Discussion:
Follow the bullets....Find the next domestic terrorist
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Too_Many_Tools
2012-07-21 19:02:39 UTC
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In these days of computerized retail, it is a simple matter to follow
ammunition to its buyers.

Then I am reminded of all these idiot conservatives bragging about all
the ammo they have brought.

Looks like they have been doing the heavy lifting for the Government
to help find out who the potential terrorists are...the idiots with
the excessive amounts of ammo.

So go ahead...buy lots and lots of ammo...and make it on the national
terrorist list.

TMT


Movie theater gunman had been stockpiling arsenal
The Lookout -
(Barry Gutierrez/AP)

AURORA, Colo. — The gunman who blasted his way through a packed movie
house early on Friday, killing 12 people and injuring 58 others, had
apparently been planning his attack for weeks.

"In the last 60 days he purchased four guns at local metro gun shops,
and through the Internet he purchased over 6,000 rounds of
ammunition," Aurora Police Chief Daniel Oates said Friday night.
Bill Smith
2012-07-21 19:38:22 UTC
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On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 12:02:39 -0700 (PDT), Too_Many_Tools
Post by Too_Many_Tools
In these days of computerized retail, it is a simple matter to follow
ammunition to its buyers.
Something on the order of 6 billion rounds of ammunition are sold
every year in the US.Tell me, how do decide which to follow?

Bill Smith
BeamMeUpScotty
2012-07-22 02:01:52 UTC
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Post by Bill Smith
On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 12:02:39 -0700 (PDT), Too_Many_Tools
Post by Too_Many_Tools
In these days of computerized retail, it is a simple matter to follow
ammunition to its buyers.
Something on the order of 6 billion rounds of ammunition are sold
every year in the US.Tell me, how do decide which to follow?
Bill Smith
The 3 billion that are sold to crazed tea party members.
Gunner Asch
2012-07-22 04:53:37 UTC
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Post by Bill Smith
On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 12:02:39 -0700 (PDT), Too_Many_Tools
Post by Too_Many_Tools
In these days of computerized retail, it is a simple matter to follow
ammunition to its buyers.
Something on the order of 6 billion rounds of ammunition are sold
every year in the US.Tell me, how do decide which to follow?
Bill Smith
The 3 billion that are sold to crazed tea party members.
Just another leftwing Useful Idiot



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She said "It's President's Day!"
(She is a smart kid.)
I asked "What does President's Day mean?"
I was waiting for something about Washington or Lincoln .... etc.
She replied, "President's Day is when President Obama steps out
of the White House, and if he sees his shadow we have
one more year of unemployment."
You know, it hurts when hot coffee spurts out your nose..."
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2012-07-22 17:26:23 UTC
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Post by Bill Smith
On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 12:02:39 -0700 (PDT), Too_Many_Tools
Post by Too_Many_Tools
In these days of computerized retail, it is a simple matter to follow
ammunition to its buyers.
Something on the order of 6 billion rounds of ammunition are sold
every year in the US.Tell me, how do decide which to follow?
Bill Smith
The 3 billion that are sold to crazed tea party members.
Just another leftwing Useful Idiot
Useful to whom as what?
Post by Gunner Asch
--
"I was eating breakfast with my 13-year-old granddaughter
and I asked her, "What day is the 20th of February?"
She said "It's President's Day!"
(She is a smart kid.)
I asked "What does President's Day mean?"
I was waiting for something about Washington or Lincoln .... etc.
She replied, "President's Day is when President Obama steps out
of the White House, and if he sees his shadow we have
one more year of unemployment."
You know, it hurts when hot coffee spurts out your nose..."
--
Refusenik #1
Michael A. Terrell
2012-07-22 18:44:46 UTC
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Post by Gray Guest
Post by Gunner Asch
Just another leftwing Useful Idiot
Useful to whom as what?
The DNC as minions.
Gunner Asch
2012-07-22 22:37:07 UTC
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Post by Bill Smith
On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 12:02:39 -0700 (PDT), Too_Many_Tools
Post by Too_Many_Tools
In these days of computerized retail, it is a simple matter to follow
ammunition to its buyers.
Something on the order of 6 billion rounds of ammunition are sold
every year in the US.Tell me, how do decide which to follow?
Bill Smith
The 3 billion that are sold to crazed tea party members.
Just another leftwing Useful Idiot
Useful to whom as what?
They are ONLY useful to the DNC.

They are only targets to be serviced for anyone else.


Gunner
Post by Gray Guest
Post by Gunner Asch
--
"I was eating breakfast with my 13-year-old granddaughter
and I asked her, "What day is the 20th of February?"
She said "It's President's Day!"
(She is a smart kid.)
I asked "What does President's Day mean?"
I was waiting for something about Washington or Lincoln .... etc.
She replied, "President's Day is when President Obama steps out
of the White House, and if he sees his shadow we have
one more year of unemployment."
You know, it hurts when hot coffee spurts out your nose..."
--
"I was eating breakfast with my 13-year-old granddaughter
and I asked her, "What day is the 20th of February?"

She said "It's President's Day!"
(She is a smart kid.)
I asked "What does President's Day mean?"
I was waiting for something about Washington or Lincoln .... etc.
She replied, "President's Day is when President Obama steps out
of the White House, and if he sees his shadow we have
one more year of unemployment."
You know, it hurts when hot coffee spurts out your nose..."
Bill Smith
2012-07-22 05:35:05 UTC
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On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 22:01:52 -0400, BeamMeUpScotty
Post by BeamMeUpScotty
Post by Bill Smith
On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 12:02:39 -0700 (PDT), Too_Many_Tools
Post by Too_Many_Tools
In these days of computerized retail, it is a simple matter to follow
ammunition to its buyers.
Something on the order of 6 billion rounds of ammunition are sold
every year in the US.Tell me, how do decide which to follow?
Bill Smith
The 3 billion that are sold to crazed tea party members.
And while they're busy watching tea party members some nut job of a
student kills a bunch of people in a theatre where guns aren't
allowed, it's just not safe, you see.

Bill Smith
RD Sandman
2012-07-22 18:56:46 UTC
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Post by BeamMeUpScotty
Post by Bill Smith
On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 12:02:39 -0700 (PDT), Too_Many_Tools
Post by Too_Many_Tools
In these days of computerized retail, it is a simple matter to follow
ammunition to its buyers.
Something on the order of 6 billion rounds of ammunition are sold
every year in the US.Tell me, how do decide which to follow?
Bill Smith
The 3 billion that are sold to crazed tea party members.
Not the ones sold to the New Black Panthers?
--
If you hear me yell, "Eject! Eject! Eject!"
The last two will be echoes......

If you stop to ask "Why?" You will be talking to
yourself because you just became the pilot.


Sleep well, tonight.....
BeamMeUpScotty
2012-07-22 20:40:07 UTC
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Post by RD Sandman
Post by BeamMeUpScotty
Post by Bill Smith
On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 12:02:39 -0700 (PDT), Too_Many_Tools
Post by Too_Many_Tools
In these days of computerized retail, it is a simple matter to follow
ammunition to its buyers.
Something on the order of 6 billion rounds of ammunition are sold
every year in the US.Tell me, how do decide which to follow?
Bill Smith
The 3 billion that are sold to crazed tea party members.
Not the ones sold to the New Black Panthers?
of course NOT that would be racist. ;)
Michael A. Terrell
2012-07-22 23:42:54 UTC
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Post by BeamMeUpScotty
Post by RD Sandman
Not the ones sold to the New Black Panthers?
of course NOT that would be racist. ;)
Of course they're racist. Otherwise they would just be called the
New Panthers.
Stormin Mormon
2012-07-23 01:17:23 UTC
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They could go to "new Diverse Panthers" and remain all black.

Christopher A. Young
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Post by BeamMeUpScotty
Post by RD Sandman
Not the ones sold to the New Black Panthers?
of course NOT that would be racist. ;)
Of course they're racist. Otherwise they would just be called the
New Panthers.
RD Sandman
2012-07-23 16:42:35 UTC
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Post by BeamMeUpScotty
Post by RD Sandman
Post by BeamMeUpScotty
Post by Bill Smith
On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 12:02:39 -0700 (PDT), Too_Many_Tools
Post by Too_Many_Tools
In these days of computerized retail, it is a simple matter to follow
ammunition to its buyers.
Something on the order of 6 billion rounds of ammunition are sold
every year in the US.Tell me, how do decide which to follow?
Bill Smith
The 3 billion that are sold to crazed tea party members.
Not the ones sold to the New Black Panthers?
of course NOT that would be racist. ;)
;)
--
If you hear me yell, "Eject! Eject! Eject!"
The last two will be echoes......

If you stop to ask "Why?" You will be talking to
yourself because you just became the pilot.


Sleep well, tonight.....
Stormin Mormon
2012-07-22 12:37:55 UTC
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How many bullets do the secret service guys buy? I think
that, for safety, we should immediately disarm the secret
service. After all, what if just one life could be saved?

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
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Gray Guest
2012-07-21 20:14:21 UTC
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Post by Too_Many_Tools
In these days of computerized retail, it is a simple matter to follow
ammunition to its buyers.
You don't get out much, do you?
--
Refusenik #1
azjohn
2012-07-21 22:07:39 UTC
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Post by Too_Many_Tools
In these days of computerized retail, it is a simple matter to follow
ammunition to its buyers.
Then I am reminded of all these idiot conservatives bragging about all
the ammo they have brought.
Looks like they have been doing the heavy lifting for the Government
to help find out who the potential terrorists are...the idiots with
the excessive amounts of ammo.
So go ahead...buy lots and lots of ammo...and make it on the national
terrorist list.
It is assholes like you that make Jan "the man" Napalitano think she is
protecting America from Christians, military veterans, etc.
BeamMeUpScotty
2012-07-22 01:53:38 UTC
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Post by Too_Many_Tools
In these days of computerized retail, it is a simple matter to follow
ammunition to its buyers.
Then I am reminded of all these idiot conservatives bragging about all
the ammo they have brought.
Looks like they have been doing the heavy lifting for the Government
to help find out who the potential terrorists are...the idiots with
the excessive amounts of ammo.
So go ahead...buy lots and lots of ammo...and make it on the national
terrorist list.
Buy lots and lots of castor oil plants and you can be on that list...
the plants are used to make Ricin.

"Ricin (play /ˈraɪsɪn/), from the castor oil plant Ricinus communis, is
a highly toxic, naturally occurring protein. A dose as small as a few
grains of salt can kill an adult human. The LD50 of ricin is around 22
micrograms per kilogram (1.76 mg for an average adult, around 1⁄228 of a
standard aspirin tablet/0.4 g gross) in humans if exposure is from
injection or inhalation.[1] Oral exposure to ricin is far less toxic and
a lethal dose can be up to 20–30 milligrams per kilogram."
Deucalion
2012-07-22 04:24:07 UTC
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On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 21:53:38 -0400, BeamMeUpScotty
Post by BeamMeUpScotty
Post by Too_Many_Tools
In these days of computerized retail, it is a simple matter to follow
ammunition to its buyers.
Then I am reminded of all these idiot conservatives bragging about all
the ammo they have brought.
Looks like they have been doing the heavy lifting for the Government
to help find out who the potential terrorists are...the idiots with
the excessive amounts of ammo.
So go ahead...buy lots and lots of ammo...and make it on the national
terrorist list.
Buy lots and lots of castor oil plants and you can be on that list...
the plants are used to make Ricin.
Wouldn't it be a lot easier to simply buy the seeds and plant them?
They are quite prolific.
Gray Guest
2012-07-22 02:15:27 UTC
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Post by Too_Many_Tools
In these days of computerized retail, it is a simple matter to follow
ammunition to its buyers.
Then I am reminded of all these idiot conservatives bragging about all
the ammo they have brought.
Looks like they have been doing the heavy lifting for the Government
to help find out who the potential terrorists are...the idiots with
the excessive amounts of ammo.
So go ahead...buy lots and lots of ammo...and make it on the national
terrorist list.
TMT
Movie theater gunman had been stockpiling arsenal
The Lookout -
(Barry Gutierrez/AP)
AURORA, Colo. — The gunman who blasted his way through a packed movie
house early on Friday, killing 12 people and injuring 58 others, had
apparently been planning his attack for weeks.
"In the last 60 days he purchased four guns at local metro gun shops,
and through the Internet he purchased over 6,000 rounds of
ammunition," Aurora Police Chief Daniel Oates said Friday night.
Just curious, do you know how many rounds he expended? From all reports
less than 2 50 round boxes, boxes he could have gotten anywhere.

Exactly what is the relevance to the fact that he bought 6,000 rounds of
ammunition when he left 5,930 behind?

Don't hurt yourself thinling about it now.

6,000 rounds is 12 cartons of .22 rimfire. I could burn through that in a
month. Many serious shooters by bulk to save. What about reloaders? You
going to put 20 digit tracking # on small pistol primers? Good luck with
that.
--
Refusenik #1
BeamMeUpScotty
2012-07-22 03:48:21 UTC
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Post by Gray Guest
Post by Too_Many_Tools
In these days of computerized retail, it is a simple matter to follow
ammunition to its buyers.
Then I am reminded of all these idiot conservatives bragging about all
the ammo they have brought.
Looks like they have been doing the heavy lifting for the Government
to help find out who the potential terrorists are...the idiots with
the excessive amounts of ammo.
So go ahead...buy lots and lots of ammo...and make it on the national
terrorist list.
TMT
Movie theater gunman had been stockpiling arsenal
The Lookout -
(Barry Gutierrez/AP)
AURORA, Colo. — The gunman who blasted his way through a packed movie
house early on Friday, killing 12 people and injuring 58 others, had
apparently been planning his attack for weeks.
"In the last 60 days he purchased four guns at local metro gun shops,
and through the Internet he purchased over 6,000 rounds of
ammunition," Aurora Police Chief Daniel Oates said Friday night.
Just curious, do you know how many rounds he expended? From all reports
less than 2 50 round boxes, boxes he could have gotten anywhere.
Exactly what is the relevance to the fact that he bought 6,000 rounds of
ammunition when he left 5,930 behind?
Liberals are amazed and confounded by big numbers....
Post by Gray Guest
Don't hurt yourself thinling about it now.
6,000 rounds is 12 cartons of .22 rimfire. I could burn through that in a
month. Many serious shooters by bulk to save. What about reloaders? You
going to put 20 digit tracking # on small pistol primers? Good luck with
that.
Gray Guest
2012-07-22 04:34:36 UTC
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Post by BeamMeUpScotty
news:88e3ba01-f021-4e73-
Post by Too_Many_Tools
In these days of computerized retail, it is a simple matter to follow
ammunition to its buyers.
Then I am reminded of all these idiot conservatives bragging about all
the ammo they have brought.
Looks like they have been doing the heavy lifting for the Government
to help find out who the potential terrorists are...the idiots with
the excessive amounts of ammo.
So go ahead...buy lots and lots of ammo...and make it on the national
terrorist list.
TMT
Movie theater gunman had been stockpiling arsenal
The Lookout -
(Barry Gutierrez/AP)
AURORA, Colo. — The gunman who blasted his way through a packed movie
house early on Friday, killing 12 people and injuring 58 others, had
apparently been planning his attack for weeks.
"In the last 60 days he purchased four guns at local metro gun shops,
and through the Internet he purchased over 6,000 rounds of
ammunition," Aurora Police Chief Daniel Oates said Friday night.
Just curious, do you know how many rounds he expended? From all reports
less than 2 50 round boxes, boxes he could have gotten anywhere.
Exactly what is the relevance to the fact that he bought 6,000 rounds
of ammunition when he left 5,930 behind?
Liberals are amazed and confounded by big numbers....
Hence the reason they don't understand the debt.
Post by BeamMeUpScotty
Don't hurt yourself thinling about it now.
6,000 rounds is 12 cartons of .22 rimfire. I could burn through that in
a month. Many serious shooters by bulk to save. What about reloaders?
You going to put 20 digit tracking # on small pistol primers? Good luck
with that.
--
Refusenik #1
California Shooter
2012-07-22 06:31:43 UTC
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In article <88e3ba01-f021-4e73-b54f-
Post by Too_Many_Tools
In these days of computerized retail, it is a simple matter to follow
ammunition to its buyers.
It's even easier to follow ammunition to a target.

Just look for the red spray.
Post by Too_Many_Tools
TMT
Klaus Schadenfreude
2012-07-22 11:02:03 UTC
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Post by Too_Many_Tools
In these days of computerized retail, it is a simple matter to follow
ammunition to its buyers.
Really? Explain how that's going to work for you.
Post by Too_Many_Tools
Then I am reminded of all these idiot conservatives bragging about all
the ammo they have brought.
You should SEE it all. Stacked to the ceiling.
Post by Too_Many_Tools
Looks like they have been doing the heavy lifting for the Government
to help find out who the potential terrorists are...the idiots with
the excessive amounts of ammo.
What COULD I be planning to DO with all this ammo? Doesn't it just
drive you wild that there's NOTHING you can do?

No way to trace it? No way to find out what I have, or where it is?
Post by Too_Many_Tools
So go ahead...buy lots and lots of ammo...and make it on the national
terrorist list.
Done! But it'll never make it to the list.

Unless..... unless you report it..



http://www.nctc.gov/incidents/incidents.html
Report Incidents
Everyone should take notice of their surroundings and report
suspicious items or activities to local authorities immediately.
Any suspected criminal or terrorist activity should be reported to the
Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI).

Rochester Police
http://www.rochestermn.gov/departments/police/contact/index.asp

Minnesota Department of Public Safety
445 Minnesota Street
Saint Paul MN 55101-5155
(651) 215-1328
deep
2012-07-22 11:36:30 UTC
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On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 12:02:39 -0700 (PDT), Too_Many_Tools
Post by Too_Many_Tools
In these days of computerized retail, it is a simple matter to follow
ammunition to its buyers.
Then I am reminded of all these idiot conservatives bragging about all
the ammo they have brought.
Looks like they have been doing the heavy lifting for the Government
to help find out who the potential terrorists are...the idiots with
the excessive amounts of ammo.
What's excessive? And you can go into gunshows and pay cash for all
the ammo you and your kid can carry and nobody will even ask you your
name.
Post by Too_Many_Tools
So go ahead...buy lots and lots of ammo...and make it on the national
terrorist list.
TMT
Movie theater gunman had been stockpiling arsenal
The Lookout -
(Barry Gutierrez/AP)
AURORA, Colo. — The gunman who blasted his way through a packed movie
house early on Friday, killing 12 people and injuring 58 others, had
apparently been planning his attack for weeks.
"In the last 60 days he purchased four guns at local metro gun shops,
and through the Internet he purchased over 6,000 rounds of
ammunition," Aurora Police Chief Daniel Oates said Friday night.
Klaus Schadenfreude
2012-07-22 11:40:04 UTC
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Post by Bill Smith
On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 12:02:39 -0700 (PDT), Too_Many_Tools
Post by Too_Many_Tools
In these days of computerized retail, it is a simple matter to follow
ammunition to its buyers.
Then I am reminded of all these idiot conservatives bragging about all
the ammo they have brought.
Looks like they have been doing the heavy lifting for the Government
to help find out who the potential terrorists are...the idiots with
the excessive amounts of ammo.
What's excessive? And you can go into gunshows and pay cash for all
the ammo you and your kid can carry and nobody will even ask you your
name.
As it should be.
Gunner Asch
2012-07-22 16:26:07 UTC
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On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 04:40:04 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Bill Smith
On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 12:02:39 -0700 (PDT), Too_Many_Tools
Post by Too_Many_Tools
In these days of computerized retail, it is a simple matter to follow
ammunition to its buyers.
Then I am reminded of all these idiot conservatives bragging about all
the ammo they have brought.
Looks like they have been doing the heavy lifting for the Government
to help find out who the potential terrorists are...the idiots with
the excessive amounts of ammo.
What's excessive? And you can go into gunshows and pay cash for all
the ammo you and your kid can carry and nobody will even ask you your
name.
As it should be.
Ive taken a heavy duty dolly to gunshows before, to haul out ammo. And
was not by any stretch..the only guy doing it.

But that was before I sold all my guns.

<VBG>

Gunner

--
"I was eating breakfast with my 13-year-old granddaughter
and I asked her, "What day is the 20th of February?"

She said "It's President's Day!"
(She is a smart kid.)
I asked "What does President's Day mean?"
I was waiting for something about Washington or Lincoln .... etc.
She replied, "President's Day is when President Obama steps out
of the White House, and if he sees his shadow we have
one more year of unemployment."
You know, it hurts when hot coffee spurts out your nose..."
BeamMeUpScotty
2012-07-22 16:03:50 UTC
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Post by Bill Smith
On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 12:02:39 -0700 (PDT), Too_Many_Tools
Post by Too_Many_Tools
In these days of computerized retail, it is a simple matter to follow
ammunition to its buyers.
Then I am reminded of all these idiot conservatives bragging about all
the ammo they have brought.
Looks like they have been doing the heavy lifting for the Government
to help find out who the potential terrorists are...the idiots with
the excessive amounts of ammo.
What's excessive? And you can go into gunshows and pay cash for all
the ammo you and your kid can carry and nobody will even ask you your
name.
That's called freedom...


