Portland

[vallor]

Report from a FOAF -- interested in comments from ng denizens:

_ _ _ _ _ _ _
While I've been sort of following the ongoing events in Portland, I was
floored by the information I recently received from my father-in-law,
Alden Roberts. It is incredibly important that people know what is
happening in Portland, because it is very scary and has very real
implications for our entire country.
By way of context, Alden is a general surgeon, retired as the Chief
Medical Officer of a hospital in Vancouver, Washington, and just finished
his term as the Chairman of the Washington Medical Commission (the state
agency that licenses and oversees all doctors in the state). I share
this information to emphasize that he is a community leader, a very
smart, educated, and informed person, and is not one to exaggerate or
spread misinformation.
Here’s what he has observed in Portland over the past few days:
"1. The protests are confined to a 2 block radius around the courthouse,
and if you’re 4 blocks away, you can’t tell anything has been happening.
There is nothing going on outside of that region, and Portland is
functioning as normally as the Pandemic will allow. It is not burning,
nor is it out of control.
2. The protesters are absolutely peaceful at the Protests that I have
been part of, and with the exception of graffiti, are completely within
their constitutional rights to protest. The protests involve singing,
chanting, and have used “white walls” to block whites who are trying to
disrupt or corrupt the protests. Yes, cursing is rather commonplace. More
than ½ of the protesters are white. All are protesting for Black Lives
Matter, although the entrance of the federal paramilitary force has
brought out a lot of people, including myself, who are incensed at the
use of unregulated federal force against law abiding citizen and against
the will of the state and local governments.
3. ALL of the protesters are wearing masks to minimize transmission of
CoV-2. However, as at times there are 1000 or more of us, it is hard
(though not impossible) to maintain social distancing. When the federal
paramilitary force is deployed, it becomes impossible.
4. The Police responded unprovoked and were brutal, but nothing like the
paramilitary force. There is a court order that forbids the police to use
teargas. I was not there when it was just the police.
5. At the protests I have attended, I did not witness any unlawfulness on
the part of the protesters. Each time, the federal paramilitary
personnel launched an apparently unprovoked attack. There have been no
“riots.” The federal paramilitary force has had no training in crowd
control, has no oversight, was not invited to Portland by local
leadership, does not have any form of identification do not wear name
badges, and wears military camo. They are heavily armed with flash-bang
grenades, less-lethal bullets, pepper bullets, pepper spray and tear
gas. They will pull goggles off of protesters and spray pepper spray
into their eyes. They used a baton to beat a US Navy vet, broke his hand
and sprayed pepper spray in his eyes because he asked why they weren’t
honoring their vow to protect the constitution. During the assault, he
stood still and did not resist until blinded by the pepper spray, he
turned around and walked away. The “line of mothers” on Sunday was gassed
and shot with less-lethal bullets for chanting Black Lives Matter. At
least one was pregnant. A protester holding a sign up with both hands
was shot in the head with a “non-lethal” bullet and will likely have
permanent brain damage. While I have not personally seen this, there are
videos of people being kidnapped into unmarked vans by the federal
paramilitaries as they left the protests, held for a couple of days,
interrogated, then released without charges or explanation. At this
time, re-read my first two points. The protests are no threat to
Portland and only encompass a 2 block area. They have been peaceful, with
graffiti as the only illegal activity. They are well controlled and
supported by a cross section of Portlanders. There is no reason for the
federal government to be involved, and the excessive force being used
appears to be nothing more than a political show of force against US
Citizens by the Trump administration.
6. About 3000 protesters showed up last night (July 21); all with masks,
very well behaved. Certainly no chaos, no violence on the part of the
protesters. I left at 10:30, the paramilitary attacked at 12:30. I
spent an hour talking to the medics. They say they are being targeted by
the paramilitary personnel. They are often the first to be shot at and
tear gassed. When they try to help an injured protester, the
paramilitary personnel throw flash-bangs and tear gas at them (they carry
gas masks). One of them was beaten, dragged away from the injured person
they were treating and arrested. They are from OHSU as well as Portland
Fire.
7. The Elk statue was taken down by the Police to “protect” it, but the
Elk statue was a favorite of the protesters because it was
uncontroversial; so they got a blow-up elk and put it where the real
statue used to stand. It’s sort of a rallying point."
This should concern, if not terrify, all of us. This is an unidentified
and unaccountable federal police presence attacking American citizens who
are not violating any federal laws. This is literally how the "secret
police" in other authoritarian regimes began. The comparison to the
early stages of Nazi Germany is NOT AN EXAGGERATION anymore.
Silence is complacency. Please share this post. Please spread this
information. Please get involved. Do not allow or condone this conduct
by our federal government. I don't care which political party you
support, this is an affront to the U.S. Constitution and the founding
principals of our nation.
_ _ _ _ _ _

[Joel]

One word: yep.

[Pandora]

Post by vallor
_ _ _ _ _ _ _
While I've been sort of following the ongoing events in Portland, I was
floored by the information I recently received from my father-in-law,
Alden Roberts. It is incredibly important that people know what is
happening in Portland, because it is very scary and has very real
implications for our entire country.
By way of context, Alden is a general surgeon, retired as the Chief
Medical Officer of a hospital in Vancouver, Washington, and just
finished his term as the Chairman of the Washington Medical Commission
(the state agency that licenses and oversees all doctors in the state).
I share this information to emphasize that he is a community leader, a
very smart, educated, and informed person, and is not one to exaggerate
or spread misinformation.
"1. The protests are confined to a 2 block radius around the courthouse,
and if you’re 4 blocks away, you can’t tell anything has been happening.
There is nothing going on outside of that region, and Portland is
functioning as normally as the Pandemic will allow. It is not burning,
nor is it out of control.
2. The protesters are absolutely peaceful at the Protests that I have
been part of, and with the exception of graffiti, are completely within
their constitutional rights to protest. The protests involve singing,
chanting, and have used “white walls” to block whites who are trying to
disrupt or corrupt the protests. Yes, cursing is rather commonplace.
More than ½ of the protesters are white. All are protesting for Black
Lives Matter, although the entrance of the federal paramilitary force
has brought out a lot of people, including myself, who are incensed at
the use of unregulated federal force against law abiding citizen and
against the will of the state and local governments.
3. ALL of the protesters are wearing masks to minimize transmission of
CoV-2. However, as at times there are 1000 or more of us, it is hard
(though not impossible) to maintain social distancing. When the
federal paramilitary force is deployed, it becomes impossible.
4. The Police responded unprovoked and were brutal, but nothing like the
paramilitary force. There is a court order that forbids the police to
use teargas. I was not there when it was just the police.
5. At the protests I have attended, I did not witness any unlawfulness
on the part of the protesters. Each time, the federal paramilitary
personnel launched an apparently unprovoked attack. There have been no
“riots.” The federal paramilitary force has had no training in crowd
control, has no oversight, was not invited to Portland by local
leadership, does not have any form of identification do not wear name
badges, and wears military camo. They are heavily armed with flash-bang
grenades, less-lethal bullets, pepper bullets, pepper spray and tear
gas. They will pull goggles off of protesters and spray pepper spray
into their eyes. They used a baton to beat a US Navy vet, broke his
hand and sprayed pepper spray in his eyes because he asked why they
weren’t honoring their vow to protect the constitution. During the
assault, he stood still and did not resist until blinded by the pepper
spray, he turned around and walked away. The “line of mothers” on Sunday
was gassed and shot with less-lethal bullets for chanting Black Lives
Matter. At least one was pregnant. A protester holding a sign up with
both hands was shot in the head with a “non-lethal” bullet and will
likely have permanent brain damage. While I have not personally seen
this, there are videos of people being kidnapped into unmarked vans by
the federal paramilitaries as they left the protests, held for a couple
of days, interrogated, then released without charges or explanation. At
this time, re-read my first two points. The protests are no threat to
Portland and only encompass a 2 block area. They have been peaceful,
with graffiti as the only illegal activity. They are well controlled
and supported by a cross section of Portlanders. There is no reason for
the federal government to be involved, and the excessive force being
used appears to be nothing more than a political show of force against
US Citizens by the Trump administration.
6. About 3000 protesters showed up last night (July 21); all with masks,
very well behaved. Certainly no chaos, no violence on the part of the
protesters. I left at 10:30, the paramilitary attacked at 12:30. I
spent an hour talking to the medics. They say they are being targeted
by the paramilitary personnel. They are often the first to be shot at
and tear gassed. When they try to help an injured protester, the
paramilitary personnel throw flash-bangs and tear gas at them (they
carry gas masks). One of them was beaten, dragged away from the injured
person they were treating and arrested. They are from OHSU as well as
Portland Fire.
7. The Elk statue was taken down by the Police to “protect” it, but the
Elk statue was a favorite of the protesters because it was
uncontroversial; so they got a blow-up elk and put it where the real
statue used to stand. It’s sort of a rallying point."
This should concern, if not terrify, all of us. This is an unidentified
and unaccountable federal police presence attacking American citizens
who are not violating any federal laws. This is literally how the
"secret police" in other authoritarian regimes began. The comparison to
the early stages of Nazi Germany is NOT AN EXAGGERATION anymore.
Silence is complacency. Please share this post. Please spread this
information. Please get involved. Do not allow or condone this conduct
by our federal government. I don't care which political party you
support, this is an affront to the U.S. Constitution and the founding
principals of our nation.
_ _ _ _ _ _

Thank you for this post. It is what I have heard from protesters as well.

[Phantom_View]

Post by Pandora

Post by vallor
_ _ _ _ _ _ _
While I've been sort of following the ongoing events in Portland, I was
floored by the information I recently received from my father-in-law,
Alden Roberts. It is incredibly important that people know what is
happening in Portland, because it is very scary and has very real
implications for our entire country.
By way of context, Alden is a general surgeon, retired as the Chief
Medical Officer of a hospital in Vancouver, Washington, and just
finished his term as the Chairman of the Washington Medical Commission
(the state agency that licenses and oversees all doctors in the state).
I share this information to emphasize that he is a community leader, a
very smart, educated, and informed person, and is not one to exaggerate
or spread misinformation.
"1. The protests are confined to a 2 block radius around the courthouse,
and if you’re 4 blocks away, you can’t tell anything has been happening.
There is nothing going on outside of that region, and Portland is
functioning as normally as the Pandemic will allow. It is not burning,
nor is it out of control.
2. The protesters are absolutely peaceful at the Protests that I have
been part of, and with the exception of graffiti, are completely within
their constitutional rights to protest. The protests involve singing,
chanting, and have used “white walls” to block whites who are trying to
disrupt or corrupt the protests. Yes, cursing is rather commonplace.
More than ½ of the protesters are white. All are protesting for Black
Lives Matter, although the entrance of the federal paramilitary force
has brought out a lot of people, including myself, who are incensed at
the use of unregulated federal force against law abiding citizen and
against the will of the state and local governments.
3. ALL of the protesters are wearing masks to minimize transmission of
CoV-2. However, as at times there are 1000 or more of us, it is hard
(though not impossible) to maintain social distancing. When the
federal paramilitary force is deployed, it becomes impossible.
4. The Police responded unprovoked and were brutal, but nothing like the
paramilitary force. There is a court order that forbids the police to
use teargas. I was not there when it was just the police.
5. At the protests I have attended, I did not witness any unlawfulness
on the part of the protesters. Each time, the federal paramilitary
personnel launched an apparently unprovoked attack. There have been no
“riots.” The federal paramilitary force has had no training in crowd
control, has no oversight, was not invited to Portland by local
leadership, does not have any form of identification do not wear name
badges, and wears military camo. They are heavily armed with flash-bang
grenades, less-lethal bullets, pepper bullets, pepper spray and tear
gas. They will pull goggles off of protesters and spray pepper spray
into their eyes. They used a baton to beat a US Navy vet, broke his
hand and sprayed pepper spray in his eyes because he asked why they
weren’t honoring their vow to protect the constitution. During the
assault, he stood still and did not resist until blinded by the pepper
spray, he turned around and walked away. The “line of mothers” on Sunday
was gassed and shot with less-lethal bullets for chanting Black Lives
Matter. At least one was pregnant. A protester holding a sign up with
both hands was shot in the head with a “non-lethal” bullet and will
likely have permanent brain damage. While I have not personally seen
this, there are videos of people being kidnapped into unmarked vans by
the federal paramilitaries as they left the protests, held for a couple
of days, interrogated, then released without charges or explanation. At
this time, re-read my first two points. The protests are no threat to
Portland and only encompass a 2 block area. They have been peaceful,
with graffiti as the only illegal activity. They are well controlled
and supported by a cross section of Portlanders. There is no reason for
the federal government to be involved, and the excessive force being
used appears to be nothing more than a political show of force against
US Citizens by the Trump administration.
6. About 3000 protesters showed up last night (July 21); all with masks,
very well behaved. Certainly no chaos, no violence on the part of the
protesters. I left at 10:30, the paramilitary attacked at 12:30. I
spent an hour talking to the medics. They say they are being targeted
by the paramilitary personnel. They are often the first to be shot at
and tear gassed. When they try to help an injured protester, the
paramilitary personnel throw flash-bangs and tear gas at them (they
carry gas masks). One of them was beaten, dragged away from the injured
person they were treating and arrested. They are from OHSU as well as
Portland Fire.
7. The Elk statue was taken down by the Police to “protect” it, but the
Elk statue was a favorite of the protesters because it was
uncontroversial; so they got a blow-up elk and put it where the real
statue used to stand. It’s sort of a rallying point."
This should concern, if not terrify, all of us. This is an unidentified
and unaccountable federal police presence attacking American citizens
who are not violating any federal laws. This is literally how the
"secret police" in other authoritarian regimes began. The comparison to
the early stages of Nazi Germany is NOT AN EXAGGERATION anymore.
Silence is complacency. Please share this post. Please spread this
information. Please get involved. Do not allow or condone this conduct
by our federal government. I don't care which political party you
support, this is an affront to the U.S. Constitution and the founding
principals of our nation.
_ _ _ _ _ _

Thank you for this post. It is what I have heard from protesters as well.

Yep, that is how extremists work. Agitate, threaten,
create chaos, persecute, attack institutions and the
law - until the idiot politicians think that giving in is the
easier path.

Then retrench and start again, this time with a stronger,
"accepted", power base. Repeat.

Fight them and you are The Enemy and you make martyrs
of their righteous. You will be purged, burned-out, maybe
just exterminated. Terror will dissuade the rest.

So, alas, we need an ANTICOM that will take them on
using equivalent tactics. Things suck when you have
to use extremists to "balance" extremists - but the
American center has become too weak to serve as
a damper/counterweight.

[Janithor]

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Post by Phantom_View

Post by Pandora

Post by vallor
_ _ _ _ _ _ _
While I've been sort of following the ongoing events in Portland, I was
floored by the information I recently received from my father-in-law,
Alden Roberts. It is incredibly important that people know what is
happening in Portland, because it is very scary and has very real
implications for our entire country.
By way of context, Alden is a general surgeon, retired as the Chief
Medical Officer of a hospital in Vancouver, Washington, and just
finished his term as the Chairman of the Washington Medical Commission
(the state agency that licenses and oversees all doctors in the state).
I share this information to emphasize that he is a community leader, a
very smart, educated, and informed person, and is not one to exaggerate
or spread misinformation.
"1. The protests are confined to a 2 block radius around the courthouse,
and if you’re 4 blocks away, you can’t tell anything has been happening.
There is nothing going on outside of that region, and Portland is
functioning as normally as the Pandemic will allow. It is not burning,
nor is it out of control.
2. The protesters are absolutely peaceful at the Protests that I have
been part of, and with the exception of graffiti, are completely within
their constitutional rights to protest. The protests involve singing,
chanting, and have used “white walls” to block whites who are trying to
disrupt or corrupt the protests. Yes, cursing is rather commonplace.
More than ½ of the protesters are white. All are protesting for Black
Lives Matter, although the entrance of the federal paramilitary force
has brought out a lot of people, including myself, who are incensed at
the use of unregulated federal force against law abiding citizen and
against the will of the state and local governments.
3. ALL of the protesters are wearing masks to minimize transmission of
CoV-2. However, as at times there are 1000 or more of us, it is hard
(though not impossible) to maintain social distancing. When the
federal paramilitary force is deployed, it becomes impossible.
4. The Police responded unprovoked and were brutal, but nothing like the
paramilitary force. There is a court order that forbids the police to
use teargas. I was not there when it was just the police.
5. At the protests I have attended, I did not witness any unlawfulness
on the part of the protesters. Each time, the federal paramilitary
personnel launched an apparently unprovoked attack. There have been no
“riots.” The federal paramilitary force has had no training in crowd
control, has no oversight, was not invited to Portland by local
leadership, does not have any form of identification do not wear name
badges, and wears military camo. They are heavily armed with flash-bang
grenades, less-lethal bullets, pepper bullets, pepper spray and tear
gas. They will pull goggles off of protesters and spray pepper spray
into their eyes. They used a baton to beat a US Navy vet, broke his
hand and sprayed pepper spray in his eyes because he asked why they
weren’t honoring their vow to protect the constitution. During the
assault, he stood still and did not resist until blinded by the pepper
spray, he turned around and walked away. The “line of mothers” on Sunday
was gassed and shot with less-lethal bullets for chanting Black Lives
Matter. At least one was pregnant. A protester holding a sign up with
both hands was shot in the head with a “non-lethal” bullet and will
likely have permanent brain damage. While I have not personally seen
this, there are videos of people being kidnapped into unmarked vans by
the federal paramilitaries as they left the protests, held for a couple
of days, interrogated, then released without charges or explanation. At
this time, re-read my first two points. The protests are no threat to
Portland and only encompass a 2 block area. They have been peaceful,
with graffiti as the only illegal activity. They are well controlled
and supported by a cross section of Portlanders. There is no reason for
the federal government to be involved, and the excessive force being
used appears to be nothing more than a political show of force against
US Citizens by the Trump administration.
6. About 3000 protesters showed up last night (July 21); all with masks,
very well behaved. Certainly no chaos, no violence on the part of the
protesters. I left at 10:30, the paramilitary attacked at 12:30. I
spent an hour talking to the medics. They say they are being targeted
by the paramilitary personnel. They are often the first to be shot at
and tear gassed. When they try to help an injured protester, the
paramilitary personnel throw flash-bangs and tear gas at them (they
carry gas masks). One of them was beaten, dragged away from the injured
person they were treating and arrested. They are from OHSU as well as
Portland Fire.
7. The Elk statue was taken down by the Police to “protect” it, but the
Elk statue was a favorite of the protesters because it was
uncontroversial; so they got a blow-up elk and put it where the real
statue used to stand. It’s sort of a rallying point."
This should concern, if not terrify, all of us. This is an unidentified
and unaccountable federal police presence attacking American citizens
who are not violating any federal laws. This is literally how the
"secret police" in other authoritarian regimes began. The comparison to
the early stages of Nazi Germany is NOT AN EXAGGERATION anymore.
Silence is complacency. Please share this post. Please spread this
information. Please get involved. Do not allow or condone this conduct
by our federal government. I don't care which political party you
support, this is an affront to the U.S. Constitution and the founding
principals of our nation.
_ _ _ _ _ _

Thank you for this post. It is what I have heard from protesters as well.

Yep, that is how extremists work. Agitate, threaten,
create chaos, persecute, attack institutions and the
law - until the idiot politicians think that giving in is the
easier path.
Then retrench and start again, this time with a stronger,
"accepted", power base. Repeat.
Fight them and you are The Enemy and you make martyrs
of their righteous. You will be purged, burned-out, maybe
just exterminated. Terror will dissuade the rest.
So, alas, we need an ANTICOM that will take them on
using equivalent tactics. Things suck when you have
to use extremists to "balance" extremists - but the
American center has become too weak to serve as
a damper/counterweight.

Unfortunately that seems to be where we are heading.

[%]

Post by Janithor
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  _ _ _ _ _ _ _
While I've been sort of following the ongoing events in Portland, I was
floored by the information I recently received from my father-in-law,
Alden Roberts.  It is incredibly important that people know what is
happening in Portland, because it is very scary and has very real
implications for our entire country.
By way of context, Alden is a general surgeon, retired as the Chief
Medical Officer of a hospital in Vancouver, Washington, and just
finished his term as the Chairman of the Washington Medical Commission
(the state agency that licenses and oversees all doctors in the state).
I share this information to emphasize that he is a community leader, a
very smart, educated, and informed person, and is not one to exaggerate
or spread misinformation.
"1. The protests are confined to a 2 block radius around the courthouse,
and if you’re 4 blocks away, you can’t tell anything has been happening.
There is nothing going on outside of that region, and Portland is
functioning as normally as the Pandemic will allow.  It is not burning,
nor is it out of control.
2. The protesters are absolutely peaceful at the Protests that I have
been part of, and with the exception of graffiti, are completely within
their constitutional rights to protest.  The protests involve singing,
chanting, and have used “white walls” to block whites who are trying to
disrupt or corrupt the protests. Yes, cursing is rather commonplace.
More than ½ of the protesters are white.  All are protesting for Black
Lives Matter, although the entrance of the federal paramilitary force
has brought out a lot of people, including myself, who are incensed at
the use of unregulated federal force against law abiding citizen and
against the will of the state and local governments.
3. ALL of the protesters are wearing masks to minimize transmission of
CoV-2.  However, as at times there are 1000 or more of us, it is hard
(though not impossible) to maintain social distancing.  When  the
federal paramilitary force is deployed, it becomes impossible.
4. The Police responded unprovoked and were brutal, but nothing like the
paramilitary force. There is a court order that forbids the police to
use teargas. I was not there when it was just the police.
5. At the protests I have attended, I did not witness any unlawfulness
on the part of the protesters.  Each time, the federal paramilitary
personnel launched an apparently unprovoked attack. There have been no
“riots.” The federal paramilitary force has had no training in crowd
control, has no oversight, was not invited to Portland by local
leadership, does not have any form of identification do not wear name
badges, and wears military camo. They are heavily armed with flash-bang
grenades, less-lethal bullets, pepper bullets, pepper spray and tear
gas.  They will pull goggles off of protesters and spray pepper spray
into their eyes.  They used a baton to beat a US Navy vet, broke his
hand and sprayed pepper spray in his eyes because he asked why they
weren’t honoring their vow to protect the constitution.  During the
assault, he stood still and did not resist until blinded by the pepper
spray, he turned around and walked away. The “line of mothers” on Sunday
was gassed and shot with less-lethal bullets for chanting Black Lives
Matter. At least one was pregnant.  A protester holding a sign up with
both hands was shot in the head with a “non-lethal” bullet and will
likely have permanent brain damage. While I have not personally seen
this, there are videos of people being kidnapped into unmarked vans by
the federal paramilitaries as they left the protests, held for a couple
of days, interrogated, then released without charges or
explanation.  At
this time, re-read my first two points.  The protests are no threat to
Portland and only encompass a 2 block area. They have been peaceful,
with graffiti as the only illegal activity.  They are well controlled
and supported by a cross section of Portlanders.  There is no reason
for
the federal government to be involved, and the excessive force being
used appears to be nothing more than a political show of force against
US Citizens by the Trump administration.
6. About 3000 protesters showed up last night (July 21); all with masks,
very well behaved.  Certainly no chaos, no violence on the part of the
protesters.  I left at 10:30, the paramilitary attacked at 12:30.  I
spent an hour talking to the medics.  They say they are being targeted
by the paramilitary personnel.  They are often the first to be shot at
and tear gassed.  When they try to help an injured protester, the
paramilitary personnel throw flash-bangs and tear gas at them (they
carry gas masks).  One of them was beaten, dragged away from the
injured
person they were treating and arrested. They are from OHSU as well as
Portland Fire.
7. The Elk statue was taken down by the Police to “protect” it, but the
Elk statue was a favorite of the protesters because it was
uncontroversial; so they got a blow-up elk and put it where the real
statue used to stand.  It’s sort of a rallying point."
This should concern, if not terrify, all of us.  This is an
unidentified
and unaccountable federal police presence attacking American citizens
who are not violating any federal laws.  This is literally how the
"secret police" in other authoritarian regimes began.  The
comparison to
the early stages of Nazi Germany is NOT AN EXAGGERATION anymore.
Silence is complacency.  Please share this post.  Please spread this
information.  Please get involved.  Do not allow or condone this
conduct
by our federal government.  I don't care which political party you
support, this is an affront to the U.S. Constitution and the founding
principals of our nation.
  _ _ _ _ _ _

Thank you for this post.  It is what I have heard from protesters as
well.

    Yep, that is how extremists work. Agitate, threaten,
    create chaos, persecute, attack institutions and the
    law - until the idiot politicians think that giving in is the
    easier path.
    Then retrench and start again, this time with a stronger,
    "accepted", power base. Repeat.
    Fight them and you are The Enemy and you make martyrs
    of their righteous. You will be purged, burned-out, maybe
    just exterminated. Terror will dissuade the rest.
    So, alas, we need an ANTICOM that will take them on
    using equivalent tactics. Things suck when you have
    to use extremists to "balance" extremists - but the
    American center has become too weak to serve as
    a damper/counterweight.

Unfortunately that seems to be where we are heading.

you guys sure are heading to a fk of a lot of places

[The Right And The Powerful]

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Post by Janithor
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  _ _ _ _ _ _ _
While I've been sort of following the ongoing events in Portland, I was
floored by the information I recently received from my father-in-law,
Alden Roberts.  It is incredibly important that people know what is
happening in Portland, because it is very scary and has very real
implications for our entire country.
By way of context, Alden is a general surgeon, retired as the Chief
Medical Officer of a hospital in Vancouver, Washington, and just
finished his term as the Chairman of the Washington Medical Commission
(the state agency that licenses and oversees all doctors in the state).
I share this information to emphasize that he is a community leader, a
very smart, educated, and informed person, and is not one to exaggerate
or spread misinformation.
"1. The protests are confined to a 2 block radius around the courthouse,
and if you’re 4 blocks away, you can’t tell anything has been happening.
There is nothing going on outside of that region, and Portland is
functioning as normally as the Pandemic will allow.  It is not burning,
nor is it out of control.
2. The protesters are absolutely peaceful at the Protests that I have
been part of, and with the exception of graffiti, are completely within
their constitutional rights to protest.  The protests involve singing,
chanting, and have used “white walls” to block whites who are trying to
disrupt or corrupt the protests. Yes, cursing is rather commonplace.
More than ½ of the protesters are white.  All are protesting for Black
Lives Matter, although the entrance of the federal paramilitary force
has brought out a lot of people, including myself, who are incensed at
the use of unregulated federal force against law abiding citizen and
against the will of the state and local governments.
3. ALL of the protesters are wearing masks to minimize transmission of
CoV-2.  However, as at times there are 1000 or more of us, it is hard
(though not impossible) to maintain social distancing.  When  the
federal paramilitary force is deployed, it becomes impossible.
4. The Police responded unprovoked and were brutal, but nothing like the
paramilitary force. There is a court order that forbids the police to
use teargas. I was not there when it was just the police.
5. At the protests I have attended, I did not witness any unlawfulness
on the part of the protesters.  Each time, the federal paramilitary
personnel launched an apparently unprovoked attack. There have been no
“riots.” The federal paramilitary force has had no training in crowd
control, has no oversight, was not invited to Portland by local
leadership, does not have any form of identification do not wear name
badges, and wears military camo. They are heavily armed with flash-bang
grenades, less-lethal bullets, pepper bullets, pepper spray and tear
gas.  They will pull goggles off of protesters and spray pepper spray
into their eyes.  They used a baton to beat a US Navy vet, broke his
hand and sprayed pepper spray in his eyes because he asked why they
weren’t honoring their vow to protect the constitution.  During the
assault, he stood still and did not resist until blinded by the pepper
spray, he turned around and walked away. The “line of mothers” on Sunday
was gassed and shot with less-lethal bullets for chanting Black Lives
Matter. At least one was pregnant.  A protester holding a sign up with
both hands was shot in the head with a “non-lethal” bullet and will
likely have permanent brain damage. While I have not personally seen
this, there are videos of people being kidnapped into unmarked vans by
the federal paramilitaries as they left the protests, held for a couple
of days, interrogated, then released without charges or
explanation.  At
this time, re-read my first two points.  The protests are no threat to
Portland and only encompass a 2 block area. They have been peaceful,
with graffiti as the only illegal activity.  They are well controlled
and supported by a cross section of Portlanders.  There is no reason
for
the federal government to be involved, and the excessive force being
used appears to be nothing more than a political show of force against
US Citizens by the Trump administration.
6. About 3000 protesters showed up last night (July 21); all with masks,
very well behaved.  Certainly no chaos, no violence on the part of the
protesters.  I left at 10:30, the paramilitary attacked at 12:30.  I
spent an hour talking to the medics.  They say they are being targeted
by the paramilitary personnel.  They are often the first to be shot at
and tear gassed.  When they try to help an injured protester, the
paramilitary personnel throw flash-bangs and tear gas at them (they
carry gas masks).  One of them was beaten, dragged away from the
injured
person they were treating and arrested. They are from OHSU as well as
Portland Fire.
7. The Elk statue was taken down by the Police to “protect” it, but the
Elk statue was a favorite of the protesters because it was
uncontroversial; so they got a blow-up elk and put it where the real
statue used to stand.  It’s sort of a rallying point."
This should concern, if not terrify, all of us.  This is an
unidentified
and unaccountable federal police presence attacking American citizens
who are not violating any federal laws.  This is literally how the
"secret police" in other authoritarian regimes began.  The
comparison to
the early stages of Nazi Germany is NOT AN EXAGGERATION anymore.
Silence is complacency.  Please share this post.  Please spread this
information.  Please get involved.  Do not allow or condone this
conduct
by our federal government.  I don't care which political party you
support, this is an affront to the U.S. Constitution and the founding
principals of our nation.
  _ _ _ _ _ _

Thank you for this post.  It is what I have heard from protesters as
well.

    Yep, that is how extremists work. Agitate, threaten,
    create chaos, persecute, attack institutions and the
    law - until the idiot politicians think that giving in is the
    easier path.
    Then retrench and start again, this time with a stronger,
    "accepted", power base. Repeat.
    Fight them and you are The Enemy and you make martyrs
    of their righteous. You will be purged, burned-out, maybe
    just exterminated. Terror will dissuade the rest.
    So, alas, we need an ANTICOM that will take them on
    using equivalent tactics. Things suck when you have
    to use extremists to "balance" extremists - but the
    American center has become too weak to serve as
    a damper/counterweight.

Unfortunately that seems to be where we are heading.

you guys sure are heading to a fk of a lot of places

I'm ready to send those "peaceful protestors" to your house but it
ain't gonna happen. Canada is already socialist they can hold off
making it communist for now.

