Harry Potter Question

[denaldo]

(This is to be all opinion and conjecture. If you had a Time
Lord hand you an advance copy, keep the spoilers to yourself,
thank you.)(This also goes for a certain Musquodoboit Harbour
Farm Cat that I know has connections with Russian mafia
figures within the publishing industry and a penchant for
bribed insider information to go with his 32% cream)

We have ten days to hash it out, so we might as well get
started. Is Rowlings going to mortify millions of fans
by killing off Harry? Personally, I will only hunt her
down and slap her if she kills Hermione. I think she
will try to do what Arthur Conan Doyle couldn't and take
the hero out so that neither she nor anyone else can
run him through the ringer anymore.

My wildest speculation? The flying car that went feral
and dissappeared into the forest will make a surprise,
heroic appearance in chapter 29.

[Dan Goodman]

"Harry, I am your father."

Harry woke up. It had all been a dream.

[denaldo]

Post by Dan Goodman
"Harry, I am your father."
Harry woke up. It had all been a dream.

LOL! Howzabout a Sopranos version where she builds up
to the climax and leaves the last five pages blank?

[Wesley Struebing]

Post by Dan Goodman
"Harry, I am your father."
Harry woke up. It had all been a dream.

He woke up in bed with Suzanne Pleshette?!

--

Wes Struebing

I pledge allegiance to the Constitution of the United States of America,
and to the republic which it established, one nation from many peoples,
promising liberty and justice for all.

[Desideria]

Post by Wesley Struebing

Post by Dan Goodman
"Harry, I am your father."
Harry woke up. It had all been a dream.

He woke up in bed with Suzanne Pleshette?!

You sure folks will get that reference? We're aging ourselves here, sir. ;-)

More recent is the "Dallas" version.

Desideria

[denaldo]

Post by Desideria

Post by Wesley Struebing

Post by Dan Goodman
"Harry, I am your father."
Harry woke up. It had all been a dream.

He woke up in bed with Suzanne Pleshette?!

You sure folks will get that reference? We're aging ourselves here, sir. ;-)
More recent is the "Dallas" version.

An even older reference:
"Invaders from Mars"
He wakes up. It has all been a really terrible
dream and the Death Eaters haven't taken over
all of his friends. He's back with the Dursleys,
in a world without evil magicians, which doesn't
seem so bad a fate anymore.

.... Then an owl flies by the window...

[Wesley Struebing]

Post by denaldo

Post by Desideria

Post by Wesley Struebing

Post by Dan Goodman
"Harry, I am your father."
Harry woke up. It had all been a dream.

He woke up in bed with Suzanne Pleshette?!

You sure folks will get that reference? We're aging ourselves here, sir. ;-)
More recent is the "Dallas" version.

"Invaders from Mars"
He wakes up. It has all been a really terrible
dream and the Death Eaters haven't taken over
all of his friends. He's back with the Dursleys,
in a world without evil magicians, which doesn't
seem so bad a fate anymore.
.... Then an owl flies by the window...

<grins> I remember that! (saw it at a drive-in the first time). And
he gets up to look out the window again...

--

Wes Struebing

I pledge allegiance to the Constitution of the United States of America,
and to the republic which it established, one nation from many peoples,
promising liberty and justice for all.

[Wesley Struebing]

On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 21:31:14 -0700, "Desideria"

Post by Desideria

Post by Wesley Struebing

Post by Dan Goodman
"Harry, I am your father."
Harry woke up. It had all been a dream.

He woke up in bed with Suzanne Pleshette?!

You sure folks will get that reference? We're aging ourselves here, sir. ;-)
More recent is the "Dallas" version.
Desideria

M' dear, unless you beloved has been cluing you in, you're not old
enough to remember that! <grin>

Wasn't Dallas actually before the denouement of the Bob Newhart Show?
(y'know, when you get my age the mind wanders - and sometimes gets
lost. I shouldn't let it out by itself...)

--

Wes Struebing

I pledge allegiance to the Constitution of the United States of America,
and to the republic which it established, one nation from many peoples,
promising liberty and justice for all.

[Joyce of Pendle]

Post by Wesley Struebing
y'know, when you get my age the mind wanders - and sometimes gets
lost. I shouldn't let it out by itself...

since vj is busy ... POINT!

Joyce of Pendle.

[D.J.]

On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 10:37:55 +0100, Joyce of Pendle
<***@invalid.invalid> wrote:
]Wesley Struebing wrote:
]
]> y'know, when you get my age the mind wanders - and sometimes gets
]> lost. I shouldn't let it out by itself...
]
]since vj is busy ... POINT!

Its not that my brain and mind are lost. They are backed up on
casette tape somewhere. But I cannot find the tape, and none of my
computers has had a casette tape interface for loading and saving
data for some years now. :-)

D.J.

[Ed]

Post by Desideria

Post by Wesley Struebing

Post by Dan Goodman
"Harry, I am your father."
Harry woke up. It had all been a dream.

He woke up in bed with Suzanne Pleshette?!

You sure folks will get that reference? We're aging ourselves here, sir. ;-)
More recent is the "Dallas" version.
Desideria

I was pretty certain "Dallas" ended _before_ "Newheart."

[Matthew T. Russotto]

Post by Desideria

Post by Wesley Struebing

Post by Dan Goodman
"Harry, I am your father."
Harry woke up. It had all been a dream.

He woke up in bed with Suzanne Pleshette?!

You sure folks will get that reference? We're aging ourselves here, sir. ;-)
More recent is the "Dallas" version.

The last episode of "Newhart" is newer than than the dream season of
Dallas, though "The Bob Newhart Show" precedes both. Nobody seems to
worry about not getting the _The Empire Strikes Back_ reference...

The Last Newhart: May 21, 1990
Dallas dream season: 1985-1986
The Empire Strikes Back: 1980
The Bob Newhart Show: 1972-1978

(Alas, the "Voldemort as Harry's father" theory was pretty decisively
stomped; we know both their pedigrees already)

[Matthew Amsel]

Post by Matthew T. Russotto

Post by Desideria

Post by Wesley Struebing

Post by Dan Goodman
"Harry, I am your father."
Harry woke up. It had all been a dream.

He woke up in bed with Suzanne Pleshette?!

You sure folks will get that reference? We're aging ourselves here, sir. ;-)
More recent is the "Dallas" version.

The last episode of "Newhart" is newer than than the dream season of
Dallas, though "The Bob Newhart Show" precedes both. Nobody seems to
worry about not getting the _The Empire Strikes Back_ reference...
The Last Newhart: May 21, 1990
Dallas dream season: 1985-1986
The Empire Strikes Back: 1980
The Bob Newhart Show: 1972-1978
(Alas, the "Voldemort as Harry's father" theory was pretty decisively
stomped; we know both their pedigrees already)

"Harry, I am your father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate."
--
"Forget the Force. Trust in the spread of the gauge."

"If knowledge creates problems, ignorance will not solve them"
-Isaac Asimov.

I try not to repeat my mistakes. That way, I can invent exciting new
ones to make.

"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'nice doggy' until you can find a rock."
-Will Rogers

"Cry 'CHEEBLE' and let slip the hamsters of war."
-Esther Freisner

"Those who learn from history are condemned to watch others repeat it."
- Henry Kissinger

[Ed]

Post by Matthew Amsel

Post by Matthew T. Russotto

Post by Desideria

Post by Wesley Struebing

Post by Dan Goodman
"Harry, I am your father."
Harry woke up. It had all been a dream.

He woke up in bed with Suzanne Pleshette?!

You sure folks will get that reference? We're aging ourselves here, sir. ;-)
More recent is the "Dallas" version.

The last episode of "Newhart" is newer than than the dream season of
Dallas, though "The Bob Newhart Show" precedes both. Nobody seems to
worry about not getting the _The Empire Strikes Back_ reference...
The Last Newhart: May 21, 1990
Dallas dream season: 1985-1986
The Empire Strikes Back: 1980
The Bob Newhart Show: 1972-1978
(Alas, the "Voldemort as Harry's father" theory was pretty decisively
stomped; we know both their pedigrees already)

"Harry, I am your father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate."

"What does that make us?"

[Matthew Amsel]

Post by Ed

Post by Matthew Amsel

Post by Matthew T. Russotto

Post by Desideria

Post by Wesley Struebing

Post by Dan Goodman
"Harry, I am your father."
Harry woke up. It had all been a dream.

He woke up in bed with Suzanne Pleshette?!

You sure folks will get that reference? We're aging ourselves here, sir. ;-)
More recent is the "Dallas" version.

The last episode of "Newhart" is newer than than the dream season of
Dallas, though "The Bob Newhart Show" precedes both. Nobody seems to
worry about not getting the _The Empire Strikes Back_ reference...
The Last Newhart: May 21, 1990
Dallas dream season: 1985-1986
The Empire Strikes Back: 1980
The Bob Newhart Show: 1972-1978
(Alas, the "Voldemort as Harry's father" theory was pretty decisively
stomped; we know both their pedigrees already)

"Harry, I am your father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate."

"What does that make us?"

"Absolutely nothing!" <fires hexes, with one reflecting into a sensitive
area>
--
"Forget the Force. Trust in the spread of the gauge."

"If knowledge creates problems, ignorance will not solve them"
-Isaac Asimov.

I try not to repeat my mistakes. That way, I can invent exciting new
ones to make.

"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'nice doggy' until you can find a rock."
-Will Rogers

"Cry 'CHEEBLE' and let slip the hamsters of war."
-Esther Freisner

"Those who learn from history are condemned to watch others repeat it."
- Henry Kissinger

[Speaker to Lab Animals]

Post by denaldo
If you had a Time
Lord hand you an advance copy, keep the spoilers to yourself,
thank you.)

I *love* that quote - even if it hasn't aired in the states yet!

[Tim]

On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 23:48:12 -0400, Speaker to Lab Animals

Post by Speaker to Lab Animals

Post by denaldo
If you had a Time
Lord hand you an advance copy, keep the spoilers to yourself,
thank you.)

I *love* that quote - even if it hasn't aired in the states yet!

Speaking of spoilers, does that mean The Doctor has been handing out
advance copies of some book?

BTW series three just started on SciFi.

[Harry Andruschak]

Post by denaldo
We have ten days to hash it out, so we might as well get
started. Is Rowlings going to mortify millions of fans
by killing off Harry? Personally, I will only hunt her
down and slap her if she kills Hermione. I think she
will try to do what Arthur Conan Doyle couldn't and take
the hero out so that neither she nor anyone else can
run him through the ringer anymore.