An altruistic goal for Liberals and reality for others.
Too_Many_Tools
2012-07-22 18:20:29 UTC
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Post by Bill Smith
On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 12:02:39 -0700 (PDT), Too_Many_Tools
Post by Too_Many_Tools
In these days of computerized retail, it is a simple matter to follow
ammunition to its buyers.
Then I am reminded of all these idiot conservatives bragging about all
the ammo they have brought.
Looks like they have been doing the heavy lifting for the Government
to help find out who the potential terrorists are...the idiots with
the excessive amounts of ammo.
What's excessive?  And you can go into gunshows and pay cash for all
the ammo you and your kid can carry and nobody will even ask you your
name.
Post by Too_Many_Tools
So go ahead...buy lots and lots of ammo...and make it on the national
terrorist list.
TMT
Movie theater gunman had been stockpiling arsenal
The Lookout -
(Barry Gutierrez/AP)
AURORA, Colo. — The gunman who blasted his way through a packed movie
house early on Friday, killing 12 people and injuring 58 others, had
apparently been planning his attack for weeks.
"In the last 60 days he purchased four guns at local metro gun shops,
and through the Internet he purchased over 6,000 rounds of
ammunition," Aurora Police Chief Daniel Oates said Friday night.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
LOL...do you really think that you are not being monitored at a gun
show?

If so then you are a fool.

TMT
Klaus Schadenfreude
2012-07-22 19:30:59 UTC
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Post by Too_Many_Tools
Post by Bill Smith
On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 12:02:39 -0700 (PDT), Too_Many_Tools
Post by Too_Many_Tools
In these days of computerized retail, it is a simple matter to follow
ammunition to its buyers.
Then I am reminded of all these idiot conservatives bragging about all
the ammo they have brought.
Looks like they have been doing the heavy lifting for the Government
to help find out who the potential terrorists are...the idiots with
the excessive amounts of ammo.
What's excessive?  And you can go into gunshows and pay cash for all
the ammo you and your kid can carry and nobody will even ask you your
name.
Post by Too_Many_Tools
So go ahead...buy lots and lots of ammo...and make it on the national
terrorist list.
TMT
Movie theater gunman had been stockpiling arsenal
The Lookout -
(Barry Gutierrez/AP)
AURORA, Colo. — The gunman who blasted his way through a packed movie
house early on Friday, killing 12 people and injuring 58 others, had
apparently been planning his attack for weeks.
"In the last 60 days he purchased four guns at local metro gun shops,
and through the Internet he purchased over 6,000 rounds of
ammunition," Aurora Police Chief Daniel Oates said Friday night.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
LOL...do you really think that you are not being monitored at a gun
show?
Woooooo. TMT's paranoia runs much deeper than I suspected.
RD Sandman
2012-07-22 18:58:15 UTC
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Post by Bill Smith
On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 12:02:39 -0700 (PDT), Too_Many_Tools
Post by Too_Many_Tools
In these days of computerized retail, it is a simple matter to follow
ammunition to its buyers.
Then I am reminded of all these idiot conservatives bragging about all
the ammo they have brought.
Looks like they have been doing the heavy lifting for the Government
to help find out who the potential terrorists are...the idiots with
the excessive amounts of ammo.
What's excessive? And you can go into gunshows and pay cash for all
the ammo you and your kid can carry and nobody will even ask you your
name.
So what?
--
If you hear me yell, "Eject! Eject! Eject!"
The last two will be echoes......

If you stop to ask "Why?" You will be talking to
yourself because you just became the pilot.


Sleep well, tonight.....
Wayne
2012-07-22 14:42:34 UTC
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"Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message news:88e3ba01-f021-4e73-b54f-***@r33g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...

# In these days of computerized retail, it is a simple matter to follow
# ammunition to its buyers.

LOL. Once again proving that you are a dumbass.

Many of those purchases are in cash, and many order are in bulk. The bulk
orders might be split up between several folks.

Then there are the millions of rounds reloaded at home. How do you track
those.

As for 6,000 rounds...that isn't very much. Sounds like the perp wasn't
much of a shooter.
Klaus Schadenfreude
2012-07-22 14:48:07 UTC
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Post by Wayne
# In these days of computerized retail, it is a simple matter to follow
# ammunition to its buyers.
LOL. Once again proving that you are a dumbass.
Many of those purchases are in cash, and many order are in bulk. The bulk
orders might be split up between several folks.
Then there are the millions of rounds reloaded at home. How do you track
those.
As for 6,000 rounds...that isn't very much. Sounds like the perp wasn't
much of a shooter.
Hell, I have that many rolling around the floor of my car from trips
to the range. :>
Wayne
2012-07-22 15:19:08 UTC
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Post by Wayne
# In these days of computerized retail, it is a simple matter to follow
# ammunition to its buyers.
LOL. Once again proving that you are a dumbass.
Many of those purchases are in cash, and many order are in bulk. The bulk
orders might be split up between several folks.
Then there are the millions of rounds reloaded at home. How do you track
those.
As for 6,000 rounds...that isn't very much. Sounds like the perp wasn't
much of a shooter.
# Hell, I have that many rolling around the floor of my car from trips
# to the range. :>

LOL. Yep. I don't go to the range as much now because the nearest one
closed. But shooting 25,000 rounds a year isn't unusual for me. I know a
couple of competition types that shoot 2 or 3 times that much in addition to
perhaps 100,000 dry fires.
Gunner Asch
2012-07-22 16:16:45 UTC
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Post by Wayne
Post by Wayne
# In these days of computerized retail, it is a simple matter to follow
# ammunition to its buyers.
LOL. Once again proving that you are a dumbass.
Many of those purchases are in cash, and many order are in bulk. The bulk
orders might be split up between several folks.
Then there are the millions of rounds reloaded at home. How do you track
those.
As for 6,000 rounds...that isn't very much. Sounds like the perp wasn't
much of a shooter.
# Hell, I have that many rolling around the floor of my car from trips
# to the range. :>
LOL. Yep. I don't go to the range as much now because the nearest one
closed. But shooting 25,000 rounds a year isn't unusual for me. I know a
couple of competition types that shoot 2 or 3 times that much in addition to
perhaps 100,000 dry fires.
True indeed. Been there, done that, back before all my guns were sold
to feed the poor.
<VBG>

Gunner

--
"I was eating breakfast with my 13-year-old granddaughter
and I asked her, "What day is the 20th of February?"

She said "It's President's Day!"
(She is a smart kid.)
I asked "What does President's Day mean?"
I was waiting for something about Washington or Lincoln .... etc.
She replied, "President's Day is when President Obama steps out
of the White House, and if he sees his shadow we have
one more year of unemployment."
You know, it hurts when hot coffee spurts out your nose..."
SaPeIsMa
2012-07-22 16:45:29 UTC
Permalink
Post by Wayne
# In these days of computerized retail, it is a simple matter to follow
# ammunition to its buyers.
LOL. Once again proving that you are a dumbass.
Many of those purchases are in cash, and many order are in bulk. The bulk
orders might be split up between several folks.
Then there are the millions of rounds reloaded at home. How do you track
those.
As for 6,000 rounds...that isn't very much. Sounds like the perp wasn't
much of a shooter.
LOL
I just picked up 5,000 rounds of .22
They were on sale, so I cleaned out the shelf.
All it took was a my "green" canvas shopping bag to carry them out.
Too_Many_Tools
2012-07-22 18:23:29 UTC
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Post by Wayne
# In these days of computerized retail, it is a simple matter to follow
# ammunition to its buyers.
LOL.  Once again proving that you are a dumbass.
Many of those purchases are in cash, and many order are in bulk.  The bulk
orders might be split up between several folks.
Then there are the millions of rounds reloaded at home.  How do you track
those.
As for 6,000 rounds...that isn't very much.  Sounds like the perp wasn't
much of a shooter.
LOL..cash sales are still recorded...and tracked.

Especially after 9/11.

If you think otherwise you are a fool.

TMT
Klaus Schadenfreude
2012-07-22 19:34:44 UTC
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Post by Too_Many_Tools
Post by Wayne
# In these days of computerized retail, it is a simple matter to follow
# ammunition to its buyers.
LOL.  Once again proving that you are a dumbass.
Many of those purchases are in cash, and many order are in bulk.  The bulk
orders might be split up between several folks.
Then there are the millions of rounds reloaded at home.  How do you track
those.
As for 6,000 rounds...that isn't very much.  Sounds like the perp wasn't
much of a shooter.
LOL..cash sales are still recorded...and tracked.
Especially after 9/11.
If you think otherwise you are a fool.
LOL

unless it's some worker's paradise like California, there's no
tracking. Nothing recorded indicated the buyer.

Nothing.

It's a mystery, lost forever in the sands of time. Maybe they'd ask
the seller, "Hey do you remember a guy who bought......." and he'd
have to think hard.

Unless it was you. I"m sure they'd remember you. The dress and your
two mommies would make your visit memorable.
Gunner Asch
2012-07-22 23:17:48 UTC
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On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 12:34:44 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Too_Many_Tools
Post by Wayne
# In these days of computerized retail, it is a simple matter to follow
# ammunition to its buyers.
LOL.  Once again proving that you are a dumbass.
Many of those purchases are in cash, and many order are in bulk.  The bulk
orders might be split up between several folks.
Then there are the millions of rounds reloaded at home.  How do you track
those.
As for 6,000 rounds...that isn't very much.  Sounds like the perp wasn't
much of a shooter.
LOL..cash sales are still recorded...and tracked.
Especially after 9/11.
If you think otherwise you are a fool.
LOL
unless it's some worker's paradise like California, there's no
tracking. Nothing recorded indicated the buyer.
Not in California either. They used to track handgun ammo..but that too
has disappeared.
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Nothing.
It's a mystery, lost forever in the sands of time. Maybe they'd ask
the seller, "Hey do you remember a guy who bought......." and he'd
have to think hard.
Unless it was you. I"m sure they'd remember you. The dress and your
two mommies would make your visit memorable.
--
"I was eating breakfast with my 13-year-old granddaughter
and I asked her, "What day is the 20th of February?"

She said "It's President's Day!"
(She is a smart kid.)
I asked "What does President's Day mean?"
I was waiting for something about Washington or Lincoln .... etc.
She replied, "President's Day is when President Obama steps out
of the White House, and if he sees his shadow we have
one more year of unemployment."
You know, it hurts when hot coffee spurts out your nose..."
Wayne
2012-07-22 23:58:12 UTC
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"Gunner Asch" wrote in message news:***@4ax.com...

On Sun, 22 Jul 2012 12:34:44 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Too_Many_Tools
Post by Wayne
# In these days of computerized retail, it is a simple matter to follow
# ammunition to its buyers.
LOL. Once again proving that you are a dumbass.
Many of those purchases are in cash, and many order are in bulk. The bulk
orders might be split up between several folks.
Then there are the millions of rounds reloaded at home. How do you track
those.
As for 6,000 rounds...that isn't very much. Sounds like the perp wasn't
much of a shooter.
LOL..cash sales are still recorded...and tracked.
Especially after 9/11.
If you think otherwise you are a fool.
LOL
unless it's some worker's paradise like California, there's no
tracking. Nothing recorded indicated the buyer.
# Not in California either. They used to track handgun ammo..but that too
# has disappeared.

We escaped that insanity by the skin of our teeth. Gov Arhnold signed an
ammo registration bill into law, and it was successfully overturned in court
as being unconstitutional. It is on appeal, so we may still have this
insanity shoved down our throats.

Then the professional anti-gun nutjob, Senator De Leon, introduced another
bill to attempt to skirt around the law that was overturned. It was passed
by the CA house and senate.

However, a MIRACLE happened. Gov. Moonbeam vetoed the bill because the
prior bill was still on appeal.

As they say in Los Angeles....vamos a ver....
Too_Many_Tools
2012-07-23 00:16:32 UTC
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Post by Too_Many_Tools
Post by Wayne
# In these days of computerized retail, it is a simple matter to follow
# ammunition to its buyers.
LOL.  Once again proving that you are a dumbass.
Many of those purchases are in cash, and many order are in bulk.  The bulk
orders might be split up between several folks.
Then there are the millions of rounds reloaded at home.  How do you track
those.
As for 6,000 rounds...that isn't very much.  Sounds like the perp wasn't
much of a shooter.
LOL..cash sales are still recorded...and tracked.
Especially after 9/11.
If you think otherwise you are a fool.
LOL
unless it's some worker's paradise like California,  there's no
tracking. Nothing recorded indicated the buyer.
Nothing.
It's a mystery, lost forever in the sands of time. Maybe they'd ask
the seller, "Hey do you remember a guy who bought......." and he'd
have to think hard.
Unless it was you. I"m sure they'd remember you. The dress and your
two mommies would make your visit memorable.- Hide quoted text -
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LOL...you just keep thinking that.

And keep posting..please. ;<)

TMT
Alim Nassor
2012-07-23 09:32:56 UTC
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Post by Too_Many_Tools
Post by Too_Many_Tools
Post by Wayne
# In these days of computerized retail, it is a simple matter to follow
# ammunition to its buyers.
LOL.  Once again proving that you are a dumbass.
Many of those purchases are in cash, and many order are in bulk.  The bulk
orders might be split up between several folks.
Then there are the millions of rounds reloaded at home.  How do you track
those.
As for 6,000 rounds...that isn't very much.  Sounds like the perp wasn't
much of a shooter.
LOL..cash sales are still recorded...and tracked.
Especially after 9/11.
If you think otherwise you are a fool.
LOL
unless it's some worker's paradise like California,  there's no
tracking. Nothing recorded indicated the buyer.
Nothing.
It's a mystery, lost forever in the sands of time. Maybe they'd ask
the seller, "Hey do you remember a guy who bought......." and he'd
have to think hard.
Unless it was you. I"m sure they'd remember you. The dress and your
two mommies would make your visit memorable.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
LOL...you just keep thinking that.
And keep posting..please. ;<)
TMT
Oh, please, please enlighten us, tell us how, oh savant, how are they
tracking me at this moment, when I am posting from 10,000 miles
outside the U.S.? How did they manage to track me when I was on my
last home leave and I walked into the McKinney, Texas, Cheaper Than
Dirt store which is 40 miles from home, and bought 3600 rounds of
5.56 mm tracer rounds. They had a decent sale on, 720 rounds per ammo
can for 219 bucks per can. I bought 5 cans. Please tell me how when
I laid down cash to pay, they tracked me? Oh please.
Alim Nassor
2012-07-23 09:25:01 UTC
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Post by Too_Many_Tools
Post by Wayne
# In these days of computerized retail, it is a simple matter to follow
# ammunition to its buyers.
LOL.  Once again proving that you are a dumbass.
Many of those purchases are in cash, and many order are in bulk.  The bulk
orders might be split up between several folks.
Then there are the millions of rounds reloaded at home.  How do you track
those.
As for 6,000 rounds...that isn't very much.  Sounds like the perp wasn't
much of a shooter.
LOL..cash sales are still recorded...and tracked.
Especially after 9/11.
If you think otherwise you are a fool.
TMT
Hmm, so tell me TMfool. How does the pimply face kid at Wal-Mart
record who I am when I pay cash for a few thousand rounds of ammo?
Too_Many_Tools
2012-07-22 18:33:06 UTC
Permalink
Post by Too_Many_Tools
In these days of computerized retail, it is a simple matter to follow
ammunition to its buyers.
Then I am reminded of all these idiot conservatives bragging about all
the ammo they have brought.
Looks like they have been doing the heavy lifting for the Government
to help find out who the potential terrorists are...the idiots with
the excessive amounts of ammo.
So go ahead...buy lots and lots of ammo...and make it on the national
terrorist list.
TMT
Movie theater gunman had been stockpiling arsenal
The Lookout -
(Barry Gutierrez/AP)
AURORA, Colo. — The gunman who blasted his way through a packed movie
house early on Friday, killing 12 people and injuring 58 others, had
apparently been planning his attack for weeks.
"In the last 60 days he purchased four guns at local metro gun shops,
and through the Internet he purchased over 6,000 rounds of
ammunition," Aurora Police Chief Daniel Oates said Friday night.
LOL...always entertaining to see conservatives readily admit how
stupid they are thinking that no one is watching them, tracking their
purchases and logging their movements in this age of data tracking.

One of those traits that we liberals find amusing....kind of like when
monkeys throw feces at each other.

TMT
Klaus Schadenfreude
2012-07-22 19:35:28 UTC
Permalink
Post by Too_Many_Tools
Post by Too_Many_Tools
In these days of computerized retail, it is a simple matter to follow
ammunition to its buyers.
Then I am reminded of all these idiot conservatives bragging about all
the ammo they have brought.
Looks like they have been doing the heavy lifting for the Government
to help find out who the potential terrorists are...the idiots with
the excessive amounts of ammo.
So go ahead...buy lots and lots of ammo...and make it on the national
terrorist list.
TMT
Movie theater gunman had been stockpiling arsenal
The Lookout -
(Barry Gutierrez/AP)
AURORA, Colo. — The gunman who blasted his way through a packed movie
house early on Friday, killing 12 people and injuring 58 others, had
apparently been planning his attack for weeks.
"In the last 60 days he purchased four guns at local metro gun shops,
and through the Internet he purchased over 6,000 rounds of
ammunition," Aurora Police Chief Daniel Oates said Friday night.
LOL...always entertaining to see conservatives readily admit how
stupid they are thinking that no one is watching them,
And then watch TMT blab about how he's so SURE.

And then offer NO evidence.

Just his paranoia.
Alim Nassor
2012-07-23 09:25:58 UTC
Permalink
Post by Too_Many_Tools
Post by Too_Many_Tools
In these days of computerized retail, it is a simple matter to follow
ammunition to its buyers.
Then I am reminded of all these idiot conservatives bragging about all
the ammo they have brought.
Looks like they have been doing the heavy lifting for the Government
to help find out who the potential terrorists are...the idiots with
the excessive amounts of ammo.
So go ahead...buy lots and lots of ammo...and make it on the national
terrorist list.
TMT
Movie theater gunman had been stockpiling arsenal
The Lookout -
(Barry Gutierrez/AP)
AURORA, Colo. — The gunman who blasted his way through a packed movie
house early on Friday, killing 12 people and injuring 58 others, had
apparently been planning his attack for weeks.
"In the last 60 days he purchased four guns at local metro gun shops,
and through the Internet he purchased over 6,000 rounds of
ammunition," Aurora Police Chief Daniel Oates said Friday night.
LOL...always entertaining to see conservatives readily admit how
stupid they are thinking that no one is watching them, tracking their
purchases and logging their movements in this age of data tracking.
One of those traits that we liberals find amusing....kind of like when
monkeys throw feces at each other.
TMT
Please explain for the class, how, if I drive to the Walmart 20 miles
from my house, walk in, pay cash and walk out, how was I monitored,
Please use all the electrons you think you need.
Fair Play
2012-07-23 11:38:06 UTC
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 02:25:58 -0700 (PDT), Alim Nassor
Post by Alim Nassor
Post by Too_Many_Tools
Post by Too_Many_Tools
In these days of computerized retail, it is a simple matter to follow
ammunition to its buyers.
Then I am reminded of all these idiot conservatives bragging about all
the ammo they have brought.
Looks like they have been doing the heavy lifting for the Government
to help find out who the potential terrorists are...the idiots with
the excessive amounts of ammo.
So go ahead...buy lots and lots of ammo...and make it on the national
terrorist list.
TMT
Movie theater gunman had been stockpiling arsenal
The Lookout -
(Barry Gutierrez/AP)
AURORA, Colo. — The gunman who blasted his way through a packed movie
house early on Friday, killing 12 people and injuring 58 others, had
apparently been planning his attack for weeks.
"In the last 60 days he purchased four guns at local metro gun shops,
and through the Internet he purchased over 6,000 rounds of
ammunition," Aurora Police Chief Daniel Oates said Friday night.
LOL...always entertaining to see conservatives readily admit how
stupid they are thinking that no one is watching them, tracking their
purchases and logging their movements in this age of data tracking.
One of those traits that we liberals find amusing....kind of like when
monkeys throw feces at each other.
TMT
Please explain for the class, how, if I drive to the Walmart 20 miles
from my house, walk in, pay cash and walk out, how was I monitored,
Please use all the electrons you think you need.
If they are doing their job properly( a BIG if I grant you),
you have been videoed with face recognition technology
on entry,exit and point of sale.