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  _ _ _ _ _ _ _
While I've been sort of following the ongoing events in Portland, I was
floored by the information I recently received from my father-in-law,
Alden Roberts.  It is incredibly important that people know what is
happening in Portland, because it is very scary and has very real
implications for our entire country.
By way of context, Alden is a general surgeon, retired as the Chief
Medical Officer of a hospital in Vancouver, Washington, and just
finished his term as the Chairman of the Washington Medical Commission
(the state agency that licenses and oversees all doctors in the state).
I share this information to emphasize that he is a community leader, a
very smart, educated, and informed person, and is not one to exaggerate
or spread misinformation.
"1. The protests are confined to a 2 block radius around the courthouse,
and if you’re 4 blocks away, you can’t tell anything has been happening.
There is nothing going on outside of that region, and Portland is
functioning as normally as the Pandemic will allow.  It is not burning,
nor is it out of control.
2. The protesters are absolutely peaceful at the Protests that I have
been part of, and with the exception of graffiti, are completely within
their constitutional rights to protest.  The protests involve singing,
chanting, and have used “white walls” to block whites who are trying to
disrupt or corrupt the protests. Yes, cursing is rather commonplace.
More than ½ of the protesters are white.  All are protesting for Black
Lives Matter, although the entrance of the federal paramilitary force
has brought out a lot of people, including myself, who are incensed at
the use of unregulated federal force against law abiding citizen and
against the will of the state and local governments.
3. ALL of the protesters are wearing masks to minimize transmission of
CoV-2.  However, as at times there are 1000 or more of us, it is hard
(though not impossible) to maintain social distancing.  When  the
federal paramilitary force is deployed, it becomes impossible.
4. The Police responded unprovoked and were brutal, but nothing like the
paramilitary force. There is a court order that forbids the police to
use teargas. I was not there when it was just the police.
5. At the protests I have attended, I did not witness any unlawfulness
on the part of the protesters.  Each time, the federal paramilitary
personnel launched an apparently unprovoked attack. There have been no
“riots.” The federal paramilitary force has had no training in crowd
control, has no oversight, was not invited to Portland by local
leadership, does not have any form of identification do not wear name
badges, and wears military camo. They are heavily armed with flash-bang
grenades, less-lethal bullets, pepper bullets, pepper spray and tear
gas.  They will pull goggles off of protesters and spray pepper spray
into their eyes.  They used a baton to beat a US Navy vet, broke his
hand and sprayed pepper spray in his eyes because he asked why they
weren’t honoring their vow to protect the constitution.  During the
assault, he stood still and did not resist until blinded by the pepper
spray, he turned around and walked away. The “line of mothers” on Sunday
was gassed and shot with less-lethal bullets for chanting Black Lives
Matter. At least one was pregnant.  A protester holding a sign up with
both hands was shot in the head with a “non-lethal” bullet and will
likely have permanent brain damage. While I have not personally seen
this, there are videos of people being kidnapped into unmarked vans by
the federal paramilitaries as they left the protests, held for a couple
of days, interrogated, then released without charges or
explanation.  At
this time, re-read my first two points.  The protests are no threat to
Portland and only encompass a 2 block area. They have been peaceful,
with graffiti as the only illegal activity.  They are well controlled
and supported by a cross section of Portlanders.  There is no reason
for
the federal government to be involved, and the excessive force being
used appears to be nothing more than a political show of force against
US Citizens by the Trump administration.
6. About 3000 protesters showed up last night (July 21); all with masks,
very well behaved.  Certainly no chaos, no violence on the part of the
protesters.  I left at 10:30, the paramilitary attacked at 12:30.  I
spent an hour talking to the medics.  They say they are being targeted
by the paramilitary personnel.  They are often the first to be shot at
and tear gassed.  When they try to help an injured protester, the
paramilitary personnel throw flash-bangs and tear gas at them (they
carry gas masks).  One of them was beaten, dragged away from the
injured
person they were treating and arrested. They are from OHSU as well as
Portland Fire.
7. The Elk statue was taken down by the Police to “protect” it, but the
Elk statue was a favorite of the protesters because it was
uncontroversial; so they got a blow-up elk and put it where the real
statue used to stand.  It’s sort of a rallying point."
This should concern, if not terrify, all of us.  This is an
unidentified
and unaccountable federal police presence attacking American citizens
who are not violating any federal laws.  This is literally how the
"secret police" in other authoritarian regimes began.  The
comparison to
the early stages of Nazi Germany is NOT AN EXAGGERATION anymore.
Silence is complacency.  Please share this post.  Please spread this
information.  Please get involved.  Do not allow or condone this
conduct
by our federal government.  I don't care which political party you
support, this is an affront to the U.S. Constitution and the founding
principals of our nation.
  _ _ _ _ _ _

Thank you for this post.  It is what I have heard from protesters as
well.

    Yep, that is how extremists work. Agitate, threaten,
    create chaos, persecute, attack institutions and the
    law - until the idiot politicians think that giving in is the
    easier path.
    Then retrench and start again, this time with a stronger,
    "accepted", power base. Repeat.
    Fight them and you are The Enemy and you make martyrs
    of their righteous. You will be purged, burned-out, maybe
    just exterminated. Terror will dissuade the rest.
    So, alas, we need an ANTICOM that will take them on
    using equivalent tactics. Things suck when you have
    to use extremists to "balance" extremists - but the
    American center has become too weak to serve as
    a damper/counterweight.

Unfortunately that seems to be where we are heading.

you guys sure are heading to a fk of a lot of places

I'm ready to send those "peaceful protestors" to your house but it
ain't gonna happen. Canada is already socialist they can hold off
making it communist for now.

i don't even know what that means

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Post by Janithor
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  _ _ _ _ _ _ _
While I've been sort of following the ongoing events in Portland, I was
floored by the information I recently received from my father-in-law,
Alden Roberts.  It is incredibly important that people know what is
happening in Portland, because it is very scary and has very real
implications for our entire country.
By way of context, Alden is a general surgeon, retired as the Chief
Medical Officer of a hospital in Vancouver, Washington, and just
finished his term as the Chairman of the Washington Medical Commission
(the state agency that licenses and oversees all doctors in the state).
I share this information to emphasize that he is a community leader, a
very smart, educated, and informed person, and is not one to exaggerate
or spread misinformation.
"1. The protests are confined to a 2 block radius around the courthouse,
and if you’re 4 blocks away, you can’t tell anything has been happening.
There is nothing going on outside of that region, and Portland is
functioning as normally as the Pandemic will allow.  It is not burning,
nor is it out of control.
2. The protesters are absolutely peaceful at the Protests that I have
been part of, and with the exception of graffiti, are completely within
their constitutional rights to protest.  The protests involve singing,
chanting, and have used “white walls” to block whites who are trying to
disrupt or corrupt the protests. Yes, cursing is rather commonplace.
More than ½ of the protesters are white.  All are protesting for Black
Lives Matter, although the entrance of the federal paramilitary force
has brought out a lot of people, including myself, who are incensed at
the use of unregulated federal force against law abiding citizen and
against the will of the state and local governments.
3. ALL of the protesters are wearing masks to minimize transmission of
CoV-2.  However, as at times there are 1000 or more of us, it is hard
(though not impossible) to maintain social distancing.  When  the
federal paramilitary force is deployed, it becomes impossible.
4. The Police responded unprovoked and were brutal, but nothing like the
paramilitary force. There is a court order that forbids the police to
use teargas. I was not there when it was just the police.
5. At the protests I have attended, I did not witness any unlawfulness
on the part of the protesters.  Each time, the federal paramilitary
personnel launched an apparently unprovoked attack. There have been no
“riots.” The federal paramilitary force has had no training in crowd
control, has no oversight, was not invited to Portland by local
leadership, does not have any form of identification do not wear name
badges, and wears military camo. They are heavily armed with flash-bang
grenades, less-lethal bullets, pepper bullets, pepper spray and tear
gas.  They will pull goggles off of protesters and spray pepper spray
into their eyes.  They used a baton to beat a US Navy vet, broke his
hand and sprayed pepper spray in his eyes because he asked why they
weren’t honoring their vow to protect the constitution.  During the
assault, he stood still and did not resist until blinded by the pepper
spray, he turned around and walked away. The “line of mothers” on Sunday
was gassed and shot with less-lethal bullets for chanting Black Lives
Matter. At least one was pregnant.  A protester holding a sign up with
both hands was shot in the head with a “non-lethal” bullet and will
likely have permanent brain damage. While I have not personally seen
this, there are videos of people being kidnapped into unmarked vans by
the federal paramilitaries as they left the protests, held for a couple
of days, interrogated, then released without charges or
explanation.  At
this time, re-read my first two points.  The protests are no threat to
Portland and only encompass a 2 block area. They have been peaceful,
with graffiti as the only illegal activity.  They are well controlled
and supported by a cross section of Portlanders.  There is no reason
for
the federal government to be involved, and the excessive force being
used appears to be nothing more than a political show of force against
US Citizens by the Trump administration.
6. About 3000 protesters showed up last night (July 21); all with masks,
very well behaved.  Certainly no chaos, no violence on the part of the
protesters.  I left at 10:30, the paramilitary attacked at 12:30.  I
spent an hour talking to the medics.  They say they are being targeted
by the paramilitary personnel.  They are often the first to be shot at
and tear gassed.  When they try to help an injured protester, the
paramilitary personnel throw flash-bangs and tear gas at them (they
carry gas masks).  One of them was beaten, dragged away from the
injured
person they were treating and arrested. They are from OHSU as well as
Portland Fire.
7. The Elk statue was taken down by the Police to “protect” it, but the
Elk statue was a favorite of the protesters because it was
uncontroversial; so they got a blow-up elk and put it where the real
statue used to stand.  It’s sort of a rallying point."
This should concern, if not terrify, all of us.  This is an
unidentified
and unaccountable federal police presence attacking American citizens
who are not violating any federal laws.  This is literally how the
"secret police" in other authoritarian regimes began.  The
comparison to
the early stages of Nazi Germany is NOT AN EXAGGERATION anymore.
Silence is complacency.  Please share this post.  Please spread this
information.  Please get involved.  Do not allow or condone this
conduct
by our federal government.  I don't care which political party you
support, this is an affront to the U.S. Constitution and the founding
principals of our nation.
  _ _ _ _ _ _

Thank you for this post.  It is what I have heard from protesters as
well.

    Yep, that is how extremists work. Agitate, threaten,
    create chaos, persecute, attack institutions and the
    law - until the idiot politicians think that giving in is the
    easier path.
    Then retrench and start again, this time with a stronger,
    "accepted", power base. Repeat.
    Fight them and you are The Enemy and you make martyrs
    of their righteous. You will be purged, burned-out, maybe
    just exterminated. Terror will dissuade the rest.
    So, alas, we need an ANTICOM that will take them on
    using equivalent tactics. Things suck when you have
    to use extremists to "balance" extremists - but the
    American center has become too weak to serve as
    a damper/counterweight.

Unfortunately that seems to be where we are heading.

you guys sure are heading to a fk of a lot of places

I'm ready to send those "peaceful protestors" to your house but it
ain't gonna happen. Canada is already socialist they can hold off
making it communist for now.

i don't even know what that means

: )

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Post by Phantom_View

Post by Pandora

Post by vallor
_ _ _ _ _ _ _
While I've been sort of following the ongoing events in Portland, I was
floored by the information I recently received from my father-in-law,
Alden Roberts. It is incredibly important that people know what is
happening in Portland, because it is very scary and has very real
implications for our entire country.
By way of context, Alden is a general surgeon, retired as the Chief
Medical Officer of a hospital in Vancouver, Washington, and just
finished his term as the Chairman of the Washington Medical Commission
(the state agency that licenses and oversees all doctors in the state).
I share this information to emphasize that he is a community leader, a
very smart, educated, and informed person, and is not one to exaggerate
or spread misinformation.
"1. The protests are confined to a 2 block radius around the courthouse,
and if you’re 4 blocks away, you can’t tell anything has been happening.
There is nothing going on outside of that region, and Portland is
functioning as normally as the Pandemic will allow. It is not burning,
nor is it out of control.
2. The protesters are absolutely peaceful at the Protests that I have
been part of, and with the exception of graffiti, are completely within
their constitutional rights to protest. The protests involve singing,
chanting, and have used “white walls” to block whites who are trying to
disrupt or corrupt the protests. Yes, cursing is rather commonplace.
More than ½ of the protesters are white. All are protesting for Black
Lives Matter, although the entrance of the federal paramilitary force
has brought out a lot of people, including myself, who are incensed at
the use of unregulated federal force against law abiding citizen and
against the will of the state and local governments.
3. ALL of the protesters are wearing masks to minimize transmission of
CoV-2. However, as at times there are 1000 or more of us, it is hard
(though not impossible) to maintain social distancing. When the
federal paramilitary force is deployed, it becomes impossible.
4. The Police responded unprovoked and were brutal, but nothing like the
paramilitary force. There is a court order that forbids the police to
use teargas. I was not there when it was just the police.
5. At the protests I have attended, I did not witness any unlawfulness
on the part of the protesters. Each time, the federal paramilitary
personnel launched an apparently unprovoked attack. There have been no
“riots.” The federal paramilitary force has had no training in crowd
control, has no oversight, was not invited to Portland by local
leadership, does not have any form of identification do not wear name
badges, and wears military camo. They are heavily armed with flash-bang
grenades, less-lethal bullets, pepper bullets, pepper spray and tear
gas. They will pull goggles off of protesters and spray pepper spray
into their eyes. They used a baton to beat a US Navy vet, broke his
hand and sprayed pepper spray in his eyes because he asked why they
weren’t honoring their vow to protect the constitution. During the
assault, he stood still and did not resist until blinded by the pepper
spray, he turned around and walked away. The “line of mothers” on Sunday
was gassed and shot with less-lethal bullets for chanting Black Lives
Matter. At least one was pregnant. A protester holding a sign up with
both hands was shot in the head with a “non-lethal” bullet and will
likely have permanent brain damage. While I have not personally seen
this, there are videos of people being kidnapped into unmarked vans by
the federal paramilitaries as they left the protests, held for a couple
of days, interrogated, then released without charges or explanation. At
this time, re-read my first two points. The protests are no threat to
Portland and only encompass a 2 block area. They have been peaceful,
with graffiti as the only illegal activity. They are well controlled
and supported by a cross section of Portlanders. There is no reason for
the federal government to be involved, and the excessive force being
used appears to be nothing more than a political show of force against
US Citizens by the Trump administration.
6. About 3000 protesters showed up last night (July 21); all with masks,
very well behaved. Certainly no chaos, no violence on the part of the
protesters. I left at 10:30, the paramilitary attacked at 12:30. I
spent an hour talking to the medics. They say they are being targeted
by the paramilitary personnel. They are often the first to be shot at
and tear gassed. When they try to help an injured protester, the
paramilitary personnel throw flash-bangs and tear gas at them (they
carry gas masks). One of them was beaten, dragged away from the injured
person they were treating and arrested. They are from OHSU as well as
Portland Fire.
7. The Elk statue was taken down by the Police to “protect” it, but the
Elk statue was a favorite of the protesters because it was
uncontroversial; so they got a blow-up elk and put it where the real
statue used to stand. It’s sort of a rallying point."
This should concern, if not terrify, all of us. This is an unidentified
and unaccountable federal police presence attacking American citizens
who are not violating any federal laws. This is literally how the
"secret police" in other authoritarian regimes began. The comparison to
the early stages of Nazi Germany is NOT AN EXAGGERATION anymore.
Silence is complacency. Please share this post. Please spread this
information. Please get involved. Do not allow or condone this conduct
by our federal government. I don't care which political party you
support, this is an affront to the U.S. Constitution and the founding
principals of our nation.
_ _ _ _ _ _

Thank you for this post. It is what I have heard from protesters as well.

Yep, that is how extremists work. Agitate, threaten,
create chaos, persecute, attack institutions and the
law - until the idiot politicians think that giving in is the
easier path.
Then retrench and start again, this time with a stronger,
"accepted", power base. Repeat.
Fight them and you are The Enemy and you make martyrs
of their righteous. You will be purged, burned-out, maybe
just exterminated. Terror will dissuade the rest.
So, alas, we need an ANTICOM that will take them on
using equivalent tactics. Things suck when you have
to use extremists to "balance" extremists - but the
American center has become too weak to serve as
a damper/counterweight.

Unfortunately that seems to be where we are heading.

I am in agreement.

[chrisv]

Post by Janithor

Post by Phantom_View
So, alas, we need an ANTICOM that will take them on
using equivalent tactics. Things suck when you have
to use extremists to "balance" extremists - but the
American center has become too weak to serve as
a damper/counterweight.

Unfortunately that seems to be where we are heading.

Wow, I trimmed!

Anyway, yes. There will be a backlash to these leftist radicals.
They are pushing too hard, too fast. It's pissing people off.

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Post by chrisv

Post by Janithor

Post by Phantom_View
So, alas, we need an ANTICOM that will take them on
using equivalent tactics. Things suck when you have
to use extremists to "balance" extremists - but the
American center has become too weak to serve as
a damper/counterweight.

Unfortunately that seems to be where we are heading.

Wow, I trimmed!
Anyway, yes. There will be a backlash to these leftist radicals.
They are pushing too hard, too fast. It's pissing people off.

wow i put back the trimmed

Post by chrisv

Post by Janithor

Post by Phantom_View
_ _ _ _ _ _ _
While I've been sort of following the ongoing events in Portland, I was
floored by the information I recently received from my father-in-law,
Alden Roberts. It is incredibly important that people know what is
happening in Portland, because it is very scary and has very real
implications for our entire country.
By way of context, Alden is a general surgeon, retired as the Chief
Medical Officer of a hospital in Vancouver, Washington, and just
finished his term as the Chairman of the Washington Medical Commission
(the state agency that licenses and oversees all doctors in the state).
I share this information to emphasize that he is a community leader, a
very smart, educated, and informed person, and is not one to exaggerate
or spread misinformation.
"1. The protests are confined to a 2 block radius around the

courthouse,

Post by chrisv

Post by Janithor

Post by Phantom_View
and if you’re 4 blocks away, you can’t tell anything has been happening.
There is nothing going on outside of that region, and Portland is
functioning as normally as the Pandemic will allow. It is not burning,
nor is it out of control.
2. The protesters are absolutely peaceful at the Protests that I have
been part of, and with the exception of graffiti, are completely within
their constitutional rights to protest. The protests involve singing,
chanting, and have used “white walls” to block whites who are trying to
disrupt or corrupt the protests. Yes, cursing is rather commonplace.
More than ½ of the protesters are white. All are protesting for Black
Lives Matter, although the entrance of the federal paramilitary force
has brought out a lot of people, including myself, who are incensed at
the use of unregulated federal force against law abiding citizen and
against the will of the state and local governments.
3. ALL of the protesters are wearing masks to minimize transmission of
CoV-2. However, as at times there are 1000 or more of us, it is hard
(though not impossible) to maintain social distancing. When the
federal paramilitary force is deployed, it becomes impossible.
4. The Police responded unprovoked and were brutal, but nothing like the
paramilitary force. There is a court order that forbids the police to
use teargas. I was not there when it was just the police.
5. At the protests I have attended, I did not witness any unlawfulness
on the part of the protesters. Each time, the federal paramilitary
personnel launched an apparently unprovoked attack. There have been no
“riots.” The federal paramilitary force has had no training in crowd
control, has no oversight, was not invited to Portland by local
leadership, does not have any form of identification do not wear name
badges, and wears military camo. They are heavily armed with flash-bang
grenades, less-lethal bullets, pepper bullets, pepper spray and tear
gas. They will pull goggles off of protesters and spray pepper spray
into their eyes. They used a baton to beat a US Navy vet, broke his
hand and sprayed pepper spray in his eyes because he asked why they
weren’t honoring their vow to protect the constitution. During the
assault, he stood still and did not resist until blinded by the pepper
spray, he turned around and walked away. The “line of mothers” on Sunday
was gassed and shot with less-lethal bullets for chanting Black Lives
Matter. At least one was pregnant. A protester holding a sign up with
both hands was shot in the head with a “non-lethal” bullet and will
likely have permanent brain damage. While I have not personally seen
this, there are videos of people being kidnapped into unmarked vans by
the federal paramilitaries as they left the protests, held for a couple
of days, interrogated, then released without charges or

explanation. At

Post by chrisv

Post by Janithor

Post by Phantom_View
this time, re-read my first two points. The protests are no threat to
Portland and only encompass a 2 block area. They have been peaceful,
with graffiti as the only illegal activity. They are well controlled
and supported by a cross section of Portlanders. There is no reason for
the federal government to be involved, and the excessive force being
used appears to be nothing more than a political show of force against
US Citizens by the Trump administration.
6. About 3000 protesters showed up last night (July 21); all with masks,
very well behaved. Certainly no chaos, no violence on the part of the
protesters. I left at 10:30, the paramilitary attacked at 12:30. I
spent an hour talking to the medics. They say they are being targeted
by the paramilitary personnel. They are often the first to be shot at
and tear gassed. When they try to help an injured protester, the
paramilitary personnel throw flash-bangs and tear gas at them (they
carry gas masks). One of them was beaten, dragged away from the injured
person they were treating and arrested. They are from OHSU as well as
Portland Fire.
7. The Elk statue was taken down by the Police to “protect” it, but the
Elk statue was a favorite of the protesters because it was
uncontroversial; so they got a blow-up elk and put it where the real
statue used to stand. It’s sort of a rallying point."
This should concern, if not terrify, all of us. This is an

unidentified

Post by chrisv

Post by Janithor

Post by Phantom_View
and unaccountable federal police presence attacking American citizens
who are not violating any federal laws. This is literally how the
"secret police" in other authoritarian regimes began. The

comparison to

Post by chrisv

Post by Janithor

Post by Phantom_View
the early stages of Nazi Germany is NOT AN EXAGGERATION anymore.
Silence is complacency. Please share this post. Please spread this
information. Please get involved. Do not allow or condone this conduct
by our federal government. I don't care which political party you
support, this is an affront to the U.S. Constitution and the founding
principals of our nation.
_ _ _ _ _ _

Thank you for this post. It is what I have heard from protesters as well.

Yep, that is how extremists work. Agitate, threaten,
create chaos, persecute, attack institutions and the
law - until the idiot politicians think that giving in is the
easier path.
Then retrench and start again, this time with a stronger,
"accepted", power base. Repeat.
Fight them and you are The Enemy and you make martyrs
of their righteous. You will be purged, burned-out, maybe
just exterminated. Terror will dissuade the rest.
So, alas, we need an ANTICOM that will take them on
using equivalent tactics. Things suck when you have
to use extremists to "balance" extremists - but the
American center has become too weak to serve as
a damper/counterweight.

[The Right And The Powerful]

Post by %

Post by chrisv

Post by Janithor

Post by Phantom_View
So, alas, we need an ANTICOM that will take them on
using equivalent tactics. Things suck when you have
to use extremists to "balance" extremists - but the
American center has become too weak to serve as
a damper/counterweight.

Unfortunately that seems to be where we are heading.

Wow, I trimmed!

YAY!

Post by %

Post by chrisv
Anyway, yes. There will be a backlash to these leftist radicals.
They are pushing too hard, too fast. It's pissing people off.

wow i put back the trimmed

Post by chrisv

Post by Janithor

Post by Phantom_View
_ _ _ _ _ _ _
While I've been sort of following the ongoing events in Portland, I was
floored by the information I recently received from my father-in-law,
Alden Roberts. It is incredibly important that people know what is
happening in Portland, because it is very scary and has very real
implications for our entire country.
By way of context, Alden is a general surgeon, retired as the Chief
Medical Officer of a hospital in Vancouver, Washington, and just
finished his term as the Chairman of the Washington Medical Commission
(the state agency that licenses and oversees all doctors in the state).
I share this information to emphasize that he is a community leader, a
very smart, educated, and informed person, and is not one to exaggerate
or spread misinformation.
"1. The protests are confined to a 2 block radius around the

courthouse,

Post by chrisv

Post by Janithor

Post by Phantom_View
and if you’re 4 blocks away, you can’t tell anything has been

happening.

Post by chrisv

Post by Janithor

Post by Phantom_View
There is nothing going on outside of that region, and Portland is
functioning as normally as the Pandemic will allow. It is not burning,
nor is it out of control.
2. The protesters are absolutely peaceful at the Protests that I have
been part of, and with the exception of graffiti, are completely within
their constitutional rights to protest. The protests involve singing,
chanting, and have used “white walls” to block whites who are trying to
disrupt or corrupt the protests. Yes, cursing is rather commonplace.
More than ½ of the protesters are white. All are protesting for Black
Lives Matter, although the entrance of the federal paramilitary force
has brought out a lot of people, including myself, who are incensed at
the use of unregulated federal force against law abiding citizen and
against the will of the state and local governments.
3. ALL of the protesters are wearing masks to minimize transmission of
CoV-2. However, as at times there are 1000 or more of us, it is hard
(though not impossible) to maintain social distancing. When the
federal paramilitary force is deployed, it becomes impossible.
4. The Police responded unprovoked and were brutal, but nothing

like the

Post by chrisv

Post by Janithor

Post by Phantom_View
paramilitary force. There is a court order that forbids the police to
use teargas. I was not there when it was just the police.
5. At the protests I have attended, I did not witness any unlawfulness
on the part of the protesters. Each time, the federal paramilitary
personnel launched an apparently unprovoked attack. There have been no
“riots.” The federal paramilitary force has had no training in crowd
control, has no oversight, was not invited to Portland by local
leadership, does not have any form of identification do not wear name
badges, and wears military camo. They are heavily armed with flash-bang
grenades, less-lethal bullets, pepper bullets, pepper spray and tear
gas. They will pull goggles off of protesters and spray pepper spray
into their eyes. They used a baton to beat a US Navy vet, broke his
hand and sprayed pepper spray in his eyes because he asked why they
weren’t honoring their vow to protect the constitution. During the
assault, he stood still and did not resist until blinded by the pepper
spray, he turned around and walked away. The “line of mothers” on

Sunday

Post by chrisv

Post by Janithor

Post by Phantom_View
was gassed and shot with less-lethal bullets for chanting Black Lives
Matter. At least one was pregnant. A protester holding a sign up with
both hands was shot in the head with a “non-lethal” bullet and will
likely have permanent brain damage. While I have not personally seen
this, there are videos of people being kidnapped into unmarked vans by
the federal paramilitaries as they left the protests, held for a couple
of days, interrogated, then released without charges or

explanation. At

Post by chrisv

Post by Janithor

Post by Phantom_View
this time, re-read my first two points. The protests are no threat to
Portland and only encompass a 2 block area. They have been peaceful,
with graffiti as the only illegal activity. They are well controlled
and supported by a cross section of Portlanders. There is no

reason for

Post by chrisv

Post by Janithor

Post by Phantom_View
the federal government to be involved, and the excessive force being
used appears to be nothing more than a political show of force against
US Citizens by the Trump administration.
6. About 3000 protesters showed up last night (July 21); all with

masks,

Post by chrisv

Post by Janithor

Post by Phantom_View
very well behaved. Certainly no chaos, no violence on the part of the
protesters. I left at 10:30, the paramilitary attacked at 12:30. I
spent an hour talking to the medics. They say they are being targeted
by the paramilitary personnel. They are often the first to be shot at
and tear gassed. When they try to help an injured protester, the
paramilitary personnel throw flash-bangs and tear gas at them (they
carry gas masks). One of them was beaten, dragged away from the

injured

Post by chrisv

Post by Janithor

Post by Phantom_View
person they were treating and arrested. They are from OHSU as well as
Portland Fire.
7. The Elk statue was taken down by the Police to “protect” it, but the
Elk statue was a favorite of the protesters because it was
uncontroversial; so they got a blow-up elk and put it where the real
statue used to stand. It’s sort of a rallying point."
This should concern, if not terrify, all of us. This is an

unidentified

Post by chrisv

Post by Janithor

Post by Phantom_View
and unaccountable federal police presence attacking American citizens
who are not violating any federal laws. This is literally how the
"secret police" in other authoritarian regimes began. The

comparison to

Post by chrisv

Post by Janithor

Post by Phantom_View
the early stages of Nazi Germany is NOT AN EXAGGERATION anymore.
Silence is complacency. Please share this post. Please spread this
information. Please get involved. Do not allow or condone this

conduct

Post by chrisv

Post by Janithor

Post by Phantom_View
by our federal government. I don't care which political party you
support, this is an affront to the U.S. Constitution and the founding
principals of our nation.
_ _ _ _ _ _

Thank you for this post. It is what I have heard from protesters as

well.

Post by chrisv
Yep, that is how extremists work. Agitate, threaten,
create chaos, persecute, attack institutions and the
law - until the idiot politicians think that giving in is the
easier path.
Then retrench and start again, this time with a stronger,
"accepted", power base. Repeat.
Fight them and you are The Enemy and you make martyrs
of their righteous. You will be purged, burned-out, maybe
just exterminated. Terror will dissuade the rest.
So, alas, we need an ANTICOM that will take them on
using equivalent tactics. Things suck when you have
to use extremists to "balance" extremists - but the
American center has become too weak to serve as
a damper/counterweight.

[Checkmate]

Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
Checkmate.

On Sun, 02 Aug 2020 20:28:47 -0500 chrisv put forth the following

Post by chrisv

Post by Janithor

Post by Phantom_View
So, alas, we need an ANTICOM that will take them on
using equivalent tactics. Things suck when you have
to use extremists to "balance" extremists - but the
American center has become too weak to serve as
a damper/counterweight.

Unfortunately that seems to be where we are heading.

Wow, I trimmed!
Anyway, yes. There will be a backlash to these leftist radicals.
They are pushing too hard, too fast. It's pissing people off.

You're one of them, Tardling.
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Post by Phantom_View

Post by Pandora
Thank you for this post. It is what I have heard from protesters as well.

Yep, that is how extremists work. Agitate, threaten,
create chaos, persecute, attack institutions and the
law - until the idiot politicians think that giving in is the
easier path.
Then retrench and start again, this time with a stronger,
"accepted", power base. Repeat.
Fight them and you are The Enemy and you make martyrs
of their righteous. You will be purged, burned-out, maybe
just exterminated. Terror will dissuade the rest.
So, alas, we need an ANTICOM that will take them on
using equivalent tactics. Things suck when you have
to use extremists to "balance" extremists - but the
American center has become too weak to serve as
a damper/counterweight.

IAWTP

[kensi]

Post by Phantom_View
So, alas, we need an ANTICOM that will take them on
using equivalent tactics. Things suck when you have
to use extremists to "balance" extremists - but the
American center has become too weak to serve as
a damper/counterweight.

Congratulations, koOky, you just reinvented the Freikorps ... aka the
forerunner to the Nazi movement. :/

[Skeeter]

On Sun, 2 Aug 2020 23:29:50 -0400, kensi

Post by kensi

Post by Phantom_View
So, alas, we need an ANTICOM that will take them on
using equivalent tactics. Things suck when you have
to use extremists to "balance" extremists - but the
American center has become too weak to serve as
a damper/counterweight.

Congratulations, koOky, you just reinvented the Freikorps ... aka the
forerunner to the Nazi movement. :/

I have noticed the only people talking about Nazis is you.

