McDonald's customers claim 'ridiculous' new toilet rule is causing them to wet themselves

[Byker]

I once badly needed a shit and went in the Mcdonald's in Dalston. The
negro behind the counter told me I'd have to buy something first, so I
ordered the cheapest thing on the menu and went and eased myself. When I
came out and was leaving he called out to give me my hamburger. I felt
like telling him to stick it up his arse but just told him contemptuously
I didn't want it.

In India, they just go in the street whenever they need to. It must be
why India is so noted for its hygiene.

Uh-huh: https://tinyurl.com/ybz6lpld

[felix]

Post by Byker

I once badly needed a shit and went in the Mcdonald's in Dalston. The
negro behind the counter told me I'd have to buy something first, so I
ordered the cheapest thing on the menu and went and eased myself. When I
came out and was leaving he called out to give me my hamburger. I felt
like telling him to stick it up his arse but just told him
contemptuously
I didn't want it.

In India, they just go in the street whenever they need to.  It must be
why India is so noted for its hygiene.

Uh-huh: https://tinyurl.com/ybz6lpld

[johnny-knowall]

Post by felix

Post by Byker

I once badly needed a shit and went in the Mcdonald's in Dalston. The
negro behind the counter told me I'd have to buy something first, so I
ordered the cheapest thing on the menu and went and eased myself. When I
came out and was leaving he called out to give me my hamburger. I felt
like telling him to stick it up his arse but just told him contemptuously
I didn't want it.

In India, they just go in the street whenever they need to. It must be
why India is so noted for its hygiene.

Uh-huh: https://tinyurl.com/ybz6lpld

http://youtu.be/laQugbtwVXU

I have always assumed that customers of McDonalds are there because they have
shit for brains. Maybe the purveyors of junk disguised as food worry that
their entire premises will be covered in faeces if they don’t have rules?

[Daniel60]

On 12 Jun 2018, felix wrote (in article

Post by felix

Post by Byker

I once badly needed a shit and went in the Mcdonald's in
Dalston. The negro behind the counter told me I'd have to buy
something first, so I ordered the cheapest thing on the menu
and went and eased myself. When I came out and was leaving he
called out to give me my hamburger. I felt like telling him
to stick it up his arse but just told him contemptuously I
didn't want it.

In India, they just go in the street whenever they need to. It
must be why India is so noted for its hygiene.

Uh-huh: https://tinyurl.com/ybz6lpld

http://youtu.be/laQugbtwVXU

I have always assumed that customers of McDonalds are there because
they have shit for brains. Maybe the purveyors of junk disguised as
food worry that their entire premises will be covered in faeces if
they don’t have rules?

but wouldn't sensible people think that if a person is badly in need of
a shit, making them wait whilst they ordered and paid for something
could be counter-productive??

[felix]

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by felix

Post by Byker

I once badly needed a shit and went in the Mcdonald's in Dalston. The
negro behind the counter told me I'd have to buy something first,

why? did you announce you were going to the loo? just walk in like you
own the place and go straight to the loo. it's what we do in Oz

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by felix

Post by Byker

so I
ordered the cheapest thing on the menu and went and eased myself. When I
came out and was leaving he called out to give me my hamburger. I felt
like telling him to stick it up his arse but just told him
contemptuously
I didn't want it.

In India, they just go in the street whenever they need to. It must be
why India is so noted for its hygiene.

Uh-huh: https://tinyurl.com/ybz6lpld

http://youtu.be/laQugbtwVXU

I have always assumed that customers of McDonalds are there because they have
shit for brains. Maybe the purveyors of junk disguised as food worry that
their entire premises will be covered in faeces if they don’t have rules?

[Bruce S]

Post by felix

I once badly needed a shit and went in the Mcdonald's in Dalston. The
negro behind the counter told me I'd have to buy something first,

why? did you announce you were going to the loo? just walk in like you
own the place and go straight to the loo. it's what we do in Oz

Same here, in the U.S. Pretty much all fast-food joints, and many real
restaurants, have the restrooms readily accessible from the entry door,
so there's no need to even talk to the cashiers. Except for the small
places, the restrooms are multi-use, so the doors aren't going to be
locked.

[johnny-knowall]

Post by felix

I once badly needed a shit and went in the Mcdonald's in Dalston. The
negro behind the counter told me I'd have to buy something first,

why? did you announce you were going to the loo? just walk in like you
own the place and go straight to the loo. it's what we do in Oz

Same here, in the U.S. Pretty much all fast-food joints, and many real
restaurants, have the restrooms readily accessible from the entry door,
so there's no need to even talk to the cashiers. Except for the small
places, the restrooms are multi-use, so the doors aren't going to be
locked.

Weird.

What kind of strange people go around public places constantly in need of a
toilet?

Now I know that billions of sheeple have been brainwashed to believe that
they need to keep hydrated at all times, or else their body will cease to
function properly.

But, sadly, that is simply a very clever marketing ploy by the international
producers of bottled water.

I suppose that once they found they could persuade the minions that they must
carry a bottle of water with them at all times, despite the cost being far
higher than petrol, and that the stuff was free out of the taps; they knew
that brainwashing the population to believe anything else the authorities
required was just a piece of piss.

And now we have potentially sensible idiots running around constrained by an
almost constant desire for a piss or a shit.

[abelard]

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by felix

I once badly needed a shit and went in the Mcdonald's in Dalston. The
negro behind the counter told me I'd have to buy something first,

why? did you announce you were going to the loo? just walk in like you
own the place and go straight to the loo. it's what we do in Oz

Same here, in the U.S. Pretty much all fast-food joints, and many real
restaurants, have the restrooms readily accessible from the entry door,
so there's no need to even talk to the cashiers. Except for the small
places, the restrooms are multi-use, so the doors aren't going to be
locked.

Weird.
What kind of strange people go around public places constantly in need of a
toilet?
Now I know that billions of sheeple have been brainwashed to believe that
they need to keep hydrated at all times, or else their body will cease to
function properly.
But, sadly, that is simply a very clever marketing ploy by the international
producers of bottled water.
I suppose that once they found they could persuade the minions that they must
carry a bottle of water with them at all times, despite the cost being far
higher than petrol, and that the stuff was free out of the taps; they knew
that brainwashing the population to believe anything else the authorities
required was just a piece of piss.
And now we have potentially sensible idiots running around constrained by an
almost constant desire for a piss or a shit.

many older people have weak bladders....some even have
other problems...
there is a common problem that mostly effects females
because they are raised to be shy of being seen to
go for a leak...it also effects a few males...about
10 times s many females...their bladder gets stretched
past its elastic limits be trying to hold on too long

you really should get out more!

[johnny-knowall]

Post by abelard

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by felix

I once badly needed a shit and went in the Mcdonald's in Dalston. The
negro behind the counter told me I'd have to buy something first,

why? did you announce you were going to the loo? just walk in like you
own the place and go straight to the loo. it's what we do in Oz

Same here, in the U.S. Pretty much all fast-food joints, and many real
restaurants, have the restrooms readily accessible from the entry door,
so there's no need to even talk to the cashiers. Except for the small
places, the restrooms are multi-use, so the doors aren't going to be
locked.

Weird.
What kind of strange people go around public places constantly in need of a
toilet?
Now I know that billions of sheeple have been brainwashed to believe that
they need to keep hydrated at all times, or else their body will cease to
function properly.
But, sadly, that is simply a very clever marketing ploy by the international
producers of bottled water.
I suppose that once they found they could persuade the minions that they must
carry a bottle of water with them at all times, despite the cost being far
higher than petrol, and that the stuff was free out of the taps; they knew
that brainwashing the population to believe anything else the authorities
required was just a piece of piss.
And now we have potentially sensible idiots running around constrained by an
almost constant desire for a piss or a shit.

many older people have weak bladders....some even have
other problems...
there is a common problem that mostly effects females
because they are raised to be shy of being seen to
go for a leak...it also effects a few males...about
10 times s many females...their bladder gets stretched
past its elastic limits be trying to hold on too long
you really should get out more!

But if I do, I might piss myself more...

Better to spend the entire day at home in the lav.

[abelard]

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by abelard

Post by johnny-knowall
And now we have potentially sensible idiots running around constrained by an
almost constant desire for a piss or a shit.

many older people have weak bladders....some even have
other problems...
there is a common problem that mostly effects females
because they are raised to be shy of being seen to
go for a leak...it also effects a few males...about
10 times s many females...their bladder gets stretched
past its elastic limits be trying to hold on too long
you really should get out more!

But if I do, I might piss myself more...
Better to spend the entire day at home in the lav.

i'm certain sure macs appreciate your altruism

[FMurtz]

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by felix

I once badly needed a shit and went in the Mcdonald's in Dalston. The
negro behind the counter told me I'd have to buy something first,

why? did you announce you were going to the loo? just walk in like you
own the place and go straight to the loo. it's what we do in Oz

Same here, in the U.S. Pretty much all fast-food joints, and many real
restaurants, have the restrooms readily accessible from the entry door,
so there's no need to even talk to the cashiers. Except for the small
places, the restrooms are multi-use, so the doors aren't going to be
locked.

Weird.
What kind of strange people go around public places constantly in need of a
toilet?

Methinks you are an idiot,Many many people have problems, older people,
children and people who have just had surgery etc, hope you don'[t get old.

Post by johnny-knowall
Now I know that billions of sheeple have been brainwashed to believe that
they need to keep hydrated at all times, or else their body will cease to
function properly.
But, sadly, that is simply a very clever marketing ploy by the international
producers of bottled water.
I suppose that once they found they could persuade the minions that they must
carry a bottle of water with them at all times, despite the cost being far
higher than petrol, and that the stuff was free out of the taps; they knew
that brainwashing the population to believe anything else the authorities
required was just a piece of piss.
And now we have potentially sensible idiots running around constrained by an
almost constant desire for a piss or a shit.

[felix]

Post by FMurtz

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by felix

I once badly needed a shit and went in the Mcdonald's in Dalston. The
negro behind the counter told me I'd have to buy something first,

why? did you announce you were going to the loo? just walk in like you
own the place and go straight to the loo. it's what we do in Oz

Same here, in the U.S. Pretty much all fast-food joints, and many real
restaurants, have the restrooms readily accessible from the entry door,
so there's no need to even talk to the cashiers. Except for the small
places, the restrooms are multi-use, so the doors aren't going to be
locked.

