was
caused by the yeast overgrowth -- remember, all my aches and pains
disappeared 2 days after I started taking probiotics.......
Spamvireslayer
2005-06-23 15:08:28 UTC
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Post by indigo
But I wonder (now) how much of the muscle pain was real and how much was
caused by the yeast overgrowth -- remember, all my aches and pains
disappeared 2 days after I started taking probiotics.......
Who knows, I think that two days is way too fast to see results from probiotics, the
Candida infection, if you have it, takes a lot longer to go away than that. Maybe
you had something else?
indigo
2005-06-23 16:07:02 UTC
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Post by Spamvireslayer
Post by indigo
But I wonder (now) how much of the muscle pain was real and how
much was caused by the yeast overgrowth -- remember, all my aches
and pains disappeared 2 days after I started taking
probiotics.......
Who knows, I think that two days is way too fast to see results from
probiotics, the Candida infection, if you have it, takes a lot longer
to go away than that. Maybe you had something else?
It wasn't that the yeast magically disappeared, it was that my body started
digesting minerals and nutrients properly due to the new flood of good
bacteria in my gut (my main problem was muscle cramping). My extreme fatigue
went away too, another sign of what was going on.
Heidi
2005-06-22 23:41:00 UTC
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Post by indigo
Well, I could get rear-ended on the way home from work tonite and the
whiplash might break the fusion -- I'll have to live with that risk the rest
of my life. I'm just not going to live my life in fear of re-injury, is all.
I refuse to live with that kind of attitude, whether it sounds stupid to
y'all or not. *shrug*
P.S. You don't have to say it, Heidi, I know you think I'm an idiot already
;-)
I don't have any problem with that attitude, look what I do, ride big 1200
pound beasts with brains the size of a grapefruit (or at least until this
week I did)- I could get killed just standing next to one, but I won't NOT
do it because if I'm smart and careful, I can diminish the risk and still
enjoy myself.

Can't help but think that there are better ways to treat your back than
shoving everything around all the time - if it was strong enough it wouldn't
slip out of place, would it? So maybe specific exercise instead of
maniupulation? I went to a chiro after my first bad whiplash, the first few
times it felt better, but after a year and he still had to keep doing the
same thing, it wasn't healing me, and manipulating your spine like that on a
regular basis is not a good idea, so I stopped going and went to PT to
strengthen it for good. Fess up, you just like going cause she's a
chick.... ;>
JohnL
2005-06-22 23:46:31 UTC
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Fess up, you just like going cause she's a chick.... ;>
She "touches" him sooo gooooodd. ;-)
Heidi
2005-06-22 23:51:30 UTC
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Fess up, you just like going cause she's a chick.... ;>
She "touches" him sooo gooooodd. ;-)
He is shockingly transparent (NOT!)
JohnL
2005-06-23 00:01:35 UTC
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She "touches" him sooo gooooodd. ;-)
He is shockingly transparent (NOT!)
ROTFL!!
indigo
2005-06-23 13:44:48 UTC
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P.S. You don't have to say it, Heidi, I know you think I'm an idiot
already ;-)
I don't have any problem with that attitude, look what I do, ride big
1200 pound beasts with brains the size of a grapefruit (or at least
until this week I did)- I could get killed just standing next to one,
but I won't NOT do it because if I'm smart and careful, I can
diminish the risk and still enjoy myself.
You're right, riding horses IS dumber than me playing basketball again :-P
Post by Heidi
Can't help but think that there are better ways to treat your back
than shoving everything around all the time - if it was strong enough
it wouldn't slip out of place, would it? So maybe specific exercise
instead of maniupulation?
I am working with my PT gal on strengthening my core muscles, but I've only
been doing it for a month or so. We'll see if that solves the problem, but
it will take a while.