[The Right And The Powerful]

Post by Pandora

Post by vallor
_ _ _ _ _ _ _
While I've been sort of following the ongoing events in Portland, I was
floored by the information I recently received from my father-in-law,
Alden Roberts. It is incredibly important that people know what is
happening in Portland, because it is very scary and has very real
implications for our entire country.
By way of context, Alden is a general surgeon, retired as the Chief
Medical Officer of a hospital in Vancouver, Washington, and just
finished his term as the Chairman of the Washington Medical Commission
(the state agency that licenses and oversees all doctors in the state).
I share this information to emphasize that he is a community leader, a
very smart, educated, and informed person, and is not one to exaggerate
or spread misinformation.
"1. The protests are confined to a 2 block radius around the courthouse,
and if you’re 4 blocks away, you can’t tell anything has been happening.
There is nothing going on outside of that region, and Portland is
functioning as normally as the Pandemic will allow. It is not burning,
nor is it out of control.
2. The protesters are absolutely peaceful at the Protests that I have
been part of, and with the exception of graffiti, are completely within
their constitutional rights to protest. The protests involve singing,
chanting, and have used “white walls” to block whites who are trying to
disrupt or corrupt the protests. Yes, cursing is rather commonplace.
More than ½ of the protesters are white. All are protesting for Black
Lives Matter, although the entrance of the federal paramilitary force
has brought out a lot of people, including myself, who are incensed at
the use of unregulated federal force against law abiding citizen and
against the will of the state and local governments.
3. ALL of the protesters are wearing masks to minimize transmission of
CoV-2. However, as at times there are 1000 or more of us, it is hard
(though not impossible) to maintain social distancing. When the
federal paramilitary force is deployed, it becomes impossible.
4. The Police responded unprovoked and were brutal, but nothing like the
paramilitary force. There is a court order that forbids the police to
use teargas. I was not there when it was just the police.
5. At the protests I have attended, I did not witness any unlawfulness
on the part of the protesters. Each time, the federal paramilitary
personnel launched an apparently unprovoked attack. There have been no
“riots.” The federal paramilitary force has had no training in crowd
control, has no oversight, was not invited to Portland by local
leadership, does not have any form of identification do not wear name
badges, and wears military camo. They are heavily armed with flash-bang
grenades, less-lethal bullets, pepper bullets, pepper spray and tear
gas. They will pull goggles off of protesters and spray pepper spray
into their eyes. They used a baton to beat a US Navy vet, broke his
hand and sprayed pepper spray in his eyes because he asked why they
weren’t honoring their vow to protect the constitution. During the
assault, he stood still and did not resist until blinded by the pepper
spray, he turned around and walked away. The “line of mothers” on Sunday
was gassed and shot with less-lethal bullets for chanting Black Lives
Matter. At least one was pregnant. A protester holding a sign up with
both hands was shot in the head with a “non-lethal” bullet and will
likely have permanent brain damage. While I have not personally seen
this, there are videos of people being kidnapped into unmarked vans by
the federal paramilitaries as they left the protests, held for a couple
of days, interrogated, then released without charges or explanation. At
this time, re-read my first two points. The protests are no threat to
Portland and only encompass a 2 block area. They have been peaceful,
with graffiti as the only illegal activity. They are well controlled
and supported by a cross section of Portlanders. There is no reason for
the federal government to be involved, and the excessive force being
used appears to be nothing more than a political show of force against
US Citizens by the Trump administration.
6. About 3000 protesters showed up last night (July 21); all with masks,
very well behaved. Certainly no chaos, no violence on the part of the
protesters. I left at 10:30, the paramilitary attacked at 12:30. I
spent an hour talking to the medics. They say they are being targeted
by the paramilitary personnel. They are often the first to be shot at
and tear gassed. When they try to help an injured protester, the
paramilitary personnel throw flash-bangs and tear gas at them (they
carry gas masks). One of them was beaten, dragged away from the injured
person they were treating and arrested. They are from OHSU as well as
Portland Fire.
7. The Elk statue was taken down by the Police to “protect” it, but the
Elk statue was a favorite of the protesters because it was
uncontroversial; so they got a blow-up elk and put it where the real
statue used to stand. It’s sort of a rallying point."
This should concern, if not terrify, all of us. This is an unidentified
and unaccountable federal police presence attacking American citizens
who are not violating any federal laws. This is literally how the
"secret police" in other authoritarian regimes began. The comparison to
the early stages of Nazi Germany is NOT AN EXAGGERATION anymore.
Silence is complacency. Please share this post. Please spread this
information. Please get involved. Do not allow or condone this conduct
by our federal government. I don't care which political party you
support, this is an affront to the U.S. Constitution and the founding
principals of our nation.
_ _ _ _ _ _

Thank you for this post. It is what I have heard from protesters as well.

Utter lies from those who threw frozen water bottles at cops to murder
them. Utter lies from those who used hand held lasers and damaged the
eyesight of officers of the law PERMANENTLY. Utter lies from those
who tried and sometimes succeeded in setting fire to government
buildings. Utter lies from those who CLAIM to be peaceful and are
violent to the extreme. So grandma Pandora you keep supporting those
domestic terrorists and repeat their lies won't you? Yes,
unfortunately you will.

[Janithor]

x-no-archive: yes

Post by The Right And The Powerful

Post by Pandora

Post by vallor
_ _ _ _ _ _ _
While I've been sort of following the ongoing events in Portland, I was
floored by the information I recently received from my father-in-law,
Alden Roberts. It is incredibly important that people know what is
happening in Portland, because it is very scary and has very real
implications for our entire country.
By way of context, Alden is a general surgeon, retired as the Chief
Medical Officer of a hospital in Vancouver, Washington, and just
finished his term as the Chairman of the Washington Medical Commission
(the state agency that licenses and oversees all doctors in the state).
I share this information to emphasize that he is a community leader, a
very smart, educated, and informed person, and is not one to exaggerate
or spread misinformation.
"1. The protests are confined to a 2 block radius around the courthouse,
and if you’re 4 blocks away, you can’t tell anything has been happening.
There is nothing going on outside of that region, and Portland is
functioning as normally as the Pandemic will allow. It is not burning,
nor is it out of control.
2. The protesters are absolutely peaceful at the Protests that I have
been part of, and with the exception of graffiti, are completely within
their constitutional rights to protest. The protests involve singing,
chanting, and have used “white walls” to block whites who are trying to
disrupt or corrupt the protests. Yes, cursing is rather commonplace.
More than ½ of the protesters are white. All are protesting for Black
Lives Matter, although the entrance of the federal paramilitary force
has brought out a lot of people, including myself, who are incensed at
the use of unregulated federal force against law abiding citizen and
against the will of the state and local governments.
3. ALL of the protesters are wearing masks to minimize transmission of
CoV-2. However, as at times there are 1000 or more of us, it is hard
(though not impossible) to maintain social distancing. When the
federal paramilitary force is deployed, it becomes impossible.
4. The Police responded unprovoked and were brutal, but nothing like the
paramilitary force. There is a court order that forbids the police to
use teargas. I was not there when it was just the police.
5. At the protests I have attended, I did not witness any unlawfulness
on the part of the protesters. Each time, the federal paramilitary
personnel launched an apparently unprovoked attack. There have been no
“riots.” The federal paramilitary force has had no training in crowd
control, has no oversight, was not invited to Portland by local
leadership, does not have any form of identification do not wear name
badges, and wears military camo. They are heavily armed with flash-bang
grenades, less-lethal bullets, pepper bullets, pepper spray and tear
gas. They will pull goggles off of protesters and spray pepper spray
into their eyes. They used a baton to beat a US Navy vet, broke his
hand and sprayed pepper spray in his eyes because he asked why they
weren’t honoring their vow to protect the constitution. During the
assault, he stood still and did not resist until blinded by the pepper
spray, he turned around and walked away. The “line of mothers” on Sunday
was gassed and shot with less-lethal bullets for chanting Black Lives
Matter. At least one was pregnant. A protester holding a sign up with
both hands was shot in the head with a “non-lethal” bullet and will
likely have permanent brain damage. While I have not personally seen
this, there are videos of people being kidnapped into unmarked vans by
the federal paramilitaries as they left the protests, held for a couple
of days, interrogated, then released without charges or explanation. At
this time, re-read my first two points. The protests are no threat to
Portland and only encompass a 2 block area. They have been peaceful,
with graffiti as the only illegal activity. They are well controlled
and supported by a cross section of Portlanders. There is no reason for
the federal government to be involved, and the excessive force being
used appears to be nothing more than a political show of force against
US Citizens by the Trump administration.
6. About 3000 protesters showed up last night (July 21); all with masks,
very well behaved. Certainly no chaos, no violence on the part of the
protesters. I left at 10:30, the paramilitary attacked at 12:30. I
spent an hour talking to the medics. They say they are being targeted
by the paramilitary personnel. They are often the first to be shot at
and tear gassed. When they try to help an injured protester, the
paramilitary personnel throw flash-bangs and tear gas at them (they
carry gas masks). One of them was beaten, dragged away from the injured
person they were treating and arrested. They are from OHSU as well as
Portland Fire.
7. The Elk statue was taken down by the Police to “protect” it, but the
Elk statue was a favorite of the protesters because it was
uncontroversial; so they got a blow-up elk and put it where the real
statue used to stand. It’s sort of a rallying point."
This should concern, if not terrify, all of us. This is an unidentified
and unaccountable federal police presence attacking American citizens
who are not violating any federal laws. This is literally how the
"secret police" in other authoritarian regimes began. The comparison to
the early stages of Nazi Germany is NOT AN EXAGGERATION anymore.
Silence is complacency. Please share this post. Please spread this
information. Please get involved. Do not allow or condone this conduct
by our federal government. I don't care which political party you
support, this is an affront to the U.S. Constitution and the founding
principals of our nation.
_ _ _ _ _ _

Thank you for this post. It is what I have heard from protesters as well.

Utter lies from those who threw frozen water bottles at cops to murder
them. Utter lies from those who used hand held lasers and damaged the
eyesight of officers of the law PERMANENTLY. Utter lies from those
who tried and sometimes succeeded in setting fire to government
buildings. Utter lies from those who CLAIM to be peaceful and are
violent to the extreme. So grandma Pandora you keep supporting those
domestic terrorists and repeat their lies won't you? Yes,
unfortunately you will.

Yes, but they did all that very peacefully.

[The Right And The Powerful]

Post by Janithor
x-no-archive: yes

Post by The Right And The Powerful

Post by Pandora

Post by vallor
_ _ _ _ _ _ _
While I've been sort of following the ongoing events in Portland, I was
floored by the information I recently received from my father-in-law,
Alden Roberts. It is incredibly important that people know what is
happening in Portland, because it is very scary and has very real
implications for our entire country.
By way of context, Alden is a general surgeon, retired as the Chief
Medical Officer of a hospital in Vancouver, Washington, and just
finished his term as the Chairman of the Washington Medical Commission
(the state agency that licenses and oversees all doctors in the state).
I share this information to emphasize that he is a community leader, a
very smart, educated, and informed person, and is not one to exaggerate
or spread misinformation.
"1. The protests are confined to a 2 block radius around the courthouse,
and if you’re 4 blocks away, you can’t tell anything has been happening.
There is nothing going on outside of that region, and Portland is
functioning as normally as the Pandemic will allow. It is not burning,
nor is it out of control.
2. The protesters are absolutely peaceful at the Protests that I have
been part of, and with the exception of graffiti, are completely within
their constitutional rights to protest. The protests involve singing,
chanting, and have used “white walls” to block whites who are trying to
disrupt or corrupt the protests. Yes, cursing is rather commonplace.
More than ½ of the protesters are white. All are protesting for Black
Lives Matter, although the entrance of the federal paramilitary force
has brought out a lot of people, including myself, who are incensed at
the use of unregulated federal force against law abiding citizen and
against the will of the state and local governments.
3. ALL of the protesters are wearing masks to minimize transmission of
CoV-2. However, as at times there are 1000 or more of us, it is hard
(though not impossible) to maintain social distancing. When the
federal paramilitary force is deployed, it becomes impossible.
4. The Police responded unprovoked and were brutal, but nothing like the
paramilitary force. There is a court order that forbids the police to
use teargas. I was not there when it was just the police.
5. At the protests I have attended, I did not witness any unlawfulness
on the part of the protesters. Each time, the federal paramilitary
personnel launched an apparently unprovoked attack. There have been no
“riots.” The federal paramilitary force has had no training in crowd
control, has no oversight, was not invited to Portland by local
leadership, does not have any form of identification do not wear name
badges, and wears military camo. They are heavily armed with flash-bang
grenades, less-lethal bullets, pepper bullets, pepper spray and tear
gas. They will pull goggles off of protesters and spray pepper spray
into their eyes. They used a baton to beat a US Navy vet, broke his
hand and sprayed pepper spray in his eyes because he asked why they
weren’t honoring their vow to protect the constitution. During the
assault, he stood still and did not resist until blinded by the pepper
spray, he turned around and walked away. The “line of mothers” on Sunday
was gassed and shot with less-lethal bullets for chanting Black Lives
Matter. At least one was pregnant. A protester holding a sign up with
both hands was shot in the head with a “non-lethal” bullet and will
likely have permanent brain damage. While I have not personally seen
this, there are videos of people being kidnapped into unmarked vans by
the federal paramilitaries as they left the protests, held for a couple
of days, interrogated, then released without charges or explanation. At
this time, re-read my first two points. The protests are no threat to
Portland and only encompass a 2 block area. They have been peaceful,
with graffiti as the only illegal activity. They are well controlled
and supported by a cross section of Portlanders. There is no reason for
the federal government to be involved, and the excessive force being
used appears to be nothing more than a political show of force against
US Citizens by the Trump administration.
6. About 3000 protesters showed up last night (July 21); all with masks,
very well behaved. Certainly no chaos, no violence on the part of the
protesters. I left at 10:30, the paramilitary attacked at 12:30. I
spent an hour talking to the medics. They say they are being targeted
by the paramilitary personnel. They are often the first to be shot at
and tear gassed. When they try to help an injured protester, the
paramilitary personnel throw flash-bangs and tear gas at them (they
carry gas masks). One of them was beaten, dragged away from the injured
person they were treating and arrested. They are from OHSU as well as
Portland Fire.
7. The Elk statue was taken down by the Police to “protect” it, but the
Elk statue was a favorite of the protesters because it was
uncontroversial; so they got a blow-up elk and put it where the real
statue used to stand. It’s sort of a rallying point."
This should concern, if not terrify, all of us. This is an unidentified
and unaccountable federal police presence attacking American citizens
who are not violating any federal laws. This is literally how the
"secret police" in other authoritarian regimes began. The comparison to
the early stages of Nazi Germany is NOT AN EXAGGERATION anymore.
Silence is complacency. Please share this post. Please spread this
information. Please get involved. Do not allow or condone this conduct
by our federal government. I don't care which political party you
support, this is an affront to the U.S. Constitution and the founding
principals of our nation.
_ _ _ _ _ _

Thank you for this post. It is what I have heard from protesters as well.

Utter lies from those who threw frozen water bottles at cops to murder
them. Utter lies from those who used hand held lasers and damaged the
eyesight of officers of the law PERMANENTLY. Utter lies from those
who tried and sometimes succeeded in setting fire to government
buildings. Utter lies from those who CLAIM to be peaceful and are
violent to the extreme. So grandma Pandora you keep supporting those
domestic terrorists and repeat their lies won't you? Yes,
unfortunately you will.

Yes, but they did all that very peacefully.

I don't think Pandora has the intellectual wherewithall to engage in a
civil conversation. She is simply a TRUE BELIEVER in democrats no
matter what the facts are.

[kensi]

Post by The Right And The Powerful

Post by Janithor

Post by The Right And The Powerful
Utter lies from those who threw frozen water bottles at cops to murder
them. Utter lies from those who used hand held lasers and damaged the
eyesight of officers of the law PERMANENTLY. Utter lies from those
who tried and sometimes succeeded in setting fire to government
buildings. Utter lies from those who CLAIM to be peaceful and are
violent to the extreme. So grandma Pandora you keep supporting those
domestic terrorists and repeat their lies won't you? Yes,
unfortunately you will.

The above rant gets three our of five Chernobyls. Hey, you're tied with
puddles this week!

Post by The Right And The Powerful

Post by Janithor
Yes, but they did all that very peacefully.

I don't think Pandora has the intellectual wherewithall to engage in a
civil conversation. She is simply a TRUE BELIEVER in democrats no
matter what the facts are.

PFATZZZZZZZT!

And it's "taps" for irony meter #6,191,407. I'll give it a decent burial
after I've showered and had my morning tea.

[%]

Post by kensi

Post by The Right And The Powerful

Post by Janithor

Post by The Right And The Powerful
Utter lies from those who threw frozen water bottles at cops to murder
them.  Utter lies from those who used hand held lasers and damaged the
eyesight of officers of the law PERMANENTLY.  Utter lies from those
who tried and sometimes succeeded in setting fire to government
buildings.  Utter lies from those who CLAIM to be peaceful and are
violent to the extreme.  So grandma Pandora you keep supporting those
domestic terrorists and repeat their lies won't you?  Yes,
unfortunately you will.

The above rant gets three our of five Chernobyls. Hey, you're tied with
puddles this week!

Post by The Right And The Powerful

Post by Janithor
Yes, but they did all that very peacefully.

I don't think Pandora has the intellectual wherewithall to engage in a
civil conversation.  She is simply a TRUE BELIEVER in democrats no
matter what the facts are.

PFATZZZZZZZT!
And it's "taps" for irony meter #6,191,407. I'll give it a decent burial
after I've showered and had my morning tea.

living in washinton mean it's not morning where you are ,
now get a digital meter and get out of the 50's

[TRUMP 2020]

On Sun, 2 Aug 2020 23:35:01 -0400, kensi

Post by kensi

Post by The Right And The Powerful

Post by Janithor

Post by The Right And The Powerful
Utter lies from those who threw frozen water bottles at cops to murder
them. Utter lies from those who used hand held lasers and damaged the
eyesight of officers of the law PERMANENTLY. Utter lies from those
who tried and sometimes succeeded in setting fire to government
buildings. Utter lies from those who CLAIM to be peaceful and are
violent to the extreme. So grandma Pandora you keep supporting those
domestic terrorists and repeat their lies won't you? Yes,
unfortunately you will.

The above rant gets three our of five Chernobyls. Hey, you're tied with
puddles this week!

Post by The Right And The Powerful

Post by Janithor
Yes, but they did all that very peacefully.

I don't think Pandora has the intellectual wherewithall to engage in a
civil conversation. She is simply a TRUE BELIEVER in democrats no
matter what the facts are.

PFATZZZZZZZT!
And it's "taps" for irony meter #6,191,407. I'll give it a decent burial
after I've showered and had my morning tea.

Screaming at the mirror again Paul?

[Pandora]

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Post by Janithor
x-no-archive: yes

Post by The Right And The Powerful

Post by Pandora

Post by vallor
_ _ _ _ _ _ _
While I've been sort of following the ongoing events in Portland, I
was floored by the information I recently received from my
father-in-law, Alden Roberts. It is incredibly important that
people know what is happening in Portland, because it is very scary
and has very real implications for our entire country.
By way of context, Alden is a general surgeon, retired as the Chief
Medical Officer of a hospital in Vancouver, Washington, and just
finished his term as the Chairman of the Washington Medical
Commission (the state agency that licenses and oversees all doctors
in the state).
I share this information to emphasize that he is a community leader,
a very smart, educated, and informed person, and is not one to
exaggerate or spread misinformation.
"1. The protests are confined to a 2 block radius around the
courthouse, and if you’re 4 blocks away, you can’t tell anything

has

Post by The Right And The Powerful

Post by Janithor

Post by The Right And The Powerful

Post by Pandora

Post by vallor
been happening.
There is nothing going on outside of that region, and Portland is
functioning as normally as the Pandemic will allow. It is not
burning, nor is it out of control.
2. The protesters are absolutely peaceful at the Protests that I
have been part of, and with the exception of graffiti, are
completely within their constitutional rights to protest. The
protests involve singing, chanting, and have used “white walls” to
block whites who are trying to disrupt or corrupt the protests. Yes,
cursing is rather commonplace.
More than ½ of the protesters are white. All are protesting for
Black Lives Matter, although the entrance of the federal
paramilitary force has brought out a lot of people, including
myself, who are incensed at the use of unregulated federal force
against law abiding citizen and against the will of the state and
local governments.
3. ALL of the protesters are wearing masks to minimize transmission
of CoV-2. However, as at times there are 1000 or more of us, it is
hard (though not impossible) to maintain social distancing. When
the federal paramilitary force is deployed, it becomes impossible.
4. The Police responded unprovoked and were brutal, but nothing like
the paramilitary force. There is a court order that forbids the
police to use teargas. I was not there when it was just the police.
5. At the protests I have attended, I did not witness any
unlawfulness on the part of the protesters. Each time, the federal
paramilitary personnel launched an apparently unprovoked attack.
There have been no “riots.” The federal paramilitary force has had
no training in crowd control, has no oversight, was not invited to
Portland by local leadership, does not have any form of
identification do not wear name badges, and wears military camo.
They are heavily armed with flash-bang grenades, less-lethal
bullets, pepper bullets, pepper spray and tear gas. They will pull
goggles off of protesters and spray pepper spray into their eyes.
They used a baton to beat a US Navy vet, broke his hand and sprayed
pepper spray in his eyes because he asked why they weren’t honoring
their vow to protect the constitution. During the assault, he stood
still and did not resist until blinded by the pepper spray, he
turned around and walked away. The “line of mothers” on Sunday was
gassed and shot with less-lethal bullets for chanting Black Lives
Matter. At least one was pregnant. A protester holding a sign up
with both hands was shot in the head with a “non-lethal” bullet and
will likely have permanent brain damage. While I have not personally
seen this, there are videos of people being kidnapped into unmarked
vans by the federal paramilitaries as they left the protests, held
for a couple of days, interrogated, then released without charges or
explanation. At this time, re-read my first two points. The
protests are no threat to Portland and only encompass a 2 block
area. They have been peaceful,
with graffiti as the only illegal activity. They are well
controlled and supported by a cross section of Portlanders. There
is no reason for the federal government to be involved, and the
excessive force being used appears to be nothing more than a
political show of force against US Citizens by the Trump
administration.
6. About 3000 protesters showed up last night (July 21); all with
masks, very well behaved. Certainly no chaos, no violence on the
part of the protesters. I left at 10:30, the paramilitary attacked
at 12:30. I spent an hour talking to the medics. They say they are
being targeted by the paramilitary personnel. They are often the
first to be shot at and tear gassed. When they try to help an
injured protester, the paramilitary personnel throw flash-bangs and
tear gas at them (they carry gas masks). One of them was beaten,
dragged away from the injured person they were treating and
arrested. They are from OHSU as well as Portland Fire.
7. The Elk statue was taken down by the Police to “protect” it, but
the Elk statue was a favorite of the protesters because it was
uncontroversial; so they got a blow-up elk and put it where the real
statue used to stand. It’s sort of a rallying point."
This should concern, if not terrify, all of us. This is an
unidentified and unaccountable federal police presence attacking
American citizens who are not violating any federal laws. This is
literally how the "secret police" in other authoritarian regimes
began. The comparison to the early stages of Nazi Germany is NOT AN
EXAGGERATION anymore.
Silence is complacency. Please share this post. Please spread this
information. Please get involved. Do not allow or condone this
conduct by our federal government. I don't care which political
party you support, this is an affront to the U.S. Constitution and
the founding principals of our nation.
_ _ _ _ _ _

Thank you for this post. It is what I have heard from protesters as well.

Utter lies from those who threw frozen water bottles at cops to murder
them. Utter lies from those who used hand held lasers and damaged the
eyesight of officers of the law PERMANENTLY. Utter lies from those
who tried and sometimes succeeded in setting fire to government
buildings. Utter lies from those who CLAIM to be peaceful and are
violent to the extreme. So grandma Pandora you keep supporting those
domestic terrorists and repeat their lies won't you? Yes,
unfortunately you will.

Yes, but they did all that very peacefully.

I don't think Pandora has the intellectual wherewithall to engage in a
civil conversation. She is simply a TRUE BELIEVER in democrats no
matter what the facts are.

And there it is again. It's difficult to have a civil conversation when
one side keeps throwing out insults.

[The Right And The Powerful]

Post by Pandora

Post by The Right And The Powerful

Post by Janithor
x-no-archive: yes

Post by The Right And The Powerful

Post by Pandora

Post by vallor
_ _ _ _ _ _ _
While I've been sort of following the ongoing events in Portland, I
was floored by the information I recently received from my
father-in-law, Alden Roberts. It is incredibly important that
people know what is happening in Portland, because it is very scary
and has very real implications for our entire country.
By way of context, Alden is a general surgeon, retired as the Chief
Medical Officer of a hospital in Vancouver, Washington, and just
finished his term as the Chairman of the Washington Medical
Commission (the state agency that licenses and oversees all doctors
in the state).
I share this information to emphasize that he is a community leader,
a very smart, educated, and informed person, and is not one to
exaggerate or spread misinformation.
"1. The protests are confined to a 2 block radius around the
courthouse, and if you?re 4 blocks away, you can?t tell anything

has

Post by The Right And The Powerful

Post by Janithor

Post by The Right And The Powerful

Post by Pandora

Post by vallor
been happening.
There is nothing going on outside of that region, and Portland is
functioning as normally as the Pandemic will allow. It is not
burning, nor is it out of control.
2. The protesters are absolutely peaceful at the Protests that I
have been part of, and with the exception of graffiti, are
completely within their constitutional rights to protest. The
protests involve singing, chanting, and have used ?white walls? to
block whites who are trying to disrupt or corrupt the protests. Yes,
cursing is rather commonplace.
More than ½ of the protesters are white. All are protesting for
Black Lives Matter, although the entrance of the federal
paramilitary force has brought out a lot of people, including
myself, who are incensed at the use of unregulated federal force
against law abiding citizen and against the will of the state and
local governments.
3. ALL of the protesters are wearing masks to minimize transmission
of CoV-2. However, as at times there are 1000 or more of us, it is
hard (though not impossible) to maintain social distancing. When
the federal paramilitary force is deployed, it becomes impossible.
4. The Police responded unprovoked and were brutal, but nothing like
the paramilitary force. There is a court order that forbids the
police to use teargas. I was not there when it was just the police.
5. At the protests I have attended, I did not witness any
unlawfulness on the part of the protesters. Each time, the federal
paramilitary personnel launched an apparently unprovoked attack.
There have been no ?riots.? The federal paramilitary force has had
no training in crowd control, has no oversight, was not invited to
Portland by local leadership, does not have any form of
identification do not wear name badges, and wears military camo.
They are heavily armed with flash-bang grenades, less-lethal
bullets, pepper bullets, pepper spray and tear gas. They will pull
goggles off of protesters and spray pepper spray into their eyes.
They used a baton to beat a US Navy vet, broke his hand and sprayed
pepper spray in his eyes because he asked why they weren?t honoring
their vow to protect the constitution. During the assault, he stood
still and did not resist until blinded by the pepper spray, he
turned around and walked away. The ?line of mothers? on Sunday was
gassed and shot with less-lethal bullets for chanting Black Lives
Matter. At least one was pregnant. A protester holding a sign up
with both hands was shot in the head with a ?non-lethal? bullet and
will likely have permanent brain damage. While I have not personally
seen this, there are videos of people being kidnapped into unmarked
vans by the federal paramilitaries as they left the protests, held
for a couple of days, interrogated, then released without charges or
explanation. At this time, re-read my first two points. The
protests are no threat to Portland and only encompass a 2 block
area. They have been peaceful,
with graffiti as the only illegal activity. They are well
controlled and supported by a cross section of Portlanders. There
is no reason for the federal government to be involved, and the
excessive force being used appears to be nothing more than a
political show of force against US Citizens by the Trump
administration.
6. About 3000 protesters showed up last night (July 21); all with
masks, very well behaved. Certainly no chaos, no violence on the
part of the protesters. I left at 10:30, the paramilitary attacked
at 12:30. I spent an hour talking to the medics. They say they are
being targeted by the paramilitary personnel. They are often the
first to be shot at and tear gassed. When they try to help an
injured protester, the paramilitary personnel throw flash-bangs and
tear gas at them (they carry gas masks). One of them was beaten,
dragged away from the injured person they were treating and
arrested. They are from OHSU as well as Portland Fire.
7. The Elk statue was taken down by the Police to ?protect? it, but
the Elk statue was a favorite of the protesters because it was
uncontroversial; so they got a blow-up elk and put it where the real
statue used to stand. It?s sort of a rallying point."
This should concern, if not terrify, all of us. This is an
unidentified and unaccountable federal police presence attacking
American citizens who are not violating any federal laws. This is
literally how the "secret police" in other authoritarian regimes
began. The comparison to the early stages of Nazi Germany is NOT AN
EXAGGERATION anymore.
Silence is complacency. Please share this post. Please spread this
information. Please get involved. Do not allow or condone this
conduct by our federal government. I don't care which political
party you support, this is an affront to the U.S. Constitution and
the founding principals of our nation.
_ _ _ _ _ _

Thank you for this post. It is what I have heard from protesters as well.

Utter lies from those who threw frozen water bottles at cops to murder
them. Utter lies from those who used hand held lasers and damaged the
eyesight of officers of the law PERMANENTLY. Utter lies from those
who tried and sometimes succeeded in setting fire to government
buildings. Utter lies from those who CLAIM to be peaceful and are
violent to the extreme. So grandma Pandora you keep supporting those
domestic terrorists and repeat their lies won't you? Yes,
unfortunately you will.

Yes, but they did all that very peacefully.

I don't think Pandora has the intellectual wherewithall to engage in a
civil conversation. She is simply a TRUE BELIEVER in democrats no
matter what the facts are.

And there it is again. It's difficult to have a civil conversation when
one side keeps throwing out insults.

There it is again? Where was it in the first place? You don't answer
the straight to the point obvious examples of how corrupt the
democratic leadership is. Not once! You won't admit the those nice
little polite and sweet with flowers in their hair BLM and Antifa
rioters that burn, loot, vandalize and blind police officers and leave
a severed pigs head with a police cap on as a threat are the scum of
the earth. Instead, you only reply when your little ego gets bruised
from an obvious point. You're out of league and have your head up
your about what is happening in this country. So, don't lecture me on
so-called civil discourse when you are a supporter of domestic
terrorists and don't even take the time to go to those cities and
check it out for yourself. Put up or shut up. I've said before
you're probably a nice person but deluded beyond all measure when it
comes to politics and the evil of democrats in this country.

