Why are you atheists celebrating Christmas?

Don Kresch

2017-12-25 00:40:11 UTC

The fuck do you care.

Don
aa#51, Knight of BAAWA, Jedi Slackmaster
Praise "Bob" or burn in Slacklessness trying not to.

Olrik

2017-12-25 04:04:20 UTC

I'll bite : we're not celebrating "Christmas", but since this is a
holiday, we take the opportunity to see friends and family, party, eat
well and be merry, just having fun and looking forward to longer days.

--
Olrik
aa #1981
EAC Chief Food Inspector, Bacon Division

duke

2017-12-27 13:16:16 UTC

But why not another day if you're so opposed to Jesus Christ?

the dukester, American-American

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Teresita

2017-12-27 14:57:12 UTC

But why not another day if you're so opposed to Jesus Christ?

Jesus said sell all you have and give the proceeds to the poor. He
sounds like a communist to me. I'm only opposed to Republican Jesus.

b***@m.nu

2017-12-27 21:51:32 UTC

But why not another day if you're so opposed to Jesus Christ?

Jesus said sell all you have and give the proceeds to the poor. He
sounds like a communist to me. I'm only opposed to Republican Jesus.

damn I thought you knew, duke is jesus and god and a republican. He is
also the devil and santa claus and the big bad wolf and mentally
retarded and a liar and a dumbfuck.

Christopher A. Lee

2017-12-27 22:02:58 UTC

But why not another day if you're so opposed to Jesus Christ?

Jesus said sell all you have and give the proceeds to the poor. He
sounds like a communist to me. I'm only opposed to Republican Jesus.

damn I thought you knew, duke is jesus and god and a republican. He is
also the devil and santa claus and the big bad wolf and mentally
retarded and a liar and a dumbfuck.

Not to mention Blubba the Gut.

Ted

1970-01-01 00:00:00 UTC

Post by Christopher A. Lee

But why not another day if you're so opposed to Jesus Christ?

Jesus said sell all you have and give the proceeds to the poor. He
sounds like a communist to me. I'm only opposed to Republican Jesus.

damn I thought you knew, duke is jesus and god and a republican. He is
also the devil and santa claus and the big bad wolf and mentally
retarded and a liar and a dumbfuck.

Not to mention Blubba the Gut.

LOL. True.

hypatiab7

2017-12-28 11:21:57 UTC

Post by Christopher A. Lee

But why not another day if you're so opposed to Jesus Christ?

Jesus said sell all you have and give the proceeds to the poor. He
sounds like a communist to me. I'm only opposed to Republican Jesus.

damn I thought you knew, duke is jesus and god and a republican. He is
also the devil and santa claus and the big bad wolf and mentally
retarded and a liar and a dumbfuck.

Not to mention Blubba the Gut.

And Wurfle the Foo-Foo Bird. Foo-Foo Birds are very round and reach great
sizes. They're omnivorous. And they need a lot of stones to help digest
their food. They named themselves twice after the Exquisite Bird God Foo
figuring that this would bring them good luck. Unfortunately, the Foo-Foo
Birds are dying out, since both the male and female Foo-Foos are very
beautiful. They choose to mate with themselves.

duke

2017-12-28 19:28:39 UTC

But why not another day if you're so opposed to Jesus Christ?

Jesus said sell all you have and give the proceeds to the poor.

For what gain?

the dukester, American-American

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and a good cigar.

G.K. Chesterton
*****

Teresita

2017-12-29 04:17:47 UTC

Post by Teresita
Jesus said sell all you have and give the proceeds to the poor.

For what gain?

To have treasure in heaven. It's only Republican Jesus and Joel Osteen who say
every man for himself and devil take the hindmost.

duke

2017-12-29 23:50:26 UTC

Post by Teresita
Jesus said sell all you have and give the proceeds to the poor.

For what gain?

To have treasure in heaven. It's only Republican Jesus and Joel Osteen who say
every man for himself and devil take the hindmost.

Nope, to be perfect.

the dukester, American-American

*****
The Catholic Church is like a thick steak, a glass of red wine
and a good cigar.

G.K. Chesterton
*****

hypatiab7

2017-12-28 10:36:40 UTC

But why not another day if you're so opposed to Jesus Christ?

We don't have to justify ourselves to bigots like you, Earl.

Christopher A. Lee

2017-12-28 12:32:31 UTC

On Thu, 28 Dec 2017 02:36:40 -0800 (PST), hypatiab7

Post by hypatiab7

But why not another day if you're so opposed to Jesus Christ?

We don't have to justify ourselves to bigots like you, Earl.