At the point of sale you have produced your photo ID/Driving license
which is scanned and entered into the system.

Of course Walmart being Walmart...
Alim Nassor
2012-07-23 12:25:20 UTC
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Post by Fair Play
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 02:25:58 -0700 (PDT), Alim Nassor
Post by Alim Nassor
Post by Too_Many_Tools
Post by Too_Many_Tools
In these days of computerized retail, it is a simple matter to follow
ammunition to its buyers.
Then I am reminded of all these idiot conservatives bragging about all
the ammo they have brought.
Looks like they have been doing the heavy lifting for the Government
to help find out who the potential terrorists are...the idiots with
the excessive amounts of ammo.
So go ahead...buy lots and lots of ammo...and make it on the national
terrorist list.
TMT
Movie theater gunman had been stockpiling arsenal
The Lookout -
(Barry Gutierrez/AP)
AURORA, Colo. — The gunman who blasted his way through a packed movie
house early on Friday, killing 12 people and injuring 58 others, had
apparently been planning his attack for weeks.
"In the last 60 days he purchased four guns at local metro gun shops,
and through the Internet he purchased over 6,000 rounds of
ammunition," Aurora Police Chief Daniel Oates said Friday night.
LOL...always entertaining to see conservatives readily admit how
stupid they are thinking that no one is watching them, tracking their
purchases and logging their movements in this age of data tracking.
One of those traits that we liberals find amusing....kind of like when
monkeys throw feces at each other.
TMT
Please explain for the class, how, if I drive to the Walmart 20 miles
from my house, walk in, pay cash and walk out, how was I monitored,
Please use all the electrons you think you need.
If they are doing their job properly( a BIG if I grant you),
you have been videoed with face recognition technology
on entry,exit and point of sale.
At the point of sale you have produced your photo ID/Driving license
which is scanned and entered into the system.
Of course Walmart being Walmart...
I sincerely doubt Wal Mart has face recognition technology in their
stores, and no, I am not required to show my drivers license when
purchasing ammo. The register simply prompts the clerk to ask if i am
of age. I am clearly of age and have never shown any ID.
Fair Play
2012-07-23 13:23:20 UTC
Permalink
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 05:25:20 -0700 (PDT), Alim Nassor
Post by Alim Nassor
Post by Fair Play
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 02:25:58 -0700 (PDT), Alim Nassor
Post by Alim Nassor
Post by Too_Many_Tools
Post by Too_Many_Tools
In these days of computerized retail, it is a simple matter to follow
ammunition to its buyers.
Then I am reminded of all these idiot conservatives bragging about all
the ammo they have brought.
Looks like they have been doing the heavy lifting for the Government
to help find out who the potential terrorists are...the idiots with
the excessive amounts of ammo.
So go ahead...buy lots and lots of ammo...and make it on the national
terrorist list.
TMT
Movie theater gunman had been stockpiling arsenal
The Lookout -
(Barry Gutierrez/AP)
AURORA, Colo. — The gunman who blasted his way through a packed movie
house early on Friday, killing 12 people and injuring 58 others, had
apparently been planning his attack for weeks.
"In the last 60 days he purchased four guns at local metro gun shops,
and through the Internet he purchased over 6,000 rounds of
ammunition," Aurora Police Chief Daniel Oates said Friday night.
LOL...always entertaining to see conservatives readily admit how
stupid they are thinking that no one is watching them, tracking their
purchases and logging their movements in this age of data tracking.
One of those traits that we liberals find amusing....kind of like when
monkeys throw feces at each other.
TMT
Please explain for the class, how, if I drive to the Walmart 20 miles
from my house, walk in, pay cash and walk out, how was I monitored,
Please use all the electrons you think you need.
If they are doing their job properly( a BIG if I grant you),
you have been videoed with face recognition technology
on entry,exit and point of sale.
At the point of sale you have produced your photo ID/Driving license
which is scanned and entered into the system.
Of course Walmart being Walmart...
I sincerely doubt Wal Mart has face recognition technology in their
stores,
Why would you doubt they have FR in their surveillance systems?

They have gait recognition in them and possess one of the most
advanced surveillance systems in the world developed in Walmart China
with a gigantic database centered in Bentonville.

There are many reports of banned shoplifters being arrested for
trespassing on the spot when entering other branches.

Walmart's face recognition cameras

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110410100734AAw2Vlm

I was caught stealing at Walmart, and luckily the guy let me off with
out calling the cops or anything. But he said that he logged my face
on there cameras and every time i walk in to walmart from now on they
will automatically zoom in on my face and watch me. I feel really bad,
and i never stole anything before, so this is really eating away at
me. I'm 17. Do they have the technology to recognize my face every
time i walk in? If they do, will my face be logged for a limited time
or forever?

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Don't get me wrong, I'm not criticizing. I'm glad they caught me, it
was a HUGE wake-up call. I won't even consider thinking about doing it
again. But i don't know how long they are going to have to watch for
me on the cameras.

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yes it's true,

http://alienpet13.com/2011/01/18/walmart…

face recognition camera's have been in usage for a long time, because
of people stealing. you will be tracked through the store as soon as
you enter to the time you leave, and it will probably be like that for
quite a few years.
Post by Alim Nassor
and no, I am not required to show my drivers license when
purchasing ammo. The register simply prompts the clerk to ask if i am
of age. I am clearly of age and have never shown any ID.
In practice it's patchy just like cigarette and alcohol purchases,
that's what I meant by Walmart being Walmart, but that's the policy.

If Walmart merges with Facebook you can forget all about anonymous
cash sales.

Facebook and Wal-Mart Join Forces

http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/07/20/1241223/facebook-and-wal-mart-join-forces

"Wal-Mart — the retail king of Big Data analytics — will be meeting
Mark Zuckerberg for two days in Bentonville, to 'deepen' their
relationship with Facebook.

The CEO-level strategy summit is intended to bolster the relationship
between the world's No. 1 social network and the world's largest
retailer. Wal-Mart has been left in the dust online by the behemoth
Amazon. An alliance may be poised to challenge this dominance,
particularly in light of Amazon's planned foray into same-day delivery
nationwide. The companies share James Breyer, who sits on the boards
of both Facebook and Wal-Mart.

Adding another angle to this, Yahoo's new CEO, Marissa Mayer, was
elected to Wal-Mart's board in early June, while she was still at
Google. Earlier this month, Facebook and Yahoo settled a patent
dispute and announced plans to form another 'strategic alliance'
involving advertising and distribution.

The implications for online privacy in this series of relationships
are uncertain."
Klaus Schadenfreude
2012-07-23 13:27:21 UTC
Permalink
Post by Fair Play
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 05:25:20 -0700 (PDT), Alim Nassor
Post by Alim Nassor
Post by Fair Play
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 02:25:58 -0700 (PDT), Alim Nassor
Post by Alim Nassor
Post by Too_Many_Tools
Post by Too_Many_Tools
In these days of computerized retail, it is a simple matter to follow
ammunition to its buyers.
Then I am reminded of all these idiot conservatives bragging about all
the ammo they have brought.
Looks like they have been doing the heavy lifting for the Government
to help find out who the potential terrorists are...the idiots with
the excessive amounts of ammo.
So go ahead...buy lots and lots of ammo...and make it on the national
terrorist list.
TMT
Movie theater gunman had been stockpiling arsenal
The Lookout -
(Barry Gutierrez/AP)
AURORA, Colo. — The gunman who blasted his way through a packed movie
house early on Friday, killing 12 people and injuring 58 others, had
apparently been planning his attack for weeks.
"In the last 60 days he purchased four guns at local metro gun shops,
and through the Internet he purchased over 6,000 rounds of
ammunition," Aurora Police Chief Daniel Oates said Friday night.
LOL...always entertaining to see conservatives readily admit how
stupid they are thinking that no one is watching them, tracking their
purchases and logging their movements in this age of data tracking.
One of those traits that we liberals find amusing....kind of like when
monkeys throw feces at each other.
TMT
Please explain for the class, how, if I drive to the Walmart 20 miles
from my house, walk in, pay cash and walk out, how was I monitored,
Please use all the electrons you think you need.
If they are doing their job properly( a BIG if I grant you),
you have been videoed with face recognition technology
on entry,exit and point of sale.
At the point of sale you have produced your photo ID/Driving license
which is scanned and entered into the system.
Of course Walmart being Walmart...
I sincerely doubt Wal Mart has face recognition technology in their
stores,
Why would you doubt they have FR in their surveillance systems?
They have gait recognition in them and possess one of the most
advanced surveillance systems in the world developed in Walmart China
with a gigantic database centered in Bentonville.
There are many reports of banned shoplifters being arrested for
trespassing on the spot when entering other branches.
Walmart's face recognition cameras
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110410100734AAw2Vlm
http://alienpet13.com/2011/01/18/walmart…
Your sources are..... Yahoo answers and alienpet13.com

I see.

Nothing from the spaceship that crashed at the secret Arctic Nazi
base?

[chuckle]
Fair Play
2012-07-23 14:02:22 UTC
Permalink
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 06:27:21 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Fair Play
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 05:25:20 -0700 (PDT), Alim Nassor
Post by Alim Nassor
Post by Fair Play
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 02:25:58 -0700 (PDT), Alim Nassor
Post by Alim Nassor
Post by Too_Many_Tools
Post by Too_Many_Tools
In these days of computerized retail, it is a simple matter to follow
ammunition to its buyers.
Then I am reminded of all these idiot conservatives bragging about all
the ammo they have brought.
Looks like they have been doing the heavy lifting for the Government
to help find out who the potential terrorists are...the idiots with
the excessive amounts of ammo.
So go ahead...buy lots and lots of ammo...and make it on the national
terrorist list.
TMT
Movie theater gunman had been stockpiling arsenal
The Lookout -
(Barry Gutierrez/AP)
AURORA, Colo. — The gunman who blasted his way through a packed movie
house early on Friday, killing 12 people and injuring 58 others, had
apparently been planning his attack for weeks.
"In the last 60 days he purchased four guns at local metro gun shops,
and through the Internet he purchased over 6,000 rounds of
ammunition," Aurora Police Chief Daniel Oates said Friday night.
LOL...always entertaining to see conservatives readily admit how
stupid they are thinking that no one is watching them, tracking their
purchases and logging their movements in this age of data tracking.
One of those traits that we liberals find amusing....kind of like when
monkeys throw feces at each other.
TMT
Please explain for the class, how, if I drive to the Walmart 20 miles
from my house, walk in, pay cash and walk out, how was I monitored,
Please use all the electrons you think you need.
If they are doing their job properly( a BIG if I grant you),
you have been videoed with face recognition technology
on entry,exit and point of sale.
At the point of sale you have produced your photo ID/Driving license
which is scanned and entered into the system.
Of course Walmart being Walmart...
I sincerely doubt Wal Mart has face recognition technology in their
stores,
Why would you doubt they have FR in their surveillance systems?
They have gait recognition in them and possess one of the most
advanced surveillance systems in the world developed in Walmart China
with a gigantic database centered in Bentonville.
There are many reports of banned shoplifters being arrested for
trespassing on the spot when entering other branches.
Walmart's face recognition cameras
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110410100734AAw2Vlm
http://alienpet13.com/2011/01/18/walmart…
Your sources are..... Yahoo answers and alienpet13.com
I see.
Nothing from the spaceship that crashed at the secret Arctic Nazi
base?
NO, that's simply one anecdote from a Walmart security guard given as
an example of thousands for anyone that's interested, which excludes
you.

They don't publish their security policies for reasons obvious to
anyone but a troll such as yourself.

Do you really imagine they sell FR without using it themselves?
Klaus Schadenfreude
2012-07-23 14:08:59 UTC
Permalink
Post by Fair Play
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 06:27:21 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Fair Play
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 05:25:20 -0700 (PDT), Alim Nassor
Post by Alim Nassor
Post by Fair Play
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 02:25:58 -0700 (PDT), Alim Nassor
Post by Alim Nassor
Post by Too_Many_Tools
Post by Too_Many_Tools
In these days of computerized retail, it is a simple matter to follow
ammunition to its buyers.
Then I am reminded of all these idiot conservatives bragging about all
the ammo they have brought.
Looks like they have been doing the heavy lifting for the Government
to help find out who the potential terrorists are...the idiots with
the excessive amounts of ammo.
So go ahead...buy lots and lots of ammo...and make it on the national
terrorist list.
TMT
Movie theater gunman had been stockpiling arsenal
The Lookout -
(Barry Gutierrez/AP)
AURORA, Colo. — The gunman who blasted his way through a packed movie
house early on Friday, killing 12 people and injuring 58 others, had
apparently been planning his attack for weeks.
"In the last 60 days he purchased four guns at local metro gun shops,
and through the Internet he purchased over 6,000 rounds of
ammunition," Aurora Police Chief Daniel Oates said Friday night.
LOL...always entertaining to see conservatives readily admit how
stupid they are thinking that no one is watching them, tracking their
purchases and logging their movements in this age of data tracking.
One of those traits that we liberals find amusing....kind of like when
monkeys throw feces at each other.
TMT
Please explain for the class, how, if I drive to the Walmart 20 miles
from my house, walk in, pay cash and walk out, how was I monitored,
Please use all the electrons you think you need.
If they are doing their job properly( a BIG if I grant you),
you have been videoed with face recognition technology
on entry,exit and point of sale.
At the point of sale you have produced your photo ID/Driving license
which is scanned and entered into the system.
Of course Walmart being Walmart...
I sincerely doubt Wal Mart has face recognition technology in their
stores,
Why would you doubt they have FR in their surveillance systems?
They have gait recognition in them and possess one of the most
advanced surveillance systems in the world developed in Walmart China
with a gigantic database centered in Bentonville.
There are many reports of banned shoplifters being arrested for
trespassing on the spot when entering other branches.
Walmart's face recognition cameras
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110410100734AAw2Vlm
http://alienpet13.com/2011/01/18/walmart…
Your sources are..... Yahoo answers and alienpet13.com
I see.
Nothing from the spaceship that crashed at the secret Arctic Nazi
base?
NO, that's simply one anecdote from a Walmart security guard given as
an example of thousands for anyone that's interested, which excludes
you.
So anecdotes are all you have. I see.
Post by Fair Play
They don't publish their security policies for reasons obvious to
anyone but a troll such as yourself.
I didn't think they would. However, it wouldn't be a secret, either,
give the size of their organization.
Post by Fair Play
Do you really imagine they sell FR without using it themselves?
Walmart sells FR? I did not know that.
Fair Play
2012-07-23 14:30:15 UTC
Permalink
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 07:08:59 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Fair Play
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 06:27:21 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Fair Play
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 05:25:20 -0700 (PDT), Alim Nassor
Post by Alim Nassor
Post by Fair Play
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 02:25:58 -0700 (PDT), Alim Nassor
Post by Alim Nassor
Post by Too_Many_Tools
Post by Too_Many_Tools
In these days of computerized retail, it is a simple matter to follow
ammunition to its buyers.
Then I am reminded of all these idiot conservatives bragging about all
the ammo they have brought.
Looks like they have been doing the heavy lifting for the Government
to help find out who the potential terrorists are...the idiots with
the excessive amounts of ammo.
So go ahead...buy lots and lots of ammo...and make it on the national
terrorist list.
TMT
Movie theater gunman had been stockpiling arsenal
The Lookout -
(Barry Gutierrez/AP)
AURORA, Colo. — The gunman who blasted his way through a packed movie
house early on Friday, killing 12 people and injuring 58 others, had
apparently been planning his attack for weeks.
"In the last 60 days he purchased four guns at local metro gun shops,
and through the Internet he purchased over 6,000 rounds of
ammunition," Aurora Police Chief Daniel Oates said Friday night.
LOL...always entertaining to see conservatives readily admit how
stupid they are thinking that no one is watching them, tracking their
purchases and logging their movements in this age of data tracking.
One of those traits that we liberals find amusing....kind of like when
monkeys throw feces at each other.
TMT
Please explain for the class, how, if I drive to the Walmart 20 miles
from my house, walk in, pay cash and walk out, how was I monitored,
Please use all the electrons you think you need.
If they are doing their job properly( a BIG if I grant you),
you have been videoed with face recognition technology
on entry,exit and point of sale.
At the point of sale you have produced your photo ID/Driving license
which is scanned and entered into the system.
Of course Walmart being Walmart...
I sincerely doubt Wal Mart has face recognition technology in their
stores,
Why would you doubt they have FR in their surveillance systems?
They have gait recognition in them and possess one of the most
advanced surveillance systems in the world developed in Walmart China
with a gigantic database centered in Bentonville.
There are many reports of banned shoplifters being arrested for
trespassing on the spot when entering other branches.
Walmart's face recognition cameras
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110410100734AAw2Vlm
http://alienpet13.com/2011/01/18/walmart…
Your sources are..... Yahoo answers and alienpet13.com
I see.
Nothing from the spaceship that crashed at the secret Arctic Nazi
base?
NO, that's simply one anecdote from a Walmart security guard given as
an example of thousands for anyone that's interested, which excludes
you.
So anecdotes are all you have. I see.
Post by Fair Play
They don't publish their security policies for reasons obvious to
anyone but a troll such as yourself.
I didn't think they would. However, it wouldn't be a secret, either,
give the size of their organization.
It isn't.
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Fair Play
Do you really imagine they sell FR without using it themselves?
Walmart sells FR? I did not know that.
There's a lot you don't know.
That's what happens when you robotically respond to shit you have made
up yourself rather than what people are actually trying to tell you.

So have it your own way.

carry on believing they don't have facial and gait recognition
systems.
Klaus Schadenfreude
2012-07-23 19:28:40 UTC
Permalink
Post by Fair Play
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 07:08:59 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Fair Play
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 06:27:21 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Fair Play
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 05:25:20 -0700 (PDT), Alim Nassor
Post by Alim Nassor
Post by Fair Play
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 02:25:58 -0700 (PDT), Alim Nassor
Post by Alim Nassor
Post by Too_Many_Tools
Post by Too_Many_Tools
In these days of computerized retail, it is a simple matter to follow
ammunition to its buyers.
Then I am reminded of all these idiot conservatives bragging about all
the ammo they have brought.
Looks like they have been doing the heavy lifting for the Government
to help find out who the potential terrorists are...the idiots with
the excessive amounts of ammo.
So go ahead...buy lots and lots of ammo...and make it on the national
terrorist list.
TMT
Movie theater gunman had been stockpiling arsenal
The Lookout -
(Barry Gutierrez/AP)
AURORA, Colo. — The gunman who blasted his way through a packed movie
house early on Friday, killing 12 people and injuring 58 others, had
apparently been planning his attack for weeks.
"In the last 60 days he purchased four guns at local metro gun shops,
and through the Internet he purchased over 6,000 rounds of
ammunition," Aurora Police Chief Daniel Oates said Friday night.
LOL...always entertaining to see conservatives readily admit how
stupid they are thinking that no one is watching them, tracking their
purchases and logging their movements in this age of data tracking.
One of those traits that we liberals find amusing....kind of like when
monkeys throw feces at each other.
TMT
Please explain for the class, how, if I drive to the Walmart 20 miles
from my house, walk in, pay cash and walk out, how was I monitored,
Please use all the electrons you think you need.
If they are doing their job properly( a BIG if I grant you),
you have been videoed with face recognition technology
on entry,exit and point of sale.
At the point of sale you have produced your photo ID/Driving license
which is scanned and entered into the system.
Of course Walmart being Walmart...
I sincerely doubt Wal Mart has face recognition technology in their
stores,
Why would you doubt they have FR in their surveillance systems?
They have gait recognition in them and possess one of the most
advanced surveillance systems in the world developed in Walmart China
with a gigantic database centered in Bentonville.
There are many reports of banned shoplifters being arrested for
trespassing on the spot when entering other branches.
Walmart's face recognition cameras
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110410100734AAw2Vlm
http://alienpet13.com/2011/01/18/walmart…
Your sources are..... Yahoo answers and alienpet13.com
I see.
Nothing from the spaceship that crashed at the secret Arctic Nazi
base?
NO, that's simply one anecdote from a Walmart security guard given as
an example of thousands for anyone that's interested, which excludes
you.
So anecdotes are all you have. I see.
Post by Fair Play
They don't publish their security policies for reasons obvious to
anyone but a troll such as yourself.
I didn't think they would. However, it wouldn't be a secret, either,
give the size of their organization.
It isn't.
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Fair Play
Do you really imagine they sell FR without using it themselves?
Walmart sells FR? I did not know that.
There's a lot you don't know.
http://www.walmart.com/search/search-ng.do?search_query=facial+recognition&ic=16_0&Find=Find&search_constraint=0