[vallor]

Post by The Right And The Powerful

Post by Pandora

Post by vallor
_ _ _ _ _ _ _
While I've been sort of following the ongoing events in Portland, I
was floored by the information I recently received from my
father-in-law, Alden Roberts. It is incredibly important that people
know what is happening in Portland, because it is very scary and has
very real implications for our entire country.
By way of context, Alden is a general surgeon, retired as the Chief
Medical Officer of a hospital in Vancouver, Washington, and just
finished his term as the Chairman of the Washington Medical Commission
(the state agency that licenses and oversees all doctors in the state).
I share this information to emphasize that he is a community leader, a
very smart, educated, and informed person, and is not one to
exaggerate or spread misinformation.
"1. The protests are confined to a 2 block radius around the
courthouse, and if you’re 4 blocks away, you can’t tell anything has
been happening.
There is nothing going on outside of that region, and Portland is
functioning as normally as the Pandemic will allow. It is not
burning, nor is it out of control.
2. The protesters are absolutely peaceful at the Protests that I have
been part of, and with the exception of graffiti, are completely
within their constitutional rights to protest. The protests involve
singing, chanting, and have used “white walls” to block whites who are
trying to disrupt or corrupt the protests. Yes, cursing is rather
commonplace.
More than ½ of the protesters are white. All are protesting for Black
Lives Matter, although the entrance of the federal paramilitary force
has brought out a lot of people, including myself, who are incensed at
the use of unregulated federal force against law abiding citizen and
against the will of the state and local governments.
3. ALL of the protesters are wearing masks to minimize transmission of
CoV-2. However, as at times there are 1000 or more of us, it is hard
(though not impossible) to maintain social distancing. When the
federal paramilitary force is deployed, it becomes impossible.
4. The Police responded unprovoked and were brutal, but nothing like
the paramilitary force. There is a court order that forbids the police
to use teargas. I was not there when it was just the police.
5. At the protests I have attended, I did not witness any unlawfulness
on the part of the protesters. Each time, the federal paramilitary
personnel launched an apparently unprovoked attack. There have been no
“riots.” The federal paramilitary force has had no training in crowd
control, has no oversight, was not invited to Portland by local
leadership, does not have any form of identification do not wear name
badges, and wears military camo. They are heavily armed with
flash-bang grenades, less-lethal bullets, pepper bullets, pepper spray
and tear gas. They will pull goggles off of protesters and spray
pepper spray into their eyes. They used a baton to beat a US Navy
vet, broke his hand and sprayed pepper spray in his eyes because he
asked why they weren’t honoring their vow to protect the constitution.
During the assault, he stood still and did not resist until blinded
by the pepper spray, he turned around and walked away. The “line of
mothers” on Sunday was gassed and shot with less-lethal bullets for
chanting Black Lives Matter. At least one was pregnant. A protester
holding a sign up with both hands was shot in the head with a
“non-lethal” bullet and will likely have permanent brain damage. While
I have not personally seen this, there are videos of people being
kidnapped into unmarked vans by the federal paramilitaries as they
left the protests, held for a couple of days, interrogated, then
released without charges or explanation. At this time, re-read my
first two points. The protests are no threat to Portland and only
encompass a 2 block area. They have been peaceful,
with graffiti as the only illegal activity. They are well controlled
and supported by a cross section of Portlanders. There is no reason
for the federal government to be involved, and the excessive force
being used appears to be nothing more than a political show of force
against US Citizens by the Trump administration.
6. About 3000 protesters showed up last night (July 21); all with
masks, very well behaved. Certainly no chaos, no violence on the part
of the protesters. I left at 10:30, the paramilitary attacked at
12:30. I spent an hour talking to the medics. They say they are
being targeted by the paramilitary personnel. They are often the
first to be shot at and tear gassed. When they try to help an injured
protester, the paramilitary personnel throw flash-bangs and tear gas
at them (they carry gas masks). One of them was beaten, dragged away
from the injured person they were treating and arrested. They are from
OHSU as well as Portland Fire.
7. The Elk statue was taken down by the Police to “protect” it, but
the Elk statue was a favorite of the protesters because it was
uncontroversial; so they got a blow-up elk and put it where the real
statue used to stand. It’s sort of a rallying point."
This should concern, if not terrify, all of us. This is an
unidentified and unaccountable federal police presence attacking
American citizens who are not violating any federal laws. This is
literally how the "secret police" in other authoritarian regimes
began. The comparison to the early stages of Nazi Germany is NOT AN
EXAGGERATION anymore.
Silence is complacency. Please share this post. Please spread this
information. Please get involved. Do not allow or condone this
conduct by our federal government. I don't care which political party
you support, this is an affront to the U.S. Constitution and the
founding principals of our nation.
_ _ _ _ _ _

Thank you for this post. It is what I have heard from protesters as well.

[[[[[[[[[[[[[ POLICE TAPE, DO NOT CROSS ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]

Post by The Right And The Powerful
Utter lies from those who threw frozen water bottles at cops to murder
them. Utter lies from those who used hand held lasers and damaged the
eyesight of officers of the law PERMANENTLY. Utter lies from those who
tried and sometimes succeeded in setting fire to government buildings.
Utter lies from those who CLAIM to be peaceful and are violent to the
extreme. So grandma Pandora you keep supporting those domestic
terrorists and repeat their lies won't you? Yes, unfortunately you
will.

[[[[[[[[[[[[ POLICE TAPE, DO NOT CROSS ]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]


I've cordoned off the scene of the crime.

[chrisv]

Post by The Right And The Powerful
Utter lies

From you. You know, maybe the right should get some people who aren't
proven to be lying freaks, to post their "opinions".

It reminds of when the Linux-haters would attack, in here.. Not one
of them wasn't a proven asshole liar.

[Skeeter]

Post by chrisv

Post by The Right And The Powerful
Utter lies

From you. You know, maybe the right should get some people who aren't
proven to be lying freaks, to post their "opinions".
It reminds of when the Linux-haters would attack, in here.. Not one
of them wasn't a proven asshole liar.

deleted/unread

[Checkmate]

Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
Checkmate.

On Sun, 02 Aug 2020 20:31:52 -0500 chrisv put forth the following

Post by chrisv

Post by The Right And The Powerful
Utter lies

From you. You know, maybe the right should get some people who aren't
proven to be lying freaks, to post their "opinions".
It reminds of when the Linux-haters would attack, in here.. Not one
of them wasn't a proven asshole liar.

I hope you read all their posts undeleted.
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Post by vallor
The comparison to the
early stages of Nazi Germany is NOT AN EXAGGERATION anymore.

Oh, you mean how crazed leftists were burning books?

[Skeeter]

On Sun, 02 Aug 2020 11:02:07 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude

Post by Klaus Schadenfreude

Post by vallor
The comparison to the
early stages of Nazi Germany is NOT AN EXAGGERATION anymore.

Oh, you mean how crazed leftists were burning books?

and flags? I watched a youtube from on the ground from portland last
night and they were burning shit.

[chrisv]

Post by Skeeter
Klaus Schadenfreude

Post by Klaus Schadenfreude

Post by vallor
The comparison to the
early stages of Nazi Germany is NOT AN EXAGGERATION anymore.

Oh, you mean how crazed leftists were burning books?

and flags? I watched a youtube from on the ground from portland last
night and they were burning shit.

You got a link?

[Skeeter]

Post by chrisv

Post by Skeeter
Klaus Schadenfreude

Post by Klaus Schadenfreude

Post by vallor
The comparison to the
early stages of Nazi Germany is NOT AN EXAGGERATION anymore.

Oh, you mean how crazed leftists were burning books?

and flags? I watched a youtube from on the ground from portland last
night and they were burning shit.

You got a link?

I did but it got deleted/unread.

[chrisv]

Post by Skeeter

Post by chrisv

Post by Skeeter
I watched a youtube from on the ground from portland last
night and they were burning shit.

You got a link?

I did but it got deleted/unread.

That's fine. I'll just assume that you were lying, again. Obviously,
known liars, like you, get no benefit of doubt.

Your reponse will be deleted, unread.

[Skeeter]

Post by chrisv

Post by Skeeter

Post by chrisv

Post by Skeeter
I watched a youtube from on the ground from portland last
night and they were burning shit.

You got a link?

I did but it got deleted/unread.

That's fine. I'll just assume that you were lying, again. Obviously,
known liars, like you, get no benefit of doubt.
Your reponse will be deleted, unread.

Have you always been this dense?

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On Sun, 02 Aug 2020 20:22:51 -0500 chrisv put forth the following

Post by chrisv

Post by Skeeter
Klaus Schadenfreude

Post by Klaus Schadenfreude

Post by vallor
The comparison to the
early stages of Nazi Germany is NOT AN EXAGGERATION anymore.

Oh, you mean how crazed leftists were burning books?

and flags? I watched a youtube from on the ground from portland last
night and they were burning shit.

You got a link?

How much would you charge me to store a bunch of jalapeños up your ass
temporarily for "safe keeping"? If anybody asks, you can tell them
they're not jalapeños, they're alupiñyas.
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On 2 Aug 2020 17:32:05 GMT vallor put forth the following notion, which

Post by vallor
_ _ _ _ _ _ _
While I've been sort of following the ongoing events in Portland, I was
floored by the information I recently received from my father-in-law,
Alden Roberts. It is incredibly important that people know what is
happening in Portland, because it is very scary and has very real
implications for our entire country.
By way of context, Alden is a general surgeon, retired as the Chief
Medical Officer of a hospital in Vancouver, Washington, and just finished
his term as the Chairman of the Washington Medical Commission (the state
agency that licenses and oversees all doctors in the state). I share
this information to emphasize that he is a community leader, a very
smart, educated, and informed person, and is not one to exaggerate or
spread misinformation.
"1. The protests are confined to a 2 block radius around the courthouse,
and if you’re 4 blocks away, you can’t tell anything has been happening.
There is nothing going on outside of that region, and Portland is
functioning as normally as the Pandemic will allow. It is not burning,
nor is it out of control.
2. The protesters are absolutely peaceful at the Protests that I have
been part of, and with the exception of graffiti, are completely within
their constitutional rights to protest. The protests involve singing,
chanting, and have used “white walls” to block whites who are trying to
disrupt or corrupt the protests. Yes, cursing is rather commonplace. More
than ½ of the protesters are white. All are protesting for Black Lives
Matter, although the entrance of the federal paramilitary force has
brought out a lot of people, including myself, who are incensed at the
use of unregulated federal force against law abiding citizen and against
the will of the state and local governments.
3. ALL of the protesters are wearing masks to minimize transmission of
CoV-2. However, as at times there are 1000 or more of us, it is hard
(though not impossible) to maintain social distancing. When the federal
paramilitary force is deployed, it becomes impossible.
4. The Police responded unprovoked and were brutal, but nothing like the
paramilitary force. There is a court order that forbids the police to use
teargas. I was not there when it was just the police.
5. At the protests I have attended, I did not witness any unlawfulness on
the part of the protesters. Each time, the federal paramilitary
personnel launched an apparently unprovoked attack. There have been no
“riots.” The federal paramilitary force has had no training in crowd
control, has no oversight, was not invited to Portland by local
leadership, does not have any form of identification do not wear name
badges, and wears military camo. They are heavily armed with flash-bang
grenades, less-lethal bullets, pepper bullets, pepper spray and tear
gas. They will pull goggles off of protesters and spray pepper spray
into their eyes. They used a baton to beat a US Navy vet, broke his hand
and sprayed pepper spray in his eyes because he asked why they weren’t
honoring their vow to protect the constitution. During the assault, he
stood still and did not resist until blinded by the pepper spray, he
turned around and walked away. The “line of mothers” on Sunday was gassed
and shot with less-lethal bullets for chanting Black Lives Matter. At
least one was pregnant. A protester holding a sign up with both hands
was shot in the head with a “non-lethal” bullet and will likely have
permanent brain damage. While I have not personally seen this, there are
videos of people being kidnapped into unmarked vans by the federal
paramilitaries as they left the protests, held for a couple of days,
interrogated, then released without charges or explanation. At this
time, re-read my first two points. The protests are no threat to
Portland and only encompass a 2 block area. They have been peaceful, with
graffiti as the only illegal activity. They are well controlled and
supported by a cross section of Portlanders. There is no reason for the
federal government to be involved, and the excessive force being used
appears to be nothing more than a political show of force against US
Citizens by the Trump administration.
6. About 3000 protesters showed up last night (July 21); all with masks,
very well behaved. Certainly no chaos, no violence on the part of the
protesters. I left at 10:30, the paramilitary attacked at 12:30. I
spent an hour talking to the medics. They say they are being targeted by
the paramilitary personnel. They are often the first to be shot at and
tear gassed. When they try to help an injured protester, the
paramilitary personnel throw flash-bangs and tear gas at them (they carry
gas masks). One of them was beaten, dragged away from the injured person
they were treating and arrested. They are from OHSU as well as Portland
Fire.
7. The Elk statue was taken down by the Police to “protect” it, but the
Elk statue was a favorite of the protesters because it was
uncontroversial; so they got a blow-up elk and put it where the real
statue used to stand. It’s sort of a rallying point."
This should concern, if not terrify, all of us. This is an unidentified
and unaccountable federal police presence attacking American citizens who
are not violating any federal laws. This is literally how the "secret
police" in other authoritarian regimes began. The comparison to the
early stages of Nazi Germany is NOT AN EXAGGERATION anymore.
Silence is complacency. Please share this post. Please spread this
information. Please get involved. Do not allow or condone this conduct
by our federal government. I don't care which political party you
support, this is an affront to the U.S. Constitution and the founding
principals of our nation.
_ _ _ _ _ _

Nightly videos coming out of Portland show this is bullshit, but
considering the source, I wouldn't expect anything other from you.
--
Checkmate ®
Copyright © 2020
all rights reserved

***************************************************
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***************************************************

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Destroyer of the AUK Ko0k Awards (Post-Burnore)
Co-winner Pierre Salinger Hook, Line & Sinker
award May 2001, (Brethern of Beelzebub troll)
Pierre Salinger Hook, Line & Sinker award, Feb 2012

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Philosopher, Humanitarian
Poet, Elektrishun to the Stars
Usenet Shot-Caller

In loving memory of The Battle Kitten
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On Sun, 2 Aug 2020 12:48:54 -0700, Checkmate

Post by Checkmate
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On 2 Aug 2020 17:32:05 GMT vallor put forth the following notion, which

Post by vallor
_ _ _ _ _ _ _
While I've been sort of following the ongoing events in Portland, I was
floored by the information I recently received from my father-in-law,
Alden Roberts. It is incredibly important that people know what is
happening in Portland, because it is very scary and has very real
implications for our entire country.
By way of context, Alden is a general surgeon, retired as the Chief
Medical Officer of a hospital in Vancouver, Washington, and just finished
his term as the Chairman of the Washington Medical Commission (the state
agency that licenses and oversees all doctors in the state). I share
this information to emphasize that he is a community leader, a very
smart, educated, and informed person, and is not one to exaggerate or
spread misinformation.
"1. The protests are confined to a 2 block radius around the courthouse,
and if you’re 4 blocks away, you can’t tell anything has been happening.
There is nothing going on outside of that region, and Portland is
functioning as normally as the Pandemic will allow. It is not burning,
nor is it out of control.
2. The protesters are absolutely peaceful at the Protests that I have
been part of, and with the exception of graffiti, are completely within
their constitutional rights to protest. The protests involve singing,
chanting, and have used “white walls” to block whites who are trying to
disrupt or corrupt the protests. Yes, cursing is rather commonplace. More
than ½ of the protesters are white. All are protesting for Black Lives
Matter, although the entrance of the federal paramilitary force has
brought out a lot of people, including myself, who are incensed at the
use of unregulated federal force against law abiding citizen and against
the will of the state and local governments.
3. ALL of the protesters are wearing masks to minimize transmission of
CoV-2. However, as at times there are 1000 or more of us, it is hard
(though not impossible) to maintain social distancing. When the federal
paramilitary force is deployed, it becomes impossible.
4. The Police responded unprovoked and were brutal, but nothing like the
paramilitary force. There is a court order that forbids the police to use
teargas. I was not there when it was just the police.
5. At the protests I have attended, I did not witness any unlawfulness on
the part of the protesters. Each time, the federal paramilitary
personnel launched an apparently unprovoked attack. There have been no
“riots.” The federal paramilitary force has had no training in crowd
control, has no oversight, was not invited to Portland by local
leadership, does not have any form of identification do not wear name
badges, and wears military camo. They are heavily armed with flash-bang
grenades, less-lethal bullets, pepper bullets, pepper spray and tear
gas. They will pull goggles off of protesters and spray pepper spray
into their eyes. They used a baton to beat a US Navy vet, broke his hand
and sprayed pepper spray in his eyes because he asked why they weren’t
honoring their vow to protect the constitution. During the assault, he
stood still and did not resist until blinded by the pepper spray, he
turned around and walked away. The “line of mothers” on Sunday was gassed
and shot with less-lethal bullets for chanting Black Lives Matter. At
least one was pregnant. A protester holding a sign up with both hands
was shot in the head with a “non-lethal” bullet and will likely have
permanent brain damage. While I have not personally seen this, there are
videos of people being kidnapped into unmarked vans by the federal
paramilitaries as they left the protests, held for a couple of days,
interrogated, then released without charges or explanation. At this
time, re-read my first two points. The protests are no threat to
Portland and only encompass a 2 block area. They have been peaceful, with
graffiti as the only illegal activity. They are well controlled and
supported by a cross section of Portlanders. There is no reason for the
federal government to be involved, and the excessive force being used
appears to be nothing more than a political show of force against US
Citizens by the Trump administration.
6. About 3000 protesters showed up last night (July 21); all with masks,
very well behaved. Certainly no chaos, no violence on the part of the
protesters. I left at 10:30, the paramilitary attacked at 12:30. I
spent an hour talking to the medics. They say they are being targeted by
the paramilitary personnel. They are often the first to be shot at and
tear gassed. When they try to help an injured protester, the
paramilitary personnel throw flash-bangs and tear gas at them (they carry
gas masks). One of them was beaten, dragged away from the injured person
they were treating and arrested. They are from OHSU as well as Portland
Fire.
7. The Elk statue was taken down by the Police to “protect” it, but the
Elk statue was a favorite of the protesters because it was
uncontroversial; so they got a blow-up elk and put it where the real
statue used to stand. It’s sort of a rallying point."
This should concern, if not terrify, all of us. This is an unidentified
and unaccountable federal police presence attacking American citizens who
are not violating any federal laws. This is literally how the "secret
police" in other authoritarian regimes began. The comparison to the
early stages of Nazi Germany is NOT AN EXAGGERATION anymore.
Silence is complacency. Please share this post. Please spread this
information. Please get involved. Do not allow or condone this conduct
by our federal government. I don't care which political party you
support, this is an affront to the U.S. Constitution and the founding
principals of our nation.
_ _ _ _ _ _

Nightly videos coming out of Portland show this is bullshit, but
considering the source, I wouldn't expect anything other from you.

They depend on main stream media when you can go to live youtube and
see what's really going on.

[Sn!pe]

Post by Checkmate
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Checkmate.
On 2 Aug 2020 17:32:05 GMT vallor put forth the following notion, which

Post by vallor
_ _ _ _ _ _ _
While I've been sort of following the ongoing events in Portland, I was
floored by the information I recently received from my father-in-law,
Alden Roberts. It is incredibly important that people know what is
happening in Portland, because it is very scary and has very real
implications for our entire country.
By way of context, Alden is a general surgeon, retired as the Chief
Medical Officer of a hospital in Vancouver, Washington, and just finished
his term as the Chairman of the Washington Medical Commission (the state
agency that licenses and oversees all doctors in the state). I share
this information to emphasize that he is a community leader, a very
smart, educated, and informed person, and is not one to exaggerate or
spread misinformation.
"1. The protests are confined to a 2 block radius around the courthouse,
and if you're 4 blocks away, you can't tell anything has been happening.
There is nothing going on outside of that region, and Portland is
functioning as normally as the Pandemic will allow. It is not burning,
nor is it out of control.
2. The protesters are absolutely peaceful at the Protests that I have
been part of, and with the exception of graffiti, are completely within
their constitutional rights to protest. The protests involve singing,
chanting, and have used "white walls" to block whites who are trying to
disrupt or corrupt the protests. Yes, cursing is rather commonplace. More
than ? of the protesters are white. All are protesting for Black Lives
Matter, although the entrance of the federal paramilitary force has
brought out a lot of people, including myself, who are incensed at the
use of unregulated federal force against law abiding citizen and against
the will of the state and local governments.
3. ALL of the protesters are wearing masks to minimize transmission of
CoV-2. However, as at times there are 1000 or more of us, it is hard
(though not impossible) to maintain social distancing. When the federal
paramilitary force is deployed, it becomes impossible.
4. The Police responded unprovoked and were brutal, but nothing like the
paramilitary force. There is a court order that forbids the police to use
teargas. I was not there when it was just the police.
5. At the protests I have attended, I did not witness any unlawfulness on
the part of the protesters. Each time, the federal paramilitary
personnel launched an apparently unprovoked attack. There have been no
"riots." The federal paramilitary force has had no training in crowd
control, has no oversight, was not invited to Portland by local
leadership, does not have any form of identification do not wear name
badges, and wears military camo. They are heavily armed with flash-bang
grenades, less-lethal bullets, pepper bullets, pepper spray and tear
gas. They will pull goggles off of protesters and spray pepper spray
into their eyes. They used a baton to beat a US Navy vet, broke his hand
and sprayed pepper spray in his eyes because he asked why they weren't
honoring their vow to protect the constitution. During the assault, he
stood still and did not resist until blinded by the pepper spray, he
turned around and walked away. The "line of mothers" on Sunday was gassed
and shot with less-lethal bullets for chanting Black Lives Matter. At
least one was pregnant. A protester holding a sign up with both hands
was shot in the head with a "non-lethal" bullet and will likely have
permanent brain damage. While I have not personally seen this, there are
videos of people being kidnapped into unmarked vans by the federal
paramilitaries as they left the protests, held for a couple of days,
interrogated, then released without charges or explanation. At this
time, re-read my first two points. The protests are no threat to
Portland and only encompass a 2 block area. They have been peaceful, with
graffiti as the only illegal activity. They are well controlled and
supported by a cross section of Portlanders. There is no reason for the
federal government to be involved, and the excessive force being used
appears to be nothing more than a political show of force against US
Citizens by the Trump administration.
6. About 3000 protesters showed up last night (July 21); all with masks,
very well behaved. Certainly no chaos, no violence on the part of the
protesters. I left at 10:30, the paramilitary attacked at 12:30. I
spent an hour talking to the medics. They say they are being targeted by
the paramilitary personnel. They are often the first to be shot at and
tear gassed. When they try to help an injured protester, the
paramilitary personnel throw flash-bangs and tear gas at them (they carry
gas masks). One of them was beaten, dragged away from the injured person
they were treating and arrested. They are from OHSU as well as Portland
Fire.
7. The Elk statue was taken down by the Police to "protect" it, but the
Elk statue was a favorite of the protesters because it was
uncontroversial; so they got a blow-up elk and put it where the real
statue used to stand. It's sort of a rallying point."
This should concern, if not terrify, all of us. This is an unidentified
and unaccountable federal police presence attacking American citizens who
are not violating any federal laws. This is literally how the "secret
police" in other authoritarian regimes began. The comparison to the
early stages of Nazi Germany is NOT AN EXAGGERATION anymore.
Silence is complacency. Please share this post. Please spread this
information. Please get involved. Do not allow or condone this conduct
by our federal government. I don't care which political party you
support, this is an affront to the U.S. Constitution and the founding
principals of our nation.
_ _ _ _ _ _

Nightly videos coming out of Portland show this is bullshit, but
considering the source, I wouldn't expect anything other from you.

A contrary view from a contrary (but respectable) British publication:

"Portland has been given over to the mob
Cowardly politicians let the protests spiral out of control."

<https://tinyurl.com/y575ko8b> which is:
<https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/07/31/portland-has-been-given-over-to-the-mob/>

[vallor]

Post by Checkmate
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Checkmate.
On 2 Aug 2020 17:32:05 GMT vallor put forth the following notion, which

Post by vallor
_ _ _ _ _ _ _
While I've been sort of following the ongoing events in Portland, I
was floored by the information I recently received from my
father-in-law, Alden Roberts. It is incredibly important that people
know what is happening in Portland, because it is very scary and has
very real implications for our entire country.
By way of context, Alden is a general surgeon, retired as the Chief
Medical Officer of a hospital in Vancouver, Washington, and just
finished his term as the Chairman of the Washington Medical
Commission (the state agency that licenses and oversees all doctors
in the state). I share this information to emphasize that he is a
community leader, a very smart, educated, and informed person, and is
not one to exaggerate or spread misinformation.
"1. The protests are confined to a 2 block radius around the
courthouse, and if you're 4 blocks away, you can't tell anything has
been happening. There is nothing going on outside of that region, and
Portland is functioning as normally as the Pandemic will allow. It
is not burning, nor is it out of control.
2. The protesters are absolutely peaceful at the Protests that I have
been part of, and with the exception of graffiti, are completely
within their constitutional rights to protest. The protests involve
singing, chanting, and have used "white walls" to block whites who
are trying to disrupt or corrupt the protests. Yes, cursing is rather
commonplace. More than ? of the protesters are white. All are
protesting for Black Lives Matter, although the entrance of the
federal paramilitary force has brought out a lot of people, including
myself, who are incensed at the use of unregulated federal force
against law abiding citizen and against the will of the state and
local governments.
3. ALL of the protesters are wearing masks to minimize transmission
of CoV-2. However, as at times there are 1000 or more of us, it is
hard (though not impossible) to maintain social distancing. When
the federal paramilitary force is deployed, it becomes impossible.
4. The Police responded unprovoked and were brutal, but nothing like
the paramilitary force. There is a court order that forbids the
police to use teargas. I was not there when it was just the police.
5. At the protests I have attended, I did not witness any
unlawfulness on the part of the protesters. Each time, the federal
paramilitary personnel launched an apparently unprovoked attack.
There have been no "riots." The federal paramilitary force has had no
training in crowd control, has no oversight, was not invited to
Portland by local leadership, does not have any form of
identification do not wear name badges, and wears military camo. They
are heavily armed with flash-bang grenades, less-lethal bullets,
pepper bullets, pepper spray and tear gas. They will pull goggles
off of protesters and spray pepper spray into their eyes. They used
a baton to beat a US Navy vet, broke his hand and sprayed pepper
spray in his eyes because he asked why they weren't honoring their
vow to protect the constitution. During the assault, he stood still
and did not resist until blinded by the pepper spray, he turned
around and walked away. The "line of mothers" on Sunday was gassed
and shot with less-lethal bullets for chanting Black Lives Matter. At
least one was pregnant. A protester holding a sign up with both
hands was shot in the head with a "non-lethal" bullet and will likely
have permanent brain damage. While I have not personally seen this,
there are videos of people being kidnapped into unmarked vans by the
federal paramilitaries as they left the protests, held for a couple
of days, interrogated, then released without charges or explanation.
At this time, re-read my first two points. The protests are no
threat to Portland and only encompass a 2 block area. They have been
peaceful, with graffiti as the only illegal activity. They are well
controlled and supported by a cross section of Portlanders. There is
no reason for the federal government to be involved, and the
excessive force being used appears to be nothing more than a
political show of force against US Citizens by the Trump
administration.
6. About 3000 protesters showed up last night (July 21); all with
masks, very well behaved. Certainly no chaos, no violence on the
part of the protesters. I left at 10:30, the paramilitary attacked
at 12:30. I spent an hour talking to the medics. They say they are
being targeted by the paramilitary personnel. They are often the
first to be shot at and tear gassed. When they try to help an
injured protester, the paramilitary personnel throw flash-bangs and
tear gas at them (they carry gas masks). One of them was beaten,
dragged away from the injured person they were treating and arrested.
They are from OHSU as well as Portland Fire.
7. The Elk statue was taken down by the Police to "protect" it, but
the Elk statue was a favorite of the protesters because it was
uncontroversial; so they got a blow-up elk and put it where the real
statue used to stand. It's sort of a rallying point."
This should concern, if not terrify, all of us. This is an
unidentified and unaccountable federal police presence attacking
American citizens who are not violating any federal laws. This is
literally how the "secret police" in other authoritarian regimes
began. The comparison to the early stages of Nazi Germany is NOT AN
EXAGGERATION anymore.
Silence is complacency. Please share this post. Please spread this
information. Please get involved. Do not allow or condone this
conduct by our federal government. I don't care which political
party you support, this is an affront to the U.S. Constitution and
the founding principals of our nation.
_ _ _ _ _ _

Nightly videos coming out of Portland show this is bullshit, but
considering the source, I wouldn't expect anything other from you.

"Portland has been given over to the mob Cowardly politicians let the
protests spiral out of control."
<https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/07/31/portland-has-been-given-over-

to-the-mob/>

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiked_(magazine)

[Sn!pe]

[nothing snipped]

Post by vallor

Post by Checkmate
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Checkmate.
On 2 Aug 2020 17:32:05 GMT vallor put forth the following notion, which

Post by vallor
_ _ _ _ _ _ _
While I've been sort of following the ongoing events in Portland, I
was floored by the information I recently received from my
father-in-law, Alden Roberts. It is incredibly important that people
know what is happening in Portland, because it is very scary and has
very real implications for our entire country.
By way of context, Alden is a general surgeon, retired as the Chief
Medical Officer of a hospital in Vancouver, Washington, and just
finished his term as the Chairman of the Washington Medical
Commission (the state agency that licenses and oversees all doctors
in the state). I share this information to emphasize that he is a
community leader, a very smart, educated, and informed person, and is
not one to exaggerate or spread misinformation.
"1. The protests are confined to a 2 block radius around the
courthouse, and if you're 4 blocks away, you can't tell anything has
been happening. There is nothing going on outside of that region, and
Portland is functioning as normally as the Pandemic will allow. It
is not burning, nor is it out of control.
2. The protesters are absolutely peaceful at the Protests that I have
been part of, and with the exception of graffiti, are completely
within their constitutional rights to protest. The protests involve
singing, chanting, and have used "white walls" to block whites who
are trying to disrupt or corrupt the protests. Yes, cursing is rather
commonplace. More than ? of the protesters are white. All are
protesting for Black Lives Matter, although the entrance of the
federal paramilitary force has brought out a lot of people, including
myself, who are incensed at the use of unregulated federal force
against law abiding citizen and against the will of the state and
local governments.
3. ALL of the protesters are wearing masks to minimize transmission
of CoV-2. However, as at times there are 1000 or more of us, it is
hard (though not impossible) to maintain social distancing. When
the federal paramilitary force is deployed, it becomes impossible.
4. The Police responded unprovoked and were brutal, but nothing like
the paramilitary force. There is a court order that forbids the
police to use teargas. I was not there when it was just the police.
5. At the protests I have attended, I did not witness any
unlawfulness on the part of the protesters. Each time, the federal
paramilitary personnel launched an apparently unprovoked attack.
There have been no "riots." The federal paramilitary force has had no
training in crowd control, has no oversight, was not invited to
Portland by local leadership, does not have any form of
identification do not wear name badges, and wears military camo. They
are heavily armed with flash-bang grenades, less-lethal bullets,
pepper bullets, pepper spray and tear gas. They will pull goggles
off of protesters and spray pepper spray into their eyes. They used
a baton to beat a US Navy vet, broke his hand and sprayed pepper
spray in his eyes because he asked why they weren't honoring their
vow to protect the constitution. During the assault, he stood still
and did not resist until blinded by the pepper spray, he turned
around and walked away. The "line of mothers" on Sunday was gassed
and shot with less-lethal bullets for chanting Black Lives Matter. At
least one was pregnant. A protester holding a sign up with both
hands was shot in the head with a "non-lethal" bullet and will likely
have permanent brain damage. While I have not personally seen this,
there are videos of people being kidnapped into unmarked vans by the
federal paramilitaries as they left the protests, held for a couple
of days, interrogated, then released without charges or explanation.
At this time, re-read my first two points. The protests are no
threat to Portland and only encompass a 2 block area. They have been
peaceful, with graffiti as the only illegal activity. They are well
controlled and supported by a cross section of Portlanders. There is
no reason for the federal government to be involved, and the
excessive force being used appears to be nothing more than a
political show of force against US Citizens by the Trump
administration.
6. About 3000 protesters showed up last night (July 21); all with
masks, very well behaved. Certainly no chaos, no violence on the
part of the protesters. I left at 10:30, the paramilitary attacked
at 12:30. I spent an hour talking to the medics. They say they are
being targeted by the paramilitary personnel. They are often the
first to be shot at and tear gassed. When they try to help an
injured protester, the paramilitary personnel throw flash-bangs and
tear gas at them (they carry gas masks). One of them was beaten,
dragged away from the injured person they were treating and arrested.
They are from OHSU as well as Portland Fire.
7. The Elk statue was taken down by the Police to "protect" it, but
the Elk statue was a favorite of the protesters because it was
uncontroversial; so they got a blow-up elk and put it where the real
statue used to stand. It's sort of a rallying point."
This should concern, if not terrify, all of us. This is an
unidentified and unaccountable federal police presence attacking
American citizens who are not violating any federal laws. This is
literally how the "secret police" in other authoritarian regimes
began. The comparison to the early stages of Nazi Germany is NOT AN
EXAGGERATION anymore.
Silence is complacency. Please share this post. Please spread this
information. Please get involved. Do not allow or condone this
conduct by our federal government. I don't care which political
party you support, this is an affront to the U.S. Constitution and
the founding principals of our nation.
_ _ _ _ _ _

Nightly videos coming out of Portland show this is bullshit, but
considering the source, I wouldn't expect anything other from you.