I went to a chiro after my first bad
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whiplash, the first few times it felt better, but after a year and he
still had to keep doing the same thing, it wasn't healing me, and
manipulating your spine like that on a regular basis is not a good
idea, so I stopped going and went to PT to strengthen it for good.
I don't believe that manipulating various body parts is bad for you at
all -- in fact I think the opposite. If something gets out of kilter and you
don't get it fixed the problem spreads to other parts of the body. For
instance, my hips get rotated, constantly. That causes really bad lower back
pain (it make one leg a tad shorter than the other). Me and my chiro decided
years ago that once a month visits are the best course of action for me, and
it has worked ever since. I have a malformed vertabrae in my lower back that
causes the problem, can't stop the problem from happening, so we do what we
have to do.....
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Fess up, you just like going cause she's a chick.... ;>
She ain't a "chick", she a 50 something year old second mother.......
Spamvireslayer
2005-06-23 13:53:35 UTC
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Post by indigo
You're right, riding horses IS dumber than me playing basketball again :-P
Not if you do it carefully and intelligently, but there's inherent danger is just
driving to work, so what are we supposed to do, stay home?
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I am working with my PT gal on strengthening my core muscles, but I've only
been doing it for a month or so. We'll see if that solves the problem, but
it will take a while.
I will say that my lower back has always bothered me, between riding, and then
mucking stalls and lifting water buckets on weeknds, I was always stiff and sore.
When I started going to the gym and using those machines for the lower back, my
stiffness went away the stronger I got. That's about the only part of the gym I
miss. Hmm....maybe now that I'm not riding, I'll go back again....
Post by indigo
I don't believe that manipulating various body parts is bad for you at
all -- in fact I think the opposite.
Depends, muscles and ligaments etc, those wouldn't be damaging, but cracking your
spine joints, constantly, I personally don't think that's healthy. It's one thing if
you do it to fix something, then it's fixed for good, if you have to keep doing it,
then something is weak that allows it to slip out of place, and that should be fixed
instead of constantly messing with your joints.

If something gets out of kilter and you
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don't get it fixed the problem spreads to other parts of the body. For
instance, my hips get rotated, constantly. That causes really bad lower back
pain (it make one leg a tad shorter than the other). Me and my chiro decided
years ago that once a month visits are the best course of action for me, and
it has worked ever since. I have a malformed vertabrae in my lower back that
causes the problem, can't stop the problem from happening, so we do what we
have to do.....
Fess up, you just like going cause she's a chick.... ;>
She ain't a "chick", she a 50 something year old second mother.......
OH, so you've got a granny fetish.......
indigo
2005-06-23 14:28:27 UTC
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OH, so you've got a granny fetish.......
As long as they don't have cellulite ;-)
JohnL
2005-06-22 20:10:13 UTC
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Don't be greedy, SHARE! I want to try something new!
Psst...
Hey... I got some "good stuff". ;-)
indigo
2005-06-22 20:31:27 UTC
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Post by Spamvireslayer
Don't be greedy, SHARE! I want to try something new!
Psst...
Hey... I got some "good stuff". ;-)
Willing to help out a couple of .social buds? ;-)
JohnL
2005-06-22 20:48:38 UTC
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Willing to help out a couple of .social buds? ;-)
Uh, and create an international incident?