I don't see it for sale here. Where is it?
Alim Nassor
2012-07-24 05:25:41 UTC
Permalink
Post by Fair Play
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 05:25:20 -0700 (PDT), Alim Nassor
Post by Fair Play
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 02:25:58 -0700 (PDT), Alim Nassor
Post by Alim Nassor
Post by Too_Many_Tools
Post by Too_Many_Tools
In these days of computerized retail, it is a simple matter to follow
ammunition to its buyers.
Then I am reminded of all these idiot conservatives bragging about all
the ammo they have brought.
Looks like they have been doing the heavy lifting for the Government
to help find out who the potential terrorists are...the idiots with
the excessive amounts of ammo.
So go ahead...buy lots and lots of ammo...and make it on the national
terrorist list.
TMT
Movie theater gunman had been stockpiling arsenal
The Lookout -
(Barry Gutierrez/AP)
AURORA, Colo. The gunman who blasted his way through a packed movie
house early on Friday, killing 12 people and injuring 58 others, had
apparently been planning his attack for weeks.
"In the last 60 days he purchased four guns at local metro gun shops,
and through the Internet he purchased over 6,000 rounds of
ammunition," Aurora Police Chief Daniel Oates said Friday night.
LOL...always entertaining to see conservatives readily admit how
stupid they are thinking that no one is watching them, tracking their
purchases and logging their movements in this age of data tracking.
One of those traits that we liberals find amusing....kind of like when
monkeys throw feces at each other.
TMT
Please explain for the class, how, if I drive to the Walmart 20 miles
from my house, walk in, pay cash and walk out, how was I monitored,
Please use all the electrons you think you need.
If they are doing their job properly( a BIG if I grant you),
you have been videoed with face recognition technology
on entry,exit and point of sale.
At the point of sale you have produced your photo ID/Driving license
which is scanned and entered into the system.
Of course Walmart being Walmart...
I sincerely doubt Wal Mart has  face recognition technology in their
stores,
Why would you doubt they  have FR in their surveillance systems?
They have gait recognition in them and possess  one of the most
advanced surveillance systems in the world developed in Walmart China
with a gigantic database centered in Bentonville.
There are many reports of banned shoplifters being arrested for
trespassing on the spot when entering other branches.
Walmart's face recognition cameras
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110410100734AAw2Vlm
I was caught stealing at Walmart, and luckily the guy let me off with
out calling the cops or anything. But he said that he logged my face
on there cameras and every time i walk in to walmart from now on they
will automatically zoom in on my face and watch me. I feel really bad,
and i never stole anything before, so this is really eating away at
me. I'm 17. Do they have the technology to recognize my face every
time i walk in? If they do, will my face be logged for a limited time
or forever?
    1 year ago
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Don't get me wrong, I'm not criticizing. I'm glad they caught me, it
was a HUGE wake-up call. I won't even consider thinking about doing it
again. But i don't know how long they are going to have to watch for
me on the cameras.
1 year ago
Insane_mad_maniak Insane_m...
Best Answer - Chosen by Voters
yes it's true,
http://alienpet13.com/2011/01/18/walmart
face recognition camera's have been in usage for a long time, because
of people stealing. you will be tracked through the store as soon as
you enter to the time you leave, and it will probably be like that for
quite a few years.
and no, I am not required to show my drivers license when
purchasing ammo.  The register simply prompts the clerk to ask if i am
of age.  I am clearly of age and have never shown any ID.
In practice it's patchy just like cigarette and alcohol purchases,
that's what I meant by Walmart being Walmart, but that's the policy.
If Walmart merges with Facebook you can forget all about anonymous
cash sales.
Facebook and Wal-Mart Join Forces
http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/07/20/1241223/facebook-and-wal-mart-...
"Wal-Mart the retail king of Big Data analytics will be meeting
Mark Zuckerberg for two days in Bentonville, to 'deepen' their
relationship with Facebook.
 The CEO-level strategy summit is intended to bolster the relationship
between the world's No. 1 social network and the world's largest
retailer. Wal-Mart has been left in the dust online by the behemoth
Amazon. An alliance may be poised to challenge this dominance,
particularly in light of Amazon's planned foray into same-day delivery
nationwide. The companies share James Breyer, who sits on the boards
of both Facebook and Wal-Mart.
 Adding another angle to this, Yahoo's new CEO, Marissa Mayer, was
elected to Wal-Mart's board in early June, while she was still at
Google. Earlier this month, Facebook and Yahoo settled a patent
dispute and announced plans to form another 'strategic alliance'
involving advertising and distribution.
The implications for online privacy in this series of relationships
are uncertain."
If true they use it, I'll simply shop somewhere else. They still
would not know who i was, since I provide no ID at checkout.
Scout
2012-07-24 05:37:07 UTC
Permalink
Post by Alim Nassor
Post by Fair Play
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 05:25:20 -0700 (PDT), Alim Nassor
Post by Alim Nassor
Post by Fair Play
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 02:25:58 -0700 (PDT), Alim Nassor
Post by Alim Nassor
Post by Too_Many_Tools
Post by Too_Many_Tools
In these days of computerized retail, it is a simple matter to follow
ammunition to its buyers.
Then I am reminded of all these idiot conservatives bragging about all
the ammo they have brought.
Looks like they have been doing the heavy lifting for the Government
to help find out who the potential terrorists are...the idiots with
the excessive amounts of ammo.
So go ahead...buy lots and lots of ammo...and make it on the national
terrorist list.
TMT
Movie theater gunman had been stockpiling arsenal
The Lookout -
(Barry Gutierrez/AP)
AURORA, Colo. The gunman who blasted his way through a packed movie
house early on Friday, killing 12 people and injuring 58 others, had
apparently been planning his attack for weeks.
"In the last 60 days he purchased four guns at local metro gun shops,
and through the Internet he purchased over 6,000 rounds of
ammunition," Aurora Police Chief Daniel Oates said Friday night.
LOL...always entertaining to see conservatives readily admit how
stupid they are thinking that no one is watching them, tracking their
purchases and logging their movements in this age of data tracking.
One of those traits that we liberals find amusing....kind of like when
monkeys throw feces at each other.
TMT
Please explain for the class, how, if I drive to the Walmart 20 miles
from my house, walk in, pay cash and walk out, how was I monitored,
Please use all the electrons you think you need.
If they are doing their job properly( a BIG if I grant you),
you have been videoed with face recognition technology
on entry,exit and point of sale.
At the point of sale you have produced your photo ID/Driving license
which is scanned and entered into the system.
Of course Walmart being Walmart...
I sincerely doubt Wal Mart has face recognition technology in their
stores,
Why would you doubt they have FR in their surveillance systems?
They have gait recognition in them and possess one of the most
advanced surveillance systems in the world developed in Walmart China
with a gigantic database centered in Bentonville.
There are many reports of banned shoplifters being arrested for
trespassing on the spot when entering other branches.
Walmart's face recognition cameras
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110410100734AAw2Vlm
I was caught stealing at Walmart, and luckily the guy let me off with
out calling the cops or anything. But he said that he logged my face
on there cameras and every time i walk in to walmart from now on they
will automatically zoom in on my face and watch me. I feel really bad,
and i never stole anything before, so this is really eating away at
me. I'm 17. Do they have the technology to recognize my face every
time i walk in? If they do, will my face be logged for a limited time
or forever?
1 year ago
Report Abuse
Additional Details
Don't get me wrong, I'm not criticizing. I'm glad they caught me, it
was a HUGE wake-up call. I won't even consider thinking about doing it
again. But i don't know how long they are going to have to watch for
me on the cameras.
1 year ago
Insane_mad_maniak Insane_m...
Best Answer - Chosen by Voters
yes it's true,
http://alienpet13.com/2011/01/18/walmart
face recognition camera's have been in usage for a long time, because
of people stealing. you will be tracked through the store as soon as
you enter to the time you leave, and it will probably be like that for
quite a few years.
Post by Alim Nassor
and no, I am not required to show my drivers license when
purchasing ammo. The register simply prompts the clerk to ask if i am
of age. I am clearly of age and have never shown any ID.
In practice it's patchy just like cigarette and alcohol purchases,
that's what I meant by Walmart being Walmart, but that's the policy.
If Walmart merges with Facebook you can forget all about anonymous
cash sales.
Facebook and Wal-Mart Join Forces
http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/07/20/1241223/facebook-and-wal-mart-...
"Wal-Mart the retail king of Big Data analytics will be meeting
Mark Zuckerberg for two days in Bentonville, to 'deepen' their
relationship with Facebook.
The CEO-level strategy summit is intended to bolster the relationship
between the world's No. 1 social network and the world's largest
retailer. Wal-Mart has been left in the dust online by the behemoth
Amazon. An alliance may be poised to challenge this dominance,
particularly in light of Amazon's planned foray into same-day delivery
nationwide. The companies share James Breyer, who sits on the boards
of both Facebook and Wal-Mart.
Adding another angle to this, Yahoo's new CEO, Marissa Mayer, was
elected to Wal-Mart's board in early June, while she was still at
Google. Earlier this month, Facebook and Yahoo settled a patent
dispute and announced plans to form another 'strategic alliance'
involving advertising and distribution.
The implications for online privacy in this series of relationships
are uncertain."
If true they use it, I'll simply shop somewhere else. They still
would not know who i was, since I provide no ID at checkout.
Personally, I suspect it's more of a case of security working to scare the
crap out of the guy by saying whatever whether they could do so or not.
Gunner Asch
2012-07-24 08:06:34 UTC
Permalink
On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 01:37:07 -0400, "Scout"
Post by Scout
Post by Alim Nassor
Post by Fair Play
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 05:25:20 -0700 (PDT), Alim Nassor
Post by Alim Nassor
Post by Fair Play
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 02:25:58 -0700 (PDT), Alim Nassor
Post by Alim Nassor
Post by Too_Many_Tools
Post by Too_Many_Tools
In these days of computerized retail, it is a simple matter to follow
ammunition to its buyers.
Then I am reminded of all these idiot conservatives bragging about all
the ammo they have brought.
Looks like they have been doing the heavy lifting for the Government
to help find out who the potential terrorists are...the idiots with
the excessive amounts of ammo.
So go ahead...buy lots and lots of ammo...and make it on the national
terrorist list.
TMT
Movie theater gunman had been stockpiling arsenal
The Lookout -
(Barry Gutierrez/AP)
AURORA, Colo. The gunman who blasted his way through a packed movie
house early on Friday, killing 12 people and injuring 58 others, had
apparently been planning his attack for weeks.
"In the last 60 days he purchased four guns at local metro gun shops,
and through the Internet he purchased over 6,000 rounds of
ammunition," Aurora Police Chief Daniel Oates said Friday night.
LOL...always entertaining to see conservatives readily admit how
stupid they are thinking that no one is watching them, tracking their
purchases and logging their movements in this age of data tracking.
One of those traits that we liberals find amusing....kind of like when
monkeys throw feces at each other.
TMT
Please explain for the class, how, if I drive to the Walmart 20 miles
from my house, walk in, pay cash and walk out, how was I monitored,
Please use all the electrons you think you need.
If they are doing their job properly( a BIG if I grant you),
you have been videoed with face recognition technology
on entry,exit and point of sale.
At the point of sale you have produced your photo ID/Driving license
which is scanned and entered into the system.
Of course Walmart being Walmart...
I sincerely doubt Wal Mart has face recognition technology in their
stores,
Why would you doubt they have FR in their surveillance systems?
They have gait recognition in them and possess one of the most
advanced surveillance systems in the world developed in Walmart China
with a gigantic database centered in Bentonville.
There are many reports of banned shoplifters being arrested for
trespassing on the spot when entering other branches.
Walmart's face recognition cameras
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110410100734AAw2Vlm
I was caught stealing at Walmart, and luckily the guy let me off with
out calling the cops or anything. But he said that he logged my face
on there cameras and every time i walk in to walmart from now on they
will automatically zoom in on my face and watch me. I feel really bad,
and i never stole anything before, so this is really eating away at
me. I'm 17. Do they have the technology to recognize my face every
time i walk in? If they do, will my face be logged for a limited time
or forever?
1 year ago
Report Abuse
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Don't get me wrong, I'm not criticizing. I'm glad they caught me, it
was a HUGE wake-up call. I won't even consider thinking about doing it
again. But i don't know how long they are going to have to watch for
me on the cameras.
1 year ago
Insane_mad_maniak Insane_m...
Best Answer - Chosen by Voters
yes it's true,
http://alienpet13.com/2011/01/18/walmart
face recognition camera's have been in usage for a long time, because
of people stealing. you will be tracked through the store as soon as
you enter to the time you leave, and it will probably be like that for
quite a few years.
Post by Alim Nassor
and no, I am not required to show my drivers license when
purchasing ammo. The register simply prompts the clerk to ask if i am
of age. I am clearly of age and have never shown any ID.
In practice it's patchy just like cigarette and alcohol purchases,
that's what I meant by Walmart being Walmart, but that's the policy.
If Walmart merges with Facebook you can forget all about anonymous
cash sales.
Facebook and Wal-Mart Join Forces
http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/07/20/1241223/facebook-and-wal-mart-...
"Wal-Mart the retail king of Big Data analytics will be meeting
Mark Zuckerberg for two days in Bentonville, to 'deepen' their
relationship with Facebook.
The CEO-level strategy summit is intended to bolster the relationship
between the world's No. 1 social network and the world's largest
retailer. Wal-Mart has been left in the dust online by the behemoth
Amazon. An alliance may be poised to challenge this dominance,
particularly in light of Amazon's planned foray into same-day delivery
nationwide. The companies share James Breyer, who sits on the boards
of both Facebook and Wal-Mart.
Adding another angle to this, Yahoo's new CEO, Marissa Mayer, was
elected to Wal-Mart's board in early June, while she was still at
Google. Earlier this month, Facebook and Yahoo settled a patent
dispute and announced plans to form another 'strategic alliance'
involving advertising and distribution.
The implications for online privacy in this series of relationships
are uncertain."
If true they use it, I'll simply shop somewhere else. They still
would not know who i was, since I provide no ID at checkout.
Personally, I suspect it's more of a case of security working to scare the
crap out of the guy by saying whatever whether they could do so or not.
Having Wallyworld using such software doesnt bother me a bit. Its their
right to do just that.

Now..the government on the other hand....brrrrrr!

Gunner

--
"I was eating breakfast with my 13-year-old granddaughter
and I asked her, "What day is the 20th of February?"

She said "It's President's Day!"
(She is a smart kid.)
I asked "What does President's Day mean?"
I was waiting for something about Washington or Lincoln .... etc.
She replied, "President's Day is when President Obama steps out
of the White House, and if he sees his shadow we have
one more year of unemployment."
You know, it hurts when hot coffee spurts out your nose..."
pyotr filipivich
2012-07-24 17:29:07 UTC
Permalink
Post by Gunner Asch
Post by Scout
Post by Alim Nassor
If true they use it, I'll simply shop somewhere else. They still
would not know who i was, since I provide no ID at checkout.
Personally, I suspect it's more of a case of security working to scare the
crap out of the guy by saying whatever whether they could do so or not.
Having Wallyworld using such software doesnt bother me a bit. Its their
right to do just that.
Now..the government on the other hand....brrrrrr!
Is interstink, Comrade, how progressives have no problem with the
Government tracking people, but freak out if a corporation does.
--
pyotr filipivich
Most journalists these days couldn't investigate a missing chocolate cake
at a pre-school without a Democrat office holder telling them what to look for,
where, and why it is Geroge Bush's fault.
Too_Many_Tools
2012-07-24 17:52:22 UTC
Permalink
Post by Gunner Asch
On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 01:37:07 -0400, "Scout"
Post by Scout
Post by Fair Play
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 05:25:20 -0700 (PDT), Alim Nassor
Post by Fair Play
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 02:25:58 -0700 (PDT), Alim Nassor
Post by Alim Nassor
Post by Too_Many_Tools
Post by Too_Many_Tools
In these days of computerized retail, it is a simple matter to
follow
ammunition to its buyers.
Then I am reminded of all these idiot conservatives bragging
about all
the ammo they have brought.
Looks like they have been doing the heavy lifting for the
Government
to help find out who the potential terrorists are...the idiots with
the excessive amounts of ammo.
So go ahead...buy lots and lots of ammo...and make it on the
national
terrorist list.
TMT
Movie theater gunman had been stockpiling arsenal
The Lookout -
(Barry Gutierrez/AP)
AURORA, Colo. The gunman who blasted his way through a packed movie
house early on Friday, killing 12 people and injuring 58 others,
had
apparently been planning his attack for weeks.
"In the last 60 days he purchased four guns at local metro gun
shops,
and through the Internet he purchased over 6,000 rounds of
ammunition," Aurora Police Chief Daniel Oates said Friday night.
LOL...always entertaining to see conservatives readily admit how
stupid they are thinking that no one is watching them, tracking their
purchases and logging their movements in this age of data tracking.
One of those traits that we liberals find amusing....kind of like when
monkeys throw feces at each other.
TMT
Please explain for the class, how, if I drive to the Walmart 20 miles
from my house, walk in, pay cash and walk out, how was I monitored,
Please use all the electrons you think you need.
If they are doing their job properly( a BIG if I grant you),
you have been videoed with face recognition technology
on entry,exit and point of sale.
At the point of sale you have produced your photo ID/Driving license
which is scanned and entered into the system.
Of course Walmart being Walmart...
I sincerely doubt Wal Mart has  face recognition technology in their
stores,
Why would you doubt they  have FR in their surveillance systems?
They have gait recognition in them and possess  one of the most
advanced surveillance systems in the world developed in Walmart China
with a gigantic database centered in Bentonville.
There are many reports of banned shoplifters being arrested for
trespassing on the spot when entering other branches.
Walmart's face recognition cameras
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110410100734AAw2Vlm
I was caught stealing at Walmart, and luckily the guy let me off with
out calling the cops or anything. But he said that he logged my face
on there cameras and every time i walk in to walmart from now on they
will automatically zoom in on my face and watch me. I feel really bad,
and i never stole anything before, so this is really eating away at
me. I'm 17. Do they have the technology to recognize my face every
time i walk in? If they do, will my face be logged for a limited time
or forever?
    1 year ago
    Report Abuse
Additional Details
Don't get me wrong, I'm not criticizing. I'm glad they caught me, it
was a HUGE wake-up call. I won't even consider thinking about doing it
again. But i don't know how long they are going to have to watch for
me on the cameras.
1 year ago
Insane_mad_maniak Insane_m...
Best Answer - Chosen by Voters
yes it's true,
http://alienpet13.com/2011/01/18/walmart
face recognition camera's have been in usage for a long time, because
of people stealing. you will be tracked through the store as soon as
you enter to the time you leave, and it will probably be like that for
quite a few years.
and no, I am not required to show my drivers license when
purchasing ammo.  The register simply prompts the clerk to ask if i am
of age.  I am clearly of age and have never shown any ID.
In practice it's patchy just like cigarette and alcohol purchases,
that's what I meant by Walmart being Walmart, but that's the policy.
If Walmart merges with Facebook you can forget all about anonymous
cash sales.
Facebook and Wal-Mart Join Forces
http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/07/20/1241223/facebook-and-wal-mart-...
"Wal-Mart the retail king of Big Data analytics will be meeting
Mark Zuckerberg for two days in Bentonville, to 'deepen' their
relationship with Facebook.
 The CEO-level strategy summit is intended to bolster the relationship
between the world's No. 1 social network and the world's largest
retailer. Wal-Mart has been left in the dust online by the behemoth
Amazon. An alliance may be poised to challenge this dominance,
particularly in light of Amazon's planned foray into same-day delivery
nationwide. The companies share James Breyer, who sits on the boards
of both Facebook and Wal-Mart.
 Adding another angle to this, Yahoo's new CEO, Marissa Mayer, was
elected to Wal-Mart's board in early June, while she was still at
Google. Earlier this month, Facebook and Yahoo settled a patent
dispute and announced plans to form another 'strategic alliance'
involving advertising and distribution.
The implications for online privacy in this series of relationships
are uncertain."
If true they use it, I'll simply shop somewhere else.   They still
would not know who i was, since I provide no ID at checkout.
Personally, I suspect it's more of a case of security working to scare the
crap out of the guy by saying whatever whether they could do so or not.
Having Wallyworld using such software doesnt bother me a bit. Its their
right to do just that.
Now..the government on the other hand....brrrrrr!
Gunner
--
"I was eating breakfast with my 13-year-old granddaughter
and I asked her, "What day is the 20th of February?"
She said "It's President's Day!"
(She is a smart kid.)
I asked "What does President's Day mean?"
I was waiting for something about Washington or Lincoln .... etc.
She replied, "President's Day is when President Obama steps out
of the White House, and if he sees his shadow we have
one more year of unemployment."
You know, it hurts when hot coffee spurts out your nose..."- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
LOL...of course the Government has no access to the info....none at
all.