Arthur Conan Doyle, like many a writer with a popular series, seems to
have felt that Sherlock Holmes was drawing attention away from his
more serious, more literary work. Hence the attempt to get rid of him.
Will Rowlings really kill off Harry Potter and the Enormous Royalty
Cheques? She has no other literary efforts.

My speculation: Harry and Hermione wind up engaged at the end of this
book, with plenty of room for money-making sequels.

[Tim]

On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 22:15:29 -0700, Harry Andruschak

Post by Harry Andruschak

Post by denaldo
We have ten days to hash it out, so we might as well get
started. Is Rowlings going to mortify millions of fans
by killing off Harry? Personally, I will only hunt her
down and slap her if she kills Hermione. I think she
will try to do what Arthur Conan Doyle couldn't and take
the hero out so that neither she nor anyone else can
run him through the ringer anymore.

Arthur Conan Doyle, like many a writer with a popular series, seems to
have felt that Sherlock Holmes was drawing attention away from his
more serious, more literary work. Hence the attempt to get rid of him.
Will Rowlings really kill off Harry Potter and the Enormous Royalty
Cheques? She has no other literary efforts.
My speculation: Harry and Hermione wind up engaged at the end of this
book, with plenty of room for money-making sequels.

She has sworn up, down, and sideways that Deathly Hallows is
absolutely the last book.

[Denny Wheeler]

Post by Tim
On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 22:15:29 -0700, Harry Andruschak

Post by Harry Andruschak

Post by denaldo
We have ten days to hash it out, so we might as well get
started. Is Rowlings going to mortify millions of fans
by killing off Harry? Personally, I will only hunt her
down and slap her if she kills Hermione. I think she
will try to do what Arthur Conan Doyle couldn't and take
the hero out so that neither she nor anyone else can
run him through the ringer anymore.

Arthur Conan Doyle, like many a writer with a popular series, seems to
have felt that Sherlock Holmes was drawing attention away from his
more serious, more literary work. Hence the attempt to get rid of him.
Will Rowlings really kill off Harry Potter and the Enormous Royalty
Cheques? She has no other literary efforts.
My speculation: Harry and Hermione wind up engaged at the end of this
book, with plenty of room for money-making sequels.

She has sworn up, down, and sideways that Deathly Hallows is
absolutely the last book.

And with the 7 books, and the (as it will be) 7 films, she'll have
plenty of nice fat royalty checks. Of course, Her Majesty's
government will take a very large percentage...

[denaldo]

Post by Denny Wheeler

Post by Tim
On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 22:15:29 -0700, Harry Andruschak

Post by Harry Andruschak

Post by denaldo
We have ten days to hash it out, so we might as well get
started. Is Rowlings going to mortify millions of fans
by killing off Harry? Personally, I will only hunt her
down and slap her if she kills Hermione. I think she
will try to do what Arthur Conan Doyle couldn't and take
the hero out so that neither she nor anyone else can
run him through the ringer anymore.

Arthur Conan Doyle, like many a writer with a popular series, seems to
have felt that Sherlock Holmes was drawing attention away from his
more serious, more literary work. Hence the attempt to get rid of him.
Will Rowlings really kill off Harry Potter and the Enormous Royalty
Cheques? She has no other literary efforts.
My speculation: Harry and Hermione wind up engaged at the end of this
book, with plenty of room for money-making sequels.

She has sworn up, down, and sideways that Deathly Hallows is
absolutely the last book.

And with the 7 books, and the (as it will be) 7 films, she'll have
plenty of nice fat royalty checks. Of course, Her Majesty's
government will take a very large percentage...

To paraphrase the Beatles
"Her majesty's a pretty nice girl but she doesn't
leave a lot of 'pay'. Her majesty's a pretty nice
girl but the taxes are due today. I want to tell
her that I love her a lot, but she's taking quite
a lot of what is mine. I'm so popular after these
seven books, that mayhaps the job should be all
mine, all mine. Someday I'll be the royal line."

[Ed]

Post by denaldo

Post by Denny Wheeler

Post by Tim
On Sun, 08 Jul 2007 22:15:29 -0700, Harry Andruschak

Post by Harry Andruschak

Post by denaldo
We have ten days to hash it out, so we might as well get
started. Is Rowlings going to mortify millions of fans
by killing off Harry? Personally, I will only hunt her
down and slap her if she kills Hermione. I think she
will try to do what Arthur Conan Doyle couldn't and take
the hero out so that neither she nor anyone else can
run him through the ringer anymore.

Arthur Conan Doyle, like many a writer with a popular series, seems to
have felt that Sherlock Holmes was drawing attention away from his
more serious, more literary work. Hence the attempt to get rid of him.
Will Rowlings really kill off Harry Potter and the Enormous Royalty
Cheques? She has no other literary efforts.
My speculation: Harry and Hermione wind up engaged at the end of this
book, with plenty of room for money-making sequels.

She has sworn up, down, and sideways that Deathly Hallows is
absolutely the last book.

And with the 7 books, and the (as it will be) 7 films, she'll have
plenty of nice fat royalty checks. Of course, Her Majesty's
government will take a very large percentage...

To paraphrase the Beatles
"Her majesty's a pretty nice girl but she doesn't
leave a lot of 'pay'. Her majesty's a pretty nice
girl but the taxes are due today. I want to tell
her that I love her a lot, but she's taking quite
a lot of what is mine. I'm so popular after these
seven books, that mayhaps the job should be all
mine, all mine. Someday I'll be the royal line."

One that would work better;

"Let me tell you how it will be.
There's one for you, nineteen for me.
'Cause I'm the taxman. Yeah, I'm the taxman.

And you're working for no one but me!"

[Matthew T. Russotto]

Post by Denny Wheeler
And with the 7 books, and the (as it will be) 7 films, she'll have
plenty of nice fat royalty checks. Of course, Her Majesty's
government will take a very large percentage...

Perhaps she'll move next door to Arthur C. Clarke...

[Jette]

Post by Matthew T. Russotto

Post by Denny Wheeler
And with the 7 books, and the (as it will be) 7 films, she'll have
plenty of nice fat royalty checks. Of course, Her Majesty's
government will take a very large percentage...

Perhaps she'll move next door to Arthur C. Clarke...

She shows no inclination to at the moment - bought herself a nice
"castle" up here in Scotland recently - and of course there's the new
sprog to finish growing up and educating before she thinks of moving
somewhere where she can't rely on universal health care and a decent
free education.

[Matthew T. Russotto]

Post by Jette

Post by Matthew T. Russotto

Post by Denny Wheeler
And with the 7 books, and the (as it will be) 7 films, she'll have
plenty of nice fat royalty checks. Of course, Her Majesty's
government will take a very large percentage...

Perhaps she'll move next door to Arthur C. Clarke...

She shows no inclination to at the moment - bought herself a nice
"castle" up here in Scotland recently - and of course there's the new
sprog to finish growing up and educating before she thinks of moving
somewhere where she can't rely on universal health care and a decent
free education.

I'm sure she could hire full time tutors and doctors for what she'd
save on taxes.

[Jette]

Post by Matthew T. Russotto

Post by Jette

Post by Matthew T. Russotto

Post by Denny Wheeler
And with the 7 books, and the (as it will be) 7 films, she'll have
plenty of nice fat royalty checks. Of course, Her Majesty's
government will take a very large percentage...

Perhaps she'll move next door to Arthur C. Clarke...

She shows no inclination to at the moment - bought herself a nice
"castle" up here in Scotland recently - and of course there's the new
sprog to finish growing up and educating before she thinks of moving
somewhere where she can't rely on universal health care and a decent
free education.

I'm sure she could hire full time tutors and doctors for what she'd
save on taxes.

Unlikely. Good staff are hard to find and wages are extortionate.

[Matthew T. Russotto]

Post by Jette

Post by Matthew T. Russotto

Post by Jette

Post by Matthew T. Russotto

Post by Denny Wheeler
And with the 7 books, and the (as it will be) 7 films, she'll have
plenty of nice fat royalty checks. Of course, Her Majesty's
government will take a very large percentage...

Perhaps she'll move next door to Arthur C. Clarke...

She shows no inclination to at the moment - bought herself a nice
"castle" up here in Scotland recently - and of course there's the new
sprog to finish growing up and educating before she thinks of moving
somewhere where she can't rely on universal health care and a decent
free education.

I'm sure she could hire full time tutors and doctors for what she'd
save on taxes.

Unlikely. Good staff are hard to find and wages are extortionate.

In the UK. Plenty of staff available elsewhere much cheaper -- even
trained and educated staff.

[Jette]

Post by Matthew T. Russotto

Post by Jette

Post by Matthew T. Russotto

Post by Jette

Post by Matthew T. Russotto

Post by Denny Wheeler
And with the 7 books, and the (as it will be) 7 films, she'll have
plenty of nice fat royalty checks. Of course, Her Majesty's
government will take a very large percentage...

Perhaps she'll move next door to Arthur C. Clarke...

She shows no inclination to at the moment - bought herself a nice
"castle" up here in Scotland recently - and of course there's the new
sprog to finish growing up and educating before she thinks of moving
somewhere where she can't rely on universal health care and a decent
free education.

I'm sure she could hire full time tutors and doctors for what she'd
save on taxes.

Unlikely. Good staff are hard to find and wages are extortionate.

In the UK. Plenty of staff available elsewhere much cheaper -- even
trained and educated staff.

I was talking about elsewhere - she'd want to be able to rely on
certain standards.

[Matthew T. Russotto]

Post by Harry Andruschak

Post by denaldo
We have ten days to hash it out, so we might as well get
started. Is Rowlings going to mortify millions of fans
by killing off Harry? Personally, I will only hunt her
down and slap her if she kills Hermione. I think she
will try to do what Arthur Conan Doyle couldn't and take
the hero out so that neither she nor anyone else can
run him through the ringer anymore.

Arthur Conan Doyle, like many a writer with a popular series, seems to
have felt that Sherlock Holmes was drawing attention away from his
more serious, more literary work. Hence the attempt to get rid of him.
Will Rowlings really kill off Harry Potter and the Enormous Royalty
Cheques? She has no other literary efforts.

She's a billionaire (in US dollar terms), and the royalty money from
the 7 Potter books, movies, and other tie-ins will keep her far more than
well-to-do for the rest of her life. If she wants to kill him off
(and IMO the structure of the story demands it), money won't stop
her.

[Dave]

On Jul 8, 10:15 pm, Harry Andruschak <***@aol.com> wrote:
<snip>

Post by Harry Andruschak
Will Rowlings really kill off Harry Potter and the Enormous Royalty
Cheques? She has no other literary efforts.