Why can't the proven serial liar stop lying about us, to us? He's been
doing it all day and every day for the last twenty years.

In this case, he knows perfectly well that we would have to believe it
to be against it.

But it's merely something out somebody else's religion which he has
neither the courtesy nor the commonsense to keep where it belongs.

In all those years, he has never once taken any notice of the fact
that only Christians believe Christian doctrinal presumptions, and
only Catholics believe the Catholic ones - but from day one, he
treated us as if we did and were backsliding Catholics wanting to come
back into the fold.

He's certifiably insane.

WangoTango

2018-01-05 00:25:55 UTC

In article <***@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
@cox.net says...

But why not another day if you're so opposed to Jesus Christ?

And, if Jesus had anything to do with the date, this might mean
something.
Christians *steal* a pagan holiday and then bitch that people don't give
a shit about them doing it.

Yap Honghor

2018-01-05 00:58:39 UTC

Post by WangoTango
@cox.net says...

But why not another day if you're so opposed to Jesus Christ?

It is not in our power to appoint a holiday date, idiot.

Post by WangoTango
And, if Jesus had anything to do with the date, this might mean
something.
Christians *steal* a pagan holiday and then bitch that people don't give
a shit about them doing it.

The fat moron knows that all things Christian are inherited mostly from paganism. The Western Judo-christian culture is mostly Jewish, nothing original European, right?

duke

2018-01-05 18:20:53 UTC

Post by WangoTango
@cox.net says...

But why not another day if you're so opposed to Jesus Christ?

And, if Jesus had anything to do with the date, this might mean
something.
Christians *steal* a pagan holiday and then bitch that people don't give
a shit about them doing it.

God selected 12/25 as the celebration date of his birthday billions of years
before the farmers got in the act.

the dukester, American-American

*****
The Catholic Church is like a thick steak, a glass of red wine
and a good cigar.

G.K. Chesterton
*****

Kevrob

2018-01-05 20:07:55 UTC

Post by duke
God selected 12/25 as the celebration date of his birthday billions of years
before the farmers got in the act.

This is rot.

It made perfect sense for the early church to plant its new holidays
on top of old ones. Sometimes there was a religious resonance.
Christians see the judicial murder and supposed resurrection of
Josh as a completion of the covenant between Yahooey and the Hebrews.
If their savor was born during lambing season, which is suggested
by "shepherds watching their flocks by night," Christmas and Passover
would be too close to each other. By lacing one holiday in spring
and the other 8 or 9 months later, it allowed for the establishment of
a "liturgical year." Starting with "Advent," the weeks leading up to
the Feast of the Nativity (Christmas), then proceeding through Christmastide
to Lent, Easter, Pentecost (apostles given the Holy Spirit)and then
Ordinary Time, until it is Advent again.

Telling the story of the prediction of Josh's arrival, his birth, life,
death and supposed ascension into heaven, in that order, is what putting
the holidays in order allowed. If we had access to the actual Common
Era, modern calendar dates those events took place on, or were said to
take place on in the case of the ludicrously unbelieveable ones, the
gospel story might hop around quite a bit. Remember that, prior to
Gutenberg, most Christian believers HEARD the gospel, rather than read it.
Literacy was much less common, and books fiendishly expensive, as they
were hand-made goods, in fragile formats: papyrus scrolls, for example.

Academic theologians, rather than self-taught "bible study" mavens,
would tell you it doesn't really matter what day Josh's birth is
celebrated on, what matters is what you believe did or did not happen,
and that, if to keep early Christians from being killed by angry mobs
because they were impious in respect to the Roman ghodz or local
equivalent, because they didn't revel during Saturnalia or the feast
of the Undying Sun, it was necessary to sneak Christmas past the pagans
using calendrical camouflage, so be it.

That said, Christmastide ends tomorrow morning, Epiphany, in the Western Church. "12th night," aka "Epiphany Eve" is tonight.

It used to extend to 2 Feb, "Candlemass," which is 40 days past Christmas.

In New Orleans, Mardi Gras season starts when Christmastide ends.

Kevin R

duke

2018-01-07 17:26:12 UTC

Post by duke
God selected 12/25 as the celebration date of his birthday billions of years
before the farmers got in the act.

This is rot.

Oh?? How do you know?

Post by Kevrob
It made perfect sense for the early church to plant its new holidays
on top of old ones.

And a whole lot more appropriate. But in the case if the birth of the Lord,
he came as the new light coming out of the darkness of sin, thus the farmer
habit of looking forward to the growing season was also a good selection for the
celebration of Jesus' birthday.

Of course, the week long celebration of the solstice ends 3 days before Christ
leaves no room for overlap.