Weird.
What kind of strange people go around public places constantly in need of a
toilet?

Methinks you are an idiot,Many many people have problems, older
people, children and people who have just had surgery etc, hope you
don't get old.

that hope will not be realized..

Post by FMurtz

Post by johnny-knowall
Now I know that billions of sheeple have been brainwashed to believe that
they need to keep hydrated at all times, or else their body will cease to
function properly.
But, sadly, that is simply a very clever marketing ploy by the international
producers of bottled water.
I suppose that once they found they could persuade the minions that they must
carry a bottle of water with them at all times, despite the cost being far
higher than petrol, and that the stuff was free out of the taps;

which one uses to fill up their plastic bottles

Post by FMurtz

Post by johnny-knowall
they knew
that brainwashing the population to believe anything else the
authorities
required was just a piece of piss.
And now we have potentially sensible idiots running around
constrained by an
almost constant desire for a piss or a shit.

[Fran]

Post by FMurtz

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by felix

I once badly needed a shit and went in the Mcdonald's in Dalston. The
negro behind the counter told me I'd have to buy something first,

why? did you announce you were going to the loo? just walk in like you
own the place and go straight to the loo. it's what we do in Oz

Same here, in the U.S. Pretty much all fast-food joints, and many real
restaurants, have the restrooms readily accessible from the entry door,
so there's no need to even talk to the cashiers. Except for the small
places, the restrooms are multi-use, so the doors aren't going to be
locked.

Weird.
What kind of strange people go around public places constantly in need of a
toilet?

Methinks you are an idiot,Many many people have problems, older people,
children and people who have just had surgery etc, hope you don'[t get old.

Or become a parent of small children or have an elderly parent or get
one of the many health issues that result in need for access to a
loo.... And of course it should immediately top eating and drinking as
both of those things also result in the need to access a dunny and that
need may not occur when one is at home but when one is out and about.

[johnny-knowall]

Post by FMurtz

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by felix

I once badly needed a shit and went in the Mcdonald's in Dalston. The
negro behind the counter told me I'd have to buy something first,

why? did you announce you were going to the loo? just walk in like you
own the place and go straight to the loo. it's what we do in Oz

Same here, in the U.S. Pretty much all fast-food joints, and many real
restaurants, have the restrooms readily accessible from the entry door,
so there's no need to even talk to the cashiers. Except for the small
places, the restrooms are multi-use, so the doors aren't going to be
locked.

Weird.
What kind of strange people go around public places constantly in need of a
toilet?

Methinks you are an idiot,Many many people have problems, older people,
children and people who have just had surgery etc, hope you don'[t get old.

I am old. Pay attention.

However, I do not feel the need to drink constantly when going out. It is
called forward planning.

You should try it sometime.

Drink only when you feel thirsty, and not when told to by some bogus medical
people who are financed by the bottled water companies.

Post by FMurtz

Post by johnny-knowall
Now I know that billions of sheeple have been brainwashed to believe that
they need to keep hydrated at all times, or else their body will cease to
function properly.
But, sadly, that is simply a very clever marketing ploy by the international
producers of bottled water.
I suppose that once they found they could persuade the minions that they must
carry a bottle of water with them at all times, despite the cost being far
higher than petrol, and that the stuff was free out of the taps; they knew
that brainwashing the population to believe anything else the authorities
required was just a piece of piss.
And now we have potentially sensible idiots running around constrained by an
almost constant desire for a piss or a shit.

[GB]

Post by johnny-knowall
I am old. Pay attention.
However, I do not feel the need to drink constantly when going out. It is
called forward planning.
You should try it sometime.
Drink only when you feel thirsty, and not when told to by some bogus medical
people who are financed by the bottled water companies.

I was on a diuretic for a while. That meant that, for around 3 hours
every morning, I needed to pee every 20 minutes, whether I drank
anything or not that morning. Afterwards, I was quite thirsty, of course.

The real question, as this is a legal group, is whether prostate
enlargement and the like qualify as a disability under the Equality Act?

[abelard]

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by FMurtz
Methinks you are an idiot,Many many people have problems, older people,
children and people who have just had surgery etc, hope you don'[t get old.

I am old.

that's what you say...i have you down as ~17

Post by johnny-knowall
Pay attention.
However, I do not feel the need to drink constantly when going out. It is
called forward planning.

dehydration can cause symptoms of mental confusion...do we
at last discover why you're a sandwich?

Post by johnny-knowall
You should try it sometime.
Drink only when you feel thirsty, and not when told to by some bogus medical
people who are financed by the bottled water companies.

is that who pays them and i thought it was the drug cartels

[Fran]

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by FMurtz

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by felix

I once badly needed a shit and went in the Mcdonald's in Dalston. The
negro behind the counter told me I'd have to buy something first,

why? did you announce you were going to the loo? just walk in like you
own the place and go straight to the loo. it's what we do in Oz

Same here, in the U.S. Pretty much all fast-food joints, and many real
restaurants, have the restrooms readily accessible from the entry door,
so there's no need to even talk to the cashiers. Except for the small
places, the restrooms are multi-use, so the doors aren't going to be
locked.

Weird.
What kind of strange people go around public places constantly in need of a
toilet?

Methinks you are an idiot,Many many people have problems, older people,
children and people who have just had surgery etc, hope you don'[t get old.

I am old. Pay attention.
However, I do not feel the need to drink constantly when going out. It is
called forward planning.
You should try it sometime.
Drink only when you feel thirsty, and not when told to by some bogus medical
people who are financed by the bottled water companies.

Good grief. An old bloke who is so fixated on bottle water company's
brain washing that he can't think of any need to use a loo other than
because of excess bottled water consumption!

[FMurtz]

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by FMurtz

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by felix

I once badly needed a shit and went in the Mcdonald's in Dalston. The
negro behind the counter told me I'd have to buy something first,

why? did you announce you were going to the loo? just walk in like you
own the place and go straight to the loo. it's what we do in Oz

Same here, in the U.S. Pretty much all fast-food joints, and many real
restaurants, have the restrooms readily accessible from the entry door,
so there's no need to even talk to the cashiers. Except for the small
places, the restrooms are multi-use, so the doors aren't going to be
locked.

Weird.
What kind of strange people go around public places constantly in need of a
toilet?

Methinks you are an idiot,Many many people have problems, older people,
children and people who have just had surgery etc, hope you don'[t get old.

I am old. Pay attention.
However, I do not feel the need to drink constantly when going out. It is
called forward planning.
You should try it sometime.
Drink only when you feel thirsty, and not when told to by some bogus medical
people who are financed by the bottled water companies.

Good grief.  An old bloke who is so fixated on bottle water company's
brain washing that he can't think of any need to use a loo other than
because of excess bottled water consumption!

As I said, methinks he is an idiot,(confirming it with each
utterance)has no comprehension as to many and varied reasons for needing loo

[Fran]

Post by FMurtz

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by FMurtz

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by felix

I once badly needed a shit and went in the Mcdonald's in Dalston. The
negro behind the counter told me I'd have to buy something first,

why? did you announce you were going to the loo? just walk in like you
own the place and go straight to the loo. it's what we do in Oz

Same here, in the U.S. Pretty much all fast-food joints, and many real
restaurants, have the restrooms readily accessible from the entry door,
so there's no need to even talk to the cashiers. Except for the small
places, the restrooms are multi-use, so the doors aren't going to be
locked.

Weird.
What kind of strange people go around public places constantly in need of a
toilet?

Methinks you are an idiot,Many many people have problems, older people,
children and people who have just had surgery etc, hope you don'[t get old.

I am old. Pay attention.
However, I do not feel the need to drink constantly when going out. It is
called forward planning.
You should try it sometime.
Drink only when you feel thirsty, and not when told to by some bogus medical
people who are financed by the bottled water companies.

Good grief.  An old bloke who is so fixated on bottle water company's
brain washing that he can't think of any need to use a loo other than
because of excess bottled water consumption!

As I said, methinks he is an idiot,(confirming it with each
utterance)has no comprehension as to many and varied reasons for needing loo

Yep. He is an idiot.

[Fran]

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by felix

I once badly needed a shit and went in the Mcdonald's in Dalston. The
negro behind the counter told me I'd have to buy something first,

why? did you announce you were going to the loo? just walk in like you
own the place and go straight to the loo. it's what we do in Oz

Same here, in the U.S. Pretty much all fast-food joints, and many real
restaurants, have the restrooms readily accessible from the entry door,
so there's no need to even talk to the cashiers. Except for the small
places, the restrooms are multi-use, so the doors aren't going to be
locked.

Weird.
What kind of strange people go around public places constantly in need of a
toilet?

Have you heard of colorectal cancer? Have you heard of heard of
childbirth? Have you heard of old age? Have you heard of prostate cancer?

If you can't figure out how any of these very few things relate to the
need for easy access to a toilet, then you need to get out more.

Post by johnny-knowall
And now we have potentially sensible idiots running around constrained by an
almost constant desire for a piss or a shit.

There is certainly one idiot who has such limited capacity to think
about health issues and merely sees the need for a toilet as being
related to advertising hype.

[johnny-knowall]

Post by Fran

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by felix

I once badly needed a shit and went in the Mcdonald's in Dalston. The
negro behind the counter told me I'd have to buy something first,

why? did you announce you were going to the loo? just walk in like you
own the place and go straight to the loo. it's what we do in Oz

Same here, in the U.S. Pretty much all fast-food joints, and many real
restaurants, have the restrooms readily accessible from the entry door,
so there's no need to even talk to the cashiers. Except for the small
places, the restrooms are multi-use, so the doors aren't going to be
locked.

Weird.
What kind of strange people go around public places constantly in need of a
toilet?

Have you heard of colorectal cancer?

Yes thanks. My father has that - but he doesn’t spend his entire life in
need of the toilet.

Post by Fran
Have you heard of heard of childbirth?

Yes thanks, my wife had plenty - but she doesn’t spend the whole time in
need of a piss.

Post by Fran
Have you heard of old age?

I am old.

Post by Fran
Have you heard of prostate cancer?

Yes thanks, but from talking to the friends who have suffered that ailment
and survived (so far) their biggest problem was not the frequency but the
inability to pee at all, even with a full bladder.

Post by Fran
If you can't figure out how any of these very few things relate to the
need for easy access to a toilet, then you need to get out more.

Not you as well. Are you cliche ridden folk being cloned in a bunker
somewhere?