She (J.K.) is richer than the Queen, for ghod's sake! There is a
limit to how much money one can spend in a lifetime, and I believe
she's well over that limit. If she kills him off and doesn't earn a
single additional royalty check for the rest of her life, do you think
she'll ever drop below the poverty line? I don't think so...

Dave

[Desideria]

Post by denaldo
<snip>

Post by Harry Andruschak
Will Rowlings really kill off Harry Potter and the Enormous Royalty
Cheques? She has no other literary efforts.

She (J.K.) is richer than the Queen, for ghod's sake! There is a
limit to how much money one can spend in a lifetime, and I believe
she's well over that limit. If she kills him off and doesn't earn a
single additional royalty check for the rest of her life, do you think
she'll ever drop below the poverty line? I don't think so...

Depends on how her money is managed, or mismanaged.

Desideria

[Jette]

Post by Desideria

Post by denaldo
<snip>

Post by Harry Andruschak
Will Rowlings really kill off Harry Potter and the Enormous Royalty
Cheques? She has no other literary efforts.

She (J.K.) is richer than the Queen, for ghod's sake! There is a
limit to how much money one can spend in a lifetime, and I believe
she's well over that limit. If she kills him off and doesn't earn a
single additional royalty check for the rest of her life, do you think
she'll ever drop below the poverty line? I don't think so...

Depends on how her money is managed, or mismanaged.

her money will be well managed - it's not like she's actually from a
background of poverty in the first instance.

[Desideria]

Post by Jette

Post by Desideria

Post by denaldo
<snip>

Post by Harry Andruschak
Will Rowlings really kill off Harry Potter and the Enormous Royalty
Cheques? She has no other literary efforts.

She (J.K.) is richer than the Queen, for ghod's sake! There is a
limit to how much money one can spend in a lifetime, and I believe
she's well over that limit. If she kills him off and doesn't earn a
single additional royalty check for the rest of her life, do you think
she'll ever drop below the poverty line? I don't think so...

Depends on how her money is managed, or mismanaged.

her money will be well managed - it's not like she's actually from a
background of poverty in the first instance.

Really? I'd heard that she was 'on the dole' (??) when she started writing
the books.

Desideria

[Ken]

On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 19:01:45 -0700, "Desideria"

Post by Desideria

Post by Jette

Post by Desideria

Post by denaldo
<snip>

Post by Harry Andruschak
Will Rowlings really kill off Harry Potter and the Enormous Royalty
Cheques? She has no other literary efforts.

She (J.K.) is richer than the Queen, for ghod's sake! There is a
limit to how much money one can spend in a lifetime, and I believe
she's well over that limit. If she kills him off and doesn't earn a
single additional royalty check for the rest of her life, do you think
she'll ever drop below the poverty line? I don't think so...

Depends on how her money is managed, or mismanaged.

her money will be well managed - it's not like she's actually from a
background of poverty in the first instance.

Really? I'd heard that she was 'on the dole' (??) when she started writing
the books.
Desideria

She was supposedly a single mum on a supporting mother's pension. Not
quite the same as "on the dole", which is unemployment benefits.
However, her biography also notes she was teaching french in Edinburgh
when her first book sold & that she had a grant from the Scottish Arts
Council.

http://gaga.essortment.com/jkrowlingbiogr_reak.htm

[Jette]

Post by Ken
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 19:01:45 -0700, "Desideria"

Post by Desideria

Post by Jette

Post by Desideria

Post by denaldo
<snip>

Post by Harry Andruschak
Will Rowlings really kill off Harry Potter and the Enormous Royalty
Cheques? She has no other literary efforts.

She (J.K.) is richer than the Queen, for ghod's sake! There is a
limit to how much money one can spend in a lifetime, and I believe
she's well over that limit. If she kills him off and doesn't earn a
single additional royalty check for the rest of her life, do you think
she'll ever drop below the poverty line? I don't think so...

Depends on how her money is managed, or mismanaged.

her money will be well managed - it's not like she's actually from a
background of poverty in the first instance.

Really? I'd heard that she was 'on the dole' (??) when she started writing
the books.
Desideria

She was supposedly a single mum on a supporting mother's pension. Not
quite the same as "on the dole", which is unemployment benefits.
However, her biography also notes she was teaching french in Edinburgh
when her first book sold & that she had a grant from the Scottish Arts
Council.
http://gaga.essortment.com/jkrowlingbiogr_reak.htm

And while she was _writing_ it, she could afford to sit in a cafe all
day - I work full time and I couldn't afford the cover charge for the
cafe in question to sit there all day!

[Desideria]

Post by Jette

Post by Ken
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 19:01:45 -0700, "Desideria"

Post by Desideria

Post by Jette

Post by Desideria

Post by denaldo
<snip>

Post by Harry Andruschak
Will Rowlings really kill off Harry Potter and the Enormous Royalty
Cheques? She has no other literary efforts.

She (J.K.) is richer than the Queen, for ghod's sake! There is a
limit to how much money one can spend in a lifetime, and I believe
she's well over that limit. If she kills him off and doesn't earn a
single additional royalty check for the rest of her life, do you think
she'll ever drop below the poverty line? I don't think so...

Depends on how her money is managed, or mismanaged.

her money will be well managed - it's not like she's actually from a
background of poverty in the first instance.

Really? I'd heard that she was 'on the dole' (??) when she started
writing the books.
Desideria

She was supposedly a single mum on a supporting mother's pension. Not
quite the same as "on the dole", which is unemployment benefits.
However, her biography also notes she was teaching french in Edinburgh
when her first book sold & that she had a grant from the Scottish Arts
Council.
http://gaga.essortment.com/jkrowlingbiogr_reak.htm

And while she was _writing_ it, she could afford to sit in a cafe all
day - I work full time and I couldn't afford the cover charge for the cafe
in question to sit there all day!

Ah. Cross-country differences and semantics. My understanding of "on the
dole" for my part of the country is that it's being on Welfare.

And our cafes don't have cover charges, unless live music is playing
(usually in bars at night).

Desideria

[Jette]

Post by Desideria

Post by Jette

Post by Ken
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 19:01:45 -0700, "Desideria"

Post by Desideria

Post by Jette

Post by Desideria

Post by denaldo
<snip>

Post by Harry Andruschak
Will Rowlings really kill off Harry Potter and the Enormous Royalty
Cheques? She has no other literary efforts.

She (J.K.) is richer than the Queen, for ghod's sake! There is a
limit to how much money one can spend in a lifetime, and I believe
she's well over that limit. If she kills him off and doesn't earn a
single additional royalty check for the rest of her life, do you think
she'll ever drop below the poverty line? I don't think so...

Depends on how her money is managed, or mismanaged.

her money will be well managed - it's not like she's actually from a
background of poverty in the first instance.

Really? I'd heard that she was 'on the dole' (??) when she started
writing the books.
Desideria

She was supposedly a single mum on a supporting mother's pension. Not
quite the same as "on the dole", which is unemployment benefits.
However, her biography also notes she was teaching french in Edinburgh
when her first book sold & that she had a grant from the Scottish Arts
Council.
http://gaga.essortment.com/jkrowlingbiogr_reak.htm

And while she was _writing_ it, she could afford to sit in a cafe all
day - I work full time and I couldn't afford the cover charge for the cafe
in question to sit there all day!

Ah. Cross-country differences and semantics. My understanding of "on the
dole" for my part of the country is that it's being on Welfare.
And our cafes don't have cover charges, unless live music is playing
(usually in bars at night).

Neither do ours - unless you're sitting there all day taking up a table
where paying customers could be sitting. Do that and you'd better order
something every half hour or so - and more than just a plain coffee - or
work out a cover charge with the management.

[David Smith]

Post by Desideria

Post by Ken
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 19:01:45 -0700, "Desideria"

Post by Desideria

Post by Jette

Post by Desideria

Post by denaldo
<snip>

Post by Harry Andruschak
Will Rowlings really kill off Harry Potter and the Enormous Royalty
Cheques? She has no other literary efforts.

She (J.K.) is richer than the Queen, for ghod's sake! There is a
limit to how much money one can spend in a lifetime, and I believe
she's well over that limit. If she kills him off and doesn't earn a
single additional royalty check for the rest of her life, do you
think she'll ever drop below the poverty line? I don't think so...

Depends on how her money is managed, or mismanaged.

her money will be well managed - it's not like she's actually from a
background of poverty in the first instance.

Really? I'd heard that she was 'on the dole' (??) when she started
writing the books.
Desideria

She was supposedly a single mum on a supporting mother's pension. Not
quite the same as "on the dole", which is unemployment benefits.
However, her biography also notes she was teaching french in Edinburgh
when her first book sold & that she had a grant from the Scottish Arts
Council.
http://gaga.essortment.com/jkrowlingbiogr_reak.htm

And while she was _writing_ it, she could afford to sit in a cafe all day
- I work full time and I couldn't afford the cover charge for the cafe in
question to sit there all day!

Ah. Cross-country differences and semantics. My understanding of "on the
dole" for my part of the country is that it's being on Welfare.

Well, yeahbut, having lived in several parts of the US, at the moment you
can't get welfare if you aren't working -- in other words it's like
unemployment, except They pretend you haven't already paid for it.

I was denied welfare because I wasn't working. I was in the process of
losing the apartment I rented. I was denied because I wasn't working and
was marginally homeless.

I got a job. I was denied because I was making too much money, and
couldn't be losing my apartment because I now had a job.

I ended up living in a motel for 75 percent of my income. And still
getting taxed for Unemployment Insurance, among many, many other things.
Republican administration. Governor John Engler, coulda been president,
but never with a capital P. Would be kinda like Curious George for
President -- oh wait...

Anybody wanna live in Michigan? Or the US?

Post by Desideria
And our cafes don't have cover charges, unless live music is playing
(usually in bars at night).

Here, too, unless it's a nekkid bar, in which case, who cares what band is
playing?

[Jette]

Post by Desideria

Post by Jette

Post by Desideria

Post by denaldo
<snip>

Post by Harry Andruschak
Will Rowlings really kill off Harry Potter and the Enormous Royalty
Cheques? She has no other literary efforts.

She (J.K.) is richer than the Queen, for ghod's sake! There is a
limit to how much money one can spend in a lifetime, and I believe
she's well over that limit. If she kills him off and doesn't earn a
single additional royalty check for the rest of her life, do you think
she'll ever drop below the poverty line? I don't think so...

Depends on how her money is managed, or mismanaged.

her money will be well managed - it's not like she's actually from a
background of poverty in the first instance.