Post by Kevrob
Sometimes there was a religious resonance.
Christians see the judicial murder and supposed resurrection of
Josh as a completion of the covenant between Yahooey and the Hebrews.
If their savor was born during lambing season, which is suggested
by "shepherds watching their flocks by night," Christmas and Passover
would be too close to each other. By lacing one holiday in spring
and the other 8 or 9 months later, it allowed for the establishment of
a "liturgical year." Starting with "Advent," the weeks leading up to
the Feast of the Nativity (Christmas), then proceeding through Christmastide
to Lent, Easter, Pentecost (apostles given the Holy Spirit)and then
Ordinary Time, until it is Advent again.
Telling the story of the prediction of Josh's arrival, his birth, life,
death and supposed ascension into heaven, in that order, is what putting
the holidays in order allowed. If we had access to the actual Common
Era, modern calendar dates those events took place on, or were said to
take place on in the case of the ludicrously unbelieveable ones, the
gospel story might hop around quite a bit. Remember that, prior to
Gutenberg, most Christian believers HEARD the gospel, rather than read it.
Literacy was much less common, and books fiendishly expensive, as they
were hand-made goods, in fragile formats: papyrus scrolls, for example.

Plus few if any men on the street could read or write. Teaching by the learned
thus made good sense.

Post by Kevrob
Academic theologians, rather than self-taught "bible study" mavens,
would tell you it doesn't really matter what day Josh's birth is
celebrated on, what matters is what you believe did or did not happen,
and that, if to keep early Christians from being killed by angry mobs
because they were impious in respect to the Roman ghodz or local
equivalent, because they didn't revel during Saturnalia or the feast
of the Undying Sun, it was necessary to sneak Christmas past the pagans
using calendrical camouflage, so be it.
That said, Christmastide ends tomorrow morning, Epiphany, in the Western Church. "12th night," aka "Epiphany Eve" is tonight.
It used to extend to 2 Feb, "Candlemass," which is 40 days past Christmas.
In New Orleans, Mardi Gras season starts when Christmastide ends.
Kevin R

the dukester, American-American

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but to form, not to teach but to live.

*****

Gronk

2018-01-16 05:30:36 UTC

Post by duke
God selected 12/25 as the celebration date of his birthday billions of years
before the farmers got in the act.

This is rot.
It made perfect sense for the early church to plant its new holidays
on top of old ones. etc

Bascially, if you can't beat 'em, then subsume 'em...

Teresita

2018-01-06 00:39:41 UTC

Post by duke
God selected 12/25 as the celebration date of his birthday billions of years
before the farmers got in the act.

I went through the Bible like Archbishop Ussher did, but with greater
attention to detail, and I have creation down as occurring in 4,163 BCE,
not 'billions of years' ago. Unless you're telling me all those begats
and ages of kings when they ascended to the throne are lies.

duke

2018-01-07 17:35:05 UTC

Post by duke
God selected 12/25 as the celebration date of his birthday billions of years
before the farmers got in the act.

Lies?? Like all scripture being literal rather than spiritual? Those lies?

Did you use Matthew or Luke? Did you know that Matthew goes back to the first
non-pagan Abraham but Luke goes back to Adam, each being 42 generations.

I wonder what each generation came to in years. I wonder if Adam really lived
to be 930 years old?

the dukester, American-American

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but to form, not to teach but to live.

*****

Teresita

2018-01-07 19:46:27 UTC

Post by duke
God selected 12/25 as the celebration date of his birthday billions of years
before the farmers got in the act.

Lies?? Like all scripture being literal rather than spiritual? Those lies?

Chicken Little gets hit on the head with an acorn and goes around
clucking that the sky is falling. He even writes it down in a book.
Later the evidence shows that it was just an acorn, and Chicken Little
disciples switch to the narrative that he said the sky was falling
spiritually.

--
https://twitter.com/LinuxGal

Ted

2018-01-09 02:01:32 UTC

Post by duke
God selected 12/25 as the celebration date of his birthday billions of years
before the farmers got in the act.

Lies?? Like all scripture being literal rather than spiritual? Those lies?

Good one.

duke

2018-01-09 20:25:01 UTC

Post by duke
God selected 12/25 as the celebration date of his birthday billions of years
before the farmers got in the act.

Lies?? Like all scripture being literal rather than spiritual? Those lies?

I gather you didn't know that Jesus spoke in parables to his many disciples.
THEY........understood. But to his closest friends, the apostles, he spoke
plainly.

the dukester, American-American

*****
The Purpose of scripture is not to inform,
but to form, not to teach but to live.

*****

Teresita

2018-01-09 21:13:07 UTC

Post by duke
I gather you didn't know that Jesus spoke in parables to his many disciples.
THEY........understood. But to his closest friends, the apostles, he spoke
plainly.