Post by Fran

Post by johnny-knowall
And now we have potentially sensible idiots running around constrained by an
almost constant desire for a piss or a shit.

There is certainly one idiot who has such limited capacity to think
about health issues and merely sees the need for a toilet as being
related to advertising hype.

How many people did you see carrying bottles of water in the 1970s/80s?

If it was not advertising hype, how have UK sales of bottled water now
reached 3 billion litres a year?

The more you pour in, the more will need to come back out.

[Lions Growl of Butchers Foul]

Post by johnny-knowall
How many people did you see carrying bottles of water in the 1970s/80s?
If it was not advertising hype, how have UK sales of bottled water now
reached 3 billion litres a year?
The more you pour in, the more will need to come back out.

Oh goody, are we back onto immigration now?

[GB]

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by Fran
Have you heard of prostate cancer?

Yes thanks, but from talking to the friends who have suffered that ailment
and survived (so far) their biggest problem was not the frequency but the
inability to pee at all, even with a full bladder.

The real issue from a practical point of view of needing the toilet is
the inability to *empty* the bladder. Same applies to BPH. Typically,
the patients can pee a bit, but the bladder remains up to 75% full.
Fairly obviously, that means they need to pee up to four times as often
as someone without that problem.

However, that's only part of the problem. The urine retained in the
bladder starts to generate ammonia, which causes inflammation. This in
turn causes great urgency when it comes to peeing.

Do feel free to spout your views, but there is plenty of information
available should you choose to read it.

[johnny-knowall]

Post by GB

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by Fran
Have you heard of prostate cancer?

Yes thanks, but from talking to the friends who have suffered that ailment
and survived (so far) their biggest problem was not the frequency but the
inability to pee at all, even with a full bladder.

The real issue from a practical point of view of needing the toilet is
the inability to *empty* the bladder. Same applies to BPH. Typically,
the patients can pee a bit, but the bladder remains up to 75% full.
Fairly obviously, that means they need to pee up to four times as often
as someone without that problem.
However, that's only part of the problem. The urine retained in the
bladder starts to generate ammonia, which causes inflammation. This in
turn causes great urgency when it comes to peeing.
Do feel free to spout your views, but there is plenty of information
available should you choose to read it.

My views are a result of conversations with my brother, who has now had a
very successful operation.

What I find on usenet, are a majority of point scoring individuals who
believe that no one has as much authority to patronise others on every
subject, as they do.

[GB]

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by GB

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by Fran
Have you heard of prostate cancer?

Yes thanks, but from talking to the friends who have suffered that ailment
and survived (so far) their biggest problem was not the frequency but the
inability to pee at all, even with a full bladder.

The real issue from a practical point of view of needing the toilet is
the inability to *empty* the bladder. Same applies to BPH. Typically,
the patients can pee a bit, but the bladder remains up to 75% full.
Fairly obviously, that means they need to pee up to four times as often
as someone without that problem.
However, that's only part of the problem. The urine retained in the
bladder starts to generate ammonia, which causes inflammation. This in
turn causes great urgency when it comes to peeing.
Do feel free to spout your views, but there is plenty of information
available should you choose to read it.

My views are a result of conversations with my brother, who has now had a
very successful operation.
What I find on usenet, are a majority of point scoring individuals who
believe that no one has as much authority to patronise others on every
subject, as they do.

That's very true, and I apologise if I have offended. However, urgent
access to toilets is very important for some people, and your
down-playing of that is really quite offensive. In particular, your
dismissal of the issue with 'do not drink then you will not need to pee'
is quite frankly extremely patronising.

[johnny-knowall]

Post by GB

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by GB

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by Fran
Have you heard of prostate cancer?

Yes thanks, but from talking to the friends who have suffered that ailment
and survived (so far) their biggest problem was not the frequency but the
inability to pee at all, even with a full bladder.

The real issue from a practical point of view of needing the toilet is
the inability to *empty* the bladder. Same applies to BPH. Typically,
the patients can pee a bit, but the bladder remains up to 75% full.
Fairly obviously, that means they need to pee up to four times as often
as someone without that problem.
However, that's only part of the problem. The urine retained in the
bladder starts to generate ammonia, which causes inflammation. This in
turn causes great urgency when it comes to peeing.
Do feel free to spout your views, but there is plenty of information
available should you choose to read it.

My views are a result of conversations with my brother, who has now had a
very successful operation.
What I find on usenet, are a majority of point scoring individuals who
believe that no one has as much authority to patronise others on every
subject, as they do.

That's very true, and I apologise if I have offended. However, urgent
access to toilets is very important for some people, and your
down-playing of that is really quite offensive. In particular, your
dismissal of the issue with 'do not drink then you will not need to pee'
is quite frankly extremely patronising.

It works for me, and for many other people I know.

In days gone by it was known as using common sense; but if you are offended
by that idea then I’m afraid there is little that can be done.

[Fran]

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by GB

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by GB

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by Fran
Have you heard of prostate cancer?

Yes thanks, but from talking to the friends who have suffered that ailment
and survived (so far) their biggest problem was not the frequency but the
inability to pee at all, even with a full bladder.

The real issue from a practical point of view of needing the toilet is
the inability to *empty* the bladder. Same applies to BPH. Typically,
the patients can pee a bit, but the bladder remains up to 75% full.
Fairly obviously, that means they need to pee up to four times as often
as someone without that problem.
However, that's only part of the problem. The urine retained in the
bladder starts to generate ammonia, which causes inflammation. This in
turn causes great urgency when it comes to peeing.
Do feel free to spout your views, but there is plenty of information
available should you choose to read it.

My views are a result of conversations with my brother, who has now had a
very successful operation.
What I find on usenet, are a majority of point scoring individuals who
believe that no one has as much authority to patronise others on every
subject, as they do.

That's very true, and I apologise if I have offended. However, urgent
access to toilets is very important for some people, and your
down-playing of that is really quite offensive. In particular, your
dismissal of the issue with 'do not drink then you will not need to pee'
is quite frankly extremely patronising.

It works for me, and for many other people I know.

Why do you assume that your experience will work for others? It's
patronising to think that just because you say that something works for
you, it must work for others.

Post by johnny-knowall
In days gone by it was known as using common sense; but if you are offended
by that idea then I’m afraid there is little that can be done.

It is not common sense to be fixated on bottled water and nor is it
common sense to assume that people only need to use the toilet because
of bottled water consumption nor is it common sense to assume that
others are being patronising but that you are not being patronising.

[SG1]

Post by Fran

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by GB

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by GB

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by Fran
Have you heard of prostate cancer?

Yes thanks, but from talking to the friends who have suffered that ailment
and survived (so far) their biggest problem was not the frequency but the
inability to pee at all, even with a full bladder.

The real issue from a practical point of view of needing the toilet is
the inability to *empty* the bladder. Same applies to BPH. Typically,
the patients can pee a bit, but the bladder remains up to 75% full.
Fairly obviously, that means they need to pee up to four times as often
as someone without that problem.
However, that's only part of the problem. The urine retained in the
bladder starts to generate ammonia, which causes inflammation. This in
turn causes great urgency when it comes to peeing.
Do feel free to spout your views, but there is plenty of information
available should you choose to read it.

My views are a result of conversations with my brother, who has now had a
very successful operation.
What I find on usenet, are a majority of point scoring individuals who
believe that no one has as much authority to patronise others on every
subject, as they do.

That's very true, and I apologise if I have offended. However, urgent
access to toilets is very important for some people, and your
down-playing of that is really quite offensive. In particular, your
dismissal of the issue with 'do not drink then you will not need to pee'
is quite frankly extremely patronising.

It works for me, and for many other people I know.

Why do you assume that your experience will work for others? It's
patronising to think that just because you say that something works for
you, it must work for others.

Post by johnny-knowall
In days gone by it was known as using common sense; but if you are offended
by that idea then I’m afraid there is little that can be done.

It is not common sense to be fixated on bottled water and nor is it common
sense to assume that people only need to use the toilet because of bottled
water consumption nor is it common sense to assume that others are being
patronising but that you are not being patronising.

It is the diuretics the water companies sneek into their product, this
confuses
some and causes leaching of brain material in certain people that only use 2
characters for their sig.

[Fran]

Post by SG1

Post by Fran

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by GB

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by GB

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by Fran
Have you heard of prostate cancer?

Yes thanks, but from talking to the friends who have suffered that ailment
and survived (so far) their biggest problem was not the frequency but the
inability to pee at all, even with a full bladder.

The real issue from a practical point of view of needing the toilet is
the inability to *empty* the bladder. Same applies to BPH. Typically,
the patients can pee a bit, but the bladder remains up to 75% full.
Fairly obviously, that means they need to pee up to four times as often
as someone without that problem.
However, that's only part of the problem. The urine retained in the
bladder starts to generate ammonia, which causes inflammation. This in
turn causes great urgency when it comes to peeing.
Do feel free to spout your views, but there is plenty of information
available should you choose to read it.

My views are a result of conversations with my brother, who has now had a
very successful operation.
What I find on usenet, are a majority of point scoring individuals who
believe that no one has as much authority to patronise others on every
subject, as they do.

That's very true, and I apologise if I have offended. However, urgent
access to toilets is very important for some people, and your
down-playing of that is really quite offensive. In particular, your
dismissal of the issue with 'do not drink then you will not need to pee'
is quite frankly extremely patronising.

It works for me, and for many other people I know.

Why do you assume that your experience will work for others? It's
patronising to think that just because you say that something works
for you, it must work for others.

Post by johnny-knowall
In days gone by it was known as using common sense; but if you are offended
by that idea then I’m afraid there is little that can be done.

It is not common sense to be fixated on bottled water and nor is it
common sense to assume that people only need to use the toilet because
of bottled water consumption nor is it common sense to assume that
others are being patronising but that you are not being patronising.

It is the diuretics the water companies sneek into their product, this
confuses
some and causes leaching of brain material in certain people that only use 2
characters for their sig.

I think you've got it arse about as to who it is that has suffered the
brain leaching. Surely the brain leaching has occurred in those who
don't drink bottled water but who pontificate that it must only be those
who do drink bottled water who need access to toilets?

[johnny-knowall]

Post by SG1

Post by Fran

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by GB

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by GB

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by Fran
Have you heard of prostate cancer?

Yes thanks, but from talking to the friends who have suffered that
ailment
and survived (so far) their biggest problem was not the frequency but
the
inability to pee at all, even with a full bladder.