Really? I'd heard that she was 'on the dole' (??) when she started writing
the books.

She was unemployed, yes - but that doesn't mean she was derelict - she
was living in a flat provided by her brother. "Dole" (unemployment
benefit aka "job seekers allowance") is an earned benefit, not means tested.

[Tim]

On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 19:01:45 -0700, "Desideria"

Post by Desideria

Post by Jette

Post by Desideria

Post by denaldo
<snip>

Post by Harry Andruschak
Will Rowlings really kill off Harry Potter and the Enormous Royalty
Cheques? She has no other literary efforts.

She (J.K.) is richer than the Queen, for ghod's sake! There is a
limit to how much money one can spend in a lifetime, and I believe
she's well over that limit. If she kills him off and doesn't earn a
single additional royalty check for the rest of her life, do you think
she'll ever drop below the poverty line? I don't think so...

Depends on how her money is managed, or mismanaged.

her money will be well managed - it's not like she's actually from a
background of poverty in the first instance.

Really? I'd heard that she was 'on the dole' (??) when she started writing
the books.
Desideria

That was after her divorce and the birth of her daughter and having
moved back to Scotland from Portugal. But a lot of the "public"
school references are from her own experience, so her family must have
been at least moderately well to do to be able to send her to a
"public" school.

[David Smith]

Post by Ken
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 19:01:45 -0700, "Desideria"

Post by Desideria

Post by Jette

Post by Desideria

Post by denaldo
<snip>

Post by Harry Andruschak
Will Rowlings really kill off Harry Potter and the Enormous Royalty
Cheques? She has no other literary efforts.

She (J.K.) is richer than the Queen, for ghod's sake! There is a
limit to how much money one can spend in a lifetime, and I believe
she's well over that limit. If she kills him off and doesn't earn a
single additional royalty check for the rest of her life, do you think
she'll ever drop below the poverty line? I don't think so...

Depends on how her money is managed, or mismanaged.

her money will be well managed - it's not like she's actually from a
background of poverty in the first instance.

Really? I'd heard that she was 'on the dole' (??) when she started writing
the books.
Desideria

That was after her divorce and the birth of her daughter and having
moved back to Scotland from Portugal. But a lot of the "public"
school references are from her own experience, so her family must have been
at least moderately well to do to be able to send her to a "public" school.

That's one thing that's always thrown me as regards references to public
school in British fiction (I read a lot of detective fiction, off-and-on).
What differentiates public schools from regular schools, what is a
regular school, and how does one qualify to enter a public school, as
compared to a regular-plain-ordinary school?

[Tim]

On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 20:41:34 -0500, "David Smith"

Post by David Smith

Post by Ken
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 19:01:45 -0700, "Desideria"

Post by Desideria

Post by Jette

Post by Desideria

Post by denaldo
<snip>

Post by Harry Andruschak
Will Rowlings really kill off Harry Potter and the Enormous Royalty
Cheques? She has no other literary efforts.

She (J.K.) is richer than the Queen, for ghod's sake! There is a
limit to how much money one can spend in a lifetime, and I believe
she's well over that limit. If she kills him off and doesn't earn a
single additional royalty check for the rest of her life, do you think
she'll ever drop below the poverty line? I don't think so...

Depends on how her money is managed, or mismanaged.

her money will be well managed - it's not like she's actually from a
background of poverty in the first instance.

Really? I'd heard that she was 'on the dole' (??) when she started writing
the books.
Desideria

That was after her divorce and the birth of her daughter and having
moved back to Scotland from Portugal. But a lot of the "public"
school references are from her own experience, so her family must have been
at least moderately well to do to be able to send her to a "public" school.

That's one thing that's always thrown me as regards references to public
school in British fiction (I read a lot of detective fiction, off-and-on).
What differentiates public schools from regular schools, what is a
regular school, and how does one qualify to enter a public school, as
compared to a regular-plain-ordinary school?

That is why I put "public" in quotes. I'm American and used to
"Public School" referring to the government, usually municipal level
school boards, run K-12 schools, while what the Birts call "public"
schools we would call private, parochially, or prep schools.

[Jette]

Post by David Smith
That's one thing that's always thrown me as regards references to public
school in British fiction (I read a lot of detective fiction, off-and-on).
What differentiates public schools from regular schools, what is a
regular school, and how does one qualify to enter a public school, as
compared to a regular-plain-ordinary school?

"Public" school in England means "private with expensive fees". As
opposed to "publicly funded" (state run) schools.

The reason they're called "public" schools is that when they were
founded, centuries ago, they were open to the /public/ (and in fact most
offered bursaries and scholarships to "worthy" boys of poor family),
instead of the private tutors nobility and the wealthy would hire for
their own children. Or church schools where the youngsters were already
promised to the church as monks or priests.

(I'm using male terms, because at this point they'd have been all male.
Girls' schools came later, mixed public schools are a fairly recent
innovation - within my lifetime)

They usually still have a few scholarship and bursary pupils - I got a
scholarship to a private girls' school in Glasgow when I was 11 years
old (based on IQ - 3000 girls took the exams that year and 120 were
selected, only a dozen or so were "scholarship" - ie free - pupils) -
most families will have to pay several thousand pounds per year to send
their children there. You'll usually find that sons and daughters will
follow their fathers and grandfathers to the same school - their names
being put down on the waiting list at birth - or even before!

We know that Harry inherited a fair bit of wizardly funds from his
parents, stored in the wizard bank until Hagrid takes him there, aged
11. Possibly even a trust fund. His name probably went on the list for
the school as soon as he was born. When his parents died, their will(s)
probably had a clause that Harry's school fees were paid in advance out
of the estate. No doubt some sum of money, in muggle form, was being
paid to the Dursleys for his keep. (otherwise that pair would have
dumped the kid on social services, blood kin or no). The Weasley family
might be scholarships - they're poor but brilliant. The Malfoys will be
paying full fees - in fact they're probably proud of it - not because
they're too stupid to get scholarships, but because they're snobbish
enough to *want* to pay full price!

[Matthew Amsel]

Jette wrote:
<snip>

Post by Jette
We know that Harry inherited a fair bit of wizardly funds from his
parents, stored in the wizard bank until Hagrid takes him there, aged
11. Possibly even a trust fund. His name probably went on the list for
the school as soon as he was born. When his parents died, their will(s)
probably had a clause that Harry's school fees were paid in advance out
of the estate. No doubt some sum of money, in muggle form, was being
paid to the Dursleys for his keep. (otherwise that pair would have
dumped the kid on social services, blood kin or no). The Weasley family
might be scholarships - they're poor but brilliant. The Malfoys will be
paying full fees - in fact they're probably proud of it - not because
they're too stupid to get scholarships, but because they're snobbish
enough to *want* to pay full price!

Here's one for you. How do wizard kids learn what they need pre-Hogwart?
Is there a wizarding elementary school system? All home schooling?
Tutors? They need a fair level of literacy and some math (going straight
into complicated textbooks, and potion formulas).
--
"Forget the Force. Trust in the spread of the gauge."

"If knowledge creates problems, ignorance will not solve them"
-Isaac Asimov.

I try not to repeat my mistakes. That way, I can invent exciting new
ones to make.

"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'nice doggy' until you can find a rock."
-Will Rogers

"Cry 'CHEEBLE' and let slip the hamsters of war."
-Esther Freisner

"Those who learn from history are condemned to watch others repeat it."
- Henry Kissinger

[denaldo]

Post by denaldo
<snip>

Post by Jette
We know that Harry inherited a fair bit of wizardly funds from his
parents, stored in the wizard bank until Hagrid takes him there, aged
11. Possibly even a trust fund. His name probably went on the list
for the school as soon as he was born. When his parents died, their
will(s) probably had a clause that Harry's school fees were paid in
advance out of the estate. No doubt some sum of money, in muggle
form, was being paid to the Dursleys for his keep. (otherwise that
pair would have dumped the kid on social services, blood kin or no).
The Weasley family might be scholarships - they're poor but
brilliant. The Malfoys will be paying full fees - in fact they're
probably proud of it - not because they're too stupid to get
scholarships, but because they're snobbish enough to *want* to pay
full price!

Here's one for you. How do wizard kids learn what they need pre-Hogwart?
Is there a wizarding elementary school system? All home schooling?
Tutors? They need a fair level of literacy and some math (going straight
into complicated textbooks, and potion formulas).

It seems to me that Hogwart's picks up just when the
talent begin to emerge. Apparently it is something
that comes on at a certain age, (like "Spark" in the
Girl Genius comic.) Other than the snake and the
"parsel tongue" incident at the zoo (which is arguably
something other than magic) Harry didn't seem to exhibit
any talent until around the time the notices began to
arrive. I'm sure Hermione may have studied a bit on her
own earlier, and you can bet your sweet bippie Malfoy
was "prepped", but i think most young wizards began
their training with Hogwart's.

[Matthew Amsel]

Post by denaldo

Post by denaldo
<snip>

Post by Jette
We know that Harry inherited a fair bit of wizardly funds from his
parents, stored in the wizard bank until Hagrid takes him there, aged
11. Possibly even a trust fund. His name probably went on the list
for the school as soon as he was born. When his parents died, their
will(s) probably had a clause that Harry's school fees were paid in
advance out of the estate. No doubt some sum of money, in muggle
form, was being paid to the Dursleys for his keep. (otherwise that
pair would have dumped the kid on social services, blood kin or no).
The Weasley family might be scholarships - they're poor but
brilliant. The Malfoys will be paying full fees - in fact they're
probably proud of it - not because they're too stupid to get
scholarships, but because they're snobbish enough to *want* to pay
full price!

Here's one for you. How do wizard kids learn what they need
pre-Hogwart? Is there a wizarding elementary school system? All home
schooling? Tutors? They need a fair level of literacy and some math
(going straight into complicated textbooks, and potion formulas).

It seems to me that Hogwart's picks up just when the
talent begin to emerge. Apparently it is something
that comes on at a certain age, (like "Spark" in the
Girl Genius comic.) Other than the snake and the
"parsel tongue" incident at the zoo (which is arguably
something other than magic) Harry didn't seem to exhibit
any talent until around the time the notices began to
arrive. I'm sure Hermione may have studied a bit on her
own earlier, and you can bet your sweet bippie Malfoy
was "prepped", but i think most young wizards began
their training with Hogwart's.

Ok, but where do the basic reading/writing/math skills come from? It's
not like wizard kids go to muggle elementary schools.
--
"Forget the Force. Trust in the spread of the gauge."