Idiot.

TMT
Fair Play
2012-07-24 21:40:35 UTC
Permalink
On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 10:52:22 -0700 (PDT), Too_Many_Tools
Post by Too_Many_Tools
Post by Gunner Asch
On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 01:37:07 -0400, "Scout"
Post by Scout
Post by Fair Play
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 05:25:20 -0700 (PDT), Alim Nassor
Post by Fair Play
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 02:25:58 -0700 (PDT), Alim Nassor
Post by Alim Nassor
Post by Too_Many_Tools
Post by Too_Many_Tools
In these days of computerized retail, it is a simple matter to
follow
ammunition to its buyers.
Then I am reminded of all these idiot conservatives bragging
about all
the ammo they have brought.
Looks like they have been doing the heavy lifting for the
Government
to help find out who the potential terrorists are...the idiots
with
the excessive amounts of ammo.
So go ahead...buy lots and lots of ammo...and make it on the
national
terrorist list.
TMT
Movie theater gunman had been stockpiling arsenal
The Lookout -
(Barry Gutierrez/AP)
AURORA, Colo. The gunman who blasted his way through a packed
movie
house early on Friday, killing 12 people and injuring 58 others,
had
apparently been planning his attack for weeks.
"In the last 60 days he purchased four guns at local metro gun
shops,
and through the Internet he purchased over 6,000 rounds of
ammunition," Aurora Police Chief Daniel Oates said Friday night.
LOL...always entertaining to see conservatives readily admit how
stupid they are thinking that no one is watching them, tracking their
purchases and logging their movements in this age of data tracking.
One of those traits that we liberals find amusing....kind of like
when
monkeys throw feces at each other.
TMT
Please explain for the class, how, if I drive to the Walmart 20 miles
from my house, walk in, pay cash and walk out, how was I monitored,
Please use all the electrons you think you need.
If they are doing their job properly( a BIG if I grant you),
you have been videoed with face recognition technology
on entry,exit and point of sale.
At the point of sale you have produced your photo ID/Driving license
which is scanned and entered into the system.
Of course Walmart being Walmart...
I sincerely doubt Wal Mart has  face recognition technology in their
stores,
Why would you doubt they  have FR in their surveillance systems?
They have gait recognition in them and possess  one of the most
advanced surveillance systems in the world developed in Walmart China
with a gigantic database centered in Bentonville.
There are many reports of banned shoplifters being arrested for
trespassing on the spot when entering other branches.
Walmart's face recognition cameras
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110410100734AAw2Vlm
I was caught stealing at Walmart, and luckily the guy let me off with
out calling the cops or anything. But he said that he logged my face
on there cameras and every time i walk in to walmart from now on they
will automatically zoom in on my face and watch me. I feel really bad,
and i never stole anything before, so this is really eating away at
me. I'm 17. Do they have the technology to recognize my face every
time i walk in? If they do, will my face be logged for a limited time
or forever?
    1 year ago
    Report Abuse
Additional Details
Don't get me wrong, I'm not criticizing. I'm glad they caught me, it
was a HUGE wake-up call. I won't even consider thinking about doing it
again. But i don't know how long they are going to have to watch for
me on the cameras.
1 year ago
Insane_mad_maniak Insane_m...
Best Answer - Chosen by Voters
yes it's true,
http://alienpet13.com/2011/01/18/walmart
face recognition camera's have been in usage for a long time, because
of people stealing. you will be tracked through the store as soon as
you enter to the time you leave, and it will probably be like that for
quite a few years.
and no, I am not required to show my drivers license when
purchasing ammo.  The register simply prompts the clerk to ask if i am
of age.  I am clearly of age and have never shown any ID.
In practice it's patchy just like cigarette and alcohol purchases,
that's what I meant by Walmart being Walmart, but that's the policy.
If Walmart merges with Facebook you can forget all about anonymous
cash sales.
Facebook and Wal-Mart Join Forces
http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/07/20/1241223/facebook-and-wal-mart-...
"Wal-Mart the retail king of Big Data analytics will be meeting
Mark Zuckerberg for two days in Bentonville, to 'deepen' their
relationship with Facebook.
 The CEO-level strategy summit is intended to bolster the relationship
between the world's No. 1 social network and the world's largest
retailer. Wal-Mart has been left in the dust online by the behemoth
Amazon. An alliance may be poised to challenge this dominance,
particularly in light of Amazon's planned foray into same-day delivery
nationwide. The companies share James Breyer, who sits on the boards
of both Facebook and Wal-Mart.
 Adding another angle to this, Yahoo's new CEO, Marissa Mayer, was
elected to Wal-Mart's board in early June, while she was still at
Google. Earlier this month, Facebook and Yahoo settled a patent
dispute and announced plans to form another 'strategic alliance'
involving advertising and distribution.
The implications for online privacy in this series of relationships
are uncertain."
If true they use it, I'll simply shop somewhere else.   They still
would not know who i was, since I provide no ID at checkout.
Personally, I suspect it's more of a case of security working to scare the
crap out of the guy by saying whatever whether they could do so or not.
Having Wallyworld using such software doesnt bother me a bit. Its their
right to do just that.
Now..the government on the other hand....brrrrrr!
Gunner
--
"I was eating breakfast with my 13-year-old granddaughter
and I asked her, "What day is the 20th of February?"
She said "It's President's Day!"
(She is a smart kid.)
I asked "What does President's Day mean?"
I was waiting for something about Washington or Lincoln .... etc.
She replied, "President's Day is when President Obama steps out
of the White House, and if he sees his shadow we have
one more year of unemployment."
You know, it hurts when hot coffee spurts out your nose..."- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
LOL...of course the Government has no access to the info....none at
all.
Of course not.

The fact that ex FBI employees had the Department of Defense design a
surveillance system second only in size to the Pentagons' largest in
the world has no more to do with it than their private satellite
system or their partnership with Homeland Security.
Too_Many_Tools
2012-07-25 01:33:50 UTC
Permalink
Post by Fair Play
On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 10:52:22 -0700 (PDT), Too_Many_Tools
Post by Too_Many_Tools
Post by Gunner Asch
On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 01:37:07 -0400, "Scout"
Post by Scout
Post by Fair Play
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 05:25:20 -0700 (PDT), Alim Nassor
Post by Fair Play
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 02:25:58 -0700 (PDT), Alim Nassor
Post by Alim Nassor
Post by Too_Many_Tools
Post by Too_Many_Tools
In these days of computerized retail, it is a simple matter to
follow
ammunition to its buyers.
Then I am reminded of all these idiot conservatives bragging
about all
the ammo they have brought.
Looks like they have been doing the heavy lifting for the
Government
to help find out who the potential terrorists are...the idiots
with
the excessive amounts of ammo.
So go ahead...buy lots and lots of ammo...and make it on the
national
terrorist list.
TMT
Movie theater gunman had been stockpiling arsenal
The Lookout -
(Barry Gutierrez/AP)
AURORA, Colo. The gunman who blasted his way through a packed
movie
house early on Friday, killing 12 people and injuring 58 others,
had
apparently been planning his attack for weeks.
"In the last 60 days he purchased four guns at local metro gun
shops,
and through the Internet he purchased over 6,000 rounds of
ammunition," Aurora Police Chief Daniel Oates said Friday night.
LOL...always entertaining to see conservatives readily admit how
stupid they are thinking that no one is watching them, tracking
their
purchases and logging their movements in this age of data tracking.
One of those traits that we liberals find amusing....kind of like
when
monkeys throw feces at each other.
TMT
Please explain for the class, how, if I drive to the Walmart 20 miles
from my house, walk in, pay cash and walk out, how was I monitored,
Please use all the electrons you think you need.
If they are doing their job properly( a BIG if I grant you),
you have been videoed with face recognition technology
on entry,exit and point of sale.
At the point of sale you have produced your photo ID/Driving license
which is scanned and entered into the system.
Of course Walmart being Walmart...
I sincerely doubt Wal Mart has face recognition technology in their
stores,
Why would you doubt they have FR in their surveillance systems?
They have gait recognition in them and possess one of the most
advanced surveillance systems in the world developed in Walmart China
with a gigantic database centered in Bentonville.
There are many reports of banned shoplifters being arrested for
trespassing on the spot when entering other branches.
Walmart's face recognition cameras
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110410100734AAw2Vlm
I was caught stealing at Walmart, and luckily the guy let me off with
out calling the cops or anything. But he said that he logged my face
on there cameras and every time i walk in to walmart from now on they
will automatically zoom in on my face and watch me. I feel really bad,
and i never stole anything before, so this is really eating away at
me. I'm 17. Do they have the technology to recognize my face every
time i walk in? If they do, will my face be logged for a limited time
or forever?
1 year ago
Report Abuse
Additional Details
Don't get me wrong, I'm not criticizing. I'm glad they caught me, it
was a HUGE wake-up call. I won't even consider thinking about doing it
again. But i don't know how long they are going to have to watch for
me on the cameras.
1 year ago
Insane_mad_maniak Insane_m...
Best Answer - Chosen by Voters
yes it's true,
http://alienpet13.com/2011/01/18/walmart
face recognition camera's have been in usage for a long time, because
of people stealing. you will be tracked through the store as soon as
you enter to the time you leave, and it will probably be like that for
quite a few years.
and no, I am not required to show my drivers license when
purchasing ammo. The register simply prompts the clerk to ask if i am
of age. I am clearly of age and have never shown any ID.
In practice it's patchy just like cigarette and alcohol purchases,
that's what I meant by Walmart being Walmart, but that's the policy.
If Walmart merges with Facebook you can forget all about anonymous
cash sales.
Facebook and Wal-Mart Join Forces
http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/07/20/1241223/facebook-and-wal-mart-...
"Wal-Mart the retail king of Big Data analytics will be meeting
Mark Zuckerberg for two days in Bentonville, to 'deepen' their
relationship with Facebook.
The CEO-level strategy summit is intended to bolster the relationship
between the world's No. 1 social network and the world's largest
retailer. Wal-Mart has been left in the dust online by the behemoth
Amazon. An alliance may be poised to challenge this dominance,
particularly in light of Amazon's planned foray into same-day delivery
nationwide. The companies share James Breyer, who sits on the boards
of both Facebook and Wal-Mart.
Adding another angle to this, Yahoo's new CEO, Marissa Mayer, was
elected to Wal-Mart's board in early June, while she was still at
Google. Earlier this month, Facebook and Yahoo settled a patent
dispute and announced plans to form another 'strategic alliance'
involving advertising and distribution.
The implications for online privacy in this series of relationships
are uncertain."
If true they use it, I'll simply shop somewhere else. They still
would not know who i was, since I provide no ID at checkout.
Personally, I suspect it's more of a case of security working to scare the
crap out of the guy by saying whatever whether they could do so or not.
Having Wallyworld using such software doesnt bother me a bit. Its their
right to do just that.
Now..the government on the other hand....brrrrrr!
Gunner
--
"I was eating breakfast with my 13-year-old granddaughter
and I asked her, "What day is the 20th of February?"
She said "It's President's Day!"
(She is a smart kid.)
I asked "What does President's Day mean?"
I was waiting for something about Washington or Lincoln .... etc.
She replied, "President's Day is when President Obama steps out
of the White House, and if he sees his shadow we have
one more year of unemployment."
You know, it hurts when hot coffee spurts out your nose..."- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
LOL...of course the Government has no access to the info....none at
all.
Of course not.
The fact that ex FBI employees had the Department of Defense design a
surveillance system second only in size to the Pentagons' largest in
the world has no more to do with it than their private satellite
system or their partnership with Homeland Security.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Of course not. ;<)

TMT
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On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 10:52:22 -0700 (PDT), Too_Many_Tools
Post by Gunner Asch
On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 01:37:07 -0400, "Scout"
Post by Fair Play
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 05:25:20 -0700 (PDT), Alim Nassor
Post by Fair Play
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 02:25:58 -0700 (PDT), Alim Nassor
Post by Alim Nassor
Post by Too_Many_Tools
Post by Too_Many_Tools
In these days of computerized retail, it is a simple matter to
follow
ammunition to its buyers.
Then I am reminded of all these idiot conservatives bragging
about all
the ammo they have brought.
Looks like they have been doing the heavy lifting for the
Government
to help find out who the potential terrorists are...the idiots
with
the excessive amounts of ammo.
So go ahead...buy lots and lots of ammo...and make it on the
national
terrorist list.
TMT
Movie theater gunman had been stockpiling arsenal
The Lookout -
(Barry Gutierrez/AP)
AURORA, Colo. The gunman who blasted his way through a packed
movie
house early on Friday, killing 12 people and injuring 58 others,
had
apparently been planning his attack for weeks.
"In the last 60 days he purchased four guns at local metro gun
shops,
and through the Internet he purchased over 6,000 rounds of
ammunition," Aurora Police Chief Daniel Oates said Friday night.
LOL...always entertaining to see conservatives readily admit how
stupid they are thinking that no one is watching them, tracking
their
purchases and logging their movements in this age of data tracking.
One of those traits that we liberals find amusing....kind of like
when
monkeys throw feces at each other.
TMT
Please explain for the class, how, if I drive to the Walmart 20 miles
from my house, walk in, pay cash and walk out, how was I monitored,
Please use all the electrons you think you need.
If they are doing their job properly( a BIG if I grant you),
you have been videoed with face recognition technology
on entry,exit and point of sale.
--
"I was eating breakfast with my 13-year-old granddaughter
and I asked her, "What day is the 20th of February?"

She said "It's President's Day!"
(She is a smart kid.)
I asked "What does President's Day mean?"
I was waiting for something about Washington or Lincoln .... etc.
She replied, "President's Day is when President Obama steps out
of the White House, and if he sees his shadow we have
one more year of unemployment."
You know, it hurts when hot coffee spurts out your nose..."
Too_Many_Tools
2012-07-24 06:16:16 UTC
Permalink
Post by Fair Play
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 05:25:20 -0700 (PDT), Alim Nassor
Post by Fair Play
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 02:25:58 -0700 (PDT), Alim Nassor
Post by Alim Nassor
Post by Too_Many_Tools
Post by Too_Many_Tools
In these days of computerized retail, it is a simple matter to follow
ammunition to its buyers.
Then I am reminded of all these idiot conservatives bragging about all
the ammo they have brought.
Looks like they have been doing the heavy lifting for the Government
to help find out who the potential terrorists are...the idiots with
the excessive amounts of ammo.
So go ahead...buy lots and lots of ammo...and make it on the national
terrorist list.
TMT
Movie theater gunman had been stockpiling arsenal
The Lookout -
(Barry Gutierrez/AP)
AURORA, Colo. The gunman who blasted his way through a packed movie
house early on Friday, killing 12 people and injuring 58 others, had
apparently been planning his attack for weeks.
"In the last 60 days he purchased four guns at local metro gun shops,
and through the Internet he purchased over 6,000 rounds of
ammunition," Aurora Police Chief Daniel Oates said Friday night.
LOL...always entertaining to see conservatives readily admit how
stupid they are thinking that no one is watching them, tracking their
purchases and logging their movements in this age of data tracking.
One of those traits that we liberals find amusing....kind of like when
monkeys throw feces at each other.
TMT
Please explain for the class, how, if I drive to the Walmart 20 miles
from my house, walk in, pay cash and walk out, how was I monitored,
Please use all the electrons you think you need.
If they are doing their job properly( a BIG if I grant you),
you have been videoed with face recognition technology
on entry,exit and point of sale.
At the point of sale you have produced your photo ID/Driving license
which is scanned and entered into the system.
Of course Walmart being Walmart...
I sincerely doubt Wal Mart has  face recognition technology in their
stores,
Why would you doubt they  have FR in their surveillance systems?
They have gait recognition in them and possess  one of the most
advanced surveillance systems in the world developed in Walmart China
with a gigantic database centered in Bentonville.
There are many reports of banned shoplifters being arrested for
trespassing on the spot when entering other branches.
Walmart's face recognition cameras
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110410100734AAw2Vlm
I was caught stealing at Walmart, and luckily the guy let me off with
out calling the cops or anything. But he said that he logged my face
on there cameras and every time i walk in to walmart from now on they
will automatically zoom in on my face and watch me. I feel really bad,
and i never stole anything before, so this is really eating away at
me. I'm 17. Do they have the technology to recognize my face every
time i walk in? If they do, will my face be logged for a limited time
or forever?
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Don't get me wrong, I'm not criticizing. I'm glad they caught me, it
was a HUGE wake-up call. I won't even consider thinking about doing it
again. But i don't know how long they are going to have to watch for
me on the cameras.
1 year ago
Insane_mad_maniak Insane_m...
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yes it's true,
http://alienpet13.com/2011/01/18/walmart
face recognition camera's have been in usage for a long time, because
of people stealing. you will be tracked through the store as soon as
you enter to the time you leave, and it will probably be like that for
quite a few years.
and no, I am not required to show my drivers license when
purchasing ammo.  The register simply prompts the clerk to ask if i am
of age.  I am clearly of age and have never shown any ID.
In practice it's patchy just like cigarette and alcohol purchases,
that's what I meant by Walmart being Walmart, but that's the policy.
If Walmart merges with Facebook you can forget all about anonymous
cash sales.
Facebook and Wal-Mart Join Forces
http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/07/20/1241223/facebook-and-wal-mart-...
"Wal-Mart the retail king of Big Data analytics will be meeting
Mark Zuckerberg for two days in Bentonville, to 'deepen' their
relationship with Facebook.
 The CEO-level strategy summit is intended to bolster the relationship
between the world's No. 1 social network and the world's largest
retailer. Wal-Mart has been left in the dust online by the behemoth
Amazon. An alliance may be poised to challenge this dominance,
particularly in light of Amazon's planned foray into same-day delivery
nationwide. The companies share James Breyer, who sits on the boards
of both Facebook and Wal-Mart.
 Adding another angle to this, Yahoo's new CEO, Marissa Mayer, was
elected to Wal-Mart's board in early June, while she was still at
Google. Earlier this month, Facebook and Yahoo settled a patent
dispute and announced plans to form another 'strategic alliance'
involving advertising and distribution.
The implications for online privacy in this series of relationships
are uncertain."
If true they use it, I'll simply shop somewhere else.   They still
would not know who i was, since I provide no ID at checkout.- Hide quoted text -
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LOL...you don't to give them ID for them to know who you are.

You aren't very smart are you.

