On Sun, 01 Mar 2020 13:33:59 -0600, Tony <lizandtony at orcon dot net
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Post by TonyPost by JohnOhttps://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics/2020/02/shane-jones-says-indian-students-have-ruined-nz-academic-institutions.html
Ardern will do nothing, because she has no leadership control. Too
busy
abroad
virtue signaling anyway.
She does not face the big issues, fearful of losing the support of
Peters,
who
should be asked to step down pending the SFO enquiry anyway.
If there are any prosecutions should Winston himself step aside at
that stage? If so, should that apply to all parties, Tony?
Of course it should apply to all parties but NZ First is the only party
implicated at this time.
As you know, there will be no charges against NZ First, just as there
were none against National for actions by their Chief Whip.
Post by TonyNo other party (or their affiliated trusts) are being investigated.
As you know the investigations relate to actions by individuals. We do
not know who may be charged - for all we know investigations into the
National Party may well be continuing.
Post by TonyWinston is implicated right now and integrity is nowehere to be seen. Shameful.
What actions of Winston implicated him, Tony? You do not know, and
are just making noises. If he has done wrong then I hope he is
charged, and as I have previously said I hope any court cases can be
completed prior to the election, but you are just barking at the moon,
Tony
What nonsense. It is about integrity.
So what is Peters implicated in exactly, Tony? What is the matter of
integrity you are concerned about?
He is deputy PM and should be above reproach, but he isn't.
Not above reroach is not quite the same as being implicated - butthe
common theme is that you make statements that you cannot explain, you
refuse to answer questions by shuffling words but not explaining what
you are talking about. What is it that yu are accusing Peters of,
Tony? That yu don;t particularly like him appears evident, but it is
not a chargeable offence!
Post by TonySimple really. Or
don't you want your deputy PM to have integrity? Thought not!
He is your deputy PM as well; I do not claim any special relationship
- but you do not seem to be able to point to anything he is supose to
have done to justify your impugning his integrity. Put up or shut up,
Tony.
Wine box - a heap of lies.
Irrelevant - you are just trying to distract from current events. He
has been re-elected quite a few times since those days.
Post by TonyThe NZ First hidden donations.
I agree - hidden donations by National, Labour and NZ First are all of
concern, and in my view there should be changes to the law, but yuo
have not indicated any wrong on the part of Peters. There are
investigations continuing, but one investigation resulted in charges
for an MP who at the time of the alleged offence was National's Chief
Whip, and relating to a donation which we know was discussed with
Simon Bridges. The concern about Bridges was such that a specific
statement was made that he was not being charged. There have been no
charged in relation to other parties, but investigations continue.
So if you are concerned about sonations, there is at this time more
concern about a party that has had one person charged than other
parties with none charged.
Post by TonyJust the start - he does not have the integrity we deserve.
Not even the start - you have still not be able to point to anything
he is supposed to have done to justify your impugning his integrity.
Again, Tony, put up or shut up.
Post by TonyPost by Rich80105Post by TonyPost by Rich80105Post by TonyAnd you clearly believe that unless it is
actually illegal it is OK. Right?
Something you have incorrectly accused myself and others of.
I have accused National of having the attitude that illegality and
prosecutions are OK so long as their people are not convicted. I don't
think I have ever accused you of that attitude
You most certainly have done that.
Post by Rich80105; you have I think
previously claimed that you are not a National supporter and that you
have voted for other parties in the past; but possibly that was
someone else.
No that was me. But it has nothing at all to do with this thread.
Can you actually add anything of value?