"If knowledge creates problems, ignorance will not solve them"
-Isaac Asimov.

I try not to repeat my mistakes. That way, I can invent exciting new
ones to make.

"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'nice doggy' until you can find a rock."
-Will Rogers

"Cry 'CHEEBLE' and let slip the hamsters of war."
-Esther Freisner

"Those who learn from history are condemned to watch others repeat it."
- Henry Kissinger

[Tim]

On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 17:47:59 -0400, Matthew Amsel

Post by denaldo
<snip>

Post by Jette
We know that Harry inherited a fair bit of wizardly funds from his
parents, stored in the wizard bank until Hagrid takes him there, aged
11. Possibly even a trust fund. His name probably went on the list for
the school as soon as he was born. When his parents died, their will(s)
probably had a clause that Harry's school fees were paid in advance out
of the estate. No doubt some sum of money, in muggle form, was being
paid to the Dursleys for his keep. (otherwise that pair would have
dumped the kid on social services, blood kin or no). The Weasley family
might be scholarships - they're poor but brilliant. The Malfoys will be
paying full fees - in fact they're probably proud of it - not because
they're too stupid to get scholarships, but because they're snobbish
enough to *want* to pay full price!

Here's one for you. How do wizard kids learn what they need pre-Hogwart?
Is there a wizarding elementary school system? All home schooling?
Tutors? They need a fair level of literacy and some math (going straight
into complicated textbooks, and potion formulas).

According to my wife, who's the real Potter fan, and who, I think, got
it from an interview with Rolling, before Hogworts Harry, Hermiony,
and Collin Creevy, would have gone to muggle primary schools. I don't
know about kids raised in the wizarding world, probably home schooled.

[Firesong]

Post by Jette
They usually still have a few scholarship and bursary pupils - I got a
scholarship to a private girls' school in Glasgow when I was 11 years
old

'Looking over his shoulder for Fast Eddie'

Oh, which one, if you don't mind me asking? I was at public school in
Glasgow. As I am male, however, probably not the same one.

Firesong

[Jette]

Post by Firesong

Post by Jette
They usually still have a few scholarship and bursary pupils - I got a
scholarship to a private girls' school in Glasgow when I was 11 years
old

'Looking over his shoulder for Fast Eddie'
Oh, which one, if you don't mind me asking? I was at public school in
Glasgow. As I am male, however, probably not the same one.

"Glasgow High School for Girls".

Now known as "Kelvinside comprehensive" - after I left they stopped
being a fee-paying school and went co-ed.

[denaldo]

Post by Jette

Post by Firesong

Post by Jette
They usually still have a few scholarship and bursary pupils - I got
a scholarship to a private girls' school in Glasgow when I was 11
years old

'Looking over his shoulder for Fast Eddie'
Oh, which one, if you don't mind me asking? I was at public school in
Glasgow. As I am male, however, probably not the same one.

"Glasgow High School for Girls".
Now known as "Kelvinside comprehensive" - after I left they stopped
being a fee-paying school and went co-ed.

Good grief Jette! Stopped the fees and went co-ed?
What did you do to those poor educators??? <grin>

[Firesong]

Post by Jette

Post by Firesong

Post by Jette
They usually still have a few scholarship and bursary pupils - I got a
scholarship to a private girls' school in Glasgow when I was 11 years
old

'Looking over his shoulder for Fast Eddie'
Oh, which one, if you don't mind me asking? I was at public school in
Glasgow. As I am male, however, probably not the same one.

"Glasgow High School for Girls".
Now known as "Kelvinside comprehensive" - after I left they stopped
being a fee-paying school and went co-ed.

"Hutchesons Grammar"

Firesong

[Jette]

Post by Firesong

Post by Jette

Post by Firesong

Post by Jette
They usually still have a few scholarship and bursary pupils - I got a
scholarship to a private girls' school in Glasgow when I was 11 years
old

'Looking over his shoulder for Fast Eddie'
Oh, which one, if you don't mind me asking? I was at public school in
Glasgow. As I am male, however, probably not the same one.

"Glasgow High School for Girls".
Now known as "Kelvinside comprehensive" - after I left they stopped
being a fee-paying school and went co-ed.

"Hutchesons Grammar"

Ah - couple of the boys from my Primary 7 class took the exams for that
one. I think one of them got through.

[Joyce of Pendle]

Post by David Smith
That's one thing that's always thrown me as regards references to
public school in British fiction (I read a lot of detective
fiction, off-and-on). What differentiates public schools from
regular schools, what is a regular school, and how does one
qualify to enter a public school, as compared to a
regular-plain-ordinary school?

The name comes from the way-old days, when most gentlemen [upper
upper class] had their children educated privately - tutors and
governesses came to live with the family. Think "Sound of Music"
but in real life the Trapp children had a tutor (boys) or governess
(girls) each. Public school was where gentlemen's sons (and later
daughters) lived together away from home and shared tutors. (Public
schools now are usually co-ed and not residential.) Much later,
Sunday schools and board (not boarding, which = residential)
schools were established for the great unwashed (us).

Joyce of Pendle (resident in USA for 21 years and in England for 40).

[Firesong]

On Mon, 16 Jul 2007 20:41:34 -0500, "David Smith"

Post by David Smith
That's one thing that's always thrown me as regards references to public
school in British fiction (I read a lot of detective fiction, off-and-on).
What differentiates public schools from regular schools, what is a
regular school, and how does one qualify to enter a public school, as
compared to a regular-plain-ordinary school?

That's easy, as long as you remember the definitions are British.

A public school is a private enterprise, funded (at least in part) by
the students (or more likely their parents) paying fees.

The schools which are funded by the public and (theoretically) open to
all are 'state' or 'comprehensive' schools.

So, public = private and comprehensive = public.

Clear?

Firesong

[David Smith]

Post by denaldo
We have ten days to hash it out, so we might as well get
started. Is Rowlings going to mortify millions of fans
by killing off Harry? Personally, I will only hunt her
down and slap her if she kills Hermione. I think she
will try to do what Arthur Conan Doyle couldn't and take
the hero out so that neither she nor anyone else can
run him through the ringer anymore.

Arthur Conan Doyle, like many a writer with a popular series, seems to have
felt that Sherlock Holmes was drawing attention away from his more serious,
more literary work. Hence the attempt to get rid of him. Will Rowlings
really kill off Harry Potter and the Enormous Royalty Cheques? She has no
other literary efforts.
My speculation: Harry and Hermione wind up engaged at the end of this
book, with plenty of room for money-making sequels.

Well, hey, after all, it's Harry Potter, who AFAIK wasn't the Messiah and
doesn't need to go on forever. He's a fictional character, and after a
certain point there's nothing more for the author to say about the
character. It should end elegantly, before it ends in a pathetic and ugly
fashion, with Harry on waterskis jumping over a shark, for example.

Dead, maybe, not so much. But done at some point, I sure as hell hope so,
before it turns into a Saturday morning cartoon series with promotional
action figures and what-not.

Assuming there aren't action figures already. If there are, there's no
reason to take the series seriously anymore, anyway.

[Ed]

Post by Harry Andruschak

Post by denaldo
We have ten days to hash it out, so we might as well get
started. Is Rowlings going to mortify millions of fans
by killing off Harry? Personally, I will only hunt her
down and slap her if she kills Hermione. I think she
will try to do what Arthur Conan Doyle couldn't and take
the hero out so that neither she nor anyone else can
run him through the ringer anymore.

Arthur Conan Doyle, like many a writer with a popular series, seems to
have felt that Sherlock Holmes was drawing attention away from his
more serious, more literary work. Hence the attempt to get rid of him.
Will Rowlings really kill off Harry Potter and the Enormous Royalty
Cheques? She has no other literary efforts.
My speculation: Harry and Hermione wind up engaged at the end of this
book, with plenty of room for money-making sequels.

Agatha Christie killed off Hurcule Poriot and Miss Marple on the
theory that as she was pretty much on her death bed, she didn't want
anyone else taking these characters over after she died.

Having said that, JKR is certainly <not> on her death bed!

...and everybody knows it's going to be <Ron> and Hermione!

[Rowan Hawthorn]

Post by Ed

Post by Harry Andruschak

Post by denaldo
We have ten days to hash it out, so we might as well get
started. Is Rowlings going to mortify millions of fans
by killing off Harry? Personally, I will only hunt her
down and slap her if she kills Hermione. I think she
will try to do what Arthur Conan Doyle couldn't and take
the hero out so that neither she nor anyone else can
run him through the ringer anymore.

Arthur Conan Doyle, like many a writer with a popular series, seems to
have felt that Sherlock Holmes was drawing attention away from his
more serious, more literary work. Hence the attempt to get rid of him.
Will Rowlings really kill off Harry Potter and the Enormous Royalty
Cheques? She has no other literary efforts.
My speculation: Harry and Hermione wind up engaged at the end of this
book, with plenty of room for money-making sequels.

Agatha Christie killed off Hurcule Poriot and Miss Marple on the
theory that as she was pretty much on her death bed, she didn't want
anyone else taking these characters over after she died.

Peter O'Donnell did the same with Modesty Blaise and Willie Garvin.

Not sure that would stop anyone, though, if they could manage to secure
either permission or the copyright from the estate.

[Ed]

Post by Rowan Hawthorn

Post by Ed

Post by Harry Andruschak

Post by denaldo
We have ten days to hash it out, so we might as well get
started. Is Rowlings going to mortify millions of fans
by killing off Harry? Personally, I will only hunt her
down and slap her if she kills Hermione. I think she
will try to do what Arthur Conan Doyle couldn't and take
the hero out so that neither she nor anyone else can
run him through the ringer anymore.

Arthur Conan Doyle, like many a writer with a popular series, seems to
have felt that Sherlock Holmes was drawing attention away from his
more serious, more literary work. Hence the attempt to get rid of him.
Will Rowlings really kill off Harry Potter and the Enormous Royalty
Cheques? She has no other literary efforts.
My speculation: Harry and Hermione wind up engaged at the end of this
book, with plenty of room for money-making sequels.

Agatha Christie killed off Hurcule Poriot and Miss Marple on the
theory that as she was pretty much on her death bed, she didn't want
anyone else taking these characters over after she died.

Peter O'Donnell did the same with Modesty Blaise and Willie Garvin.
Not sure that would stop anyone, though, if they could manage to secure
either permission or the copyright from the estate.

They killed off Modesty Blaise???? Nooooooooo!