The real issue from a practical point of view of needing the toilet is
the inability to *empty* the bladder. Same applies to BPH. Typically,
the patients can pee a bit, but the bladder remains up to 75% full.
Fairly obviously, that means they need to pee up to four times as often
as someone without that problem.
However, that's only part of the problem. The urine retained in the
bladder starts to generate ammonia, which causes inflammation. This in
turn causes great urgency when it comes to peeing.
Do feel free to spout your views, but there is plenty of information
available should you choose to read it.

My views are a result of conversations with my brother, who has now had a
very successful operation.
What I find on usenet, are a majority of point scoring individuals who
believe that no one has as much authority to patronise others on every
subject, as they do.

That's very true, and I apologise if I have offended. However, urgent
access to toilets is very important for some people, and your
down-playing of that is really quite offensive. In particular, your
dismissal of the issue with 'do not drink then you will not need to pee'
is quite frankly extremely patronising.

It works for me, and for many other people I know.

Why do you assume that your experience will work for others? It's
patronising to think that just because you say that something works for
you, it must work for others.

Post by johnny-knowall
In days gone by it was known as using common sense; but if you are offended
by that idea then I’m afraid there is little that can be done.

It is not common sense to be fixated on bottled water and nor is it common
sense to assume that people only need to use the toilet because of bottled
water consumption nor is it common sense to assume that others are being
patronising but that you are not being patronising.

It is the diuretics the water companies sneek into their product, this
confuses
some and causes leaching of brain material in certain people that only use 2
characters for their sig.

Oh no, and I thought kill-filing the bottled water junkies had got rid of
them.

They are all too dim to see the progression... first it is bottled water,
then it is bottled political party fake news, finally it is bottled
subservience to their internet masters.

Mind you, they can’t say they haven’t been warned....

[GB]

Post by johnny-knowall
It works for me, and for many other people I know.

That's excellent, and I hope you don't get prostate cancer or even just
BPH, so you can find out whether it still works for you. Until then,
your experience is of no value at all.

Post by johnny-knowall
In days gone by it was known as using common sense; but if you are offended
by that idea then I’m afraid there is little that can be done.

You seem to be unable to distinguish between common sense and ignorance.
I hope you're not offended by that summing up?

[johnny-knowall]

Post by GB

Post by johnny-knowall
It works for me, and for many other people I know.

That's excellent, and I hope you don't get prostate cancer or even just
BPH, so you can find out whether it still works for you. Until then,
your experience is of no value at all.

Post by johnny-knowall
In days gone by it was known as using common sense; but if you are offended
by that idea then I’m afraid there is little that can be done.

You seem to be unable to distinguish between common sense and ignorance.
I hope you're not offended by that summing up?

Doesn’t bother me.

Just keep posing in public with your bottle of water, and pissing your pants
in the street.

[Fran]

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by GB

Post by johnny-knowall
It works for me, and for many other people I know.

That's excellent, and I hope you don't get prostate cancer or even just
BPH, so you can find out whether it still works for you. Until then,
your experience is of no value at all.

Post by johnny-knowall
In days gone by it was known as using common sense; but if you are offended
by that idea then I’m afraid there is little that can be done.

You seem to be unable to distinguish between common sense and ignorance.
I hope you're not offended by that summing up?

Doesn’t bother me.
Just keep posing in public with your bottle of water, and pissing your pants
in the street.

That idiot comment further confirms your ignorance and lack of common
sense.

GB has not mentioned drinking bottled water. Nor has GB mentioned
[pissing in his pants in the street. Those are your assumptions. GB has
tried to get through to you that there can be reasons other than
drinking bottled water that require people to need toilets.

[Incubus]

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by Fran
Have you heard of prostate cancer?

Yes thanks, but from talking to the friends who have suffered that ailment
and survived (so far) their biggest problem was not the frequency but the
inability to pee at all, even with a full bladder.

The real issue from a practical point of view of needing the toilet is the
inability to *empty* the bladder. Same applies to BPH. Typically, the
patients can pee a bit, but the bladder remains up to 75% full. Fairly
obviously, that means they need to pee up to four times as often as someone
without that problem.
However, that's only part of the problem. The urine retained in the bladder
starts to generate ammonia, which causes inflammation. This in turn causes
great urgency when it comes to peeing.
Do feel free to spout your views, but there is plenty of information
available should you choose to read it.

My views are a result of conversations with my brother, who has now had a
very successful operation.
What I find on usenet, are a majority of point scoring individuals who
believe that no one has as much authority to patronise others on every
subject, as they do.

That's very true, and I apologise if I have offended. However, urgent access
to toilets is very important for some people, and your down-playing of that
is really quite offensive. In particular, your dismissal of the issue with
'do not drink then you will not need to pee' is quite frankly extremely
patronising.

He is being extremely ableist, positively basking in the able-bodied privilege
which his post exudes.

But what say you about those who are accustomed to excessive caffeine
consumption or alcoholism? Surely they should also count under the Equality
Act?

I recall a friend I used to have who once staggered onto a train in a drunken
stupour and slumped into one of the 'priority seats', to the disgust of a woman
who wanted to sit down. I helpfully pointed out that the seats are reserved
for those who are 'less able to stand', but she wasn't best pleased.

[Fran]

Post by Incubus

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by Fran
Have you heard of prostate cancer?

Yes thanks, but from talking to the friends who have suffered that ailment
and survived (so far) their biggest problem was not the frequency but the
inability to pee at all, even with a full bladder.

The real issue from a practical point of view of needing the toilet is the
inability to *empty* the bladder. Same applies to BPH. Typically, the
patients can pee a bit, but the bladder remains up to 75% full. Fairly
obviously, that means they need to pee up to four times as often as someone
without that problem.
However, that's only part of the problem. The urine retained in the bladder
starts to generate ammonia, which causes inflammation. This in turn causes
great urgency when it comes to peeing.
Do feel free to spout your views, but there is plenty of information
available should you choose to read it.

My views are a result of conversations with my brother, who has now had a
very successful operation.
What I find on usenet, are a majority of point scoring individuals who
believe that no one has as much authority to patronise others on every
subject, as they do.

That's very true, and I apologise if I have offended. However, urgent access
to toilets is very important for some people, and your down-playing of that
is really quite offensive. In particular, your dismissal of the issue with
'do not drink then you will not need to pee' is quite frankly extremely
patronising.

He is being extremely ableist, positively basking in the able-bodied privilege
which his post exudes.

Alternatively, he could be trolling, thick as a brick or any number of
other possibilities. He certainly seems to be fixated on bottled water.

Post by Incubus
But what say you about those who are accustomed to excessive caffeine
consumption or alcoholism? Surely they should also count under the Equality
Act?
I recall a friend I used to have who once staggered onto a train in a drunken
stupour and slumped into one of the 'priority seats', to the disgust of a woman
who wanted to sit down. I helpfully pointed out that the seats are reserved
for those who are 'less able to stand', but she wasn't best pleased.

LOL.

[GB]

Post by Incubus
He is being extremely ableist, positively basking in the able-bodied privilege
which his post exudes.

I assume he just wants the attention.

Post by Incubus
But what say you about those who are accustomed to excessive caffeine
consumption or alcoholism? Surely they should also count under the Equality
Act?

"Definition of disability under the Equality Act 2010. You're disabled
under the Equality Act 2010 if you have a physical or mental impairment
that has a 'substantial' and 'long-term' negative effect on your ability
to do normal daily activities. The Equality Act 2010 doesn't apply to
Northern Ireland."

Does getting pissed all the time count?

Post by Incubus
I recall a friend I used to have who once staggered onto a train in a drunken
stupour and slumped into one of the 'priority seats', to the disgust of a woman
who wanted to sit down. I helpfully pointed out that the seats are reserved
for those who are 'less able to stand', but she wasn't best pleased.

[Incubus]

Post by GB

Post by Incubus
He is being extremely ableist, positively basking in the able-bodied privilege
which his post exudes.

I assume he just wants the attention.

Post by Incubus
But what say you about those who are accustomed to excessive caffeine
consumption or alcoholism? Surely they should also count under the Equality
Act?

"Definition of disability under the Equality Act 2010. You're disabled
under the Equality Act 2010 if you have a physical or mental impairment
that has a 'substantial' and 'long-term' negative effect on your ability
to do normal daily activities. The Equality Act 2010 doesn't apply to
Northern Ireland."
Does getting pissed all the time count?

It's a disease accoring to the WHO and the DMS-V.

[Fran]

Post by GB

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by GB

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by Fran
Have you heard of prostate cancer?

Yes thanks, but from talking to the friends who have suffered that ailment
and survived (so far) their biggest problem was not the frequency but the
inability to pee at all, even with a full bladder.

The real issue from a practical point of view of needing the toilet is
the inability to *empty* the bladder. Same applies to BPH. Typically,
the patients can pee a bit, but the bladder remains up to 75% full.
Fairly obviously, that means they need to pee up to four times as often
as someone without that problem.
However, that's only part of the problem. The urine retained in the
bladder starts to generate ammonia, which causes inflammation. This in
turn causes great urgency when it comes to peeing.
Do feel free to spout your views, but there is plenty of information
available should you choose to read it.

My views are a result of conversations with my brother, who has now had a
very successful operation.
What I find on usenet, are a majority of point scoring individuals who
believe that no one has as much authority to patronise others on every
subject, as they do.

That's very true, and I apologise if I have offended. However, urgent
access to toilets is very important for some people, and your
down-playing of that is really quite offensive. In particular, your
dismissal of the issue with 'do not drink then you will not need to pee'
is quite frankly extremely patronising.

Yep.

[abelard]

Post by johnny-knowall
What I find on usenet, are a majority of point scoring individuals who
believe that no one has as much authority to patronise others on every
subject, as they do.

most people have the authority to 'patronise' you missis

[Fran]

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by GB

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by Fran
Have you heard of prostate cancer?

Yes thanks, but from talking to the friends who have suffered that ailment
and survived (so far) their biggest problem was not the frequency but the
inability to pee at all, even with a full bladder.

The real issue from a practical point of view of needing the toilet is
the inability to *empty* the bladder. Same applies to BPH. Typically,
the patients can pee a bit, but the bladder remains up to 75% full.
Fairly obviously, that means they need to pee up to four times as often
as someone without that problem.
However, that's only part of the problem. The urine retained in the
bladder starts to generate ammonia, which causes inflammation. This in
turn causes great urgency when it comes to peeing.
Do feel free to spout your views, but there is plenty of information
available should you choose to read it.

