Discussion:
In 1940 It Was Easy For Vichy France To Collaborate With Hitler's Nazis Because Both Were Socialists
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Clyde Armstrong
2012-01-14 17:09:05 UTC
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France has been socialist since the French Revolution. Even though it
has had many different faces to its governments in the last 300 years
France's socialist bias has always been present. It was present under
Napoleon.

Thus it was easy for the French,socialists, anti-Semitic like Hiter's
German national socialist, to end up co-operating with the Nazis, even
fighting with them agaist allied forces in the Middle East.

The so-called Free French under the socialist Charles deGualle were
just a a tiny remnant. The American army allowing a Free French
battalian under de Gualle to be the first force to re-enter Paris in
1945 was a staged joke. And the so-called French underground, the
Maquis, which did nothing, was romantized by the Western media and
socialist Hollywood.

Today, it is practically illegal in French schools to teach free-
market capitalist economics.
Kixi
2012-01-14 18:04:12 UTC
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Post by Clyde Armstrong
Thus it was easy for the French,socialists, anti-Semitic like Hiter's
German national socialist, to end up co-operating with the Nazis, even
fighting with them agaist allied forces in the Middle East.
You must be getting your history from Spielberg movies or the History
channel.

It was easy for many people to support Germany's National Scialist
policies because they were sensible and proved very effective. But it
involved booting out the jewish bankers ... so they got judea to
declare war on Germany within weeks of Hitler being appointed
Chancellor. Jewish power and propaganda ultimately got a world war
going. And even since the end of WWII that anti German propaganda
continues ... just in case you have not noticed.

Consider the anti Iran propaganda that the jews have flooded us with
for several years already. Again, Iran is simply running a successful
economy using sensible policies. But the Jews don't like Iran's
position on Palestine so they spread hateful lying propaganda to get
us to break Iran for them.
NEON China BLUE
2012-01-14 18:38:34 UTC
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Post by Kixi
It was easy for many people to support Germany's National Scialist
policies because they were sensible and proved very effective. But it
involved booting out the jewish bankers ... so they got judea to
The US didn't boot out Jewish bankers, Jewish bakers, Jewish industrialists,
Jewish soldiers, Jewish postmen, Jewish physicists that joined the Manhattan
Project, or Jewish anything else. If Germany's policy was sensible, that would
mean Germany would have outproduced the US.

Did Germany?
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M.I. Wakefield
2012-01-14 18:58:28 UTC
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Post by Kixi
Post by Clyde Armstrong
Thus it was easy for the French,socialists, anti-Semitic like Hiter's
German national socialist, to end up co-operating with the Nazis, even
fighting with them agaist allied forces in the Middle East.
You must be getting your history from Spielberg movies or the History
channel.
Wow, Lambourn ... even the neo-nazis think you're delusional.

Maybe it's time to give up on the revisionist history, and focus on what
you're good at.

Or find something you're good at ... maybe use your work experience ... lord
knows that usenet needs more grammar checkers and spelling flamers.
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2012-01-14 22:46:35 UTC
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Eddie Haskell
2012-01-16 21:44:25 UTC
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Post by Clyde Armstrong
Thus it was easy for the French,socialists, anti-Semitic like Hiter's
German national socialist, to end up co-operating with the Nazis, even
fighting with them agaist allied forces in the Middle East.
You must be getting your history from Spielberg movies or the History
channel.
It was easy for many people to support Germany's National Scialist
policies because they were sensible and proved very effective. But it
involved booting out the jewish bankers ... so they got judea to
declare war on Germany within weeks of Hitler being appointed
Chancellor. Jewish power and propaganda ultimately got a world war
going. And even since the end of WWII that anti German propaganda
continues ... just in case you have not noticed.
Consider the anti Iran propaganda that the jews have flooded us with
for several years already. Again, Iran is simply running a successful
economy using sensible policies. But the Jews don't like Iran's
position on Palestine so they spread hateful lying propaganda to get
us to break Iran for them.
You must get your history from Oliver Stone movies or NBC News.

-Eddie Haskell
Topaz
2012-01-18 01:44:37 UTC
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England's Guilt
by Joseph Goebbels

It is a major error to assume that England's plutocrats slipped into
the war against their will or even against their intentions. The
opposite is true. The English warmongers wanted the war and used all
the resources at their disposal over the years to bring it about. They
surely were not surprised by the war. English plutocracy had no goal
other than to unleash war against Germany at the right moment, and
this since Germany first began to seek once again to be a world power.
Poland really had little to do with the outbreak of war between the
Reich and England. It was only a means to an end. England did not
support the Polish government out of principle or for humanitarian
reasons. That is clear from the fact that England gave Poland no help
of any kind whatsoever when the war began. Nor did England take any
measures against Russia. The opposite, in fact. The London warring
clique to this day has tried to bring Russia into the campaign of
aggression against Germany.

The encirclement of Germany long before the outbreak of the war was
traditional English policy. From the beginning, England has always
directed its main military might against Germany. It never could
tolerate a strong Reich on the Continent. It justified its policy by
claiming that it wanted to maintain a balance of forces in Europe.

Today there is still another reason. The English warmongers conceal
it. It is crassly egotistic. The English prime minister announced the
day the war began that England's goal was to destroy Hitlerism.
However, he defined Hitlerism in a way other than how the English
plutocracy actually sees it. The English warmongers claim that
National Socialism wants to conquer the world. No nation is secure
against German aggression. An end must be made of the German hunger
for power. The limit came in the conflict with Poland. In reality,
however, there is another reason for England's war with Germany. The
English warmongers cannot seriously claim that Germany wants to
conquer the world, particularly in view of the fact that England
controls nearly two thirds of the world. And Germany since 1933 has
never threatened English interests.

So when Chamberlain says that England wants to destroy Hitlerism in
this war, he is in one sense incorrect. But in another sense, he is
speaking the truth. England does want to destroy Hitlerism. It sees
Hitlerism as the present internal state of the Reich, which is a thorn
in the eye of English plutocracy.

England is a capitalist democracy. Germany is a socialist people's
state. And it is not the case that we think England is the richest
land on earth. There are lords and City men in England who are in fact
the richest men on earth. The broad masses, however, see little of
this wealth. We see in England an army of millions of impoverished,
socially enslaved and oppressed people. Child labor is still a matter
of course there. They have only heard about social welfare programs.
Parliament occasionally discusses social legislation. Nowhere else is
there such terrible and horrifying inequality as in the English slums.
Those with good breeding take no notice of it. Should anyone speak of
it in public, the press, which serves plutocratic democracy, quickly
brands him the worst kind of rascal. They do not hesitate from making
major changes in the Constitution if they are necessary to preserve
capitalist democracy.

Capitalism democracy suffers from every possible modern social
ailment. The Lords and City people can remain the richest people one
earth only because they constantly maintain their wealth by exploiting
their colonies and preserving unbelievable poverty in their own
country.

Germany, on the other hand, has based its domestic policies on new and
modern social principles. That is why it is a danger to English
plutocracy. It is also why English capitalists want to destroy
Hitlerism. They see Hitlerism as all the generous social reforms that
have occurred in Germany since 1933. The English plutocrats rightly
fear that good things are contagious, that they could endanger English
capitalism.
That is why England declared war on Germany. Since it was accustomed
to letting others fight its wars, it looked to the European continent
to find those ready to fight for England's interests. France was ready
to take on this degrading duty, since the same kind of people ruled
France. They too were ready for war out of egotistic reasons. Western
European democracy is really only a Western European plutocracy that
rules the world. It declared war on German socialism because it
endangered their capitalist interests.
A similar drama began in 1914. England had more luck during those four
and a half years than it is having today. Europe's nations had no
chance to see what was happening. The nations of Europe today have no
desire to play the same role they played during the World War. England
and France stand alone. Still, England is trying once again to wage
war without making any personal sacrifice. The goal is to blockade
Germany, to gradually bring it to submit by starvation. That is
longstanding English policy. They used it successfully in the
Napoleonic wars, and also during the World War. It would work now as
well, if the German people had not been educated by National
Socialism. National Socialism is immune to English temptations.
English propaganda lies no longer work in Germany. They have gradually
lost their effectiveness in the rest of the world as well, since
German propaganda today reaches far beyond its borders. This time,
English plutocracy will not succeed in driving a wedge between the
German people and their leadership, though that is their goal.

The German nation today is defending not only its honor and
independence, but also the great social accomplishments it has made
through hard and untiring work since 1933. It is a people's state
built on the foundation of justice and economic good sense. In the
past, England always had the advantage of facing a fragmented Germany.
It is only natural that English plutocracy today seeks to split the
German people and make it ripe for new collapse.

English lying propaganda can no longer name things by their proper
names. It therefore claims that it is not fighting the German people,
only Hitlerism. But we know this old song. In South Africa, England
was not fighting the Boers, only Krugerism. In the World War, England
wanted to destroy Kaiserism, not the German people. But that did not
stop English plutocracy from brutally and relentlessly suppressing the
Boers after that war or the Germans after our defeat.

A child once burned is twice shy. The German people were once victims
of lying English war propaganda. Now it understands the situation. It
has long understood the background of this war. It knows that behind
all English plutocratic capitalism's fine words, its aim is to destroy
Germany's social achievements. We are defending the socialism we have
build in Germany since 1933 with every military, economic and
spiritual means at our disposal. The bald English lies have no impact
on the German people.

English plutocracy is finally being forced to defend itself. In the
past, it always found other nations to fight for it. This time, the
English people must themselves risk their necks for the lords and City
men. They will meet a unified German people of workers, farmers and
soldiers who are prepared to defend their nation with every means at
their disposal.

We did not want war. England inflicted it on us. English plutocracy
forced it on us. England is responsible for the war, and it will have
to pay for it.

The whole world is waking up today. It can no longer be ruled by the
capitalist methods of the 19th Century. The peoples have matured. They
will one day deal a terrible blow to the capitalist plutocrats who are
the cause of their misery.

It is no accident that National Socialism has the historical task of
carrying out this reckoning. Plutocracy is collapsing intellectually,
spiritually, and in the not too distant future, militarily. We are
acting consistently with Nietzsche's words: "Give a shove to what is
falling."


http://www.ihr.org/ http://www.natvan.com

http://national-socialist-worldview.blogspot.com
Bible Studies with Satan
2012-01-18 18:41:46 UTC
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Post by Topaz
England's Guilt
by Joseph Goebbels
Nazi Germany had an attidude problem!
Post by Topaz
It is a major error to assume that England's plutocrats slipped into
the war against their will or even against their intentions. The
opposite is true. The English warmongers wanted the war and used all
the resources at their disposal over the years to bring it about. They
surely were not surprised by the war. English plutocracy had no goal
other than to unleash war against Germany at the right moment, and
this since Germany first began to seek once again to be a world power.
Poland really had little to do with the outbreak of war between the
Reich and England. It was only a means to an end. England did not
support the Polish government out of principle or for humanitarian
reasons. That is clear from the fact that England gave Poland no help
of any kind whatsoever when the war began. Nor did England take any
measures against Russia. The opposite, in fact. The London warring
clique to this day has tried to bring Russia into the campaign of
aggression against Germany.
The encirclement of Germany long before the outbreak of the war was
traditional English policy. From the beginning, England has always
directed its main military might against Germany. It never could
tolerate a strong Reich on the Continent. It justified its policy by
claiming that it wanted to maintain a balance of forces in Europe.
Today there is still another reason. The English warmongers conceal
it. It is crassly egotistic. The English prime minister announced the
day the war began that England's goal was to destroy Hitlerism.
However, he defined Hitlerism in a way other than how the English
plutocracy actually sees it. The English warmongers claim that
National Socialism wants to conquer the world. No nation is secure
against German aggression. An end must be made of the German hunger
for power. The limit came in the conflict with Poland. In reality,
however, there is another reason for England's war with Germany. The
English warmongers cannot seriously claim that Germany wants to
conquer the world, particularly in view of the fact that England
controls nearly two thirds of the world. And Germany since 1933 has
never threatened English interests.
So when Chamberlain says that England wants to destroy Hitlerism in
this war, he is in one sense incorrect. But in another sense, he is
speaking the truth. England does want to destroy Hitlerism. It sees
Hitlerism as the present internal state of the Reich, which is a thorn
in the eye of English plutocracy.
England is a capitalist democracy. Germany is a socialist people's
state. And it is not the case that we think England is the richest
land on earth. There are lords and City men in England who are in fact
the richest men on earth. The broad masses, however, see little of
this wealth. We see in England an army of millions of impoverished,
socially enslaved and oppressed people. Child labor is still a matter
of course there. They have only heard about social welfare programs.
Parliament occasionally discusses social legislation. Nowhere else is
there such terrible and horrifying inequality as in the English slums.
Those with good breeding take no notice of it. Should anyone speak of
it in public, the press, which serves plutocratic democracy, quickly
brands him the worst kind of rascal. They do not hesitate from making
major changes in the Constitution if they are necessary to preserve
capitalist democracy.
Capitalism democracy suffers from every possible modern social
ailment. The Lords and City people can remain the richest people one
earth only because they constantly maintain their wealth by exploiting
their colonies and preserving unbelievable poverty in their own
country.
Germany, on the other hand, has based its domestic policies on new and
modern social principles. That is why it is a danger to English
plutocracy. It is also why English capitalists want to destroy
Hitlerism. They see Hitlerism as all the generous social reforms that
have occurred in Germany since 1933. The English plutocrats rightly
fear that good things are contagious, that they could endanger English
capitalism.
That is why England declared war on Germany. Since it was accustomed
to letting others fight its wars, it looked to the European continent
to find those ready to fight for England's interests. France was ready
to take on this degrading duty, since the same kind of people ruled
France. They too were ready for war out of egotistic reasons. Western
European democracy is really only a Western European plutocracy that
rules the world. It declared war on German socialism because it
endangered their capitalist interests.
A similar drama began in 1914. England had more luck during those four
and a half years than it is having today. Europe's nations had no
chance to see what was happening. The nations of Europe today have no
desire to play the same role they played during the World War. England
and France stand alone. Still, England is trying once again to wage
war without making any personal sacrifice. The goal is to blockade
Germany, to gradually bring it to submit by starvation. That is
longstanding English policy. They used it successfully in the
Napoleonic wars, and also during the World War. It would work now as
well, if the German people had not been educated by National
Socialism. National Socialism is immune to English temptations.
English propaganda lies no longer work in Germany. They have gradually
lost their effectiveness in the rest of the world as well, since
German propaganda today reaches far beyond its borders. This time,
English plutocracy will not succeed in driving a wedge between the
German people and their leadership, though that is their goal.
The German nation today is defending not only its honor and
independence, but also the great social accomplishments it has made
through hard and untiring work since 1933. It is a people's state
built on the foundation of justice and economic good sense. In the
past, England always had the advantage of facing a fragmented Germany.
It is only natural that English plutocracy today seeks to split the
German people and make it ripe for new collapse.
English lying propaganda can no longer name things by their proper
names. It therefore claims that it is not fighting the German people,
only Hitlerism. But we know this old song. In South Africa, England
was not fighting the Boers, only Krugerism. In the World War, England
wanted to destroy Kaiserism, not the German people. But that did not
stop English plutocracy from brutally and relentlessly suppressing the
Boers after that war or the Germans after our defeat.
A child once burned is twice shy. The German people were once victims
of lying English war propaganda. Now it understands the situation. It
has long understood the background of this war. It knows that behind
all English plutocratic capitalism's fine words, its aim is to destroy
Germany's social achievements. We are defending the socialism we have
build in Germany since 1933 with every military, economic and
spiritual means at our disposal. The bald English lies have no impact
on the German people.
English plutocracy is finally being forced to defend itself. In the
past, it always found other nations to fight for it. This time, the
English people must themselves risk their necks for the lords and City
men. They will meet a unified German people of workers, farmers and
soldiers who are prepared to defend their nation with every means at
their disposal.
We did not want war. England inflicted it on us. English plutocracy
forced it on us. England is responsible for the war, and it will have
to pay for it.
The whole world is waking up today. It can no longer be ruled by the
capitalist methods of the 19th Century. The peoples have matured. They
will one day deal a terrible blow to the capitalist plutocrats who are
the cause of their misery.
It is no accident that National Socialism has the historical task of
carrying out this reckoning. Plutocracy is collapsing intellectually,
spiritually, and in the not too distant future, militarily. We are
acting consistently with Nietzsche's words: "Give a shove to what is
falling."
http://www.ihr.org/ http://www.natvan.com
http://national-socialist-worldview.blogspot.com
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Ezekiel 23:20
Kixi
2012-01-18 19:39:05 UTC
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Post by Bible Studies with Satan
Post by Topaz
England's Guilt
by Joseph Goebbels
Nazi Germany had an attidude problem!
Post by Topaz
It is a major error to assume that England's plutocrats slipped into
the war against their will or even against their intentions. The
opposite is true. The English warmongers wanted the war and used all
the resources at their disposal over the years to bring it about. They
surely were not surprised by the war. English plutocracy had no goal
other than to unleash war against Germany at the right moment, and
this since Germany first began to seek once again to be a world power.
Poland really had little to do with the outbreak of war between the
Reich and England. It was only a means to an end. England did not
support the Polish government out of principle or for humanitarian
reasons. That is clear from the fact that England gave Poland no help
of any kind whatsoever when the war began. Nor did England take any
measures against Russia. The opposite, in fact. The London warring
clique to this day has tried to bring Russia into the campaign of
aggression against Germany.
The encirclement of Germany long before the outbreak of the war was
traditional English policy. From the beginning, England has always
directed its main military might against Germany. It never could
tolerate a strong Reich on the Continent. It justified its policy by
claiming that it wanted to maintain a balance of forces in Europe.
Today there is still another reason. The English warmongers conceal
it. It is crassly egotistic. The English prime minister announced the
day the war began that England's goal was to destroy Hitlerism.
However, he defined Hitlerism in a way other than how the English
plutocracy actually sees it. The English warmongers claim that
National Socialism wants to conquer the world. No nation is secure
against German aggression. An end must be made of the German hunger
for power. The limit came in the conflict with Poland. In reality,
however, there is another reason for England's war with Germany. The
English warmongers cannot seriously claim that Germany wants to
conquer the world, particularly in view of the fact that England
controls nearly two thirds of the world. And Germany since 1933 has
never threatened English interests.
So when Chamberlain says that England wants to destroy Hitlerism in
this war, he is in one sense incorrect. But in another sense, he is
speaking the truth. England does want to destroy Hitlerism. It sees
Hitlerism as the present internal state of the Reich, which is a thorn
in the eye of English plutocracy.
England is a capitalist democracy. Germany is a socialist people's
state. And it is not the case that we think England is the richest
land on earth. There are lords and City men in England who are in fact
the richest men on earth. The broad masses, however, see little of
this wealth. We see in England an army of millions of impoverished,
socially enslaved and oppressed people. Child labor is still a matter
of course there. They have only heard about social welfare programs.
Parliament occasionally discusses social legislation. Nowhere else is
there such terrible and horrifying inequality as in the English slums.
Those with good breeding take no notice of it. Should anyone speak of
it in public, the press, which serves plutocratic democracy, quickly
brands him the worst kind of rascal. They do not hesitate from making
major changes in the Constitution if they are necessary to preserve
capitalist democracy.
Capitalism democracy suffers from every possible modern social
ailment. The Lords and City people can remain the richest people one
earth only because they constantly maintain their wealth by exploiting
their colonies and preserving unbelievable poverty in their own
country.
Germany, on the other hand, has based its domestic policies on new and
modern social principles. That is why it is a danger to English
plutocracy. It is also why English capitalists want to destroy
Hitlerism. They see Hitlerism as all the generous social reforms that
have occurred in Germany since 1933. The English plutocrats rightly
fear that good things are contagious, that they could endanger English
capitalism.
That is why England declared war on Germany. Since it was accustomed
to letting others fight its wars, it looked to the European continent
to find those ready to fight for England's interests. France was ready
to take on this degrading duty, since the same kind of people ruled
France. They too were ready for war out of egotistic reasons. Western
European democracy is really only a Western European plutocracy that
rules the world. It declared war on German socialism because it
endangered their capitalist interests.
A similar drama began in 1914. England had more luck during those four
and a half years than it is having today. Europe's nations had no
chance to see what was happening. The nations of Europe today have no
desire to play the same role they played during the World War. England
and France stand alone. Still, England is trying once again to wage
war without making any personal sacrifice. The goal is to blockade
Germany, to gradually bring it to submit by starvation. That is
longstanding English policy. They used it successfully in the
Napoleonic wars, and also during the World War. It would work now as
well, if the German people had not been educated by National
Socialism. National Socialism is immune to English temptations.
English propaganda lies no longer work in Germany. They have gradually
lost their effectiveness in the rest of the world as well, since
German propaganda today reaches far beyond its borders. This time,
English plutocracy will not succeed in driving a wedge between the
German people and their leadership, though that is their goal.
The German nation today is defending not only its honor and
independence, but also the great social accomplishments it has made
through hard and untiring work since 1933. It is a people's state
built on the foundation of justice and economic good sense. In the
past, England always had the advantage of facing a fragmented Germany.
It is only natural that English plutocracy today seeks to split the
German people and make it ripe for new collapse.
English lying propaganda can no longer name things by their proper
names. It therefore claims that it is not fighting the German people,
only Hitlerism. But we know this old song. In South Africa, England
was not fighting the Boers, only Krugerism. In the World War, England
wanted to destroy Kaiserism, not the German people. But that did not
stop English plutocracy from brutally and relentlessly suppressing the
Boers after that war or the Germans after our defeat.
A child once burned is twice shy. The German people were once victims
of lying English war propaganda. Now it understands the situation. It
has long understood the background of this war. It knows that behind
all English plutocratic capitalism's fine words, its aim is to destroy
Germany's social achievements. We are defending the socialism we have
build in Germany since 1933 with every military, economic and
spiritual means at our disposal. The bald English lies have no impact
on the German people.
English plutocracy is finally being forced to defend itself. In the
past, it always found other nations to fight for it. This time, the
English people must themselves risk their necks for the lords and City
men. They will meet a unified German people of workers, farmers and
soldiers who are prepared to defend their nation with every means at
their disposal.
We did not want war. England inflicted it on us. English plutocracy
forced it on us. England is responsible for the war, and it will have
to pay for it.
The whole world is waking up today. It can no longer be ruled by the
capitalist methods of the 19th Century. The peoples have matured. They
will one day deal a terrible blow to the capitalist plutocrats who are
the cause of their misery.
It is no accident that National Socialism has the historical task of
carrying out this reckoning. Plutocracy is collapsing intellectually,
spiritually, and in the not too distant future, militarily. We are
acting consistently with Nietzsche's words: "Give a shove to what is
falling."
http://www.ihr.org/   http://www.natvan.com
http://national-socialist-worldview.blogspot.com
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Ezekiel 23:20- Hide quoted text -
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The article posted by Topaz is sensible - English capitalists wanted
German socialism destroyed.

Isn't that the same reaction that western powers have adopted
regarding communist regimes?

American capitalists, in particular, have snuffed out many new
socialist regimes since WWII.
NEON China BLUE
2012-01-18 20:01:25 UTC
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Post by Kixi
The article posted by Topaz is sensible - English capitalists wanted
German socialism destroyed.
Kixi don't call that number:

http://www.history.com/images/media/slideshow/remembering-the-holocaust/numbers-t
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Kixi
2012-01-18 20:43:39 UTC
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Post by Kixi
The article posted by Topaz is sensible - English capitalists wanted
German socialism destroyed.
http://www.history.com/images/media/slideshow/remembering-the-holocau...
attoo.jpg
So NEON China BLUE <***@yahoo.com> employs one of the standard
diversionary tactics - switch the subject to that of the HoloHoax.
M.I. Wakefield
2012-01-18 21:53:00 UTC
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Post by Kixi
diversionary tactics - switch the subject to that of the HoloHoax.
You stop denying it, and it'll almost never come up at all.

I am now referring to the evacuation of the Jews, the extermination of the
Jewish people. It's one of those things that is easily said: 'The Jewish
people are being exterminated', says every party member, 'this is very
obvious, it's in our program, elimination of the Jews, extermination, we're
doing it, hah, a small matter.' [...] But of all those who talk this way,
none had observed it, none had endured it. Most of you here know what it
means when 100 corpses lie next to each other, when 500 lie there or when
1,000 are lined up. To have endured this and at the same time to have
remained a decent person - with exceptions due to human weaknesses - had
made us tough. This is a page of glory never mentioned and never to be
mentioned. [...] We have the moral right, we had the duty to our people to
do it, to kill this people who wanted to kill us.
- Heinrich Himmler, Posen Town Hall, October 4, 1943

I ask of you that that which I say to you in this circle be really only
heard and not ever discussed. We were faced with the question: what about
the women and children? – I decided to find a clear solution to this problem
too. I did not consider myself justified to exterminate the men - in other
words, to kill them or have them killed and allow the avengers of our sons
and grandsons in the form of their children to grow up. The difficult
decision had to be made to have this people disappear from the earth. For
the organisation which had to execute this task, it was the most difficult
which we had ever had. [...] I felt obliged to you, as the most superior
dignitary, as the most superior dignitary of the party, this political
order, this political instrument of the Führer, to also speak about this
question quite openly and to say how it has been. The Jewish question in the
countries that we occupy will be solved by the end of this year. Only
remainders of odd Jews that managed to find hiding places will be left over.
- Heinrich Himmler, Posen Town Hall, October 6, 1943
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Did he have any reason to question the accuracies of the Posen
speech?, asked Christie.