That's very much like what we do here on alt.atheism, Duke, except in
reverse. We speak plain English to each other, and our unwelcome theist
friends only hear whooshes in quadraphonic Dolby sound.

--
https://twitter.com/LinuxGal

Kevrob

2018-01-09 21:41:14 UTC

Post by duke
I gather you didn't know that Jesus spoke in parables to his many disciples.
THEY........understood. But to his closest friends, the apostles, he spoke
plainly.

That's very much like what we do here on alt.atheism, Duke, except in
reverse. We speak plain English to each other, and our unwelcome theist
friends only hear whooshes in quadraphonic Dolby sound.

Probably sounds like "Miss Othmar," from the animated Peanuts cartoons.

Kevin R

duke

2018-01-10 21:34:09 UTC

Post by duke
I gather you didn't know that Jesus spoke in parables to his many disciples.
THEY........understood. But to his closest friends, the apostles, he spoke
plainly.

That's very much like what we do here on alt.atheism, Duke, except in
reverse. We speak plain English to each other, and our unwelcome theist
friends only hear whooshes in quadraphonic Dolby sound.

Probably sounds like "Miss Othmar," from the animated Peanuts cartoons.
http://youtu.be/q_BU5hR9gXE

I love it when one on my "friends" can only think in terms of cartoons.

the dukester, American-American

*****
The Purpose of scripture is not to inform,
but to form, not to teach but to live.

*****

Kevrob

2018-01-10 21:56:50 UTC

Post by Kevrob
Probably sounds like "Miss Othmar," from the animated Peanuts cartoons.
http://youtu.be/q_BU5hR9gXE

I love it when one on my "friends" can only think in terms of cartoons.

I've said it to you before: Ya ain't got no culcha, son.

Kevin R

duke

2018-01-11 18:31:43 UTC

Post by Kevrob
Probably sounds like "Miss Othmar," from the animated Peanuts cartoons.
http://youtu.be/q_BU5hR9gXE

I love it when one on my "friends" can only think in terms of cartoons.

I've said it to you before: Ya ain't got no culcha, son.

Miss othmar didn't know what she was saying.

the dukester, American-American

*****
The Purpose of scripture is not to inform,
but to form, not to teach but to live.

*****

duke

2018-01-10 21:33:10 UTC

Post by duke
I gather you didn't know that Jesus spoke in parables to his many disciples.
THEY........understood. But to his closest friends, the apostles, he spoke
plainly.

That's very much like what we do here on alt.atheism, Duke, except in
reverse. We speak plain English to each other, and our unwelcome theist
friends only hear whooshes in quadraphonic Dolby sound.

I'm sure you go around whooshing each other. I hope it's in private. I myself
like to refer to my gotches of you as ZOOOOOOM over your head.

the dukester, American-American

*****
The Purpose of scripture is not to inform,
but to form, not to teach but to live.

*****

WangoTango

2018-01-08 22:40:25 UTC

In article <***@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
@cox.net says...

Post by WangoTango
@cox.net says...

But why not another day if you're so opposed to Jesus Christ?

And, if Jesus had anything to do with the date, this might mean
something.
Christians *steal* a pagan holiday and then bitch that people don't give
a shit about them doing it.

God selected 12/25 as the celebration date of his birthday billions of years
before the farmers got in the act.

LOL
You are going to have to do better than that.

duke

2018-01-09 20:25:38 UTC

Post by WangoTango
@cox.net says...

Post by WangoTango
@cox.net says...

But why not another day if you're so opposed to Jesus Christ?

And, if Jesus had anything to do with the date, this might mean
something.
Christians *steal* a pagan holiday and then bitch that people don't give
a shit about them doing it.

God selected 12/25 as the celebration date of his birthday billions of years
before the farmers got in the act.

LOL
You are going to have to do better than that.

Can't change the facts.

the dukester, American-American

*****
The Purpose of scripture is not to inform,
but to form, not to teach but to live.

*****

WangoTango

2018-01-12 01:58:52 UTC

In article <***@4ax.com>, duckgumbo32
@cox.net says...

Post by WangoTango
@cox.net says...

Post by WangoTango
@cox.net says...

But why not another day if you're so opposed to Jesus Christ?

And, if Jesus had anything to do with the date, this might mean
something.
Christians *steal* a pagan holiday and then bitch that people don't give
a shit about them doing it.

God selected 12/25 as the celebration date of his birthday billions of years
before the farmers got in the act.