TMT
Fair Play
2012-07-24 07:05:32 UTC
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 22:25:41 -0700 (PDT), Alim Nassor
Post by Alim Nassor
Post by Fair Play
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 05:25:20 -0700 (PDT), Alim Nassor
Post by Fair Play
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 02:25:58 -0700 (PDT), Alim Nassor
Post by Alim Nassor
Post by Too_Many_Tools
Post by Too_Many_Tools
In these days of computerized retail, it is a simple matter to follow
ammunition to its buyers.
Then I am reminded of all these idiot conservatives bragging about all
the ammo they have brought.
Looks like they have been doing the heavy lifting for the Government
to help find out who the potential terrorists are...the idiots with
the excessive amounts of ammo.
So go ahead...buy lots and lots of ammo...and make it on the national
terrorist list.
TMT
Movie theater gunman had been stockpiling arsenal
The Lookout -
(Barry Gutierrez/AP)
AURORA, Colo. The gunman who blasted his way through a packed movie
house early on Friday, killing 12 people and injuring 58 others, had
apparently been planning his attack for weeks.
"In the last 60 days he purchased four guns at local metro gun shops,
and through the Internet he purchased over 6,000 rounds of
ammunition," Aurora Police Chief Daniel Oates said Friday night.
LOL...always entertaining to see conservatives readily admit how
stupid they are thinking that no one is watching them, tracking their
purchases and logging their movements in this age of data tracking.
One of those traits that we liberals find amusing....kind of like when
monkeys throw feces at each other.
TMT
Please explain for the class, how, if I drive to the Walmart 20 miles
from my house, walk in, pay cash and walk out, how was I monitored,
Please use all the electrons you think you need.
If they are doing their job properly( a BIG if I grant you),
you have been videoed with face recognition technology
on entry,exit and point of sale.
At the point of sale you have produced your photo ID/Driving license
which is scanned and entered into the system.
Of course Walmart being Walmart...
I sincerely doubt Wal Mart has  face recognition technology in their
stores,
Why would you doubt they  have FR in their surveillance systems?
They have gait recognition in them and possess  one of the most
advanced surveillance systems in the world developed in Walmart China
with a gigantic database centered in Bentonville.
There are many reports of banned shoplifters being arrested for
trespassing on the spot when entering other branches.
Walmart's face recognition cameras
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110410100734AAw2Vlm
I was caught stealing at Walmart, and luckily the guy let me off with
out calling the cops or anything. But he said that he logged my face
on there cameras and every time i walk in to walmart from now on they
will automatically zoom in on my face and watch me. I feel really bad,
and i never stole anything before, so this is really eating away at
me. I'm 17. Do they have the technology to recognize my face every
time i walk in? If they do, will my face be logged for a limited time
or forever?
    1 year ago
    Report Abuse
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Don't get me wrong, I'm not criticizing. I'm glad they caught me, it
was a HUGE wake-up call. I won't even consider thinking about doing it
again. But i don't know how long they are going to have to watch for
me on the cameras.
1 year ago
Insane_mad_maniak Insane_m...
Best Answer - Chosen by Voters
yes it's true,
http://alienpet13.com/2011/01/18/walmart
face recognition camera's have been in usage for a long time, because
of people stealing. you will be tracked through the store as soon as
you enter to the time you leave, and it will probably be like that for
quite a few years.
and no, I am not required to show my drivers license when
purchasing ammo.  The register simply prompts the clerk to ask if i am
of age.  I am clearly of age and have never shown any ID.
In practice it's patchy just like cigarette and alcohol purchases,
that's what I meant by Walmart being Walmart, but that's the policy.
If Walmart merges with Facebook you can forget all about anonymous
cash sales.
Facebook and Wal-Mart Join Forces
http://yro.slashdot.org/story/12/07/20/1241223/facebook-and-wal-mart-...
"Wal-Mart the retail king of Big Data analytics will be meeting
Mark Zuckerberg for two days in Bentonville, to 'deepen' their
relationship with Facebook.
 The CEO-level strategy summit is intended to bolster the relationship
between the world's No. 1 social network and the world's largest
retailer. Wal-Mart has been left in the dust online by the behemoth
Amazon. An alliance may be poised to challenge this dominance,
particularly in light of Amazon's planned foray into same-day delivery
nationwide. The companies share James Breyer, who sits on the boards
of both Facebook and Wal-Mart.
 Adding another angle to this, Yahoo's new CEO, Marissa Mayer, was
elected to Wal-Mart's board in early June, while she was still at
Google. Earlier this month, Facebook and Yahoo settled a patent
dispute and announced plans to form another 'strategic alliance'
involving advertising and distribution.
The implications for online privacy in this series of relationships
are uncertain."
If true they use it, I'll simply shop somewhere else. They still
would not know who i was, since I provide no ID at checkout.
There are many reasons why more and more people are choosing to pay a
little extra and shop somewhere else in areas where Walmart hasn't yet
managed to destroy all the local businesses.
RD Sandman
2012-07-23 16:45:16 UTC
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Post by Fair Play
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 02:25:58 -0700 (PDT), Alim Nassor
Post by Alim Nassor
Post by Too_Many_Tools
Post by Too_Many_Tools
In these days of computerized retail, it is a simple matter to
follo
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Post by Fair Play
Post by Alim Nassor
Post by Too_Many_Tools
Post by Too_Many_Tools
ammunition to its buyers.
Then I am reminded of all these idiot conservatives bragging
about a
ll
Post by Fair Play
Post by Alim Nassor
Post by Too_Many_Tools
Post by Too_Many_Tools
the ammo they have brought.
Looks like they have been doing the heavy lifting for the
Government to help find out who the potential terrorists
are...the idiots with the excessive amounts of ammo.
So go ahead...buy lots and lots of ammo...and make it on the
nationa
l
Post by Fair Play
Post by Alim Nassor
Post by Too_Many_Tools
Post by Too_Many_Tools
terrorist list.
TMT
Movie theater gunman had been stockpiling arsenal
The Lookout -
(Barry Gutierrez/AP)
AURORA, Colo. — The gunman who blasted his way through a packed
mo
vie
Post by Fair Play
Post by Alim Nassor
Post by Too_Many_Tools
Post by Too_Many_Tools
house early on Friday, killing 12 people and injuring 58 others,
had apparently been planning his attack for weeks.
"In the last 60 days he purchased four guns at local metro gun
shops
,
Post by Fair Play
Post by Alim Nassor
Post by Too_Many_Tools
Post by Too_Many_Tools
and through the Internet he purchased over 6,000 rounds of
ammunition," Aurora Police Chief Daniel Oates said Friday night.
LOL...always entertaining to see conservatives readily admit how
stupid they are thinking that no one is watching them, tracking
their purchases and logging their movements in this age of data
tracking.
One of those traits that we liberals find amusing....kind of like
when monkeys throw feces at each other.
TMT
Please explain for the class, how, if I drive to the Walmart 20
miles from my house, walk in, pay cash and walk out, how was I
monitored, Please use all the electrons you think you need.
If they are doing their job properly( a BIG if I grant you),
you have been videoed with face recognition technology
on entry,exit and point of sale.
At the point of sale you have produced your photo ID/Driving license
which is scanned and entered into the system.
Of course Walmart being Walmart...
I sincerely doubt Wal Mart has face recognition technology in their
stores, and no, I am not required to show my drivers license when
purchasing ammo. The register simply prompts the clerk to ask if i am
of age. I am clearly of age and have never shown any ID.
Bingo!!
--
If you hear me yell, "Eject! Eject! Eject!"
The last two will be echoes......

If you stop to ask "Why?" You will be talking to
yourself because you just became the pilot.


Sleep well, tonight.....
BeamMeUpScotty
2012-07-23 17:25:27 UTC
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Post by RD Sandman
Post by Alim Nassor
Post by Fair Play
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 02:25:58 -0700 (PDT), Alim Nassor
Post by Alim Nassor
Post by Too_Many_Tools
Post by Too_Many_Tools
In these days of computerized retail, it is a simple matter to
follo
w
Post by Fair Play
Post by Alim Nassor
Post by Too_Many_Tools
Post by Too_Many_Tools
ammunition to its buyers.
Then I am reminded of all these idiot conservatives bragging
about a
ll
Post by Fair Play
Post by Alim Nassor
Post by Too_Many_Tools
Post by Too_Many_Tools
the ammo they have brought.
Looks like they have been doing the heavy lifting for the
Government to help find out who the potential terrorists
are...the idiots with the excessive amounts of ammo.
So go ahead...buy lots and lots of ammo...and make it on the
nationa
l
Post by Fair Play
Post by Alim Nassor
Post by Too_Many_Tools
Post by Too_Many_Tools
terrorist list.
TMT
Movie theater gunman had been stockpiling arsenal
The Lookout -
(Barry Gutierrez/AP)
AURORA, Colo. — The gunman who blasted his way through a packed
mo
vie
Post by Fair Play
Post by Alim Nassor
Post by Too_Many_Tools
Post by Too_Many_Tools
house early on Friday, killing 12 people and injuring 58 others,
had apparently been planning his attack for weeks.
"In the last 60 days he purchased four guns at local metro gun
shops
,
Post by Fair Play
Post by Alim Nassor
Post by Too_Many_Tools
Post by Too_Many_Tools
and through the Internet he purchased over 6,000 rounds of
ammunition," Aurora Police Chief Daniel Oates said Friday night.
LOL...always entertaining to see conservatives readily admit how
stupid they are thinking that no one is watching them, tracking
their purchases and logging their movements in this age of data
tracking.
One of those traits that we liberals find amusing....kind of like
when monkeys throw feces at each other.
TMT
Please explain for the class, how, if I drive to the Walmart 20
miles from my house, walk in, pay cash and walk out, how was I
monitored, Please use all the electrons you think you need.
If they are doing their job properly( a BIG if I grant you),
you have been videoed with face recognition technology
on entry,exit and point of sale.
At the point of sale you have produced your photo ID/Driving license
which is scanned and entered into the system.
Of course Walmart being Walmart...
I sincerely doubt Wal Mart has face recognition technology in their
stores, and no, I am not required to show my drivers license when
purchasing ammo. The register simply prompts the clerk to ask if i am
of age. I am clearly of age and have never shown any ID.
Bingo!!
Bingo as in freedom?

A constitutional freedom that's there for all to see?

What a novel idea.....
--
*Inalienable Lesson*
#5 - You can't have Social Justice and Equal Justice at the same time,
they are 'mutually exclusive'.
RD Sandman
2012-07-23 21:50:22 UTC
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Post by Alim Nassor
Post by Fair Play
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 02:25:58 -0700 (PDT), Alim Nassor
Post by Alim Nassor
Post by Too_Many_Tools
Post by Too_Many_Tools
In these days of computerized retail, it is a simple matter to
follo
w
Post by Fair Play
Post by Alim Nassor
Post by Too_Many_Tools
Post by Too_Many_Tools
ammunition to its buyers.
Then I am reminded of all these idiot conservatives bragging
about a
ll
Post by Fair Play
Post by Alim Nassor
Post by Too_Many_Tools
Post by Too_Many_Tools
the ammo they have brought.
Looks like they have been doing the heavy lifting for the
Government to help find out who the potential terrorists
are...the idiots with the excessive amounts of ammo.
So go ahead...buy lots and lots of ammo...and make it on the
nationa
l
Post by Fair Play
Post by Alim Nassor
Post by Too_Many_Tools
Post by Too_Many_Tools
terrorist list.
TMT
Movie theater gunman had been stockpiling arsenal
The Lookout -
(Barry Gutierrez/AP)
AURORA, Colo. — The gunman who blasted his way through a packed
mo
vie
Post by Fair Play
Post by Alim Nassor
Post by Too_Many_Tools
Post by Too_Many_Tools
house early on Friday, killing 12 people and injuring 58 others,
had apparently been planning his attack for weeks.
"In the last 60 days he purchased four guns at local metro gun
shops
,
Post by Fair Play
Post by Alim Nassor
Post by Too_Many_Tools
Post by Too_Many_Tools
and through the Internet he purchased over 6,000 rounds of
ammunition," Aurora Police Chief Daniel Oates said Friday night.
LOL...always entertaining to see conservatives readily admit how
stupid they are thinking that no one is watching them, tracking
their purchases and logging their movements in this age of data
tracking.
One of those traits that we liberals find amusing....kind of like
when monkeys throw feces at each other.
TMT
Please explain for the class, how, if I drive to the Walmart 20
miles from my house, walk in, pay cash and walk out, how was I
monitored, Please use all the electrons you think you need.
If they are doing their job properly( a BIG if I grant you),
you have been videoed with face recognition technology
on entry,exit and point of sale.
At the point of sale you have produced your photo ID/Driving license
which is scanned and entered into the system.
Of course Walmart being Walmart...
I sincerely doubt Wal Mart has face recognition technology in their
stores, and no, I am not required to show my drivers license when
purchasing ammo. The register simply prompts the clerk to ask if i am
of age. I am clearly of age and have never shown any ID.
Bingo!!
Bingo as in freedom?
A constitutional freedom that's there for all to see?
What a novel idea.....
If you have the right dots covered.
--
If you hear me yell, "Eject! Eject! Eject!"
The last two will be echoes......

If you stop to ask "Why?" You will be talking to
yourself because you just became the pilot.


Sleep well, tonight.....
Gunner Asch
2012-07-23 12:52:07 UTC
Permalink
Post by Fair Play
Post by Alim Nassor
Post by Too_Many_Tools
One of those traits that we liberals find amusing....kind of like when
monkeys throw feces at each other.
TMT
Please explain for the class, how, if I drive to the Walmart 20 miles
from my house, walk in, pay cash and walk out, how was I monitored,
Please use all the electrons you think you need.
If they are doing their job properly( a BIG if I grant you),
you have been videoed with face recognition technology
on entry,exit and point of sale.
At the point of sale you have produced your photo ID/Driving license
which is scanned and entered into the system.
Of course Walmart being Walmart...
Doing their job properly? Where is the law that requires people to be
Id'd before buying ammo?

Its not even a requirement here in the Peoples Republik of Kalifornia

Gunner

--
"I was eating breakfast with my 13-year-old granddaughter
and I asked her, "What day is the 20th of February?"

She said "It's President's Day!"
(She is a smart kid.)
I asked "What does President's Day mean?"
I was waiting for something about Washington or Lincoln .... etc.
She replied, "President's Day is when President Obama steps out
of the White House, and if he sees his shadow we have
one more year of unemployment."
You know, it hurts when hot coffee spurts out your nose..."
Fair Play
2012-07-23 13:47:21 UTC
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Post by Gunner Asch
Post by Fair Play
Post by Alim Nassor
Post by Too_Many_Tools
One of those traits that we liberals find amusing....kind of like when
monkeys throw feces at each other.
TMT
Please explain for the class, how, if I drive to the Walmart 20 miles
from my house, walk in, pay cash and walk out, how was I monitored,
Please use all the electrons you think you need.
If they are doing their job properly( a BIG if I grant you),
you have been videoed with face recognition technology
on entry,exit and point of sale.
At the point of sale you have produced your photo ID/Driving license
which is scanned and entered into the system.
Of course Walmart being Walmart...
Doing their job properly? Where is the law that requires people to be
Id'd before buying ammo?
I know it's outrageous.

The law only requires them to card if they have reason to believe a
buyer is underage but they claim it's a question of their "policy".
Post by Gunner Asch
Its not even a requirement here in the Peoples Republik of Kalifornia
They seemingly can make up any policy they wish.

There's a thread about it here

Walmart Required ID to Purchase Ammo

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/archive/index.php/t-558163.html

jim2342
04-09-2012, 12:13 PM
Walked into the Walmart in Kearny Mesa (San Diego) on Saturday to
check out the ammo supply. They had a bunch of .45 ACP that I was
interested in. I told the clerk "I'd like to get some ammo". She said
"let me get the clerk with the key". Here is what followed.
Clerk: Who needs ammo?
Me: I do.
Clerk: I need to see an ID
Me: Why do you need to see an ID?
Clerk: It's the law.
Me: No, its not
Clerk: Yes it is, ATF told us its the law.
Me: The law is you cannot sell handgun ammo to a minor (I'm 57 years
old and CLEARLY not a minor).
Clerk: ATF told Walmart we have to check ID's, it's the law.
Me: I don't care what BATFE told Walmart, it is not the law in
California to require ID to purchase ammo. Is it a Walmart policy?
(I've never been asked for ID when purchasing ammo at Walmart before)
Clerk: Yeah, whatever, do you want the ammo, I need the ID.
Me: Fine, here it is. (I give her my Retired Military ID, on which the
DOB is on the back side, she never even turned it over to look).

Now granted, we're talking about a young girl, probably making minimum
wage, who is just doing what she's told. But it really pissed me off
when she kept telling me "it's the law, ATF says so".

Anyone else have any encounters like this with WallyWorld?
whoyakidding
2012-07-23 14:07:01 UTC
Permalink
Post by Fair Play
There's a thread about it here
Walmart Required ID to Purchase Ammo
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/archive/index.php/t-558163.html
jim2342
04-09-2012, 12:13 PM
Walked into the Walmart in Kearny Mesa (San Diego) on Saturday to
check out the ammo supply. They had a bunch of .45 ACP that I was
interested in. I told the clerk "I'd like to get some ammo". She said
"let me get the clerk with the key". Here is what followed.
Clerk: Who needs ammo?
Me: I do.
Clerk: I need to see an ID
Me: Why do you need to see an ID?
Clerk: It's the law.
Me: No, its not
Clerk: Yes it is, ATF told us its the law.
Me: The law is you cannot sell handgun ammo to a minor (I'm 57 years
old and CLEARLY not a minor).
Clerk: ATF told Walmart we have to check ID's, it's the law.
Me: I don't care what BATFE told Walmart, it is not the law in
California to require ID to purchase ammo. Is it a Walmart policy?
(I've never been asked for ID when purchasing ammo at Walmart before)
Clerk: Yeah, whatever, do you want the ammo, I need the ID.
Me: Fine, here it is. (I give her my Retired Military ID, on which the
DOB is on the back side, she never even turned it over to look).
Now granted, we're talking about a young girl, probably making minimum
wage, who is just doing what she's told. But it really pissed me off
when she kept telling me "it's the law, ATF says so".
Anyone else have any encounters like this with WallyWorld?
Not that specifically. But some of their people ask for ID when a
credit card is used. The practice MIGHT save the system some money but
they're NOT allowed to refuse the card if you don't show ID.
Unfortunately it's not worth arguing with somebody who can't do better
than working at Walmart or the like.
http://184.172.176.37/~interpag/creditcardregs/credit-card-complaints.html
http://www.dailyfinance.com/2010/10/19/walmarts-strange-credit-card-demand/
http://consumerist.com/2010/09/walmart-demands-id-on-credit-card-purchase-over-100.html
Too_Many_Tools
2012-07-23 23:11:56 UTC
Permalink
Post by whoyakidding
Post by Fair Play
There's a thread about it here
Walmart Required ID to Purchase Ammo
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/archive/index.php/t-558163.html
jim2342
04-09-2012, 12:13 PM
Walked into the Walmart in Kearny Mesa (San Diego) on Saturday to
check out the ammo supply. They had a bunch of .45 ACP that I was
interested in. I told the clerk "I'd like to get some ammo". She said
"let me get the clerk with the key". Here is what followed.
Clerk: Who needs ammo?
Me: I do.
Clerk: I need to see an ID
Me: Why do you need to see an ID?
Clerk: It's the law.
Me: No, its not
Clerk: Yes it is, ATF told us its the law.
Me: The law is you cannot sell handgun ammo to a minor (I'm 57 years
old and CLEARLY not a minor).
Clerk: ATF told Walmart we have to check ID's, it's the law.
Me: I don't care what BATFE told Walmart, it is not the law in
California to require ID to purchase ammo. Is it a Walmart policy?
(I've never been asked for ID when purchasing ammo at Walmart before)
Clerk: Yeah, whatever, do you want the ammo, I need the ID.
Me: Fine, here it is. (I give her my Retired Military ID, on which the
DOB is on the back side, she never even turned it over to look).
Now granted, we're talking about a young girl, probably making minimum
wage, who is just doing what she's told. But it really pissed me off
when she kept telling me "it's the law, ATF says so".
Anyone else have any encounters like this with WallyWorld?
Not that specifically. But some of their people ask for ID when a
credit card is used. The practice MIGHT save the system some money but
they're NOT allowed to refuse the card if you don't show ID.
Unfortunately it's not worth arguing with somebody who can't do better
than working at Walmart or the like.http://184.172.176.37/~interpag/creditcardregs/credit-card-complaints...http://www.dailyfinance.com/2010/10/19/walmarts-strange-credit-card-d...http://consumerist.com/2010/09/walmart-demands-id-on-credit-card-purc...- Hide quoted text -
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They don't need the ID to know who bought the ammo.

It is just a shortcut.

TMT
Alim Nassor
2012-07-24 05:28:14 UTC
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Post by whoyakidding
Post by Fair Play
There's a thread about it here
Walmart Required ID to Purchase Ammo
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/archive/index.php/t-558163.html
jim2342
04-09-2012, 12:13 PM
Walked into the Walmart in Kearny Mesa (San Diego) on Saturday to
check out the ammo supply. They had a bunch of .45 ACP that I was
interested in. I told the clerk "I'd like to get some ammo". She said
"let me get the clerk with the key". Here is what followed.
Clerk: Who needs ammo?
Me: I do.
Clerk: I need to see an ID
Me: Why do you need to see an ID?
Clerk: It's the law.
Me: No, its not
Clerk: Yes it is, ATF told us its the law.
Me: The law is you cannot sell handgun ammo to a minor (I'm 57 years
old and CLEARLY not a minor).
Clerk: ATF told Walmart we have to check ID's, it's the law.
Me: I don't care what BATFE told Walmart, it is not the law in
California to require ID to purchase ammo. Is it a Walmart policy?
(I've never been asked for ID when purchasing ammo at Walmart before)
Clerk: Yeah, whatever, do you want the ammo, I need the ID.
Me: Fine, here it is. (I give her my Retired Military ID, on which the
DOB is on the back side, she never even turned it over to look).
Now granted, we're talking about a young girl, probably making minimum
wage, who is just doing what she's told. But it really pissed me off
when she kept telling me "it's the law, ATF says so".
Anyone else have any encounters like this with WallyWorld?
Not that specifically. But some of their people ask for ID when a
credit card is used. The practice MIGHT save the system some money but
they're NOT allowed to refuse the card if you don't show ID.
Unfortunately it's not worth arguing with somebody who can't do better
than working at Walmart or the like.http://184.172.176.37/~interpag/creditcardregs/credit-card-complaints...Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
They don't need the ID to know who bought the ammo.
It is just a shortcut.
TMT
Enlighten us, oh wise one.
Too_Many_Tools
2012-07-24 06:16:51 UTC
Permalink
Post by Too_Many_Tools
Post by whoyakidding
Post by Fair Play
There's a thread about it here
Walmart Required ID to Purchase Ammo
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/archive/index.php/t-558163.html
jim2342
04-09-2012, 12:13 PM
Walked into the Walmart in Kearny Mesa (San Diego) on Saturday to
check out the ammo supply. They had a bunch of .45 ACP that I was
interested in. I told the clerk "I'd like to get some ammo". She said
"let me get the clerk with the key". Here is what followed.
Clerk: Who needs ammo?
Me: I do.
Clerk: I need to see an ID
Me: Why do you need to see an ID?
Clerk: It's the law.
Me: No, its not
Clerk: Yes it is, ATF told us its the law.
Me: The law is you cannot sell handgun ammo to a minor (I'm 57 years
old and CLEARLY not a minor).
Clerk: ATF told Walmart we have to check ID's, it's the law.
Me: I don't care what BATFE told Walmart, it is not the law in
California to require ID to purchase ammo. Is it a Walmart policy?
(I've never been asked for ID when purchasing ammo at Walmart before)
Clerk: Yeah, whatever, do you want the ammo, I need the ID.
Me: Fine, here it is. (I give her my Retired Military ID, on which the
DOB is on the back side, she never even turned it over to look).
Now granted, we're talking about a young girl, probably making minimum
wage, who is just doing what she's told. But it really pissed me off
when she kept telling me "it's the law, ATF says so".
Anyone else have any encounters like this with WallyWorld?
Not that specifically. But some of their people ask for ID when a
credit card is used. The practice MIGHT save the system some money but
they're NOT allowed to refuse the card if you don't show ID.
Unfortunately it's not worth arguing with somebody who can't do better
than working at Walmart or the like.http://184.172.176.37/~interpag/creditcardregs/credit-card-complaints...quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
They don't need the ID to know who bought the ammo.
It is just a shortcut.
TMT
Enlighten us, oh wise one.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I already did O All Hat and NO Cattle.