[Jette]

Post by Ed

Post by Rowan Hawthorn

Post by Ed

Post by Harry Andruschak

Post by denaldo
We have ten days to hash it out, so we might as well get
started. Is Rowlings going to mortify millions of fans
by killing off Harry? Personally, I will only hunt her
down and slap her if she kills Hermione. I think she
will try to do what Arthur Conan Doyle couldn't and take
the hero out so that neither she nor anyone else can
run him through the ringer anymore.

Arthur Conan Doyle, like many a writer with a popular series, seems to
have felt that Sherlock Holmes was drawing attention away from his
more serious, more literary work. Hence the attempt to get rid of him.
Will Rowlings really kill off Harry Potter and the Enormous Royalty
Cheques? She has no other literary efforts.
My speculation: Harry and Hermione wind up engaged at the end of this
book, with plenty of room for money-making sequels.

Agatha Christie killed off Hurcule Poriot and Miss Marple on the
theory that as she was pretty much on her death bed, she didn't want
anyone else taking these characters over after she died.

Peter O'Donnell did the same with Modesty Blaise and Willie Garvin.
Not sure that would stop anyone, though, if they could manage to secure
either permission or the copyright from the estate.

They killed off Modesty Blaise???? Nooooooooo!

She died well.

[Ed]

Post by Jette

Post by Ed

Post by Rowan Hawthorn

Post by Ed
Agatha Christie killed off Hurcule Poriot and Miss Marple on the
theory that as she was pretty much on her death bed, she didn't want
anyone else taking these characters over after she died.

Peter O'Donnell did the same with Modesty Blaise and Willie Garvin.
Not sure that would stop anyone, though, if they could manage to secure
either permission or the copyright from the estate.

They killed off Modesty Blaise???? Nooooooooo!

She died well.

Not good enough!

[D.J.]

On Sat, 21 Jul 2007 16:04:02 -0700, Ed <***@hotmail.com> wrote:
]On Jul 21, 7:00 pm, Jette <***@scotlandmail.com> wrote:
]> Ed wrote:
]> > They killed off Modesty Blaise???? Nooooooooo!
]>
]> She died well.
]
]Not good enough!

I found the movie on dvd in a discount bin in a family dollar (US
discount store) store. Paid about 2 dollars for it. So her and Willy
Garvin live on in reruns.

D.J.

[Tim]

Post by Ed

Post by Harry Andruschak

Post by denaldo
We have ten days to hash it out, so we might as well get
started. Is Rowlings going to mortify millions of fans
by killing off Harry? Personally, I will only hunt her
down and slap her if she kills Hermione. I think she
will try to do what Arthur Conan Doyle couldn't and take
the hero out so that neither she nor anyone else can
run him through the ringer anymore.

Arthur Conan Doyle, like many a writer with a popular series, seems to
have felt that Sherlock Holmes was drawing attention away from his
more serious, more literary work. Hence the attempt to get rid of him.
Will Rowlings really kill off Harry Potter and the Enormous Royalty
Cheques? She has no other literary efforts.
My speculation: Harry and Hermione wind up engaged at the end of this
book, with plenty of room for money-making sequels.

Agatha Christie killed off Hurcule Poriot and Miss Marple on the
theory that as she was pretty much on her death bed, she didn't want
anyone else taking these characters over after she died.
Having said that, JKR is certainly <not> on her death bed!
...and everybody knows it's going to be <Ron> and Hermione!

Of course it will be Ron and Hermione, and Harry and Jenny, but perve
that I am, I'm still a Ron/Jenny shipper.

[Ken]

Post by denaldo
(This is to be all opinion and conjecture. If you had a Time
Lord hand you an advance copy, keep the spoilers to yourself,
thank you.)(This also goes for a certain Musquodoboit Harbour
Farm Cat that I know has connections with Russian mafia
figures within the publishing industry and a penchant for
bribed insider information to go with his 32% cream)
We have ten days to hash it out, so we might as well get
started. Is Rowlings going to mortify millions of fans
by killing off Harry? Personally, I will only hunt her
down and slap her if she kills Hermione. I think she
will try to do what Arthur Conan Doyle couldn't and take
the hero out so that neither she nor anyone else can
run him through the ringer anymore.
My wildest speculation? The flying car that went feral
and dissappeared into the forest will make a surprise,
heroic appearance in chapter 29.

The actor playing HP in the films is strongly pushing for Harry's
death. [He wants to play a death scene!!]. He believes that the
premise of the books & ongoing story can only be resolved through a
"mutual kill" whereby Harry takes out LV & dies in the process.

Of course, one possible twist is that the partial merger begun the
first time LV blasts Harry as an infant becomes complete & Harry
becomes LV.

[The TheatrElf]

Post by Ken

Post by denaldo
We have ten days to hash it out, so we might as well get
started. Is Rowlings going to mortify millions of fans
by killing off Harry? Personally, I will only hunt her
down and slap her if she kills Hermione. I think she
will try to do what Arthur Conan Doyle couldn't and take
the hero out so that neither she nor anyone else can
run him through the ringer anymore.
My wildest speculation? The flying car that went feral
and dissappeared into the forest will make a surprise,
heroic appearance in chapter 29.

The actor playing HP in the films is strongly pushing for
Harry's death. [He wants to play a death scene!!]. He
believes that the premise of the books & ongoing story can
only be resolved through a "mutual kill" whereby Harry takes
out LV & dies in the process.

"If you strike me down, you will only make me more powerful than
ever before!"

[denaldo]

Ken wrote:

<snip>

Post by Ken
Of course, one possible twist is that the partial merger begun the
first time LV blasts Harry as an infant becomes complete & Harry
becomes LV.

She has explicitly repudiated that rumor on her
website.

[Wesley Struebing]

Post by Ken

Post by denaldo
(This is to be all opinion and conjecture. If you had a Time
Lord hand you an advance copy, keep the spoilers to yourself,
thank you.)(This also goes for a certain Musquodoboit Harbour
Farm Cat that I know has connections with Russian mafia
figures within the publishing industry and a penchant for
bribed insider information to go with his 32% cream)
We have ten days to hash it out, so we might as well get
started. Is Rowlings going to mortify millions of fans
by killing off Harry? Personally, I will only hunt her
down and slap her if she kills Hermione. I think she
will try to do what Arthur Conan Doyle couldn't and take
the hero out so that neither she nor anyone else can
run him through the ringer anymore.
My wildest speculation? The flying car that went feral
and dissappeared into the forest will make a surprise,
heroic appearance in chapter 29.

The actor playing HP in the films is strongly pushing for Harry's
death. [He wants to play a death scene!!]. He believes that the
premise of the books & ongoing story can only be resolved through a
"mutual kill" whereby Harry takes out LV & dies in the process.
Of course, one possible twist is that the partial merger begun the
first time LV blasts Harry as an infant becomes complete & Harry
becomes LV.

I've heard both (mostly the "M.A.D. scenario). Not sure which one I
care for...(probably the first, as long she *really* kills him off)

--

Wes Struebing

I pledge allegiance to the Constitution of the United States of America,
and to the republic which it established, one nation from many peoples,
promising liberty and justice for all.

[The Rocket Scientist]

Post by denaldo
(This is to be all opinion and conjecture. If you had a Time
Lord hand you an advance copy, keep the spoilers to yourself,
thank you.)(This also goes for a certain Musquodoboit Harbour
Farm Cat that I know has connections with Russian mafia
figures within the publishing industry and a penchant for
bribed insider information to go with his 32% cream)
We have ten days to hash it out, so we might as well get
started. Is Rowlings going to mortify millions of fans
by killing off Harry? Personally, I will only hunt her
down and slap her if she kills Hermione. I think she
will try to do what Arthur Conan Doyle couldn't and take
the hero out so that neither she nor anyone else can
run him through the ringer anymore.
My wildest speculation? The flying car that went feral
and dissappeared into the forest will make a surprise,
heroic appearance in chapter 29.
--
"The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes
a little longer." Cheney administration; GWB, figurehead.

Harry and Voldemort finally have it out in a drinking contest.
Voldemort passes out after his 25th butterbeer. Harry finishes his
brew and proclaims, "Let the bum lie there!" All the while, Ron and
Hermoine complete their final master stroke and take over the world.
Snape quits magic and opens a taco stand in Diagon Alley with Hagrid.
Dumbledore is still dead, but news of his death boost sales of an
otherwise ignored music CD, "Dumbledore Goes Hawaiian," which goes
platinum.

Bill Sullivan

[Jai Rose]

"I don't think she'll kill off Harry," says GrannyWench, frowning in
thought. "Cecil, and maybe one of the Weasley twins, though."

Jai
³When we lose the right to be different, we lose the privilege to be free.²
Charles Evans Hughes

[Jette]

Post by Jai Rose
"I don't think she'll kill off Harry," says GrannyWench, frowning in
thought. "Cecil, and maybe one of the Weasley twins, though."

I'm _sure_ she'll kill off Harry. She's been pretty predictable so far.

[m***@gmail.com]

Post by Jette

Post by Jai Rose
"I don't think she'll kill off Harry," says GrannyWench, frowning in
thought. "Cecil, and maybe one of the Weasley twins, though."

I'm _sure_ she'll kill off Harry. She's been pretty predictable so far.

"And Harry's final, softly whispered word before dying? 'Rosebud'."

"Oops, sorry for that spoiler!" the purple guy grins...

(Hey, I could have suggested Hermione shouting "As
Dumbledore is my witness, I'll never be hungry again!")

-=-=-=-=-=-=-
/*, purple guy, Mike Holmes...
who don't know nothin' 'bout birthin' babies...

[Dave]

Post by m***@gmail.com

Post by Jette

Post by Jai Rose
"I don't think she'll kill off Harry," says GrannyWench, frowning in
thought. "Cecil, and maybe one of the Weasley twins, though."

I'm _sure_ she'll kill off Harry. She's been pretty predictable so far.

"And Harry's final, softly whispered word before dying? 'Rosebud'."
"Oops, sorry for that spoiler!" the purple guy grins...
(Hey, I could have suggested Hermione shouting "As
Dumbledore is my witness, I'll never be hungry again!")
-=-=-=-=-=-=-
/*, purple guy, Mike Holmes...
who don't know nothin' 'bout birthin' babies...

Snapes exits, shouting "By Grapthor's Hammer, I shall avenge thee!" ;)

Dave

[Wesley Struebing]

Post by Dave

Post by m***@gmail.com

Post by Jette

Post by Jai Rose
"I don't think she'll kill off Harry," says GrannyWench, frowning in
thought. "Cecil, and maybe one of the Weasley twins, though."

I'm _sure_ she'll kill off Harry. She's been pretty predictable so far.