"[In] both speeches which I referred to," said Irving, "Heinrich
Himmler made startling admissions to his very select audience which
amounted to the fact that he was -- he had given orders personally not
only for the killing of certain Jewish men, but also for the killing
of certain Jewish women and children and he tried to justify what he
was doing, using, if I may say so, rather the same kind of language as
[Israeli Prime Minister] Mr. Shamir now uses in the West Bank, saying
that we have to carry out this task in order to be able to live in
security in future. This was the language that Himmler used and I
arrived at the very strange discovery when I looked at the transcript
of both those speeches that those two pages had been retyped at some
other date. I can't say whether it was retyped before or after the
bulk of the speech, but they had been typed by a different secretary
on a different typewriter using different carbon paper. Obviously you
only discover this if you look at the original documents which the
average historian is not patient enough to do. They had been retyped
and they had been repaginated in pencil at that point and I have to
say to preempt your question, I have no explanation why. It just
raises the fact that a document -- if a document has been retyped at a
key point, then I hold that document to be suspect." (33-9368, 9369)


Here is part of the Leuchter Report:
"Thirty-one samples were selectively removed from the alleged gas
chambers at Kremas I, II, III, IV and V. A control sample was taken
from delousing facility #1 at Birkenau. The control sample was removed
from a delousing chamber in a location where cyanide was known to have
been used and was apparently present as blue staining. Chemical
testing of the control sample #32 showed a cyanide content of 1050
mg/kg, a very heavy concentration. The conditions at areas from which
these samples were taken are identical with those of the control
sample, cold, dark, and wet. Only Kremas IV and V differed, in the
respect that these locations had sunlight (the buildings have been
torn down) and sunlight may hasten the destruction of uncomplexed
cyanide. The cyanide combines with the iron in the mortar and brick
and becomes ferric-ferro-cyanide or prussian blue pigmentation, a very
stable iron-cyanide complex.
"The locations from which the analyzed samples were removed are set
out in Table III.
"It is notable that almost all the samples were negative and that the
few that were positive were very close to the detection level
(1mg/kg); 6.7 mg/kg at Krema III; 7.9 mg/kg at Krerma I. The absense
of any consequential readings at any of the tested locations as
compared to the control sample reading 1050 mg/kg supports the
evidence that these facilities were not execution gas chambers. The
small quantities detected would indicate that at some point these
buildings were deloused with Zyklon B - as were all the buildings at
all these facilities"

http://www.ihr.org/ http://www.natvan.com

http://national-socialist-worldview.blogspot.com
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Nothing pisses kkkooky Kkkaren off more than someone attacking her neo-nazi
and anti-gay bigot friends.
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Nothing pisses kkkooky Kkkaren off more than someone attacking her neo-nazi and anti-gay
bigot friends.
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Nothing pisses kkkooky Kkkaren off more than someone attacking her
neo-nazi and anti-gay bigot friends.
Yep. Just another gay-bashing neo-nazi.
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Here is part of a speech by Dr. Joseph Goebbels, delivered in
Nuernberg on September 13th, 1935 at the Seventh National-Socialist
Party Congress:

"Almost without exception, the intellectual leaders of Marxist atheism
in Germany were Jews, among them being Erich Weinert, Felix Abraham,
Dr. Levy-Lenz and others. At regular meetings, held in the presence of
a notary public, members were requested to register their declaration
of withdrawal from their church for a fee of 2 Marks. And this the
fight for atheism was carried on. Between 1918 and 1933 the
withdrawals from the German Evangelical Churches alone amounted to
two-and-a-half million persons in Germany. The programme which these
atheistic societies laid down in regard to sexual matters is amply
charcterized in the following demands publicly expressed at meetings
and distributed in leaflet form:

1) The complete abrogation of the paragraphs of the law dealing with
the crime of abortion, and the right to have abortion procured free of
charge in State Hospitals.

2) Non-interference with prostitution.

3) The abrogation of all bourgeois-capitalistic regulations in regard
to marriage and divorce.

4) Official registration to be optional and the children to be
educated by the community.

5) Abrogation of all penalties for sexual perversities and amnesty to
be granted to all persons condemned as 'sexual criminals'.

"Truly a case of methodical insanity, which has for its aim the
wilful destruction of the nations and their civilization and the
substitute of barbarism as a fundamental principle of public life.

"Where are the men behind the scenes of this virulent world
movement? Who are the inventors of all this madness? Who transplanted
this ensemble into Russia and is today making the attempt to have it
prevail in other countries? The answer to these question discloses the
actual secret of our anti-Jewish policy and our uncomromising fight
against Jewry; for the Bolshevic International is in reality nothing
less than a Jewish International."

http://www.ihr.org/ http://www.natvan.com

http://national-socialist-worldview.blogspot.com
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Here is part of a speech by Dr. Joseph Goebbels, delivered in
Nuernberg on September 13th, 1935 at the Seventh National-Socialist
Party Congress:

"Almost without exception, the intellectual leaders of Marxist atheism
in Germany were Jews, among them being Erich Weinert, Felix Abraham,
Dr. Levy-Lenz and others. At regular meetings, held in the presence of
a notary public, members were requested to register their declaration
of withdrawal from their church for a fee of 2 Marks. And this the
fight for atheism was carried on. Between 1918 and 1933 the
withdrawals from the German Evangelical Churches alone amounted to
two-and-a-half million persons in Germany. The programme which these
atheistic societies laid down in regard to sexual matters is amply
charcterized in the following demands publicly expressed at meetings
and distributed in leaflet form:

1) The complete abrogation of the paragraphs of the law dealing with
the crime of abortion, and the right to have abortion procured free of
charge in State Hospitals.

2) Non-interference with prostitution.

3) The abrogation of all bourgeois-capitalistic regulations in regard
to marriage and divorce.

4) Official registration to be optional and the children to be
educated by the community.

5) Abrogation of all penalties for sexual perversities and amnesty to
be granted to all persons condemned as 'sexual criminals'.

"Truly a case of methodical insanity, which has for its aim the
wilful destruction of the nations and their civilization and the
substitute of barbarism as a fundamental principle of public life.

"Where are the men behind the scenes of this virulent world
movement? Who are the inventors of all this madness? Who transplanted
this ensemble into Russia and is today making the attempt to have it
prevail in other countries? The answer to these question discloses the
actual secret of our anti-Jewish policy and our uncomromising fight
against Jewry; for the Bolshevic International is in reality nothing
less than a Jewish International."

http://www.ihr.org/ http://www.natvan.com

http://national-socialist-worldview.blogspot.com
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2012-01-21 22:25:51 UTC
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Post by Topaz
Here is part of a speech by Dr. Joseph Goebbels, delivered in
Nuernberg on September 13th, 1935 at the Seventh National-Socialist
You obviously admire Goebbels. If you were in a White Nationalist
government his career seems to be the one you would most identify with.
But let me ask you this: What would you say about a man who would
defy a direct wartime order from your Fuhrer? What would you say about
a man who promised to follow Hitler's order, but lied to him? Wouldn't
you call such a man a coward? A traitor? A liar? Before Hitler shot
himself (also cowardly act), he made Goebbels Chancellor. He wanted
Goebbels to take over the fight. But this is what actually happened.

"The Führer has given orders for me, in case of a breakdown of defense
of the Capital of the Reich, to leave Berlin and to participate as a
leading member in a government appointed by him. For the first time in
my life, I must categorically refuse to obey a command of the Führer."

Instead he and his equally cowardly wife killed themselves and their
children. That is not what Hitler told him to do. We see when push
came to shove Goebbels was a lying traitorous coward. You talk a good
game, just like Goebbels did in all his propaganda writings, but when it
comes time to fight, I bet you would wilt just like he did.
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Post by Tim Howard
You obviously admire Goebbels. If you were in a White Nationalist
government his career seems to be the one you would most identify with.
But let me ask you this: What would you say about a man who would
defy a direct wartime order from your Fuhrer? What would you say about
a man who promised to follow Hitler's order, but lied to him?
Wouldn't
you call such a man a coward? A traitor? A liar? Before Hitler shot
himself (also cowardly act),
German leaders believed in death before dishonor. They knew the
allies were subhuman monsters:


Eyewitness account by Mrs. Leonora Geier (nee Cavoa, born Oct 22,
1925, Sao Paulo,
Brazil) to Dr. Trutz Foelsche, Ph.D

Deutsche Nationalzeitung, No. 17-65, p. 7:

"On the morning of February, 16, (1945) a Russian detachment
occupied the RAD (Reichsarbeitsdienst) camp Vilmsee near Neustettin.
The Commissar told me in good German language that the camp was
dissolved and that we, as a unit with uniforms (RAD - German Labour
Service, not military uniforms), would be transported to a collection
camp. Since I, as a Brazilian citizen, belong to an allied nation, he
asked me to take over as a leader of the transport that went to
Neustettin, into the yard of the former iron factory. We were about
500 girls (Maidens of the Reichsarbeitsdienst - German Labour
Service).

He said I could come into the orderly room, which I accepted.
Immediately he directed me to make no further contact with other
women, because they were members of an illegal army. On my response
that this what not true, he cut me off with the remark that I would be
shot immediately, if I would repeat in any form a similar statement.

"Suddenly I heard loud screams, and promptly five girls were brought
in by the two Red Armists. The Commissar ordered them to undress. When
they, in a sense of shame, refused to do so, he ordered me to undress
them and follow him with the girls. We walked through the yard to the
former factory kitchen, which was completely cleared out
except for some tables along the window wall. It was dreadfully cold
and the unfortunate girls trembled. In the huge tiled room several
Russians waited for us who were obviously making obscene remarks
because every word was followed by loud laughter.

The Commissar then directed me to watch how one makes sissies out of
'The Master Race'.

Now two Poles, clad in trousers only, entered the room. At their
sight the girls cried out.

Briskly, they seized the first of the two girls and bent her over with
her back over the edge of the table until her joints cracked. I almost
fainted when one of the men pulled his knife and cut off her right
breast in the presence of the other girls. I have never heard a
human being scream as desperately as this young woman. After this
'operation' both men stabbed her several times in the abdomen,
accompanied by the howling of the Russians.

The next girl cried for mercy, in vain, since she was exceptionally
pretty. I had the impression that the 'work' was carried out very
slowly. The other three girls were completely broken down, cried for
their mothers and begged for a speedy death, but also
fate them overtook.

The last of the girls was still half a child, with barely developed
breasts, one tore the flesh literally from her ribs until the white
bone appeared.

Again, five girls were brought in. This time, they had been selected
carefully. All were developed and pretty. When they saw the bodies of
their predecessors, they began to cry and scream. Weak as they were,
they tried to defend themselves but to no avail; the Poles became more
cruel every time. One of the girls, they cut open her womb and trunk
over the whole length; poured a can of machine oil into the mutilated
body and tried to set fire to it. Another was shot in the genitals by
a Russia, before they cut off her breasts.

A great howling began when someone brought a saw from a toolbox.
Now, using the saw, they set to work to the breasts of the girls to
pieces, which in a short period of time led to the floor being covered
with blood. A blood rage seized the Russians. Continuously
one of them brought more and more girls.

Like a red fog, I saw the gruesome happenings again and again and I
perceived the inhuman screaming at the torture of their breasts and
the load groaning at the mutilation of their private parts. When my
legs failed me I was forced into a chair. The Commissar persistently
watched me to make sure I was looking toward the torture scenes. In
fact, when I had to vomit, they even paused with their tortures. One
girl had not undressed completely, she may have been somewhat older
than the rest of the girls who were about 17-years old. One of the
torturers soaked her bra with oil and ignited it and, while she cried
out, another drove a thin iron rod into her vagina until it emerged at
her naval.

In the yard they liquidated entire groups of girls, after they had
selected the prettiest ones for the torture room. The air was filled
with the death cries of many hundreds of girls. But in view of what
happened here, the slaughter outside could be considered more humane.
It was a dreadful fact that not one of the girls brought into the
torture room lost here consciousness.

In their horror all were equal in their expressions. It was always
the same; the begging for mercy, the high-pitched scream when their
breasts were cut and their genitals mutilated. Several times the
slaughter was interrupted to sweep out the blood and to clear away the
corpses.

That evening I sank into a severe nerve fever. From then on I lack
any recollection until the moment I awoke in a military hospital.
German troops had recaptured Neustettin temporarily, and had liberated
us. As I learned later, approximately 2,000 girls were murdered during
the first three days of the first round of Russian occupation."
Post by Tim Howard
he made Goebbels Chancellor. He wanted
Goebbels to take over the fight. But this is what actually happened.
"The Führer has given orders for me, in case of a breakdown of defense
of the Capital of the Reich, to leave Berlin and to participate as a
leading member in a government appointed by him. For the first time in
my life, I must categorically refuse to obey a command of the Führer."
Instead he and his equally cowardly wife killed themselves and their
children.
German leaders believed in death before dishonor. They knew the allies
were subhuman monsters:


The Diaries of Charles A. Lindbergh, p.986

"That young girl riding on her bicycle - she must know that on the
day the Russians come she will probably be raped by a dozen soldiers.
When do they come? In days? In weeks? That, we have not told the
Germans. She has a good face - nicely dressed in old but clean and
brightly colored garments - like the daughter of a middle class
American family. I realize that we Americans are holding her at
Dessau. She cannot flee to safety. We will not let her pass our
sentries on the roads. We are turning her and thousands of
others like her over to the Soviet soldiers for their sport. I feel
ashamed."

p.961
"German children look in through the window. We have more food than
we need, but regulations prevent giving it to them. It is difficult to
look at them. I feel ashamed of myself, of my people, as I eat and
watch those children. They are not to blame for the war. They are
hungry children. What right have we to stuff ourselves while they look
on - well-fed men eating, leaving unwanted food on plates, while
hungry children look on."

Berlin Correspondent, The Times, September 10th, 1945

"...Another small boy turned out of Danzig had a scrawled postcard
attached to him stating that his soldier father was long since missing
and that his mother and two sisters had died of hunger."

At this time, Denmark, formerly occupied by the Germans as a means
of denying the allies a North Sea bridgehead was bursting at the seams
with surplus food and was pleading with the allies to put it to good
use. It was refused.
Post by Tim Howard
That is not what Hitler told him to do.
He never would have made it out of Berlin.
Post by Tim Howard
We see when push
came to shove Goebbels was a lying traitorous coward. You talk a good
game, just like Goebbels did in all his propaganda writings,
Here are parts of a speech by Dr. Joseph Goebbels, delivered in
Nuernberg in 1934. The ending of this speech is in the film Triumph of
the Will.

"It is difficult to define the concept of propaganda thoroughly and
precisely. This is especially true since in past decades it was
subject to unfavorable definitions, particularly as the enemy defined
it with regards to us Germans. First, then, we must defend it. Those
abroad sometimes claim that in the past we Germans were particularly
good in this area, but that unfortunately is not consistent with the
facts. We learned this all too clearly during the World War. While the
enemy states produced unprecedented atrocity propaganda aimed at
Germany throughout the whole world, we did nothing and were completely
defenseless against it. Only when enemy foreign propaganda had nearly
won over the greater part of the neutral states did the German
government begin to sense the enormous power of propaganda. It was too
late. Just as we were militarily and economically unprepared for the
war, so too with propaganda. We lost the war in this area more than in
any other.

The cleverest trick used in propaganda against Germany during the war
was to accuse Germany of what our enemies themselves were doing. Even
today large parts of world opinion are convinced that the typical
characteristics of German propaganda are lying, crudeness, reversing
the facts and the like. One needs only to remember the stories that
were spread throughout the world at the beginning of the war about
German soldiers chopping off children's hands and crucifying women to
realize that Germany then was a defenseless victim of this campaign of
calumny. It neither had nor used any means of defense.

The concept of propaganda has undergone a fundamental transformation,
particularly as the result of political practice in Germany.
Throughout the world today, people are beginning to see that a modern
state, whether democratic or authoritarian, cannot withstand the
subterranean forces of anarchy and chaos without propaganda. It is not
only a matter of doing the right thing; the people must understand
that the right thing is the right thing. Propaganda includes
everything that helps the people to realize this.

Political propaganda in principle is active and revolutionary. It is
aimed at the broad masses. It speaks the language of the people
because it wants to be understood by the people. Its task is the
highest creative art of putting sometimes complicated events and facts
in a way simple enough to be understood by the man on the street. Its
foundation is that there is nothing the people cannot understand,
rather things must be put in a way that they can understand. It is a
question of making it clear to him by using the proper approach,
evidence and language.

Propaganda is a means to an end. Its purpose is to lead the people to
an understanding that will allow them to willingly and without
internal resistance devote themselves to the tasks and goals of a
superior leadership. If propaganda is to succeed, it must know what it
wants. It must keep a clear and firm goal in mind, and seek the
appropriate means and methods to reach that goal. Propaganda as such
is neither good nor evil. Its moral value is determined by the goals
it seeks."

"Each propaganda had a direction. The quality of this direction
determines whether propaganda has a positive or negative effect. Good
propaganda does not need to lie, indeed it may not lie. It has no
reason to fear the truth. It is a mistake to believe that people
cannot take the truth. They can. It is only a matter of presenting the
truth to people in a way that they will be able to understand. A
propaganda that lies proves that it has a bad cause. It cannot be
successful in the long run. A good propaganda will always come along
that serves a good cause. But propaganda is still necessary if a good
cause is to succeed. A good idea does not win simply because it is
good. It must be presented properly if it is to win. But a good idea
is itself the best propaganda. Such propaganda is successful without
being obnoxious. It depends on its nature, not its methods. It works
without being noticed. Its goals are inherent in its nature. Since it
is almost invisible, it is effective and powerful. A good cause will
lose to a bad one if it depends only on its rightness, while the other
side uses the methods of influencing the masses. We are for example
convinced that we fought the war for a good cause, but that was not
enough. The world should also have known that our cause was good.
However, we lacked the effective means of mass propaganda to make that
clear to the world. Marxism certainly did not fight for great ideals.
Despite that, in November 1918 it overcame Kaiser, Reich and the army
because it was superior in the art of mass propaganda.

National Socialism learned from these two examples. It drew the
correct practical conclusions from that knowledge. The ideal of a
socialist national community did not remain mere theory with us, but
became living reality in the thoughts and feelings of 67 million
Germans. Our propaganda of word and deed created the conditions for
that. Mastering them kept National Socialism from the danger of
remaining the dream and longing of a few thousand. Through propaganda,
it became hard, steely everyday reality."

"Marxism could not be eliminated by a government decision. Its
elimination was the end result of a process that began in the people.
But that was only possible because our propaganda had shown people
that Marxism was a danger to both the state and society. The positive
national discipline of the German press would never have been possible
without the compete elimination of the influence of the liberal-Jewish
press. That happened only because of the years-long work of our
propaganda. Today particularism in Germany is something of the past.
The fact that it was eliminated by a strong central idea of the Reich
is no accident, rather depended on psychological foundations that were
established by our propaganda.

Or consider economic policy. Does anyone believe that the idea of
class struggle could have been eliminated only by a law? Is it not
rather the fact that the seeds we sowed in a hundred thousand meetings
resulted in a new socialist structure of labor? Today employers and
workers stand together in the Labor Front. The Law on National Labor
is the foundation of our economic thinking, realizing itself more and
more. Are not these social achievements the result of the long and
tireless labor of thousands of speakers?"

"We could eliminate the Jewish danger in our culture because the
people had recognized it as the result of our propaganda. Major
cultural achievements such as the unique "Kraft durch Freude" are
possible only with the powerful support of the people. The
prerequisite was and is propaganda, which here too creates and
maintains the connection to the people.

The Winter Relief last year raised about 350 million Marks. This was
not the result of taxation, rather many gifts of every amount.
Everyone gave freely and gladly, many of whom in the past had done
nothing in the face of similar need. Why? Because a broad propaganda
using every modern means presented the whole nation with the need of
this program of social assistance.

45 million Reich Marks of goods and services were provided. 85 million
Reich Marks worth of fuel were distributed. 130 million Reich Marks
worth of food were given out. Ten million Reich Marks worth of meals
were provided, and 70 million Reich Marks worth of clothing.

Some of these achievements were the result of donations in kind,
others the result of cash donations. Street collections, donations of
a part of paychecks, contributions from companies, and gifts
subtracted from bank accounts resulted in cash totaling 184 million
Reich Marks. 24 million marks alone were the result of "One Dish
Sundays." The Reich itself added 15 million marks to the
contributions of the people. The railway system provided reduced or
free shipping with a value of 14 million Marks.

Of our population of 65,595,000, 16,511,00 were assisted by the Winter
Relief. There were 150,000 volunteers. There were only 4,474 paid
workers, of whom 4,144 were in the 34 Gaue and 330 in the Reich
headquarters.

Propaganda and education prepared the way for the largest social
assistance program in history. They were the foundation. Their success
was that, over a long winter, no one in Germany went hungry or was
cold.

Over 40 million people approved of the Fuehrer's decision to leave the
League of Nations on 12 November 1933. That gave him the ability to
speak to the world in the name of the nation, defending honor, peace
and equality as the national ideals of the German people. The issues
of disarmament were put on firm and clear foundations. Once again,
propaganda was the foundation for the nation's unity on 12 November,
and therefore of the freedom of action that the Fuehrer had.

Each situation brings new challenges. And each task requires the
support of the people, which can only be gained by untiring propaganda
that brings the broad masses knowledge and clarity. No area of public
life can do without it. It is the never resting force behind public
opinion. It must maintain an unbroken relationship between leadership
and people. Every means of technology must be put in its service; the
goal is to form the mass will and to give it meaning, purpose and
goals that will enable us to learn from past failures and mistakes and
ensure that the lead National Socialist strength has given us over
other nations will never again be lost.

May the bright flame of our enthusiasm never fade. It alone gives
light and warmth to the creative art of modern political propaganda.
Its roots are in the people. The movement gives it direction and
drive. The state can only provide it with the new, wide-ranging
technical means. Only a living relationship between people, movement
and state can guarantee that the creative art of propaganda, which we
have made ourselves the world's master, will never sink into
bureaucracy and official narrow-mindedness.

Creative people made it and put it in the service of our movement. We
must have creative people who can use the means of the state in its
service.

It is also a function of the modern state. Its reach is the firm
ground on which it must stand. It rises from the depths of the people,
and must always return to the people to find its roots and strength.
It may be good to have power based on weapons. It is better and longer
lasting, however, to win and hold the heart of a nation."
Post by Tim Howard
but when it
comes time to fight, I bet you would wilt just like he did.
German leaders believed in death before dishonor. They knew the
allies were subhuman monsters:


Sudeten German Inferno
The hushed-up tragedy of the ethnic Germans in
Czechoslovakia
Ingomar Pust
"Cesarean Section", Czech-Style
ohanna Huber continues:

"But the most gruesome death of all was reserved for my pregnant
neighbor, Frau Kosnarsch. Her amputee husband (he had lost a leg),
both her parents, and her daughter were brutally beaten to death in
the house. The pregnant woman's stomach had been trampled or cut open;
it was one huge, gruesome, horrible, dreadful wound. The umbilical
cord was wrapped around the dead woman's throat, and the unborn baby's
brains were splattered over the wall.

"On our estate lived 80-year-old Anna Preis. A partisan smashed her
glasses with a club in such a way that the glass shards cut her eyes.
The blinded woman hanged herself in despair a few days later.
"Suicide was the only way out for many people in those days. Today we
know that there was a huge wave of German suicides throughout all of
Czechoslovakia. We too searched the barn, in vain, for some ergot with
which to poison ourselves. The pharmacist Pfeifer, a half-Jew who had
been horribly abused, advised us to take razor blades and slit our
wrists to escape all the horror, he said that this was the least
painful death. What luck that we couldn't find any razor blades. Fate
spared our lives, even if we did lose everything that the hard work of
generations had wrought."

In May and June the wave of suicides that struck many towns and
villages of the Sudetenland claimed the lives of older people in
particular. By law the Germans no longer had any rights whatsoever. If
they even had a home left at all, they were forced to keep it open to
plunderers at all times. They had to hand in all their valuables, from
jewelry to cameras.

Germans were forbidden to use public transit. They were forbidden to
leave their homes, except on orders or at specific times.
Letter-writing was also forbidden, as was entering a public inn, a
train station or a post office. They usually received no ration cards
at all, and if they did, these included no stamps for meat, eggs,
milk, cheese or fruit - which meant the death sentence for many
children.

Insofar as they were not already locked up in the concentration camps,
the Germans were obligated to forced labor without pay. In many
places, the people were ordered to assemble at certain locations,
whence they were transported off as labor slaves to work in
agriculture, mining or industry. The German clergy was also not spared
the orgy of hate.