"Portland has been given over to the mob Cowardly politicians
let the protests spiral out of control."
<https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/07/31/portland-has-been-given-over-to-the-mob/>

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiked_(magazine)

Brendan O'Neill, editor of Spiked* Magazine, is considered by
the eminently respectable British magazine 'The Spectator'
to be worthy of contributing to its pages:

<https://www.spectator.co.uk/writer/brendan-oneill>

FYI 'The Spectator' includes our Prime Minister among its editors.

* In publishing jargon: "spiked" means "a story too hot to print".
In other words, "too likely to ruffle some important feathers".

-all of which is a very large red herring.
May we now return to the point, please?

[kensi]

Post by Sn!pe
FYI 'The Spectator' includes our Prime Minister among its editors.

That's hardly a ringing endorsement, considering what a completely
brain-buggered buffoon BoJo is. :/

[chrisv]

Post by Sn!pe

Post by Sn!pe
<https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/07/31/portland-has-been-given-over-

to-the-mob/>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiked_(magazine)

You might try snipping.

[%]

Post by chrisv

Post by Sn!pe

Post by Sn!pe
<https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/07/31/portland-has-been-given-over-

to-the-mob/>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiked_(magazine)

You might try snipping.

no way that's for those who support cry babies

[Checkmate]

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Post by chrisv

Post by Sn!pe

Post by Sn!pe
<https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/07/31/portland-has-been-given-over-

to-the-mob/>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiked_(magazine)

You might try snipping.

You might try cock sucking, Princess.
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On Sun, 02 Aug 2020 20:24:22 -0500 chrisv put forth the following ...

Post by chrisv
You might try snipping.

You might try cock sucking, Princess.

No, for perhaps the first time in his sorry little
life ChrisV is right. I, too, get so sick and tired
of stupid and rude assholes who don't snip.

They are cretins. They don't know how to
properly interact on Usenet. They are a bunch
of rude, inconsiderate bastards. They all need
to go back to the AOL chat rooms from whence
they came.

I have spoken!

[Skeeter]

On Mon, 03 Aug 2020 13:05:49 -0400, "Sir Hømer Hall, Esq."

Post by unknown
They are cretins. They don't know how to
properly interact on Usenet.

Ironic

[unknown]

Post by Skeeter

Post by unknown
They are cretins. They don't know how to
properly interact on Usenet.

Ironic

Hello and thanks for the rib invitation. I would have
loved to join you but I had previous commitments.

[%]

Post by unknown

Post by Skeeter

Post by unknown
They are cretins. They don't know how to
properly interact on Usenet.

Ironic

Hello and thanks for the rib invitation. I would have
loved to join you but I had previous commitments.

yea , he had to stick around and admire me

[mixed nuts]

Post by Sn!pe

Post by Checkmate
Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
Checkmate.
On 2 Aug 2020 17:32:05 GMT vallor put forth the following notion, which

Post by vallor
_ _ _ _ _ _ _
While I've been sort of following the ongoing events in Portland, I was
floored by the information I recently received from my father-in-law,
Alden Roberts. It is incredibly important that people know what is
happening in Portland, because it is very scary and has very real
implications for our entire country.
By way of context, Alden is a general surgeon, retired as the Chief
Medical Officer of a hospital in Vancouver, Washington, and just finished
his term as the Chairman of the Washington Medical Commission (the state
agency that licenses and oversees all doctors in the state). I share
this information to emphasize that he is a community leader, a very
smart, educated, and informed person, and is not one to exaggerate or
spread misinformation.
"1. The protests are confined to a 2 block radius around the courthouse,
and if you're 4 blocks away, you can't tell anything has been happening.
There is nothing going on outside of that region, and Portland is
functioning as normally as the Pandemic will allow. It is not burning,
nor is it out of control.
2. The protesters are absolutely peaceful at the Protests that I have
been part of, and with the exception of graffiti, are completely within
their constitutional rights to protest. The protests involve singing,
chanting, and have used "white walls" to block whites who are trying to
disrupt or corrupt the protests. Yes, cursing is rather commonplace. More
than ? of the protesters are white. All are protesting for Black Lives
Matter, although the entrance of the federal paramilitary force has
brought out a lot of people, including myself, who are incensed at the
use of unregulated federal force against law abiding citizen and against
the will of the state and local governments.
3. ALL of the protesters are wearing masks to minimize transmission of
CoV-2. However, as at times there are 1000 or more of us, it is hard
(though not impossible) to maintain social distancing. When the federal
paramilitary force is deployed, it becomes impossible.
4. The Police responded unprovoked and were brutal, but nothing like the
paramilitary force. There is a court order that forbids the police to use
teargas. I was not there when it was just the police.
5. At the protests I have attended, I did not witness any unlawfulness on
the part of the protesters. Each time, the federal paramilitary
personnel launched an apparently unprovoked attack. There have been no
"riots." The federal paramilitary force has had no training in crowd
control, has no oversight, was not invited to Portland by local
leadership, does not have any form of identification do not wear name
badges, and wears military camo. They are heavily armed with flash-bang
grenades, less-lethal bullets, pepper bullets, pepper spray and tear
gas. They will pull goggles off of protesters and spray pepper spray
into their eyes. They used a baton to beat a US Navy vet, broke his hand
and sprayed pepper spray in his eyes because he asked why they weren't
honoring their vow to protect the constitution. During the assault, he
stood still and did not resist until blinded by the pepper spray, he
turned around and walked away. The "line of mothers" on Sunday was gassed
and shot with less-lethal bullets for chanting Black Lives Matter. At
least one was pregnant. A protester holding a sign up with both hands
was shot in the head with a "non-lethal" bullet and will likely have
permanent brain damage. While I have not personally seen this, there are
videos of people being kidnapped into unmarked vans by the federal
paramilitaries as they left the protests, held for a couple of days,
interrogated, then released without charges or explanation. At this
time, re-read my first two points. The protests are no threat to
Portland and only encompass a 2 block area. They have been peaceful, with
graffiti as the only illegal activity. They are well controlled and
supported by a cross section of Portlanders. There is no reason for the
federal government to be involved, and the excessive force being used
appears to be nothing more than a political show of force against US
Citizens by the Trump administration.
6. About 3000 protesters showed up last night (July 21); all with masks,
very well behaved. Certainly no chaos, no violence on the part of the
protesters. I left at 10:30, the paramilitary attacked at 12:30. I
spent an hour talking to the medics. They say they are being targeted by
the paramilitary personnel. They are often the first to be shot at and
tear gassed. When they try to help an injured protester, the
paramilitary personnel throw flash-bangs and tear gas at them (they carry
gas masks). One of them was beaten, dragged away from the injured person
they were treating and arrested. They are from OHSU as well as Portland
Fire.
7. The Elk statue was taken down by the Police to "protect" it, but the
Elk statue was a favorite of the protesters because it was
uncontroversial; so they got a blow-up elk and put it where the real
statue used to stand. It's sort of a rallying point."
This should concern, if not terrify, all of us. This is an unidentified
and unaccountable federal police presence attacking American citizens who
are not violating any federal laws. This is literally how the "secret
police" in other authoritarian regimes began. The comparison to the
early stages of Nazi Germany is NOT AN EXAGGERATION anymore.
Silence is complacency. Please share this post. Please spread this
information. Please get involved. Do not allow or condone this conduct
by our federal government. I don't care which political party you
support, this is an affront to the U.S. Constitution and the founding
principals of our nation.
_ _ _ _ _ _

Nightly videos coming out of Portland show this is bullshit, but
considering the source, I wouldn't expect anything other from you.

"Portland has been given over to the mob
Cowardly politicians let the protests spiral out of control."
<https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/07/31/portland-has-been-given-over-to-the-mob/>

That reminds me of the time when I was living out on the island and
there was a horrible coastal storm and it was syzygy and the waves were
30 feet high crashing on the beach and almost eating houses and the
harbor master was driving around in his DUKW rescuing people and
bringing them to the taxpayer's hall where they had refreshments and a
tv news crew to interview the rescuees and the tv guys had an attractive
news girl standing out in the gale on top of a sand dune being pummeled
and stung by flying sand and spray and they were taking shots of people
in boats paddling up and down the road and it was just horrible. We was
sitting there in the house with the kids watching Saturday kid tv and
putting a shopping list together when the DUKW went by on the dry road
heading north about 30 knots with about 10 people on board and they went
down to the turnaround and took tv recordings of the Duck floating
around next to the houses with water up to the porch and then a clump of
neighbors walked by and said "free donuts and you get on tv at the
hall!!" so then we got in the car and drove into town and went shopping
and when we got back it was time for the news and we watched ourselves
out there suffering. A few day later I bumped into Wayne at the drug
store and we gabbed for a bit and he told me he's suing the harbormaster
for driving past his house going like the dickens raising a huge wave
that rose up and knocked his front door off the hinges and flooded his
fkin' front room and soaked the couch and the carpet so I wished him
luck and he said thanks.

The end.

PS. Wayne got 10 grand - new couch, carpet, new front door and door
frame, new fence and gate, and a written apology.

[Sn!pe]

Post by mixed nuts

Post by Sn!pe

Post by Checkmate
Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
Checkmate.
On 2 Aug 2020 17:32:05 GMT vallor put forth the following notion, which

Post by vallor
_ _ _ _ _ _ _
While I've been sort of following the ongoing events in Portland, I was
floored by the information I recently received from my father-in-law,
Alden Roberts. It is incredibly important that people know what is
happening in Portland, because it is very scary and has very real
implications for our entire country.
By way of context, Alden is a general surgeon, retired as the Chief
Medical Officer of a hospital in Vancouver, Washington, and just finished
his term as the Chairman of the Washington Medical Commission (the state
agency that licenses and oversees all doctors in the state). I share
this information to emphasize that he is a community leader, a very
smart, educated, and informed person, and is not one to exaggerate or
spread misinformation.
"1. The protests are confined to a 2 block radius around the courthouse,
and if you're 4 blocks away, you can't tell anything has been happening.
There is nothing going on outside of that region, and Portland is
functioning as normally as the Pandemic will allow. It is not burning,
nor is it out of control.
2. The protesters are absolutely peaceful at the Protests that I have
been part of, and with the exception of graffiti, are completely within
their constitutional rights to protest. The protests involve singing,
chanting, and have used "white walls" to block whites who are trying to
disrupt or corrupt the protests. Yes, cursing is rather commonplace. More
than ? of the protesters are white. All are protesting for Black Lives
Matter, although the entrance of the federal paramilitary force has
brought out a lot of people, including myself, who are incensed at the
use of unregulated federal force against law abiding citizen and against
the will of the state and local governments.
3. ALL of the protesters are wearing masks to minimize transmission of
CoV-2. However, as at times there are 1000 or more of us, it is hard
(though not impossible) to maintain social distancing. When the federal
paramilitary force is deployed, it becomes impossible.
4. The Police responded unprovoked and were brutal, but nothing like the
paramilitary force. There is a court order that forbids the police to use
teargas. I was not there when it was just the police.
5. At the protests I have attended, I did not witness any unlawfulness on
the part of the protesters. Each time, the federal paramilitary
personnel launched an apparently unprovoked attack. There have been no
"riots." The federal paramilitary force has had no training in crowd
control, has no oversight, was not invited to Portland by local
leadership, does not have any form of identification do not wear name
badges, and wears military camo. They are heavily armed with flash-bang
grenades, less-lethal bullets, pepper bullets, pepper spray and tear
gas. They will pull goggles off of protesters and spray pepper spray
into their eyes. They used a baton to beat a US Navy vet, broke his hand
and sprayed pepper spray in his eyes because he asked why they weren't
honoring their vow to protect the constitution. During the assault, he
stood still and did not resist until blinded by the pepper spray, he
turned around and walked away. The "line of mothers" on Sunday was gassed
and shot with less-lethal bullets for chanting Black Lives Matter. At
least one was pregnant. A protester holding a sign up with both hands
was shot in the head with a "non-lethal" bullet and will likely have
permanent brain damage. While I have not personally seen this, there are
videos of people being kidnapped into unmarked vans by the federal
paramilitaries as they left the protests, held for a couple of days,
interrogated, then released without charges or explanation. At this
time, re-read my first two points. The protests are no threat to
Portland and only encompass a 2 block area. They have been peaceful, with
graffiti as the only illegal activity. They are well controlled and
supported by a cross section of Portlanders. There is no reason for the
federal government to be involved, and the excessive force being used
appears to be nothing more than a political show of force against US
Citizens by the Trump administration.
6. About 3000 protesters showed up last night (July 21); all with masks,
very well behaved. Certainly no chaos, no violence on the part of the
protesters. I left at 10:30, the paramilitary attacked at 12:30. I
spent an hour talking to the medics. They say they are being targeted by
the paramilitary personnel. They are often the first to be shot at and
tear gassed. When they try to help an injured protester, the
paramilitary personnel throw flash-bangs and tear gas at them (they carry
gas masks). One of them was beaten, dragged away from the injured person
they were treating and arrested. They are from OHSU as well as Portland
Fire.
7. The Elk statue was taken down by the Police to "protect" it, but the
Elk statue was a favorite of the protesters because it was
uncontroversial; so they got a blow-up elk and put it where the real
statue used to stand. It's sort of a rallying point."
This should concern, if not terrify, all of us. This is an unidentified
and unaccountable federal police presence attacking American citizens who
are not violating any federal laws. This is literally how the "secret
police" in other authoritarian regimes began. The comparison to the
early stages of Nazi Germany is NOT AN EXAGGERATION anymore.
Silence is complacency. Please share this post. Please spread this
information. Please get involved. Do not allow or condone this conduct
by our federal government. I don't care which political party you
support, this is an affront to the U.S. Constitution and the founding
principals of our nation.
_ _ _ _ _ _

Nightly videos coming out of Portland show this is bullshit, but
considering the source, I wouldn't expect anything other from you.

"Portland has been given over to the mob
Cowardly politicians let the protests spiral out of control."
<https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/07/31/portland-has-been-given-over-to-the-mob/>

That reminds me of the time when I was living out on the island and
there was a horrible coastal storm and it was syzygy and the waves were
30 feet high crashing on the beach and almost eating houses and the
harbor master was driving around in his DUKW rescuing people and
bringing them to the taxpayer's hall where they had refreshments and a
tv news crew to interview the rescuees and the tv guys had an attractive
news girl standing out in the gale on top of a sand dune being pummeled
and stung by flying sand and spray and they were taking shots of people
in boats paddling up and down the road and it was just horrible. We was
sitting there in the house with the kids watching Saturday kid tv and
putting a shopping list together when the DUKW went by on the dry road
heading north about 30 knots with about 10 people on board and they went
down to the turnaround and took tv recordings of the Duck floating
around next to the houses with water up to the porch and then a clump of
neighbors walked by and said "free donuts and you get on tv at the
hall!!" so then we got in the car and drove into town and went shopping
and when we got back it was time for the news and we watched ourselves
out there suffering. A few day later I bumped into Wayne at the drug
store and we gabbed for a bit and he told me he's suing the harbormaster
for driving past his house going like the dickens raising a huge wave
that rose up and knocked his front door off the hinges and flooded his
fkin' front room and soaked the couch and the carpet so I wished him
luck and he said thanks.
The end.
PS. Wayne got 10 grand - new couch, carpet, new front door and door
frame, new fence and gate, and a written apology.

Typical Nutz red herring.

[vallor]

Post by Sn!pe

Post by mixed nuts

Post by Sn!pe

Post by Checkmate
Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts
by Checkmate.
On 2 Aug 2020 17:32:05 GMT vallor put forth the following notion, which

Post by vallor
_ _ _ _ _ _ _
While I've been sort of following the ongoing events in Portland, I
was floored by the information I recently received from my
father-in-law, Alden Roberts. It is incredibly important that
people know what is happening in Portland, because it is very scary
and has very real implications for our entire country.
By way of context, Alden is a general surgeon, retired as the Chief
Medical Officer of a hospital in Vancouver, Washington, and just
finished his term as the Chairman of the Washington Medical
Commission (the state agency that licenses and oversees all doctors
in the state). I share this information to emphasize that he is a
community leader, a very smart, educated, and informed person, and
is not one to exaggerate or spread misinformation.
"1. The protests are confined to a 2 block radius around the
courthouse, and if you're 4 blocks away, you can't tell anything
has been happening. There is nothing going on outside of that
region, and Portland is functioning as normally as the Pandemic
will allow. It is not burning, nor is it out of control.
2. The protesters are absolutely peaceful at the Protests that I
have been part of, and with the exception of graffiti, are
completely within their constitutional rights to protest. The
protests involve singing, chanting, and have used "white walls" to
block whites who are trying to disrupt or corrupt the protests.
Yes, cursing is rather commonplace. More than ? of the protesters
are white. All are protesting for Black Lives Matter, although the
entrance of the federal paramilitary force has brought out a lot of
people, including myself, who are incensed at the use of
unregulated federal force against law abiding citizen and against
the will of the state and local governments.
3. ALL of the protesters are wearing masks to minimize transmission
of CoV-2. However, as at times there are 1000 or more of us, it is
hard (though not impossible) to maintain social distancing. When
the federal paramilitary force is deployed, it becomes impossible.
4. The Police responded unprovoked and were brutal, but nothing
like the paramilitary force. There is a court order that forbids
the police to use teargas. I was not there when it was just the
police.
5. At the protests I have attended, I did not witness any
unlawfulness on the part of the protesters. Each time, the federal
paramilitary personnel launched an apparently unprovoked attack.
There have been no "riots." The federal paramilitary force has had
no training in crowd control, has no oversight, was not invited to
Portland by local leadership, does not have any form of
identification do not wear name badges, and wears military camo.
They are heavily armed with flash-bang grenades, less-lethal
bullets, pepper bullets, pepper spray and tear gas. They will pull
goggles off of protesters and spray pepper spray into their eyes.
They used a baton to beat a US Navy vet, broke his hand and sprayed
pepper spray in his eyes because he asked why they weren't honoring
their vow to protect the constitution. During the assault, he
stood still and did not resist until blinded by the pepper spray,
he turned around and walked away. The "line of mothers" on Sunday
was gassed and shot with less-lethal bullets for chanting Black
Lives Matter. At least one was pregnant. A protester holding a
sign up with both hands was shot in the head with a "non-lethal"
bullet and will likely have permanent brain damage. While I have
not personally seen this, there are videos of people being
kidnapped into unmarked vans by the federal paramilitaries as they
left the protests, held for a couple of days, interrogated, then
released without charges or explanation. At this time, re-read my
first two points. The protests are no threat to Portland and only
encompass a 2 block area. They have been peaceful, with graffiti as
the only illegal activity. They are well controlled and supported
by a cross section of Portlanders. There is no reason for the
federal government to be involved, and the excessive force being
used appears to be nothing more than a political show of force
against US Citizens by the Trump administration.
6. About 3000 protesters showed up last night (July 21); all with
masks, very well behaved. Certainly no chaos, no violence on the
part of the protesters. I left at 10:30, the paramilitary attacked
at 12:30. I spent an hour talking to the medics. They say they
are being targeted by the paramilitary personnel. They are often
the first to be shot at and tear gassed. When they try to help an
injured protester, the paramilitary personnel throw flash-bangs and
tear gas at them (they carry gas masks). One of them was beaten,
dragged away from the injured person they were treating and
arrested. They are from OHSU as well as Portland Fire.
7. The Elk statue was taken down by the Police to "protect" it, but
the Elk statue was a favorite of the protesters because it was
uncontroversial; so they got a blow-up elk and put it where the
real statue used to stand. It's sort of a rallying point."
This should concern, if not terrify, all of us. This is an
unidentified and unaccountable federal police presence attacking
American citizens who are not violating any federal laws. This is
literally how the "secret police" in other authoritarian regimes
began. The comparison to the early stages of Nazi Germany is NOT
AN EXAGGERATION anymore.
Silence is complacency. Please share this post. Please spread
this information. Please get involved. Do not allow or condone
this conduct by our federal government. I don't care which
political party you support, this is an affront to the U.S.
Constitution and the founding principals of our nation.
_ _ _ _ _ _

Nightly videos coming out of Portland show this is bullshit, but
considering the source, I wouldn't expect anything other from you.

A contrary view from a contrary (but respectable) British
"Portland has been given over to the mob Cowardly politicians let the
protests spiral out of control."
<https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/07/31/portland-has-been-given-

over-to-the-mob/>

Post by Sn!pe

Post by mixed nuts
That reminds me of the time when I was living out on the island and
there was a horrible coastal storm and it was syzygy and the waves were
30 feet high crashing on the beach and almost eating houses and the
harbor master was driving around in his DUKW rescuing people and
bringing them to the taxpayer's hall where they had refreshments and a
tv news crew to interview the rescuees and the tv guys had an
attractive news girl standing out in the gale on top of a sand dune
being pummeled and stung by flying sand and spray and they were taking
shots of people in boats paddling up and down the road and it was just
horrible. We was sitting there in the house with the kids watching
Saturday kid tv and putting a shopping list together when the DUKW went
by on the dry road heading north about 30 knots with about 10 people on
board and they went down to the turnaround and took tv recordings of
the Duck floating around next to the houses with water up to the porch
and then a clump of neighbors walked by and said "free donuts and you
get on tv at the hall!!" so then we got in the car and drove into town
and went shopping and when we got back it was time for the news and we
watched ourselves out there suffering. A few day later I bumped into
Wayne at the drug store and we gabbed for a bit and he told me he's
suing the harbormaster for driving past his house going like the
dickens raising a huge wave that rose up and knocked his front door off
the hinges and flooded his fkin' front room and soaked the couch and
the carpet so I wished him luck and he said thanks.
The end.
PS. Wayne got 10 grand - new couch, carpet, new front door and door
frame, new fence and gate, and a written apology.

Typical Nutz red herring.

Typical misnaming a story as a "red herring".

One might call it a "parable", except it's a real life event he lived
through.

The opposing view might be that news organizations don't sensationalize
their coverage...including Fox.

Alas, that doesn't pass the giggle test.

[Skeeter]

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Post by Checkmate
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On 2 Aug 2020 17:32:05 GMT vallor put forth the following notion, which

Post by vallor
_ _ _ _ _ _ _
While I've been sort of following the ongoing events in Portland, I
was floored by the information I recently received from my
father-in-law, Alden Roberts. It is incredibly important that
people know what is happening in Portland, because it is very scary
and has very real implications for our entire country.
By way of context, Alden is a general surgeon, retired as the Chief
Medical Officer of a hospital in Vancouver, Washington, and just
finished his term as the Chairman of the Washington Medical
Commission (the state agency that licenses and oversees all doctors
in the state). I share this information to emphasize that he is a
community leader, a very smart, educated, and informed person, and
is not one to exaggerate or spread misinformation.
"1. The protests are confined to a 2 block radius around the
courthouse, and if you're 4 blocks away, you can't tell anything
has been happening. There is nothing going on outside of that
region, and Portland is functioning as normally as the Pandemic
will allow. It is not burning, nor is it out of control.
2. The protesters are absolutely peaceful at the Protests that I
have been part of, and with the exception of graffiti, are
completely within their constitutional rights to protest. The
protests involve singing, chanting, and have used "white walls" to
block whites who are trying to disrupt or corrupt the protests.
Yes, cursing is rather commonplace. More than ? of the protesters
are white. All are protesting for Black Lives Matter, although the
entrance of the federal paramilitary force has brought out a lot of
people, including myself, who are incensed at the use of
unregulated federal force against law abiding citizen and against
the will of the state and local governments.
3. ALL of the protesters are wearing masks to minimize transmission
of CoV-2. However, as at times there are 1000 or more of us, it is
hard (though not impossible) to maintain social distancing. When
the federal paramilitary force is deployed, it becomes impossible.
4. The Police responded unprovoked and were brutal, but nothing
like the paramilitary force. There is a court order that forbids
the police to use teargas. I was not there when it was just the
police.
5. At the protests I have attended, I did not witness any
unlawfulness on the part of the protesters. Each time, the federal
paramilitary personnel launched an apparently unprovoked attack.
There have been no "riots." The federal paramilitary force has had
no training in crowd control, has no oversight, was not invited to
Portland by local leadership, does not have any form of
identification do not wear name badges, and wears military camo.
They are heavily armed with flash-bang grenades, less-lethal
bullets, pepper bullets, pepper spray and tear gas. They will pull
goggles off of protesters and spray pepper spray into their eyes.
They used a baton to beat a US Navy vet, broke his hand and sprayed
pepper spray in his eyes because he asked why they weren't honoring
their vow to protect the constitution. During the assault, he
stood still and did not resist until blinded by the pepper spray,
he turned around and walked away. The "line of mothers" on Sunday
was gassed and shot with less-lethal bullets for chanting Black
Lives Matter. At least one was pregnant. A protester holding a
sign up with both hands was shot in the head with a "non-lethal"
bullet and will likely have permanent brain damage. While I have
not personally seen this, there are videos of people being
kidnapped into unmarked vans by the federal paramilitaries as they
left the protests, held for a couple of days, interrogated, then
released without charges or explanation. At this time, re-read my
first two points. The protests are no threat to Portland and only
encompass a 2 block area. They have been peaceful, with graffiti as
the only illegal activity. They are well controlled and supported
by a cross section of Portlanders. There is no reason for the
federal government to be involved, and the excessive force being
used appears to be nothing more than a political show of force
against US Citizens by the Trump administration.
6. About 3000 protesters showed up last night (July 21); all with
masks, very well behaved. Certainly no chaos, no violence on the
part of the protesters. I left at 10:30, the paramilitary attacked
at 12:30. I spent an hour talking to the medics. They say they
are being targeted by the paramilitary personnel. They are often
the first to be shot at and tear gassed. When they try to help an
injured protester, the paramilitary personnel throw flash-bangs and
tear gas at them (they carry gas masks). One of them was beaten,
dragged away from the injured person they were treating and
arrested. They are from OHSU as well as Portland Fire.
7. The Elk statue was taken down by the Police to "protect" it, but
the Elk statue was a favorite of the protesters because it was
uncontroversial; so they got a blow-up elk and put it where the
real statue used to stand. It's sort of a rallying point."
This should concern, if not terrify, all of us. This is an
unidentified and unaccountable federal police presence attacking
American citizens who are not violating any federal laws. This is
literally how the "secret police" in other authoritarian regimes
began. The comparison to the early stages of Nazi Germany is NOT
AN EXAGGERATION anymore.
Silence is complacency. Please share this post. Please spread
this information. Please get involved. Do not allow or condone
this conduct by our federal government. I don't care which
political party you support, this is an affront to the U.S.
Constitution and the founding principals of our nation.
_ _ _ _ _ _

Nightly videos coming out of Portland show this is bullshit, but
considering the source, I wouldn't expect anything other from you.

A contrary view from a contrary (but respectable) British
"Portland has been given over to the mob Cowardly politicians let the
protests spiral out of control."
<https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/07/31/portland-has-been-given-

over-to-the-mob/>

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That reminds me of the time when I was living out on the island and
there was a horrible coastal storm and it was syzygy and the waves were
30 feet high crashing on the beach and almost eating houses and the
harbor master was driving around in his DUKW rescuing people and
bringing them to the taxpayer's hall where they had refreshments and a
tv news crew to interview the rescuees and the tv guys had an
attractive news girl standing out in the gale on top of a sand dune
being pummeled and stung by flying sand and spray and they were taking
shots of people in boats paddling up and down the road and it was just
horrible. We was sitting there in the house with the kids watching
Saturday kid tv and putting a shopping list together when the DUKW went
by on the dry road heading north about 30 knots with about 10 people on
board and they went down to the turnaround and took tv recordings of
the Duck floating around next to the houses with water up to the porch
and then a clump of neighbors walked by and said "free donuts and you
get on tv at the hall!!" so then we got in the car and drove into town
and went shopping and when we got back it was time for the news and we
watched ourselves out there suffering. A few day later I bumped into
Wayne at the drug store and we gabbed for a bit and he told me he's
suing the harbormaster for driving past his house going like the
dickens raising a huge wave that rose up and knocked his front door off
the hinges and flooded his fkin' front room and soaked the couch and
the carpet so I wished him luck and he said thanks.
The end.
PS. Wayne got 10 grand - new couch, carpet, new front door and door
frame, new fence and gate, and a written apology.

Typical Nutz red herring.

Typical misnaming a story as a "red herring".
One might call it a "parable", except it's a real life event he lived
through.

How do you know?

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The opposing view might be that news organizations don't sensationalize
their coverage...including Fox.
Alas, that doesn't pass the giggle test.