Come on up here and I'll share. :)
indigo
2005-06-22 21:06:31 UTC
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Willing to help out a couple of .social buds? ;-)
Uh, and create an international incident?
Come on up here and I'll share. :)
If you lived in Toronto I'd take you up on that ;-)
Spamvireslayer
2005-06-22 20:37:33 UTC
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Post by JohnL
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Don't be greedy, SHARE! I want to try something new!
Psst...
Hey... I got some "good stuff". ;-)
PSSST...I'm ready......
JohnL
2005-06-22 20:48:53 UTC
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PSSST...I'm ready......
See reply to Indi. ;-)
Spamvireslayer
2005-06-22 20:54:33 UTC
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PSSST...I'm ready......
See reply to Indi. ;-)
We'll need directions.... :D
indigo
2005-06-22 21:07:25 UTC
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PSSST...I'm ready......
See reply to Indi. ;-)
We'll need directions.... :D
Can you get my share while you're there instead? ;-)
Heidi
2005-06-22 23:50:31 UTC
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Can you get my share while you're there instead? ;-)
As IF! Finders keepers.........
JohnL
2005-06-23 00:00:26 UTC
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Can you get my share while you're there instead? ;-)
As IF! Finders keepers.........
BTW, just picked up 100 - 100MG and 150 - 15MG capsules
Also have some "spare" 30, 60 and 90 MG pills lying around. :):)
Also, Darvons, 642's and other assorted meds from the past couple years.
Heidi
2005-06-23 00:02:45 UTC
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Post by JohnL
BTW, just picked up 100 - 100MG and 150 - 15MG capsules
Also have some "spare" 30, 60 and 90 MG pills lying around. :):)
Also, Darvons, 642's and other assorted meds from the past couple years.
PILL TEASE.......!
JohnL
2005-06-23 00:12:13 UTC
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Post by Heidi
Post by JohnL
BTW, just picked up 100 - 100MG and 150 - 15MG capsules
Also have some "spare" 30, 60 and 90 MG pills lying around. :):)
Also, Darvons, 642's and other assorted meds from the past couple years.
PILL TEASE.......!
LOL, and we have still others............
indigo
2005-06-23 13:23:25 UTC
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Post by JohnL
BTW, just picked up 100 - 100MG and 150 - 15MG capsules
Also have some "spare" 30, 60 and 90 MG pills lying around. :):)
Also, Darvons, 642's and other assorted meds from the past couple years.
You gotta be shittin' me! Share the wealth, man! ;-)
JohnL
2005-06-23 13:28:36 UTC
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Post by indigo
You gotta be shittin' me! Share the wealth, man! ;-)
I'm a regualar Drug Store here.
But unfortunatelly, it's all for one person.

Hey, I even found some percocet from her last surgery. Almost the whole
bottle still left because it didn't help with the pain and that was when
she went to Morphine.

REALLY got to throw some of this stuff away. Some if it has to beyound the
expire dates. I'm just the type who thinks it's always good to keep some
reserve. :)
Spamvireslayer
2005-06-23 13:30:37 UTC
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Post by JohnL
REALLY got to throw some of this stuff away. Some if it has to beyound the
expire dates. I'm just the type who thinks it's always good to keep some
reserve. :)
Pah, who pays attention to expiration dates, unless it's milk or eggs.....
Frog Prince
2005-06-23 14:53:39 UTC
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"Spamvireslayer"
| >
| > REALLY got to throw some of this stuff away. Some if it has to beyond
the
| > expire dates. I'm just the type who thinks it's always good to keep some
| > reserve. :)
|
| Pah, who pays attention to expiration dates, unless it's milk or eggs.....

Or driver's license, pass port, rebates, CDs (the money kind but I don't
have any of those anymore)