LOL
You are going to have to do better than that.

Can't change the facts.

No, *you* can't.

duke

2018-01-12 19:12:29 UTC

Post by WangoTango
@cox.net says...

Post by WangoTango
@cox.net says...

Post by WangoTango
@cox.net says...

But why not another day if you're so opposed to Jesus Christ?

And, if Jesus had anything to do with the date, this might mean
something.
Christians *steal* a pagan holiday and then bitch that people don't give
a shit about them doing it.

God selected 12/25 as the celebration date of his birthday billions of years
before the farmers got in the act.

LOL
You are going to have to do better than that.

Can't change the facts.

No, *you* can't.

God already established the facts. Why would I want to change them?

the dukester, American-American

*****
The Purpose of scripture is not to inform,
but to form, not to teach but to live.

*****

John Baker

2017-12-25 04:29:52 UTC

I've always dreamed of becoming a Rockette.

--
AA #1898
Giver of No Fucks
Keeper of the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch

Teresita

2017-12-25 14:46:18 UTC

Post by John Baker
I've always dreamed of becoming a Rockette.

The Seahawks have been Rockettes all season. One two three KICK.

John Baker

2017-12-26 20:24:15 UTC

Post by John Baker
I've always dreamed of becoming a Rockette.

The Seahawks have been Rockettes all season. One two three KICK.

It's our resident forger. We just ignore him. <G>

AA #1898
Giver of No Fucks
Keeper of the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch

Kevrob

2017-12-28 00:19:50 UTC

Post by John Baker

Post by John Baker
I've always dreamed of becoming a Rockette.

The Seahawks have been Rockettes all season. One two three KICK.

The Rockettes play at two places:
Radio City, and over in the Jersey Meadowlands.

Post by John Baker
It's our resident forger. We just ignore him. <G>

Kevin R
(disgruntled Jints fan)

Peter Pan

2017-12-28 07:58:31 UTC

Post by John Baker
I've always dreamed of becoming a Rockette.

The Seahawks have been Rockettes all season. One two three KICK.

That's why they had wideouts named Rockette and Rockett,
known as "E" and "no-E". It was very sad when E's career
ended abruptly last year.

hypatiab7

2017-12-25 06:27:23 UTC

We aren't. Some of us are getting together with friends or family and just using
the day to get together no religion involved. Maybe some of us atheists got together on Chanukah for the same reason or the Winter Solstice. You shouldn't make assumptions.

Yap Honghor

2017-12-25 10:00:55 UTC

Who says we do????

b***@m.nu

2017-12-25 11:44:12 UTC

On Sun, 24 Dec 2017 19:07:55 -0500, Ann Taylor <***@verizon.net>
wrote:

It is and has been for thousands of years the winter solstice, why are
you celebrating? Did you know that the dumb ass christians took this
holiday from the pagans? Did you know there never even was a jesus
christ?
So you want to celebrate a holiday that was stolen and is given in the
name of something that never existed whose supposed birth was not for
another 7 months... Wow how about we celebrate your stupidity or
perhaps your insanity??

b***@m.nu

2017-12-25 23:39:03 UTC

Post by b***@m.nu
It is and has been for thousands of years the winter solstice, why are
you celebrating? Did you know that the dumb ass christians took this
holiday from the pagans? Did you know there never even was a jesus
christ?
So you want to celebrate a holiday that was stolen and is given in the
name of something that never existed whose supposed birth was not for
another 7 months... Wow how about we celebrate your stupidity or
perhaps your insanity??

edit

You call it christmas because it is all you know. You are a christian
so your knowledge of pretty much everything that is not christian
related is unknown to you. As I said above Your christmas was
celebrated thousands of years BEFORE some old men invented the story
that led to the christmas you know of today. Atheists do not celebrate
anything that has anything to do with your fairies.

Christopher A. Lee

2017-12-25 13:10:59 UTC

On Sun, 24 Dec 2017 19:07:55 -0500, Ann Taylor <***@verizon.net>
wrote:

Why are you such a sociopathic moron?

Alex W.

2017-12-25 23:28:53 UTC

Good food, good drink, good company, good times, good memories.

The most religious (Christian) element was a gingerbread cross decorated
with a chocolate Santa Claus made by a niece.

Mynews

2017-12-26 02:09:47 UTC

Ann Taylor
Atheists Don't Celebrate Christmas

Now Why Do Christen
Celebrate Are Santa Claus

Look Like He The Only One
Answering Your Prayers

Gronk

2017-12-31 05:02:12 UTC

Party time!

Davej

2018-01-09 03:11:41 UTC