[mixed nuts]

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Checkmate.
On 2 Aug 2020 17:32:05 GMT vallor put forth the following notion, which

Post by vallor
_ _ _ _ _ _ _
While I've been sort of following the ongoing events in Portland, I was
floored by the information I recently received from my father-in-law,
Alden Roberts. It is incredibly important that people know what is
happening in Portland, because it is very scary and has very real
implications for our entire country.
By way of context, Alden is a general surgeon, retired as the Chief
Medical Officer of a hospital in Vancouver, Washington, and just finished
his term as the Chairman of the Washington Medical Commission (the state
agency that licenses and oversees all doctors in the state). I share
this information to emphasize that he is a community leader, a very
smart, educated, and informed person, and is not one to exaggerate or
spread misinformation.
"1. The protests are confined to a 2 block radius around the courthouse,
and if you're 4 blocks away, you can't tell anything has been happening.
There is nothing going on outside of that region, and Portland is
functioning as normally as the Pandemic will allow. It is not burning,
nor is it out of control.
2. The protesters are absolutely peaceful at the Protests that I have
been part of, and with the exception of graffiti, are completely within
their constitutional rights to protest. The protests involve singing,
chanting, and have used "white walls" to block whites who are trying to
disrupt or corrupt the protests. Yes, cursing is rather commonplace. More
than ? of the protesters are white. All are protesting for Black Lives
Matter, although the entrance of the federal paramilitary force has
brought out a lot of people, including myself, who are incensed at the
use of unregulated federal force against law abiding citizen and against
the will of the state and local governments.
3. ALL of the protesters are wearing masks to minimize transmission of
CoV-2. However, as at times there are 1000 or more of us, it is hard
(though not impossible) to maintain social distancing. When the federal
paramilitary force is deployed, it becomes impossible.
4. The Police responded unprovoked and were brutal, but nothing like the
paramilitary force. There is a court order that forbids the police to use
teargas. I was not there when it was just the police.
5. At the protests I have attended, I did not witness any unlawfulness on
the part of the protesters. Each time, the federal paramilitary
personnel launched an apparently unprovoked attack. There have been no
"riots." The federal paramilitary force has had no training in crowd
control, has no oversight, was not invited to Portland by local
leadership, does not have any form of identification do not wear name
badges, and wears military camo. They are heavily armed with flash-bang
grenades, less-lethal bullets, pepper bullets, pepper spray and tear
gas. They will pull goggles off of protesters and spray pepper spray
into their eyes. They used a baton to beat a US Navy vet, broke his hand
and sprayed pepper spray in his eyes because he asked why they weren't
honoring their vow to protect the constitution. During the assault, he
stood still and did not resist until blinded by the pepper spray, he
turned around and walked away. The "line of mothers" on Sunday was gassed
and shot with less-lethal bullets for chanting Black Lives Matter. At
least one was pregnant. A protester holding a sign up with both hands
was shot in the head with a "non-lethal" bullet and will likely have
permanent brain damage. While I have not personally seen this, there are
videos of people being kidnapped into unmarked vans by the federal
paramilitaries as they left the protests, held for a couple of days,
interrogated, then released without charges or explanation. At this
time, re-read my first two points. The protests are no threat to
Portland and only encompass a 2 block area. They have been peaceful, with
graffiti as the only illegal activity. They are well controlled and
supported by a cross section of Portlanders. There is no reason for the
federal government to be involved, and the excessive force being used
appears to be nothing more than a political show of force against US
Citizens by the Trump administration.
6. About 3000 protesters showed up last night (July 21); all with masks,
very well behaved. Certainly no chaos, no violence on the part of the
protesters. I left at 10:30, the paramilitary attacked at 12:30. I
spent an hour talking to the medics. They say they are being targeted by
the paramilitary personnel. They are often the first to be shot at and
tear gassed. When they try to help an injured protester, the
paramilitary personnel throw flash-bangs and tear gas at them (they carry
gas masks). One of them was beaten, dragged away from the injured person
they were treating and arrested. They are from OHSU as well as Portland
Fire.
7. The Elk statue was taken down by the Police to "protect" it, but the
Elk statue was a favorite of the protesters because it was
uncontroversial; so they got a blow-up elk and put it where the real
statue used to stand. It's sort of a rallying point."
This should concern, if not terrify, all of us. This is an unidentified
and unaccountable federal police presence attacking American citizens who
are not violating any federal laws. This is literally how the "secret
police" in other authoritarian regimes began. The comparison to the
early stages of Nazi Germany is NOT AN EXAGGERATION anymore.
Silence is complacency. Please share this post. Please spread this
information. Please get involved. Do not allow or condone this conduct
by our federal government. I don't care which political party you
support, this is an affront to the U.S. Constitution and the founding
principals of our nation.
_ _ _ _ _ _

Nightly videos coming out of Portland show this is bullshit, but
considering the source, I wouldn't expect anything other from you.

"Portland has been given over to the mob
Cowardly politicians let the protests spiral out of control."
<https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/07/31/portland-has-been-given-over-to-the-mob/>

That reminds me of the time when I was living out on the island and
there was a horrible coastal storm and it was syzygy and the waves were
30 feet high crashing on the beach and almost eating houses and the
harbor master was driving around in his DUKW rescuing people and
bringing them to the taxpayer's hall where they had refreshments and a
tv news crew to interview the rescuees and the tv guys had an attractive
news girl standing out in the gale on top of a sand dune being pummeled
and stung by flying sand and spray and they were taking shots of people
in boats paddling up and down the road and it was just horrible. We was
sitting there in the house with the kids watching Saturday kid tv and
putting a shopping list together when the DUKW went by on the dry road
heading north about 30 knots with about 10 people on board and they went
down to the turnaround and took tv recordings of the Duck floating
around next to the houses with water up to the porch and then a clump of
neighbors walked by and said "free donuts and you get on tv at the
hall!!" so then we got in the car and drove into town and went shopping
and when we got back it was time for the news and we watched ourselves
out there suffering. A few day later I bumped into Wayne at the drug
store and we gabbed for a bit and he told me he's suing the harbormaster
for driving past his house going like the dickens raising a huge wave
that rose up and knocked his front door off the hinges and flooded his
fkin' front room and soaked the couch and the carpet so I wished him
luck and he said thanks.
The end.
PS. Wayne got 10 grand - new couch, carpet, new front door and door
frame, new fence and gate, and a written apology.

Typical Nutz red herring.

Typical mush brain response.

Lemme help you out Mr. Dumnass:

You get the news the Faux Nooz tv crew wants to make for you. It was a
Faux Nooz exclusive because no other Nooz outlet, including the local
newspaper, thought it worth saying much about beyond a couple of photos
for human interest. It's a normal thing for a little splashover to put
water and sand onto the road when it's king tide time and a storm blows
through. Even the boats in the road weren't in the road - they were in
the marsh but if you got the right angle, it looked that way. Nobody
would have showed up at the hall if the tv people hadn't put donuts and
coffee out for bait.

You sell more pickup trucks and tampons that way. And toilet paper.

[Janithor]

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Typical Nutz red herring.

Typical mush brain response.
You get the news the Faux Nooz tv crew wants to make for you.  It was a
Faux Nooz exclusive because no other Nooz outlet, including the local
newspaper, thought it worth saying much about beyond a couple of photos
for human interest.  It's a normal thing for a little splashover to put
water and sand onto the road when it's king tide time and a storm blows
through.  Even the boats in the road weren't in the road - they were in
the marsh but if you got the right angle, it looked that way.  Nobody
would have showed up at the hall if the tv people hadn't put donuts and
coffee out for bait.
You sell more pickup trucks and tampons that way.  And toilet paper.

At least he's smart enough to know that when people burn shit, throw
bricks and frozen water bottles, kick people in the head, and steal,
that's not very peaceful.

Dumnass.

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Post by Sn!pe
Typical Nutz red herring.

Typical mush brain response.
You get the news the Faux Nooz tv crew wants to make for you.  It was
a Faux Nooz exclusive because no other Nooz outlet, including the
local newspaper, thought it worth saying much about beyond a couple of
photos for human interest.  It's a normal thing for a little
splashover to put water and sand onto the road when it's king tide
time and a storm blows through.  Even the boats in the road weren't in
the road - they were in the marsh but if you got the right angle, it
looked that way.  Nobody would have showed up at the hall if the tv
people hadn't put donuts and coffee out for bait.
You sell more pickup trucks and tampons that way.  And toilet paper.

At least he's smart enough to know that when people burn shit, throw
bricks and frozen water bottles, kick people in the head, and steal,
that's not very peaceful.
Dumnass.

and who might you think just for fun sake are the world's most violent
people

[Janithor]

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Typical Nutz red herring.

Typical mush brain response.
You get the news the Faux Nooz tv crew wants to make for you.  It was
a Faux Nooz exclusive because no other Nooz outlet, including the
local newspaper, thought it worth saying much about beyond a couple
of photos for human interest.  It's a normal thing for a little
splashover to put water and sand onto the road when it's king tide
time and a storm blows through.  Even the boats in the road weren't
in the road - they were in the marsh but if you got the right angle,
it looked that way.  Nobody would have showed up at the hall if the
tv people hadn't put donuts and coffee out for bait.
You sell more pickup trucks and tampons that way.  And toilet paper.

At least he's smart enough to know that when people burn shit, throw
bricks and frozen water bottles, kick people in the head, and steal,
that's not very peaceful.
Dumnass.

and who might you think just for fun sake are the world's most violent
people

The lurkers - silence is violence.

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Typical Nutz red herring.

Typical mush brain response.
You get the news the Faux Nooz tv crew wants to make for you.  It
was a Faux Nooz exclusive because no other Nooz outlet, including
the local newspaper, thought it worth saying much about beyond a
couple of photos for human interest.  It's a normal thing for a
little splashover to put water and sand onto the road when it's king
tide time and a storm blows through.  Even the boats in the road
weren't in the road - they were in the marsh but if you got the
right angle, it looked that way.  Nobody would have showed up at the
hall if the tv people hadn't put donuts and coffee out for bait.
You sell more pickup trucks and tampons that way.  And toilet paper.

At least he's smart enough to know that when people burn shit, throw
bricks and frozen water bottles, kick people in the head, and steal,
that's not very peaceful.
Dumnass.

and who might you think just for fun sake are the world's most violent
people

The lurkers - silence is violence.

if you think it's abuse , it is , well then , what isn't

[mixed nuts]

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Post by Sn!pe
Typical Nutz red herring.

Typical mush brain response.
You get the news the Faux Nooz tv crew wants to make for you.  It was
a Faux Nooz exclusive because no other Nooz outlet, including the
local newspaper, thought it worth saying much about beyond a couple of
photos for human interest.  It's a normal thing for a little
splashover to put water and sand onto the road when it's king tide
time and a storm blows through.  Even the boats in the road weren't in
the road - they were in the marsh but if you got the right angle, it
looked that way.  Nobody would have showed up at the hall if the tv
people hadn't put donuts and coffee out for bait.
You sell more pickup trucks and tampons that way.  And toilet paper.

At least he's smart enough to know that when people burn shit, throw
bricks and frozen water bottles, kick people in the head, and steal,
that's not very peaceful.
Dumnass.

The real problem is that the left doesn't open carry AR-15s, knives,
clubs, grenades (smoke, teargas and percussion), and they don't dress up
in full tactical armored battle gear to become at one with the
Warfighting Law Enforcement Personnel, who are fully authorized and
highly trained and fully support the president in his godly role to
fully dominate the battlespace.

Total police winning! Very great!

[Skeeter]

On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 13:03:27 -0400, mixed nuts

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Post by Sn!pe
Typical Nutz red herring.

Typical mush brain response.
You get the news the Faux Nooz tv crew wants to make for you.  It was
a Faux Nooz exclusive because no other Nooz outlet, including the
local newspaper, thought it worth saying much about beyond a couple of
photos for human interest.  It's a normal thing for a little
splashover to put water and sand onto the road when it's king tide
time and a storm blows through.  Even the boats in the road weren't in
the road - they were in the marsh but if you got the right angle, it
looked that way.  Nobody would have showed up at the hall if the tv
people hadn't put donuts and coffee out for bait.
You sell more pickup trucks and tampons that way.  And toilet paper.

At least he's smart enough to know that when people burn shit, throw
bricks and frozen water bottles, kick people in the head, and steal,
that's not very peaceful.
Dumnass.

The real problem is that the left doesn't open carry AR-15s, knives,
clubs, grenades (smoke, teargas and percussion), and they don't dress up
in full tactical armored battle gear to become at one with the
Warfighting Law Enforcement Personnel, who are fully authorized and
highly trained and fully support the president in his godly role to
fully dominate the battlespace.
http://youtu.be/QhOVXtMWm-s
Total police winning! Very great!

Those guy didn't burn and loot. Why do you guys always over look that
part?

[mixed nuts]

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On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 13:03:27 -0400, mixed nuts

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Post by Janithor
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Post by Sn!pe
Typical Nutz red herring.

Typical mush brain response.
You get the news the Faux Nooz tv crew wants to make for you.  It was
a Faux Nooz exclusive because no other Nooz outlet, including the
local newspaper, thought it worth saying much about beyond a couple of
photos for human interest.  It's a normal thing for a little
splashover to put water and sand onto the road when it's king tide
time and a storm blows through.  Even the boats in the road weren't in
the road - they were in the marsh but if you got the right angle, it
looked that way.  Nobody would have showed up at the hall if the tv
people hadn't put donuts and coffee out for bait.
You sell more pickup trucks and tampons that way.  And toilet paper.

At least he's smart enough to know that when people burn shit, throw
bricks and frozen water bottles, kick people in the head, and steal,
that's not very peaceful.
Dumnass.

The real problem is that the left doesn't open carry AR-15s, knives,
clubs, grenades (smoke, teargas and percussion), and they don't dress up
in full tactical armored battle gear to become at one with the
Warfighting Law Enforcement Personnel, who are fully authorized and
highly trained and fully support the president in his godly role to
fully dominate the battlespace.
http://youtu.be/QhOVXtMWm-s
Total police winning! Very great!

Those guy didn't burn and loot. Why do you guys always over look that
part?

I don't like what the white supremacist anti-goverment militias are
doing any more than you do but they dress up like toy soldiers and carry
guns and knives and clubs same as the cops, and beat on people and
hammer windows, so the cops protect them because they need shit stirring
to make the police riots get going.

[Skeeter]

On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 17:22:41 -0400, mixed nuts

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On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 13:03:27 -0400, mixed nuts

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Post by mixed nuts

Post by Sn!pe
Typical Nutz red herring.

Typical mush brain response.
You get the news the Faux Nooz tv crew wants to make for you.  It was
a Faux Nooz exclusive because no other Nooz outlet, including the
local newspaper, thought it worth saying much about beyond a couple of
photos for human interest.  It's a normal thing for a little
splashover to put water and sand onto the road when it's king tide
time and a storm blows through.  Even the boats in the road weren't in
the road - they were in the marsh but if you got the right angle, it
looked that way.  Nobody would have showed up at the hall if the tv
people hadn't put donuts and coffee out for bait.
You sell more pickup trucks and tampons that way.  And toilet paper.

At least he's smart enough to know that when people burn shit, throw
bricks and frozen water bottles, kick people in the head, and steal,
that's not very peaceful.
Dumnass.

The real problem is that the left doesn't open carry AR-15s, knives,
clubs, grenades (smoke, teargas and percussion), and they don't dress up
in full tactical armored battle gear to become at one with the
Warfighting Law Enforcement Personnel, who are fully authorized and
highly trained and fully support the president in his godly role to
fully dominate the battlespace.
http://youtu.be/QhOVXtMWm-s
Total police winning! Very great!

Those guy didn't burn and loot. Why do you guys always over look that
part?

I don't like what the white supremacist anti-goverment militias are
doing any more than you do but they dress up like toy soldiers and carry
guns and knives and clubs same as the cops, and beat on people and
hammer windows, so the cops protect them because they need shit stirring
to make the police riots get going.

and he spins away from another one.

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Post by Skeeter
On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 17:22:41 -0400, mixed nuts

Post by mixed nuts

Post by Skeeter
On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 13:03:27 -0400, mixed nuts

Post by mixed nuts

Post by Janithor
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Post by mixed nuts

Post by Sn!pe
Typical Nutz red herring.

Typical mush brain response.
You get the news the Faux Nooz tv crew wants to make for you.  It was
a Faux Nooz exclusive because no other Nooz outlet, including the
local newspaper, thought it worth saying much about beyond a couple of
photos for human interest.  It's a normal thing for a little
splashover to put water and sand onto the road when it's king tide
time and a storm blows through.  Even the boats in the road weren't in
the road - they were in the marsh but if you got the right angle, it
looked that way.  Nobody would have showed up at the hall if the tv
people hadn't put donuts and coffee out for bait.
You sell more pickup trucks and tampons that way.  And toilet paper.

At least he's smart enough to know that when people burn shit, throw
bricks and frozen water bottles, kick people in the head, and steal,
that's not very peaceful.
Dumnass.

The real problem is that the left doesn't open carry AR-15s, knives,
clubs, grenades (smoke, teargas and percussion), and they don't dress up
in full tactical armored battle gear to become at one with the
Warfighting Law Enforcement Personnel, who are fully authorized and
highly trained and fully support the president in his godly role to
fully dominate the battlespace.
http://youtu.be/QhOVXtMWm-s
Total police winning! Very great!

Those guy didn't burn and loot. Why do you guys always over look that
part?

I don't like what the white supremacist anti-goverment militias are
doing any more than you do but they dress up like toy soldiers and carry
guns and knives and clubs same as the cops, and beat on people and
hammer windows, so the cops protect them because they need shit stirring
to make the police riots get going.

and he spins away from another one.

the master of the duck n dodge and if that don't work snip n deny

[Janithor]

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Post by Skeeter
On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 17:22:41 -0400, mixed nuts

Post by mixed nuts

Post by Skeeter
On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 13:03:27 -0400, mixed nuts

Post by mixed nuts

Post by Janithor
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Post by mixed nuts

Post by Sn!pe
Typical Nutz red herring.

Typical mush brain response.
You get the news the Faux Nooz tv crew wants to make for you.  It was
a Faux Nooz exclusive because no other Nooz outlet, including the
local newspaper, thought it worth saying much about beyond a couple of
photos for human interest.  It's a normal thing for a little
splashover to put water and sand onto the road when it's king tide
time and a storm blows through.  Even the boats in the road weren't in
the road - they were in the marsh but if you got the right angle, it
looked that way.  Nobody would have showed up at the hall if the tv
people hadn't put donuts and coffee out for bait.
You sell more pickup trucks and tampons that way.  And toilet paper.

At least he's smart enough to know that when people burn shit, throw
bricks and frozen water bottles, kick people in the head, and steal,
that's not very peaceful.
Dumnass.

The real problem is that the left doesn't open carry AR-15s, knives,
clubs, grenades (smoke, teargas and percussion), and they don't dress up
in full tactical armored battle gear to become at one with the
Warfighting Law Enforcement Personnel, who are fully authorized and
highly trained and fully support the president in his godly role to
fully dominate the battlespace.
http://youtu.be/QhOVXtMWm-s
Total police winning! Very great!

Those guy didn't burn and loot. Why do you guys always over look that
part?

I don't like what the white supremacist anti-goverment militias are
doing any more than you do but they dress up like toy soldiers and carry
guns and knives and clubs same as the cops, and beat on people and
hammer windows, so the cops protect them because they need shit stirring
to make the police riots get going.

and he spins away from another one.

the master of the duck n dodge and if that don't work snip n deny

Indeed.

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Post by %

Post by Skeeter
On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 17:22:41 -0400, mixed nuts

Post by mixed nuts

Post by Skeeter
On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 13:03:27 -0400, mixed nuts

Post by mixed nuts

Post by Janithor
x-no-archive: yes

Post by mixed nuts

Post by Sn!pe
Typical Nutz red herring.

Typical mush brain response.
You get the news the Faux Nooz tv crew wants to make for you.
It was
a Faux Nooz exclusive because no other Nooz outlet, including the
local newspaper, thought it worth saying much about beyond a couple of
photos for human interest.  It's a normal thing for a little
splashover to put water and sand onto the road when it's king tide
time and a storm blows through.  Even the boats in the road weren't in
the road - they were in the marsh but if you got the right angle, it
looked that way.  Nobody would have showed up at the hall if the tv
people hadn't put donuts and coffee out for bait.
You sell more pickup trucks and tampons that way.  And toilet paper.

At least he's smart enough to know that when people burn shit, throw
bricks and frozen water bottles, kick people in the head, and steal,
that's not very peaceful.
Dumnass.

The real problem is that the left doesn't open carry AR-15s, knives,
clubs, grenades (smoke, teargas and percussion), and they don't dress up
in full tactical armored battle gear to become at one with the
Warfighting Law Enforcement Personnel, who are fully authorized and
highly trained and fully support the president in his godly role to
fully dominate the battlespace.
http://youtu.be/QhOVXtMWm-s
Total police winning! Very great!

Those guy didn't burn and loot. Why do you guys always over look that
part?

I don't like what the white supremacist anti-goverment militias are
doing any more than you do but they dress up like toy soldiers and carry
guns and knives and clubs same as the cops, and beat on people and
hammer windows, so the cops protect them because they need shit stirring
to make the police riots get going.

and he spins away from another one.

the master of the duck n dodge and if that don't work snip n deny

Indeed.

so

[Janithor]

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Post by Janithor
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Post by %

Post by Skeeter
On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 17:22:41 -0400, mixed nuts

Post by mixed nuts

Post by Skeeter
On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 13:03:27 -0400, mixed nuts

Post by mixed nuts

Post by Janithor
x-no-archive: yes

Post by mixed nuts

Post by Sn!pe
Typical Nutz red herring.

Typical mush brain response.
You get the news the Faux Nooz tv crew wants to make for you.
It was
a Faux Nooz exclusive because no other Nooz outlet, including the
local newspaper, thought it worth saying much about beyond a couple of
photos for human interest.  It's a normal thing for a little
splashover to put water and sand onto the road when it's king tide
time and a storm blows through.  Even the boats in the road weren't in
the road - they were in the marsh but if you got the right angle, it
looked that way.  Nobody would have showed up at the hall if the tv
people hadn't put donuts and coffee out for bait.
You sell more pickup trucks and tampons that way.  And toilet paper.

At least he's smart enough to know that when people burn shit, throw
bricks and frozen water bottles, kick people in the head, and steal,
that's not very peaceful.
Dumnass.

The real problem is that the left doesn't open carry AR-15s, knives,
clubs, grenades (smoke, teargas and percussion), and they don't dress up
in full tactical armored battle gear to become at one with the
Warfighting Law Enforcement Personnel, who are fully authorized and
highly trained and fully support the president in his godly role to
fully dominate the battlespace.
http://youtu.be/QhOVXtMWm-s
Total police winning! Very great!

Those guy didn't burn and loot. Why do you guys always over look that
part?

I don't like what the white supremacist anti-goverment militias are
doing any more than you do but they dress up like toy soldiers and carry
guns and knives and clubs same as the cops, and beat on people and
hammer windows, so the cops protect them because they need shit stirring
to make the police riots get going.

and he spins away from another one.

the master of the duck n dodge and if that don't work snip n deny

Indeed.

so

a needle pulling thread

[%]

Post by Janithor
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Post by Janithor
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Post by %

Post by Skeeter
On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 17:22:41 -0400, mixed nuts

Post by mixed nuts

Post by Skeeter
On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 13:03:27 -0400, mixed nuts

Post by mixed nuts

Post by Janithor
x-no-archive: yes

Post by mixed nuts

Post by Sn!pe
Typical Nutz red herring.

Typical mush brain response.
You get the news the Faux Nooz tv crew wants to make for you.
It was
a Faux Nooz exclusive because no other Nooz outlet, including the
local newspaper, thought it worth saying much about beyond a couple of
photos for human interest.  It's a normal thing for a little
splashover to put water and sand onto the road when it's king tide
time and a storm blows through.  Even the boats in the road weren't in
the road - they were in the marsh but if you got the right angle, it
looked that way.  Nobody would have showed up at the hall if the tv
people hadn't put donuts and coffee out for bait.
You sell more pickup trucks and tampons that way.  And toilet paper.

At least he's smart enough to know that when people burn shit, throw
bricks and frozen water bottles, kick people in the head, and steal,
that's not very peaceful.
Dumnass.

The real problem is that the left doesn't open carry AR-15s, knives,
clubs, grenades (smoke, teargas and percussion), and they don't dress up
in full tactical armored battle gear to become at one with the
Warfighting Law Enforcement Personnel, who are fully authorized and
highly trained and fully support the president in his godly role to
fully dominate the battlespace.
http://youtu.be/QhOVXtMWm-s
Total police winning! Very great!

Those guy didn't burn and loot. Why do you guys always over look that
part?

I don't like what the white supremacist anti-goverment militias are
doing any more than you do but they dress up like toy soldiers and carry
guns and knives and clubs same as the cops, and beat on people and
hammer windows, so the cops protect them because they need shit stirring
to make the police riots get going.

and he spins away from another one.

the master of the duck n dodge and if that don't work snip n deny

Indeed.

so

a needle pulling thread

Dough, I use, to buy my beer
Ray, the guy that pours my beer (thanks Ray!)
Me,the guy, that drinks my beer
Fa, a long way to the john (gotta go now)

So....I'll have another beer
La.................................I'll have another beer
Ti, No thanks I'll have a beer
And that brings us back to (altogether now)

Dough, I use, to buy my beer
Ray, the guy that poors my beer (thanksRay!)

Me, the guy, who drinks my beer
Fa, a long way to the john( and there's a line now)

So....I'll have another beer
La...............................................I'll have another beer
Ti, No thanks I'll have a beer (drink some beer!)

And that brings us back to (by yourselves now)

Dough, i use, to buy my beer,
Ray, the guy that pours my beer (thanks Ray!)
Me, the guy who drinks my beer
Fa, a long way to the john (and there's no paper! WHAT!)

So.....I'll have another beer
La......I'll have another beer
Ti, no thanks i'll have a beer

and that brings us back to dough, dough, dough, done!

[Libtard]

Post by Skeeter
On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 13:03:27 -0400, mixed nuts

Post by mixed nuts

Post by Janithor
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Post by mixed nuts

Post by Sn!pe
Typical Nutz red herring.

Typical mush brain response.
You get the news the Faux Nooz tv crew wants to make for you.  It was
a Faux Nooz exclusive because no other Nooz outlet, including the
local newspaper, thought it worth saying much about beyond a couple of
photos for human interest.  It's a normal thing for a little
splashover to put water and sand onto the road when it's king tide
time and a storm blows through.  Even the boats in the road weren't in
the road - they were in the marsh but if you got the right angle, it
looked that way.  Nobody would have showed up at the hall if the tv
people hadn't put donuts and coffee out for bait.
You sell more pickup trucks and tampons that way.  And toilet paper.

At least he's smart enough to know that when people burn shit, throw
bricks and frozen water bottles, kick people in the head, and steal,
that's not very peaceful.
Dumnass.

The real problem is that the left doesn't open carry AR-15s, knives,
clubs, grenades (smoke, teargas and percussion), and they don't dress up
in full tactical armored battle gear to become at one with the
Warfighting Law Enforcement Personnel, who are fully authorized and
highly trained and fully support the president in his godly role to
fully dominate the battlespace.
http://youtu.be/QhOVXtMWm-s
Total police winning! Very great!

Those guy didn't burn and loot.

Neither did the "Wall of Moms", kook.

[Skeeter]

On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 22:11:23 -0000 (UTC), Libtard

Post by Libtard

Post by Skeeter
On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 13:03:27 -0400, mixed nuts

Post by mixed nuts

Post by Janithor
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Post by mixed nuts

Post by Sn!pe
Typical Nutz red herring.

Typical mush brain response.
You get the news the Faux Nooz tv crew wants to make for you.  It was
a Faux Nooz exclusive because no other Nooz outlet, including the
local newspaper, thought it worth saying much about beyond a couple of
photos for human interest.  It's a normal thing for a little
splashover to put water and sand onto the road when it's king tide
time and a storm blows through.  Even the boats in the road weren't in
the road - they were in the marsh but if you got the right angle, it
looked that way.  Nobody would have showed up at the hall if the tv
people hadn't put donuts and coffee out for bait.
You sell more pickup trucks and tampons that way.  And toilet paper.

At least he's smart enough to know that when people burn shit, throw
bricks and frozen water bottles, kick people in the head, and steal,
that's not very peaceful.
Dumnass.

The real problem is that the left doesn't open carry AR-15s, knives,
clubs, grenades (smoke, teargas and percussion), and they don't dress up
in full tactical armored battle gear to become at one with the
Warfighting Law Enforcement Personnel, who are fully authorized and
highly trained and fully support the president in his godly role to
fully dominate the battlespace.
http://youtu.be/QhOVXtMWm-s
Total police winning! Very great!

Those guy didn't burn and loot.

Neither did the "Wall of Moms", kook.

and your point?

[Janithor]

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Post by mixed nuts

Post by Janithor
x-no-archive: yes

Post by mixed nuts

Post by Sn!pe
Typical Nutz red herring.

Typical mush brain response.
You get the news the Faux Nooz tv crew wants to make for you.  It was
a Faux Nooz exclusive because no other Nooz outlet, including the
local newspaper, thought it worth saying much about beyond a couple
of photos for human interest.  It's a normal thing for a little
splashover to put water and sand onto the road when it's king tide
time and a storm blows through.  Even the boats in the road weren't
in the road - they were in the marsh but if you got the right angle,
it looked that way.  Nobody would have showed up at the hall if the
tv people hadn't put donuts and coffee out for bait.
You sell more pickup trucks and tampons that way.  And toilet paper.

At least he's smart enough to know that when people burn shit, throw
bricks and frozen water bottles, kick people in the head, and steal,
that's not very peaceful.
Dumnass.

The real problem is that the left doesn't open carry AR-15s, knives,
clubs, grenades (smoke, teargas and percussion), and they don't dress up
in full tactical armored battle gear to become at one with the
Warfighting Law Enforcement Personnel, who are fully authorized and
highly trained and fully support the president in his godly role to
fully dominate the battlespace.
http://youtu.be/QhOVXtMWm-s
Total police winning! Very great!

I enjoy watching cops stomp on douchebags.

[Libtard]

Post by Janithor
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Post by mixed nuts

Post by Janithor
x-no-archive: yes

Post by mixed nuts

Post by Sn!pe
Typical Nutz red herring.

Typical mush brain response.
You get the news the Faux Nooz tv crew wants to make for you.  It was
a Faux Nooz exclusive because no other Nooz outlet, including the
local newspaper, thought it worth saying much about beyond a couple
of photos for human interest.  It's a normal thing for a little
splashover to put water and sand onto the road when it's king tide
time and a storm blows through.  Even the boats in the road weren't
in the road - they were in the marsh but if you got the right angle,
it looked that way.  Nobody would have showed up at the hall if the
tv people hadn't put donuts and coffee out for bait.
You sell more pickup trucks and tampons that way.  And toilet paper.

At least he's smart enough to know that when people burn shit, throw
bricks and frozen water bottles, kick people in the head, and steal,
that's not very peaceful.
Dumnass.

The real problem is that the left doesn't open carry AR-15s, knives,
clubs, grenades (smoke, teargas and percussion), and they don't dress up
in full tactical armored battle gear to become at one with the
Warfighting Law Enforcement Personnel, who are fully authorized and
highly trained and fully support the president in his godly role to
fully dominate the battlespace.
http://youtu.be/QhOVXtMWm-s
Total police winning! Very great!

I enjoy watching cops stomp on douchebags.

You enjoy watching the strong prey upon the weak. That means you identify
more with the predators in that situation than you do with the prey. And
that in turn means that you are a bully.