"And Harry's final, softly whispered word before dying? 'Rosebud'."
"Oops, sorry for that spoiler!" the purple guy grins...
(Hey, I could have suggested Hermione shouting "As
Dumbledore is my witness, I'll never be hungry again!")
-=-=-=-=-=-=-
/*, purple guy, Mike Holmes...
who don't know nothin' 'bout birthin' babies...

Snapes exits, shouting "By Grapthor's Hammer, I shall avenge thee!" ;)

Weasley shrieks, "Frankly, Harry, I don't give a damn!"

--

Wes Struebing

I pledge allegiance to the Constitution of the United States of America,
and to the republic which it established, one nation from many peoples,
promising liberty and justice for all.

[Matthew Amsel]

Post by Wesley Struebing

Post by Dave

Post by m***@gmail.com

Post by Jette

Post by Jai Rose
"I don't think she'll kill off Harry," says GrannyWench, frowning in
thought. "Cecil, and maybe one of the Weasley twins, though."

I'm _sure_ she'll kill off Harry. She's been pretty predictable so far.

"And Harry's final, softly whispered word before dying? 'Rosebud'."
"Oops, sorry for that spoiler!" the purple guy grins...
(Hey, I could have suggested Hermione shouting "As
Dumbledore is my witness, I'll never be hungry again!")
-=-=-=-=-=-=-
/*, purple guy, Mike Holmes...
who don't know nothin' 'bout birthin' babies...

Snapes exits, shouting "By Grapthor's Hammer, I shall avenge thee!" ;)

Weasley shrieks, "Frankly, Harry, I don't give a damn!"

Neville looks around. "Groovy"
--
"Forget the Force. Trust in the spread of the gauge."

"If knowledge creates problems, ignorance will not solve them"
-Isaac Asimov.

I try not to repeat my mistakes. That way, I can invent exciting new
ones to make.

"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'nice doggy' until you can find a rock."
-Will Rogers

"Cry 'CHEEBLE' and let slip the hamsters of war."
-Esther Freisner

"Those who learn from history are condemned to watch others repeat it."
- Henry Kissinger

[russ]

Post by Dave
Snapes exits, shouting "By Grapthor's Hammer, I shall avenge thee!" ;)
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This is just too good!
russ

[Ed]

Post by m***@gmail.com

Post by Jette

Post by Jai Rose
"I don't think she'll kill off Harry," says GrannyWench, frowning in
thought. "Cecil, and maybe one of the Weasley twins, though."

I'm _sure_ she'll kill off Harry. She's been pretty predictable so far.

"And Harry's final, softly whispered word before dying? 'Rosebud'."
"Oops, sorry for that spoiler!" the purple guy grins...
(Hey, I could have suggested Hermione shouting "As
Dumbledore is my witness, I'll never be hungry again!")
-=-=-=-=-=-=-
/*, purple guy, Mike Holmes...
who don't know nothin' 'bout birthin' babies...

...as everything falls to pieces, Hermione is killed at the wheel of
the living car and Voldemort walks off with Luna Lovegood, Ron turns a
stricken Harry aside and comforts him with the words; "It's Hogwarts,
Harry."

[Matthew Amsel]

Post by Ed

Post by m***@gmail.com

Post by Jette

Post by Jai Rose
"I don't think she'll kill off Harry," says GrannyWench, frowning in
thought. "Cecil, and maybe one of the Weasley twins, though."

I'm _sure_ she'll kill off Harry. She's been pretty predictable so far.

"And Harry's final, softly whispered word before dying? 'Rosebud'."
"Oops, sorry for that spoiler!" the purple guy grins...
(Hey, I could have suggested Hermione shouting "As
Dumbledore is my witness, I'll never be hungry again!")
-=-=-=-=-=-=-
/*, purple guy, Mike Holmes...
who don't know nothin' 'bout birthin' babies...

...as everything falls to pieces, Hermione is killed at the wheel of
the living car and Voldemort walks off with Luna Lovegood, Ron turns a
stricken Harry aside and comforts him with the words; "It's Hogwarts,
Harry."

See, I always liked the idea that Harry's secret weapon was the muggle
world Voldemort disdained ("the power the dark lord knows not"). Why
spell duel a more powerful wizard when a shotgun will do the job quite
nicely?

I can just see it now: "Avada - <KABOOM>"
--
"Forget the Force. Trust in the spread of the gauge."

"If knowledge creates problems, ignorance will not solve them"
-Isaac Asimov.

I try not to repeat my mistakes. That way, I can invent exciting new
ones to make.

"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'nice doggy' until you can find a rock."
-Will Rogers

"Cry 'CHEEBLE' and let slip the hamsters of war."
-Esther Freisner

"Those who learn from history are condemned to watch others repeat it."
- Henry Kissinger

[denaldo]

Post by Matthew Amsel

Post by Ed

Post by m***@gmail.com

Post by Jette

Post by Jai Rose
"I don't think she'll kill off Harry," says GrannyWench, frowning in
thought. "Cecil, and maybe one of the Weasley twins, though."

I'm _sure_ she'll kill off Harry. She's been pretty predictable so far.

"And Harry's final, softly whispered word before dying? 'Rosebud'."
"Oops, sorry for that spoiler!" the purple guy grins...
(Hey, I could have suggested Hermione shouting "As
Dumbledore is my witness, I'll never be hungry again!")
-=-=-=-=-=-=-
/*, purple guy, Mike Holmes...
who don't know nothin' 'bout birthin' babies...

...as everything falls to pieces, Hermione is killed at the wheel of
the living car and Voldemort walks off with Luna Lovegood, Ron turns a
stricken Harry aside and comforts him with the words; "It's Hogwarts,
Harry."

See, I always liked the idea that Harry's secret weapon was the muggle
world Voldemort disdained ("the power the dark lord knows not"). Why
spell duel a more powerful wizard when a shotgun will do the job quite
nicely?
I can just see it now: "Avada - <KABOOM>"

I take it you've seen Bakshi's film "Wizards"?
(I always thought that was the inspiration for Indiana
Jones shooting the swordsman in his first movie)
(though I've heard the tale that Harrison was sick
and ad-libbed it to get out of any more stunt work
that day.)

[Ken]

Post by denaldo

Post by Matthew Amsel

Post by Ed

Post by m***@gmail.com

Post by Jette

Post by Jai Rose
"I don't think she'll kill off Harry," says GrannyWench, frowning in
thought. "Cecil, and maybe one of the Weasley twins, though."

I'm _sure_ she'll kill off Harry. She's been pretty predictable so far.

"And Harry's final, softly whispered word before dying? 'Rosebud'."
"Oops, sorry for that spoiler!" the purple guy grins...
(Hey, I could have suggested Hermione shouting "As
Dumbledore is my witness, I'll never be hungry again!")
-=-=-=-=-=-=-
/*, purple guy, Mike Holmes...
who don't know nothin' 'bout birthin' babies...

...as everything falls to pieces, Hermione is killed at the wheel of
the living car and Voldemort walks off with Luna Lovegood, Ron turns a
stricken Harry aside and comforts him with the words; "It's Hogwarts,
Harry."

See, I always liked the idea that Harry's secret weapon was the muggle
world Voldemort disdained ("the power the dark lord knows not"). Why
spell duel a more powerful wizard when a shotgun will do the job quite
nicely?
I can just see it now: "Avada - <KABOOM>"

I take it you've seen Bakshi's film "Wizards"?
(I always thought that was the inspiration for Indiana
Jones shooting the swordsman in his first movie)
(though I've heard the tale that Harrison was sick
and ad-libbed it to get out of any more stunt work
that day.)

IIRC, Harrison himself told it as sick/ad lib when interviewed on the
Actors Studio. He was exhausted & possibly a bit dehydrated, and a
little upset that the sequence was rolling through to a new scene.

[Matthew Amsel]

Post by denaldo

Post by Matthew Amsel

Post by Ed

Post by m***@gmail.com

Post by Jette

Post by Jai Rose
"I don't think she'll kill off Harry," says GrannyWench, frowning in
thought. "Cecil, and maybe one of the Weasley twins, though."

I'm _sure_ she'll kill off Harry. She's been pretty predictable so far.

"And Harry's final, softly whispered word before dying? 'Rosebud'."
"Oops, sorry for that spoiler!" the purple guy grins...
(Hey, I could have suggested Hermione shouting "As
Dumbledore is my witness, I'll never be hungry again!")
-=-=-=-=-=-=-
/*, purple guy, Mike Holmes...
who don't know nothin' 'bout birthin' babies...

...as everything falls to pieces, Hermione is killed at the wheel of
the living car and Voldemort walks off with Luna Lovegood, Ron turns a
stricken Harry aside and comforts him with the words; "It's Hogwarts,
Harry."

See, I always liked the idea that Harry's secret weapon was the muggle
world Voldemort disdained ("the power the dark lord knows not"). Why
spell duel a more powerful wizard when a shotgun will do the job quite
nicely?
I can just see it now: "Avada - <KABOOM>"

I take it you've seen Bakshi's film "Wizards"?
(I always thought that was the inspiration for Indiana
Jones shooting the swordsman in his first movie)
(though I've heard the tale that Harrison was sick
and ad-libbed it to get out of any more stunt work
that day.)

Can't say as I have. Is it good?
--
"Forget the Force. Trust in the spread of the gauge."

"If knowledge creates problems, ignorance will not solve them"
-Isaac Asimov.

I try not to repeat my mistakes. That way, I can invent exciting new
ones to make.

"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'nice doggy' until you can find a rock."
-Will Rogers

"Cry 'CHEEBLE' and let slip the hamsters of war."
-Esther Freisner

"Those who learn from history are condemned to watch others repeat it."
- Henry Kissinger

[denaldo]

<snip>

Post by Matthew Amsel

Post by denaldo

Post by Matthew Amsel
See, I always liked the idea that Harry's secret weapon was the
muggle world Voldemort disdained ("the power the dark lord knows
not"). Why spell duel a more powerful wizard when a shotgun will do
the job quite nicely?
I can just see it now: "Avada - <KABOOM>"

I take it you've seen Bakshi's film "Wizards"?
(I always thought that was the inspiration for Indiana
Jones shooting the swordsman in his first movie)
(though I've heard the tale that Harrison was sick
and ad-libbed it to get out of any more stunt work
that day.)

Can't say as I have. Is it good?