My views are a result of conversations with my brother, who has now had a
very successful operation.

You spoke to one person who has had prostate cancer!

Post by johnny-knowall
What I find on usenet, are a majority of point scoring individuals who
believe that no one has as much authority to patronise others on every
subject, as they do.

Snort!

[johnny-knowall]

Post by Fran

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by GB

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by Fran
Have you heard of prostate cancer?

Yes thanks, but from talking to the friends who have suffered that ailment
and survived (so far) their biggest problem was not the frequency but the
inability to pee at all, even with a full bladder.

The real issue from a practical point of view of needing the toilet is
the inability to *empty* the bladder. Same applies to BPH. Typically,
the patients can pee a bit, but the bladder remains up to 75% full.
Fairly obviously, that means they need to pee up to four times as often
as someone without that problem.
However, that's only part of the problem. The urine retained in the
bladder starts to generate ammonia, which causes inflammation. This in
turn causes great urgency when it comes to peeing.
Do feel free to spout your views, but there is plenty of information
available should you choose to read it.

My views are a result of conversations with my brother, who has now had a
very successful operation.

You spoke to one person who has had prostate cancer!

Post by johnny-knowall
What I find on usenet, are a majority of point scoring individuals who
believe that no one has as much authority to patronise others on every
subject, as they do.

Snort!

At last, your veneer has slipped - your inner self is trying to get out.

[Fran]

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by Fran

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by GB

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by Fran
Have you heard of prostate cancer?

Yes thanks, but from talking to the friends who have suffered that ailment
and survived (so far) their biggest problem was not the frequency but the
inability to pee at all, even with a full bladder.

The real issue from a practical point of view of needing the toilet is
the inability to *empty* the bladder. Same applies to BPH. Typically,
the patients can pee a bit, but the bladder remains up to 75% full.
Fairly obviously, that means they need to pee up to four times as often
as someone without that problem.
However, that's only part of the problem. The urine retained in the
bladder starts to generate ammonia, which causes inflammation. This in
turn causes great urgency when it comes to peeing.
Do feel free to spout your views, but there is plenty of information
available should you choose to read it.

My views are a result of conversations with my brother, who has now had a
very successful operation.

You spoke to one person who has had prostate cancer!

Post by johnny-knowall
What I find on usenet, are a majority of point scoring individuals who
believe that no one has as much authority to patronise others on every
subject, as they do.

Snort!

At last, your veneer has slipped - your inner self is trying to get out.

Sheesh, you are slow. The last paragraph of my first response to you
should have told you that I too thought you were an idiot.

[GB]

Post by Fran

Post by johnny-knowall
My views are a result of conversations with my brother, who has now had a
very successful operation.

You spoke to one person who has had prostate cancer!

One person who possibly had his prostate removed, so now can pee like a
teenager again.

[Fran]

Post by GB

Post by Fran

Post by johnny-knowall
My views are a result of conversations with my brother, who has now had a
very successful operation.

You spoke to one person who has had prostate cancer!

One person who possibly had his prostate removed, so now can pee like a
teenager again.

Yes. And was fortunate to not suffer the post operative complications
of bleeding or pain or constant feeling of the need to pee or any of the
other really nasty side effects.

[FMurtz]

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by GB

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by Fran
Have you heard of prostate cancer?

Yes thanks, but from talking to the friends who have suffered that ailment
and survived (so far) their biggest problem was not the frequency but the
inability to pee at all, even with a full bladder.

The real issue from a practical point of view of needing the toilet is
the inability to *empty* the bladder. Same applies to BPH. Typically,
the patients can pee a bit, but the bladder remains up to 75% full.
Fairly obviously, that means they need to pee up to four times as often
as someone without that problem.
However, that's only part of the problem. The urine retained in the
bladder starts to generate ammonia, which causes inflammation. This in
turn causes great urgency when it comes to peeing.
Do feel free to spout your views, but there is plenty of information
available should you choose to read it.

My views are a result of conversations with my brother, who has now had a
very successful operation.
What I find on usenet, are a majority of point scoring individuals who
believe that no one has as much authority to patronise others on every
subject, as they do.

And have an inability to suffer uneducated idiots gladly.

[abelard]

Post by GB

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by Fran
Have you heard of prostate cancer?

Yes thanks, but from talking to the friends who have suffered that ailment
and survived (so far) their biggest problem was not the frequency but the
inability to pee at all, even with a full bladder.

The real issue from a practical point of view of needing the toilet is
the inability to *empty* the bladder. Same applies to BPH. Typically,
the patients can pee a bit, but the bladder remains up to 75% full.
Fairly obviously, that means they need to pee up to four times as often
as someone without that problem.

there's now a drug for that

Post by GB
However, that's only part of the problem. The urine retained in the
bladder starts to generate ammonia, which causes inflammation. This in
turn causes great urgency when it comes to peeing.

infection is also common

Post by GB
Do feel free to spout your views, but there is plenty of information
available should you choose to read it.

she prefer you do that for her

[Fran]

Post by GB

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by Fran
Have you heard of prostate cancer?

Yes thanks, but from talking to the friends who have suffered that ailment
and survived (so far) their biggest problem was not the frequency but the
inability to pee at all, even with a full bladder.

The real issue from a practical point of view of needing the toilet is
the inability to *empty* the bladder. Same applies to BPH. Typically,
the patients can pee a bit, but the bladder remains up to 75% full.
Fairly obviously, that means they need to pee up to four times as often
as someone without that problem.
However, that's only part of the problem. The urine retained in the
bladder starts to generate ammonia, which causes inflammation. This in
turn causes great urgency when it comes to peeing.
Do feel free to spout your views, but there is plenty of information
available should you choose to read it.

He won't.

[johnny-knowall]

Post by Fran

Post by GB

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by Fran
Have you heard of prostate cancer?

Yes thanks, but from talking to the friends who have suffered that ailment
and survived (so far) their biggest problem was not the frequency but the
inability to pee at all, even with a full bladder.

The real issue from a practical point of view of needing the toilet is
the inability to *empty* the bladder. Same applies to BPH. Typically,
the patients can pee a bit, but the bladder remains up to 75% full.
Fairly obviously, that means they need to pee up to four times as often
as someone without that problem.
However, that's only part of the problem. The urine retained in the
bladder starts to generate ammonia, which causes inflammation. This in
turn causes great urgency when it comes to peeing.
Do feel free to spout your views, but there is plenty of information
available should you choose to read it.

He won't.

And you will be unable to read this -

http://theconversation.com/bottled-water-is-the-marketing-trick-of-the-
century-25842

[FMurtz]

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by Fran

Post by GB

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by Fran
Have you heard of prostate cancer?

Yes thanks, but from talking to the friends who have suffered that ailment
and survived (so far) their biggest problem was not the frequency but the
inability to pee at all, even with a full bladder.

The real issue from a practical point of view of needing the toilet is
the inability to *empty* the bladder. Same applies to BPH. Typically,
the patients can pee a bit, but the bladder remains up to 75% full.
Fairly obviously, that means they need to pee up to four times as often
as someone without that problem.
However, that's only part of the problem. The urine retained in the
bladder starts to generate ammonia, which causes inflammation. This in
turn causes great urgency when it comes to peeing.
Do feel free to spout your views, but there is plenty of information
available should you choose to read it.

He won't.

And you will be unable to read this -
http://theconversation.com/bottled-water-is-the-marketing-trick-of-the-
century-25842

Why should I want to read this,as far as I am concerned I already know
that bottled water is one of the greatest scams perpetrated on blind
followers of advertising by people who act like sheep but this has
nothing to do with the need for loos.
Almost none of the older people, or infirm, or have medical problems or
small children are yuppie water bottle carriers

[Fran]

Post by FMurtz

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by Fran

Post by GB

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by Fran
Have you heard of prostate cancer?

Yes thanks, but from talking to the friends who have suffered that ailment
and survived (so far) their biggest problem was not the frequency but the
inability to pee at all, even with a full bladder.

The real issue from a practical point of view of needing the toilet is
the inability to *empty* the bladder. Same applies to BPH. Typically,
the patients can pee a bit, but the bladder remains up to 75% full.
Fairly obviously, that means they need to pee up to four times as often
as someone without that problem.
However, that's only part of the problem. The urine retained in the
bladder starts to generate ammonia, which causes inflammation. This in
turn causes great urgency when it comes to peeing.
Do feel free to spout your views, but there is plenty of information
available should you choose to read it.

He won't.

And you will be unable to read this -
http://theconversation.com/bottled-water-is-the-marketing-trick-of-the-
century-25842

Why should I want to read this,as far as I am concerned I already know
that bottled water is one of the greatest scams perpetrated on blind
followers of advertising by people who act like sheep but this has
nothing to do with the need for loos.
Almost none of the older people, or infirm, or have medical problems or
small children are yuppie water bottle carriers

Indeed!

[Fran]

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by Fran

Post by GB

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by Fran
Have you heard of prostate cancer?

Yes thanks, but from talking to the friends who have suffered that ailment
and survived (so far) their biggest problem was not the frequency but the
inability to pee at all, even with a full bladder.

The real issue from a practical point of view of needing the toilet is
the inability to *empty* the bladder. Same applies to BPH. Typically,
the patients can pee a bit, but the bladder remains up to 75% full.
Fairly obviously, that means they need to pee up to four times as often
as someone without that problem.
However, that's only part of the problem. The urine retained in the
bladder starts to generate ammonia, which causes inflammation. This in
turn causes great urgency when it comes to peeing.
Do feel free to spout your views, but there is plenty of information
available should you choose to read it.

He won't.

And you will be unable to read this -
http://theconversation.com/bottled-water-is-the-marketing-trick-of-the-
century-25842

I KNOW that bottled water is a con!!!!

Your fixation on bottled water and your inability to see any other need
for people to use toilets other than your stupid assumption that toilet
need is ONLY die to bottle water buying, is a dead give away that you
are an idiot.

[abelard]

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by Fran
Have you heard of prostate cancer?

Yes thanks, but from talking to the friends who have suffered that ailment
and survived (so far) their biggest problem was not the frequency but the
inability to pee at all, even with a full bladder.

after radiation the other end can give out

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by Fran
There is certainly one idiot who has such limited capacity to think
about health issues and merely sees the need for a toilet as being
related to advertising hype.