Pop corn is a biggy around here. Too old and it just sits there ...
smolkin'
indigo
2005-06-23 13:22:39 UTC
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Post by indigo
Can you get my share while you're there instead? ;-)
As IF! Finders keepers.........
You ain't finding, you be "getting"! Anyway, my neck stopped hurting this
morning out of the blue.......but I wouldn't mind having a little
"emergency" stash for the future ;-)
Spamvireslayer
2005-06-23 13:31:14 UTC
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Post by indigo
You ain't finding, you be "getting"! Anyway, my neck stopped hurting this
morning out of the blue.......but I wouldn't mind having a little
"emergency" stash for the future ;-)
Fine, then I need it worse than you do right now so I get it all. Mine. All. Mine.
indigo
2005-06-23 14:24:41 UTC
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Post by Spamvireslayer
Post by indigo
You ain't finding, you be "getting"! Anyway, my neck stopped
hurting this morning out of the blue.......but I wouldn't mind
having a little "emergency" stash for the future ;-)
Fine, then I need it worse than you do right now so I get it all.
Mine. All. Mine.
Selfish wench :-P
Spamvireslayer
2005-06-23 14:26:48 UTC
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Post by indigo
Selfish wench :-P
Selfish and MISERABLE - my tooth, actually upper AND lower jaw last night hurt more
than it has in a week, ice pack and all, I had to take two percoset last night. I
couldn't find my jiffy toothache drops either, which may have helped, so I guess I
need to go to the drugstore on the way home.
indigo
2005-06-23 14:32:08 UTC
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Post by Spamvireslayer
Post by indigo
Selfish wench :-P
Selfish and MISERABLE - my tooth, actually upper AND lower jaw last
night hurt more than it has in a week, ice pack and all, I had to
take two percoset last night. I couldn't find my jiffy toothache
drops either, which may have helped, so I guess I need to go to the
drugstore on the way home.
Hey, at least YOU can call your dentist and get more or something stronger.
I'm SOL.
Spamvireslayer
2005-06-23 14:38:54 UTC
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Post by indigo
Hey, at least YOU can call your dentist and get more or something stronger.
I'm SOL.
I got a new scrip yesterday when I got my stitches out, for 24 more, not nearly
enough.......
indigo
2005-06-23 14:45:22 UTC
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Post by Spamvireslayer
Post by indigo
Hey, at least YOU can call your dentist and get more or something
stronger. I'm SOL.
I got a new scrip yesterday when I got my stitches out, for 24 more,
not nearly enough.......
You just got 24 more and you're complaining!?!
Spamvireslayer
2005-06-23 14:53:45 UTC
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Post by indigo
You just got 24 more and you're complaining!?!
I'd like a standing order, actually.....without the tylenol...... :)
JohnL
2005-06-22 21:19:50 UTC
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Post by Spamvireslayer
We'll need directions.... :D
Well, "most" of the year I'd say go North till you hit the white stuff.

But lately, you need to be sure your vehicle will float.
LOTS of rain lately.
T-Storms forcasted for this evening.
Frog Prince
2005-06-22 22:46:56 UTC
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"Spamvireslayer"
| >
| > Their mine! Mine, I tell you! Heidi had claims to percs, not endocet!
Want
| > my shipping address? ;-)
| >
| Don't be greedy, SHARE! I want to try something new!

Don't ... go ... there...
Charles
2005-06-22 23:09:32 UTC
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Post by Spamvireslayer
Don't be greedy, SHARE! I want to try something new!
For what ailment? Besides, gargle it, it looks like just another brand
name for the same stuff...
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Spamvireslayer
2005-06-22 19:29:39 UTC
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Post by indigo
Their mine! Mine, I tell you! Heidi had claims to percs, not endocet! Want
my shipping address? ;-)
Sigh.....they're the same thing....
http://www.ajc.com/health/altmed/shared/health/alt_medicine/ConsDrugs/OxycodoneandAcetaminophencd.html
indigo
2005-06-22 19:51:43 UTC
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Post by Spamvireslayer
Post by indigo
Their mine! Mine, I tell you! Heidi had claims to percs, not
endocet! Want my shipping address? ;-)
Sigh.....they're the same thing....
http://www.ajc.com/health/altmed/shared/health/alt_medicine/ConsDrugs/OxycodoneandAcetaminophencd.html