[Janithor]

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Post by Libtard

Post by Janithor
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Post by mixed nuts

Post by Janithor
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Post by mixed nuts

Post by Sn!pe
Typical Nutz red herring.

Typical mush brain response.
You get the news the Faux Nooz tv crew wants to make for you.  It was
a Faux Nooz exclusive because no other Nooz outlet, including the
local newspaper, thought it worth saying much about beyond a couple
of photos for human interest.  It's a normal thing for a little
splashover to put water and sand onto the road when it's king tide
time and a storm blows through.  Even the boats in the road weren't
in the road - they were in the marsh but if you got the right angle,
it looked that way.  Nobody would have showed up at the hall if the
tv people hadn't put donuts and coffee out for bait.
You sell more pickup trucks and tampons that way.  And toilet paper.

At least he's smart enough to know that when people burn shit, throw
bricks and frozen water bottles, kick people in the head, and steal,
that's not very peaceful.
Dumnass.

The real problem is that the left doesn't open carry AR-15s, knives,
clubs, grenades (smoke, teargas and percussion), and they don't dress up
in full tactical armored battle gear to become at one with the
Warfighting Law Enforcement Personnel, who are fully authorized and
highly trained and fully support the president in his godly role to
fully dominate the battlespace.
http://youtu.be/QhOVXtMWm-s
Total police winning! Very great!

I enjoy watching cops stomp on douchebags.

You enjoy watching the strong prey upon the weak. That means you identify
more with the predators in that situation than you do with the prey. And
that in turn means that you are a bully.

You're stupid.

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

Post by Janithor
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Post by Janithor
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Post by mixed nuts

Post by Janithor
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Post by mixed nuts

Post by Sn!pe
Typical Nutz red herring.

Typical mush brain response.
You get the news the Faux Nooz tv crew wants to make for you.  It was
a Faux Nooz exclusive because no other Nooz outlet, including the
local newspaper, thought it worth saying much about beyond a couple
of photos for human interest.  It's a normal thing for a little
splashover to put water and sand onto the road when it's king tide
time and a storm blows through.  Even the boats in the road weren't
in the road - they were in the marsh but if you got the right angle,
it looked that way.  Nobody would have showed up at the hall if the
tv people hadn't put donuts and coffee out for bait.
You sell more pickup trucks and tampons that way.  And toilet paper.

At least he's smart enough to know that when people burn shit, throw
bricks and frozen water bottles, kick people in the head, and steal,
that's not very peaceful.
Dumnass.

The real problem is that the left doesn't open carry AR-15s, knives,
clubs, grenades (smoke, teargas and percussion), and they don't dress up
in full tactical armored battle gear to become at one with the
Warfighting Law Enforcement Personnel, who are fully authorized and
highly trained and fully support the president in his godly role to
fully dominate the battlespace.
http://youtu.be/QhOVXtMWm-s
Total police winning! Very great!

I enjoy watching cops stomp on douchebags.

You enjoy watching the strong prey upon the weak. That means you identify
more with the predators in that situation than you do with the prey. And
that in turn means that you are a bully.

You're stupid.

Wow, it didn't take him long to reduce you to slinging schoolyard insults.

Your loss has been recorded in the Offishul AUK Argument Log.

<snicker>

[TRUMP 2020]

On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 22:14:40 -0000 (UTC), Libtard

Post by Libtard

Post by Janithor
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Post by mixed nuts

Post by Janithor
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Post by mixed nuts

Post by Sn!pe
Typical Nutz red herring.

Typical mush brain response.
You get the news the Faux Nooz tv crew wants to make for you.  It was
a Faux Nooz exclusive because no other Nooz outlet, including the
local newspaper, thought it worth saying much about beyond a couple
of photos for human interest.  It's a normal thing for a little
splashover to put water and sand onto the road when it's king tide
time and a storm blows through.  Even the boats in the road weren't
in the road - they were in the marsh but if you got the right angle,
it looked that way.  Nobody would have showed up at the hall if the
tv people hadn't put donuts and coffee out for bait.
You sell more pickup trucks and tampons that way.  And toilet paper.

At least he's smart enough to know that when people burn shit, throw
bricks and frozen water bottles, kick people in the head, and steal,
that's not very peaceful.
Dumnass.

The real problem is that the left doesn't open carry AR-15s, knives,
clubs, grenades (smoke, teargas and percussion), and they don't dress up
in full tactical armored battle gear to become at one with the
Warfighting Law Enforcement Personnel, who are fully authorized and
highly trained and fully support the president in his godly role to
fully dominate the battlespace.
http://youtu.be/QhOVXtMWm-s
Total police winning! Very great!

I enjoy watching cops stomp on douchebags.

You enjoy watching the strong prey upon the weak. That means you identify
more with the predators in that situation than you do with the prey. And
that in turn means that you are a bully.

Why do they act like Rambos on the street if they are so weak? You
play big boy games you get big boy prizes.

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Post by Janithor
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Post by mixed nuts

Post by Janithor
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Post by mixed nuts

Post by Sn!pe
Typical Nutz red herring.

Typical mush brain response.
You get the news the Faux Nooz tv crew wants to make for you.  It
was a Faux Nooz exclusive because no other Nooz outlet, including
the local newspaper, thought it worth saying much about beyond a
couple of photos for human interest.  It's a normal thing for a
little splashover to put water and sand onto the road when it's king
tide time and a storm blows through.  Even the boats in the road
weren't in the road - they were in the marsh but if you got the
right angle, it looked that way.  Nobody would have showed up at the
hall if the tv people hadn't put donuts and coffee out for bait.
You sell more pickup trucks and tampons that way.  And toilet paper.

At least he's smart enough to know that when people burn shit, throw
bricks and frozen water bottles, kick people in the head, and steal,
that's not very peaceful.
Dumnass.

The real problem is that the left doesn't open carry AR-15s, knives,
clubs, grenades (smoke, teargas and percussion), and they don't dress
up in full tactical armored battle gear to become at one with the
Warfighting Law Enforcement Personnel, who are fully authorized and
highly trained and fully support the president in his godly role to
fully dominate the battlespace.
http://youtu.be/QhOVXtMWm-s
Total police winning! Very great!

I enjoy watching cops stomp on douchebags.

it's just a job , each " douchebag " is just another plugged toilet

[mixed nuts]

Post by Janithor
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Post by mixed nuts

Post by Janithor
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Post by mixed nuts

Post by Sn!pe
Typical Nutz red herring.

Typical mush brain response.
You get the news the Faux Nooz tv crew wants to make for you.  It
was a Faux Nooz exclusive because no other Nooz outlet, including
the local newspaper, thought it worth saying much about beyond a
couple of photos for human interest.  It's a normal thing for a
little splashover to put water and sand onto the road when it's king
tide time and a storm blows through.  Even the boats in the road
weren't in the road - they were in the marsh but if you got the
right angle, it looked that way.  Nobody would have showed up at the
hall if the tv people hadn't put donuts and coffee out for bait.
You sell more pickup trucks and tampons that way.  And toilet paper.

At least he's smart enough to know that when people burn shit, throw
bricks and frozen water bottles, kick people in the head, and steal,
that's not very peaceful.
Dumnass.

The real problem is that the left doesn't open carry AR-15s, knives,
clubs, grenades (smoke, teargas and percussion), and they don't dress
up in full tactical armored battle gear to become at one with the
Warfighting Law Enforcement Personnel, who are fully authorized and
highly trained and fully support the president in his godly role to
fully dominate the battlespace.
http://youtu.be/QhOVXtMWm-s
Total police winning! Very great!

I enjoy watching cops stomp on douchebags.

They just stomp. Equal opportunity except they serve and protect the
white nationalists because they stomp too, in a very constitutional way
that supports the president, who is being very badly treated (worse than
jesus and Abraham Lincoln, who was a great republican who fought the
socialists and respected southern culture and traditional family values).

[Sir Gaygory's Owner's Owner 🐶笛]

On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 18:39:01 -0400, LO AND BEHOLD; mixed nuts
<***@undulatus.budgie> determined that the following was of
great importance and subsequently decided to freely share it with us in

Post by mixed nuts

Post by Janithor

Post by mixed nuts

Post by Janithor

Post by Sn!pe
Typical Nutz red herring.

Typical mush brain response. Lemme help you out Mr. Dumnass: You get the
news the Faux Nooz tv crew wants to make for you.  It was a Faux Nooz
exclusive because no other Nooz outlet, including the local newspaper,
thought it worth saying much about beyond a couple of photos for human
interest.  It's a normal thing for a little splashover to put water and
sand onto the road when it's king tide time and a storm blows
through.  Even the boats in the road weren't in the road - they were
in the marsh but if you got the right angle, it looked that way. 
Nobody would have showed up at the hall if the tv people hadn't put
donuts and coffee out for bait. You sell more pickup trucks and tampons
that way.  And toilet paper.

At least he's smart enough to know that when people burn shit, throw
bricks and frozen water bottles, kick people in the head, and steal,
that's not very peaceful. Dumnass.

The real problem is that the left doesn't open carry AR-15s, knives,
clubs, grenades (smoke, teargas and percussion), and they don't dress
up in full tactical armored battle gear to become at one with the
Warfighting Law Enforcement Personnel, who are fully authorized and
highly trained and fully support the president in his godly role to
fully dominate the battlespace.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=?UTF-8?B?PQ==?=QhOVXtMWm-s Total police winning! Very
great!

I enjoy watching cops stomp on douchebags.

They just stomp. Equal opportunity except they serve and protect the
white nationalists because they stomp too, in a very constitutional way
that supports the president, who is being very badly treated (worse
than jesus and Abraham Lincoln, who was a great republican who fought
the socialists and respected southern culture and traditional family
values).

it's just like when he watches "his" team stomp another team on the field in teh sports ball, but instead of vicarious victolly, it is only /actual REAL/ vicarious victolly.

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Typical Nutz red herring.

Typical mush brain response.
You get the news the Faux Nooz tv crew wants to make for you.  It
was a Faux Nooz exclusive because no other Nooz outlet, including
the local newspaper, thought it worth saying much about beyond a
couple of photos for human interest.  It's a normal thing for a
little splashover to put water and sand onto the road when it's
king tide time and a storm blows through.  Even the boats in the
road weren't in the road - they were in the marsh but if you got
the right angle, it looked that way.  Nobody would have showed up
at the hall if the tv people hadn't put donuts and coffee out for
bait.
You sell more pickup trucks and tampons that way.  And toilet paper.

At least he's smart enough to know that when people burn shit, throw
bricks and frozen water bottles, kick people in the head, and steal,
that's not very peaceful.
Dumnass.

The real problem is that the left doesn't open carry AR-15s, knives,
clubs, grenades (smoke, teargas and percussion), and they don't dress
up in full tactical armored battle gear to become at one with the
Warfighting Law Enforcement Personnel, who are fully authorized and
highly trained and fully support the president in his godly role to
fully dominate the battlespace.
http://youtu.be/QhOVXtMWm-s
Total police winning! Very great!

I enjoy watching cops stomp on douchebags.

They just stomp.  Equal opportunity except they serve and protect the
white nationalists because they stomp too, in a very constitutional way
that supports the president, who is being very badly treated (worse than
jesus and Abraham Lincoln, who was a great republican who fought the
socialists and respected southern culture and traditional family values).

Yes, you've said that a few times already.

[Skeeter]

On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 04:12:27 -0400, mixed nuts

Post by mixed nuts

Post by Sn!pe

Post by mixed nuts

Post by Sn!pe

Post by Checkmate
Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
Checkmate.
On 2 Aug 2020 17:32:05 GMT vallor put forth the following notion, which

Post by vallor
_ _ _ _ _ _ _
While I've been sort of following the ongoing events in Portland, I was
floored by the information I recently received from my father-in-law,
Alden Roberts. It is incredibly important that people know what is
happening in Portland, because it is very scary and has very real
implications for our entire country.
By way of context, Alden is a general surgeon, retired as the Chief
Medical Officer of a hospital in Vancouver, Washington, and just finished
his term as the Chairman of the Washington Medical Commission (the state
agency that licenses and oversees all doctors in the state). I share
this information to emphasize that he is a community leader, a very
smart, educated, and informed person, and is not one to exaggerate or
spread misinformation.
"1. The protests are confined to a 2 block radius around the courthouse,
and if you're 4 blocks away, you can't tell anything has been happening.
There is nothing going on outside of that region, and Portland is
functioning as normally as the Pandemic will allow. It is not burning,
nor is it out of control.
2. The protesters are absolutely peaceful at the Protests that I have
been part of, and with the exception of graffiti, are completely within
their constitutional rights to protest. The protests involve singing,
chanting, and have used "white walls" to block whites who are trying to
disrupt or corrupt the protests. Yes, cursing is rather commonplace. More
than ? of the protesters are white. All are protesting for Black Lives
Matter, although the entrance of the federal paramilitary force has
brought out a lot of people, including myself, who are incensed at the
use of unregulated federal force against law abiding citizen and against
the will of the state and local governments.
3. ALL of the protesters are wearing masks to minimize transmission of
CoV-2. However, as at times there are 1000 or more of us, it is hard
(though not impossible) to maintain social distancing. When the federal
paramilitary force is deployed, it becomes impossible.
4. The Police responded unprovoked and were brutal, but nothing like the
paramilitary force. There is a court order that forbids the police to use
teargas. I was not there when it was just the police.
5. At the protests I have attended, I did not witness any unlawfulness on
the part of the protesters. Each time, the federal paramilitary
personnel launched an apparently unprovoked attack. There have been no
"riots." The federal paramilitary force has had no training in crowd
control, has no oversight, was not invited to Portland by local
leadership, does not have any form of identification do not wear name
badges, and wears military camo. They are heavily armed with flash-bang
grenades, less-lethal bullets, pepper bullets, pepper spray and tear
gas. They will pull goggles off of protesters and spray pepper spray
into their eyes. They used a baton to beat a US Navy vet, broke his hand
and sprayed pepper spray in his eyes because he asked why they weren't
honoring their vow to protect the constitution. During the assault, he
stood still and did not resist until blinded by the pepper spray, he
turned around and walked away. The "line of mothers" on Sunday was gassed
and shot with less-lethal bullets for chanting Black Lives Matter. At
least one was pregnant. A protester holding a sign up with both hands
was shot in the head with a "non-lethal" bullet and will likely have
permanent brain damage. While I have not personally seen this, there are
videos of people being kidnapped into unmarked vans by the federal
paramilitaries as they left the protests, held for a couple of days,
interrogated, then released without charges or explanation. At this
time, re-read my first two points. The protests are no threat to
Portland and only encompass a 2 block area. They have been peaceful, with
graffiti as the only illegal activity. They are well controlled and
supported by a cross section of Portlanders. There is no reason for the
federal government to be involved, and the excessive force being used
appears to be nothing more than a political show of force against US
Citizens by the Trump administration.
6. About 3000 protesters showed up last night (July 21); all with masks,
very well behaved. Certainly no chaos, no violence on the part of the
protesters. I left at 10:30, the paramilitary attacked at 12:30. I
spent an hour talking to the medics. They say they are being targeted by
the paramilitary personnel. They are often the first to be shot at and
tear gassed. When they try to help an injured protester, the
paramilitary personnel throw flash-bangs and tear gas at them (they carry
gas masks). One of them was beaten, dragged away from the injured person
they were treating and arrested. They are from OHSU as well as Portland
Fire.
7. The Elk statue was taken down by the Police to "protect" it, but the
Elk statue was a favorite of the protesters because it was
uncontroversial; so they got a blow-up elk and put it where the real
statue used to stand. It's sort of a rallying point."
This should concern, if not terrify, all of us. This is an unidentified
and unaccountable federal police presence attacking American citizens who
are not violating any federal laws. This is literally how the "secret
police" in other authoritarian regimes began. The comparison to the
early stages of Nazi Germany is NOT AN EXAGGERATION anymore.
Silence is complacency. Please share this post. Please spread this
information. Please get involved. Do not allow or condone this conduct
by our federal government. I don't care which political party you
support, this is an affront to the U.S. Constitution and the founding
principals of our nation.
_ _ _ _ _ _

Nightly videos coming out of Portland show this is bullshit, but
considering the source, I wouldn't expect anything other from you.

"Portland has been given over to the mob
Cowardly politicians let the protests spiral out of control."
<https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/07/31/portland-has-been-given-over-to-the-mob/>

That reminds me of the time when I was living out on the island and
there was a horrible coastal storm and it was syzygy and the waves were
30 feet high crashing on the beach and almost eating houses and the
harbor master was driving around in his DUKW rescuing people and
bringing them to the taxpayer's hall where they had refreshments and a
tv news crew to interview the rescuees and the tv guys had an attractive
news girl standing out in the gale on top of a sand dune being pummeled
and stung by flying sand and spray and they were taking shots of people
in boats paddling up and down the road and it was just horrible. We was
sitting there in the house with the kids watching Saturday kid tv and
putting a shopping list together when the DUKW went by on the dry road
heading north about 30 knots with about 10 people on board and they went
down to the turnaround and took tv recordings of the Duck floating
around next to the houses with water up to the porch and then a clump of
neighbors walked by and said "free donuts and you get on tv at the
hall!!" so then we got in the car and drove into town and went shopping
and when we got back it was time for the news and we watched ourselves
out there suffering. A few day later I bumped into Wayne at the drug
store and we gabbed for a bit and he told me he's suing the harbormaster
for driving past his house going like the dickens raising a huge wave
that rose up and knocked his front door off the hinges and flooded his
fkin' front room and soaked the couch and the carpet so I wished him
luck and he said thanks.
The end.
PS. Wayne got 10 grand - new couch, carpet, new front door and door
frame, new fence and gate, and a written apology.

Typical Nutz red herring.

Typical mush brain response.
You get the news the Faux Nooz tv crew wants to make for you. It was a
Faux Nooz exclusive because no other Nooz outlet, including the local
newspaper, thought it worth saying much about beyond a couple of photos
for human interest. It's a normal thing for a little splashover to put
water and sand onto the road when it's king tide time and a storm blows
through. Even the boats in the road weren't in the road - they were in
the marsh but if you got the right angle, it looked that way. Nobody
would have showed up at the hall if the tv people hadn't put donuts and
coffee out for bait.
You sell more pickup trucks and tampons that way. And toilet paper.

I wonder if copper works, because aluminum doesn't seem to be working
with you.

[mixed nuts]

Post by Skeeter
On Mon, 3 Aug 2020 04:12:27 -0400, mixed nuts

Post by mixed nuts

Post by Sn!pe

Post by mixed nuts

Post by Sn!pe

Post by Checkmate
Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
Checkmate.
On 2 Aug 2020 17:32:05 GMT vallor put forth the following notion, which

Post by vallor
_ _ _ _ _ _ _
While I've been sort of following the ongoing events in Portland, I was
floored by the information I recently received from my father-in-law,
Alden Roberts. It is incredibly important that people know what is
happening in Portland, because it is very scary and has very real
implications for our entire country.
By way of context, Alden is a general surgeon, retired as the Chief
Medical Officer of a hospital in Vancouver, Washington, and just finished
his term as the Chairman of the Washington Medical Commission (the state
agency that licenses and oversees all doctors in the state). I share
this information to emphasize that he is a community leader, a very
smart, educated, and informed person, and is not one to exaggerate or
spread misinformation.
"1. The protests are confined to a 2 block radius around the courthouse,
and if you're 4 blocks away, you can't tell anything has been happening.
There is nothing going on outside of that region, and Portland is
functioning as normally as the Pandemic will allow. It is not burning,
nor is it out of control.
2. The protesters are absolutely peaceful at the Protests that I have
been part of, and with the exception of graffiti, are completely within
their constitutional rights to protest. The protests involve singing,
chanting, and have used "white walls" to block whites who are trying to
disrupt or corrupt the protests. Yes, cursing is rather commonplace. More
than ? of the protesters are white. All are protesting for Black Lives
Matter, although the entrance of the federal paramilitary force has
brought out a lot of people, including myself, who are incensed at the
use of unregulated federal force against law abiding citizen and against
the will of the state and local governments.
3. ALL of the protesters are wearing masks to minimize transmission of
CoV-2. However, as at times there are 1000 or more of us, it is hard
(though not impossible) to maintain social distancing. When the federal
paramilitary force is deployed, it becomes impossible.
4. The Police responded unprovoked and were brutal, but nothing like the
paramilitary force. There is a court order that forbids the police to use
teargas. I was not there when it was just the police.
5. At the protests I have attended, I did not witness any unlawfulness on
the part of the protesters. Each time, the federal paramilitary
personnel launched an apparently unprovoked attack. There have been no
"riots." The federal paramilitary force has had no training in crowd
control, has no oversight, was not invited to Portland by local
leadership, does not have any form of identification do not wear name
badges, and wears military camo. They are heavily armed with flash-bang
grenades, less-lethal bullets, pepper bullets, pepper spray and tear
gas. They will pull goggles off of protesters and spray pepper spray
into their eyes. They used a baton to beat a US Navy vet, broke his hand
and sprayed pepper spray in his eyes because he asked why they weren't
honoring their vow to protect the constitution. During the assault, he
stood still and did not resist until blinded by the pepper spray, he
turned around and walked away. The "line of mothers" on Sunday was gassed
and shot with less-lethal bullets for chanting Black Lives Matter. At
least one was pregnant. A protester holding a sign up with both hands
was shot in the head with a "non-lethal" bullet and will likely have
permanent brain damage. While I have not personally seen this, there are
videos of people being kidnapped into unmarked vans by the federal
paramilitaries as they left the protests, held for a couple of days,
interrogated, then released without charges or explanation. At this
time, re-read my first two points. The protests are no threat to
Portland and only encompass a 2 block area. They have been peaceful, with
graffiti as the only illegal activity. They are well controlled and
supported by a cross section of Portlanders. There is no reason for the
federal government to be involved, and the excessive force being used
appears to be nothing more than a political show of force against US
Citizens by the Trump administration.
6. About 3000 protesters showed up last night (July 21); all with masks,
very well behaved. Certainly no chaos, no violence on the part of the
protesters. I left at 10:30, the paramilitary attacked at 12:30. I
spent an hour talking to the medics. They say they are being targeted by
the paramilitary personnel. They are often the first to be shot at and
tear gassed. When they try to help an injured protester, the
paramilitary personnel throw flash-bangs and tear gas at them (they carry
gas masks). One of them was beaten, dragged away from the injured person
they were treating and arrested. They are from OHSU as well as Portland
Fire.
7. The Elk statue was taken down by the Police to "protect" it, but the
Elk statue was a favorite of the protesters because it was
uncontroversial; so they got a blow-up elk and put it where the real
statue used to stand. It's sort of a rallying point."
This should concern, if not terrify, all of us. This is an unidentified
and unaccountable federal police presence attacking American citizens who
are not violating any federal laws. This is literally how the "secret
police" in other authoritarian regimes began. The comparison to the
early stages of Nazi Germany is NOT AN EXAGGERATION anymore.
Silence is complacency. Please share this post. Please spread this
information. Please get involved. Do not allow or condone this conduct
by our federal government. I don't care which political party you
support, this is an affront to the U.S. Constitution and the founding
principals of our nation.
_ _ _ _ _ _

Nightly videos coming out of Portland show this is bullshit, but
considering the source, I wouldn't expect anything other from you.

"Portland has been given over to the mob
Cowardly politicians let the protests spiral out of control."
<https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/07/31/portland-has-been-given-over-to-the-mob/>

That reminds me of the time when I was living out on the island and
there was a horrible coastal storm and it was syzygy and the waves were
30 feet high crashing on the beach and almost eating houses and the
harbor master was driving around in his DUKW rescuing people and
bringing them to the taxpayer's hall where they had refreshments and a
tv news crew to interview the rescuees and the tv guys had an attractive
news girl standing out in the gale on top of a sand dune being pummeled
and stung by flying sand and spray and they were taking shots of people
in boats paddling up and down the road and it was just horrible. We was
sitting there in the house with the kids watching Saturday kid tv and
putting a shopping list together when the DUKW went by on the dry road
heading north about 30 knots with about 10 people on board and they went
down to the turnaround and took tv recordings of the Duck floating
around next to the houses with water up to the porch and then a clump of
neighbors walked by and said "free donuts and you get on tv at the
hall!!" so then we got in the car and drove into town and went shopping
and when we got back it was time for the news and we watched ourselves
out there suffering. A few day later I bumped into Wayne at the drug
store and we gabbed for a bit and he told me he's suing the harbormaster
for driving past his house going like the dickens raising a huge wave
that rose up and knocked his front door off the hinges and flooded his
fkin' front room and soaked the couch and the carpet so I wished him
luck and he said thanks.
The end.
PS. Wayne got 10 grand - new couch, carpet, new front door and door
frame, new fence and gate, and a written apology.

Typical Nutz red herring.

Typical mush brain response.
You get the news the Faux Nooz tv crew wants to make for you. It was a
Faux Nooz exclusive because no other Nooz outlet, including the local
newspaper, thought it worth saying much about beyond a couple of photos
for human interest. It's a normal thing for a little splashover to put
water and sand onto the road when it's king tide time and a storm blows
through. Even the boats in the road weren't in the road - they were in
the marsh but if you got the right angle, it looked that way. Nobody
would have showed up at the hall if the tv people hadn't put donuts and
coffee out for bait.
You sell more pickup trucks and tampons that way. And toilet paper.

I wonder if copper works, because aluminum doesn't seem to be working
with you.

I'm think of getting a powerful lightweight titanium tactical armored
protective helmet with a shatter proof face shield and full neck and
throat protection with a low IR profile to make night vision targeting
difficult so I can totally dominate the battlespace.

Whaddya think, Mr. Mush Brain?

[Siri Cruise]

Post by Sn!pe

Post by Checkmate
Nightly videos coming out of Portland show this is bullshit, but
considering the source, I wouldn't expect anything other from you.

"Portland has been given over to the mob
Cowardly politicians let the protests spiral out of control."

ARISE PORTLANDERS! YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE BUT YOUR CHAINS OF
QUIKI MARTS!!~~~~!!~!

iDJT got what he wanted. Oregon would've gone to Biden anyway,
but now iDJT has scary pictures and tales of dread Innsmouth on
the Columbia to terrify his voters with.

[Skeeter]

Post by Siri Cruise

Post by Sn!pe

Post by Checkmate
Nightly videos coming out of Portland show this is bullshit, but
considering the source, I wouldn't expect anything other from you.

"Portland has been given over to the mob
Cowardly politicians let the protests spiral out of control."

ARISE PORTLANDERS! YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE BUT YOUR CHAINS OF
QUIKI MARTS!!~~~~!!~!
iDJT got what he wanted. Oregon would've gone to Biden anyway,
but now iDJT has scary pictures and tales of dread Innsmouth on
the Columbia to terrify his voters with.

BLAME TRUMP!


Damn you morons are amusing.

[vallor]

Post by Checkmate
Nightly videos coming out of Portland show this is bullshit, but
considering the source, I wouldn't expect anything other from you.

"Portland has been given over to the mob Cowardly politicians let the
protests spiral out of control."

ARISE PORTLANDERS! YOU HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE BUT YOUR CHAINS OF QUIKI
MARTS!!~~~~!!~!
iDJT got what he wanted. Oregon would've gone to Biden anyway, but now
iDJT has scary pictures and tales of dread Innsmouth on the Columbia to
terrify his voters with.

That's about the size of it.

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

Post by Checkmate
Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
Checkmate.
On 2 Aug 2020 17:32:05 GMT vallor put forth the following notion, which

Post by vallor
_ _ _ _ _ _ _
While I've been sort of following the ongoing events in Portland, I was
floored by the information I recently received from my father-in-law,
Alden Roberts. It is incredibly important that people know what is
happening in Portland, because it is very scary and has very real
implications for our entire country.
By way of context, Alden is a general surgeon, retired as the Chief
Medical Officer of a hospital in Vancouver, Washington, and just finished
his term as the Chairman of the Washington Medical Commission (the state
agency that licenses and oversees all doctors in the state). I share
this information to emphasize that he is a community leader, a very
smart, educated, and informed person, and is not one to exaggerate or
spread misinformation.
"1. The protests are confined to a 2 block radius around the courthouse,
and if you’re 4 blocks away, you can’t tell anything has been happening.
There is nothing going on outside of that region, and Portland is
functioning as normally as the Pandemic will allow. It is not burning,
nor is it out of control.
2. The protesters are absolutely peaceful at the Protests that I have
been part of, and with the exception of graffiti, are completely within
their constitutional rights to protest. The protests involve singing,
chanting, and have used “white walls” to block whites who are trying to
disrupt or corrupt the protests. Yes, cursing is rather commonplace. More
than ½ of the protesters are white. All are protesting for Black Lives
Matter, although the entrance of the federal paramilitary force has
brought out a lot of people, including myself, who are incensed at the
use of unregulated federal force against law abiding citizen and against
the will of the state and local governments.
3. ALL of the protesters are wearing masks to minimize transmission of
CoV-2. However, as at times there are 1000 or more of us, it is hard
(though not impossible) to maintain social distancing. When the federal
paramilitary force is deployed, it becomes impossible.
4. The Police responded unprovoked and were brutal, but nothing like the
paramilitary force. There is a court order that forbids the police to use
teargas. I was not there when it was just the police.
5. At the protests I have attended, I did not witness any unlawfulness on
the part of the protesters. Each time, the federal paramilitary
personnel launched an apparently unprovoked attack. There have been no
“riots.” The federal paramilitary force has had no training in crowd
control, has no oversight, was not invited to Portland by local
leadership, does not have any form of identification do not wear name
badges, and wears military camo. They are heavily armed with flash-bang
grenades, less-lethal bullets, pepper bullets, pepper spray and tear
gas. They will pull goggles off of protesters and spray pepper spray
into their eyes. They used a baton to beat a US Navy vet, broke his hand
and sprayed pepper spray in his eyes because he asked why they weren’t
honoring their vow to protect the constitution. During the assault, he
stood still and did not resist until blinded by the pepper spray, he
turned around and walked away. The “line of mothers” on Sunday was gassed
and shot with less-lethal bullets for chanting Black Lives Matter. At
least one was pregnant. A protester holding a sign up with both hands
was shot in the head with a “non-lethal” bullet and will likely have
permanent brain damage. While I have not personally seen this, there are
videos of people being kidnapped into unmarked vans by the federal
paramilitaries as they left the protests, held for a couple of days,
interrogated, then released without charges or explanation. At this
time, re-read my first two points. The protests are no threat to
Portland and only encompass a 2 block area. They have been peaceful, with
graffiti as the only illegal activity. They are well controlled and
supported by a cross section of Portlanders. There is no reason for the
federal government to be involved, and the excessive force being used
appears to be nothing more than a political show of force against US
Citizens by the Trump administration.
6. About 3000 protesters showed up last night (July 21); all with masks,
very well behaved. Certainly no chaos, no violence on the part of the
protesters. I left at 10:30, the paramilitary attacked at 12:30. I
spent an hour talking to the medics. They say they are being targeted by
the paramilitary personnel. They are often the first to be shot at and
tear gassed. When they try to help an injured protester, the
paramilitary personnel throw flash-bangs and tear gas at them (they carry
gas masks). One of them was beaten, dragged away from the injured person
they were treating and arrested. They are from OHSU as well as Portland
Fire.
7. The Elk statue was taken down by the Police to “protect” it, but the
Elk statue was a favorite of the protesters because it was
uncontroversial; so they got a blow-up elk and put it where the real
statue used to stand. It’s sort of a rallying point."
This should concern, if not terrify, all of us. This is an unidentified
and unaccountable federal police presence attacking American citizens who
are not violating any federal laws. This is literally how the "secret
police" in other authoritarian regimes began. The comparison to the
early stages of Nazi Germany is NOT AN EXAGGERATION anymore.
Silence is complacency. Please share this post. Please spread this
information. Please get involved. Do not allow or condone this conduct
by our federal government. I don't care which political party you
support, this is an affront to the U.S. Constitution and the founding
principals of our nation.
_ _ _ _ _ _

Nightly videos coming out of Portland show this is bullshit

You mean Fox News mislabeled footage of unrest in Bosnia 27
years ago and Project Veritas deepfakes and the like?