How many people did you see carrying bottles of water in the 1970s/80s?

snowflakes hadn't been invented then

[Fran]

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by Fran

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by felix

I once badly needed a shit and went in the Mcdonald's in Dalston. The
negro behind the counter told me I'd have to buy something first,

why? did you announce you were going to the loo? just walk in like you
own the place and go straight to the loo. it's what we do in Oz

Same here, in the U.S. Pretty much all fast-food joints, and many real
restaurants, have the restrooms readily accessible from the entry door,
so there's no need to even talk to the cashiers. Except for the small
places, the restrooms are multi-use, so the doors aren't going to be
locked.

Weird.
What kind of strange people go around public places constantly in need of a
toilet?

Have you heard of colorectal cancer?

Yes thanks. My father has that - but he doesn’t spend his entire life in
need of the toilet.

So does Daddy lives with you? If not, how do you know his daily toilet
habits? Does he have a colostomy bag. Others, without a bag, and with
various operative solutions DO need to constantly know the nearest
location of a loo, need to be able to access them in haste and do so
frequently.

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by Fran
Have you heard of heard of childbirth?

Yes thanks, my wife had plenty - but she doesn’t spend the whole time in
need of a piss.

LOL. I'm sure you'd have no idea of what her continence issues are just
as you clearly had no idea that at some stage she would have had to take
small children (lots of them according to you) to toilets. Unlike you,
she would know that small children can't wait and lack control. that
some problem suffered by small children applies equally to anyone with
incontinence issues. Your dear sainted wife would be very unusual if
she has had no impact on her bladder after production of those plenty
children she produced.

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by Fran
Have you heard of old age?

I am old.

Well sadly, like stupid, that can't be fixed. But if you're old, your
daddy must be super ancient.

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by Fran
Have you heard of prostate cancer?

Yes thanks, but from talking to the friends who have suffered that ailment
and survived (so far) their biggest problem was not the frequency but the
inability to pee at all, even with a full bladder.

LOL. Do stop being a fantasist! Have a conversation with real people
who have had prostate cancer and not imaginary friends. Ask them about
what symptoms they had before diagnosis and you'll find that many
suffered from frequency of need to pee and even if they couldn't produce
pee when they tried, they still went to the loo. They didn't whip out
their willy in the middle of the street and stand there straining to
push out a few drops. Ask what happened after surgery and/or radiation,
urge incontinence, leakage. All of those are common in blokes who've
had prostate cancer and had treatment for it.

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by Fran
If you can't figure out how any of these very few things relate to the
need for easy access to a toilet, then you need to get out more.

Not you as well. Are you cliche ridden folk being cloned in a bunker
somewhere?

Thankfully that bunker includes people who can see beyond your fixation
with bottled water companies and your very limited life experiences

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by Fran

Post by johnny-knowall
And now we have potentially sensible idiots running around constrained by an
almost constant desire for a piss or a shit.

There is certainly one idiot who has such limited capacity to think
about health issues and merely sees the need for a toilet as being
related to advertising hype.

How many people did you see carrying bottles of water in the 1970s/80s?

None. But that has nothing to do with the need to use toilets then or now.

Post by johnny-knowall
If it was not advertising hype, how have UK sales of bottled water now
reached 3 billion litres a year?
The more you pour in, the more will need to come back out.

And what was the consumption of tea in the 1970/80s? Or are you
claiming that people didn't use toilets then?

[johnny-knowall]

Post by Fran

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by Fran

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by felix

I once badly needed a shit and went in the Mcdonald's in Dalston.
The
negro behind the counter told me I'd have to buy something first,

why? did you announce you were going to the loo? just walk in like you
own the place and go straight to the loo. it's what we do in Oz

Same here, in the U.S. Pretty much all fast-food joints, and many real
restaurants, have the restrooms readily accessible from the entry door,
so there's no need to even talk to the cashiers. Except for the small
places, the restrooms are multi-use, so the doors aren't going to be
locked.

Weird.
What kind of strange people go around public places constantly in need of a
toilet?

Have you heard of colorectal cancer?

Yes thanks. My father has that - but he doesn’t spend his entire life in
need of the toilet.

So does Daddy lives with you?

Aha... Mr super intelligent has taken the bait.

No daddy doesn’t live with me.

Post by Fran
If not, how do you know his daily toilet
habits?

Because I have installed an HD CCTV camera in his toilet and linked it to the
internet, where I can watch on a 72 inch TV screen in my living room.

Post by Fran
Does he have a colostomy bag.

No.

Post by Fran
Others, without a bag, and with
various operative solutions DO need to constantly know the nearest
location of a loo, need to be able to access them in haste and do so
frequently.

He doesn’t.

Post by Fran

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by Fran
Have you heard of heard of childbirth?

Yes thanks, my wife had plenty - but she doesn’t spend the whole time in
need of a piss.

LOL. I'm sure you'd have no idea of what her continence issues

Believe me, I do.

Post by Fran
are just
as you clearly had no idea that at some stage she would have had to take
small children (lots of them according to you

So, Mr Vastly Superior Intelligence no doubts I have any children.

Post by Fran
) to toilets.

I did that, mostly. She was at work.

Post by Fran
Unlike you,
she would know that small children can't wait

Yes they can, especially if their parents have not stuffed them full of
drinks before going out.

Post by Fran
and lack control.

No they do not.

Post by Fran
that
some problem suffered by small children applies equally to anyone with
incontinence issues. Your dear sainted wife would be very unusual if
she has had no impact on her bladder after production of those plenty
children she produced.

Leave your perverted fantasies at home.

Post by Fran

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by Fran
Have you heard of old age?

I am old.

Well sadly, like stupid, that can't be fixed. But if you're old, your
daddy must be super ancient.

Wow. What mental skills you must possess, in order to work that out.

Daddy is 95.

Post by Fran

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by Fran
Have you heard of prostate cancer?

Yes thanks, but from talking to the friends who have suffered that ailment
and survived (so far) their biggest problem was not the frequency but the
inability to pee at all, even with a full bladder.

LOL. Do stop being a fantasist! Have a conversation with real people
who have had prostate cancer and not imaginary friends.

You mean, if my experiences do not agree with yours, I must be a liar.

How humble you must be.

Post by Fran
Ask them about
what symptoms they had before diagnosis and you'll find that many
suffered from frequency of need to pee and even if they couldn't produce
pee when they tried, they still went to the loo. They didn't whip out
their willy

You are on your sexual fantasy trip again.

Post by Fran
in the middle of the street and stand there straining to
push out a few drops. Ask what happened after surgery and/or radiation,
urge incontinence, leakage. All of those are common in blokes who've
had prostate cancer and had treatment for it.

All those may be common in blokes, but that doesn’t mean they are common in
all blokes who had treatment.

Post by Fran

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by Fran
If you can't figure out how any of these very few things relate to the
need for easy access to a toilet, then you need to get out more.

Not you as well. Are you cliche ridden folk being cloned in a bunker
somewhere?

Thankfully that bunker includes people who can see beyond your fixation
with bottled water companies and your very limited life experiences

You are so correct. I haven’t left my bedroom in over half a century.

I just sit there master baiting; or should that be usenet baiting - of self
appointed clever dicks who believe they have a brain the size of Jupiter.

Post by Fran

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by Fran

Post by johnny-knowall
And now we have potentially sensible idiots running around constrained by an
almost constant desire for a piss or a shit.

There is certainly one idiot who has such limited capacity to think
about health issues and merely sees the need for a toilet as being
related to advertising hype.

How many people did you see carrying bottles of water in the 1970s/80s?

None. But that has nothing to do with the need to use toilets then or now.

Well of course it does - you thick bastard.

Post by Fran

Post by johnny-knowall
If it was not advertising hype, how have UK sales of bottled water now
reached 3 billion litres a year?
The more you pour in, the more will need to come back out.

And what was the consumption of tea in the 1970/80s? Or are you
claiming that people didn't use toilets then?

If you saw people walking down the street holding mugs of tea, because they
had been told they “had to keep hydrated at all times” in the 1970s/80s;
then you are living in a different universe to me.

[Fran]

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by Fran

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by Fran

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by felix

I once badly needed a shit and went in the Mcdonald's in Dalston. The
negro behind the counter told me I'd have to buy something first,

why? did you announce you were going to the loo? just walk in like you
own the place and go straight to the loo. it's what we do in Oz

Same here, in the U.S. Pretty much all fast-food joints, and many real
restaurants, have the restrooms readily accessible from the entry door,
so there's no need to even talk to the cashiers. Except for the small
places, the restrooms are multi-use, so the doors aren't going to be
locked.

Weird.
What kind of strange people go around public places constantly in need of a
toilet?

Have you heard of colorectal cancer?

Yes thanks. My father has that - but he doesn’t spend his entire life in
need of the toilet.

So does Daddy lives with you?

Aha... Mr super intelligent has taken the bait.
No daddy doesn’t live with me.

Post by Fran
If not, how do you know his daily toilet
habits?

Because I have installed an HD CCTV camera in his toilet and linked it to the
internet, where I can watch on a 72 inch TV screen in my living room.

Post by Fran
Does he have a colostomy bag.

No.

Post by Fran
Others, without a bag, and with
various operative solutions DO need to constantly know the nearest
location of a loo, need to be able to access them in haste and do so
frequently.

He doesn’t.

Post by Fran

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by Fran
Have you heard of heard of childbirth?

Yes thanks, my wife had plenty - but she doesn’t spend the whole time in
need of a piss.

LOL. I'm sure you'd have no idea of what her continence issues

Believe me, I do.

Post by Fran
are just
as you clearly had no idea that at some stage she would have had to take
small children (lots of them according to you

So, Mr Vastly Superior Intelligence no doubts I have any children.

Post by Fran
) to toilets.

I did that, mostly. She was at work.

Post by Fran
Unlike you,
she would know that small children can't wait

Yes they can, especially if their parents have not stuffed them full of
drinks before going out.

Post by Fran
and lack control.

No they do not.

Post by Fran
that
some problem suffered by small children applies equally to anyone with
incontinence issues. Your dear sainted wife would be very unusual if
she has had no impact on her bladder after production of those plenty
children she produced.

Leave your perverted fantasies at home.

Post by Fran

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by Fran
Have you heard of old age?

I am old.

Well sadly, like stupid, that can't be fixed. But if you're old, your
daddy must be super ancient.