Cistercian abbot Eberhard Harzer of Ossegg recounts:
"At every other step on my return to the cell I had to step over a
dead or half-dead person. Back in the barracks I heard the old German
men of Maria-Ratschitz being shot down behind the barracks wall. They
included almost all the old Christian-Socialist party members. The
women were beaten horribly, to the point where they could barely see
through the swelling. All women had been raped, and many had severe
internal injuries and were infected with syphilis.

"When the 'Svobodici' could rape no more, they resorted to bottle
necks with which they continued torturing the women. When I left this
camp in October, many of these women were still lying badly injured in
the sick-rooms."

The abbot had been repeatedly arrested, abused and released again.
On November 29, 1945, he writes, "I was arrested again and taken to
the concentration camp in Dux. There were some fellow-prisoners there
who had endured that terrible day in Bilin. Men and women from the
environs of Bilin were herded together in the market square where they
had to strip naked and then had to march single-file past the Czech
population, who beat them with whips and canes. After that, the men in
particular had to crawl in a row on all fours like dogs, and were
beaten until they lost control over their bowels. The ones behind then
had to lick it off the ones in front of them. This torture continued
until many had been beaten to death; the priest of Radowesitz was
among these. What was done to the women there is simply beyond
description - the sadistic monstrosity of it all is too much."

Father lay in the Pile of Corpses he women suffered terrible things in
those days. Frau Hermine Weissmann of Klagenfurt recounts:
Hermine Weissmann:

"To this day the memories make me tremble." "My experiences still
weigh on my mind so much that I start to tremble whenever I so much as
speak about them. I was 17 years old at the time - at that age a
person retains things very vividly. I am from Southern Moravia. My
home town, Schaffa, is one kilometer away from the Austrian border. In
our town there were never any Czechs - only servants - and then the
gendarmerie.

"On May 5, 1945 the Czechs came to get my father. He wasn't even given
enough time to put his shoes on. They beat him half-unconscious and
dragged him to a truck and threw him up like an animal - we were
paralyzed with horror.

"On May 13 we were taken to a forest clearing near Stallek. Even from
afar we could already smell the stench of decomposing bodies. We were
forced to search through the mountain of corpses for our missing
relatives. I don't know how many dead bodies lay there, swollen and
distended by the heat. All of them lay face-down, and all wore the
identifying armband 'Nemecky'. All of them had been murdered via a
bullet in the neck. We recognized them by their clothes - it was truly
hell. We were 'generously' permitted to take our dead home, at night
and in a box that stood ready.

"Meanwhile the other men of the town had also been apprehended, and
for two days and nights they were crowded together without food in the
basement of the local school, which was flooded chest-high with water.
Then they were flogged there with whips to whose ends iron nuts had
been tied, and whoever passed out, drowned.

"Later the survivors were taken into the interior of Czechoslovakia.
Many never returned - and for those who did, it was not until 1946,
and they were broken men. My uncles Lambert Koller and Johann Mang
were among them. When the Czechs went on the rampage among those of us
who remained in the town, we went for help from the Russians, who were
stationed in Riegersburg, Austria, three kilometers away.

"On June 4, 1945, Czechs with guns at the ready took my family and me
to the Austrian border and expelled us. We were allowed to take 50
pounds of luggage, and even that was ultimately taken from us at the
border."

Frau Sylvia Schlosser, Vienna:

Sylvia Schlosser
"We saw dreadful, inconceivable cruelties in the camp. Often we heard
the screams of the tortured people all day and night long. We
children were also beaten. I lost my father, a physician, to a
horrible fate.

From my uncle, who was in a camp in Moravian Ostrau together with my
father, I learned that my father, who had had to work in the coal
pits, was killed most brutally. He and other men had to stand in front
of a coal cart that held red-hot coal, and guards poured that over the
German men. The charred corpses were then thrown into a mass grave.
Our family physician from Moravian Ostrau was hanged, his mother, more
than 80 years old, was torn to pieces on a market square by tying her
legs to two horses. Many innocent people shared that same fate.

"When I remember this horrible time after the war in that country, I
do also recall a Czech woman who risked her own life to take
some food to her former employer in the Czech concentration camp, and
recall the young Czech woman who got me out of the camp for a few
weeks by persuading the Czech camp guard that she needed someone to
help her with her six-month-old baby. I was not quite ten years old at
that time. The woman gave me something to eat, and that was certainly
not the least reason why I survived."

Frau Therese Stonner-Ther from Bad Groß-Ullersdorf:

"In June 1945 my sister, Gertrud Guntermann, was found badly wounded
in her home in Moravian Schönberg. One of her neighbors hurried to the
nearest doctor and asked for help. The doctor brusquely refused any
and all aid, and said, 'A German can bloody well die!' And so my
42-year-old sister died without even so much as a minimum of medical
attention and was thrown into a pit outside the cemetery together with
many other murdered Germans. My father wanted to at least buy a
coffin, but that was forbidden. Similarly, the new Czech owners of my
father's drugstore would not even allow my mother to pick some flowers
from the garden that had used to be ours, to take to my poor dead
sister's grave.

I would like to add that my sister had never been politically active
in any way."

The Russians as Life-Savers rau Josefine Waimann left a large estate
behind in Czechoslovakia. The scenes of horror that she witnessed in
Masaryk Stadium in Prague are stamped indelibly on her memory.
Josefine Waimann:

Masaryk Stadium was an inferno.

"Already in late April we fled from the Russians, to the Americans, in
the direction of Pilsen," reports Frau Waimann, who today lives in
Klagenfurt. "But the Americans handed us over to the Russians by the
thousands, and the Russians then directed our refugee columns towards
Prague.

"But the Soviets did protect us from the attacks of the Czechs.
Without their escort we would have been beaten to death on the way,
before we even reached Prague. In this respect the Russians made short
work of the Czechs. In Königswiese near Prague I saw a Czech beating a
German lieutenant. When the latter tried to defend himself, the Czech
shot him.

A Russian saw that, pulled out his pistol and gunned the Czech down
without a word.

"Still under Russian guard, we were herded through the raging
pandemonium of Prague, in whose streets horribly mutilated bodies of
German privates hung from the street lamp posts everywhere, and on
into Masaryk Stadium. There, we were caught up by the Czech murder
machine.

"Words fail me to describe what took place in the first few days in
that stadium, where by and by 40,000 Germans were crammed together,
without water, almost entirely without food. Men, women, children and
soldiers.

My little children cried for hunger. "Before our eyes there began a
sadistic revenge against SS-men and 'incriminated' persons, who were
tortured to death in every way imaginable. I most vividly remember a
young pregnant woman; young Czechs in uniform slit her belly open,
tore out the embryo and, howling with glee, stuffed a dachshund into
the torn body of the woman, who was screaming horribly. We huddled in
the grandstands. The butchering in the arena before our eyes was like
that in ancient Rome.

"Constantly, groups of privates who had been discovered to be marked
with the SS-rune were liquidated in the most horrible fashion, first
they were flogged, then beaten with clubs, and finally shot. They
were only ever shot after protracted torture. The screams of the
agonized victims who were being skinned alive went right through us.
And thousands of children had to watch all this. How many of them must
have been psychologically traumatized for life! Among the doomed I saw
many very young fellows, they could not yet have been 17 years old.
They must have been just drafted. Now these poor boys were caught by
the merciless torture of this murder machine. The bodies were dumped
in deep trenches.

Insofar as there was enough space, many were thrown into the latrines
of the enormous stadium, and we had to relieve ourselves over the
bodies - but it was only water and mucus anyhow.

"Added to the horrors of this camp were the dreadful screams that
carried over to us from the city proper. A rash of suicides began,
with people slitting their wrists. At night the Czechs let hundreds of
drunk Russians into the stadium, probably for bribe money. They raped
the German women right beside their children. It was truly hell,
Masaryk Stadium was.

"However, after a few days this mass butchery came to be too much even
for the Russians. A Soviet General intervened. He announced via
loudspeakers that there was to be an end to all the raping. If his
soldiers should come at night to get women, all of us should scream so
the guards could hear us, he instructed. And that is what we did.
"At Whitsun 1945 I was separated from my husband and children and my
nieces and nephews, who died in the stadium, and was deported to
forced labor in Semcice. We had to work hard there, but the Czechs in
the rural areas proved to be more humane than their urban brothers.
German children died by the hundreds in a camp nearby. A Russian
soldier from the Crimea plundered food from the farmers at submachine
gunpoint and brought the provisions to us in his backpack until he was
reported for his activities.

"And again I had a Russian to thank for saving my life, later on in
Bunzlau, when a pack of Czech women beat me up. They might have beaten
me to death if a Russian officer had not saved me.

In this camp there was a priest from Linz, a true saint, who lifted
us up and also helped us flee. In Schandau in the Eastern Zone we wept
for joy at having escaped from hell.

The inhabitants told us that the bodies of dead Germans floating down
the Elbe River had been an everyday sight for weeks." Sudeten German
Inferno The hushed-up tragedy of the ethnic Germans in Czechoslovakia


http://www.ihr.org/ http://www.natvan.com

http://national-socialist-worldview.blogspot.com
Tim Howard
2012-01-22 22:27:47 UTC
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Post by Topaz
On Sat, 21 Jan 2012 14:25:51 -0800, Tim Howard
Post by Tim Howard
You obviously admire Goebbels. If you were in a White Nationalist
government his career seems to be the one you would most identify with.
But let me ask you this: What would you say about a man who would
defy a direct wartime order from your Fuhrer? What would you say about
a man who promised to follow Hitler's order, but lied to him?
Wouldn't
you call such a man a coward? A traitor? A liar? Before Hitler shot
himself (also cowardly act),
German leaders believed in death before dishonor. They knew the
There is nothing honorable about killing all of your children. I bet
they did not know they were going to be poisoned. I bet they did not
want to die. The allies would not have harmed Goebbels's wife or children.

BTW I see you did not answer my personal email. Just as I figured.
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Topaz
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Post by Tim Howard
There is nothing honorable about killing all of your children.
People did that when they were about to be captured by Indians and
others knows to torture.

German leaders believed in death before dishonor. They knew the allies
were subhuman monsters:


Eyewitness account by Mrs. Leonora Geier (nee Cavoa, born Oct 22,
1925, Sao Paulo,
Brazil) to Dr. Trutz Foelsche, Ph.D

Deutsche Nationalzeitung, No. 17-65, p. 7:

"On the morning of February, 16, (1945) a Russian detachment
occupied the RAD (Reichsarbeitsdienst) camp Vilmsee near Neustettin.
The Commissar told me in good German language that the camp was
dissolved and that we, as a unit with uniforms (RAD - German Labour
Service, not military uniforms), would be transported to a collection
camp. Since I, as a Brazilian citizen, belong to an allied nation, he
asked me to take over as a leader of the transport that went to
Neustettin, into the yard of the former iron factory. We were about
500 girls (Maidens of the Reichsarbeitsdienst - German Labour
Service).

He said I could come into the orderly room, which I accepted.
Immediately he directed me to make no further contact with other
women, because they were members of an illegal army. On my response
that this what not true, he cut me off with the remark that I would be
shot immediately, if I would repeat in any form a similar statement.

"Suddenly I heard loud screams, and promptly five girls were brought
in by the two Red Armists. The Commissar ordered them to undress. When
they, in a sense of shame, refused to do so, he ordered me to undress
them and follow him with the girls. We walked through the yard to the
former factory kitchen, which was completely cleared out
except for some tables along the window wall. It was dreadfully cold
and the unfortunate girls trembled. In the huge tiled room several
Russians waited for us who were obviously making obscene remarks
because every word was followed by loud laughter.

The Commissar then directed me to watch how one makes sissies out of
'The Master Race'.

Now two Poles, clad in trousers only, entered the room. At their
sight the girls cried out.

Briskly, they seized the first of the two girls and bent her over with
her back over the edge of the table until her joints cracked. I almost
fainted when one of the men pulled his knife and cut off her right
breast in the presence of the other girls. I have never heard a
human being scream as desperately as this young woman. After this
'operation' both men stabbed her several times in the abdomen,
accompanied by the howling of the Russians.

The next girl cried for mercy, in vain, since she was exceptionally
pretty. I had the impression that the 'work' was carried out very
slowly. The other three girls were completely broken down, cried for
their mothers and begged for a speedy death, but also
fate them overtook.

The last of the girls was still half a child, with barely developed
breasts, one tore the flesh literally from her ribs until the white
bone appeared.

Again, five girls were brought in. This time, they had been selected
carefully. All were developed and pretty. When they saw the bodies of
their predecessors, they began to cry and scream. Weak as they were,
they tried to defend themselves but to no avail; the Poles became more
cruel every time. One of the girls, they cut open her womb and trunk
over the whole length; poured a can of machine oil into the mutilated
body and tried to set fire to it. Another was shot in the genitals by
a Russia, before they cut off her breasts.

A great howling began when someone brought a saw from a toolbox.
Now, using the saw, they set to work to the breasts of the girls to
pieces, which in a short period of time led to the floor being covered
with blood. A blood rage seized the Russians. Continuously
one of them brought more and more girls.

Like a red fog, I saw the gruesome happenings again and again and I
perceived the inhuman screaming at the torture of their breasts and
the load groaning at the mutilation of their private parts. When my
legs failed me I was forced into a chair. The Commissar persistently
watched me to make sure I was looking toward the torture scenes. In
fact, when I had to vomit, they even paused with their tortures. One
girl had not undressed completely, she may have been somewhat older
than the rest of the girls who were about 17-years old. One of the
torturers soaked her bra with oil and ignited it and, while she cried
out, another drove a thin iron rod into her vagina until it emerged at
her naval.

In the yard they liquidated entire groups of girls, after they had
selected the prettiest ones for the torture room. The air was filled
with the death cries of many hundreds of girls. But in view of what
happened here, the slaughter outside could be considered more humane.
It was a dreadful fact that not one of the girls brought into the
torture room lost here consciousness.

In their horror all were equal in their expressions. It was always
the same; the begging for mercy, the high-pitched scream when their
breasts were cut and their genitals mutilated. Several times the
slaughter was interrupted to sweep out the blood and to clear away the
corpses.

That evening I sank into a severe nerve fever. From then on I lack
any recollection until the moment I awoke in a military hospital.
German troops had recaptured Neustettin temporarily, and had liberated
us. As I learned later, approximately 2,000 girls were murdered during
the first three days of the first round of Russian occupation."
Post by Tim Howard
I bet
they did not know they were going to be poisoned. I bet they did not
want to die. The allies would not have harmed Goebbels's wife or children.
The Diaries of Charles A. Lindbergh, p.986

"That young girl riding on her bicycle - she must know that on the
day the Russians come she will probably be raped by a dozen soldiers.
When do they come? In days? In weeks? That, we have not told the
Germans. She has a good face - nicely dressed in old but clean and
brightly colored garments - like the daughter of a middle class
American family. I realize that we Americans are holding her at
Dessau. She cannot flee to safety. We will not let her pass our
sentries on the roads. We are turning her and thousands of
others like her over to the Soviet soldiers for their sport. I feel
ashamed."

p.961
"German children look in through the window. We have more food than
we need, but regulations prevent giving it to them. It is difficult to
look at them. I feel ashamed of myself, of my people, as I eat and
watch those children. They are not to blame for the war. They are
hungry children. What right have we to stuff ourselves while they look
on - well-fed men eating, leaving unwanted food on plates, while
hungry children look on."

Berlin Correspondent, The Times, September 10th, 1945

"...Another small boy turned out of Danzig had a scrawled postcard
attached to him stating that his soldier father was long since missing
and that his mother and two sisters had died of hunger."

At this time, Denmark, formerly occupied by the Germans as a means
of denying the allies a North Sea bridgehead was bursting at the seams
with surplus food and was pleading with the allies to put it to good
use. It was refused.
Post by Tim Howard
BTW I see you did not answer my personal email. Just as I figured.
Correct


http://www.ihr.org/ http://www.natvan.com

http://national-socialist-worldview.blogspot.com
Walter Fishburne
2012-01-21 23:49:05 UTC
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       Here is part of a speech by Dr. Joseph Goebbels, delivered in
Nuernberg on September 13th, 1935 at the Seventh National-Socialist
You obviously admire Goebbels.  If you were in a White Nationalist
government his career seems to be the one you would most identify with.
  But let me ask you this:  What would you say about a man who would
defy a direct wartime order from your Fuhrer?  What would you say about
a man who promised to follow Hitler's order, but lied to him?  Wouldn't
you call such a man a coward?  A traitor?  A liar?  Before Hitler shot
himself (also cowardly act), he made Goebbels Chancellor.  He wanted
Goebbels to take over the fight.  But this is what actually happened.
"The Führer has given orders for me, in case of a breakdown of defense
of the Capital of the Reich, to leave Berlin and to participate as a
leading member in a government appointed by him. For the first time in
my life, I must categorically refuse to obey a command of the Führer."
Instead he and his equally cowardly wife killed themselves and their
children.  That is not what Hitler told him to do.  We see when push
came to shove Goebbels was a lying traitorous coward.  You talk a good
game, just like Goebbels did in all his propaganda writings, but when it
comes time to fight, I bet you would wilt just like he did.
Hey! Jerk! Goebbels only fault was how he didn't copyright "Fair and
Balanced" when providing information.

Fortunately, Australia's Rupert Murdoch picked up the slack.
Topaz
2012-01-22 12:08:58 UTC
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Here are parts of a speech by Dr. Joseph Goebbels, delivered in
Nuernberg in 1934. The ending of this speech is in the film Triumph of
the Will.

"It is difficult to define the concept of propaganda thoroughly and
precisely. This is especially true since in past decades it was
subject to unfavorable definitions, particularly as the enemy defined
it with regards to us Germans. First, then, we must defend it. Those
abroad sometimes claim that in the past we Germans were particularly
good in this area, but that unfortunately is not consistent with the
facts. We learned this all too clearly during the World War. While the
enemy states produced unprecedented atrocity propaganda aimed at
Germany throughout the whole world, we did nothing and were completely
defenseless against it. Only when enemy foreign propaganda had nearly
won over the greater part of the neutral states did the German
government begin to sense the enormous power of propaganda. It was too
late. Just as we were militarily and economically unprepared for the
war, so too with propaganda. We lost the war in this area more than in
any other.

The cleverest trick used in propaganda against Germany during the war
was to accuse Germany of what our enemies themselves were doing. Even
today large parts of world opinion are convinced that the typical
characteristics of German propaganda are lying, crudeness, reversing
the facts and the like. One needs only to remember the stories that
were spread throughout the world at the beginning of the war about
German soldiers chopping off children's hands and crucifying women to
realize that Germany then was a defenseless victim of this campaign of
calumny. It neither had nor used any means of defense.

The concept of propaganda has undergone a fundamental transformation,
particularly as the result of political practice in Germany.
Throughout the world today, people are beginning to see that a modern
state, whether democratic or authoritarian, cannot withstand the
subterranean forces of anarchy and chaos without propaganda. It is not
only a matter of doing the right thing; the people must understand
that the right thing is the right thing. Propaganda includes
everything that helps the people to realize this.

Political propaganda in principle is active and revolutionary. It is
aimed at the broad masses. It speaks the language of the people
because it wants to be understood by the people. Its task is the
highest creative art of putting sometimes complicated events and facts
in a way simple enough to be understood by the man on the street. Its
foundation is that there is nothing the people cannot understand,
rather things must be put in a way that they can understand. It is a
question of making it clear to him by using the proper approach,
evidence and language.

Propaganda is a means to an end. Its purpose is to lead the people to
an understanding that will allow them to willingly and without
internal resistance devote themselves to the tasks and goals of a
superior leadership. If propaganda is to succeed, it must know what it
wants. It must keep a clear and firm goal in mind, and seek the
appropriate means and methods to reach that goal. Propaganda as such
is neither good nor evil. Its moral value is determined by the goals
it seeks."

"Each propaganda had a direction. The quality of this direction
determines whether propaganda has a positive or negative effect. Good
propaganda does not need to lie, indeed it may not lie. It has no
reason to fear the truth. It is a mistake to believe that people
cannot take the truth. They can. It is only a matter of presenting the
truth to people in a way that they will be able to understand. A
propaganda that lies proves that it has a bad cause. It cannot be
successful in the long run. A good propaganda will always come along
that serves a good cause. But propaganda is still necessary if a good
cause is to succeed. A good idea does not win simply because it is
good. It must be presented properly if it is to win. But a good idea
is itself the best propaganda. Such propaganda is successful without
being obnoxious. It depends on its nature, not its methods. It works
without being noticed. Its goals are inherent in its nature. Since it
is almost invisible, it is effective and powerful. A good cause will
lose to a bad one if it depends only on its rightness, while the other
side uses the methods of influencing the masses. We are for example
convinced that we fought the war for a good cause, but that was not
enough. The world should also have known that our cause was good.
However, we lacked the effective means of mass propaganda to make that
clear to the world. Marxism certainly did not fight for great ideals.
Despite that, in November 1918 it overcame Kaiser, Reich and the army
because it was superior in the art of mass propaganda.

National Socialism learned from these two examples. It drew the
correct practical conclusions from that knowledge. The ideal of a
socialist national community did not remain mere theory with us, but
became living reality in the thoughts and feelings of 67 million
Germans. Our propaganda of word and deed created the conditions for
that. Mastering them kept National Socialism from the danger of
remaining the dream and longing of a few thousand. Through propaganda,
it became hard, steely everyday reality."

"Marxism could not be eliminated by a government decision. Its
elimination was the end result of a process that began in the people.
But that was only possible because our propaganda had shown people
that Marxism was a danger to both the state and society. The positive
national discipline of the German press would never have been possible
without the compete elimination of the influence of the liberal-Jewish
press. That happened only because of the years-long work of our
propaganda. Today particularism in Germany is something of the past.
The fact that it was eliminated by a strong central idea of the Reich
is no accident, rather depended on psychological foundations that were
established by our propaganda.

Or consider economic policy. Does anyone believe that the idea of
class struggle could have been eliminated only by a law? Is it not
rather the fact that the seeds we sowed in a hundred thousand meetings
resulted in a new socialist structure of labor? Today employers and
workers stand together in the Labor Front. The Law on National Labor
is the foundation of our economic thinking, realizing itself more and
more. Are not these social achievements the result of the long and
tireless labor of thousands of speakers?"

"We could eliminate the Jewish danger in our culture because the
people had recognized it as the result of our propaganda. Major
cultural achievements such as the unique "Kraft durch Freude" are
possible only with the powerful support of the people. The
prerequisite was and is propaganda, which here too creates and
maintains the connection to the people.

The Winter Relief last year raised about 350 million Marks. This was
not the result of taxation, rather many gifts of every amount.
Everyone gave freely and gladly, many of whom in the past had done
nothing in the face of similar need. Why? Because a broad propaganda
using every modern means presented the whole nation with the need of
this program of social assistance.

45 million Reich Marks of goods and services were provided. 85 million
Reich Marks worth of fuel were distributed. 130 million Reich Marks
worth of food were given out. Ten million Reich Marks worth of meals
were provided, and 70 million Reich Marks worth of clothing.

Some of these achievements were the result of donations in kind,
others the result of cash donations. Street collections, donations of
a part of paychecks, contributions from companies, and gifts
subtracted from bank accounts resulted in cash totaling 184 million
Reich Marks. 24 million marks alone were the result of "One Dish
Sundays." The Reich itself added 15 million marks to the
contributions of the people. The railway system provided reduced or
free shipping with a value of 14 million Marks.

Of our population of 65,595,000, 16,511,00 were assisted by the Winter
Relief. There were 150,000 volunteers. There were only 4,474 paid
workers, of whom 4,144 were in the 34 Gaue and 330 in the Reich
headquarters.

Propaganda and education prepared the way for the largest social
assistance program in history. They were the foundation. Their success
was that, over a long winter, no one in Germany went hungry or was
cold.

Over 40 million people approved of the Fuehrer's decision to leave the
League of Nations on 12 November 1933. That gave him the ability to
speak to the world in the name of the nation, defending honor, peace
and equality as the national ideals of the German people. The issues
of disarmament were put on firm and clear foundations. Once again,
propaganda was the foundation for the nation's unity on 12 November,
and therefore of the freedom of action that the Fuehrer had.

Each situation brings new challenges. And each task requires the
support of the people, which can only be gained by untiring propaganda
that brings the broad masses knowledge and clarity. No area of public
life can do without it. It is the never resting force behind public
opinion. It must maintain an unbroken relationship between leadership
and people. Every means of technology must be put in its service; the
goal is to form the mass will and to give it meaning, purpose and
goals that will enable us to learn from past failures and mistakes and
ensure that the lead National Socialist strength has given us over
other nations will never again be lost.

May the bright flame of our enthusiasm never fade. It alone gives
light and warmth to the creative art of modern political propaganda.
Its roots are in the people. The movement gives it direction and
drive. The state can only provide it with the new, wide-ranging
technical means. Only a living relationship between people, movement
and state can guarantee that the creative art of propaganda, which we
have made ourselves the world's master, will never sink into
bureaucracy and official narrow-mindedness.