I knew that, those are just the brand names for oxycodone 10/500, the
typical pill handed out. I prefer 20/325's myself, more bang for the buck
and less tylenol, which is bad for your liver and doesn't do dick for the
pain (in my body anyway). I don't even think tylenol has anti-inflammatory
properties, does it? No as good as ibuprofen, in any case.
Spamvireslayer
2005-06-22 19:56:11 UTC
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Post by indigo
I knew that, those are just the brand names for oxycodone 10/500, the
typical pill handed out. I prefer 20/325's myself, more bang for the buck
and less tylenol, which is bad for your liver and doesn't do dick for the
pain (in my body anyway). I don't even think tylenol has anti-inflammatory
properties, does it? No as good as ibuprofen, in any case.
Harrumph, I got cheated, I only got 5/325...... Tylenol doesn't do crap for me,
wonder why I can't just have oxycodone on it's own and take ibu with it?
David Dean
2005-06-22 20:26:47 UTC
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Post by Spamvireslayer
Harrumph, I got cheated, I only got 5/325...... Tylenol doesn't do crap for me,
wonder why I can't just have oxycodone on it's own and take ibu with it?
They make it with ibuprophen. That's what I got when I had my last
crown done.
--
-David
indigo
2005-06-22 20:47:00 UTC
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Post by Spamvireslayer
Harrumph, I got cheated, I only got 5/325...... Tylenol doesn't do crap for me,
wonder why I can't just have oxycodone on it's own and take ibu with it?
They make it with ibuprophen. That's what I got when I had my last
crown done.
You sure about that? I know they mix oxy or hydrocodone with _aspirin_, but
I've never seen that combo you're describing (and I've taken just about
every narcotic painkiller ever made, no joke). Try dilaudid
sometime......talk about "getting a warm and fuzzy feeling".......that's
some serious shit there.
Spamvireslayer
2005-06-22 20:55:18 UTC
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Post by indigo
You sure about that? I know they mix oxy or hydrocodone with _aspirin_, but
I've never seen that combo you're describing (and I've taken just about
every narcotic painkiller ever made, no joke). Try dilaudid
sometime......talk about "getting a warm and fuzzy feeling".......that's
some serious shit there.
Nobody *ever* gives me anything that good! :(
indigo
2005-06-22 21:13:50 UTC
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Try dilaudid sometime......talk about "getting a warm and
Post by Spamvireslayer
Post by indigo
fuzzy feeling".......that's some serious shit there.
Nobody *ever* gives me anything that good! :(
That's what I was taking via IV in the hospital, and damn, it felt soooo
goooood......
David Dean
2005-06-22 21:03:06 UTC
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Post by indigo
You sure about that? I know they mix oxy or hydrocodone with _aspirin_, but
I've never seen that combo you're describing (and I've taken just about
every narcotic painkiller ever made, no joke). Try dilaudid
sometime......talk about "getting a warm and fuzzy feeling".......that's
some serious shit there.
Ok, I looked it up. Vicoprophen, it is hydrocodone and ibuprophen. I
haven't had much experience with painkillers. My wife's knees are bad
and she's had a number of different ones, but I don't remember that one.
--
-David
indigo
2005-06-22 21:14:38 UTC
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Post by David Dean
Post by indigo
You sure about that? I know they mix oxy or hydrocodone with
_aspirin_, but I've never seen that combo you're describing (and
I've taken just about every narcotic painkiller ever made, no
joke). Try dilaudid sometime......talk about "getting a warm and
fuzzy feeling".......that's some serious shit there.
Ok, I looked it up. Vicoprophen, it is hydrocodone and ibuprophen.
I haven't had much experience with painkillers. My wife's knees are
bad and she's had a number of different ones, but I don't remember
that one.
Thanks! I'll try to remember that the next time I fuck up some part of my
body! ;-)
indigo
2005-06-22 20:26:32 UTC
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Post by Spamvireslayer
Harrumph, I got cheated, I only got 5/325...... Tylenol doesn't do
crap for me, wonder why I can't just have oxycodone on it's own and
take ibu with it?
That's what I ended up doing with my neck -- when the pain extended into
months I asked my surgeon to put me on oxycontin and ibruprofen instead of
continuing to take those tylenol containing pills (oxycontin is pure
oxycodone, time released, but I'd sometimes chew the tablet to get immediate
relief).

But hey, Charles, my last (THE last one too) scrip ran out and my neck hurts
so I'll take anything I can get my hands on! ;-)
Charles
2005-06-22 23:13:40 UTC
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Post by indigo
But hey, Charles, my last (THE last one too) scrip ran out and my neck
hurts so I'll take anything I can get my hands on!
Are you aiming to get me in trouble? Sheesh. Anyway, they will always
prescribe more, won't they?
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indigo
2005-06-23 13:36:47 UTC
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Post by Charles
Post by indigo
But hey, Charles, my last (THE last one too) scrip ran out and my
neck hurts so I'll take anything I can get my hands on!
Are you aiming to get me in trouble?
Not particularly.....