It's a sort of amusing animated film. First to use
a lot of rotoscoping. Good? Well, I liked it, but it
was one of those early seventies films rather aimed
at pot-smokers. In a post apocalyptic world, twins
are born to a powerful wizard woman. One bad, one
good. The bad one tries to take over the world.
You're expecting a big magical battle at the end, but
then Avatar pulls out an ancient secret weapon
that mom (who really did always like him best) had
given him for just such an occasion:
a Colt semi-automatic hand gun.
"I'm glad you changed your last name, you son-of-a-bitch"
BANG!
No "Fritz the Cat" but worlds better than his
awful "Lord of the Rings" attempt. All of his
movies were mixes of small treasures and pure dreck,
with very 'hippie' sensibilities.

[Captain Jack]

denaldo <***@verizPOINTon.net> spoke into the aether news:_m0oi.6878
$***@trnddc06:

<snip>

Post by denaldo
It's a sort of amusing animated film. First to use
a lot of rotoscoping. Good? Well, I liked it, but it
was one of those early seventies films rather aimed
at pot-smokers. In a post apocalyptic world, twins
are born to a powerful wizard woman. One bad, one
good. The bad one tries to take over the world.
You're expecting a big magical battle at the end, but
then Avatar pulls out an ancient secret weapon
that mom (who really did always like him best) had
a Colt semi-automatic hand gun.
"I'm glad you changed your last name, you son-of-a-bitch"
BANG!
No "Fritz the Cat" but worlds better than his
awful "Lord of the Rings" attempt. All of his
movies were mixes of small treasures and pure dreck,
with very 'hippie' sensibilities.

Who can forget;

"They've killed Fritz! They've killed Fritz!..."

-and-

"I wonder if I remembered to pack my Scotch?"

(yes, I have it on VHS).

;-)

The Cap'n

[Captain Jack]

Post by denaldo
You're expecting a big magical battle at the end, but
then Avatar pulls out an ancient secret weapon
that mom (who really did always like him best) had
a Colt semi-automatic hand gun.
"I'm glad you changed your last name, you son-of-a-bitch"
BANG!

Not to pick nits, (and it WAS quite some time ago I saw it), but I *think*
is was a 9mm Luger, not a Colt .45 ACP.

The Cap'n

[denaldo]

Post by Captain Jack

Post by denaldo
You're expecting a big magical battle at the end, but
then Avatar pulls out an ancient secret weapon
that mom (who really did always like him best) had
a Colt semi-automatic hand gun.
"I'm glad you changed your last name, you son-of-a-bitch"
BANG!

Not to pick nits, (and it WAS quite some time ago I saw it), but I *think*
is was a 9mm Luger, not a Colt .45 ACP.
The Cap'n

You're probably right. Working off memory, all I could
remember was that it was a 'WWII' gun.
As Max says when it turns out Fritz isn't dead:
"Oh. Oh, damn. There you go again, stepping on my lines, raining on my
parade, costing me medals. Oh, damn."
(only I won't accidently shoot you afterwards, and
start a whole "They killed the Cap'n" thing all over again.)

[Ed]

Post by Matthew Amsel

Post by denaldo

Post by Matthew Amsel

Post by Ed

Post by m***@gmail.com

Post by Jette

Post by Jai Rose
"I don't think she'll kill off Harry," says GrannyWench, frowning in
thought. "Cecil, and maybe one of the Weasley twins, though."

I'm _sure_ she'll kill off Harry. She's been pretty predictable so far.

"And Harry's final, softly whispered word before dying? 'Rosebud'."
"Oops, sorry for that spoiler!" the purple guy grins...
(Hey, I could have suggested Hermione shouting "As
Dumbledore is my witness, I'll never be hungry again!")
-=-=-=-=-=-=-
/*, purple guy, Mike Holmes...
who don't know nothin' 'bout birthin' babies...

...as everything falls to pieces, Hermione is killed at the wheel of
the living car and Voldemort walks off with Luna Lovegood, Ron turns a
stricken Harry aside and comforts him with the words; "It's Hogwarts,
Harry."

See, I always liked the idea that Harry's secret weapon was the muggle
world Voldemort disdained ("the power the dark lord knows not"). Why
spell duel a more powerful wizard when a shotgun will do the job quite
nicely?
I can just see it now: "Avada - <KABOOM>"

I take it you've seen Bakshi's film "Wizards"?
(I always thought that was the inspiration for Indiana
Jones shooting the swordsman in his first movie)
(though I've heard the tale that Harrison was sick
and ad-libbed it to get out of any more stunt work
that day.)

Can't say as I have. Is it good?

Saw it at a convention. Kinda distastefull to me.

[Ken]

Post by denaldo
(This is to be all opinion and conjecture. If you had a Time
Lord hand you an advance copy, keep the spoilers to yourself,
thank you.)(This also goes for a certain Musquodoboit Harbour
Farm Cat that I know has connections with Russian mafia
figures within the publishing industry and a penchant for
bribed insider information to go with his 32% cream)
We have ten days to hash it out, so we might as well get
started. Is Rowlings going to mortify millions of fans
by killing off Harry? Personally, I will only hunt her
down and slap her if she kills Hermione. I think she
will try to do what Arthur Conan Doyle couldn't and take
the hero out so that neither she nor anyone else can
run him through the ringer anymore.
My wildest speculation? The flying car that went feral
and dissappeared into the forest will make a surprise,
heroic appearance in chapter 29.

In an interview I saw on TV, she says she cried all the way through
writing one of the closing chapters (not the last), so I am assuming
she is killing some of the crew off.

Other things - Malfoy elopes with Ginny Weasley (makes sense - the
Malfoys need the injection of new blood into their line & Ginny is at
least a pureblood. Also, it might be harder for the Ministry to
apprehend the Malfoys if their father in law is in charge.)

[The Rocket Scientist]

Post by denaldo
(This is to be all opinion and conjecture. If you had a Time
Lord hand you an advance copy, keep the spoilers to yourself,
thank you.)

Funny you should mention Time Lords. My Dear Wife and I were
discussing the HP films and suggesting future acting roles for Daniel
Radcliffe. My suggestion was that he should be the next Doctor Who.
DW then wondered who his traveling companion might be. Thoughts?

Bill Sullivan

"I tolerate this century but I don't enjoy it." - The Doctor

[Clothahump]

Post by denaldo
We have ten days to hash it out, so we might as well get
started. Is Rowlings going to mortify millions of fans
by killing off Harry? Personally, I will only hunt her
down and slap her if she kills Hermione. I think she
will try to do what Arthur Conan Doyle couldn't and take
the hero out so that neither she nor anyone else can
run him through the ringer anymore.
My wildest speculation? The flying car that went feral
and dissappeared into the forest will make a surprise,
heroic appearance in chapter 29.

====================
That's a good one!

SWMBO and I have been hashing it out and we have three possible
scenarios for which two major characters bite the dirt sandwich.

1. Dumbledore and Snape die. We all know Dumbledore faked his death at
the end of book 6; he comes back for the final big fight. As he dies,
it is revealed that Snape has been an undercover good guy all along; he
attacks Valdemort, dies in the process (thereby redeeming himself, so to
speak), and softens Valdemort up enough for Harry to finish him off.

2. Snape and Hagrid get killed. Hagrid gets taken out pretty much at
the beginning of the fight. Snape dies pretty much as described in #1,
with Harry and Dumbledore finishing off Valdemort.

3. Ron and Ginny get killed. This removes the possibility of a pairing
of Ron and Hermione, Harry and Ginny, because we have to have the
greatest wizard and the greatest witch of their generation wind up
together at the end. Dumbledore, McGonagall and Snape eventually
retire; Harry winds up as Headmaster and teacher of Defense against the
Dark Arts. Hermione takes McGonagall's place as XO of the school and
teaches the Potions class, as Snape takes a position in the Ministry of
Magic.

[r***@wfubmc.edu]

Post by Clothahump

Post by denaldo
We have ten days to hash it out, so we might as well get
started. Is Rowlings going to mortify millions of fans
by killing off Harry? Personally, I will only hunt her
down and slap her if she kills Hermione. I think she
will try to do what Arthur Conan Doyle couldn't and take
the hero out so that neither she nor anyone else can
run him through the ringer anymore.
My wildest speculation? The flying car that went feral
and dissappeared into the forest will make a surprise,
heroic appearance in chapter 29.

====================
That's a good one!
SWMBO and I have been hashing it out and we have three possible
scenarios for which two major characters bite the dirt sandwich.
1. Dumbledore and Snape die. We all know Dumbledore faked his death at
the end of book 6; he comes back for the final big fight. As he dies,
it is revealed that Snape has been an undercover good guy all along; he
attacks Valdemort, dies in the process (thereby redeeming himself, so to
speak), and softens Valdemort up enough for Harry to finish him off.
2. Snape and Hagrid get killed. Hagrid gets taken out pretty much at
the beginning of the fight. Snape dies pretty much as described in #1,
with Harry and Dumbledore finishing off Valdemort.
3. Ron and Ginny get killed. This removes the possibility of a pairing
of Ron and Hermione, Harry and Ginny, because we have to have the
greatest wizard and the greatest witch of their generation wind up
together at the end. Dumbledore, McGonagall and Snape eventually
retire; Harry winds up as Headmaster and teacher of Defense against the
Dark Arts. Hermione takes McGonagall's place as XO of the school and
teaches the Potions class, as Snape takes a position in the Ministry of
Magic.

I see two possible scenarios:

The "Harry dies" scenario has him repeating his mother's selfless act
and interposing himself between Lord Voldemort and Ginny/Hermione/
Ron. It kills both Harry and L.V. but transfers powers to one or all
of the three - leaving the Weasley family the most powerful.

The "Harry lives" scenario is similar - but a troubled Harry has loss
all around him - the Dursley's, one or more Weasley's, Hagrid, etc.
Harry doesn't have to murder L.V., though. Harry performs some
selfless act that causes all of L.V.'s actions to backfire and destroy
him. Whatever it is that he does permanently separates himself from
Ginny, Hermione & Ron. (Such as getting thrown back in time to
become Dumbledore or Gryfindore.)

[denaldo]

Post by Clothahump
3. Ron and Ginny get killed. This removes the possibility of a pairing
of Ron and Hermione, Harry and Ginny, because we have to have the
greatest wizard and the greatest witch of their generation wind up
together at the end.

Naw, Hermione marries Viktor Krum, and leads a Posh life.
They are the subject of a huge media blitz when Krum is
signed to a multi-million dollar contract by a Los Angeles
Quidditch team.

On a more serious note, the peculiar wording of the
prophecy ("neither can live while the other survives".
Aren't they both alive at the moment?) still leads me
to expect a mutual annihilation of the two.

On an even less serious note, as rich and famous as Harry
now is, if he dies, will they go ahead and bury him
in Potter's Field?