TMT
Alim Nassor
2012-07-24 09:02:47 UTC
Permalink
Post by Too_Many_Tools
Post by Too_Many_Tools
Post by whoyakidding
Post by Fair Play
There's a thread about it here
Walmart Required ID to Purchase Ammo
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/archive/index.php/t-558163.html
jim2342
04-09-2012, 12:13 PM
Walked into the Walmart in Kearny Mesa (San Diego) on Saturday to
check out the ammo supply. They had a bunch of .45 ACP that I was
interested in. I told the clerk "I'd like to get some ammo". She said
"let me get the clerk with the key". Here is what followed.
Clerk: Who needs ammo?
Me: I do.
Clerk: I need to see an ID
Me: Why do you need to see an ID?
Clerk: It's the law.
Me: No, its not
Clerk: Yes it is, ATF told us its the law.
Me: The law is you cannot sell handgun ammo to a minor (I'm 57 years
old and CLEARLY not a minor).
Clerk: ATF told Walmart we have to check ID's, it's the law.
Me: I don't care what BATFE told Walmart, it is not the law in
California to require ID to purchase ammo. Is it a Walmart policy?
(I've never been asked for ID when purchasing ammo at Walmart before)
Clerk: Yeah, whatever, do you want the ammo, I need the ID.
Me: Fine, here it is. (I give her my Retired Military ID, on which the
DOB is on the back side, she never even turned it over to look).
Now granted, we're talking about a young girl, probably making minimum
wage, who is just doing what she's told. But it really pissed me off
when she kept telling me "it's the law, ATF says so".
Anyone else have any encounters like this with WallyWorld?
Not that specifically. But some of their people ask for ID when a
credit card is used. The practice MIGHT save the system some money but
they're NOT allowed to refuse the card if you don't show ID.
Unfortunately it's not worth arguing with somebody who can't do better
than working at Walmart or the like.http://184.172.176.37/~interpag/creditcardregs/credit-card-complaints...text -
- Show quoted text -
They don't need the ID to know who bought the ammo.
It is just a shortcut.
TMT
Enlighten us, oh wise one.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I already did O All Hat and NO Cattle.
TMT
No, you didn't
Too_Many_Tools
2012-07-24 17:51:36 UTC
Permalink
Post by Too_Many_Tools
Post by Too_Many_Tools
Post by whoyakidding
Post by Fair Play
There's a thread about it here
Walmart Required ID to Purchase Ammo
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/archive/index.php/t-558163.html
jim2342
04-09-2012, 12:13 PM
Walked into the Walmart in Kearny Mesa (San Diego) on Saturday to
check out the ammo supply. They had a bunch of .45 ACP that I was
interested in. I told the clerk "I'd like to get some ammo". She said
"let me get the clerk with the key". Here is what followed.
Clerk: Who needs ammo?
Me: I do.
Clerk: I need to see an ID
Me: Why do you need to see an ID?
Clerk: It's the law.
Me: No, its not
Clerk: Yes it is, ATF told us its the law.
Me: The law is you cannot sell handgun ammo to a minor (I'm 57 years
old and CLEARLY not a minor).
Clerk: ATF told Walmart we have to check ID's, it's the law.
Me: I don't care what BATFE told Walmart, it is not the law in
California to require ID to purchase ammo. Is it a Walmart policy?
(I've never been asked for ID when purchasing ammo at Walmart before)
Clerk: Yeah, whatever, do you want the ammo, I need the ID.
Me: Fine, here it is. (I give her my Retired Military ID, on which the
DOB is on the back side, she never even turned it over to look).
Now granted, we're talking about a young girl, probably making minimum
wage, who is just doing what she's told. But it really pissed me off
when she kept telling me "it's the law, ATF says so".
Anyone else have any encounters like this with WallyWorld?
Not that specifically. But some of their people ask for ID when a
credit card is used. The practice MIGHT save the system some money but
they're NOT allowed to refuse the card if you don't show ID.
Unfortunately it's not worth arguing with somebody who can't do better
than working at Walmart or the like.http://184.172.176.37/~interpag/creditcardregs/credit-card-complaints...-
- Show quoted text -
They don't need the ID to know who bought the ammo.
It is just a shortcut.
TMT
Enlighten us, oh wise one.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I already did O All Hat and NO Cattle.
TMT
No, you didn't- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Why don't you go dig another oil well in the front yard and leave the
adult conversations to us.

TMT
Alim Nassor
2012-07-25 03:12:21 UTC
Permalink
Post by Too_Many_Tools
Post by Too_Many_Tools
Post by Too_Many_Tools
Post by whoyakidding
Post by Fair Play
There's a thread about it here
Walmart Required ID to Purchase Ammo
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/archive/index.php/t-558163.html
jim2342
04-09-2012, 12:13 PM
Walked into the Walmart in Kearny Mesa (San Diego) on Saturday to
check out the ammo supply. They had a bunch of .45 ACP that I was
interested in. I told the clerk "I'd like to get some ammo". She said
"let me get the clerk with the key". Here is what followed.
Clerk: Who needs ammo?
Me: I do.
Clerk: I need to see an ID
Me: Why do you need to see an ID?
Clerk: It's the law.
Me: No, its not
Clerk: Yes it is, ATF told us its the law.
Me: The law is you cannot sell handgun ammo to a minor (I'm 57 years
old and CLEARLY not a minor).
Clerk: ATF told Walmart we have to check ID's, it's the law.
Me: I don't care what BATFE told Walmart, it is not the law in
California to require ID to purchase ammo. Is it a Walmart policy?
(I've never been asked for ID when purchasing ammo at Walmart before)
Clerk: Yeah, whatever, do you want the ammo, I need the ID.
Me: Fine, here it is. (I give her my Retired Military ID, on which the
DOB is on the back side, she never even turned it over to look).
Now granted, we're talking about a young girl, probably making minimum
wage, who is just doing what she's told. But it really pissed me off
when she kept telling me "it's the law, ATF says so".
Anyone else have any encounters like this with WallyWorld?
Not that specifically. But some of their people ask for ID when a
credit card is used. The practice MIGHT save the system some money but
they're NOT allowed to refuse the card if you don't show ID.
Unfortunately it's not worth arguing with somebody who can't do better
than working at Walmart or the like.http://184.172.176.37/~interpag/creditcardregs/credit-card-complaints...
- Show quoted text -
They don't need the ID to know who bought the ammo.
It is just a shortcut.
TMT
Enlighten us, oh wise one.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I already did O All Hat and NO Cattle.
TMT
No, you didn't- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Why don't you go dig another oil well in the front yard and leave the
adult conversations to us.
TMT
No need for that, the drilling company does all the work.
pyotr filipivich
2012-07-24 07:00:18 UTC
Permalink
Post by Gunner Asch
Post by Fair Play
Post by Alim Nassor
Post by Too_Many_Tools
One of those traits that we liberals find amusing....kind of like when
monkeys throw feces at each other.
TMT
Please explain for the class, how, if I drive to the Walmart 20 miles
from my house, walk in, pay cash and walk out, how was I monitored,
Please use all the electrons you think you need.
If they are doing their job properly( a BIG if I grant you),
you have been videoed with face recognition technology
on entry,exit and point of sale.
At the point of sale you have produced your photo ID/Driving license
which is scanned and entered into the system.
Of course Walmart being Walmart...
Doing their job properly? Where is the law that requires people to be
Id'd before buying ammo?
Its not even a requirement here in the Peoples Republik of Kalifornia
That's "Respublik". And is "People's Respublik Kalifornia".


dosvadanya
pyotr
--
pyotr filipivich
Most journalists these days couldn't investigate a missing chocolate cake
at a pre-school without a Democrat office holder telling them what to look for,
where, and why it is Geroge Bush's fault.
Gunner Asch
2012-07-24 10:46:51 UTC
Permalink
On Tue, 24 Jul 2012 00:00:18 -0700, pyotr filipivich
Post by pyotr filipivich
Post by Gunner Asch
Post by Fair Play
Post by Alim Nassor
Post by Too_Many_Tools
One of those traits that we liberals find amusing....kind of like when
monkeys throw feces at each other.
TMT
Please explain for the class, how, if I drive to the Walmart 20 miles
from my house, walk in, pay cash and walk out, how was I monitored,
Please use all the electrons you think you need.
If they are doing their job properly( a BIG if I grant you),
you have been videoed with face recognition technology
on entry,exit and point of sale.
At the point of sale you have produced your photo ID/Driving license
which is scanned and entered into the system.
Of course Walmart being Walmart...
Doing their job properly? Where is the law that requires people to be
Id'd before buying ammo?
Its not even a requirement here in the Peoples Republik of Kalifornia
That's "Respublik". And is "People's Respublik Kalifornia".
dosvadanya
pyotr
--
pyotr filipivich
Most journalists these days couldn't investigate a missing chocolate cake
at a pre-school without a Democrat office holder telling them what to look for,
where, and why it is Geroge Bush's fault.
Spasibo, moï dorogoï drug!

Gunner

--
"I was eating breakfast with my 13-year-old granddaughter
and I asked her, "What day is the 20th of February?"

She said "It's President's Day!"
(She is a smart kid.)
I asked "What does President's Day mean?"
I was waiting for something about Washington or Lincoln .... etc.
She replied, "President's Day is when President Obama steps out
of the White House, and if he sees his shadow we have
one more year of unemployment."
You know, it hurts when hot coffee spurts out your nose..."
Klaus Schadenfreude
2012-07-23 12:59:34 UTC
Permalink
Post by Fair Play
If they are doing their job properly( a BIG if I grant you),
you have been videoed with face recognition technology
on entry,exit and point of sale.
Who decided that FRT at these three points is "proper?"

You?
Fair Play
2012-07-23 13:53:18 UTC
Permalink
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 05:59:34 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Fair Play
If they are doing their job properly( a BIG if I grant you),
you have been videoed with face recognition technology
on entry,exit and point of sale.
Who decided that FRT at these three points is "proper?"
You?
Your snipping and mangling nonsense is REALLY boring.
Doing their job properly means asking for ID as per their
instructions.

The surveillance at entry,exit and POS is controlled from Bentonville
HQ.
Klaus Schadenfreude
2012-07-23 14:04:59 UTC
Permalink
Post by Fair Play
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 05:59:34 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Fair Play
If they are doing their job properly( a BIG if I grant you),
you have been videoed with face recognition technology
on entry,exit and point of sale.
Who decided that FRT at these three points is "proper?"
You?
Your snipping and mangling nonsense is REALLY boring.
TRANSLATION: You can't respond intelligently to the question. I get
it.

I'm not going to quote the entire article when what I want to comment
on is one paragraph.
Post by Fair Play
Doing their job properly means asking for ID as per their
instructions.
Asking for ID isn't the same as tracking ID, is it?
Post by Fair Play
The surveillance at entry,exit and POS is controlled from Bentonville
HQ.
So you say. Well, you and some guy on Yahoo Answers. Got anything a
LITTLE more substantial?
Fair Play
2012-07-23 14:16:07 UTC
Permalink
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 07:04:59 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Fair Play
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 05:59:34 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Fair Play
If they are doing their job properly( a BIG if I grant you),
you have been videoed with face recognition technology
on entry,exit and point of sale.
Who decided that FRT at these three points is "proper?"
You?
Your snipping and mangling nonsense is REALLY boring.
TRANSLATION: You can't respond intelligently to the question. I get
it.
I'm not going to quote the entire article when what I want to comment
on is one paragraph.
Post by Fair Play
Doing their job properly means asking for ID as per their
instructions.
Asking for ID isn't the same as tracking ID, is it?
Post by Fair Play
The surveillance at entry,exit and POS is controlled from Bentonville
HQ.
So you say. Well, you and some guy on Yahoo Answers. Got anything a
LITTLE more substantial?
You're a hopeless case.
Klaus Schadenfreude
2012-07-23 14:24:07 UTC
Permalink
Post by Fair Play
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 07:04:59 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Fair Play
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 05:59:34 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Fair Play
If they are doing their job properly( a BIG if I grant you),
you have been videoed with face recognition technology
on entry,exit and point of sale.
Who decided that FRT at these three points is "proper?"
You?
Your snipping and mangling nonsense is REALLY boring.
TRANSLATION: You can't respond intelligently to the question. I get
it.
I'm not going to quote the entire article when what I want to comment
on is one paragraph.
Post by Fair Play
Doing their job properly means asking for ID as per their
instructions.
Asking for ID isn't the same as tracking ID, is it?
Post by Fair Play
The surveillance at entry,exit and POS is controlled from Bentonville
HQ.
So you say. Well, you and some guy on Yahoo Answers. Got anything a
LITTLE more substantial?
You're a hopeless case.
I'll take that as a "no."

Thanks for playing!
Fair Play
2012-07-23 14:36:35 UTC
Permalink
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 07:24:07 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Fair Play
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 07:04:59 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Fair Play
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 05:59:34 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Fair Play
If they are doing their job properly( a BIG if I grant you),
you have been videoed with face recognition technology
on entry,exit and point of sale.
Who decided that FRT at these three points is "proper?"
You?
Your snipping and mangling nonsense is REALLY boring.
TRANSLATION: You can't respond intelligently to the question. I get
it.
I'm not going to quote the entire article when what I want to comment
on is one paragraph.
Post by Fair Play
Doing their job properly means asking for ID as per their
instructions.
Asking for ID isn't the same as tracking ID, is it?
Post by Fair Play
The surveillance at entry,exit and POS is controlled from Bentonville
HQ.
So you say. Well, you and some guy on Yahoo Answers. Got anything a
LITTLE more substantial?
You're a hopeless case.
I'll take that as a "no."
You'll take anything as whatever your compulsive delusions tell you it
is.
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Thanks for playing!
Yawn
Klaus Schadenfreude
2012-07-23 19:29:10 UTC
Permalink
Post by Fair Play
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 07:24:07 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Fair Play
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 07:04:59 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Fair Play
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 05:59:34 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Klaus Schadenfreude
Post by Fair Play
If they are doing their job properly( a BIG if I grant you),
you have been videoed with face recognition technology
on entry,exit and point of sale.
Who decided that FRT at these three points is "proper?"
You?
Your snipping and mangling nonsense is REALLY boring.
TRANSLATION: You can't respond intelligently to the question. I get
it.
I'm not going to quote the entire article when what I want to comment
on is one paragraph.
Post by Fair Play
Doing their job properly means asking for ID as per their
instructions.
Asking for ID isn't the same as tracking ID, is it?
Post by Fair Play
The surveillance at entry,exit and POS is controlled from Bentonville
HQ.
So you say. Well, you and some guy on Yahoo Answers. Got anything a
LITTLE more substantial?
You're a hopeless case.
I'll take that as a "no."
You'll take [..]
that as a "no."
Too_Many_Tools
2012-07-23 23:07:13 UTC
Permalink
Post by Fair Play
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 02:25:58 -0700 (PDT), Alim Nassor
Post by Alim Nassor
Post by Too_Many_Tools
Post by Too_Many_Tools
In these days of computerized retail, it is a simple matter to follow
ammunition to its buyers.
Then I am reminded of all these idiot conservatives bragging about all
the ammo they have brought.
Looks like they have been doing the heavy lifting for the Government
to help find out who the potential terrorists are...the idiots with
the excessive amounts of ammo.
So go ahead...buy lots and lots of ammo...and make it on the national
terrorist list.
TMT
Movie theater gunman had been stockpiling arsenal
The Lookout -
(Barry Gutierrez/AP)
AURORA, Colo. — The gunman who blasted his way through a packed movie
house early on Friday, killing 12 people and injuring 58 others, had
apparently been planning his attack for weeks.
"In the last 60 days he purchased four guns at local metro gun shops,
and through the Internet he purchased over 6,000 rounds of
ammunition," Aurora Police Chief Daniel Oates said Friday night.
LOL...always entertaining to see conservatives readily admit how
stupid they are thinking that no one is watching them, tracking their
purchases and logging their movements in this age of data tracking.
One of those traits that we liberals find amusing....kind of like when
monkeys throw feces at each other.
TMT
Please explain for the class, how, if I drive to the Walmart 20 miles
from my house, walk in, pay cash and walk out, how was I monitored,
Please use all the electrons you think you need.
If they are doing their job properly( a BIG if I grant you),
you have been videoed with face recognition technology
on entry,exit and point of sale.
At the point of sale you have produced your photo ID/Driving license
which is scanned and entered into the system.
Of course Walmart being Walmart...- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
LOL...finally someone figures it out.

Good job.

TMT
Fair Play
2012-07-23 23:53:40 UTC
Permalink
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 16:07:13 -0700 (PDT), Too_Many_Tools
Post by Too_Many_Tools
Post by Fair Play
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 02:25:58 -0700 (PDT), Alim Nassor
Post by Alim Nassor
Post by Too_Many_Tools
Post by Too_Many_Tools
In these days of computerized retail, it is a simple matter to follow
ammunition to its buyers.
Then I am reminded of all these idiot conservatives bragging about all
the ammo they have brought.
Looks like they have been doing the heavy lifting for the Government
to help find out who the potential terrorists are...the idiots with
the excessive amounts of ammo.
So go ahead...buy lots and lots of ammo...and make it on the national
terrorist list.
TMT
Movie theater gunman had been stockpiling arsenal
The Lookout -
(Barry Gutierrez/AP)
AURORA, Colo. — The gunman who blasted his way through a packed movie
house early on Friday, killing 12 people and injuring 58 others, had
apparently been planning his attack for weeks.
"In the last 60 days he purchased four guns at local metro gun shops,
and through the Internet he purchased over 6,000 rounds of
ammunition," Aurora Police Chief Daniel Oates said Friday night.
LOL...always entertaining to see conservatives readily admit how
stupid they are thinking that no one is watching them, tracking their
purchases and logging their movements in this age of data tracking.
One of those traits that we liberals find amusing....kind of like when
monkeys throw feces at each other.
TMT
Please explain for the class, how, if I drive to the Walmart 20 miles
from my house, walk in, pay cash and walk out, how was I monitored,
Please use all the electrons you think you need.
If they are doing their job properly( a BIG if I grant you),
you have been videoed with face recognition technology
on entry,exit and point of sale.
At the point of sale you have produced your photo ID/Driving license
which is scanned and entered into the system.
Of course Walmart being Walmart...- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
LOL...finally someone figures it out.
Good job.
A voyage of discovery.

I didn't realize they have the second biggest computer in history next
to the Pentagon's and their own satellite network.


http://cryptome.org/eyeball/walmart/walmart-birds.htm

Wal-Mart's data center remains mystery

— By Max McCoy

Globe Investigative Writer

JANE, Mo. - Call it Area 71.

[Excerpt]

Behind a fence topped with razor wire just off U.S. Highway 71 is a
bunker of a building that Wal-Mart considers so secret that it won't
even let the county assessor inside without a nondisclosure agreement.

The 125,000-square-foot building, tucked behind a new Wal-Mart
Supercenter, is only a stone's throw from the Arkansas line and about
15 miles from corporate headquarters in Bentonville, Ark.