Sheesh. Anyway, they will
Post by Charles
always prescribe more, won't they?
I'm officially not under the care of my surgeon any more, so he can't
prescribe me anything, legally......
Charles
2005-06-23 15:40:48 UTC
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Post by Charles
Post by indigo
But hey, Charles, my last (THE last one too) scrip ran out and my
neck hurts so I'll take anything I can get my hands on!
Are you aiming to get me in trouble?
Not particularly.....
Post by Charles
Sheesh. Anyway, they will always prescribe more, won't they?
I'm officially not under the care of my surgeon any more, so he can't
prescribe me anything, legally......
That goober on the radio got more. Maybe it was legal, maybe it wasn't
entirely legal. But telling the doc who did the work that it still hurts
seems pretty above-the-board to me. Either way, hey, I emailed my address
to your reply-to address but I haven't heard back from you.
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Charles
2005-06-22 23:12:45 UTC
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Post by indigo
more bang for the
buck and less tylenol, which is bad for your liver
It's only bad for your liver if both of the following:
1: you take more than the prescribed amount
2: you're an alcoholic

At least, that's my understanding of the matter.
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Mean presidents suck
indigo
2005-06-23 13:35:15 UTC
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Post by Charles
Post by indigo
more bang for the
buck and less tylenol, which is bad for your liver
1: you take more than the prescribed amount
Or take it for an extended period of time, like years, for a chronic pain.
Post by Charles
2: you're an alcoholic
At least, that's my understanding of the matter.
yeah, alcohol + tylenol = trouble
Charles
2005-06-23 15:38:55 UTC
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Post by indigo
Post by Charles
Post by indigo
more bang for the
buck and less tylenol, which is bad for your liver
1: you take more than the prescribed amount
Or take it for an extended period of time, like years, for a chronic pain.
Post by Charles
2: you're an alcoholic
At least, that's my understanding of the matter.
yeah, alcohol + tylenol = trouble
Not just alcohol - a lot of alcohol. And extended use of large amounts.
So, like, it seems to me that there isn't much of a problem for most
people, then, is there? Well?
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Spamvireslayer
2005-06-23 15:40:30 UTC
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Post by Charles
Not just alcohol - a lot of alcohol. And extended use of large amounts.
So, like, it seems to me that there isn't much of a problem for most
people, then, is there? Well?
I have a friend who ended up in the hospital with liver failure because he took too
much in a short period of time, it happened very suddenly, and he wasn't an
alcoholic.
Charles
2005-06-23 15:50:38 UTC
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Post by Charles
Not just alcohol - a lot of alcohol. And extended use of large
amounts. So, like, it seems to me that there isn't much of a problem
for most people, then, is there? Well?
I have a friend who ended up in the hospital with liver failure
because he took too much in a short period of time, it happened very
suddenly, and he wasn't an alcoholic.
Fine, not just with alcohol. Also with an OD on tylenol. But, then, other
than because you were in incredible pain, why would you do something like
that?
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indigo
2005-06-23 16:13:59 UTC
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Post by Charles
Not just alcohol - a lot of alcohol. And extended use of large
amounts. So, like, it seems to me that there isn't much of a problem
for most people, then, is there? Well?
It's never had an affect on me -- I get my liver enzymes checked every 3
months along with my cholesterol tests and have never had any problems
detected. Guess I don't drink enough......cuz I've surely drank alcohol and
taken those pills enough times for something bad to happen if it was
gonna......