Creative people made it and put it in the service of our movement. We
must have creative people who can use the means of the state in its
service.

It is also a function of the modern state. Its reach is the firm
ground on which it must stand. It rises from the depths of the people,
and must always return to the people to find its roots and strength.
It may be good to have power based on weapons. It is better and longer
lasting, however, to win and hold the heart of a nation."


http://www.ihr.org/ http://www.natvan.com

http://national-socialist-worldview.blogspot.com
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you the anti-spam god anyway?
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Did he have any reason to question the accuracies of the Posen
speech?, asked Christie.
"[In] both speeches which I referred to," said Irving, "Heinrich
Himmler made startling admissions to his very select audience which
amounted to the fact that he was -- he had given orders personally not
only for the killing of certain Jewish men, but also for the killing
of certain Jewish women and children and he tried to justify what he
was doing, using, if I may say so, rather the same kind of language as
[Israeli Prime Minister] Mr. Shamir now uses in the West Bank, saying
that we have to carry out this task in order to be able to live in
security in future. This was the language that Himmler used and I
arrived at the very strange discovery when I looked at the transcript
of both those speeches that those two pages had been retyped at some
other date. I can't say whether it was retyped before or after the
bulk of the speech, but they had been typed by a different secretary
on a different typewriter using different carbon paper. Obviously you
only discover this if you look at the original documents which the
average historian is not patient enough to do. They had been retyped
and they had been repaginated in pencil at that point and I have to
say to preempt your question, I have no explanation why. It just
raises the fact that a document -- if a document has been retyped at a
key point, then I hold that document to be suspect." (33-9368, 9369)
"Thirty-one samples were selectively removed from the alleged gas
chambers at Kremas I, II, III, IV and V. A control sample was taken
from delousing facility #1 at Birkenau. The control sample was removed
from a delousing chamber in a location where cyanide was known to have
been used and was apparently present as blue staining. Chemical
testing of the control sample #32  showed a cyanide content of 1050
mg/kg, a very heavy concentration. The conditions at areas from which
these samples were taken are identical with those of the control
sample, cold, dark, and wet. Only Kremas IV and V differed, in the
respect  that these locations had sunlight (the buildings have been
torn down) and sunlight may hasten the destruction of uncomplexed
cyanide. The cyanide combines with the iron in the mortar and brick
and becomes ferric-ferro-cyanide or prussian blue pigmentation, a very
stable iron-cyanide complex.
"The locations from which the analyzed samples were removed are set
out in Table III.
"It is notable that almost all the samples were negative and that the
few that were positive were very close to the detection level
(1mg/kg); 6.7 mg/kg at Krema III; 7.9 mg/kg at Krerma I. The absense
of any consequential readings at any of the tested locations as
compared to the control sample reading 1050 mg/kg supports the
evidence that these facilities were not execution gas chambers. The
small quantities detected would indicate that at some point these
buildings were deloused with Zyklon B - as were all the buildings at
all these facilities"
http://www.ihr.org/   http://www.natvan.com
http://national-socialist-worldview.blogspot.com
The following article explains how holocausts happen.

How does a Holocaust happen?

by Jeff Jacoby
The Boston Herald
March 30, 1992

http://www.jeffjacoby.com/5710/how-does-a-holocaust-happen

ONE DAY 16 OR 17 YEARS AGO, my father, who rarely blows up over
anything, lost his temper over a piece of bread.

It was lunchtime, and my siblings and I were goofing around at the
table. One of us, in play, threw a slice of bread at another. My
father exploded.

"What's the matter with you? That's food! Don't you ever let me see
you treat food like again!"

I remember being startled by his angry outburst. The words, however,
didn't really register. It wasn't until much later -- years later --
that I finally understood that flash of anger: To a man who has lived
through hunger, seen those around him die of starvation, nearly
starved to death himself -- to such a man, a piece of bread is not a
joke.

On Passover, which ended a few days ago, observant Jews do not eat
ordinary bread. Instead they eat matzo -- the dry, flat, unleavened
"bread of affliction" meant to remind them of their forebears'
deliverance from slavery in Egypt. At the ceremonial Passover meal,
they read aloud from the Haggadah, which tells the story of the
Exodus:

For in every single generation, they rise against us to annihilate
us.

In all the generations of Jewish history, never did "they" come as
close to succeeding as the Germans did in this very century, one brief
generation ago.

On the last day of Passover in 1944, the Nazis arrived in my father's
village of Legina -- a microscopic dot in the Slovak countryside, hard
by the border with Hungary. The knock on the Jakubovices' window came
on a Sunday morning before daybreak; like Legina's other Jews, they
were ordered to gather their things and be ready to leave in half an
hour's time. They were put on horse-drawn wagons and carried to
Satoraljaujhely ("Ujhely" for short), a large Hungarian town a few
miles away.

For six weeks, they stayed in Ujhely's Jewish ghetto, which grew
increasingly crowded as Jews from all over the region were brought in.

After a month, the transports began. A tenth of the ghetto's
population was removed at a time; my father and his family were taken
away in the third transport. On a Thursday, with only the belongings
they could carry by hand, they and 3,000 other Jews were marched
through the streets to the train station -- to the waiting boxcars. As
each car filled, its doors were chained and padlocked.

They were bound for a place called Auschwitz.

The train heading north into Poland, my father assumed, was taking him
and his family and the other Jews who'd been corralled into Ujhely to
a work site somewhere.

How could he have known otherwise?

How could he have guessed that he and all those boxcars crammed with
Jews were just a tiny fragment of the vast works that had been
constructed to annihilate the Jews of Europe? How could he have
understood that all over the continent, Jews by the millions were
being uprooted from their homelands -- lands, in some cases, where
Jews had dwelled for 900 years -- to be sent to special killing
grounds where all the science, industry, and manpower at Germany's
command would be pooled for purposes of quickly and efficiently
exterminating them? How could he have imagined that the world would
allow this horror to take place -- a horror so unprecedented that a
new word, genocide, had to be invented to contain it? How could he
have dreamed that in less than seven years, two out of every three
Jews in Europe would be a corpse, or the ashes of a corpse?

The train out of Ujhely moved for three days. It stopped early on a
Sunday morning, six weeks exactly since that knock on the window in
Legina. The doors were unchained. Suddenly there were screaming
guards, barking dogs, floodlights. The boxcar opened onto a ramp, at
the top of which a man with a crop in his hand waved people to the
right and to the left.

My grandparents, David and Leah Jakubovic, were waved to the right. So
were their 10-year-old son, Yrvin, and 8-year-old daughter, Alice.
They died in the gas chamber that day.

My father's teen-aged brother, Zoltan, was gassed a few days later.
His sister Franceska suffered horribly for a while; she died the
following spring.

Somehow my father survived Auschwitz, the death march to Mauthausen,
the camps at Melk and Ebensee. Somehow he survived the typhoid fever,
the unstoppable diarrhea, the starvation that reduced him -- at 19
years of age -- to 65 pounds.

I cannot explain the miracle of his survival, let alone the fact that
he can still laugh, and love. That was -- is -- God's doing.

But the Holocaust was man's. The Germans could get away with
systematically butchering 6 million Jews because good men and women,
through their indifference, let them get away with it.

For in every single generation generation, they rise against us to
annihilate us.

Today is Holocaust Remembrance Day, a part of the struggle against
indifference, a reminder that what could never happen has happened.

And can again.

For only one thing can stop a holocaust: memory. On this one day, at
least, let us remember the millions of innocents who died, and honor
the few who survived. But above all let us reflect, if only briefly,
that in the end nothing can shield us from the building of a new
Auschwitz except our undimmed rage at the old Auschwitz.

(Jeff Jacoby is the Boston Herald's chief editorial writer.)
Topaz
2012-01-19 23:29:27 UTC
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The Holocaust Cowing and Milking of Nations By Alex Linder

'Holocaust': The Means by Which the Richest Group in the World
Contrives to Cow and Milk the Rest of the Us in the Guise of Victims
who are Persecuted and Due Eternal Restitution.

Reading through a thousand blog reactions to Duke v Blitzer on CNN, a
generalization crystallizes. People confuse being told something six
million times with knowing something. They are not the same. "It ain't
what you don't know, it's what you know that just ain't so." The
average man 'knows' the Holocaust exists because:

1) everybody uses the term;
2) he has seen photos of stacked bodies;
3) he has read Anne Frank's book;
4) authorities agree that questioning any of this is 'hate.'

In other words, the average man believes in the Holocaust for no
logical reason, but out of simple mammalian conformity.
'Holocaust' is a loaded, dishonest term. You can't debate with
undefined terms without making a joke of yourself, but the average man
does not realize this. It is the part of public school, reinforced by
mass media, to disable his thinking so that he's worse positioned to
defend himself because he can't understand how he is manipulated to
accept the illogical. Debate in the mass media of a democracy is
nothing but the shuffling of loaded terms.

'Holocaust' is no ordinary noun. Rather, it is a loaded gun leveled at
the head of the West and the rest. Give them their money and their
pride of place or get your head and reputation blown off. You will
notice that never, ever does debate in the captive media condescend to
deconstruct the Zionist Privilege embodied in and sanctified by the
designer label 'Holocaust.' Worship the Zionists and submit to their
demands - that is what the term Holocaust means.

A demand for special privilege protected by a shell of pseudo-history;
that is an objective description of the term. The heart of the
'Holocaust,' taking at face value the term's pretension to historical
designation, is the claim that six million Jews were murdered by Nazi
Germany, most of them by gassing. The evidence for the gassing is
never discussed. Photos of crematories and bodies stacked like cord
wood are shown. No context or explanation of the reason for showing
them is given. The connection is to be assumed. But never is any
ordinary evidence, let alone proof, of the gassing allegation
advanced. That Jews were gassed is treated as though it were already
proved and therefore unquestionable, save by the depraved. Thus, the
practical job of the media and the well intentioned everyman is to
smear and ostracize anybody who argues against settled truth. We all
know that Jews were gassed, and that those who say otherwise are
deniers driven by hate. But it ain't so just because "everybody knows"
it is.

We are told repeatedly that the 'Holocaust' is both the worst thing
that ever happened and the best documented thing in human history. We
are to take these assertions on authority, since no genuine debate is
allowed.

There are men who can prove the 'Holocaust' is a Big Lie. You can find
them in jail. Their imprisonment is scarcely mentioned in the mass
media. Their imprisonment goes unlamented by the mass columnists. To
discuss these men and their work would endanger the Propa-sphere the
media construct. They must disappear. But we know, mass media. And
we're not going away. We're getting louder and stronger. And there's
nothing you can do to stop us.



http://www.ihr.org/ http://www.natvan.com

http://national-socialist-worldview.blogspot.com
Michael Ejercito
2012-01-23 02:43:59 UTC
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The Holocaust Cowing and Milking of Nations By Alex Linder
'Holocaust': The Means by Which the Richest Group in the World
Contrives to Cow and Milk the Rest of the Us in the Guise of Victims
who are Persecuted and Due Eternal Restitution.
Reading through a thousand blog reactions to Duke v Blitzer on CNN, a
generalization  crystallizes. People confuse being told something six
million times with knowing something. They are not the same. "It ain't
what you don't know, it's what you know that just ain't so." The
1) everybody uses the term;
2) he has seen photos of stacked bodies;
3) he has read Anne Frank's book;
4) authorities agree that questioning any of this is 'hate.'
In other words, the average man believes in the Holocaust for no
logical reason, but out of simple mammalian conformity.
'Holocaust' is a loaded, dishonest term. You can't debate with
undefined terms without making a joke of yourself, but the average man
does not realize this. It is the part of public school, reinforced by
mass media, to disable his thinking so that he's worse positioned to
defend himself because he can't understand how he is manipulated to
accept the illogical. Debate in the mass media of a democracy is
nothing but the shuffling of loaded terms.
'Holocaust' is no ordinary noun. Rather, it is a loaded gun leveled at
the head of the West and the rest. Give them their money and their
pride of place or get your head and reputation blown off. You will
notice that never, ever does debate in the captive media condescend to
deconstruct the Zionist Privilege embodied in and sanctified by the
designer label 'Holocaust.' Worship the Zionists and submit to their
demands - that is what the term Holocaust means.
A demand for special privilege protected by a shell of pseudo-history;
that is an objective description of the term. The heart of the
'Holocaust,' taking at face value the term's pretension to historical
designation, is the claim that six million Jews were murdered by Nazi
Germany, most of them by gassing. The evidence for the gassing is
never discussed. Photos of crematories and bodies stacked like cord
wood are shown. No context or explanation of the reason for showing
them is given. The connection is to be assumed. But never is any
ordinary evidence, let alone proof, of the gassing allegation
advanced. That Jews were gassed is treated as though it were already
proved and therefore unquestionable, save by the depraved. Thus, the
practical job of the media and the well intentioned everyman is to
smear and ostracize anybody who argues against settled truth. We all
know that Jews were gassed, and that those who say otherwise are
deniers driven by hate. But it ain't so just because "everybody knows"
it is.
We are told repeatedly that the 'Holocaust' is both the worst thing
that ever happened and the best documented thing in human history. We
are to take these assertions on authority, since no genuine debate is
allowed.
There are men who can prove the 'Holocaust' is a Big Lie. You can find
them in jail. Their imprisonment is scarcely mentioned in the mass
media. Their imprisonment goes unlamented by the mass columnists. To
discuss these men and their work would endanger the Propa-sphere the
media construct. They must disappear. But we know, mass media. And
we're not going away. We're getting louder and stronger. And there's
nothing you can do to stop us.
http://www.ihr.org/   http://www.natvan.com
http://national-socialist-worldview.blogspot.com
The following article is about how the Holocaust affected one
family.

The day the Nazis came for my father's family

by Jeff Jacoby
The Boston Globe
April 7, 1994

http://www.jeffjacoby.com/864/the-day-the-nazis-came-for-my-fathers-family

FIFTY YEARS AGO this week, the Nazis came for my father's family.

The Jakubovics -- there were seven of them in the house -- were
awakened before dawn when the SS pounded on their window. Like the
other Jews in Legina, a village on the Czechoslovak-Hungarian border,
they were ordered to gather their belongings and prepare to leave at
once.

Thirty minutes later they were put on horse-drawn wagons and carted
out of Legina. In the nearest large Hungarian town, a place called
Satoraljaujhely, Jews from all over the region were being herded into
a ghetto. The walls were still going up around it as the Jakubovic
family arrived.

It was the day after Passover, the ancient Jewish festival celebrating
freedom and redemption.

For several weeks the ghetto grew increasingly crowded as more and
more Jews were brought in. Then it began to empty, as Jews were taken
out.

About 3,000 at a time, they were marched to the train station. The
waiting boxcars were filled with families. The doors were chained and
locked. There were no seats inside, no windows, no water. The only
toilet was a bucket on the floor.

For three days, the train moved -- three days of suffocation, thirst,
and filth. When it stopped, David and Leah Jakubovic and their five
youngest children, ages 21 to 8 -- Franceska, Markus, Zoltan, Yrvin,
and Alice -- were in Auschwitz.

* * *

A few years ago, I decided to chart a family tree.

I unrolled a great length of blank wrapping paper and began with my
father's four grandparents, the Weisses and the Jakubovics, writing
their names in the center. Those two couples had a total of 12
children, most of them born between 1880 and 1910. I was able to track
down the names of 11 -- two of them being David Jakubovic and Leah
Weiss, who married each other -- and inscribed them on the sheet.

I learned the names of spouses and filled them in. Then the names of
their children, and their children's spouses, and their children. I
traced the genealogy as best as I could through five generations,
handwriting names and dates on my big piece of wrapping paper.

It was more paper than I needed. This family tree has stumps where
branches ought to be. It gets narrower, not wider, as it grows. One
line after another stops abruptly, and all with a similar date
notation.

Alexander Weiss, wife Kati, son Tomasz -- d. 1942.

Regina Jakubovic, husband Herschel, five daughters -- d. 1944.

Gizella Weiss, husband surnamed Kraus -- d. 1944.

Freida Weiss, sons Robert, Laszlo, Mihaly -- d. 1944.

Leopold Weiss, wife Yolana, four children -- d. 1942.

I have no faces to put to these names, no stories to tell about them,
no remarks to attribute to them, no heirlooms to connect to them. All
I know is that they were my father's aunts, uncles, and cousins, and
like two out of every three Jews alive in Europe in 1938, they were
dead before 1946.

If I lose my piece of paper, there will be nothing to prove they ever
existed.

* * *

This is how my father, who with rare exceptions speaks about the
Holocaust only when he is asked, remembers his first day in Auschwitz:

"We arrived in Birkenau" -- part of the Auschwitz complex -- "on
Sunday morning. It was still dark, so it must have been before 5
o'clock. All of a sudden the train stops. The doors open. People
started shouting and dogs were barking. There were guards yelling
'Raus! Raus!' " -- 'Out! Out!'

"I remember going up the platform. We had to line up, men and women
separately, and go in front of Mengele. He had a little crop in his
hands and was waving, left, right, left, right. There were two or
three other guys, and they were pushing you, whichever way he pointed
with his crop.

"So my parents had to go to the right. Also my youngest brother and
sister; they were not much more than babies, small children. What it
meant -- left, right -- I didn't know. You just went where you were
pushed.

"I went in the other direction. I tried to stay together with my
brother Zoli. We had to get undressed, and they gave us the uniforms,
and tattooed us. And that was it. But within a few hours Zoli and I
were separated, and that was the last I ever heard of him.

"I guess they killed off my family that day, but I didn't know it
until later."

* * *

On his first day in the camp, Markus Jakubovic lost his parents and
four siblings. He would survive three more concentration camps before
liberation in May 1945. By the end he was disease-ridden, emaciated
from starvation, and close to death. He still remembers the crematoria
chimneys belching smoke day and night and the pits filled with
corpses.

He endured a forced march from Poland into Austria, when the Nazis
shot on the spot anyone who faltered or paused to rest. He saw Jews
hanged when they were caught trying to escape, their bodies left to
twist on the rope all day. He used to grab and swallow insects when he
saw them on the ground, so intense was his hunger.

But my father is shy about telling his story.

"I feel I had it not so bad as some of the others who suffered in the
camps," he says. "I did not go through hell like the others did. You
hear about infamous Auschwitz, the horrible stories. I did not have
any horrible stories."

(Jeff Jacoby is a columnist for The Boston Globe.)
Devil with the China Blue Dress
2012-01-23 03:14:22 UTC
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Post by Michael Ejercito
The day the Nazis came for my father's family
It is legal to deny the Holocaust in the US, and many do so. If Topaz's
hypothesis is correct, the ability to freely discuss the matter would have
refuted the idea in the US. It didn't. Therefore Topaz is still full of crap.
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Topaz
2012-01-23 23:06:52 UTC
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On Sun, 22 Jan 2012 19:14:22 -0800, Devil with the China Blue Dress
Post by Devil with the China Blue Dress
It is legal to deny the Holocaust in the US, and many do so. If Topaz's
hypothesis is correct, the ability to freely discuss the matter would have
refuted the idea in the US. It didn't. Therefore Topaz is still full of crap.
The Jews control your media and your mind. Figuratively speaking, you
have your head up a Jews aft end.


There was a book in ordinary bookstores called "An Empire of
Their Own". It was a pro-Jewish book but it showed that the Jews ran
Hollywood.

Here are some quotes from a magazine for Jews called "Moment".
It is subtitled "The Jewish magazine for the 90's" These quotes are
from the Aug 1996 edition after the Headline "Jews Run Hollywood - So
What?":

"It makes no sense at all to try to deny the reality of Jewish
power and prominence in popular culture. Any list of the most
influential production executives at each of the major movie studios
will produce a heavy majority of recognizably Jewish names."

"the famous Disney organization, which was founded by Walt
Disney, a gentile Midwesterner who allegedly harbored anti-Semetic
attitudes, now features Jewish personnel in nearly all its most
powerful positions."

"When Matsushita took over MCA-Universal, they did nothing to
undermine the unquestioned authority of Universal's legendary - and
all Jewish - management triad of Lew Wasserman, Sid Scheinberg, and
Tom Pollack."

Jewish control of the media:
MORTIMER ZUCKERMAN, owner of NY Daily News, US News & World Report and
chair of the Conference of Presidents of Major Jewish American
Organizations, one of the largest pro-Israel lobbying groups.
LESLIE MOONVES, president of CBS television, great-nephew of David
Ben-Gurion, and co-chair with Norman Ornstein of the Advisory
Committee on Public Interest Obligation of Digital TV Producers,
appointed by Clinton.
JONATHAN MILLER, chair and CEO of AOL division of AOL-Time-Warner
NEIL SHAPIRO, president of NBC News
JEFF GASPIN, Executive Vice-President, Programming, NBC
DAVID WESTIN, president of ABC News
SUMNER REDSTONE, CEO of Viacom, "world's biggest media giant"
(Economist, 11/23/2) owns Viacom cable, CBS and MTVs all over the
world, Blockbuster video rentals and Black Entertainment TV.
MICHAEL EISNER, major owner of Walt Disney, Capitol Cities, ABC.
RUPERT MURDOCH, Owner Fox TV, New York Post, London Times, News of the
World (Jewish mother)
MEL KARMAZIN, president of CBS
DON HEWITT, Exec. Director, 60 Minutes, CBS
JEFF FAGER, Exec. Director, 60 Minutes II. CBS
DAVID POLTRACK, Executive Vice-President, Research and Planning, CBS
SANDY KRUSHOW, Chair, Fox Entertainment
LLOYD BRAUN, Chair, ABC Entertainment
BARRY MEYER, chair, Warner Bros.
SHERRY LANSING. President of Paramount Communications and Chairman of
Paramount Pictures' Motion Picture Group.
HARVEY WEINSTEIN, CEO. Miramax Films.
BRAD SIEGEL., President, Turner Entertainment.
PETER CHERNIN, second in-command at Rupert Murdoch's News. Corp.,
owner of Fox TV
MARTY PERETZ, owner and publisher of the New Republic, which openly
identifies itself as pro-Israel. Al Gore credits Marty with being his
"mentor."
ARTHUR O. SULZBERGER, JR., publisher of the NY Times, the Boston Globe
and other publications.
WILLIAM SAFIRE, syndicated columnist for the NYT.
TOM FRIEDMAN, syndicated columnist for the NYT.
CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER, syndicated columnist for the Washington Post.
Honored by Honest Reporting.com, website monitoring "anti-Israel
media."
RICHARD COHEN, syndicated columnist for the Washington Post
JEFF JACOBY, syndicated columnist for the Boston Globe
NORMAN ORNSTEIN, American Enterprise Inst., regular columnist for USA
Today, news analyst for CBS, and co-chair with Leslie Moonves of the
Advisory Committee on Public Interest Obligation of Digital TV
Producers, appointed by Clinton.
ARIE FLEISCHER, Dubya's press secretary.
STEPHEN EMERSON, every media outlet's first choice as an expert on
domestic terrorism.
DAVID SCHNEIDERMAN, owner of the Village Voice and the New Times
network of "alternative weeklies."
DENNIS LEIBOWITZ, head of Act II Partners, a media hedge fund
KENNETH POLLACK, for CIA analysts, director of Saban Center for Middle
East Policy, writes op-eds in NY Times, New Yorker
BARRY DILLER, chair of USA Interactive, former owner of Universal
Entertainment
KENNETH ROTH, Executive Director of Human Rights Watch
RICHARD LEIBNER, runs the N.S. Bienstock talent agency, which
represents 600 news personalities such as Dan Rather, Dianne Sawyer
and Bill O'Reilly.
TERRY SEMEL, CEO, Yahoo, former chair, Warner Bros.
MARK GOLIN, VP and Creative Director, AOL
WARREN LIEBERFORD, Pres., Warner Bros. Home Video Div. of AOL-
TimeWarner
JEFFREY ZUCKER, President of NBC Entertainment
JACK MYERS, NBC, chief.NYT 5.14.2
SANDY GRUSHOW, chair of Fox Entertainment
GAIL BERMAN, president of Fox Entertainment
STEPHEN SPIELBERG, co-owner of Dreamworks
JEFFREY KATZENBERG, co-owner of Dreamworks
DAVID GEFFEN, co-owner of Dreamworks
LLYOD BRAUN, chair of ABC Entertainment
JORDAN LEVIN, president of Warner Bros. Entertainment
MAX MUTCHNICK, co-executive producer of NBC's "Good Morning Miami"
DAVID KOHAN, co-executive producer of NBC's "Good Morning Miami"
HOWARD STRINGER, chief of Sony Corp. of America
AMY PASCAL, chair of Columbia Pictures
JOEL KLEIN, chair and CEO of Bertelsmann's American operations
ROBERT SILLERMAN, founder of Clear Channel Communications
BRIAN GRADEN, president of MTV entertainment
IVAN SEIDENBERG, CEO of Verizon Communications
WOLF BLITZER, host of CNN's Late Edition
LARRY KING, host of Larry King Live
TED KOPPEL, host of ABC's Nightline
ANDREA KOPPEL, CNN Reporter
PAULA ZAHN, CNN Host
MIKE WALLACE, Host of CBS, 60 Minutes
BARBARA WALTERS, Host, ABC's 20-20
MICHAEL LEDEEN, editor of National Review
BRUCE NUSSBAUM, editorial page editor, Business Week
DONALD GRAHAM, Chair and CEO of Newsweek and Washington Post, son of
CATHERINE GRAHAM MEYER, former owner of the Washington Post
HOWARD FINEMAN, Chief Political Columnist, Newsweek
WILLIAM KRISTOL, Editor, Weekly Standard, Exec. Director
Project for a New American Century (PNAC)
RON ROSENTHAL, Managing Editor, San Francisco Chronicle
PHIL BRONSTEIN, Executive Editor, San Francisco Chronicle,
RON OWENS, Talk Show Host, KGO (ABC-Capitol Cities, San Francisco)
JOHN ROTHMAN, Talk Show Host, KGO (ABC-Capitol Cities, San Francisco)
MICHAEL SAVAGE, Talk Show Host, KFSO (ABC-Capitol Cities, San
Francisco) Syndicated in 100 markets
MICHAEL MEDVED, Talk Show Host, on 124 AM stations
DENNIS PRAGER, Talk Show Host, nationally syndicated from LA. Has
Israeli flag on his home page.
BEN WATTENBERG, Moderator, PBS Think Tank.
ANDREW LACK, president of NBC
DANIEL MENAKER, Executive Director, Harper Collins
DAVID REMNICK, Editor, The New Yorker
NICHOLAS LEHMANN, writer, the New York
HENRICK HERTZBERG, Talk of the Town editor, The New Yorker
SAMUEL NEWHOUSE JR, and DONALD NEWHOUSE own Newhouse Publications,
includes 26 newspapers in 22 cities; the Conde Nast magazine group,
includes The New Yorker; Parade, the Sunday newspaper supplement;
American City Business Journals, business newspapers published in more
than 30 major cities in America; and interests in cable television
programming and cable systems serving 1 million homes.
DONALD NEWHOUSE, chairman of the board of directors, Associated Press.
PETER R KANN, CEO, Wall Street Journal, Barron's
RALPH J. & BRIAN ROBERTS, Owners, Comcast-ATT Cable TV.
LAWRENCE KIRSHBAUM, CEO, AOL-Time Warner Book Group




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http://national-socialist-worldview.blogspot.com
Michael Ejercito
2012-01-24 05:49:41 UTC
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On Jan 22, 7:14 pm, Devil with the China Blue Dress
Post by Devil with the China Blue Dress
Post by Michael Ejercito
The day the Nazis came for my father's family
It is legal to deny the Holocaust in the US, and many do so. If Topaz's
hypothesis is correct, the ability to freely discuss the matter would have
refuted the idea in the US. It didn't. Therefore Topaz is still full of crap.
--
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You flamed my father.        |       I'm whoever you want me to be.
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Stop posting that!           |    At least I can stay in character.
What Nazi nithing is NOT full of crap?


