On Dec 27, 10:21 am, Mike P
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Post by Mike PPost by harryPost by Ret.Post by GBPost by PerianderVideo of Americans being asked very simple questions on
geography and world affairs ....
Only a small proportion of Americans have a passport.
It's such >> > >> > a vast country that there's not the same
incentive to holiday >> > >> > abroad. Maybe that's why they are
rather inward-looking?
Post by Mike PPost by harryPost by Ret.That's very true. America has such a massive variation in
geography and climate that no matter what you might want
from a >> > >> holiday - beaches, mountain, lakes, forests, etc.
You can get it >> > >> without leaving the US. In fact - you have
got all of that in >> > >> California alone - with a
Mediterranean climate as a bonus.
Post by Mike PI can get big hills, beaches, lakes, forests in Lancashire
and never >> > travel more than 40 miles from where I was born.
My 80 year old aunt >> > has never been out of Lancashire..
Post by Mike PThat seems rather dull to me.
Post by harryBut there is no culture. And you can travel miles and see
exactly >> > > nothing.
Post by Mike PYes, spot on. Most of their culture and heritage is ours
that crossed >> > the pond with them.
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I live in Hawaii, the 50th state, and we have LOTS of culture.
We have >> Chinatown, as most large cities in the U.S. have, and
we have >> Filipinos, Japanese, Koreans, Hawaiians, Vietnamese,
Samoans, etc, >> etc....and we are all living in the U.S.A.
Are any of those cultures American? No. Of course they are not.
What culture is "American", other than the Native Americans? NONE.
The rest of us are immigrants!
You have no culture of your own. You just import/steal everyone
elses. I've got plenty of relatives over there, and used to work
for a company based in Pittsburgh. I can trace my descendants
back to the deputy Sherrif of Wyoming in 1878, Robert
Widdowfield. My more immediate family have lived in the USA since
1949.
Good Lord! Who do you think you are?
My family on my father's side started with William in 1610, England.
His son, William, was given a patent (grant) by the King of
England, for himself and eleven servants into "The Colony". He was
a merchant and a lawyer. The date was August 11, 1642. The
colony's administrator, Sir William Berkeley, granted William
Hockaday 500 acres of land "lyeing on the South side of Charles
River near the Narrows being in the County of yorke bounded by
Northwest by West upon Waraney Creeke northeast by East upon the
river Southeast by East toward the Ware Creek." Two years later he
was granted 1346 acres near the narrows of the York River. Shortly
thereafter he got land in Northumberland County. He was one of the
largest landholders in Virginia.
He had a son, William Hockaday, Jr. He was one of the Tidewater
aristocracy. He died in the spring of 1670 in
New Kent, Virginia. Now here is where there is a gap. As far as my
Dad's book goes, he mentions that there is another William Hockaday
and he was a burgess in Virginia in 1748 and 1749. His great
grandfather was the above mentioned William Hockaday Jr.
Next we skip to Warwick Hockaday of Charles City County, married to
Mary. Their children were James, Elizabeth Mary, Bristow and
Samuel. Now here's where we have yet another gap. The book
mentions cousins, John, Philemon, and Edmond, and yet we don't know
who therir parents' are. Edmond is the closest I come to having a
direct line from here on out. In between all this was the
Revolutionary war and the signing of the Constitution! Captain
John Hockaday and Phillip Hockaday were mentioned as fighting in
the war, but I don't know where they lie in the family tree as my
father does not have that information.
Okay, so Edmond Hockaday (born 1751 - Virginia) and his wife Martha
had a son named Edmond (born 1771 - Virginia). Edmond married Eliza
Baker. Shortly before the turn of the century, Edmond and his wife,
pulled up stakes and headed West over the Cumberland Gap to
Kentucky. According to the records, he was restless on the
plantation and wanted to see what was on the other side of the
mountians. His brother, John Hockaday, also moved to Kentucky. It
mentions in the book that John had a son named Issac Newton
Hockaday who moved to Plattsburg, Missouri.
Edmond and Eliza Hockaday have a son named Edmond H. Hockaday (born
1804 in Lexington, Kentucky). He married Margaret Taliafarro,
reputed to be of noble Italian descent. (This is the only Italian
blood in my family!) Their children were Alan, Amelia,
Edmond N., Charles Newton, Mary, Margaret, and Hannah. Six years
before the outbreak of the Civil War, the family moved from
Lexington, Kentucky to the vicinity of St. Joseph, Missouri (along
with their slaves).
"St. Joseph was the eastern end of stagecoach lines, like
Butterfield, Wells Fargo, and American Express, that linked the
eastern United States with the West. They carried freight and
passengers."
Charles Newton Hockaday, the middle child of Edmond and Margaret was
born in 1837 at Old Homestaead in Lexington, Ky. When the family
moved to Missouri, they left behind the three oldest children to
manage the homestead and they took with them Charles and his three
younger sisters, Mary, Margaret, and Hannah. Charles (he was
nicknamed "Newt") had a cousin, Issac, John Hockadays' son,
mentioned earlier who founded a business hauling freight from St.
Joseph to "hell and gone" in the West. Charles (Newton) worked for
three years as a teamster for Leavenworth & Pike's Peak Express,
successor to the Hockaday line. Mostly he carried freight on the
line between St. Joe and Central city, Colorado. He married Hannah
Kelsay in 1864. They settled in the newly established Colorado
Territory. There homestead was southeast of Nederland. Charles
Newton became Deputy U.S. Marshall in 1876, based in Boulder, Co.
He held this job for ten years. He died in 1910.
Newton and Hannah had four children, Edmond, Charles, Harriett, and
Ida. Edmond Warwick was born May 17, 1867 at Balckhawk, Co. At age
nineteen he graduated from Denver University in business. He
married Grace Elvira Haight in 1894. And they had five kids. My
grandpa was the second to the youngest - Robert Newton, born 1901.-
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Americans. But not by our standards.
unusual.