[TRUMP 2020]

On Sun, 2 Aug 2020 20:33:37 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda

Post by Nadegda
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

Post by Checkmate
Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
Checkmate.
On 2 Aug 2020 17:32:05 GMT vallor put forth the following notion, which

Post by vallor
_ _ _ _ _ _ _
While I've been sort of following the ongoing events in Portland, I was
floored by the information I recently received from my father-in-law,
Alden Roberts. It is incredibly important that people know what is
happening in Portland, because it is very scary and has very real
implications for our entire country.
By way of context, Alden is a general surgeon, retired as the Chief
Medical Officer of a hospital in Vancouver, Washington, and just finished
his term as the Chairman of the Washington Medical Commission (the state
agency that licenses and oversees all doctors in the state). I share
this information to emphasize that he is a community leader, a very
smart, educated, and informed person, and is not one to exaggerate or
spread misinformation.
"1. The protests are confined to a 2 block radius around the courthouse,
and if you’re 4 blocks away, you can’t tell anything has been happening.
There is nothing going on outside of that region, and Portland is
functioning as normally as the Pandemic will allow. It is not burning,
nor is it out of control.
2. The protesters are absolutely peaceful at the Protests that I have
been part of, and with the exception of graffiti, are completely within
their constitutional rights to protest. The protests involve singing,
chanting, and have used “white walls” to block whites who are trying to
disrupt or corrupt the protests. Yes, cursing is rather commonplace. More
than ½ of the protesters are white. All are protesting for Black Lives
Matter, although the entrance of the federal paramilitary force has
brought out a lot of people, including myself, who are incensed at the
use of unregulated federal force against law abiding citizen and against
the will of the state and local governments.
3. ALL of the protesters are wearing masks to minimize transmission of
CoV-2. However, as at times there are 1000 or more of us, it is hard
(though not impossible) to maintain social distancing. When the federal
paramilitary force is deployed, it becomes impossible.
4. The Police responded unprovoked and were brutal, but nothing like the
paramilitary force. There is a court order that forbids the police to use
teargas. I was not there when it was just the police.
5. At the protests I have attended, I did not witness any unlawfulness on
the part of the protesters. Each time, the federal paramilitary
personnel launched an apparently unprovoked attack. There have been no
“riots.” The federal paramilitary force has had no training in crowd
control, has no oversight, was not invited to Portland by local
leadership, does not have any form of identification do not wear name
badges, and wears military camo. They are heavily armed with flash-bang
grenades, less-lethal bullets, pepper bullets, pepper spray and tear
gas. They will pull goggles off of protesters and spray pepper spray
into their eyes. They used a baton to beat a US Navy vet, broke his hand
and sprayed pepper spray in his eyes because he asked why they weren’t
honoring their vow to protect the constitution. During the assault, he
stood still and did not resist until blinded by the pepper spray, he
turned around and walked away. The “line of mothers” on Sunday was gassed
and shot with less-lethal bullets for chanting Black Lives Matter. At
least one was pregnant. A protester holding a sign up with both hands
was shot in the head with a “non-lethal” bullet and will likely have
permanent brain damage. While I have not personally seen this, there are
videos of people being kidnapped into unmarked vans by the federal
paramilitaries as they left the protests, held for a couple of days,
interrogated, then released without charges or explanation. At this
time, re-read my first two points. The protests are no threat to
Portland and only encompass a 2 block area. They have been peaceful, with
graffiti as the only illegal activity. They are well controlled and
supported by a cross section of Portlanders. There is no reason for the
federal government to be involved, and the excessive force being used
appears to be nothing more than a political show of force against US
Citizens by the Trump administration.
6. About 3000 protesters showed up last night (July 21); all with masks,
very well behaved. Certainly no chaos, no violence on the part of the
protesters. I left at 10:30, the paramilitary attacked at 12:30. I
spent an hour talking to the medics. They say they are being targeted by
the paramilitary personnel. They are often the first to be shot at and
tear gassed. When they try to help an injured protester, the
paramilitary personnel throw flash-bangs and tear gas at them (they carry
gas masks). One of them was beaten, dragged away from the injured person
they were treating and arrested. They are from OHSU as well as Portland
Fire.
7. The Elk statue was taken down by the Police to “protect” it, but the
Elk statue was a favorite of the protesters because it was
uncontroversial; so they got a blow-up elk and put it where the real
statue used to stand. It’s sort of a rallying point."
This should concern, if not terrify, all of us. This is an unidentified
and unaccountable federal police presence attacking American citizens who
are not violating any federal laws. This is literally how the "secret
police" in other authoritarian regimes began. The comparison to the
early stages of Nazi Germany is NOT AN EXAGGERATION anymore.
Silence is complacency. Please share this post. Please spread this
information. Please get involved. Do not allow or condone this conduct
by our federal government. I don't care which political party you
support, this is an affront to the U.S. Constitution and the founding
principals of our nation.
_ _ _ _ _ _

Nightly videos coming out of Portland show this is bullshit

You mean Fox News mislabeled footage of unrest in Bosnia 27
years ago and Project Veritas deepfakes and the like?

That's the kind of shit CNN does, it's been proven. Youtube will give
live vids on the ground.

[vallor]

Post by Nadegda
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

Post by Checkmate
Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
Checkmate.
On 2 Aug 2020 17:32:05 GMT vallor put forth the following notion, which

Post by vallor
_ _ _ _ _ _ _
While I've been sort of following the ongoing events in Portland, I
was floored by the information I recently received from my
father-in-law,
Alden Roberts. It is incredibly important that people know what is
happening in Portland, because it is very scary and has very real
implications for our entire country.
By way of context, Alden is a general surgeon, retired as the Chief
Medical Officer of a hospital in Vancouver, Washington, and just
finished his term as the Chairman of the Washington Medical Commission
(the state agency that licenses and oversees all doctors in the
state). I share this information to emphasize that he is a community
leader, a very smart, educated, and informed person, and is not one to
exaggerate or spread misinformation.
"1. The protests are confined to a 2 block radius around the
courthouse,
and if you’re 4 blocks away, you can’t tell anything has been
happening. There is nothing going on outside of that region, and
Portland is functioning as normally as the Pandemic will allow. It is
not burning,
nor is it out of control.
2. The protesters are absolutely peaceful at the Protests that I have
been part of, and with the exception of graffiti, are completely
within their constitutional rights to protest. The protests involve
singing, chanting, and have used “white walls” to block whites who are
trying to disrupt or corrupt the protests. Yes, cursing is rather
commonplace. More than ½ of the protesters are white. All are
protesting for Black Lives Matter, although the entrance of the
federal paramilitary force has brought out a lot of people, including
myself, who are incensed at the use of unregulated federal force
against law abiding citizen and against the will of the state and
local governments.
3. ALL of the protesters are wearing masks to minimize transmission of
CoV-2. However, as at times there are 1000 or more of us, it is hard
(though not impossible) to maintain social distancing. When the
federal paramilitary force is deployed, it becomes impossible.
4. The Police responded unprovoked and were brutal, but nothing like
the paramilitary force. There is a court order that forbids the police
to use teargas. I was not there when it was just the police.
5. At the protests I have attended, I did not witness any unlawfulness
on the part of the protesters. Each time, the federal paramilitary
personnel launched an apparently unprovoked attack. There have been no
“riots.” The federal paramilitary force has had no training in crowd
control, has no oversight, was not invited to Portland by local
leadership, does not have any form of identification do not wear name
badges, and wears military camo. They are heavily armed with
flash-bang grenades, less-lethal bullets, pepper bullets, pepper spray
and tear gas. They will pull goggles off of protesters and spray
pepper spray into their eyes. They used a baton to beat a US Navy
vet, broke his hand and sprayed pepper spray in his eyes because he
asked why they weren’t honoring their vow to protect the constitution.
During the assault, he stood still and did not resist until blinded
by the pepper spray, he turned around and walked away. The “line of
mothers” on Sunday was gassed and shot with less-lethal bullets for
chanting Black Lives Matter. At least one was pregnant. A protester
holding a sign up with both hands was shot in the head with a
“non-lethal” bullet and will likely have permanent brain damage. While
I have not personally seen this, there are videos of people being
kidnapped into unmarked vans by the federal paramilitaries as they
left the protests, held for a couple of days, interrogated, then
released without charges or explanation. At this time, re-read my
first two points. The protests are no threat to Portland and only
encompass a 2 block area. They have been peaceful, with graffiti as
the only illegal activity. They are well controlled and supported by
a cross section of Portlanders. There is no reason for the federal
government to be involved, and the excessive force being used appears
to be nothing more than a political show of force against US Citizens
by the Trump administration.
6. About 3000 protesters showed up last night (July 21); all with
masks, very well behaved. Certainly no chaos, no violence on the part
of the protesters. I left at 10:30, the paramilitary attacked at
12:30. I spent an hour talking to the medics. They say they are
being targeted by the paramilitary personnel. They are often the
first to be shot at and tear gassed. When they try to help an injured
protester, the paramilitary personnel throw flash-bangs and tear gas
at them (they carry gas masks). One of them was beaten, dragged away
from the injured person they were treating and arrested. They are from
OHSU as well as Portland Fire.
7. The Elk statue was taken down by the Police to “protect” it, but
the Elk statue was a favorite of the protesters because it was
uncontroversial; so they got a blow-up elk and put it where the real
statue used to stand. It’s sort of a rallying point."
This should concern, if not terrify, all of us. This is an
unidentified and unaccountable federal police presence attacking
American citizens who are not violating any federal laws. This is
literally how the "secret police" in other authoritarian regimes
began. The comparison to the early stages of Nazi Germany is NOT AN
EXAGGERATION anymore.
Silence is complacency. Please share this post. Please spread this
information. Please get involved. Do not allow or condone this
conduct by our federal government. I don't care which political party
you support, this is an affront to the U.S. Constitution and the
founding principals of our nation.
_ _ _ _ _ _

Nightly videos coming out of Portland show this is bullshit

You mean Fox News mislabeled footage of unrest in Bosnia 27 years ago
and Project Veritas deepfakes and the like?

If you shatter his delusions brought on by his lousy news bubble, he
could get aggressive and lash out.

Good trawlin' to ya...

[Sn!pe]

Post by vallor

Post by Nadegda
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

Post by Checkmate
Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
Checkmate.
On 2 Aug 2020 17:32:05 GMT vallor put forth the following notion, which

Post by vallor
_ _ _ _ _ _ _
While I've been sort of following the ongoing events in Portland, I
was floored by the information I recently received from my
father-in-law,
Alden Roberts. It is incredibly important that people know what is
happening in Portland, because it is very scary and has very real
implications for our entire country.
By way of context, Alden is a general surgeon, retired as the Chief
Medical Officer of a hospital in Vancouver, Washington, and just
finished his term as the Chairman of the Washington Medical Commission
(the state agency that licenses and oversees all doctors in the
state). I share this information to emphasize that he is a community
leader, a very smart, educated, and informed person, and is not one to
exaggerate or spread misinformation.
"1. The protests are confined to a 2 block radius around the courthouse,
and if you're 4 blocks away, you can't tell anything has been
happening. There is nothing going on outside of that region, and
Portland is functioning as normally as the Pandemic will allow. It is
not burning,
nor is it out of control.
2. The protesters are absolutely peaceful at the Protests that I have
been part of, and with the exception of graffiti, are completely
within their constitutional rights to protest. The protests involve
singing, chanting, and have used "white walls" to block whites who are
trying to disrupt or corrupt the protests. Yes, cursing is rather
commonplace. More than ? of the protesters are white. All are
protesting for Black Lives Matter, although the entrance of the
federal paramilitary force has brought out a lot of people, including
myself, who are incensed at the use of unregulated federal force
against law abiding citizen and against the will of the state and
local governments.
3. ALL of the protesters are wearing masks to minimize transmission of
CoV-2. However, as at times there are 1000 or more of us, it is hard
(though not impossible) to maintain social distancing. When the
federal paramilitary force is deployed, it becomes impossible.
4. The Police responded unprovoked and were brutal, but nothing like
the paramilitary force. There is a court order that forbids the police
to use teargas. I was not there when it was just the police.
5. At the protests I have attended, I did not witness any unlawfulness
on the part of the protesters. Each time, the federal paramilitary
personnel launched an apparently unprovoked attack. There have been no
"riots." The federal paramilitary force has had no training in crowd
control, has no oversight, was not invited to Portland by local
leadership, does not have any form of identification do not wear name
badges, and wears military camo. They are heavily armed with
flash-bang grenades, less-lethal bullets, pepper bullets, pepper spray
and tear gas. They will pull goggles off of protesters and spray
pepper spray into their eyes. They used a baton to beat a US Navy
vet, broke his hand and sprayed pepper spray in his eyes because he
asked why they weren't honoring their vow to protect the constitution.
During the assault, he stood still and did not resist until blinded
by the pepper spray, he turned around and walked away. The "line of
mothers" on Sunday was gassed and shot with less-lethal bullets for
chanting Black Lives Matter. At least one was pregnant. A protester
holding a sign up with both hands was shot in the head with a
"non-lethal" bullet and will likely have permanent brain damage. While
I have not personally seen this, there are videos of people being
kidnapped into unmarked vans by the federal paramilitaries as they
left the protests, held for a couple of days, interrogated, then
released without charges or explanation. At this time, re-read my
first two points. The protests are no threat to Portland and only
encompass a 2 block area. They have been peaceful, with graffiti as
the only illegal activity. They are well controlled and supported by
a cross section of Portlanders. There is no reason for the federal
government to be involved, and the excessive force being used appears
to be nothing more than a political show of force against US Citizens
by the Trump administration.
6. About 3000 protesters showed up last night (July 21); all with
masks, very well behaved. Certainly no chaos, no violence on the part
of the protesters. I left at 10:30, the paramilitary attacked at
12:30. I spent an hour talking to the medics. They say they are
being targeted by the paramilitary personnel. They are often the
first to be shot at and tear gassed. When they try to help an injured
protester, the paramilitary personnel throw flash-bangs and tear gas
at them (they carry gas masks). One of them was beaten, dragged away
from the injured person they were treating and arrested. They are from
OHSU as well as Portland Fire.
7. The Elk statue was taken down by the Police to "protect" it, but
the Elk statue was a favorite of the protesters because it was
uncontroversial; so they got a blow-up elk and put it where the real
statue used to stand. It's sort of a rallying point."
This should concern, if not terrify, all of us. This is an
unidentified and unaccountable federal police presence attacking
American citizens who are not violating any federal laws. This is
literally how the "secret police" in other authoritarian regimes
began. The comparison to the early stages of Nazi Germany is NOT AN
EXAGGERATION anymore.
Silence is complacency. Please share this post. Please spread this
information. Please get involved. Do not allow or condone this
conduct by our federal government. I don't care which political party
you support, this is an affront to the U.S. Constitution and the
founding principals of our nation.
_ _ _ _ _ _

Nightly videos coming out of Portland show this is bullshit

You mean Fox News mislabeled footage of unrest in Bosnia 27 years ago
and Project Veritas deepfakes and the like?

If you shatter his delusions brought on by his lousy news bubble, he
could get aggressive and lash out.
Good trawlin' to ya...

ITYF that Paul has little credibility here in ac.

[Checkmate]

Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
Checkmate.

On Sun, 2 Aug 2020 20:33:37 -0000 (UTC) Nadegda put forth the following

Post by Nadegda

Post by Checkmate
Nightly videos coming out of Portland show this is bullshit

You mean Fox News mislabeled footage of unrest in Bosnia 27
years ago and Project Veritas deepfakes and the like?

No Wiener Wagon. I've posted links here myself which are undeniable.
There are none so blind as you with an oversized tin foil hat stretched
over your lying eyes.
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[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

Post by Checkmate
Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
Checkmate.
On Sun, 2 Aug 2020 20:33:37 -0000 (UTC) Nadegda put forth the following

Post by Nadegda

Post by Checkmate
Nightly videos coming out of Portland show this is bullshit

You mean Fox News mislabeled footage of unrest in Bosnia 27
years ago and Project Veritas deepfakes and the like?

No Wiener Wagon.

Who is "Wiener Wagon", kooky? There is nobody in this newsgroup using
that alias.

Post by Checkmate
I've posted links here myself which are undeniable.

MIDs, kooky?

[Nadegda]

Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

Post by vallor
_ _ _ _ _ _ _
While I've been sort of following the ongoing events in Portland, I was
floored by the information I recently received from my father-in-law,
Alden Roberts. It is incredibly important that people know what is
happening in Portland, because it is very scary and has very real
implications for our entire country.
By way of context, Alden is a general surgeon, retired as the Chief
Medical Officer of a hospital in Vancouver, Washington, and just finished
his term as the Chairman of the Washington Medical Commission (the state
agency that licenses and oversees all doctors in the state). I share
this information to emphasize that he is a community leader, a very
smart, educated, and informed person, and is not one to exaggerate or
spread misinformation.
"1. The protests are confined to a 2 block radius around the courthouse,
and if you’re 4 blocks away, you can’t tell anything has been happening.
There is nothing going on outside of that region, and Portland is
functioning as normally as the Pandemic will allow. It is not burning,
nor is it out of control.
2. The protesters are absolutely peaceful at the Protests that I have
been part of, and with the exception of graffiti, are completely within
their constitutional rights to protest. The protests involve singing,
chanting, and have used “white walls” to block whites who are trying to
disrupt or corrupt the protests. Yes, cursing is rather commonplace. More
than ½ of the protesters are white. All are protesting for Black Lives
Matter, although the entrance of the federal paramilitary force has
brought out a lot of people, including myself, who are incensed at the
use of unregulated federal force against law abiding citizen and against
the will of the state and local governments.
3. ALL of the protesters are wearing masks to minimize transmission of
CoV-2. However, as at times there are 1000 or more of us, it is hard
(though not impossible) to maintain social distancing. When the federal
paramilitary force is deployed, it becomes impossible.
4. The Police responded unprovoked and were brutal, but nothing like the
paramilitary force. There is a court order that forbids the police to use
teargas. I was not there when it was just the police.
5. At the protests I have attended, I did not witness any unlawfulness on
the part of the protesters. Each time, the federal paramilitary
personnel launched an apparently unprovoked attack. There have been no
“riots.” The federal paramilitary force has had no training in crowd
control, has no oversight, was not invited to Portland by local
leadership, does not have any form of identification do not wear name
badges, and wears military camo. They are heavily armed with flash-bang
grenades, less-lethal bullets, pepper bullets, pepper spray and tear
gas. They will pull goggles off of protesters and spray pepper spray
into their eyes. They used a baton to beat a US Navy vet, broke his hand
and sprayed pepper spray in his eyes because he asked why they weren’t
honoring their vow to protect the constitution. During the assault, he
stood still and did not resist until blinded by the pepper spray, he
turned around and walked away. The “line of mothers” on Sunday was gassed
and shot with less-lethal bullets for chanting Black Lives Matter. At
least one was pregnant. A protester holding a sign up with both hands
was shot in the head with a “non-lethal” bullet and will likely have
permanent brain damage. While I have not personally seen this, there are
videos of people being kidnapped into unmarked vans by the federal
paramilitaries as they left the protests, held for a couple of days,
interrogated, then released without charges or explanation. At this
time, re-read my first two points. The protests are no threat to
Portland and only encompass a 2 block area. They have been peaceful, with
graffiti as the only illegal activity. They are well controlled and
supported by a cross section of Portlanders. There is no reason for the
federal government to be involved, and the excessive force being used
appears to be nothing more than a political show of force against US
Citizens by the Trump administration.
6. About 3000 protesters showed up last night (July 21); all with masks,
very well behaved. Certainly no chaos, no violence on the part of the
protesters. I left at 10:30, the paramilitary attacked at 12:30. I
spent an hour talking to the medics. They say they are being targeted by
the paramilitary personnel. They are often the first to be shot at and
tear gassed. When they try to help an injured protester, the
paramilitary personnel throw flash-bangs and tear gas at them (they carry
gas masks). One of them was beaten, dragged away from the injured person
they were treating and arrested. They are from OHSU as well as Portland
Fire.
7. The Elk statue was taken down by the Police to “protect” it, but the
Elk statue was a favorite of the protesters because it was
uncontroversial; so they got a blow-up elk and put it where the real
statue used to stand. It’s sort of a rallying point."
This should concern, if not terrify, all of us. This is an unidentified
and unaccountable federal police presence attacking American citizens who
are not violating any federal laws. This is literally how the "secret
police" in other authoritarian regimes began. The comparison to the
early stages of Nazi Germany is NOT AN EXAGGERATION anymore.

It never was. These events prove that everyone warning about the slide into
fascism has been right all along.

Post by vallor
Silence is complacency.

At this point, silence is complicity.

Post by vallor
Please share this post. Please spread this information. Please get
involved. Do not allow or condone this conduct by our federal
government. I don't care which political party you support, this is
an affront to the U.S. Constitution and the founding principals of
our nation.

Principles, dammit. Principles. But well said.

I'm still getting settled in near Seattle but I will likely be joining
Seattle protests "soon". Portland is a bit far but the protesters there
have my moral support.

[unknown]

On Sun, 2 Aug 2020, Nadegda <***@gmail.invalid> wrote:

<trimmed a bunch of worthless drivel>

Post by Nadegda
I'm still getting settled in near Seattle but I will likely be joining
Seattle protests "soon". Portland is a bit far but the protesters there
have my moral support.

Yup, Paul, Portland and Seattle are a LONG way from Pembroke.

Fuck off, Paul.

Bye, Paul.

LOL, @ Paul.

[%]

Post by unknown
<trimmed a bunch of worthless drivel>

Post by Nadegda
I'm still getting settled in near Seattle but I will likely be joining
Seattle protests "soon". Portland is a bit far but the protesters there
have my moral support.

Yup, Paul, Portland and Seattle are a LONG way from Pembroke.
Fuck off, Paul.
Bye, Paul.

you are paul

[Sn!pe]

Post by %

Post by unknown
<trimmed a bunch of worthless drivel>

Post by Nadegda
I'm still getting settled in near Seattle but I will likely be joining
Seattle protests "soon". Portland is a bit far but the protesters there
have my moral support.

Yup, Paul, Portland and Seattle are a LONG way from Pembroke.
Fuck off, Paul.
Bye, Paul.

you are paul

That pesky Gerk wants to be everybody;
he's even copying me now.

[kensi]

Post by Sn!pe
That pesky Gerk wants to be everybody;
he's even copying me now.

The stench of desperation.

*snicker*

[Klaus Schadenfreude]

On Sun, 2 Aug 2020 20:01:36 -0000 (UTC), Nadegda

Post by Nadegda
I'm still getting settled in near Seattle but I will likely be joining
Seattle protests "soon".

Excellent. Let's hope they find you standing in the middle of the
freeway.

[Checkmate]

Warning! Always wear ANSI approved safety goggles when reading posts by
Checkmate.

On Sun, 2 Aug 2020 20:01:36 -0000 (UTC) Nadegda put forth the following

Post by Nadegda
Time to trigger the right-wing snowflakes again. Melt, snowflakes, melt!

Post by vallor
_ _ _ _ _ _ _
While I've been sort of following the ongoing events in Portland, I was
floored by the information I recently received from my father-in-law,
Alden Roberts. It is incredibly important that people know what is
happening in Portland, because it is very scary and has very real
implications for our entire country.
By way of context, Alden is a general surgeon, retired as the Chief
Medical Officer of a hospital in Vancouver, Washington, and just finished
his term as the Chairman of the Washington Medical Commission (the state
agency that licenses and oversees all doctors in the state). I share
this information to emphasize that he is a community leader, a very
smart, educated, and informed person, and is not one to exaggerate or
spread misinformation.
"1. The protests are confined to a 2 block radius around the courthouse,
and if you’re 4 blocks away, you can’t tell anything has been happening.
There is nothing going on outside of that region, and Portland is
functioning as normally as the Pandemic will allow. It is not burning,
nor is it out of control.
2. The protesters are absolutely peaceful at the Protests that I have
been part of, and with the exception of graffiti, are completely within
their constitutional rights to protest. The protests involve singing,
chanting, and have used “white walls” to block whites who are trying to
disrupt or corrupt the protests. Yes, cursing is rather commonplace. More
than ½ of the protesters are white. All are protesting for Black Lives
Matter, although the entrance of the federal paramilitary force has
brought out a lot of people, including myself, who are incensed at the
use of unregulated federal force against law abiding citizen and against
the will of the state and local governments.
3. ALL of the protesters are wearing masks to minimize transmission of
CoV-2. However, as at times there are 1000 or more of us, it is hard
(though not impossible) to maintain social distancing. When the federal
paramilitary force is deployed, it becomes impossible.
4. The Police responded unprovoked and were brutal, but nothing like the
paramilitary force. There is a court order that forbids the police to use
teargas. I was not there when it was just the police.
5. At the protests I have attended, I did not witness any unlawfulness on
the part of the protesters. Each time, the federal paramilitary
personnel launched an apparently unprovoked attack. There have been no
“riots.” The federal paramilitary force has had no training in crowd
control, has no oversight, was not invited to Portland by local
leadership, does not have any form of identification do not wear name
badges, and wears military camo. They are heavily armed with flash-bang
grenades, less-lethal bullets, pepper bullets, pepper spray and tear
gas. They will pull goggles off of protesters and spray pepper spray
into their eyes. They used a baton to beat a US Navy vet, broke his hand
and sprayed pepper spray in his eyes because he asked why they weren’t
honoring their vow to protect the constitution. During the assault, he
stood still and did not resist until blinded by the pepper spray, he
turned around and walked away. The “line of mothers” on Sunday was gassed
and shot with less-lethal bullets for chanting Black Lives Matter. At
least one was pregnant. A protester holding a sign up with both hands
was shot in the head with a “non-lethal” bullet and will likely have
permanent brain damage. While I have not personally seen this, there are
videos of people being kidnapped into unmarked vans by the federal
paramilitaries as they left the protests, held for a couple of days,
interrogated, then released without charges or explanation. At this
time, re-read my first two points. The protests are no threat to
Portland and only encompass a 2 block area. They have been peaceful, with
graffiti as the only illegal activity. They are well controlled and
supported by a cross section of Portlanders. There is no reason for the
federal government to be involved, and the excessive force being used
appears to be nothing more than a political show of force against US
Citizens by the Trump administration.
6. About 3000 protesters showed up last night (July 21); all with masks,
very well behaved. Certainly no chaos, no violence on the part of the
protesters. I left at 10:30, the paramilitary attacked at 12:30. I
spent an hour talking to the medics. They say they are being targeted by
the paramilitary personnel. They are often the first to be shot at and
tear gassed. When they try to help an injured protester, the
paramilitary personnel throw flash-bangs and tear gas at them (they carry
gas masks). One of them was beaten, dragged away from the injured person
they were treating and arrested. They are from OHSU as well as Portland
Fire.
7. The Elk statue was taken down by the Police to “protect” it, but the
Elk statue was a favorite of the protesters because it was
uncontroversial; so they got a blow-up elk and put it where the real
statue used to stand. It’s sort of a rallying point."
This should concern, if not terrify, all of us. This is an unidentified
and unaccountable federal police presence attacking American citizens who
are not violating any federal laws. This is literally how the "secret
police" in other authoritarian regimes began. The comparison to the
early stages of Nazi Germany is NOT AN EXAGGERATION anymore.

It never was. These events prove that everyone warning about the slide into
fascism has been right all along.

Post by vallor
Silence is complacency.

At this point, silence is complicity.

Post by vallor
Please share this post. Please spread this information. Please get
involved. Do not allow or condone this conduct by our federal
government. I don't care which political party you support, this is
an affront to the U.S. Constitution and the founding principals of
our nation.

Principles, dammit. Principles. But well said.
I'm still getting settled in near Seattle but I will likely be joining
Seattle protests "soon". Portland is a bit far but the protesters there
have my moral support.

You aren't anywhere near Seattle, Paul.
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[J***@.]

// Protesters set a fire that severely
// damaged the Elk Statue on Main Street
// in downtown Portland and damaged
// nearby bathrooms at Lownsdale Square
// and Chapman Park, July 2, 2020.

// the [graffitied] sculpture was to provide
// an accessible watering place for
// " bird, beast, and human ".

[rioters] are not violating any federal laws.

Three cops were permanently blinded by lasers.
Bombs and bottles were thrown, arrests were made.

If you get harmed while attacking Portland,
permanently damaging people and property,
it's your damn fault;
-- play stupid games, with stupid prizes.

By the way, why is not going to work,
and not going to church,
and rioting more each day,
permanently damaging people and property,
getting Scott Doty's blessing ?!

How is this regressive, cultural devolution,
lynching anyone found guilty of "wrong thought",
not an example of Scott Doty monkeying China ?!

The protests are confined to
a 2 block radius around the courthouse,

How can you be so blind, Scott ?!

Saturday night, in Portland:
// As one group of protesters gathered
// outside the courthouse -another- marched
// to a precinct for the Multnomah County
// Sheriff's Office -and- Portland Police Bureau.
//
// [ Lost boys ] threw glass bottles
// and directed lasers at officers.
//
// By midnight, protesters again began
// to march through the streets downtown.

These kids are "mostly peaceful"
like OJ was "mostly peaceful"
the night he killed his wife.

no chaos, no violence
on the part of the protesters.

See no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil,
get stabbed in the back by a "mentally challenged"
child who never received proper guidance.

You, Scott, have defaulted on life itself;
you've given up, joined the commune.

[chrisv]

Post by J***@.
Three cops were permanently blinded by lasers.

That's a particulary nasty weapon. Hopefully they can use cameras to
trace the source and bust them for felony assault.

[anonlinuxuser]

Post by chrisv

Post by J***@.
Three cops were permanently blinded by lasers.

That's a particulary nasty weapon. Hopefully they can use cameras to
trace the source and bust them for felony assault.

It is possible to track down these people, provided they want to pour a
bit of money on finding them. They can run but they can't hide.

[%]

Post by chrisv

Post by J***@.
Three cops were permanently blinded by lasers.

That's a particulary nasty weapon. Hopefully they can use cameras to
trace the source and bust them for felony assault.

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