Michael
Topaz
2012-01-25 01:36:44 UTC
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"We National Socialists have grown accustomed since our takeover in
1933 to the particular attention of the leading politicians of the
U.S.A. and of the international Jews who stand behind them. Our
defensive measures against international Jewry have aroused increasing
tirades against Germany in America. Sometimes it seemed as if it would
be impossible to increase the flood of hatred and lies...

After leading politicians such as the American Secretary of the
Interior Harold Ickes and Senator Pittman attacked the German
government in the foulest manner, President Roosevelt did even more in
his New Year address. He tried to persuade the American people that
world peace was not assured, and that it was the duty of the American
people to defend three vital principles: those of religion, democracy
and international good will. Roosevelt did not believe these
principles were threatened by Soviet Russia or Soviet Spain, rather by
authoritarian Germany and Italy.

Millions are dead in Soviet Russia and Spanish priests estimate that a
half million people have been murdered there only because of their
faith, but that is not important and proves nothing. The dead do not
trouble the American President's conscience, indeed they did not stop
him from being the single world statesman to congratulate the Soviet
Russian government on the anniversary of the Bolshevist Revolution. No
other statesman did this, which explains why no other statesman
received such praise from the Soviet press. The Soviet press praised
the "noble efforts of the great American statesman."

Roosevelt also ignored the murder of millions of people when it was
called to his attention by a letter from the former Spanish ambassador
in Great Britain, the Marquis de Merry del Wal. The ambassador told
Mr. Roosevelt the following:

Your country's press tells the world of Your Excellency's protests
against the "persecution of the Jews" in Germany. According to the
press, you are deeply distressed by these events. How is it then that
the murder and massacre of 400,000 defenseless men, women and children
in Spain has not resulted in the slightest distress on your part?
These unfortunate people did not die on the battlefields of a civil
war. They were torn from their homes and murdered in public not only
because of their political, but also their religious, beliefs. Their
murderers openly declared their goal of destroying the very
civilization that Your Excellency defends. They have intentionally
destroyed thousands of churches and monuments along with uncounted
works of art and private homes. They have torn the clothes from nuns
and revealed them to everyone's eyes. They raped women and looted to a
degree unknown in the annals of the Christian era.

Your own ambassador, Your Excellency, against all the laws, norms and
customs of international law, has been forced to live away from the
government to which he is accredited, since as he said his personal
security would otherwise be in danger. I further know, Your
Excellency, that you have received certain proof of my assertions, for
I have made efforts to ensure that you have received reports that
support what I have said. Despite that, Your Excellency, you complain
about events in Germany, events that cannot be compared with what is
happening in Spain-and you have not given even the slightest sign of
disapproval at the death of hundreds of thousands of people who have
18 million fellow believers who are among the best citizens of your
country, far more than the two million Jews.

These people have been murdered solely because of their beliefs. Mr.
Roosevelt however has never spoken of a threat to faith or religion.
But they were only believers in a Christian church, after all. Mr.
Roosevelt is conducting a crusade against the authoritarian states
under the banner of religion only because the religious compatriots of
his closest friends have been put in their place in the authoritarian
states.

If President Roosevelt believes that he has to take the field to
defend democracy, we may ask where and when we have ever threatened or
attacked democracy. In the past years Germany has done nothing more
than to partially undo the injustices inflicted on it by the
predecessor of the current president of the U.S.A. Germany has not
arbitrarily altered the map of Europe as he did, creating states
against the will of their peoples only for purposes of power politics.
It has only reclaimed its citizens who suffered a decade long under
governments foreign or hostile to Germany...

In a closed session, he told the Defense Committee of the Senate that
the United States must be ready to support England and France in the
event of a European war. The President reportedly even suggested that
definite agreements already existed to this effect. He further
proposed the unrestricted sale of war materials to Western Europe. The
only restriction was that they had to be able to pay for it. When a
member of the American Senate asked how this policy could be squared
with the law demanding strict neutrality over against Europe,
Roosevelt replied: "We'll cross that bridge when we come to it."
These revelations naturally were a sensation throughout the world. The
impact was greater than the master of the White House in Washington
wanted. He therefore denied the reports. The force of his denial was
somewhat weakened by excited reports in the American press in which
various members of Congress refused to be called liars, and
furthermore suggested that Roosevelt had said even more during the
session than has been reported. The force of the denial was also
weakened by a cynical article in a French newspaper that noted that
"the strength of the claim has not been weakened, for it is not a
matter of the letter of the law, but of the spirit."...

Roosevelt is acting as the mouthpiece and puppet of international
Jewry when he attacks the authoritarian states. They want to use every
means to destroy the newly awakened nations...

The leaders of the Soviet Union tried to persuade their people that
true communism could only develop after all the other states of the
world were allies of the powers in Moscow, and the Red rulers in
Soviet Spain tried and tried to conceal their governmental
incompetence by unleashing a world conflict. We are not surprised to
see the American President in such company. The real rulers of the
Soviet Union are the same as in the United States: international
Jewry.

The truth of this claim is confirmed by the behavior of the wife of
the American President. Mrs. Roosevelt, as a sign of her support for
the Spanish Bolshevist rulers, accepted a gift of stolen etchings by
Spanish masters. Mrs. Roosevelt chaired an exhibition of busts of
Spanish Communist leaders, made by the Jew Josef Davidson. She also
invited the well-known top Bolshevist Toller to lunch. She surrounds
herself with wounded bigwigs of Soviet Spain under whose orders
500,000 Spaniards were killed only because they were faithful to their
beliefs and their religion...

America today is not governed by men like Roosevelt, Ickes, etc.,
rather its fate is determined by the Jews who stand behind them, Jews
like Baruch, Frankfurter, Morgenthau, etc. They are the real rulers of
America, and Roosevelt, Ickes, etc., are only their tools. The fact
that this is known in America is evident from a variety of newspaper
articles. The "New York Daily News," for example, wrote that "the wave
of anti-Semitism in America has increased significantly in recent
weeks and months." The fact that the Jew Bernard Baruch, the
President's closest adviser, is called the unofficial president of the
United States is proof of this fact.

But enough of that. We refuse to interfere in the affairs of other
nations. We think that every country gets the Jews that it deserves.
But we demand the same principle be extended to us. Let Mr. Roosevelt
carry out his reforms and crusades in his own country. He will not
live long enough to do it all. We do not think we have yet seen
anything on the other side of the ocean that is worth imitating. We
think it not a sign of ability, rather of incompetence, that a nation
with such enormous resources and space, with all modern methods, finds
itself in such mass misery and is unable to do anything to alleviate
that misery.

Where would Roosevelt be if he had had to deal with the situation the
Führer faced when he took power in Germany? Mr. Roosevelt has
agricultural resources more than sufficient to feed the country, yet
his people are starving. His country has enormous resources, yet
millions are unemployed. There is only one conclusion to be drawn."


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Michael Ejercito
2012-01-25 03:53:52 UTC
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Post by Topaz
"We National Socialists have grown accustomed since our takeover in
1933 to the particular attention of the leading politicians of the
U.S.A. and of the international Jews who stand behind them. Our
defensive measures against international Jewry have aroused increasing
tirades against Germany in America. Sometimes it seemed as if it would
be impossible to increase the flood of hatred and lies...
Nazi nithings were quite effective in increasing the flood of
hatred and lies. See e.g. Der Sturmer.


Michael
Topaz
2012-01-25 21:53:33 UTC
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Here is a quote from an article by Julius Streicher in 1944:

Der Stürmer, #23/1944, What is Americanism

"The family ties between hundreds of thousands of German families and
their American relatives led many to think that America would never
join a second war against Germany. Now that that has happened, many
Germans still believe that America will never allow Bolshevism to
conquer and destroy Germany. Recent events have proven how false and
dangerous this idea is. One has to be be foolish or irredeemably
stupid to believe that anything good can come to Europe from the land
of presumed opportunity. That did not happen after the First World
War, and will not happen after the second. The Jews have made America
what it is today: a nation raped by the Jews , a nation whose
130,000,000 people of many colors and races have been forced into
helping the Jews achieve world domination!"


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Topaz
2012-01-23 23:05:19 UTC
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Here is part of the Leuchter Report:
"Thirty-one samples were selectively removed from the alleged gas
chambers at Kremas I, II, III, IV and V. A control sample was taken
from delousing facility #1 at Birkenau. The control sample was removed
from a delousing chamber in a location where cyanide was known to have
been used and was apparently present as blue staining. Chemical
testing of the control sample #32 showed a cyanide content of 1050
mg/kg, a very heavy concentration. The conditions at areas from which
these samples were taken are identical with those of the control
sample, cold, dark, and wet. Only Kremas IV and V differed, in the
respect that these locations had sunlight (the buildings have been
torn down) and sunlight may hasten the destruction of uncomplexed
cyanide. The cyanide combines with the iron in the mortar and brick
and becomes ferric-ferro-cyanide or prussian blue pigmentation, a very
stable iron-cyanide complex.
"The locations from which the analyzed samples were removed are set
out in Table III.
"It is notable that almost all the samples were negative and that the
few that were positive were very close to the detection level
(1mg/kg); 6.7 mg/kg at Krema III; 7.9 mg/kg at Krerma I. The absense
of any consequential readings at any of the tested locations as
compared to the control sample reading 1050 mg/kg supports the
evidence that these facilities were not execution gas chambers. The
small quantities detected would indicate that at some point these
buildings were deloused with Zyklon B - as were all the buildings at
all these facilities"

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Michael Ejercito
2012-01-24 05:50:42 UTC
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Post by Topaz
"Thirty-one samples were selectively removed from the alleged gas
chambers at Kremas I, II, III, IV and V. A control sample was taken
from delousing facility #1 at Birkenau. The control sample was removed
from a delousing chamber in a location where cyanide was known to have
been used and was apparently present as blue staining. Chemical
testing of the control sample #32  showed a cyanide content of 1050
mg/kg, a very heavy concentration. The conditions at areas from which
these samples were taken are identical with those of the control
sample, cold, dark, and wet. Only Kremas IV and V differed, in the
respect  that these locations had sunlight (the buildings have been
torn down) and sunlight may hasten the destruction of uncomplexed
cyanide. The cyanide combines with the iron in the mortar and brick
and becomes ferric-ferro-cyanide or prussian blue pigmentation, a very
stable iron-cyanide complex.
"The locations from which the analyzed samples were removed are set
out in Table III.
"It is notable that almost all the samples were negative and that the
few that were positive were very close to the detection level
(1mg/kg); 6.7 mg/kg at Krema III; 7.9 mg/kg at Krerma I. The absense
of any consequential readings at any of the tested locations as
compared to the control sample reading 1050 mg/kg supports the
evidence that these facilities were not execution gas chambers. The
small quantities detected would indicate that at some point these
buildings were deloused with Zyklon B - as were all the buildings at
all these facilities"
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The following article is about seeking justice for past crimes.

Seeking justice for crimes of the past

by Jeff Jacoby
The Boston Globe
September 27, 1994

http://www.jeffjacoby.com/3042/seeking-justice-for-crimes-of-the-past

LAST WEDNESDAY, exactly one year from the day that John (Ivan)
Demjanjuk was released from an Israeli prison and allowed to return to
the United States, the Justice Department moved to revoke the
citizenship of Aleksandras Lileikis, an elderly Lithuanian immigrant
who lives in Norwood, Mass. Perhaps the timing was a hint that the
government will not let the outcome of the Demjanjuk case -- in which
an indisputably guilty war criminal was set free on a technicality --
derail its efforts to root out Nazi collaborators living in America.

Like Demjanjuk, a Ukrainian, Lileikis is charged with having been one
of the legion of East Europeans who willingly joined the Nazis in
effecting the Final Solution, then immigrated to the United States
under fraudulent pretenses. Unlike Demjanjuk, an ignorant peasant
trained by the Nazis to kill Jews at the Sobibor and Treblinka death
camps, Lileikis was an officer and an intellectual, with power and
prestige and scores of men at his command. The Demjanjuk prosecution
turned on the testimony of aging eyewitnesses and evidence supplied by
the KGB, but the case against the Lithuanian rests on a solid paper
trail, with every damning document is signed by Lileikis himself.

A university graduate who earned a law degree and speaks several
languages, Lileikis made his mark in the Lithuanian secret police --
the "Saugumas." By 1939, he was chief of the Saugumas in Vilna,
Lithuania's largest city. When the Soviet Union occupied the Baltic
States in 1940, Lileikis ran away to Nazi Germany. He returned to his
homeland after Germany invaded Lithuania in June of 1941, and was
reinstalled by the Nazis in his former position.

The Saugumas was a major component of the Nazi killing operation in
Lithuania, which began immediately following the invasion. The Germans
relied on Lileikis and his officers to round up Jews and transport
them to the Ponary Woods, a forest about six miles outside Vilna.
There, they were stripped, robbed of their belongings, lined up 10 or
20 at a time at the edge of deep pits, and shot.

Jewish victims of mass murder in the Ponary Woods near Vilna,
Lithuania


The killing was done by death squads called "Einsatzgruppen." The term
is German. But the killers at the Ponary pits were largely Lithuanian.

For Lithuanians had welcomed the Nazi invasion, greeting the Germans
with flowers and cheers. Many Lithuanians (like many Poles, Latvians,
and Ukrainians) were anti-Semitic to the core, only too glad to
participate in killing their Jewish neighbors. With the collaboration
of the Saugumas and the Lithuanians who volunteered to commit mass
murder at places like Ponary, the Nazis, in just three years, were
able to exterminate 96 percent of Lithuanian Jewry.

Before the war, Vilna was a vibrant center of Jewish learning,
culture, and literature, so renowned that it was nicknamed "the
Jerusalem of Lithuania." Some 80,000 Jews lived in Vilna when the
Nazis entered. By the time they departed, the Jerusalem of Lithuania
was virtually Jew-free.

History books and Nazi records are replete with statistics: 5,000
Vilna Jews massacred at Ponary in the first 12 days of the German
occupation; 35,000 in the first two months; 48,000 by the end of 1941.

Dr. Jacob Wigodsky was one of these statistics. A former member of the
Polish Senate, a longtime leader of Vilna's Jewish community, he was
arrested by the Saugumas, presumably at Lileikis' command, and shot at
Ponary on Aug. 31, 1941. He was 86 years old, killed for the crime of
being a Jew. Lileikis is 87.

Abba Kovner, a Vilna resident who survived the war, described two more
of these statistics at the Eichmann trial in 1961:

"At midnight, I saw from the other side of the street, it was 39
Ostrashun Street, a woman was dragged by the hair by two soldiers -- a
woman who was holding something in her arms. One of them directed a
beam of light into her face; the other one dragged her by her hair and
threw her on the pavement.

"Then the infant fell out of her arms. One of the two, the one with
the flashlight, I believe, took the infant, raised him into the air,
grabbed him by the leg. The woman crawled on the earth, took hold of
his boot, and pleaded for mercy. But the soldier took the boy and hit
him with his head against the wall -- once, twice, smashed him against
the wall."

On Aug. 31, 1941, alone, according to the Nazis' meticulous
bookkeeping, precisely 2,019 Jewish women, 864 men, and 817 children
were shot at Ponary.

It is difficult, 50 years on, to see faces or recall names in these
statistics. Far easier to see Lileikis' face -- to see the extremely
old man he has become, with little left in this world but his thick
glasses, his ailing wife, and his dilapidated house on Sumner Street.
Why pursue him? Why dig up papers he signed long ago -- citing musty
statistics, disturbing his peace - when the end of his life is so
near?

Why? Because a man remains accountable for his life even at the end of
his life. Because civilization depends on reinforcing the idea of
justice, even when justice itself can no longer be meted out. Because
only by keeping open the window of memory can we protect ourselves
against the hells of our past.

If the Justice Department is correct, the man who helped turn
thousands of men, women, and children into statistics entered the
United States in 1955 and became an American citizen in 1976. The
crimes he abetted in Vilna cannot be undone. But his presence in this
country is one abomination that can still be reversed.


(Jeff Jacoby is a columnist for The Boston Globe.)
Topaz
2012-01-24 23:24:18 UTC
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"Holocaust revisionism, ie, the examination of the supposed
genociding of Jews in the Third Reich. The generally-accepted version
of this event -- or, more properly, this NON-event -- is what I call
the Orthodox Jewish Version of the Holocaust, or OJV for short, which
holds in its present version that the nazis killed 'six million' Jews
in 'gas chambers'. As it happens, however, there are numerous problems
with the OJV. The following is a list of the major ones.

* The 'evidence' for the OJV consists primarily of the records of the
court proceedings of the Nuremberg trials. As it happens, however,
vengeful Jews were largely in charge of these trials. (According to
Louis Marshalko in his book The World Conquerers, of the 3000 persons
on the trial staff, 2400 were Jews.) Adding to the problem was the
fact that (1) there was no historical precedent for war crimes trials
in which only the vanquished were called to account for their actions;
and (2) these trials violated the fundamental principle of fairness
that no one is to be tried for violating a law that was instituted 'ex
post facto', ie, after the crime was committed.

* 'Confessions' used in the trial were highly dubious, since many were
extracted by torture or or other unethical means, such as threatening
the families of the accused (According to British scholar Vivian Bird,
more than one hundred German defendants had their testicles beaten to
a pulp by 'interrogators'.) Two confessions were particularly
egregious: That of Rudolf Hoss, commandant of Auschwitz, which was
(among other things) written in a language he did not even understand,
and which provided the major basis for the 'six million' figure; and
that of Kurt Gerstein, the dubiousness of which was the subject of a
French doctoral dissertation.

* Many of the atrocities that were seriously alleged at the trials are
now rejected by even establishment historians as false, the most
prominent of which are the stories that Jewish bodies were made into
soap and their skin was made into lampshades. Evidently such stories
were created as war propaganda, just as were similar stories in WW1
about 'Huns' who were 'bayonetting babies'.

* The defendants in the trials had no opportunity to gather evidence
in their defense, and in addition were often given poor food,
subjected to freezing weather without proper clothing, deprived of
sleep, and -- as stated earlier -- often brutally beaten. Furthermore,
those who were condemned to death had their sentences postponed until
they could be carried out on the Jewish High Holy Days in a sort of
'blood libel' celebration.

* The printed trial transcripts often do not match the trial
recordings, and were evidently deliberately changed to cover up
embarrassing facts brought out by defendants in their trials.

* Auschwitz was not a 'death camp', as alleged at the trials, but a
large industrial complex in Poland, and the inmates were forced
laborers. The nazis were desperate for labor, so it would have been
irrational for them to have 'gassed' anyone, and equally irrational
for them to have mistreated inmates or underfed them. In fact, there
was a special court, under SS Judge Konrad Morgen, to try complaints
against camp personnel for abusing inmates. Beyond this, Heinrich
Himmler, who held principal authority over the camps, sent a memo to
all camp commandants stating that inmate deaths must be reduced 'at
all costs' -- hardly something one would expect to find in a 'death
camp'. And while it was alleged at the trials that 4 million Jews were
'gassed' at Auschwitz, the German camp records were not admitted into
evidence, and would probably have vindicated many of the defendants if
they had been. In particular, the Auschwitz death books, which were
released by the Russian government about a decade ago, show that only
about 74,000 people died at Auschwitz in all the years of its
operation, most from typhus, with only about 30,000 of them being
Jews. Furthermore, the crematoria were intended not for the 'killing
of Jews', but rather for the sanitary disposal of the bodies of those
who died from typhus.

* While there were Allied spies in most camps reporting on camp
conditions by radio, none of these spies ever made a report about mass
killings or 'gas chambers'. The idea of 'gas chambers' evidently arose
from the fact that all the clothes of arriving inmates were
disinfected in a kind of gas chamber in which Zyklon B was used to
kill lice which were feared as disease vectors (Lousy Jews?). These
delousing chambers, it should be noted, were far too small for killing
people, particularly in the numbers posited by the OJV. It should also
be noted that Zyklon B, the form of cyanide supposedly used to kill
Jews, was in fact a special form of slow- release cyanide which was
appropriate for de-lousing clothing, but inappropriate for the
instantaneous killing that was supposedly done in the "gas chambers".
(The irony of Germans being accused of killing Jews by an instrument
which they (Germans) used for preserving Jewish lives should not go
unnoticed.) In addition, as revisionists have noted, such killings
would have been impossible on the scale claimed by the OJV because
cyanide is so dangerous that the bodies would have had to lie for
hours before they could be safely removed, even by those wearing
protective clothing and gas masks. Beyond this, cyanide gas is
explosive, so that any little spark, as from the friction of shoes on
the floor, or any flame, as from a cigaret, would have caused any 'gas
chamber' to be transported to the place where it was supposedly
sending Jews.

* Revisionists have proved that the rooms alleged to be 'gas chambers'
could not possibly have served this purpose. The first investigation
of this problem was done not for the Nuremberg trials, but rather many
years later by Fred Leuchter, an American engineer and execution
expert, who took samples from the walls of supposed 'gas chambers' at
several camps and found that there was essentially no cyanide residue
-- an impossibility if the rooms had been used as alleged. (Altho
Leuchter's work was flawed, his conclusions have been confirmed
independently by two other experts, Walter Luftl and Germar Rudolf.)
Other problems posed for the OJV by the alleged 'gas chambers' involve
such things as no air circulatory system for dispersing or ventilating
the gas, no means for heating the Zyklon B discs for proper dispersal,
the fact that the doors of the 'gas chambers' opened from the INSIDE,
and that Allied aerial photographs of Auschwitz during the war showed
no holes in the roof of the supposed 'gas chambers' which would have
allowed the introduction of Zyklon B -- a point made by Holocaust
revisionists in their oft-repeated challenge, "No holes; no
Holocaust!"