Wow. What mental skills you must possess, in order to work that out.
Daddy is 95.

Post by Fran

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by Fran
Have you heard of prostate cancer?

Yes thanks, but from talking to the friends who have suffered that ailment
and survived (so far) their biggest problem was not the frequency but the
inability to pee at all, even with a full bladder.

LOL. Do stop being a fantasist! Have a conversation with real people
who have had prostate cancer and not imaginary friends.

You mean, if my experiences do not agree with yours, I must be a liar.
How humble you must be.

So: a) you don't know daddy's toilet habits at all. b) You've made the
assumption that regardless of no real knowledge of daddy's toilet
habits, Daddy's experiencne would have to apply to all other colo-rectal
cancer sufferers.

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by Fran
Ask them about
what symptoms they had before diagnosis and you'll find that many
suffered from frequency of need to pee and even if they couldn't produce
pee when they tried, they still went to the loo. They didn't whip out
their willy

You are on your sexual fantasy trip again.

Now that comment is revealing. You're the one who has turned a comment
about the need to pee into a sexual fantasy.

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by Fran
in the middle of the street and stand there straining to
push out a few drops. Ask what happened after surgery and/or radiation,
urge incontinence, leakage. All of those are common in blokes who've
had prostate cancer and had treatment for it.

All those may be common in blokes, but that doesn’t mean they are common in
all blokes who had treatment.

Precisley!!!!! Stop seeing yourself as the centre of the known universe
and that toliet usuage is all about you and yours. Stop assuming that
the experiences of your bottled water drinking, your daddy, your brother
and your wife and their cancers and bladders MUST apply to every one.
They don't! And they aren't representative.

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by Fran

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by Fran
If you can't figure out how any of these very few things relate to the
need for easy access to a toilet, then you need to get out more.

Not you as well. Are you cliche ridden folk being cloned in a bunker
somewhere?

Thankfully that bunker includes people who can see beyond your fixation
with bottled water companies and your very limited life experiences

You are so correct. I haven’t left my bedroom in over half a century.

Thank the Lord for small mercies. The world is a better place for that
and it does explain your out of touch comments.

Post by johnny-knowall
I just sit there master baiting; or should that be usenet baiting - of self
appointed clever dicks who believe they have a brain the size of Jupiter.

Given that your brain gives every appearance of being the size of a pea,
I can see why you would need to troll to find people who do have some
brains. Get professional help for your inadequacy issues.

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by Fran

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by Fran

Post by johnny-knowall
And now we have potentially sensible idiots running around constrained by an
almost constant desire for a piss or a shit.

There is certainly one idiot who has such limited capacity to think
about health issues and merely sees the need for a toilet as being
related to advertising hype.

How many people did you see carrying bottles of water in the 1970s/80s?

None. But that has nothing to do with the need to use toilets then or now.

Well of course it does - you thick bastard.

Only a thick bastard would think that ONLY now do people need to go to
the toilet because of bottle water. People used toilets in the 70s and
80s. They did that even when they didn't drink bottled water.

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by Fran

Post by johnny-knowall
If it was not advertising hype, how have UK sales of bottled water now
reached 3 billion litres a year?
The more you pour in, the more will need to come back out.

And what was the consumption of tea in the 1970/80s? Or are you
claiming that people didn't use toilets then?

If you saw people walking down the street holding mugs of tea, because they
had been told they “had to keep hydrated at all times” in the 1970s/80s;
then you are living in a different universe to me.

You're an idiot! People used toilets in the 70s and 80s. They did that
even before bottled water was around.

[de chucka]

FYI https://toiletmap.gov.au/

[Incubus]

Post by Bruce S

On 12 Jun 2018, felix wrote (in article

I once badly needed a shit and went in the Mcdonald's in Dalston. The
negro behind the counter told me I'd have to buy something first,

why? did you announce you were going to the loo? just walk in like you own
the place and go straight to the loo. it's what we do in Oz

Same here, in the U.S. Pretty much all fast-food joints, and many real
restaurants, have the restrooms readily accessible from the entry door, so
there's no need to even talk to the cashiers. Except for the small places,
the restrooms are multi-use, so the doors aren't going to be locked.

One of the problems with McDonalds in inner city environments is that people
use their toilets as a shelter in which to consume drugs.

On the bright side, one might expect that the toilet lid be clean.

[FMurtz]

Post by felix

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by felix

Post by Byker

I once badly needed a shit and went in the Mcdonald's in Dalston. The
negro behind the counter told me I'd have to buy something first,

why? did you announce you were going to the loo? just walk in like you
own the place and go straight to the loo. it's what we do in Oz

Probably because they had locks on the loo which is what they do.

Post by felix

Post by johnny-knowall

Post by felix

Post by Byker

so I
ordered the cheapest thing on the menu and went and eased myself. When I
came out and was leaving he called out to give me my hamburger. I felt
like telling him to stick it up his arse but just told him contemptuously
I didn't want it.

In India, they just go in the street whenever they need to. It must be
why India is so noted for its hygiene.

Uh-huh: https://tinyurl.com/ybz6lpld

http://youtu.be/laQugbtwVXU

I have always assumed that customers of McDonalds are there because they have
shit for brains. Maybe the purveyors of junk disguised as food worry that
their entire premises will be covered in faeces if they don’t have rules?

[felix]

Post by FMurtz

Post by felix

I once badly needed a shit and went in the Mcdonald's in
Dalston. The
negro behind the counter told me I'd have to buy something first,

why? did you announce you were going to the loo? just walk in like
you own the place and go straight to the loo. it's what we do in Oz

Probably because they had locks on the loo which is what they do.

I doubt it, considering the traffic in Maccas. they would need a full
time loo attendant, lol

[FMurtz]

Post by felix

Post by FMurtz

Post by felix

I once badly needed a shit and went in the Mcdonald's in Dalston. The
negro behind the counter told me I'd have to buy something first,

why? did you announce you were going to the loo? just walk in like
you own the place and go straight to the loo. it's what we do in Oz

Probably because they had locks on the loo which is what they do.

I doubt it, considering the traffic in Maccas. they would need a full
time loo attendant, lol

These ones under discussion were locked (some with combination that was
written on the bottom of the docket after you bought
something.)otherwise we would not be having this discussion (people
would just use them.

[Bruce S]

Post by felix

Post by FMurtz

Post by felix

I once badly needed a shit and went in the Mcdonald's in Dalston. The
negro behind the counter told me I'd have to buy something first,

why? did you announce you were going to the loo? just walk in like
you own the place and go straight to the loo. it's what we do in Oz

Probably because they had locks on the loo which is what they do.

I doubt it, considering the traffic in Maccas. they would need a full
time loo attendant, lol

Also, the ones I've seen have been muti-use, with two or more urinals as
well as one or more stalls. Locking those would be a PITA. There's
someone on this thread who apparently believes it's all about someone
needing to use the restroom constantly, but the real issue is overall
traffic. When your business has hundreds, or even thousands of
customers come through it per day, enough of them will need the restroom
that it makes sense to (as our fast food joints do) have multi-use
restrooms that are openly available to the public. On a road trip, I
may go a long while and distance without needing a rest stop, but when I
do I know that a typical fast food joint is a good option. I suspect
that if they started locking the restroom doors and requiring purchase
before using them, they'd start seeing Tim Horton incidents, with crazed
monkeys excreting and throwing feces in the main lobby areas. At the
least, they'd have people relieving themselves at the locked restroom
doors.

[FMurtz]

Post by Bruce S

Post by felix

Post by FMurtz

Post by felix

I once badly needed a shit and went in the Mcdonald's in Dalston. The
negro behind the counter told me I'd have to buy something first,

why? did you announce you were going to the loo? just walk in like
you own the place and go straight to the loo. it's what we do in Oz

Probably because they had locks on the loo which is what they do.

I doubt it, considering the traffic in Maccas. they would need a full
time loo attendant, lol

https://tinyurl.com/yay3ca78

https://tinyurl.com/y8tmr9e6

Post by Bruce S
Also, the ones I've seen have been muti-use, with two or more urinals as
well as one or more stalls.  Locking those would be a PITA.  There's
someone on this thread who apparently believes it's all about someone
needing to use the restroom constantly, but the real issue is overall
traffic.  When your business has hundreds, or even thousands of
customers come through it per day, enough of them will need the restroom
that it makes sense to (as our fast food joints do) have multi-use
restrooms that are openly available to the public.  On a road trip, I
may go a long while and distance without needing a rest stop, but when I
do I know that a typical fast food joint is a good option.  I suspect
that if they started locking the restroom doors and requiring purchase
before using them, they'd start seeing Tim Horton incidents, with crazed
monkeys excreting and throwing feces in the main lobby areas.  At the
least, they'd have people relieving themselves at the locked restroom
doors.

[Bruce S]

Post by FMurtz

Post by felix

Post by FMurtz

Post by felix

I once badly needed a shit and went in the Mcdonald's in Dalston. The
negro behind the counter told me I'd have to buy something first,

why? did you announce you were going to the loo? just walk in like
you own the place and go straight to the loo. it's what we do in Oz

Probably because they had locks on the loo which is what they do.

I doubt it, considering the traffic in Maccas. they would need a full
time loo attendant, lol

https://tinyurl.com/yay3ca78

This just seems very silly on that McDonalds' part. I know that if I
were in the restroom and someone needed to get in, I'd be happy to
(assuming I was not in the middle of something) open the door for them.

Post by FMurtz
https://tinyurl.com/y8tmr9e6

This seems to me to be over the line. The local government should not
force businesses to make their facilities available to everyone; that
should be a market decision. If the city recognizes the pressing need
for more public restrooms, the city should build some. IMO it's a bad
decision on the part of the business to restrict access, but it should
still be *their* decision. Just as it should be up to the business
owner whether to permit smoking on the premises.

[Lions Growl of Butchers Foul]

Post by Bruce S

Post by FMurtz

Post by felix

Post by FMurtz

Post by felix

I once badly needed a shit and went in the Mcdonald's in Dalston. The
negro behind the counter told me I'd have to buy something first,

why? did you announce you were going to the loo? just walk in like
you own the place and go straight to the loo. it's what we do in Oz

Probably because they had locks on the loo which is what they do.

I doubt it, considering the traffic in Maccas. they would need a full
time loo attendant, lol

https://tinyurl.com/yay3ca78

This just seems very silly on that McDonalds' part. I know that if I
were in the restroom and someone needed to get in, I'd be happy to
(assuming I was not in the middle of something) open the door for them.