There is nothing about the building to give even a hint that Wal-Mart
owns it.

Despite the glimpses through the fence of manicured grass and
carefully placed trees, the overall impression is that this is a
secure site that could withstand just about anything. Earth is packed
against the sides. The green roof - meant, perhaps, to blend into the
surrounding Ozarks hills - bristles with dish antennas. On one of the
heavy steel gates at the guardhouse is a notice that visitors must use
the intercom for assistance.

What the building houses is a mystery.

Speculation

Wal-Mart's ability to crunch numbers is a favorite of conspiracy
theorists, and its data centers are the corporate counterpart to Area
51 at Groom Lake in the state of Nevada. According to one consumer
activist, Katherine Albrecht, even the wildest conspiracy buff might
be surprised at just how much Wal-Mart knows about its customers - and
how much more it would like to know.

"We were contacted about two years ago by somebody who runs a security
company that had been asked in a request for proposals for ways they
could link video footage with customers paying for their purchases,"
Albrecht said. "Wal-Mart would actually be able to view photos and
video of customers paying, say, for a pack of gum. At the time, it
struck me as unbelievably outlandish because of the amount of data
storage required."

But Wal-Mart, according to a 2004 New York Times article, had enough
storage capacity to contain twice the amount of all the information
available on the Internet. For the technically minded, the exact
amount was for 460 terabytes of data. The prefix tera comes from the
Greek word for monster, and a terabyte is a trillion bytes, the basic
unit of computer storage.

Albrecht, founder of Consumers Against Supermarket Privacy Invasion
and Numbering, said she never could confirm the contractor's story.
That is not surprising, since Wal-Mart seldom comments on its data
capabilities and operations.

A Globe request for information about the Jane data center was
referred at Wal-Mart headquarters to Carrie Thum, a senior information
officer and former lobbyist for the retailer.

"This is not something that we discuss publicly," Thum said. "We have
no comment. And that's off the record."






http://public.wsu.edu/~campbelld/engl402/walmart.htm

The company also deployed cutting-edge monitoring systems made by a
supplier to the U.S. Defense Department that allowed it to capture and
record the actions of anyone connected to its global computer network.
The systems' high-tech wizardry could detect the degree of flesh tone
on a viewed Internet image, and alerted monitors that a vendor sharing
Wal-Mart networks was viewing pornography.

The security operation and its surveillance technology "seems
Orwellian," says Robert K. West, founder and chief executive of
Echelon One, a security research and consulting firm composed largely
of former corporate chief information officers. Other activities, like
infiltrating critics' groups, went "beyond the scope of the typical
information security organization," he says.

Wal-Mart declined to give details about its surveillance activities. A
company spokeswoman, Sarah Clark, characterized its security
operations as normal: "Like most major corporations, it is our
corporate responsibility to have systems in place, including software
systems, to monitor threats to our network and our intellectual
property so we can protect our sensitive business information," she
said. "It is also standard practice to provide physical and
information security for our corporate events and for our board of
directors and senior executives."

According to several former Wal-Mart employees, the company's roughly
20-person Threat Research and Analysis Group hunts computer hackers
through cyberspace, trolls colleagues' emails looking for misbehavior
or proprietary-data theft and tries to plug damaging information
leaks.

Members work on the third floor of the Wal-Mart's Arkansas technology
offices. They enter a separate glass-enclosed structure by holding the
palm of their hand to a biometric reader that grants them access to a
dimly lit work area. Colleagues call it the "Bat Cave
Post by Too_Many_Tools
TMT
Scout
2012-07-24 00:03:32 UTC
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Post by Too_Many_Tools
In these days of computerized retail, it is a simple matter to follow
ammunition to its buyers.
Then I am reminded of all these idiot conservatives bragging about all
the ammo they have brought.
Looks like they have been doing the heavy lifting for the Government
to help find out who the potential terrorists are...the idiots with
the excessive amounts of ammo.
So go ahead...buy lots and lots of ammo...and make it on the national
terrorist list.
So what you're saying is that the Department of Homeland Security is
actually a terrorist organization?

After all, didn't they sign a contract to obtain up to 200 Million rounds of
.40S&W over the next five years?

http://www.winchester.com/library/news/Pages/Winchester-Awarded-Contract.aspx

Yep, looks like a "hot bed" of terrorists there according to TMT.

But then we all know TMT is pretty stupid and ignorant.


I
RogerN
2012-07-23 02:34:21 UTC
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Heading should say "Follow the liberal and find out who enables domestic
terrorists".

If liberals have their way then life will be much safer for domestic
terrorists, no law abiding citizens will have guns to defend themselves or
anyone else.

I enjoy watching the sport shooters on "Guns & Ammo" TV, some of these guys
can draw quickly and empty out a pistol in a second or so with every round
hitting the target. If one of those guys had been in the Colorado Theater
the outcome would have been a lot better for everyone except the gunman.
But it wasn't, thanks to the anti-gun liberals. (hint: if guns are illegal,
criminals will still have them, just not legally)

RogerN
Too_Many_Tools
2012-07-23 05:49:58 UTC
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Post by RogerN
Heading should say "Follow the liberal and find out who enables domestic
terrorists".
If liberals have their way then life will be much safer for domestic
terrorists, no law abiding citizens will have guns to defend themselves or
anyone else.
I enjoy watching the sport shooters on "Guns & Ammo" TV, some of these guys
can draw quickly and empty out a pistol in a second or so with every round
hitting the target.  If one of those guys had been in the Colorado Theater
the outcome would have been a lot better for everyone except the gunman.
But it wasn't, thanks to the anti-gun liberals.  (hint: if guns are illegal,
criminals will still have them, just not legally)
RogerN
Another fantasy Roger?

Is the theater full of little children when you start blazing with
both guns?

TMT
Alim Nassor
2012-07-23 09:33:38 UTC
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Post by Too_Many_Tools
Post by RogerN
Heading should say "Follow the liberal and find out who enables domestic
terrorists".
If liberals have their way then life will be much safer for domestic
terrorists, no law abiding citizens will have guns to defend themselves or
anyone else.
I enjoy watching the sport shooters on "Guns & Ammo" TV, some of these guys
can draw quickly and empty out a pistol in a second or so with every round
hitting the target.  If one of those guys had been in the Colorado Theater
the outcome would have been a lot better for everyone except the gunman.
But it wasn't, thanks to the anti-gun liberals.  (hint: if guns are illegal,
criminals will still have them, just not legally)
RogerN
Another fantasy Roger?
Is the theater full of little children when you start blazing with
both guns?
TMT
Just because you are a piss poor shot, don't assume everyone is.
Gunner Asch
2012-07-23 11:35:07 UTC
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On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 02:33:38 -0700 (PDT), Alim Nassor
Post by Too_Many_Tools
Post by RogerN
I enjoy watching the sport shooters on "Guns & Ammo" TV, some of these guys
can draw quickly and empty out a pistol in a second or so with every round
hitting the target.  If one of those guys had been in the Colorado Theater
the outcome would have been a lot better for everyone except the gunman.
But it wasn't, thanks to the anti-gun liberals.  (hint: if guns are illegal,
criminals will still have them, just not legally)
RogerN
Another fantasy Roger?
Is the theater full of little children when you start blazing with
both guns?
TMT
Guns are illegal in Chicago..yet last weekend...75 people were shot.
By criminals who cant legally own guns.

Yet TMT spews buffoonery. But then..he is mentally ill.

Gunner

--
"I was eating breakfast with my 13-year-old granddaughter
and I asked her, "What day is the 20th of February?"

She said "It's President's Day!"
(She is a smart kid.)
I asked "What does President's Day mean?"
I was waiting for something about Washington or Lincoln .... etc.
She replied, "President's Day is when President Obama steps out
of the White House, and if he sees his shadow we have
one more year of unemployment."
You know, it hurts when hot coffee spurts out your nose..."
California Shooter
2012-07-23 15:11:10 UTC
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In article <2e4f691c-2d52-4c21-83be-
Post by Too_Many_Tools
Post by RogerN
Heading should say "Follow the liberal and find out who enables domestic
terrorists".
If liberals have their way then life will be much safer for domestic
terrorists, no law abiding citizens will have guns to defend themselves o
r
Post by RogerN
anyone else.
I enjoy watching the sport shooters on "Guns & Ammo" TV, some of these gu
ys
Post by RogerN
can draw quickly and empty out a pistol in a second or so with every roun
d
Post by RogerN
hitting the target.  If one of those guys had been in the Colorado Thea
ter
Post by RogerN
the outcome would have been a lot better for everyone except the gunman.
But it wasn't, thanks to the anti-gun liberals.  (hint: if guns are ill
egal,
Post by RogerN
criminals will still have them, just not legally)
RogerN
Another fantasy Roger?
Is the theater full of little children when you start blazing with
both guns?
It must be in yours, or you wouldn't have said anything about it.

Laugh...laugh...laugh...
Post by Too_Many_Tools
TMT
RogerN
2012-07-28 13:56:38 UTC
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Billboard.

The sign features photos of Holmes and Obama side by side. Of Holmes, it
says: "Kills 12 in a movie theater with assault rifle, everyone freaks out."
Of Obama, it says: "Kills thousands with foreign policy, wins Nobel Peace
Prize."

http://www.kboi2.com/news/local/billboard-James-Holmes-Idaho-President-Obama-kboi-164065466.html

Obama supporters don't like it, but they don't like the truth.

RogerN
Stormin Mormon
2012-07-28 14:25:56 UTC
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I think it's a fair comparison.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.

"RogerN" <***@midwest.net> wrote in message news:***@earthlink.com...

Billboard.

The sign features photos of Holmes and Obama side by side. Of Holmes, it
says: "Kills 12 in a movie theater with assault rifle, everyone freaks out."
Of Obama, it says: "Kills thousands with foreign policy, wins Nobel Peace
Prize."

http://www.kboi2.com/news/local/billboard-James-Holmes-Idaho-President-Obama-kboi-164065466.html

Obama supporters don't like it, but they don't like the truth.

RogerN
MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE
2012-07-28 16:39:24 UTC
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"RogerN"
Post by RogerN
Billboard.
The sign features photos of Holmes and Obama side by side. Of Holmes, it
says: "Kills 12 in a movie theater with assault rifle, everyone freaks out."
Of Obama, it says: "Kills thousands with foreign policy, wins Nobel Peace
Prize."
http://www.kboi2.com/news/local/billboard-James-Holmes-Idaho-President-
Obama-kboi-164065466.html
Post by RogerN
Obama supporters don't like it, but they don't like the truth.
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When the TRUTH becomes a Liability
ALL PEOPLE become the Enemy.



Attention won't stay on 'perpetrator'
-- OBAMA'12 after thinking he's done the
important job of merely showing up.



LIBs. What PRICE their Vision?
---
236 YEARS OF HOPE PISSED AWAY IN LESS THAN FOUR


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=CZ-4gnNz0vc
FOUR YEARS OF OBAMA IN A NUTSHELL


If OBAMA WANTED AMERICA TO FAIL
To follow, not lead; to suffer, not prosper; to despair, not dream.

He would start with energy.

He’d cut off America’s supply of cheap, abundant energy. He couldn’t take
it by force. So, He’d make Americans feel guilty for using the energy that
heats their homes, fuels their cars, runs their businesses, and powers
their economy.

He’d make cheap energy expensive, so that expensive energy would seem
cheap.

He would empower unelected bureaucrats to all-but-outlaw America’s most
abundant sources of energy. And after banning its use in America, He’d
make it illegal for American companies to ship it overseas.

If OBAMA wanted America to fail

He’d use our schools to teach one generation of Americans that our
factories and our cars will cause a new Ice Age, and He’d muster a
straight face so he could teach the next generation that they’re causing
Global Warming.

And when it’s cold out, He’d call it Climate Change instead.

He’d imply that America’s cities and factories could run on wind power and
wishes. He’d teach children how to ignore the hypocrisy of condemning
logging, mining and farming while having roofs over their heads, heat in
their homes and food on their tables. He would never teach children that
the free market is the only force in human history to uplift the poor,
establish the middle class and create lasting prosperity.

Instead, He’d demonize prosperity itself, so that they will not miss what
they will never have.

If OBAMA wanted America to fail

He would create countless new regulations and seldom cancel old ones. They
would be so complicated that only bureaucrats, lawyers and lobbyists could
understand them. That way small businesses with big ideas wouldn’t stand a
chance and He would never have to worry about another Thomas Edison,
Henry Ford or Steve Jobs.

He would ridicule as Flat Earthers those who urge us to lower energy
costs by increasing supply. And when the evangelists of commonsense try to
remind people about the law of supply and demand, He’d enlist a
sympathetic media to drown them out.

If OBAMA wanted America to fail

He would empower unaccountable bureaucracies seated in a distant capitol
to bully Americans out of their dreams and their property rights. He’d
send federal agents to raid guitar factories for using the wrong kind of
wood; He’d force homeowners to tear down the homes they built on their own
land.

He’d make it almost impossible for farmers to farm, miners to mine,
loggers to log, and builders to build.

And because He don’t believe in free markets, He’d invent false ones. He’d
devise fictitious productslike carbon credits and trade them in imaginary
markets. He’d convince people that this would create jobs and be good for
the economy.

If OBAMA wanted America to fail For every concern, He’d invent a crisis;
and for every crisis, He’d invent the cause; Like shutting down entire
industries and killing tens of thousands of jobs in the name of saving
spotted owls. And when everyone learned the stunning irony that the owls
were victims of their larger cousins and not people, it would already be
decades too late.

If OBAMA wanted America to fail He’d make it easier to stop commerce than
start it easier to kill jobs than create them more fashionable to
resent success than to seek it. When industries seek to create jobs, He’d
file lawsuits to stop them. And then He’d make taxpayers pay for my
lawyers.

If OBAMA wanted America to fail He would transform the environmental
agenda
from a document of conservation to an economic suicide pact. He would
concede entire industries to our economic rivals by imposing regulations
that cost trillions. He would celebrate those who preach environmental
austerity in public while indulging a lavish lifestyle in private. He’d
convince Americans that Europe has it right, and America has it wrong.

If OBAMA wanted America to fail He would prey on the goodness and decency
of ordinary Americans. He would only need to convince them that all of
this is for the greater good. If OBAMA wanted America to fail, He wouldn’t
change a thing.




OBAMA2012:: DOING THE SAME THING, EXPECTING A DIFFERENT RESULT.



http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2012/04/01/energy_obamas_favorit
e_topic_of_deception_113692.html

Energy: Obama's Favorite Topic of Deception

NO PRESIDENT ever before has LIED
as frequently,
as Flagrantly or as
FOOLISHLY as has Barack Obama.
Freedom Man
2012-07-28 17:29:37 UTC
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CONSERVATIVES VS. LIBERALS: THE NATURE OF THE BEAST

It all began a hundred thousand years ago on a ledge in front of a
cave. A female homo sapiens walked by, attracting the attention of
a male. The male stepped forward and smacked her over the head with
his club. WHACK! He then dragged the unconscious female into his
cave for sex.

One day there were two males standing in front of a cave when a
female walked by. The first raised his arm to club the female, but
the second male communicated to him that clubbing females over the
head to have sex was not nice. WHACK! WHACK! The first male stepped
over the unconscious second male and proceeded to rape the female.
On that day the first liberal paid the price for expressing a new
idea.

Things didn't change much for thousands of years until the advent
of projectile weapons. This was first symbolized by the David and
Goliath story in the Bible, where the big strong brute was laid
flat by the small but smarter boy. Once brute strength was no
longer the controlling factor in social interaction, liberal ideas
slowly gained a foothold in human culture, and civilization began.

Throughout human history, the price for advocating tolerance and
progressive change has been paid in threats, beatings,
excommunication, incarceration, torture, murder, assassination, and
execution. Countless liberals have paid the ultimate price for
their humanity. Though Jesus Christ is the most famous, names in
recent history that come to mind are Gandhi, Martin Luther King
Jr., John Lennon, and Robert Kennedy.

Today there are many conservatives - individuals, groups, and
nations - who use threats and violence to silence the voices of
reason, tolerance, and progress. Here in America it is seen in
racists and homophobes beating blacks and gays, sometimes to death,
not for money or out of anger generated by interactive cause, but
because of religious or racial intolerance and secular bigotry.

Alan Berg on talk radio was a strong voice against a conservative
organization called the Aryan Nation. For thus exercising his
freedom of speech, he was shot dead while walking his dog in front
of his house.

David Rice is a man on death row in Washington State who has no
remorse whatsoever for entering the home of a family of four and
carving out their living hearts only because he heard they were
"liberals." He got their names from a Democratic Party membership
list.

Right-wingers Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols killed 168 men,
women, and children as an act of protest. What liberals have ever
committed such an abominable atrocity?

The most abominable atrocity in several decades is the 9/11
terrorist attacks in which thousands of innocent civilians were
murdered. The alleged perpetrators, Osama Bin Laden and the al
Qaeda-Taliban terrorists, epitomize the right-wing religious
fundamentalist mentality.

Some believe that the 9/11 attacks were deliberately allowed to happen,
exacerbated, or even perpetrated by radical right-wing elements within
our own government to further their fascistic agenda. Two buildings
were hit by planes, but THREE collapsed. The evidence that the three
collapsed buildings were brought down with demolition explosives put in
place BEFORE the attacks is very strong.

Arguing that such horrendous crimes are not political in nature or
that they are not done primarily by conservatives is utter
nonsense. Look back:

Who nailed who to a cross?

Who were the Loyalists to the totalitarian monarchy of King George?

Who started our Civil War to defend slavery?

Who fought to keep women as property, and now fights their
sovereignty over their own bodies in the freedom to choose
abortion?

Who fought against child labor statutes?

Who fought against the concept of free public education?

Who fought against the right of women to vote?

Who fought against anti-trust and anti-monopoly legislation?

Who fought against workers organizing?

Who fought against government controls on manufacturers of cars
"unsafe at any speed?"

Who killed several thousand innocent civilians in the 9/11
terrorist attacks?

Who started WW2, murdered 13 million and caused the death of 40
million more?

Who defended Jim Crow for a hundred years?

Who fought against voting rights, civil rights, social security,
health care for the elderly, and minimum wages?

Who fights against environmental protection statutes?

Who opposes equal rights for gays and other free-lifestyle
minorities?

Who cruelly opposes physician-assisted dying for suffering,
terminally ill patients soon to die anyway?

Who is sabotaging the separation of Church and State, and all our
other Constitutional rights, freedoms, and protections?

Who are the moralizing hypocrites forcing their puritanical
inhibitions and prohibitions on ALL Americans via legislation and
draconian, police-state enforcement practices?

Who always puts personal gain and corporate wealth and power above
the common good?

CONSERVATIVES OR LIBERALS?

The historic, undeniable truth is that these evils are THE NATURE
OF THE CONSERVATIVE BEAST!

Conservatives have distorted and demonized the word "liberal,"
whose true political meaning is favoring progressive change,
humanistic values, and opposition to authoritarianism. They
identify it with governmental waste and tolerance of criminality,
when in fact they themselves are guilty of abuses such as corporate
welfare bail-outs and tax evasion, fraud against investors, and
other white-collar crime. Conservatives fear and oppose all change
and progress beyond "what's in it for me?"

At the core of conservatism is the Machiavellian bully - the
despotic practitioner of "might makes right," craving wealth and
power, and willing to use any and all means to get them.
Conservatism is the philosophy of the caveman wearing a business
suit.

AND THE CAVEMENS' CLUBS CAN NOW DESTROY OUR EARTH!
MANFRED the heat seeking OBOE
2012-07-28 21:21:08 UTC
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http://media.kboi2.com/images/090727_controversial_sign1.jpg

When the TRUTH becomes a Liability
ALL PEOPLE become the Enemy.


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What do you mean WE Paleface?

"We'll actually have to work very hard to kill
as many people in the 21st century.
What's the difference?
This time, you think the victim could be you,"
Clinton'07



LIBs. What FARCE their Vision?
---
For his part, OBAMA has merely put Clinton to shame
in showing us all how actually-easy it was to do.


History repeating itself, first as Tragedy

"to leave now we would send a message to terrorists
and other potential adversaries around the world that
they can change our policies by killing our people.
It would be open season on Americans."
-- Bill Clinton '93
just before he pulled out of Somalia.


Then as FARCE!

To abandon this area now -- and to rely only on efforts against
alQaeda from a distance -- would significantly hamper our ability to
keep the pressure on al Qaeda, and create an unacceptable risk of
additional attacks on our homeland and our allies.
-- OBAMA'09


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SHAMELESS EVIL POLITICO


"Every aspect of our lives must be subjected to an inventory"
-- Shameless Politico THUG, Nancy Pelosi'09 in Red China.

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