* There is no good evidence that nazi references to the 'final
solution to the Jewish question' referred to anything other than
removal of Jews from the area of the Third Reich, the (false)
allegations about the Wansee Conference notwithstanding. In
particular, no 'Hitler order' (or order from anyone else) has ever
been discovered, in spite of the known German propensity for extensive
record-keeping, altho there is an internal memo of a phone
conversation with Hitler signed by Hans Lemmerer of the Ministry of
the Interior showing that Hitler wanted the solution of the Jewish
problem SHELVED until the end of the war. Beyond this, the nazis
actually cooperated with the Zionists under the so-called Transfer
Agreement ("Ha'avara") to train Jews for settlement in Palestine, and
the training camps for Zionists were the only places in nazi Germany
in which the flag of the Zionist state was allowed to fly.

* Jewish population numbers published in standard reference works both
before and after the war do not show a decrease of Jewish numbers, but
rather an INCREASE. These reference works also demonstrate that THERE
WERE NOT EVEN SIX MILLION JEWS IN NAZI-OCCUPIED EUROPE
DURING THE PERIOD.

* The 'six million' is a mystical number derived from Jewish
scripture, and in particular is the number of Jews who are said to be
required to die before Israel can be re-established. This accounts for
why "New York governor Martin Glynn, in a major Albany speech in
October 1919 [that's TWENTY YEARS BEFORE THE START OF
WORLD WAR TWO, for all you who are a tad weak on dates], reported at
length on the 'holocaust [of] six million Jewish men and women' who
were dying due to the 'awful tyranny of war and a bigoted lust for
Jewish blood' during the 'Great War'" (Irena Zdiarska, "Holocaust Is
Undeniable -- But Should Be Debated", Barnes Review Oct 94: 27)). It
also accounts for the fact that, in spite of the formal reduction from
4 to 1.1 million of the number of Jews claimed to have been killed at
Auschwitz (see pix of Auschwitz plaques below), the 'six million'
number has never changed, and thus that in the Orwellian Kabbalistic
mathematics on which it is based, six minus three still equals six.


* The OJV has changed significantly over the years. We have already
mentioned that the 'soap' and 'lampshade' allegations are now rejected
by even establishment historians, altho this does not keep Jews from
continuing to hold burial ceremonies for newly-discovered bars of old
Reich soap (we don't know whether they have also done the same for
lampshades.) Another feature of the original OJV that has now changed
was the allegation that Jews were exterminated at the camps in Germany
as well as Poland -- an allegation which has been abandoned for some
time. Yet another abandoned allegation is that mass killings were
carried out by means of steam, electricity, gas vans (using the
exhaust), and burning in pits; and in fact, the Holocaust received its
name from the latter allegation -- yet another irony of this congeries
of lies.

* The one thing which has done most to convince people that the
allegations of German atrocities are true is the film clips we have
all seen of the liberation of the concentration camps, in which bodies
are shown piled high, and surviving inmates are seen to be little more
than walking skeletons. But in fact these admittedly-shocking films do
not make a case for German atrocities, and in fact actually refute the
notion of "gas chambers": If Germans were gassing Jews by the
millions, as the OJV alleges, then Jews simply would not be around
long enuf to starve, as the "walking skeletons" and emaciated bodies
of the dead obviously were doing. The starvation, it should be noted,
was simply a reflection of the fact that, toward the end of the war,
the German supply lines had broken down, and food was not getting to
the camps. And above all, one should not think that there is anything
unique to Germany about "walking skeletons" in "concentration camps":
Exactly the same thing happened at the Andersonville prison during the
American Civil War, and the nearby photo is a picture of one of those
inmates.

* If there is any one thing which is a clinching argument to the
matter of the OJV, it is the fact that it is illegal to openly express
doubt about this story in most countries of the Western world,
including Germany (of course!), Israel (of course!), Austria (of
course!), Spain, France, Australia, and Canada; and in those few
countries in which it is not illegal, the laws forbidding 'race hate'
are increasingly being interpreted as forbidding such expression. The
point here is that fact does not require the support of legislation --
only falsehood does. And of course it does not take a rocket scientist
to figure who is behind this illegalization; nor does it take a rocket
scientist to figure why cases of 'Holocaust denial' are so vigorously
prosecuted: Jews, and particularly Israel, have profited in numerous
ways and by billions of dollars in playing this scam, including an
unending number of Holocaust movies (more than 400 at last count,
according to scholar Michael Hoffman), Holocaust museums (popping up
everywhere), Holocaust books (Elie 'The Weasel' Wiesel has written
more than 30; The Diary of Anne Frank is a perennial best- seller,
etc, etc, etc), TV dramas (the airing of "Holocaust' in 1970 is when
the scam really took off), 'survivors' by the millions -- all
pensioned by the German government, shakedowns of companies which
supposedly profited from 'slave labor' or were otherwise tinged by
Third- Reich-related activities (eg, IBM, Swiss banks), and of course
the billions in 'reparations', 'foreign aid' and other 'guilt money'
showered on Israel by Germany and the US. It has gotten so bad that
Jewish Professor Norman Finkelstein calls it "The Holocaust Industry"
in
his book by the same name, where he quotes his mother as asking, "If
Hitler killed so many Jews, then where did all the 'survivors' come
from?" No need to explain, then, why there is a saying among Jews that
"There's no business like Shoah (Holocaust) business."

* The only facts that come within even a country mile of supporting
the contention of nazi extermination of Jews are reports of the
shootings on the Eastern front of communist partisans, many of whom
were Jews. The following is what Lawrence Nevers has had to say on the
subject:

continued"

http://www.thebirdman.org/Index/Jews/Jews-HoloRev.html

http://www.ihr.org/ http://www.natvan.com

http://national-socialist-worldview.blogspot.com
M.I. Wakefield
2012-01-24 23:52:14 UTC
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"Holocaust revisionism, ie, the examination of the supposed
genociding of Jews in the Third Reich.
"Supposed"????

I am now referring to the evacuation of the Jews, the extermination of the
Jewish people. It's one of those things that is easily said: 'The Jewish
people are being exterminated', says every party member, 'this is very
obvious, it's in our program, elimination of the Jews, extermination, we're
doing it, hah, a small matter.' [...] But of all those who talk this way,
none had observed it, none had endured it. Most of you here know what it
means when 100 corpses lie next to each other, when 500 lie there or when
1,000 are lined up. To have endured this and at the same time to have
remained a decent person - with exceptions due to human weaknesses - had
made us tough. This is a page of glory never mentioned and never to be
mentioned. [...] We have the moral right, we had the duty to our people to
do it, to kill this people who wanted to kill us.
- Heinrich Himmler, Posen Town Hall, October 4, 1943

I ask of you that that which I say to you in this circle be really only
heard and not ever discussed. We were faced with the question: what about
the women and children? – I decided to find a clear solution to this problem
too. I did not consider myself justified to exterminate the men - in other
words, to kill them or have them killed and allow the avengers of our sons
and grandsons in the form of their children to grow up. The difficult
decision had to be made to have this people disappear from the earth. For
the organisation which had to execute this task, it was the most difficult
which we had ever had. [...] I felt obliged to you, as the most superior
dignitary, as the most superior dignitary of the party, this political
order, this political instrument of the Führer, to also speak about this
question quite openly and to say how it has been. The Jewish question in the
countries that we occupy will be solved by the end of this year. Only
remainders of odd Jews that managed to find hiding places will be left over.
- Heinrich Himmler, Posen Town Hall, October 6, 1943
Topaz
2012-01-25 01:43:33 UTC
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Did he have any reason to question the accuracies of the Posen
speech?, asked Christie.

"[In] both speeches which I referred to," said Irving, "Heinrich
Himmler made startling admissions to his very select audience which
amounted to the fact that he was -- he had given orders personally not
only for the killing of certain Jewish men, but also for the killing
of certain Jewish women and children and he tried to justify what he
was doing, using, if I may say so, rather the same kind of language as
[Israeli Prime Minister] Mr. Shamir now uses in the West Bank, saying
that we have to carry out this task in order to be able to live in
security in future. This was the language that Himmler used and I
arrived at the very strange discovery when I looked at the transcript
of both those speeches that those two pages had been retyped at some
other date. I can't say whether it was retyped before or after the
bulk of the speech, but they had been typed by a different secretary
on a different typewriter using different carbon paper. Obviously you
only discover this if you look at the original documents which the
average historian is not patient enough to do. They had been retyped
and they had been repaginated in pencil at that point and I have to
say to preempt your question, I have no explanation why. It just
raises the fact that a document -- if a document has been retyped at a
key point, then I hold that document to be suspect." (33-9368, 9369)


Here is part of the Leuchter Report:
"Thirty-one samples were selectively removed from the alleged gas
chambers at Kremas I, II, III, IV and V. A control sample was taken
from delousing facility #1 at Birkenau. The control sample was removed
from a delousing chamber in a location where cyanide was known to have
been used and was apparently present as blue staining. Chemical
testing of the control sample #32 showed a cyanide content of 1050
mg/kg, a very heavy concentration. The conditions at areas from which
these samples were taken are identical with those of the control
sample, cold, dark, and wet. Only Kremas IV and V differed, in the
respect that these locations had sunlight (the buildings have been
torn down) and sunlight may hasten the destruction of uncomplexed
cyanide. The cyanide combines with the iron in the mortar and brick
and becomes ferric-ferro-cyanide or prussian blue pigmentation, a very
stable iron-cyanide complex.
"The locations from which the analyzed samples were removed are set
out in Table III.
"It is notable that almost all the samples were negative and that the
few that were positive were very close to the detection level
(1mg/kg); 6.7 mg/kg at Krema III; 7.9 mg/kg at Krerma I. The absense
of any consequential readings at any of the tested locations as
compared to the control sample reading 1050 mg/kg supports the
evidence that these facilities were not execution gas chambers. The
small quantities detected would indicate that at some point these
buildings were deloused with Zyklon B - as were all the buildings at
all these facilities"

http://www.ihr.org/ http://www.natvan.com

http://national-socialist-worldview.blogspot.com
Michael Ejercito
2012-01-25 03:54:36 UTC
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Post by Topaz
"Holocaust revisionism, ie, the examination of the supposed
genociding of Jews in the Third Reich. The generally-accepted version
of this event -- or, more properly, this NON-event -- is what I call
the Orthodox Jewish Version of the Holocaust, or OJV for short, which
holds in its present version that the nazis killed 'six million' Jews
in 'gas chambers'. As it happens, however, there are numerous problems
with the OJV. The following is a list of the major ones.
A suspension of barbarity

by Jeff Jacoby
The Boston Globe
April 27, 1995

http://www.jeffjacoby.com/4096/a-suspension-of-barbarity

FIFTY YEARS AGO, they keep saying. Fifty years ago, Auschwitz was
liberated. Fifty years ago, the Nazis were defeated. Fifty years ago,
the survivors emerged from the ash and bones and hell of the death
camps. Fifty years ago, the world, sickened to discover how
unspeakably deep and black was the abyss into which one of the most
cultured nations on earth had systematically ground up 6 million Jews,
swore: Never again. Fifty years ago, the Holocaust ended.

Fifty years ago.

Ended?

In the Cleveland synagogue I grew up in, there was a woman named
Esther, a survivor of the camps. Over the years I watched her mind
slowly disassemble, pulled apart by memories too violent to endure.
She would burst into shouts during the rabbi's sermon and madly rush
to kiss the Torah scroll as it was carried to the ark. When charity
appeals were made from the pulpit, she would wave in the air, of all
things, Czechoslovak stamps, crying out that she had something of
great value to donate. I got hold of one of those stamps once and
looked it up in a catalog. It was worthless.

When, exactly, did the Holocaust end for Esther?

In the same synagogue was a man called B--, an envelope maker who had
no children and who we all somehow knew never would. What B-- lost in
the camps wasn't his life, but something even more precious: all hope
of giving life. During the war, he had been sterilized in one of Dr.
Mengele's sadistic experiments.

When did his Holocaust end?

When did my father's?

On May 7, 1945, the concentration camp at Ebensee, an Austrian town
between Linz and Salzburg, was abandoned by its Nazi guards. Among the
Jews not yet dead in that place was my father. He was 19 years old, he
weighed 65 pounds, and he was nearly gone with starvation and typhoid
fever. Thirteen months and three camps earlier, on his first day in
Auschwitz, he had seen his parents sent to the gas chamber, along with
his 10-year-old brother Yrvin and his little sister Alice, who was 8.
My father's teen-age brother Zoltan was murdered a few days later; his
older sister Franceska by the following spring.

When the Nazis fled Ebensee on that May morning 50 years ago, my
father was left with nothing but the rags he was wearing and a
greenish-blue tattoo on his arm: A-10502.

And feelings of guilt that have lasted for decades.

"I had dreams and nightmares about what happened," he said to me once.
"I always feel sort of guilty, even until now, about not protecting my
younger brother. I was with him together for a just a few hours; then
we were separated. I wonder -- could I have insisted that he stay with
me? I don't know. Coming from a farm, I was naive. I was not
sophisticated."

Between 1940 and 1945, it was a central aim of the German Reich to
exterminate every Jew in Europe -- to bring about, once and for all, a
"Final Solution" to the Jewish "problem." To carry out this policy,
which was given a higher priority than even the war effort, the Nazis
constructed a vast and elaborate machinery, employing tens of
thousands of people and requiring the most detailed and complicated
logistics. It was an industry whose raw material was Jews, which it
imported from lands as far-flung as Greece and Norway, and whose final
product was Jewish corpses, or the greasy smoke of Jewish corpses. To
ensure its success, the Nazis drew on all the resources of wealth,
science, engineering, transportation and manpower at their command.

And my father has felt guilty for 50 years because he didn't know how
to save his brother.

Has his Holocaust ended?

I mistrust this number, this 50. It seems too definitive a milestone,
too complete, too over-and-done-with. When I hear the words "ended 50
years ago," it seems to me I also hear: "Enough already." "Let it go."
"It's history."

Is it?

On an NPR broadcast two weeks ago, an articulate skinhead named Tracy
Gilson was asked why he has Hitler's face tattooed on his neck.

"The Holocaust," replied the young man, who became a skinhead at 13.
"You know what? If it did happen, good. I don't care. I'm glad. I
really -- that's good. That's great. Swell, good. Kill 6 million more,
somebody, please. . . . I wish somebody would do that here, freakin'
decide that they need to get rid of all the trash and start building
death camps. That would be fine with me."

The Holocaust didn't end 50 years ago; it was only suspended. What
separates us from 8-year-old girls gulping death in gas chambers is
nothing more than a thin veneer of civilization, stretched like a
bandage over a bleeding wound, capable of being stripped away in a
twinkling. Germany is the land of Bach and Durer and Goethe, after
all. Yet how readily it became the land of Buchenwald and crematoria
and pits filled with naked, machine-gunned Jews.

There is nothing so evil, so demonic, that people cannot be induced to
do it, or to look the other way while it is being done. Not only storm
troops and skinheads. Nice people. Cultured people. People like us.

Fifty years ago, the Holocaust was suspended. How long it stays
suspended depends on how long we remember to never forget. Fifty years
after the spring of 1945, when even those who survived are almost all
gone and wildflowers grow where dead parents and dead children were
once piled high, we need to remember more urgently than ever.

(Jeff Jacoby is a columnist for The Boston Globe).
Topaz
2012-01-25 01:42:29 UTC
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There was a book in ordinary bookstores called "An Empire of
Their Own". It was a pro-Jewish book but it showed that the Jews ran
Hollywood.

Here are some quotes from a magazine for Jews called "Moment".
It is subtitled "The Jewish magazine for the 90's" These quotes are
from the Aug 1996 edition after the Headline "Jews Run Hollywood - So
What?":

"It makes no sense at all to try to deny the reality of Jewish
power and prominence in popular culture. Any list of the most
influential production executives at each of the major movie studios
will produce a heavy majority of recognizably Jewish names."

"the famous Disney organization, which was founded by Walt
Disney, a gentile Midwesterner who allegedly harbored anti-Semetic
attitudes, now features Jewish personnel in nearly all its most
powerful positions."

"When Matsushita took over MCA-Universal, they did nothing to
undermine the unquestioned authority of Universal's legendary - and
all Jewish - management triad of Lew Wasserman, Sid Scheinberg, and
Tom Pollack."

Jewish control of the media:
MORTIMER ZUCKERMAN, owner of NY Daily News, US News & World Report and
chair of the Conference of Presidents of Major Jewish American
Organizations, one of the largest pro-Israel lobbying groups.
LESLIE MOONVES, president of CBS television, great-nephew of David
Ben-Gurion, and co-chair with Norman Ornstein of the Advisory
Committee on Public Interest Obligation of Digital TV Producers,
appointed by Clinton.
JONATHAN MILLER, chair and CEO of AOL division of AOL-Time-Warner
NEIL SHAPIRO, president of NBC News
JEFF GASPIN, Executive Vice-President, Programming, NBC
DAVID WESTIN, president of ABC News
SUMNER REDSTONE, CEO of Viacom, "world's biggest media giant"
(Economist, 11/23/2) owns Viacom cable, CBS and MTVs all over the
world, Blockbuster video rentals and Black Entertainment TV.
MICHAEL EISNER, major owner of Walt Disney, Capitol Cities, ABC.
RUPERT MURDOCH, Owner Fox TV, New York Post, London Times, News of the
World (Jewish mother)
MEL KARMAZIN, president of CBS
DON HEWITT, Exec. Director, 60 Minutes, CBS
JEFF FAGER, Exec. Director, 60 Minutes II. CBS
DAVID POLTRACK, Executive Vice-President, Research and Planning, CBS
SANDY KRUSHOW, Chair, Fox Entertainment
LLOYD BRAUN, Chair, ABC Entertainment
BARRY MEYER, chair, Warner Bros.
SHERRY LANSING. President of Paramount Communications and Chairman of
Paramount Pictures' Motion Picture Group.
HARVEY WEINSTEIN, CEO. Miramax Films.
BRAD SIEGEL., President, Turner Entertainment.
PETER CHERNIN, second in-command at Rupert Murdoch's News. Corp.,
owner of Fox TV
MARTY PERETZ, owner and publisher of the New Republic, which openly
identifies itself as pro-Israel. Al Gore credits Marty with being his
"mentor."
ARTHUR O. SULZBERGER, JR., publisher of the NY Times, the Boston Globe
and other publications.
WILLIAM SAFIRE, syndicated columnist for the NYT.
TOM FRIEDMAN, syndicated columnist for the NYT.
CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER, syndicated columnist for the Washington Post.
Honored by Honest Reporting.com, website monitoring "anti-Israel
media."
RICHARD COHEN, syndicated columnist for the Washington Post
JEFF JACOBY, syndicated columnist for the Boston Globe
NORMAN ORNSTEIN, American Enterprise Inst., regular columnist for USA
Today, news analyst for CBS, and co-chair with Leslie Moonves of the
Advisory Committee on Public Interest Obligation of Digital TV
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2012-01-18 21:55:55 UTC
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The article posted by Topaz is sensible - English capitalists wanted
German socialism destroyed.
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diversionary tactics - switch the subject to that of the HoloHoax.
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2012-01-18 22:30:42 UTC
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by James Buchanan

Let's say the Germans merely removed the Jews from positions of
political power and banned them from the legal profession. Germany
went from devastating economic poverty in 1932 to full employment just
a couple years later. If an incredible economic improvement can be
achieved, merely by removing the Jews from power (and replacing them
with patriotic nationalists), then every Gentile nation in the world
should give this a try.

Obviously the Jews don't want anyone else getting the idea of removing
them to create prosperity. The Jews control the mass media in most
Western countries. Most people don't know about the Balfour
Declaration. During World War One, Zionist Jews offered to use their
control of the press to bring America into World War One if Britain
would promise them Palestine. This offer was dubbed the Balfour
Declaration. If the Jews had enough media control and influence to
push America into World War One in 1917, what else have they done with
their power?

It was a huge embarrassment for the Jews to see Germany so prosperous
in the mid-1930s after removing them from power. They considered this
a dangerous precedent. To deal with this "problem" the Jewish World
Congress declared war on Germany in 1933. This declaration of war at
least encouraged a world-wide boycott against Germany and at worst
encouraged other nations of the world to become hostile toward
Germany. (The Jews curiously sanctioned the Germans before the Germans
passed any laws restricting the Jews.) More importantly the Jews
pushed vicious anti-German slander in all the Jewish-owned newspapers
in the West in the years leading up to World War Two. The Communist
mass murder of 30 million people in Russia and the Ukraine received
almost no publicity in the Jewish media. Most people in the West only
heard a serious mention of these Communist mass murders beginning in
the 1980s. Instead, the Jewish media focused all their hatred and
agitation against Germany and its allies.

After six years of relentless agitation, the Jews pushed England and
France into war with Germany. Only two years later, FDR and his cabal
of Jews provoked a war with Japan (and Germany).

Naturally, the Jews did not want future historians to say: "World War
Two was provoked by the Jewish media in retaliation for Germany
removing the Jews from power." The Jews needed a new reason for World
War Two. A reason that painted their enemies as unquestionably evil.
So they invented the Holocaust.

The Holocaust stood mostly unchallenged for decades after the war
because people feared being branded "Nazi-sympathizers" for
questioning its details. The truth always comes out in the long run.
Professor Arthur Butz published his famous work "The Hoax of the 20th
Century" in 1977 detailing a very solid argument against this war
propaganda. Dr. Butz pointed out that the world population of Jews
remained at about 16 million before and after the war. He also noted
that half a million Jews remained in Paris after four years of German
occupation. Both these facts strongly suggest the Holocaust is a
fraud, but the political power of the Jews has suppressed and punished
any public questioning of the Holocaust to this day. David Irving
joined the ranks of Revisionist historians several years ago and went
from a famous successful author to a pariah thanks to persecution by
the Jews.

The Institute for Historical Review has done great work exposing the
Holocaust as a great historical fraud. Anyone interested in looking
for historical truth should visit their website. It's a shock for many
people to see how much propaganda we've been force fed.

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2012-01-18 22:29:17 UTC
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Post by Bible Studies with Satan
Nazi Germany had an attidude problem!
The Germans removed the Jews from ruling over them. That is what
America needs to do:


Here are some quotes from a German pamphlet titled "Why the Aryan
Law?"

"In 1793 the famous philosopher Johann Gottlieb Fichte, author of
"Speeches to the German Nation," wrote a pamphlet titled "A
Contribution to Correcting Judgments about the French Revolution." It
contained the following significant sentence:

"In nearly all the nations of Europe, a powerful, hostile government
is growing, and is at war with all the others, and sometimes oppresses
the people in dreadful ways: It is Jewry!"

The French Revolution, with its "ideas for the improvement of
humanity" thundered past, and in the noise the people who had believed
in world brotherhood entirely missed this serious warning. What Fichte
warned the word about then has today become fact in nearly all the
nations of the world. The Jewish people, once only tolerated, knew how
to raise a hue and cry about discrimination and persecution, winning
the sympathy of the world for the "poor Jews." They increasingly
infiltrated deep within our national organism, growing to have power
over every single area of our national life. The old saga, the "Edda,"
observes that one blocks a river at its source. The failure to do that
was the great mistake of the German people. Thank God, it is not too
late. Our Fuehrer Adolf Hitler recognized the importance of the
problem for Germany's rebirth, and outlined its solution in his
program.

Martin Luther wrote this of the Jews in his book "The Jews and their
Lies": "They hold we Christians captive in our own land. They have
seized our goods by their cursed usury, they mock and insult us
because we work. They are our lords, and we and our goods belong to
them." If in the coming days the Jewish race is driven out of the
non-Jewish world, it will have at least this consolation: It has made
clear to them for all time the value of maintaining the purity of race
and blood in clear, understandable and unforgettable ways.

National Socialist racial legislation has reduced the influence of
Jewry in all professions, and above all excluded them from the leading
offices of the nation. That is an important step in the relationship
between Germans and Jews, but one cannot ignore the fact that we have
not yet fully eliminated the influence of the Jewish foreign body in
German national life. It is not a question of German-Jewish
coexistence, rather of making as great as possible a separation
between blood and blood.
Three things are involved here:

A knowledge of the basic principles of National Socialist racial
thinking,
An understanding of the growth and expansion of Jewry,
The dominant sociological position of Jewry, to show how it dominated
the German people economically, intellectually and politically..."

"In discussing the Jewish Question, even today one encounters
resistance and misunderstandings, especially in intellectual circles.
This can only be explained by the intellectual education of the
political past. This is especially evident when one discusses the
fundamental issues.

Whenever a new thought arises in the world and calls people to
practical action, the old world resists because it feels its
foundations threatened. Its old standpoint has ruled for decades, and
it looks uncomprehendingly at a new idea that does not fit into the
accustomed patterns of thinking. That is natural. When the new idea
and worldview are truly revolutionary, they are on a different level
of human thought and feeling, and there can be no compromise. Its
realization depends on people who support it, and who are ready to
fight to transform the life of the individual and of the nation in
every way..."

"In the long run, no idea is better suited to guarantee peace between
nations than National Socialist racial thinking, which calls for the
furtherance and maintenance of one's own race and one's own people,
and supports similar efforts on the part of other nations..."

"The new Germany that views its own race and ethnicity positively must
therefore distinguish within its territory between one race and
another, between one people and another. Mixing of blood harms both
sides. Race is an issue for every people if they are to live according
to their nature. The German people is not so arrogant as to believe
that is is the chosen people. The familiar quotation from Geibel, "The
world should enjoy German ways," should be understood in the context
of the dreams of world betterment of those past days.