Post by FMurtz
https://tinyurl.com/y8tmr9e6

This seems to me to be over the line. The local government should not
force businesses to make their facilities available to everyone; that
should be a market decision. If the city recognizes the pressing need
for more public restrooms, the city should build some. IMO it's a bad
decision on the part of the business to restrict access, but it should
still be *their* decision. Just as it should be up to the business
owner whether to permit smoking on the premises.

Most businesses expect their toilets to be used by their customers and not the general public. Many businesses have locked toilets and hand over a key on request.
I don't see why any business should have to maintain toilet facilities for the use of the general public, and I don't understand anybody who feels they are entitled to use a business's toilets without being a customer of that business.

[FMurtz]

Post by Lions Growl of Butchers Foul

Post by Bruce S

Post by FMurtz

Post by felix

Post by FMurtz

Post by felix

I once badly needed a shit and went in the Mcdonald's in Dalston. The
negro behind the counter told me I'd have to buy something first,

why? did you announce you were going to the loo? just walk in like
you own the place and go straight to the loo. it's what we do in Oz

Probably because they had locks on the loo which is what they do.

I doubt it, considering the traffic in Maccas. they would need a full
time loo attendant, lol

https://tinyurl.com/yay3ca78

This just seems very silly on that McDonalds' part. I know that if I
were in the restroom and someone needed to get in, I'd be happy to
(assuming I was not in the middle of something) open the door for them.

Post by FMurtz
https://tinyurl.com/y8tmr9e6

This seems to me to be over the line. The local government should not
force businesses to make their facilities available to everyone; that
should be a market decision. If the city recognizes the pressing need
for more public restrooms, the city should build some. IMO it's a bad
decision on the part of the business to restrict access, but it should
still be *their* decision. Just as it should be up to the business
owner whether to permit smoking on the premises.

Most businesses expect their toilets to be used by their customers and not the general public. Many businesses have locked toilets and hand over a key on request.
I don't see why any business should have to maintain toilet facilities for the use of the general public, and I don't understand anybody who feels they are entitled to use a business's toilets without being a customer of that business.

Because they get more customers, I frequently go to macdonalds purely
because I need a toilet urgently, I never leave without buying
something,If one locked their toilet they would never see me again.

[Fran]

On 15/06/2018 1:09 PM, FMurtz wrote:
and I don't understand anybody who

Post by FMurtz

Post by Lions Growl of Butchers Foul
feels they are entitled to use a business's toilets without being a
customer of that business.

Because they get more customers, I frequently go to macdonalds purely
because I need a toilet urgently, I never leave without buying
something,If one locked their toilet they would never see me again.

I agree. Any business that treats its customers that way doesn't
deserve customers.

[Lions Growl of Butchers Foul]

Post by Lions Growl of Butchers Foul
and I don't understand anybody who

Post by FMurtz

Post by Lions Growl of Butchers Foul
feels they are entitled to use a business's toilets without being a
customer of that business.

Because they get more customers, I frequently go to macdonalds purely
because I need a toilet urgently, I never leave without buying
something,If one locked their toilet they would never see me again.

I agree. Any business that treats its customers that way doesn't
deserve customers.

Nowhere where I eat out would let randoms use their toilets.

[Bruce S]

Post by FMurtz

Post by Lions Growl of Butchers Foul

Post by FMurtz

Post by felix

Post by FMurtz

Post by felix

I once badly needed a shit and went in the Mcdonald's in
Dalston. The
negro behind the counter told me I'd have to buy something first,

why? did you announce you were going to the loo? just walk in like
you own the place and go straight to the loo. it's what we do in Oz

Probably because they had locks on the loo which is what they do.

I doubt it, considering the traffic in Maccas. they would need a full
time loo attendant, lol

https://tinyurl.com/yay3ca78

This just seems very silly on that McDonalds' part.  I know that if I
were in the restroom and someone needed to get in, I'd be happy to
(assuming I was not in the middle of something) open the door for them.

Post by FMurtz
https://tinyurl.com/y8tmr9e6

This seems to me to be over the line.  The local government should not
force businesses to make their facilities available to everyone; that
should be a market decision.  If the city recognizes the pressing need
for more public restrooms, the city should build some.  IMO it's a bad
decision on the part of the business to restrict access, but it should
still be *their* decision.  Just as it should be up to the business
owner whether to permit smoking on the premises.

Most businesses expect their toilets to be used by their customers and
not the general public. Many businesses have locked toilets and hand
over a key on request.

Here that seems to vary mainly based on the volume of the business. If
it's a small mom-and-pop type shop, they'll lock it and hand out keys as
requested, but not if they get much business. I've also seen that in
cities, especially if there's a lot of homeless, like in San Francisco.

Post by FMurtz

Post by Lions Growl of Butchers Foul
I don't see why any business should have to maintain toilet facilities
for the use of the general public, and I don't understand anybody who
feels they are entitled to use a business's toilets without being a
customer of that business.

I agree that they shouldn't *have* to. It should be up to them.

Post by FMurtz
Because they get more customers, I frequently go to macdonalds purely
because I need a toilet urgently, I never leave without buying
something,If one locked their toilet they would never see me again.

And that's why they should do it, in general.

[Lions Growl of Butchers Foul]

Post by Bruce S

Post by FMurtz

Post by Lions Growl of Butchers Foul
Most businesses expect their toilets to be used by their customers and
not the general public. Many businesses have locked toilets and hand
over a key on request.

Here that seems to vary mainly based on the volume of the business. If
it's a small mom-and-pop type shop, they'll lock it and hand out keys as
requested, but not if they get much business. I've also seen that in
cities, especially if there's a lot of homeless, like in San Francisco.

Post by FMurtz

Post by Lions Growl of Butchers Foul
I don't see why any business should have to maintain toilet facilities
for the use of the general public, and I don't understand anybody who
feels they are entitled to use a business's toilets without being a
customer of that business.

I agree that they shouldn't *have* to. It should be up to them.

Post by FMurtz
Because they get more customers, I frequently go to macdonalds purely
because I need a toilet urgently, I never leave without buying
something,If one locked their toilet they would never see me again.

And that's why they should do it, in general.

...because they'd rather have homeless people coming into their business than people like me with wallets full of money?
I guess that's how places like McDonalds roll. And I guess that's why I don't set foot in there.
Good place to witness crazy people yelling at each other though, if that's what floats your boat.

[Bruce S]

Post by Lions Growl of Butchers Foul

Post by Bruce S

Post by FMurtz

Post by Lions Growl of Butchers Foul
Most businesses expect their toilets to be used by their
customers and not the general public. Many businesses have
locked toilets and hand over a key on request.

Here that seems to vary mainly based on the volume of the business.
If it's a small mom-and-pop type shop, they'll lock it and hand out
keys as requested, but not if they get much business. I've also
seen that in cities, especially if there's a lot of homeless, like
in San Francisco.

Post by FMurtz

Post by Lions Growl of Butchers Foul
I don't see why any business should have to maintain toilet
facilities for the use of the general public, and I don't
understand anybody who feels they are entitled to use a
business's toilets without being a customer of that business.

I agree that they shouldn't *have* to. It should be up to them.

Post by FMurtz
Because they get more customers, I frequently go to macdonalds
purely because I need a toilet urgently, I never leave without
buying something,If one locked their toilet they would never see
me again.

And that's why they should do it, in general.

...because they'd rather have homeless people coming into their
business than people like me with wallets full of money? I guess
that's how places like McDonalds roll. And I guess that's why I don't
set foot in there. Good place to witness crazy people yelling at each
other though, if that's what floats your boat.

I think you may have misunderstood. When there's a lot of homeless
people around, like in San Francisco, it makes sense for the business to
take more control, as by locking restrooms. Most places don't have
nearly enough problems like that to justify the inconvenience to
potential paying customers. Again, I'd leave it up to the business to
decide, as with most issues.

I hadn't considered going into a McDonald's to watch crazy people.
Maybe Graham can tell us if that's one of his favorite haunts, or if he
has other places he prefers. You can ask dolt.

[felix]

Post by Byker

I once badly needed a shit and went in the Mcdonald's in Dalston. The
negro behind the counter told me I'd have to buy something first, so I
ordered the cheapest thing on the menu and went and eased myself. When I
came out and was leaving he called out to give me my hamburger. I felt
like telling him to stick it up his arse but just told him
contemptuously
I didn't want it.

In India, they just go in the street whenever they need to.  It must be
why India is so noted for its hygiene.

Uh-huh: https://tinyurl.com/ybz6lpld

what a great place to live..

[Byker]

Post by felix

Post by Byker

In India, they just go in the street whenever they need to. It must be
why India is so noted for its hygiene.

Uh-huh: https://tinyurl.com/ybz6lpld

what a great place to live..
http://youtu.be/ixJgY2VSct0

Gee, I wonder why we never see this on the Travel Channel?

[Jimmy Wilkinson Knife]

Post by Byker

Post by felix

Post by Byker

In India, they just go in the street whenever they need to. It must be
why India is so noted for its hygiene.

Uh-huh: https://tinyurl.com/ybz6lpld

what a great place to live..
http://youtu.be/ixJgY2VSct0

Gee, I wonder why we never see this on the Travel Channel?
http://youtu.be/n-flP1H-TYQ

What do you expect, civilization overnight?

[Jimmy Wilkinson Knife]

Post by Byker

Post by felix

Post by Byker

In India, they just go in the street whenever they need to. It must be
why India is so noted for its hygiene.

Uh-huh: https://tinyurl.com/ybz6lpld

what a great place to live..
http://youtu.be/ixJgY2VSct0

Gee, I wonder why we never see this on the Travel Channel?
http://youtu.be/n-flP1H-TYQ

At least they can go anywhere. In the "civilized" UK, there are no longer
any public toilets.

[Lions Growl of Butchers Foul]

Post by Jimmy Wilkinson Knife

Post by Byker

Post by felix

Post by Byker

In India, they just go in the street whenever they need to. It must be
why India is so noted for its hygiene.

Uh-huh: https://tinyurl.com/ybz6lpld

what a great place to live..
http://youtu.be/ixJgY2VSct0

Gee, I wonder why we never see this on the Travel Channel?
http://youtu.be/n-flP1H-TYQ

At least they can go anywhere. In the "civilized" UK, there are no longer
any public toilets.

...which still puts the UK ahead of the continent