Charles
2005-06-22 23:08:58 UTC
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Post by Charles
I was heard singing songs and telling jokes...
How could you be talking and singing with your jaw pried wide open?
Before and after... I remember before up to a certain point. Well, pretty
much the point where he injected me! Then I got a really metalic taste in
my mouth. Next thing I know I was in the recovery room (on the other side
of the curtain from some obnoxious woman - I believe that she was singing
and telling jokes...).
Post by indigo
Post by Charles
no percocet - they gave me endocet...
Their mine! Mine, I tell you! Heidi had claims to percs, not endocet!
Want my shipping address?
Hey, my email addie works. I'd have to think about the implications in all
of this and find something nifty that you could get me in return. And,
actually, you might have to fight it out with my SO, my sister-in-law, etc,
etc. Not to mention Heidi. And, as I understand it, she already knows
where you live!
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Mean presidents suck
Heidi
2005-06-22 23:46:52 UTC
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Post by Charles
Before and after... I remember before up to a certain point. Well, pretty
much the point where he injected me! Then I got a really metalic taste in
my mouth. Next thing I know I was in the recovery room (on the other side
of the curtain from some obnoxious woman - I believe that she was singing
and telling jokes...).
You were out, dude......
Charles
2005-06-22 23:50:39 UTC
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Post by Heidi
You were out, dude......
Comfortably sedated!
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indigo
2005-06-23 13:34:00 UTC
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Post by Charles
Post by indigo
Post by Charles
no percocet - they gave me endocet...
Their mine! Mine, I tell you! Heidi had claims to percs, not
endocet! Want my shipping address?
Hey, my email addie works. I'd have to think about the implications
in all of this and find something nifty that you could get me in
return.
Name your price ;-)

And, actually, you might have to fight it out with my SO, my
Post by Charles
sister-in-law, etc, etc. Not to mention Heidi. And, as I understand
it, she already knows where you live!
Heidi who? No such person! Really!
Charles
2005-06-23 15:37:45 UTC
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Heidi who? No such person! Really!
I'm not so sure about that... And she'll probably beat you to my door -
don't back problems make driving a, uh, pain?
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indigo
2005-06-23 16:09:21 UTC
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Post by indigo
Heidi who? No such person! Really!
I'm not so sure about that... And she'll probably beat you to my
door - don't back problems make driving a, uh, pain?
Yeah, I'd never survive a drive to Maine. How close is the nearest airport?
;-)
Spamvireslayer
2005-06-22 19:22:11 UTC
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Post by Charles
So, hey, jaw didn't break - there was enough bone to just cut the tooth
out. Thrilling, no? I'm still feeling pretty sketchy, but, hey, it's only
been 4 hours. I wanted to be loopy and not out and, well, they say that I
was loopy! I was heard singing songs and telling jokes... Still very very
spacey. And no percocet - they gave me endocet...
Glad it's in one piece, that would have sucked.....Mmm.. they must have used
novocaine too, has it worn off yet? Is endocet better? Can I have it?
Charles
2005-06-22 23:15:38 UTC
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they must have used novocaine too, has it worn off yet? Is endocet
better? Can I have it?
Yes, no, haven't decided what to do with it, yet. I've got bigger issues
at hand like, sigh, I haven't stopped bleeding yet (8+ hours later). Not
good...
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Heidi
2005-06-22 23:45:07 UTC
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Post by Charles
Yes, no, haven't decided what to do with it, yet. I've got bigger issues
at hand like, sigh, I haven't stopped bleeding yet (8+ hours later). Not
good...
Oh dear, have you tried the warm tea bag? Something in the tannin is
supposed to help stop the bleeding - did they tell you to try that, or just
give you a big envelope of gauze?
Charles
2005-06-22 23:51:29 UTC
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Post by Heidi
Oh dear, have you tried the warm tea bag?
No.
Post by Heidi
did they tell you to try that, or
just give you a big envelope of gauze?
It's one of many random things on their post-op list. It could use some
help...
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Heidi
2005-06-22 23:53:21 UTC
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Oh dear, have you tried the warm tea bag?
No.
http://www.animated-teeth.com/tooth_extractions/t6_extraction_instructions.htm

It is both firm pressure and maintaining this pressure for a period of 45
minutes or so that are important factors in this technique. Don't keep
changing the gauze, just put some in and then clamp down on it for 45
minutes to an hour.

If the bleeding seems to be persistent a slightly moistened tea bag can be a
very effective substitute for gauze. One of the components of tea (black
tea, the regular stuff you would make iced tea from) is tannic acid. Tannic
acid can aid in the formation of blood clots and this technique can be very
effective. (Same instructions as above, just substitute a tea bag for the
gauze.)

If a small amount of bleeding persists after 45 minutes then repeat these
instructions. If heavy bleeding is still present then contact your dentist.
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