The National Socialist racial viewpoint has clear consequences for the
relationship between Germans and Jews. People have often said that
National Socialism's approach to the racial question is purely
negative and destructive, and that its essential characteristic is
radical anti-Semitism. One must grant that we made the Jewish question
clearer than anyone else, and taught an entire generation that had
been taught to see all people the same to recognize the importance of
the Jewish question not only for our people, but for the entire world.
Our treatment of the Jewish problem in the years before we took power
must be seen as the political education of the German people, which
had lost its racial instincts to a dangerous degree.

The question took on its own nature in Germany, Many citizens had
their eyes opened, and the simultaneous appeal to all the heroic and
manly virtues of the German man resulted in a racial selection of
political fighters who today stand at the head of the new state.
Formerly, the Jewish question, as seen by the state, was a matter of
complete equality and the unhindered immigration of Jews from the
East. This is the best proof of how racial feeling and consciousness
had been lost. Our tone was not purely negative or the simple
rejection of others, rather the emphasis was on the positive values of
our own people. This does require noting that Jewry through its
Marxist class struggle leadership role and its international financial
measures aimed at Germany supported every kind of anti-national action
in the cultural and political fields. Jewry should not complain if its
anti-German activities, which have no counterpart in any other
country, call forth from the people the defensive reaction of
anti-Semitism.

The starting point of the discussion is the scientific fact that the
Jew is different than the German. This is neither arrogant nor
boastful, it simply is the way things are. For us, the Jewish question
is a question between two peoples. Its characteristics are determined
by the racially determined differences between the two, and through
the unusual sociological and numerical development of Jewry in the
course of its history, developments that are particularly evident in
the last decades through a constantly growing process of foreign
infiltration that has reached an intolerable level for the German
people.

More than once over its history, the German people has absorbed
foreign elements, but they were racially identical or similar
population groups, as for example was the case with the Huguenots.
With the Jews, things are fundamentally different. They are seen
everywhere as foreigners, and see themselves that way as well. Walter
Rathenau said it most clearly as early as 1897: "How strange! In the
middle of German life there is a separate, foreign tribe that stands
out in every way with its hot-tempered behavior. An Asiatic horde has
settled on the sands of Mark Brandenburg." Einstein said something in
1931: "I have to laugh when I hear the phrase 'German citizen of the
Jewish faith.' These citizens first of all want nothing to do with my
poor Eastern European brothers, and second do not want to be sons of
my (Jewish) people, but only members of the Jewish cultural community.
Is that honest? Can a non-Jew respect such people? I am not a German
citizen. I am a Jew, and am happy to belong to the Jewish people."

The most remarkable thing about Jewry is that it has not disappeared
over the millennia, even though it lacks its own territory and
language. Even more remarkable is that it lacks the main
characteristic of a minority population, its own pockets of settlement
to which it could if necessary retreat. Only time will tell if
Palestine will someday fill this gap. That question is made more
difficult by the fact that the Arabs maintain their claim on
Palestine. Whatever the twists of history, the Jew has always remained
the same, whether as a grain speculator in ancient Rome or as a bank
or stock exchange potentate in the modern era. They were always able
to control the wealth of whole nations. Nations and peoples once their
contemporaries have vanished, leaving only words and crumbled
monuments behind; only the Jew remains. In ancient days we see him
carrying on his business in the trading centers of the Mediterranean.
In the Middle Ages he provided money for German nobles and free
cities. Today he rules the banks and stock exchanges of the whole
world, forcing the nations under the yoke of financial capitalism. The
power of this people of 15 million rests on these international
relations. This is how they seem to fulfill the commandment of Jehovah
- the world domination of the chosen people.
The secret of the Jewish people, which has enabled them to survive
through all of history's twists and turns, is that it has always
recognized the laws of blood, even anchoring them in the laws of its
religion. The consciousness of blood and family that believing Jews
have has been stronger than all the other forces of history, giving us
a unique example of a people without its own land and language, which
still meets the criteria for being a people, and which has outlasted
many other peoples.

This historic manifestation of Jewry, which is unique, brings to the
fore the question of the relationship between the host and guest
peoples. It has been answered in differing ways throughout history,
depending on the worldview and thinking then predominant.
Since the Jews were dispersed they have been held together by the laws
of their religion and their faith that they were the chosen people.
Until the middle of the 18th Century, Germans and Jews lived apart
from each other. The Jews had no opportunity to become involved in the
religious of political-intellectual life of their host people. On the
other hand, they could practice their own customs without
interference. They had their own religion and their own laws. During
the Middle Ages, the Ghetto was the way Jewry could maintain itself in
the midst of other peoples and fulfill its Jewish duties, which grew
out of its race, origins and laws. The values and ideals of other
peoples were not affected. This separation was only possible because
the views of the host people were as strong as those of the Jews.
According to the writer Grau: "There was no racial defilement or
baptism, no attempt to join a nation that one could never be a member
of, and no attempt to intellectually silence the host people." In the
Ghetto of the Middle Ages, the Jew developed his nature and
characteristics, which were later to become significant, while
maintaining the community of blood and race. The latter is
particularly important, since the strict physical separation between
the host and guest peoples maintained the foreign nature that we daily
see so clearly, now that the barriers between have long since fallen.

Even in the Middle Ages, the most important thing was not the
difference between the Christian and Mosaic faiths. Rather, there was
on the one hand the natural sense that the Jew was of a foreign race,
and on the other hand the strict law of blood which demanded a clear
separation if the Jews were to fulfill Jehovah's mission, which had
guided them from the beginning. Just this has always been kept in the
background by historians, who present the Ghetto as a tolerated asylum
for Jewish martyrs persecuted on account of their faith. There is a
gap to be filled here. The task of historians writing from our new
viewpoint will be to examine the portrait of the Ghetto of the Middle
Ages to discover its importance for the development of Jewry and the
relationship between the guest and host peoples. Even the Jewish side
is demanding that. O. Karbach criticizes historical writing because it
"in significant ways conceals the historical fact that the Jews in the
centuries before their emancipation possessed a legal standing that
was better than the greater part of the rest of the population, namely
complete or partial agricultural freedom. (Ordnung in der Judenfrage,
edited by E. Czermak, Reinhold, Vienna, 1933).

The barriers between Germans and Jews fell as a result of the
Enlightenment and the French Revolution. The path to Jewish world
domination would take a different direction than pious, observant Jews
had expected. Emancipation made it possible to build Jewish dominance
through secular means. With the disappearance of racial consciousness,
only religious differences seemed to remain. It seemed at the time
unjust to give someone a preferred position only because of his
religious beliefs, which are an entirely personal matter. At the time,
this was tied to a belief in human equality and freedom. It was
revolutionary. It shattered the church dogmas that had ruled for
centuries and was the foundation of liberal thinking during the last
two hundred years. The new goal was humanity itself, and nothing stood
in the way of racial mixing. Some had the quiet hope that assimilation
would mean the absorption of Jewry. Jewry itself, however, was more
than willing to use the opportunities of religious assimilation, which
opened the path to all important positions, even to political
leadership. As H. Heine said, "baptism was the ticket to European
culture." Gradually, an intermixing with the German people developed,
particularly in its cultural elite. Foreign blood infiltrated to a
degree that we realize only today now that the "Law to Reestablish a
Professional Bureaucracy" has exposed numerous sources of foreign
blood. This process has greatly accelerated during the last fourteen
years.

Today the age of raceless thinking is being displaced by the ideals of
human variability. Values are rooted in origin and territory, and each
group has a historic mission based on its own unique and eternal
values. Such new racial thinking will of course secure the opposition
of those who either through faith or reason still believe in the unity
of humanity in culture, social order and organization. The Jews will
naturally oppose any discussion of race, since the denial of any
significant differences between people is the foundation of his
infiltration of Western European society. The Jew finds any mention of
the racial question as an attack on his current existence. His leading
role in every anti-national area is characteristic of his mimicry, and
is necessary for his continued existence. That explains the phrase
"German citizen of the Jewish faith."

The recognition that the Jew is of a foreign and different race along
with the reawakening of German racial consciousness must necessarily
lead to a change in the relations between Germans and Jews.

There is one point to keep in mind before examining the statistics.
Only those people who claimed to be Jews and were members of the
Mosaic faith were counted as Jews, not those who for internal or
external reasons belonged to another religion, or those who claimed to
be dissident Jews and therefore did not belong to the standard groups.
This is regrettable for our purposes, since we are interested not in
the influence of those who still claimed the Jewish religion, rather
those who belonged to the Jewish race! That includes all Jews, whether
of the Mosaic faith or baptized Christians. That is just what the
supporters of the Talmud and the Old Testament always said. They
complained that the state opened all offices to those "without
character," to "Christmas Jews," even admitting them to the officer
corps! The statistics given here must therefore be increased
significantly. The Jews are a race, and baptism does not in any way
change the foreign characteristics that are hostile to the German
people..."

Of course, the intellectual atmosphere that enabled the Jew to
infiltrate the German body politic quickly led the Jew himself to see
that conditions for his advancement were favorable, and that the way
to the top was open. He also realized what the population statistics
meant, indeed they were particularly clear to him, since 2/3 of his
kind lived in the big cities, the centers of the liberal worldview..."

"Nothing shows the differences between our people and the Jews more
clearly than their likes and dislikes for certain occupations. In some
occupations, particularly those that are most important for the nation
as a whole, the foreign influence on German life has reached an
intolerable extent not seen elsewhere in Europe. The preference for
certain occupations also gives us an interesting insight into the
spiritual nature of Jewry.
The following figures show how much critical occupations in Germany
have been infiltrated.

112,188 Jews, or 58.8%, far more than half, are employed in the area
of "commerce and transportation, including restaurants and taverns,"
but only 17.11% (3,248,145) of the population as a whole. In the area
of "industry and craft work, including mining and construction,"
19,318 Jews (25.85%) were employed, including 31.82% of foreigners.
For the population as a whole, the figure was 40.94% (7,771,799).

The figures in the field of "public administration, the judiciary, the
army and navy, churches, legal professionals and the independent
professions." 11,324 Jews were employed there, or 5.94% , over against
921,048 (4.85%) in the general population..."
In 1925, 0.81% of Jews were active as civil servants and the army and
navy, as opposed to 2.3% of the general population. In the church,
religious occupations, the legal system and the other independent
professions, the Jewish percentage is 4.3% as opposed to 2% of the
general population. This shows that the Jews are over-represented when
compared to the general population, particularly in the independent
professions.

The percentage of the Jewish population in government positions may
seem less than that of the general population, but the difference is
not as great as the figures first suggest. The most recent figures,
not yet entirely complete, suggest that a not insignificant number of
them are baptized Jews or dissidents formerly of the Jewish faith who
denied their Jewishness to gain an official position.

4.35% of Jews are employed in the medical and health care system,
including welfare, and 2.0% of foreign Jews. The figure for the
general population is 1.88%. The Jewish percentage is thus 2 1/2 times
as high as that of the general population.

In summary, Jewish occupational patterns differ from those of the rest
of the population. Jewry seems to have an aversion to agricultural
work, industrial labor and crafts. They are greatly over-represented
in commerce and transportation, including the entire banking system.
They are also over-represented in the independent professions and the
health care system. These figures alone demonstrate a clear difference
between the native German population and alien Jewry.

Very similar conditions prevail in all Western European nations and
also in North America, since Jews have spread throughout the world in
areas with growing industry and in cities that are centers of economic
and financial power. It is not true, as is often claimed, that the Jew
was systematically forced into commerce by the laws of the various
nations; rather, commerce particularly suits the Jew's nature. This is
supported by Dr. Arthur Ruppin, a scholar respected by the Jews. He
writes in his book The Jews of the Present (2nd edition, Cologne and
Leipzig, 1911, p. 45):

"Thanks to their significant commercial gifts (!), the Jews soon
enjoyed great success in commerce and industry. For 2000 years they
have seemed predestined to work in commerce. It is false to claim, as
some do, that Jews became merchants primarily because the Christians
denied them other occupations during the Middle Ages. The Jews did not
become merchants in Europe, rather they entered the profession in
growing numbers ever since the Babylonian Captivity in Syria, Egypt
and Babylon [because they dislike labor and prefer to have others work
for them! The Editor]. In Palestine until the dispersion they did live
primarily by agriculture. In the Diaspora, there was hardly anywhere
that the Jews lived by agriculture. The Middle Ages did not make them
into merchants. It only affirmed legally that which history had
already established. It is after all the rule that economic laws
generally do not create new conditions, but only legalize and regulate
that which already exists. The law would never have limited the Jews
to commerce in Europe if they had not already immigrated primarily as
merchants..."

Nearly all national economists agree that the Jews owe their role as
merchants not to chance, but to their excellent abilities as
merchants. As W. Sombart wrote: "The Jewish race is by nature the
incarnation of the capitalism-mercantile spirit." (Der moderne
Kapitalismus, Vol. 2, p. 349. Leipzig, 1902). Many others agree..."

"Similarly differences in the relative proportion of Jews by the
self-employed are evident in the medical field, which employs 0.5% of
the general population but 2.8% of the Jews, nearly six times as many.

Similar statistics are found in the cultural area (theater, film,
radio, education, teaching, etc.). The 0.4% of the general population
are employed there, 2.6% of the Jews, also about six times as many.

In the area of public administration and the judiciary, the percentage
of Jews in high positions is 2.0%, over against 1.3% of the general
population, nearly twice as high. The significance of these figures
becomes clear that when one realizes that the 2.3% of professional
Jews in public administration and the judiciary are in a branch where
the Jewish percentage of employees is only 0.81%. That means that the
Jews are especially represented in the important positions that
influence the whole government and leading branches of the economy.."

"The statistics may be interesting. The Jewish workers included 11,406
in industry, 2,220 in commerce and transportation, and 726 in
agriculture.
The following figures show most clearly the different social structure
of Jewry in Prussia over against the general population, and reveal
clearly Jewry's leading role in public life:.."


"On 19 May 1933 Reich Chancellor Adolf Hitler gave an interview to
Bernard Ridder, an American journalist for the New York State
Newspaper. Discussing the Jewish Question in Germany, he said: "Should
I allow thousands of German-blooded people to be destroyed so that the
Jews can live and work in luxury while millions starve, falling victim
to Bolshevism out of desperation?"

Can the justice of his words be doubted when one recalls that,
according to the Prussian census of 16 June 1925 6.9% of all
independent pharmacists, 17.9% of all independent physicians, 4.8% of
all independent artists, 27% of all independent attorneys, 4.6% of
editors, 11% of theater directors, 7.5% of actors, and 14.8% of all
independent dentists were Jews! And these huge figures when the Jews
were only 1% of the population! Is that anything other than a
Jewdification of our entire cultural system?! And what would these
figures look like if one had had the ability to include baptized Jews
and dissidents?..."


"Berlin is the Jewish metropolis in Germany. The process of
Jewdification is considerably further along. That is understandable,
since one is in the immediate vicinity of the protective arms of
democracy and social democracy, where developments can occur
unhindered. Thus in Berlin on 16 June 1925 32.2% of the pharmacists
were Jews, as were 49.9% of the physicians, 7.5 of the graphic
artists, 50.2% of the attorneys, 8.5% of the editors, 14.2% of the
directors and theater heads, 12.3% of the actors and 37.5% of the
dentists.

These figures cry out for legal limitations on Jewry, and it is
surprising that former governments did not take the appropriate action
to tell the Jews "this far and no further."
The Jewish influence gave the rest of the world an entirely false
impression of the nature of the German people. Inside the Reich, they
poisoned the soul of the people, and all social and political
relationships. Until the national uprising, the leaders of the
National Socialist movement were persecuted, defamed and suppressed by
a system that was a willing tool in the hands of a foreign and
different race. The national revolution freed the German people from
this foreign influence, which had also dominated and ruined the German
press and public life in significant ways.
He who wants to understand the German revolution of 1933 must
understand that it had this goal: 'Germany must be governed by Germans
for Germans.' The central idea of the National Socialist revolution
was the longing of the German people to once more be master in every
area of its own life. As a great, confident people, we demand only
this of the other peoples: that they permit us, as their equals, to
govern ourselves as we wish and find our own way to happiness (Reich
Minister of the Interior Dr. Frick)..."


"The Jewdification of our colleges and universities over the years has
reached almost frightening proportions. We begin with a publication
from 1931. Karl Hoppmann, in his volume "On the State of Jewdification
in the Academic professions" found the following figures:

1. University of Berlin:
Medical faculty . . . . over 50%
Philosophical faculty . . . . 25%
2. University of Göttingen, 32% of the professors were Jewish:
Legal Faculty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .47.0%
Medical faculty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 34.0%
Philosophical faculty . . . . . . . . . . . . . .40.0%
Mathematics and Natural Sciences . . . 23.0%
3. University of Breslau
Legal Faculty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .30.0%
Medical faculty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 37.0%
Philosophical faculty . . . . . . . . . . . . . 25.0%
4. University of Frankfurt (Main)
Legal Faculty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .55.0%
Philosophical faculty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 14.0%
Mathematics and Natural Sciences . . . 28.0%
Medical faculty . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 21.0%
Economics . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 28.0%

Jewry has a dominating role on the stock exchange. The board of the
Berlin stock exchange is almost exclusively Jewish. In the various
committees, the percentage of the Jewish race is sometimes many times
as high as the Aryan. The committees include:
That means that 117 or 147 members are Jews, or nearly 80%.
The extent of the Jewdification of German theater and film is evident
from 1931 figures. Of 234 theater directors, 118 (50.4%) were Jews, 92
(39.3%) were non-Jewish.
Berlin led in this area as well, with 23 of 29 theater directors (80%)
Jewish.
The situation in film is similar. The Viennese Catholic periodical
"Schönere Zukunft," which certainly cannot be accused of
anti-Semitism, wrote the following in its 3 February 1929 issue:

"The percentage of Jewry in today's film industry is so high, at least
by us in Germany, that there is only a tiny part left for Christian
firms."

Jewry has long sought political influence as well. This formerly
happened in covert ways, mostly through direct or indirect control of
money matters. Nearly every noble once had his financial Jew. Since
1848, the birth of political parties in Germany, Jewry has openly
sought to become a political power. The Jew Marx was the founder of
Marxist doctrine, the Jew Lassalle was the founder of the Social
Democratic Party. The founders of the Independent Social Democratic
Party of Germany were the Jews Bernstein, Haase, Kautsky, Hilferding,
Cohn, Davidsohn, Simon, Rosenfeld, Eisner, Levi, etc. Carl Liebknecht
and Rosa Luxemberg were the leaders of the Communist Party, and
recently the Jews Rosenfeld and Seydewitz founded the Socialist
Workers Party. Jews sat in the press offices and the various editorial
offices of party newspapers, and above all in the various
parliamentary factions..."

"We think it necessary to mention that the Communist wave that
threatened to destroy Germany politically, economically and
intellectually can primarily be traced back to Jewry.
Is it any wonder that the Jew is arrogant? The greater the Jewish
influence the more secure they feel, and the more ominously and
clearly their character and goals becomes clear: Pride, intolerance
and superiority on the one hand, a drive for world domination on the
other. Several pointed Jewish statements are examples:

Hochmut: The familiar "Dorfgeschichte"-Auerbach says: "We Jews are the
most intelligent race." "We are the chosen ones," says Dr. Berhard
Cohn (Jüdisch-Politische Streitfragen, 20, 22). He continues: "We may
carry our head high and demand particular respect. We must not only be
treated equally, but better. We deserve the particular respect of
other peoples."

Rabbi Dr. Rulf wrote a book ("Aruchas bar-Ammni," Israel's Healing,
Frankfurt a. M. 1883) in which he says: "The Jewish people is a
blessing for all peoples. The blessing has followed on the heels of
the Jews. A whole world lives from the Jews, who feed everyone, and
everywhere spread wealth and pleasure, comfort and prosperity. Only
the commerce of the Jews creates value. Work alone does not do that.
Half of the world's population would starve without the Jews."

The Jew Dr. Duschak wrote: "The world could not exist without the
Jews." The well-known Jew Sacher-Masoch explained the hatred of
anti-Semites against the Jews in this way: It is the same hatred a
Negro feels against the whites because of their superiority.
That the Jews even went so far as to suggest to Bismark that he make
the Jewish Day of Atonement a national holiday is certainly no sign of
modesty.

Intolerance: The Jew Klausner (Society, edited by Conrad, Volume 12)
wrote: "Anti-Semitism and criminality are nearly the same thing. There
are criminals who were not anti-Semites, but no anti-Semites who were
not criminals."

The work by Dr. E. Fuchs. "The Future of the Jews," (Berlin,
Philo-Verlag, 1924) judges our greatest historians, Hartmann and
Treitschke, who see the Jews as our misfortune: "Men blinded by
prejudice and hatred. Small, tiny men."

World Domination: The Jewish attorney Maurthner in Vienna said back in
the 1880's: "It is not just a matter of fighting anti-Semitism. We
want to oppose it with Jewish domination!"

They made the attempt. If the German people had not recovered their
senses at the last moment, and if they had not had a Fuehrer and
Chancellor named Adolf Hitler who recognized the danger and woke the
German people, we would have fallen into slavery. As we have already
noted, the Jew has always known how to rouse sympathy when things were
rough for him. Consider this report from the meeting of the PEN Club
in Ragusa at the end of May of last year: "Schalom Asch in his keynote
address noted that the suffering of the Jews in Germany had aroused
the sympathy of the entire world. Only the German government remained
untouched. He claimed the Jews has given Germany its deepest thoughts,
its most beautiful songs, its greatest poets, artists and
philosophers. Today one had crucified them in Germany and covered them
with their own blood." Mr. Schalom Asch began crying in the midst of
these outrageous lies. He spoke in the hope that his words would be
heard for the sake of justice and humanity throughout the world.
The Jew Asch cries! The German people are not moved. They want no
torture or persecution, but also no unjustified sympathy, only
justice! Remember always the worlds of Field Marshall Moltke: "The Jew
is a state within the state." Remember also the works of our great
historian Mommsen: "In antiquity too the Jew was the ferment of
cosmopolitanism and national decomposition." And remember Goethe: "The
Israelites have never done much; they possess few virtues, and most of
the deficiencies of other peoples!"

The Racial Question has an important role in the laws of other
nations, though other peoples and races are affected than in the
German Reich. It is in no way new or unusual that the German Reich is
active in this area. Contrary to opinions that surface here and there,
our laws are in no way directed against the Jewish religion, its
practice, or the freedom of the Jewish faith.

The German Reich has done nothing but introduce constitutional
legislation to provide the kind of civil service necessary to
guarantee the secure administration of the Reich. The laws do not
render it impossible for a citizen of a foreign state to become a
civil servant. Indeed, if he is appointed to such a position, he
receives full citizenship in the Reich. German civil servants should
however be of Aryan descent. The so-called Aryan Law requires that
each civil servant be of German blood. Since the vast majority of
non-Aryan civil servants were Jews, the first guidelines to the law
paid particular attention to those who were members of the Jewish
race. But we did not simply throw out the non-Aryan civil servants,
but retired them with honor and a pension. The people's state could
hardly proceed in a more legal and mild manner. Germany did not want
to attack Jewry wildly, rather only deal with its results, is clear
from the fact that the Law of 7 April 1933 left untouched all
non-Aryan civil servants who had been appointed before 1 August 1914,
and by the fact that the private sphere not affected. Some complain
that the law extends to half and quarter Aryans. The answer is that
the foreign influence in the civil service had grown to such a
dangerous extent that it was almost impossible for young Germans to
enter these professions." (Reich Minister of the Interior Dr.
Frick..."


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2012-01-14 18:09:21 UTC
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Thus it was easy for the French,socialists, anti-Semitic like Hiter's
German national socialist, to end up co-operating with the Nazis, even
fighting with them agaist allied forces in the Middle East.
That would've come as a surprise to French communists.
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Eddie Haskell
2012-01-16 21:49:05 UTC
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Post by Clyde Armstrong
Thus it was easy for the French,socialists, anti-Semitic like Hiter's
German national socialist, to end up co-operating with the Nazis, even
fighting with them agaist allied forces in the Middle East.
That would've come as a surprise to French communists.
The communist idea is to be realized through socialism, you moron.

-Eddie Haskell
Ramon F. Herrera
2012-01-14 18:56:32 UTC
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There is an direct, uninterrupted, impossible to deny ideological line
from the Nazi and Fascist movement to the US far right.

It passes through Generalissimo Francisco Franco the best ally of
Hitler and Mussolini. Franco wiped out the socialists in Spain's Civil
War.

The Nazis escaped in submarines and whatnot to the South Cone, where
they proceeded to institute far right governments in Argentina
(Videla, Galtieri), Brazil and Chile. Augusto Pinochet was placed in
Chile's government courtesy of a CIA sponsored coup d'etat. All this
was under the approval of Richard Nixon and Henry Kissinger.

Then, we have more Nazi descendants: the Somozas in Nicaragua, fierce
anti-communist Ferdinand Marcos in the Philippines.

Do these folks look like members of the Democratic party to you?

http://tinyurl.com/2dkw2qy

-Ramon
Ramon F. Herrera
2012-01-14 19:07:12 UTC
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Post by Ramon F. Herrera
There is an direct, uninterrupted, impossible to deny ideological line
from the Nazi and Fascist movement to the US far right.
It passes through Generalissimo Francisco Franco the best ally of
Hitler and Mussolini. Franco wiped out the socialists in Spain's Civil
War.
The Nazis escaped in submarines and whatnot to the South Cone, where
they proceeded to institute far right governments in Argentina
(Videla, Galtieri), Brazil and Chile. Augusto Pinochet was placed in
Chile's government courtesy of a CIA sponsored coup d'etat. All this
was under the approval of Richard Nixon and Henry Kissinger.
Then, we have more Nazi descendants: the Somozas in Nicaragua, fierce
anti-communist Ferdinand Marcos in the Philippines.
Do these folks look like members of the Democratic party to you?
http://tinyurl.com/2dkw2qy
-Ramon
I dare the righties to post any evidence linking Neo-Nazis with the
Democratic party:



"How many of you are Precinct Committeeman??" (of the REPUBLICAN
party)

http://tinyurl.com/5sbrnnk (2 videos)

-Ramon
Clyde Armstrong
2012-01-14 23:12:13 UTC
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Post by Ramon F. Herrera
There is an direct, uninterrupted, impossible to deny ideological line
from the Nazi and Fascist movement to the US far right.
It passes through Generalissimo Francisco Franco the best ally of
Hitler and Mussolini. Franco wiped out the socialists in Spain's Civil
War.
The Nazis escaped in submarines and whatnot to the South Cone, where
they proceeded to institute far right governments in Argentina
(Videla, Galtieri), Brazil and Chile. Augusto Pinochet was placed in
Chile's government courtesy of a CIA sponsored coup d'etat. All this
was under the approval of Richard Nixon and Henry Kissinger.
Then, we have more Nazi descendants: the Somozas in Nicaragua, fierce
anti-communist Ferdinand Marcos in the Philippines.
 > Do these folks look like members of the Democratic party to you?
 >
 >http://tinyurl.com/2dkw2qy
 >
 > -Ramon
I dare the righties to post any evidence linking Neo-Nazis with the
There's an excellent book that proves just that. It is titled "Liberal
(Leftist) Fascism by Johah Goldberg. The author describes his book as
one explaining: "The Secret History of the American Left from
Mussolini to The Politics of Meaning". It is a book that you and M.I.
Wakefield
should read. Oops.-- I forgot that leftists on the Usenet never read
books.

The "Politics of Meaning" is a book by Michael Lerner, a Berkely U
leader of the New Left in the 1960s. He is a radical leftist, anti-
Semite Jew
who advocates the overthowing of the capitalist status quo using
violent, Nazi tactics. Like Obama friend and mentor Bill Myers.
http://youtu.be/FsHi6_l1XzA
"How many of you are Precinct Committeeman??" (of the REPUBLICAN
party)
http://tinyurl.com/5sbrnnk(2 videos)
-Ramon- Hide quoted text -
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Eddie Haskell
2012-01-16 21:50:41 UTC
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Post by Ramon F. Herrera
There is an direct, uninterrupted, impossible to deny ideological line
from the Nazi and Fascist movement to the US far right.
It passes through Generalissimo Francisco Franco the best ally of
Hitler and Mussolini. Franco wiped out the socialists in Spain's Civil
War.
The Nazis escaped in submarines and whatnot to the South Cone, where
they proceeded to institute far right governments in Argentina
(Videla, Galtieri), Brazil and Chile. Augusto Pinochet was placed in
Chile's government courtesy of a CIA sponsored coup d'etat. All this
was under the approval of Richard Nixon and Henry Kissinger.
Then, we have more Nazi descendants: the Somozas in Nicaragua, fierce
anti-communist Ferdinand Marcos in the Philippines.
Do these folks look like members of the Democratic party to you?
http://tinyurl.com/2dkw2qy
-Ramon
I dare the righties to post any evidence linking Neo-Nazis with the
http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-spokane/reverend-al-sharpton-to-meet-with-fcc-effort-to-silence-rush-limbaugh

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/11/18/sen-rockefeller-wishes-fcc-shut-fox-news/

http://espanol.video.yahoo.com/watch/40150/930729

http://youtu.be/PuNXmy0e5fc

""There will be zero tolerance for this type of misinformation and
unjustified rate increases,'' Kathleen Sebelius, secretary of Health and
Human Services, said in a letter to the insurance lobby."

""Simply stated, we will not stand idly by as insurers blame their premium
hikes and increased profits on the requirement that they provide consumers
with basic protections,'' Sebelius said. She warned that bad actors could be
excluded from new health insurance markets that will open in 2014 under the
law. They would lose out on a big pool of customers, as many as 30 million
people nationwide."

http://tinyurl.com/2362jgu

Fascism: a system of government characterized by strong, often dictatorial
control of political and economic affairs

http://www.wordsmyth.net/live/home.php?script=search&matchent=fascism&matchtype=exact

Fascism: a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power,
forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry,
commerce, etc.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Fascism

-Eddie Haskell
Eddie Haskell
2012-01-16 21:50:08 UTC
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Post by Ramon F. Herrera
There is an direct, uninterrupted, impossible to deny ideological line
from the Nazi and Fascist movement to the US far right.
Yet another left-wing fascist lie.

http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-spokane/reverend-al-sharpton-to-meet-with-fcc-effort-to-silence-rush-limbaugh

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/11/18/sen-rockefeller-wishes-fcc-shut-fox-news/

http://espanol.video.yahoo.com/watch/40150/930729



""There will be zero tolerance for this type of misinformation and
unjustified rate increases,'' Kathleen Sebelius, secretary of Health and
Human Services, said in a letter to the insurance lobby."

""Simply stated, we will not stand idly by as insurers blame their premium
hikes and increased profits on the requirement that they provide consumers
with basic protections,'' Sebelius said. She warned that bad actors could be
excluded from new health insurance markets that will open in 2014 under the
law. They would lose out on a big pool of customers, as many as 30 million
people nationwide."

http://tinyurl.com/2362jgu

Fascism: a system of government characterized by strong, often dictatorial
control of political and economic affairs

http://www.wordsmyth.net/live/home.php?script=search&matchent=fascism&matchtype=exact

Fascism: a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power,
forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry,
commerce, etc.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Fascism

-Eddie Haskell
Norbert
2012-01-19 00:25:45 UTC
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Post by Ramon F. Herrera
There is an direct, uninterrupted, impossible to deny ideological line
from the Nazi and Fascist movement to the US far right.
It passes through Generalissimo Francisco Franco the best ally of
Hitler and Mussolini. Franco wiped out the socialists in Spain's Civil
War.
The Nazis escaped in submarines and whatnot to the South Cone, where
they proceeded to institute far right governments in Argentina
(Videla, Galtieri), Brazil and Chile. Augusto Pinochet was placed in
Chile's government courtesy of a CIA sponsored coup d'etat. All this
was under the approval of Richard Nixon and Henry Kissinger.
Then, we have more Nazi descendants: the Somozas in Nicaragua, fierce
anti-communist Ferdinand Marcos in the Philippines.
Do these folks look like members of the Democratic party to you?
http://tinyurl.com/2dkw2qy
-Ramon
Everybody knows that FDR collaborated with the Nazis because the USA
was socialist too.

Only Republican Prescott Bush saved the day!

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How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power

Rumours of a link between the US first family and the Nazi war machine
have circulated for decades. Now the Guardian can reveal how
repercussions of events that culminated in action under the Trading
with the Enemy Act are still being felt by today's president

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Ben Aris in Berlin and Duncan Campbell in Washington
The Guardian, Saturday 25 September 2004 23.59 BST

George Bush's grandfather, the late US senator Prescott Bush, was a
director and shareholder of companies that profited from their
involvement with the financial backers of Nazi Germany.

The Guardian has obtained confirmation from newly discovered files in
the US National Archives that a firm of which Prescott Bush was a
director was involved with the financial architects of Nazism.

His business dealings, which continued until his company's assets were
seized in 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy Act, has led more than
60 years later to a civil action for damages being brought in Germany
against the Bush family by two former slave labourers at Auschwitz and
to a hum of pre-election controversy.

The evidence has also prompted one former US Nazi war crimes
prosecutor to argue that the late senator's action should have been
grounds for prosecution for giving aid and comfort to the enemy.

The debate over Prescott Bush's behaviour has been bubbling under the
surface for some time. There has been a steady internet chatter about
the "Bush/Nazi" connection, much of it inaccurate and unfair. But the
new documents, many of which were only declassified last year, show
that even after America had entered the war and when there was already
significant information about the Nazis' plans and policies, he worked
for and profited from companies closely involved with the very German
businesses that financed Hitler's rise to power. It has also been
suggested that the money he made from these dealings helped to
establish the Bush family fortune and set up its political dynasty.

Remarkably, little of Bush's dealings with Germany has received public
scrutiny, partly because of the secret status of the documentation
involving him. But now the multibillion dollar legal action for
damages by two Holocaust survivors against the Bush family, and the
imminent publication of three books on the subject are threatening to
make Prescott Bush's business history an uncomfortable issue for his
grandson, George W, as he seeks re-election.

While there is no suggestion that Prescott Bush was sympathetic to the
Nazi cause, the documents reveal that the firm he worked for, Brown
Brothers Harriman (BBH), acted as a US base for the German
industrialist, Fritz Thyssen, who helped finance Hitler in the 1930s
before falling out with him at the end of the decade. The Guardian has
seen evidence that shows Bush was the director of the New York-based
Union Banking Corporation (UBC) that represented Thyssen's US
interests and he continued to work for the bank after America entered
the war.

Tantalising

Bush was also on the board of at least one of the companies that
formed part of a multinational network of front companies to allow
Thyssen to move assets around the world.

Thyssen owned the largest steel and coal company in Germany and grew
rich from Hitler's efforts to re-arm between the two world wars. One
of the pillars in Thyssen's international corporate web, UBC, worked
exclusively for, and was owned by, a Thyssen-controlled bank in the
Netherlands. More tantalising are Bush's links to the Consolidated
Silesian Steel Company (CSSC), based in mineral rich Silesia on the
German-Polish border. During the war, the company made use of Nazi
slave labour from the concentration camps, including Auschwitz. The
ownership of CSSC changed hands several times in the 1930s, but
documents from the US National Archive declassified last year link
Bush to CSSC, although it is not clear if he and UBC were still
involved in the company when Thyssen's American assets were seized in
1942.

Three sets of archives spell out Prescott Bush's involvement. All
three are readily available, thanks to the efficient US archive system
and a helpful and dedicated staff at both the Library of Congress in
Washington and the National Archives at the University of Maryland.

The first set of files, the Harriman papers in the Library of
Congress, show that Prescott Bush was a director and shareholder of a
number of companies involved with Thyssen.

The second set of papers, which are in the National Archives, are
contained in vesting order number 248 which records the seizure of the
company assets. What these files show is that on October 20 1942 the
alien property custodian seized the assets of the UBC, of which
Prescott Bush was a director. Having gone through the books of the
bank, further seizures were made against two affiliates, the Holland-
American Trading Corporation and the Seamless Steel Equipment
Corporation. By November, the Silesian-American Company, another of
Prescott Bush's ventures, had also been seized.

The third set of documents, also at the National Archives, are
contained in the files on IG Farben, who was prosecuted for war
crimes.

A report issued by the Office of Alien Property Custodian in 1942
stated of the companies that "since 1939, these (steel and mining)
properties have been in possession of and have been operated by the
German government and have undoubtedly been of considerable assistance
to that country's war effort".

Prescott Bush, a 6ft 4in charmer with a rich singing voice, was the
founder of the Bush political dynasty and was once considered a
potential presidential candidate himself. Like his son, George, and
grandson, George W, he went to Yale where he was, again like his
descendants, a member of the secretive and influential Skull and Bones
student society. He was an artillery captain in the first world war
and married Dorothy Walker, the daughter of George Herbert Walker, in
1921.

In 1924, his father-in-law, a well-known St Louis investment banker,
helped set him up in business in New York with Averill Harriman, the
wealthy son of railroad magnate E H Harriman in New York, who had gone
into banking.

One of the first jobs Walker gave Bush was to manage UBC. Bush was a
founding member of the bank and the incorporation documents, which
list him as one of seven directors, show he owned one share in UBC
worth $125.

The bank was set up by Harriman and Bush's father-in-law to provide a
US bank for the Thyssens, Germany's most powerful industrial family.

August Thyssen, the founder of the dynasty had been a major
contributor to Germany's first world war effort and in the 1920s, he
and his sons Fritz and Heinrich established a network of overseas
banks and companies so their assets and money could be whisked
offshore if threatened again.

By the time Fritz Thyssen inherited the business empire in 1926,
Germany's economic recovery was faltering. After hearing Adolf Hitler
speak, Thyssen became mesmerised by the young firebrand. He joined the
Nazi party in December 1931 and admits backing Hitler in his
autobiography, I Paid Hitler, when the National Socialists were still
a radical fringe party. He stepped in several times to bail out the
struggling party: in 1928 Thyssen had bought the Barlow Palace on
Briennerstrasse, in Munich, which Hitler converted into the Brown
House, the headquarters of the Nazi party. The money came from another
Thyssen overseas institution, the Bank voor Handel en Scheepvarrt in
Rotterdam.

By the late 1930s, Brown Brothers Harriman, which claimed to be the
world's largest private investment bank, and UBC had bought and
shipped millions of dollars of gold, fuel, steel, coal and US treasury
bonds to Germany, both feeding and financing Hitler's build-up to war.

Between 1931 and 1933 UBC bought more than $8m worth of gold, of which
$3m was shipped abroad. According to documents seen by the Guardian,
after UBC was set up it transferred $2m to BBH accounts and between
1924 and 1940 the assets of UBC hovered around $3m, dropping to $1m
only on a few occasions.

In 1941, Thyssen fled Germany after falling out with Hitler but he was
captured in France and detained for the remainder of the war.

There was nothing illegal in doing business with the Thyssens
throughout the 1930s and many of America's best-known business names
invested heavily in the German economic recovery. However, everything
changed after Germany invaded Poland in 1939. Even then it could be
argued that BBH was within its rights continuing business relations
with the Thyssens until the end of 1941 as the US was still
technically neutral until the attack on Pearl Harbor. The trouble
started on July 30 1942 when the New York Herald-Tribune ran an
article entitled "Hitler's Angel Has $3m in US Bank". UBC's huge gold
purchases had raised suspicions that the bank was in fact a "secret
nest egg" hidden in New York for Thyssen and other Nazi bigwigs. The
Alien Property Commission (APC) launched an investigation.

There is no dispute over the fact that the US government seized a
string of assets controlled by BBH - including UBC and SAC - in the
autumn of 1942 under the Trading with the Enemy act. What is in
dispute is if Harriman, Walker and Bush did more than own these
companies on paper.

Erwin May, a treasury attache and officer for the department of
investigation in the APC, was assigned to look into UBC's business.
The first fact to emerge was that Roland Harriman, Prescott Bush and
the other directors didn't actually own their shares in UBC but merely
held them on behalf of Bank voor Handel. Strangely, no one seemed to
know who owned the Rotterdam-based bank, including UBC's president.

May wrote in his report of August 16 1941: "Union Banking Corporation,
incorporated August 4 1924, is wholly owned by the Bank voor Handel en
Scheepvaart N.V of Rotterdam, the Netherlands. My investigation has
produced no evidence as to the ownership of the Dutch bank. Mr
Cornelis [sic] Lievense, president of UBC, claims no knowledge as to
the ownership of the Bank voor Handel but believes it possible that
Baron Heinrich Thyssen, brother of Fritz Thyssen, may own a
substantial interest."

May cleared the bank of holding a golden nest egg for the Nazi leaders
but went on to describe a network of companies spreading out from UBC
across Europe, America and Canada, and how money from voor Handel
travelled to these companies through UBC.

By September May had traced the origins of the non-American board
members and found that Dutchman HJ Kouwenhoven - who met with Harriman
in 1924 to set up UBC - had several other jobs: in addition to being
the managing director of voor Handel he was also the director of the
August Thyssen bank in Berlin and a director of Fritz Thyssen's Union
Steel Works, the holding company that controlled Thyssen's steel and
coal mine empire in Germany.

Within a few weeks, Homer Jones, the chief of the APC investigation
and research division sent a memo to the executive committee of APC
recommending the US government vest UBC and its assets. Jones named
the directors of the bank in the memo, including Prescott Bush's name,
and wrote: "Said stock is held by the above named individuals,
however, solely as nominees for the Bank voor Handel, Rotterdam,
Holland, which is owned by one or more of the Thyssen family,
nationals of Germany and Hungary. The 4,000 shares hereinbefore set
out are therefore beneficially owned and help for the interests of
enemy nationals, and are vestible by the APC," according to the memo
from the National Archives seen by the Guardian.

Red-handed

Jones recommended that the assets be liquidated for the benefit of the
government, but instead UBC was maintained intact and eventually
returned to the American shareholders after the war. Some claim that
Bush sold his share in UBC after the war for $1.5m - a huge amount of
money at the time - but there is no documentary evidence to support
this claim. No further action was ever taken nor was the investigation
continued, despite the fact UBC was caught red-handed operating a
American shell company for the Thyssen family eight months after
America had entered the war and that this was the bank that had partly
financed Hitler's rise to power.

The most tantalising part of the story remains shrouded in mystery:
the connection, if any, between Prescott Bush, Thyssen, Consolidated
Silesian Steel Company (CSSC) and Auschwitz.

Thyssen's partner in United Steel Works, which had coal mines and
steel plants across the region, was Friedrich Flick, another steel
magnate who also owned part of IG Farben, the powerful German chemical
company.

Flick's plants in Poland made heavy use of slave labour from the
concentration camps in Poland. According to a New York Times article
published in March 18 1934 Flick owned two-thirds of CSSC while
"American interests" held the rest.

The US National Archive documents show that BBH's involvement with
CSSC was more than simply holding the shares in the mid-1930s. Bush's
friend and fellow "bonesman" Knight Woolley, another partner at BBH,
wrote to Averill Harriman in January 1933 warning of problems with
CSSC after the Poles started their drive to nationalise the plant.
"The Consolidated Silesian Steel Company situation has become
increasingly complicated, and I have accordingly brought in Sullivan
and Cromwell, in order to be sure that our interests are protected,"
wrote Knight. "After studying the situation Foster Dulles is insisting
that their man in Berlin get into the picture and obtain the
information which the directors here should have. You will recall that
Foster is a director and he is particularly anxious to be certain that
there is no liability attaching to the American directors."

But the ownership of the CSSC between 1939 when the Germans invaded
Poland and 1942 when the US government vested UBC and SAC is not
clear.

"SAC held coal mines and definitely owned CSSC between 1934 and 1935,
but when SAC was vested there was no trace of CSSC. All concrete
evidence of its ownership disappears after 1935 and there are only a
few traces in 1938 and 1939," says Eva Schweitzer, the journalist and
author whose book, America and the Holocaust, is published next month.

Silesia was quickly made part of the German Reich after the invasion,
but while Polish factories were seized by the Nazis, those belonging
to the still neutral Americans (and some other nationals) were treated
more carefully as Hitler was still hoping to persuade the US to at
least sit out the war as a neutral country. Schweitzer says American
interests were dealt with on a case-by-case basis. The Nazis bought
some out, but not others.

The two Holocaust survivors suing the US government and the Bush
family for a total of $40bn in compensation claim both materially
benefited from Auschwitz slave labour during the second world war.

Kurt Julius Goldstein, 87, and Peter Gingold, 85, began a class action
in America in 2001, but the case was thrown out by Judge Rosemary
Collier on the grounds that the government cannot be held liable under
the principle of "state sovereignty".

Jan Lissmann, one of the lawyers for the survivors, said: "President
Bush withdrew President Bill Clinton's signature from the treaty [that
founded the court] not only to protect Americans, but also to protect
himself and his family."

Lissmann argues that genocide-related cases are covered by
international law, which does hold governments accountable for their
actions. He claims the ruling was invalid as no hearing took place.

In their claims, Mr Goldstein and Mr Gingold, honorary chairman of the
League of Anti-fascists, suggest the Americans were aware of what was
happening at Auschwitz and should have bombed the camp.

The lawyers also filed a motion in The Hague asking for an opinion on
whether state sovereignty is a valid reason for refusing to hear their
case. A ruling is expected within a month.

The petition to The Hague states: "From April 1944 on, the American
Air Force could have destroyed the camp with air raids, as well as the
railway bridges and railway lines from Hungary to Auschwitz. The
murder of about 400,000 Hungarian Holocaust victims could have been
prevented."

The case is built around a January 22 1944 executive order signed by
President Franklin Roosevelt calling on the government to take all
measures to rescue the European Jews. The lawyers claim the order was
ignored because of pressure brought by a group of big American
companies, including BBH, where Prescott Bush was a director.

Lissmann said: "If we have a positive ruling from the court it will
cause [president] Bush huge problems and make him personally liable to
pay compensation."

The US government and the Bush family deny all the claims against
them.

In addition to Eva Schweitzer's book, two other books are about to be
published that raise the subject of Prescott Bush's business history.
The author of the second book, to be published next year, John Loftus,
is a former US attorney who prosecuted Nazi war criminals in the 70s.
Now living in St Petersburg, Florida and earning his living as a
security commentator for Fox News and ABC radio, Loftus is working on
a novel which uses some of the material he has uncovered on Bush.
Loftus stressed that what Prescott Bush was involved in was just what
many other American and British businessmen were doing at the time.

"You can't blame Bush for what his grandfather did any more than you
can blame Jack Kennedy for what his father did - bought Nazi stocks -
but what is important is the cover-up, how it could have gone on so
successfully for half a century, and does that have implications for
us today?" he said.

"This was the mechanism by which Hitler was funded to come to power,
this was the mechanism by which the Third Reich's defence industry was
re-armed, this was the mechanism by which Nazi profits were
repatriated back to the American owners, this was the mechanism by
which investigations into the financial laundering of the Third Reich
were blunted," said Loftus, who is vice-chairman of the Holocaust
Museum in St Petersburg.

"The Union Banking Corporation was a holding company for the Nazis,
for Fritz Thyssen," said Loftus. "At various times, the Bush family
has tried to spin it, saying they were owned by a Dutch bank and it
wasn't until the Nazis took over Holland that they realised that now
the Nazis controlled the apparent company and that is why the Bush
supporters claim when the war was over they got their money back. Both
the American treasury investigations and the intelligence
investigations in Europe completely bely that, it's absolute
horseshit. They always knew who the ultimate beneficiaries were."

"There is no one left alive who could be prosecuted but they did get
away with it," said Loftus. "As a former federal prosecutor, I would
make a case for Prescott Bush, his father-in-law (George Walker) and
Averill Harriman [to be prosecuted] for giving aid and comfort to the
enemy. They remained on the boards of these companies knowing that
they were of financial benefit to the nation of Germany."

Loftus said Prescott Bush must have been aware of what was happening
in Germany at the time. "My take on him was that he was a not terribly
successful in-law who did what Herbert Walker told him to. Walker and
Harriman were the two evil geniuses, they didn't care about the Nazis
any more than they cared about their investments with the Bolsheviks."
Ramon F. Herrera
2012-01-14 19:25:40 UTC
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Why so far as 1940? This is happening today:

http://www.adl.org/main_Extremism/White_Supremacists_July_4_Tea_Parties.htm

-Ramon
Eddie Haskell
2012-01-16 21:52:15 UTC
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Post by Ramon F. Herrera
http://www.adl.org/main_Extremism/White_Supremacists_July_4_Tea_Parties.htm
You put your recruits in elected office.

http://www.examiner.com/conservative-in-spokane/reverend-al-sharpton-to-meet-with-fcc-effort-to-silence-rush-limbaugh

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/11/18/sen-rockefeller-wishes-fcc-shut-fox-news/

http://espanol.video.yahoo.com/watch/40150/930729

http://youtu.be/PuNXmy0e5fc

""There will be zero tolerance for this type of misinformation and
unjustified rate increases,'' Kathleen Sebelius, secretary of Health and
Human Services, said in a letter to the insurance lobby."

""Simply stated, we will not stand idly by as insurers blame their premium
hikes and increased profits on the requirement that they provide consumers
with basic protections,'' Sebelius said. She warned that bad actors could be
excluded from new health insurance markets that will open in 2014 under the
law. They would lose out on a big pool of customers, as many as 30 million
people nationwide."

http://tinyurl.com/2362jgu

Fascism: a system of government characterized by strong, often dictatorial
control of political and economic affairs

http://www.wordsmyth.net/live/home.php?script=search&matchent=fascism&matchtype=exact

Fascism: a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power,
forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry,
commerce, etc.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/Fascism

-Eddie Haskell
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